October 23, 2024 • 39 mins
Colin gives his thoughts on LeBron James making history by playing in an NBA game with his son Bronny and what this means for the Lakers title chances this year
The Knicks aren't quite ready to compete against the Celtics
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
So Wednesday, lots and lots to talk about in La
Lebron and Browny World Series coming up with the Dodgers
and Yankees. It's the Herd wherever you may be and
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. So years ago, j Mac Joel Clatt
in one hour when I was a local news anchor
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sports guy. I love sports, and every year one of
the local teams you know, would get into the Final
four or a World Series, and the news director wouldn't
make the sports guys have to do like fluffy sports stories,
Pom palm waving stories, and I'm like, no, I'm a
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sports guy. I have sources. You once you send the
lightweight newspeople to do sports stories. So I felt like
last night last night it was basically for the lightweights
who don't really follow sports. The influencers. Bronnie and Lebron
are playing, and it was good for their family. That's cool,
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and their business partners and that's cool, and influencers and
people that don't really watch the game. It will have
zero impact. It was cool. It was a moment first
father son duo. It was great. I get it. It
was a moment. It'll have zero impact on the Lakers.
In fact, if JJ Ruddick is forced to play Brownie,
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it will hurt the team. I mean, you saw Aunt
Edwards looked at Bronnie as a liability. Let's go attack him.
Bronnie is small, He's six, and he's not a point guard.
He's a six to one off guard. He would not
be a dominant G League player. He would be a
G League player. And I get it. I get it.
I live in Los Angeles, red carpet Hollywood. I get it.
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I've said before Lebron carried the league for fifteen years.
You're doing him as solid. The Lakers told other teams
don't draft Brownie. I get it. I had no animosity.
I think it's fun. The Griffies. I'm a Seattle kid,
the Griffies, the kid, dad and son play together. I
get it. But if we're serious here just this is
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just fluff. This is for influencer types. You know, the
cameras come out, everybody's taking pictures. I was there. That's fine.
I mean, you go to a restaurant in La it's
twenty three year olds, I mean taking pictures of their food. Like,
I get it. But for serious basketball people, all I
watched was JJ Reddick and the thing I would be
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encouraged about. The Lakers ball movement was better than a
was with Darvin Ham. The spacing was better than it
was with Darvin Ham. And Anthony Davis got to the
free throw line fifteen times. So Anthony Davis JJ Reddick
is all in and as an offensive coach, knows how
to use him better than Darvin Ham did. That's what
I watched. The other stuff felt like a soft launch
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for a Kardashian show, all right, But I mean what
I was watching was, oh my god, this is the
most engaged Anthony Davis is all in. Lebron still fine.
Austin Rivers has put on ten pounds of muscle. Dalton
connect that's fun. Could he win Rookie of the Year.
But all I cared about last night, and again maybe
I'm old school. I don't want to be grumpy old guy.
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The browny thing was cool for the family, Savannah, Lebron,
the kids, it's a great moment. It's amazing. Let's not
let it get in the way of stuff. I'm looking
at JJ Reddick, I'm looking at Anthony Davis, the rookie.
I still think they could use another three point shooter.
But in the end, I understand what last night was right.
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It was it's the it's the local news anchors pretending
they care about sports because the team's in the super Bowl.
It's bring out the cameras and the iPhones. It's adorable.
I'm happy for Lebron and his family. It's an amazing family,
American success story. Bronnie seems like a nice kid, but
he's a six to one off guard. They don't exist
in the NBA. I mean six to one point guards.
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You have to be so athletic. You got to be
Jahn Morant to be a small point guard to succeed
in this league. To be a small off guard, you
you would have to be the best three point shooter
or the best defender at six to one in league history.
So can we just you know, it's so let's let's
let's just give them their moment. It's nice. Here's Bronnie,
who's a good kid, works hard, seems like a joyful person,
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good family, and lebron after.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Try not to focus on, uh, you know, everything that's
going on around me and trying to focus on going
in as a rookie and not trying to mess up.
But yeah, I mean I totally did feel the energy,
and yeah, I appreciate the Laker nation for you know,
showing that support from you and my dad.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
We still had a job to do when we checked in.
We wasn't trying to make it a circus. We wasn't
trying to make it about us. We wanted to make
it about the team. And you know, for us to
go out there and continue to play the Brandon basketball
and that the closure staff and our teammates wanted us
to play. We kept that, kept the main thing, the
main thing while we was on the floor, and that
was that was good for all of us.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yes, it wasn't a circus. It wasn't The Lakers won.
Minnesota was a little out of sorts in the first half.
Cat's gone Julius Randal in Dante vi Evincenzo is gonna
be a nice fit. Minnesota's going to be fine. They
have a really good coaching staff, They're good players. I
think they could be as good or better than last year.
They didn't get their feet under him in the first half.
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It's the first game. Don't make too much of Minnesota.
I like their pieces. Julius Randall, you know, dribbles too much,
takes the air of the ball. Not my favorite and
in the moment was not a circus. But let's be honest.
If you're going to force the Lakers to play Browny,
it will be and it'll get in the way of
what a team that may be at best a playing team.
But jj reddick I thought the spacing, the movement and
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his use of Anthony Davis was fantastic. That's what I thought. Okay,
so well, well, well, if you watched the early game,
it capped off what was another wonderful week for New
York sports. The Giants are again hideous and hopeless. The Jets,
what a shock. They've already fired a coach. They're a mess.
The Met's cute story Bye Bye. Overwhelmed by the Dodgers, Bats,
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and the Knicks won't be able to compete against the
Celtics this year, thanks for flying United. Yeah, that was ugly.
The Celtics led at one point, by thirty five points. Now,
let's be fair the Knicks, and they know this. They
have to get another three point shooter. They moved Dante
DiVincenzo to get Karl Anthony Towns. Now CAP's the better player,
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and they need size to compete against you know, Porzingis
and Ambiide and Giannis. I totally got the move. But
McHale Bridges gives the Knicks another wing defender. But you're
still gonna make threes, not just defend them. And Boston,
I mean, Boston last season led the NBA in three
point shots and makes. Yet they decided during the offseason,
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let's shoot more. Last year they averaged forty two. Last
night they shot sixty one. And so you got a
couple of new Knicks and they're trying to kind of
like Minnesota, figure out what they are. And you have
the returning champs one through eight. There's nobody close to
the Celtics in the league. Oklahoma City's good. One through eight,
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Denver Minnesota, Denver was better. A couple of years ago
one through eight. That's why they won the title. The
Knicks one through eight can't compete with the Celtics one
through eight, So they've got to add a piece, maybe
at the trade deadline that can go take a big swing.
They'll defend the three better with Michale Bridges. But what
you were watching last night was a table size and
freshwood that that wasn't competitive. And the Knicks will not
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beat the Celtics unless they go get another three point shooter.
And Dante DiVincenzo was that guy last year. But what
I see last night is two things. Okay, So Devintenzo's gone.
That's gonna be more pressure on Brunson because Mikhail Bridges
is not a playmaker. He's not a shot creator. He
was at his best in Phoenix when they had Devin
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Booker Chris Paul Spacing. That's when he was at his best.
So Brunson last year fell apart physically because the team
was two Jalen Brunson dominant and centric. Well, now by
losing Dante DiVincenzo, that's more pressure offensively on Brunson and
Isaiah Hartenstein, the big kid they sent to OKCE Or
that signed with okac, he gave you about eight nine
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ten points a night, gritty, blue collar, tough guy, high percentage.
Those were freebie points eight they're all gone and Devingenzo
catch and shoot threes. That's out the door. So you're
gonna knee Carl Anthony Towns to give you twenty six
a night, and he'll have thirty two point nights and
they'll have nineteen point nights and he gets into his feelings.
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So I do feel like watching last night is they
have to add another piece otherwise it's gonna become Hey,
Jalen Brunson, save us. And I'm sorry, when Derek White
your fourth or fifth best player, I mean that he
would be. I mean he would be arguably the next
second best player. So this team and let's they get
another shooter and score and consistency from Kat And that's
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always been the issue. Cat's talent's great, consistency not so great.
Sometimes gets a little weird in big spots, and then
it can be great in spots you don't need him.
I feel like last night is Nix will be fine
in March, but last night that's true, serum. That's how
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good the Celtics are. One through eight, and how much
you need Jalen Brunson and score thirty eight to even
compete with Boston. Here's TIBs after.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think you have to have the appropriate reaction to it.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
It's disappointing that we didn't play better, but I'm not
disappointed in our team.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
For the record, the Celtics, we're twenty nine of sixty
one on threes, so they're not going to shoot.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
That most nights.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
They may go nineteen of sixty one. That would be
closer to what teams would on average shoot. But one
through eight, make no doubt, there's a real argument to
be made that the only teams that can match up
both ends of the floor against the Celtics are out West.
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I think, okay, seeing Denver matchup Minnesota, let's wait and
see on that. Dallas. Hey, listen, if Kyrie, Clay and
Luca can get along, maybe they match up with threes.
But right now the Knicks and af have to add
another shooter. And you know, Mikhale Bridges, we got to
be honest here, he's not a shot creator. Okay, he
can finish, but he not a shot creator. So it's
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going to be very much on Jalen Brunton like it
was last year. The good news is Brunton's a terrific player,
better than anybody thought he would be in New York.
Uh And so that's good. So j Mac Joel clatt
in one hour from now. The Kansas City Chiefs made
another move. A lot of talk yesterday on the old interweb.
I was sitting around, took a little net, watched a
little TV yesterday and I was reading some stuff on
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football and the whole Matt Stafford on the trading block thing.
Be very careful about Matt Stafford on the trading block.
That's that's That's not what I'm hearing. It's almost like
that's out there for a reason. I don't know what
that reason is.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
I've gone through some permutations of why that could be
and why all of why would the Rams be calling teams?
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Are you interested in Cooper Cup?
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Sounds a little fishy something's going on there, and I
don't think it's we want to move off Cooper Cup.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
I'll just I'll leave it at that, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
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Speaker 1 (12:01):
App All right, last night started the NBA season. Forty
five minutes from now, I'll have my five bold predictions
for the NBA season. Five bold predictions in forty five
minutes from now on the NBA season, plus Joel Clatt
stops by. So we're getting closer to the trading deadline.
Trading deadline here, very very close. You're getting the Cooper
Cup rumors. I do buy some of those. He's brittle
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and expensive, but he could make an impact for a
team that needs a shot in the arm. Stafford stuff
I don't buy, and then you're gonna have team shopping people.
As Jamack pointed out, some teams are putting stuff out there.
They want to lubricate some action in the league. They
want to get stuff going. So there's like game playing.
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It's like before the draft. Mel Kiper once told me
before a draft he never gets lied to more than
the two weeks before the draft. So you have to
kind of sort out what's true what's not true. So
something that started buzzing yesterday and all of a sudden
we saw it, DeAndre Hopkins going to the Kansas City
Chiefs from tennis See. So he goes from the Tennessee
and Will Levis to Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, he
may want to play for free now. So Hop is
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not a d hop's not a speed guy. They got
Xavier Worthy on the outside. That's their speed guy. I
don't think Worthy's ever going to be a fifteen target guy,
and at this point in his career either as d hop.
But he's a fifty to fifty ball guy. You can
throw it up, he can make plays. He's a veteran.
It's like Amari Cooper like to the Bills. Absolutely helps
the team. Don't expect one hundred catches, don't expect breakaway speed.
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But this is what the Kansas City Chiefs do. They
find a piece and if it works or doesn't work,
it's there quickly. Juju Smith, Schuster worked, moved him, brought
him back. Kadarius Tony kind of worked, kind of didn't
moved him quickly. It's cost effective. If the Chiefs are
doing it, it's going to be cost effective. It's going
to be smart. They're not going to stay with these
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players forever. Mahomes, Reid, Kelsey, Chris Jones, those guys and
maybe one of their corners. That's the foundation. You know
what the Kansas City now is like that show American
Pickers where they kind of go around and they go
shopping in some odd places for antiques, you know, stuff
past it's prime and it's silence. Let's drive over to
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Tennessee here and get d hop and a vintage oil can.
I mean, that's kind of what they do now. And
it's it's not a foundational piece. It's not gonna make
you rich. You go to these antique stories, you're not
gonna get rich. All the smart pickers already been there.
But it is something and what Kansas City can do
now because they have the foundation that is so strong,
they can do this. They can go find value pieces.
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But Juju Smith Schuster was great, He's on the market.
Nobody wants him, Like Pittsburgh can't really figure out offense.
He goes to Kansas City and has like lots of
targets and catches in a playoff game and they're like,
well, we're not gonna pay it. He goes to New England
and they don't know how to use him either. So
the two defensive cultures, Pittsburgh and New England can't figure
out how to use Jujus Smith Schuster Kansasity. He's like, oh,
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we'll use him and then we'll let go. Well, you
will use him again, and he's valuables, valuable piece for them.
You've got a corner stone. I d hop's gonna be
the same guy. And listen, they wouldn't have made this
move without Rashid Rice. They only have to give up
a fourth rounder. But we talked about this yesterday. The
difference in this league is not just quarterbacks, it's front offices. Baltimore,
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Derrick Henry Dallasher could have used him. Baltimore went and
got him the Rams. OBJ dysfunctional Cleveland. Oh it's a headache.
Obj went to the Rams. He was no headache at all.
Helped him get to the super Bowl. He was a
great piece. Got hurt in the super Bowl. But I
mean the Rams are like and by the way, Belichick
did this for years in New England, where he would
go to a Cleveland or a second tier team and like,
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there's an outside linebacker, situational pass rusher. They don't know
how to use him. They're in chaos. We'll bring him in.
Remember Collins the linebacker. They did that a couple of times.
It's like, this is what the good teams do. This
is what the Rams did with Obj. It's what kansasity
he's done with like a Juju Smith Schuster or a
d Hop. That's what Baltimore did with Dereck Henry. We
got the foundation, we got the Harbaugh, the Lamar, the
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Ronnie Stamp, a couple of defenders, a pass rusher and
won't move off linebackers. You know, we'll move off. But
we got our center, we got our left tackle, we
got the quarterback, the coach, we got the star safety,
one pass rusher, and we'll just find these little pieces
that fit in. They're not there for long. The op's
not going to be there probably in twenty five games.
But that's okay. Obja served. The purpose was a great Ram,
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worked hard, didn't seek constant attention. God helped him get
to a super Bowl, and they got a ring out
of it. So it was all good. J Mack with
a news no, no.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Let's get started with the New York Football Jets column,
losers of four straight trying.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
To get past the drama get a doub against the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
This weekend.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Aaron Rodgers talked about New York's poor play, saying the
Jets are playing with too much anger and not enough
enjoyment anywhere. That's coming from Rogers, that it starts with me.
I've got to bring the right energy every single day
and especially on game day.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
I need to be a great leader.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Now you're talking, Okay.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Rogers did pop up on the injury report Colin with
a hamstring injury, and.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
He's claiming ankle and knee injuries. So the body's starting
to wear down into his forties.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, they're not a playoff team. I thought they would
be close. I think they can get closer. But this
whole thing playing with too much anger. That's not why
they're losing. They got rid of their best coach. Aaron's
not a galvanizer, he's just talented. His buddy was the
OC and over his head. They had to switch that.
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This has nothing to do with anger and joy. Some
of my best shows are when I'm happy, some are
when I'm sad, some are when I'm angry. Nobody cares
that you compartmentalize that that's personal. It's not anger joy.
You'll ask coaches. They'll have a terrible week of Super
Bowl practice, come out and play flawless. You ask coaches
all the time like did you know they'd play well?
And you're like, we had we had a bad week
of practice, we had a great sunday. I mean joy
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happy and not.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
I get that anger jeorde but not to be body
language expert guy, but every single time the cameras pan
to Rodgers, he doesn't look happy, he doesn't look like
he's having fun. Well air in your teammates, and you
look to the leader, the Hall of Famer and he's
just sitting here, well and expressionless.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Colin, Like, you know, I think I said this yesterday
and I'll say it again. The Jets were Tampa before Brady.
Good receivers, good players, but you just like, is it
the right coach? We just need somebody to bring it
all together. Tom has that capability as a human being.
Forget the football player as a human being. I mean
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Tom used to introduce himself to every rookie every year.
He'd go high, I'm Tom Brady. I mean that's like
Mick Jagger at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Hi,
I'm Mick Jagger. Nice to meet you, young artist. But
that's who Tom is. Tom's a unifier even at Fox.
Everybody that works with Tom hard worker, joyful, funk guy.
That's who he is. We also had interviewed Jay Cutler here,
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that's not who he is. So not everybody, I mean,
like Russell Wilson is over it's like almost bizarrely optimistic.
Some guys are more cynical. Everybody's got a personality. But
the idea that you could throw Brady into Tampa or
the Jets and it would work, you could see that
that's who he is. Aaron is just absolutely gifted. So
the idea that he's moody, Aaron's always been moody. That's
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his personality.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Okay, so it's not just moody. He's often isolated. Colin
you see him sitting on the bench and there's nobody
on either side of him. And then you look at
like Josh Allen on the bench in Mahomes and I know,
different story because these teams are winning. But like Lamar
Jackson's always surrounded by dudes. People like Lamar Jackson. He's
a cool guy, he's fun to be around, he's cracking jokes.
I know he's at the top of his game right now.
But if you look at Lamar He's always sitting next
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to guys on the sideline.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I said, Rodgers, he's isolated well.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And I also feel, I also feel that Lamar Jackson
is the soul of the Ravens, and he's very very
well liked. He's one of the guys. I don't think
Aaron has ever felt like even when he was in
Green Bay, it always felt like it was the Aaron
Rodgers Corporation under the the LLLC of the packers. It
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never I mean, I knew he was a packer, but
once Brady started stacking trophies and the comparison between Aaron
and Brady got lobsided, Aaron got a little wizier, a little,
a little, a little, you know, he went into a
different kind of He's shifted to a different gear, and
it was never quite the same. He was always a corporation,
an s corp under a different LLC. And I always
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felt Brady Belichick, for that was just one big corporation
Craft Belichick, Brady Gronk, Edelman, it was one big I
feel that with Kansas City, I feel that with Baltimore.
I feel like that Stafford Sneid, Gronk uh Stan Cronckett,
certain organ is. I don't feel that with Dallas. It's
the Jones family and the coachs are about to fire.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Yeah, like Delisick would call out Brady and the family
and you know what, Yeah, but that shows that if
I can call out Brady, I can call out That's right.
I don't see anybody in the Jets calling out Aaron
Rodgers and you know players look at him.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Well, Rogers, what if you want what have you ever
done in your career? I got MVPs, I got Super
Bowl Like it's just a badji.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It was always a lobsided relationship. The first day Aaron
hit the soil in New York.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Don't love it, but I'm remaining optimistic. Let's go to
the next story. Josh Allen has I don't know if
you saw this. Last year, we threw a career high
eighteen interceptions.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Now this year none.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
He doesn't have any interceptions. Two fumbles this year, yeah,
twelve TV passes.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Well.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Sean McDermott had a ton of praise for how Allen
has protected the ball this year.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Tremendous, tremendous job. He really has.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I couldn't bet more so.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
He's with the way we protected the house on offense
and special teams.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
So all in all special teams.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
At offense led by Josh, they've done a great job
protected the house.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, it's it's strange to go from a lot. I
mean that would be like Jameis Winston coming into a
season and having no turnovers through seven weeks. I always
baked in Josh Allen turnovers. It's part of who he is.
I mean, you get it's Superman, and it sometimes uh,
you know, he goes a little too fast for the game,
Like I've never thought. Andrew Luck is a guy. I
just baked in interceptions at Peyton Manning and John Elway
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great players. I bacon an interception. I mean, Peyton is
going one hundred miles an hour. He's got a zillion
things in his head. He's playing ahead of the rest
of the players. If he throws thirty eight times, Peyton
has a pick, I can live with it. Josh, I
always said a turnover a game. The way he runs
and throws. For him to not have any is bizarre.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
So the matchup this week is against Seattle.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I know on the road Seattle should get their top
corner wooling back.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
This could be the week, we see him for a pick.
I see a lot of man coverage in the future.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Uh, you know a Woolen and they that's up really
Witherspoon in the slot against security, Like these are good
matchups for Seattle.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Yes, interesting game calling, but it's.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
One of the really good games this week. And I
think I did when Seattle is healthy. Defensively, I mean,
go ask Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
They're a handful look slight worry about g you know
Smith against his Buffalo secondary, which is playing pretty well,
although Mason Rudolf had a lot of success against.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
His Buffalo defense last year. Last week. I'm leaning Seattle,
but I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
But Josh Allen is on a heater right now, and
I know who's the better who's a better coach.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
In that game? I like McDonald a lot.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Final story, Colin is Major League Baseball. We've got a
clash of Titans in the World Series. It's Aaron Judge
and show Hey Otani. Game one is on Fox, whole
series is on Fox. Both Judge and O'tani will likely
land their respective league MVP awards at the end of
the season, but in the meantime, Judge praised O'tani ahead
of their matchup.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
It's for average, it's for power, the speed. You know,
do what he did this year with the fifty stolen bases.
That's it got talked about a lot. I don't think
it got talked about enough. It's just he's an impressive,
impressive athlete, you know, the best player in the game,
and you know what, an ambassador for this sport.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I mean, here's the thing. People view it as Otani
and Aaron Judge there is everybody know how good Mooky
Bets is. I mean Mookie Bets power, speed, glove, multiple positions,
steal a base hit for average. Mookie Bets is on
any night the best player when these two players are
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on the field, He'll have a game in this series
or two when Mooki will be the best player in
the game. It really comes down to this. The Yankees
starting pitching is great. Is their bullpen good enough? So
any I think the whole World Series is going to
come down to the seventh, eighth, and ninth innings. Can
the Yankees bull be because the Dodgers are thrown And
here's the other thing. The Dodgers would like a quicker
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series because they have to use the bullpen so much
now with all their injuries. That's fine for the first
five games. But if you get into game six, in
Game seven and you're the Dodgers and you're using guys
who you'd like to use twice in the series, now
you're using the guy a third and a fourth time
in a series. So if the series is short, if
you told me it goes five games, I'd say Dodgers.
If it goes seven, the advantagees moved to New York
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because they have better starting pitching. You get Garrett Cole
for a second time. By game seven, you could probably
pitch Garrett call for two winnings if you wanted to
win a trophy.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
Yes, I mean this should be a long series. I
see here.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Otani's fiftieth home run ball just was sold. You want
to guess what it went for.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Let me let me get let me guess.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
I mean, this is a tough one.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Okay, Okay, again a hint.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Mark McGuire's seventieth went for three million dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Okay, so I would say two.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Wrong way, it went for four point thirty nine million dollars.
Otani's fiftieth home run ball, that is listen man, this guy.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Is so you know, there's only one piece of memorabilia
my entire life that I wanted.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Oh you'll never get me a seventies baseball guy.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
No, no, no, it's a movie thing. Oh what is
Hannibal Lecters mask?
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Oh gosh, you're obsessed with.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I would have I would have spent I would have
I would have spent more than somebody spent on it.
And I didn't know it was available. It's the only
thing in my life.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
It was reasonably priced, it was less.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It went for less than I would have guessed. And
had I been somebody who was connected to that world,
I would have made a bit on it. That's the
only I've seen that movie forty two times.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
Clarie's I won't do imitation. Sorry, then that just leaked out.
It's a great movie. You don't wear that for Halloween.
The basket they had a pot.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's the only thing. Like, you know, I was a kid,
I had baseball cards. I collected NBA cards. Yeah, I
got those. Yeah, baseball cards were fine. Too many games.
I'm a kid. I was even as a kid, I
was add like, like when I was seven, I had NBA.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Cards everywhere and NFL cards.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Not really.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
I got some good NFL cards.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I had an NFL Cleveland Brown's jersey that was it.
Don't ask who was a quarterby Bernie Coosar Brian Sipe, California.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Is that a real person? Coming?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Was good?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Brian?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Hey, look it up. Seventies Brian Site. You want some stats,
I'll give you some numbers.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
No, that's okay. I'm gonna get on those seventies football
stats for the browse.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
J Mack with the news, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Herd number seventeen Brian Site from California. You know, my guys,
when I start doing this, they just are like, let's
get through the segment. You can hear people turning the channel.
So I want I want to get into that. So
big rumors yesterday on the innerweb that the Rams are
trading Cooper Cup very good player. Uh, and Matt Stafford
was on the market with Minnesota. I don't believe that.
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And as J Mack said, Uh, that could be out
there for a reason. So I don't see Sean McVeigh
moving off Matt Stafford and then for the next couple
of years rolling the dice on a rookie quarterback. In
what I've been told by two executives I trust is
a very soft quarterback draft. Chador Sanders people like a lot.
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Everybody else has baggage. Some of it you haven't heard
about yet. It is a really soft quarterback draft because
last year was amazing. We haven't seen JJ McCarthy. He
looked great in the preseason. We haven't seen much of Pennix,
he looked good in the preseason. And we know Caleb
bow Nicks, Jayden Daniels, we know they can play already.
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So I don't see my takeaway as Matt Stafford's got
two years left in his contract and then they don't
owe him anything. They have no guaranteed money in twenty six,
they can move off that. What I would do, I
would just for the rest of his contract. I would
surround Matt Stafford with as much as I could. The
division is wide open because San Francisco clearly clearly is
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getting older, Seattle doesn't have a great quarterback, and Arizona's
a poorly run outfit, and Stafford is still on any
given Sunday a top three to four quarterback in the NFL.
And the Rams are not a desperate team. They need
a number one corner, they need their right tackle of
the future, and they've got to get more speed at receiver.
On the perimeter. They've got the inside guy, the body,
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Puka Nakua. By the way, he's now getting close to
being available. Cooper Cup this week is available. By the way,
you forget about the Rams. So the Rams got a
bad draw this year. They drew the NFC North, the
best division by a mile in football. So they've already
played Chicago, Green Bay and Detroit and those are all
one score games. And that's without like Puka and Cooper Cup.
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The opener, when everybody was healthy. Against Detroit, they lost
twenty six to twenty. Detroit's the best team right now
in the NFC and maybe the best team in the NFL,
and when they were healthy, they went toe to toe
with them. Then the entire offensive line fell apart. Puka,
Cooper cupp A gone. So the Rams got a bad draw.
They're two and four. They are absolutely not out of
the playoff race. If they can beat Minnesota tomorrow night,
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go three and four, they will have all those NFC
North teams off their schedule. And then you get you know,
you start getting the Seahawks twice, Arizona twice. They've already
beaten San Francisco, so they're fine. I don't buy the
Stafford thing. They need a corner, tackle, a speed receiver,
probably a young safety, and maybe you know, next year
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you can draft a quarterback. But the class, you know,
in two years, the quarterback class is supposed to be
better than this year. But I don't buy the Stafford
thing because I think the Rams are still a playoff
wild card team. Hell, they could win the division. You
don't trust Seattle. Seattle loses the Buffalo, you think that's
the answer. Arizona's hot and cold. They can beat the
Niners then get routed by Green Bay. You don't know
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what you get with Arizona in San Francisco. We've seen
them in the last two years. When they face the
good teams, namely the Chiefs Baltimore, they get run. They
don't match up necessarily. So I don't buy this stuff
at all. Their defense is inexpensive, really really good, and
they don't have to pay anybody for about three years.
So go buy a big star receiver if you move
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off Cooper Cup, get draft picks, get a tackle, get
a corner. I don't buy it. I think it's one
of those. Now, now, could it happen? Sure, I'm not
on the phone. All they could happen. The Cooper Cup rumors,
I buy again. I think Cooper Cup to the right team.
Maybe Pittsburgh says, you know what, we need a slot receiver.
We got Pickens on the outside, we got Najee Harris.
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We need a nine to ten target guy, seven catch
guy on the slot with Russell Wilson. I could see
Pittsburgh making that move and giving them a third round pick,
maybe a fourth. But Stafford on any Sundays, one of
the five best quarterbacks, and I don't think McVay is
gonna roll the dice and go, yeah, let's just move
off Matt and take our chances with cam Ward. I
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don't think that's happening. I just don't think that's happening.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
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Speaker 1 (31:38):
The first time since nineteen eighty one, the Los Angeles
Dodgers and the New York Yankees.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It's gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
First time since nineteen fifty six, y'all have the home
run champions facing off for the World Series. I want
the world to see Shohei Otani on the biggest stage,
the twelfth Dodger Yankee World Series.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Stats ultimate dream World Series. What I've played was Yankee Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Game one Friday Night on Fox. One of the classic
rivalries in the sport were set for a dream World series.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Friday Night on Fox. The stage is set per an
iconic showdown.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Aaron Judge leads the Yankees against shoe A Otani and
the Dodgers in.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
A historic world series class certain. Game one from Dodgers
Stadium begins at seven pm Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So Game one is crucial for the Yankees. The Yankees
won a longer series. They have more elite arms available.
I mean, basically, the Dodgers have two pitchers, both will
have to go twice. They don't have a thirty elite arm.
There's too many injuries. So the longer the series goes,
the Yankees have more elite arms. So winning Game one
ensures the series goes five games. Nobody's sweeping the Dodgers.
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They have too many good bats, and you do even
if the Yankees out pitch and out play the Dodgers,
you can see the Dodgers winning some games on the
eighth and ninth inning because the Yankee bullpen's not as
good as the Dodger will has been. So Yankees won
a long series. The advantages the longer the series go,
you think, are for the Yankees. The Dodgers have been
using bullpens, which has been great. It's been fantastic, But
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you don't want to use some guys out of the
bullpen a third time in a series, which is probably
what you'd have to do if you go six or
seven games. So it works out to be a fascinating
chess match with Aaron Boone and Dave Roberts. Yankees want
to make sure when they do it that pitching advantage
like a Garrett Cole, you get the W because if
it goes bullpen or batting order advantage, probably Dodgers. So
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I can't wait for it. So an interesting story is
I spent the weekend in Chicago and there are love
Bear hats out there. People are all fired up. Everybody's
like how you think the Bears are? And I was
telling people that it takes steps and a great, great
example for the Bears to watch, and it's not perfectly
analogous is Detroit. So Detroit gets a new quarterback and
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gets a new coach, Dan Campbell Bears had Eberfluf Eberflus,
he's a holdover, so it's not perfectly aligned. But the
first year you're like, you know, win in some games,
but you're not an elite team, but man, do they
play hard. And in the second year with Dan Campbell
and Goff, you're like, man, they're putting some pieces together.
This this, this feels like it's getting close to maybe
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a wild card team. And then you're three last year,
you're like, oh, it's a good team, a little young,
maybe not a super Bowl team, as a good team.
And now we're in year four and you're like, a
that's that's probably the best team in the NFC four
years with the right coach, the right GM, the right quarterback,
the right tackles. So it's steps. This is step one,
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step two. For all we know, Eberflus isn't there. But
step one is, Okay, this rookie quarterback's good. Let's keep
developing it, Let's keep adding pieces to it. Let's beat
the teams like Tennessee, Carolina, JA Xonville. We should beat Okay,
check check check. But remember this is now easily easily
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the best division in football. Okay, So I look at
the schedule and you got three more weeks without a
lot of turbulence at Washington without Jaden Daniels. Maybe at
Arizona they're a mess week do we never know what
you get with Arizona and then New England. So is
seven and two a possibility? Yes, if Jaden Daniels doesn't play,
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let's go. Let's say go six and three. You win
two of those, so you're six and three. So that
step is we got the right quarterback, we won the
games we should win, and then you look at the Yeah,
the final eight games, it's a lot of At Detroit,
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at Minnesota, at Green Bay, at San Francisco, you're not
going to breeze through those. If you could go five
hundred tick or tape parade. Well, my take on Chicago
is it's steps quarterback's right O line probably needs another stud.
Receivers are nice. Eber Flus is very good on the
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defensive side. It's like Houston last year. Houston got everything right.
They get the coach right, Houston got the quarterback right.
They had a great left tackle, they hit on some
draft picks. You're like, oh, Houston, but you didn't think
they were a super Bowl team. Now this year with Houston,
they had Joe Mixon, they had another draft picker too.
You're like, really like Houston. And you see how bumpy
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it's been for Houston. You see him get blown out
at Minnesota early. You see him lose his past weekend. Oh,
because Houston now had to play the NFC North. It's
pretty hard to go to Green Bay and win, pretty
hard to go to Minnesota and win. You notice that.
So Houston is probably going to be ahead of Chicago
because the division's easier. But this year Houston gets a
bad draw. Oh they got to play in Bear's division. Yeah,
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it's not I would. Here's the thing. It takes steps,
and those steps are oh as quicker if you're in
a bad division. The problem with the Bears is they're
now moving in a month into the schlog of the
best division with a lot of acts. So it's go
get bumpy, and if you could do five hundred, if
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you can come out of this next three grad stretch
with six wins, and then you could get three more.
Now you laugh, but three more can you split with Detroit,
can you split with Green Bay? I'm not joking here.
That's a big ask because you're not as good as
those teams. I mean, let's be honest about it. Detroit's
got a better roster and right now better quarterback. Minnesota
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has a better coach and a better receiving group. Believe
it or not, they do justin Jefferson and Green Bay's
got a better coach, a better organization, deeper wide receiver corps,
maybe younger, but deeper, better O line probably, So those
two in San Francisco's just got better players. So it is.
It's it's gonna get real cold. Chicago always gets cold
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in about two weeks. It's gonna get real cold here
in about three weeks. Is that that, you know? The
wind off the lake called at Detroit, at Green Bay,
at Minnesota, at San Francisco. Take a deep breath. This
is very much Houston in a tougher division. It's Detroit.
Detroit's done virtually everything right. Brad Holmes a great GM.
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And by the way, Detroit and Chicago do not have
great owners. And they got the coach right, the GM right,
the quarterback right, the offensive tackles right. And here in
year four, we finally look at Detroit and go I'd
be disappointed if they didn't get to the NFC Championship.
And they've done everything right by the way Houston week
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owners coach right, quarterback right, oh, c right, left, tackle right,
acquisition's right, and they feel like in year two they're
a little less insistent than we were hoping for.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
The only thing I would disagree on is if you're
the Bears, do not look ahead to Detroit.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
Forget about green Bay. What do we got this week?
Speaker 6 (39:09):
We got Washington And within the last ten minutes they
just announced Jayden Daniels is not practicing today.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
We'll see if he can go Friday.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
And then Ian Rapaport NFL network, who we know is
kind of plugged in, says it's trending toward Mariota starting
this weekend. Well, now you get the Bears against the Commanders,
you gotta win this game. Go to get the five
and two beating a backup quarterback, and then the rest
sort itself out.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Well, even if they go seven and two, what's gonna happen.
People in Chicago are going to go happy days are
here again. At Detroit, at many at green Bay, well, Let's.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Get seven and two. Let's get the seven and two calory.
Come on, I like the Bears this.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Side just six and three I would take today if
you gave me an OP six. Oh, I take six,
and Arizona.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
Fans will take six and three at a heartbeat.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Not Chiefs fans that's not good enough, but Jets fan
Speaker 1 (39:57):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
So Wednesday, lots and lots to talk about in La
Lebron and Browny World Series coming up with the Dodgers
and Yankees. It's the Herd wherever you may be and
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. So years ago, j Mac Joel Clatt
in one hour when I was a local news anchor
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sports guy. I love sports, and every year one of
the local teams you know, would get into the Final
four or a World Series, and the news director wouldn't
make the sports guys have to do like fluffy sports stories,
Pom palm waving stories, and I'm like, no, I'm a
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sports guy. I have sources. You once you send the
lightweight newspeople to do sports stories. So I felt like
last night last night it was basically for the lightweights
who don't really follow sports. The influencers. Bronnie and Lebron
are playing, and it was good for their family. That's cool,
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and their business partners and that's cool, and influencers and
people that don't really watch the game. It will have
zero impact. It was cool. It was a moment first
father son duo. It was great. I get it. It
was a moment. It'll have zero impact on the Lakers.
In fact, if JJ Ruddick is forced to play Brownie,
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it will hurt the team. I mean, you saw Aunt
Edwards looked at Bronnie as a liability. Let's go attack him.
Bronnie is small, He's six, and he's not a point guard.
He's a six to one off guard. He would not
be a dominant G League player. He would be a
G League player. And I get it. I get it.
I live in Los Angeles, red carpet Hollywood. I get it.
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I've said before Lebron carried the league for fifteen years.
You're doing him as solid. The Lakers told other teams
don't draft Brownie. I get it. I had no animosity.
I think it's fun. The Griffies. I'm a Seattle kid,
the Griffies, the kid, dad and son play together. I
get it. But if we're serious here just this is
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just fluff. This is for influencer types. You know, the
cameras come out, everybody's taking pictures. I was there. That's fine.
I mean, you go to a restaurant in La it's
twenty three year olds, I mean taking pictures of their food. Like,
I get it. But for serious basketball people, all I
watched was JJ Reddick and the thing I would be
(02:57):
encouraged about. The Lakers ball movement was better than a
was with Darvin Ham. The spacing was better than it
was with Darvin Ham. And Anthony Davis got to the
free throw line fifteen times. So Anthony Davis JJ Reddick
is all in and as an offensive coach, knows how
to use him better than Darvin Ham did. That's what
I watched. The other stuff felt like a soft launch
(03:19):
for a Kardashian show, all right, But I mean what
I was watching was, oh my god, this is the
most engaged Anthony Davis is all in. Lebron still fine.
Austin Rivers has put on ten pounds of muscle. Dalton
connect that's fun. Could he win Rookie of the Year.
But all I cared about last night, and again maybe
I'm old school. I don't want to be grumpy old guy.
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The browny thing was cool for the family, Savannah, Lebron,
the kids, it's a great moment. It's amazing. Let's not
let it get in the way of stuff. I'm looking
at JJ Reddick, I'm looking at Anthony Davis, the rookie.
I still think they could use another three point shooter.
But in the end, I understand what last night was right.
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It was it's the it's the local news anchors pretending
they care about sports because the team's in the super Bowl.
It's bring out the cameras and the iPhones. It's adorable.
I'm happy for Lebron and his family. It's an amazing family,
American success story. Bronnie seems like a nice kid, but
he's a six to one off guard. They don't exist
in the NBA. I mean six to one point guards.
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You have to be so athletic. You got to be
Jahn Morant to be a small point guard to succeed
in this league. To be a small off guard, you
you would have to be the best three point shooter
or the best defender at six to one in league history.
So can we just you know, it's so let's let's
let's just give them their moment. It's nice. Here's Bronnie,
who's a good kid, works hard, seems like a joyful person,
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good family, and lebron after.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Try not to focus on, uh, you know, everything that's
going on around me and trying to focus on going
in as a rookie and not trying to mess up.
But yeah, I mean I totally did feel the energy,
and yeah, I appreciate the Laker nation for you know,
showing that support from you and my dad.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
We still had a job to do when we checked in.
We wasn't trying to make it a circus. We wasn't
trying to make it about us. We wanted to make
it about the team. And you know, for us to
go out there and continue to play the Brandon basketball
and that the closure staff and our teammates wanted us
to play. We kept that, kept the main thing, the
main thing while we was on the floor, and that
was that was good for all of us.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yes, it wasn't a circus. It wasn't The Lakers won.
Minnesota was a little out of sorts in the first half.
Cat's gone Julius Randal in Dante vi Evincenzo is gonna
be a nice fit. Minnesota's going to be fine. They
have a really good coaching staff, They're good players. I
think they could be as good or better than last year.
They didn't get their feet under him in the first half.
(05:52):
It's the first game. Don't make too much of Minnesota.
I like their pieces. Julius Randall, you know, dribbles too much,
takes the air of the ball. Not my favorite and
in the moment was not a circus. But let's be honest.
If you're going to force the Lakers to play Browny,
it will be and it'll get in the way of
what a team that may be at best a playing team.
But jj reddick I thought the spacing, the movement and
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his use of Anthony Davis was fantastic. That's what I thought. Okay,
so well, well, well, if you watched the early game,
it capped off what was another wonderful week for New
York sports. The Giants are again hideous and hopeless. The Jets,
what a shock. They've already fired a coach. They're a mess.
The Met's cute story Bye Bye. Overwhelmed by the Dodgers, Bats,
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and the Knicks won't be able to compete against the
Celtics this year, thanks for flying United. Yeah, that was ugly.
The Celtics led at one point, by thirty five points. Now,
let's be fair the Knicks, and they know this. They
have to get another three point shooter. They moved Dante
DiVincenzo to get Karl Anthony Towns. Now CAP's the better player,
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and they need size to compete against you know, Porzingis
and Ambiide and Giannis. I totally got the move. But
McHale Bridges gives the Knicks another wing defender. But you're
still gonna make threes, not just defend them. And Boston,
I mean, Boston last season led the NBA in three
point shots and makes. Yet they decided during the offseason,
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let's shoot more. Last year they averaged forty two. Last
night they shot sixty one. And so you got a
couple of new Knicks and they're trying to kind of
like Minnesota, figure out what they are. And you have
the returning champs one through eight. There's nobody close to
the Celtics in the league. Oklahoma City's good. One through eight,
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Denver Minnesota, Denver was better. A couple of years ago
one through eight. That's why they won the title. The
Knicks one through eight can't compete with the Celtics one
through eight, So they've got to add a piece, maybe
at the trade deadline that can go take a big swing.
They'll defend the three better with Michale Bridges. But what
you were watching last night was a table size and
freshwood that that wasn't competitive. And the Knicks will not
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beat the Celtics unless they go get another three point shooter.
And Dante DiVincenzo was that guy last year. But what
I see last night is two things. Okay, So Devintenzo's gone.
That's gonna be more pressure on Brunson because Mikhail Bridges
is not a playmaker. He's not a shot creator. He
was at his best in Phoenix when they had Devin
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Booker Chris Paul Spacing. That's when he was at his best.
So Brunson last year fell apart physically because the team
was two Jalen Brunson dominant and centric. Well, now by
losing Dante DiVincenzo, that's more pressure offensively on Brunson and
Isaiah Hartenstein, the big kid they sent to OKCE Or
that signed with okac, he gave you about eight nine
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ten points a night, gritty, blue collar, tough guy, high percentage.
Those were freebie points eight they're all gone and Devingenzo
catch and shoot threes. That's out the door. So you're
gonna knee Carl Anthony Towns to give you twenty six
a night, and he'll have thirty two point nights and
they'll have nineteen point nights and he gets into his feelings.
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So I do feel like watching last night is they
have to add another piece otherwise it's gonna become Hey,
Jalen Brunson, save us. And I'm sorry, when Derek White
your fourth or fifth best player, I mean that he
would be. I mean he would be arguably the next
second best player. So this team and let's they get
another shooter and score and consistency from Kat And that's
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always been the issue. Cat's talent's great, consistency not so great.
Sometimes gets a little weird in big spots, and then
it can be great in spots you don't need him.
I feel like last night is Nix will be fine
in March, but last night that's true, serum. That's how
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good the Celtics are. One through eight, and how much
you need Jalen Brunson and score thirty eight to even
compete with Boston. Here's TIBs after.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think you have to have the appropriate reaction to it.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
It's disappointing that we didn't play better, but I'm not
disappointed in our team.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
For the record, the Celtics, we're twenty nine of sixty
one on threes, so they're not going to shoot.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
That most nights.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
They may go nineteen of sixty one. That would be
closer to what teams would on average shoot. But one
through eight, make no doubt, there's a real argument to
be made that the only teams that can match up
both ends of the floor against the Celtics are out West.
(10:42):
I think, okay, seeing Denver matchup Minnesota, let's wait and
see on that. Dallas. Hey, listen, if Kyrie, Clay and
Luca can get along, maybe they match up with threes.
But right now the Knicks and af have to add
another shooter. And you know, Mikhale Bridges, we got to
be honest here, he's not a shot creator. Okay, he
can finish, but he not a shot creator. So it's
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going to be very much on Jalen Brunton like it
was last year. The good news is Brunton's a terrific player,
better than anybody thought he would be in New York.
Uh And so that's good. So j Mac Joel clatt
in one hour from now. The Kansas City Chiefs made
another move. A lot of talk yesterday on the old interweb.
I was sitting around, took a little net, watched a
little TV yesterday and I was reading some stuff on
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football and the whole Matt Stafford on the trading block thing.
Be very careful about Matt Stafford on the trading block.
That's that's That's not what I'm hearing. It's almost like
that's out there for a reason. I don't know what
that reason is.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
I've gone through some permutations of why that could be
and why all of why would the Rams be calling teams?
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Are you interested in Cooper Cup?
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Sounds a little fishy something's going on there, and I
don't think it's we want to move off Cooper Cup.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
I'll just I'll leave it at that, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
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Speaker 1 (12:01):
App All right, last night started the NBA season. Forty
five minutes from now, I'll have my five bold predictions
for the NBA season. Five bold predictions in forty five
minutes from now on the NBA season, plus Joel Clatt
stops by. So we're getting closer to the trading deadline.
Trading deadline here, very very close. You're getting the Cooper
Cup rumors. I do buy some of those. He's brittle
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and expensive, but he could make an impact for a
team that needs a shot in the arm. Stafford stuff
I don't buy, and then you're gonna have team shopping people.
As Jamack pointed out, some teams are putting stuff out there.
They want to lubricate some action in the league. They
want to get stuff going. So there's like game playing.
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It's like before the draft. Mel Kiper once told me
before a draft he never gets lied to more than
the two weeks before the draft. So you have to
kind of sort out what's true what's not true. So
something that started buzzing yesterday and all of a sudden
we saw it, DeAndre Hopkins going to the Kansas City
Chiefs from tennis See. So he goes from the Tennessee
and Will Levis to Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, he
may want to play for free now. So Hop is
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not a d hop's not a speed guy. They got
Xavier Worthy on the outside. That's their speed guy. I
don't think Worthy's ever going to be a fifteen target guy,
and at this point in his career either as d hop.
But he's a fifty to fifty ball guy. You can
throw it up, he can make plays. He's a veteran.
It's like Amari Cooper like to the Bills. Absolutely helps
the team. Don't expect one hundred catches, don't expect breakaway speed.
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But this is what the Kansas City Chiefs do. They
find a piece and if it works or doesn't work,
it's there quickly. Juju Smith, Schuster worked, moved him, brought
him back. Kadarius Tony kind of worked, kind of didn't
moved him quickly. It's cost effective. If the Chiefs are
doing it, it's going to be cost effective. It's going
to be smart. They're not going to stay with these
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players forever. Mahomes, Reid, Kelsey, Chris Jones, those guys and
maybe one of their corners. That's the foundation. You know
what the Kansas City now is like that show American
Pickers where they kind of go around and they go
shopping in some odd places for antiques, you know, stuff
past it's prime and it's silence. Let's drive over to
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Tennessee here and get d hop and a vintage oil can.
I mean, that's kind of what they do now. And
it's it's not a foundational piece. It's not gonna make
you rich. You go to these antique stories, you're not
gonna get rich. All the smart pickers already been there.
But it is something and what Kansas City can do
now because they have the foundation that is so strong,
they can do this. They can go find value pieces.
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But Juju Smith Schuster was great, He's on the market.
Nobody wants him, Like Pittsburgh can't really figure out offense.
He goes to Kansas City and has like lots of
targets and catches in a playoff game and they're like,
well, we're not gonna pay it. He goes to New England
and they don't know how to use him either. So
the two defensive cultures, Pittsburgh and New England can't figure
out how to use Jujus Smith Schuster Kansasity. He's like, oh,
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we'll use him and then we'll let go. Well, you
will use him again, and he's valuables, valuable piece for them.
You've got a corner stone. I d hop's gonna be
the same guy. And listen, they wouldn't have made this
move without Rashid Rice. They only have to give up
a fourth rounder. But we talked about this yesterday. The
difference in this league is not just quarterbacks, it's front offices. Baltimore,
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Derrick Henry Dallasher could have used him. Baltimore went and
got him the Rams. OBJ dysfunctional Cleveland. Oh it's a headache.
Obj went to the Rams. He was no headache at all.
Helped him get to the super Bowl. He was a
great piece. Got hurt in the super Bowl. But I
mean the Rams are like and by the way, Belichick
did this for years in New England, where he would
go to a Cleveland or a second tier team and like,
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there's an outside linebacker, situational pass rusher. They don't know
how to use him. They're in chaos. We'll bring him in.
Remember Collins the linebacker. They did that a couple of times.
It's like, this is what the good teams do. This
is what the Rams did with Obj. It's what kansasity
he's done with like a Juju Smith Schuster or a
d Hop. That's what Baltimore did with Dereck Henry. We
got the foundation, we got the Harbaugh, the Lamar, the
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Ronnie Stamp, a couple of defenders, a pass rusher and
won't move off linebackers. You know, we'll move off. But
we got our center, we got our left tackle, we
got the quarterback, the coach, we got the star safety,
one pass rusher, and we'll just find these little pieces
that fit in. They're not there for long. The op's
not going to be there probably in twenty five games.
But that's okay. Obja served. The purpose was a great Ram,
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worked hard, didn't seek constant attention. God helped him get
to a super Bowl, and they got a ring out
of it. So it was all good. J Mack with
a news no, no.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Let's get started with the New York Football Jets column,
losers of four straight trying.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
To get past the drama get a doub against the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
This weekend.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Aaron Rodgers talked about New York's poor play, saying the
Jets are playing with too much anger and not enough
enjoyment anywhere. That's coming from Rogers, that it starts with me.
I've got to bring the right energy every single day
and especially on game day.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
I need to be a great leader.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Now you're talking, Okay.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Rogers did pop up on the injury report Colin with
a hamstring injury, and.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
He's claiming ankle and knee injuries. So the body's starting
to wear down into his forties.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, they're not a playoff team. I thought they would
be close. I think they can get closer. But this
whole thing playing with too much anger. That's not why
they're losing. They got rid of their best coach. Aaron's
not a galvanizer, he's just talented. His buddy was the
OC and over his head. They had to switch that.
(17:33):
This has nothing to do with anger and joy. Some
of my best shows are when I'm happy, some are
when I'm sad, some are when I'm angry. Nobody cares
that you compartmentalize that that's personal. It's not anger joy.
You'll ask coaches. They'll have a terrible week of Super
Bowl practice, come out and play flawless. You ask coaches
all the time like did you know they'd play well?
And you're like, we had we had a bad week
of practice, we had a great sunday. I mean joy
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happy and not.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
I get that anger jeorde but not to be body
language expert guy, but every single time the cameras pan
to Rodgers, he doesn't look happy, he doesn't look like
he's having fun. Well air in your teammates, and you
look to the leader, the Hall of Famer and he's
just sitting here, well and expressionless.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Colin, Like, you know, I think I said this yesterday
and I'll say it again. The Jets were Tampa before Brady.
Good receivers, good players, but you just like, is it
the right coach? We just need somebody to bring it
all together. Tom has that capability as a human being.
Forget the football player as a human being. I mean
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Tom used to introduce himself to every rookie every year.
He'd go high, I'm Tom Brady. I mean that's like
Mick Jagger at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Hi,
I'm Mick Jagger. Nice to meet you, young artist. But
that's who Tom is. Tom's a unifier even at Fox.
Everybody that works with Tom hard worker, joyful, funk guy.
That's who he is. We also had interviewed Jay Cutler here,
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that's not who he is. So not everybody, I mean,
like Russell Wilson is over it's like almost bizarrely optimistic.
Some guys are more cynical. Everybody's got a personality. But
the idea that you could throw Brady into Tampa or
the Jets and it would work, you could see that
that's who he is. Aaron is just absolutely gifted. So
the idea that he's moody, Aaron's always been moody. That's
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his personality.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Okay, so it's not just moody. He's often isolated. Colin
you see him sitting on the bench and there's nobody
on either side of him. And then you look at
like Josh Allen on the bench in Mahomes and I know,
different story because these teams are winning. But like Lamar
Jackson's always surrounded by dudes. People like Lamar Jackson. He's
a cool guy, he's fun to be around, he's cracking jokes.
I know he's at the top of his game right now.
But if you look at Lamar He's always sitting next
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to guys on the sideline.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I said, Rodgers, he's isolated well.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And I also feel, I also feel that Lamar Jackson
is the soul of the Ravens, and he's very very
well liked. He's one of the guys. I don't think
Aaron has ever felt like even when he was in
Green Bay, it always felt like it was the Aaron
Rodgers Corporation under the the LLLC of the packers. It
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never I mean, I knew he was a packer, but
once Brady started stacking trophies and the comparison between Aaron
and Brady got lobsided, Aaron got a little wizier, a little,
a little, a little, you know, he went into a
different kind of He's shifted to a different gear, and
it was never quite the same. He was always a corporation,
an s corp under a different LLC. And I always
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felt Brady Belichick, for that was just one big corporation
Craft Belichick, Brady Gronk, Edelman, it was one big I
feel that with Kansas City, I feel that with Baltimore.
I feel like that Stafford Sneid, Gronk uh Stan Cronckett,
certain organ is. I don't feel that with Dallas. It's
the Jones family and the coachs are about to fire.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Yeah, like Delisick would call out Brady and the family
and you know what, Yeah, but that shows that if
I can call out Brady, I can call out That's right.
I don't see anybody in the Jets calling out Aaron
Rodgers and you know players look at him.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Well, Rogers, what if you want what have you ever
done in your career? I got MVPs, I got Super
Bowl Like it's just a badji.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It was always a lobsided relationship. The first day Aaron
hit the soil in New York.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Don't love it, but I'm remaining optimistic. Let's go to
the next story. Josh Allen has I don't know if
you saw this. Last year, we threw a career high
eighteen interceptions.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Now this year none.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
He doesn't have any interceptions. Two fumbles this year, yeah,
twelve TV passes.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Well.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Sean McDermott had a ton of praise for how Allen
has protected the ball this year.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Tremendous, tremendous job. He really has.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I couldn't bet more so.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
He's with the way we protected the house on offense
and special teams.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
So all in all special teams.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
At offense led by Josh, they've done a great job
protected the house.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, it's it's strange to go from a lot. I
mean that would be like Jameis Winston coming into a
season and having no turnovers through seven weeks. I always
baked in Josh Allen turnovers. It's part of who he is.
I mean, you get it's Superman, and it sometimes uh,
you know, he goes a little too fast for the game,
Like I've never thought. Andrew Luck is a guy. I
just baked in interceptions at Peyton Manning and John Elway
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great players. I bacon an interception. I mean, Peyton is
going one hundred miles an hour. He's got a zillion
things in his head. He's playing ahead of the rest
of the players. If he throws thirty eight times, Peyton
has a pick, I can live with it. Josh, I
always said a turnover a game. The way he runs
and throws. For him to not have any is bizarre.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
So the matchup this week is against Seattle.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I know on the road Seattle should get their top
corner wooling back.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
This could be the week, we see him for a pick.
I see a lot of man coverage in the future.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Uh, you know a Woolen and they that's up really
Witherspoon in the slot against security, Like these are good
matchups for Seattle.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Yes, interesting game calling, but it's.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
One of the really good games this week. And I
think I did when Seattle is healthy. Defensively, I mean,
go ask Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
They're a handful look slight worry about g you know
Smith against his Buffalo secondary, which is playing pretty well,
although Mason Rudolf had a lot of success against.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
His Buffalo defense last year. Last week. I'm leaning Seattle,
but I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
But Josh Allen is on a heater right now, and
I know who's the better who's a better coach.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
In that game? I like McDonald a lot.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Final story, Colin is Major League Baseball. We've got a
clash of Titans in the World Series. It's Aaron Judge
and show Hey Otani. Game one is on Fox, whole
series is on Fox. Both Judge and O'tani will likely
land their respective league MVP awards at the end of
the season, but in the meantime, Judge praised O'tani ahead
of their matchup.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
It's for average, it's for power, the speed. You know,
do what he did this year with the fifty stolen bases.
That's it got talked about a lot. I don't think
it got talked about enough. It's just he's an impressive,
impressive athlete, you know, the best player in the game,
and you know what, an ambassador for this sport.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I mean, here's the thing. People view it as Otani
and Aaron Judge there is everybody know how good Mooky
Bets is. I mean Mookie Bets power, speed, glove, multiple positions,
steal a base hit for average. Mookie Bets is on
any night the best player when these two players are
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on the field, He'll have a game in this series
or two when Mooki will be the best player in
the game. It really comes down to this. The Yankees
starting pitching is great. Is their bullpen good enough? So
any I think the whole World Series is going to
come down to the seventh, eighth, and ninth innings. Can
the Yankees bull be because the Dodgers are thrown And
here's the other thing. The Dodgers would like a quicker
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series because they have to use the bullpen so much
now with all their injuries. That's fine for the first
five games. But if you get into game six, in
Game seven and you're the Dodgers and you're using guys
who you'd like to use twice in the series, now
you're using the guy a third and a fourth time
in a series. So if the series is short, if
you told me it goes five games, I'd say Dodgers.
If it goes seven, the advantagees moved to New York
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because they have better starting pitching. You get Garrett Cole
for a second time. By game seven, you could probably
pitch Garrett call for two winnings if you wanted to
win a trophy.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
Yes, I mean this should be a long series. I
see here.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Otani's fiftieth home run ball just was sold. You want
to guess what it went for.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Let me let me get let me guess.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
I mean, this is a tough one.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Okay, Okay, again a hint.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Mark McGuire's seventieth went for three million dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Okay, so I would say two.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Wrong way, it went for four point thirty nine million dollars.
Otani's fiftieth home run ball, that is listen man, this guy.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Is so you know, there's only one piece of memorabilia
my entire life that I wanted.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Oh you'll never get me a seventies baseball guy.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
No, no, no, it's a movie thing. Oh what is
Hannibal Lecters mask?
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Oh gosh, you're obsessed with.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I would have I would have spent I would have
I would have spent more than somebody spent on it.
And I didn't know it was available. It's the only
thing in my life.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
It was reasonably priced, it was less.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It went for less than I would have guessed. And
had I been somebody who was connected to that world,
I would have made a bit on it. That's the
only I've seen that movie forty two times.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
Clarie's I won't do imitation. Sorry, then that just leaked out.
It's a great movie. You don't wear that for Halloween.
The basket they had a pot.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's the only thing. Like, you know, I was a kid,
I had baseball cards. I collected NBA cards. Yeah, I
got those. Yeah, baseball cards were fine. Too many games.
I'm a kid. I was even as a kid, I
was add like, like when I was seven, I had NBA.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Cards everywhere and NFL cards.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Not really.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
I got some good NFL cards.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I had an NFL Cleveland Brown's jersey that was it.
Don't ask who was a quarterby Bernie Coosar Brian Sipe, California.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Is that a real person? Coming?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Was good?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Brian?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Hey, look it up. Seventies Brian Site. You want some stats,
I'll give you some numbers.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
No, that's okay. I'm gonna get on those seventies football
stats for the browse.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
J Mack with the news, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Herd number seventeen Brian Site from California. You know, my guys,
when I start doing this, they just are like, let's
get through the segment. You can hear people turning the channel.
So I want I want to get into that. So
big rumors yesterday on the innerweb that the Rams are
trading Cooper Cup very good player. Uh, and Matt Stafford
was on the market with Minnesota. I don't believe that.
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And as J Mack said, Uh, that could be out
there for a reason. So I don't see Sean McVeigh
moving off Matt Stafford and then for the next couple
of years rolling the dice on a rookie quarterback. In
what I've been told by two executives I trust is
a very soft quarterback draft. Chador Sanders people like a lot.
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Everybody else has baggage. Some of it you haven't heard
about yet. It is a really soft quarterback draft because
last year was amazing. We haven't seen JJ McCarthy. He
looked great in the preseason. We haven't seen much of Pennix,
he looked good in the preseason. And we know Caleb
bow Nicks, Jayden Daniels, we know they can play already.
(28:16):
So I don't see my takeaway as Matt Stafford's got
two years left in his contract and then they don't
owe him anything. They have no guaranteed money in twenty six,
they can move off that. What I would do, I
would just for the rest of his contract. I would
surround Matt Stafford with as much as I could. The
division is wide open because San Francisco clearly clearly is
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getting older, Seattle doesn't have a great quarterback, and Arizona's
a poorly run outfit, and Stafford is still on any
given Sunday a top three to four quarterback in the NFL.
And the Rams are not a desperate team. They need
a number one corner, they need their right tackle of
the future, and they've got to get more speed at receiver.
On the perimeter. They've got the inside guy, the body,
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Puka Nakua. By the way, he's now getting close to
being available. Cooper Cup this week is available. By the way,
you forget about the Rams. So the Rams got a
bad draw this year. They drew the NFC North, the
best division by a mile in football. So they've already
played Chicago, Green Bay and Detroit and those are all
one score games. And that's without like Puka and Cooper Cup.
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The opener, when everybody was healthy. Against Detroit, they lost
twenty six to twenty. Detroit's the best team right now
in the NFC and maybe the best team in the NFL,
and when they were healthy, they went toe to toe
with them. Then the entire offensive line fell apart. Puka,
Cooper cupp A gone. So the Rams got a bad draw.
They're two and four. They are absolutely not out of
the playoff race. If they can beat Minnesota tomorrow night,
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go three and four, they will have all those NFC
North teams off their schedule. And then you get you know,
you start getting the Seahawks twice, Arizona twice. They've already
beaten San Francisco, so they're fine. I don't buy the
Stafford thing. They need a corner, tackle, a speed receiver,
probably a young safety, and maybe you know, next year
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you can draft a quarterback. But the class, you know,
in two years, the quarterback class is supposed to be
better than this year. But I don't buy the Stafford
thing because I think the Rams are still a playoff
wild card team. Hell, they could win the division. You
don't trust Seattle. Seattle loses the Buffalo, you think that's
the answer. Arizona's hot and cold. They can beat the
Niners then get routed by Green Bay. You don't know
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what you get with Arizona in San Francisco. We've seen
them in the last two years. When they face the
good teams, namely the Chiefs Baltimore, they get run. They
don't match up necessarily. So I don't buy this stuff
at all. Their defense is inexpensive, really really good, and
they don't have to pay anybody for about three years.
So go buy a big star receiver if you move
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off Cooper Cup, get draft picks, get a tackle, get
a corner. I don't buy it. I think it's one
of those. Now, now, could it happen? Sure, I'm not
on the phone. All they could happen. The Cooper Cup rumors,
I buy again. I think Cooper Cup to the right team.
Maybe Pittsburgh says, you know what, we need a slot receiver.
We got Pickens on the outside, we got Najee Harris.
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We need a nine to ten target guy, seven catch
guy on the slot with Russell Wilson. I could see
Pittsburgh making that move and giving them a third round pick,
maybe a fourth. But Stafford on any Sundays, one of
the five best quarterbacks, and I don't think McVay is
gonna roll the dice and go, yeah, let's just move
off Matt and take our chances with cam Ward. I
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don't think that's happening. I just don't think that's happening.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays
and noon Easter nin a em Pacific for.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
The first time since nineteen eighty one, the Los Angeles
Dodgers and the New York Yankees.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It's gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
First time since nineteen fifty six, y'all have the home
run champions facing off for the World Series. I want
the world to see Shohei Otani on the biggest stage,
the twelfth Dodger Yankee World Series.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Stats ultimate dream World Series. What I've played was Yankee Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Game one Friday Night on Fox. One of the classic
rivalries in the sport were set for a dream World series.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Friday Night on Fox. The stage is set per an
iconic showdown.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Aaron Judge leads the Yankees against shoe A Otani and
the Dodgers in.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
A historic world series class certain. Game one from Dodgers
Stadium begins at seven pm Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So Game one is crucial for the Yankees. The Yankees
won a longer series. They have more elite arms available.
I mean, basically, the Dodgers have two pitchers, both will
have to go twice. They don't have a thirty elite arm.
There's too many injuries. So the longer the series goes,
the Yankees have more elite arms. So winning Game one
ensures the series goes five games. Nobody's sweeping the Dodgers.
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They have too many good bats, and you do even
if the Yankees out pitch and out play the Dodgers,
you can see the Dodgers winning some games on the
eighth and ninth inning because the Yankee bullpen's not as
good as the Dodger will has been. So Yankees won
a long series. The advantages the longer the series go,
you think, are for the Yankees. The Dodgers have been
using bullpens, which has been great. It's been fantastic, But
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you don't want to use some guys out of the
bullpen a third time in a series, which is probably
what you'd have to do if you go six or
seven games. So it works out to be a fascinating
chess match with Aaron Boone and Dave Roberts. Yankees want
to make sure when they do it that pitching advantage
like a Garrett Cole, you get the W because if
it goes bullpen or batting order advantage, probably Dodgers. So
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I can't wait for it. So an interesting story is
I spent the weekend in Chicago and there are love
Bear hats out there. People are all fired up. Everybody's
like how you think the Bears are? And I was
telling people that it takes steps and a great, great
example for the Bears to watch, and it's not perfectly
analogous is Detroit. So Detroit gets a new quarterback and
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gets a new coach, Dan Campbell Bears had Eberfluf Eberflus,
he's a holdover, so it's not perfectly aligned. But the
first year you're like, you know, win in some games,
but you're not an elite team, but man, do they
play hard. And in the second year with Dan Campbell
and Goff, you're like, man, they're putting some pieces together.
This this, this feels like it's getting close to maybe
(34:20):
a wild card team. And then you're three last year,
you're like, oh, it's a good team, a little young,
maybe not a super Bowl team, as a good team.
And now we're in year four and you're like, a
that's that's probably the best team in the NFC four
years with the right coach, the right GM, the right quarterback,
the right tackles. So it's steps. This is step one,
(34:44):
step two. For all we know, Eberflus isn't there. But
step one is, Okay, this rookie quarterback's good. Let's keep
developing it, Let's keep adding pieces to it. Let's beat
the teams like Tennessee, Carolina, JA Xonville. We should beat Okay,
check check check. But remember this is now easily easily
(35:06):
the best division in football. Okay, So I look at
the schedule and you got three more weeks without a
lot of turbulence at Washington without Jaden Daniels. Maybe at
Arizona they're a mess week do we never know what
you get with Arizona and then New England. So is
seven and two a possibility? Yes, if Jaden Daniels doesn't play,
(35:28):
let's go. Let's say go six and three. You win
two of those, so you're six and three. So that
step is we got the right quarterback, we won the
games we should win, and then you look at the Yeah,
the final eight games, it's a lot of At Detroit,
(35:49):
at Minnesota, at Green Bay, at San Francisco, you're not
going to breeze through those. If you could go five
hundred tick or tape parade. Well, my take on Chicago
is it's steps quarterback's right O line probably needs another stud.
Receivers are nice. Eber Flus is very good on the
(36:10):
defensive side. It's like Houston last year. Houston got everything right.
They get the coach right, Houston got the quarterback right.
They had a great left tackle, they hit on some
draft picks. You're like, oh, Houston, but you didn't think
they were a super Bowl team. Now this year with Houston,
they had Joe Mixon, they had another draft picker too.
You're like, really like Houston. And you see how bumpy
(36:34):
it's been for Houston. You see him get blown out
at Minnesota early. You see him lose his past weekend. Oh,
because Houston now had to play the NFC North. It's
pretty hard to go to Green Bay and win, pretty
hard to go to Minnesota and win. You notice that.
So Houston is probably going to be ahead of Chicago
because the division's easier. But this year Houston gets a
bad draw. Oh they got to play in Bear's division. Yeah,
(36:58):
it's not I would. Here's the thing. It takes steps,
and those steps are oh as quicker if you're in
a bad division. The problem with the Bears is they're
now moving in a month into the schlog of the
best division with a lot of acts. So it's go
get bumpy, and if you could do five hundred, if
(37:18):
you can come out of this next three grad stretch
with six wins, and then you could get three more.
Now you laugh, but three more can you split with Detroit,
can you split with Green Bay? I'm not joking here.
That's a big ask because you're not as good as
those teams. I mean, let's be honest about it. Detroit's
got a better roster and right now better quarterback. Minnesota
(37:40):
has a better coach and a better receiving group. Believe
it or not, they do justin Jefferson and Green Bay's
got a better coach, a better organization, deeper wide receiver corps,
maybe younger, but deeper, better O line probably, So those
two in San Francisco's just got better players. So it is.
It's it's gonna get real cold. Chicago always gets cold
(38:04):
in about two weeks. It's gonna get real cold here
in about three weeks. Is that that, you know? The
wind off the lake called at Detroit, at Green Bay,
at Minnesota, at San Francisco. Take a deep breath. This
is very much Houston in a tougher division. It's Detroit.
Detroit's done virtually everything right. Brad Holmes a great GM.
(38:27):
And by the way, Detroit and Chicago do not have
great owners. And they got the coach right, the GM right,
the quarterback right, the offensive tackles right. And here in
year four, we finally look at Detroit and go I'd
be disappointed if they didn't get to the NFC Championship.
And they've done everything right by the way Houston week
(38:49):
owners coach right, quarterback right, oh, c right, left, tackle right,
acquisition's right, and they feel like in year two they're
a little less insistent than we were hoping for.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
The only thing I would disagree on is if you're
the Bears, do not look ahead to Detroit.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
Forget about green Bay. What do we got this week?
Speaker 6 (39:09):
We got Washington And within the last ten minutes they
just announced Jayden Daniels is not practicing today.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
We'll see if he can go Friday.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
And then Ian Rapaport NFL network, who we know is
kind of plugged in, says it's trending toward Mariota starting
this weekend. Well, now you get the Bears against the Commanders,
you gotta win this game. Go to get the five
and two beating a backup quarterback, and then the rest
sort itself out.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Well, even if they go seven and two, what's gonna happen.
People in Chicago are going to go happy days are
here again. At Detroit, at many at green Bay, well, Let's.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Get seven and two. Let's get the seven and two calory.
Come on, I like the Bears this.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Side just six and three I would take today if
you gave me an OP six. Oh, I take six,
and Arizona.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
Fans will take six and three at a heartbeat.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Not Chiefs fans that's not good enough, but Jets fan
Speaker 1 (39:57):
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