April 8, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin defends Caitlin Clark's greatness despite losing in the National Championship game again and ending her college career without any titles
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, it is a Monday in Los Angeles, and
there is a lot to talk about. It's the hurt
wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmack is
back off VAK. It's great to have him in today.
Where Colin right, Where Colin was wrong? One hour from now.
Caitlin Clark sort of a lot of times athletes ride
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a wave to the beach. She was the wave, She
was the momentum and the inertia, and she sort of
carried all of us on this magical ride which ended
up short. But I mean, you were on vacation everywhere
you go. I was at an airport yesterday and the
first half I was waiting to get on the plane
and I looked around, and I walked around where I
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was sitting waiting to get on the plane. Everybody, whether
it was Fubo or whatever device it was, everybody was
watching that game. I've walked around during a World Series game.
I've walked around during a w NBA Finals game. Not
every TV's on, every TV was. I don't know what
the number will be, but every in the airport, the
whole airport in Chicago was watching it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The only time we turned on a TV during spring
break was to watch the Caitlin Clark LSU game pool side,
like twenty five people, two TVs. It was crazy, like
people are obsessed and rightfully so.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah. Well, the better deeper team South Carolina won yesterday.
At one point they had a thirty to nothing advantage
in bench scoring. The better team generally beats the iconic
great star. I suspect tonight Ukon the better team will
beat the star Zach Edi and Purdue. Caitlin Clark plays
like Steph, but Steph got great players around him, Clay
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Kadi and Draymond. Her career is more like Luca in Dallas.
Is Kyrie enough a remarkable score but having to carry
a little too bit much of the load against the
truly great teams in South Carolina is the Yukon or
Pat Summitch Tennessee. Now they're really really good. MJ. Never
forget this. The best basketball player many believe ever. Could
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never get past Larry Bird and the Celtics, could never
get past Isaiah Thomas and the Pistons until he got
Phil Jackson, a great coach, maybe the greatest coach, and
he got Scottie Pippen, the greatest Robin ever in the NBA.
Lebron in Cleveland, the first iteration of Cleveland. He got
to the finals and got destroyed, swept by San Antonio.
The better team, the better coach, the better supporting cast.
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Individual greatness could be Tiger Woods or Serena has no ceiling.
You don't rely on others, maybe a caddy or a coach,
but it's about you. But Cristiano Ronaldi, perhaps the greatest
soccer talent of my life, with Portugal's talent, is not
going to win a World Cup. Give him French, French talent,
Germany talent, give him that level of talent surrounding him.
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He probably has multiple World Cups. Do not doubt, however,
Caitlyn Clark's remarkable talent. She has the qualities we love
with basketball stars, scores quickly, scores a lot, real toughness,
the vision, the ability to elevate others. But her career
at college ends like many icons do before they get
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a Pippin'. Kobe's career was stalled, then he got pau Gasol.
The better team beats the icon without great supporting staff.
Caitlyn Clark, though, the story here is bigger than that.
She carried a lot of things over the last couple
of months, largely women's basketball, the state of Iowa's economy,
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and my guess she will have an impact in the WNBA.
I doubt it's this significant, but she will have an
impact and certain people, men and women. Whatever it is,
you see it sometimes in movies in Hollywood, but that's
often make believe, and this was very real. It is
almost a magic dust. Is it invincibility, relatability, connectability, or
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just lots of ability, whatever it is, it was bigger
than basketball. Caitlin Clark sprinkled that dust over all of us.
And here's what they said after.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
There's not a regret in my mind of how things went.
I'll be able to sleep every night even though I
never won a national championship and I think that's the
thing about everything I've done, is like there's so much
to be proud of. I don't sit in sulk about
the things that never happened. I just you know, my
mom always taught me keep your head high, be proud
of everything that you accomplished. And you know, I think
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I'm still hungry for a lot more too.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I want to personally think Katelyn Clark for lifting up
our sport. She carried a heavy low for our sport
and it just is not gonna stop here on a
collegiate tour. But when she is the number one pick
in a WNBA draft, she's gonna she's gonna lift that
league up as well. So so Kaylyn Clark, if you're
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out there, you are one of the goats of our
games that we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
A lot of athletes, even great ones, ride the wave.
Caitlin Clark was the wave, all right. I've been told
the Washington commanders right now as of today, would choose
Jaden Daniels LSU quarterback as their top pick, and going
back and forth, I'm told they believe he's more consistent
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than Drake May, he is quicker, more mob than Drake May,
an offensive coordinator at Cliff Kingsbury who will have some
say in this, has had multiple quarterbacks in his collegeen
pro coaching career that play like him. Quarterbacks like Jaylen Daniels.
Jayden Daniels are important. They're very hyper mobile, right, and
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that matters a lot. Russell Wilson, Kyler, Murray, Lamar Jackson.
As you're trying to figure out the sophisticated NFL pocket
and all it asks, it gives you a couple of
years to pick up first downs and move the sticks
with your feet. Even Patrick Mahomes acknowledged the light didn't
truly go on until year three. But the ability to
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move Washington's got a bad offensive line, pick up first
downs with those feet as you're learning the game is important.
He is not perfectly sized. He's a bit spindily for
me six three, six, three and a half and two
ten and it is a bit of a concern. But
in the NFL you can't be paralyzed by perfect I
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remember listening to draft experts tell me that Justin Herbert
was just too mechanical. Yes, he is mechanical, that is
his one flaw. He's a bit mechanical. He could be
more creative. He's also six five and a half two
thirty with a huge arm and can move draft him.
You know, when you get relationships, could be a girlfriend, boyfriend,
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marriage company. There's no perfect. Stop seeking it. Stop nitpicking.
Jayden Daniels is really good at Arizona State. He's better
at LSU. He gets better every year. You need a quarterback.
If you look at the top quarterback prospects coming out
of college, they had red flags. I mean, Josh Allen
was inaccurate. Patrick Mahomes was wild. He was one of
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those big twelve air raid quarterbacks and none before him
had worked. Justin Herbert was mechanical. Some were asking about
Lamar Jackson, is he an NFL quarterback? And these are
the top guys. Forget the third, fourth, and fifth round
gets the top guys. It's very rare when you get
a Matt Stafford and everybody's like, yeah, big arm, big
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arm wins a lot, accurate and productive. Even Joe Burrow
people wonder can he push the ball down the field.
He's done just fine doing that. That His big issue
now is held so Aaron Rodgers. I'm reading part of
E O'Connor's new book which comes out in September on
Aaron Rodgers. One of the reasons he fell in the
draft people thought he was too arrogant. Yes, sometimes he is.
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He's also got a trophy, and that's what everybody's trying
to do here. So there's other things to consider. If
you have the number duo pick and you have a
defensive head coach in Washington, does defensive coaches hate turnovers?
Jayden Daniels doesn't turn the ball over. Last year he
had a ten to one touchdown to interception ratio. He
does not turn the ball over. The other thing to
think about, Washington's got a very weak offensive line. Well,
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pocket quarterbacks like a Jared Goff. You see how good
he is in Detroit with a good line, or in
the Rams when they had Andrew Whitworth. You saw him
before and Whitworth arrived in Los Angeles and the on
line was bad. Jared Goff was ineffective, so bad old line,
mobile quarterbacks matter, TD interception ratio. Fantastic defensive coaches like that.
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The offensive coordinator has worked with several college quarterbacks that
have had this style and been effective, and again he
just keeps getting better. That is a real thing. So
I'm told right now today that is who Washington likes.
It works with his mobility, he doesn't turn the ball over,
He's coachable and keeps getting better. Right now, Washington, Jaden
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Daniels at too good stuff today. I tell you that
Caitlin Clark story is fun A lot of times. Selfishly,
whenever I watch sports, I think about how does it
benefit my show? Because I'm on the air for three
hours a day, fifteen hours a week, you can do
the math. I have to fill a lot of space.
And one of the things I've said, even though I
don't necessarily love it for the sport, if the NFL
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extends to eighteen weeks and a second, it'll take me
all the way to NFL free agency seasonal end. I'll
talk about the Super Bowl. I'll take a week off,
I'll come back. They'll be eighteen NBA games left. It
makes my job easier. I hope women's basketball rides this
momentum and we can mix it in to our march topics.
I'm always looking for stuff outside of the NFL that
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moves the needle. It's why I love the Pac twelve
converging with the Big ten. So I get USC Washington, Oregon, UCLA,
along with Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State. I get
all those brands in one conference. I get Texas, Oklahoma
in the SEC with Bama, Georgia, LSU in Florida. I'm
looking for big and the more topics can fill a show.
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So anybody that fights fun or fights momentum. Caitlin Clark
is great for sports, great for Iowa, great for the WNBA,
great for my business. So selfishly, it's fantastic that we
have this tsunami of TV ratings for a sport that
got them back in eighty three was shared Bryl Miller,
and then's always been you know, from a sports talk show,
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radio host, TV host. It's kind of disposable. You talk
about it that I would love to have ten segments,
multiple leads in March April every year on this sport
and the other thing about women's basketball that men's college
basketball over the last decade has lost. It gives you chemistry,
and it gives you continuity. It gives you stories that
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are repeating. Remember ninety percent of the money in Hollywood
is remakes, right like this was a remake. It's Iowa
gets there and loses and the LSU Angel Reese story.
We all get caught up on this on the wrong stuff.
Angel Reese. She talked a little trash, she got a
little heat. She's gonna be great, She's fine. But the
bigger story was it was a rematch in boxing, UFC,
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Hollywood Sports. We like rematches, you argue and fight them.
But there were so many things that worked. I hope
this is what March and April looked like. Both the
men and women's college basketball programs can be big toppings.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I mean, Colin, we talk about the industry a lot
and how it's changed significantly in the last thirty years.
Do you know how hard it is to get people
to turn on a television. In twenty twenty four, you
got TikTok YouTube streaming service. There's so many options video games.
Yet for Kaitlin Clark, people are actively seeking out the game,
turning on a television that says something. When by the way,
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the Yukon team, some of these Yukon players taking jabs
the old w Yeah, they were getting like two million
viewers for the championship game when they were undefeated, like
thirty nine and two three million viewers. Yeah, Kaitlin Clark
is pulling seven eight times that number. Yeah, she gets
people to turn on a TV. We haven't seen that
in women's sports ever.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Tiger Woods got me, along with the Sopranos, to change
how I viewed Sunday television, right, Like Tiger Woods move
people to Sunday. I would be out usually doing things
and I was like, Oh, it's two o'clock, Tiger's making
the turn. We got to watch. There's very few athletes
that had Gretzky made hockey for a short time, like
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Cover of Sports, illustrated when it mattered, lead in the
news when it mattered bigger than basketball. Like there are
these athletes and a lot of its greatness. But there's
a magic dust too. I mean, daytime television eroded. Oprah
didn't she grew Whatever it is? Is it invincibility, connectability,
you know, a lot of ability, whatever it is. I
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don't know what the IT factor is. Part of it
is obviously a great player, but there's a lot of
great players in the KD is a great player. He
doesn't move TV ratings. Steph Curry is a great player.
He does move TV ratings. So it's hard to explain
what it was the first time I ever saw this
in my life, and I didn't know what TV ratings were.
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But when I was a kid, Muhammad Ali he was lyrical,
he had poems, he was his style, he was good looking.
It's just hard to explain what it is and people.
I mean, I've been trying to figure out kind of
what it is, but I've seen it happened about once
a decade. You get this magic dust sprinkled on a
sport and it's like, it's just join the wave, have
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fun and watching him.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
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John Calipari a very high profile basketball coach at one
of the highest profile basketball programs ever. Kentucky has bailed
on that school and he's going to Arkansas, which is
a second a third tier program, which was very good
recently thanks to another good coach who now has gone
to USC. John Calipari, I have mixed feelings about him.
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Always got very defensive and uncomfortable when you sort of
questioned his vision or I would call it his salesmanship,
and Kentucky got tired of it too, so he bailed
to a second tier basketball program. He had a great
recruiting pitch. It worked for a while. Many things do.
Dating works for a while, but eventually marriage. Even study
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show you'll live longer. It's better for you. But his
recruiting pitch, it landed top recruits, and those basketball prodigies
would spend a whopping five to six months with Calipari,
and he would brag, I make them rich in the NBA. Yeah,
but Kentucky fans want to be enriched in March and
his teams kept getting bounced in the first round again.
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Nick Saban, you spend three to four years. Nick could
change your life. Harbaugh could change your life. Great college
football coaches, Debosweeney can change your life in three or
four years. The ark of it, the direction. Nobody's changing
anything in six months. And those Wildcat recruits, let's be honest,
they would have been their basketball prodigies had they gone
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to Kansas, Syracuse, Yukon that had been rich in the
NBA as well. What I found out about Calipari, he's
got a vision. It worked briefly. It doesn't work anymore.
You can't win with eighteen year olds. Face Yukon and
Purdue and Carolina's twenty three year olds. You can't. And
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all Kentucky basically said was, Hey, John, we need more
from you in March. And that made John and his
sales pitch very uncomfortable. If I was Kentucky, I would
call Jay Wright and I would offer him whatever it takes.
He builds, He builds teams and builds young men, not
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recruiting rankings. Bill Belichick's the best football coach many believe. Ever,
his entire mantra was, we don't just collect talent. Recruiting
is a sales pitch. It's part of college sports, and
I respect it and respect how good Calipari was added.
But the truly great coaches have a second gear beyond
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the pitch, and I've yet to see it from Calipari,
who now bails on an all time program for a
fine program. There is a big difference. J Mack with
a news news.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Let's start with the Dallas Cowboys. Colin, I uh, I
get something went down over spring break while I was gone.
But Michael Parsons there's some stuff happening in Dallas. Apparently,
so Shan Shariffe of one oh five to three the
fan in Dallas says Michaeh. Parsons has worn thin on
people within the franchise.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
I have heard from way too many people this offseason,
way too many. I'm talking about at least at least
four different people.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That Micah has worn thin there.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I've heard from way, way, way, way too from way
too many people. If Micah Parsons was out of there,
there'd be a decent amount of people inside the Ford
Center at the Star in Frisco smiling or reading a
sigh of that is my hot take.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Well, listen, Jimmy Johnson traded herschel Walker at the time.
We thought you could not win in the NFL without
a great running back, and it is regarded as the
greatest heist in pro football history. You could get two
ones for Michaeh. Parsons as the league moves offensive again.
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I'll just throw it out there. You fall in love
with football players outside of quarterback. None are worth more
than a point. If somebody gave me two firsts for Michaeh. Parsons,
I mean, you better start hitting on draft picks because
you're gonna have to pay ceedee Lamb and dack of fortune.
And I'm not saying you have to move him. He's
an edge rush But I have watched in the NFL
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people fall in love with non quarterbacks. It's not winning
the Super Bowls. You win super Bowls two ways in
this league, with a top six quarterback or a quarterback
and a rookie deal where you can load the franchise
up highest paid receiver, highest paid edge rusher does not
win super Bowls. And if you're the Dallas Cowboys, isn't
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at the standard? Steelers have had TJ. Watt for years.
How's it working? Miles Garrett in Cleveland? How's it working?
I'm just saying, if this is true, can you not
consider it the idea that players are un tight, even
top quarterbacks. If you look at Kirk cousins numbers over
the last go look at Kirk Cousin's number over the
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last five years, He's second to Mahomes in multiple stats.
They moved often. There's only two ways to win the
Super Bowl. Superstar quarterback. There's six of them. Stafford Mahomes,
you know, Lamar, those kind of guys, there's six of them,
or a quarterback on the rookie deal like Houston's doing,
and you load up for about four years and I
know it sounds crazy. TJ. Watt, best dad rusher, best
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dad rushers today, Max Crosby, TJ. Watt, Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
So if Michah Parsons, Michael Parsons, I want to be
the highest paid defense edge rusher in the league.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You say, if I say, you know, I say, let's
sit and have a meeting and talk about it. I
like Micah Parsons. I think he's tremendous. But this is
not the NBA or international soccer where there is no
replacing Messy. You know, there is no replacing Lebron in
his prime because there is no.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
The problem is it's it's you can just say, oh,
well you need a quarterback, Okay, well good luck finding one,
and listen, they could be moving on from their coach
after this year. They could move on from Dak and
then like, is it an attractive job if you don't
have MICHAEH. Parsons and a couple of tenth pole players
on that roster.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Bever, this is not Caitlin Clark at Iowa, where the
TV ratings would shrink. She literally is Iowa Women's basketball.
This is Dak's team, This is a GM quarterback coaching league.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, how much better do the quarterbacks look on that team?
Member Diggs at a moment the kid Bland was exceptional?
How much better do they because Michaeh. Parsons is in
the quarterbacks face on every possession, like.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Not in any way trying to prove that Micah Parson's
isn't great. I am saying somebody would give you two
first round picks for him. Yeah, I'm not saying he's
not great, but I do think Dallas has big questions
to ask. Jerry loves Dak and they have to pay
CD Lamb. Dak without CD Lamb is a C plus
B minus. So it's like you're gonna pay if you're
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gonna pay Dak. And Dak has a lot of leverage
and go in his contract, He's got all of it,
no trade clauses, then you may have to consider getting
two first round picks. Cowboys have never been a terrible
draft team. They do draft pretty well.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So the other leg of this is Des Bryant has
weighed in on Twitter. Des Brian former Cowboy, and he's
saying that this is because uh, it's time to pay
Michah Parsons and the Cowboys are doing some Uh what's
the phrase that they used where it's like reverse psychology. Oh,
Michael Parsons is a problem. We don't, you know, like
putting it out there that man, this guy's kind of
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a problem. We don't want to pay him that much.
Trying to depress his value a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well, des Bryant was a pain in the bud. He was,
you know, that's why he left. And by the way,
had no market when he left. Michael Parsons would have
a massive market.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
It's interesting all these all these athletes with podcasts are
such problems for their organizations. Draymond Green, Now, Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Have you listened to that podcast? What a great podcast?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Draymonds is Next up the Houston Texans. They picked up
Stefan Diggs last week in a move that should shake
up the AFC hierarchy, but according to Adam Jefter, Houston
has wiped out the final three years of Diggs's deal,
giving him the ability to become a free agent after
this season. Now, this is another similar to Michael Parsons.
He was a headache in the locker room. Now we
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called this.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
For a while, right, Yeah, we knew this. I was
told a year ago. Josh Allen was over the drama.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
And I think if you guys rolled the tape from
two months ago, I think we even mentioned the Texans
because they got a quarterback on you did deal multiple time.
I don't know if it was me, but I'll take credit, sure.
I just don't know. Like he's kind of on the decline, right,
his numbers aren't what they were two years.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, I think this is a smart move by the Texans,
And so what the Texans are saying is we love
your talent. We'll pay a little more, but we're not
gonna be beholden or paralyzed to some of this drama.
If it encourgs. We've seen it happen twice, We're not
gonna let it happen a third time. You're gonna be
a free agent after the year. What we want for
a year is your greatness. So I think the move's smart.
If a player has a history, again, be one thing
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if he had a fight with a coach in one,
but we have two separate situations Minnesota and Buffalo where
he was productive. But there was a lot of drama
at the end. There was a lot of talk and
chatter inside. You know you were hearing. I mean, there's
a reason Minnesota moved on. There was some drama inside
the building. You're seeing it again, some drama. So Houston saying, hey,
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we like the production, don't We're not interested in the drama.
So let's wipe out three years, pay him a little more,
and get him one great year. And by the way,
Stephan's gonna play his butt off because a free agent
where you can make big money. So he'll have a
great year.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
He'll be a class act. I'm sure you guys did
it last week. I haven't even looked. But how bleak
is the Bills wide receiving core.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, they're gonna have to draft two. They don't have
a one or two. Yeah, but they but the but
they are excellent tight end and there'll be.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The two tight end sets.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yea sick and Kay. They excellent tight end. They finally
found a running back, Josh Allen's amazing, so you can
find talent. But they're gonna have to draft more than one.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Final story is the Milwaukee Bucks. Colin remember when they
fired their coach and added Doc Rivers. Every they's like Oh,
Doc Rivers is great. The Bucks are now fifteen and
seventeen since Doc Rivers took over the Bucks and now
lost four straight and they're losing to like the dregs
of the league, like the Raptors and really bad teams.
Here's Doc Rivers after Friday's loss.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
They're frustrated.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
I guess that's a good thing, but that's not gonna
get you anywhere. Frustration gets you nowhere. We got to
work ourselves through this. You can feel it, you literally can.
You can feel it. You can feel it during the game.
And you go through these things. I've been through them.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
You do.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
You gotta work yourself out of them. Even one in
the officials said it, man, you can feel that giving.
This is your team right now.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, well they are an old heavy team, so I
think it is. So. I saw they played the Knicks
and lost. I watched Jalen Bunsen Friday. I went to
the Knicks game in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh Knicks Bowls.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, how was it. Jalen Brunson is the best star
in New York's intoviewing. He's so good and by the way,
when you see him in person, dude, he is so clever.
He is so quick. He got nothing to work with now,
just a bunch of guys.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Who's guarding Crusoe?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
He throw a bunch of people at him. And the
bottom line is when you watch Jalen Brunson in person,
it's even better than you see the highlights like he
is really I mean, his quickness is really something to behold.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
So, you know, I go away for a week on
spring break with the kids. I didn't realize the Orlando
magic in the Knicks could surpass the Bucks for the
two seed? Is it that bad for Milwaukee? What the
hell are they gonna slip to the Ford? Look at
the numbers there.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I mean, we know the Cads are really this. You know,
we have talked about this on this show. Whereas you
called Stefan Diggs to the tech. I've been on this
for about six months. This is ending poorly. Doc's playoff
history isn't great. If they clunk in the East, I
do not believe. I think Dame was a bit of
a hail Mary, and so was Doc Rivers. An organization
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did this because they not me. They felt the heat.
That's why they got rid of a player they loved.
Drew Holliday It's why they moved up a coach with
a winning record. Milwaukee inside the building felt heat. What's
it gonna be when you get whacked in the first round?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Well, we got to see if they lose to Embeid
or the Miami Heat.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, they would lose to Philadelphia right now? Whoa Maxey.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Let's settle down Joel be Let's not get too excited
about Joel Embiid. Okay, Maxie did have like fifty last
time year. But I know Dave Lillard has to be happy. Man.
He was playing for the Blazers, so they went like
thirty games a year. He's number two seeds. They got
a legit chance.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Right. Do you think if Jannis loses in round one,
he's just gonna be like, you know what, We're all
good here.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Well, okay, so what are they gonna do? Fire the
coach again? You're gonna get rid of Doc Rivers. I
don't think you could trade Dame and get a haul.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I think you move Janis. Janis says, guys, I'm gonna
leave you eventually, go get a haul. Golden State come
to knock.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
If you have been pushing that for a while, wait,
Yannis to Golden State and the Warriors have.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
What is first round picks, Klay Thompson, expiring contract Jonathan
KAMINGA Moody. You restart the franchise, you probably they probably
want some Wiggins. You get a bunch of expiring contracts
and a bunch of draft pickers.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I love this idea that like Clay and you're.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Getting expiring contracts. So you have Dame Brook Lopez and
a lot of money and a lot of draft picks
and a lot of losses. You got a title out
of it, got a title.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't think you can trade a superstar Hall of
Famer in his prime, even if he asks that, you
got to do whatever you can to keep him on it.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It happened more than once.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I would feel bad for your city of Milwaukee. What
is a Dell's going to be a ghost town? I mean,
got you lose Yannis? Goodness great, it's over.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Dells will survive. Yanna's leaving. It's one of the nicest
malls in America, the Dells. H J. Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
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Line News.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
For somebody that's never listened to our show that turned
in today from Milwaukee. We know the Dell's is not
a mall. It's a running joke on our Little s O.
Terek Show, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong top of Next Hour.
I'm telling you, Jalen Brunson in person, you got to
go to games. Sometimes. Understand, you go to a you know,
you go and you'll see a guy at MLS or soccer,
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and then you go to the game and you're like, oh, wow, okay,
it's totally different. I remember going to watch Lebron in Miami.
So when I was in the East Coast, I'd go
down and watch Lebron in Miami and you'd watch Lebron
during the huddles, screaming at Mario toomers and coaching on
the sideline, and you'd watch him beat people to the basket,
and you're like, like television, you know, they say everybody
looks a little older and a little thinner, a little
(28:59):
heavier on TV. When you watch certain players in person,
that's why you gotta go to the games. It's like, Wow,
Kobe in person was so much better than other all
star level players in his prime. It just the baskets
were easier. He was more creative. Jalen Brunson's is a
big time All star.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
You just reminded me the Knicks have a war chest
of draft picks. Why don't they go after Yannis. Hey,
everything not nailed down, that's not Brunson, it's yours, every
draft pick, every guy on the rosters village. I would
take that over the world. The Wars don't have the pick.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
If you have Giannis and Jalen Brunson, that's that's Eastern
Conference finals lot for five years. I would do that
in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I got picks.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Ask yourself. The NBA has got two rounds of draft picks.
I mean, brawny average for a game in college, He'll
get drafted in the second round. And that's not a
knock on, and I go, I'm gonna defend him coming
up next. But the reality is the NFL has seven
rounds and half the league is undrafted. There's players everywhere
in basketball. After the fourteenth pick, you kind of run
out of players. I mean the realities, I'd give up
(30:00):
a ton and and anything to get Yannis if I
was the next Jalen Brunson is the best star in
New York since youing. He is way better than Mellow
in terms of commitment, effort elevating others. It's not even close.
I mean Mellow was getting his Brunson is the fact
they could beat Milwaukee without Julius Randall. They're just brunting
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out there, dropping forty plus. I'm telling you he is.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
So how are the Bulls looking your new team since
you're now a Chicago guy? Bears? Bulls?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
They got they got, they got the best hockey player
and now they're going to have the best quarter. Who's that? Connor?
I forget Nick? David what Bidard?
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Yeah? I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I don't know where you got any I'm just staring
at the cons my standings. Every morning when I get up.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I know more about college women's college hoops.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
That I do.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
An a tent, I think the America does that?
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Speaker 1 (32:04):
The you know, polarizing people make some people lose their minds.
And I saw this story come up last week. Brownie
James who played at USC average about five points a game.
Athletic kid gotten better as a shooter. Remember he had
that cardiac arrest, So there's there's been kind of an
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ascension since that. It's been a slow build. He entered
the NBA Draft, and there's those that suspect that the
Lakers would be interested or a team would be interested
drafting Brownie James to attract Lebron. For all of those
that are bothered by that, you haven't seen this in
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college football recruiting, when you sign a marginal player from
a high school because there's a great player at the
high school the following year, sometimes you sign a cousin
or a brother of a great player who's a marginal player. Colin,
the only reason he would get drafted is because his
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dad is Lebron, sort of the same reason you got
into law school because your dad went there. You know
how many people have asked me that I know through
the years, can you get my kid an internship at
Fox Connections matter? They always have. The Lakers aren't moving
up to the lottery to draft him. He's not that
kind of player. But I called one NBA scout over
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the weekend and he said, smart kid, hard worker. He'd
be a good player on a great team full of
smart guys. He'd bring him off the bench. He is
getting better as a shooter. He is athletic, all right.
I mean, the NBA's got two rounds of draft picks.
Outside of your occasional Jokic, Draymond Green, a lot of
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guys drafted in the second round that disappear into the ether.
If it energized Lebron, if it got Lebron to your city,
I mean, I was thinking about this. Lebron is of
can get one hundred and eighty million dollar max contract.
The Lakers could give him that. If Brony got drafted,
he'd make a million dollars in the second round. So
essentially you'd be paying Lebron one hundred eighty one million,
(34:15):
not one hundred eighty million. Dan Hurley's son, he's on
the bench for you, kon who cares. It's cool Dad
and son. Jannis's brother never had to start for the
Milwaukee Bucks. He's on their bench. If it gave Lebron
energy and the Lakers sign him, Lakers have plenty of
length they could use athletic young shooters. Bronnie James, an
(34:41):
ascending player. You know when I sometimes I see you know,
every time you drive down the freeway and you see
a plumber's truck. You ever notice it's like Johnson in Sons. Oh,
dad's handing off the business. How are the Lakers owned
the dad passed away and gave it to his kids? Like,
(35:01):
I'm sorry, But the same people outraged by connections are
the ones that constantly seek getting their kids ahead through connections,
an internship here, getting into a college they don't quite
qualify for here. Yes, it's the way the world works.
It's okay. Brownie isn't a dynamic playmaker. It's not what
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he is. His dad is. That's okay. Sometimes the kid
is better than the dad, Barry Bonds or Ken Griffy Junior,
and that happens. Sometimes the kid is better. A lot
of times the dad is better and the kid gets
drafted because of the dad, or the kid can get
an opportunity because of the dad. Okay, okay, Lakers aren't
(35:44):
giving away the future for Brownie. But again, I called
a scout one and he said, an athletic kid, he's
getting better because of the physical thing he had. It's
been a slow build, slow process. He'll enter the transfer portal,
somebody will probably pick him up. The transfer portal would
but you know the idea, anybody is now outraged because
(36:04):
the Lakers would consider it, you know, with the I
think it's the fifty fifth pick who cares. Everybody's helping family,
who cares. So I saw that this is an interesting
kind of a cautionary tale. There is a big difference,
and I like both between the football culture, which is
about winning development, and about the basketball or international soccer culture.
(36:30):
Our basketball culture, in my opinion, is broke. It's more
about worshiping the player and not developing the player. But
that's another angle. But ob J is a possible destination
for the Miami Dolphins, where he would be their third
best receiver. And it's a bit of a cautionary tale
that basketball stars at international soccer stars seemingly age slowly
(36:53):
and get paid forever. If you're not a quarterback in
the NFL, you age quickly. Ab went from a star
to out of the league. And OBJ was the fifth
most productive member of the Baltimore Ravens offense. And when
OBJ came into this league, he had an NBA feel
to him. He was dating models in Paris. He had
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a shoe deal. He felt like his brand was bigger
than the New York Giants brand. I don't resent. That's fine,
but we love the game of football. We often worship
basketball players, but we don't watch it. Caitlin Clark's ratings
quadrupled five six times bigger than NBA regular season ratings. Again,
(37:37):
I don't worship athletes, and it's okay if you do,
because you do wear their shoes, right. I don't wear
football players cleats. A lot of people wear tennis shoes
from their favorite basketball player. That's cool. But I think
football endures in America for the right reasons. We love
the game. We love the game. We worship the game.
(37:59):
It's about winning in productivity in the game, not about
the brand or the player. The Atlanta Falcons are in
a Super Bowl, huge rating, the Packers are, the Patriots
are next year, if the Houston Texans are. We worship
the game, and that's why it endures because the game
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may change, but the game is the game. And when
you become very reliant on worshiping stars. Michael Jordan left
the NBA, they lost half their ratings and they've never recovered.
Tom Brady retired and the ratings went up, as they
did when Brett Farb retired and Peyton Manning retired. I'm
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thankful that the football culture in America is different than
the basketball culture. I'm okay with both. I think it's
fun that you can make the Hall of Fame and
never be a productive postseason baseball player NBA player. But
football is about winning, and OBJ doesn't get the thousand
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yard seasons struggles to stay healthy. I think he's a
nice guy. I think he's super talented, but it is interesting.
There was a time, and I had said this on
the air multiple occasions, he feels like the NFL's only
NBA player. But the big difference is you don't age
gracefully in the NFL. You leave. The game moves on
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with or without you. The goat leaves. NFL ratings go up,
the goat left the NBA half the audience disappeared. Colin Wright,
Colin Wrong top of next hour, J Mac.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Can I ask about Odell real quick? I know you
have sources out here on the West Coast.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
I didn't hear a lot during spring break. I'm locked
in with the family and stuff, but I did get
a text Odell wants to be with the Chargers. Apparently
he's dating Kim Kardashian. Wants to stay out here in LA.
Have you heard anything regarding Chargers in Odell.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
No, they're not gonna pay.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
They're not gonna want pay him. Is he gonna be
cool taking less money to play out here? Have Chargers
need receivers as we know?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah? I again, I think Jim Harbaugh's got bigger concerns
than Obj's dating life.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
But that's probably why he doesn't. Isn't jumping at the
Miami offer right now? Right He's waiting for someone, and
I'm told that someone is the Chargers. Now, I don't
know if the Chargers feel the same.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
One.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Well, if he would be a number three receiver for them, yeah,
I mean I can't.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
What's Quintin Johnson? He ain't even a two?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Well, they're going to try to make him a two.
They're gonna draft two receivers, so I mean they of
their needs wide receiver is number one. But I think
you're gonna see them get much more physical upfront. They'll
go all line, they'll get another running back, they'll get
another tight end, and the physicality you'll see it and
hear about it in practice. But I mean, if he
wants to play for the Chargers, I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Two and a half weeks to the draft. Kind of
fired up, huh? Kind of Well, by the way, Purdue
Yukon tonight. I know you're stoked.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
I think it's Yukon closer than many expect. But it's
Yukon the better team over the starn How are two
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, it is a Monday in Los Angeles, and
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Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmack is
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Where Colin right, Where Colin was wrong? One hour from now.
Caitlin Clark sort of a lot of times athletes ride
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a wave to the beach. She was the wave, She
was the momentum and the inertia, and she sort of
carried all of us on this magical ride which ended
up short. But I mean, you were on vacation everywhere
you go. I was at an airport yesterday and the
first half I was waiting to get on the plane
and I looked around, and I walked around where I
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was sitting waiting to get on the plane. Everybody, whether
it was Fubo or whatever device it was, everybody was
watching that game. I've walked around during a World Series game.
I've walked around during a w NBA Finals game. Not
every TV's on, every TV was. I don't know what
the number will be, but every in the airport, the
whole airport in Chicago was watching it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The only time we turned on a TV during spring
break was to watch the Caitlin Clark LSU game pool side,
like twenty five people, two TVs. It was crazy, like
people are obsessed and rightfully so.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah. Well, the better deeper team South Carolina won yesterday.
At one point they had a thirty to nothing advantage
in bench scoring. The better team generally beats the iconic
great star. I suspect tonight Ukon the better team will
beat the star Zach Edi and Purdue. Caitlin Clark plays
like Steph, but Steph got great players around him, Clay
(02:08):
Kadi and Draymond. Her career is more like Luca in Dallas.
Is Kyrie enough a remarkable score but having to carry
a little too bit much of the load against the
truly great teams in South Carolina is the Yukon or
Pat Summitch Tennessee. Now they're really really good. MJ. Never
forget this. The best basketball player many believe ever. Could
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never get past Larry Bird and the Celtics, could never
get past Isaiah Thomas and the Pistons until he got
Phil Jackson, a great coach, maybe the greatest coach, and
he got Scottie Pippen, the greatest Robin ever in the NBA.
Lebron in Cleveland, the first iteration of Cleveland. He got
to the finals and got destroyed, swept by San Antonio.
The better team, the better coach, the better supporting cast.
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Individual greatness could be Tiger Woods or Serena has no ceiling.
You don't rely on others, maybe a caddy or a coach,
but it's about you. But Cristiano Ronaldi, perhaps the greatest
soccer talent of my life, with Portugal's talent, is not
going to win a World Cup. Give him French, French talent,
Germany talent, give him that level of talent surrounding him.
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He probably has multiple World Cups. Do not doubt, however,
Caitlyn Clark's remarkable talent. She has the qualities we love
with basketball stars, scores quickly, scores a lot, real toughness,
the vision, the ability to elevate others. But her career
at college ends like many icons do before they get
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a Pippin'. Kobe's career was stalled, then he got pau Gasol.
The better team beats the icon without great supporting staff.
Caitlyn Clark, though, the story here is bigger than that.
She carried a lot of things over the last couple
of months, largely women's basketball, the state of Iowa's economy,
(04:01):
and my guess she will have an impact in the WNBA.
I doubt it's this significant, but she will have an
impact and certain people, men and women. Whatever it is,
you see it sometimes in movies in Hollywood, but that's
often make believe, and this was very real. It is
almost a magic dust. Is it invincibility, relatability, connectability, or
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just lots of ability, whatever it is, it was bigger
than basketball. Caitlin Clark sprinkled that dust over all of us.
And here's what they said after.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
There's not a regret in my mind of how things went.
I'll be able to sleep every night even though I
never won a national championship and I think that's the
thing about everything I've done, is like there's so much
to be proud of. I don't sit in sulk about
the things that never happened. I just you know, my
mom always taught me keep your head high, be proud
of everything that you accomplished. And you know, I think
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I'm still hungry for a lot more too.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I want to personally think Katelyn Clark for lifting up
our sport. She carried a heavy low for our sport
and it just is not gonna stop here on a
collegiate tour. But when she is the number one pick
in a WNBA draft, she's gonna she's gonna lift that
league up as well. So so Kaylyn Clark, if you're
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out there, you are one of the goats of our
games that we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
A lot of athletes, even great ones, ride the wave.
Caitlin Clark was the wave, all right. I've been told
the Washington commanders right now as of today, would choose
Jaden Daniels LSU quarterback as their top pick, and going
back and forth, I'm told they believe he's more consistent
(05:56):
than Drake May, he is quicker, more mob than Drake May,
an offensive coordinator at Cliff Kingsbury who will have some
say in this, has had multiple quarterbacks in his collegeen
pro coaching career that play like him. Quarterbacks like Jaylen Daniels.
Jayden Daniels are important. They're very hyper mobile, right, and
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that matters a lot. Russell Wilson, Kyler, Murray, Lamar Jackson.
As you're trying to figure out the sophisticated NFL pocket
and all it asks, it gives you a couple of
years to pick up first downs and move the sticks
with your feet. Even Patrick Mahomes acknowledged the light didn't
truly go on until year three. But the ability to
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move Washington's got a bad offensive line, pick up first
downs with those feet as you're learning the game is important.
He is not perfectly sized. He's a bit spindily for
me six three, six, three and a half and two
ten and it is a bit of a concern. But
in the NFL you can't be paralyzed by perfect I
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remember listening to draft experts tell me that Justin Herbert
was just too mechanical. Yes, he is mechanical, that is
his one flaw. He's a bit mechanical. He could be
more creative. He's also six five and a half two
thirty with a huge arm and can move draft him.
You know, when you get relationships, could be a girlfriend, boyfriend,
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marriage company. There's no perfect. Stop seeking it. Stop nitpicking.
Jayden Daniels is really good at Arizona State. He's better
at LSU. He gets better every year. You need a quarterback.
If you look at the top quarterback prospects coming out
of college, they had red flags. I mean, Josh Allen
was inaccurate. Patrick Mahomes was wild. He was one of
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those big twelve air raid quarterbacks and none before him
had worked. Justin Herbert was mechanical. Some were asking about
Lamar Jackson, is he an NFL quarterback? And these are
the top guys. Forget the third, fourth, and fifth round
gets the top guys. It's very rare when you get
a Matt Stafford and everybody's like, yeah, big arm, big
(08:04):
arm wins a lot, accurate and productive. Even Joe Burrow
people wonder can he push the ball down the field.
He's done just fine doing that. That His big issue
now is held so Aaron Rodgers. I'm reading part of
E O'Connor's new book which comes out in September on
Aaron Rodgers. One of the reasons he fell in the
draft people thought he was too arrogant. Yes, sometimes he is.
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He's also got a trophy, and that's what everybody's trying
to do here. So there's other things to consider. If
you have the number duo pick and you have a
defensive head coach in Washington, does defensive coaches hate turnovers?
Jayden Daniels doesn't turn the ball over. Last year he
had a ten to one touchdown to interception ratio. He
does not turn the ball over. The other thing to
think about, Washington's got a very weak offensive line. Well,
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pocket quarterbacks like a Jared Goff. You see how good
he is in Detroit with a good line, or in
the Rams when they had Andrew Whitworth. You saw him
before and Whitworth arrived in Los Angeles and the on
line was bad. Jared Goff was ineffective, so bad old line,
mobile quarterbacks matter, TD interception ratio. Fantastic defensive coaches like that.
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The offensive coordinator has worked with several college quarterbacks that
have had this style and been effective, and again he
just keeps getting better. That is a real thing. So
I'm told right now today that is who Washington likes.
It works with his mobility, he doesn't turn the ball over,
He's coachable and keeps getting better. Right now, Washington, Jaden
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Daniels at too good stuff today. I tell you that
Caitlin Clark story is fun A lot of times. Selfishly,
whenever I watch sports, I think about how does it
benefit my show? Because I'm on the air for three
hours a day, fifteen hours a week, you can do
the math. I have to fill a lot of space.
And one of the things I've said, even though I
don't necessarily love it for the sport, if the NFL
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extends to eighteen weeks and a second, it'll take me
all the way to NFL free agency seasonal end. I'll
talk about the Super Bowl. I'll take a week off,
I'll come back. They'll be eighteen NBA games left. It
makes my job easier. I hope women's basketball rides this
momentum and we can mix it in to our march topics.
I'm always looking for stuff outside of the NFL that
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moves the needle. It's why I love the Pac twelve
converging with the Big ten. So I get USC Washington, Oregon, UCLA,
along with Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State. I get
all those brands in one conference. I get Texas, Oklahoma
in the SEC with Bama, Georgia, LSU in Florida. I'm
looking for big and the more topics can fill a show.
(10:42):
So anybody that fights fun or fights momentum. Caitlin Clark
is great for sports, great for Iowa, great for the WNBA,
great for my business. So selfishly, it's fantastic that we
have this tsunami of TV ratings for a sport that
got them back in eighty three was shared Bryl Miller,
and then's always been you know, from a sports talk show,
(11:03):
radio host, TV host. It's kind of disposable. You talk
about it that I would love to have ten segments,
multiple leads in March April every year on this sport
and the other thing about women's basketball that men's college
basketball over the last decade has lost. It gives you chemistry,
and it gives you continuity. It gives you stories that
(11:26):
are repeating. Remember ninety percent of the money in Hollywood
is remakes, right like this was a remake. It's Iowa
gets there and loses and the LSU Angel Reese story.
We all get caught up on this on the wrong stuff.
Angel Reese. She talked a little trash, she got a
little heat. She's gonna be great, She's fine. But the
bigger story was it was a rematch in boxing, UFC,
(11:49):
Hollywood Sports. We like rematches, you argue and fight them.
But there were so many things that worked. I hope
this is what March and April looked like. Both the
men and women's college basketball programs can be big toppings.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I mean, Colin, we talk about the industry a lot
and how it's changed significantly in the last thirty years.
Do you know how hard it is to get people
to turn on a television. In twenty twenty four, you
got TikTok YouTube streaming service. There's so many options video games.
Yet for Kaitlin Clark, people are actively seeking out the game,
turning on a television that says something. When by the way,
(12:24):
the Yukon team, some of these Yukon players taking jabs
the old w Yeah, they were getting like two million
viewers for the championship game when they were undefeated, like
thirty nine and two three million viewers. Yeah, Kaitlin Clark
is pulling seven eight times that number. Yeah, she gets
people to turn on a TV. We haven't seen that
in women's sports ever.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Tiger Woods got me, along with the Sopranos, to change
how I viewed Sunday television, right, Like Tiger Woods move
people to Sunday. I would be out usually doing things
and I was like, Oh, it's two o'clock, Tiger's making
the turn. We got to watch. There's very few athletes
that had Gretzky made hockey for a short time, like
(13:04):
Cover of Sports, illustrated when it mattered, lead in the
news when it mattered bigger than basketball. Like there are
these athletes and a lot of its greatness. But there's
a magic dust too. I mean, daytime television eroded. Oprah
didn't she grew Whatever it is? Is it invincibility, connectability,
you know, a lot of ability, whatever it is. I
(13:26):
don't know what the IT factor is. Part of it
is obviously a great player, but there's a lot of
great players in the KD is a great player. He
doesn't move TV ratings. Steph Curry is a great player.
He does move TV ratings. So it's hard to explain
what it was the first time I ever saw this
in my life, and I didn't know what TV ratings were.
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But when I was a kid, Muhammad Ali he was lyrical,
he had poems, he was his style, he was good looking.
It's just hard to explain what it is and people.
I mean, I've been trying to figure out kind of
what it is, but I've seen it happened about once
a decade. You get this magic dust sprinkled on a
sport and it's like, it's just join the wave, have
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fun and watching him.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
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Speaker 1 (14:17):
John Calipari a very high profile basketball coach at one
of the highest profile basketball programs ever. Kentucky has bailed
on that school and he's going to Arkansas, which is
a second a third tier program, which was very good
recently thanks to another good coach who now has gone
to USC. John Calipari, I have mixed feelings about him.
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Always got very defensive and uncomfortable when you sort of
questioned his vision or I would call it his salesmanship,
and Kentucky got tired of it too, so he bailed
to a second tier basketball program. He had a great
recruiting pitch. It worked for a while. Many things do.
Dating works for a while, but eventually marriage. Even study
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show you'll live longer. It's better for you. But his
recruiting pitch, it landed top recruits, and those basketball prodigies
would spend a whopping five to six months with Calipari,
and he would brag, I make them rich in the NBA. Yeah,
but Kentucky fans want to be enriched in March and
his teams kept getting bounced in the first round again.
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Nick Saban, you spend three to four years. Nick could
change your life. Harbaugh could change your life. Great college
football coaches, Debosweeney can change your life in three or
four years. The ark of it, the direction. Nobody's changing
anything in six months. And those Wildcat recruits, let's be honest,
they would have been their basketball prodigies had they gone
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to Kansas, Syracuse, Yukon that had been rich in the
NBA as well. What I found out about Calipari, he's
got a vision. It worked briefly. It doesn't work anymore.
You can't win with eighteen year olds. Face Yukon and
Purdue and Carolina's twenty three year olds. You can't. And
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all Kentucky basically said was, Hey, John, we need more
from you in March. And that made John and his
sales pitch very uncomfortable. If I was Kentucky, I would
call Jay Wright and I would offer him whatever it takes.
He builds, He builds teams and builds young men, not
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recruiting rankings. Bill Belichick's the best football coach many believe. Ever,
his entire mantra was, we don't just collect talent. Recruiting
is a sales pitch. It's part of college sports, and
I respect it and respect how good Calipari was added.
But the truly great coaches have a second gear beyond
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the pitch, and I've yet to see it from Calipari,
who now bails on an all time program for a
fine program. There is a big difference. J Mack with
a news news.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Let's start with the Dallas Cowboys. Colin, I uh, I
get something went down over spring break while I was gone.
But Michael Parsons there's some stuff happening in Dallas. Apparently,
so Shan Shariffe of one oh five to three the
fan in Dallas says Michaeh. Parsons has worn thin on
people within the franchise.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
I have heard from way too many people this offseason,
way too many. I'm talking about at least at least
four different people.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That Micah has worn thin there.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I've heard from way, way, way, way too from way
too many people. If Micah Parsons was out of there,
there'd be a decent amount of people inside the Ford
Center at the Star in Frisco smiling or reading a
sigh of that is my hot take.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Well, listen, Jimmy Johnson traded herschel Walker at the time.
We thought you could not win in the NFL without
a great running back, and it is regarded as the
greatest heist in pro football history. You could get two
ones for Michaeh. Parsons as the league moves offensive again.
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I'll just throw it out there. You fall in love
with football players outside of quarterback. None are worth more
than a point. If somebody gave me two firsts for Michaeh. Parsons,
I mean, you better start hitting on draft picks because
you're gonna have to pay ceedee Lamb and dack of fortune.
And I'm not saying you have to move him. He's
an edge rush But I have watched in the NFL
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people fall in love with non quarterbacks. It's not winning
the Super Bowls. You win super Bowls two ways in
this league, with a top six quarterback or a quarterback
and a rookie deal where you can load the franchise
up highest paid receiver, highest paid edge rusher does not
win super Bowls. And if you're the Dallas Cowboys, isn't
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at the standard? Steelers have had TJ. Watt for years.
How's it working? Miles Garrett in Cleveland? How's it working?
I'm just saying, if this is true, can you not
consider it the idea that players are un tight, even
top quarterbacks. If you look at Kirk cousins numbers over
the last go look at Kirk Cousin's number over the
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last five years, He's second to Mahomes in multiple stats.
They moved often. There's only two ways to win the
Super Bowl. Superstar quarterback. There's six of them. Stafford Mahomes,
you know, Lamar, those kind of guys, there's six of them,
or a quarterback on the rookie deal like Houston's doing,
and you load up for about four years and I
know it sounds crazy. TJ. Watt, best dad rusher, best
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dad rushers today, Max Crosby, TJ. Watt, Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
So if Michah Parsons, Michael Parsons, I want to be
the highest paid defense edge rusher in the league.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You say, if I say, you know, I say, let's
sit and have a meeting and talk about it. I
like Micah Parsons. I think he's tremendous. But this is
not the NBA or international soccer where there is no
replacing Messy. You know, there is no replacing Lebron in
his prime because there is no.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
The problem is it's it's you can just say, oh,
well you need a quarterback, Okay, well good luck finding one,
and listen, they could be moving on from their coach
after this year. They could move on from Dak and
then like, is it an attractive job if you don't
have MICHAEH. Parsons and a couple of tenth pole players
on that roster.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Bever, this is not Caitlin Clark at Iowa, where the
TV ratings would shrink. She literally is Iowa Women's basketball.
This is Dak's team, This is a GM quarterback coaching league.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, how much better do the quarterbacks look on that team?
Member Diggs at a moment the kid Bland was exceptional?
How much better do they because Michaeh. Parsons is in
the quarterbacks face on every possession, like.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Not in any way trying to prove that Micah Parson's
isn't great. I am saying somebody would give you two
first round picks for him. Yeah, I'm not saying he's
not great, but I do think Dallas has big questions
to ask. Jerry loves Dak and they have to pay
CD Lamb. Dak without CD Lamb is a C plus
B minus. So it's like you're gonna pay if you're
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gonna pay Dak. And Dak has a lot of leverage
and go in his contract, He's got all of it,
no trade clauses, then you may have to consider getting
two first round picks. Cowboys have never been a terrible
draft team. They do draft pretty well.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So the other leg of this is Des Bryant has
weighed in on Twitter. Des Brian former Cowboy, and he's
saying that this is because uh, it's time to pay
Michah Parsons and the Cowboys are doing some Uh what's
the phrase that they used where it's like reverse psychology. Oh,
Michael Parsons is a problem. We don't, you know, like
putting it out there that man, this guy's kind of
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a problem. We don't want to pay him that much.
Trying to depress his value a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well, des Bryant was a pain in the bud. He was,
you know, that's why he left. And by the way,
had no market when he left. Michael Parsons would have
a massive market.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
It's interesting all these all these athletes with podcasts are
such problems for their organizations. Draymond Green, Now, Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Have you listened to that podcast? What a great podcast?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Draymonds is Next up the Houston Texans. They picked up
Stefan Diggs last week in a move that should shake
up the AFC hierarchy, but according to Adam Jefter, Houston
has wiped out the final three years of Diggs's deal,
giving him the ability to become a free agent after
this season. Now, this is another similar to Michael Parsons.
He was a headache in the locker room. Now we
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called this.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
For a while, right, Yeah, we knew this. I was
told a year ago. Josh Allen was over the drama.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
And I think if you guys rolled the tape from
two months ago, I think we even mentioned the Texans
because they got a quarterback on you did deal multiple time.
I don't know if it was me, but I'll take credit, sure.
I just don't know. Like he's kind of on the decline, right,
his numbers aren't what they were two years.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, I think this is a smart move by the Texans,
And so what the Texans are saying is we love
your talent. We'll pay a little more, but we're not
gonna be beholden or paralyzed to some of this drama.
If it encourgs. We've seen it happen twice, We're not
gonna let it happen a third time. You're gonna be
a free agent after the year. What we want for
a year is your greatness. So I think the move's smart.
If a player has a history, again, be one thing
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if he had a fight with a coach in one,
but we have two separate situations Minnesota and Buffalo where
he was productive. But there was a lot of drama
at the end. There was a lot of talk and
chatter inside. You know you were hearing. I mean, there's
a reason Minnesota moved on. There was some drama inside
the building. You're seeing it again, some drama. So Houston saying, hey,
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we like the production, don't We're not interested in the drama.
So let's wipe out three years, pay him a little more,
and get him one great year. And by the way,
Stephan's gonna play his butt off because a free agent
where you can make big money. So he'll have a
great year.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
He'll be a class act. I'm sure you guys did
it last week. I haven't even looked. But how bleak
is the Bills wide receiving core.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, they're gonna have to draft two. They don't have
a one or two. Yeah, but they but the but
they are excellent tight end and there'll be.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The two tight end sets.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yea sick and Kay. They excellent tight end. They finally
found a running back, Josh Allen's amazing, so you can
find talent. But they're gonna have to draft more than one.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Final story is the Milwaukee Bucks. Colin remember when they
fired their coach and added Doc Rivers. Every they's like Oh,
Doc Rivers is great. The Bucks are now fifteen and
seventeen since Doc Rivers took over the Bucks and now
lost four straight and they're losing to like the dregs
of the league, like the Raptors and really bad teams.
Here's Doc Rivers after Friday's loss.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
They're frustrated.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
I guess that's a good thing, but that's not gonna
get you anywhere. Frustration gets you nowhere. We got to
work ourselves through this. You can feel it, you literally can.
You can feel it. You can feel it during the game.
And you go through these things. I've been through them.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
You do.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
You gotta work yourself out of them. Even one in
the officials said it, man, you can feel that giving.
This is your team right now.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, well they are an old heavy team, so I
think it is. So. I saw they played the Knicks
and lost. I watched Jalen Bunsen Friday. I went to
the Knicks game in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh Knicks Bowls.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, how was it. Jalen Brunson is the best star
in New York's intoviewing. He's so good and by the way,
when you see him in person, dude, he is so clever.
He is so quick. He got nothing to work with now,
just a bunch of guys.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Who's guarding Crusoe?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
He throw a bunch of people at him. And the
bottom line is when you watch Jalen Brunson in person,
it's even better than you see the highlights like he
is really I mean, his quickness is really something to behold.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
So, you know, I go away for a week on
spring break with the kids. I didn't realize the Orlando
magic in the Knicks could surpass the Bucks for the
two seed? Is it that bad for Milwaukee? What the
hell are they gonna slip to the Ford? Look at
the numbers there.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I mean, we know the Cads are really this. You know,
we have talked about this on this show. Whereas you
called Stefan Diggs to the tech. I've been on this
for about six months. This is ending poorly. Doc's playoff
history isn't great. If they clunk in the East, I
do not believe. I think Dame was a bit of
a hail Mary, and so was Doc Rivers. An organization
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did this because they not me. They felt the heat.
That's why they got rid of a player they loved.
Drew Holliday It's why they moved up a coach with
a winning record. Milwaukee inside the building felt heat. What's
it gonna be when you get whacked in the first round?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Well, we got to see if they lose to Embeid
or the Miami Heat.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, they would lose to Philadelphia right now? Whoa Maxey.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Let's settle down Joel be Let's not get too excited
about Joel Embiid. Okay, Maxie did have like fifty last
time year. But I know Dave Lillard has to be happy. Man.
He was playing for the Blazers, so they went like
thirty games a year. He's number two seeds. They got
a legit chance.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Right. Do you think if Jannis loses in round one,
he's just gonna be like, you know what, We're all
good here.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Well, okay, so what are they gonna do? Fire the
coach again? You're gonna get rid of Doc Rivers. I
don't think you could trade Dame and get a haul.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I think you move Janis. Janis says, guys, I'm gonna
leave you eventually, go get a haul. Golden State come
to knock.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
If you have been pushing that for a while, wait,
Yannis to Golden State and the Warriors have.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
What is first round picks, Klay Thompson, expiring contract Jonathan
KAMINGA Moody. You restart the franchise, you probably they probably
want some Wiggins. You get a bunch of expiring contracts
and a bunch of draft pickers.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I love this idea that like Clay and you're.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Getting expiring contracts. So you have Dame Brook Lopez and
a lot of money and a lot of draft picks
and a lot of losses. You got a title out
of it, got a title.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't think you can trade a superstar Hall of
Famer in his prime, even if he asks that, you
got to do whatever you can to keep him on it.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It happened more than once.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I would feel bad for your city of Milwaukee. What
is a Dell's going to be a ghost town? I mean,
got you lose Yannis? Goodness great, it's over.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Dells will survive. Yanna's leaving. It's one of the nicest
malls in America, the Dells. H J. Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well that's the news. Thanks for stopping by the herd
Line News.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
For somebody that's never listened to our show that turned
in today from Milwaukee. We know the Dell's is not
a mall. It's a running joke on our Little s O.
Terek Show, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong top of Next Hour.
I'm telling you, Jalen Brunson in person, you got to
go to games. Sometimes. Understand, you go to a you know,
you go and you'll see a guy at MLS or soccer,
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and then you go to the game and you're like, oh, wow, okay,
it's totally different. I remember going to watch Lebron in Miami.
So when I was in the East Coast, I'd go
down and watch Lebron in Miami and you'd watch Lebron
during the huddles, screaming at Mario toomers and coaching on
the sideline, and you'd watch him beat people to the basket,
and you're like, like television, you know, they say everybody
looks a little older and a little thinner, a little
(28:59):
heavier on TV. When you watch certain players in person,
that's why you gotta go to the games. It's like, Wow,
Kobe in person was so much better than other all
star level players in his prime. It just the baskets
were easier. He was more creative. Jalen Brunson's is a
big time All star.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
You just reminded me the Knicks have a war chest
of draft picks. Why don't they go after Yannis. Hey,
everything not nailed down, that's not Brunson, it's yours, every
draft pick, every guy on the rosters village. I would
take that over the world. The Wars don't have the pick.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
If you have Giannis and Jalen Brunson, that's that's Eastern
Conference finals lot for five years. I would do that
in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I got picks.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Ask yourself. The NBA has got two rounds of draft picks.
I mean, brawny average for a game in college, He'll
get drafted in the second round. And that's not a
knock on, and I go, I'm gonna defend him coming
up next. But the reality is the NFL has seven
rounds and half the league is undrafted. There's players everywhere
in basketball. After the fourteenth pick, you kind of run
out of players. I mean the realities, I'd give up
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a ton and and anything to get Yannis if I
was the next Jalen Brunson is the best star in
New York since youing. He is way better than Mellow
in terms of commitment, effort elevating others. It's not even close.
I mean Mellow was getting his Brunson is the fact
they could beat Milwaukee without Julius Randall. They're just brunting
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out there, dropping forty plus. I'm telling you he is.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
So how are the Bulls looking your new team since
you're now a Chicago guy? Bears? Bulls?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
They got they got, they got the best hockey player
and now they're going to have the best quarter. Who's that? Connor?
I forget Nick? David what Bidard?
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Yeah? I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I don't know where you got any I'm just staring
at the cons my standings. Every morning when I get up.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I know more about college women's college hoops.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
That I do.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
An a tent, I think the America does that?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
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Speaker 1 (32:04):
The you know, polarizing people make some people lose their minds.
And I saw this story come up last week. Brownie
James who played at USC average about five points a game.
Athletic kid gotten better as a shooter. Remember he had
that cardiac arrest, So there's there's been kind of an
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ascension since that. It's been a slow build. He entered
the NBA Draft, and there's those that suspect that the
Lakers would be interested or a team would be interested
drafting Brownie James to attract Lebron. For all of those
that are bothered by that, you haven't seen this in
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college football recruiting, when you sign a marginal player from
a high school because there's a great player at the
high school the following year, sometimes you sign a cousin
or a brother of a great player who's a marginal player. Colin,
the only reason he would get drafted is because his
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dad is Lebron, sort of the same reason you got
into law school because your dad went there. You know
how many people have asked me that I know through
the years, can you get my kid an internship at
Fox Connections matter? They always have. The Lakers aren't moving
up to the lottery to draft him. He's not that
kind of player. But I called one NBA scout over
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the weekend and he said, smart kid, hard worker. He'd
be a good player on a great team full of
smart guys. He'd bring him off the bench. He is
getting better as a shooter. He is athletic, all right.
I mean, the NBA's got two rounds of draft picks.
Outside of your occasional Jokic, Draymond Green, a lot of
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guys drafted in the second round that disappear into the ether.
If it energized Lebron, if it got Lebron to your city,
I mean, I was thinking about this. Lebron is of
can get one hundred and eighty million dollar max contract.
The Lakers could give him that. If Brony got drafted,
he'd make a million dollars in the second round. So
essentially you'd be paying Lebron one hundred eighty one million,
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not one hundred eighty million. Dan Hurley's son, he's on
the bench for you, kon who cares. It's cool Dad
and son. Jannis's brother never had to start for the
Milwaukee Bucks. He's on their bench. If it gave Lebron
energy and the Lakers sign him, Lakers have plenty of
length they could use athletic young shooters. Bronnie James, an
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ascending player. You know when I sometimes I see you know,
every time you drive down the freeway and you see
a plumber's truck. You ever notice it's like Johnson in Sons. Oh,
dad's handing off the business. How are the Lakers owned
the dad passed away and gave it to his kids? Like,
(35:01):
I'm sorry, But the same people outraged by connections are
the ones that constantly seek getting their kids ahead through connections,
an internship here, getting into a college they don't quite
qualify for here. Yes, it's the way the world works.
It's okay. Brownie isn't a dynamic playmaker. It's not what
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he is. His dad is. That's okay. Sometimes the kid
is better than the dad, Barry Bonds or Ken Griffy Junior,
and that happens. Sometimes the kid is better. A lot
of times the dad is better and the kid gets
drafted because of the dad, or the kid can get
an opportunity because of the dad. Okay, okay, Lakers aren't
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giving away the future for Brownie. But again, I called
a scout one and he said, an athletic kid, he's
getting better because of the physical thing he had. It's
been a slow build, slow process. He'll enter the transfer portal,
somebody will probably pick him up. The transfer portal would
but you know the idea, anybody is now outraged because
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the Lakers would consider it, you know, with the I
think it's the fifty fifth pick who cares. Everybody's helping family,
who cares. So I saw that this is an interesting
kind of a cautionary tale. There is a big difference,
and I like both between the football culture, which is
about winning development, and about the basketball or international soccer culture.
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Our basketball culture, in my opinion, is broke. It's more
about worshiping the player and not developing the player. But
that's another angle. But ob J is a possible destination
for the Miami Dolphins, where he would be their third
best receiver. And it's a bit of a cautionary tale
that basketball stars at international soccer stars seemingly age slowly
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and get paid forever. If you're not a quarterback in
the NFL, you age quickly. Ab went from a star
to out of the league. And OBJ was the fifth
most productive member of the Baltimore Ravens offense. And when
OBJ came into this league, he had an NBA feel
to him. He was dating models in Paris. He had
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a shoe deal. He felt like his brand was bigger
than the New York Giants brand. I don't resent. That's fine,
but we love the game of football. We often worship
basketball players, but we don't watch it. Caitlin Clark's ratings
quadrupled five six times bigger than NBA regular season ratings. Again,
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I don't worship athletes, and it's okay if you do,
because you do wear their shoes, right. I don't wear
football players cleats. A lot of people wear tennis shoes
from their favorite basketball player. That's cool. But I think
football endures in America for the right reasons. We love
the game. We love the game. We worship the game.
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It's about winning in productivity in the game, not about
the brand or the player. The Atlanta Falcons are in
a Super Bowl, huge rating, the Packers are, the Patriots
are next year, if the Houston Texans are. We worship
the game, and that's why it endures because the game
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may change, but the game is the game. And when
you become very reliant on worshiping stars. Michael Jordan left
the NBA, they lost half their ratings and they've never recovered.
Tom Brady retired and the ratings went up, as they
did when Brett Farb retired and Peyton Manning retired. I'm
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thankful that the football culture in America is different than
the basketball culture. I'm okay with both. I think it's
fun that you can make the Hall of Fame and
never be a productive postseason baseball player NBA player. But
football is about winning, and OBJ doesn't get the thousand
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yard seasons struggles to stay healthy. I think he's a
nice guy. I think he's super talented, but it is interesting.
There was a time, and I had said this on
the air multiple occasions, he feels like the NFL's only
NBA player. But the big difference is you don't age
gracefully in the NFL. You leave. The game moves on
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with or without you. The goat leaves. NFL ratings go up,
the goat left the NBA half the audience disappeared. Colin Wright,
Colin Wrong top of next hour, J Mac.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Can I ask about Odell real quick? I know you
have sources out here on the West Coast.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
I didn't hear a lot during spring break. I'm locked
in with the family and stuff, but I did get
a text Odell wants to be with the Chargers. Apparently
he's dating Kim Kardashian. Wants to stay out here in LA.
Have you heard anything regarding Chargers in Odell.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
No, they're not gonna pay.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
They're not gonna want pay him. Is he gonna be
cool taking less money to play out here? Have Chargers
need receivers as we know?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah? I again, I think Jim Harbaugh's got bigger concerns
than Obj's dating life.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
But that's probably why he doesn't. Isn't jumping at the
Miami offer right now? Right He's waiting for someone, and
I'm told that someone is the Chargers. Now, I don't
know if the Chargers feel the same.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
One.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Well, if he would be a number three receiver for them, yeah,
I mean I can't.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
What's Quintin Johnson? He ain't even a two?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Well, they're going to try to make him a two.
They're gonna draft two receivers, so I mean they of
their needs wide receiver is number one. But I think
you're gonna see them get much more physical upfront. They'll
go all line, they'll get another running back, they'll get
another tight end, and the physicality you'll see it and
hear about it in practice. But I mean, if he
wants to play for the Chargers, I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Two and a half weeks to the draft. Kind of
fired up, huh? Kind of Well, by the way, Purdue
Yukon tonight. I know you're stoked.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
I think it's Yukon closer than many expect. But it's
Yukon the better team over the starn How are two
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