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December 17, 2025 • 27 mins

Jason reacts to the NBA Cup championship between Jalen Brunson, Karl Anthony-Towns and the New York Knicks & Victor Wembanyama and the San Antonio Spurs. He breaks down how Wemby, Stephon Castle, Dylan Harper, and De'Aaron Fox controlled for much of the game but how the defensive trio of Mikal Bridges, OG Anunoby, and Josh Hart helped flip the game.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. All right, welcome to Hoopsinight. You're at the
volume heavy Wednesday. Everybody. Hope all you guys are having
an incredible week. Well, the nd season tournament lived up

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to expectations. The Spurs had a great showing, took an
eleven point lead with a couple of minutes left in
the third quarter, but a run from the Knicks bench
flips the script, and then a methodical half court offense
from the Knicks in the fourth quarter ends up closing
the deal. We're gonna be breaking that game down from
the perspective of both teams. You guys know the joke
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the Nicks win one twenty four to one thirteen, a

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game that the Spurs looked like they were in control
of for about three quarters until a huge Knicks run
starting in the late third quarter flipped that script, and
then again the Knicks offense was able to take them home.
So Victor wiman Yama hits a three with about two
minutes left in the third quarter that puts the Spurs
up by eleven, and at that point they had a
lot of the momentum. They were playing with a lot

(01:24):
of energy. Looked like they were gonna leave Vegas with
the money right. But I thought the two biggest shots
of the game were those two threes on the immediate
following possessions from Jordan Clarkson and Tyler Kolek that ended
up cutting that lead down to five and kind of
changed the complexion of the game. And they were tough
shots too, Like Jordan Clarkson's was a heavily contested three

(01:46):
on the right wing where he just caught and step
Castle's right there. He just rose up right over the
top and just made a really tough contested three. And
then Tyler Kolex was a pull up in transition. He
had Wemby in front of him. He just kind of
used a head fake looking off to the right to
cause the defense to react, found a little opening for
him to rise up. They were pretty high level bits
of shot making, and again they just cut that lead

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from eleven to five, completely wiped out any of that
momentum that san Antonio had changed the complexion of the
game in thirty seconds, and it kind of went from
that feeling of the Spurs and Wemby show the coronation
will begin, they'll kind of stiff arm you and put
up a bunch of highlights in the fourth quarter to like,
oh shit, we have ourselves a close game again, and

(02:28):
then again from there during that run, the Knicks also
just completely dominated the game on the offensive glass. I
thought Carl Anthony Towns and Mitchell Robinson both played really
well against Victor women Yama in different ways in this game. So,
for instance, like I thought, Carl guarded Wemby super well.
He was super physical with him. He was beating him

(02:49):
to spots, was not letting him get close to the rim,
and he was so physical on his base. I've talked
about this before. When you're playing a bigger player that
wants to shoot over the top, you can do more
to up to them offensively by disrupting their base than
you can by trying to contest them up top. They're
tall guys. They're gonna shoot over the top of you.
They're not gonna worry about a contest. But if you

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can disrupt their base, that's the lift. There's an energy
transfer that happens from your feet all the way up
through the top of your shot. That is that like
muscle memory that you work on when you're in the
gym by yourself. If you can disrupt the power at
the bottom of the shot, it makes the top of
the shot look very different than the shots that they
take when they're practicing. It's the best way to disrupt
a guy. Again, I thought he was just physical with

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Wemby all night, forced him into tougher off balanced jump shots.
Really nice game defensively from Carltown's on Victor wemin Yama
and then Mitchell Robinson just dominated Wenby on the glass.
He has size there, he's famous for his activity and
was just physically able to hold him off to get
to the ball. I also thought Wenby had a rough
game with his rim decisions on defense, but we'll get

(03:52):
more to that in a minute. But he just kept
beating Wenby to the ball around the rim again. The
Knicks had thirty two second chance points in this game.
The big stories of the game, and it was especially
a factor in New York's favor in the fourth quarter.
They had an eleven to two offensive rebound advantage in
the fourth quarter. And then once the Knicks had a
little lead in the fourth quarter, it kind of devolved

(04:14):
into that classic half court style slugfest, which favors the
Knicks heavily. Brunson was able to keep working for his
really efficient twos closer to the basket, short jump shots
and floaters, and then the Spurs cooled off in a
big way. They missed a few good looks. Harrison Barnes
looks like like really for both of the games in Vegas,

(04:34):
looked like he was having flashbacks to the twenty sixteen finals.
He missed another wide open corner three in that stretch,
Julian Chimpani missed a wide open wing three on the
left wing. And all those short twos that Jalen Brunson
was making, guys like Darren Fox were missing or getting
blocked by Josh Hard or Steph Castle was missing, or
Devin Vissel was missing some of his short little mid

(04:56):
rangers coming off of screens and so the Knicks. Basically
he just methodically out executed the Spurs as they headed
to the finish line. I thought there were a couple
of huge sequences late that helped blow it open. Josh
Hart the two way sequence that play where he blocks
deer and Fox on that ISO in the middle of
the floor. Deeren gets his own rebound, then he strips him,

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then they go down to the other end. The clock's
running out. Brunson's kind of tired. He's sitting at the
top of the key. He just kind of puts his
hands on his hips and goes like, you got it, Josh,
and Josh just goes to a pull up three over
deeron Fox and just nails it. He's had a great summer,
clearly because a bunch of his like kind of polished
parts of his game are just so much more refined
than they were in years past. Massive, massive sequence to

(05:40):
stop a deeron Fox ISO in the middle of the
floor and then just just basically dot his eye with
the jumper right in his face from three on the
other end. That was a big shot. That kind of
ice the game. Put him up eight with just under
three minutes left. And then og Ananobi, who was awesome
again last night twenty eight points and zero turnover, some
big attacks right at the basket and match up attacking situations.

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He hit a couple of threes in the fourth quarter
off of kickouts that really helped blow this thing open.
One off of an offensive rebound of Mitch kind of
missed a lot pass from Tyler Cole that got his
own rebound and og was just wide open on the
left wing knocked it down. The Knicks have done a
lot of damage the season on offensive rebound kickout threes.
And then another one where where Tyler Cole like they

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were running. There's this action the teams have been running
all around the NBA in the last couple of years,
where you basically it basically is a version of a
ball screen by every measure in terms of the way
the reids work, but you're doing it against a shifted defense,
and the way they pull it off is by running
a weak side flare screen, so you'll have a guard

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at the top of the key and they can get
to it in a bunch of different ways. I've seen
teams run it off of double drag where they just
have the guard the second guard in the second ball
screen where the guard comes off and then he'll come
off the flare. But it's basically the guard coming off
of a flare screen from the big at the top
of the key. Again, you'll see it in a bunch
of different ways. You'll see it a lot in transition.
The Spurs do this all the time with Luke Cornett

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just setting those flare screens at the top. But essentially
when the guard runs over the top of the flare screen,
his man is usually chasing him right and then it
forms that same kind of series of drop coverage reads
where the guard immediately will try to drive and if
he drives, the big man who's guarding the screener is
going to sit back in some variation of a drop
coverage and his on ball guy is going to try

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to chase him over the top. The difference is because
it's happening on a skip pass off the flare going
across the floor. It basically accomplishes the goal of setting
up that pick and roll sequence while also having the
defense suddenly have to shift from one side of the
floor to the other. It's a way to loosen up
the defense before you get into a ball screen. A
lot of NBA teams are doing it. It's a copycat league.

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They're getting a lot of good looks out of this.
So Tyler Kolek comes off of one of those flares,
immediately rips, and when he rips, Victor Weminyamua, who's guarding
Ogananobi in the left corner, makes a decision to slide
over again. The defense is shifting because of that flare screen,
and because of that skip pass, Victor women Yama ends
up stepping over to help on collect collect rifles a

(08:10):
perfect pass to og and Andobi, and he nails that
corner three. Another like kind of interesting rim decision from
Victor women Yama. Again, we'll talk about that when we
get a little bit later in the show. But that
was really the story of the game. Like I thought,
the Knicks just showed a lot of poise over the
course of this game one by just weathering a lot
of good punches from a very talented young Spurs team

(08:32):
that played really well and shot the ball really well
for the first three quarters, and they just made enough
plays to stay in the game. A couple of quick
little burst runs here there. Every time the Spurs pushed
it to eight or pushed it to ten or pushed
it to eleven. They quickly get five or six points
back and just keep it close. Right then their bench

(08:53):
guys end up flipping the script, and that late third,
early fourth stretch turned it into this close, slow down game.
And then in that close game, the Knicks looked like
the far more mature and polished half court offense. Not
only did the Knicks get nine extra possessions in the
fourth quarter thanks to a eleven to two offensive rebound

(09:14):
advantage just in the fourth quarter, but in their half
court possessions, the Knicks logged a one hundred offensive rating
in that half court offense against the Spurs, compared to
just a sixty eight offensive rating for the San Antonio
Spurs in the half court on the other end of
the floor versus the Knicks. And you know that really again,

(09:35):
like that's that level of comfort that you can expect
from an older team that's been in a lot of
big games together. And I want to dig into that
concept for a minute. Lots of subplots I want to
get into here with both teams. First of all, again,
just how poised and mature this Knicks offense is stretches
like that fourth quarter where the younger team looks kind
of uncomfortable running offense. But the Knicks know exactly what

(09:57):
they want to do and they know exactly how they
want to play. That's a big part of why I've
been saying over the last week or so that the
Knicks are my pick to win the Eastern Conference if
the season ended. At this point, their core has been
together for a while now. Jalen Brunson og Andnobi Josh
Hart and Mitchell Robinson, those dudes have been in a
lot of big games together over the last three years.

(10:19):
Add In Towns and Bridges now too. Those guys have
been in a lot of big games over the last
two years with the Knicks, and both played in a
lot of big games in their previous stops. Like Kat
had a Western Conference Finals run with the Timberwolves back
in twenty twenty four, McKale Bridges came within two wins
of winning a championship with the Phoenix Suns played in
a couple other big playoff series over the course of

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the following seasons. McHale Bridges and Karl Anthony Towns have
been in a lot of big games and the Knicks Corps.
The guys that have been around for the last three years,
They've been in a lot of games, a lot of
big playoff moments, right, So they had that combination of
continuity and big game experience that I think gives it,
I'm a real advantage over some of the younger teams

(11:03):
in the league. And there's some younger teams in that East.
Orlando's younger, Detroit is younger. There's an experience advantage there
that the Knicks have that I think is real, especially
in a relatively weak Eastern Conference. And now with the
help of Mike Brown, they're squeezing more out of the
sponge in every detail of their offense, so many more
interesting wrinkles. In this game, we saw another one of

(11:24):
those sequences I talked about this in the semi final
game against Orlando. We saw another one of those sequences
where Og and McHale kind of crossed under the basket
while Brunson was dribbling. This time, Og Andnobi broke wide
open for a dunk because the two off ball guys
are staring at Brunson while he's working into his ISO game. Right,
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(13:09):
the dunker spot. Tyler Coolly got a really easy layup
in the fourth quarter just by cutting along the baseline
once again, while Brunson's dribbling with the basketball. These are
all important elements of maximizing your offense. Jalen Brunson is
the type of player that draws a lot of eyeballs
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stand on opposite wing, and you stand in the dunker spot,
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lost sight of you for a second and you moved right.
Really impressive showing from the Knicks in this tournament. They
ran through some really tough physical defenses between Toronto, Orlando
and San Antonio to get this done again. San Antonio
statistically hasn't been an elite defense this year, but when
Wemby's on the floor, they have been, and they have
a lot of really big athletic guards that can be

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a problem. They hung one hundred and thirty two points
on Orlando one hundred and twenty four on the Spurs
with Wemby. That's a couple of big time offensive nights
and single elimination games against really high caliber defenses. Their
defense continues to look really good with the Wings flying
around once again. Down the stretch, you've got ogn Andobi
rotating and blocking a dude at the rim, Josh Hart

(14:35):
getting a big block on deeron Fox like that Josh
Hart Ognobi Michael Bridges trio has just been fantastic on
defense this year and has turned them into a more
formidable unit on that end of the floor. I just
think the Knicks are on the right track. They're hitting
all those checkpoints that you want to hit if you're
going to have a shot to win the East this year. Again,
I don't view them as a runaway favorite. I don't

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view them as a team that's like a serious threat
to like a Denver, to like a Oka See. But
I think if the season ended right now, there might
pick to win the Eastern Conference among a field full
of flawed teams. I just trust their continuity, I trust
their experience. They've got a lot of guys that have
been in a lot of really big games, and I
think that's a big advantage for them in this particular

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Eastern Conference field. The biggest thing Knicks fans got to
watch out for now is complacency. The nd season tournament
provides this kind of strange psychological phenomena. Essentially, what's happening
is you have a early December mid December stretch of
these like super intense games and then you just go

(15:38):
back to a regular kind of like regular season flow
with late December being you know, from December to January
to March to April, you've got you You're literally four
months away from playing like serious, serious basketball again, right,
So that can actually be kind of like a massive,
like uh, just drop off in intensity and adrenaline, right,

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And so it can be really sketchy for a team
when you go back to playing really low leverage games.
You can start to build some bad habits if you're
not careful. And that has happened to each of the
last two N Season Tournament champions. So like two years
ago when the Lakers won, they dropped ten of their
next thirteen games after that point. The Bucks last year

(16:23):
they were three and five, and they're following eight games
after winning the N Season Tournament. So that'll be the
challenge for the Knicks to try to buck that trend,
like stay focused, stay disciplined, don't start establishing bad habits
now after you get a massive win like this again,
especially for a Knixt team, where I would argue their
best chance to win is to be super sharp on

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the details. Because of how good their offense is, you
want to put them in a position to where they
can use that as a trait to push them over
the top, and if they lose too much ground on
the details, they won't be able to. So keep an
eye next ten games or so on this next team
to see how focused they stay after such a switch
from high leverage basketball to low leverage basketball on the

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Spurs front. In many ways, I thought this tournament was
an announcement. Beating the Nuggets to get into the tournament
the way they did, then dominating a seventeen and six
Lakers team, then beating a seemingly unbeatable Oklahoma City thunder team,
and being in position up eleven late in the third
quarter to potentially take down the Knicks before things fell

(17:28):
apart from there, I thought they flashed a clear upside,
a potential on both ends of the floor that's gonna
be a huge problem, not just this year but for
years to come in this Western Conference. I think the
main thing standing in the way of them becoming a
true top tier contender of the ILK of OKC in
Denver Houston is becoming a more reliable half court team

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that won't run into the doldrums of offense that they
ran into in that fourth quarter when things slow down
in big games. These are all very important reps for them.
In time, they will look as comfortable as Okac has
looked in the half court over the course of this season,
or like the Knicks in that fourth quarter. But there's
a process. There's a lot of losses, a lot of

(18:15):
tough games, a lot of failures between now and becoming
that version of yourself. And again, that doesn't mean they
can't win this year or that they don't have championship
upside within the season. They still do. It just always
ends up being way tougher than you think it will be.
Each round of the playoffs is like another level in
the game. Like take the Timberwolves for example. Sometimes you

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look super impressive for a few rounds and you upset
a really good team and then you run into an
elite offense or excuse me, an elite defense that can
protect the rim and is led by one of the
top two players in the league on offense, and you
just get exposed as being not quite ready yet. But
that said, I am now fully convinced that the Spurs

(19:00):
will eventually reach that level. I'm betting heavy on these guys.
They're gonna be insanely good these steph Castle high ball
screens and ISOs. They're getting great shots every time. He's
consistently getting two feet in the paint. He's playing off
of two feet and scoring there consistently. He's throwing amazing
kickouts and generating high quality threes or advantaged situations there.

(19:23):
He's just barely scratching the surface of his potential. I
was talking about this with the nerd Sash guys yesterday,
Carson and Logan, But I think he's like kind of
this evolutionary hybrid guard version of Jimmy Butler in the making,
Like a devastating two way player who can do a
ton of damage on defense, but also is like on
the other end, a matchup problem because he's too big

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and strong for guards. He can just easily get to
his spots just powering through guards and then way too
fast for any of these bigger fowards that might be
physically capable of handling it. And then he's always on
two feet. That's a Jimmy Butler kind of staple. He
can get a good shot for himself whenever he wants,
and then he has super high level playmaking chops. So

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I actually think he has the potential to be even
better than Jimmy was at his peak, And I mean
that is a compliment like this is Jimmy was a
guy who, like was a consistent top ten player in
his prime in many situations outplayed some of the best
players in the league in playoff series. Like I think
Steph Castle has unbelievable potential in this league to be

(20:28):
a two way superstar victor woman. Yamo is pretty bad
last night by his standards, but he still had a few,
you know, like a half dozen jaw dropping highlights. I
just think there's a lot of obvious areas for improvement
that he will eventually figure out. Like again, I talked
about his rim decisions defensively, like going after shots he

(20:48):
probably shouldn't have staying home when he probably should have
gone after the shot, Like I went over that one
where he made it, Like the Tyler Coolek kicked out
to og and Andobi in the left corner. Tyler Kolek
was not in scoring position, he didn't have an angle,
and Wemby just abandoned one of the most dead eye
three point shooters in the league to help on a
drive that he didn't need to help on. These are
the kinds of decisions that he will eventually be surgical with.

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He's too smart of a guy. He just needs the reps.
He needs big game reps. He needs the reps against
different types of offenses. He's going to figure it out.
And then he kind of in both of these games,
the next game and the Thunder game kind of struggled
with physicality on his drives in ISOs. He'll eventually figure
that stuff out too. You know, I was thinking about
this as I was watching the game. I don't think

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he's going to be a dude who's going to drive
the basketball to the rim a ton. He's not overly quick,
you know, compared to the best athletes in the world,
and his center of gravity is so high that if
a dude beats him to his spot, he can just
kind of physically run him off of his line. That
doesn't mean he can't be a dominant paint scorer. I
just think his I think it's going to be timely drives,

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kind of like the way Kevin Durant was in his prime,
where it was like a really efficient ris attacker, but
just you know, two or three times a game he
just hits a gap and he gets a big drive
because similarly with Kevin Durant, he's faster than seven footers,
but he's not like faster than most forwards that are
guarding him. And he's kind of thin and upright, so
defenders can get up underneath him. So he's not gonna

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slash to the basket the way prime Lebron James is.
That's not how this is going to work for Victor
women Yama. I think a lot of his pain attempts
in the big picture are going to be like really
efficient short range shot making, like actions that get him
deep post catches to where he doesn't have to beat
the dude off the dribble, but he can just turn
over his left shoulder and shoot little hooks or over

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his right shoulder and little hooks or those like easy
little quick step through is where he goes to the rim.
A lot of it is going to be getting him
good deep post position. Those are going to be things
that he eventually figures out. I think he's going to
be a deadly short range over the top guy like
we see it. We saw that in the OKC game,
those little short right shoulder fades over Alex Caruso. He

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hit a couple of those in this game off of
movement like those are the kinds of things that I
think are going to turn into super reliable shots for
him in the long run. He's eventually going to figure
out how to become a very dynamic, very consistent offensive player.
It's only a matter of time. Dylan Harper was incredible
last night, especially with the spot up shooting. That's a
big encouraging trend for him as we look forward, and

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I'm a big believer in his talent driving the basketball.
I think he's going to be yet another element to
this team. With three guards that can just get into
the paint whenever they want. And then between now and
when these younger guards are more mature and more consistent,
Darren Fox is the perfect stop gap solution. This team
will go toe to toe with Oklahoma City in the

(23:39):
coming years, probably more dangerous than we think in the
short term too, But I'm betting big on this team
being the victor. Was talking about how he doesn't view
any team as Okac's rival yet, and he's right about that.
Oklahoma City's on a different level. They're on a tier
on their own. But I do think in the big picture,
this will be the team that can physically contend with

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Oklahoma City and cause problems for them. I am just
as a basketball fan, really excited to see their development
because on the one hand, they're super fun to watch,
but on the other hand, they are the team that
will keep things interesting with a very, very talented Oklahoma
City roster that's gonna be really difficult for any GM
in the league to compete with on paper. Really enjoyed

(24:23):
the N Season Tournament. I'm a big fan of the
N Season Tournament in general. I just love the high
leverage basketball at this point in the season. Every year
it kind of turns into an opportunity for us to see,
you know, big games for some of our you know,
some of our more interesting teams in the league, like
last year Oklahoma City getting to where they got and
then like getting another big game rep against Milwaukee, which

(24:45):
helped shape them into the team they were in the
postseason when they ended up poisting the trophy. Like getting
to see Giannis play really high leverage basketball and getting
a win on a team that's been you know, deficient
and talent over the last few years and keeps breaking
down physically in the postseason. You know, two years ago
the Lakers kind of capitalizing and continuing their momentum from
their Western Conference Finals run and hitting a special level

(25:07):
there and playing some really high level basketball the Indiana Pacers.
That was kind of like the first moment where the
Indiana Pacers looked like a team that was going to
be a super dangerous big game team in this league.
That was that was very prescient as it pertains to
what Indiana did in the following two postseason runs this year,
getting to see the Spurs blossom into what will be

(25:29):
a perennial contender in this league, like the N Season
Tournament to me has been a place where we've gotten
to see a showcase in big games for some of
the highest level talent in the league. I just love it.
And frankly, like I think people who complain about the
N Season Tournament, like I just want to be like
like why are you? Like why are you? Why is
your attitude like that? Like don't you love basketball? Don't

(25:51):
you love big games? Like how could you not like
the opportunity to watch a couple of big, high leverage,
meaningful games in December, Like I just I'm a big
fan of it. I love that the league did this,
I want to see them. I would even like to
see it extended a little bit, like I'd love to
see a sixteen team single elimination tournament instead of an
eight team single elimination tournament. I just think these games

(26:14):
produce some really high level basketball that's really fun to
watch on television. I really enjoyed the n Season Tournament
again this year. And you know, the NBA regular season
will slow down here a little bit, but you guys
know the drill. I always look at the NBA regular
season as like tent poles. You have your tent pole
that is the n Season Tournament. You have your tent
pole that is like the trade deadline. You have your

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tent pole that is like the end of the postseason.
The n Season Tournament, and that trade deadline just kind
of boost the regular season from syncing into too much
of a monotonous process through that eighty two games, and
I'm just a big fan of it. All right, guys,
this is all I have for today is always sincerely
appreciate you guys for supporting us and supporting the show.

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We will be back tomorrow morning with a break down
of a couple of games from the Wednesday Night Slate.
Don't forget if you want to get mail bag questions.
And I'll be recording that mail bag tomorrow, so this
video will be your last opportunity to drop mailbag questions
into the YouTube comments. Alright, guys, I will see you
tomorrow morning.
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