April 16, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin gives high praise to basketball star Caitlin Clark labeling her appointment television in today's society where attention spans are short
QB J.J. McCarthy seems to be moving up the NFL draft
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, here we go. It is a Tuesday. We are
live in Los Angeles. NBA playoffs start tonight. It's The Herd.
Wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. I have
got some thoughts on JJ McCarthy. I finally figured out
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JJ McCarthy the Dream Team would clobber the men's basketball
Olympic team that's going to Paris. I'll get into that.
Caitlin Clark, she sold out WNBA jerseys in one hour
on fanatics. I thought they had anendless supply. She sold
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them out in an hour. They got a thousand people
to the draft last night. Those tickets sold out in
fifteen minutes. Wow. So I mean it's amazing. You never
know where stars are gonna come from, Like in Los Angeles.
I think it was in the eighties, Fernando Mania.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Oh that's right, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Who would have guessed that? And I want to start
with that is that Caitlin Clark got me to a
TV last night. I'd never watched the WNBA Draft, and
I watched the first forty five minutes of the WNBA Draft.
You know you have pull. You have it when you
get me to a television set and I know what's
gonna happen. I always said Titanic's a great movie. I
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watched it three times. I knew the boat sank, I
knew the ending, I knew what happened. You read the books.
It still got me to a movie theater. That's power.
You never know where the stars come from. The highest
compliment you can pay anybody in this frenetic, distracted world entertainment, iPhones,
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tech talk everywhere, the greatest compliment you can get somebody
me last night to sit down in front of a
TV and watch something I don't normally watch. When I
knew the outcome, I knew how it was going to end.
Caitlin Clark goes number one, and I recognized many of
the top ten twelve picks. I'm not going to recognize
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many of the top twelve NBA draft picks. The NBA
draft has become like the Oscars, a lot of stuff
that won't get me to a theater. I'll take your
word for it. Those foreign films are great. I don't
know exactly why Caitlin Clark is this popular. I mean,
she's great, there's so many great athletes, she's non controversial.
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She plays women's college basketball. But I think a lot
of it is in a world where all these sports
leagues are trying to siphon more money out of you.
I mean, you watch the Yankees. They're on six different
streaming services. This channel, that channel, this channel, Where's baseball?
Where's the MLS? March Madness, Iowa Hawkeyes, little flashy, likable
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player has really good range. She gives me what I know.
I've said this about the NFL. It's the only league.
I say, when do you watch the NFL? You not
only give me the day Sunday, but you give me
the times you watch it. Mission impossible, Tom Cruise, They're
on their eighth Mission impossible. Taylor Swift, Caitlin Clark, March
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Madness numbers, NFL numbers up all mostly domestic, all things
we've watched for years. The crazier the world gets, the
more global it gets, and I think the NBA has
got more great players than ever. Globalization. Caitlan Clark is
what you know, Iowa, little underdog, mar Madness, broadcast television
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mostly or cable. It's just fascinating to watch the things
that get me to a TV in a theater. I
know it's getting bigger out there, and the streaming services
and I got to have this plus and that plus
and that streaming and I find myself seeking simple, seeking, dependable, seeking, traditional.
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And I'm watching last night and I'm like, oh, I
know that player, I know that player, I know that program.
I watched that program comfort Food. That was like comfort
television last night. I'm busy, I'm distracted. I don't want
to pay for another cable channel. I don't want to
pay for another streaming service. March Madness ratings up, NFL
ratings up. I mean, I'm trying to explain the unexplainable. Well,
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she's a really good player. Her ratings were bigger than
everything except the NFL. Iowa Women's basketball dependable, traditional, non confrontational, fun,
easy to consume, likable, and I've seen it before. The
Big ten and March Madness got me to a television
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set last night. Here's Caitlin Clark after.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
When you're kind of just sitting at a table waiting
for your name to be called, I think that really
allows the emotions to feed you, and you're with your family,
like obviously playing a basketball game, I'm not out there
with my family. So sharing that moment with them and
enjoying it and people that have really had my back
and believed in me more than anyone is super special.
You know, I'm twenty two years old and I don't
have all the answers in the world. This is something
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new to me. This is a new challenge, and that's
something I'm excited for.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So I always try to find out and there's no
You're always looking for a common thread in the NFL.
How do you know what quarterback's going to hit? And
so there was a story this morning that JJ McCarthy,
the Michigan quarterback that scouts many agree that he is
not a first round pick, but yet he may go
in the top ten. I told her the first time
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I watched him, I thought, Hammenegger is okay, it's Hardbott's Michigan,
the old line of the run, game, of the defense.
I don't get it. And so there's a lot of
different opinions right now on him, and so we're always
trying to figure out, and so are NFL teams. What's
the common thread? How do we predict to a higher
level who's going to make it, who's not going to
So I went to the last ten drafts, and there
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are twelve we can argue, but twelve quarterback hits in
the last ten draft c J. Stroud and Mahomes, Josh Allen,
Herbert Burrough, Lamar Jalen, Jordan Love, Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence,
Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, franchise guys, franchise guys. The school
clearly doesn't matter because Josh Allen went to Wyoming, Jared
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Goff went to cal Jordan Love went to Utah State.
I mean, Lamar Jackson went to Louisville. That's an okay program.
So the school doesn't matter. Size is mostly overrated. Kyler
Murray small, Josh Allen's a giant. You'd rather be bigger
than smaller. But Lamar Jackson came in really spindily, and
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Josh Allen didn't, and Patrick Mahomes the greatest maybe ever
is average size six to two. The franchise history can matter,
but it doesn't matter that much. Trevor Lawrence got the
Jags of the playoffs. Kyler Murray did the same to
Arizona in the division with Pete Carroll, Kyle Shanahan and
Sean McVay, and Joe Burrow got the Bengals to a
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Super Bowl. So what over the last ten drafts, of
the twelve quarterback hits, now, hit can be Mahomes, it
can be Goff, A hit can be Josh Allen, it
can be Kyler. But they're hits. They're franchise guys. The
only criteria that I have found that I can depend on,
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it's one of two things that gives you a higher
probability to be a franchise guy, a high end franchise guy.
Number One, you either in college elevated an average or
a weaker roster Lamar Jackson, Goff, Dak Josh Allen, Mahomes,
Jordan Love, Justin Herbert had Pinasue at left tackle, but
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no other great NFL player on offense. So seven eight
of the guys elevated at the college level, they took
a college roster that was okay and they elevated it
to a Rose Bowl, a Big Bowl. Or the second
criteria that becomes an NFL hit in the last decade,
that you're on a stacked team, but you're insane productive.
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Jalen Hurts at Oklahoma fifty two total touchdowns is last year.
Joe Burrows last year at LSU sixty five touchdowns, Kyler
Murray Oklahoma fifty three hundred yards fifty four touchdowns. So
you're either one of two. You elevate an average college
roster or a weak one, or on a stacked roster
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you're superman. JJ McCarthy's neither. You had average stats on
a stacked roster, he's neither. That's my issue. If you
go to the last decade, we get about one point
three quarterbacks per draft that hit. We have six four
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for sure, maybe six first round quarterbacks. You gotta either
show me in college that you took a Wyoming, a
Texas Tech, a Mississippi State, an Oregon roster and took
it to a different level a Rose Bowl, a big game,
you took it to a different level, or you're on
one of these. Traditionally stacked rosters at Oklahoma, Texas, Abama, Georgia, Michigan.
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But you put up crazy numbers, you jump through the
television set with JJ McCarthy, not the first one and
not the second one. He had twenty four twenty five
total touchdowns last year on a team that blew out
a lot of people. He had one three hundred yard game.
So when I pushed back on JJ McCarthy, I've been
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trying to figure out what is it. I mean, he's
six y threes tall enough, he won a bunch of games,
but he didn't elevate a team that had average players,
and he didn't put up riproaring, crazy productive numbers like
all the other guys that are hits in the NFL.
So his Michigan experience is not an NFL experience where
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you will go to a crappy team in the top
ten and have to elevate an average roster, or maybe
you go to a stack roster on a great team
in the NFL, but that's very rare. Most of those
great teams already have great quarterbacks. So there's my answer.
There's my answer on JJ McCarthy. Jason much higher on
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him than I am. That's Okay, I'm a little higher
on bow knicks than everybody else. That's okay. But I
think our biggest argument because you love all these new
young NBA players, and although I do think the league
is never been more talented. The team USA has finalized
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the roster for Paris.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Who stop it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Thank god Lebron Stephen Kd showed up. Otherwise, what an
indictment of AAU basketball.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Woo you're coming in hot on a dude, thinker, how
many beverages did you have last night?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Now half of one beer? You are fired out to
the WNBA draws.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I'll say this, the JJ McCarthy take was a good
one that made me think I did not just.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Like we saw him.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
We watched him game manager, if you will, right did
which was asked of him, didn't make a lot of mistakes,
very Alabama. Like I feel bad for pushing him as
a top ten guy in like November.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Well, he may still end up there.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
He's great value at like twenty two. Great value. Imagine
plug him into the.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Miami offense or or or the Minnesota offense and later
in the first round.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, but how about start for New England game one?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh stop, come on, start for the Giants.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Come on, that's what everybody tells me that. I mean,
I went back, I went back to ten drafts and
I found the twelve hips. And you may not like
Kyler Murray, but if you can take Arizona and that
circus of the playoffs in that division, you're a hit.
So Dak Prescott, I may be critical, he won twelve
games a year. Dak is a hit.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I think was it your buddy Schrager that had the
Giants trading up for J. J.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
McCarthy or something like that in his mock draft. Somebody
texted me something about trading.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Up for him. Yeah, all right, I've got a lot
of stuff today. I'll just I gotta have my say
on the Paris Olympics.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
We're gonna need an hour for that topic of load.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Okay, it's gonna get heated because it's it's not a
discussion the Dream Team would get.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Are you talking about the competition for the ninety two Dream.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Team and go, I'm talking about this team USA. If
you took Lebron Stephan durantofa.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Why would you do that? Why would you take.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Three off three of the top I don't know, fifteen
players in the history of the sport, why would you
take them off the team?
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Speaker 1 (13:25):
I like new stuff. Jmack likes new stuff. I am
a fan of trying to find the next cool thing.
Not a big rearview mirror guy, marble windshield guy. That's fine,
but not everything that's new is better. And we tend
to over romanticize what life used to be. But boxing
did used to be better a college basketball when a
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Tim Duncan would stay in school of Patrick Ewing for
three or four years, men's college basketball was absolutely better.
And so was our domestic product in the NBA. Our
domestic stuff who went to high school and then college.
Now it's au nonsense. So they announced the Team USA
final roster. I think they have one more player to add.
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Take Lebron James and Steph Curry off this roster. Yikes.
Bama to Bayou has once in his career averaged over
twenty a game on the Dream Team, David Robinson averaged
over twenty three without the benefit of a three point
shot seven times. Look at the dream team. Let's make
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a comp here, Magic, MJ, Byrd Malone, Stockton, Drexler, Ewing, Barkley, Robinson.
That team was so good. Reggie Miller didn't make it.
Isaiah Thomas didn't make it. Dominiquld average twenty eight and
a half the same year didn't make it. I got
I can do it all. Charles Barkley, score down, low
perimeter transition, you get score only, Devin Booker, get the
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greatest shooting guard ever. MJ. You get twenty two year
old Aunt Robinson. I get two titles. David Robinson you
get never made it past the second round, Joe Lmbid,
I get killer instinct, Magic, and MJ. You get. Hey,
you take the shot this time, Jason Tatum. This is
an indictment of what's happening to our basketball culture. AAU,
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no hard high school coaching, maybe a G league, leave
to make money, don't play in college basketball. Take out
Stephen Lebron that era and it's ending. Think I'm wrong?
Go back. I get the greatest point guard ever and
the greatest leader. MJ. You get Tyrese Haliburton a good player,
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But go back the basketball culture in America is a mess.
The AAU culture are domestic stars. The best players in
this league are all international number one draft pick, probably
a front shooting guard coming up. Probably. I went back
to the Tokyo Olympics twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics. Look at
the team USA basketball roster, No Lebron, no Steph javal McGhee,
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Chris Middleton, Zach Levine, Kelden Johnson, Jeremy Grant. Nothing against
those guys, but you take out the old school stars
in the NBA right now, all throwing KD, Steph Lebron,
Look at our team. That's what AAU Basketball's created. Not
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getting hard coaching in high school, not getting dependable coaching
in high school, not going to college anymore. First great
coaching you get is off in your second or third
coach in the NBA, because all those top players go
to bad teams that cycle through coaches. So I know
everybody loves everybody loves the new stuff, and I mostly do.
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But that dream team would take this team apart. At
the seams all players in their prime. This team is
old Lebron or twenty two year olds. That team was
twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, in their prime, championship players,
best in the world ever at their position, wildly competitive.
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Didn't grow up with AAU basketball. We have played sixteen
games a weekend and it's not really about winning games.
Those guys. You turn the lights off, You put a
dream team guy in a room with the current guy here.
Who's coming out? One guy comes out, one guy survives
the AAU guy or MJ or Magic or Berkley or
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Malone or Stockton. I'm sorry, but I look at that.
That is an indictment on what American basketball cultures become.
Thank God for Stephan Lebron. Take him off that team.
It's twenty two year olds. It's a bunch of kids.
By the way, last five or six MVPs gonna be
another one this year. Who are the MVP candidates this year?
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Luca Jokich SGA last year, mbid yea honest y'allo trend,
y'allo trend going on. Lebron will be forty this summer.
That's our team, USA Savior. Can you imagine if the
NFL didn't have college football as a feeding system, had
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some sort of AU football thing, and Tom Brady, not Mahomes,
not Alan Lott, Tom Brady at forty four was our
savior if we had Olympic football. I'm just saying, maybe
I'm being old guy at the hardware store yelling I'll
take that dream team twenty seven eight, twenty nine year
old competitive guys in their prime. Their practices have made documentaries.
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They do documentaries on like the Dream Team and how
hard the practices were. J Mack with the News. No, no,
this is the head.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
No, no, this is one of those mornings, right.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I was actually talking to the folks downstairs, and I
was like, Oh, would it be great to just like
not have to work some days and just like just
chill out, you have fun. But then you come in
with this nonsense Taken. I'm just so excited to be
talking about sports all day. Yeah, it's so fun.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
That dream team. That dream team was something else.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I'm gonna pace myself. I'm not gonna touch it here.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
In fact, Dominique and Isaiah they're like not good enough,
by the way, Shack, Well, no.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
No, Isaiah wasn't not good enough. Michael Jordan refused to
let him on the team.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And I love that's no, because that's how competitive those
guys were.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Because Isaiah iced him out before at the All Star
break like eight years earlier.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I mean it was nonsense, but don't get me. This
is a good topic. This is a really spicy topic.
Unfortunately you're on the wrong side this whole.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
The David Robinson everage more points, Colin.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It was a back to the basket era. They fed
him the ball, pounded it down, little baby.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Hooks when he faced other back to the basket, physical bigs,
and everybody had a forearm.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I love David, I love the Admiral, I love Patrick,
I love all those guys.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Bam Ada Bio pickon role to death by Steph Curry
and these guys.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Okay, David Robinson could not guard on the perimeter.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You see how Rudy Gobert plays the drop defense and
Jalen Brunt him eats him up in the mid range.
Except against Curry and all the Halibert it'd be threes
because Robinson would get annihilated in the pick and roll.
Bamana Bayo can guard anybody on the court. Anybody put
him on Jordan and lock him up.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
The league where team score one twenty four, He's averaged
twenty points a game one time.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Because it's an offensive wing three in d League and
he's just a rim running center who's awesome at defense.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Oh jeez, cowhard, Let's let's just go to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh okay.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
According to Adam Jeffer, listen, things are getting sideways in
Dallas pretty fast. Ceedee Lamb is not expected to attend
their off season volunteer Voluntary workout program. Lamb, who's been
a regular attendee in the past, is entering the final
year of his rookie deal. So you start compounding that
with Micaeh Parsons not in attendance.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
That story got leaked.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Yeah, you've got McCarthy coach Dak we've been waiting for
the extension, waiting for it doesn't sound like it's happening.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
There's a lot happening in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I may have been a little too light on them,
and you've been kind of hard saying it's all crumbling.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It's been an incredibly loud off season. A story gets
leaked to make Mica Parsons look bad. Who leaked that?
Somebody inside the Cowboys, Ceedee Lamb, I'm out. Remember what
the reaction was when they lost to Green Bay and
you had cousins and friends of star players ripping DAK.
Cowboys aren't paying DAK. This is they are becoming the
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Jets last year, Oh, the noisiest off season team. It's
not good news.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Okay, So last season Zach Martin held out a training
camp and was able to sign a guy a contract,
got his deal. So maybe this is some postra. Maybe
this is Jerry Jones and his guy saying, Yo, we
got smacked by the Packers. That's unacceptable. Nobody's getting paid now.
The coach down, the quarterback on.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
CD, nobody hold firm.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Guys, talk about it, work on it, and we'll pay
you later.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But we're not just going to cough up the money early.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Maybe Jerry's a little ticked off, still salty that they
got waxed at home by the Packers.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I don't hate this. I just I wonder if.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
You start looking at Dallas Cowboy unders this season or
is it too Is that too much of an overreaction.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I don't think it's an overreaction. I think noise equals
losses in the NFL, maybe not in other leagues. We've
got who got really noisy last year? Was Arizona got
really noisy? They had made the playoffs with Kyler, and
they got really really noisy disaster. Green Bays last year
with Aaron super noisy, didn't make the playoffs. Jets last
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year super noisy. By the way, New England when Brady left,
became a noisier franchise that Matt Patricia mac jones stuffed leaking,
people dogging Belichick, all the leaks that never came out
of New England. Noise equals losses.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Buffalo Bill's noisy. They've been very noisy.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
By the way, the Chiefs had an ugly situation with
Rashid Rice. Not noisy. Happened. Unfortunate go to camp unfortunate,
I mean unfortunately, Yeah, I mean, but again, put it mildly.
Nobody's asking for a perfect roster. Nobody's asking for perfection.
But when you have issues, you close camp, you close ranks,
you take care of it. It stays quiet. There's not
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a lot of leaks. Everybody faces nonsense in this league.
These are kids. These are twenty four year old NFL
players with a lot of money, a lot of freedom
and time. They're gonna make mistakes. Human beings. Got to
keep it quiet.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Let's get to the Niners.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
They made the Super Bowl took the l but the
offseason has been kind of good for them. But in
an appearance at the Masters, George Kittle was asked about
the Niners offensive continuity, how can it help them to
be even better in twenty twenty four, and he said,
we were fortunate enough to keep our entire offense so far.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Clearly, so far is related to Brandon Ayuk's contract situation.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You and I both agree, and we both love Brandon Ayuk,
but there is a time and a place for everything,
and with Debo and McCaffrey and Kittle, I think it's
time to move off Ayuk and I love him and
get a first or two seconds or a first round pick.
I think, I think he's a great player, But I
do think in that offense, which is really about Shanahan's brain,
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Christian McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel's versatility and on third down, Kittle,
I don't think you can justify Brandon Ayuk because he's
just not as valuable or going to get the touches
that Justin Jefferson would get. In Minnesota, there are some
receivers that they're the centerpiece of the team. And as
good as Ayuk is Deebo and McCaffrey can hog up
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a lot of the To be honest, if you ask,
if you ask Kyle Shanahan the perfect game, McCaffrey would
have twenty two carries, Kittle would have six catches, Debo
would have four carries. I think he's a great and
infrequently a great player will be expendable. And I think
Ayuk is that.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
So we're I think we have an edge in talking
about stuff like this is we have been business owners.
When I was with the Big Lead, you know, I
saw this hotshot guy online. He's funny, he's witty, good writer.
Let's bring him on board. Within like six months, you
realize it's not a good thing. He doesn't really want
to grind. Yeah, we just got to move off. Let's
scrap it and move on.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I see this.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Brandon Ayuk situation, and you could see it coming a
mile away. Yeah, the chirpiness, the off Yeah, and I
get it. That's how the games played. But you know
what I would just I would cut bait. I would
move on and then just get the ball, rolling walls
with a draft pick or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
When you have a seventh round quarterback who's not getting paid,
it sort of empowers the receiver if you had a
star quarterback. Receivers generally Brady never had problems, Peyton never
had problems. Lamar doesn't have problems. I mean you notice
very quick Mahomes doesn't have When the quarterback's a star,
everybody gets in line. When the quarterbacks brought perty, it
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empowers players to think, I'm more about By the way,
in New York, a lot of Chirpin' players don't respect
Daniel Jones. It's nothing against Perdy, but when he's a
seventh round pick, he's not making any money, and the
sense in the room is it's about Kyle and us.
It makes it more difficult. I think it just gets
in the way of pretty I'd move him get picks.
This is a stacked roster. They have the means and
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the expertise in the room to move off him. And
it's a receiver rich draft again. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
The final story is the Warriors and Kings are the
late game tonight in a play in matchup with the
loser season being over.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
They have a great history.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
This regular season, they played three games decided by one
point each time, and last year they had the heated
seven game playoff series where your buddy Draymond Green stomped
sabonus while he was on the ground.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Here's Raymond Green on the matchup with the Kings.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
As always a playoff type game, like you feel that
you go into into their arena, their fans want to
light the beam and see us lose and beat the
crap out of us, and they come and hear we
want to beat the crap out of them. A lot
of familiarity amongst the two organizations, even beyond just us
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going out or playing in the money games that we've
played against each other over the past couple of years.
But you know, for us, it's another game you got
to that we have to go win. It's not just
another game, and assays Lego, it's just any other game.
It's another game that we have to go win and
we gotta go get it done.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So in half an hour, I'll give you my five
bold NBA playoff predictions. We went four for five last year,
five bold predictions. I have one of them on this so.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
It's a tough one.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
No lines leaked out now Kings are two point underdogs
at home again. No Malik Monk, no red velvet. The
bench is short for me, it'd be Warriors to pass.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
I'm not gonna bet him here, but I just you know,
I love Fox and sabonus like the bean.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Blah blah blah. This is a tough one for me,
short bench. Curry's rested.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't see it for the kids, you.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
May not be wrong. Warriors have to win. They gotta
win twice. Yeah, so even if they.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Win the night, they still have to beat the Pels
or the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Okay, don't like that we're paying attention to this one.
This one's going to be intense. All the stars play
major minutes. Then you got to play the Lakers, who
you just dogged. Are the Pelicans? Weird matchup? Uphill battle Warriors,
uphill battle. Jmack with the News.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd lot.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So you were looking you said you were looking for
a day off today.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
No, no, I just I have a buddy who how
do I put this politely? He is his own boss
all the time, and you know he's like, day, Jay,
do you want to go for a run this morning?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
And I was like, I gotta go to work. You know,
does he nice?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Morning.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Does he get free smoothies at his work? Because I
got a free smoothie.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I don't think money's an object to him. But anyway,
I like the spirited back and forth. We have fun.
Yere you and I.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, the banter. I'm just saying I tend to be
with a dream team. I tend to be new stuff
is better. But I've been on this thing now for
two or three years. AU basketball Steve acknowledges it. It's
not helping our domestic product.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I don't disagree with that. I don't think anyone does.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
And if you take out, you know, guys that played
on high school basketball teams, like Steph Curry and Lebron James,
you take the out the old school guys. This is
a this this parish team is an AAU team.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
That's fine. But Kevin Durant, Lebron and Curry are on
the team.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, but I'm saying take the old guys off. I mean,
Lebron certainly doesn't have to play. He's been talked into playing.
He wants to pill sell shoes. I get why guys
go to the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
By the way, do you know that the Canadian basketball
team has more NBA guys that were in the entire
ninety two Olympics outside of Team USA. That's how stacked
the world is now. We can thank the ninety two
Dream Team for that, but go look at the Canada roster.
Eight NBA players on the team. Yeah, I mean the
world is way better at basketball.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Go look at their player efficiency in the NBA, and.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
We're way worse. Well, it's it's convergence of things.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
The league is better, way better.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
More America.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
The younger American basketball players are taking longer to pop.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's not a great thing.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
But listen capitalism, right, you have kids who play youth
sports when you can rent a gym and have games
going around round the clock and make a lot of money.
Why would you run a practice when you could play
six games in a day.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Oh, practice, practice doesn't mean anything. It does you know
what it does in Lithuania, in Serbia. Yeah, by the way,
that's those players come over here. They've been skilled, not
just playing games with their buddies.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I don't disagree with any You make a.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Lot of money with a you tony tracksuit makes a
lot of money. Never get like real grown up coaching
high school or college.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
You're you're in the league, but what is the solution? Colin,
Let's hear the solution. We know the problem.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Fix it. Oh, I've got a lot of those. I
don't have enough time.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
At home, they call me mister Solution.
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Speaker 1 (31:27):
All right, welcome back one of my favorite guys. We
get them about once a year. The seventy six ers
have made the playoffs in all four seasons. Darryl Moury
has been their president basketball. Op's one of the smartest
guys in the sport. So I am a fan of
the Plan Tournament, and I do think a lot of
it has to do with the iPhone and the TikTok
and the distractions. We are a distracted society. There's more noise,
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there's more there's more platforms, and so people to get
them do a TV It's Sundays, it's madness, it's Caitlin Clark,
it is predictable, it's Barbie. It's mission impossible to get
people to theaters and games. And I've never been a
fan of seven game first round NBA Playoffs, but I
(32:12):
like the plan the Urgents I'll be watching tonight. Are
you a fan of it or does it? Can it
punish veteran teams who maybe had an injury and kind
of snuck in, but you know they're better.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
So from a fan perspective, you're preaching the choir. I
think one and done, And I think I even got
in trouble by saying I would be one and done
in the NBA playoffs, because to your point, people tune
in based on how important the game is and how
uncertain the outcome is, and one and done, you're you know,
the quality of the product doesn't even have to be
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doesn't have to be very good, Like if people know
that it's win or go home, it's a big thing.
I would do it more. I would have the first
two seeds get a bye. I'd have the next two
get traditional home court. I'd shorten the see and then
i'd have everyone play in for four to six. I
wouldn't even have eight make the playoffs. I'd make the
regular season worth more. Then the regular season's worth more.
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The top seeds that do it get a bye, and
there's a huge play in to be the five or
six to play in the first round. I think that
would be massive ratings. I love it now. Right now,
as an executive, I hate it right I really, I
really wish we were just playing and playing the two
seed and didn't have to play in. But for the league,
I think it's a tremendous thing.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
So I think the Sixers match up very well with
the Knicks, and I would take you in that series.
I don't know if you can beat Miami. The coach,
the style. You know, you're an interesting team, you're a
good team. Embiid makes you potentially great. He leaves you struggle,
he comes back. You go on a heater. I always
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say late season NBA winning streaks, be careful. Some of
the bad teams they don't mind losing. Some of the
good teams are resting stars. What do you make of
your winning streak at the end of the year, What
do you make of it? Should I buy into it?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:07):
I think so. I mean I think, Look, we did
have a couple of games in there that you would
call like late late season teams not trying to win.
But we also had quite a few good wins in there,
Orlando being one. We beat Miami in this streak in Miami,
so I look to us, it's really not about the
eight game winning streak. It's how we're playing. And Joelle
(34:29):
has come back strong. We did hold them out precautionary
here in the last game so that he could go
into the playoffs, you know, as fresh as he's ever been.
And yeah, we we like how we're playing. We've got
a couple injuries that you know, just like almost every
team going in. I know the Heat have some injuries. Look,
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the heater are tough out. We know that, we know
that for a fact. But look, I mean, this is
why we're here, this is why we play. Our guys
are ready and and I really think besides Joell, this
will be you know, Maxi's coming out party for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
You have always been a mile ahead of people on analytics.
You tend to see around corners better than most. I
have been critical. I think Adam Silver is excellent, but
I do think he sort of marginalized college basketball. And
I think there's value in good coaching and Tom Izzo
and coach k and Jay Wright, and I like college
basketball at Microwave Stars. Only reason I know who Zion
(35:27):
is is Duke and I think sometimes I'll watch a
Jalen Green and I think, God the first two years
he's finally getting coaching and he's a remarkable talent. So
international players come in, they play against older players, the
games mean more when they come up. It does appear
international stars and international basketball has taken sort of a
(35:47):
lead role in the development of players the MVP. Is
that a fair criticism by me? Are there things about
the domestic culture that bother you in basketball?
Speaker 8 (35:59):
I mean, we're still the number one, number one team
in the world. Our team will be the favorite in
the Olympics coming out. We'd be the favorite in any tournament.
But I love how the international game has caught up,
and it makes sense that some of the elite players
are coming from international There's just more. There's just more players.
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I mean, I wouldn't be shocked that there will be
a top player from India and not too long. They
now are the most populous county country on Earth. So
I think it makes sense that you're getting this variance
and getting these elite players. But I do think the
American game is overly criticized. We're still developing the best
players in the world. I think you can nitpick some things,
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but I'm still very pro us basketball.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Do you feel your organization because of a lack of
ability to win a second playoff series? Do you, guys
feel some heat? Do you feel personally some heat that
you've got to start stacking some playoff wins. We know
you're good. We know MBA's MVP, we know all that stuff.
We know MAXI can play, we know the has length
in stars. But people are saying we want more w's
in the playoffs. Do you sense that pressure?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (37:08):
No, the I think the heat I don't think is
the right word. Whatever. You're good at this. The uh,
the hyperbole, Colin, that's your business. But I would say, look,
this is the whole reason I'm here. Elton Brand's here,
Nick's here, Joel's here. Uh, this is a look. Every
year is critical and the whole point where here is
to win the championship. We have a little bit of
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harder road, mostly because of injury this year, but it's
set up there for us to do it, and the
job is to do it. So Yeah, the heat is
very high, as it should be.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, by the way, Joel Embiid, you've dealt with stars
in this league. What is it like having Joel Embiid
as your star? What is he like as a personality?
Speaker 8 (37:49):
Wonderful, super super intelligent, like the thinks the game. That's
one thing I've had pretty consistent with the stars I've
worked with. I don't think it's an accident. They're not
only elite physical talents, but they're also elite basketball IQ
and work ethic. Joel adding stuff to his game every year,
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even at age thirty now coming up or maybe just turned,
I think is pretty remarkable. You know, I would say
just I've worked with a bunch of amazing players, but
at his peak, I just don't see anyone who's had
the two way impact of Joel that I've worked with.
So I've been blessed work with him. He's a joy
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with coach Nurse. He he loves the strategy. He loves
sitting with coach Nurse and talking how to beat teams.
He yeah, he's a joy all right.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Tonight the Warriors Kings. Tomorrow it's Heat at the seventy
six ers, and that is I think both those teams
match up very well with the Knicks. Cannot wait to
see how you know what being home matters for that game?
That helps it much, no question.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:58):
So we played the Heat early in this eight game
win Street going in, and we pretty much knew we
had to win it to avoid the plan that didn't work.
But we absolutely knew we had to win it to
avoid going to Miami.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Look a lot of.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
Respect to Spostra and Jimmy Butler and Bam and all
their great players. I mean, this is not a team
that we're gonna have to go out there and win
the game. Like they're not going to beat themselves and
they're yeah, it's it's a tough road, but hey, this
is what the playoffs are for. If we can't beat
the Heat, we're probably not going to win the title.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Darryl Mory seventy six ers will be watching great to
see you. Thanks for making time for us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
Yeah, thanks, Cal appreciate it having me on.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
You bought Darryl Moury. So they're in a little bit
of a heater. The Sixers, by the way, are thirty
one and eight this year, thirty one and eight when
in b plays, So I think they'll beat Miami. I
think they match up very well against the Knicks. The
Knicks have been a fun story, but in the playoffs, boy,
they're Jalen Brunson reliant, aren't they.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah, I'm taking the Knicks in that. You should have asked, Maury,
what do they do if they lose to the Knicks.
Does Joel Embiid ask out of Philadelphia in April?
Speaker 6 (40:04):
Or may?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I like the Knicks in that year.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I'm taking them over the Sixers.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Assuming the Sixers beat the heat we don't even know
if that's a lock. I think they will.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, but they're thirty one and eight when MBI plays,
and he's rested.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
And beats had some massive playoff failures, massive.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Colossal, massive, lost a couple of big games. Nick writes
around the corner my bold playoff predictions. Next
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, here we go. It is a Tuesday. We are
live in Los Angeles. NBA playoffs start tonight. It's The Herd.
Wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. I have
got some thoughts on JJ McCarthy. I finally figured out
(00:46):
JJ McCarthy the Dream Team would clobber the men's basketball
Olympic team that's going to Paris. I'll get into that.
Caitlin Clark, she sold out WNBA jerseys in one hour
on fanatics. I thought they had anendless supply. She sold
(01:09):
them out in an hour. They got a thousand people
to the draft last night. Those tickets sold out in
fifteen minutes. Wow. So I mean it's amazing. You never
know where stars are gonna come from, Like in Los Angeles.
I think it was in the eighties, Fernando Mania.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Oh that's right, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Who would have guessed that? And I want to start
with that is that Caitlin Clark got me to a
TV last night. I'd never watched the WNBA Draft, and
I watched the first forty five minutes of the WNBA Draft.
You know you have pull. You have it when you
get me to a television set and I know what's
gonna happen. I always said Titanic's a great movie. I
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watched it three times. I knew the boat sank, I
knew the ending, I knew what happened. You read the books.
It still got me to a movie theater. That's power.
You never know where the stars come from. The highest
compliment you can pay anybody in this frenetic, distracted world entertainment, iPhones,
(02:10):
tech talk everywhere, the greatest compliment you can get somebody
me last night to sit down in front of a
TV and watch something I don't normally watch. When I
knew the outcome, I knew how it was going to end.
Caitlin Clark goes number one, and I recognized many of
the top ten twelve picks. I'm not going to recognize
(02:31):
many of the top twelve NBA draft picks. The NBA
draft has become like the Oscars, a lot of stuff
that won't get me to a theater. I'll take your
word for it. Those foreign films are great. I don't
know exactly why Caitlin Clark is this popular. I mean,
she's great, there's so many great athletes, she's non controversial.
(02:53):
She plays women's college basketball. But I think a lot
of it is in a world where all these sports
leagues are trying to siphon more money out of you.
I mean, you watch the Yankees. They're on six different
streaming services. This channel, that channel, this channel, Where's baseball?
Where's the MLS? March Madness, Iowa Hawkeyes, little flashy, likable
(03:16):
player has really good range. She gives me what I know.
I've said this about the NFL. It's the only league.
I say, when do you watch the NFL? You not
only give me the day Sunday, but you give me
the times you watch it. Mission impossible, Tom Cruise, They're
on their eighth Mission impossible. Taylor Swift, Caitlin Clark, March
(03:39):
Madness numbers, NFL numbers up all mostly domestic, all things
we've watched for years. The crazier the world gets, the
more global it gets, and I think the NBA has
got more great players than ever. Globalization. Caitlan Clark is
what you know, Iowa, little underdog, mar Madness, broadcast television
(04:02):
mostly or cable. It's just fascinating to watch the things
that get me to a TV in a theater. I
know it's getting bigger out there, and the streaming services
and I got to have this plus and that plus
and that streaming and I find myself seeking simple, seeking, dependable, seeking, traditional.
(04:26):
And I'm watching last night and I'm like, oh, I
know that player, I know that player, I know that program.
I watched that program comfort Food. That was like comfort
television last night. I'm busy, I'm distracted. I don't want
to pay for another cable channel. I don't want to
pay for another streaming service. March Madness ratings up, NFL
ratings up. I mean, I'm trying to explain the unexplainable. Well,
(04:51):
she's a really good player. Her ratings were bigger than
everything except the NFL. Iowa Women's basketball dependable, traditional, non confrontational, fun,
easy to consume, likable, and I've seen it before. The
Big ten and March Madness got me to a television
(05:13):
set last night. Here's Caitlin Clark after.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
When you're kind of just sitting at a table waiting
for your name to be called, I think that really
allows the emotions to feed you, and you're with your family,
like obviously playing a basketball game, I'm not out there
with my family. So sharing that moment with them and
enjoying it and people that have really had my back
and believed in me more than anyone is super special.
You know, I'm twenty two years old and I don't
have all the answers in the world. This is something
(05:38):
new to me. This is a new challenge, and that's
something I'm excited for.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So I always try to find out and there's no
You're always looking for a common thread in the NFL.
How do you know what quarterback's going to hit? And
so there was a story this morning that JJ McCarthy,
the Michigan quarterback that scouts many agree that he is
not a first round pick, but yet he may go
in the top ten. I told her the first time
(06:04):
I watched him, I thought, Hammenegger is okay, it's Hardbott's Michigan,
the old line of the run, game, of the defense.
I don't get it. And so there's a lot of
different opinions right now on him, and so we're always
trying to figure out, and so are NFL teams. What's
the common thread? How do we predict to a higher
level who's going to make it, who's not going to
So I went to the last ten drafts, and there
(06:27):
are twelve we can argue, but twelve quarterback hits in
the last ten draft c J. Stroud and Mahomes, Josh Allen,
Herbert Burrough, Lamar Jalen, Jordan Love, Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence,
Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, franchise guys, franchise guys. The school
clearly doesn't matter because Josh Allen went to Wyoming, Jared
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Goff went to cal Jordan Love went to Utah State.
I mean, Lamar Jackson went to Louisville. That's an okay program.
So the school doesn't matter. Size is mostly overrated. Kyler
Murray small, Josh Allen's a giant. You'd rather be bigger
than smaller. But Lamar Jackson came in really spindily, and
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Josh Allen didn't, and Patrick Mahomes the greatest maybe ever
is average size six to two. The franchise history can matter,
but it doesn't matter that much. Trevor Lawrence got the
Jags of the playoffs. Kyler Murray did the same to
Arizona in the division with Pete Carroll, Kyle Shanahan and
Sean McVay, and Joe Burrow got the Bengals to a
(07:32):
Super Bowl. So what over the last ten drafts, of
the twelve quarterback hits, now, hit can be Mahomes, it
can be Goff, A hit can be Josh Allen, it
can be Kyler. But they're hits. They're franchise guys. The
only criteria that I have found that I can depend on,
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it's one of two things that gives you a higher
probability to be a franchise guy, a high end franchise guy.
Number One, you either in college elevated an average or
a weaker roster Lamar Jackson, Goff, Dak Josh Allen, Mahomes,
Jordan Love, Justin Herbert had Pinasue at left tackle, but
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no other great NFL player on offense. So seven eight
of the guys elevated at the college level, they took
a college roster that was okay and they elevated it
to a Rose Bowl, a Big Bowl. Or the second
criteria that becomes an NFL hit in the last decade,
that you're on a stacked team, but you're insane productive.
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Jalen Hurts at Oklahoma fifty two total touchdowns is last year.
Joe Burrows last year at LSU sixty five touchdowns, Kyler
Murray Oklahoma fifty three hundred yards fifty four touchdowns. So
you're either one of two. You elevate an average college
roster or a weak one, or on a stacked roster
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you're superman. JJ McCarthy's neither. You had average stats on
a stacked roster, he's neither. That's my issue. If you
go to the last decade, we get about one point
three quarterbacks per draft that hit. We have six four
(09:25):
for sure, maybe six first round quarterbacks. You gotta either
show me in college that you took a Wyoming, a
Texas Tech, a Mississippi State, an Oregon roster and took
it to a different level a Rose Bowl, a big game,
you took it to a different level, or you're on
one of these. Traditionally stacked rosters at Oklahoma, Texas, Abama, Georgia, Michigan.
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But you put up crazy numbers, you jump through the
television set with JJ McCarthy, not the first one and
not the second one. He had twenty four twenty five
total touchdowns last year on a team that blew out
a lot of people. He had one three hundred yard game.
So when I pushed back on JJ McCarthy, I've been
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trying to figure out what is it. I mean, he's
six y threes tall enough, he won a bunch of games,
but he didn't elevate a team that had average players,
and he didn't put up riproaring, crazy productive numbers like
all the other guys that are hits in the NFL.
So his Michigan experience is not an NFL experience where
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you will go to a crappy team in the top
ten and have to elevate an average roster, or maybe
you go to a stack roster on a great team
in the NFL, but that's very rare. Most of those
great teams already have great quarterbacks. So there's my answer.
There's my answer on JJ McCarthy. Jason much higher on
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him than I am. That's Okay, I'm a little higher
on bow knicks than everybody else. That's okay. But I
think our biggest argument because you love all these new
young NBA players, and although I do think the league
is never been more talented. The team USA has finalized
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the roster for Paris.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Who stop it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Thank god Lebron Stephen Kd showed up. Otherwise, what an
indictment of AAU basketball.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Woo you're coming in hot on a dude, thinker, how
many beverages did you have last night?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Now half of one beer? You are fired out to
the WNBA draws.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I'll say this, the JJ McCarthy take was a good
one that made me think I did not just.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Like we saw him.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
We watched him game manager, if you will, right did
which was asked of him, didn't make a lot of mistakes,
very Alabama. Like I feel bad for pushing him as
a top ten guy in like November.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Well, he may still end up there.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
He's great value at like twenty two. Great value. Imagine
plug him into the.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Miami offense or or or the Minnesota offense and later
in the first round.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, but how about start for New England game one?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh stop, come on, start for the Giants.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Come on, that's what everybody tells me that. I mean,
I went back, I went back to ten drafts and
I found the twelve hips. And you may not like
Kyler Murray, but if you can take Arizona and that
circus of the playoffs in that division, you're a hit.
So Dak Prescott, I may be critical, he won twelve
games a year. Dak is a hit.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I think was it your buddy Schrager that had the
Giants trading up for J. J.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
McCarthy or something like that in his mock draft. Somebody
texted me something about trading.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Up for him. Yeah, all right, I've got a lot
of stuff today. I'll just I gotta have my say
on the Paris Olympics.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
We're gonna need an hour for that topic of load.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Okay, it's gonna get heated because it's it's not a
discussion the Dream Team would get.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Are you talking about the competition for the ninety two Dream.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Team and go, I'm talking about this team USA. If
you took Lebron Stephan durantofa.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Why would you do that? Why would you take.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Three off three of the top I don't know, fifteen
players in the history of the sport, why would you
take them off the team?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
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Speaker 1 (13:25):
I like new stuff. Jmack likes new stuff. I am
a fan of trying to find the next cool thing.
Not a big rearview mirror guy, marble windshield guy. That's fine,
but not everything that's new is better. And we tend
to over romanticize what life used to be. But boxing
did used to be better a college basketball when a
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Tim Duncan would stay in school of Patrick Ewing for
three or four years, men's college basketball was absolutely better.
And so was our domestic product in the NBA. Our
domestic stuff who went to high school and then college.
Now it's au nonsense. So they announced the Team USA
final roster. I think they have one more player to add.
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Take Lebron James and Steph Curry off this roster. Yikes.
Bama to Bayou has once in his career averaged over
twenty a game on the Dream Team, David Robinson averaged
over twenty three without the benefit of a three point
shot seven times. Look at the dream team. Let's make
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a comp here, Magic, MJ, Byrd Malone, Stockton, Drexler, Ewing, Barkley, Robinson.
That team was so good. Reggie Miller didn't make it.
Isaiah Thomas didn't make it. Dominiquld average twenty eight and
a half the same year didn't make it. I got
I can do it all. Charles Barkley, score down, low
perimeter transition, you get score only, Devin Booker, get the
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greatest shooting guard ever. MJ. You get twenty two year
old Aunt Robinson. I get two titles. David Robinson you
get never made it past the second round, Joe Lmbid,
I get killer instinct, Magic, and MJ. You get. Hey,
you take the shot this time, Jason Tatum. This is
an indictment of what's happening to our basketball culture. AAU,
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no hard high school coaching, maybe a G league, leave
to make money, don't play in college basketball. Take out
Stephen Lebron that era and it's ending. Think I'm wrong?
Go back. I get the greatest point guard ever and
the greatest leader. MJ. You get Tyrese Haliburton a good player,
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But go back the basketball culture in America is a mess.
The AAU culture are domestic stars. The best players in
this league are all international number one draft pick, probably
a front shooting guard coming up. Probably. I went back
to the Tokyo Olympics twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics. Look at
the team USA basketball roster, No Lebron, no Steph javal McGhee,
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Chris Middleton, Zach Levine, Kelden Johnson, Jeremy Grant. Nothing against
those guys, but you take out the old school stars
in the NBA right now, all throwing KD, Steph Lebron,
Look at our team. That's what AAU Basketball's created. Not
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getting hard coaching in high school, not getting dependable coaching
in high school, not going to college anymore. First great
coaching you get is off in your second or third
coach in the NBA, because all those top players go
to bad teams that cycle through coaches. So I know
everybody loves everybody loves the new stuff, and I mostly do.
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But that dream team would take this team apart. At
the seams all players in their prime. This team is
old Lebron or twenty two year olds. That team was
twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, in their prime, championship players,
best in the world ever at their position, wildly competitive.
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Didn't grow up with AAU basketball. We have played sixteen
games a weekend and it's not really about winning games.
Those guys. You turn the lights off, You put a
dream team guy in a room with the current guy here.
Who's coming out? One guy comes out, one guy survives
the AAU guy or MJ or Magic or Berkley or
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Malone or Stockton. I'm sorry, but I look at that.
That is an indictment on what American basketball cultures become.
Thank God for Stephan Lebron. Take him off that team.
It's twenty two year olds. It's a bunch of kids.
By the way, last five or six MVPs gonna be
another one this year. Who are the MVP candidates this year?
(18:02):
Luca Jokich SGA last year, mbid yea honest y'allo trend,
y'allo trend going on. Lebron will be forty this summer.
That's our team, USA Savior. Can you imagine if the
NFL didn't have college football as a feeding system, had
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some sort of AU football thing, and Tom Brady, not Mahomes,
not Alan Lott, Tom Brady at forty four was our
savior if we had Olympic football. I'm just saying, maybe
I'm being old guy at the hardware store yelling I'll
take that dream team twenty seven eight, twenty nine year
old competitive guys in their prime. Their practices have made documentaries.
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They do documentaries on like the Dream Team and how
hard the practices were. J Mack with the News. No, no,
this is the head.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
No, no, this is one of those mornings, right.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I was actually talking to the folks downstairs, and I
was like, Oh, would it be great to just like
not have to work some days and just like just
chill out, you have fun. But then you come in
with this nonsense Taken. I'm just so excited to be
talking about sports all day. Yeah, it's so fun.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
That dream team. That dream team was something else.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I'm gonna pace myself. I'm not gonna touch it here.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
In fact, Dominique and Isaiah they're like not good enough,
by the way, Shack, Well, no.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
No, Isaiah wasn't not good enough. Michael Jordan refused to
let him on the team.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And I love that's no, because that's how competitive those
guys were.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Because Isaiah iced him out before at the All Star
break like eight years earlier.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I mean it was nonsense, but don't get me. This
is a good topic. This is a really spicy topic.
Unfortunately you're on the wrong side this whole.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
The David Robinson everage more points, Colin.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It was a back to the basket era. They fed
him the ball, pounded it down, little baby.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Hooks when he faced other back to the basket, physical bigs,
and everybody had a forearm.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I love David, I love the Admiral, I love Patrick,
I love all those guys.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Bam Ada Bio pickon role to death by Steph Curry
and these guys.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Okay, David Robinson could not guard on the perimeter.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You see how Rudy Gobert plays the drop defense and
Jalen Brunt him eats him up in the mid range.
Except against Curry and all the Halibert it'd be threes
because Robinson would get annihilated in the pick and roll.
Bamana Bayo can guard anybody on the court. Anybody put
him on Jordan and lock him up.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
The league where team score one twenty four, He's averaged
twenty points a game one time.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Because it's an offensive wing three in d League and
he's just a rim running center who's awesome at defense.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Oh jeez, cowhard, Let's let's just go to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh okay.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
According to Adam Jeffer, listen, things are getting sideways in
Dallas pretty fast. Ceedee Lamb is not expected to attend
their off season volunteer Voluntary workout program. Lamb, who's been
a regular attendee in the past, is entering the final
year of his rookie deal. So you start compounding that
with Micaeh Parsons not in attendance.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
That story got leaked.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Yeah, you've got McCarthy coach Dak we've been waiting for
the extension, waiting for it doesn't sound like it's happening.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
There's a lot happening in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I may have been a little too light on them,
and you've been kind of hard saying it's all crumbling.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It's been an incredibly loud off season. A story gets
leaked to make Mica Parsons look bad. Who leaked that?
Somebody inside the Cowboys, Ceedee Lamb, I'm out. Remember what
the reaction was when they lost to Green Bay and
you had cousins and friends of star players ripping DAK.
Cowboys aren't paying DAK. This is they are becoming the
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Jets last year, Oh, the noisiest off season team. It's
not good news.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Okay, So last season Zach Martin held out a training
camp and was able to sign a guy a contract,
got his deal. So maybe this is some postra. Maybe
this is Jerry Jones and his guy saying, Yo, we
got smacked by the Packers. That's unacceptable. Nobody's getting paid now.
The coach down, the quarterback on.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
CD, nobody hold firm.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Guys, talk about it, work on it, and we'll pay
you later.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But we're not just going to cough up the money early.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Maybe Jerry's a little ticked off, still salty that they
got waxed at home by the Packers.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I don't hate this. I just I wonder if.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
You start looking at Dallas Cowboy unders this season or
is it too Is that too much of an overreaction.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I don't think it's an overreaction. I think noise equals
losses in the NFL, maybe not in other leagues. We've
got who got really noisy last year? Was Arizona got
really noisy? They had made the playoffs with Kyler, and
they got really really noisy disaster. Green Bays last year
with Aaron super noisy, didn't make the playoffs. Jets last
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year super noisy. By the way, New England when Brady left,
became a noisier franchise that Matt Patricia mac jones stuffed leaking,
people dogging Belichick, all the leaks that never came out
of New England. Noise equals losses.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Buffalo Bill's noisy. They've been very noisy.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
By the way, the Chiefs had an ugly situation with
Rashid Rice. Not noisy. Happened. Unfortunate go to camp unfortunate,
I mean unfortunately, Yeah, I mean, but again, put it mildly.
Nobody's asking for a perfect roster. Nobody's asking for perfection.
But when you have issues, you close camp, you close ranks,
you take care of it. It stays quiet. There's not
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a lot of leaks. Everybody faces nonsense in this league.
These are kids. These are twenty four year old NFL
players with a lot of money, a lot of freedom
and time. They're gonna make mistakes. Human beings. Got to
keep it quiet.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Let's get to the Niners.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
They made the Super Bowl took the l but the
offseason has been kind of good for them. But in
an appearance at the Masters, George Kittle was asked about
the Niners offensive continuity, how can it help them to
be even better in twenty twenty four, and he said,
we were fortunate enough to keep our entire offense so far.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Clearly, so far is related to Brandon Ayuk's contract situation.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You and I both agree, and we both love Brandon Ayuk,
but there is a time and a place for everything,
and with Debo and McCaffrey and Kittle, I think it's
time to move off Ayuk and I love him and
get a first or two seconds or a first round pick.
I think, I think he's a great player, But I
do think in that offense, which is really about Shanahan's brain,
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Christian McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel's versatility and on third down, Kittle,
I don't think you can justify Brandon Ayuk because he's
just not as valuable or going to get the touches
that Justin Jefferson would get. In Minnesota, there are some
receivers that they're the centerpiece of the team. And as
good as Ayuk is Deebo and McCaffrey can hog up
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a lot of the To be honest, if you ask,
if you ask Kyle Shanahan the perfect game, McCaffrey would
have twenty two carries, Kittle would have six catches, Debo
would have four carries. I think he's a great and
infrequently a great player will be expendable. And I think
Ayuk is that.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
So we're I think we have an edge in talking
about stuff like this is we have been business owners.
When I was with the Big Lead, you know, I
saw this hotshot guy online. He's funny, he's witty, good writer.
Let's bring him on board. Within like six months, you
realize it's not a good thing. He doesn't really want
to grind. Yeah, we just got to move off. Let's
scrap it and move on.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I see this.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Brandon Ayuk situation, and you could see it coming a
mile away. Yeah, the chirpiness, the off Yeah, and I
get it. That's how the games played. But you know
what I would just I would cut bait. I would
move on and then just get the ball, rolling walls
with a draft pick or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
When you have a seventh round quarterback who's not getting paid,
it sort of empowers the receiver if you had a
star quarterback. Receivers generally Brady never had problems, Peyton never
had problems. Lamar doesn't have problems. I mean you notice
very quick Mahomes doesn't have When the quarterback's a star,
everybody gets in line. When the quarterbacks brought perty, it
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empowers players to think, I'm more about By the way,
in New York, a lot of Chirpin' players don't respect
Daniel Jones. It's nothing against Perdy, but when he's a
seventh round pick, he's not making any money, and the
sense in the room is it's about Kyle and us.
It makes it more difficult. I think it just gets
in the way of pretty I'd move him get picks.
This is a stacked roster. They have the means and
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the expertise in the room to move off him. And
it's a receiver rich draft again. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
The final story is the Warriors and Kings are the
late game tonight in a play in matchup with the
loser season being over.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
They have a great history.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
This regular season, they played three games decided by one
point each time, and last year they had the heated
seven game playoff series where your buddy Draymond Green stomped
sabonus while he was on the ground.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Here's Raymond Green on the matchup with the Kings.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
As always a playoff type game, like you feel that
you go into into their arena, their fans want to
light the beam and see us lose and beat the
crap out of us, and they come and hear we
want to beat the crap out of them. A lot
of familiarity amongst the two organizations, even beyond just us
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going out or playing in the money games that we've
played against each other over the past couple of years.
But you know, for us, it's another game you got
to that we have to go win. It's not just
another game, and assays Lego, it's just any other game.
It's another game that we have to go win and
we gotta go get it done.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So in half an hour, I'll give you my five
bold NBA playoff predictions. We went four for five last year,
five bold predictions. I have one of them on this so.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
It's a tough one.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
No lines leaked out now Kings are two point underdogs
at home again. No Malik Monk, no red velvet. The
bench is short for me, it'd be Warriors to pass.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
I'm not gonna bet him here, but I just you know,
I love Fox and sabonus like the bean.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Blah blah blah. This is a tough one for me,
short bench. Curry's rested.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't see it for the kids, you.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
May not be wrong. Warriors have to win. They gotta
win twice. Yeah, so even if they.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Win the night, they still have to beat the Pels
or the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Okay, don't like that we're paying attention to this one.
This one's going to be intense. All the stars play
major minutes. Then you got to play the Lakers, who
you just dogged. Are the Pelicans? Weird matchup? Uphill battle Warriors,
uphill battle. Jmack with the News.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd lot.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So you were looking you said you were looking for
a day off today.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
No, no, I just I have a buddy who how
do I put this politely? He is his own boss
all the time, and you know he's like, day, Jay,
do you want to go for a run this morning?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
And I was like, I gotta go to work. You know,
does he nice?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Morning.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Does he get free smoothies at his work? Because I
got a free smoothie.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I don't think money's an object to him. But anyway,
I like the spirited back and forth. We have fun.
Yere you and I.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, the banter. I'm just saying I tend to be
with a dream team. I tend to be new stuff
is better. But I've been on this thing now for
two or three years. AU basketball Steve acknowledges it. It's
not helping our domestic product.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I don't disagree with that. I don't think anyone does.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
And if you take out, you know, guys that played
on high school basketball teams, like Steph Curry and Lebron James,
you take the out the old school guys. This is
a this this parish team is an AAU team.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
That's fine. But Kevin Durant, Lebron and Curry are on
the team.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, but I'm saying take the old guys off. I mean,
Lebron certainly doesn't have to play. He's been talked into playing.
He wants to pill sell shoes. I get why guys
go to the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
By the way, do you know that the Canadian basketball
team has more NBA guys that were in the entire
ninety two Olympics outside of Team USA. That's how stacked
the world is now. We can thank the ninety two
Dream Team for that, but go look at the Canada roster.
Eight NBA players on the team. Yeah, I mean the
world is way better at basketball.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Go look at their player efficiency in the NBA, and.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
We're way worse. Well, it's it's convergence of things.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
The league is better, way better.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
More America.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
The younger American basketball players are taking longer to pop.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's not a great thing.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
But listen capitalism, right, you have kids who play youth
sports when you can rent a gym and have games
going around round the clock and make a lot of money.
Why would you run a practice when you could play
six games in a day.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Oh, practice, practice doesn't mean anything. It does you know
what it does in Lithuania, in Serbia. Yeah, by the way,
that's those players come over here. They've been skilled, not
just playing games with their buddies.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I don't disagree with any You make a.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Lot of money with a you tony tracksuit makes a
lot of money. Never get like real grown up coaching
high school or college.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
You're you're in the league, but what is the solution? Colin,
Let's hear the solution. We know the problem.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Fix it. Oh, I've got a lot of those. I
don't have enough time.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
At home, they call me mister Solution.
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Speaker 1 (31:27):
All right, welcome back one of my favorite guys. We
get them about once a year. The seventy six ers
have made the playoffs in all four seasons. Darryl Moury
has been their president basketball. Op's one of the smartest
guys in the sport. So I am a fan of
the Plan Tournament, and I do think a lot of
it has to do with the iPhone and the TikTok
and the distractions. We are a distracted society. There's more noise,
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there's more there's more platforms, and so people to get
them do a TV It's Sundays, it's madness, it's Caitlin Clark,
it is predictable, it's Barbie. It's mission impossible to get
people to theaters and games. And I've never been a
fan of seven game first round NBA Playoffs, but I
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like the plan the Urgents I'll be watching tonight. Are
you a fan of it or does it? Can it
punish veteran teams who maybe had an injury and kind
of snuck in, but you know they're better.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
So from a fan perspective, you're preaching the choir. I
think one and done, And I think I even got
in trouble by saying I would be one and done
in the NBA playoffs, because to your point, people tune
in based on how important the game is and how
uncertain the outcome is, and one and done, you're you know,
the quality of the product doesn't even have to be
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doesn't have to be very good, Like if people know
that it's win or go home, it's a big thing.
I would do it more. I would have the first
two seeds get a bye. I'd have the next two
get traditional home court. I'd shorten the see and then
i'd have everyone play in for four to six. I
wouldn't even have eight make the playoffs. I'd make the
regular season worth more. Then the regular season's worth more.
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The top seeds that do it get a bye, and
there's a huge play in to be the five or
six to play in the first round. I think that
would be massive ratings. I love it now. Right now,
as an executive, I hate it right I really, I
really wish we were just playing and playing the two
seed and didn't have to play in. But for the league,
I think it's a tremendous thing.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
So I think the Sixers match up very well with
the Knicks, and I would take you in that series.
I don't know if you can beat Miami. The coach,
the style. You know, you're an interesting team, you're a
good team. Embiid makes you potentially great. He leaves you struggle,
he comes back. You go on a heater. I always
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say late season NBA winning streaks, be careful. Some of
the bad teams they don't mind losing. Some of the
good teams are resting stars. What do you make of
your winning streak at the end of the year, What
do you make of it? Should I buy into it?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:07):
I think so. I mean I think, Look, we did
have a couple of games in there that you would
call like late late season teams not trying to win.
But we also had quite a few good wins in there,
Orlando being one. We beat Miami in this streak in Miami,
so I look to us, it's really not about the
eight game winning streak. It's how we're playing. And Joelle
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has come back strong. We did hold them out precautionary
here in the last game so that he could go
into the playoffs, you know, as fresh as he's ever been.
And yeah, we we like how we're playing. We've got
a couple injuries that you know, just like almost every
team going in. I know the Heat have some injuries. Look,
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the heater are tough out. We know that, we know
that for a fact. But look, I mean, this is
why we're here, this is why we play. Our guys
are ready and and I really think besides Joell, this
will be you know, Maxi's coming out party for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
You have always been a mile ahead of people on analytics.
You tend to see around corners better than most. I
have been critical. I think Adam Silver is excellent, but
I do think he sort of marginalized college basketball. And
I think there's value in good coaching and Tom Izzo
and coach k and Jay Wright, and I like college
basketball at Microwave Stars. Only reason I know who Zion
(35:27):
is is Duke and I think sometimes I'll watch a
Jalen Green and I think, God the first two years
he's finally getting coaching and he's a remarkable talent. So
international players come in, they play against older players, the
games mean more when they come up. It does appear
international stars and international basketball has taken sort of a
(35:47):
lead role in the development of players the MVP. Is
that a fair criticism by me? Are there things about
the domestic culture that bother you in basketball?
Speaker 8 (35:59):
I mean, we're still the number one, number one team
in the world. Our team will be the favorite in
the Olympics coming out. We'd be the favorite in any tournament.
But I love how the international game has caught up,
and it makes sense that some of the elite players
are coming from international There's just more. There's just more players.
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I mean, I wouldn't be shocked that there will be
a top player from India and not too long. They
now are the most populous county country on Earth. So
I think it makes sense that you're getting this variance
and getting these elite players. But I do think the
American game is overly criticized. We're still developing the best
players in the world. I think you can nitpick some things,
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but I'm still very pro us basketball.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Do you feel your organization because of a lack of
ability to win a second playoff series? Do you, guys
feel some heat? Do you feel personally some heat that
you've got to start stacking some playoff wins. We know
you're good. We know MBA's MVP, we know all that stuff.
We know MAXI can play, we know the has length
in stars. But people are saying we want more w's
in the playoffs. Do you sense that pressure?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (37:08):
No, the I think the heat I don't think is
the right word. Whatever. You're good at this. The uh,
the hyperbole, Colin, that's your business. But I would say, look,
this is the whole reason I'm here. Elton Brand's here,
Nick's here, Joel's here. Uh, this is a look. Every
year is critical and the whole point where here is
to win the championship. We have a little bit of
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harder road, mostly because of injury this year, but it's
set up there for us to do it, and the
job is to do it. So Yeah, the heat is
very high, as it should be.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, by the way, Joel Embiid, you've dealt with stars
in this league. What is it like having Joel Embiid
as your star? What is he like as a personality?
Speaker 8 (37:49):
Wonderful, super super intelligent, like the thinks the game. That's
one thing I've had pretty consistent with the stars I've
worked with. I don't think it's an accident. They're not
only elite physical talents, but they're also elite basketball IQ
and work ethic. Joel adding stuff to his game every year,
(38:10):
even at age thirty now coming up or maybe just turned,
I think is pretty remarkable. You know, I would say
just I've worked with a bunch of amazing players, but
at his peak, I just don't see anyone who's had
the two way impact of Joel that I've worked with.
So I've been blessed work with him. He's a joy
(38:31):
with coach Nurse. He he loves the strategy. He loves
sitting with coach Nurse and talking how to beat teams.
He yeah, he's a joy all right.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Tonight the Warriors Kings. Tomorrow it's Heat at the seventy
six ers, and that is I think both those teams
match up very well with the Knicks. Cannot wait to
see how you know what being home matters for that game?
That helps it much, no question.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:58):
So we played the Heat early in this eight game
win Street going in, and we pretty much knew we
had to win it to avoid the plan that didn't work.
But we absolutely knew we had to win it to
avoid going to Miami.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Look a lot of.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
Respect to Spostra and Jimmy Butler and Bam and all
their great players. I mean, this is not a team
that we're gonna have to go out there and win
the game. Like they're not going to beat themselves and
they're yeah, it's it's a tough road, but hey, this
is what the playoffs are for. If we can't beat
the Heat, we're probably not going to win the title.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Darryl Mory seventy six ers will be watching great to
see you. Thanks for making time for us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
Yeah, thanks, Cal appreciate it having me on.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
You bought Darryl Moury. So they're in a little bit
of a heater. The Sixers, by the way, are thirty
one and eight this year, thirty one and eight when
in b plays, So I think they'll beat Miami. I
think they match up very well against the Knicks. The
Knicks have been a fun story, but in the playoffs, boy,
they're Jalen Brunson reliant, aren't they.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah, I'm taking the Knicks in that. You should have asked, Maury,
what do they do if they lose to the Knicks.
Does Joel Embiid ask out of Philadelphia in April?
Speaker 6 (40:04):
Or may?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I like the Knicks in that year.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I'm taking them over the Sixers.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Assuming the Sixers beat the heat we don't even know
if that's a lock. I think they will.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, but they're thirty one and eight when MBI plays,
and he's rested.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
And beats had some massive playoff failures, massive.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Colossal, massive, lost a couple of big games. Nick writes
around the corner my bold playoff predictions. Next
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