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July 14, 2025 • 56 mins

John is back with a Go Low podcast recapping the Scottish Open and how impressive it was watching Chris Gotterup go toe to toe with Rory and come out on top. Next, John talks about who he thinks should be the betting favorite heading into the British Open and what other players he would bet on to put together in a parlay. Later, John discusses the American Century Classic and what a terrific tournament this every year and how great it is to see these athletes interact in such a fun way with the fans.

Finally, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment.

5:30 - Scottish Open Recap

15:40 - Bet on Rory

32:44 - American Century Classic

40:27 - Mailbag

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?
Hopefully everyone had a great weekend enjoying the summer months.

(00:24):
And I was supposed to record a podcast with none
other than Colin Coward today as we do many times
throughout the year, and obviously we're not far away from
football season, so I'm sure we were going to talk
a little football as well as the British Open which
is coming up. We love to gamble on that. He
had some plane delay, so that's gonna get moved till tomorrow,
so keep an eye for that. I got up really

(00:45):
early on Sunday and watch Chris got her up beat
Rory McElroy paired with him in the final group at
the Renny Suns Club in Scotland, where Rory wanted a
couple of years ago. I would say Rory was the
heavy betting favorite to win it when he woke up
or when the round ended on Saturday up until they

(01:07):
teed off, but Chris got her up wins and he
was moved to tears with a man did Ballyonis. But
looking forward this week which in twenty nineteen they played
at royal Port Rush, which was a Rory McElroy home game.
He did not make the cut, but his close buddy
fellow Irishman Shane Lowry won the event. So a lot
of buzz coming into this event. Some thoughts on guys

(01:30):
to bet On already placed a couple of little parlays
yesterday sitting on the couch. So Taylor Gooch wins live
in Spain. But John Rahm, who I said coming into
this week, I was keeping a close eye on shot
six under today and if it wasn't for you know,
gut shot one under today. So it was close one

(01:51):
by one shot. So John ram almost won a home
game in Spain. But god, I love him this week.
I love him a lot, so we will discuss that
as well as the American Century, which I just watched
Joe Pavelski about twenty minutes ago have a walk off eagle.
He wins it. In retirement, Steph Curry was making a

(02:11):
charge and then hit it out of bounds and hit
it in the water in the same hole on eighteenth,
so he was four hundergoing in eighteen. So it's awesome
golf day. I mean, what a great middle of July,
some great golf events. Very fired up for the last
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Who I googled this morning because I'm always fascinated by

(03:36):
a guy that is either young it hasn't done much,
or like last week in Iowa, when a guy is
older and hasn't done much career earnings. And last last week,
I think Brian Campbell had won like a career two
point five million dollars and then he wins like one
point five million dollars, Like that's just I understand. These

(03:56):
guys get sponsor money, but they pay their own travel.
It's got to be a grind, especially when you're in
your mid thirties, you got a family. A guy like
Chris got Her Up young in his mid twenties, won
last year on the PGA Tour again a second tier event,
but still like got some sponsor money. Like life's good,
but a moment like this changes your life and you

(04:17):
know you got nance, you got Imilman. They're all reiterating this,
like this moment if he's able to win this coming
down the stretch, he has a lead, He's playing Rory.
This is going to change his life. That's the crazy
part about these moments in golf, which to me, there
is something special when it's like Rory verse Scotti, or
Rory versus Bryson, or Scotti Versander, you know, or you know,

(04:40):
Ludwig versus Morikawa verse Scotti, like with Homa in the mix,
like in these majors. Recently we have had some big
dogs go at it, you know, on the PGA Tour
and the regular events. Sometimes that happens last year Quail Hollow,
Rory Versander, and Rory blows him out of the water.
But for the most part, a lot of the good
events are like Kirk Kittyama going toe to toe with

(05:03):
Xander Schoffley, Rory McElroy in a playoff with JJ Spahn.
Now obviously that age well because JJ ended up winning
the US Open. But I'm a sucker for and I
don't even want to say a no name because I
always use this. I tried to put it into context
of football. If Chris got her up coming out of
Oklahoma where he went to college, had been a football player,

(05:26):
at worst, he would have been like the third overall pick.
He had won the award that is basically the golf's
Heisman Trophy. To put it in the context of golfers,
he was essentially sandwich between Saheth Degala and Ludwig Oberg.
Those are the guys. Sahith won it two years before him,
and Oberg won it literally the next year, so it

(05:47):
went got her up. Ludwig won that. They call it
the Haskins Award. He also won the Jack Nicholas Award. Again,
this is like the MVP, the Heisman Trophy of college golf.
This guy was fucking elite. If he had been a
basketball player, NFL player, I think the baseball drafts literally
going on right now somehow. Matt Holliday, who played forever

(06:08):
in the big leagues, who I grew up awesome bald player.
His one son was the number one overall pick a
couple of years ago to the Baltimore Orioles. His other
son today was drafted number four overall. That's insane. But listen,
you win these awards. You're an elite player in college
like people, there's a lot of hype for you coming
into the pros, and you know, got her up. I

(06:30):
don't want to say it's not gone well, but not
everyone's Ludvig right home is a good example. Guy was
one of the best players in college, gets to the pros,
was really hard for a long time, and got her up.
You're just like, how's it gonna go, and you get
in the fork in the road moment. Like, honestly, today,
if got her up had lost by two and Rory
McElroy would have won one, everyone would have expected it

(06:52):
and be like, God, buy some stock in this guy.
He's showing signs. But he outplayed Rory. I mean he
won by two shots, and honestly, it was kind of
over by the time they like got the whole seventeen.
So I always think there's something special about that guy
that's trying to make his career against an absolute superstar.

(07:13):
You know, when I was a kid, if you did that,
it never happened to Tiger in majors, but it happened
to him in a regular events. If you beat him
or Phil or Ernie or a guy like that in
a regular event, I've been way back in the day.
If you do that to Jack or Lee Travino or
Johnny Miller or Greg Norman, now it's like if you
go toe to toe with a Xander, with a Scottie,
with a Rory back when Ram and d Chambeau like

(07:33):
it's it changes your life because not only do you win,
what comes along with winning, right access to the majors,
access to the to the top events financially got her up.
It only made a little over two million dollars in
his career, which is awesome if you're twenty four to
twenty five years old, but you know, relative to a
lot of other players, not great, and you win one

(07:56):
point seven million dollars, so right away you don't have
to think about money for a minute. You know, when
you are the way he's been explained to me, like
Tiger or use Tiger forever with Nike, Now Rory and
Scotti that are Nike guys. They make so much money
based on like world rankings, winning events, playing well in majors,
like you get a big bonus for Nike for winning

(08:16):
this tournament, and he's right next to Rory. Honestly, it
was a huge, nice little day for Nike Golf. But
I just thought watching a guy and I thought his
his I wasn't even a press conference, but his interview
with Amanda at the end where within like the first
two sentences he dropped shit on CBS. I'm like, this

(08:36):
guy's just raw, and then he just can't even talk
because he's in tears and the overcome with emotion. And honestly,
maybe he would have been like that if he had
beat me or you, But you can't convince me knowing
that he slept tied for the lead with Rory, playing
with Rory in the final group, and then beating Roy McElroy.

(08:57):
I don't know if his parents were there, it didn't
feel like it. I'm sure they're gonna come over this week.
But watching him do that, watching all the people that
have been part of his life, from junior coaches to
high school coaches to college coaches, I just beat Rory McElroy,
who I don't know, won Pebble, won the Players, and
won the Masters this fucking year. I mean, I just

(09:18):
obviously he has I'm sure higher aspirations, but easily the
biggest eighteen holes of the kid's life and easily the
biggest thing he's ever done in his life, not not
even close. And to do that, you know, across the
pond where here's the other thing, it's not it's not Ireland,
but it's a Rory McElroy home game. People are not

(09:41):
rooting for you. It's like last year with Brian Harmon
in the Open or two years ago, I guess. I
guess it was two years ago. But Xander like they
want their own guys to win. They are rooting for Europeans.
I don't blame them. I would do the same thing.
If you're playing over on you know, our side of
the pond, We're going to root for Americans. Kind of
the way it works. Rory's somewhat unique that way, but
it's like look ahead for this week. And honestly, I

(10:03):
had said one of my biggest regrets was not hammering Rory,
and the masters loved him, and I didn't get aggressive enough.
I then got off of the next couple of majors
because of what he said. I think, more than any
other thing that I gamble on, I take a lot
out of golfers press conferences, like I don't take that

(10:25):
much out of football press conferences. They don't mean that
much to me, right, I don't gamble based on the
press conferences. I gamble more on how a team's playing. Injuries.
There's a lot of different factors, but just in terms
of what a coach is saying, unless he literally just
says like we suck, we're awful, it's like, yeah, I
probably shouldn't bet on this team. But in golf, you
get a lot of candid moments. I'm not playing that well,

(10:48):
I'm searching, i feel lost. I know I shot a
decent round today, but I do not feel good about
my game. And it's easy when you follow the golf
press conferences and I fall a lot of people that
essentially aggregate them for me that I'm like, eh, I'm
kind of off this guy. Sometimes you're kicking yourself because like, oh,
so and so Withdrew, you know, I'm just gonna this
didn't even happen. But Victor Hoblin withdraw with a bad

(11:12):
elbow or fucked up wrist and be like, would have
been nice to know that three days ago, you know.
And that's the one thing with golf, the injuries. But
just in terms of their actual words, a lot of
these guys are really candid, and Rory's a great example.
He's very very open. It was clear how much the
Masters meant to him, right and once he won that,
I honestly bought into like he's gonna be freed. Watch out,

(11:33):
maybe he wins like three of the next four majors. Clearly,
it went the complete other way, like he's like, listen, guys,
I ain't Michael Jordan, I ain't Tom Brady. Like I'm chilling,
you know. I tried to go back to the range
for three hours, lasted about forty five minutes. I'm like, hey, shit,
I can relate to that. He's like, once you climb out, ever,
it's like it's hard to start back at the at
the bottom and climb back. I was like, yeah, kind

(11:55):
of understandable. Again, well, I wanted him to say the opposite.
What he said was actually the most relatable human thing,
like I kind of take a deep breath and I
didn't even try. And then over the next couple of
majors and the rest, you know, that middle part of
the season, like he kind of mailed it in, but
in fairness to him, he admitted it. Then I'm watching
his press conference earlier this week. He's like, listen, I

(12:15):
actually feel kind of reinvigorated. I came over here about
ten days ago. I haven't touch I took a little
bit of time off, I started playing, and I feel
like inspired. I feel excited now. Listen, sometimes you say
that it doesn't equate to good golf, and then you're
watching this week you're like, got it. Rory's kind of vibing.
And then I pulled up some of his comments today.

(12:36):
He said, I'm about as close to where I was
pre Masters. I think is exact pretty much there to
his form right now to what it was pre Masters.
And honestly, he's a couple puts away today from easily
winning the event. Like I would not have liked Rory
before this event because I'd be like, listen, I understand

(12:57):
it's going back to Royal Port Rush, his hometown means
a lot to him. He's gonna be I actually think
he's kind of reinspired. This is sometimes when a guy
wins right before a major. That's a lot to win
before a major and then win again, Like, how often
does that happen? Even like Tiger Woods, it's hard to
just win back to back weeks. That's not normal. That's

(13:17):
why we started Anoyton Scotti Schffler last last year. It's
like got he just wins every time he plays. Kind
of liked it. He didn't win today because I love
Rory this week and I looked earlier today it was
on Draftking seven to one. I'm gonna bet him outright
to win. I already bet him out right with like

(13:38):
Hoveland and Ludwig two top ten, just because I like
dabbling into some of my parlays. But I think Rory,
as of recording this at four o'clock Pacific standard time
on Sunday, is seven to one too. I like that
because Scottie Scheffler I don't like it all. Not that
he not gonna surprise me when he finishes seventh or

(13:58):
eleventh or six. The problem with Scotty is odds are
always so crappy. If you don't like him to win.
It's like it's hard for me to bet minus two
hundred for him to top ten. And historically he has
n't been great across the pond. And watched him today
unlike Rory, like Ray had some pretty good putts, it
was like, you know, I'm shit his golf. Scotty's like,
uh freaking out. It's like, bro, you just need to

(14:19):
calm down a little bit. Aren't you the best player
in the world? Like why he gets very I don't
know rattled when things don't go perfectly. He's kind of
complained a little bit recently. But I'm out on Scotty
this week to win seven to one. Rory, like, I'm
all over, And I think the momentum coming in the
vibe at this tournament at Royal Port Rush, I think

(14:40):
there's gonna be a tiger like buzz, which you know,
I'm sure Rory has had. He had it in two
thousand and nine. I think there is way more momentum
in twenty twenty five for Rory McElroy coming in this tournament.
He's won three times. He is. I mean, if he
were to win this tournament, he'd be a lock Player
of the year, be the heavy favorite to probably win

(15:01):
the FedEx Cup. And I mean, I guess it's changed
the way they do it, so who I have to
look to even the format. But let me let me
rephrase that, who knows who's gonna win the fed Ex Cup?
Who cares? But if Rory wins this tournament, you know,
I think I saw some quotes from Shane Lowry who
said it's gonna be a lot different this time around

(15:22):
than it was the last time, because last time around
it was all about Rory McElroy, and that was everything.
I got to fly under the radar, and then I
won the tournament and Rory missed the cut. This time around,
Rory McElroy is still the headliner, but like I don't
get to fly under the radar last time they played
it here, I won this tournament. They have pictures of
me in the town like it's I don't get to

(15:44):
just hide behind a tree and then all of a
sudden have the lead on Saturday. It's like, hey, guys,
I'm here and Rory's at home. So I like Rory
McElroy a lot this week, I really do. And we'll
get into John Rahm here in a second twelve to one.
I kind of like him a lot too. I love
John Rawl. I'm gonna treat John Rahm this week like
I have treated Bryson d Chambeau the last couple of

(16:05):
years at the PGA and at the US Open to
me auto hammer top five and top ten, because unlike Scotty,
I can get him plus two forty to top five
and plus one twenty two top ten. The other guy
I like a lot is Victor Hovlin. I just think
when I close my eyes in a vision like Victor
Hovelin when he wins a major. You know, if you
tell me Victor Hovelin's career ends, and he's won a

(16:26):
couple of majors, I kind of envisioned this being one
of them. And I don't know exactly what course, but
he just played well at the Scottish Open. I just
think he's shown some momentum this year. I like Victor Hoblin.
Ludwig's the tough one because he's played well at the
Renaissance Renaissance Club. But I watched him for a stretch

(16:49):
yesterday where he had three holes he was five over.
Today he had a couple of rough holes. At any
moment he can just like hit two of the best
shots you've ever seen. But he also gets a little squarely.
Who knows the weather, it's a huge variable always when
they're playing the Open, which I said it I think
last week. One of the things that makes this tournament
so cool if when you play tournaments, especially big tournaments,

(17:12):
either the main PGA events or the majors in the States,
if we see brown grass, for like, what's going on?
This is where's the fucking green grass? Why are the greens?
Why do they look Brown, you guys fire the groundskeeper.
They played one event at Chambers Bay, and everyone is

(17:32):
still complaining a decade later, like what was up with
that course with the grass? What the hell happened there?
Yet we go across the pond and no one complains
about anything. It's I felt today, it's like, eh, half
the course didn't even look close to green, and no
one cares and everyone's enjoying it. And to me, that's
what makes this style of golf so great. It's like,

(17:54):
even when you hit a bad shot, you know, especially
if you hit it low, you can run the ball up.
It's just it's a style that we don't see over here.
It's just a style that is something that is special
over here because people take golf trips to either Pinehurst
or to Bandon Dunes. Chambers kind of as well. That

(18:15):
just doesn't look like the golf we play. And I
get really really excited to get up early in the
morning and watch guys play this. And you also get
a couple of random names. To me, it's hard to
pick the randos in this tournament. I completely understand that
a random guy can win, and definitely there are going

(18:36):
to be a couple I would say unique names in
like the top fifteen that no one saw coming. But
if you look last year Xander won it. I think
Rory I technically he's not the favorite. I think he
should be the favorite right there with Scotty coming into
this tournament. Same thing with Rom Fleetwood is a guy

(18:56):
who finished second in this event when Shane won it
in twenty nineteen. The hard part with him is like,
I don't like betting Tommy Fleewood the top twenty. But
speaking of some of the live guys, Taylor Gooch who
just won in Spain with a just late late charge today,
with John Rom shooting six under, who played a home

(19:18):
game a lot like Rory's gonna be playing today, who
had similar comments of like, regardless of what the field
strengths are, when I've played the Spanish Open, when I
come over here, I feel the pressure, I feel the excitement,
I feel it on the weight to my shoulders. I mean,
I think, when it's all said and done, there's a
decent chance that he's known and passes Sevi Bolasteros as

(19:41):
the greatest Spanish golfer to ever play the game. And
that's something that clearly inspires him and something that he
is is shooting for and has the talent to do.
I mean, he's already won a couple of majors. I
mean I was thinking about today, if John Rohm were
to win this week, he would be one win away
from the Grand That's pretty crazy. Like he's already checked

(20:03):
the Masters in the US Open off. So I think
John Rahm showing signs today shooting six under the momentum
he has coming into this tournament, the good vibes he
has of recent really good play in the majors, which
last year was kind of a weird year though he
finished seventh in this event. I think, you know when
Xander won it. So I like rom a lot. Bryson's

(20:25):
a guy like I'm off, and he's a guy if
you listen to me and you follow by bet my gambling.
I love betting on Bryson Decebo especially you know, the
last couple of years in these majors, I mean, the
Masters has been profitable if you've hammered him the top ten,
in the top twenty, and that was a tournament that
a lot of people used to laugh at him when

(20:46):
it came to that. But the PGA Championship obviously the
US Opened. This is a guy the US Open this
year obviously missed the cut, but over the last couple
of years, I mean, just just an absolute force of nature.
I don't like him across the pond. I don't like
him in the elements. And when you look at his
history in this tournament, he only has one good event
and he finished I think eighth in twenty twenty two.

(21:08):
Other than that, like he's not even finishing in the
top twenty five. I mean, this is a guy that
you know, if he misses the cut, no one's really surprised.
And I think this gets back to you know, I
think what Rory a big step he took this year
was like kind of some different shots, and even he
talked about he spent a lot this offseason of working
on flighting his wedges. And I remember betting on him

(21:28):
two years ago when he was paired with Scotti Scheffler
in two thousand, it would have been twenty twenty four
in the Masters in on Thursday and Friday, and it
was like Scotty's in a different world and that had
to rattle him a little bit. And I think this
because a huge part of it that was windy and
he was, he was ballooning these wedges and these short irons,
and you watch him now, he's way more comfortable with it.
It's why I'm not shocked that he won a Pebble,

(21:51):
or obviously he won the Masters, because a huge part
of his game now and I think John Rohm clearly
has that as well. The thing with Bryce and he's
so analytical, it's like a science experiment. Well to get
a good and listen. I didn't listen much in chemistry
or biology, but I know, the least amount of variables
that you introduce in an experiment, the easier it is
to control the experiment. Well, when you go across the

(22:14):
pond one, their greens are pretty slow. Their greens are
not fast, and Bryson has become a really really good putter. Well,
why aren't they fast? Because it protects against the element.
My buddy Jeff Fong, who I play with here in Scottsdale,
went on a boys trip over at St. Andrews and
just played all around there and he said, you know
the craziest thing about the golf over there, It's the

(22:37):
only time in my life where you really have to
on these intense wind days factor in the wind to
your putting. It's not even just the break or the
slope of your given putt. You have to factor in
the wind. And for the most part that doesn't play
a huge factor over here, and I think that really
rattles them. And the other thing is like you can

(22:59):
play all these different type shots for the most part.
When you watch Bryson kicking ass and taking names, he
does two things. He slams driver off the tee and
then he's a short wedge where you kind of stick
it close. And the other thing of this you watch
them play this week, it's like there aren't trees there,

(23:19):
there's not really rough, there's kind of that like wispy
long grass. I just think I love Ron this week,
and I'm out on Bryson. But to Taylor Goot's winning,
who has won a lot on Live I would say
no one has financially benefited more in terms of what
they were potentially going to make making the jump. Like

(23:42):
obviously Dustin Johnson and Bryson and Koepka and Phil made
a ton of money going to Live Golf. You know,
reportedly Phil got two hundred million dollars. John Rahm might
have got like three hundred million dollars, Bryson Kopka got
one hundred and twenty five hundred and fifty. Those guys
twofold one, they were already filthy rich, and whether they
had jumped or not, they were going to continue to

(24:04):
be filthy rich. Especially Bryson and Rom obviously changed the
course of their life. But like the house that Bryson
does the YouTube where he hits the ball over the house,
would that house not have existed if he hadn't gone
to live of course, not like he was building that
house either way. Taylor Gooch is a guy who was
playing really well when he made the jump and was
was a good get for LYFT. He has made sixty

(24:27):
million dollars the last two and a half years playing
on LYFT. Sixty million dollars. And listen, he essentially forfeited
playing in a lot of the majors for the money.
And to me, if he had made ten or five
million dollars lass, he has to just close eyes every

(24:48):
night and just go I changed the I mean I
became like an NBA six man. I became an NFL
starting guard by making this jump. And he's played really well,
and one of I think this is his I couldn't
tell if it was completely updated or not. I think
this is what his fourth win on Lift in three

(25:09):
or twenty twenty three, he won the the their equivalent
to the FedEx title. He got an eighteen million dollar bonus,
so a huge part of the sixty million dollars was
the eighteen million dollar bonus. But when you factor in
every time you win, you get four million dollars. Taylor
Gooch has taken advantage of the live economics in terms

(25:29):
of actually on the course more than any player, and
I honestly, I would imagine the only guy that's close
would be like Joaquin Neeman at this point, not counting
the bonuses in which they paid you to come over.
But yeah, Taylor Gooch is just going chi ching all
the way to the bank. God, I'm fired up. The

(25:55):
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Speaker 1 (27:45):
Really quick before we get into a couple of your
at golopod at golopod questions. I watched a lot of
the American Century Classic today. Was actually pretty interesting because
the only current athlete who is ex is Steph Curry
es basically Steph Curry against Pavelski, who's retired. Romo who

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walks like he's seventy five years old even though he's
forty five, is backscrewed, John Smoltz who's like sixty years old,
Moulder who's been retired forever, whose kid is like seventeen,
and one of the best golfing prospects I think in
the country. So he's playing all these guys who were retired. Honestly,
the first couple of days, I thought Steph kind of
looked like a guy who's still playing, has a big family,

(28:28):
probably doesn't play as much golf as he did a
decade ago. But is to me, of all these guys,
if I had to pick one player to go just
to any random tournament and who hasn't got a chance
to practice that much, I think he's my pick now
relative to these other guys, like I've bet Moulder and
Pavelski play way more golf currently than Curry. But Curry's

(28:52):
making this run he wanted two years ago. He's four
under park going into eighteen where he eagled two years ago. Now, Ultimately,
Pavelski ended up eagling the hole, so it wouldn't have mattered.
But Steph had one of the most relatable holes I've
ever seen. I know here where I play at TPC Scottsdale,
I've had more times on hole fifteen, which is kind

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of a famous par five. I've eagled it, I've birdied it.
I've also hit it into the water multiple times or
hit it onto the road and then another shot into
the water. Most of us have had a par five
where we have lost multiple balls to penalty. It's out
of bounds, water hazard, you name it. Steph pumps his

(29:33):
first drive out of bounds. Didn't know that was possible
if it wouldn't have been for fifteen minutes earlier. Travis
Kelce pumps it out of bounds as well, Like God,
I didn't even though you could hit it o b
on this course. They hit it onto the driving range.
Then his second shot, which is actually his fourth shot.
He's trying to be a great I guess it was
a third shot because he had a provisional. He's trying
to be aggresive because he's got nothing to lose, and

(29:55):
he pumps into the water, and it was just like
golfle humble you. He was about to shoot sixty eight
and make I don't know if he wouldn't have won,
but I think he would have finished second. Let's just
assume he birdies the hole and he ends up I
think makes a double and doesn't even finish close to
the elite, ends up finishing like fifth or sixth. But

(30:16):
it's just if you listen to let me say this
a couple of weeks ago. One thing football has that
basketball doesn't. I think there's just such a relatability to
their guys and a lot of the clips going viral
this week, Rogers actually feels more like an NBA player.
He's like storing by guys, not Simon autographs. You got
Baker Mayfield shotgunning beers with dudes wearing number six jerseys

(30:40):
from Cleveland and walking up like bad day to be
a beer and the whole time, Jason Kelce, Travis Kelsey,
all these guys, Josh Allen, Sam Darnold are just drinking
and this event basically has turned into an NFL kickoff
party with four or five retired athletes trying to win it,
with Steph Curry as kind of the headline. But I

(31:01):
knew multiple people that were in Tdhoe this weekend and
their wives couldn't stop talking about how are we gonna
see Taylor Swift? Where is Taylor Swift? Rumors are that
Taylor Swift is here. And the other thing is Barkley
talked about this, I think on Saturday afternoon on the
seventeenth hold, when he was sitting there with Smiley, he
said a lot of guys want in on this event

(31:24):
because the event's never been cooler, and listen, I don't
want to say golf was dead. It was not in
a good place pre twenty twenty, and it not only
brought it to life, it's added a lot of athletes
started to play. Kyle Uschek said that he thought forty
guys on the team play. He's like, hell, even Nick
Bosa picked it up within the last year and he's

(31:44):
already broken ninety. I did not know that George Kittle
played golf and he entered this tournament. So I think
it's been hard for some of these older celebrity athletes
who aren't as relevant anymore. At the moment, a guy
like George Kittle says I want in, someone's getting kicked out.
And Barkley said that a lot of old guys are
complaining because they don't get access to this tournament anymore.

(32:05):
I remember twenty thirty years ago when the tournament just started. Definitely,
when I was a kid, there were always big names.
I remember Elway used to play, Gretzky Marino, but there
were a lot of random people. Now I didn't know
Jason Kelsey played golf. New did most people in the
last two years, like I wanted on this event because
Travis is playing and they're gonna be I would say,
consistent stalwarts to this event moving forward. And it's essentially

(32:28):
a bunch of NFL guys slamming beers with the fans.
But it's also unlike waste management, which can be almost
like a fraternity party turned like just can get a
little off the rails, this event feels pretty family friendly
and pretty kid friendly. There's a fine balance of like,

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there's gonna be a lot of booze here, a lot
of people are gonna be slamming drinks, including the players,
but like, you can bring your kid here, and it's
very enjoyable. I'm watching the other day Jerry Rice is playing.
He doesn't even realized. They're like, look who it is.
It's Joe Montana. And Joe Montana comes out there, everyone
gives him a standing go and it's just a It's
just a really really unique, cool event, and I'm glad

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that so many guys have taken up golf. Even Sam
Donald talked about this yesterday when he was on the broadcast.
He said, you know, I didn't play golf up until
about five six years ago, and coming out of college
I became such good friends because I was thinking about
this too. The draft class, Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, and
Josh Allen Pick one, pick three, and pick seven. I
would bet my money and all these guys playing in

(33:34):
this event. For a long time I had Josh is
a lock. Baker looks like he's having the time of
his life. I follow his wife's for some reason on Instagram.
They're out playing flip cup on the lake after the rounds,
like just fucking having a good time. Sam donalds like,
I didn't even play golf, but I started hanging out
with Josh Allen and Kyle Allen, who were in my
draft class, and we started hanging out in the off season,

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and then they started playing a lot of golf. It's like,
what am I gonna do? Just sit at home when
they go out and have a good time. So I've
gotten into it. And he hit one of the better
shots of the week where he stuffed this I don't
know what was seven eight six iron on Hoole eighteen,
had a short eagle putt, missed it but still made
a birdie. I think it's just really cool. So I

(34:17):
thoroughly enjoy that event. Can't get enough of it on television,
like the competition on Sunday, But to me, Friday and
Saturday are all about, you know, Aaron Rodgers throwing a
seventy yard bomb to some dude in a boat. The
Kelsey's doing a shotgun beer race with a couple of
random fans. You just don't get that anywhere else. And
there's like a organic nature of everyone having a good time.

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And for those of you don't realize, like they play
in Nevada. This event is in Nevada, So if you've
never been there, you could enter Tahoe, which you basically
have to unless you fly and come from the Reno side,
but either California side, Like it's just on the lake,
but it's California rules. There's no gambling or anything once
you cross that Nevada state line. There are so there

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are just casinos you can gamble. The lake is pretty strict,
like there's no like having one beer and driving a boat.
Like the lake is very strict. But once you cross
that state line, it's like it's like two different worlds,
even though it's just separated by an imaginary line, and
it's pretty awesome. So it's like whenever I see these

(35:22):
guys out on a boat having a good time, it's
like I was just there. I'm jealous. I wish I
was back. Okay, let's let's take a couple of your
guys questions at Golo Pod at Golo Pod and we
will fire out some of your dms again. Some of
my best this week Rory to win, Rom to win,

(35:43):
Victor to win Victor. In terms of a guy that
could win his odd I mean Rory seven to one,
Rom's twelve to one. You get Victor Hovelin right now,
thirty to one. You can get him to top ten
at plus two eighty, meaning you've bet one hundred dollars,
you will get three hundred and eighty dollars back his
odds at plus five fifty to top five. Same thing
with Ludwig. To me, uh, Ludwig's a little bit of

(36:08):
a wild card. I might take Ludwig to top twenty.
Can you get him in plus odds at top twenty?
Ludwig two, top twenty, get and plus one twenty. I
feel like Shane Lowry's gonna miss the cut. Okay, let's
let's bang out some of your questions. I got some ideas.

(36:30):
Love the golf coverage when the NFL dies down. First,
I'm here with YouTube TV split screen and Live in
the Scottish Open and not one time has Lived been
on a commercial and the Scottis hasn't been. So I
flipped the sound and objectively Live has shown so many
shots and fairity is good. So my question is why
does everyone always talk about how low the Live ratings are.

(36:52):
I watch more golf than maybe ninety percent of people,
but when Live is on I tend to have it
pulled up because of the act you see golf shots. Second,
the classic Who do you have on the Ryder Cup
team as of now? For me? Scottie Bryson's Ander JJJ
t Henlee Morikawa. Then win again? Make it to East

(37:14):
Lake is can't lean Burns? I'd like to take Reed
and Keegan and for my last I take Brooks. I
won't h I think we talked about this before. When
it comes to Live. Their business model, right, their business
deal with Fox is It's not like Fox gave them

(37:35):
one hundred million dollars. So for Fox to make that
money back, they have to sell a bunch of ads.
I mean, let's call a spade a spade. Live essentially
like paid Fox for the rights to broadcast their rights,
you know, to get them on that channel, so there
is no incentive for Fox, like they don't feel obligated
to show the TV commercials. Part of the reason you

(37:59):
see a lot of commercials on the PGA Tour because
they spent so much money on CBS spends so much
money to the PGA Tour. Same thing with NBC to
buy the rights to their broadcasts, so the only way
they can make their money back and listen. I'm not
condoning like the consumer product because it's not great for

(38:20):
us seeing commercial after commercial. But from a financial standpoint,
they spent all this money and you can say overspent,
and they have to make it back to make a profit.
This is business. This isn't a charity, and that's why
we get screwed. And I think they've tried to be like, look,
you can see the playing side by side when they
show the ad and it's muted and you still play,
it's like, guys, that's the same. So from a if

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the PGA Tour was broadcast like live in terms of
your shot after shot, these networks would make no money
and they have to make their money back. So and
the thing with golf, unlike football, which CBS spends a
ton of money for it's easy to get the ads in.
Would there are several TV timeouts I don't know the

(39:02):
exact number, let's just say four during a football game,
and then they're just random and automatic like timeouts and
two minute warnings and injury stoppages, they are gonna come up.
So it's easy. You know guaranteed if you have four
TV timeouts, again, I could be up maybe at six,
and each two minute warning you have guaranteed ad space.

(39:26):
We're in golf, like once I t off, if I'm
rory and got her up, I'm playing eighteen holes. I
don't maybe you have a little break in the action
between my shots, but other people are playing as well.
I have defended golf forever on this. It is a
way more difficult television product to monetize and not have

(39:51):
people pissed off. Then basketball and football, But same thing
with baseball. What happens every time there's three outs, you
go to a fucking break. What happens in football every
time there's a timeout or a review, you can go
to break. In golf, once people start playing, there's not
really a break. Everyone's hitting shots on the course, So
I don't think it's I think it's more complicated than that,

(40:15):
I said, tongue in cheek. Patrick Reid should be on
the team. I think it's going to be much more
difficult for us to create a team than it is
for them. I think their team is dramatically better than ours. Honestly,
I don't even think it's close. When you factor in
Rory rom Hovelin, Ludwig Hatton, you know you could have

(40:36):
Justin Rose is gonna be like their twelfth player? They are.
You got hoyguard Brother. I always screw up which one's better,
but one of them's damn good. You got Shane Lowry.
I mean, they're just good that their team is just
better than us. Do I feel great about Mora Cowa,
I don't do. I feel great about Justin Thomas, like
I just don't do I feel great about you know,

(41:01):
I don't think Keopka's gonna be on the team. You
know Xander Xander actually played better this week, but he
plays well at this course. I mean, I like JJ
spond incredible story, had a great freaking season. Is he
gonna be good in the Ryder Cup? Honestly, I have

(41:21):
like more faith than Russell Henley. If you told me
who do I have the most faith in you go,
Scottie Bryson. I just I feel those guys. I mean,
Bryson's made for the Ryder Cup, made for it. I
feel like Russell Henley's probably be pretty good. I think
we're in trouble. I mean, I think it's I think
it's pretty wide open. Kegan told Riggs this week, He's like,

(41:42):
unless you automatically qualify, qualify, you are not a lock.
So if you do not automatically qualify, which six guys do,
you're just not a lock. You could argue that they
should change it from like six to like three and
have nine picks. Basically, he's saying, just because you're seventh.
I mean's he's talking to Can't Lay? Who's he talking

(42:03):
to there? Now? The problem? Can't Lay feels like he's
on scholarship one. Can't Lay is like a pretty good
team golfer and last Ryder Cup, he gets into it,
like I kind of like can't Lay in that event,
I despise watching Can't Lay anytime beside the Ryder Cup.
No Hat Pat and he was excellent, Like he got

(42:24):
into it. He was fucking waving his no hat and
he's Ander's teammates so I can't lay is probably on
the team quick golf story. I've recently shot my best
round with a seventy eight at a local MUNI congratulations.
A week or so later, I went to the Outer

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Banks with the fam, booked the tea time and some
random dudes at kill Mark. Never heard of this course.
Kill Mark beautiful course, but it's tight and could be
with water and hazards everywhere you look. Dudes I was
playing with were lower handicaps and my partner was playing
at about an eleven. Anyways, that round, my irons were
awesome with my putting let me down. Still beat the

(43:07):
other three guys and shot at ninety two. Left there
feeling extremely proud of the way I played, especially only
losing one ball while the other guys lost at least
two or more. Question, have you ever had anything similar happen?
I almost I was almost more proud of that round
than I was of the seventy eight. Cheers from West Virginia.

(43:30):
I've shot under par on a real course one time
in my life. It was at this course called Castlewood
in Pleasanton, California. It's actually like a thirty six holes,
which is pretty rare. In the Bay Area. I think
John Gruden used to live out there. I know DeVante
and Derek Carr, guys like that used to play out there.
Cool course. I actually joined right before, six months before

(43:52):
I moved here, because under forty years old at the time,
they had a deal one thousand dollars you could join
the course. So I had a buddy Bryant, and he
was like, let's do it. I was like, hell yeah.
So I was playing out there a lot. One course
was in the hills, was pretty hard. It was just
just unique golf, weird shots. And then one short was
called the Valley Course. It was pretty flat. But He's

(44:13):
still like, you know, even if you're a good golfer,
it's not the easiest course, but you can just kind
of spray it around. And I shot seventy one, and
I remember thinking like halfway through the round, I looked
I was like even par, when I'm like, I'm not
even playing that good, spraying my drive everywhere. I think
I made some putts, hit some good iron shots, but
I did not feel like I played well. And I've

(44:33):
had times where I've shot seventy six, seventy seven. I
just played my brother on Monday at Inclined Village golf Course.
It's like a resort style course, and I was three
over par after whole eleven because I shot five over
on the front and then I birdied ten and I
birdied eleven. I'm like, I'm playing really well. I just

(44:55):
had a couple three putts one shitty three wood off
the tee, but I'm like, I'm playing really really well.
And then I end up triple a bogie seventeen and
just ended up shooting like eighty. I was like, I
felt like I played like low seventies, seventy four, seventy five.
So it's it's kind of golf pros talk about this

(45:16):
all the time. I played well, I just didn't score
or kind I shot pretty low. I kind of got lucky,
had a couple chipped it in once hit a couple
of long twenty footers. I think my best round ever
at TPC Scottsdale, I was I played the men's teas
so not the back teas, and I think I shot

(45:37):
seventy four, but I had like five birdies and I
made I think three of those five birdies were fifteen
twenty feet. So it's like, how often are you making
twenty footers for birdie not that often, so the round
easily could have been like eighty. A male back question.

(45:57):
Being from Portland or I would love the tour to
bring golf to the Pacific Northwest. We have some awesome
golf in awesome weather during the summer. My question is
is there any way the tour can get a tournament
out here. Having so many in Texas and Florida seems shortsighted.
I forget the course that Live played like three years ago,

(46:21):
but it was in Oregon, and I think they used
to have the US Amateur there. It might have been
like one of their first events when Live started. But
obviously Chambers a couple of years ago, not a couple,
I mean decade. I think was met with a lot
of pushback. I'm with you, I it doesn't feel like it,

(46:43):
and I do wonder if the contingency of players that
live in Texas and live in Florida have a lot
of pull on the scheduling, because, let's face it, for
the most part, you're not rotating that many random golf
courses on the PGA Tour. If you just start at
the beginning of the year and work your way through
about now, you have a pretty good idea where they're playing.

(47:06):
I mean, beside the PGA Championship in the US Open
that rotate, most of their golf courses do not rotate
and are kind of feel like, I don't want to
say on scholarship, but kind of like RIV and Pebble
Beach are never going away, Tory Pines is never going away, TPC,
Scott Steel never going away. So basically they're events through

(47:29):
January and March, or excuse me, January and February set
once they go to Florida Bayhill, the Honda which is
now called something different. The players kind of set. Now
you could argue after the Masters they play Hilton Head,
that Texas kind of swing. Maybe they could change a
little bit. But then they you know, Memorial, TPC, is

(47:55):
it Boston they play. There's probably some openings that they
could make, maybe even early fall, that they could make
a change and come up there. Maybe they'd be scared
of the rain. But I just don't think there's that
many openings for new courses to get in the rotation.

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(50:08):
rough was unreal to put into context. To join TPC Scottsdale,
it's like fifteen k I think, like five years ago
used to be like four but obviously golf inflation, that's
what it costs to play. And then you get full
access to both courses. You can practice there, you get
you know, twenty percent off clubs in a tire, you

(50:30):
get all this stuff. But it's it's expensive for a
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(50:52):
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(51:13):
golf high level course PG eight course. My question is this,
give me your twelve golfers for the Ryder Cup. Disregard
the stupid rankings. I mean I don't really have them.
I am wide open. I would say after Scottie Xander,
I mean JJ's on the team, Henley's on the team,
more cows on the team. I would put Kegan on

(51:35):
the team. Bryson's on the team. To me, Keegan's on
the team. I think this week's pretty big. I mean
if some American, you know, what if JJ spawn, I
guess he's already on the team. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't feel good about like Sam Burns. I wish
Keepka is playing well. He's just not. I just don't

(51:58):
feel like we're very deep. You know, Wyndham Clark showed
signs of life. I'm not playing him. Homa has not
played well this year. You know, Fenale's a guy who's
played on the team a lot. You know, DJ is
kind of sailing in the sunset. Literally. I just do
not feel good about our squad. I don't know who

(52:20):
Jake nap like, I don't know. I think we lose.
I really do. I think we're in major trouble. I
think we are in major trouble. Does bryceon d Schambeau
have a shot at the career Grand Slam? Sure, I mean,
just because he's a great player, but I would bet

(52:40):
against it. I would take the odds if you told
me he wins five majors. I kind of see him
having like a Kopka type career. He's already won two
US Opens. Maybe he wins another US Open and a
couple PGAs. I don't think he's ever gonna win the Open,
and the Master is just hard to win, though he

(53:01):
can he can win the Masters. He can win the Masters.
So maybe he wins the Masters, two US Opens, and
like a PGA, maybe gets like four Brice against the four.
That'd be pretty incredible. It's hard, but I just have
a hard time seeing him win the Open. I mean,
think about it, like, who's gonna win? Is anyone else

(53:22):
gonna win the Career Grand Slam? Scotty as a master's
Scotty as a PGA you would I would say that
Scotty and Rom have a better opportunity. Obviously they have
two to go. Bryson s three. But just like if
you told me those guys won the two tournaments that
they need to win, very believable. Even Scotty, who has

(53:44):
not played well in the Open, is it conceivable that
he wins the Open? Yes, I would say it's more
conceivable that Rom wins one. But could I see Scotty,
Like Scotty feels like a lock to win a US Open.
It's at the right course, he's putting well, he's not frustrated,
like I could see that happening. So I would say
Bryce is not gonna win the Career Grand Slam. I

(54:05):
would say one of the two does it? Between Rom
and Scotty, And potentially they both do. But there's not
many guys in the history of the sport that have
done that, so it's it would be pretty It's hard
to do because usually, like Trevino's a good example of
a guy that he just didn't play very well at

(54:27):
the Masters, and I think he talked about that, you know,
when he first started playing there, the racial tensions for
this Mexican guy were not great. There were a couple
of years where he didn't even go, but he never
finished better than tenth at the Masters. And Trevino's easily

(54:47):
one of the greatest players of all time. He won
all other three majors twice, and he just couldn't win
the Masters. I mean, not only could he not win
the Masters, he he wasn't very good there. Cuts and
forty sevens and cuts and T eighteens and I mean
his best finish was t. Ten the other majors. He

(55:09):
was just rattling off dominant performances that to me is
more likely for most guys that are great players, like,
more than likely, you're not gonna win the Grand Slam. Hell,
it took Rory a decade to finish. That bad boy
a decade. Jordan Speed, Who if I would have told
you seven eight years ago He's not gonna win the
career Grand Slam, he'd be like, are you insane? Jordan

(55:30):
Speed's not gonna win the career Grand Slam. Jordan Speach
never win the career Grand Slam. Congrats to Jordan though
on is third child. Sully very very cool, but we'll
have some football podcast this week. And uh again Rory
seven to one, Rom twelve to one, but I like
him the top five and top ten, Hovelin, top ten,

(55:52):
Ludwig top twenty. You can sprinkle top ten as well,
but Hovelin would be kind of my long shot at
thirty to one. The volume
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