May 7, 2025 • 43 mins
Colin reacts to the Steelers trading wide receiver George Pickens to the Cowboys and why quarterback Dak Prescott is the right type of leader to make this work.
He calls out Anthony Edwards for his poor showing in game 1 of the Timberwolves series vs the Warriors and why he still has a long way to go if he wants to be the face of the NBA
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh we got things moving and shaken and vibing slides today.
We're in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you maybe watching or listening. The Cowboys
and the Steelers make a move. This has been rumored
the Steelers part of it for since Aaron Rodgers started
flirting with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Jamac so, Cowboys in desperate
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need of another playmaker. Still doesn't solve their running back room,
or their left tackle situation or the coaching issue, but
it's something.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, it feels like they're went. Is gonna go up
with three four wins as a result of this trade.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Maybe one there'll be more entertaining, all right. So George Pickens,
a volatile but wildly talented wide receiver from Pittsburgh, the
Steelers said, give us a third round pick. You can
have him. I this part of it. I didn't like
Dk Metcalf and George Pickens, both high maintenance receivers on
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the same team. I didn't like that at all. So
I'm glad they moved off him. They got a decent pick. Expectations, though,
are the key to this trade. It can only work
because of Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott's temperament and maturity. He's
dealt with Jerry's ego and Ezekiel Elliott's nonsense. Dak will
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make it work. If it can work. I mean, listen,
it's like going. Plan for Jerry Jones. For a young
quarterback is like going you know, it's a little animal house.
It's it's a little crazy. It's not like any other frat.
And Dak has done a great job. There's been multiple controversies.
He had to deal with des Bryants. You know, Tantrum's
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early Ceedee Lamb wants the ball. He's had you know,
passive aggressive shots taken at him again, Zeke. They've moved,
They've rebuilt the offensive line. Dak may not be the
best quarterback in the league, but this is a receiver
with a big catching radius who is great on contested catches.
I don't think Dak throws the prettiest or more accurate football,
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but I think in tangibles, I think e Hugh, I
think Dak's great. I think he's one of the guys
that goes to the podium every week and just he's
like in Vegas they call it the cooler. You'd put
a guy with bad luck near a hot table, the cooler.
Dak is the cooler. Anytime there's a circus going on
in Dak, you know he brings the temperature down. But
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Mike Tomlin, who's always been a player's coach, he bailed
on him. He couldn't control him. And Randy Moss works
in New England not just because of Tom Brady. He
worked because of Bill Belichick. And the reason A. J. Brown,
who could be a bit temperamental, works in Philadelphia because
they have a great owner and a GM and a
great culture. The Cowboys don't have a great culture. This
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is a volatile, immature wide receiver who's going to want
the ball and is not going to love Ceedee Lamb
getting twelve targets and he gets four on certain Sundays.
He's not gonna like that and This is not a
strong culture or a strong coaching staff. So I think
the opportunity and chance for Mayhem is through the roof
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Dallas right now is the land of the misfit Boys.
It's not a well run franchise. In my opinion. I
picked him yesterday for fourth place. I do think this
is an elite playmaker. There are not a lot of
body types. He is incredibly strong for how thin he is.
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He's rangey, he can catch in a crowd. You know,
Dak isn't as precise as like a lot of quarterbacks.
So you need somebody with that can move, that can compensate,
that can correct course if Dak's a little off, and
he can do all that stuff. But between CD and
Jerry and the left tackle issue and no run game
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and the temperament of Pickens, Dak Prescott's patience once again
will be tested. If this thing works, and it'll be
fun to watch. But if it works, it works only
because of dak his EQ, which is again tangibles. He's
not top ten in tangibles. He may be top two
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or three in the league. All right, So and we'll
get that. We'll get to that. More on that in
a second. George Pickens, talented wide receiver, third round pick
goes to Pittsburgh. So if you did not catch the
first half of the Warriors t Wolves game, your eyes
are thanking you. You did your eyes of favor. It
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was one of the ugliest games I've seen. Ant was
a no show. Minnesota is at home in the first half,
rested younger, great coaching staff, probably the best pure athlete
in the game in Ant, who was a no show.
They had no energy. They were zero for fifteen in
the first half, shooting threes, with nine turnovers. It was abysmal,
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It was awful. It was inexcusable, and Steph Curry got
hurt in the second quarter and they still maintained for
most of the game a double digit lead. At one
point in the second half, the Warriors te Wolves had
cut it down to ten, and then they went four
minutes without a basket. They were just not ready to play.
And I mean, Draymond Green almost hit as many three
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pointers is the entire Minnesota roster. That's how bad it was.
And it was a blown opportunity. And I was watching
the game and I was thinking, and maybe this is
old school, but I was thinking about this, like part
of b a great player, you know Michael Jordan's flu game,
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Lebron playing hurt. Part of being a great player is
not when you're rested. It's when you just don't have
any energy. But for Aunt to be rested at full
strength have a size advantage. Steph is hurt. Just forget
your game. You just have a light bulb has to
go off. This is a moment. We gotta win this game.
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And the Warriors stole home court advantage. I mean, it's
everything was in Minnesota's favor old team with less rest
on the road. Steph gets hurt. But I mean give
POD's credit and Draymond credit. Great d Buddy healed. Now
it's kind of taken the place of Steph Curry last night.
That was great. Jimmy Butler remains so good, you know.
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And what I love about Jimmy Butler it's not about
a three point shot. When they need a bucket the
league gets down to ten or eleven, boy, they go
right to Jimmy Butler. He is a bucket every time
they need it. But I think this was not about
how well the Warriors played. At one point late in
the game, I almost tweeted this I'm like, are the
Warriors playing well? I know they have no step and
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they're leading by twelve on the road. I don't even
think they played well. I think Buddy Healed has played well,
and Draymond and Pods are playing really great defense. Young
guys can scruggle defensively, but they got a guy, a
former lacrosse star on the floor doing hook shots. I'm
not even sure if the Warriors played well. What I
know is Ant didn't and the Warriors did.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Here's Barkley, a great player, and first of all, you
bought all this smoke. You say you wanted to smoke.
You say you wanted to smoke. I want the Warriors,
and you got him and you had one point in
halftime and his energy level was down. So that to
me is what Coz is about. I mean, Shaq's been
in this situation. I've been in this situation. When you're
the man, you get all the credit, but you get
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all the.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Blame big time for the guys, we won't step back.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'll tell you that it's hard playing without that mass.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
What do you learn from this game one that you're
going to bring it into thirds day of the team. Their
steph is our best player in the game is.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Much easier when we got it. Yeah, I mean, I
will say this, whereas the t Wolves didn't seize the moment.
I mean, the minute Steph is out, you're at home,
you're younger, well rested, you're thinking, Okay, we have to
win this game. And yet the Warriors were the ones
that played with urgency. Without Steph, they would have had excuses.
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But I thought in the fourth quarter late their defense. Listen,
the Warriors Steve Kerb maybe not as an offensive guy,
certainly was as a player, but their defense with Golden
State discombobulated Houston in Game seven, and it felt like
it deserves a lot of credit here. But I just
didn't like the lack of energy. I'm watching ant thinking, bro,
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this you got out played by Buddy Heald who wore
the wrong shorts to the game, Like, you got to
do better than that. This is one of your games.
You got to step up and make it. And by
the way, guys get sick. Like I was talking to
somebody last night about this eighty two game regular season,
you could not play. The NBA could not officiate the
regular season like they officiate the playoffs. That game was physical,
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these games are crazy. Guys are on the floor, there's
elbows flying. I understand that there are you know, you
get to a fifth or a sixth game in a series.
But when the Warriors are out performing the young Houston
Rockets in Game seven and a well rested t Wolves
team has a significantly less energy than an old Warriors
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team with fewer days rest, that's on hand. You're the
most dynamic athlete here. You have to step up and
say STEP's gone, this is this is a w There
are no excuses here. So I thought it was a
bad look for Minnesota. And the playoffs remain, they are
so good. I'll get to the Indiana win. But j
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Mac so many things. I mean, like the Knicks beating
the Celtics in Game one last night. I'm watching Cabs
Pacers Caves had like a seven point lead. You know,
it's like a minute left. Some of the stuff that
happens in these pressururized situations, where a Tatum can disappear,
an ant can disappear. And this is where I'm very
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old school. Magic didn't always give you his best game.
He once got the nickname Tragic Johnson. But Magic's energy
was great. Michael and Bird's energy was great. Guys, you're
flying on these jets. You don't get back to backs.
The All Star break is longer, nutrition's better. You can
play poorly, but you can't lack energy in these playoff games.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And what we saw was Steph Curry.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
I saw a stat he ran one point nine miles
in Game seven against Houston, the most he's ever run
in a game. And again, this isn't straight line running.
This is cutting, defending. And interestingly, forty eight hours later,
he pulls his hamstring in Colin. I know, you know injuries, hamstrings.
I don't think he's coming back this series. That's my
early guess. I'd be shocked if he's back at all.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, he won't play Game two.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Hell no, no, no shot. I mean, Hanfords are weeks,
not days. And you know, without Steph Curry, Colin, I know,
Minnesota look terrible. There's no way they're losing this series
to Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I will say this a former lacrosse player.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I know it's crazy. I'll say this. What made the
Patriots great was the culture. Many times the weather's in clement.
I mean remember when Brady slashed his hand before a
big playoff game and he had like eight stitches. He
ripped it on a helmet. Culture in these big moments
can really help win games. Buddy healed has been Steph
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the last two games. Pods is playing like elite defense.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
You can't make a shot, but his defense.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Defense has been great. They got a lacrosse player in there.
What culture provides is everybody in a strong culture in
New England knew what their assignment was. But he's guessing
Houston's half court offense. Nobody knows what it is outside
of Shenngon. The thing about the Warriors is it's like, guys,
we got a crisis year. STEP's out. Everybody knew their role.
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Podds knew his, Buddy knew his. Jimmy Butler's the bucket guy.
Draymond's like, oh, I have to shoot more threes now.
Like Draymond's like, okay, now, I've got to crank up
some threes, like everybody instantly when Steph left, they went
into their role and their slot. And that is the
value of experience and culture. So many of these football
games are decided in a red zone, fourth down.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's a great point.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I would go to the other side of it as
well in Minnesota. Interesting, Julius Randall suddenly can't make a
three pointer, couldn't miss against the Lakers. I mean, Dad McDaniel,
these guys couldn't do anything last night. Meanwhile, they torched
the Lakers. And don't tell me that's defense. The Lakers
got unlucky in that series. At what point do we say, hey,
man boy, come on, how unlucky did they get?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Gobert twenty seven and twenty four? What do you do
last night?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I got.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Maybe because the defense of Cavon Loony. Yeah, Raymond green
Loony was good last night. Solid.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Come on, Losing in five games has never been due
to bad luck.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It's a tough one.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Lakers fans were ticked watching that last time because Julius
rand will turn.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Into a pumpkin. He basically did.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, as Tim Legler will tell you, the NBA's whole
contested shot thing. He had the idea what a contested
shot is. I would say Golden State contests a lot
more shots than the Lakers do.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
That's that's fair.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Yeah, I mean, now, the Celtics had something like thirty
two uncontested threes against the Knicks, and they missed like
seventy percent.
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Speaker 1 (14:10):
All Right, Jay Mack asked the question during the break.
He said, do you think Aaron Rodgers of the Steelers
potentially do you think Aaron Rodgers had anything to do
with George Pickens being moved? So Aaron Rodgers is not
a Steeler. There is speculation out there he is waiting
for the schedule to drop. Aaron did not like And
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by the way, Peyton Manning hated primetime games. A lot
of these quarterbacks as they get older, they get into rhythms.
Kirk Cousins hated primetime games. Aaron. People are speculating he's
waiting for the schedule next Wednesday to drop. And if
they don't have a ton of primetime games, and I
don't think they will. Then Aaron's like, I'll go to
Pittsburgh If he does it early, the NFL could manipulate
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the schedule. Aaron doesn't want primetime games. He wants that
one o'clock window. A lot of these do. I totally
get it and defend there in there. A lot of
guys get tired of getting monkey or I mean Mahomes
last year, you know, never played a normal schedule. So
I will say this, I do believe Dan Rooney, the
owner of the Rooney family, has said we think Aaron's
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going to be a Steeler. Aaron already showed his allegiance.
Hey listen, I like the DK Metcalf guy. He's been
in the league. He's great. So Aaron showing his hand.
He he of the two receivers they had, He's like,
I'm gonna go work out with this one. Aaron has
always liked effort guys at wide receiver, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson,
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I mean, James Jones. You don't have to be a burner.
Randall Cobb. He likes dependable guys he can trust. You
can't trust George Pickens. Metcalf may be high maintenance, but
he plays hard. Pickens bails on routes. Now this is
also a Steeler issue. The Steelers have lost a lot.
They lost Dan Moore, their left tackle, Nase Harris, Pickens,
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Van Jefferson, Mike Williams both their quarterbacks. The only team
in the league that has lost their leading passer, leading rusher,
and leading receiver from last year. But Aaron obviously is
a better quarterback than the two they had, so I
think they could be fine. They tend to Maybe it's
Mike Tomlin. They think he can handle it. They tend
to draft a lot of dramatic players. They draft and develop.
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They roll the dice on Le'Veon Bell, Chase, Claypool, ab
You know Pickens Pickins had red flags when he was
coming out of college, Deontae john Johnson. Now they bail
on him. To their credit, you know, if they think
they're a pain in the butt, they'll move off them.
But they have moved off a lot of highly dramatic players.
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And it feels like it's an exercise in futility. You
keep doing the same thing over and over. You won't
red flag guys that most of the league does, and
you end up, you know, getting a couple of good years,
but you have to bail on him. So the Steelers
got a third round pick. I think Aaron I believe
that he's waiting, and this is the speculation. You want
primetime games. So now he's got and he would never
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admit it. He's got a number one receiver, he'll have
a great defense, he's obviously there's some sort of discussion
going on between Aaron and the Steelers. I don't know
if there's an agreement, but I think the sad part
for the Steelers is they have become a franchise that's
more interesting than they are very good. That's what they become.
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I think I think Aaron makes them very interesting. I
said this yesterday. They're going to be a third place
team in the division. They're too gifted, too good of
a coach, too good of a culture, too good of
a defense to be fourth place. But they're not in
Baltimore's league right now. They're just not. They're not good
enough at quarterback. They're not in Cincinnatis league because they're
not good enough a quarterback or a wide receiver. So,
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but I did Aaron have influence over this Listen? Aaron
has showed his hand multiple times on influence. He wanted
McCarthy out out, he wanted Randall Cobblizard, and Hackett got it.
So it's like like Aaron hasn't shown his hand before.
Aaron generally isn't a point where he's got three hundred
million dollar net worth. He's like, hey, tell me what
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you can do, tell me what you can't do. I think, honestly,
Aaron's pretty predictable at this point that I think he'll
go to Pittsburgh. But it's got to be right. He's
got to get the things right. The TV schedule one
great weapon that may be a bit high maintenance, but
he's already shown his hand and his allegiance. Yeah, my
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guess is he's going to be a Steeler and it's
gonna be sometime late next week he'll announce it. That
would be my guess. Aaron doesn't communicate with a lot
of people. He's got a new relationship reportedly, that would
be my guest. But I do think Aaron has shown
his hand multiple times. Is he's gonna want certain things.
By the way, when Tom Brady went to Tampa, get
me Gronk, get me Lenny Fernett, and there's something. But
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by year you know, year two or three, move aarians upstairs,
like the veteran quarterbacks taken. There's things I want. This
is not picking on Aaron J. Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
You know.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Listen, I got a pile on Anthony Edwards here a
little bit. You You took some jabs in the opening segment, Collin,
I gotta say for a guy who ran his mouth
all week trashing the Lakers up and down, oh we
smoked him doing a victory lap, bro, he did not
show up, embarrassed himself at home.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
You know, Minnesota was booed at halftime, Colin, Yeah, they were.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Getting booed by their home crowd. Aunt started oh eight
from the field, went into half with just one point.
He made one shot outside the lane all night, Like,
come on, face of the league, give.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Me a break.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Chris Finch called out his superstar afterwards.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It starts with Anton.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
You know he I thought he's was uh, you know,
his Aunt. He struggled early and then you could just
kind of see the light go out and do the
leader of the team, and you got to come out
and sit the tone. You know in all ways that
that happens and if your SHOT's not going like you
you still have to carry the energy, you know. So yeah,
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I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I don't think there's you know, if I.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Got to talk to guys about having the right energy
coming into opening around game, opening second round game, then
you know we're not you know we're not on the
same page.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Uh that's pretty honest.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yeah, listen, it happens when you run your mouth a lot,
you have a big win, come out a little like
feeling yourself. I'm sure he watched all the clips of
you saying he's the future face of the league.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
People say he's better than Jason Tatum.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Listen, man, I'll just say if Tatum played as poorlying it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I mean, social media would have hung him. I mean
it would have been Dad Colin.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
If they don't win this series and Steph Curry doesn't
play again, I don't know what you do in Minnesota, Like.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Well everything said up there, I will say, there are
moments when you can lose a star. I mean, remember
when Aaron Rodgers got hurt, Zach Wilson came in and
they beat Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That was yeah, well I'm saying it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
But when something when somebody can't prepare for something, so
you lose Steph Curry and the te Wolves are like, well,
we prepared to chase Steph Curry around the floor for
two hours, so you Aaron gets hurt. Here comes Zach Wilson.
Zach Wilson beats the Bills. Well, didn't have film on
Zach Wilson, didn't prepare for him. But over the course
of a seven game series no staph, Now you're preparing
for them going forward with no staff. They got no
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shot to win the series.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I would say none.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
That being said, do you trust Minnesota colin seven for
forty seat?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You know what this shows you? And I know this.
Dan Woykee didn't want to hear it. You don't want
to hear it. It shows you how far the Lakers
are away. I mean, I'm sorry and not well rested.
Seven game series, Warriors team without staph out played in Minnesota,
the Lakers almost got swept. Come on, I mean, my
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takeaway is coach Warriors, best player Warriors, Steph at Lee's
tries on defense, depth of talent Warrior.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I would go to the opposite.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Have you seen anything from Oklahoma City or Minnesota to
start the second round that their Juggernauts and gonna dominate
the West. I mean, I don't know that Minnesota is
that good to you?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, Like they had a good series against the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
They played great down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
They did.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They just dispatched of Luca Lebron and JJ Reddick like
they were a wasp in the window. And they had
a really, really bad game last night. It does hey,
by the way, Boston had had a atrocious second half
against the nixt City tonight. It happens.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Who's the best player in the West Western College. It's
making sure it's not yet.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It ain't SGA. Sorry. Next up, let's go to the
NFL Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
You know, coward, you're smiling over there, because Daniels was
incredible last year.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You called it.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
They went to the NFC Championship. He's hoping to avoid
a sophomore slump.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Cliff was kind of just tailored the off us to
my strengths, uh, you know, player strengths, and I was
We had conversations of you know, he wanted me to
be as comfortable as possible, so we had conversations like
I didn't like this or I don't like that. He
was He might have argued a little bit, but ultimately
he would have called played that a one.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Uncomfortable with Jadon Daniels just you don't hear from him much.
Great temperament. He's another one of these players that comes
in and just has the right temperament, so just doesn't
doesn't need to be in a million commercials. Just go
I'm gonna win a bunch of games. I'll worry about
that later.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I will say I I wasn't that bullish on him
coming out of LSU A lot of stat patting against
bad teams.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
He's amazing. He's a really talented quarterback.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
And they added Deebo Samuel kept their oc in Kingsbury added.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Left tackle Laramie Ton sol folks.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
He just had the best rookie season by any quarterback
in the history.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Of the sport, and the team got better.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh there's and not a good roster. I mean when
Andrew Luck came in, he took him to a lot
of wind. He was good, but he was mistake from
But similarly, I mean Andrew Luck was really good by
year two three, he still made a mistakes. He was great.
This kid didn't make the mistake. He was like one
of the best fourth quarter quarterbacks in the sport.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
He was lights out on third down and fourth down. Like,
I don't know if you can continue that. I had
a guy come up to me at the gym yesterday,
j Mack. I'm a huge Eagles fan. Who do we
have to worry about?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
We're going back to the super Bowl. I was like,
Washington's pretty good man.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, they had, they spent a lot of money. They
probably found between the draft and free agency. Seven starters,
seven upgrades, and he'll be better as a sophomore than
a rookie.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I'm curious what the schedule looks like, but the arrow
is pointing up for Jane Daniels in Washington. Final story
is the Niners.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
They had an off season drama filled year last year.
This offseason, things are quiet. It's just the bruck Perty negotiations.
But you don't see him scrubbing his social media, posting
nonsense on.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Instagram, none of that crap.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
George Kittle has taken notice and he's relieved things are
going positive.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I'm glad that we're not having a super drama filled
off season. You know, I think every year, my entire crew,
we've had a quarterback controversy at some point and did
not kind of have that has gone great.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
You know, just like when you have everybody.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
In the building or a majority of the guys in
the building, just the energy in the locker room's fantastic,
the weight rooms awesome. Guys are working really hard, and
you're like, we have a lot of new free agentsies here,
so you want to meet everybody. You want everybody to
get to know you before you get into the grinding
of training camp.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Gonna be a little bit of a scuffle for the Niners,
is show?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Okay? Well I tagged you. Warren Sharp's been doing.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Some schedule stuff ahead of next week. What he said,
Niner schedule is cake. They might just waltz to ten wins.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Be careful. We have the schedule, we have the opponents.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
We don't have the schedule order until I think next Wednesday.
I'm just telling you, once this party thing settles, it's
game on in San France. By the way, can I
give you some a little bit of props that Aaron
Rodgers take on him waiting to sign until after all.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's what the staff said this morning. That has been
that is being floated.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
That is amazing. I love that you remember Jets had
like six prin time games.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
No Kirk Cousins. They used to you know, Kirk was
the one o'clock window guy. I think Brady got used
to it. Dak can handle it, some guy. But Peyton
Manning can be kind of a rigid, you know, prep guy,
a tight teeth clencher. Peyton didn't like it. Aaron reportedly
doesn't love it. Cousins didn't like it. Just like anything else.
(26:30):
You get older in life, you have habits, you have
things you you you like it. Yeah, yeah, and so
I think I'll I'll give older quarterbacks a pass if
Aaron's like, I'm not. I mean, I thought what the
NFL did to Mahomes last year was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
They played it like five days.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
It's every network every time. I thought the NFL kind
of used the chief.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
That's not changing this year. They're doing the same thing.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
But I will say I think Jayden Daniels is gonna
have a bunch of primetime games.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
He's electric. I guy jumps off the screen.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Ram will have some primetimers Detroit, Philly, Washington, Buffalo, Baltimore,
Kansas City, the usual suspects. Yeah, yeah, no, what do
you do with Cincinnati. Don't love the team, love the quarterback?
Is that a primetime team? I think I think Burrow
can carry it. You know, he was at the met Gallup.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I didn't love the He wears things that I would
be like. Barkley looked great. He was in like a
TX or you know, just didn't photos. Yeah, Joe Burrow
goes a little uh sabaf. He goes a little French for.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
He seat of a trip to Paris. You do some
du a lingo over there? What's going on?
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I do well do with that. Gay Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I got man, I got some stuff today. We have
hold on one second, all right. I will say this so,
I was told, according to an NBA player poll, that
Tyrese Halliburton's the most overrated player in the league. That's
what the NBA players poll said. I'm going to flip that.
I think he's the most underrated player. Rick Carlisle last night,
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a veteran head coach who I know did not use
a timeout, loose ball ball. He's like, bro, I trust
you you can go to that at the end of
the game. They had a timeout to use, they wouldn't
use it. That tells you they trust their got Indie
all season. By the way, I don't know if you
know this all season long, the Pacers second best record
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in one possession games. That's not because of your forwards.
That's not because of your bench. That is your point guard,
that is your facilitator. That to Halliburton's stat. So game seven,
they're up, Calves are up by seven with fifty seven
seconds left. Even by Cleveland standards, this was humiliating. But
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here was Halliburton's game winner from last night. Listen to this.
I want you to listen to this on Pacers Radio.
Second one is short and it's rebounded by Halliburton. Have
a timeout, will they use it? Four seconds to go?
Speaker 10 (29:03):
Haliburton four three three ball up top Indiana by one
one in one ten seconds to go.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
You have got to be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
He was ten of eleven this year to tie a
game or take the lead in the last two minutes,
ten of eleven. I saw a clip this morning on
the internet and I went to the staff and I said,
that had to be a highlight package. That can't be real.
It is he was the most trustable guy to tire
or take a lead under two minutes in the league,
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and you're telling me he's the most overrated player. And
what really makes this stand out is that because Darius
Garland is not available to point guard for the Cavs,
they're leaning on Tydrome, who's a sixth man. He's not
a number two score on your team. So there they've
got guys trying to out of their depth, trying to
be top scorers for Cleveland. So between Garland's absence and
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Halliburton's excellence late in games, it's becoming so obvious why
this machine in Indiana works. The Pacers work because of
Holy Halle who hit another game winner last night and
here was Halliburton on the game winner.
Speaker 11 (30:17):
It's a special feeling, man, It's it's a lot of fun.
I mean, like any basketball fan or anybody who's involved
in basketball at all, everybody in their life has imagined
being a kid, being in the driveway, being the living room,
time wind down in their head, chewing it missing, putting
more time on the clock, you know, all those things
(30:37):
like this is a kid's game, man, I get paid
a lot of money to play a kids game. So
I'm just having fun out there, and yeah, just having
fun with what I'm doing. And I am really winning
this fun.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Eight points last two minutes. And here's another thing. And
we're seeing this all through the playoffs. He went back
and stayed in college for a second year and became
a lottery pick. All you guys rush into the G League.
Another NBA playoff performer you know, has been really good
in the play McHale Bridges defense. McHale Bridges hasn't missed
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a game since like the seventh grade. I mean, I'm
not joking when I say this. This idea of the
NBA has marginalized college basketball over the last decade. I
like Adam Silver, I think they've done a lousy job
on this whole Go to the G League. The coaching's
not as good, the culture's not as good. It's all
about getting buckets. Jalen Green has no offensive game. Jonathan
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kaminga talented what is he? It's guys like Hallie that
go back to college. The loud coach, play among a
collective in a basketball collegiate culture. Make yourself a lottery pick.
I do not think into coincidence. Look at the Warriors,
Draymond Green and Steph Curry and guys that's been a lot,
(31:57):
Jimmy Butler, guys who spent year, years and years defining
their games and maturing in college. Who's the one warrior
that doesn't work? Kaminga right to the G League and
it's nothing against the G League. College basketball. The NBA
can't figure this out. College basketball is your ally, it's
(32:19):
your friend. NFL's always understood that about college football. You
advertise and market and coach the hell out of the
players than hand them to us, well microwave them. They're
ready to play. So the college basketball in March, there's
no pressurized situation in the G League like March. You
get better coaching in college basketball, you know, and then
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you go and have this tournament in March, which is
like the NBA Playoffs, sudden death, and you're these duke
kids in Kansas kids and Yukon kids. I mean, Dan
Hurley's barket at him. Dan Hurley's a better coach than
anybody in the G League. And Dan Curley, the practices
are hard, the practices are better, and then you get
March in college basketball. Any of that in the G League.
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So these kids playing these wild environments on a college campus.
G League, there's parents and friends at the game, there's
nobody in the game. College basketball can look like an
NBA playoff game, where you get these situations where it's
like it's the biggest shot of your life. College basketball
and college football are your friend for a pro league.
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NBA can't figure it out. Once again, Halliburton stayed in
college an extra year. He's got a defined offensive game,
so little herky jerkey, his mechanics are no is pretty,
But it's I'll die on this hill that the G
league gets in the way of your development and college basketball.
I don't know Bill self, Dan Hurley, Tom Izzo, Mark
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Few or G League Gary who doesn't want to be
there in front of plan, in front of thirty eight people.
You tell me what matters going on the road in
Big ten or the Big twelve, or the ACC playing
in Duke Cameron intense pressure or G League? What do
you think develops a young player dying on that hill
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all day long? Coming up next, they give away draft
picks like their office supplies. I'll explain that next.
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I saw this story. I have preached this for years.
Don't just chase money, chase leadership and management. Talented people
will make money. Matt Stafford reportedly gave up twenty million
dollars to stick around with the Rams and not go
to the Giants or the Raiders. And listen, Matt Stafford
(36:00):
is never going to struggle with egg prices. He could
have struggled with a New York Giants offensive line. It's
a smart move. And I think we know there's about
seven or eight offensive coaches in this world that make
your life easier as a quarterback. Shanahan, Kevin O'Connell, Andy
Reid mcvay's up there. I think Matt Lafleur or Sean
Payton bo Nicks is not turning in that rookie season
(36:25):
with a defensive head coach. It ain't happening. That's Sean Payton.
So Matt Stafford got drafted by the Owen sixteen Lions.
He knows the value of a great coach and a
great organization. In twelve years he won had three playoffs
in Detroit. In four years, he's had three in the Rams,
and they're favored by most smart people to win their
(36:46):
division next year. So this is another prime example as
Matt Stafford saying, I'm choosing the better coach, I'm choosing
the better owner, I'm choosing the better O line. It's
football is such a collaborative game. Now. This is something
I've talked about before, so and I also think Stafford.
I don't think Matt Stafford worried about his legacy when
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he was playing, but I do think at the end
of anybody's career, I don't care if you're on Wall Street,
Main Street, or a quarterback or a golfer, you start
thinking about legacy. I've always had this theory that if
Matt Stafford gets to another Super Bowl and wins, and
I do think there's about six teams that could do it,
and the Rams are one of them, I think Stafford
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will be viewed historically better than Aaron Rodgers. So if
you look at Aaron against Stafford, since the twenty twenty
one playoffs, It's just go look at the numbers here.
Matt has become a much better playoff quarterback. They both
have a Super Bowl. Matt was better than Aaron in
(37:52):
high school college in the first four years in the NFL,
and he's been better the last four years. Now. There
was a ten year run where Matt Stafford had to
play for Detroit and Aaron got the organizational excellence and
the offensive line consistency of Green Bay. So in his prime,
Aaron was better than Stafford. But even Aaron acknowledged that
(38:14):
guy in Detroit is really special. So I do think
Matt Stafford looks at this and if Aaron has another clunker,
let's say in Pittsburgh and Stafford plays for two minimum
four potentially and they're really good years, I think you're
going to look at it differently. I really think you are.
Stafford was a much better high school, college and early
(38:37):
quarterback than Aaron Rodgers. Aaron didn't get on the field
until what year four, and Aaron is not in Stafford's
class right now. Stafford's a fourth or fifth best quarterback
in the league. Aaron's not top twelve, He's not he
doesn't move anymore. So I think it's a real thing,
and I think Stafford is probably smartly thinking about legacy.
And if I get to another Super Bowl, I'm not
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getting there with the Raiders and the Giants. I can
do it with Kronkey and McVeigh and Les Snead and
Pukin Naku and the way they've drafted. I think you're
going to look up at Stafford in three to four years,
and maybe less than that if he won, If he
won another Super Bowl, I've got a lot of guys
that won a Super Bowl, not a lot of quarterbacks.
The list gets very small two or up, and I
(39:21):
think Stafford has a chance to get there. All right,
here's the latest, j Mac. What do you make of it?
Steph Curry, according to Sham's Grade one left ham string strained,
will not play Game two of the series. That's obvious.
Sources say it's the first strained muscle of Steph Curry's career,
(39:42):
so timetable unclear due to the first rehab like this
that says here now, the Warriors expect Curry to miss
at least one week with the Grade one ham string strain. Okay,
they don't play again. Until Thursday, so they play what
is it today? Is they Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (40:01):
So they played them all the other day. They're cooked.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
So, according to a doctor on the internet, doctor chat GPT,
normal recovery time for a grade one hamstring tear seven
to twenty one days.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Okay, Steph Curry plays basketball.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Okay, he's out time series.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
It's okay, that's not for a pro athlete.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's the Larry working at the fudge factory, right, But.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
Steph Curry's running around cutting. I mean, come on, there's
no way he's back anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well, when chat gpt tells you seven to twenty one days,
that's for a guy with a forty four waist comb
over who's a twenty seven handicap at the public course.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Listen, I love Curry, my favorite player in sports. Right now,
I won him back. I would be shocked if he
played again in the series A hamshrimterear and you're running
around from Anthony Edwards and company.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
No, can they win another game without him? Is the question?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
You're probably right, Jimmy Butler Pods, I mean, Pods can't
make a shot, but he is defendant.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
It comes down if Kaminga could give you anything.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's got to be the buddy heeled in Jimmy Butler's show.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
So if he misses one week, he'll miss at least
three games. Game two, Game three, Game four.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Do you want step at seventy five percent?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
You react Minnesota would win both games they got.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
They go to LA and play well San Francisco. No.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
No.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
In the last round, Minnesota played well. Yeah, but the.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Lakers aren't very good. Let's be honest about that. Lakers
aren't the Warriors. They're not They're not the Warriors. The
Warriors had guys on the floor last night, lacrosse guys
hitting baskets. Austin Reeves couldn't even get you baskets, and
he's your third best player. The difference between the Laker
roster and the Warrior roster is not close.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
So this should be Minnesota and walk over.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
No, I'm saying that I think Golden State could win
a game at home. I think they'll lose Game two
in Minnesota Game three, But do I think I mean, listen,
let's be honest about it. They have played such great
defense that they'll I mean, the last three games, I
don't think they've allowed over ninety points have they.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
Well, that is young Houston, it's streaky Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
That's who they're playing. I think they can win one
of the games. All you have to do. Can they
win one of the next three games? I think they
can and.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
Then just hold out the fort for Curry to come
to wait for reinforcements. I mean, Game three and Game
four are going to be huge for the Worries, assuming they.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Just I just think whenever I see this chat GPT
and making predictions, it's like I always see this. The
Western diet is horrible. No, no, if you eat like
a long haul trucker, the Western diet's horrible. I'm in
America and I eat intentionally and you probably do too.
Although I will say sour patch cancer, now how I
(42:54):
look at lunch. But I will say, you know, you
can't just give me the broad Well, it's one to
ten days. If it's a pro athlete, it's three, not ten.
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Oh we got things moving and shaken and vibing slides today.
We're in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you maybe watching or listening. The Cowboys
and the Steelers make a move. This has been rumored
the Steelers part of it for since Aaron Rodgers started
flirting with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Jamac so, Cowboys in desperate
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need of another playmaker. Still doesn't solve their running back room,
or their left tackle situation or the coaching issue, but
it's something.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, it feels like they're went. Is gonna go up
with three four wins as a result of this trade.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Maybe one there'll be more entertaining, all right. So George Pickens,
a volatile but wildly talented wide receiver from Pittsburgh, the
Steelers said, give us a third round pick. You can
have him. I this part of it. I didn't like
Dk Metcalf and George Pickens, both high maintenance receivers on
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the same team. I didn't like that at all. So
I'm glad they moved off him. They got a decent pick. Expectations, though,
are the key to this trade. It can only work
because of Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott's temperament and maturity. He's
dealt with Jerry's ego and Ezekiel Elliott's nonsense. Dak will
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make it work. If it can work. I mean, listen,
it's like going. Plan for Jerry Jones. For a young
quarterback is like going you know, it's a little animal house.
It's it's a little crazy. It's not like any other frat.
And Dak has done a great job. There's been multiple controversies.
He had to deal with des Bryants. You know, Tantrum's
(02:07):
early Ceedee Lamb wants the ball. He's had you know,
passive aggressive shots taken at him again, Zeke. They've moved,
They've rebuilt the offensive line. Dak may not be the
best quarterback in the league, but this is a receiver
with a big catching radius who is great on contested catches.
I don't think Dak throws the prettiest or more accurate football,
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but I think in tangibles, I think e Hugh, I
think Dak's great. I think he's one of the guys
that goes to the podium every week and just he's
like in Vegas they call it the cooler. You'd put
a guy with bad luck near a hot table, the cooler.
Dak is the cooler. Anytime there's a circus going on
in Dak, you know he brings the temperature down. But
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Mike Tomlin, who's always been a player's coach, he bailed
on him. He couldn't control him. And Randy Moss works
in New England not just because of Tom Brady. He
worked because of Bill Belichick. And the reason A. J. Brown,
who could be a bit temperamental, works in Philadelphia because
they have a great owner and a GM and a
great culture. The Cowboys don't have a great culture. This
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is a volatile, immature wide receiver who's going to want
the ball and is not going to love Ceedee Lamb
getting twelve targets and he gets four on certain Sundays.
He's not gonna like that and This is not a
strong culture or a strong coaching staff. So I think
the opportunity and chance for Mayhem is through the roof
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Dallas right now is the land of the misfit Boys.
It's not a well run franchise. In my opinion. I
picked him yesterday for fourth place. I do think this
is an elite playmaker. There are not a lot of
body types. He is incredibly strong for how thin he is.
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He's rangey, he can catch in a crowd. You know,
Dak isn't as precise as like a lot of quarterbacks.
So you need somebody with that can move, that can compensate,
that can correct course if Dak's a little off, and
he can do all that stuff. But between CD and
Jerry and the left tackle issue and no run game
(04:15):
and the temperament of Pickens, Dak Prescott's patience once again
will be tested. If this thing works, and it'll be
fun to watch. But if it works, it works only
because of dak his EQ, which is again tangibles. He's
not top ten in tangibles. He may be top two
(04:37):
or three in the league. All right, So and we'll
get that. We'll get to that. More on that in
a second. George Pickens, talented wide receiver, third round pick
goes to Pittsburgh. So if you did not catch the
first half of the Warriors t Wolves game, your eyes
are thanking you. You did your eyes of favor. It
(04:58):
was one of the ugliest games I've seen. Ant was
a no show. Minnesota is at home in the first half,
rested younger, great coaching staff, probably the best pure athlete
in the game in Ant, who was a no show.
They had no energy. They were zero for fifteen in
the first half, shooting threes, with nine turnovers. It was abysmal,
(05:21):
It was awful. It was inexcusable, and Steph Curry got
hurt in the second quarter and they still maintained for
most of the game a double digit lead. At one
point in the second half, the Warriors te Wolves had
cut it down to ten, and then they went four
minutes without a basket. They were just not ready to play.
And I mean, Draymond Green almost hit as many three
(05:42):
pointers is the entire Minnesota roster. That's how bad it was.
And it was a blown opportunity. And I was watching
the game and I was thinking, and maybe this is
old school, but I was thinking about this, like part
of b a great player, you know Michael Jordan's flu game,
(06:03):
Lebron playing hurt. Part of being a great player is
not when you're rested. It's when you just don't have
any energy. But for Aunt to be rested at full
strength have a size advantage. Steph is hurt. Just forget
your game. You just have a light bulb has to
go off. This is a moment. We gotta win this game.
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And the Warriors stole home court advantage. I mean, it's
everything was in Minnesota's favor old team with less rest
on the road. Steph gets hurt. But I mean give
POD's credit and Draymond credit. Great d Buddy healed. Now
it's kind of taken the place of Steph Curry last night.
That was great. Jimmy Butler remains so good, you know.
(06:47):
And what I love about Jimmy Butler it's not about
a three point shot. When they need a bucket the
league gets down to ten or eleven, boy, they go
right to Jimmy Butler. He is a bucket every time
they need it. But I think this was not about
how well the Warriors played. At one point late in
the game, I almost tweeted this I'm like, are the
Warriors playing well? I know they have no step and
(07:09):
they're leading by twelve on the road. I don't even
think they played well. I think Buddy Healed has played well,
and Draymond and Pods are playing really great defense. Young
guys can scruggle defensively, but they got a guy, a
former lacrosse star on the floor doing hook shots. I'm
not even sure if the Warriors played well. What I
know is Ant didn't and the Warriors did.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Here's Barkley, a great player, and first of all, you
bought all this smoke. You say you wanted to smoke.
You say you wanted to smoke. I want the Warriors,
and you got him and you had one point in
halftime and his energy level was down. So that to
me is what Coz is about. I mean, Shaq's been
in this situation. I've been in this situation. When you're
the man, you get all the credit, but you get
(07:57):
all the.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Blame big time for the guys, we won't step back.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'll tell you that it's hard playing without that mass.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
What do you learn from this game one that you're
going to bring it into thirds day of the team. Their
steph is our best player in the game is.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Much easier when we got it. Yeah, I mean, I
will say this, whereas the t Wolves didn't seize the moment.
I mean, the minute Steph is out, you're at home,
you're younger, well rested, you're thinking, Okay, we have to
win this game. And yet the Warriors were the ones
that played with urgency. Without Steph, they would have had excuses.
(08:32):
But I thought in the fourth quarter late their defense. Listen,
the Warriors Steve Kerb maybe not as an offensive guy,
certainly was as a player, but their defense with Golden
State discombobulated Houston in Game seven, and it felt like
it deserves a lot of credit here. But I just
didn't like the lack of energy. I'm watching ant thinking, bro,
(08:52):
this you got out played by Buddy Heald who wore
the wrong shorts to the game, Like, you got to
do better than that. This is one of your games.
You got to step up and make it. And by
the way, guys get sick. Like I was talking to
somebody last night about this eighty two game regular season,
you could not play. The NBA could not officiate the
regular season like they officiate the playoffs. That game was physical,
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these games are crazy. Guys are on the floor, there's
elbows flying. I understand that there are you know, you
get to a fifth or a sixth game in a series.
But when the Warriors are out performing the young Houston
Rockets in Game seven and a well rested t Wolves
team has a significantly less energy than an old Warriors
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team with fewer days rest, that's on hand. You're the
most dynamic athlete here. You have to step up and
say STEP's gone, this is this is a w There
are no excuses here. So I thought it was a
bad look for Minnesota. And the playoffs remain, they are
so good. I'll get to the Indiana win. But j
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Mac so many things. I mean, like the Knicks beating
the Celtics in Game one last night. I'm watching Cabs
Pacers Caves had like a seven point lead. You know,
it's like a minute left. Some of the stuff that
happens in these pressururized situations, where a Tatum can disappear,
an ant can disappear. And this is where I'm very
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old school. Magic didn't always give you his best game.
He once got the nickname Tragic Johnson. But Magic's energy
was great. Michael and Bird's energy was great. Guys, you're
flying on these jets. You don't get back to backs.
The All Star break is longer, nutrition's better. You can
play poorly, but you can't lack energy in these playoff games.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And what we saw was Steph Curry.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
I saw a stat he ran one point nine miles
in Game seven against Houston, the most he's ever run
in a game. And again, this isn't straight line running.
This is cutting, defending. And interestingly, forty eight hours later,
he pulls his hamstring in Colin. I know, you know injuries, hamstrings.
I don't think he's coming back this series. That's my
early guess. I'd be shocked if he's back at all.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, he won't play Game two.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Hell no, no, no shot. I mean, Hanfords are weeks,
not days. And you know, without Steph Curry, Colin, I know,
Minnesota look terrible. There's no way they're losing this series
to Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I will say this a former lacrosse player.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I know it's crazy. I'll say this. What made the
Patriots great was the culture. Many times the weather's in clement.
I mean remember when Brady slashed his hand before a
big playoff game and he had like eight stitches. He
ripped it on a helmet. Culture in these big moments
can really help win games. Buddy healed has been Steph
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the last two games. Pods is playing like elite defense.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
You can't make a shot, but his defense.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Defense has been great. They got a lacrosse player in there.
What culture provides is everybody in a strong culture in
New England knew what their assignment was. But he's guessing
Houston's half court offense. Nobody knows what it is outside
of Shenngon. The thing about the Warriors is it's like, guys,
we got a crisis year. STEP's out. Everybody knew their role.
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Podds knew his, Buddy knew his. Jimmy Butler's the bucket guy.
Draymond's like, oh, I have to shoot more threes now.
Like Draymond's like, okay, now, I've got to crank up
some threes, like everybody instantly when Steph left, they went
into their role and their slot. And that is the
value of experience and culture. So many of these football
games are decided in a red zone, fourth down.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's a great point.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I would go to the other side of it as
well in Minnesota. Interesting, Julius Randall suddenly can't make a
three pointer, couldn't miss against the Lakers. I mean, Dad McDaniel,
these guys couldn't do anything last night. Meanwhile, they torched
the Lakers. And don't tell me that's defense. The Lakers
got unlucky in that series. At what point do we say, hey,
man boy, come on, how unlucky did they get?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Gobert twenty seven and twenty four? What do you do
last night?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I got.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Maybe because the defense of Cavon Loony. Yeah, Raymond green
Loony was good last night. Solid.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Come on, Losing in five games has never been due
to bad luck.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It's a tough one.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Lakers fans were ticked watching that last time because Julius
rand will turn.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Into a pumpkin. He basically did.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, as Tim Legler will tell you, the NBA's whole
contested shot thing. He had the idea what a contested
shot is. I would say Golden State contests a lot
more shots than the Lakers do.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
That's that's fair.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Yeah, I mean, now, the Celtics had something like thirty
two uncontested threes against the Knicks, and they missed like
seventy percent.
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Speaker 1 (14:10):
All Right, Jay Mack asked the question during the break.
He said, do you think Aaron Rodgers of the Steelers
potentially do you think Aaron Rodgers had anything to do
with George Pickens being moved? So Aaron Rodgers is not
a Steeler. There is speculation out there he is waiting
for the schedule to drop. Aaron did not like And
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by the way, Peyton Manning hated primetime games. A lot
of these quarterbacks as they get older, they get into rhythms.
Kirk Cousins hated primetime games. Aaron. People are speculating he's
waiting for the schedule next Wednesday to drop. And if
they don't have a ton of primetime games, and I
don't think they will. Then Aaron's like, I'll go to
Pittsburgh If he does it early, the NFL could manipulate
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the schedule. Aaron doesn't want primetime games. He wants that
one o'clock window. A lot of these do. I totally
get it and defend there in there. A lot of
guys get tired of getting monkey or I mean Mahomes
last year, you know, never played a normal schedule. So
I will say this, I do believe Dan Rooney, the
owner of the Rooney family, has said we think Aaron's
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going to be a Steeler. Aaron already showed his allegiance.
Hey listen, I like the DK Metcalf guy. He's been
in the league. He's great. So Aaron showing his hand.
He he of the two receivers they had, He's like,
I'm gonna go work out with this one. Aaron has
always liked effort guys at wide receiver, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson,
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I mean, James Jones. You don't have to be a burner.
Randall Cobb. He likes dependable guys he can trust. You
can't trust George Pickens. Metcalf may be high maintenance, but
he plays hard. Pickens bails on routes. Now this is
also a Steeler issue. The Steelers have lost a lot.
They lost Dan Moore, their left tackle, Nase Harris, Pickens,
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Van Jefferson, Mike Williams both their quarterbacks. The only team
in the league that has lost their leading passer, leading rusher,
and leading receiver from last year. But Aaron obviously is
a better quarterback than the two they had, so I
think they could be fine. They tend to Maybe it's
Mike Tomlin. They think he can handle it. They tend
to draft a lot of dramatic players. They draft and develop.
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They roll the dice on Le'Veon Bell, Chase, Claypool, ab
You know Pickens Pickins had red flags when he was
coming out of college, Deontae john Johnson. Now they bail
on him. To their credit, you know, if they think
they're a pain in the butt, they'll move off them.
But they have moved off a lot of highly dramatic players.
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And it feels like it's an exercise in futility. You
keep doing the same thing over and over. You won't
red flag guys that most of the league does, and
you end up, you know, getting a couple of good years,
but you have to bail on him. So the Steelers
got a third round pick. I think Aaron I believe
that he's waiting, and this is the speculation. You want
primetime games. So now he's got and he would never
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admit it. He's got a number one receiver, he'll have
a great defense, he's obviously there's some sort of discussion
going on between Aaron and the Steelers. I don't know
if there's an agreement, but I think the sad part
for the Steelers is they have become a franchise that's
more interesting than they are very good. That's what they become.
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I think I think Aaron makes them very interesting. I
said this yesterday. They're going to be a third place
team in the division. They're too gifted, too good of
a coach, too good of a culture, too good of
a defense to be fourth place. But they're not in
Baltimore's league right now. They're just not. They're not good
enough at quarterback. They're not in Cincinnatis league because they're
not good enough a quarterback or a wide receiver. So,
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but I did Aaron have influence over this Listen? Aaron
has showed his hand multiple times on influence. He wanted
McCarthy out out, he wanted Randall Cobblizard, and Hackett got it.
So it's like like Aaron hasn't shown his hand before.
Aaron generally isn't a point where he's got three hundred
million dollar net worth. He's like, hey, tell me what
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you can do, tell me what you can't do. I think, honestly,
Aaron's pretty predictable at this point that I think he'll
go to Pittsburgh. But it's got to be right. He's
got to get the things right. The TV schedule one
great weapon that may be a bit high maintenance, but
he's already shown his hand and his allegiance. Yeah, my
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guess is he's going to be a Steeler and it's
gonna be sometime late next week he'll announce it. That
would be my guess. Aaron doesn't communicate with a lot
of people. He's got a new relationship reportedly, that would
be my guest. But I do think Aaron has shown
his hand multiple times. Is he's gonna want certain things.
By the way, when Tom Brady went to Tampa, get
me Gronk, get me Lenny Fernett, and there's something. But
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by year you know, year two or three, move aarians upstairs,
like the veteran quarterbacks taken. There's things I want. This
is not picking on Aaron J. Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
You know.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Listen, I got a pile on Anthony Edwards here a
little bit. You You took some jabs in the opening segment, Collin,
I gotta say for a guy who ran his mouth
all week trashing the Lakers up and down, oh we
smoked him doing a victory lap, bro, he did not
show up, embarrassed himself at home.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
You know, Minnesota was booed at halftime, Colin, Yeah, they were.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Getting booed by their home crowd. Aunt started oh eight
from the field, went into half with just one point.
He made one shot outside the lane all night, Like,
come on, face of the league, give.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Me a break.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Chris Finch called out his superstar afterwards.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It starts with Anton.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
You know he I thought he's was uh, you know,
his Aunt. He struggled early and then you could just
kind of see the light go out and do the
leader of the team, and you got to come out
and sit the tone. You know in all ways that
that happens and if your SHOT's not going like you
you still have to carry the energy, you know. So yeah,
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I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I don't think there's you know, if I.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Got to talk to guys about having the right energy
coming into opening around game, opening second round game, then
you know we're not you know we're not on the
same page.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Uh that's pretty honest.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yeah, listen, it happens when you run your mouth a lot,
you have a big win, come out a little like
feeling yourself. I'm sure he watched all the clips of
you saying he's the future face of the league.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
People say he's better than Jason Tatum.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Listen, man, I'll just say if Tatum played as poorlying it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I mean, social media would have hung him. I mean
it would have been Dad Colin.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
If they don't win this series and Steph Curry doesn't
play again, I don't know what you do in Minnesota, Like.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Well everything said up there, I will say, there are
moments when you can lose a star. I mean, remember
when Aaron Rodgers got hurt, Zach Wilson came in and
they beat Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That was yeah, well I'm saying it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
But when something when somebody can't prepare for something, so
you lose Steph Curry and the te Wolves are like, well,
we prepared to chase Steph Curry around the floor for
two hours, so you Aaron gets hurt. Here comes Zach Wilson.
Zach Wilson beats the Bills. Well, didn't have film on
Zach Wilson, didn't prepare for him. But over the course
of a seven game series no staph, Now you're preparing
for them going forward with no staff. They got no
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shot to win the series.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I would say none.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
That being said, do you trust Minnesota colin seven for
forty seat?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You know what this shows you? And I know this.
Dan Woykee didn't want to hear it. You don't want
to hear it. It shows you how far the Lakers
are away. I mean, I'm sorry and not well rested.
Seven game series, Warriors team without staph out played in Minnesota,
the Lakers almost got swept. Come on, I mean, my
(21:55):
takeaway is coach Warriors, best player Warriors, Steph at Lee's
tries on defense, depth of talent Warrior.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I would go to the opposite.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Have you seen anything from Oklahoma City or Minnesota to
start the second round that their Juggernauts and gonna dominate
the West. I mean, I don't know that Minnesota is
that good to you?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, Like they had a good series against the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
They played great down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
They did.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They just dispatched of Luca Lebron and JJ Reddick like
they were a wasp in the window. And they had
a really, really bad game last night. It does hey,
by the way, Boston had had a atrocious second half
against the nixt City tonight. It happens.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Who's the best player in the West Western College. It's
making sure it's not yet.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It ain't SGA. Sorry. Next up, let's go to the
NFL Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
You know, coward, you're smiling over there, because Daniels was
incredible last year.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You called it.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
They went to the NFC Championship. He's hoping to avoid
a sophomore slump.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Cliff was kind of just tailored the off us to
my strengths, uh, you know, player strengths, and I was
We had conversations of you know, he wanted me to
be as comfortable as possible, so we had conversations like
I didn't like this or I don't like that. He
was He might have argued a little bit, but ultimately
he would have called played that a one.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Uncomfortable with Jadon Daniels just you don't hear from him much.
Great temperament. He's another one of these players that comes
in and just has the right temperament, so just doesn't
doesn't need to be in a million commercials. Just go
I'm gonna win a bunch of games. I'll worry about
that later.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I will say I I wasn't that bullish on him
coming out of LSU A lot of stat patting against
bad teams.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
He's amazing. He's a really talented quarterback.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
And they added Deebo Samuel kept their oc in Kingsbury added.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Left tackle Laramie Ton sol folks.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
He just had the best rookie season by any quarterback
in the history.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Of the sport, and the team got better.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh there's and not a good roster. I mean when
Andrew Luck came in, he took him to a lot
of wind. He was good, but he was mistake from
But similarly, I mean Andrew Luck was really good by
year two three, he still made a mistakes. He was great.
This kid didn't make the mistake. He was like one
of the best fourth quarter quarterbacks in the sport.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
He was lights out on third down and fourth down. Like,
I don't know if you can continue that. I had
a guy come up to me at the gym yesterday,
j Mack. I'm a huge Eagles fan. Who do we
have to worry about?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
We're going back to the super Bowl. I was like,
Washington's pretty good man.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, they had, they spent a lot of money. They
probably found between the draft and free agency. Seven starters,
seven upgrades, and he'll be better as a sophomore than
a rookie.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I'm curious what the schedule looks like, but the arrow
is pointing up for Jane Daniels in Washington. Final story
is the Niners.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
They had an off season drama filled year last year.
This offseason, things are quiet. It's just the bruck Perty negotiations.
But you don't see him scrubbing his social media, posting
nonsense on.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Instagram, none of that crap.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
George Kittle has taken notice and he's relieved things are
going positive.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I'm glad that we're not having a super drama filled
off season. You know, I think every year, my entire crew,
we've had a quarterback controversy at some point and did
not kind of have that has gone great.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
You know, just like when you have everybody.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
In the building or a majority of the guys in
the building, just the energy in the locker room's fantastic,
the weight rooms awesome. Guys are working really hard, and
you're like, we have a lot of new free agentsies here,
so you want to meet everybody. You want everybody to
get to know you before you get into the grinding
of training camp.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Gonna be a little bit of a scuffle for the Niners,
is show?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Okay? Well I tagged you. Warren Sharp's been doing.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Some schedule stuff ahead of next week. What he said,
Niner schedule is cake. They might just waltz to ten wins.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Be careful. We have the schedule, we have the opponents.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
We don't have the schedule order until I think next Wednesday.
I'm just telling you, once this party thing settles, it's
game on in San France. By the way, can I
give you some a little bit of props that Aaron
Rodgers take on him waiting to sign until after all.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's what the staff said this morning. That has been
that is being floated.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
That is amazing. I love that you remember Jets had
like six prin time games.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
No Kirk Cousins. They used to you know, Kirk was
the one o'clock window guy. I think Brady got used
to it. Dak can handle it, some guy. But Peyton
Manning can be kind of a rigid, you know, prep guy,
a tight teeth clencher. Peyton didn't like it. Aaron reportedly
doesn't love it. Cousins didn't like it. Just like anything else.
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You get older in life, you have habits, you have
things you you you like it. Yeah, yeah, and so
I think I'll I'll give older quarterbacks a pass if
Aaron's like, I'm not. I mean, I thought what the
NFL did to Mahomes last year was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
They played it like five days.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
It's every network every time. I thought the NFL kind
of used the chief.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
That's not changing this year. They're doing the same thing.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
But I will say I think Jayden Daniels is gonna
have a bunch of primetime games.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
He's electric. I guy jumps off the screen.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Ram will have some primetimers Detroit, Philly, Washington, Buffalo, Baltimore,
Kansas City, the usual suspects. Yeah, yeah, no, what do
you do with Cincinnati. Don't love the team, love the quarterback?
Is that a primetime team? I think I think Burrow
can carry it. You know, he was at the met Gallup.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I didn't love the He wears things that I would
be like. Barkley looked great. He was in like a
TX or you know, just didn't photos. Yeah, Joe Burrow
goes a little uh sabaf. He goes a little French for.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
He seat of a trip to Paris. You do some
du a lingo over there? What's going on?
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I do well do with that. Gay Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I got man, I got some stuff today. We have
hold on one second, all right. I will say this so,
I was told, according to an NBA player poll, that
Tyrese Halliburton's the most overrated player in the league. That's
what the NBA players poll said. I'm going to flip that.
I think he's the most underrated player. Rick Carlisle last night,
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a veteran head coach who I know did not use
a timeout, loose ball ball. He's like, bro, I trust
you you can go to that at the end of
the game. They had a timeout to use, they wouldn't
use it. That tells you they trust their got Indie
all season. By the way, I don't know if you
know this all season long, the Pacers second best record
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in one possession games. That's not because of your forwards.
That's not because of your bench. That is your point guard,
that is your facilitator. That to Halliburton's stat. So game seven,
they're up, Calves are up by seven with fifty seven
seconds left. Even by Cleveland standards, this was humiliating. But
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here was Halliburton's game winner from last night. Listen to this.
I want you to listen to this on Pacers Radio.
Second one is short and it's rebounded by Halliburton. Have
a timeout, will they use it? Four seconds to go?
Speaker 10 (29:03):
Haliburton four three three ball up top Indiana by one
one in one ten seconds to go.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
You have got to be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
He was ten of eleven this year to tie a
game or take the lead in the last two minutes,
ten of eleven. I saw a clip this morning on
the internet and I went to the staff and I said,
that had to be a highlight package. That can't be real.
It is he was the most trustable guy to tire
or take a lead under two minutes in the league,
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and you're telling me he's the most overrated player. And
what really makes this stand out is that because Darius
Garland is not available to point guard for the Cavs,
they're leaning on Tydrome, who's a sixth man. He's not
a number two score on your team. So there they've
got guys trying to out of their depth, trying to
be top scorers for Cleveland. So between Garland's absence and
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Halliburton's excellence late in games, it's becoming so obvious why
this machine in Indiana works. The Pacers work because of
Holy Halle who hit another game winner last night and
here was Halliburton on the game winner.
Speaker 11 (30:17):
It's a special feeling, man, It's it's a lot of fun.
I mean, like any basketball fan or anybody who's involved
in basketball at all, everybody in their life has imagined
being a kid, being in the driveway, being the living room,
time wind down in their head, chewing it missing, putting
more time on the clock, you know, all those things
(30:37):
like this is a kid's game, man, I get paid
a lot of money to play a kids game. So
I'm just having fun out there, and yeah, just having
fun with what I'm doing. And I am really winning
this fun.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Eight points last two minutes. And here's another thing. And
we're seeing this all through the playoffs. He went back
and stayed in college for a second year and became
a lottery pick. All you guys rush into the G League.
Another NBA playoff performer you know, has been really good
in the play McHale Bridges defense. McHale Bridges hasn't missed
(31:15):
a game since like the seventh grade. I mean, I'm
not joking when I say this. This idea of the
NBA has marginalized college basketball over the last decade. I
like Adam Silver, I think they've done a lousy job
on this whole Go to the G League. The coaching's
not as good, the culture's not as good. It's all
about getting buckets. Jalen Green has no offensive game. Jonathan
(31:36):
kaminga talented what is he? It's guys like Hallie that
go back to college. The loud coach, play among a
collective in a basketball collegiate culture. Make yourself a lottery pick.
I do not think into coincidence. Look at the Warriors,
Draymond Green and Steph Curry and guys that's been a lot,
(31:57):
Jimmy Butler, guys who spent year, years and years defining
their games and maturing in college. Who's the one warrior
that doesn't work? Kaminga right to the G League and
it's nothing against the G League. College basketball. The NBA
can't figure this out. College basketball is your ally, it's
(32:19):
your friend. NFL's always understood that about college football. You
advertise and market and coach the hell out of the
players than hand them to us, well microwave them. They're
ready to play. So the college basketball in March, there's
no pressurized situation in the G League like March. You
get better coaching in college basketball, you know, and then
(32:41):
you go and have this tournament in March, which is
like the NBA Playoffs, sudden death, and you're these duke
kids in Kansas kids and Yukon kids. I mean, Dan
Hurley's barket at him. Dan Hurley's a better coach than
anybody in the G League. And Dan Curley, the practices
are hard, the practices are better, and then you get
March in college basketball. Any of that in the G League.
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So these kids playing these wild environments on a college campus.
G League, there's parents and friends at the game, there's
nobody in the game. College basketball can look like an
NBA playoff game, where you get these situations where it's
like it's the biggest shot of your life. College basketball
and college football are your friend for a pro league.
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NBA can't figure it out. Once again, Halliburton stayed in
college an extra year. He's got a defined offensive game,
so little herky jerkey, his mechanics are no is pretty,
But it's I'll die on this hill that the G
league gets in the way of your development and college basketball.
I don't know Bill self, Dan Hurley, Tom Izzo, Mark
(33:46):
Few or G League Gary who doesn't want to be
there in front of plan, in front of thirty eight people.
You tell me what matters going on the road in
Big ten or the Big twelve, or the ACC playing
in Duke Cameron intense pressure or G League? What do
you think develops a young player dying on that hill
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all day long? Coming up next, they give away draft
picks like their office supplies. I'll explain that next.
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I saw this story. I have preached this for years.
Don't just chase money, chase leadership and management. Talented people
will make money. Matt Stafford reportedly gave up twenty million
dollars to stick around with the Rams and not go
to the Giants or the Raiders. And listen, Matt Stafford
(36:00):
is never going to struggle with egg prices. He could
have struggled with a New York Giants offensive line. It's
a smart move. And I think we know there's about
seven or eight offensive coaches in this world that make
your life easier as a quarterback. Shanahan, Kevin O'Connell, Andy
Reid mcvay's up there. I think Matt Lafleur or Sean
Payton bo Nicks is not turning in that rookie season
(36:25):
with a defensive head coach. It ain't happening. That's Sean Payton.
So Matt Stafford got drafted by the Owen sixteen Lions.
He knows the value of a great coach and a
great organization. In twelve years he won had three playoffs
in Detroit. In four years, he's had three in the Rams,
and they're favored by most smart people to win their
(36:46):
division next year. So this is another prime example as
Matt Stafford saying, I'm choosing the better coach, I'm choosing
the better owner, I'm choosing the better O line. It's
football is such a collaborative game. Now. This is something
I've talked about before, so and I also think Stafford.
I don't think Matt Stafford worried about his legacy when
(37:10):
he was playing, but I do think at the end
of anybody's career, I don't care if you're on Wall Street,
Main Street, or a quarterback or a golfer, you start
thinking about legacy. I've always had this theory that if
Matt Stafford gets to another Super Bowl and wins, and
I do think there's about six teams that could do it,
and the Rams are one of them, I think Stafford
(37:31):
will be viewed historically better than Aaron Rodgers. So if
you look at Aaron against Stafford, since the twenty twenty
one playoffs, It's just go look at the numbers here.
Matt has become a much better playoff quarterback. They both
have a Super Bowl. Matt was better than Aaron in
(37:52):
high school college in the first four years in the NFL,
and he's been better the last four years. Now. There
was a ten year run where Matt Stafford had to
play for Detroit and Aaron got the organizational excellence and
the offensive line consistency of Green Bay. So in his prime,
Aaron was better than Stafford. But even Aaron acknowledged that
(38:14):
guy in Detroit is really special. So I do think
Matt Stafford looks at this and if Aaron has another clunker,
let's say in Pittsburgh and Stafford plays for two minimum
four potentially and they're really good years, I think you're
going to look at it differently. I really think you are.
Stafford was a much better high school, college and early
(38:37):
quarterback than Aaron Rodgers. Aaron didn't get on the field
until what year four, and Aaron is not in Stafford's
class right now. Stafford's a fourth or fifth best quarterback
in the league. Aaron's not top twelve, He's not he
doesn't move anymore. So I think it's a real thing,
and I think Stafford is probably smartly thinking about legacy.
And if I get to another Super Bowl, I'm not
(38:58):
getting there with the Raiders and the Giants. I can
do it with Kronkey and McVeigh and Les Snead and
Pukin Naku and the way they've drafted. I think you're
going to look up at Stafford in three to four years,
and maybe less than that if he won, If he
won another Super Bowl, I've got a lot of guys
that won a Super Bowl, not a lot of quarterbacks.
The list gets very small two or up, and I
(39:21):
think Stafford has a chance to get there. All right,
here's the latest, j Mac. What do you make of it?
Steph Curry, according to Sham's Grade one left ham string strained,
will not play Game two of the series. That's obvious.
Sources say it's the first strained muscle of Steph Curry's career,
(39:42):
so timetable unclear due to the first rehab like this
that says here now, the Warriors expect Curry to miss
at least one week with the Grade one ham string strain. Okay,
they don't play again. Until Thursday, so they play what
is it today? Is they Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (40:01):
So they played them all the other day. They're cooked.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
So, according to a doctor on the internet, doctor chat GPT,
normal recovery time for a grade one hamstring tear seven
to twenty one days.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Okay, Steph Curry plays basketball.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Okay, he's out time series.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
It's okay, that's not for a pro athlete.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's the Larry working at the fudge factory, right, But.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
Steph Curry's running around cutting. I mean, come on, there's
no way he's back anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well, when chat gpt tells you seven to twenty one days,
that's for a guy with a forty four waist comb
over who's a twenty seven handicap at the public course.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Listen, I love Curry, my favorite player in sports. Right now,
I won him back. I would be shocked if he
played again in the series A hamshrimterear and you're running
around from Anthony Edwards and company.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
No, can they win another game without him? Is the question?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
You're probably right, Jimmy Butler Pods, I mean, Pods can't
make a shot, but he is defendant.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
It comes down if Kaminga could give you anything.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's got to be the buddy heeled in Jimmy Butler's show.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
So if he misses one week, he'll miss at least
three games. Game two, Game three, Game four.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Do you want step at seventy five percent?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
You react Minnesota would win both games they got.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
They go to LA and play well San Francisco. No.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
No.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
In the last round, Minnesota played well. Yeah, but the.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Lakers aren't very good. Let's be honest about that. Lakers
aren't the Warriors. They're not They're not the Warriors. The
Warriors had guys on the floor last night, lacrosse guys
hitting baskets. Austin Reeves couldn't even get you baskets, and
he's your third best player. The difference between the Laker
roster and the Warrior roster is not close.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
So this should be Minnesota and walk over.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
No, I'm saying that I think Golden State could win
a game at home. I think they'll lose Game two
in Minnesota Game three, But do I think I mean, listen,
let's be honest about it. They have played such great
defense that they'll I mean, the last three games, I
don't think they've allowed over ninety points have they.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
Well, that is young Houston, it's streaky Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
That's who they're playing. I think they can win one
of the games. All you have to do. Can they
win one of the next three games? I think they
can and.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
Then just hold out the fort for Curry to come
to wait for reinforcements. I mean, Game three and Game
four are going to be huge for the Worries, assuming they.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Just I just think whenever I see this chat GPT
and making predictions, it's like I always see this. The
Western diet is horrible. No, no, if you eat like
a long haul trucker, the Western diet's horrible. I'm in
America and I eat intentionally and you probably do too.
Although I will say sour patch cancer, now how I
(42:54):
look at lunch. But I will say, you know, you
can't just give me the broad Well, it's one to
ten days. If it's a pro athlete, it's three, not ten.
It's the herd
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