July 15, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin Cowherd explains how the US women's team has a chance to correct a ridiculous mistake, why Cowboys QB Dak Prescott is not in Colin's top 10, and why he believes Jordan Love should be. Plus, explaining how Jalen Brunson did the right thing by taking less money.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It is a Monday. We are live in Los Angeles.
It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making that's part of your day.
Jmack is back traveling abroad with the family. It is
great to have you back. Thanks for everybody last couple
of weeks, it was filled in for us. So you
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and I were talking yesterday on the phone briefly and
you said something to me about when you were coming back.
You went and thought to yourself, well what's on TV today?
And the one thing that caught your eye beyond like
the Euros or COPA this week was Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yes, yeah, Phenomena, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I think Caitlyn Clark has that poll and it's interesting.
So yesterday she had another great fourth quarter that came
back to win. So here's what's interesting. Diana Tarassi is
injured and it may open the door for Caitlin Clark
to make the Olympic team. And women's basketball just didn't
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quite know how to handle Caitland Clark. It reminds me
a little bit when Taylor Swift, the singer, became a
billionaire with the eras tor and like the management team
and Ticketmaster had to apologize, like in ten minutes they
couldn't supply enough tickets. It was just they were completely overwhelmed.
And I think that's what women's basketball was with Caitlin Clark.
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I mean, they knew a year out she could be
the number one pick. They give her the toughest schedule
early schedule in the league over any other team. And
remember the Indiana Fever were the worst team. So she
comes in, they start one, They put nothing but quality
veteran teams that had been in the playoffs. Terrible start,
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and then the league has to scramble because she's selling
jerseys and merch like crazy. They've got to switch venues
in LA. They went from the pyramid in Long Beach
to Crypto, and the league just then they league got
you know, this is what happens sometimes with soccer fans,
they feel ignored, and WA fans feel ignored, so they
get very precious, very tribal, very insul or. She's not
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gonna make the USA women's basketball Olympic team, and you're like,
are you crazy? Go look at the men's team. It's political.
Jalen Brown's not on it because Nike doesn't want him
on it. Kyrie Irving's not on it because nig didn't
want him on it. You're not gonna put Caitlin Clark,
your Taylor Swift on the team. Well, you know, she
sells out her All Star jersey in seventeen minutes. I'm
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still not sure women's basketball quite has their feet under them.
You know, they're they're doing a ticket master, They're bailing water.
She's exploding as a player. She leads the WNBA in assists,
She's third in three pointers made. Indiana's won eight of twelve.
Yesterday's a prime example where she is in the fourth quarter,
best player on the floor. Had a choppy first half
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but had ten points. But you're not going to hear
anybody pick on women's basketball as a unit. There's a
lot of sick of fans in the media. They feel
like the sport's been ignored, so they're part of the
brigade to support it. And that's fine, but let's be
honest about it. The sportman a terrible decision on the
Olympic team. The scheduling early, even though they knew she
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was coming out and probably going to be a number
one pick a year earlier. About the time they were
making schedules was ridiculous. And now Indiana's on fire. Caitlin
Clark's like a seventeen eight and six player. She's getting
better by the week. She says the right stuff at
the podium. She's there's nothing about her you don't like.
And it's like, now you make he made a big
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mistake the first time, not putting her on the Olympic team.
Don't double down on dumb. Get her on the team.
Give us a reason to watch the Olympic women's team.
You guys win gold every year. Your competition's week, you
win it every year. Give us a reason quadruple your
television ratings with her promoting not only the other women
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on the team that could get endorsements, but promoting your sport.
There's a reason that top movie stars and top athletes
use the same four or five agents because they can
handle it. They don't get overwhelmed. Women's basketball is felt overwhelmed. Here.
You got your Connor McGregor, your baseball, You got your
Bryce Harper. You know it's very You got your Messy
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in the MLS. You put him on TV. You know,
the whole salary cap in the MLS. It's funny they
got Messy into the MLS. The guy makes more than
some of the teams. They figured out a way to
get him into the MLS. The weren't precious and rigid
and so listen. In basketball terms, this is a layoff.
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In NBA terms, it's a slam dunk. If you can
get her on the Olympic team. You miss the first time,
do it the second time. You're doing yourself a favor.
Don't get in the way of yourself. Don't jump over
a twenty dollars bill to get to a five. As
they say, you screwed up the first time, don't screw
up again. Get her on the Olympic team. Diana Tarassi,
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by the way, has been a huge, ardent supporter of
Caitlin Clark. She wouldn't mind it all right, So I
saw this. NFL executives, NFL coaches, NFL scouts ranked the
top ten quarterbacks going into this league. By and large,
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I not only agree with the list, but I mostly
agree with the order. Mahomes one, Burrow two, Allen three,
Lamar four, Matt Stafford five, Justin Herbert six, C. J.
Stroud seven, cross your fingers on health. Aaron Rodgers eight,
Jared Goff nine, Dak Prescott ten. Nine of ten I
agree with. I would not have Dak Prescott in the
top ten. This feels like fear people around the NFL.
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They're fearful of the regression you may see with Jordan Love.
I'd love to see another four or five games. Jordan
Love is better than Dak. You did watch a twenty
seven to nothing lead in Dallas with a much younger
team full of guys one in two years out of college.
He's more fluid, he's got a better whip as an arm,
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he moves better, fewer injuries. I mean, it wasn't close.
Dak in that game looked anxious, he looked overwhelmed. He
wasn't very accurate. He missed open receivers. You can't watch
that game and tell me Dak is more talented raw
talent than Jordan Love, and Jordan Love has better coaching,
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and he's got better arsenal of weapons at tid end
and wide receiver. Jordan Love's going to be better than
Dak Prescott. Folks, how long do you have to see something?
How long do you have to watch a movie before
you're like this stinks? I always think that when I
watch movies. If you can't get the first twelve to
fifteen minutes right, I'm out. That's all I give a
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Netflix or an Amazon Prime show. I'm going to give
you eight to twelve minutes. That's your shot to get me.
If you watch a Narcos, you know, if you watch
a mind Hunter, you can tell from the writing ten
minutes in this is a good series. If you can't
get me in the first eight what's the middle of
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it going to look like? What's the ending going to
look like? How many years do you have to see
Dak be really great in the regular season against bad
teams in his division. He doesn't beat good teams because
against good teams you have to be better and more
precise and elevate team mates. If you go look at
last year's final ten starts, including the playoffs, Jordan Love
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was outstanding. Third in the entire league in completion percentage,
first in touchdown interception ratio. That's with kids at wide
receiver and tight end kids and a young old line.
First in passer rating twenty six hundred yards. I think
this is this is fear about. Well, I could go backwards.
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I trust the Packers on quarterbacks. Here's the other thing.
Think about the quarterbacks. You know you tend to think, well,
it takes a while. Takes a while if you look
at the star quarterbacks. You can go to the first
camp of Mahomes and video was leaking out of some
of his side arm stuff the first member week eleven,
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Lamar Jackson justin Herbert's first game, c J. Stroud's first game,
Joe Burrows first half, Kyler Murray's first four or five
game games. You can spot talent early. I say this
on all these music shows, the Voice, America's got talent.
How long does it take you to go, oh wow,
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that doesn't sound like everybody else. Eight seconds. You don't
have to watch that much quarterback play now. Jordan Love
sat for years. I said this forever. I had more
footage of bigfoot. His first three years in Green Bay,
you didn't even get practice footage, so I had no idea,
and I thought he had a terrible September, but by
late October you're like there's something there, and by November
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you're like, wow, okay, yeah, that's a first round quarterback.
So if you're watching Jordan Love in Dallas last year
and you're watching Dak it wasn't even particularly close. More rawability,
more fluid, better whip, better movement, not putting him in
a top ten right now. It's fear based. And I
think if you really are honest with CJ. Stroud and
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Burrow and Mahomes and Lamar, even Josh Allen was a
little choppy early because of the turnovers, his talent was
completely unmistakable. You could not watch Lamar or Josh Allen
early first couple of starts and not go wow, But
these people waiting for Daniel Jones to pop, folks, it's OVA,
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it's Ova. It doesn't work. That's why when you're watching
Hard Knocks on HBO Max with the Giants they wanted
to move up and get Drake Maye, it's over. You
don't have to watch a movie for an hour and
a half to figure out if it's any good. All right,
Diana Russini is joining us next hour. Derek Jeter's on
the show today as well. J Mack was over there
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My wife's been there. I have not. We're gonna go
there in the next nine ten months. Supposed to be amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Amsterdam incredible, just outstanding vibes energy. We were there when
Netherlands played England. Oh wow in the eras they were
playing in Germany. But every bar, just the streets are mobbed,
people excited. It was great London. There's some Herd fans
in London. I did not expect that, but the shows
big over there.
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Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, I've thought about this a lot. If I
was a pro athlete and uh, you know, let's say
I was playing in the NFL and I was a
non quarterback. I was a linebacker, an interior lineman, you know,
your shoulder surgeries, your knees in a very physical position.
I would understand just saying listen, I'm going to go
play for a bad team. I got a short career.
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I'm going to take the most money, give me, give
me tax benefits. If I was a quarterback, I want
to win. That's differently and you don't get hit as much.
But if I was in one of these sports like
baseball where you can play forever, or basketball where almost
no careers for non centers are cut short due to injuries, like,
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I want to win games. The seasons are so long.
I don't want to get on a team plane forty
five times a year and go get my brains beat
in because I you know, I want a bad team.
But I took another thirteen million dollars. No, thank you.
I want to play a winning team. I want to
get on that plane having won another game six of seven.
You know how much fun it would be to play
for the Boston Celtics right now? How much fun that
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would be getting on a plane for a six game roadie. No,
you're gonna win five and maybe all six that you
don't have to carry your team. You can have better teammates.
Do you know what's fun it would be to play
for the Dodgers or the Phillies these days? And how
awful it would be to play for a bottom end
team and all those sports. Football is different, especially if
you're in the trenches, or you're a linebacker, or you're
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a running back. Austin Eckler broke, get your money, play
wherever you got to play. You're a smaller athlete, you
take a beating, take your money. But I thought Jalen
Brunson's in one of those sports basketball where you're better
off playing for a winner, and he could have taken
one hundred and thirteen million more dollars. And Jalen Brunson said,
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I love New York, I love my teammates, I love
my coach, I love the city, and I think we
have a chance to be great over the next four
to five years. And so he put pen to paper
this weekend, he gave up more. I still made one
hundred and fifty seven million dollars, but he gave up
more money over one hundred million, than any NBA player
ever has. It should be noted Tom Brady gave up
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tens of millions of dollars to be the goat. Tom's
not the goat because of what he made. Kirk Cousins
end of his contract in Atlanta will have made more.
When you go to Canton or Springfield. Nobody ever says,
as you go to the podium, you were the highest
paid guy in twenty sixteen. For a month, they say
you were great. And Jalen Brunson, this is what leadership
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looks like. Because of the new CBA, it gives the
Knicks big advantages going forward. This is what Bosh Wade
and Lebron did in Miami. It's what Kadie did to
the Warriors, It's what Brady did, and Mahomes has done
a little bit of it in Kansas City. Jalen Brunson,
as I've said from the beginning, he's got self awareness, intelligence,
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he gets it. The big picture is the Knicks, because
there's two Major League Baseball teams and two NFL teams
in New York, but nobody cares about the Nets. It
is a Nicks city. Did you see that city explode
last year? With Jalen Brunson. He is the best quarterback
in that city. And these Villanova guys, they're different. They're
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in it for the right reason. That's why there's a
term Villanova guy in the NBA. And there's a lot
of great programs, but that's a term and it means
more than basketball. It's stayed in school, practice, hard play, defense,
great teammates. Jalen Brunson's the ultimate Villanova guy. And then
they went and got in Michale Bridges, a really equally
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talented Villanova guy. And you know, the young media is
just it's constantly whenever you see people talking about get
the back. Whenever I see somebody in my business and
their salaries out there, or an athlete salaries out there.
It's out there because you want it out there. That's
all ego. Jalen Brunson. He didn't have a problem showing you, Yeah,
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I took one hundred and thirteen million dollars left. My
agent can release it. I took less. And that's what
leadership looks like. How are you gonna spend all that
money anyway? Jalen Brunson's got another nine years in this league.
He could be one of these guys at the end
of his career. People just want him in the room.
People just want him in the locker room. He can
be one of these backup quarterbacks that makes fifty million
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dollars in the last eight years of their career being
a backup did Jacoby Brissett. People want him in the room,
Josh McCown, Chase Daniel, you just want him around the team.
But I love this move by him. I think it
helps the Knicks. There have been a lot of Knicks
pseudo stars in my life. This kid's a star. Nothing
illustrates your commitment to winning in salary cap sports by
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taking a little less stop with it, get the bag. Nonsense,
Get the title, get the wins, get the conference championships.
Nobody in Springfield or Canton when you go to the
podium cares what you made. They care that you were
part of something special. The Pistons, MJ's Bulls, Kobe shack Laker,
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who knows what they made? Who cares what they made?
The teams were special, and the leaders in sports get it.
And Jalen Brunson remains the best quarterback in New York
and the best star they've had since Patrick Ewing. J
Mack with the news, No, no tar on the news.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
This is the herd line news. All right, let's start
with soccer.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Spain and England a thriller in the Euro Final yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It was scoreless at the half.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Spain scored first early second half, England answers, and you
know we're expecting, Okay, finally England's going to.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Break through the time out.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
They're finally going to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
They haven't won a major title since nineteen sixty six.
But of course Spain scores a great goal in the
eighty six minute and they win. Christfallen for my English friends.
This is a phenomenal gamest.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Of all the environment in the Euro Oh gosh, yeah,
it was both the Copa and Euro set records for Fox.
The environment in this game it felt like a World
Cup final. It was insane. It is their NFL, and
the intensity and the passion and the quality of it
was just top show.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And if you're watching that and just know a lot
of the players from both those teams are very young. Yes,
they're going to be here on us soil in twenty
six for the World Cup. Spain's got two amazing young guys.
The teenager Jamal.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Is just he's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I was rooting for England Conley just so the leads
a bridesmaid. Whoever the run, they can never pull.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It off well and it listened it It's like the
Buffalo Bills there is You think England, you think of
high quality, but you don't think of championships. I mean,
Argentina felt like until recently they went forever that we
were for years and years, a decade we were talking
about Argentina, how could you be that good? Well, now
they've won a Copa a couple of times, they've won
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a World Cup. Eventually, you know, eventually, if you have
a Josh Allen or you have a messy Eventually you do.
Sometimes it's at the end of their careers, not at
the beginning. But it's like Argentina now is on fire.
England's lost to really good clubs and really good stars.
It's not anything more than that.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And for everyone who.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Says, hey, oh the US will never be as good
as some of these teams, I just want to my people.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
England hasn't won anything in forever. Anything.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
They're making runs, they're going place it, but they're not.
They're coming up short. Like the US would obviously kill
for a spot to go this far, to go as
far as England did.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I thought it was what I really noticed. And again,
ratings are truth serum. The WNBA and the Euros and
COPA all got are getting great ratings. So you can say,
you know, why are you talking about it? If you
turn on a television over the last three weeks and
you watch the Euros or COPA, I mean, the European
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quality is just the passion is insane, the quality of skill.
I thought it just jumped off and I was gone
for sixteen seventeen days. The only stuff I watched was that.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, when we were in Europe, the only thing we
watched was soccer. There was no like you turn on
the TV and it's like BBC News and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Like we didn't watch anything.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It was just how big was it over there? Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's everything.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Everywhere you go it's England gear. People are all geeked out.
It was fucking my kids. It was eye opening for them,
a really really good time. Just bump for England. Happy
for Spain, which you know was the better team. Next
story is Copa America Colin this game last night, another
phenomenal soccer match on Fox. Messi did leave early with
an injury. Yeah, Argentina wins it. Here's a goal in
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the one hundred and twelfth minute in extra time. This
kid Martinez, who's just a goal scoring machine, led the
tournament in goals.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You feel gutted for Colombia.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
There was a lot of sideshow stuff with this match,
with people crashing the gates and getting in there. Listen,
soccer fans are passionate and were Columbia.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You generally have fewer games, you know, and every other
in the world you have more opportunities to watch in soccer.
I mean, there are times that it feels like the
United States fans national team disappears for six months right now,
they don't have a coach, So I mean, soccer fans,
let me defend them. The games there's more scarcity, so
the games are all big. Even the friendlies feel big. Yeah.
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So it's how many big football or soccer matches do
you have in a year? If you're Columbia or Argentina,
I mean big and a lot of people that the
entire countries they got one team. So I'll defend soccer
fans when you have a scarcity of games. It's a
little bit like college football fans. I mean like until recently,
you played like twelve games and maybe three big ones.
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When I work down in the South, when the Bagos
were showing up to Gainesville on Wednesday, and I was like, wow,
well you only get about three great home games a year.
If you're a Gator fan or a seminal fan, like
big Gebama's in town, Georgia's in town, you spend five
days getting ready.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
For I will say that messy injury was a massive bummer,
and you know he was crying when he left. The
ankle injury was pretty gruesome. It's weird when they showed
the fans Argentina fans when Messi left, you know, sixty
fifth minute, they were crying. In the States, you don't
see that in any other sport. Like Patrick Mahomes gets hurt,
people are concerned and nervous, but nobody's actually reduced to tears.
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These fans were devastated, like, oh my's just the last
time I'm going to see Messi. It was it was special.
Messi's not going to retire, I don't think so yet,
but man, he's banged up.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
He is, But don't you think he'd be in the
World Cup.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Well, Ronaldo seems to think he's gonna still play with Portugal,
and I mean Messi.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I don't think Messi's retiring. I think he's too electric still,
like it was just awesome. Yeah. Yeah, Athletes get injured
as they get older. Aaron Rodgers could retire today. He
wants to play.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know, soccer is a young man's game. And he
didn't have a great phenomenal Kopa.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
His one goal was kind of.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
A reflection that shouldn't have been his. But listen, I
hope we see Messi in the World Cup in twenty
six but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I'm that would be the great way. They just won
the last one. That would be a great way. One
more great run in the world.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You think Fox in the US would love for war go.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Final story is NFL.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
We're getting closer to the debut of Caleb Williams or whatever,
like eight weeks away. The offense has made a lot
of changes this offseason will center around the rookie QB
tight end. Mercedes Lewis, your guy thinks Caleb has what
it takes to be successful.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
From a talent Stanford, he has everything it takes to
be great. I think it's the perfect offense for him
to come in right away to be successful. What I'm
looking for out of him is just to be humble,
listed twice as much as he speaks, and then naturally
guys are going to gravitate towards I have no doubt
that you know he's going to go out there and
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do us today. Us as a team, we have to
get better and elevate our games up so that it
is an easy transition.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
So I'm looking for.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
To Unlike Caitlin Clark uh, the Bears have kind of
a layup at home against the Tennessee Titans in the
opener September eighth.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
They don't play the Packers. See, this is the difference
between the WNB and the NFL. The NFL looks at
Caleb Williams and the Bears, major market rookie sensation. They
don't play the Packers until Week eleven. They make sure
those are tough games, right, you got love Lafleur, like,
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you don't want to you don't want to open with
green Bay and go oh one to one. They give
them a week team first week going up north. They
give the Bears a great opportunity to win. That's the
difference between the NFL and the WNBA. They saw they
knew a year almost, you know, because of the Carolina
Chicago pickswap. They knew Chicago to have the number one pick.
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They knew Caleb would be the number one guy. So
the NFL, you know, nine months out, knew who was
going to go number one, probably a year out, and
they're like, we're going to make sure that Bear schedule.
They open it home as a favorite, and they don't
have to do the onslaught of Detroit and green Bay,
especially Packer stuff until later in the year when Caleb
has grown.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Now, the interesting thing is My guess is Caleb has
a good game against Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Tennessee's got a lot of newness.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, you know, they did pick up Sneed in the offseason,
who's obviously very good.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
But I think the Bears win this. Caleb looks pretty good.
I'm guessing yes, Week two, Caleb Williams versus c J.
Stroud in prime time.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
By the way, do you think that that's gonna get it?
Do you think that's a coincidence? But we or that
we have last year's great rookie quarterback and this year's
great rookie quarterback. Yeah, So the NFL in Week two says, Okay,
let's put last year's stud quarterback against this year stud quarterback.
The NFL first two weeks for the Bears, that's all orchestrated. Hey,
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I've said this, if I'm paying for March Madness, I'm
not gonna pick the teams, but I gotta make up
the seating chart at the wedding if I'm picking up
the bill. So the NFL gives you a home opener
in Chicago in a beautiful day, you should win, and
then c J Stroud week two. So you're taking the Bears,
which are a bad team and you're making their first
two games fascinating.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
And then it's listened Colts, Rams Panthers that those aren't.
You don't want to get too excited if you're there.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Those are winnable games.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But there is a world where they're three and two,
four and one right out of the gate, and it sink, Okay,
we got we got something.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But you and I both love this. The NFL really
really understands they're a TV show more than any league.
I mean, they gave that bear schedule incredible thought to
start that. Now they may go oh and two in
those games possible, but they set them up to succeed.
The WNBA had the fever playing Connecticut New York.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
They go one and eight, the worst team in the league.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You knew a year out. Caitlin Clark's going to Indiana.
What are you doing? J Mack with the news?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Well that's the news. Thanks for stopping by The herd.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Line News Diana Russini. Next hour, Derek Jeter stops by.
I'm glad you're into the So we talked yesterday briefly
or don't forget Colin Wright, Colin wrong. Thirty five minutes
from now, we talked about this soccer And you know,
I was talking to a friend, Danny Parkin yesterday in
my podcast and I said, when I got into this business,
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I didn't want to work at the NFL network. I
love college football, but there was about a ten year
window where college football got incredibly regional. It felt like
it was Clemson Alabama for about eight years. That's not good.
And I'm doing syndicated, that's not good. If I was
a talk show host in Atlanta, I'd be great, right,
But it's like, what's really happened over the last year.
(27:45):
WNBA's exploded college football by you know, ending the Pac
twelve and putting their four Western teams in the Big
Ten and then putting Texas Oklahoma in the SEC. It
feels a little bit more like pro football. That you
and I nothing against the NFL network, but that's not
where we want to work. The WNBA is a regular
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topic college football. Our bosses here think ratings will be
up fifteen percent for the sport. It's like college football
has been reborn with all these moves. Everybody was reticent
to all these moves. Everybody freaked out. The PAC twelve
is dying. I'm a PAC twelve. Guy, you're gonna tell me,
go look at the Big Ten schedule this year. There's
gonna be Saturdays where you're getting like you're waking up
(28:28):
in the morning to Penn State, you know, Iowa, then Oregon,
Ohio State, then Washington Michigan, like three and four games
in a row. You're really losing sleep because the Oregon
State Washington State game is not gonna happen anymore, like
wake up. This is great, But I think what's happened
between the emergence of soccer in this country, between Caitlin
(28:51):
Clark and these moves to expand the SEC and the
Big Ten, it's given us like a reboot to our
summer programming, things to talk about. And I just think
for you and I, if we wanted to work at
the NFL network would be one thing. And I love
the NFL, but you know, six months of my life
it's NFL talk, So I think it's it's really been
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refreshing to watch the Caitlin Clark story. I've said it,
she's like Taylor Swift for women's basketball. They don't quite
know how to handle her. They're bailing water. It's Ticketmaster
with the Era Tour they know what quite what to do.
But it's so good for our business that I'm genuinely
on a weekend like you. I'm like, oh, it's Caitlin
Clark play.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
And by the way, hey, if the US, I know
they're in the hunt for a coach right now. So
if Southgate, the coach of England, gets dumped, they do
not like him. The fans over there, Oh Southgate's the worst.
He actually did good subbing in the semifinal and final.
If they dump him and the US grabs him, Colin,
that is huge for US soccer.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
We got the coach of England coaching US.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I mean, nobody liked Burlter here. I know you were
a bur Alter defender.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Now I won sixty nine percent of his game he did.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
He want a lot. I think this coaching search is fascinating.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
We know they struck out with their number one option,
but I don't think soccer's totally done this summer.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'll just say that with the US coaching search, it is.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Don't you think it's interesting though? Years ago you formed
a company. That's how we met is that you tend
to be more of a windshield guy than a rearview
mirror guy. We're both the same way. I'm kind of
bored by yesterday fascinating by tomorrow. And it is interesting
how often new things freak people out, and so like,
(30:30):
you know, the Big ten expansion, everybody freaks out. Then
six months later you're like, this is amazing. The schedule
is amazing. And the Caitlin Clark Angel Reese when they're
fighting early, everybody's freaking out. No, it's created a rivalry.
This is amazing. Don't be terrified of new stuff. I
don't like that Burrhalter was let go, but if they
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snagged the coach of England, then it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
By the way, how many twelve team playoff? When does
that start?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
This year?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Twelve team playoffs?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
As opposed to what they used to have, Like, it's
just got college football is gonna be croud.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
We used to decide college We used to decide college
football champion with a poll of sports writers. Not great.
I think one year years ago Penn State went like
thirteen and oh and didn't win. It could have been
in the seventies or eight. I forget what the year was,
but it was. I mean it just they split the title.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
One year in the early nineties.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
One Washington in Miami, Washington was better, but.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Washington Miami megan.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, it was Washington in Miami Huskies and that was
the best Husky.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
And it was just like, what are we doing, We're
just deciding a title of votes.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I uh, yes, good stuff today. Don't forget Colin Wright,
Colin wrong top of our number two.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
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Speaker 1 (31:45):
We were getting into this discussion this morning Jay Mack
about winnings not comfortable and Bill Belichick. For years, you know,
it was all about sacrifice. Everything's for the team. And
then there were quotes out there that an urban Meyer
had relayed this that he had talked to Belichick, and
Belichick said, after five or six rings, I only want
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to coach certain types of players. Well, winning isn't comfortable.
Sometimes you have crappy players, sometimes you have a coach
on the staff you don't like. And that Bill wanted
to be comfortable more than he wanted to win. And
the greatest football coach ever got run, got run out
of the city. I mean, think about how great Bill was.
Four years later, Exit stayed right because Bill wanted he
(32:32):
sought comfort over winning, and that We were talking about
this with Aaron Rodgers this morning. Aaron, he was always
about winning and then all of a sudden, now it's like, well,
I want Randall Cobb on the team and Alan Lazard
and Nathaniel Hackett. No, that's comfort, that's not winning. Do
you want to win? And by the way, it's all
(32:56):
you know, like, do you think Tyreek Hill made Patrick
mahomes job easier? Of course he did. Of course he did.
Lollipop throws down the field or touchdowns. Comfortable isn't winning.
They had to move off that salary, got a bunch
of draft picks hit on several and so Belichick pivoted
(33:19):
from all about winning to mostly about comfort. He got fired.
Is Aaron doing that in Green Bay? So Aaron wrapped
up this weekend. He was playing some celebrity golf stuff,
and you know, he talked about he had a really
good off season. And you know, part of me really
likes Aaron that he pushes back on authority. I don't
have to agree with his vaccine take. I think it
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can be a little kooky and conspiratorial, But you know what,
I like people that push back. I think we should
push back on our government. I think this weekend we
should push back on our secret service. What happened to Trump.
We should push back. That's regrettable, egregious to have those
lapses in our secret service. I think we all should
question government and authority. So part of me really likes
(34:02):
that part of erin though I don't know what's agree
where he's going, but he talked about going into this
season in New York and he's wrapped up his summer.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
My Achilles feels good. I felt really good at the
end of last year. Then there's kind of a you know,
there's always that kind of plazau part. It's just about
getting back into it. I felt good, off Spring had
a nice OTA's had a beautiful trip to Egypt. And
this is like the last marker Summer's over on Sunday
Walking of eighteen is like super bittersweet.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But it's interesting as Aaron has sought a little more comfort,
I want my guy Natt Hackett, Randall Cobb, Alan Lazart
as he has sought comfort. Remember he did this at
the end in Green Bay two. He's not winning as
much like Belichick, and it's interesting it's not that long ago,
(34:51):
not that long ago that many people in the media
and a lot of fans were saying Aaron's better than Brady.
This was about six years ago. Now, some of those
people are not serious. Those are unserious people. And I
never bought into it. He's prettier to watch than Tom.
He's got a better arm, you know, it's very Merino like.
It's a beautiful, beautiful ball comes flying out of his
(35:14):
hand like a seed. There's no question about that. Esthetically,
it's beautiful, prettier than Tom. But it's interesting. Now, forget
being better than Brady. The way it's ending, is he
better than Farv. Farv got some more super Bowls. Forget
the fact that Farv was more beloved. That I mean,
Farv was like middle American ethos. People loved Farv, loved
(35:38):
far We've always been. You know, Aarin's a bit more
aloof So FARV has more Super Bowls. FARV has a
better playoff win percentage. FARV has more come from behind
playoff wins in the fourth quarter. FARV also went to Minnesota,
and if you remember his first year, Farv was insane
thirty three touchdown, seven picks, sixty eight percent completion percentage.
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Farv was unbelo in Minnesota. He was third or fourth
in the MVP voting. They were twelve and four. He
got a play from the Super Bowl next year. He
was hurt, but he was unbelievable. So if this jet
thing sputters out, I mean, I always thought Aaron was
better than Farv. But with movies and sports, the ending
(36:20):
can matter. If it's choppy and it's close, it doesn't matter.
With Michael Jordan it wasn't close. He was the best player.
But if we're talking FARV and Aaron Rodgers, and Farv's
ending is Minnesota, and this jet thing sputters, But it
is interesting. Bella Check at the end sought comfort over winning.
(36:41):
He wanted to win, but it was comfort. Same guys
on the staff. He wouldn't bring in anybody new on
the staff. It was a lot of re treads. Let's
get Matt Patricia back. In fact, let's put Matt on
the offense. I only want to draft certain players that
is not winning. And so when I look at Aaron,
my take is this year really matters to him in
(37:02):
his legacy Because Bart Starr's got two Super Bowl wins,
Farv's got more Super Bowls. What is Aaron number three?
You say to yourself, No, let me ask you. I mean,
think about this. He didn't have a great last year
in Green Bay. Jordan loved this morning is better. Appears
to be better. The Jets have a makeshift offensive line
(37:23):
in a much tougher conference. He went from the NFC
in a week. Remember most of his career Detroit and
Chicago were nonsense. Now he's in a better division. Clearly,
Buffalo is the better team. Miami's the more dynamic offense.
You know he's got He's got two wins over the Patriots.
(37:43):
But it is interesting. It wasn't that long ago people
were arguing he's better than Brady. He's a regular season hero.
But this matters. This season matters for Aaron. I know
you're rolling your eyes, but you're rolling your eyes, but
you start looking at Belichick. There were certain coaches he
(38:06):
wanted to work for.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
He wouldn't go.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
On the market. He wanted to go back and get
Bill O'Brien, Matt Patricia. There were a lot of young
aggressive There are a lot of Demico Ryan's out there.
You could interview. He didn't. That's not what he wanted.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
So I'm a little late.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I'm assuming you talked about the Devonte Adams stuff last week, right,
So remember two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
All the story Rare Rogers is no leader.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
He wasn't there, he was in Egypt, he missed all
this time with the Jets. He comes back and in
full calculating fashion. Oh, I can't wait to play with
Deavante Adams again. I'm at Big Ben touring, you know,
in London, and I get this sticks. Do you think
we could get Devonte Adams? I was like, I have
no idea what this my buddy's talking about, and I
just I just know Rogers.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
He's quickly shifted the narrative.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Did you notice that almost overnight it's DeVante Adams and
now it's comfort And I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Rounding out my golf season starts basically at the end
of this tournament. I'm ready to go. Colin.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
You just said the word super Bowl in the same
sentence as Aaron Rodgers. Okay, do you are you ready
to put them back in the bubble?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
No? No, I don't buy it at all. I don't
definitely know. Well, I think they have I think Buffalo
is going to win the division again, I think Miami's
a more dynamic offense.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Do you see by the way Pro Football Focus ranked
offensive lines in the league.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Did you see where the Jets is this season?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I know overrated.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
They have over their fifth because they got two dudes
at tackles who were incredible last year. They got guys
coming back healthy. I think it's start time to start
warming up to the Jets and Rogers.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I will say they're gonna win the division, that's for sure.
Now they're not lock it up the two teams in
the league. I'm fascinated to watch. And this is a
lot of why we love the NFL as quarterback play.
I was a baseball fan when I was a kid,
and somewhere in the mid eighties, maybe I don't know
who it was, it was Ken O'Brien, No, that wasn't it.
But there was a handful of quarterbacks that you know,
(40:09):
late seventies, early eighties. It was Elmetway and Marino and
know whatever those guys are, And it was Bill Walsh's offense.
And I kind of pivoted to an NFL fan over
a baseball fan. But there are a lot of really
good young offensive minds at head coach Aaron doesn't have one.
There's a lot of good ones. He doesn't have one.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It is a Monday. We are live in Los Angeles.
It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making that's part of your day.
Jmack is back traveling abroad with the family. It is
great to have you back. Thanks for everybody last couple
of weeks, it was filled in for us. So you
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and I were talking yesterday on the phone briefly and
you said something to me about when you were coming back.
You went and thought to yourself, well what's on TV today?
And the one thing that caught your eye beyond like
the Euros or COPA this week was Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yes, yeah, Phenomena, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I think Caitlyn Clark has that poll and it's interesting.
So yesterday she had another great fourth quarter that came
back to win. So here's what's interesting. Diana Tarassi is
injured and it may open the door for Caitlin Clark
to make the Olympic team. And women's basketball just didn't
(01:22):
quite know how to handle Caitland Clark. It reminds me
a little bit when Taylor Swift, the singer, became a
billionaire with the eras tor and like the management team
and Ticketmaster had to apologize, like in ten minutes they
couldn't supply enough tickets. It was just they were completely overwhelmed.
And I think that's what women's basketball was with Caitlin Clark.
(01:45):
I mean, they knew a year out she could be
the number one pick. They give her the toughest schedule
early schedule in the league over any other team. And
remember the Indiana Fever were the worst team. So she
comes in, they start one, They put nothing but quality
veteran teams that had been in the playoffs. Terrible start,
(02:06):
and then the league has to scramble because she's selling
jerseys and merch like crazy. They've got to switch venues
in LA. They went from the pyramid in Long Beach
to Crypto, and the league just then they league got
you know, this is what happens sometimes with soccer fans,
they feel ignored, and WA fans feel ignored, so they
get very precious, very tribal, very insul or. She's not
(02:30):
gonna make the USA women's basketball Olympic team, and you're like,
are you crazy? Go look at the men's team. It's political.
Jalen Brown's not on it because Nike doesn't want him
on it. Kyrie Irving's not on it because nig didn't
want him on it. You're not gonna put Caitlin Clark,
your Taylor Swift on the team. Well, you know, she
sells out her All Star jersey in seventeen minutes. I'm
(02:54):
still not sure women's basketball quite has their feet under them.
You know, they're they're doing a ticket master, They're bailing water.
She's exploding as a player. She leads the WNBA in assists,
She's third in three pointers made. Indiana's won eight of twelve.
Yesterday's a prime example where she is in the fourth quarter,
best player on the floor. Had a choppy first half
(03:17):
but had ten points. But you're not going to hear
anybody pick on women's basketball as a unit. There's a
lot of sick of fans in the media. They feel
like the sport's been ignored, so they're part of the
brigade to support it. And that's fine, but let's be
honest about it. The sportman a terrible decision on the
Olympic team. The scheduling early, even though they knew she
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was coming out and probably going to be a number
one pick a year earlier. About the time they were
making schedules was ridiculous. And now Indiana's on fire. Caitlin
Clark's like a seventeen eight and six player. She's getting
better by the week. She says the right stuff at
the podium. She's there's nothing about her you don't like.
And it's like, now you make he made a big
(04:00):
mistake the first time, not putting her on the Olympic team.
Don't double down on dumb. Get her on the team.
Give us a reason to watch the Olympic women's team.
You guys win gold every year. Your competition's week, you
win it every year. Give us a reason quadruple your
television ratings with her promoting not only the other women
(04:23):
on the team that could get endorsements, but promoting your sport.
There's a reason that top movie stars and top athletes
use the same four or five agents because they can
handle it. They don't get overwhelmed. Women's basketball is felt overwhelmed. Here.
You got your Connor McGregor, your baseball, You got your
Bryce Harper. You know it's very You got your Messy
(04:46):
in the MLS. You put him on TV. You know,
the whole salary cap in the MLS. It's funny they
got Messy into the MLS. The guy makes more than
some of the teams. They figured out a way to
get him into the MLS. The weren't precious and rigid
and so listen. In basketball terms, this is a layoff.
(05:07):
In NBA terms, it's a slam dunk. If you can
get her on the Olympic team. You miss the first time,
do it the second time. You're doing yourself a favor.
Don't get in the way of yourself. Don't jump over
a twenty dollars bill to get to a five. As
they say, you screwed up the first time, don't screw
up again. Get her on the Olympic team. Diana Tarassi,
(05:30):
by the way, has been a huge, ardent supporter of
Caitlin Clark. She wouldn't mind it all right, So I
saw this. NFL executives, NFL coaches, NFL scouts ranked the
top ten quarterbacks going into this league. By and large,
(05:51):
I not only agree with the list, but I mostly
agree with the order. Mahomes one, Burrow two, Allen three,
Lamar four, Matt Stafford five, Justin Herbert six, C. J.
Stroud seven, cross your fingers on health. Aaron Rodgers eight,
Jared Goff nine, Dak Prescott ten. Nine of ten I
agree with. I would not have Dak Prescott in the
top ten. This feels like fear people around the NFL.
(06:17):
They're fearful of the regression you may see with Jordan Love.
I'd love to see another four or five games. Jordan
Love is better than Dak. You did watch a twenty
seven to nothing lead in Dallas with a much younger
team full of guys one in two years out of college.
He's more fluid, he's got a better whip as an arm,
(06:39):
he moves better, fewer injuries. I mean, it wasn't close.
Dak in that game looked anxious, he looked overwhelmed. He
wasn't very accurate. He missed open receivers. You can't watch
that game and tell me Dak is more talented raw
talent than Jordan Love, and Jordan Love has better coaching,
(07:02):
and he's got better arsenal of weapons at tid end
and wide receiver. Jordan Love's going to be better than
Dak Prescott. Folks, how long do you have to see something?
How long do you have to watch a movie before
you're like this stinks? I always think that when I
watch movies. If you can't get the first twelve to
fifteen minutes right, I'm out. That's all I give a
(07:23):
Netflix or an Amazon Prime show. I'm going to give
you eight to twelve minutes. That's your shot to get me.
If you watch a Narcos, you know, if you watch
a mind Hunter, you can tell from the writing ten
minutes in this is a good series. If you can't
get me in the first eight what's the middle of
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it going to look like? What's the ending going to
look like? How many years do you have to see
Dak be really great in the regular season against bad
teams in his division. He doesn't beat good teams because
against good teams you have to be better and more
precise and elevate team mates. If you go look at
last year's final ten starts, including the playoffs, Jordan Love
(08:06):
was outstanding. Third in the entire league in completion percentage,
first in touchdown interception ratio. That's with kids at wide
receiver and tight end kids and a young old line.
First in passer rating twenty six hundred yards. I think
this is this is fear about. Well, I could go backwards.
(08:27):
I trust the Packers on quarterbacks. Here's the other thing.
Think about the quarterbacks. You know you tend to think, well,
it takes a while. Takes a while if you look
at the star quarterbacks. You can go to the first
camp of Mahomes and video was leaking out of some
of his side arm stuff the first member week eleven,
(08:49):
Lamar Jackson justin Herbert's first game, c J. Stroud's first game,
Joe Burrows first half, Kyler Murray's first four or five
game games. You can spot talent early. I say this
on all these music shows, the Voice, America's got talent.
How long does it take you to go, oh wow,
(09:09):
that doesn't sound like everybody else. Eight seconds. You don't
have to watch that much quarterback play now. Jordan Love
sat for years. I said this forever. I had more
footage of bigfoot. His first three years in Green Bay,
you didn't even get practice footage, so I had no idea,
and I thought he had a terrible September, but by
late October you're like there's something there, and by November
(09:31):
you're like, wow, okay, yeah, that's a first round quarterback.
So if you're watching Jordan Love in Dallas last year
and you're watching Dak it wasn't even particularly close. More rawability,
more fluid, better whip, better movement, not putting him in
a top ten right now. It's fear based. And I
think if you really are honest with CJ. Stroud and
(09:52):
Burrow and Mahomes and Lamar, even Josh Allen was a
little choppy early because of the turnovers, his talent was
completely unmistakable. You could not watch Lamar or Josh Allen
early first couple of starts and not go wow, But
these people waiting for Daniel Jones to pop, folks, it's OVA,
(10:13):
it's Ova. It doesn't work. That's why when you're watching
Hard Knocks on HBO Max with the Giants they wanted
to move up and get Drake Maye, it's over. You
don't have to watch a movie for an hour and
a half to figure out if it's any good. All right,
Diana Russini is joining us next hour. Derek Jeter's on
the show today as well. J Mack was over there
(10:33):
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My wife's been there. I have not. We're gonna go
there in the next nine ten months. Supposed to be amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
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Netherlands played England. Oh wow in the eras they were
playing in Germany. But every bar, just the streets are mobbed,
people excited. It was great London. There's some Herd fans
in London. I did not expect that, but the shows
big over there.
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You know, I've thought about this a lot. If I
was a pro athlete and uh, you know, let's say
I was playing in the NFL and I was a
non quarterback. I was a linebacker, an interior lineman, you know,
your shoulder surgeries, your knees in a very physical position.
I would understand just saying listen, I'm going to go
play for a bad team. I got a short career.
(12:17):
I'm going to take the most money, give me, give
me tax benefits. If I was a quarterback, I want
to win. That's differently and you don't get hit as much.
But if I was in one of these sports like
baseball where you can play forever, or basketball where almost
no careers for non centers are cut short due to injuries, like,
(12:39):
I want to win games. The seasons are so long.
I don't want to get on a team plane forty
five times a year and go get my brains beat
in because I you know, I want a bad team.
But I took another thirteen million dollars. No, thank you.
I want to play a winning team. I want to
get on that plane having won another game six of seven.
You know how much fun it would be to play
for the Boston Celtics right now? How much fun that
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would be getting on a plane for a six game roadie. No,
you're gonna win five and maybe all six that you
don't have to carry your team. You can have better teammates.
Do you know what's fun it would be to play
for the Dodgers or the Phillies these days? And how
awful it would be to play for a bottom end
team and all those sports. Football is different, especially if
you're in the trenches, or you're a linebacker, or you're
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a running back. Austin Eckler broke, get your money, play
wherever you got to play. You're a smaller athlete, you
take a beating, take your money. But I thought Jalen
Brunson's in one of those sports basketball where you're better
off playing for a winner, and he could have taken
one hundred and thirteen million more dollars. And Jalen Brunson said,
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I love New York, I love my teammates, I love
my coach, I love the city, and I think we
have a chance to be great over the next four
to five years. And so he put pen to paper
this weekend, he gave up more. I still made one
hundred and fifty seven million dollars, but he gave up
more money over one hundred million, than any NBA player
ever has. It should be noted Tom Brady gave up
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tens of millions of dollars to be the goat. Tom's
not the goat because of what he made. Kirk Cousins
end of his contract in Atlanta will have made more.
When you go to Canton or Springfield. Nobody ever says,
as you go to the podium, you were the highest
paid guy in twenty sixteen. For a month, they say
you were great. And Jalen Brunson, this is what leadership
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looks like. Because of the new CBA, it gives the
Knicks big advantages going forward. This is what Bosh Wade
and Lebron did in Miami. It's what Kadie did to
the Warriors, It's what Brady did, and Mahomes has done
a little bit of it in Kansas City. Jalen Brunson,
as I've said from the beginning, he's got self awareness, intelligence,
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he gets it. The big picture is the Knicks, because
there's two Major League Baseball teams and two NFL teams
in New York, but nobody cares about the Nets. It
is a Nicks city. Did you see that city explode
last year? With Jalen Brunson. He is the best quarterback
in that city. And these Villanova guys, they're different. They're
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in it for the right reason. That's why there's a
term Villanova guy in the NBA. And there's a lot
of great programs, but that's a term and it means
more than basketball. It's stayed in school, practice, hard play, defense,
great teammates. Jalen Brunson's the ultimate Villanova guy. And then
they went and got in Michale Bridges, a really equally
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talented Villanova guy. And you know, the young media is
just it's constantly whenever you see people talking about get
the back. Whenever I see somebody in my business and
their salaries out there, or an athlete salaries out there.
It's out there because you want it out there. That's
all ego. Jalen Brunson. He didn't have a problem showing you, Yeah,
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I took one hundred and thirteen million dollars left. My
agent can release it. I took less. And that's what
leadership looks like. How are you gonna spend all that
money anyway? Jalen Brunson's got another nine years in this league.
He could be one of these guys at the end
of his career. People just want him in the room.
People just want him in the locker room. He can
be one of these backup quarterbacks that makes fifty million
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dollars in the last eight years of their career being
a backup did Jacoby Brissett. People want him in the room,
Josh McCown, Chase Daniel, you just want him around the team.
But I love this move by him. I think it
helps the Knicks. There have been a lot of Knicks
pseudo stars in my life. This kid's a star. Nothing
illustrates your commitment to winning in salary cap sports by
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taking a little less stop with it, get the bag. Nonsense,
Get the title, get the wins, get the conference championships.
Nobody in Springfield or Canton when you go to the
podium cares what you made. They care that you were
part of something special. The Pistons, MJ's Bulls, Kobe shack Laker,
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who knows what they made? Who cares what they made?
The teams were special, and the leaders in sports get it.
And Jalen Brunson remains the best quarterback in New York
and the best star they've had since Patrick Ewing. J
Mack with the news, No, no tar on the news.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
This is the herd line news. All right, let's start
with soccer.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Spain and England a thriller in the Euro Final yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It was scoreless at the half.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Spain scored first early second half, England answers, and you
know we're expecting, Okay, finally England's going to.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Break through the time out.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
They're finally going to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
They haven't won a major title since nineteen sixty six.
But of course Spain scores a great goal in the
eighty six minute and they win. Christfallen for my English friends.
This is a phenomenal gamest.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Of all the environment in the Euro Oh gosh, yeah,
it was both the Copa and Euro set records for Fox.
The environment in this game it felt like a World
Cup final. It was insane. It is their NFL, and
the intensity and the passion and the quality of it
was just top show.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And if you're watching that and just know a lot
of the players from both those teams are very young. Yes,
they're going to be here on us soil in twenty
six for the World Cup. Spain's got two amazing young guys.
The teenager Jamal.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Is just he's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I was rooting for England Conley just so the leads
a bridesmaid. Whoever the run, they can never pull.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It off well and it listened it It's like the
Buffalo Bills there is You think England, you think of
high quality, but you don't think of championships. I mean,
Argentina felt like until recently they went forever that we
were for years and years, a decade we were talking
about Argentina, how could you be that good? Well, now
they've won a Copa a couple of times, they've won
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a World Cup. Eventually, you know, eventually, if you have
a Josh Allen or you have a messy Eventually you do.
Sometimes it's at the end of their careers, not at
the beginning. But it's like Argentina now is on fire.
England's lost to really good clubs and really good stars.
It's not anything more than that.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And for everyone who.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Says, hey, oh the US will never be as good
as some of these teams, I just want to my people.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
England hasn't won anything in forever. Anything.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
They're making runs, they're going place it, but they're not.
They're coming up short. Like the US would obviously kill
for a spot to go this far, to go as
far as England did.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I thought it was what I really noticed. And again,
ratings are truth serum. The WNBA and the Euros and
COPA all got are getting great ratings. So you can say,
you know, why are you talking about it? If you
turn on a television over the last three weeks and
you watch the Euros or COPA, I mean, the European
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quality is just the passion is insane, the quality of skill.
I thought it just jumped off and I was gone
for sixteen seventeen days. The only stuff I watched was that.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, when we were in Europe, the only thing we
watched was soccer. There was no like you turn on
the TV and it's like BBC News and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Like we didn't watch anything.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It was just how big was it over there? Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's everything.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Everywhere you go it's England gear. People are all geeked out.
It was fucking my kids. It was eye opening for them,
a really really good time. Just bump for England. Happy
for Spain, which you know was the better team. Next
story is Copa America Colin this game last night, another
phenomenal soccer match on Fox. Messi did leave early with
an injury. Yeah, Argentina wins it. Here's a goal in
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the one hundred and twelfth minute in extra time. This
kid Martinez, who's just a goal scoring machine, led the
tournament in goals.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You feel gutted for Colombia.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
There was a lot of sideshow stuff with this match,
with people crashing the gates and getting in there. Listen,
soccer fans are passionate and were Columbia.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You generally have fewer games, you know, and every other
in the world you have more opportunities to watch in soccer.
I mean, there are times that it feels like the
United States fans national team disappears for six months right now,
they don't have a coach, So I mean, soccer fans,
let me defend them. The games there's more scarcity, so
the games are all big. Even the friendlies feel big. Yeah.
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So it's how many big football or soccer matches do
you have in a year? If you're Columbia or Argentina,
I mean big and a lot of people that the
entire countries they got one team. So I'll defend soccer
fans when you have a scarcity of games. It's a
little bit like college football fans. I mean like until recently,
you played like twelve games and maybe three big ones.
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When I work down in the South, when the Bagos
were showing up to Gainesville on Wednesday, and I was like, wow,
well you only get about three great home games a year.
If you're a Gator fan or a seminal fan, like
big Gebama's in town, Georgia's in town, you spend five
days getting ready.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
For I will say that messy injury was a massive bummer,
and you know he was crying when he left. The
ankle injury was pretty gruesome. It's weird when they showed
the fans Argentina fans when Messi left, you know, sixty
fifth minute, they were crying. In the States, you don't
see that in any other sport. Like Patrick Mahomes gets hurt,
people are concerned and nervous, but nobody's actually reduced to tears.
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These fans were devastated, like, oh my's just the last
time I'm going to see Messi. It was it was special.
Messi's not going to retire, I don't think so yet,
but man, he's banged up.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
He is, But don't you think he'd be in the
World Cup.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Well, Ronaldo seems to think he's gonna still play with Portugal,
and I mean Messi.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I don't think Messi's retiring. I think he's too electric still,
like it was just awesome. Yeah. Yeah, Athletes get injured
as they get older. Aaron Rodgers could retire today. He
wants to play.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know, soccer is a young man's game. And he
didn't have a great phenomenal Kopa.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
His one goal was kind of.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
A reflection that shouldn't have been his. But listen, I
hope we see Messi in the World Cup in twenty
six but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I'm that would be the great way. They just won
the last one. That would be a great way. One
more great run in the world.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You think Fox in the US would love for war go.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Final story is NFL.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
We're getting closer to the debut of Caleb Williams or whatever,
like eight weeks away. The offense has made a lot
of changes this offseason will center around the rookie QB
tight end. Mercedes Lewis, your guy thinks Caleb has what
it takes to be successful.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
From a talent Stanford, he has everything it takes to
be great. I think it's the perfect offense for him
to come in right away to be successful. What I'm
looking for out of him is just to be humble,
listed twice as much as he speaks, and then naturally
guys are going to gravitate towards I have no doubt
that you know he's going to go out there and
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do us today. Us as a team, we have to
get better and elevate our games up so that it
is an easy transition.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
So I'm looking for.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
To Unlike Caitlin Clark uh, the Bears have kind of
a layup at home against the Tennessee Titans in the
opener September eighth.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
They don't play the Packers. See, this is the difference
between the WNB and the NFL. The NFL looks at
Caleb Williams and the Bears, major market rookie sensation. They
don't play the Packers until Week eleven. They make sure
those are tough games, right, you got love Lafleur, like,
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you don't want to you don't want to open with
green Bay and go oh one to one. They give
them a week team first week going up north. They
give the Bears a great opportunity to win. That's the
difference between the NFL and the WNBA. They saw they
knew a year almost, you know, because of the Carolina
Chicago pickswap. They knew Chicago to have the number one pick.
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They knew Caleb would be the number one guy. So
the NFL, you know, nine months out, knew who was
going to go number one, probably a year out, and
they're like, we're going to make sure that Bear schedule.
They open it home as a favorite, and they don't
have to do the onslaught of Detroit and green Bay,
especially Packer stuff until later in the year when Caleb
has grown.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Now, the interesting thing is My guess is Caleb has
a good game against Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Tennessee's got a lot of newness.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, you know, they did pick up Sneed in the offseason,
who's obviously very good.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
But I think the Bears win this. Caleb looks pretty good.
I'm guessing yes, Week two, Caleb Williams versus c J.
Stroud in prime time.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
By the way, do you think that that's gonna get it?
Do you think that's a coincidence? But we or that
we have last year's great rookie quarterback and this year's
great rookie quarterback. Yeah, So the NFL in Week two says, Okay,
let's put last year's stud quarterback against this year stud quarterback.
The NFL first two weeks for the Bears, that's all orchestrated. Hey,
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I've said this, if I'm paying for March Madness, I'm
not gonna pick the teams, but I gotta make up
the seating chart at the wedding if I'm picking up
the bill. So the NFL gives you a home opener
in Chicago in a beautiful day, you should win, and
then c J Stroud week two. So you're taking the Bears,
which are a bad team and you're making their first
two games fascinating.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
And then it's listened Colts, Rams Panthers that those aren't.
You don't want to get too excited if you're there.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Those are winnable games.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But there is a world where they're three and two,
four and one right out of the gate, and it sink, Okay,
we got we got something.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But you and I both love this. The NFL really
really understands they're a TV show more than any league.
I mean, they gave that bear schedule incredible thought to
start that. Now they may go oh and two in
those games possible, but they set them up to succeed.
The WNBA had the fever playing Connecticut New York.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
They go one and eight, the worst team in the league.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You knew a year out. Caitlin Clark's going to Indiana.
What are you doing? J Mack with the news?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Well that's the news. Thanks for stopping by The herd.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Line News Diana Russini. Next hour, Derek Jeter stops by.
I'm glad you're into the So we talked yesterday briefly
or don't forget Colin Wright, Colin wrong. Thirty five minutes
from now, we talked about this soccer And you know,
I was talking to a friend, Danny Parkin yesterday in
my podcast and I said, when I got into this business,
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I didn't want to work at the NFL network. I
love college football, but there was about a ten year
window where college football got incredibly regional. It felt like
it was Clemson Alabama for about eight years. That's not good.
And I'm doing syndicated, that's not good. If I was
a talk show host in Atlanta, I'd be great, right,
But it's like, what's really happened over the last year.
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WNBA's exploded college football by you know, ending the Pac
twelve and putting their four Western teams in the Big
Ten and then putting Texas Oklahoma in the SEC. It
feels a little bit more like pro football. That you
and I nothing against the NFL network, but that's not
where we want to work. The WNBA is a regular
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topic college football. Our bosses here think ratings will be
up fifteen percent for the sport. It's like college football
has been reborn with all these moves. Everybody was reticent
to all these moves. Everybody freaked out. The PAC twelve
is dying. I'm a PAC twelve. Guy, you're gonna tell me,
go look at the Big Ten schedule this year. There's
gonna be Saturdays where you're getting like you're waking up
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in the morning to Penn State, you know, Iowa, then Oregon,
Ohio State, then Washington Michigan, like three and four games
in a row. You're really losing sleep because the Oregon
State Washington State game is not gonna happen anymore, like
wake up. This is great, But I think what's happened
between the emergence of soccer in this country, between Caitlin
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Clark and these moves to expand the SEC and the
Big Ten, it's given us like a reboot to our
summer programming, things to talk about. And I just think
for you and I, if we wanted to work at
the NFL network would be one thing. And I love
the NFL, but you know, six months of my life
it's NFL talk, So I think it's it's really been
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refreshing to watch the Caitlin Clark story. I've said it,
she's like Taylor Swift for women's basketball. They don't quite
know how to handle her. They're bailing water. It's Ticketmaster
with the Era Tour they know what quite what to do.
But it's so good for our business that I'm genuinely
on a weekend like you. I'm like, oh, it's Caitlin
Clark play.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
And by the way, hey, if the US, I know
they're in the hunt for a coach right now. So
if Southgate, the coach of England, gets dumped, they do
not like him. The fans over there, Oh Southgate's the worst.
He actually did good subbing in the semifinal and final.
If they dump him and the US grabs him, Colin,
that is huge for US soccer.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
We got the coach of England coaching US.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I mean, nobody liked Burlter here. I know you were
a bur Alter defender.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Now I won sixty nine percent of his game he did.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
He want a lot. I think this coaching search is fascinating.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
We know they struck out with their number one option,
but I don't think soccer's totally done this summer.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'll just say that with the US coaching search, it is.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Don't you think it's interesting though? Years ago you formed
a company. That's how we met is that you tend
to be more of a windshield guy than a rearview
mirror guy. We're both the same way. I'm kind of
bored by yesterday fascinating by tomorrow. And it is interesting
how often new things freak people out, and so like,
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you know, the Big ten expansion, everybody freaks out. Then
six months later you're like, this is amazing. The schedule
is amazing. And the Caitlin Clark Angel Reese when they're
fighting early, everybody's freaking out. No, it's created a rivalry.
This is amazing. Don't be terrified of new stuff. I
don't like that Burrhalter was let go, but if they
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snagged the coach of England, then it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
By the way, how many twelve team playoff? When does
that start?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
This year?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Twelve team playoffs?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
As opposed to what they used to have, Like, it's
just got college football is gonna be croud.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
We used to decide college We used to decide college
football champion with a poll of sports writers. Not great.
I think one year years ago Penn State went like
thirteen and oh and didn't win. It could have been
in the seventies or eight. I forget what the year was,
but it was. I mean it just they split the title.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
One year in the early nineties.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
One Washington in Miami, Washington was better, but.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Washington Miami megan.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, it was Washington in Miami Huskies and that was
the best Husky.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
And it was just like, what are we doing, We're
just deciding a title of votes.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I uh, yes, good stuff today. Don't forget Colin Wright,
Colin wrong top of our number two.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
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Speaker 1 (31:45):
We were getting into this discussion this morning Jay Mack
about winnings not comfortable and Bill Belichick. For years, you know,
it was all about sacrifice. Everything's for the team. And
then there were quotes out there that an urban Meyer
had relayed this that he had talked to Belichick, and
Belichick said, after five or six rings, I only want
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to coach certain types of players. Well, winning isn't comfortable.
Sometimes you have crappy players, sometimes you have a coach
on the staff you don't like. And that Bill wanted
to be comfortable more than he wanted to win. And
the greatest football coach ever got run, got run out
of the city. I mean, think about how great Bill was.
Four years later, Exit stayed right because Bill wanted he
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sought comfort over winning, and that We were talking about
this with Aaron Rodgers this morning. Aaron, he was always
about winning and then all of a sudden, now it's like, well,
I want Randall Cobb on the team and Alan Lazard
and Nathaniel Hackett. No, that's comfort, that's not winning. Do
you want to win? And by the way, it's all
(32:56):
you know, like, do you think Tyreek Hill made Patrick
mahomes job easier? Of course he did. Of course he did.
Lollipop throws down the field or touchdowns. Comfortable isn't winning.
They had to move off that salary, got a bunch
of draft picks hit on several and so Belichick pivoted
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from all about winning to mostly about comfort. He got fired.
Is Aaron doing that in Green Bay? So Aaron wrapped
up this weekend. He was playing some celebrity golf stuff,
and you know, he talked about he had a really
good off season. And you know, part of me really
likes Aaron that he pushes back on authority. I don't
have to agree with his vaccine take. I think it
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can be a little kooky and conspiratorial, But you know what,
I like people that push back. I think we should
push back on our government. I think this weekend we
should push back on our secret service. What happened to Trump.
We should push back. That's regrettable, egregious to have those
lapses in our secret service. I think we all should
question government and authority. So part of me really likes
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that part of erin though I don't know what's agree
where he's going, but he talked about going into this
season in New York and he's wrapped up his summer.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
My Achilles feels good. I felt really good at the
end of last year. Then there's kind of a you know,
there's always that kind of plazau part. It's just about
getting back into it. I felt good, off Spring had
a nice OTA's had a beautiful trip to Egypt. And
this is like the last marker Summer's over on Sunday
Walking of eighteen is like super bittersweet.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But it's interesting as Aaron has sought a little more comfort,
I want my guy Natt Hackett, Randall Cobb, Alan Lazart
as he has sought comfort. Remember he did this at
the end in Green Bay two. He's not winning as
much like Belichick, and it's interesting it's not that long ago,
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not that long ago that many people in the media
and a lot of fans were saying Aaron's better than Brady.
This was about six years ago. Now, some of those
people are not serious. Those are unserious people. And I
never bought into it. He's prettier to watch than Tom.
He's got a better arm, you know, it's very Merino like.
It's a beautiful, beautiful ball comes flying out of his
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hand like a seed. There's no question about that. Esthetically,
it's beautiful, prettier than Tom. But it's interesting. Now, forget
being better than Brady. The way it's ending, is he
better than Farv. Farv got some more super Bowls. Forget
the fact that Farv was more beloved. That I mean,
Farv was like middle American ethos. People loved Farv, loved
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far We've always been. You know, Aarin's a bit more
aloof So FARV has more Super Bowls. FARV has a
better playoff win percentage. FARV has more come from behind
playoff wins in the fourth quarter. FARV also went to Minnesota,
and if you remember his first year, Farv was insane
thirty three touchdown, seven picks, sixty eight percent completion percentage.
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Farv was unbelo in Minnesota. He was third or fourth
in the MVP voting. They were twelve and four. He
got a play from the Super Bowl next year. He
was hurt, but he was unbelievable. So if this jet
thing sputters out, I mean, I always thought Aaron was
better than Farv. But with movies and sports, the ending
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can matter. If it's choppy and it's close, it doesn't matter.
With Michael Jordan it wasn't close. He was the best player.
But if we're talking FARV and Aaron Rodgers, and Farv's
ending is Minnesota, and this jet thing sputters, But it
is interesting. Bella Check at the end sought comfort over winning.
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He wanted to win, but it was comfort. Same guys
on the staff. He wouldn't bring in anybody new on
the staff. It was a lot of re treads. Let's
get Matt Patricia back. In fact, let's put Matt on
the offense. I only want to draft certain players that
is not winning. And so when I look at Aaron,
my take is this year really matters to him in
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his legacy Because Bart Starr's got two Super Bowl wins,
Farv's got more Super Bowls. What is Aaron number three?
You say to yourself, No, let me ask you. I mean,
think about this. He didn't have a great last year
in Green Bay. Jordan loved this morning is better. Appears
to be better. The Jets have a makeshift offensive line
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in a much tougher conference. He went from the NFC
in a week. Remember most of his career Detroit and
Chicago were nonsense. Now he's in a better division. Clearly,
Buffalo is the better team. Miami's the more dynamic offense.
You know he's got He's got two wins over the Patriots.
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But it is interesting. It wasn't that long ago people
were arguing he's better than Brady. He's a regular season hero.
But this matters. This season matters for Aaron. I know
you're rolling your eyes, but you're rolling your eyes, but
you start looking at Belichick. There were certain coaches he
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wanted to work for.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
He wouldn't go.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
On the market. He wanted to go back and get
Bill O'Brien, Matt Patricia. There were a lot of young
aggressive There are a lot of Demico Ryan's out there.
You could interview. He didn't. That's not what he wanted.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
So I'm a little late.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I'm assuming you talked about the Devonte Adams stuff last week, right,
So remember two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
All the story Rare Rogers is no leader.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
He wasn't there, he was in Egypt, he missed all
this time with the Jets. He comes back and in
full calculating fashion. Oh, I can't wait to play with
Deavante Adams again. I'm at Big Ben touring, you know,
in London, and I get this sticks. Do you think
we could get Devonte Adams? I was like, I have
no idea what this my buddy's talking about, and I
just I just know Rogers.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
He's quickly shifted the narrative.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Did you notice that almost overnight it's DeVante Adams and
now it's comfort And I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Rounding out my golf season starts basically at the end
of this tournament. I'm ready to go. Colin.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
You just said the word super Bowl in the same
sentence as Aaron Rodgers. Okay, do you are you ready
to put them back in the bubble?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
No? No, I don't buy it at all. I don't
definitely know. Well, I think they have I think Buffalo
is going to win the division again, I think Miami's
a more dynamic offense.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Do you see by the way Pro Football Focus ranked
offensive lines in the league.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Did you see where the Jets is this season?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I know overrated.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
They have over their fifth because they got two dudes
at tackles who were incredible last year. They got guys
coming back healthy. I think it's start time to start
warming up to the Jets and Rogers.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I will say they're gonna win the division, that's for sure.
Now they're not lock it up the two teams in
the league. I'm fascinated to watch. And this is a
lot of why we love the NFL as quarterback play.
I was a baseball fan when I was a kid,
and somewhere in the mid eighties, maybe I don't know
who it was, it was Ken O'Brien, No, that wasn't it.
But there was a handful of quarterbacks that you know,
(40:09):
late seventies, early eighties. It was Elmetway and Marino and
know whatever those guys are, And it was Bill Walsh's offense.
And I kind of pivoted to an NFL fan over
a baseball fan. But there are a lot of really
good young offensive minds at head coach Aaron doesn't have one.
There's a lot of good ones. He doesn't have one.
(40:32):
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