July 24, 2024 • 42 mins
Colin has bad news for the Cowboys as they are now dealing with their star WR CeeDee Lamb holding out from training camp to get a new contract
More proof the WNBA simply isn't ready for Caitlin Clark
He lists his most interesting potential storylines for the upcoming NFL season
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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receiver funny Guy's gonna stop by our show today. I
really liked to Sean Jackson nick right next hour top
of it. I was going to start the show today
and it was kind of negative. So I inserted a
positive story as our second story because yesterday I kind
of brought the hammer and that's not who I am.
It's just out of character thing for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
By the way, I dropped something in your dressing room
before the show, a major surprise. Someone sent it to me.
I don't know if it's a fan or not, but
I think you'll like it, so just something to look forward.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, let's scurry through this first segment so I can
go check it out. So sources this Morning Star Receivers,
Cdee Lamb says, I'm not showing up the Cowboy camp.
Go ahead and find me. I think because of their
scarcity of weapons, they just don't have much offensively right now.
He's going to get his money in a new contract,
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and then I think by the end of the year
they'll pony up the Brinks truck for Micah and Dak. Listen,
the last eight seasons have been pretty good for the Cowboys,
pretty good, better than most four division titles. Five playoff appearances,
a couple playoff wins in eight years isn't enough. But
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I think this season marks the slow, steady decline of
the Cowboys, and you thought you'd seen the worst of it.
Dak in his prime still probably late prime, will keep
you irrelevant. He's a B plus quarterback. But they are
going to and it'll start with Ceedee Lamb's contract get
absurdly top heavy. That's why they couldn't spend any money.
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They're too top heavy now in free agency. There's two
factors that really play into this steady decline. The NFC
was weak and wide open for the last several years,
and they couldn't take advantage of it. Now San Francisco, Detroit,
and Philadelphia are loaded have much better rosters than the Cowboys.
The Rams and the Packers have much better young talent.
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Atlanta with Kirk Cousins, more good players offensively in an
offensive league, the Dallas and watch out because Chicago and
Washington could both have star young quarterbacks on rookie contracts
the next four years. Is dak is making Mahomes money
and limiting the Cowboys. I looked at their schedule this morning.
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There are four games they should be heavily favored, the
Giants twice. Yeah, New Orleans and Carolina probably favored over
Tampa two. But it's close. Outside of that, every other
game is a coin flip and very losable. And in
most instances in this offensive league, the teams they play
have more good weapons. This is what happens when an
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eighty year year old man Jerry Jones. Eighty one year
old man Jerry Jones sees himself as the general manager,
and because he is front and center, he has leaned
on very vanilla coaching Parcels and Jimmy Johnson worked and
they're gone. It's been Jason Garrett, it's been Mike McCarthy.
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Both capable, but in situational football moments, did you trust either?
So the schedule is tough. They're going to get absurdly
top heavy. Ceedee Lamb probably wins this holdout. Their draft
was graded as average. They're clearly rebuilding the offensive line.
I'd call it uninspiring, and they didn't spend a nickel
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in free agency. This to me marks the beginning of
a slow, steady decline for Dak's big money years, and
I presume he'll sign a four year deal in the
Patrick Mahomes range. Mark Sanchez yesterday sees the same issues.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Think about the difference between maybe Dak and the Cowboys
his rookie year and the talent he had around him,
the other explosive players. Who's going to help this team
elevate suddenly? And where are the weapons? Who am I
throwing to? Who's keeping the defensive coordinators up at night
like dang, what are we gonna do about this guy?
And that's you know, those are tough questions to ask
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going into a season. You want to have those things
shirt up. So I think the lack of depth is
going to be tough and this is gonna be a
lot on Dak's plate.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Now some positive stories. Aaron Rodgers poking the media. Showed
up yesterday to camp wearing an Egyptian cat T shirt.
That's where he spent his time as he missed OTAs
many of you think I root against Aaron Rodgers, but
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I'll give you a little behind the rope truth. Because
of the battle we're going to have between Trump, jd
Vance and Kamala Harris and whoever her VP pick is,
Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN are going to have huge
ratings in September, October, and November. That won't be good
for me or ESPN or anybody hosting a sports talk show.
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So what do we need to survive until early November.
We'll be fine. In mid to late November to December, January, February,
people will be exhausted by political talk. But up to
the election, massive record breaking numbers, record breaking the Republican
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National Convention. Think about the history of Fox News, shattered
records and we're still months away. There are four stories
that can go a long way in keeping our little
telecasts interesting. Number One, Caleb Williams hits in Chicago, major market,
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iconic brand. He looks a little like Mahomes. Suddenly they're
scoring points and for the first time in all of
our lives, Chicago is a dynamic offense with the next
Patrick Mahomes. I think it's possible he'll make rookie mistakes.
But Cole Coment, Keenan Allen, Roma Dunze, DJ Moore, DeAndre
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Swift a better than you think offensive line. Not a
great defense in that division with Minnesota, Green Bay or Detroit.
It's possible. Is it probable? That would help us? Number
two Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers with Justin Herbert start quickly.
That's probable. The NFL did Jim Harbaugh solid. They open
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with the Raiders in Carolina, arguably the two worst teams
in the league if you look at their schedule. A
six and one start is not out of the realm
of possibility. Again, big market, star coach quiet, but a
star quarterback that would help us. The third story that
would probably do us some favors. The Dallas Cowboys implode.
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I mean it beats them being pretty good again. Mike
McCarthy blows a couple of early games with situational clock
management snaffoos. Dak is fine, but maybe the hold out
a lot of noise. They lose a game they should win,
and Dallas is rolling downhill. That probably for us is
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very very good content. And number four Aaron Rodgers chest out,
mocking the media crushes. He beats Josh Allen in the
first encounter. The NFL schedule is a lot of Aaron
and whether it's talking to Joe Rogan, it's talking to
his friends, he's a little cocky, a little aloof but
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he has got his chest out, he's playing great. The
offensive line comes together, Mike Williams talented, stays healthy, and
you look up and the New York Jets are six
to one through seven weeks heading into late October and
early November. If those four things happen, and if you
look at the schedule, they're all very probable, then we've
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got ourselves a fighting chance, a fighting chance. This will
be probably the most challenging September and October. Ever, I
should also throw out something else. USC beats LSU, and
Michigan is rolling, and the Big ten is on their heels,
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fight on Trojans going downhill and the polarizing Lincoln Riley
is dropping forty two a game against the Big ten. Okay,
that may not happen, but that'd be a nice one too.
But just to let you know, what I predict and
what I'd love to see happen are two different things.
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Aaron winning, pointing fingers, attacking the media making fun of us.
Are you kidding me? You think it's good if he
gets hurt again? That's what I want. You think it's
good if they start one and six and nobody cares
about the entire market of New York. I want a
New York team to win, and the Giants have no shop.
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So let's cross our fingers and hope the one team
that has a shot can win. J Mack, how about
that is a positive, optimistic, glass half full vibe to
start the show.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I love that segment, and I think you missed a couple.
I mean, Kansas City Chiefs going for a historic three
peat versus the Chiefs perhaps imploding. I mean, their offensive
line has a lot of questions. Brock Perdy and the
forty nine ers, they're billing this as the last dance.
If you will ask yourself this, like there's a lot.
Couldn't we argue the sing the two things that would
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be great for our business? The Jets go to San
Francisco and beat the Niners soundly, and Caleb Williams has
four touchdowns against Tennessee and all of a sudden, it's
like we have our next Mahomes. Aaron Rogers is on
top of the world. Those two things. And I'll say this,
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ratings matter to us. This is what we do. It's
our livelihood. We sit in meetings all day trying to
figure out what you want to talk about, what you
are interested in. So Harbaugh, Rogers, Caleb Williams, Cowboy implosion.
Now those are all wins for us. Yeah, No, it's
very exciting. I mean I got kind of excited just
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thinking about the season. Is it start next week?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
With it?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
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Speaker 1 (11:25):
So this is interesting. The WUNBA ratings are in for
the WNBA All Star Game against the US Women's Olympians,
and I don't know what happened, what's going on, but
it's smashed their all time, records destroyed them. They've played before,
the WNBA All Star Team and the USA Olympic Team.
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They've played before and nobody watched, and this time they
smashed records, proving once again that Caitlin Clark is driving
revenue for the league and should be now on the team.
But she's not. I'll get to that in a second.
What's interesting, though, is with the Paris Olympics starting Wednesday,
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the league is now on hiatus until October or excuse me,
until August fifteenth, So the WNBA is not playing, meaning
Caitlin's not playing, and the Olympics will be playing, but
Caitlin's not part of that. I would suggest if the
league wasn't as tribal and petty, that not only Caitlin
Clark but Angel Reeths clearly both should have been put
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on the Olympic team. Did you watch the WNBA All
Stars that had Reese and Caitlin Clark against the Olympians.
Angel Reese got a double double in eighteen minutes. She's
been fantastic, overshadowed by Clark, and Caitlin Clark led everybody
in assists. Both could be near the end of the
bench and you'd watch two rivals now playing together, friends
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or at least colleagues on the same floor fighting for
the same Olympic gold in a tribal divided world, especially
with what the Olympics can bring uniting all of us,
we get very little of that. Wouldn't that be cool? Nah,
let's just wait four more years. We've talked about Caitlin
Clark being on the Olympic team, but why not Angel Reese.
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She's been phenomenal. They're just different players. In eighteen minutes
she had twelve points and eleven rebounds against the Olympic team.
I don't care what lead you're in. That's phenomenal. And
I've said this, I don't want Caitlin Clark to win.
We got magic Bird here. That's what we should have.
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Caitlyn wins here, Angel wins there. Maybe Angel's team is better.
Caitlyn wins are more of personal awards. But eventually Caitlyn's
team gets good and then people recognize how great Angel
Reese is. So no Angel or Caitlin Clark for the
next month. As football camps open up, the WNBA will
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now disappear, but women's basketball doesn't need to. If they
had Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark even back of the bench,
both playing together for the first time on the Olympic team.
You keep telling me these amazingly talented young women aren't
ready for it. I'll say it again, women's basketball is
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not quite ready on how to handle Kitlyn Clark and
Angel Reese. Here's j Mack with the news.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
This is the Herdline news.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
All right, let's get back to positive news. Bett Stafford
and the Rams. He showed up at camp with an
adjusted contract. I don't know if you saw this, but
earlier this year McVeigh said Stafford was looking for more
guaranteed money in his deal. McVeigh weirdly did not go
into the numbers of what the adjusted contract was, but
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he did say that it did not include an extension.
Very weird talking points here.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
From the Rams. Well, they also made a couple of
roster moves with Tyler Higbee. So what's going on there.
I wonder if it's a contract thing to save some money,
to give out some money. The bottom line is they
want Stafford and don't be surprised by the way, and
this is not a shot at Stafford. Their roster now
is pretty set. They probably need to draft to tackle
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in another receiver next year. Don't be surprised at their
first pick late first rounds of quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Well, I'm surprised they didn't do that this year.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well, because they're going to give Matt Stafford two more
years to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, I mean they took a quarterback last year Stetson backs.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's a middle of the market in an average quarterback year,
he's never going to play. They're gonna go big game
hunting quarterback this next draft because the roster now with
all their defensive draft picks in the top the last
two years, is set. They're very young, very inexpensive, very talented.
They do need as Cooper cup Pages, they got to
get another receiver. They're set everywhere now. The old line's good.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Coca can't fly into the number one.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
That's one. You got to have four. So they need
more and they have to go get a tackle. Is
Havenstein right, tackles great, but he's getting old. But their
draft next year, they've only got a couple of needs. Tackle, receiver,
maybe another corner. They're going to go get a quarterback.
But what they want to do is give for the
next two years Stafford a chance to win a Super
Bowl because they think they can and and I don't
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think they're wrong. You think I think they're in the bubble. Absolutely,
They're in that Baltimore, San Francisco, Philly bubble. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And the number one issue is Stafford holding up obviously.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
When he was so that's why. By the way, if
you notice what they did in the last two years,
they've spent money on guards. Nobody's getting to Stafford's feet.
So what they've really smartly done is he's aged. Is
they paid for guards, they drafted. Now they got a
center who's a stud, so they they've really done it
the right way. As he's aged. Like Brady and Tampa,
Grady had a great guard, center, guard combo and capable tackles.
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That's what Staffords. That's what Russell Wilson did and in Denver,
Aaron didn't in New York and they know Regress they
don't play as well, so they are set up. They
just want to get Stafford in for two Super Bowl runs.
And then my guess is that third year Stafford maybe
number one, but they've got a in camp rookie second
year quarterback ready to roll. But I think they're gonna
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go big game hunting on quarterback next year.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I am interested the pivot that they made. Remember it
was forget about draft picks, Screw the picks, we don't
need them. We got top heavy, hot, top end talent.
And now they've kind of pivoted back to, well, we
need picks, we need to refurbish the rosters.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well that's what they've done the last two years.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I think it's pretty impressive and quick on the flo
like they're doing it quickly, still competing.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
As you said, well, they knew two years ago that
Aaron Donald may retired. So if you look at their
top two picks the last couple of years, it's been
defensive tackles and edge rushers, and they've hit. I believe
they've hit on all of them. I think their two
rookies this year from Florida State are going to be sensational,
so they'll have more sacks this year than last year.
They'll miss Aaron Donald, but they have spent two years
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knowing preparing for Aaron Jettison and.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Bullague offense is probably still like a top five, top
seven unit.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I mean this absolutely they're putting up.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Didn't They played Baltimore last year tougher than anybody had them.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
When Baltimore was crushing San Francisco, blowing out Detroit, hammering Miami,
they went to Baltimore across country and had them beat late.
I think it did, but that they outplayed them. So
this team is they draft well, they developed well, a
plus coach, a quarterback. I think they're a super Bowl
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bubble team.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, okay, all right, let's go to a non super
Bowl bubble team, the Denver Broncos. Weirdly, they have not
yet settled on their starting Qbuh. They drafted Bo Knicks,
they brought in Zach Wilson, and they kept jaredt Stidham.
They're all competing for the top spot, and Sean Payton
said they're still figuring out who will be QB one
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for Week one.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Up again. Obviously won't stay that way for the long term,
but as we get started, we'll keep you posted and
eventually we'll settle into the routine we want. I'm not
going to sit here and lay out like here's how
it goes, because I think the mistake made is deciding
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how it goes. We'll see a rotation initially and then
and then we'll move on from there.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Very excited. They are my rams of last year. PFF
has been the worst roster in the league. No way,
no way, Carolina, the Giants. Carolina got a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Of We're not going to go there. Now. Let me ask,
do you think that he knows who his quarterback is
for week one or nice? Ye? Yes, you think it's
Nicks as a loss, Yeah, it would be a tough
sell to the fan base to draft Knicks and then
start Zach Wilson week one. I think that would be
very awkward. Stidham's been in the offense longer than Wilson has.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Right year, Zach Wilson blows people owy at practice, justin fields,
blows people oy in practice, live games. I'm gonna go
with bow Nix and I don't think their rosters nearly
as bad as people. I think they have an elite
left tackle, an elite receiver, an elite coach, an elite guard,
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an elite corner.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well, hold on, hold on, I'm looking at the elite
number one receivers Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He's not a number one, yes he is. He's very
good player. Mims the excellent number two. Two excellent receivers
got Jerry Judy out of the way that he was.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I can't believe you don't like him. Javonte Williams is
a nice running back. Offensive line had some holes. Question
at center, left guard mcglinchy kind of underperformed last year coming.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Over the great at left guard. I think they'll overcome that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And then Patrick chartan very good cornerback, elite, maybe.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Nice safety guard they've got. They've got a great safety.
Active young linebackers, semi young lineback. We'll see you need
an add rusher.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You know, I was gonna float to the staff. I
probably should have done this off air. You know how
we did a quarterback draft. We should do an over
under bets draft where you get like your favorite Oh,
I like that, and then I get my favorite over
under because it sounds like you're talking yourself into the
Broncos over oh.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
That I've already made the bet. Done, already made the bet.
I think they're I think Minnesota and Denver are my
rams last year and my Minnesota. So two years ago,
I took Minnesota over. I was right. Last year. I
took the Rams, and I was right. I think Denver
and Minnesota are both my overs. This whole five and
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a half wins. Sean Peyton can't go seven and ten,
give me a break. The Raiders are two w's right there. Ooh,
you can't find seven wins in there.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Listen, you better get that win against Seattle.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Let me ok, just for our radio audience, I'll be
optimistic Colin Sean Payton out duels a rookie staff and
geno in week one, and then it's.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Going on the road in hostile Seattle in week one
and winning.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Against the rookie coach. By the way, Pittsburgh get home
if you go to the history of Denver and high
altitude at home in September. One of the best teams.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
But that's a Russell Wilson revenge game.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Again. They get the Raiders week five, the Saints, the Panthers,
they get to buy before Anthony Richardson, who we hope
is healthy. I mean again, they face a lot of
teams here, Atlanta at home, Steelers at home, Tampa Carol line.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Do you think maybe they eclipse the win total before
the bye week in week fourteen, because it better happened. Listen,
seventeen and eighteen Bengals and Chiefs. You're not one of
those that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
For number one. They're gonna eclipse that five win total
by the bye week in Week fourteen. I do not
buy They're a terrible roster. Don't buy it at all
at all.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
All right, let's go to the final story, and that
is to the Jets. Yes, Scarett Wilson, the stud receiver
for the Jets, top eight receiver in the league, without
a without a doubt. He's watched a lot of receivers
get big contract extensions, and he's eligible for one after
the twenty twenty four season. Garrett Wilson spoke about wanting
to earn his spot among the league's top wideouts.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
I see all of it. You know, I don't look
at it as far as that could be coming from.
I look at it as I got to go make
that happen. You know, I got the opportunity to join
an elite group of guys, and you know that's who
gets that type of money. As an elite group of guys.
You know, guys that are part of teams that win
games because of them, and and you know, our difference
makers every single time there on the field. That's not
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how I'm motivated, But but I'm not gonna sit here
and act like I don't see.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It very exciting. Jmac so his.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Numbers the last couple of years with no quarterbacks somewhat staggered.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
No, he's good.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
He's sort of good. He's cool, and he also appears
to be humble, like he seems like a nice kid.
He's not going to social media and.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Ohio State product obviously. Listen, he caught ninety five passes
and the passes were from like Tim Boyle and Zach
Wilson put up massive numbers.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Dad, he's a touchdown. He's a great young player, and
he's he appears to be a great young guy. No,
I mean, look at his numbers considering the quarterback play
are phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
He's eclipsed all other Jet receivers in the last two season.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
He's he's a great one.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I mean, that's why Mike Williams opposite.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I remember when Ohio State used to furnish the NFL
with linebackers and backs. Now it's receivers. The receivers are
the best, some of the best in the league, while
Ohio State has become it's so funny this midway. I
grew up with Ohio State. It was Woody Hayes and
pound the football. They've become wide receiver. You, I mean
they got they got. Harrison's going to be a star.
Wilson's a star. Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
You got a change with the wind, you know, the
football changes. You gotta adapt. They've done a good job.
And listen, I don't want to get too excited about
the jet skills.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Lave is another one with the Saints. He's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
He doesn't have a quarterback either. But Garrett Wilson and
Breese Hall, if you're just looking at top receiver, top
running back duos, I mean they're in discussion for the
best one two punch, very running back, very elite. You
can say elite priest. Hall is like top three running
back here, Wilson top eight. I mean, listen, this is.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
We don't need to put it in top.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Everything's got to be us.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
They're good and we were happy with their good. Who's
happy with good? Most of America?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Not us.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
We have such high standards.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Day not like us. Can I say that?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Are you done? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I saw this story and I thought was pretty
interesting that Kyle Shanahan San Francisco forty nine Ers, very
smart offensive head coach Dad was a great coach too,
offered Bill Belichick a role on his staff, and Bill
Belichick turned it down. So here's here is Kyle Shanahan
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on the TK Show podcast with Tim co Comi of
the Athletic. Here's the sound.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
The head coach of a team right now. I know
what I would do if I was an owner, So
that shocks me. And the last thing you want to
do is insult someone like Bill Belichick. But I know
he just loves Paul in the simplest form, So I
think it all out to him like.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Whatever he'd wanted to do. See he's he politely turned
me down. I actually think Belichick, who turned it down,
was smart to turn it down. He doesn't need to
grind and be on the treadmill. He needs to self
reflect and analyze a broader view of the league. Because
when Brady left, Bill didn't struggle, He crashed. The roster's awful.
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The offense was in nept his quarterback handling was brutal,
His staff retreads post Brady, Bill was a mess. Drafting
not great, Winning disappeared even the stuff Bill was known
to be great at, like details and situational football was haphazard.
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Belichick crashed, and there's one way to fix that. It's
not grinding on a staff. It's looking in the mirror,
making calls, visiting camps. Dude can coach, there's no question
about that. But if you're gonna give him control of
the football operation, you're romanticizing what happened. This wasn't a
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slow decline. Pretty but no, that's what we're going to
see with the Cowboys over the next three years. It
was they couldn't get their roster right. The offense was
a knemic. Whatever he did to mac Jones didn't work.
Matt Patricia is an offensive coordinator, like it was embarrassing.
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The offense was the weakest next to Carolina in the league.
So once you're a legend, by the way, you can't
open the show like Paul McCartney could be ninety four.
He's never opening for anybody. Bon Jovi, they don't open
for anybody. I don't care if John bon Jovi's bald.
At some point, he's not opening for anybody. Legends don't
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do the undercard, So same with Connor McGregor, no undercards,
not interested, even though he didn't win fights anymore. J
mack Nick right top of the show, Tyreek Hill has
some kind words about Tua, but Paul George said something
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and about the Clippers being the little brother of the Lakers.
And what's interesting is when Steve Balmer, the richest owner
in the NBA, bought the franchise, they had a couple
of different directions to go, and as brilliant as Balmer is,
did he go the direction that's the opposite of the
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Speaker 1 (30:32):
You know, I like Paul George analytically, one of the
more underrated players of the last decade. But he couldn't
get through Lebron in the East and so or you know,
when he was in Cleveland or when he was in Miami,
he couldn't get past him. And then it comes out
to Los Angeles and well it's the Clippers. And so
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he was on a podcast recently and it's it's interesting
he talked about because he's in Fresno state. He's a
California kid, easy to root for, nice guy, plays on
both ends of the floor. I always found him an
incredibly easy guy to root for, especially if you're in California,
and was willing said listen, I want to go back home,
which is always a great story. But he was on
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a podcast recently and said being a Clipper can be tough.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I think initially, you know what I mean, coming back
to La, that's that was home when I first came
back to LA.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
But it ain't.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
It's not the same love because when I was in LA,
they like, man, you should have been a Laker.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It wasn't no like, oh, welcome.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
To the clippery you in LA, but you should have
been a Laker second team. I'm on the Betams. That's
that's how the the vibe and the love felt.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So no matter how much money you have, And Steve
Balmer is the first or second richest owner in the NBA.
In Los Angeles, you need to win and win big.
It's an incredibly just acted city. And the Clippers have
had Lob City. They now have the richest owner, a
cool new arena coming Harden Kawhi Westbrook. But the last
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five years, the Lakers have Lebron and a d and
another title and two Western Conference Finals trips, and the
Clippers have Hey, is Kawhi available tonight? The Rams have
two Super Bowls in the eight years they've been in LA.
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The Dodgers have twenty one division titles in their history.
The Lakers have Lebron ad and seventeen titles. And the
Chargers have harbaughn a star quarterback. And here comes usc
entering the Big ten, and the Clippers have Hey, you
want to go watch James Harden? You can buy a
lot of things, but what you can't buy is loyalty
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and devotion. And as the Clippers move into their new arena,
two things are also true. They have no banners or
no retired jerseys of all time great players, just a
cool arena and really really wealthy owner. I would argue
Steve Ballmer should have taken the Oklahoma City Tact, young, draft,
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develop and build a culture within. What the Clippers try
to do is be a knockoff version of the Lakers.
So whereas Los Angeles can go and get Lebron and
ad best guys on the market, Kawhi is nonverbal and
aloof Harden is about Harden. Those guys are I mean,
(33:38):
let's be honest, Harden and Kawhi and to some degree
Westbrook are leave you wanting more first team so they
end up being a knockoff on the Lakers. Second tier
free agents, guys that aren't available, rigid guy, selfish guy,
guy that never delivers in May and June, and the
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ls have another, albeit bubble title, Lebron Anthony Davis, which
every roster in the league could use. So I think
the Clippers had all that money and should have built
loyalty and devotion, and the way to do that is
not bringing guys from out of town. But when you
do that, at least go get a California kid Paul George,
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who's available, plays hard on both ends and from Fresno State.
Let's be honest, He's easy to root for, and they
let him go. So in my opinion, not only did
they build the wrong way, but they didn't keep the
one guy you could wrap your arms around. You can't
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wrap your arms around Harden kind of wrap your arms
around Kawhi. He doesn't play in he's nonverbal. So they
got a lot of smart people in the building. But
LA doesn't do knockoffs. LA wants the real thing, even
the flawed real thing. Laker tickets almost twice as expensive.
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Place is sold out. I think they butchered it. So
what I'm about to say is actually a compliment. But
j Mack will not see it that way. So, uh,
let me talk about Tua for a second. For the
Miami Dolphins, there is a prototype player in the league
that is Tua. But Tyreek Hill says, listen, Tua could
(35:28):
hold out because he wants a new contract and they're
negotiating it. But Tyreek Hills superstar receiver says, I don't
think too a, too competitive, will hold out. I believe
he will practice because too he's very competitive.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
He would not tell you that, but he's very competitive,
and he's a he's a guy that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Like to fall too far behind, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And and he understands that we have a really good team,
and he doesn't want to miss miss his window. Like
I said, we got a great offense.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
You know, defensive is real good. It's looking real good
this year.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So he understands all of that. So I believe he's
gonna practice. You know what. I think. Tua is a
slightly more talented, left handed version of Brock Purty to
the same guy in the same system. Mike McDaniel runs
Kyle Shanahan's system, same offense, same system. Both To and
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Purty have brilliant offensive coaches. Both have stacked offensive weapons.
Both are smaller, Brock pretty intoa than you'd like. Both
are accurate, nice guys and coachable low ceilings. Both To
and brock Purty, in my opinion, will get overpaid their
rosters then will not be as dynamic, and you'll see
(36:44):
the truth. Both feel small, talented but small when they
face a Mahomes or a Stafford in a big game.
Both have made Pro Bowls due to production and brilliant
coaching and weapons. They're a little small, they're pretty good.
They they're not sensational, but they're going to get awards
and yards and paid a lot of money, and then
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the rosters aren't going to look the same. And that's
how you judge greatness. When Brady was winning super Bowls
with one wide receiver Julian Edelman that you could trust,
When Mahomes is winning a Super Bowl when Juju Smith,
Schuster or Rashi Rice is his top receiver, that's the difference.
That's really the difference is Josh Allen keeps winning. He's
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had bad old lines until last year, no run game,
and usually one receiver you like Joe Burrow got to
a super Bowl with an anemic, egregiously bad offensive line.
It's not what you do when you have a great
coach and a stacked roster, it's what you do when
you don't. Matt Stafford pulled that ram team into the
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playoffs that was not a playoff roster and almost won
a second playoff game. They had Detroit beat, they had
Baltimore beat in the regular season, Baltimore would start fifteen
guys in a twenty two man starting roster. What do
you do when everything's not perfect? And that's what happens
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when you get the bag as a b quarterback talent.
You notice the more the Cowboys rely on Dak, the
more he gets paid, the weapons go. They don't do
anything in January. I like to I think he's more
talented than Brock Purty, but there's a lot of similarities,
and they're both going to get paid and things are
(38:39):
going to change. That's a compliment, by the way, comparing
him to a first round quarterback. Did you take it
as a compliment, Uh, well.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
You're missing one small difference between these two two. Rock
Party's rookie deal four years, three point seven million dollars.
He's free, he's making he's free. Tua his rookie deal
four years, thirty million dollars. Okay, Brock Party's the best
bargain in sports right.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Now, that's not even close. Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, I think I would make the case that I
would pay Party in the forty five to fifty million
dollars range over Tua simply because of the injury history
that TUIs hat Party and I again, fewer starts into
a no, no real injuries yet, right, I don't think
he's got anything major.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Well, yeah, Party has remember the elbow.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, but that was in the NFC Championship game. Didn't
miss time because it was like, you know, the off season.
But he rebounded from that perfectly fine last season and
put up you know, I think numbers that made him.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Like I would, I would pay to more than Brock Pretty.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, okay, you can do that.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah I wouldn't. I would do that.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
You'd like to overpay quarterbacks anyway, So go go ahead.
It's fine. He deserves to get paid. But again, I
think the better story, Colin is when a coach and
a front office decide we're gonna just draft a quarterback
he was up his rookie deal, and then move on
and do it again and continue.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
That's the smartest and let somebody else overpay for Purty.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Right now, the problem is can you continue to find quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
The answer is no, that's the hardest thing you're doing.
You're not gonna find another Brock Party in the seventh round.
I mean, Kurt Warner and Romo were undrafted and until
Purty we hadn't really had a.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Round.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, that that was twenty five years ago, but I
mean it was Kurt Warner and Romol were the last. Like, wow,
Mark Brunell was drafted later, but seventh round, last pick
to this that that is once a decade.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
So you know how hard it is. Kyle Shanahan and
Lynch thought that the quarterback they drafted second overall was
the dude what was his name again.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Trey Lance?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Trey Lance.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
So that's hard. That's how I don't I don't criticize
gms for missing on quarterbacks. Outside of the Bears drafting Trubisky.
I don't even blame him for passing on Mahomes because
we didn't know what we didn't know. But Traubisky was
not a first round quarterback. Every GMI trust had told
me front leg, thrower, ball, dies, athletic, nice kid, not
a first round quarterback. But I generally it is hard
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to draft quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So shouldn't you do it every single year? Take one,
take a bite at the apple every year?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Well, Belichick, when Brady was in New England in his prime,
he would draft one every other year.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Didn't he draft Agroppolo right in the second round. What
about Brisett? Was that his or no or someone else's
because I think he had a couple okay dart throws.
Matt Cassel was like an undrafted dude.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
No Bill drafted quarterbacks every second or third year. I
think you should do that, even when you have a star.
I think got some way. Even if your quarterbacks in
his prime, you just by the way Andy Reidal draft them,
sit them, develop them, and go get a fourth round
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Speaker 2 (01:05):
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Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, let's scurry through this first segment so I can
go check it out. So sources this Morning Star Receivers,
Cdee Lamb says, I'm not showing up the Cowboy camp.
Go ahead and find me. I think because of their
scarcity of weapons, they just don't have much offensively right now.
He's going to get his money in a new contract,
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and then I think by the end of the year
they'll pony up the Brinks truck for Micah and Dak. Listen,
the last eight seasons have been pretty good for the Cowboys,
pretty good, better than most four division titles. Five playoff appearances,
a couple playoff wins in eight years isn't enough. But
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I think this season marks the slow, steady decline of
the Cowboys, and you thought you'd seen the worst of it.
Dak in his prime still probably late prime, will keep
you irrelevant. He's a B plus quarterback. But they are
going to and it'll start with Ceedee Lamb's contract get
absurdly top heavy. That's why they couldn't spend any money.
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They're too top heavy now in free agency. There's two
factors that really play into this steady decline. The NFC
was weak and wide open for the last several years,
and they couldn't take advantage of it. Now San Francisco, Detroit,
and Philadelphia are loaded have much better rosters than the Cowboys.
The Rams and the Packers have much better young talent.
(02:47):
Atlanta with Kirk Cousins, more good players offensively in an
offensive league, the Dallas and watch out because Chicago and
Washington could both have star young quarterbacks on rookie contracts
the next four years. Is dak is making Mahomes money
and limiting the Cowboys. I looked at their schedule this morning.
(03:08):
There are four games they should be heavily favored, the
Giants twice. Yeah, New Orleans and Carolina probably favored over
Tampa two. But it's close. Outside of that, every other
game is a coin flip and very losable. And in
most instances in this offensive league, the teams they play
have more good weapons. This is what happens when an
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eighty year year old man Jerry Jones. Eighty one year
old man Jerry Jones sees himself as the general manager,
and because he is front and center, he has leaned
on very vanilla coaching Parcels and Jimmy Johnson worked and
they're gone. It's been Jason Garrett, it's been Mike McCarthy.
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Both capable, but in situational football moments, did you trust either?
So the schedule is tough. They're going to get absurdly
top heavy. Ceedee Lamb probably wins this holdout. Their draft
was graded as average. They're clearly rebuilding the offensive line.
I'd call it uninspiring, and they didn't spend a nickel
(04:14):
in free agency. This to me marks the beginning of
a slow, steady decline for Dak's big money years, and
I presume he'll sign a four year deal in the
Patrick Mahomes range. Mark Sanchez yesterday sees the same issues.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Think about the difference between maybe Dak and the Cowboys
his rookie year and the talent he had around him,
the other explosive players. Who's going to help this team
elevate suddenly? And where are the weapons? Who am I
throwing to? Who's keeping the defensive coordinators up at night
like dang, what are we gonna do about this guy?
And that's you know, those are tough questions to ask
(04:58):
going into a season. You want to have those things
shirt up. So I think the lack of depth is
going to be tough and this is gonna be a
lot on Dak's plate.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Now some positive stories. Aaron Rodgers poking the media. Showed
up yesterday to camp wearing an Egyptian cat T shirt.
That's where he spent his time as he missed OTAs
many of you think I root against Aaron Rodgers, but
(05:28):
I'll give you a little behind the rope truth. Because
of the battle we're going to have between Trump, jd
Vance and Kamala Harris and whoever her VP pick is,
Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN are going to have huge
ratings in September, October, and November. That won't be good
for me or ESPN or anybody hosting a sports talk show.
(05:53):
So what do we need to survive until early November.
We'll be fine. In mid to late November to December, January, February,
people will be exhausted by political talk. But up to
the election, massive record breaking numbers, record breaking the Republican
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National Convention. Think about the history of Fox News, shattered
records and we're still months away. There are four stories
that can go a long way in keeping our little
telecasts interesting. Number One, Caleb Williams hits in Chicago, major market,
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iconic brand. He looks a little like Mahomes. Suddenly they're
scoring points and for the first time in all of
our lives, Chicago is a dynamic offense with the next
Patrick Mahomes. I think it's possible he'll make rookie mistakes.
But Cole Coment, Keenan Allen, Roma Dunze, DJ Moore, DeAndre
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Swift a better than you think offensive line. Not a
great defense in that division with Minnesota, Green Bay or Detroit.
It's possible. Is it probable? That would help us? Number
two Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers with Justin Herbert start quickly.
That's probable. The NFL did Jim Harbaugh solid. They open
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with the Raiders in Carolina, arguably the two worst teams
in the league if you look at their schedule. A
six and one start is not out of the realm
of possibility. Again, big market, star coach quiet, but a
star quarterback that would help us. The third story that
would probably do us some favors. The Dallas Cowboys implode.
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I mean it beats them being pretty good again. Mike
McCarthy blows a couple of early games with situational clock
management snaffoos. Dak is fine, but maybe the hold out
a lot of noise. They lose a game they should win,
and Dallas is rolling downhill. That probably for us is
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very very good content. And number four Aaron Rodgers chest out,
mocking the media crushes. He beats Josh Allen in the
first encounter. The NFL schedule is a lot of Aaron
and whether it's talking to Joe Rogan, it's talking to
his friends, he's a little cocky, a little aloof but
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he has got his chest out, he's playing great. The
offensive line comes together, Mike Williams talented, stays healthy, and
you look up and the New York Jets are six
to one through seven weeks heading into late October and
early November. If those four things happen, and if you
look at the schedule, they're all very probable, then we've
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got ourselves a fighting chance, a fighting chance. This will
be probably the most challenging September and October. Ever, I
should also throw out something else. USC beats LSU, and
Michigan is rolling, and the Big ten is on their heels,
(09:15):
fight on Trojans going downhill and the polarizing Lincoln Riley
is dropping forty two a game against the Big ten. Okay,
that may not happen, but that'd be a nice one too.
But just to let you know, what I predict and
what I'd love to see happen are two different things.
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Aaron winning, pointing fingers, attacking the media making fun of us.
Are you kidding me? You think it's good if he
gets hurt again? That's what I want. You think it's
good if they start one and six and nobody cares
about the entire market of New York. I want a
New York team to win, and the Giants have no shop.
(09:58):
So let's cross our fingers and hope the one team
that has a shot can win. J Mack, how about
that is a positive, optimistic, glass half full vibe to
start the show.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I love that segment, and I think you missed a couple.
I mean, Kansas City Chiefs going for a historic three
peat versus the Chiefs perhaps imploding. I mean, their offensive
line has a lot of questions. Brock Perdy and the
forty nine ers, they're billing this as the last dance.
If you will ask yourself this, like there's a lot.
Couldn't we argue the sing the two things that would
(10:31):
be great for our business? The Jets go to San
Francisco and beat the Niners soundly, and Caleb Williams has
four touchdowns against Tennessee and all of a sudden, it's
like we have our next Mahomes. Aaron Rogers is on
top of the world. Those two things. And I'll say this,
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ratings matter to us. This is what we do. It's
our livelihood. We sit in meetings all day trying to
figure out what you want to talk about, what you
are interested in. So Harbaugh, Rogers, Caleb Williams, Cowboy implosion.
Now those are all wins for us. Yeah, No, it's
very exciting. I mean I got kind of excited just
(11:13):
thinking about the season. Is it start next week?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
With it?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
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Speaker 1 (11:25):
So this is interesting. The WUNBA ratings are in for
the WNBA All Star Game against the US Women's Olympians,
and I don't know what happened, what's going on, but
it's smashed their all time, records destroyed them. They've played before,
the WNBA All Star Team and the USA Olympic Team.
(11:47):
They've played before and nobody watched, and this time they
smashed records, proving once again that Caitlin Clark is driving
revenue for the league and should be now on the team.
But she's not. I'll get to that in a second.
What's interesting, though, is with the Paris Olympics starting Wednesday,
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the league is now on hiatus until October or excuse me,
until August fifteenth, So the WNBA is not playing, meaning
Caitlin's not playing, and the Olympics will be playing, but
Caitlin's not part of that. I would suggest if the
league wasn't as tribal and petty, that not only Caitlin
Clark but Angel Reeths clearly both should have been put
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on the Olympic team. Did you watch the WNBA All
Stars that had Reese and Caitlin Clark against the Olympians.
Angel Reese got a double double in eighteen minutes. She's
been fantastic, overshadowed by Clark, and Caitlin Clark led everybody
in assists. Both could be near the end of the
bench and you'd watch two rivals now playing together, friends
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or at least colleagues on the same floor fighting for
the same Olympic gold in a tribal divided world, especially
with what the Olympics can bring uniting all of us,
we get very little of that. Wouldn't that be cool? Nah,
let's just wait four more years. We've talked about Caitlin
Clark being on the Olympic team, but why not Angel Reese.
(13:22):
She's been phenomenal. They're just different players. In eighteen minutes
she had twelve points and eleven rebounds against the Olympic team.
I don't care what lead you're in. That's phenomenal. And
I've said this, I don't want Caitlin Clark to win.
We got magic Bird here. That's what we should have.
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Caitlyn wins here, Angel wins there. Maybe Angel's team is better.
Caitlyn wins are more of personal awards. But eventually Caitlyn's
team gets good and then people recognize how great Angel
Reese is. So no Angel or Caitlin Clark for the
next month. As football camps open up, the WNBA will
(14:06):
now disappear, but women's basketball doesn't need to. If they
had Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark even back of the bench,
both playing together for the first time on the Olympic team.
You keep telling me these amazingly talented young women aren't
ready for it. I'll say it again, women's basketball is
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not quite ready on how to handle Kitlyn Clark and
Angel Reese. Here's j Mack with the news.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
This is the Herdline news.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
All right, let's get back to positive news. Bett Stafford
and the Rams. He showed up at camp with an
adjusted contract. I don't know if you saw this, but
earlier this year McVeigh said Stafford was looking for more
guaranteed money in his deal. McVeigh weirdly did not go
into the numbers of what the adjusted contract was, but
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he did say that it did not include an extension.
Very weird talking points here.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
From the Rams. Well, they also made a couple of
roster moves with Tyler Higbee. So what's going on there.
I wonder if it's a contract thing to save some money,
to give out some money. The bottom line is they
want Stafford and don't be surprised by the way, and
this is not a shot at Stafford. Their roster now
is pretty set. They probably need to draft to tackle
(15:28):
in another receiver next year. Don't be surprised at their
first pick late first rounds of quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Well, I'm surprised they didn't do that this year.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well, because they're going to give Matt Stafford two more
years to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, I mean they took a quarterback last year Stetson backs.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's a middle of the market in an average quarterback year,
he's never going to play. They're gonna go big game
hunting quarterback this next draft because the roster now with
all their defensive draft picks in the top the last
two years, is set. They're very young, very inexpensive, very talented.
They do need as Cooper cup Pages, they got to
get another receiver. They're set everywhere now. The old line's good.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Coca can't fly into the number one.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
That's one. You got to have four. So they need
more and they have to go get a tackle. Is
Havenstein right, tackles great, but he's getting old. But their
draft next year, they've only got a couple of needs. Tackle, receiver,
maybe another corner. They're going to go get a quarterback.
But what they want to do is give for the
next two years Stafford a chance to win a Super
Bowl because they think they can and and I don't
(16:27):
think they're wrong. You think I think they're in the bubble. Absolutely,
They're in that Baltimore, San Francisco, Philly bubble. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And the number one issue is Stafford holding up obviously.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
When he was so that's why. By the way, if
you notice what they did in the last two years,
they've spent money on guards. Nobody's getting to Stafford's feet.
So what they've really smartly done is he's aged. Is
they paid for guards, they drafted. Now they got a
center who's a stud, so they they've really done it
the right way. As he's aged. Like Brady and Tampa,
Grady had a great guard, center, guard combo and capable tackles.
(16:59):
That's what Staffords. That's what Russell Wilson did and in Denver,
Aaron didn't in New York and they know Regress they
don't play as well, so they are set up. They
just want to get Stafford in for two Super Bowl runs.
And then my guess is that third year Stafford maybe
number one, but they've got a in camp rookie second
year quarterback ready to roll. But I think they're gonna
(17:21):
go big game hunting on quarterback next year.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I am interested the pivot that they made. Remember it
was forget about draft picks, Screw the picks, we don't
need them. We got top heavy, hot, top end talent.
And now they've kind of pivoted back to, well, we
need picks, we need to refurbish the rosters.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well that's what they've done the last two years.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I think it's pretty impressive and quick on the flo
like they're doing it quickly, still competing.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
As you said, well, they knew two years ago that
Aaron Donald may retired. So if you look at their
top two picks the last couple of years, it's been
defensive tackles and edge rushers, and they've hit. I believe
they've hit on all of them. I think their two
rookies this year from Florida State are going to be sensational,
so they'll have more sacks this year than last year.
They'll miss Aaron Donald, but they have spent two years
(18:04):
knowing preparing for Aaron Jettison and.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Bullague offense is probably still like a top five, top
seven unit.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I mean this absolutely they're putting up.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Didn't They played Baltimore last year tougher than anybody had them.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
When Baltimore was crushing San Francisco, blowing out Detroit, hammering Miami,
they went to Baltimore across country and had them beat late.
I think it did, but that they outplayed them. So
this team is they draft well, they developed well, a
plus coach, a quarterback. I think they're a super Bowl
(18:36):
bubble team.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, okay, all right, let's go to a non super
Bowl bubble team, the Denver Broncos. Weirdly, they have not
yet settled on their starting Qbuh. They drafted Bo Knicks,
they brought in Zach Wilson, and they kept jaredt Stidham.
They're all competing for the top spot, and Sean Payton
said they're still figuring out who will be QB one
(18:57):
for Week one.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Up again. Obviously won't stay that way for the long term,
but as we get started, we'll keep you posted and
eventually we'll settle into the routine we want. I'm not
going to sit here and lay out like here's how
it goes, because I think the mistake made is deciding
(19:20):
how it goes. We'll see a rotation initially and then
and then we'll move on from there.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Very excited. They are my rams of last year. PFF
has been the worst roster in the league. No way,
no way, Carolina, the Giants. Carolina got a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Of We're not going to go there. Now. Let me ask,
do you think that he knows who his quarterback is
for week one or nice? Ye? Yes, you think it's
Nicks as a loss, Yeah, it would be a tough
sell to the fan base to draft Knicks and then
start Zach Wilson week one. I think that would be
very awkward. Stidham's been in the offense longer than Wilson has.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Right year, Zach Wilson blows people owy at practice, justin fields,
blows people oy in practice, live games. I'm gonna go
with bow Nix and I don't think their rosters nearly
as bad as people. I think they have an elite
left tackle, an elite receiver, an elite coach, an elite guard,
(20:20):
an elite corner.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well, hold on, hold on, I'm looking at the elite
number one receivers Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He's not a number one, yes he is. He's very
good player. Mims the excellent number two. Two excellent receivers
got Jerry Judy out of the way that he was.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I can't believe you don't like him. Javonte Williams is
a nice running back. Offensive line had some holes. Question
at center, left guard mcglinchy kind of underperformed last year coming.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Over the great at left guard. I think they'll overcome that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And then Patrick chartan very good cornerback, elite, maybe.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Nice safety guard they've got. They've got a great safety.
Active young linebackers, semi young lineback. We'll see you need
an add rusher.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You know, I was gonna float to the staff. I
probably should have done this off air. You know how
we did a quarterback draft. We should do an over
under bets draft where you get like your favorite Oh,
I like that, and then I get my favorite over
under because it sounds like you're talking yourself into the
Broncos over oh.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
That I've already made the bet. Done, already made the bet.
I think they're I think Minnesota and Denver are my
rams last year and my Minnesota. So two years ago,
I took Minnesota over. I was right. Last year. I
took the Rams, and I was right. I think Denver
and Minnesota are both my overs. This whole five and
(21:39):
a half wins. Sean Peyton can't go seven and ten,
give me a break. The Raiders are two w's right there. Ooh,
you can't find seven wins in there.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Listen, you better get that win against Seattle.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Let me ok, just for our radio audience, I'll be
optimistic Colin Sean Payton out duels a rookie staff and
geno in week one, and then it's.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Going on the road in hostile Seattle in week one
and winning.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Against the rookie coach. By the way, Pittsburgh get home
if you go to the history of Denver and high
altitude at home in September. One of the best teams.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
But that's a Russell Wilson revenge game.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Again. They get the Raiders week five, the Saints, the Panthers,
they get to buy before Anthony Richardson, who we hope
is healthy. I mean again, they face a lot of
teams here, Atlanta at home, Steelers at home, Tampa Carol line.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Do you think maybe they eclipse the win total before
the bye week in week fourteen, because it better happened. Listen,
seventeen and eighteen Bengals and Chiefs. You're not one of
those that's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
For number one. They're gonna eclipse that five win total
by the bye week in Week fourteen. I do not
buy They're a terrible roster. Don't buy it at all
at all.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
All right, let's go to the final story, and that
is to the Jets. Yes, Scarett Wilson, the stud receiver
for the Jets, top eight receiver in the league, without
a without a doubt. He's watched a lot of receivers
get big contract extensions, and he's eligible for one after
the twenty twenty four season. Garrett Wilson spoke about wanting
to earn his spot among the league's top wideouts.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
I see all of it. You know, I don't look
at it as far as that could be coming from.
I look at it as I got to go make
that happen. You know, I got the opportunity to join
an elite group of guys, and you know that's who
gets that type of money. As an elite group of guys.
You know, guys that are part of teams that win
games because of them, and and you know, our difference
makers every single time there on the field. That's not
(23:39):
how I'm motivated, But but I'm not gonna sit here
and act like I don't see.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It very exciting. Jmac so his.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Numbers the last couple of years with no quarterbacks somewhat staggered.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
No, he's good.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
He's sort of good. He's cool, and he also appears
to be humble, like he seems like a nice kid.
He's not going to social media and.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Ohio State product obviously. Listen, he caught ninety five passes
and the passes were from like Tim Boyle and Zach
Wilson put up massive numbers.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Dad, he's a touchdown. He's a great young player, and
he's he appears to be a great young guy. No,
I mean, look at his numbers considering the quarterback play
are phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
He's eclipsed all other Jet receivers in the last two season.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
He's he's a great one.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I mean, that's why Mike Williams opposite.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I remember when Ohio State used to furnish the NFL
with linebackers and backs. Now it's receivers. The receivers are
the best, some of the best in the league, while
Ohio State has become it's so funny this midway. I
grew up with Ohio State. It was Woody Hayes and
pound the football. They've become wide receiver. You, I mean
they got they got. Harrison's going to be a star.
Wilson's a star. Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
You got a change with the wind, you know, the
football changes. You gotta adapt. They've done a good job.
And listen, I don't want to get too excited about
the jet skills.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Lave is another one with the Saints. He's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
He doesn't have a quarterback either. But Garrett Wilson and
Breese Hall, if you're just looking at top receiver, top
running back duos, I mean they're in discussion for the
best one two punch, very running back, very elite. You
can say elite priest. Hall is like top three running
back here, Wilson top eight. I mean, listen, this is.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
We don't need to put it in top.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Everything's got to be us.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
They're good and we were happy with their good. Who's
happy with good? Most of America?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Not us.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
We have such high standards.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Day not like us. Can I say that?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Are you done? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I saw this story and I thought was pretty
interesting that Kyle Shanahan San Francisco forty nine Ers, very
smart offensive head coach Dad was a great coach too,
offered Bill Belichick a role on his staff, and Bill
Belichick turned it down. So here's here is Kyle Shanahan
(25:57):
on the TK Show podcast with Tim co Comi of
the Athletic. Here's the sound.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
The head coach of a team right now. I know
what I would do if I was an owner, So
that shocks me. And the last thing you want to
do is insult someone like Bill Belichick. But I know
he just loves Paul in the simplest form, So I
think it all out to him like.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Whatever he'd wanted to do. See he's he politely turned
me down. I actually think Belichick, who turned it down,
was smart to turn it down. He doesn't need to
grind and be on the treadmill. He needs to self
reflect and analyze a broader view of the league. Because
when Brady left, Bill didn't struggle, He crashed. The roster's awful.
(26:39):
The offense was in nept his quarterback handling was brutal,
His staff retreads post Brady, Bill was a mess. Drafting
not great, Winning disappeared even the stuff Bill was known
to be great at, like details and situational football was haphazard.
(27:00):
Belichick crashed, and there's one way to fix that. It's
not grinding on a staff. It's looking in the mirror,
making calls, visiting camps. Dude can coach, there's no question
about that. But if you're gonna give him control of
the football operation, you're romanticizing what happened. This wasn't a
(27:23):
slow decline. Pretty but no, that's what we're going to
see with the Cowboys over the next three years. It
was they couldn't get their roster right. The offense was
a knemic. Whatever he did to mac Jones didn't work.
Matt Patricia is an offensive coordinator, like it was embarrassing.
(27:45):
The offense was the weakest next to Carolina in the league.
So once you're a legend, by the way, you can't
open the show like Paul McCartney could be ninety four.
He's never opening for anybody. Bon Jovi, they don't open
for anybody. I don't care if John bon Jovi's bald.
At some point, he's not opening for anybody. Legends don't
(28:09):
do the undercard, So same with Connor McGregor, no undercards,
not interested, even though he didn't win fights anymore. J
mack Nick right top of the show, Tyreek Hill has
some kind words about Tua, but Paul George said something
(28:30):
and about the Clippers being the little brother of the Lakers.
And what's interesting is when Steve Balmer, the richest owner
in the NBA, bought the franchise, they had a couple
of different directions to go, and as brilliant as Balmer is,
did he go the direction that's the opposite of the
(28:52):
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Speaker 1 (30:32):
You know, I like Paul George analytically, one of the
more underrated players of the last decade. But he couldn't
get through Lebron in the East and so or you know,
when he was in Cleveland or when he was in Miami,
he couldn't get past him. And then it comes out
to Los Angeles and well it's the Clippers. And so
(30:55):
he was on a podcast recently and it's it's interesting
he talked about because he's in Fresno state. He's a
California kid, easy to root for, nice guy, plays on
both ends of the floor. I always found him an
incredibly easy guy to root for, especially if you're in California,
and was willing said listen, I want to go back home,
which is always a great story. But he was on
(31:17):
a podcast recently and said being a Clipper can be tough.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I think initially, you know what I mean, coming back
to La, that's that was home when I first came
back to LA.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
But it ain't.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
It's not the same love because when I was in LA,
they like, man, you should have been a Laker.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It wasn't no like, oh, welcome.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
To the clippery you in LA, but you should have
been a Laker second team. I'm on the Betams. That's
that's how the the vibe and the love felt.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So no matter how much money you have, And Steve
Balmer is the first or second richest owner in the NBA.
In Los Angeles, you need to win and win big.
It's an incredibly just acted city. And the Clippers have
had Lob City. They now have the richest owner, a
cool new arena coming Harden Kawhi Westbrook. But the last
(32:09):
five years, the Lakers have Lebron and a d and
another title and two Western Conference Finals trips, and the
Clippers have Hey, is Kawhi available tonight? The Rams have
two Super Bowls in the eight years they've been in LA.
(32:30):
The Dodgers have twenty one division titles in their history.
The Lakers have Lebron ad and seventeen titles. And the
Chargers have harbaughn a star quarterback. And here comes usc
entering the Big ten, and the Clippers have Hey, you
want to go watch James Harden? You can buy a
lot of things, but what you can't buy is loyalty
(32:51):
and devotion. And as the Clippers move into their new arena,
two things are also true. They have no banners or
no retired jerseys of all time great players, just a
cool arena and really really wealthy owner. I would argue
Steve Ballmer should have taken the Oklahoma City Tact, young, draft,
(33:18):
develop and build a culture within. What the Clippers try
to do is be a knockoff version of the Lakers.
So whereas Los Angeles can go and get Lebron and
ad best guys on the market, Kawhi is nonverbal and
aloof Harden is about Harden. Those guys are I mean,
(33:38):
let's be honest, Harden and Kawhi and to some degree
Westbrook are leave you wanting more first team so they
end up being a knockoff on the Lakers. Second tier
free agents, guys that aren't available, rigid guy, selfish guy,
guy that never delivers in May and June, and the
(33:59):
ls have another, albeit bubble title, Lebron Anthony Davis, which
every roster in the league could use. So I think
the Clippers had all that money and should have built
loyalty and devotion, and the way to do that is
not bringing guys from out of town. But when you
do that, at least go get a California kid Paul George,
(34:24):
who's available, plays hard on both ends and from Fresno State.
Let's be honest, He's easy to root for, and they
let him go. So in my opinion, not only did
they build the wrong way, but they didn't keep the
one guy you could wrap your arms around. You can't
(34:44):
wrap your arms around Harden kind of wrap your arms
around Kawhi. He doesn't play in he's nonverbal. So they
got a lot of smart people in the building. But
LA doesn't do knockoffs. LA wants the real thing, even
the flawed real thing. Laker tickets almost twice as expensive.
(35:05):
Place is sold out. I think they butchered it. So
what I'm about to say is actually a compliment. But
j Mack will not see it that way. So, uh,
let me talk about Tua for a second. For the
Miami Dolphins, there is a prototype player in the league
that is Tua. But Tyreek Hill says, listen, Tua could
(35:28):
hold out because he wants a new contract and they're
negotiating it. But Tyreek Hills superstar receiver says, I don't
think too a, too competitive, will hold out. I believe
he will practice because too he's very competitive.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
He would not tell you that, but he's very competitive,
and he's a he's a guy that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Like to fall too far behind, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And and he understands that we have a really good team,
and he doesn't want to miss miss his window. Like
I said, we got a great offense.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
You know, defensive is real good. It's looking real good
this year.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So he understands all of that. So I believe he's
gonna practice. You know what. I think. Tua is a
slightly more talented, left handed version of Brock Purty to
the same guy in the same system. Mike McDaniel runs
Kyle Shanahan's system, same offense, same system. Both To and
(36:23):
Purty have brilliant offensive coaches. Both have stacked offensive weapons.
Both are smaller, Brock pretty intoa than you'd like. Both
are accurate, nice guys and coachable low ceilings. Both To
and brock Purty, in my opinion, will get overpaid their
rosters then will not be as dynamic, and you'll see
(36:44):
the truth. Both feel small, talented but small when they
face a Mahomes or a Stafford in a big game.
Both have made Pro Bowls due to production and brilliant
coaching and weapons. They're a little small, they're pretty good.
They they're not sensational, but they're going to get awards
and yards and paid a lot of money, and then
(37:07):
the rosters aren't going to look the same. And that's
how you judge greatness. When Brady was winning super Bowls
with one wide receiver Julian Edelman that you could trust,
When Mahomes is winning a Super Bowl when Juju Smith,
Schuster or Rashi Rice is his top receiver, that's the difference.
That's really the difference is Josh Allen keeps winning. He's
(37:32):
had bad old lines until last year, no run game,
and usually one receiver you like Joe Burrow got to
a super Bowl with an anemic, egregiously bad offensive line.
It's not what you do when you have a great
coach and a stacked roster, it's what you do when
you don't. Matt Stafford pulled that ram team into the
(37:54):
playoffs that was not a playoff roster and almost won
a second playoff game. They had Detroit beat, they had
Baltimore beat in the regular season, Baltimore would start fifteen
guys in a twenty two man starting roster. What do
you do when everything's not perfect? And that's what happens
(38:17):
when you get the bag as a b quarterback talent.
You notice the more the Cowboys rely on Dak, the
more he gets paid, the weapons go. They don't do
anything in January. I like to I think he's more
talented than Brock Purty, but there's a lot of similarities,
and they're both going to get paid and things are
(38:39):
going to change. That's a compliment, by the way, comparing
him to a first round quarterback. Did you take it
as a compliment, Uh, well.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
You're missing one small difference between these two two. Rock
Party's rookie deal four years, three point seven million dollars.
He's free, he's making he's free. Tua his rookie deal
four years, thirty million dollars. Okay, Brock Party's the best
bargain in sports right.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Now, that's not even close. Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, I think I would make the case that I
would pay Party in the forty five to fifty million
dollars range over Tua simply because of the injury history
that TUIs hat Party and I again, fewer starts into
a no, no real injuries yet, right, I don't think
he's got anything major.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Well, yeah, Party has remember the elbow.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, but that was in the NFC Championship game. Didn't
miss time because it was like, you know, the off season.
But he rebounded from that perfectly fine last season and
put up you know, I think numbers that made him.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Like I would, I would pay to more than Brock Pretty.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, okay, you can do that.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah I wouldn't. I would do that.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
You'd like to overpay quarterbacks anyway, So go go ahead.
It's fine. He deserves to get paid. But again, I
think the better story, Colin is when a coach and
a front office decide we're gonna just draft a quarterback
he was up his rookie deal, and then move on
and do it again and continue.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
That's the smartest and let somebody else overpay for Purty.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Right now, the problem is can you continue to find quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
The answer is no, that's the hardest thing you're doing.
You're not gonna find another Brock Party in the seventh round.
I mean, Kurt Warner and Romo were undrafted and until
Purty we hadn't really had a.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Round.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, that that was twenty five years ago, but I
mean it was Kurt Warner and Romol were the last. Like, wow,
Mark Brunell was drafted later, but seventh round, last pick
to this that that is once a decade.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
So you know how hard it is. Kyle Shanahan and
Lynch thought that the quarterback they drafted second overall was
the dude what was his name again.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Trey Lance?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Trey Lance.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
So that's hard. That's how I don't I don't criticize
gms for missing on quarterbacks. Outside of the Bears drafting Trubisky.
I don't even blame him for passing on Mahomes because
we didn't know what we didn't know. But Traubisky was
not a first round quarterback. Every GMI trust had told
me front leg, thrower, ball, dies, athletic, nice kid, not
a first round quarterback. But I generally it is hard
(41:06):
to draft quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So shouldn't you do it every single year? Take one,
take a bite at the apple every year?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Well, Belichick, when Brady was in New England in his prime,
he would draft one every other year.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Didn't he draft Agroppolo right in the second round. What
about Brisett? Was that his or no or someone else's
because I think he had a couple okay dart throws.
Matt Cassel was like an undrafted dude.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
No Bill drafted quarterbacks every second or third year. I
think you should do that, even when you have a star.
I think got some way. Even if your quarterbacks in
his prime, you just by the way Andy Reidal draft them,
sit them, develop them, and go get a fourth round
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