May 6, 2025 • 43 mins
Colin dissects the Celtics losing a 4th quarter lead and dropping game 1 against the Knicks largely due to their commitment to taking as many 3's as possible
Thoughts on the Thunder losing to the Nuggets in game 1 and why young teams usually fail in the playoffs
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh here we go. What a night in the association.
It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Jmat as a Knicks fan, probably feeling really good right.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
About now, gity downright giddy about not only the Knick swimming,
but how about the Choklahoma City thunder.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Absolutely gagging Colin I was lasting.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's not a cliche when we say don't trust young
teams in the playoffs. They would have been better off
being on the road. They could feel it. They got tight,
their coach got tight, everybody got set home. Wow, all right,
let's start with this. Okay, the Celtics lost at home. Bizarrely,
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they're not even that good at home. They're actually a
better road team, Nick fans, I've never seen a game
one upset. That means less. This is the only game
the Knicks are gonna win. Boston's not gonna miss forty
five threes. I know. Enjoy the moment, Nick fans, you
are feeling it today. Oh give me a break. Boston
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got a twenty point lead. They hammered this team all year,
they fell asleep, and then they just took bad shots.
Jason Tatum, he froze. He does that from time to time.
He does it much more than any of his fan
boys want to admit. It was the classic Jason Tatum
game late where you're like, is he on the floor?
Is he playing? Where's Jason Tatum? But the Knicks wings
og pl well McHale bridges, they were running off shooters,
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defended well. They deserve credit. But the Celtics had the
third fewest layups in the league and the fewest free throws.
What does it mean shots? They don't. They just live
and die with a three. And like those great Warrior
teams when Stephan Clay weren't hitting them, they had bad nights.
They got blown out multiple times in the finals. So
(02:23):
I mean Boston, they don't get labs, they don't shoot
mid range, they don't get to the free throw line.
They're shooting sixty threes. And last night, I mean in
the second half in overtime or second half yeah, and overtime, Yeah,
they shot forty nine shots. Thirty seven were threes. And
I will defend Jason Tatum later on in this show
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because I think he's a little bit trapped with this team.
But the reality is, you see this from Boston, and strangely,
it's often at home. They're a great road team, they're
a better road team than the home team. But they
have these nights and you know, Jason Tatum, no, but
he wants to admit it, but he has these collaborative
nights where he's just settling for bad shots. And again
(03:08):
I think he could draw more fouls. But this is
what Boston is. They're going to be fine. The Knicks
have absolute offensive limitations. It's gonna be okay. Boston's not
gonna shoot like this. I mean, the first quarter was
classic Knicks. They were out playing Boston. Boston was rusty,
and the Knicks kept missing free throws. They couldn't get
the free throws, right, I was on moneyline Knicks first
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quarter two J Mack. They couldn't hit free throws. So
the Knicks have an absolute ceiling. But Boston they give
you one of these every so often. And I've said
before they remind me a lot of the Warriors team.
But back when the Warriors were shooting all the threes,
the rest of the league was not. But Boston leads
the league in threes. They don't get to the free
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throw line, they don't create layups or mid range shots.
So when they have one of these awful shooting halves,
I mean they led by twenty. They dominate this team.
And we've said this all the time. In the NFL.
You'll see a team lead twenty eight to seven at
half and the game ends like thirty one twenty seven,
and you're like, we were so close that it's not
really It's hard to ask athletes who dominate an opponent
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over and over and over to always bring their a
game in Boston had a bad second half, settled for
too many bad shots. And here's Jalen Brown after the loss.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I feel like we just settled in the second half
a lot. Some of them felt good, some of them
felt like we may be forced to issue in Definitely,
our rhythm and our timing was a little bit off.
We got a lot of great looks. Those moments when
the other team got momentum. We can't and just fire
up threes, you know, to break up momentum, gotta get
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to the free throw line, gets it a pay and
gets hit a basket.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
They're going to be just fined, and Jason Tatum is
going to be us fine, and I'll defend him in
about ten minutes. All right, Let's go to the opposite
of the Boston Celtics, literally the opposite team, the Denver Nuggets,
who has an underdog went into okase and dominated the
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late game situations. The Nuggets shoot the fewest threes in
the NBA. They live at the free throw line because
Jokic can create so many opportunities around the basket. And Jokic,
unlike Tatum, is a coach on the floor, does not
care if he offends people. Is mostly collaborative, but sometimes
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he takes over. And if you go to the fourth quarter,
okse got tight. The young, nervous, at times terrified, thunder
at home froze. They froze. And this was Yokic at
his best coaching and playing. He is the anti Kawhi.
He communicates with everybody I mean, obviously he empowers Aaron
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Gordon and so Westbrook, but it should be noted Jamal
Murray as well. I mean this right now, there was
a time when Michael Jordan, I've told the story before.
I was on a couch watching Michael Jordan against the
Phoenix Suns in the final and with a with a
with a friend who's a great basketball player, and I said,
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why can't there be more Michaels. I mean, he's not
the strongest player or the biggest player. He's not the
best ball handler, the best shooter. The NBA average size
is sixty six. He's six six, kind of thin. I mean,
I know he can jump, but Dominique at a higher
vertical Michael was so much better than even Charles Barkley,
you know, like even a team. And you watch Jokic.
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He is so far and away the best basketball player
in the world. And now he's also the best player coach,
which Bill Russell did for a while. I mean, you
got Tatum, he can freeze, You got Jannis, don't trust him,
late can't hit a free throw. You got him beat
he's never healthy. You got Kawhi weird personality. You've got
Luca who's not in great shape and is not willing
to defend. And for the record, not only is Yokch
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flawless offensively, he's actually an improved defensive player. He looks
like he's in better shape. So again, this game was
not just Yokich, although he was remarkable. Westbrook once again
gives you so many tools in the bag, including improved shooting.
Congrats to a shooting coach. Also, Aaron Gordon is another
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one of these guys. I was talking before the show
to Jmac, that young player for Houston. I love a
Men Thompson. Aaron Gordon's like a bigger, stronger, more experienced
version of a Men Thompson. He just does everything. Rebounds,
block shots late in games, tipping it, defending length, relentless energy,
and he hits the game winner last night. And what
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I love about Yokich is this mentality. Here's an organization
that went through a coaching change a week before the playoffs,
so you can see yolkicic on the sideline. He's literally like,
you know, we're all like, we got to be included
in this. If you go back to that Clipper Denver series,
this is what the Clippers needed and they have a
(08:08):
great coach in Tylou. But Kawhi doesn't provide that, and
Harden certainly doesn't provide that. It's always excuses for those two.
Here is Jokic saying, yeah, I'm not going to be stoic.
It's not a time to be stoic. He is coaching,
he is playing, he is elevating and but but again,
not at all a guy that has to take the
(08:30):
last shot. It's Westbrook and Aaron Gordon who combined for
the last shot. And here's Jokic after he's the.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Soul of this team. He's a glue guy. He's PA
doesn't give him much respect does he deserve? But I
think he doesn't need no attention. So he knows what
he's doing. So I'm happy for him.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
A remarkable, remarkable night. And we were talking about this.
There are a lot of cliches in basketball, right in
all sports. But don't trust young guys in the playoffs.
People always say to me, you don't respect OKC. It's
not that I don't respect them, I don't trust them.
I respect a lot of people, love many, trust few.
(09:10):
I don't trust Okac. In a big spot chat, Holmgren
was nervous the coach was nervous. And by the way, OKAYC,
he's one of those collaborative teams. You get it and
I get it. But to be honest with you, I
want to Skja with the ball. That's why I want
shooting every shot eight straight. I wish Tatum. You know
Sga in the regular season, he's a machine. But when
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you get into these playoff games. That's why OKC played
no close games this year. Minnesota led the NBA in
close games and clutch moments. So here you get OKC
rolling everybody, and it's like, oh wait, we're the favorite.
Denver's older and wiser, all these great players. How many
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playoff games is Westbrook and Jokich and Murray and Gordon
Okasey got tight? They're not in close games. This isn't
college football where if you're winning by three touchdowns you
just have better players. I mean, I would argue O
Casey's got a deeper roster, but if you're giving me
a starting five and I get Jokich and Murray and Gordon,
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and then I get like a Westbrook, who's a spark plug.
We talked about this yesterday. The betting markets have O
Casey is an overwhelming favorite time out. Young teams do
not sweep veteran teams with a trophy who have been
in these games. We've been trying to bury the Warriors
for six years. Denver's not going anywhere. That is a
(10:37):
really good team. J Mack. By the way, Steph didn't
play last night. Lebron didn't play last night, and the
league was fine.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Ow, it's it's one night. We get Jalen Brunson last
night put on a brook.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
How good is Jylan?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
We need to start honestly putting him in context with
his greatness.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Jalen Brunson is magnificent to watch.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I know you love him, right, Yes, I have one
of your favorite players, really really like him as a player. Now,
next hour to start Nick Wright. But I am so
I do four predictions before the NFL season. This will
be my second. Okay, So I do the coaching and
free agencies all done, and then I do the coaching
free agency draft is all done. So forty five minutes
(11:22):
from now, I'll tell you who I have some changes,
mostly middle and bottom of divisions. You're not going to
like all of them. And then we have Nick right
as well.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Are the forty nine ers on your playoff? Are they
in there?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Just miss by six games?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Six?
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Speaker 1 (12:08):
So listen. I could beat up on Jason Tatum today,
but there's so much I like about him. Smart, thoughtful, collaborative,
good teammate, great player. So let me put this. You know,
Phil Jackson is the greatest basketball coach, and Steve Kurrz
pretty good, and so is Spolstra. There's a lot of
good coaches Papovich, but Phil Jackson was the zen master
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and he did the triangle offense. But there was also
times that Phil knew alm all back up, Kobe's on
a heater. I'm gonna let Michael do what Michael's doing.
And I say this all the time, about business. You
can't get too rigid. You gotta make exceptions every day
at this company, you gotta make an exception. You can
(12:50):
have values, you can have vision. But here's where I'm
gonna defend Jason Tatum. So he had another one of
those nights where he lacked aggressiveness and it looks like
he was one in nine in fourth quarter and overtime.
So listen, Steph had bad nights. I saw a finals
game Michael Jordan against Utah. He had a bad night.
Kobe had bad nights, Shack had bad nights. That's okay.
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What I don't want is my super talented athletic six'
eight wing with great handles settling for. Threes but The
celtics three point culture is demanding. It so it Puts Jason,
tatum a, collaborative nice, guy in a weird. Spot his
free throw numbers have gone down three straight. Years why
because The celtics want more threes Than if you shoot,
threes you don't get to the free throw. Line that's
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why it Took Jimmy butler for The warriors to finally
get to the three point. Line So tatum can easily
beat guys off the dribble all night, long but he
keeps getting to the free throw line less and less
because The celtics are. Paralyzed they have this culture where
they're just. Paralyzed we got to shoot fifty five, threes
AND i think it Puts Jason, tatum a nice guy
(13:55):
in a collaborative, guy in a weird. Spot so last,
NIGHT i mean, again If kobe was on this, team
he would Get missoula. FIRED i, Mean Michael jordan would
Have missoula going upstairs. Daily michael would fight this, stuff
And Phil jackson understood sometimes you just gotta let special.
(14:16):
Happen and last, night nine seconds, left game is. TIED
i don't one of three From Jason. TATUM i want to,
bucket put it on the deck and beat your, man,
which by the, way he. Can he's a brilliant basketball.
Player but The celtics shoot more. THREES i mean they
literally last in THE nba in free throw attempts and
(14:38):
third to last in. Layups it's like when they're, bad
they just. Settle and SO i think there are coaches
SOMETIMES i Think Jayson tatum should just impose his will
and deal with the repercussions. Later who cares If missoula
yells At, yet they're not going to Fire. Tatum they'd
move off a coach before they'd move Off Jason. Tatum
(15:00):
this is just it's kind of Like Bobby knight, basketball, Right,
like this is the way we play. Basketball players more
than any, athlete along with soccer, stars they're. Artists you
have to let them improvise basketball at its. Best they
call soccer the beautiful game because it is the great.
Players they just need. Opportunities you just gotta Let ronaldo
(15:21):
do his, thing play out of structure from time to.
Time it doesn't mean you're blowing up. Structure you're not
creating a. Precedent Says Jason. Tatum is the best, player,
dude it's your. Ball next. Three just get to the,
basket get to the, line get out of the culture
in the system that's paralyzed by. Three so, Again tatum
(15:42):
is such a nice guy and he is such a
great collaborative player THAT i watch his body. Language there
are times that's like and By you can watch him
put the ball in the deck and immediately beat his.
Guy he could get to the basket all night, long
but he's gonna play within the. System he's A duke
guy And celtic guy and the culture does. Work but
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last night you got nine seconds left and it, Again
jason just go get. Fouled he's a brilliant player WHO
i believe at, times not all the, time but at
times feels he's a little trapped by this three point
culture that doesn't want mid. RANGE i, mean look at
the shots fourth quarter and. Overtime look at the second
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half shots from The. CELTICS i mean they just. Settle
that's what they. Do that's why they never get to
the free throw. Lines why The warriors Before, jimmy they
don't get to the free throw. Line Here's tatum After
how do you.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Not let your frustrating with lack of calls prevents you
from attacking if you don't think you're gonna get a?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Call is that is?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That is that connected at? All?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
NO i don't.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
CONNECT i mean it's the. Playoffs you know we probably
just play without the. Reps We it's how physical it.
Is h something you know that don't really cross cross
my mind at.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
All by the, Way Matt stafford Super, Bowl, Yeah i'm
not even gonna look Where i'm. Throwing Remember sean mcvah
in the sidelines With Aaron. Donald aaron's gonna blow this
Playoff Lawrence. Taylor Sometimes lawrence is gonna line up Where
lawrence wants to line. Up i'm not anti, structure But
(17:20):
Jason tatum can beat every, guy every wing in the.
League he can beat off the dribble four out of five.
Times Sometimes i'm not looking for a, Three i'm looking
for a. Bucket jymck with a.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
News, No, no.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
This is the Herd line news and caught me off
guard a little bit, There.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
COLIN i like you saying nice things about.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You've got to come into the show well. RESTED i
keep you on your.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Toe my, Guy Jason, data well let's. Go let's go
to a GUY i don't know if you're in on him.
Yet luka Donet he Is Los Angeles. Laker they lose
in the first. Round, however The lakers are reportedly fully
committed To luca now ahead of a possible extension negotiation this.
Summer lucas no longer eligible for that three hundred and
forty five million dollars Super, max but he could still
(18:06):
make four, year two hundred and twenty eight million dollar
deal with The. Lakers, kyle this feels like a no.
Breaker you get Into luca, Business let's load, Up let's
get him on a weight. Program, PERHAPS i don't, know
get him On Lebron Well Anthony.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Davis give The lakers. Credit Anthony, davis who used to
make fun of the dad. Bod he. Is last couple
of years IN la he was in great. Shape he
didn't he wasn't. Injured SO i, MEAN i tend to
think the age Very you've ever seen anybody that's like
sixty years old and they look. GREAT i don't have
to see what they had for. DINNER i know it was.
FISH i know they don't smoke or drink too. Much
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like you can watch AN nba player look At Dwayne.
WADE i Knew Dwayne wade was really intentional with his
diet and his, body like like you could even see to.
ME i don't know what he. Weighs But jokic looks
in better shape this year than. Last he's a better.
Defender luca doesn't look like he's terribly intentional about the
(19:04):
diet and being in the world's best.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Shade, yeah, unfortunately that's.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
FAIR i will say the numbers that they split up
With luca and without him for The lakers.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Shocker Without, luca they were actually kind of sort of.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Good defensively is the one to, Watch so everybody, thinks,
like Oh lucas.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So bad, Defensively there was really no margin.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
There, well that's because people score on The lakers regardless
because they don't have a rim protect.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
They don't have a room.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Protect, hey The knicks don't have a rim. Protector and
The celtics, decided let's shoot sixty.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
THREE i think The.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Lakers are gonna be fine, Again get, go Get Miles.
Turner let's not Trade Austin.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Reeves let's not.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Overreact they're gonna be. Fine next, up ANOTHER nba. Story, Now,
COLIN i firmly believe we should be Doing giannis as
often As Aaron rodgers because he is on the way
out the door In. Milwaukee according To Howard beck Of The,
ringer AND i need you to.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Listen to this because it's a little sound a long.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Time you, know he has been around.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Long time and not a, newsbreaker but just a solid.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Reporter he's saying that it looks like early On giannis
could be headed to a big market.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Team here you.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Go it's The Damian lillard conundrum Where it's, like maybe
we should have moved off of him. Sooner but you
can't Trade Damian lillard unless he has to be. Traded,
oh he has to be. Traded, cool right, now let's.
MOVE i think it's the same thing With. Milwaukee Does
janis ask? Out if he, does does he have a?
List some rumblings that it's already just the big. Cities it's,
it's you, know one of THE la teams or one
of The New york, teams or Maybe miami not big
(20:30):
market but glamour, market mid sized. MARKET i THINK i
think they Threw chicago in. THERE i can't remember If
houston came.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Up it should, guys It's.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Houston houston makes. Sense they have a lot of.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Ammas oh they've got four good young but now they're
gonna Watch shangoon AND i would demand, it But houston
will make this work in a. Second and by the,
way If houston would make it, work they would Keep
Amen thompson for. Sure but the truth Is, milwaukee when
you give up a, superstar you're not gonna win the, trade.
Right but that doesn't mean When milwaukee got read mid
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seventy is A luell Center at the time they were
relevant for a decade because they got so much. Back
So milwaukee is gonna get a. Haul don't just get
draft picks obviously you can't in THE nba because the,
salaries and don't just get. Players you need a combination
of both because draft picks miss in THE nba about
forty fifty percent of the, time and, players by the,
(21:24):
way are going to be asked to carry more below
than they currently probably do In. Houston so you're asking
young players to go To milwaukee in the deal and
now star where they're just supportive players and you don't
know if they'll be. Stars, Well Jabari, smith if you move,
it would he be a? Star is he just gonna
be a guy who's? Athletes, Yeah houston's to.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Play houston not clearly makes sense because of the trade.
Capitol i'm, Sorry i'm not buying.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
THIS la.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Teams how the hell are The clippers getting, honest they
have no ammunition at.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
All it's not.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Happening it's just A MIAMI i know that's a luxury,
market but they don't have.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Anything the cover is they're not a good.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
BASKETBALL la teams are not getting.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It that's the only Reason i'm poking holes in. This
by the, Way i'm just telling you don't rule out
a team like The Orlando Magic. Colin they've got some
really good young. Players the brothers are good and a
bunch of picks LIKE i don't.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Buy The brooklyn. Stuff they just have.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Nothing But houston obviously makes the most. Sense if you
can Keep Aman, thompson Shng goon And, yannis that's formidable they.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Got here's a kid From. Greece you don't think he'd
like That orlando And Houston. WEATHER i, mean, seriously no
state tax never been have you been A it's. Beautiful
i've seen. Pictures it's very. WARM i think you were
mister worldly. Traveling they had a hit song. Yesterday you
read to me that sounded like. That the music industry
there needs an, upgrade all.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Right the final story here is a.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Whopper, okay, Okay So Tyreek hill is kind of sort
of a crazy, person and he was asked by somebody
who his top five quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
In THE nfl are and he just happened to leave
someone off the.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
List here we, got all, right my top five?
Speaker 8 (22:59):
Quarterbacks Uh Lamar josh Pat obviously, no this is no.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Order by the, Way Baker mayfield.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And joe B so he's not, two is not even
the best quarterback In. FLORIDA i think he didn't throw
At Kyle trask And Trevor.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Lawrence, Listen, Okay so you AND i went at it
during the commercial.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Break four guys are a. Lock, okay four guys we.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
KNOW i mean the fact That's tyreek apparently playing and
not watching the. League, Yeah, Lamar Josh, Mahomes Joe burrow
are a low.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Lock okay to open for a ture. Prediction and that's
Why i'm. Okay if he, Said, tua that's.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
My, guy that's my.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Quarterback we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Win The Super but he just should hike your guy
to may Name Baker mayfield the top five.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Quarterball baker is better than?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Two does?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
THAT i mean you could look at. It Does Tyreek
hill want to go To? Tampa he wants out Of.
Miami he's made that right right multiple. Times he may
don't want to go that. Far he's got to stay
in state to see all his ten kids or.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Whatever he. Has No i'm telling you this is bad.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
News if you're The Miami, dolphins if you're to it right,
now you're.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Like you Know it's interesting that he would Mention. BAKER
i wouldn't be surprised Because baker's the kind of guy
that would get on a phone and text him and, Go,
bro get over.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Here, Yeah tampa's not that far From, Miami, like, oh
this would work.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Out great For Tyreek. HILL i just don't like.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Any of the messaging coming out Of Tyreek hill in The.
Gulf If I'm mike, McDaniel l, LISTEN i just wonder
If i'm looking to get the hell gave it a.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Run it by the, way it helped in the regular
season to it established too as a franchise. Quarterback tyreek's
a very good player there are you, KNOW i don't
think in THE, afc where all the good teams are
cold weather, TEAMS i don't Think Tyreek hill is a
game changer In. January i've said this BEFORE, NFC a
(24:47):
lot of the best teams are dome. Teams, yeah or you,
know it's It's Los, angeles it's you. KNOW i, mean
he did still have to go To. Philly detroit is
a dome. Team but they'll just be honest about THE.
Afc Kansas, City, Buffalo. Baltimore it all starts. There cincinnati's
going to be. GOOD i Think New england's going to be.
Improved it's a lot of cold, weather AND i just
(25:07):
Think miami was a fun experiment and it did establish
to as a franchise, quarterback so you got a lot
out of. It the fan base loved. Him but thing
nothing grows to the.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
SKY i got to ask, you so we know the
four locks at, quarterback who's your Fifth?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Stafford and THEN Cj, Stroud, Herbert.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
There's a guy who just won The Super bowl for
The eagles and went To totoe With mahomes a couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Ago live in the.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Moment Jalen hurts is not your five.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Fifth, no some people live in the. Moment DID I.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Cj stroud Over Jalen?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Hurts IF i had to start a franchise, today you
take A stroud Over. Hurts you do Understand hurts has
the best on line in a, decade the best receiving,
tandem the best running. Mass i'd like to, contextualize AND
i Love, herts but he has the best online maybe
in twenty. Years kind of remember how Good dak was
(26:01):
when he had the Best online's amazing how.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Well Tenalizing Hurts, now he's not sizing it because he
has a Great i'm not.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Panaalizing there's a bunch of great players in this. League
there's ten to twelve elite. Quarterbacks he's one of, them
but he's not better Than stafford. Today come, on what
are we? Doing?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Wait, wait he's like ten twelve years younger Than.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Stafford you're a lot younger than. Me what's it? Mattered oh,
oh he's fired. Shots, okay well that's the, news and
thanks for stopping by the. Herd lie What i'm about to.
Say i'm not advocating that you should empty your four
to oh one. K don't do. That don't empty your
(26:44):
four oh one. K it's quite a tax. Bill And
i'm not saying you shouldn't always have a horizon or
your line on or your site on the. Future i'm
not saying. That but when it comes to, sports sometimes
these teams are busy preparing for the. Future just win,
(27:06):
now don't worry about the succession. Plan SO i was
thinking about this with The. Rams Matt stafford just finalized
a new deal forty four million a, year very team,
friendly And sean, McVay the head, coach smart, guy, says,
HEY i Think i'd like to keep him around for a.
While so he's thirty seven years old and The rams
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have two first round picks next. Year and my take,
is take the best offensive tackle in the best. Corner
why do you have to take a? Quarterback you think
that guy's going to come in and be better Than
Matt stafford in the next two to three. Years, Remember
Stan cronk is the richest. Owner he'll just go over
pay and buy the richest. Quarterback And sean McVay at
(27:48):
thirty seven will squeeze every last ounce of juice out
Of Matt. Stafford stafford's thirty. Seven do you remember What
Tom brady did after turning seven Four Super bowls three
And Super bowls forty seven thousand, yards throwing in one
hundred and twenty. Wins And i'm not Saying stafford Is,
brady but That's tom post thirty. Seven why did The
(28:11):
patriots move Off? Brady Was tom the? Problem the? Opposite
he was the life preserver In New. England the boat
sank them into the. Left they couldn't. Draft belichick took
over personnel and had a seven year stretch where he
couldn't draft. Players this whole thing about Replacing Matt. Stafford
think about. This if you Think i'm, wrong think about the.
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Teams let's Take mahomes out of. This who maybe the
most talented quarterback, Ever let's just take him. Out i'm
going to name quarterbacks first round quarterbacks who were home,
runs not a's all time. Talent Lamar, Jackson Josh, Allen Justin,
Herbert Joe, burrow C. J, stroud zero super, bowls one
(28:57):
Super bowl, appearance add all their years, up one Super
bowl Appearance Joe burrow and who to get beat by
guy over my, Shoulder Matt. Stafford this idea of the succession.
Plan i'm not saying The rams can't take a quarterback
in the third or fourth round next, year fifth. Round
even if you Got Drew. Aller how many years Would Drew?
(29:18):
Aller how many snaps in THE nfl would he have
to take until he was as good pre snap As Matt.
Stafford that's four. Years stafford's one of the best pre
snap guys in the. League he's on a short list
Of Peyton, Manning Brady mahomes' pre snap getting. Yourself he's
a brilliant and he's also got one of the great natural.
Arms in the. League SO i, mean it's different Than
(29:39):
Aaron rodgers In Green, Bay, colin what About Aaron rodgers
In Green? Bay he was, declining he was a pain
in the butt and his last year he had a losing.
Record stafford is one play from getting to THE Nfc.
Championship so WHENEVER i see, LIKE i see, this we
do this all the. Time in, sports people have been
trying to bury The warriors In Steph curry for. Years
they tried to Burry brady. Forever New england should have
(30:02):
just Kept brady And belichick shoulda hire a REAL gm
and let him draft players the vote saint them in
that he. Left If Steph curry left, Tomorrow warriors are.
DONE i, mean how long have The bulls been rebuilding
Post Jordan Last? Dance last? Dance how about you dance
UNTIL i have to bring into oxygen. Canister The bulls
(30:23):
are still trying to Relace. Michael The dolphins are still
trying to Replace. Marino denver had to go Buy Peyton
manning the waist lway and he was on his fourth neck.
Surgery when something is great in, sports we Buried tiger
then he won Another. MASTERS i Mean Jack nicholas at the.
End we do. This we do this In. Hollywood we're
(30:45):
trying to find the next star who fills the. Theater Tom.
Cruise everybody Thinks Silicon valley's all these twenty one year old,
hipsters all the big Dogs zuckerberg now, forties, fifties. Sixties
so this idea, that, oh the succession plan For Matt,
stafford there isn't. One The rams have virtually no chance
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to draft a quarterback not only not as good As,
stafford or maybe not as close to as good As.
Stafford that's how good he. Is because even the teams
Like buffalo And baltimore And houston and The, chargers all
these teams that At cincinnati that have hit home, runs
you're not getting the Super. Bowls sometimes these. Teams last
(31:28):
year Brough di he make the. Playoffs So Matt stafford's
deal is so reasonable for his. Talent AND i understood The,
rams you, KNOW i talked to. Him they didn't love
this year's quarterback, class and they think next years is.
Better and by all, means if you're not gonna Get Arts,
(31:49):
manning they'll be too. Good it doesn't. Matter but if
you can move up and say and not have to
give up one of your first round. Picks but this
idea That i'm going to give up two first couple of,
fives the six to my, guy just Get stafford better.
Players The rams should have drafted a. Corner they. Didn't
that's why they're interested In Jalen. Ramsey so those first
two picks next, year go get the best. Corner end
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of the first. Round it's a very good corner. Draft
top of the first. Round it's a very good offensive tackle.
Draft those are the two positions they. Need and that's about.
It this team's good enough to win a Super. Bowl
get him next. Year they've got two first two, fifths two,
six two. Seven if you want to move, up do,
it but get guys who can. Play don't replace the
guy who's as good as almost anybody in the. Sport
(32:31):
and Again i'm not, saying you, know spend your Roth,
Ira i'm not saying. That but when it comes to
sports like they're They're Brady post thirty seven through for
forty seven thousand. Yards you're telling me if you got
if you use next year's, draft they they need a.
Corner and then you just got another high draft pick offensive,
(32:52):
line another tight end another. Receiver just Give stafford better
gifts instead of trying to replace. Them it's a.
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Speaker 2 (34:01):
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America As Kyle tucker leads The cubs Against One soto
in The, mets or The giants take On Byron buxton
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Speaker 1 (34:19):
On cubs may be the best team in. Baseball, No i'm,
serious The cubs may be the best team in. Baseball
so he and my, wife she just asked me this,
morning can you get me cub? TICKETS i, said you
picked the wrong year to get great cub tickets for.
Free so The warriors and the T wolves series starts,
(34:40):
tonight so hear me out on this. Now i'm gonna
Take timberwolves in. SIX i think they present the same
Problems houston did in terms of depth and size and.
Physicality but they have smart veteran players who've been here.
Before houston, didn't And houston. Froze minnesota's had too many
clutch game this, year too many clutch games last, year
(35:02):
too many big playoffs. Series you get all the expertise
AND iq of a veteran team and a big size
and depth. Advantage plus it's a great. STAFF i Like
minnesota in six so AND i was saying this this.
MORNING i want you to hear me out because you're
gonna you're gonna not believe.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
THIS i believe.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Privately once THE nba got the, bag seventy six billion
dollar contract for ten, years eleven, Years, Okay now it's
up to the. Networks it's up To, amazon it's up
TO espn AND. Abc it's up TO nbc to make
money on. That that's not the NBA's. Problem that money
is guaranteed once they got their, Bag once they signed that,
(35:42):
Deal Adam silver is looking ahead to the next.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
DEAL.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Nbc you figure out how to make money. Back maybe
it's round ball rock that's the. Answer but that's up to.
You we got ours, guaranteed AND i think, privately if
you Asked Adam silver who he wants to win this,
series it would be ant In. Minnesota When michael, left
this league didn't have a domestic, star and there's the
(36:07):
international players are taking over the league once. Again, jokic
best player in the, world best player ON tv last.
Night once, Again tatum doesn't have the. Riz ant has maximum,
riz the, aura the, smile the, aggressiveness the. Game he
(36:28):
is the. Future THE nba has had this before where
they lean on their star and as the star, ages
they don't have the next. Act and last night was
a great WATCHABLE nba night and you know who wasn't
ON Tv lebron Or Steph and the league was just.
Fine everybody was just. Fine what won't be fine is
(36:51):
if you start renegotiating those deals with all your you,
know all your broadcasting groups in six to seven years
and you don't have a domestic. Face and the league
is even more international because our basketball culture is so
messed up in this COUNTRY aau and The european system
is so much better at creating, skillful, smart focused. PLAYERS i,
(37:12):
mean the league Wanted, Jahn morant And zion to be the.
Face they just weren't ready for. It and it's. Ready the,
game the, aura the, staff the, coach the, collective the.
Roster SO i think privately now that the NBA's got
its money and it's a classic short term. Pain minnesota
wouldn't get the rating this year That Golden state Would
(37:34):
but if you could pick a team to Beat, minnesota
it would be The warriors and staff that would be
the team you'd. Pick but right now for him to
KNOCK i MEAN i was looking here this, morning think about.
This he's knocked Out Kevin durant, Before Devin, Booker, Jokich Lebron,
luca next, Up Steph. Curry in the last couple of,
years he is knocking out the stars of the. League
(37:55):
that's How michael became the face of. It that's How
shaq And. Kobe shaq And kobe Had Del harris for.
Years they were, very very. Young they couldn't get past
the superior. Rosters then as they, age here Comes phil
and you got to win, Titles you got to get
to championships to be the face of the. LEAGUE i
don't think the league needs a domestic face of the.
(38:16):
League but it's ridiculous to argue it doesn't. Help you
don't Think Aaron judge putting up ridiculous cartoon. Numbers you
don't Think Rob manfred loves A yankee on pace to
hit four. Twenty so Here's Steve kerr on.
Speaker 10 (38:32):
Ant, yeah and it's an amazing, player AND i love his.
ENERGY i love his infectious enthusiasm for the. Game you
know they are where they are Because aunt is a.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Superstar, okay so we got to talk about this, again
and all YEAR i kept, SAYING i JUST i Think
cleveland Or boston are gonna win the. Championship AND i said,
Yesterday denver's not getting. Swept denver's too. Good denver's got
too many good, players too much, size best player in the.
World so one of the things you have to be careful.
(39:11):
OF i remember years, Ago Derreck rose and The Chicago
bulls were just crushing people in the regular. Season then
they Faced lebron in the. Postseason it's, like bye, Bye it's.
Over not THAT i didn't Think derek was, great but
he Wasn't, lebron who shut him down is a big
on a small shut him. Down so last night it's
a prime. EXAMPLE i Think okase would have been better
playing In. Denver huge favorite at, home world's. Watching they
(39:33):
got totally. Tight Chet holmgren shoot seventy eight percent from
the free throw. Line dude missed a pair late and look,
nervous and they coached, nervous and they played. Nervous And
denver didn't Because denver's been in these games. Before just
think of all the big games That, Jokich Murray, westbrook
And Aaron gordon have been. In how many big games
(39:54):
IS sga been? In how many big games Is Chet
holmgren beIN? In it's not that. Many and so, also
when you blow out people over the regular, season and
we've seen this before in other. Sports one of the
reasons it was a huge advantage for The Kansas City
chiefs last. Year now they got worked in The Super,
bowl but they played in so many close. Games they
(40:15):
were really good in close. Games and a team Like
baltimore Or, detroit by the, way who the last couple
of years have been blowing people. Out oh now we trail, late,
Well Kansas city trailed all the time. Late huge. Advantage
so HERE'S. Sga you, know Chat, Holndren, dude that's a bad.
Miss that's not a, rattler that's not look at this.
Speaker 11 (40:35):
Thing those are bad. Misses HERE'S. Sja after we're gonna
find out what we're made. Of we're really made, of
and we can't expect it to be smooth. Sailing this whole,
journey no journey in life is and we know, that
and today's a bump in their own. Unexpected no one
expects to, lose especially that. Way but it's the game of.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Life so it's about how you respond to to getting
for getting knocked, down and us we gotta do next.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Game playoff basketball is similar to. Parenting you can read
all the, books you can ask your friends who have.
Kids you have no idea what it's like to have
kids before you have, kids and you can talk about playoff,
games and you can talk about the. DRAMA, okc they got.
(41:23):
Tight they gagged that they just weren't ready for the.
Room they would have been better playing In. Denver they
all everybody's wearing shirts in the arena except the. Announcers
they were joking about, that and they got. Tight so
you just don't know until you have a, Kid and
you just don't know what the playoffs are like until
you've played as a huge, favorite everybody wearing your giveaway
(41:46):
shirts at home against world, champions the best player in the.
World they're, older they're, wiser they're, bigger and you've never
been there. Before you can go to YouTube and watch
all THE mj highlights until you've been, there until you've
been eleven feet away on The green on eighteen And
masters On. Sunday you don't. Know you can watch all
the highlights you. Want you don't, know J, mac.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
You just triggered a. MEMORY i remember our.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Firstborn you, know we're in the hospital and you're in
there for like twenty four, hours forty eight, hours and
then they're, like all, right here's your, kid see. You
AND i remember walking out of the hospital, like oh my,
gosh what DO i do?
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Now CAN i handle?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
This you don't want to drop, It you're. DUDE i
was so.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
NERVOUS i was, Like i'm in charge of a. Kid
it was. Terrifying but, uh, yeah you're right.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Now that's one of your better analogies in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Five well.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Done, yeah well you're on a.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
HEATER i had somebody text, me Did colin just Say
aura And?
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Riz AND i was.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Like, YEAH i said Maximum, riz Maximum, riz SO i
can use riz in a. Sentence i'm not just just
a guy thrown out lit to Pretend i'm. Cool i'm
throwing stuff. Out you, Know i'm throwing stuff out in
the middle of the AEROGRAUN.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I met your daughter. Before can you get her to?
Listen to the.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
SHOW i just need some young person feedback On Risen
aura My son will not be listening.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
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Well.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Jmat as a Knicks fan, probably feeling really good right.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
About now, gity downright giddy about not only the Knick swimming,
but how about the Choklahoma City thunder.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Absolutely gagging Colin I was lasting.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's not a cliche when we say don't trust young
teams in the playoffs. They would have been better off
being on the road. They could feel it. They got tight,
their coach got tight, everybody got set home. Wow, all right,
let's start with this. Okay, the Celtics lost at home. Bizarrely,
(01:19):
they're not even that good at home. They're actually a
better road team, Nick fans, I've never seen a game
one upset. That means less. This is the only game
the Knicks are gonna win. Boston's not gonna miss forty
five threes. I know. Enjoy the moment, Nick fans, you
are feeling it today. Oh give me a break. Boston
(01:40):
got a twenty point lead. They hammered this team all year,
they fell asleep, and then they just took bad shots.
Jason Tatum, he froze. He does that from time to time.
He does it much more than any of his fan
boys want to admit. It was the classic Jason Tatum
game late where you're like, is he on the floor?
Is he playing? Where's Jason Tatum? But the Knicks wings
og pl well McHale bridges, they were running off shooters,
(02:03):
defended well. They deserve credit. But the Celtics had the
third fewest layups in the league and the fewest free throws.
What does it mean shots? They don't. They just live
and die with a three. And like those great Warrior
teams when Stephan Clay weren't hitting them, they had bad nights.
They got blown out multiple times in the finals. So
(02:23):
I mean Boston, they don't get labs, they don't shoot
mid range, they don't get to the free throw line.
They're shooting sixty threes. And last night, I mean in
the second half in overtime or second half yeah, and overtime, Yeah,
they shot forty nine shots. Thirty seven were threes. And
I will defend Jason Tatum later on in this show
(02:44):
because I think he's a little bit trapped with this team.
But the reality is, you see this from Boston, and strangely,
it's often at home. They're a great road team, they're
a better road team than the home team. But they
have these nights and you know, Jason Tatum, no, but
he wants to admit it, but he has these collaborative
nights where he's just settling for bad shots. And again
(03:08):
I think he could draw more fouls. But this is
what Boston is. They're going to be fine. The Knicks
have absolute offensive limitations. It's gonna be okay. Boston's not
gonna shoot like this. I mean, the first quarter was
classic Knicks. They were out playing Boston. Boston was rusty,
and the Knicks kept missing free throws. They couldn't get
the free throws, right, I was on moneyline Knicks first
(03:31):
quarter two J Mack. They couldn't hit free throws. So
the Knicks have an absolute ceiling. But Boston they give
you one of these every so often. And I've said
before they remind me a lot of the Warriors team.
But back when the Warriors were shooting all the threes,
the rest of the league was not. But Boston leads
the league in threes. They don't get to the free
(03:53):
throw line, they don't create layups or mid range shots.
So when they have one of these awful shooting halves,
I mean they led by twenty. They dominate this team.
And we've said this all the time. In the NFL.
You'll see a team lead twenty eight to seven at
half and the game ends like thirty one twenty seven,
and you're like, we were so close that it's not
really It's hard to ask athletes who dominate an opponent
(04:18):
over and over and over to always bring their a
game in Boston had a bad second half, settled for
too many bad shots. And here's Jalen Brown after the loss.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I feel like we just settled in the second half
a lot. Some of them felt good, some of them
felt like we may be forced to issue in Definitely,
our rhythm and our timing was a little bit off.
We got a lot of great looks. Those moments when
the other team got momentum. We can't and just fire
up threes, you know, to break up momentum, gotta get
(04:51):
to the free throw line, gets it a pay and
gets hit a basket.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
They're going to be just fined, and Jason Tatum is
going to be us fine, and I'll defend him in
about ten minutes. All right, Let's go to the opposite
of the Boston Celtics, literally the opposite team, the Denver Nuggets,
who has an underdog went into okase and dominated the
(05:15):
late game situations. The Nuggets shoot the fewest threes in
the NBA. They live at the free throw line because
Jokic can create so many opportunities around the basket. And Jokic,
unlike Tatum, is a coach on the floor, does not
care if he offends people. Is mostly collaborative, but sometimes
(05:37):
he takes over. And if you go to the fourth quarter,
okse got tight. The young, nervous, at times terrified, thunder
at home froze. They froze. And this was Yokic at
his best coaching and playing. He is the anti Kawhi.
He communicates with everybody I mean, obviously he empowers Aaron
(05:59):
Gordon and so Westbrook, but it should be noted Jamal
Murray as well. I mean this right now, there was
a time when Michael Jordan, I've told the story before.
I was on a couch watching Michael Jordan against the
Phoenix Suns in the final and with a with a
with a friend who's a great basketball player, and I said,
(06:20):
why can't there be more Michaels. I mean, he's not
the strongest player or the biggest player. He's not the
best ball handler, the best shooter. The NBA average size
is sixty six. He's six six, kind of thin. I mean,
I know he can jump, but Dominique at a higher
vertical Michael was so much better than even Charles Barkley,
you know, like even a team. And you watch Jokic.
(06:42):
He is so far and away the best basketball player
in the world. And now he's also the best player coach,
which Bill Russell did for a while. I mean, you
got Tatum, he can freeze, You got Jannis, don't trust him,
late can't hit a free throw. You got him beat
he's never healthy. You got Kawhi weird personality. You've got
Luca who's not in great shape and is not willing
to defend. And for the record, not only is Yokch
(07:06):
flawless offensively, he's actually an improved defensive player. He looks
like he's in better shape. So again, this game was
not just Yokich, although he was remarkable. Westbrook once again
gives you so many tools in the bag, including improved shooting.
Congrats to a shooting coach. Also, Aaron Gordon is another
(07:26):
one of these guys. I was talking before the show
to Jmac, that young player for Houston. I love a
Men Thompson. Aaron Gordon's like a bigger, stronger, more experienced
version of a Men Thompson. He just does everything. Rebounds,
block shots late in games, tipping it, defending length, relentless energy,
and he hits the game winner last night. And what
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I love about Yokich is this mentality. Here's an organization
that went through a coaching change a week before the playoffs,
so you can see yolkicic on the sideline. He's literally like,
you know, we're all like, we got to be included
in this. If you go back to that Clipper Denver series,
this is what the Clippers needed and they have a
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great coach in Tylou. But Kawhi doesn't provide that, and
Harden certainly doesn't provide that. It's always excuses for those two.
Here is Jokic saying, yeah, I'm not going to be stoic.
It's not a time to be stoic. He is coaching,
he is playing, he is elevating and but but again,
not at all a guy that has to take the
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last shot. It's Westbrook and Aaron Gordon who combined for
the last shot. And here's Jokic after he's the.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Soul of this team. He's a glue guy. He's PA
doesn't give him much respect does he deserve? But I
think he doesn't need no attention. So he knows what
he's doing. So I'm happy for him.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
A remarkable, remarkable night. And we were talking about this.
There are a lot of cliches in basketball, right in
all sports. But don't trust young guys in the playoffs.
People always say to me, you don't respect OKC. It's
not that I don't respect them, I don't trust them.
I respect a lot of people, love many, trust few.
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I don't trust Okac. In a big spot chat, Holmgren
was nervous the coach was nervous. And by the way, OKAYC,
he's one of those collaborative teams. You get it and
I get it. But to be honest with you, I
want to Skja with the ball. That's why I want
shooting every shot eight straight. I wish Tatum. You know
Sga in the regular season, he's a machine. But when
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you get into these playoff games. That's why OKC played
no close games this year. Minnesota led the NBA in
close games and clutch moments. So here you get OKC
rolling everybody, and it's like, oh wait, we're the favorite.
Denver's older and wiser, all these great players. How many
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playoff games is Westbrook and Jokich and Murray and Gordon
Okasey got tight? They're not in close games. This isn't
college football where if you're winning by three touchdowns you
just have better players. I mean, I would argue O
Casey's got a deeper roster, but if you're giving me
a starting five and I get Jokich and Murray and Gordon,
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and then I get like a Westbrook, who's a spark plug.
We talked about this yesterday. The betting markets have O
Casey is an overwhelming favorite time out. Young teams do
not sweep veteran teams with a trophy who have been
in these games. We've been trying to bury the Warriors
for six years. Denver's not going anywhere. That is a
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really good team. J Mack. By the way, Steph didn't
play last night. Lebron didn't play last night, and the
league was fine.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Ow, it's it's one night. We get Jalen Brunson last
night put on a brook.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
How good is Jylan?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
We need to start honestly putting him in context with
his greatness.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Jalen Brunson is magnificent to watch.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I know you love him, right, Yes, I have one
of your favorite players, really really like him as a player. Now,
next hour to start Nick Wright. But I am so
I do four predictions before the NFL season. This will
be my second. Okay, So I do the coaching and
free agencies all done, and then I do the coaching
free agency draft is all done. So forty five minutes
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from now, I'll tell you who I have some changes,
mostly middle and bottom of divisions. You're not going to
like all of them. And then we have Nick right
as well.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Are the forty nine ers on your playoff? Are they
in there?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Just miss by six games?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Six?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
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Speaker 1 (12:08):
So listen. I could beat up on Jason Tatum today,
but there's so much I like about him. Smart, thoughtful, collaborative,
good teammate, great player. So let me put this. You know,
Phil Jackson is the greatest basketball coach, and Steve Kurrz
pretty good, and so is Spolstra. There's a lot of
good coaches Papovich, but Phil Jackson was the zen master
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and he did the triangle offense. But there was also
times that Phil knew alm all back up, Kobe's on
a heater. I'm gonna let Michael do what Michael's doing.
And I say this all the time, about business. You
can't get too rigid. You gotta make exceptions every day
at this company, you gotta make an exception. You can
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have values, you can have vision. But here's where I'm
gonna defend Jason Tatum. So he had another one of
those nights where he lacked aggressiveness and it looks like
he was one in nine in fourth quarter and overtime.
So listen, Steph had bad nights. I saw a finals
game Michael Jordan against Utah. He had a bad night.
Kobe had bad nights, Shack had bad nights. That's okay.
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What I don't want is my super talented athletic six'
eight wing with great handles settling for. Threes but The
celtics three point culture is demanding. It so it Puts Jason,
tatum a, collaborative nice, guy in a weird. Spot his
free throw numbers have gone down three straight. Years why
because The celtics want more threes Than if you shoot,
threes you don't get to the free throw. Line that's
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why it Took Jimmy butler for The warriors to finally
get to the three point. Line So tatum can easily
beat guys off the dribble all night, long but he
keeps getting to the free throw line less and less
because The celtics are. Paralyzed they have this culture where
they're just. Paralyzed we got to shoot fifty five, threes
AND i think it Puts Jason, tatum a nice guy
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in a collaborative, guy in a weird. Spot so last,
NIGHT i mean, again If kobe was on this, team
he would Get missoula. FIRED i, Mean Michael jordan would
Have missoula going upstairs. Daily michael would fight this, stuff
And Phil jackson understood sometimes you just gotta let special.
(14:16):
Happen and last, night nine seconds, left game is. TIED
i don't one of three From Jason. TATUM i want to,
bucket put it on the deck and beat your, man,
which by the, way he. Can he's a brilliant basketball.
Player but The celtics shoot more. THREES i mean they
literally last in THE nba in free throw attempts and
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third to last in. Layups it's like when they're, bad
they just. Settle and SO i think there are coaches
SOMETIMES i Think Jayson tatum should just impose his will
and deal with the repercussions. Later who cares If missoula
yells At, yet they're not going to Fire. Tatum they'd
move off a coach before they'd move Off Jason. Tatum
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this is just it's kind of Like Bobby knight, basketball, Right,
like this is the way we play. Basketball players more
than any, athlete along with soccer, stars they're. Artists you
have to let them improvise basketball at its. Best they
call soccer the beautiful game because it is the great.
Players they just need. Opportunities you just gotta Let ronaldo
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do his, thing play out of structure from time to.
Time it doesn't mean you're blowing up. Structure you're not
creating a. Precedent Says Jason. Tatum is the best, player,
dude it's your. Ball next. Three just get to the,
basket get to the, line get out of the culture
in the system that's paralyzed by. Three so, Again tatum
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is such a nice guy and he is such a
great collaborative player THAT i watch his body. Language there
are times that's like and By you can watch him
put the ball in the deck and immediately beat his.
Guy he could get to the basket all night, long
but he's gonna play within the. System he's A duke
guy And celtic guy and the culture does. Work but
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last night you got nine seconds left and it, Again
jason just go get. Fouled he's a brilliant player WHO
i believe at, times not all the, time but at
times feels he's a little trapped by this three point
culture that doesn't want mid. RANGE i, mean look at
the shots fourth quarter and. Overtime look at the second
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half shots from The. CELTICS i mean they just. Settle
that's what they. Do that's why they never get to
the free throw. Lines why The warriors Before, jimmy they
don't get to the free throw. Line Here's tatum After
how do you.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Not let your frustrating with lack of calls prevents you
from attacking if you don't think you're gonna get a?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Call is that is?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That is that connected at? All?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
NO i don't.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
CONNECT i mean it's the. Playoffs you know we probably
just play without the. Reps We it's how physical it.
Is h something you know that don't really cross cross
my mind at.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
All by the, Way Matt stafford Super, Bowl, Yeah i'm
not even gonna look Where i'm. Throwing Remember sean mcvah
in the sidelines With Aaron. Donald aaron's gonna blow this
Playoff Lawrence. Taylor Sometimes lawrence is gonna line up Where
lawrence wants to line. Up i'm not anti, structure But
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Jason tatum can beat every, guy every wing in the.
League he can beat off the dribble four out of five.
Times Sometimes i'm not looking for a, Three i'm looking
for a. Bucket jymck with a.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
News, No, no.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
This is the Herd line news and caught me off
guard a little bit, There.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
COLIN i like you saying nice things about.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You've got to come into the show well. RESTED i
keep you on your.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Toe my, Guy Jason, data well let's. Go let's go
to a GUY i don't know if you're in on him.
Yet luka Donet he Is Los Angeles. Laker they lose
in the first. Round, however The lakers are reportedly fully
committed To luca now ahead of a possible extension negotiation this.
Summer lucas no longer eligible for that three hundred and
forty five million dollars Super, max but he could still
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make four, year two hundred and twenty eight million dollar
deal with The. Lakers, kyle this feels like a no.
Breaker you get Into luca, Business let's load, Up let's
get him on a weight. Program, PERHAPS i don't, know
get him On Lebron Well Anthony.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Davis give The lakers. Credit Anthony, davis who used to
make fun of the dad. Bod he. Is last couple
of years IN la he was in great. Shape he
didn't he wasn't. Injured SO i, MEAN i tend to
think the age Very you've ever seen anybody that's like
sixty years old and they look. GREAT i don't have
to see what they had for. DINNER i know it was.
FISH i know they don't smoke or drink too. Much
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like you can watch AN nba player look At Dwayne.
WADE i Knew Dwayne wade was really intentional with his
diet and his, body like like you could even see to.
ME i don't know what he. Weighs But jokic looks
in better shape this year than. Last he's a better.
Defender luca doesn't look like he's terribly intentional about the
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diet and being in the world's best.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Shade, yeah, unfortunately that's.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
FAIR i will say the numbers that they split up
With luca and without him for The lakers.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Shocker Without, luca they were actually kind of sort of.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Good defensively is the one to, Watch so everybody, thinks,
like Oh lucas.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So bad, Defensively there was really no margin.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
There, well that's because people score on The lakers regardless
because they don't have a rim protect.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
They don't have a room.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Protect, hey The knicks don't have a rim. Protector and
The celtics, decided let's shoot sixty.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
THREE i think The.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Lakers are gonna be fine, Again get, go Get Miles.
Turner let's not Trade Austin.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Reeves let's not.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Overreact they're gonna be. Fine next, up ANOTHER nba. Story, Now,
COLIN i firmly believe we should be Doing giannis as
often As Aaron rodgers because he is on the way
out the door In. Milwaukee according To Howard beck Of The,
ringer AND i need you to.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Listen to this because it's a little sound a long.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Time you, know he has been around.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Long time and not a, newsbreaker but just a solid.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Reporter he's saying that it looks like early On giannis
could be headed to a big market.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Team here you.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Go it's The Damian lillard conundrum Where it's, like maybe
we should have moved off of him. Sooner but you
can't Trade Damian lillard unless he has to be. Traded,
oh he has to be. Traded, cool right, now let's.
MOVE i think it's the same thing With. Milwaukee Does
janis ask? Out if he, does does he have a?
List some rumblings that it's already just the big. Cities it's,
it's you, know one of THE la teams or one
of The New york, teams or Maybe miami not big
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market but glamour, market mid sized. MARKET i THINK i
think they Threw chicago in. THERE i can't remember If
houston came.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Up it should, guys It's.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Houston houston makes. Sense they have a lot of.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Ammas oh they've got four good young but now they're
gonna Watch shangoon AND i would demand, it But houston
will make this work in a. Second and by the,
way If houston would make it, work they would Keep
Amen thompson for. Sure but the truth Is, milwaukee when
you give up a, superstar you're not gonna win the, trade.
Right but that doesn't mean When milwaukee got read mid
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seventy is A luell Center at the time they were
relevant for a decade because they got so much. Back
So milwaukee is gonna get a. Haul don't just get
draft picks obviously you can't in THE nba because the,
salaries and don't just get. Players you need a combination
of both because draft picks miss in THE nba about
forty fifty percent of the, time and, players by the,
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way are going to be asked to carry more below
than they currently probably do In. Houston so you're asking
young players to go To milwaukee in the deal and
now star where they're just supportive players and you don't
know if they'll be. Stars, Well Jabari, smith if you move,
it would he be a? Star is he just gonna
be a guy who's? Athletes, Yeah houston's to.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Play houston not clearly makes sense because of the trade.
Capitol i'm, Sorry i'm not buying.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
THIS la.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Teams how the hell are The clippers getting, honest they
have no ammunition at.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
All it's not.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Happening it's just A MIAMI i know that's a luxury,
market but they don't have.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Anything the cover is they're not a good.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
BASKETBALL la teams are not getting.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It that's the only Reason i'm poking holes in. This
by the, Way i'm just telling you don't rule out
a team like The Orlando Magic. Colin they've got some
really good young. Players the brothers are good and a
bunch of picks LIKE i don't.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Buy The brooklyn. Stuff they just have.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Nothing But houston obviously makes the most. Sense if you
can Keep Aman, thompson Shng goon And, yannis that's formidable they.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Got here's a kid From. Greece you don't think he'd
like That orlando And Houston. WEATHER i, mean, seriously no
state tax never been have you been A it's. Beautiful
i've seen. Pictures it's very. WARM i think you were
mister worldly. Traveling they had a hit song. Yesterday you
read to me that sounded like. That the music industry
there needs an, upgrade all.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Right the final story here is a.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Whopper, okay, Okay So Tyreek hill is kind of sort
of a crazy, person and he was asked by somebody
who his top five quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
In THE nfl are and he just happened to leave
someone off the.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
List here we, got all, right my top five?
Speaker 8 (22:59):
Quarterbacks Uh Lamar josh Pat obviously, no this is no.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Order by the, Way Baker mayfield.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And joe B so he's not, two is not even
the best quarterback In. FLORIDA i think he didn't throw
At Kyle trask And Trevor.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Lawrence, Listen, Okay so you AND i went at it
during the commercial.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Break four guys are a. Lock, okay four guys we.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
KNOW i mean the fact That's tyreek apparently playing and
not watching the. League, Yeah, Lamar Josh, Mahomes Joe burrow
are a low.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Lock okay to open for a ture. Prediction and that's
Why i'm. Okay if he, Said, tua that's.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
My, guy that's my.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Quarterback we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Win The Super but he just should hike your guy
to may Name Baker mayfield the top five.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Quarterball baker is better than?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Two does?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
THAT i mean you could look at. It Does Tyreek
hill want to go To? Tampa he wants out Of.
Miami he's made that right right multiple. Times he may
don't want to go that. Far he's got to stay
in state to see all his ten kids or.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Whatever he. Has No i'm telling you this is bad.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
News if you're The Miami, dolphins if you're to it right,
now you're.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Like you Know it's interesting that he would Mention. BAKER
i wouldn't be surprised Because baker's the kind of guy
that would get on a phone and text him and, Go,
bro get over.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Here, Yeah tampa's not that far From, Miami, like, oh
this would work.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Out great For Tyreek. HILL i just don't like.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Any of the messaging coming out Of Tyreek hill in The.
Gulf If I'm mike, McDaniel l, LISTEN i just wonder
If i'm looking to get the hell gave it a.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Run it by the, way it helped in the regular
season to it established too as a franchise. Quarterback tyreek's
a very good player there are you, KNOW i don't
think in THE, afc where all the good teams are
cold weather, TEAMS i don't Think Tyreek hill is a
game changer In. January i've said this BEFORE, NFC a
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lot of the best teams are dome. Teams, yeah or you,
know it's It's Los, angeles it's you. KNOW i, mean
he did still have to go To. Philly detroit is
a dome. Team but they'll just be honest about THE.
Afc Kansas, City, Buffalo. Baltimore it all starts. There cincinnati's
going to be. GOOD i Think New england's going to be.
Improved it's a lot of cold, weather AND i just
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Think miami was a fun experiment and it did establish
to as a franchise, quarterback so you got a lot
out of. It the fan base loved. Him but thing
nothing grows to the.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
SKY i got to ask, you so we know the
four locks at, quarterback who's your Fifth?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Stafford and THEN Cj, Stroud, Herbert.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
There's a guy who just won The Super bowl for
The eagles and went To totoe With mahomes a couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Ago live in the.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Moment Jalen hurts is not your five.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Fifth, no some people live in the. Moment DID I.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Cj stroud Over Jalen?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Hurts IF i had to start a franchise, today you
take A stroud Over. Hurts you do Understand hurts has
the best on line in a, decade the best receiving,
tandem the best running. Mass i'd like to, contextualize AND
i Love, herts but he has the best online maybe
in twenty. Years kind of remember how Good dak was
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when he had the Best online's amazing how.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Well Tenalizing Hurts, now he's not sizing it because he
has a Great i'm not.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Panaalizing there's a bunch of great players in this. League
there's ten to twelve elite. Quarterbacks he's one of, them
but he's not better Than stafford. Today come, on what
are we? Doing?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Wait, wait he's like ten twelve years younger Than.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Stafford you're a lot younger than. Me what's it? Mattered oh,
oh he's fired. Shots, okay well that's the, news and
thanks for stopping by the. Herd lie What i'm about to.
Say i'm not advocating that you should empty your four
to oh one. K don't do. That don't empty your
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four oh one. K it's quite a tax. Bill And
i'm not saying you shouldn't always have a horizon or
your line on or your site on the. Future i'm
not saying. That but when it comes to, sports sometimes
these teams are busy preparing for the. Future just win,
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now don't worry about the succession. Plan SO i was
thinking about this with The. Rams Matt stafford just finalized
a new deal forty four million a, year very team,
friendly And sean, McVay the head, coach smart, guy, says,
HEY i Think i'd like to keep him around for a.
While so he's thirty seven years old and The rams
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have two first round picks next. Year and my take,
is take the best offensive tackle in the best. Corner
why do you have to take a? Quarterback you think
that guy's going to come in and be better Than
Matt stafford in the next two to three. Years, Remember
Stan cronk is the richest. Owner he'll just go over
pay and buy the richest. Quarterback And sean McVay at
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thirty seven will squeeze every last ounce of juice out
Of Matt. Stafford stafford's thirty. Seven do you remember What
Tom brady did after turning seven Four Super bowls three
And Super bowls forty seven thousand, yards throwing in one
hundred and twenty. Wins And i'm not Saying stafford Is,
brady but That's tom post thirty. Seven why did The
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patriots move Off? Brady Was tom the? Problem the? Opposite
he was the life preserver In New. England the boat
sank them into the. Left they couldn't. Draft belichick took
over personnel and had a seven year stretch where he
couldn't draft. Players this whole thing about Replacing Matt. Stafford
think about. This if you Think i'm, wrong think about the.
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Teams let's Take mahomes out of. This who maybe the
most talented quarterback, Ever let's just take him. Out i'm
going to name quarterbacks first round quarterbacks who were home,
runs not a's all time. Talent Lamar, Jackson Josh, Allen Justin,
Herbert Joe, burrow C. J, stroud zero super, bowls one
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Super bowl, appearance add all their years, up one Super
bowl Appearance Joe burrow and who to get beat by
guy over my, Shoulder Matt. Stafford this idea of the succession.
Plan i'm not saying The rams can't take a quarterback
in the third or fourth round next, year fifth. Round
even if you Got Drew. Aller how many years Would Drew?
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Aller how many snaps in THE nfl would he have
to take until he was as good pre snap As Matt.
Stafford that's four. Years stafford's one of the best pre
snap guys in the. League he's on a short list
Of Peyton, Manning Brady mahomes' pre snap getting. Yourself he's
a brilliant and he's also got one of the great natural.
Arms in the. League SO i, mean it's different Than
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Aaron rodgers In Green, Bay, colin what About Aaron rodgers
In Green? Bay he was, declining he was a pain
in the butt and his last year he had a losing.
Record stafford is one play from getting to THE Nfc.
Championship so WHENEVER i see, LIKE i see, this we
do this all the. Time in, sports people have been
trying to bury The warriors In Steph curry for. Years
they tried to Burry brady. Forever New england should have
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just Kept brady And belichick shoulda hire a REAL gm
and let him draft players the vote saint them in
that he. Left If Steph curry left, Tomorrow warriors are.
DONE i, mean how long have The bulls been rebuilding
Post Jordan Last? Dance last? Dance how about you dance
UNTIL i have to bring into oxygen. Canister The bulls
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are still trying to Relace. Michael The dolphins are still
trying to Replace. Marino denver had to go Buy Peyton
manning the waist lway and he was on his fourth neck.
Surgery when something is great in, sports we Buried tiger
then he won Another. MASTERS i Mean Jack nicholas at the.
End we do. This we do this In. Hollywood we're
(30:45):
trying to find the next star who fills the. Theater Tom.
Cruise everybody Thinks Silicon valley's all these twenty one year old,
hipsters all the big Dogs zuckerberg now, forties, fifties. Sixties
so this idea, that, oh the succession plan For Matt,
stafford there isn't. One The rams have virtually no chance
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to draft a quarterback not only not as good As,
stafford or maybe not as close to as good As.
Stafford that's how good he. Is because even the teams
Like buffalo And baltimore And houston and The, chargers all
these teams that At cincinnati that have hit home, runs
you're not getting the Super. Bowls sometimes these. Teams last
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year Brough di he make the. Playoffs So Matt stafford's
deal is so reasonable for his. Talent AND i understood The,
rams you, KNOW i talked to. Him they didn't love
this year's quarterback, class and they think next years is.
Better and by all, means if you're not gonna Get Arts,
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manning they'll be too. Good it doesn't. Matter but if
you can move up and say and not have to
give up one of your first round. Picks but this
idea That i'm going to give up two first couple of,
fives the six to my, guy just Get stafford better.
Players The rams should have drafted a. Corner they. Didn't
that's why they're interested In Jalen. Ramsey so those first
two picks next, year go get the best. Corner end
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of the first. Round it's a very good corner. Draft
top of the first. Round it's a very good offensive tackle.
Draft those are the two positions they. Need and that's about.
It this team's good enough to win a Super. Bowl
get him next. Year they've got two first two, fifths two,
six two. Seven if you want to move, up do,
it but get guys who can. Play don't replace the
guy who's as good as almost anybody in the. Sport
(32:31):
and Again i'm not, saying you, know spend your Roth,
Ira i'm not saying. That but when it comes to
sports like they're They're Brady post thirty seven through for
forty seven thousand. Yards you're telling me if you got
if you use next year's, draft they they need a.
Corner and then you just got another high draft pick offensive,
(32:52):
line another tight end another. Receiver just Give stafford better
gifts instead of trying to replace. Them it's a.
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Speaker 2 (34:01):
Rich, Saturday It's Baseball night In.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
America As Kyle tucker leads The cubs Against One soto
in The, mets or The giants take On Byron buxton
and The.
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Twins check local listings to the game in your. Area
saturday seventies.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
On cubs may be the best team in. Baseball, No i'm,
serious The cubs may be the best team in. Baseball
so he and my, wife she just asked me this,
morning can you get me cub? TICKETS i, said you
picked the wrong year to get great cub tickets for.
Free so The warriors and the T wolves series starts,
(34:40):
tonight so hear me out on this. Now i'm gonna
Take timberwolves in. SIX i think they present the same
Problems houston did in terms of depth and size and.
Physicality but they have smart veteran players who've been here.
Before houston, didn't And houston. Froze minnesota's had too many
clutch game this, year too many clutch games last, year
(35:02):
too many big playoffs. Series you get all the expertise
AND iq of a veteran team and a big size
and depth. Advantage plus it's a great. STAFF i Like
minnesota in six so AND i was saying this this.
MORNING i want you to hear me out because you're
gonna you're gonna not believe.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
THIS i believe.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Privately once THE nba got the, bag seventy six billion
dollar contract for ten, years eleven, Years, Okay now it's
up to the. Networks it's up To, amazon it's up
TO espn AND. Abc it's up TO nbc to make
money on. That that's not the NBA's. Problem that money
is guaranteed once they got their, Bag once they signed that,
(35:42):
Deal Adam silver is looking ahead to the next.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
DEAL.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Nbc you figure out how to make money. Back maybe
it's round ball rock that's the. Answer but that's up to.
You we got ours, guaranteed AND i think, privately if
you Asked Adam silver who he wants to win this,
series it would be ant In. Minnesota When michael, left
this league didn't have a domestic, star and there's the
(36:07):
international players are taking over the league once. Again, jokic
best player in the, world best player ON tv last.
Night once, Again tatum doesn't have the. Riz ant has maximum,
riz the, aura the, smile the, aggressiveness the. Game he
(36:28):
is the. Future THE nba has had this before where
they lean on their star and as the star, ages
they don't have the next. Act and last night was
a great WATCHABLE nba night and you know who wasn't
ON Tv lebron Or Steph and the league was just.
Fine everybody was just. Fine what won't be fine is
(36:51):
if you start renegotiating those deals with all your you,
know all your broadcasting groups in six to seven years
and you don't have a domestic. Face and the league
is even more international because our basketball culture is so
messed up in this COUNTRY aau and The european system
is so much better at creating, skillful, smart focused. PLAYERS i,
(37:12):
mean the league Wanted, Jahn morant And zion to be the.
Face they just weren't ready for. It and it's. Ready the,
game the, aura the, staff the, coach the, collective the.
Roster SO i think privately now that the NBA's got
its money and it's a classic short term. Pain minnesota
wouldn't get the rating this year That Golden state Would
(37:34):
but if you could pick a team to Beat, minnesota
it would be The warriors and staff that would be
the team you'd. Pick but right now for him to
KNOCK i MEAN i was looking here this, morning think about.
This he's knocked Out Kevin durant, Before Devin, Booker, Jokich Lebron,
luca next, Up Steph. Curry in the last couple of,
years he is knocking out the stars of the. League
(37:55):
that's How michael became the face of. It that's How
shaq And. Kobe shaq And kobe Had Del harris for.
Years they were, very very. Young they couldn't get past
the superior. Rosters then as they, age here Comes phil
and you got to win, Titles you got to get
to championships to be the face of the. LEAGUE i
don't think the league needs a domestic face of the.
(38:16):
League but it's ridiculous to argue it doesn't. Help you
don't Think Aaron judge putting up ridiculous cartoon. Numbers you
don't Think Rob manfred loves A yankee on pace to
hit four. Twenty so Here's Steve kerr on.
Speaker 10 (38:32):
Ant, yeah and it's an amazing, player AND i love his.
ENERGY i love his infectious enthusiasm for the. Game you
know they are where they are Because aunt is a.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Superstar, okay so we got to talk about this, again
and all YEAR i kept, SAYING i JUST i Think
cleveland Or boston are gonna win the. Championship AND i said,
Yesterday denver's not getting. Swept denver's too. Good denver's got
too many good, players too much, size best player in the.
World so one of the things you have to be careful.
(39:11):
OF i remember years, Ago Derreck rose and The Chicago
bulls were just crushing people in the regular. Season then
they Faced lebron in the. Postseason it's, like bye, Bye it's.
Over not THAT i didn't Think derek was, great but
he Wasn't, lebron who shut him down is a big
on a small shut him. Down so last night it's
a prime. EXAMPLE i Think okase would have been better
playing In. Denver huge favorite at, home world's. Watching they
(39:33):
got totally. Tight Chet holmgren shoot seventy eight percent from
the free throw. Line dude missed a pair late and look,
nervous and they coached, nervous and they played. Nervous And
denver didn't Because denver's been in these games. Before just
think of all the big games That, Jokich Murray, westbrook
And Aaron gordon have been. In how many big games
(39:54):
IS sga been? In how many big games Is Chet
holmgren beIN? In it's not that. Many and so, also
when you blow out people over the regular, season and
we've seen this before in other. Sports one of the
reasons it was a huge advantage for The Kansas City
chiefs last. Year now they got worked in The Super,
bowl but they played in so many close. Games they
(40:15):
were really good in close. Games and a team Like
baltimore Or, detroit by the, way who the last couple
of years have been blowing people. Out oh now we trail, late,
Well Kansas city trailed all the time. Late huge. Advantage
so HERE'S. Sga you, know Chat, Holndren, dude that's a bad.
Miss that's not a, rattler that's not look at this.
Speaker 11 (40:35):
Thing those are bad. Misses HERE'S. Sja after we're gonna
find out what we're made. Of we're really made, of
and we can't expect it to be smooth. Sailing this whole,
journey no journey in life is and we know, that
and today's a bump in their own. Unexpected no one
expects to, lose especially that. Way but it's the game of.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Life so it's about how you respond to to getting
for getting knocked, down and us we gotta do next.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Game playoff basketball is similar to. Parenting you can read
all the, books you can ask your friends who have.
Kids you have no idea what it's like to have
kids before you have, kids and you can talk about playoff,
games and you can talk about the. DRAMA, okc they got.
(41:23):
Tight they gagged that they just weren't ready for the.
Room they would have been better playing In. Denver they
all everybody's wearing shirts in the arena except the. Announcers
they were joking about, that and they got. Tight so
you just don't know until you have a, Kid and
you just don't know what the playoffs are like until
you've played as a huge, favorite everybody wearing your giveaway
(41:46):
shirts at home against world, champions the best player in the.
World they're, older they're, wiser they're, bigger and you've never
been there. Before you can go to YouTube and watch
all THE mj highlights until you've been, there until you've
been eleven feet away on The green on eighteen And
masters On. Sunday you don't. Know you can watch all
the highlights you. Want you don't, know J, mac.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
You just triggered a. MEMORY i remember our.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Firstborn you, know we're in the hospital and you're in
there for like twenty four, hours forty eight, hours and
then they're, like all, right here's your, kid see. You
AND i remember walking out of the hospital, like oh my,
gosh what DO i do?
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Now CAN i handle?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
This you don't want to drop, It you're. DUDE i
was so.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
NERVOUS i was, Like i'm in charge of a. Kid
it was. Terrifying but, uh, yeah you're right.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Now that's one of your better analogies in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Five well.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Done, yeah well you're on a.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
HEATER i had somebody text, me Did colin just Say
aura And?
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Riz AND i was.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Like, YEAH i said Maximum, riz Maximum, riz SO i
can use riz in a. Sentence i'm not just just
a guy thrown out lit to Pretend i'm. Cool i'm
throwing stuff. Out you, Know i'm throwing stuff out in
the middle of the AEROGRAUN.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I met your daughter. Before can you get her to?
Listen to the.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
SHOW i just need some young person feedback On Risen
aura My son will not be listening.
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