July 16, 2025 • 40 mins
Colin explains why the MLB All-Star game was a complete hit last night.
The Dallas Mavericks are the favorite to somehow get LeBron James.
Caitlin Clark is showing everyone how the WNBA needs to improve.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
It is a midweek Wednesday. Hey tell me this is
a slow week. It doesn't feel like it. We've got
a lot to talk about. We are live, We're in Chicago.
It's The Herd, Jmac Major League Baseball. I know on
these shows, nobody likes anybody in power. They don't like.
They don't like people in Canada. If you're the prime minister,
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everybody's devisive. Nobody likes commissioners, but Rob Manfred Baseball has
been a case study in how to pivot in a
business that's got tradition and lore and history and a
lot of purists. Last night was three and a half
hours of great television for an exhibition. It was really good?
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Was that not fun? That was as good as all? Yeah?
I mean the Pro Bowls unwatchable, NBA All Star Games unwatchable.
I know I'm gonna sound like a Homer. But the
Fox production on that broadcast last night was magnificent, a
masterclass in TV production. Between that the ABS system, lots
of runs. Let's talk about it because major League Baseball
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a couple of years ago got over itself and decided
let's lean into entertainment. They didn't need to revolutionize. They
just kind of needed to retro fit. What the twenty
three year olds and thirty one year olds, what do
they want to watch? Home run derby ratings up last night?
I'm sure ratings will be significantly up. Miking Clayton Kershaw
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a legend? Are Sandy Kofax? Miking him? I could have
sat and watched that for an hour. Here's a clip.
I can't believe you're doing this, Clayton.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Okay, e there, let's try to throw some cheese real quick.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
All right?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Going cheese again?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Oh yeah, that's smart. I mean you and Paul Skeens
are pretty much the same guy right down the middle.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm so glad you didn't swing.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
What do you want, smoltzy?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
What do you want?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Cut her in? Slider in?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I don't throw a cutter smelty slider, son of them?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
All right, what's the count too too, so weird.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Talking to you guys.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It's kind of hey, sit him.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Down, thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
That was fun.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That was fun.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I kind of just sat and watched that. That's fascinating,
an inside glimpse, lean into entertainment, lean into technology. Now
some of baseball's growth, it's because Aaron Judge plays for
the Yankees, no tany plays for the Dodgers, and the
Dodgers have might as well have a Nationalague All Star team,
but they're stars in Kansas City and stars in Pittsburgh,
and the sport just stop fawning over tradition and stop
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taking itself so seriously and also wearing the real jerseys
for casuals and purists alike. That last two years have
been amazing by this sport. And so the National League
jumped out to a six nothing lead. I was just
about ready to tweet NL once again better than the AL.
But they had a big six inning, a couple of
home runs for the National League, and it looked like
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Paul Stein's was going to walk out of there with
a win. But that didn't last long because the American
League roared back from a six nothing deficit because of Hello,
the Sacramento A's Brent Rooker, let's hear it, wait to
go with Pete A. Lonzo, Let's hear it for the
Sacramento A's bringing the American League back from a six
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to nothing deficit. So then as they eventually tied it,
they didn't go to extra innings because teams don't want
to have players then flying home off a fourteen inning game.
So they went to a swing off, and the great
Kyle Schwarber, who just hits bombs for all living went
three for three. And here's how it ended. They rallied
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in the game and has rallied in the swing of tricks.
Look out chop house. National League takes the lead four
to three. Unbelievable. The National League wins it in the
first swing off. Kyle Schumer wins it going three for three.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I gotta say, you know, it was pretty exciting, Like
all of a sudden, here we go in the in
the camaraderie that you you kind of build these last
couple of days with the team, I think went into
overdrive there, Like guys were i mean our side to
see how excited they were out there, and like, you know,
it's like, you know, whiffleball in the backyard. Here we go,
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let's do it again.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Didn't need to revolutionize the sport, speed it up, retro
fit it, make moments big events that felt big last night.
That's the best All Star game in any sport I've
watched in five or six years. And the last time
I saw a great All Star game it was baseballs.
But now, and you know, listen, some of it is
the stars are in Philadelphia, in LA and New York,
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the Mets and the Yankees, and and some of it's
that Chicago, but a lot of it is Rob Manfred
just saying, leaning into networks, listening to Fox and other
networks on making more moments big. The technology was great.
It doesn't hurt that Joe Davis sounds like a young
Vin Scully. It just felt magnificent. It felt big, and
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baseball has been in about a three year heater. Two
things can be true. You can respect tradition but not
be beholden to it. And that's what baseball has done
a very good job of. And last night fantastic, just
fantastic television. Beginning to end. I watched an hour and
a half of the pregame show. That's how much. I
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was into it. Okay, so I said yesterday this. You
know it's July. So any little breadcrumb of an NBA
or star rumor, it's an inferno. I don't buy Lebron
James is going to get traded. He's still really good.
It's an expiring contract. Let's see what happens to the
trade deadline. The Lakers could have even more leverage. But
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I'm looking at the betting odds today and they are
heating up that Dallas. Dallas is the favorite now to
get Lebron James. Well, if that's the case, Lebron wins again.
No state tax, upgraded coach Cooper flag reunited with Anthony Davis.
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Are you kidding me? Let's be honest about the Lakers.
I think JJ Reddick had a decent first year. I
like him. We don't know if he's ever going to
be as good as Jason Kidd. Maybe not. He got
worked in the series against Minnesota. DeAndre Ayton doesn't defend
and has an attitude and has in Phoenix and Portland.
Austin Reeves, I'm told, can't trade him seriously, not much
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of a bench, not much size so or no state tax.
Jason Kidd unbelievable size, including a D. I mean I
said this, yet you have Luca. But here's a potential lineup. Now,
for simplicity's sake, I said, if you did a trade,
let's say you give them Coop, you give them Klayt Thompson, PJ. Washington,
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Daniel Gafford two to three first round picks. This is
the Mavericks lineup, Kyrie Irving, Cooper Flag, Lebron, Anthony Davis,
and Derek Lively. Now again, they'll probably need a third
team and you'll have to give up a couple of
first round picks. But who cares. You have Cooper Flag
and Derek Lively. You've got a great wing and a
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great big on rookie deals for years. So you're telling
me this is a punishment for Lebron. I would sign
up for that today. Better coach reunited with two guys
I've played very well with and won a title with
Kyrie and Anthony Davis and the great domestic star. And
here's the thing with Lebron. Lebron is forty one years old.
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He does not want to be in the floor defending
at an elite level. He doesn't well Anthony Davis and
Lively are great rim protectors, so you don't have to
worry about that. And Cooper Flag, at least at the
college level, is an excellent defender. I don't know if
Cooper Flag is going to be a great offensive player
in the NBA. He's gonna be a really good defender. Okay,
so he may only average twenty four tops, I don't
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know he'll defend year one. So if this is the
punishment for Lebron James, sign up now for it. I
don't think it's gonna happen. Here was Anthony Slater from
The Athletic on a potential Lebron trade out of LA.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
The Lakers, you know, can go search for, you know,
a younger co star for Luka Doncics in the in
the market if they want to. Flexibility optionality has become
a popular term in the league, and that's clearly what
the Lakers they are prioritizing here. And it's understandable. Just
look at the ages.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Lebron's gonna turn forty one next year. It's unbelievable what
he's been able to do.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
But as you.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Mentioned, locking into longer term money on him, you know,
kind of handcuffed them a little bit on building around Luca.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Listen, if if Lebron won a fourth title and that
team with Anthony Davis, if you can keep Lively in
Anthony Davis as rim protectors, because you're gonna have to
get they have so much depth in Dallas in their
front line. They're huge, best center rotation in the league.
Lakers need, I mean Deondre eight and you're going to
be over him by like January fifteenth. You're going to
be over his act. So you could get some size
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from Dallas, a bunch of draft picks, and I think
that's what the new owners want. They don't want to
be tied to like gigantic, massive contract. You probably have
to give up Klay Thompson. He could come back to
Los Angeles. Michael Thompson, his dad, a very nice guy,
played for the Lakers. Send him draft picks size. But
if that's punishment, I said this. You know, sports is
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a little like the stock market. It just depends on
the day. The tariffs are going to ruin the economy.
I don't know. I looked at the stock market this week.
It's at forty four thousand plus the Dow. It just
depends on the day the moment, the reaction, investor sentiment.
When this trade got done, Luca to the Lakers, it
was the end of the Mavericks franchise. And I said,
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on this show in front of this microphone, no it's not. Now.
Dallas fell apart physically, so it looked far worse than
it was. But Laker fans got a glimpse of what
Luca is singularly, a profoundly gifted offensive player, that's what
he is. And he kind of feels like he's aging quickly.
So you know, I've always said that you can talk
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about guys all you want. When they're on your team,
you pay close attention. Everybody said Lakers are going to
win titles and Dallas is done, and I kept saying, no,
they're not. They've got a great coach, it's an attractive place.
They got Kyrie, they've got Anthony Davis and a man
center rotation. And in the NBA, guards and bigs are
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really important. Right now. You know, you're gonna have to
defend Jokic, gonna have to defend Wemby, you gotta defend Giannis.
You know you gotta have bigs. Okay, see, you won
a title, had two Bigs, Holmgren, Hartenstein. So this is
just so funny. The way sports works is everybody thought
Dallas was doomed. If this thing came to fruition, sign
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me up for Dallas minimum Western Conference finals. J Mac
doesn't want to hear it. I'm becoming a Mavericks fan.
My only question is would the GM Nico Harrison want
to make another deal. I would do that deal in
one second. I'd give you two bigs, three first round picks,
Klay Thompson, put in a third team and every I've
said this before, Austin Reeves with Lebron James, you're talking
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yourself into Wow. Put Austin Reeves in Washington and he disappears,
He disspeers. Kyle Kuzman disappeared in Washington, and he's his
talent that as Austin reads are close.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So Colin, yeah, yeah, obviously, if you're the MAVs, you
do this deal in a heartbeat. What's in it for
the Lakers?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Those picks they're gonna be garbage. There's two or three picks.
They're gonna be like twenty seven to thirty two.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Remember, you have new ownership and they want to build
it there. What did the Dodgers do when Mark Walter
came in? Give us draft picks, get our front office right.
They do not want aging players. The Lakers history is
size wins, get draft picks. And by the way, when
Lebron contract is off the books and he's out, then
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you can go big game hunting in one year. I
don't think it's gonna happen. I don't. But if that's
punishment for all the people that think Lebron's gonna get traded,
I would sign up today for that deal.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well wait a sec. If I'm the Lakers, there's no
way I'm doing the deal. But if you swap out
Gafford for Lively, Lively's younger, he does seem a little
injury prone, younger and cheaper. I want that. I don't want.
I'm sorry, I don't want the Daniel Gafford contract on
my books. By the way, the Lakers want clean books
because they think maybe Jokics could be available in a
year or two. Yanis could be available in the year
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or two. I don't know where they come to La.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
To play with Luca.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, if san Antonio starts winning, you're gonna have to
go through Wemby. So if I'm the Lakers, the reason
I think of doing this deal with Dallas is I
need a front line. DeAndre Ayton doesn't defend. We're very cool.
We may see it this year with all the way
that dominoes are falling for San Antonio, the West may
go through San Antonio, not Denver Oklahoma City if Wemby
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becomes what we think is because Wemby's already got a
couple of kids next to him that can really play.
So if it has to go through Wemby, you can't
have Jackson Hayes or DeAndre Ayton. You need multiple bigs
and multiple fouls.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
What about the Houston Rockets? Does Kevin Durant have a say?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I think they're te I love that team this year.
In the next year, your team with KD, Let's see
what transpires.
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Speaker 1 (14:43):
Welcome back. You know, for years and years I always said,
the audience drives the bus of this show. I watch
you and see what you're watching, and I follow your lead.
And if we were just talking about this as a
staff three years ago, I would not have been spending
this much time on baseball or the WNBA. I watched
the ratings they increased. I follow you. So it's just
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very refreshing for me. In July, we don't have to
talk a ton of NFL yet because there's really good
stuff going on. And last night I watched as I
was watching the All Star Game, I was on another TV.
I was watching Caitlin Clark in the Indiana Fever. So
I've compared her to Michael Jordan, not stylistically obviously, but
in merchandise sales. Kind of a dynastic TV rating changer.
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And in year one, like you just were like Wow,
nobody plays like that. And then in year two Michael
Jordan got hurt. And then in year two for Caitlyn Clark,
she's getting banged up and hurt. Why did the Jay
always get hurt early? Because they were tackling and nobody
knew how to stop him. And the WNBA officiating is
just changed like it's it was always a physical league,
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now it's insane. So last night she gets hurt again
and she's in a shooting slump. But I think a
lot of it is she's banged up in year two
like Michael Jordan, and Michael was fighting to come back
and she's fighting to come back and she reinjured a groin.
So she's still scoring and still a team leader and assists,
but she's been banged up. And you know, by the
way her brother went to social media last night, no
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lies told Colin Clark said, make no mistake, this is
on the reffing and even Stephanie White Fever coach, has
noticed it. The officials are just letting a lot of
stuff go that almost feels inappropriate.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
I'm not exactly sure why, but it just is what
it is, and we've got to help her learn to
adjust and use it against them in certain ways. You know,
we've got to find find some ways to make it
a little bit easier for her. But the level of
physicality overall in our league has been at a different
level than it's been for a long time.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
And so she's probably hurt again and again. It has
an MJ feel rocket to the moon year two. A
lot of physicality allowed injuries. Nobody quite knows how to
defend her. You know, the Pistons are picking on the
Celtics are picking on MJ, who's dropping fifty and Caitlin
Clark now is alienating some of the players. And I
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you know, Hollywood knows how to handle stars. There's a playbook,
but I noticed this when Tiger Woods came to the
PGA tour at the first or Caitlin Clark a little turbulence.
They don't quite have a playbook on how to do it.
And I think that right now they need better officials.
Right now, WNBA officials make less, according to the Washington Post,
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than college officials do. That's a problem. They're paying as
little as one hundred and eighty dollars to WNBA officials.
I'm sorry the leagues are arrived four fifty minimum, five
fifty six, fifty seven fifties what officials should be making.
But what Caitlin Clark is is she is little a
little bit like a black light in a hotel room,
or she's illuminating all the flaws and you bring that
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black light in and uh, oh, need another cleaning crew
in the hotel room. So first she illuminated, uh the
executive level of the w n b A and their
inability to market or kind of ce around corners. Then
she illuminated how second and third tier the w NBA
travel was. And then she sort of provided a glimpse
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of the pettiness and the tribal nature of this this
league which is still young. And you know, also she
kind of provided a glimpse of black light on the
women's Olympic basketball movement and how silly that was and
behind the curve that was. So she's really providing glimpses
of you, you're seeing all of it in real time.
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Is that she's saying, guys, let's get let's get better fast.
And she's almost like a stress test to a power grid.
And we've got rolling blackouts in the w n b A.
They just the league, the marketing, the players, the travel.
Now we're seeing the officiating needs to be upgraded. So
I don't want to be too punitive because the games
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are fun to watch when she involved, but she is
really kind of giving you a glimpse in real time
of how the league needs to improve. And I think
the officiating is the next step that she's going to
do to officiating what she did at travel. It's timed upgrade.
You can't have college officials making more than WNBA officials,
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and I got nothing against college officiating. Women's basketball is,
you know, by and large, more national and popular than
the WNBA has been for years until Caitlin arrived. But
the officiating's out of control. I mean, Sophie Cunningham last
night looked like hockey. They got checked into the boards.
You know, well, she's flopping. Not really, it was a
stiff arm. I don't think it was flopping. So it's
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just the latest illumination. And this is what happened when
a star shows up on tour. The marketing's got to
get better, the travels got to get better, the security's
got to get better better, the executive suites got to
get better. And you're seeing all of it here's Jmack
with the news. No, no turn on the news.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
This is the herd.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Line news, All right, Colin. After last night's All Star Game,
the thriller that went deep into the night, Yankees legends
Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter both make some pretty bold
claims about their former team. Take a listen.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
So this year, I am going with the New York Yankees,
Brian Cashman, Yankees are gonna beat the Cubs in the
World Series. Going with the Yankees because Casman basically said
he's all in, so I expect the Yankees to do
something to trade that life whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
GM.
Speaker 10 (20:32):
There's gonna be a competition of the best front office
that does the most bold moves in the trade deadline,
and I'm gonna go with the most resources Yankees and Dodgers.
All the eyes will be on Brian Cashman to make
the move to get finally get over the La.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Dodgers in October. I actually agree with that. Cubs are
pretty good, though I will say this, the Dodgers got
to get their pitching right, which I think they will.
But I also feel like, and I'm no Yankee expert,
but with Garrett Cole not here, I think the American
League is weaker. The Yankees can get to a World Series.
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But when you watch the World Series last year with
the Dodgers, everybody talks about Aaron Judge fifth inning air.
But the truth was when Garrett Cole did not pitch,
and those two games he pitched, they were as good
as the Dodgers. He was the equalizer when he wasn't
pitching in that series, the Dodgers ran the bases better,
were more athletic, had more versatility and power all through
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the line. It looked like a total mismatch, a roster
composition when Garrett Cole wasn't pitching and he's out. So
if they want to make a trade, they got to
get an arm or two at the deadline.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I like how both a Rod and Jeter referenced Ryan Kashman,
both of them, Colin, is this a nod Yankees guys
to another Yankee, Bryan, go get us what we need
to finish the job. I don't know. I read this.
The Yankees still need more pieces and they got to
make some moves here, Colin. I think they're close. I
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don't hate the Yankees pick. It's tough to go against
the Dodgers going to be at full strength, and their
three best players in the World Series last year were
Juan Soto, Garrett Colin, Aaron Judge and two are gone right.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Soto's now a Matt and Garrett Cole's out. And when so,
when Garrett Cole was not on the mound in that
World Series, it did not look like to even teams series.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, let's not that's a small sample size. Let's look
at them this year. They look fine. I do think
you can, you know, get some ancillary parts here in
the in the season, and you know, the deadline, and
I think the Yankees are gonna be there. I don't
know what the what's his Red Sox pick? Do you
see that?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, they're on it, They're on fire. You know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Anyways, all right, Randy Moss next story is Randy Moss.
Obviously one of the best receivers of all time. I
have him right there with Jerry Rice. But interestingly, Moss
said he doesn't think Tyreek Hill is an all time great.
When asked where Tyreek Hill ranks all time, Moss responded,
He's nowhere all time. Where is he a today's game?
Tyreek's probably top five? Colin. I, I'm not surprised with this.
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I don't hate this take for Moss. I don't think
Tyreek Hills an all time great receivers.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
No, No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
This shouldn't be controversial.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I don't think it's controversial at all. I think
I think Randy Moss is arguably, with Jerry Rice, the
greatest receiver of all time. I still think Calvin Johnson
was insane, although Larry Fitzgerald, there's a lot I think
I could name. Fifth. I grew up with Steve Largent.
He's still one of my top ten favorites of all
the time, above Tyreek Hill. But Tyreek Hill is he's electric,
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but that doesn't qualify as anything more than electric. It's
like saying, when I grew up, there was a baseball
player named Dave Kingman.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Kingman played for the back He was a home run guy.
Was he a great fielder? Was he a great No?
Dave Kingman hit home runs like Adam Dunn hit bombs.
Tyreek Hill delivers bomb. He is the over the But
in the end of the day, to be great, you
have to provide more than that. And I and I
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think there's there's times I always thought going to Miami,
I thought people overvalued his importance in Kansas City. I
remember when he left. I'm like, Kansas City's gonna do fine.
They're gonna do fine. I think he's a great player,
but I wouldn't I wouldn't have him near the top
ten all time.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
We can, and I think currently is he top five?
We'll do that later in the show because another list
came out about current receivers. Ye listen, kill we could
throw it to you in space, and he's a major problem.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Okay, so here here's a prime example of I don't
know what the list is, the top five list, but
I'll tell you a guy. I love amer On Saint Brown.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
He's he's on the list.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, now, he was a fourth round pick. But I
love first of all, smart kid route tree, willing to
block even though he's kind of small, great on third down.
So I don't know if he fills into a top five.
But you're telling me if I'm a quarterback who is
a rel a ball hands guy with great routes, I
think Puka Naku is a top five guy. I think
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Oman Oh, I think he's really good. When you when
you walk into the NFL as a rookie and you're
that productive. That's different. It doesn't happen, Colin.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I think there's two guys who if you throw it
to them in space, they're a threat to take it
the distance.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Ever, JJ and Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh, I was gonna say Moss and Tyreek Hill. I mean,
he throw a bubble screen to Tyreek Hill, he could
take that the distance.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Rank Hill deal the speed, Colin, Yeah, but Tyreek Hill
is not is not nearly as good as Jamar Taes
or Justin Jefferson. Those those two guys are considered like
next level athletes. I would say for me and those
guys are great. I'm I'm an armor on Saint Brown guy.
I think he's a really really spat Terry mclaurin's another
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guy that I think has not always played until last
year with great quarterbacks. Look how productive Terry mclaurin's been
with battle lines, inefficient coaching and average quarterback play. And
look how productive Terry mclaurin's been. If you put Terry
McLaurin with Matt Stafford when he broke in, what do
you think his numbers look like?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I should mention Garrett Wilson, but I'll save it for
the discussion later. All right, let's go to your favorite
division in football, because you're mister Chicago now and that's
the NFC North. However, Colin interesting note coming out of Detroit.
So Ben Johnson moves as the OC from Detroit to Chicago.
The new OC is starting to line up Jamiir Gibbs
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on the outside this season. Here is Jamiir Gibbs talking
about this light change. A lot of stuff is the same,
but I got learn, you know, the informations for being
split out. I'm being split out, I guess like way
more than was the past two years.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
So that's good.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That's gonna be fine.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I'm no waiting on that.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
He wants me to be, you know, more involved in it.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So that's what he plays on doing.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I wonder if they're doing that. They attacked the interior
O line in the draft. I wonder if they're doing
that because their center retired and they're feeling is the
interior OH line's going to have like rookies playing and
they're not going to be there's not going to be
as many openings and the interior runs. They're going to
move Gibbs outside because you're not going to replace that
center they lost. I think they drafted two or three
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interior linemen this draft.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But they none of them were technically centers, like pure centers.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Colin.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
This reminds me when I the last time, you know,
I had run that website for a while and then
someone bought the website and then they were like, hey,
we want to do this. What do you want to do?
And I'm like, guys, I've been running the site. We're
making money. I know what works. Our formula is crushing it.
And they were like, yeah, we want to change stuff.
So they fired me, they changed stuff, and they went
under in two years. The Detroit Lions formula in the
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last couple of years has been awesome. Okay under Ben Johnson.
If I'm the new guy, I do a lot of
what we've been doing. This idea that all of a sudden,
Jamir kids dynamic back, let's move them on the outside. Colin.
I hear this stuff and I have a little bit
of pause that the new guy's trying to put his
stamp really on the Lions, and I get a little nervous.
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I just hearing this, and again, maybe it's not a
ton of plays, but I don't love a lot of
change for this Detroit Lions offense. They're a machine the
last few years. What are you doing here?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah? I yeah, I think coaches want their own stamp
on it. I've thought about that a lot, like I
if if so, I mean Ben Johnson the last two years,
he's been literally a talking point on this show, how
great schematically? So whatever the next guy is, he's not
gonna be as profoundly gifted has Ben Johnson. He's not.
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I mean, he could be good, he could be successful.
He's not gonna be Ben Johnson like that, Like I'm
so when Kyle Shanahan left Atlanta and made Matt Ryan
the MVP, whoever replaced Kyle Shannan could be good, they
were not gonna be Kyle Shanahan who turned Matt Ryan
in the best quarterback in the league for a year.
So I just don't think they'll be as I don't
think they'll be as explosive offensively. I think I think
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there's a small percentage of coaches that literally you watch
a game, And I always felt this about Brian Floores,
a defensive coordinator with the Minnesota Vikings. I can watch
them play and I could guess, Oh, that's Brian Flores's
defense where I can see the imprint or the footprint
of a coach, a coordinator, and I think Ben Johnson
has that, and I don't think it's replaceable. First in
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the building, you have to go on a countrywide search.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
To be clear. Gibbs on the outside against the safety,
he's gonna be too fast. A linebacker, he's probably too fast,
like he's gonna be in matchup nightmare, which makes sense.
But again, I'm just I'm not in on the Lions
this year. And we had a gambler last week when
you were gone. Talk about the Detroit Lions under wind
total is getting hammered in Vegas. Just keep an eye
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on that.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
What is it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's been plummeting from like eleven and a half. I
don't know if it'll get down to ten and a half.
But this is not going to be like a fourteen
to fifteen win team.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's just no, no, it's not Jmack with a news Well,
that's the and thanks for stopping that.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
The herd line news.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
May Angelou once said, people show you who they are,
Believe them, and that's not necessarily a negative in all cases.
We'll talk about that coming up.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
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Speaker 2 (30:22):
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Speaker 1 (30:37):
Remember when the Cardinals used to be consistently great. They
don't even draw like they used to. Whatever. So it's
the SEC media Days, and I thought last year was
the first year in a long time that the at
the top of the Big Ten was better than the
top of the SEC. And I think a lot of
that is there's more money at some of those big
schools and yes, in the Big Ten, and they're paying
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for better classes outside of Texas. So I think Maya
Angelou has this quote, people show you who they are,
Believe them. And years ago when Johnny manzil everybody was
in love with Johnny manziel I went on this show
at another network and said, do not draft him. Money obsessed,
incredibly immature, kicked out of the Peyton Manning camp, do
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not draft him. He's too small, too cocky. Maybe a
good guy, but like even a family member was like, yeah,
he's out of control, and nobody listened. And all the
fanboys in Texas, A and M you don't know him.
I don't need to know him. I watched him, I
saw what mattered to him, and I think it's really
interesting arch Manning. There's a lot of speculation how good
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he's going to be. He's already shown you who he
is in the portal era where quarterbacks transfer at the
slightest discomfort. Despite being more talented the last two years,
he's quietly been a backup at Texas. Didn't say anything
team player. I think he's better than Quin Yours last
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year I did. I was never a Quen Yours guy.
Everybody loved him. When he goet drafted seventh round. I
never bought it, and he sat behind him and Shador
Sanders I said this. I was willing to give him
a chance. But you're a fifth rounder and you get
two speeding tickets in a week. You showed me who
you are. Bra I'm out. And I think the media
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often panders to young athletes and excuses bad behavior, and
maybe that's the thing to do. I won't do it
at quarterback. Now I'm gonna judge. I'm gonna judge a
hard because quarterback says much about iq EQ and leadership.
That's why I've said about Jalen Hurts, I don't love
him in the pocket, love him as a guy. I
said that with Dak. I don't like the way he throws.
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I think he's a big B minus quarterback talent. Love
the intelligence, love the leadership, love the toughness. And by
the way, I don't know how good Ark Spanning is,
but he has shown you who he is. I mean,
if a wide receiver drops the depth chart, they want
to transfer mid season, they transferred to a rival, arch
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Is like, yeah, I'm just gonna sit here and be
a good teammate and keep quiet and get better. And
he's clearly made of the right stuff. And I think
when it comes to quarterback, when I see kind of
a goofy Jamis Winston or a money obsess gay, I said,
it's about Baker Mayfield, and Baker's a lot better as
a talent in my opinion, than Jameis Winston ever was,
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or Johnny Manziel. But I said, is he ready to
go to dysfunctional Cleveland as the number one pick. No,
that's not gonna work long term, and the coach and
the GM got rid of him. Now I think in Tampa,
which is a quieter franchise, it works. He's rebooted his
career and he deserves every penny of the money. But
at the time, I was like, he's not ready for it.
It's gonna implode, and it did. They moved off him,
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he didn't move off them. So here's Sark talking about
the hype and the hope and the optimism for arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Well met or guy that he doesn't have to try
chief art.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
I think him being himself at his core is what's
going to be good, not for people to get a
sense and feel for who he.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Is, and ultimately with his teammates, you know.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
I think, you know, when you don't have to act,
but you don't have to hurt on a front of
something different than you are, it's a lot easier to do.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
And I think he's gonna be good. How good, I
don't know, but I think he's going.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
To be good.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
So this is really interesting. Robert Kraft, the owner of
the Patriots, and Bill Belichick, former legendary coach of the
Patriots do not like each other.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Like it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Oh, there was a documentary that came out and people
thought it was Craft undermining Belichick's legacy and leaking a
lot of stuff. And I watched that it was fine.
A lot of Patriot diehards thought it was a shot
at Belichick. But so Robert Kraft came out an interview
with Julian Edelman and said this about Belichick.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
For a coach who had only won a little over
forty percent of his game, to get him out front.
I don't know if there are any Jet fans here,
but I think getting Bill Belichick to come to the
Patriots in nineteen ninety nine was a big risk, and
I got hammered in the Boston media. I think he
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was with us for twenty four years and we did okay.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
By the way Belichick has responded quote, I had been
warned by previous Patriots coaches as well as members of
other NFL organizations in the media, that the Patriots job
had a lot of obstacles. So they're all protecting legacies.
And my take is Tom Brady's the reason why. If
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Brady goes to Tampa and doesn't do anything, you can
just say, well, Brady, Belichick and Craft they needed each other.
You could add Josh McDaniels to that, who failed as
a head coach twice. If Brady goes to Tampa and
it's a nothing burger, you can go out and say, hey, man,
sometimes those guys all needed each other. But when Brady
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goes to a five hundred team that was talented but
kind of dysfunctional and wins a super Bowl the first year,
now everybody goes, oh, what do they look at? They
go look at Belichick. It's like a divorce. A woman
upgrades Marris, a smart, handsome, successful guy. What do we
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all do? Now we go look at the guy? Well,
who'd you end up with? Because she upgraded? Who'd you
end up with? And that's what you do in divorces
when somebody has super success. If Brady would have done nothing,
it would have been a this is Craft and Belichick
would have been fine. I don't think they ever loved
each other. And Bill can be kind of petty and
surly whatever, and Craft can be manipulative. And you know
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he's a billionaire. You don't get there by, you know,
just playing it straight all the time. But I think
Brady's success has forced people to reevaluate Bill Belichick. So
if you look at Bill Belichick before Tom Brady, he
was forty one and fifty seven and got banged out
by Cleveland, Okay, And then if I think he was
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five and thirteen before Brady, Bledsoe was injured and Brady
got the start in New England. And then in the
one year Brady got hurt, Matt Cassel won a bunch
of games, but they didn't win playoff games, and then
Brady leaves and one year later they are regressing badly.
So again, if Brady doesn't succeed in Tampa, I wouldn't
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care about it. I'd be like, hey, it was the
perfect marriage. But when Brady crushes, it makes anytime a
divorce happens and somebody crushes, somebody upgrades, Oh look look
who he married. He's kind of a loser. And so
it's me I've said this before, is Belichick would have
been better off off staying for one year after Brady retired.
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Brady wins a Super Bowl, he Mac Jones actually made
a Pro Bowl and retiring and just saying I'm gonna
take a year off. Because if you really look at
what happened in New England that Brady Now you can
say it was a life preserver the last five years
and was getting him into playoff contention and Super Bowl
contention that had no speed. I mean the minute Brady
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left within a year, you're like, oh wow, this is
the slowest roster in the NFL. Because Belichick took over personnel.
And that's what happened to Pete Carolyn Seattle. It's what
happens when the coaches get ultimate power. And you read
the exception, he doesn't want anything to do with personnel.
These coaches now start controlling the draft, and I think
it's San Francisco right now. They've had so many bad
draft picks. I think Kyle Shanahan's got too much power.
(38:47):
So yeah, it's made me. And then you throw in
that Belichick got no offers. Atlanta interviewed him a couple times,
but he didn't get an offer. Raheem Morris got the
gig And you're like, uh uh, So once again Brady
comes out smelling like roses. But his success has forced
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us to just go back and look at Belichick and
it's not you know, and it's just interesting. So because
of his production with Brady. We consider Belichick the greatest
coach of all time and many and I am one
of these people. I think he wanted to break Don
Shules all time record. But when you talk about the
great coaches, and I've said this before, remember the CTE
lawsuit where the NFL had to write like a nine
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hundred million dollar check for not disclosing the punitive nature
of CTE. If that would have been written a decade earlier,
if the NFL would have been called out on CTE
a decade earlier, and they would have pivoted with their
rules and legislation to more of an offensive league. I
believe Belichick would have two or three fewer Super Bowls
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and Andy Reid would have two or three more. And
I think we'd look at Andy Reid the way we
look at Belichick. But Andy Reid, until about ten years ago,
eight years ago, until they started like pivoting to an
offensive league, the rules all worked against offensive coaches. Now
they all work in favor because of safely safety implementation,
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to make the game safer, to stay away from lawsuits
and injuries, especially head injuries. All Right, Hour two, Aja
prazinskis stopping by a lot to talk about today. On
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Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to
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It is a midweek Wednesday. Hey tell me this is
a slow week. It doesn't feel like it. We've got
a lot to talk about. We are live, We're in Chicago.
It's The Herd, Jmac Major League Baseball. I know on
these shows, nobody likes anybody in power. They don't like.
They don't like people in Canada. If you're the prime minister,
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everybody's devisive. Nobody likes commissioners, but Rob Manfred Baseball has
been a case study in how to pivot in a
business that's got tradition and lore and history and a
lot of purists. Last night was three and a half
hours of great television for an exhibition. It was really good?
(01:03):
Was that not fun? That was as good as all? Yeah?
I mean the Pro Bowls unwatchable, NBA All Star Games unwatchable.
I know I'm gonna sound like a Homer. But the
Fox production on that broadcast last night was magnificent, a
masterclass in TV production. Between that the ABS system, lots
of runs. Let's talk about it because major League Baseball
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a couple of years ago got over itself and decided
let's lean into entertainment. They didn't need to revolutionize. They
just kind of needed to retro fit. What the twenty
three year olds and thirty one year olds, what do
they want to watch? Home run derby ratings up last night?
I'm sure ratings will be significantly up. Miking Clayton Kershaw
(01:50):
a legend? Are Sandy Kofax? Miking him? I could have
sat and watched that for an hour. Here's a clip.
I can't believe you're doing this, Clayton.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Okay, e there, let's try to throw some cheese real quick.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
All right?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Going cheese again?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Oh yeah, that's smart. I mean you and Paul Skeens
are pretty much the same guy right down the middle.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm so glad you didn't swing.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
What do you want, smoltzy?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
What do you want?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Cut her in? Slider in?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I don't throw a cutter smelty slider, son of them?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
All right, what's the count too too, so weird.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Talking to you guys.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It's kind of hey, sit him.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Down, thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
That was fun.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That was fun.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I kind of just sat and watched that. That's fascinating,
an inside glimpse, lean into entertainment, lean into technology. Now
some of baseball's growth, it's because Aaron Judge plays for
the Yankees, no tany plays for the Dodgers, and the
Dodgers have might as well have a Nationalague All Star team,
but they're stars in Kansas City and stars in Pittsburgh,
and the sport just stop fawning over tradition and stop
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taking itself so seriously and also wearing the real jerseys
for casuals and purists alike. That last two years have
been amazing by this sport. And so the National League
jumped out to a six nothing lead. I was just
about ready to tweet NL once again better than the AL.
But they had a big six inning, a couple of
home runs for the National League, and it looked like
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Paul Stein's was going to walk out of there with
a win. But that didn't last long because the American
League roared back from a six nothing deficit because of Hello,
the Sacramento A's Brent Rooker, let's hear it, wait to
go with Pete A. Lonzo, Let's hear it for the
Sacramento A's bringing the American League back from a six
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to nothing deficit. So then as they eventually tied it,
they didn't go to extra innings because teams don't want
to have players then flying home off a fourteen inning game.
So they went to a swing off, and the great
Kyle Schwarber, who just hits bombs for all living went
three for three. And here's how it ended. They rallied
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in the game and has rallied in the swing of tricks.
Look out chop house. National League takes the lead four
to three. Unbelievable. The National League wins it in the
first swing off. Kyle Schumer wins it going three for three.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I gotta say, you know, it was pretty exciting, Like
all of a sudden, here we go in the in
the camaraderie that you you kind of build these last
couple of days with the team, I think went into
overdrive there, Like guys were i mean our side to
see how excited they were out there, and like, you know,
it's like, you know, whiffleball in the backyard. Here we go,
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let's do it again.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Didn't need to revolutionize the sport, speed it up, retro
fit it, make moments big events that felt big last night.
That's the best All Star game in any sport I've
watched in five or six years. And the last time
I saw a great All Star game it was baseballs.
But now, and you know, listen, some of it is
the stars are in Philadelphia, in LA and New York,
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the Mets and the Yankees, and and some of it's
that Chicago, but a lot of it is Rob Manfred
just saying, leaning into networks, listening to Fox and other
networks on making more moments big. The technology was great.
It doesn't hurt that Joe Davis sounds like a young
Vin Scully. It just felt magnificent. It felt big, and
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baseball has been in about a three year heater. Two
things can be true. You can respect tradition but not
be beholden to it. And that's what baseball has done
a very good job of. And last night fantastic, just
fantastic television. Beginning to end. I watched an hour and
a half of the pregame show. That's how much. I
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was into it. Okay, so I said yesterday this. You
know it's July. So any little breadcrumb of an NBA
or star rumor, it's an inferno. I don't buy Lebron
James is going to get traded. He's still really good.
It's an expiring contract. Let's see what happens to the
trade deadline. The Lakers could have even more leverage. But
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I'm looking at the betting odds today and they are
heating up that Dallas. Dallas is the favorite now to
get Lebron James. Well, if that's the case, Lebron wins again.
No state tax, upgraded coach Cooper flag reunited with Anthony Davis.
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Are you kidding me? Let's be honest about the Lakers.
I think JJ Reddick had a decent first year. I
like him. We don't know if he's ever going to
be as good as Jason Kidd. Maybe not. He got
worked in the series against Minnesota. DeAndre Ayton doesn't defend
and has an attitude and has in Phoenix and Portland.
Austin Reeves, I'm told, can't trade him seriously, not much
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of a bench, not much size so or no state tax.
Jason Kidd unbelievable size, including a D. I mean I
said this, yet you have Luca. But here's a potential lineup. Now,
for simplicity's sake, I said, if you did a trade,
let's say you give them Coop, you give them Klayt Thompson, PJ. Washington,
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Daniel Gafford two to three first round picks. This is
the Mavericks lineup, Kyrie Irving, Cooper Flag, Lebron, Anthony Davis,
and Derek Lively. Now again, they'll probably need a third
team and you'll have to give up a couple of
first round picks. But who cares. You have Cooper Flag
and Derek Lively. You've got a great wing and a
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great big on rookie deals for years. So you're telling
me this is a punishment for Lebron. I would sign
up for that today. Better coach reunited with two guys
I've played very well with and won a title with
Kyrie and Anthony Davis and the great domestic star. And
here's the thing with Lebron. Lebron is forty one years old.
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He does not want to be in the floor defending
at an elite level. He doesn't well Anthony Davis and
Lively are great rim protectors, so you don't have to
worry about that. And Cooper Flag, at least at the
college level, is an excellent defender. I don't know if
Cooper Flag is going to be a great offensive player
in the NBA. He's gonna be a really good defender. Okay,
so he may only average twenty four tops, I don't
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know he'll defend year one. So if this is the
punishment for Lebron James, sign up now for it. I
don't think it's gonna happen. Here was Anthony Slater from
The Athletic on a potential Lebron trade out of LA.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
The Lakers, you know, can go search for, you know,
a younger co star for Luka Doncics in the in
the market if they want to. Flexibility optionality has become
a popular term in the league, and that's clearly what
the Lakers they are prioritizing here. And it's understandable. Just
look at the ages.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Lebron's gonna turn forty one next year. It's unbelievable what
he's been able to do.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
But as you.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Mentioned, locking into longer term money on him, you know,
kind of handcuffed them a little bit on building around Luca.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Listen, if if Lebron won a fourth title and that
team with Anthony Davis, if you can keep Lively in
Anthony Davis as rim protectors, because you're gonna have to
get they have so much depth in Dallas in their
front line. They're huge, best center rotation in the league.
Lakers need, I mean Deondre eight and you're going to
be over him by like January fifteenth. You're going to
be over his act. So you could get some size
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from Dallas, a bunch of draft picks, and I think
that's what the new owners want. They don't want to
be tied to like gigantic, massive contract. You probably have
to give up Klay Thompson. He could come back to
Los Angeles. Michael Thompson, his dad, a very nice guy,
played for the Lakers. Send him draft picks size. But
if that's punishment, I said this. You know, sports is
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a little like the stock market. It just depends on
the day. The tariffs are going to ruin the economy.
I don't know. I looked at the stock market this week.
It's at forty four thousand plus the Dow. It just
depends on the day the moment, the reaction, investor sentiment.
When this trade got done, Luca to the Lakers, it
was the end of the Mavericks franchise. And I said,
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on this show in front of this microphone, no it's not. Now.
Dallas fell apart physically, so it looked far worse than
it was. But Laker fans got a glimpse of what
Luca is singularly, a profoundly gifted offensive player, that's what
he is. And he kind of feels like he's aging quickly.
So you know, I've always said that you can talk
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about guys all you want. When they're on your team,
you pay close attention. Everybody said Lakers are going to
win titles and Dallas is done, and I kept saying, no,
they're not. They've got a great coach, it's an attractive place.
They got Kyrie, they've got Anthony Davis and a man
center rotation. And in the NBA, guards and bigs are
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really important. Right now. You know, you're gonna have to
defend Jokic, gonna have to defend Wemby, you gotta defend Giannis.
You know you gotta have bigs. Okay, see, you won
a title, had two Bigs, Holmgren, Hartenstein. So this is
just so funny. The way sports works is everybody thought
Dallas was doomed. If this thing came to fruition, sign
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me up for Dallas minimum Western Conference finals. J Mac
doesn't want to hear it. I'm becoming a Mavericks fan.
My only question is would the GM Nico Harrison want
to make another deal. I would do that deal in
one second. I'd give you two bigs, three first round picks,
Klay Thompson, put in a third team and every I've
said this before, Austin Reeves with Lebron James, you're talking
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yourself into Wow. Put Austin Reeves in Washington and he disappears,
He disspeers. Kyle Kuzman disappeared in Washington, and he's his
talent that as Austin reads are close.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So Colin, yeah, yeah, obviously, if you're the MAVs, you
do this deal in a heartbeat. What's in it for
the Lakers?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Those picks they're gonna be garbage. There's two or three picks.
They're gonna be like twenty seven to thirty two.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Remember, you have new ownership and they want to build
it there. What did the Dodgers do when Mark Walter
came in? Give us draft picks, get our front office right.
They do not want aging players. The Lakers history is
size wins, get draft picks. And by the way, when
Lebron contract is off the books and he's out, then
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you can go big game hunting in one year. I
don't think it's gonna happen. I don't. But if that's
punishment for all the people that think Lebron's gonna get traded,
I would sign up today for that deal.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well wait a sec. If I'm the Lakers, there's no
way I'm doing the deal. But if you swap out
Gafford for Lively, Lively's younger, he does seem a little
injury prone, younger and cheaper. I want that. I don't want.
I'm sorry, I don't want the Daniel Gafford contract on
my books. By the way, the Lakers want clean books
because they think maybe Jokics could be available in a
year or two. Yanis could be available in the year
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or two. I don't know where they come to La.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
To play with Luca.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, if san Antonio starts winning, you're gonna have to
go through Wemby. So if I'm the Lakers, the reason
I think of doing this deal with Dallas is I
need a front line. DeAndre Ayton doesn't defend. We're very cool.
We may see it this year with all the way
that dominoes are falling for San Antonio, the West may
go through San Antonio, not Denver Oklahoma City if Wemby
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becomes what we think is because Wemby's already got a
couple of kids next to him that can really play.
So if it has to go through Wemby, you can't
have Jackson Hayes or DeAndre Ayton. You need multiple bigs
and multiple fouls.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
What about the Houston Rockets? Does Kevin Durant have a say?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I think they're te I love that team this year.
In the next year, your team with KD, Let's see
what transpires.
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Speaker 1 (14:43):
Welcome back. You know, for years and years I always said,
the audience drives the bus of this show. I watch
you and see what you're watching, and I follow your lead.
And if we were just talking about this as a
staff three years ago, I would not have been spending
this much time on baseball or the WNBA. I watched
the ratings they increased. I follow you. So it's just
(15:04):
very refreshing for me. In July, we don't have to
talk a ton of NFL yet because there's really good
stuff going on. And last night I watched as I
was watching the All Star Game, I was on another TV.
I was watching Caitlin Clark in the Indiana Fever. So
I've compared her to Michael Jordan, not stylistically obviously, but
in merchandise sales. Kind of a dynastic TV rating changer.
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And in year one, like you just were like Wow,
nobody plays like that. And then in year two Michael
Jordan got hurt. And then in year two for Caitlyn Clark,
she's getting banged up and hurt. Why did the Jay
always get hurt early? Because they were tackling and nobody
knew how to stop him. And the WNBA officiating is
just changed like it's it was always a physical league,
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now it's insane. So last night she gets hurt again
and she's in a shooting slump. But I think a
lot of it is she's banged up in year two
like Michael Jordan, and Michael was fighting to come back
and she's fighting to come back and she reinjured a groin.
So she's still scoring and still a team leader and assists,
but she's been banged up. And you know, by the
way her brother went to social media last night, no
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lies told Colin Clark said, make no mistake, this is
on the reffing and even Stephanie White Fever coach, has
noticed it. The officials are just letting a lot of
stuff go that almost feels inappropriate.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
I'm not exactly sure why, but it just is what
it is, and we've got to help her learn to
adjust and use it against them in certain ways. You know,
we've got to find find some ways to make it
a little bit easier for her. But the level of
physicality overall in our league has been at a different
level than it's been for a long time.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
And so she's probably hurt again and again. It has
an MJ feel rocket to the moon year two. A
lot of physicality allowed injuries. Nobody quite knows how to
defend her. You know, the Pistons are picking on the
Celtics are picking on MJ, who's dropping fifty and Caitlin
Clark now is alienating some of the players. And I
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you know, Hollywood knows how to handle stars. There's a playbook,
but I noticed this when Tiger Woods came to the
PGA tour at the first or Caitlin Clark a little turbulence.
They don't quite have a playbook on how to do it.
And I think that right now they need better officials.
Right now, WNBA officials make less, according to the Washington Post,
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than college officials do. That's a problem. They're paying as
little as one hundred and eighty dollars to WNBA officials.
I'm sorry the leagues are arrived four fifty minimum, five
fifty six, fifty seven fifties what officials should be making.
But what Caitlin Clark is is she is little a
little bit like a black light in a hotel room,
or she's illuminating all the flaws and you bring that
(17:53):
black light in and uh, oh, need another cleaning crew
in the hotel room. So first she illuminated, uh the
executive level of the w n b A and their
inability to market or kind of ce around corners. Then
she illuminated how second and third tier the w NBA
travel was. And then she sort of provided a glimpse
(18:15):
of the pettiness and the tribal nature of this this
league which is still young. And you know, also she
kind of provided a glimpse of black light on the
women's Olympic basketball movement and how silly that was and
behind the curve that was. So she's really providing glimpses
of you, you're seeing all of it in real time.
(18:37):
Is that she's saying, guys, let's get let's get better fast.
And she's almost like a stress test to a power grid.
And we've got rolling blackouts in the w n b A.
They just the league, the marketing, the players, the travel.
Now we're seeing the officiating needs to be upgraded. So
I don't want to be too punitive because the games
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are fun to watch when she involved, but she is
really kind of giving you a glimpse in real time
of how the league needs to improve. And I think
the officiating is the next step that she's going to
do to officiating what she did at travel. It's timed upgrade.
You can't have college officials making more than WNBA officials,
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and I got nothing against college officiating. Women's basketball is,
you know, by and large, more national and popular than
the WNBA has been for years until Caitlin arrived. But
the officiating's out of control. I mean, Sophie Cunningham last
night looked like hockey. They got checked into the boards.
You know, well, she's flopping. Not really, it was a
stiff arm. I don't think it was flopping. So it's
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just the latest illumination. And this is what happened when
a star shows up on tour. The marketing's got to
get better, the travels got to get better, the security's
got to get better better, the executive suites got to
get better. And you're seeing all of it here's Jmack
with the news. No, no turn on the news.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
This is the herd.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Line news, All right, Colin. After last night's All Star Game,
the thriller that went deep into the night, Yankees legends
Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter both make some pretty bold
claims about their former team. Take a listen.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
So this year, I am going with the New York Yankees,
Brian Cashman, Yankees are gonna beat the Cubs in the
World Series. Going with the Yankees because Casman basically said
he's all in, so I expect the Yankees to do
something to trade that life whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
GM.
Speaker 10 (20:32):
There's gonna be a competition of the best front office
that does the most bold moves in the trade deadline,
and I'm gonna go with the most resources Yankees and Dodgers.
All the eyes will be on Brian Cashman to make
the move to get finally get over the La.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Dodgers in October. I actually agree with that. Cubs are
pretty good, though I will say this, the Dodgers got
to get their pitching right, which I think they will.
But I also feel like, and I'm no Yankee expert,
but with Garrett Cole not here, I think the American
League is weaker. The Yankees can get to a World Series.
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But when you watch the World Series last year with
the Dodgers, everybody talks about Aaron Judge fifth inning air.
But the truth was when Garrett Cole did not pitch,
and those two games he pitched, they were as good
as the Dodgers. He was the equalizer when he wasn't
pitching in that series, the Dodgers ran the bases better,
were more athletic, had more versatility and power all through
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the line. It looked like a total mismatch, a roster
composition when Garrett Cole wasn't pitching and he's out. So
if they want to make a trade, they got to
get an arm or two at the deadline.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I like how both a Rod and Jeter referenced Ryan Kashman,
both of them, Colin, is this a nod Yankees guys
to another Yankee, Bryan, go get us what we need
to finish the job. I don't know. I read this.
The Yankees still need more pieces and they got to
make some moves here, Colin. I think they're close. I
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don't hate the Yankees pick. It's tough to go against
the Dodgers going to be at full strength, and their
three best players in the World Series last year were
Juan Soto, Garrett Colin, Aaron Judge and two are gone right.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Soto's now a Matt and Garrett Cole's out. And when so,
when Garrett Cole was not on the mound in that
World Series, it did not look like to even teams series.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, let's not that's a small sample size. Let's look
at them this year. They look fine. I do think
you can, you know, get some ancillary parts here in
the in the season, and you know, the deadline, and
I think the Yankees are gonna be there. I don't
know what the what's his Red Sox pick? Do you
see that?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, they're on it, They're on fire. You know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Anyways, all right, Randy Moss next story is Randy Moss.
Obviously one of the best receivers of all time. I
have him right there with Jerry Rice. But interestingly, Moss
said he doesn't think Tyreek Hill is an all time great.
When asked where Tyreek Hill ranks all time, Moss responded,
He's nowhere all time. Where is he a today's game?
Tyreek's probably top five? Colin. I, I'm not surprised with this.
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I don't hate this take for Moss. I don't think
Tyreek Hills an all time great receivers.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
No, No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
This shouldn't be controversial.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I don't think it's controversial at all. I think
I think Randy Moss is arguably, with Jerry Rice, the
greatest receiver of all time. I still think Calvin Johnson
was insane, although Larry Fitzgerald, there's a lot I think
I could name. Fifth. I grew up with Steve Largent.
He's still one of my top ten favorites of all
the time, above Tyreek Hill. But Tyreek Hill is he's electric,
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but that doesn't qualify as anything more than electric. It's
like saying, when I grew up, there was a baseball
player named Dave Kingman.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Kingman played for the back He was a home run guy.
Was he a great fielder? Was he a great No?
Dave Kingman hit home runs like Adam Dunn hit bombs.
Tyreek Hill delivers bomb. He is the over the But
in the end of the day, to be great, you
have to provide more than that. And I and I
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think there's there's times I always thought going to Miami,
I thought people overvalued his importance in Kansas City. I
remember when he left. I'm like, Kansas City's gonna do fine.
They're gonna do fine. I think he's a great player,
but I wouldn't I wouldn't have him near the top
ten all time.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
We can, and I think currently is he top five?
We'll do that later in the show because another list
came out about current receivers. Ye listen, kill we could
throw it to you in space, and he's a major problem.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Okay, so here here's a prime example of I don't
know what the list is, the top five list, but
I'll tell you a guy. I love amer On Saint Brown.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
He's he's on the list.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, now, he was a fourth round pick. But I
love first of all, smart kid route tree, willing to
block even though he's kind of small, great on third down.
So I don't know if he fills into a top five.
But you're telling me if I'm a quarterback who is
a rel a ball hands guy with great routes, I
think Puka Naku is a top five guy. I think
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Oman Oh, I think he's really good. When you when
you walk into the NFL as a rookie and you're
that productive. That's different. It doesn't happen, Colin.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I think there's two guys who if you throw it
to them in space, they're a threat to take it
the distance.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Ever, JJ and Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh, I was gonna say Moss and Tyreek Hill. I mean,
he throw a bubble screen to Tyreek Hill, he could
take that the distance.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Rank Hill deal the speed, Colin, Yeah, but Tyreek Hill
is not is not nearly as good as Jamar Taes
or Justin Jefferson. Those those two guys are considered like
next level athletes. I would say for me and those
guys are great. I'm I'm an armor on Saint Brown guy.
I think he's a really really spat Terry mclaurin's another
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guy that I think has not always played until last
year with great quarterbacks. Look how productive Terry mclaurin's been
with battle lines, inefficient coaching and average quarterback play. And
look how productive Terry mclaurin's been. If you put Terry
McLaurin with Matt Stafford when he broke in, what do
you think his numbers look like?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I should mention Garrett Wilson, but I'll save it for
the discussion later. All right, let's go to your favorite
division in football, because you're mister Chicago now and that's
the NFC North. However, Colin interesting note coming out of Detroit.
So Ben Johnson moves as the OC from Detroit to Chicago.
The new OC is starting to line up Jamiir Gibbs
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on the outside this season. Here is Jamiir Gibbs talking
about this light change. A lot of stuff is the same,
but I got learn, you know, the informations for being
split out. I'm being split out, I guess like way
more than was the past two years.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
So that's good.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That's gonna be fine.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I'm no waiting on that.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
He wants me to be, you know, more involved in it.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So that's what he plays on doing.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I wonder if they're doing that. They attacked the interior
O line in the draft. I wonder if they're doing
that because their center retired and they're feeling is the
interior OH line's going to have like rookies playing and
they're not going to be there's not going to be
as many openings and the interior runs. They're going to
move Gibbs outside because you're not going to replace that
center they lost. I think they drafted two or three
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interior linemen this draft.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But they none of them were technically centers, like pure centers.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Colin.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
This reminds me when I the last time, you know,
I had run that website for a while and then
someone bought the website and then they were like, hey,
we want to do this. What do you want to do?
And I'm like, guys, I've been running the site. We're
making money. I know what works. Our formula is crushing it.
And they were like, yeah, we want to change stuff.
So they fired me, they changed stuff, and they went
under in two years. The Detroit Lions formula in the
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last couple of years has been awesome. Okay under Ben Johnson.
If I'm the new guy, I do a lot of
what we've been doing. This idea that all of a sudden,
Jamir kids dynamic back, let's move them on the outside. Colin.
I hear this stuff and I have a little bit
of pause that the new guy's trying to put his
stamp really on the Lions, and I get a little nervous.
(28:03):
I just hearing this, and again, maybe it's not a
ton of plays, but I don't love a lot of
change for this Detroit Lions offense. They're a machine the
last few years. What are you doing here?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah? I yeah, I think coaches want their own stamp
on it. I've thought about that a lot, like I
if if so, I mean Ben Johnson the last two years,
he's been literally a talking point on this show, how
great schematically? So whatever the next guy is, he's not
gonna be as profoundly gifted has Ben Johnson. He's not.
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I mean, he could be good, he could be successful.
He's not gonna be Ben Johnson like that, Like I'm
so when Kyle Shanahan left Atlanta and made Matt Ryan
the MVP, whoever replaced Kyle Shannan could be good, they
were not gonna be Kyle Shanahan who turned Matt Ryan
in the best quarterback in the league for a year.
So I just don't think they'll be as I don't
think they'll be as explosive offensively. I think I think
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there's a small percentage of coaches that literally you watch
a game, And I always felt this about Brian Floores,
a defensive coordinator with the Minnesota Vikings. I can watch
them play and I could guess, Oh, that's Brian Flores's
defense where I can see the imprint or the footprint
of a coach, a coordinator, and I think Ben Johnson
has that, and I don't think it's replaceable. First in
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the building, you have to go on a countrywide search.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
To be clear. Gibbs on the outside against the safety,
he's gonna be too fast. A linebacker, he's probably too fast,
like he's gonna be in matchup nightmare, which makes sense.
But again, I'm just I'm not in on the Lions
this year. And we had a gambler last week when
you were gone. Talk about the Detroit Lions under wind
total is getting hammered in Vegas. Just keep an eye
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on that.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
What is it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's been plummeting from like eleven and a half. I
don't know if it'll get down to ten and a half.
But this is not going to be like a fourteen
to fifteen win team.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's just no, no, it's not Jmack with a news Well,
that's the and thanks for stopping that.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
The herd line news.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
May Angelou once said, people show you who they are,
Believe them, and that's not necessarily a negative in all cases.
We'll talk about that coming up.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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Speaker 2 (30:22):
Saturday, It's Baseball Night in America on Fox. The Red
Sox take on rising star Pete pro Armstrong and the
Cubs or the Cardinals battle of the Diamondbacks. Check local
listings for the game in your area. Saturday, seven Eastern
on Fox.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Remember when the Cardinals used to be consistently great. They
don't even draw like they used to. Whatever. So it's
the SEC media Days, and I thought last year was
the first year in a long time that the at
the top of the Big Ten was better than the
top of the SEC. And I think a lot of
that is there's more money at some of those big
schools and yes, in the Big Ten, and they're paying
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for better classes outside of Texas. So I think Maya
Angelou has this quote, people show you who they are,
Believe them. And years ago when Johnny manzil everybody was
in love with Johnny manziel I went on this show
at another network and said, do not draft him. Money obsessed,
incredibly immature, kicked out of the Peyton Manning camp, do
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not draft him. He's too small, too cocky. Maybe a
good guy, but like even a family member was like, yeah,
he's out of control, and nobody listened. And all the
fanboys in Texas, A and M you don't know him.
I don't need to know him. I watched him, I
saw what mattered to him, and I think it's really
interesting arch Manning. There's a lot of speculation how good
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he's going to be. He's already shown you who he
is in the portal era where quarterbacks transfer at the
slightest discomfort. Despite being more talented the last two years,
he's quietly been a backup at Texas. Didn't say anything
team player. I think he's better than Quin Yours last
(32:02):
year I did. I was never a Quen Yours guy.
Everybody loved him. When he goet drafted seventh round. I
never bought it, and he sat behind him and Shador
Sanders I said this. I was willing to give him
a chance. But you're a fifth rounder and you get
two speeding tickets in a week. You showed me who
you are. Bra I'm out. And I think the media
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often panders to young athletes and excuses bad behavior, and
maybe that's the thing to do. I won't do it
at quarterback. Now I'm gonna judge. I'm gonna judge a
hard because quarterback says much about iq EQ and leadership.
That's why I've said about Jalen Hurts, I don't love
him in the pocket, love him as a guy. I
said that with Dak. I don't like the way he throws.
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I think he's a big B minus quarterback talent. Love
the intelligence, love the leadership, love the toughness. And by
the way, I don't know how good Ark Spanning is,
but he has shown you who he is. I mean,
if a wide receiver drops the depth chart, they want
to transfer mid season, they transferred to a rival, arch
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Is like, yeah, I'm just gonna sit here and be
a good teammate and keep quiet and get better. And
he's clearly made of the right stuff. And I think
when it comes to quarterback, when I see kind of
a goofy Jamis Winston or a money obsess gay, I said,
it's about Baker Mayfield, and Baker's a lot better as
a talent in my opinion, than Jameis Winston ever was,
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or Johnny Manziel. But I said, is he ready to
go to dysfunctional Cleveland as the number one pick. No,
that's not gonna work long term, and the coach and
the GM got rid of him. Now I think in Tampa,
which is a quieter franchise, it works. He's rebooted his
career and he deserves every penny of the money. But
at the time, I was like, he's not ready for it.
It's gonna implode, and it did. They moved off him,
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he didn't move off them. So here's Sark talking about
the hype and the hope and the optimism for arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Well met or guy that he doesn't have to try
chief art.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
I think him being himself at his core is what's
going to be good, not for people to get a
sense and feel for who he.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Is, and ultimately with his teammates, you know.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
I think, you know, when you don't have to act,
but you don't have to hurt on a front of
something different than you are, it's a lot easier to do.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
And I think he's gonna be good. How good, I
don't know, but I think he's going.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
To be good.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
So this is really interesting. Robert Kraft, the owner of
the Patriots, and Bill Belichick, former legendary coach of the
Patriots do not like each other.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Like it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Oh, there was a documentary that came out and people
thought it was Craft undermining Belichick's legacy and leaking a
lot of stuff. And I watched that it was fine.
A lot of Patriot diehards thought it was a shot
at Belichick. But so Robert Kraft came out an interview
with Julian Edelman and said this about Belichick.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
For a coach who had only won a little over
forty percent of his game, to get him out front.
I don't know if there are any Jet fans here,
but I think getting Bill Belichick to come to the
Patriots in nineteen ninety nine was a big risk, and
I got hammered in the Boston media. I think he
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was with us for twenty four years and we did okay.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
By the way Belichick has responded quote, I had been
warned by previous Patriots coaches as well as members of
other NFL organizations in the media, that the Patriots job
had a lot of obstacles. So they're all protecting legacies.
And my take is Tom Brady's the reason why. If
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Brady goes to Tampa and doesn't do anything, you can
just say, well, Brady, Belichick and Craft they needed each other.
You could add Josh McDaniels to that, who failed as
a head coach twice. If Brady goes to Tampa and
it's a nothing burger, you can go out and say, hey, man,
sometimes those guys all needed each other. But when Brady
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goes to a five hundred team that was talented but
kind of dysfunctional and wins a super Bowl the first year,
now everybody goes, oh, what do they look at? They
go look at Belichick. It's like a divorce. A woman
upgrades Marris, a smart, handsome, successful guy. What do we
(36:34):
all do? Now we go look at the guy? Well,
who'd you end up with? Because she upgraded? Who'd you
end up with? And that's what you do in divorces
when somebody has super success. If Brady would have done nothing,
it would have been a this is Craft and Belichick
would have been fine. I don't think they ever loved
each other. And Bill can be kind of petty and
surly whatever, and Craft can be manipulative. And you know
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he's a billionaire. You don't get there by, you know,
just playing it straight all the time. But I think
Brady's success has forced people to reevaluate Bill Belichick. So
if you look at Bill Belichick before Tom Brady, he
was forty one and fifty seven and got banged out
by Cleveland, Okay, And then if I think he was
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five and thirteen before Brady, Bledsoe was injured and Brady
got the start in New England. And then in the
one year Brady got hurt, Matt Cassel won a bunch
of games, but they didn't win playoff games, and then
Brady leaves and one year later they are regressing badly.
So again, if Brady doesn't succeed in Tampa, I wouldn't
(37:41):
care about it. I'd be like, hey, it was the
perfect marriage. But when Brady crushes, it makes anytime a
divorce happens and somebody crushes, somebody upgrades, Oh look look
who he married. He's kind of a loser. And so
it's me I've said this before, is Belichick would have
been better off off staying for one year after Brady retired.
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Brady wins a Super Bowl, he Mac Jones actually made
a Pro Bowl and retiring and just saying I'm gonna
take a year off. Because if you really look at
what happened in New England that Brady Now you can
say it was a life preserver the last five years
and was getting him into playoff contention and Super Bowl
contention that had no speed. I mean the minute Brady
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left within a year, you're like, oh wow, this is
the slowest roster in the NFL. Because Belichick took over personnel.
And that's what happened to Pete Carolyn Seattle. It's what
happens when the coaches get ultimate power. And you read
the exception, he doesn't want anything to do with personnel.
These coaches now start controlling the draft, and I think
it's San Francisco right now. They've had so many bad
draft picks. I think Kyle Shanahan's got too much power.
(38:47):
So yeah, it's made me. And then you throw in
that Belichick got no offers. Atlanta interviewed him a couple times,
but he didn't get an offer. Raheem Morris got the
gig And you're like, uh uh, So once again Brady
comes out smelling like roses. But his success has forced
(39:08):
us to just go back and look at Belichick and
it's not you know, and it's just interesting. So because
of his production with Brady. We consider Belichick the greatest
coach of all time and many and I am one
of these people. I think he wanted to break Don
Shules all time record. But when you talk about the
great coaches, and I've said this before, remember the CTE
lawsuit where the NFL had to write like a nine
(39:30):
hundred million dollar check for not disclosing the punitive nature
of CTE. If that would have been written a decade earlier,
if the NFL would have been called out on CTE
a decade earlier, and they would have pivoted with their
rules and legislation to more of an offensive league. I
believe Belichick would have two or three fewer Super Bowls
(39:51):
and Andy Reid would have two or three more. And
I think we'd look at Andy Reid the way we
look at Belichick. But Andy Reid, until about ten years ago,
eight years ago, until they started like pivoting to an
offensive league, the rules all worked against offensive coaches. Now
they all work in favor because of safely safety implementation,
(40:11):
to make the game safer, to stay away from lawsuits
and injuries, especially head injuries. All Right, Hour two, Aja
prazinskis stopping by a lot to talk about today. On
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