September 20, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin gives Aaron Rodgers and the Jets props for their dominant win over the Patriots but puts things in perspective as we are only 3 weeks into the season.
After Shohei Ohtani became the first 50 homerun - 50 stolen bases player in baseball history, Colin officially declares Ohtani the greatest player of all time
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All ride, Here we go. It is a Friday, baby.
Hope you enjoyed that Josh Allen interview on the Facility.
That was great live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd
wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. You know.
I drove into work today, Jmac, knowing how happy you
would be. And sometimes when a C student gets an
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A there's no reason to be cynical, there's no reason
to be judgmental. Wow, the standard for Jet quarterback play
over the last seven eight years has been so low.
You should feel great today. All right, fan, you should
feel great, You should be happy today.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You're choosing violence early the standard. Come on Rogers with
lights out last night?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Colin went all right, so what's interesting about the NFL?
I said this yesterday? We kind of know how it's
gonna end up, but week to week you don't know
what happens. And so before the season started, Jay McK
and I went back and forth, and I said, I
think the Jets are gonna be a nine ish ten
win team. I think they'll be in the playoff race
with Miami for that wild card spot. Buffalo is gonna
win the division and they're already in first place. I said,
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they'll be in that wild card spot until week sixteen,
seventeen eighteen. And that's what I thought. And so last
night's game in August looked like we thought it would
look in August, Aaron at home against the terrible Patriots team.
But when New England beat Cincinnati, I'm sitting there thinking, hey,
and New England's got to bite. They're terrible. Bill Belichick
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left Girrod Mayo a mess. New England is talentless on offense,
so nothing personal. But Aaron teams at home against a
talentless New England team on a short week with a
rookie head coach. So here's what the Jets are. They
got crushed by a really good team. They crushed a
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really bad team, and they had a real tug or
on the road against an average team. That's what they are.
But we know that Aaron is at his best when
he's comfortable and playing with the lead at home, decent protection.
He was comfortable last night again at home, playing a
bad team on a short week, had to go on
the road. Aaron was really comfortable and it felt good.
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And the other thing is like Kirk Cousins on Monday
Night football, Kirk looked better on Monday Night than the
previous week. Kirk moved better. The happiest moment for the
Jets was the first time Aaron moved out to the right.
He got flushed out to the right, Aaron moved better.
So that is a really good feeling for the Jets
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because in the post season, if you get there late
in the season, postseason January football, you got to extend plays.
You got to make plays off script. That's what Mahomes
is doing, Hurts is doing. You can't just be sitting
in the pocket. I don't care if you have the
best coach and the best roster Jimmy Garoppolo just sat
in the pocket. You want to be able to move.
And Erin now is moving. That's a great sign. So
if you extrapolate Aaron's numbers, if you take his first
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three games and you extrapolate him over the season. Now
the schedule gets tougher. He's got to face Josh Allen
twice to what will be back, gotta face him twice late,
Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence. He's got to face much better quarterbacks.
And you cross your fingers on Garrett Wilson's health because
if he's gone, not the same offense. But if you
project Aaron's numbers, this is what they would look like
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at the end of the year. Thirty five hundred yards,
one hundred three passer rating, complete, sixty seven percent of
his throws. Are you kidding me? New York Jets Football.
I would sign up for ten years of that. So
Aaron maybe forty. But like Kirk Cousins, he looks like
he can move a little bit. Now, let Jet fans
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bask in the glory. I mean, just let them have it.
This is no day to be cynical for Jet fans.
They're gonna go on WFA and radio in New York
and this day they're buying their Super Bowl tickets. But
you remember yesterday I went on the show and I go,
I don't understand the line. And when I got off
the show, I got a text from a buddy. He goes,
Colin New England's bad on the road, short week, rookie coach,
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bad quarterback play, that's why it's six and not three.
And I'm like, Okay, that's why he's a better I'm not.
That's why he's a pro. I'm not. But you figured
it out pretty quickly. Airin at home air uncomfortable a
team in a short week, there is no reason to
be cynical now. I think the Jets margins, I'll say
it again, are very very thin. If they lost a
Breese Hall or a Garrett Wilson, they gotta win with defense,
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and I'm not sure this is a great defensive team,
although they looked great last night. But let's just take
a deep breath. A team that's been a D plus
C minus student at quarterback over the last decade on average,
they had an a night, let him have fun, a
second beer, let fireman ed, scream and yell, and they
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don't get these very often. The Jets don't look good
at quarterback very often, so when they get it like
last night, yeah, I know it's New England. Yeah, I know.
We all thought New England would be the worst team
in the league. Wasn't they beat Cincinnati. We went, uh,
they're the worst team in the league. Here's a happy
Aaron Rodgers on a nice win. He looked good. New
York's happy. New York football hasn't been good Giants Jets
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in years. Here's Aaron.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Feeling real good out there. I felt good pregame. And
you know I've been progressing. I said to you guys
after Week one. You know it's going to be a process.
I've continue to extend plays once I feel more comfortable.
And this was kind of the first step in playing
like I know I'm capable of playing. I felt like
I was, you know myself.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
He was. He looked good. No cynicism, no snarky, no condescending.
The Jets looked like, let's be honest. Before the season
in August, we said, you know, it's gonna be a
nine or ten win team. Nine or ten win teams
with a Hall of Fame quarterback, even if he's old,
are gonna hammer teams like New England at home. They
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did good job so earlier in the day, the greatest
Major League baseball player ever, and I don't think it's close.
Had the greatest day for a player ever. Sho, hey A.
Tani went six for six, three home runs, ten RBIs,
seventeen total bases. And what's even more remarkable. This is
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what's even more remarkable. This is a rehab year for him.
He's not pitching or fielding, so this is really a
rehab year for him. It's not fully healthy. When asked
about the pursuit of the fifty to fifty club fifty
home runs, fifty stolen bases, Otani had said, Hey, I
just want to get it over with, and yesterday he
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got it over with.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
On a one two, Oh, Tani says her in the
air the other way, five kid goes good.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
One of a kind player, one of.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
A kind season.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
So hey o, Tony starts the fifty fifty club.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Now for most greatest players ever. That would be enough.
You'd go home in the clubhouse, pop open a cold,
one high five shower, go out. But show, hey, Otani
isn't just a great player, he is the most remarkable
baseball player ever. And it wasn't long after he joined
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the fifty to fifty club he did this.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Hey guess so.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Oh, Tony the greatest day days time. This is not
real life.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
He is not a human.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I had said about two years ago, I thought Shoho
Tawi was better than Babe Ruth, and I got pushback.
I admit I was wrong. He's significantly better than Babe Ruth.
He is the first six tool player. I would like
to remind you again, this is a rehab season. He's
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not fielding, he's not pitching. Even Mookie Bett said, I
don't know how to explain it. He's just feeling sexy.
He just has one of those days. He just feeling it.
This season, he is first in runs, second in hits,
first in home runs, first in RBI ops slugging percentage,
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total bases. Shame, he's dropped a second in stolen basis.
You know, power hitters are not supposed to steal bases.
Power hitters look like guys who do deadlifts like five
times a week, and guys that steal fifty bases aren't
supposed to hit it like that. They're supposed to be twitchy. Yeah,
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there's never been anything like this guy ever on a
absolutely loaded roster. Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts. There's talent everywhere
on this roster, even Otawani is markedly better, superior, more
remarkable than every other player. And oh yeah, for the
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first time in his career, yesterday, among his personal exploits,
he clinched a playoff spot. So we'll get to see
him in October. He deserves it and so do we.
J Mac I'm sitting home waiting for the football game,
watching the Dodgers and thinking, sometimes, you know, I always
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said there was one baseball player. There's only one athlete
my life that I didn't see play that I wish
I would have in all sports because I got old
Wilt Chamberlain, and that was Sandy Kofax, who literally the
greatest hitters of his time are like, yeah, Bob Gibson
was this. Bob Gibson was that. Nobody could hit Sandy Kofax,
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Like the greatest players the Frank Robinson's are like, yeah,
you just couldn't hit him. This could literally not hit him.
And anybody born this morning may not get the prime
years of sho Hey Otani, but we are watching like
a modern day Babe Ruth. Although Ruth didn't really pitch
and hit in one season a lot, he was either
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a hitter or a pitcher, and maybe Otani when he
pitches and hits next year, maybe the offensive numbers and
stolen bases come down. But that's the greatest baseball player
and the greatest day of his career ever. And it
was remarkable.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
What a night to be a sports fan. You've got
Otani going off six for six and then the Jets
getting the victory later. And I got a new pre
it this morning, a new paper weight here for the show,
for the desk, a little Jets performance. So the staff
is excited, and.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Uh, I am not going to be cynical. Oh, I
would hope not listen. After years of Tim Boyle, Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I don't even remind me of those guys.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
I know.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's like I was driving in this morning, I thought,
you know what, it's okay for people to be happy.
We're in a very divisive time in America. There's hate
and anger everywhere. Let's celebrate what the Jets did. Yeah,
it was a great date. New York football has been
in a tank for about a decade.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You want to sell fifteen quarterback hit, seven sacks, four
hundred yards of offense. Come it a lot to be
excited about. Oh, By the way, they got bo Nix
next week at MetLife bon Nix. But assuming he survives
this weekend in Tampa, things are looking up for the
New York Football Jets. Colin, Let's get excited.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
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five minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
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Speaker 1 (12:04):
I do it more than you think. Defend Aaron Rodgers,
but you just remember the negative stuff. I'm going to
defend Aaron Rodgers again on something. There was a moment
last night's second quarter when Aaron Rodgers and Robert Sala
had a really weird moment on the sidelines where Aaron
was obviously perturbed with Robert Sala when he came for
the push. And I'm going to defend Aaron Rodgers here,
Sala from my money is too raw raw. I like
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players to show emotion and position coaches to show emotion
because they're the most closely associated with players. But the
further you go up the coaching wrong. I want to
grown up. I need poise, I need composed I'll give
you an example, Jay Wright Villanova. They're facing North Carolina
in the National Championship Game and a shot goes through
for Villanova. Do you remember Jay Wright's reaction? Jay Wright
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as good as any basketball coach collegiately in the last
five ten years. That's how you act in the Natty.
In the moment, circumstance and situation, you should remain resolute.
By the way, remember the Andy Reid Travis Kelcey situation
at the Super Bowl. You know why that didn't blow up?
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Do you know why that was diffused? Can you imagine
if you did that the Robert sala It was diffused
because of Andy Reid's temperament. He just let it slide.
Sala is not a position. Coach Aaron Rodgers was right.
It was the second quarter, it was against awful New England.
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It's week three. Remember the Super Bowl, Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll.
New England had controlled the game, and here came Russell Wilson.
A big completion down the sideline literally was going to
change the Super Bowl. Seattle was done, and Belichick on
the sidelines just sat there and let the Seahawks burn
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a time out. He wanted them, He wanted Seattle to overreact,
his team was prepared. Kyle Shanahan looks like a cool
poker player. You don't know if he's winning or losing.
And again, I'm not against a fist pump. I'm not
against some energy, but save that for position coaches, players,
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even coordinators. Dude, unless it's the other coordinator's job, you
can take the headset off and fist pump it. But
to me, sola sometimes is too raw.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Raw.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Got to separate from that stuff. The Belichick's, the Jay Wrights,
the Andy Reids bark at officials, that's when Belichick uses
his energy. Mike Krzyzewski, Roy Williams bark at officials. But
players look up to coaches to be the adult in
the room. And that's what Aaron did last night. Bro Chill,
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second quarter New England at home Chill. Here's Aaron after.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
He's not a big hugger usually, so I don't know
he was going for the hug. He likes to do
the two hand chest push as well, so but he
talks a lot about two score leads.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah against not the end of the world. But it
was on social media a thing last night for a
couple of hours, and my take is Aaron's right, Like,
chill out, dude, it's no hugs. It's New England, it's home.
We're leading, it's week three, it's second quarter. We just
we just struggled. We just got blown out by San
Francisco and struggled to beat Well Levis. This is our
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job to do this, this is what we do. I'm
paid to beat New England at home in a short week.
That that's what I'm paid to. Don't celebrate a fundamental
part of your job. Hammer nail for a construction worker.
You're paid to do that. Talk on the microphone. I'm
paid to do that. We don't pump fists after a
good segment like Aaron's right here. Jmackl News, this is
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the Herdline News.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Slight disagreement. Can I just read you? Robert Solas coaching
seasons with the Jets four and thirteen, seven and ten,
seven and ten. The guy's excited, he can feel it,
he can sense his team is starting to come around.
Let him show emotion. You love it when I'm after
you do a segment, we go to commercial. I'm like
that was strong cowherd. I see you grinning. You like it?
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Infectious energy, positive, that's all he's trying to do. I
didn't like Rogers being like to chill out. I've been here.
It was a little off putting from Rogers. But he
has such a good night I can't hate him. All right,
let's get started. Let's get started with the Bengals. They
started zero to two for the third straight season, fifth
time in the last six years, but they were a
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play away from one and one. We won't rehash the
fourth and sixteen flag against KC and they have a
favorable matchup against the Commanders on Monday night. Joe Burrow
believes there's no reason to worry.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
We're in a fine spot now. We've been here before.
We're not panicking, so we're we're focused on getting to
win and getting better every day. We pride ourselves on us.
You're not being able to tough we win or lose
that practice. We're we're they go out and have fun
and get our work in and get better.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I have no concerns about Cincinnati. I think they're gonna
reel off seven wins in eight weeks. I think they're
gonna be just fine.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, I would agree. I don't know if we can.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I'm in.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Like I have a friend in the music business, and
he invited me to go see Green Day, Green Day
and Smashing Pumpkins. And when I saw Joe Burrow on
the screen there, he reminds me of like a blonde
version of the Green Day singer Billy Joe.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
He hung out and perished this off Seah.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
He is an interesting well.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I think my take is he's been injured multiple times
and Joe Burrow is not sure how long this is
gonna last. And Joe Burrow said, you know what, man,
I'm gonna live in the moment. Enjoy the hell out
of this. I'm gonna go to Paris in the fashion shows.
I'm gonna dye my hair. I'm gonna have a great year.
I do not know how long this is gonna lie,
because I've had three serious injuries and one more. They're
drafting the quarterback. So I think he just said, man,
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I'm gonna I'm gonna live in the moment. It's a
very very healthy way to live. I totally get it.
It's like I'm gonna live in the moment. I'm gonna
pump so wait, get jacked up, do my hair, go
to Paris, be fashionable. I am there for Joe Burrow.
I think it's a great I think more of us,
myself included, should do that. Live in the moment, stop
planning everything, live in the moment and just put it
all the line. And I just think all these injuries
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have added up to him waking up and realizes one
more injury. They are drafting another quarterback. I'm sorry they are.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean they might want to draft one anyway, just
in case. I mean, Jake Browning was good last year.
Bose it doesn't hurt to always draft a quarterback. Te
Higgins looks like he's trending toward playing this week on
Monday Night against the Commander's line is seven? What do
we say? Yeah? Seven?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Is there an argument for the commanders who have they've
looked capable of mesively?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, I think this is I don't. I don't like
to if I do blazing five. I rarely predict blow up.
Even last night, I thought it would be six, seven
point game, close game. I don't predict blowouts. But if
you told me there was a blowout, if you told
me there was one game this week that was an
absolute blowout, I would take Cincinnati and win by two
three touchdowns. I think I think they're an angry team
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that's good at home. Now they're more fully staffed commanders.
You know, they're feeling pretty good about how they kind
of Jaden's getting better. This pass rush from Cincinnati, I
think Cincinnati is gonna well.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
It's mostly Henderson. I will say, I don't think the
Washington punted once last week against the Giants. They just
could not convert in the red zone. I do think
the Bengals score a lot of pois. They could, They
could hang forty on Washington's defense. This is like, oh wait,
we've got Joe Burrow and t Higgins and Washington.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Really, I mean, you know what Washington's gonna draft next year. Secondary. Yeah,
they just don't have the dudes like you just see,
like you can see certain teams and you're like they're
bad there and so.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
In like Hunter, Travis Hunter maybe played defense.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Unless I wants the I was Washington. They're not going
to have the first pick, but they have to go
get a star in the in the back end. I mean,
Baker Mayfield made them look like a seven on seven drill.
It was brutal.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Next up, the Dallas Cowboys, coming off a just a
shocking blowout loss of the Saints, and now they match
up with the hungry, angry zero to two Ravens in
America's Game of the Week on Fox. Michael Irvin, remember
earlier this week, made some comments about America's team. Now
Emmett Smith is piling on. Oh boy, you listen to this.
I'm not sure last week was just a debacle.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
It just was a tobacco period and we didn't then
rise up like we should have, and maybe we don't
have that talented of the football team to rise up
and do what people expect. I feel like some of
our players, whether this be on the offensive side or
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even on the defensive front, we could be playing with
some what I would call back in the day, playing
be a player.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
See, guys, I think that's very fair. That's been my
argument that they have one great player, Ceedee Lamb, who
is good against any competition, any day, home, away, any team.
Micah parsons Is and Dak Prescott are situationally elite players,
depends on where they're playing, who they're playing, who they're
matched up against. Ceedee Lamb's they're one great player, and
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there are teams in this league like San Francisco that
have six to seven great players, Philadelphia four to five
great players and multiple half dozen really good players. Dallas
just didn't have that many great players. I mean, it's
it's ceedee Lamb is separated from Micah Parsons. Micah Parson's
been in three playoff games, has one sack.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
So is this way is his way of kind of
needling Jerry Jones and me, like, dude, you're picking the players, right,
the Jones are picking the players. Why are there only
a few good players and a lot of B and
C type guys. That's not nice. Emitt Smith. I'm sure
Jerry Jones is gonna be kicked off at that, right.
I don't think he put together the roster.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, it's just they don't. I mean again, there was
a few years ago when they had Tyron Smith closer
to his prime and Zach Martin closer to his prime.
You know, there have been times in the last six
seven years Amari Cooper Zeke was still in his friand
go go back a few years, but they've aged or
move off them because they had to do because with
their PANDAX. So it's just the rosters just they got
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a couple of DB's. I like, but you're not gonna
DB's do not win super Bowls? Pass rushes?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Weapons? Do quarterbacks? Do coaches?
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Due?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's congrats on having good young corners. That's not changing things.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
And the kid A Bland who had a good year
last year, he's hurt. I mean, it's not looking good
for Dallas in The schedule is brutal. Let's go to
the final story, Colin. This is justin herbert saga in Carolina.
Remember they stayed east. But Herbert is dinged up ankle,
heavily taped. He was on the practice field but did
not participate in any drills during the session open to
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the media. Now, I don't know if Harball's playing games.
Rapidport has come out in Rapaport NFL Network and said
he was extremely limited in practice. But is this gamesmanship?
We saw it from Lafloor last week. Oh, Jordan Love,
he's in, he's playing. Obviously he didn't play, But is
this Herbert doing nothing when the media is there? Then
they kicked the media out and was Herbert running drills?
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We don't know. I don't know this is a game.
I thought Chargers were maybe the side, and I don't.
I don't know if I feel that way because remember
Chiefs on deck?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Do you trot.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Herbert out there?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
No? This is so this was gonna be one of
my bets for Blazing five, and I'll give your heads
up it wasn't. And that's one of the things I
thought about. It wasn't the injury as much because I
do think he'll play. But my takeaway is there are
moments over the season you're playing a huge rival, next
your quarterback's dinged up, where like if it went sideways
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fast and Herbert they got behind early. I could see
it halftime, Harbaugh saying, hey, we're just kicking this one
of the curb. Let's go get the Chiefs. I this
to me is just a game. I just want to watch.
I just I want to watch this game because this
this team, even with Harbaugh, is not close to the
same team without Herbert.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So there's another one of those games this week. Kind
of quietly the Jordan Love situation. You see the Packers,
who they have next week divisional matchup with Minnesota. Do
you put Jordan Love out there against Tennessee again? No,
if you're not doing that well, Tennessee's probably the side
and here Pittsburgh's no, that's a.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Good point by you. You don't that's it. By the way,
that's another game I stayed away from, play the long game.
I'm not betting on the Chargers this week. I'm not
betting on the Packers this week. Those are just because
there's stuff going on where the quarterbacks both could play.
But I'm not sure. If I was a coach, I'd
play with the big with the big game coming up
the following week.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
So then why not just take the other side and
say give me Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I like certainties, I like answers. Quarterbacks, like I tend
to try to find value. What's the value for the
Chargers of Herbert doesn't play? They have no value?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, can you imagine backing Justin Fields then watching him
struggle might because listen, he hasn't had a turnover yet.
You no, they're coming. That's what he that's his career
in the NFL. And then you know the second you
back him, it's just.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Like what did I do?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Herd Lie shows George Kittle may not play now for
the Niners, So no Christian McCaffrey, no Debo, and probably
no George Kittle, basically brought Purty in the San Francisco
weapons have gone from stacked to normal. They still have
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a great offensive head coach and the best left tackle
in football, and a dominant number one receiver Brandon Aik
number three PFF receiver last year, and a good second
receiver in A Jennings, So they'll just be normal this weekend.
By most standards, they'll have a normally weaponized offense. But
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that's what franchise quarterbacks are about. It's not about winning
when you have the best hand in poker. It's about
winning when you're missing a right tackle and your number
one receiver, no Debo, no Christian McCaffrey, and no Kittle.
We all know you'd need those guys to win a
Super Bowl, But against the dinged up Rams, I don't
care where the game is being played, Brock Purty should
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be okay. You should not need an abnormally stacked roster
to be excellent. It's like the band who releases a
really good studio album and you're like, Wow, they're good
in studio, but you want to make sure, Like when
(26:37):
you see them live first Queen great studio album, better
live at Wembley Stadium. I don't want to see Brock
Purtty look like Milli Vanilli this weekend when the record
skips and he's running off stage and he almost anybody
can produce a good studio album. Let's go live in
front of a few thousand people. Anybody can do a
(26:57):
banger in the studio. Anybody when you have Chris Jen
and Kyle and Trent and Kittle and Deebo and I Yuk,
it's a layup drill. Here was Brock Purdy about having
to oh my, having to carry a little bit of
the offense.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
We never asked Brock to really do too much. We
ask them to do the play that's called if nothing's there,
what are your options after that? You scramble, You throw
things away, sometimes you take a sack. Things you always
try to do is not turn it over. But nothing
really changes when you're missing guys. It's game plan can
sometimes change. But now what you ask the quarterback to.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Do, obviously that's Kyle, not Brock. So we'll see. I
know you all think I'm anti this and anti that.
I'm not anti Brock Purdy, but you know he does
feel a little bit like a trust fund kid. You know,
he basically gets all the gifts. I mean it's like
Magic Johnson got Kareem, Okay, but then Magic Johnson that
rookie year, Kareem gets hurt, he has to play center. Okay,
(27:52):
that's fine, but most people don't inherit Kareem in his prime.
And I'm just saying. I'm not saying that some trust
fun kids aren't hard workers and wouldn't have done well
without the trust fund, but it helps a lot, right,
you know that money coming in every month when you
inherit debo and now you can Kittle and Trent Williams
(28:14):
and Kyle. I'm just trying to contextualize this a little.
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Speaker 1 (29:42):
All Right, we got to talk about the Bears play
the Colts. This is a really, really big game between
two young quarterbacks who have enormous talent, Kayleb Williams Bears,
Anthony Richardson Cols. So forget the results when it comes
to the Bears. I just want to see progress offensively.
I just want some progress. They have no run game
so far, no run game twenty eight in the league.
(30:03):
Their last in passing yards. Their offensive line was ranked nineteenth. Pff.
It's like having kids. I've lowered my expectations. At first
I thought they could be president. Then I'm hoping for employment,
and now I'm just keeping them alive. At this point,
I'm just looking for something, a plan. It looks like
they've practiced a semblance of a run game. The Colts
(30:23):
don't have much of a run defense, and DeForest Bruckner's
out their best defensive lineman. So my take is, if
I am Chicago, go back to the basics. Let's formalize
a run game. Let's give some direction to the offense,
because right now it looks like innermural football. I'm just
watching Caleb Williams run around. You can see the talent.
He got a power arm. He is a unbelievable athlete.
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He's got a power arm. This is not like Anthony
Richards said of the Colts who can't make five yard
passes out in the flat. He's slinging it into the
first row. Greg Cosell was on yesterday. He talked about
the good, the bad, the ugly with Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
There's a significant difference which I think a lot of
people are unclear about, between leaving the pocket and making
plays with your legs outside the pocket and moving within
the pocket. Those are two totally different things. That is
an area that Caleb Williams needs to get better at.
We know he can be great getting out of the pocket,
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and one thing that he has to stop doing in
the NFL is retreating backwards. You can't retreat backwards in
the NFL. There may be one quarterback I've ever seen
that can do that, and that's Lamar Jackson. But you
can't play that way. So he has to learn to
move within the pocket to sort of find a quiet
space in which to deliver the football. Because I'll tell
(31:41):
you what, the ball comes out of his hand beautifully.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, this is not an Anthony Richardson thing where you're
not sure he's ever going to complete fifty percent of
his throws. You can see the talent. It's very similar
to me that Josh Allen came into this league before
Stefan Diggs. It was like year two if you go
to Josh Allen's non numbers before Stefon Diggs got there.
If you go to those numbers, he had twenty touchdown passes.
(32:06):
That was it. Now I had nine rushing touchdowns and
they won ten games. But he was scrapping. I mean,
he was completing in the fifty eight to fifty nine percent.
That's what Josh Allen was doing. And that was with
Brian day Boll before he got Stefan Diggs. So Keenan
Allen has not played. Keenan Allen's a great situational third
down receiver. DJ Moore can go deep, but Keenan Allen's
(32:27):
your veteran piece. You're big receiver, big target guy. So
there's stuff here. There's other young quarterbacks, Bryce young I
don't see the stuff like I just don't see it.
Or there's Bo Nicks where there's talent, but there's limitations.
Caleb's got everything. He's just they got to give him
a run game. They got to look like something right now,
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it's intermural football, So Dallas Baltimore. So this is a game.
I think I'm gonna take Lamar over Dak because I
think the rosters are pretty similar, and I think both
coaches have won a Super Bowl. But the funny thing
about the NFL. I said this last night about New England.
New England beat Cincinnati in the first week of the season, well,
the first week of the NFL season. The last three years,
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you've had a huge upset in week one. Don't make
anything of it. New England's bad, They're awful, and Cincinnati
should have beaten in Kansas City the Chiefs. So Cincinnati's
one two, but they're fine. New England's unwatchable. I mean, actually,
that should have been a beautiful game to watch last night,
but it was really boring because New England is so bad.
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So if the Dallas Cowboys beat Lamar Jackson, and we
know Lamar Jackson is virtually unbeatable when he faces the NFC,
he's twenty and one better winning percentage than Mahomes. He's
twenty and one. So if the Cowboys come out and
win this game and they're at home, then we can
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look at their season and go, well, they've blasted Cleveland
and they beat Baltimore. It happens. Teams get blown out,
and it does. Last year, the Chiefs got blown out
by the Broncos and they won the Super Bowl twenty
four to nine. San Francisco got crushed a couple of times,
once by the Bengals. The Lions got shredded by the
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Ravens thirty eight to six. And we think Detroit's pretty good.
It happened. Tom Brady had bad bad Week sixes week eight.
It happens. So if they go out and beat the Ravens,
and I still think the Ravens may not make the playoff.
But it's a good team. It's a great coach, it's
a great quarterback, great left tackle. I like their weapons. Finally,
great safety, great center. They got some good players. And
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if Dallas wins, regardlesf it's overtime, it's close, it's a
situational whatever. Then you could look at New Orleans and go, yeah,
it's a one off. It happens. So but I do
think this game is important and the reason it's important
is Dallas did not get a friendly schedule. So we
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looked at their schedule and we thought, oh, they should
beat Cleveland, New Orleans Baltimore will be the first tough game.
But after this, now you look at yourself and you
go in the New York's a pushover. Well, New York's
offensive lines playing really well, and the Cowboys defensive line,
according to PFF, is awful. So that could be a
little closer than you think. There's a lot of Detroit,
San Francisco, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Houston, Cincinnati. I had a lot
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of tough games for Dallas in their schedule, so this
is like a big game. Okay, So was the Saints
a one off and it happens they just got just
get blown out. You just you know, something sneaks up
on you. You're not ready for it. I mean New
Orleans we didn't know much. I mean, did I talk
once in the offseason, did J Mack talk once about
Clint Kubiak, just like, oh, they're really good. Suddenly Houston
(35:42):
snuck up on us. Last year, Saints snuck up on us.
Here was Micah Parsons on trying to slow down Lamar
Jackson in the Ravens, run game.
Speaker 11 (35:50):
Toughness, step up. Ain't know the choice Jack, how We're
gonna come downhill whether or not Sunday night. So it's
not like a matter of oh, are you gonna stars,
is you going to do it or not? You know,
I know I'm ready for the match up.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
By the way, I want to go back to the
top of the show on Aaron Rodgers and because listen again,
if New England loses to Cincinnati in Week one, we
would have gone into last night's game going it's gonna
be ugly. But they didn't. And then we watched Cincinnati
last week outplay the Chiefs, and we're like, hey, and
(36:29):
New England took Seattle to overtime to beat Cincinnati. And
then it's Week three, Week four, week five. The longer
the NFL season goes, the truth comes out. And so
New England's bad. But I did think, and I've been
from the beginning offseason. I said the Jets are a
nine and ten win team. They're not a twelve, thirteen
to fourteen win team. I just don't think they have
(36:52):
the depth offensively. I don't love their offensive coordinator. And
now they got banged up injuries. But I did think
the best part of this game as a Jets fan
is Aaron moved. You've got to move in this league.
I'm showing this to our TV audience, and again I'm
not asking for thirty seven yard runs, but can you
(37:13):
get flushed out? Here's Aaron, He's flushed out. It's a
big part of it. If you go to playoff games,
it's amazing how often the game changes off script. Mahomes
wins a super Bowl on a bad leg. He as
a forty yard scramble. That's the super Bowl. And so
you don't have to be Lamar Jackson. In fact, I
would argue, if you're too gifted, you'll be prone to
(37:36):
run more than you probably should. But you gotta move.
I said this about Kirk Cousins on Monday Night Football.
Kirk's never been a mover, but he moved in the
pocket against the Eagles. I felt like first week against
the Steelers, You're like, dude, he's just catching the snap,
planting and throwing. He doesn't want to move. Five six
more days of practice rehabbing, it's like, oh, okay, that
(37:58):
looks like the old Kirk, or closer to the old Kirk.
So Aaron in the first couple of weeks. My big
knock was he's playing within a three four foot radius,
like you can't. You can't beat the good team, especially
in the AFC. You're not beating a Burrow, A Lamar
or Herbert A Mahome. Those guys are all moving.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
C J.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Stroud moves.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
C J.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Stroud's not a runner, but he can move. Aaron last night,
I thought, looked like Green Bay. Aaron. He doesn't run,
and when he first came into the league, his first
seven eight, nine years now he ran and scrambled forward
for yards. I just need a guy that buys time,
and I thought Aaron last night. My take was, oh,
this is good. He's getting flushed out. Tom Brady's the
(38:38):
outlier in the exception Well, Brady Belichick, Brady Gronk, best
quarterback of all time. Okay, that's that's total exception. Smartest
guy that's ever taken a snap pre snap genius, manipulated
teams more than they could manipulate him, and seen everything
played forever, New every DC, every defense, every coverage. It's
(39:00):
not Aaron. He needs to move some what move? And
I thought last night, I'm like, okay, all right, he's
out of the little box. And that's good. And again,
I don't want to be cynical on the Jets because
there the bar is so low for New York football
quarterback place since Eli Manning retired. Let's just celebrate that.
It was fun Fireman d fling that hat into the crowd,
you know, have a good time. I get it. I
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think the margins are very thin on this team. I
think of a Breee Hall or a Garrett Wilson. I mean,
think about this week. Kittle's not gonna play, Debo's not
gonna play, McCaffrey's not gonna play. They're still favored by
a touchdown. That's the super Bowl teams. Tyreek Hill leaves
the Chiefs, they went back to back Super Bowls. The
margins for Kansas City are not thin. Buffalo without Stefan
(39:44):
Diggs looks really really good. Joe Burrow without t Higgins
went to Kansas City Arrowhead should have won the game.
That's not the Jets. If Garrett Wilson doesn't play, there
is no receiver including Mike Williams, that scares anybody on
that team. No, if Breece Hall goes down, margin thin.
The rookie running back from Wisconsin's a ball or he's
a big thick kid. You're not bursting breaking sixty yard
(40:06):
runs like Breeze Hall. So the Jets' margins are very thin.
San Francisco's aren't, right, Kansas cities aren't. Cincinnati can win
without t Higgins. In fact, they did last year. They
won with a backup quarterback last year. Jake Browning had
a winning record last year for Cincinnati. So let's let's
remember the Jets are still five days, just five days
(40:30):
away from escaping Will Levis. Thank god, Will Levis turned
it over. You're five days from that. That's not cynicism.
I'm just trying to be honest. Five days ago, you
were sitting on your couch. You were like tark, You
had that towel in your mouth. You're like, can we
(40:50):
get past Will Levis? Five days ago? Let's slow down
a little here. Is that negative is not going to
address that?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I'm sorry, next question because I know that's a question
thrown at my way. Oh you barely survive Will loves Yeah,
I could play that game with Patrick Mahomes two super
Bowl first two weeks.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Not really, but okay, hour two playing five
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All ride, Here we go. It is a Friday, baby.
Hope you enjoyed that Josh Allen interview on the Facility.
That was great live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd
wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. You know.
I drove into work today, Jmac, knowing how happy you
would be. And sometimes when a C student gets an
(00:46):
A there's no reason to be cynical, there's no reason
to be judgmental. Wow, the standard for Jet quarterback play
over the last seven eight years has been so low.
You should feel great today. All right, fan, you should
feel great, You should be happy today.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You're choosing violence early the standard. Come on Rogers with
lights out last night?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Colin went all right, so what's interesting about the NFL?
I said this yesterday? We kind of know how it's
gonna end up, but week to week you don't know
what happens. And so before the season started, Jay McK
and I went back and forth, and I said, I
think the Jets are gonna be a nine ish ten
win team. I think they'll be in the playoff race
with Miami for that wild card spot. Buffalo is gonna
win the division and they're already in first place. I said,
(01:30):
they'll be in that wild card spot until week sixteen,
seventeen eighteen. And that's what I thought. And so last
night's game in August looked like we thought it would
look in August, Aaron at home against the terrible Patriots team.
But when New England beat Cincinnati, I'm sitting there thinking, hey,
and New England's got to bite. They're terrible. Bill Belichick
(01:54):
left Girrod Mayo a mess. New England is talentless on offense,
so nothing personal. But Aaron teams at home against a
talentless New England team on a short week with a
rookie head coach. So here's what the Jets are. They
got crushed by a really good team. They crushed a
(02:17):
really bad team, and they had a real tug or
on the road against an average team. That's what they are.
But we know that Aaron is at his best when
he's comfortable and playing with the lead at home, decent protection.
He was comfortable last night again at home, playing a
bad team on a short week, had to go on
the road. Aaron was really comfortable and it felt good.
(02:38):
And the other thing is like Kirk Cousins on Monday
Night football, Kirk looked better on Monday Night than the
previous week. Kirk moved better. The happiest moment for the
Jets was the first time Aaron moved out to the right.
He got flushed out to the right, Aaron moved better.
So that is a really good feeling for the Jets
(02:59):
because in the post season, if you get there late
in the season, postseason January football, you got to extend plays.
You got to make plays off script. That's what Mahomes
is doing, Hurts is doing. You can't just be sitting
in the pocket. I don't care if you have the
best coach and the best roster Jimmy Garoppolo just sat
in the pocket. You want to be able to move.
And Erin now is moving. That's a great sign. So
if you extrapolate Aaron's numbers, if you take his first
(03:21):
three games and you extrapolate him over the season. Now
the schedule gets tougher. He's got to face Josh Allen
twice to what will be back, gotta face him twice late,
Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence. He's got to face much better quarterbacks.
And you cross your fingers on Garrett Wilson's health because
if he's gone, not the same offense. But if you
project Aaron's numbers, this is what they would look like
(03:41):
at the end of the year. Thirty five hundred yards,
one hundred three passer rating, complete, sixty seven percent of
his throws. Are you kidding me? New York Jets Football.
I would sign up for ten years of that. So
Aaron maybe forty. But like Kirk Cousins, he looks like
he can move a little bit. Now, let Jet fans
(04:02):
bask in the glory. I mean, just let them have it.
This is no day to be cynical for Jet fans.
They're gonna go on WFA and radio in New York
and this day they're buying their Super Bowl tickets. But
you remember yesterday I went on the show and I go,
I don't understand the line. And when I got off
the show, I got a text from a buddy. He goes,
Colin New England's bad on the road, short week, rookie coach,
(04:25):
bad quarterback play, that's why it's six and not three.
And I'm like, Okay, that's why he's a better I'm not.
That's why he's a pro. I'm not. But you figured
it out pretty quickly. Airin at home air uncomfortable a
team in a short week, there is no reason to
be cynical now. I think the Jets margins, I'll say
it again, are very very thin. If they lost a
Breese Hall or a Garrett Wilson, they gotta win with defense,
(04:47):
and I'm not sure this is a great defensive team,
although they looked great last night. But let's just take
a deep breath. A team that's been a D plus
C minus student at quarterback over the last decade on average,
they had an a night, let him have fun, a
second beer, let fireman ed, scream and yell, and they
(05:08):
don't get these very often. The Jets don't look good
at quarterback very often, so when they get it like
last night, yeah, I know it's New England. Yeah, I know.
We all thought New England would be the worst team
in the league. Wasn't they beat Cincinnati. We went, uh,
they're the worst team in the league. Here's a happy
Aaron Rodgers on a nice win. He looked good. New
York's happy. New York football hasn't been good Giants Jets
(05:30):
in years. Here's Aaron.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Feeling real good out there. I felt good pregame. And
you know I've been progressing. I said to you guys
after Week one. You know it's going to be a process.
I've continue to extend plays once I feel more comfortable.
And this was kind of the first step in playing
like I know I'm capable of playing. I felt like
I was, you know myself.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
He was. He looked good. No cynicism, no snarky, no condescending.
The Jets looked like, let's be honest. Before the season
in August, we said, you know, it's gonna be a
nine or ten win team. Nine or ten win teams
with a Hall of Fame quarterback, even if he's old,
are gonna hammer teams like New England at home. They
(06:13):
did good job so earlier in the day, the greatest
Major League baseball player ever, and I don't think it's close.
Had the greatest day for a player ever. Sho, hey A.
Tani went six for six, three home runs, ten RBIs,
seventeen total bases. And what's even more remarkable. This is
(06:36):
what's even more remarkable. This is a rehab year for him.
He's not pitching or fielding, so this is really a
rehab year for him. It's not fully healthy. When asked
about the pursuit of the fifty to fifty club fifty
home runs, fifty stolen bases, Otani had said, Hey, I
just want to get it over with, and yesterday he
(07:00):
got it over with.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
On a one two, Oh, Tani says her in the
air the other way, five kid goes good.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
One of a kind player, one of.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
A kind season.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
So hey o, Tony starts the fifty fifty club.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Now for most greatest players ever. That would be enough.
You'd go home in the clubhouse, pop open a cold,
one high five shower, go out. But show, hey, Otani
isn't just a great player, he is the most remarkable
baseball player ever. And it wasn't long after he joined
(07:46):
the fifty to fifty club he did this.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Hey guess so.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Oh, Tony the greatest day days time. This is not
real life.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
He is not a human.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I had said about two years ago, I thought Shoho
Tawi was better than Babe Ruth, and I got pushback.
I admit I was wrong. He's significantly better than Babe Ruth.
He is the first six tool player. I would like
to remind you again, this is a rehab season. He's
(08:31):
not fielding, he's not pitching. Even Mookie Bett said, I
don't know how to explain it. He's just feeling sexy.
He just has one of those days. He just feeling it.
This season, he is first in runs, second in hits,
first in home runs, first in RBI ops slugging percentage,
(08:53):
total bases. Shame, he's dropped a second in stolen basis.
You know, power hitters are not supposed to steal bases.
Power hitters look like guys who do deadlifts like five
times a week, and guys that steal fifty bases aren't
supposed to hit it like that. They're supposed to be twitchy. Yeah,
(09:14):
there's never been anything like this guy ever on a
absolutely loaded roster. Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts. There's talent everywhere
on this roster, even Otawani is markedly better, superior, more
remarkable than every other player. And oh yeah, for the
(09:35):
first time in his career, yesterday, among his personal exploits,
he clinched a playoff spot. So we'll get to see
him in October. He deserves it and so do we.
J Mac I'm sitting home waiting for the football game,
watching the Dodgers and thinking, sometimes, you know, I always
(09:56):
said there was one baseball player. There's only one athlete
my life that I didn't see play that I wish
I would have in all sports because I got old
Wilt Chamberlain, and that was Sandy Kofax, who literally the
greatest hitters of his time are like, yeah, Bob Gibson
was this. Bob Gibson was that. Nobody could hit Sandy Kofax,
(10:18):
Like the greatest players the Frank Robinson's are like, yeah,
you just couldn't hit him. This could literally not hit him.
And anybody born this morning may not get the prime
years of sho Hey Otani, but we are watching like
a modern day Babe Ruth. Although Ruth didn't really pitch
and hit in one season a lot, he was either
(10:40):
a hitter or a pitcher, and maybe Otani when he
pitches and hits next year, maybe the offensive numbers and
stolen bases come down. But that's the greatest baseball player
and the greatest day of his career ever. And it
was remarkable.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
What a night to be a sports fan. You've got
Otani going off six for six and then the Jets
getting the victory later. And I got a new pre
it this morning, a new paper weight here for the show,
for the desk, a little Jets performance. So the staff
is excited, and.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Uh, I am not going to be cynical. Oh, I
would hope not listen. After years of Tim Boyle, Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I don't even remind me of those guys.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
I know.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's like I was driving in this morning, I thought,
you know what, it's okay for people to be happy.
We're in a very divisive time in America. There's hate
and anger everywhere. Let's celebrate what the Jets did. Yeah,
it was a great date. New York football has been
in a tank for about a decade.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You want to sell fifteen quarterback hit, seven sacks, four
hundred yards of offense. Come it a lot to be
excited about. Oh, By the way, they got bo Nix
next week at MetLife bon Nix. But assuming he survives
this weekend in Tampa, things are looking up for the
New York Football Jets. Colin, Let's get excited.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Good for you, Blazing five, Blazing five in one forty
five minutes.
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I do it more than you think. Defend Aaron Rodgers,
but you just remember the negative stuff. I'm going to
defend Aaron Rodgers again on something. There was a moment
last night's second quarter when Aaron Rodgers and Robert Sala
had a really weird moment on the sidelines where Aaron
was obviously perturbed with Robert Sala when he came for
the push. And I'm going to defend Aaron Rodgers here,
Sala from my money is too raw raw. I like
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players to show emotion and position coaches to show emotion
because they're the most closely associated with players. But the
further you go up the coaching wrong. I want to
grown up. I need poise, I need composed I'll give
you an example, Jay Wright Villanova. They're facing North Carolina
in the National Championship Game and a shot goes through
for Villanova. Do you remember Jay Wright's reaction? Jay Wright
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as good as any basketball coach collegiately in the last
five ten years. That's how you act in the Natty.
In the moment, circumstance and situation, you should remain resolute.
By the way, remember the Andy Reid Travis Kelcey situation
at the Super Bowl. You know why that didn't blow up?
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Do you know why that was diffused? Can you imagine
if you did that the Robert sala It was diffused
because of Andy Reid's temperament. He just let it slide.
Sala is not a position. Coach Aaron Rodgers was right.
It was the second quarter, it was against awful New England.
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It's week three. Remember the Super Bowl, Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll.
New England had controlled the game, and here came Russell Wilson.
A big completion down the sideline literally was going to
change the Super Bowl. Seattle was done, and Belichick on
the sidelines just sat there and let the Seahawks burn
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a time out. He wanted them, He wanted Seattle to overreact,
his team was prepared. Kyle Shanahan looks like a cool
poker player. You don't know if he's winning or losing.
And again, I'm not against a fist pump. I'm not
against some energy, but save that for position coaches, players,
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even coordinators. Dude, unless it's the other coordinator's job, you
can take the headset off and fist pump it. But
to me, sola sometimes is too raw.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Raw.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Got to separate from that stuff. The Belichick's, the Jay Wrights,
the Andy Reids bark at officials, that's when Belichick uses
his energy. Mike Krzyzewski, Roy Williams bark at officials. But
players look up to coaches to be the adult in
the room. And that's what Aaron did last night. Bro Chill,
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second quarter New England at home Chill. Here's Aaron after.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
He's not a big hugger usually, so I don't know
he was going for the hug. He likes to do
the two hand chest push as well, so but he
talks a lot about two score leads.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah against not the end of the world. But it
was on social media a thing last night for a
couple of hours, and my take is Aaron's right, Like,
chill out, dude, it's no hugs. It's New England, it's home.
We're leading, it's week three, it's second quarter. We just
we just struggled. We just got blown out by San
Francisco and struggled to beat Well Levis. This is our
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job to do this, this is what we do. I'm
paid to beat New England at home in a short week.
That that's what I'm paid to. Don't celebrate a fundamental
part of your job. Hammer nail for a construction worker.
You're paid to do that. Talk on the microphone. I'm
paid to do that. We don't pump fists after a
good segment like Aaron's right here. Jmackl News, this is
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the Herdline News.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Slight disagreement. Can I just read you? Robert Solas coaching
seasons with the Jets four and thirteen, seven and ten,
seven and ten. The guy's excited, he can feel it,
he can sense his team is starting to come around.
Let him show emotion. You love it when I'm after
you do a segment, we go to commercial. I'm like
that was strong cowherd. I see you grinning. You like it?
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Infectious energy, positive, that's all he's trying to do. I
didn't like Rogers being like to chill out. I've been here.
It was a little off putting from Rogers. But he
has such a good night I can't hate him. All right,
let's get started. Let's get started with the Bengals. They
started zero to two for the third straight season, fifth
time in the last six years, but they were a
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play away from one and one. We won't rehash the
fourth and sixteen flag against KC and they have a
favorable matchup against the Commanders on Monday night. Joe Burrow
believes there's no reason to worry.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
We're in a fine spot now. We've been here before.
We're not panicking, so we're we're focused on getting to
win and getting better every day. We pride ourselves on us.
You're not being able to tough we win or lose
that practice. We're we're they go out and have fun
and get our work in and get better.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I have no concerns about Cincinnati. I think they're gonna
reel off seven wins in eight weeks. I think they're
gonna be just fine.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, I would agree. I don't know if we can.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I'm in.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Like I have a friend in the music business, and
he invited me to go see Green Day, Green Day
and Smashing Pumpkins. And when I saw Joe Burrow on
the screen there, he reminds me of like a blonde
version of the Green Day singer Billy Joe.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
He hung out and perished this off Seah.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
He is an interesting well.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I think my take is he's been injured multiple times
and Joe Burrow is not sure how long this is
gonna last. And Joe Burrow said, you know what, man,
I'm gonna live in the moment. Enjoy the hell out
of this. I'm gonna go to Paris in the fashion shows.
I'm gonna dye my hair. I'm gonna have a great year.
I do not know how long this is gonna lie,
because I've had three serious injuries and one more. They're
drafting the quarterback. So I think he just said, man,
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I'm gonna I'm gonna live in the moment. It's a
very very healthy way to live. I totally get it.
It's like I'm gonna live in the moment. I'm gonna
pump so wait, get jacked up, do my hair, go
to Paris, be fashionable. I am there for Joe Burrow.
I think it's a great I think more of us,
myself included, should do that. Live in the moment, stop
planning everything, live in the moment and just put it
all the line. And I just think all these injuries
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have added up to him waking up and realizes one
more injury. They are drafting another quarterback. I'm sorry they are.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean they might want to draft one anyway, just
in case. I mean, Jake Browning was good last year.
Bose it doesn't hurt to always draft a quarterback. Te
Higgins looks like he's trending toward playing this week on
Monday Night against the Commander's line is seven? What do
we say? Yeah? Seven?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Is there an argument for the commanders who have they've
looked capable of mesively?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, I think this is I don't. I don't like
to if I do blazing five. I rarely predict blow up.
Even last night, I thought it would be six, seven
point game, close game. I don't predict blowouts. But if
you told me there was a blowout, if you told
me there was one game this week that was an
absolute blowout, I would take Cincinnati and win by two
three touchdowns. I think I think they're an angry team
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that's good at home. Now they're more fully staffed commanders.
You know, they're feeling pretty good about how they kind
of Jaden's getting better. This pass rush from Cincinnati, I
think Cincinnati is gonna well.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
It's mostly Henderson. I will say, I don't think the
Washington punted once last week against the Giants. They just
could not convert in the red zone. I do think
the Bengals score a lot of pois. They could, They
could hang forty on Washington's defense. This is like, oh wait,
we've got Joe Burrow and t Higgins and Washington.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Really, I mean, you know what Washington's gonna draft next year. Secondary. Yeah,
they just don't have the dudes like you just see,
like you can see certain teams and you're like they're
bad there and so.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
In like Hunter, Travis Hunter maybe played defense.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Unless I wants the I was Washington. They're not going
to have the first pick, but they have to go
get a star in the in the back end. I mean,
Baker Mayfield made them look like a seven on seven drill.
It was brutal.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Next up, the Dallas Cowboys, coming off a just a
shocking blowout loss of the Saints, and now they match
up with the hungry, angry zero to two Ravens in
America's Game of the Week on Fox. Michael Irvin, remember
earlier this week, made some comments about America's team. Now
Emmett Smith is piling on. Oh boy, you listen to this.
I'm not sure last week was just a debacle.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
It just was a tobacco period and we didn't then
rise up like we should have, and maybe we don't
have that talented of the football team to rise up
and do what people expect. I feel like some of
our players, whether this be on the offensive side or
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even on the defensive front, we could be playing with
some what I would call back in the day, playing
be a player.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
See, guys, I think that's very fair. That's been my
argument that they have one great player, Ceedee Lamb, who
is good against any competition, any day, home, away, any team.
Micah parsons Is and Dak Prescott are situationally elite players,
depends on where they're playing, who they're playing, who they're
matched up against. Ceedee Lamb's they're one great player, and
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there are teams in this league like San Francisco that
have six to seven great players, Philadelphia four to five
great players and multiple half dozen really good players. Dallas
just didn't have that many great players. I mean, it's
it's ceedee Lamb is separated from Micah Parsons. Micah Parson's
been in three playoff games, has one sack.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
So is this way is his way of kind of
needling Jerry Jones and me, like, dude, you're picking the players, right,
the Jones are picking the players. Why are there only
a few good players and a lot of B and
C type guys. That's not nice. Emitt Smith. I'm sure
Jerry Jones is gonna be kicked off at that, right.
I don't think he put together the roster.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, it's just they don't. I mean again, there was
a few years ago when they had Tyron Smith closer
to his prime and Zach Martin closer to his prime.
You know, there have been times in the last six
seven years Amari Cooper Zeke was still in his friand
go go back a few years, but they've aged or
move off them because they had to do because with
their PANDAX. So it's just the rosters just they got
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a couple of DB's. I like, but you're not gonna
DB's do not win super Bowls? Pass rushes?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Weapons? Do quarterbacks? Do coaches?
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Due?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's congrats on having good young corners. That's not changing things.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
And the kid A Bland who had a good year
last year, he's hurt. I mean, it's not looking good
for Dallas in The schedule is brutal. Let's go to
the final story, Colin. This is justin herbert saga in Carolina.
Remember they stayed east. But Herbert is dinged up ankle,
heavily taped. He was on the practice field but did
not participate in any drills during the session open to
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the media. Now, I don't know if Harball's playing games.
Rapidport has come out in Rapaport NFL Network and said
he was extremely limited in practice. But is this gamesmanship?
We saw it from Lafloor last week. Oh, Jordan Love,
he's in, he's playing. Obviously he didn't play, But is
this Herbert doing nothing when the media is there? Then
they kicked the media out and was Herbert running drills?
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We don't know. I don't know this is a game.
I thought Chargers were maybe the side, and I don't.
I don't know if I feel that way because remember
Chiefs on deck?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Do you trot.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Herbert out there?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
No? This is so this was gonna be one of
my bets for Blazing five, and I'll give your heads
up it wasn't. And that's one of the things I
thought about. It wasn't the injury as much because I
do think he'll play. But my takeaway is there are
moments over the season you're playing a huge rival, next
your quarterback's dinged up, where like if it went sideways
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fast and Herbert they got behind early. I could see
it halftime, Harbaugh saying, hey, we're just kicking this one
of the curb. Let's go get the Chiefs. I this
to me is just a game. I just want to watch.
I just I want to watch this game because this
this team, even with Harbaugh, is not close to the
same team without Herbert.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So there's another one of those games this week. Kind
of quietly the Jordan Love situation. You see the Packers,
who they have next week divisional matchup with Minnesota. Do
you put Jordan Love out there against Tennessee again? No,
if you're not doing that well, Tennessee's probably the side
and here Pittsburgh's no, that's a.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Good point by you. You don't that's it. By the way,
that's another game I stayed away from, play the long game.
I'm not betting on the Chargers this week. I'm not
betting on the Packers this week. Those are just because
there's stuff going on where the quarterbacks both could play.
But I'm not sure. If I was a coach, I'd
play with the big with the big game coming up
the following week.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
So then why not just take the other side and
say give me Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I like certainties, I like answers. Quarterbacks, like I tend
to try to find value. What's the value for the
Chargers of Herbert doesn't play? They have no value?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, can you imagine backing Justin Fields then watching him
struggle might because listen, he hasn't had a turnover yet.
You no, they're coming. That's what he that's his career
in the NFL. And then you know the second you
back him, it's just.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Like what did I do?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Herd Lie shows George Kittle may not play now for
the Niners, So no Christian McCaffrey, no Debo, and probably
no George Kittle, basically brought Purty in the San Francisco
weapons have gone from stacked to normal. They still have
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a great offensive head coach and the best left tackle
in football, and a dominant number one receiver Brandon Aik
number three PFF receiver last year, and a good second
receiver in A Jennings, So they'll just be normal this weekend.
By most standards, they'll have a normally weaponized offense. But
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that's what franchise quarterbacks are about. It's not about winning
when you have the best hand in poker. It's about
winning when you're missing a right tackle and your number
one receiver, no Debo, no Christian McCaffrey, and no Kittle.
We all know you'd need those guys to win a
Super Bowl, But against the dinged up Rams, I don't
care where the game is being played, Brock Purty should
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be okay. You should not need an abnormally stacked roster
to be excellent. It's like the band who releases a
really good studio album and you're like, Wow, they're good
in studio, but you want to make sure, Like when
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you see them live first Queen great studio album, better
live at Wembley Stadium. I don't want to see Brock
Purtty look like Milli Vanilli this weekend when the record
skips and he's running off stage and he almost anybody
can produce a good studio album. Let's go live in
front of a few thousand people. Anybody can do a
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banger in the studio. Anybody when you have Chris Jen
and Kyle and Trent and Kittle and Deebo and I Yuk,
it's a layup drill. Here was Brock Purdy about having
to oh my, having to carry a little bit of
the offense.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
We never asked Brock to really do too much. We
ask them to do the play that's called if nothing's there,
what are your options after that? You scramble, You throw
things away, sometimes you take a sack. Things you always
try to do is not turn it over. But nothing
really changes when you're missing guys. It's game plan can
sometimes change. But now what you ask the quarterback to.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Do, obviously that's Kyle, not Brock. So we'll see. I
know you all think I'm anti this and anti that.
I'm not anti Brock Purdy, but you know he does
feel a little bit like a trust fund kid. You know,
he basically gets all the gifts. I mean it's like
Magic Johnson got Kareem, Okay, but then Magic Johnson that
rookie year, Kareem gets hurt, he has to play center. Okay,
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that's fine, but most people don't inherit Kareem in his prime.
And I'm just saying. I'm not saying that some trust
fun kids aren't hard workers and wouldn't have done well
without the trust fund, but it helps a lot, right,
you know that money coming in every month when you
inherit debo and now you can Kittle and Trent Williams
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and Kyle. I'm just trying to contextualize this a little.
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Speaker 1 (29:42):
All Right, we got to talk about the Bears play
the Colts. This is a really, really big game between
two young quarterbacks who have enormous talent, Kayleb Williams Bears,
Anthony Richardson Cols. So forget the results when it comes
to the Bears. I just want to see progress offensively.
I just want some progress. They have no run game
so far, no run game twenty eight in the league.
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Their last in passing yards. Their offensive line was ranked nineteenth. Pff.
It's like having kids. I've lowered my expectations. At first
I thought they could be president. Then I'm hoping for employment,
and now I'm just keeping them alive. At this point,
I'm just looking for something, a plan. It looks like
they've practiced a semblance of a run game. The Colts
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don't have much of a run defense, and DeForest Bruckner's
out their best defensive lineman. So my take is, if
I am Chicago, go back to the basics. Let's formalize
a run game. Let's give some direction to the offense,
because right now it looks like innermural football. I'm just
watching Caleb Williams run around. You can see the talent.
He got a power arm. He is a unbelievable athlete.
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He's got a power arm. This is not like Anthony
Richards said of the Colts who can't make five yard
passes out in the flat. He's slinging it into the
first row. Greg Cosell was on yesterday. He talked about
the good, the bad, the ugly with Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
There's a significant difference which I think a lot of
people are unclear about, between leaving the pocket and making
plays with your legs outside the pocket and moving within
the pocket. Those are two totally different things. That is
an area that Caleb Williams needs to get better at.
We know he can be great getting out of the pocket,
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and one thing that he has to stop doing in
the NFL is retreating backwards. You can't retreat backwards in
the NFL. There may be one quarterback I've ever seen
that can do that, and that's Lamar Jackson. But you
can't play that way. So he has to learn to
move within the pocket to sort of find a quiet
space in which to deliver the football. Because I'll tell
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you what, the ball comes out of his hand beautifully.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, this is not an Anthony Richardson thing where you're
not sure he's ever going to complete fifty percent of
his throws. You can see the talent. It's very similar
to me that Josh Allen came into this league before
Stefan Diggs. It was like year two if you go
to Josh Allen's non numbers before Stefon Diggs got there.
If you go to those numbers, he had twenty touchdown passes.
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That was it. Now I had nine rushing touchdowns and
they won ten games. But he was scrapping. I mean,
he was completing in the fifty eight to fifty nine percent.
That's what Josh Allen was doing. And that was with
Brian day Boll before he got Stefan Diggs. So Keenan
Allen has not played. Keenan Allen's a great situational third
down receiver. DJ Moore can go deep, but Keenan Allen's
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your veteran piece. You're big receiver, big target guy. So
there's stuff here. There's other young quarterbacks, Bryce young I
don't see the stuff like I just don't see it.
Or there's Bo Nicks where there's talent, but there's limitations.
Caleb's got everything. He's just they got to give him
a run game. They got to look like something right now,
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it's intermural football, So Dallas Baltimore. So this is a game.
I think I'm gonna take Lamar over Dak because I
think the rosters are pretty similar, and I think both
coaches have won a Super Bowl. But the funny thing
about the NFL. I said this last night about New England.
New England beat Cincinnati in the first week of the season, well,
the first week of the NFL season. The last three years,
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you've had a huge upset in week one. Don't make
anything of it. New England's bad, They're awful, and Cincinnati
should have beaten in Kansas City the Chiefs. So Cincinnati's
one two, but they're fine. New England's unwatchable. I mean, actually,
that should have been a beautiful game to watch last night,
but it was really boring because New England is so bad.
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So if the Dallas Cowboys beat Lamar Jackson, and we
know Lamar Jackson is virtually unbeatable when he faces the NFC,
he's twenty and one better winning percentage than Mahomes. He's
twenty and one. So if the Cowboys come out and
win this game and they're at home, then we can
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look at their season and go, well, they've blasted Cleveland
and they beat Baltimore. It happens. Teams get blown out,
and it does. Last year, the Chiefs got blown out
by the Broncos and they won the Super Bowl twenty
four to nine. San Francisco got crushed a couple of times,
once by the Bengals. The Lions got shredded by the
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Ravens thirty eight to six. And we think Detroit's pretty good.
It happened. Tom Brady had bad bad Week sixes week eight.
It happens. So if they go out and beat the Ravens,
and I still think the Ravens may not make the playoff.
But it's a good team. It's a great coach, it's
a great quarterback, great left tackle. I like their weapons. Finally,
great safety, great center. They got some good players. And
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if Dallas wins, regardlesf it's overtime, it's close, it's a
situational whatever. Then you could look at New Orleans and go, yeah,
it's a one off. It happens. So but I do
think this game is important and the reason it's important
is Dallas did not get a friendly schedule. So we
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looked at their schedule and we thought, oh, they should
beat Cleveland, New Orleans Baltimore will be the first tough game.
But after this, now you look at yourself and you
go in the New York's a pushover. Well, New York's
offensive lines playing really well, and the Cowboys defensive line,
according to PFF, is awful. So that could be a
little closer than you think. There's a lot of Detroit,
San Francisco, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Houston, Cincinnati. I had a lot
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of tough games for Dallas in their schedule, so this
is like a big game. Okay, So was the Saints
a one off and it happens they just got just
get blown out. You just you know, something sneaks up
on you. You're not ready for it. I mean New
Orleans we didn't know much. I mean, did I talk
once in the offseason, did J Mack talk once about
Clint Kubiak, just like, oh, they're really good. Suddenly Houston
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snuck up on us. Last year, Saints snuck up on us.
Here was Micah Parsons on trying to slow down Lamar
Jackson in the Ravens, run game.
Speaker 11 (35:50):
Toughness, step up. Ain't know the choice Jack, how We're
gonna come downhill whether or not Sunday night. So it's
not like a matter of oh, are you gonna stars,
is you going to do it or not? You know,
I know I'm ready for the match up.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
By the way, I want to go back to the
top of the show on Aaron Rodgers and because listen again,
if New England loses to Cincinnati in Week one, we
would have gone into last night's game going it's gonna
be ugly. But they didn't. And then we watched Cincinnati
last week outplay the Chiefs, and we're like, hey, and
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New England took Seattle to overtime to beat Cincinnati. And
then it's Week three, Week four, week five. The longer
the NFL season goes, the truth comes out. And so
New England's bad. But I did think, and I've been
from the beginning offseason. I said the Jets are a
nine and ten win team. They're not a twelve, thirteen
to fourteen win team. I just don't think they have
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the depth offensively. I don't love their offensive coordinator. And
now they got banged up injuries. But I did think
the best part of this game as a Jets fan
is Aaron moved. You've got to move in this league.
I'm showing this to our TV audience, and again I'm
not asking for thirty seven yard runs, but can you
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get flushed out? Here's Aaron, He's flushed out. It's a
big part of it. If you go to playoff games,
it's amazing how often the game changes off script. Mahomes
wins a super Bowl on a bad leg. He as
a forty yard scramble. That's the super Bowl. And so
you don't have to be Lamar Jackson. In fact, I
would argue, if you're too gifted, you'll be prone to
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run more than you probably should. But you gotta move.
I said this about Kirk Cousins on Monday Night Football.
Kirk's never been a mover, but he moved in the
pocket against the Eagles. I felt like first week against
the Steelers, You're like, dude, he's just catching the snap,
planting and throwing. He doesn't want to move. Five six
more days of practice rehabbing, it's like, oh, okay, that
(37:58):
looks like the old Kirk, or closer to the old Kirk.
So Aaron in the first couple of weeks. My big
knock was he's playing within a three four foot radius,
like you can't. You can't beat the good team, especially
in the AFC. You're not beating a Burrow, A Lamar
or Herbert A Mahome. Those guys are all moving.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
C J.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Stroud moves.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
C J.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Stroud's not a runner, but he can move. Aaron last night,
I thought, looked like Green Bay. Aaron. He doesn't run,
and when he first came into the league, his first
seven eight, nine years now he ran and scrambled forward
for yards. I just need a guy that buys time,
and I thought Aaron last night. My take was, oh,
this is good. He's getting flushed out. Tom Brady's the
(38:38):
outlier in the exception Well, Brady Belichick, Brady Gronk, best
quarterback of all time. Okay, that's that's total exception. Smartest
guy that's ever taken a snap pre snap genius, manipulated
teams more than they could manipulate him, and seen everything
played forever, New every DC, every defense, every coverage. It's
(39:00):
not Aaron. He needs to move some what move? And
I thought last night, I'm like, okay, all right, he's
out of the little box. And that's good. And again,
I don't want to be cynical on the Jets because
there the bar is so low for New York football
quarterback place since Eli Manning retired. Let's just celebrate that.
It was fun Fireman d fling that hat into the crowd,
you know, have a good time. I get it. I
(39:22):
think the margins are very thin on this team. I
think of a Breee Hall or a Garrett Wilson. I mean,
think about this week. Kittle's not gonna play, Debo's not
gonna play, McCaffrey's not gonna play. They're still favored by
a touchdown. That's the super Bowl teams. Tyreek Hill leaves
the Chiefs, they went back to back Super Bowls. The
margins for Kansas City are not thin. Buffalo without Stefan
(39:44):
Diggs looks really really good. Joe Burrow without t Higgins
went to Kansas City Arrowhead should have won the game.
That's not the Jets. If Garrett Wilson doesn't play, there
is no receiver including Mike Williams, that scares anybody on
that team. No, if Breece Hall goes down, margin thin.
The rookie running back from Wisconsin's a ball or he's
a big thick kid. You're not bursting breaking sixty yard
(40:06):
runs like Breeze Hall. So the Jets' margins are very thin.
San Francisco's aren't, right, Kansas cities aren't. Cincinnati can win
without t Higgins. In fact, they did last year. They
won with a backup quarterback last year. Jake Browning had
a winning record last year for Cincinnati. So let's let's
remember the Jets are still five days, just five days
(40:30):
away from escaping Will Levis. Thank god, Will Levis turned
it over. You're five days from that. That's not cynicism.
I'm just trying to be honest. Five days ago, you
were sitting on your couch. You were like tark, You
had that towel in your mouth. You're like, can we
(40:50):
get past Will Levis? Five days ago? Let's slow down
a little here. Is that negative is not going to
address that?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I'm sorry, next question because I know that's a question
thrown at my way. Oh you barely survive Will loves Yeah,
I could play that game with Patrick Mahomes two super
Bowl first two weeks.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Not really, but okay, hour two playing five
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