March 20, 2025 • 43 mins
Doug Gottlieb fills in for Colin to start off the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament and why the upsets we'll see this year will be more shocking than ever
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boo mod Up America.
Doug Gottlieb in for Colin. This is the Herd. Wherever
you may be and however you may be making a
part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb
and we can all get together and re get ready
for the NCAA Tournament. It's a weird one for me.
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Some of you may know I'm actually a head basketball
coach at Green Bay. What you may not know is
this is the first NCAA tournament in twenty three years.
And then I'm not covering for I was ESPN for nine.
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I was worked there for ten but nine covering the tournament,
and then CBS for five and then since then the
last seven years it was Fox but also Westwood One.
You know I was at CBS's selection Sunday Final four,
et cetera. And calling games the first weekend, and uh,
you know, I've been west with Westwood one as their
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studio host and going all the way to the Final
four and now again none to do except talk to you.
So I'm gonna bore the hell out. No, I'm kidding,
We're gonna break down your back. It's tell you about
the twelve five upsets.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And you know, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta you
listen if you subscribe to my service. Okay, you subscribe
to my service, listen, I got I got four gold
Luck picks.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, gold Luck picks.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I just it's interesting, and you know I as a kid,
I watched it. My dad got me out of school, right,
whether it was Jordan Elementary, Levita Elementary. Wait, there's more,
McPherson middle School, Junior High School, Santiago Middle School, you'reba
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middle school, that's right, three middle schools, and then Tustin
High School. My dad would come get me out of
school and we'd go down to we go down to
a sports bar in Costa Mesa and watch all the games.
I think one time we went to Silky Sullivan's that
that was in Fountain Valley. I don't know if that
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still exists anyway from there, and we would go to
the final four. And then even when I played Notre
Dame and we were bad my first year, we still
went to the final four. That was it. In East Rutherford,
New Jersey. My year at Golden West College where I
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didn't play, where I technically red shirted, I watched my
childhood best friend Miles Simon went a national championship in Indianapolis,
and then played in it three times at Oklahoma State,
and then covered it really after I got done playing overseas,
you know, in two years where was overseas during the tournament,
actually three when I was overseas during the tournament. And
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since then I've been back in and I will tell
you more motivated than ever to have the full circle right.
Watched it, loved it, played in it, covered it TV
and radio, on the floor of the final four in
the national championship game, and now I want to coach
in it, but it can't. We weren't good enough and
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we got to build it and build it right. So
you're stuck with me. But what I do think is
fascinating is how how much has changed in the landscape
of the sport. Some of it still remains the same.
They're still the Cinderella stories. And when we think of
stories of our past, it's interesting there's some of the
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greatest games or potential upsets or whatever weren't actually upsets,
didn't actually happen, like Princeton Georgetown. Georgetown still won the game.
Georgetown won the game. And then of course we started
to see more and more upsets throughout our childhood into
our adulthood, and what I thought would never happen, I
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truly believed in covering it. You would never see a
sixteen be to one. And the logic behind it was this.
When they started the field of sixty four, there were like,
I don't think there were two hundred Division one teams.
Now there are three hundred and sixty four. Three hundred
and sixty four. So if the top are the top four,
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and they used to be competing against two hundred to
twenty five to thirty and now they're competing against three hundred,
one would think the disparity was even greater. But as
luck would have it, an injury happened with DeAndrea Hunter
at Virginia and an upset of all upsets took place
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with UNBC and then I thought, well, we'll never have
that again.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Lead but.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Amateurism is gone. I don't want to call this professional
basketball because though I get paid a salary to coach
my team, to run my program, uh, to make sure
my kids go to class, you know, graduate are academically ineligible,
stay out of trouble, run practice, manage a whole basketball program.
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And look, college basketball players do receive compensation above that
of a scholarship, above that of a grant aid. Let's kid,
Let's not kid ourselves. This is not professional, right. If
it was professional, you wouldn't believe the stories that take
place don't happen in a professional world. You also don't
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get a chance to just leave one job with a
contract and not have a buyout and not have a
non compete clause going from job to job to job
to job to job. So it's a mix of what
we used to have, mix in education which does get
pushed to the wayside by so many people. And then
you kind of more professional basketball and AAU basketball and
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there you go. But here's what I wish would happen.
It's not going to happen. But like Wafford takes on Tennessee,
Wafford takes on Tennessee, and there's some unique things that
college basketball people know that I'm going to teach you
here before the games tip off. I had a college
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basketball coach before I took the job. Tell me, like, hey, ever,
notice handshake lines are a lot longer than they used
to be. Well, what's that mean?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You know when Omaha takes on Saint John's and Omaha's
best player goes for twenty five and ten and they
lose and he shakes hands with Rick Patino or one
of the assistant coaches, they go, set your mom over there. Hey, hey, hey, hey, mom,
how are you How are you right? It doesn't mean
there's poaching actually taking place, but it doesn't mean that
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it's not taking place right Like literally mid major teams
playing against high major teams. It's an active tryout. I
kid you not. But what I'd love to have happen
is when Wafford takes on Tennessee, them to flash up
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the sum total of these salaries of the players of
each team. That would be amazing. Tennessee's coach by Rick Barnes.
He's a friend. I think Rick's a great dude. Were
he coached at Texas when I was in college and
I had heard he was a great dude, and he's
even better than that. I do expect them to win
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this game. And Wofford has a big guy who shoots
the ball underhanded, which if you watch me play in college,
people did encourage me to try. So I'm always fascinated
by it. But what I would love is if it
comes down the stretch and they're under four minutes and
say Spirodidas is calling the game Tennessee with a four
point two million dollars payroll, take it on Wafford with
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one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars payroll. It would
make you it. You want to talk about David and Goliath,
that's what you have. It's like equal punishments, right, if
you're bad, it's hard to raise money to get players
to get good. And even on bad teams, guys that
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go and put up their numbers, well, they go and
they want to go somewhere else and fool somewhere else
and go get and go get paid. And if you're
good at the mid major level, you're gonna lose all
your players because people are like, man, they're good, let's
take them that's how it actually works. Nonetheless, we still
have a bracket and now the actual bracket games begin.
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But I do think that, and I said this on
my show, and I said it just you know, I
believe in congruent arguments. I thought the mistake of the
College Football Playoff Committee was balanced out by the NCAA
Basketball Committee. What do I mean by that? It doesn't
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mean that every team that spent money is better than
teams that don't spend money. Doesn't mean that, But the
SEC has spent a whole hell of a lot more
money than everybody else. And it's not just with the players,
with the facilities, with the support staff, with the head coaches.
It's all of it, all of it. And so it's
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not just about your specific team, but their path to
success and their path to a record. Right. The flaw
in the argument for SMU, which spent a bunch of
money to get into the ACC and then to field
their team, or Indiana that spent a ton of money
and had a solvet schedule but beat up on the
Big Ten is not to say, hey, well we spent
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money and look, you know we got this huge payroll.
You know, Indiana was like a fifteen million dollar payroll,
which was a big, big amount. The difference is in
the SEC and both football and basketball. Every team you play,
every team you play in basketball has a two to
four five million dollar payroll, whereas when you're in the ACC,
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for example, they have teams with three and four million
dollar payrolls, but they have teams that are about a
million and there is there's just a difference. And when
you have when you have a payroll that's a million
dollars or whatever, and you go all in on one
or two players and all of a sudden, one of
those guys gets hurt, or one of those guys isn't
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as good as the billing, or maybe hasn't been able
to level up to the ACC. Now, all of a sudden,
you don't have the depth to contend on a daily
basis in your conference, even though you're better than most
of the other teams, because again you have a million
dollar payroll. But making sense, so, I look, I still
love the tournament. I grew up watching it. I can
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quote chapter and verse all of the different upsets. The
moment that changed my existence as a basketball player wanted
to do. It happened about thirty minutes or I'm broadcasting
from Doug Gottliebin for Colin. This is heard on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. We're broadcasting from Sherman Oaks, California,
at Long Beach, Aarina, where my dad for three years
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was an assistant coach under the great Tech Winner at
Long Beach Charina in was it nineteen ninety he was
nineteen ninety, might have been ninety one. The first game
after Hank Gathers had passed away, loy La Marrimount took
on New Mexico State, and I'll never forget it. You know,
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I'd watched the semi finals when Hank went down. I
had known both of those guys from a the Pump
basketball camp where I was a camper, and those guys
played pickup ball at Sea Sun cal State Northridge, where
we stayed at night, and they were godlike figures. And
when Hank died, just it was soul crushing to somebody
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who idolized him and thought, I mean, he'd looked like
a Greek god. I watched them play, and they came
out in there and everything was adorned in maroon uniforms
with forty four's everywhere and when I saw Bo Kimball
dribble three times with his right hand and switch it
and shoot to his left hand, took hop his fallen
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friend and teammate, who kind of like the kid from Wafford,
switched to shooting free throws left handed because he was
so bad at shooting them right handed. And then he
made the free throw and there wasn't a dry eye
in the place. I was like, this is what I
want to do. I want to play in it, I
want to cover it. I want to coach it so
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that emotion still exists. But let's not kid ourselves. We're
in a weird place where like literally Tennessee has forty
would I would I would guess at minimum thirty times
greater salaries than that of Wafford tonight thirty times. I'll
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check my math during the break, That's what I'll do.
But I think I got that right. I may have
over exaggerated, but I think I got it right.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
If you're somewhere like four million dollars and they're somewhere
in the you know, one hundred and fifty, he eat
at two hundred, what is that ratio? You guys work
that out? Coming up next in the Herd. John Fanta
is gonna join us if you if you love college basketball,
John is everywhere. He does play by play, he does reporting,
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he does sideline. The madness is about to tip off.
I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him what's one upset he
sees happening today? That's next. I'm Doug Gotlive. This is
the Herd.
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Speaker 2 (14:35):
How would you Doug Gottliebin for coming the Herd on
Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio app. Watching Creighton the Blue Jays
take on louv You do know that it's Louisville, which
is weird, right because when you go to Louisville, they
say welcome to Louisville, but everything is the vill wouldn't
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be the vul if they pronounce it oovl. I'm very
very confused. I don't know anyway. They're taking on Creighton.
This is it's in Lexington. One of the things that
people make a big deal of is where the game
is played. Oh my gosh, home court advantage, Yeah, I
mean last night, Xavier was playing in Dayton, which is
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forty five minutes from campus. A little bit different in
terms of I thought that was a legitimate home court
advantage in their comeback win over Texas. But playing again
on your art travels home floor against Creighton, that travels
well at Lake at noon. It's not that big. What
do the kids say, It's not that deep. It's not
that deep. By the way, I've been hanging out my
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son here for the last couple of days. I'm telling
you my vernacular is getting way better, way way better.
Nothing more hip than when your son's sixteen. Happy birthday
to my son. Hey, scottlieb Let's welcome in. John Fanta
Fox Sports Radio, a Fox Sports college basketball reporter. He
does by play. You'll see him on the field of
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sixty eight. If you follow college basketball, you know about
that podcast, which also you can view online. UH and
he joins us now as the NCAA tournament kicks off. Jentle,
me let me ask you about last night. You know
you covered the Big East a Ton for Fox and
UH and Xavier had a huge comeback win against Texas.
And there's there's several reports that Rodney Terry will be
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let go and additional reports that Sean Miller will be
the next head coach of Texas. What what what have
you heard in regards to the Texas situation?
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Well, what we know and doud great to be with
you on what is a holiday is that is that
Chris del Conzie was very interested in Sean Miller the
last time he was trying to hire a head coach.
But Texas beat Xavier in the Henca Turno, which was
quite ironic in the sweet sixteen. So then you weren't
going to to not keep Rodney Terry as head coach.
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Rodney had done his part to to keep that job
and it felt like, you know, on the natural right move.
But now there's an irony to these two paths crossing again.
But Terry has not gotten Texas to a level that
they believe they should be at, which I got to say, Doug,
for the last fifteen years, Texas has been not achieving
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the level that they want to achieve in any sport
because at Texas they aspire at a football school to
win national championships and everything. Well, to me, that's a
you problem Texas.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
More.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
You keep selecting these head coaches, some of which are
have been good. Honestly. Now, the Chris Beer thing ended
the way that it did for off the court reasons.
But like you know, Shaka Smart's found a proper home
for himself in Marquette. There's a larger picture discussion. The
point is, yes, Chris doug Conte, if this search opens up,
which I think it will, Sean Miller's number one on
his list. Then it comes down to Sewan making a decision.
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You know, he built a house in Cincinnati, so you know,
as you know, to build a house, you could sell
it and you take the Texas job and you get
a ton of nil. And if if that's what you want,
and if that's what you're looking to do in your
in your career and go to the Southeastern Conference, then
that's that's what he's going to get. And he's one
of the best. He's one of the better coaches in
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the sports. I'd say he's a top fifteen coach in
college top fifteen to twenty coach at college basketball. Uh
if not, you know, cop ten to twelve. He's that good.
You know, we'll see, we'll see if if Xavier giving
him a chance and a new lease on life, if
that plays a part at all. It's not that the
Musketeers don't have money. They'll put up a lot of
money to try to keep them. They just don't have
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Texas money.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah. No, I mean it's interesting because little backstory John
Fanton joining us here. I'm Doug Golibin for Collins the Herd.
You go back to his fourth year at Xavier. Fourth
year at Xavier, and uh, the Oklahoma State job was open,
and uh, Mike Holder, the then ad at Oklahoma State,
asked me to reach out to Sean or At first
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he asked me, like, who is hired? And I was like, man,
I'd hire Sean Miller. So I called Sean and Sean said,
at the time, hey, listen, Xavier gave me a chance
when and this is the first time round. Xavier gave
me a chance when nobody else would. So I'm going
to stay here for five years. If you look at
my contract, the buyout goes way down after my fifth year.
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That's I told them I would stay at least five years.
And so there was definitely loyalty there. I know it's
a business where so many people think there's no sort
of loyalty, but Sean does have some and the fact
that Sean got fired in Arizona and Xavier didn't think
twice and brought him back. I think shows again their
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mutual loyalty.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
But well, you know what else it has. Douga no strust,
He's no streuss at Xavior none. You're never going to
be under pressure. Like, yeah, they have standards, Yes, they
want to make the Sweet sixteen. The program's never made
a Final four. If he ever got close to that'd
be you know, he already is a is a Xavier
great for his multiple stints at the job. You go
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to Texas, Doug, you know what it is. You're gonna win,
You're gonna you're gonna contend for Final four, You're gonna
go deep in the tournament. You know, you go two
years there and you haven't done that. Well, he answers
year three. You know there's pressure on now there's Texas
is an unrelenting pressure pack job. Uh, if you're at
the football program, if you're at the basketball program. So
if he wants that, then then they're gonna and they're
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gonna back up the Brins truck. And that's that's why
you make the move. But you know, this is a
guy who You're right, he is loyal. I know how
much pride he has to like to be in the
Big East and go to New York City for the
for the conference tournament, and Doug, you know this, well,
that's not just some other event like he he enjoys
being a part of that whole equation and only he
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can think and fathom what he ultimately wants to do.
So but there's no question he's at the top of
Texas's list.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Doug Gollivan for Collins to hurt Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio
app of course you have John Fanta joining us. He's
a Fox Sports Radio kind of every Fox Sports kind
of everything college basketball, right, just kind of immersed himself
in it. Great play by play guy, and of course
he does some college basketball reporting as well as work
with Field of sixty eight. What did you think of
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of Gary Debrees? And he takes the Indiana job and
during his press conference he was like, look, they were
really respectful of my season, coming to you know, my
season and wait until it concluded. So it feels like
this would had been done for a bit. Did that
surprise you in any way?
Speaker 6 (21:45):
It actually really surprised me because I can't tell you.
How many times I've heard, you know, an agent say, well,
there's something to be said about going two years or
three years before you take.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Next next job.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Now, Indiana is an exception, right, it's not to me
in twenty twenty five. You know you've had to achieve
major success in the last decade of fifteen years. I
don't put Indiana in blue blood Tier A. I really
do not. What not tier A?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Come on, bro, no man, Well, hold on, fantastic. Here,
here's here's your issue. Here's your issue. Well on, here's
your issue, John, here's your issue. Okay, you're kind of timeless,
so people will be surprised. How old are you?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I'm twenty nine. That's why Duke No, it's Duke Kansas, Kentucky,
Carolina or in Tierra Indiana is not in the same class.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Well again, so you're talking the super high major elite.
Most people would put UCLA in that. Some people think
not right, I mean, because they have more titles than
anybody else.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
If you want to put Tier B, that's that's fine.
But like if we're teering this.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
The different the difference is, if you like, listen again,
I'm becoming an old man, right, I'm becoming old man.
I am not yet. There's not a five next to
my name just yet. Soon but not yet. But uh,
when I mean it's Indiana, I mean it is. It
is still India. It's you know what it is. It's
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Alabama football before they got Saban, Alabama football before they
got Saban. And there will be a guy that will
wake that place up. And whoever that guy is, if
it's Darian like great, uh, but somebody will wake that
place up anyway, go ahead, I apologize. I apologize because
I've heard that sentiment from other people.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
But go ahead, No, I hear you. When you've made
two Final four since nineteen eighty seven, it's and the bar.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean then we then we had to put you.
We have to put Yukon in in any territory as well.
Right like you're twenty, you didn't list Yukon. Yukon's won
what five national titles, worked with three different coaches.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Connecticut is more so than Indiana. Connecticut would be in
the packing order with what they have done with six
and twenty five years is absolutely absurd. They're right, They're
right there, They're ahead. If I were to okay, needless
to say, I was surprised because you're in your first
year on the job. I thought, you know, Darren was
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a really good hire for West Virginia.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I love the hire.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
They're off to a really nice start. You know, there
are people are jarred by this, and they frankly they
should be. I mean, I don't blame Darren for taking
this job because I think, like you said, if he
gets it back, that that place is that fan base,
that brand, how they move the needle on television speaks
for itself. It's next level. But it did surprise me
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to hear just how transparent and how open it was
that he had been engaging in conversations in his first
year at another high major, big twelve job.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah. Yeah, no, it's it's it's nutty. It's really really nutty.
It is who gets Iowa.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Well, you know, I I think Ben McCollum is it
would be there is at the top of their list.
I also think there's a chance Ben. I know Ben's
got the roots and whatnot. I know he's obviously done
a great job of Drake, but but I almost think
not the flight Iowa here.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
No, come on, man, you're from Iowa, Okay, and you're
Obviously he's going to bring Ben starts with him, who's
the star point guard. If you haven't seen him, he's fabulous.
We played against them, He's awesome, right Like, No.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
I think it makes I think it makes a lot
of sense for both sides. It's gonna be him. My
only point would be I think he's an absolute superstar
and could get an even bigger jobs. It's a great
win for Iowa. Oh well, I think it's a great
win FORBAB. Like if I were if I were Villanova,
I'd be calling Ben McCollum.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I don't think. I'm not sure it works there, but
it's it's it is. What is what is going on
with Villanova? There was so much talker Chris Collins. There
are season's done Nova, season's done, But Chris Collins is
not the head coach. So what's going on in Nova?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Well?
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Porter Moser is the number one name right now. And
obviously Porter took like all the Chicago to the final four,
and you know now at Oklahoma he's got Connecticut tomorrow night,
which is kind of an interesting backdrop considering he's going
up against the big East school. But I Jay Wright
is you know, he's still an active member of things
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that Villanova does. Of course he's going to be. And
Eric Rodell, the new athletic director, comes over from Oregon,
and Eric, you know, I think the way that they're
looking at this is you can go one of two ways.
You get somebody on the rise. But there's not a
ton of those guys right now in the cycle on
this crazy carousel. You also know, Doug the next two days,
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a coaching hero could be born. That's that's why the
madness is so amazing. It could change somebody's life and
front of our eyes. But I think that they're looking
at a veteran like the Collins the Moser discourse. You know,
the the name that was outside the box was if
if Mick Cronin ever didn't pan out at UCLA. But
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I think Nick's going to be at UCLA. Some of
the negativity of January and some of the discourse coming
out of there was a little bit eye opening. But
I don't think he's going anywhere. I think, you know,
I think they're in a place where it's down to Moser.
It's down. I mean, Collins is still in the race,
I suppose, And don't sleep on Richard Patino you know,
I think that Rick Rick is going to try his
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best if Ryan Odam's not at Virginia, which Ryan Odams
is going to be at Virginia. My humble opinions, if
he weren't at Virginia would have been a slam dunk
for Villanova to hire him. Watch out for Richard.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, you know. The one thing is, you know, if
you're at the best job in the league, don't leave
unless it's at the best job in the league, right
Porter Moser would leave because they don't have the money
at Oklahoma for basketball that everybody else does, whereas Nova
does have the money. But for Richard Bertino, they have
the most money in their league. And that's a very powerful,
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powerful feeling. John Fanton is our guest. I'm Doug Golighban
for Collins. I heard Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app. Okay,
who's going down? All right? Everywhere you go? I know
everybody wants an upset. Uh give me your upset. I
got friends texting me all the time, like I need
I need your upset picks. Like dude, I'm if it's
a Horizon League or mid major, like I can tell
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you everything about them. I can tell you a lot
about UC San Diego because we studied them a bunch.
But who do you think is most likely to pull
off the upset in the next two days.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Well, I think that there's a guaranteed double to just
seed winning in the South. In fact, I'll go with
multiple double digit seats. I think you see San Diego
will beat Michigan. I never trust the team coming off
the Big Ten Tournament championship. There's a history of this.
And then about to learn more about the player you
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already know, Ane Wha kh Jones kid averages twenty a game.
He is a stud, but he goes beyond them, Doug.
They've got Hayden Gray, who's an elite defender. You know,
they get up in you defensively and really guard that.
They're so balanced on the other end of the floor.
And I just think Michigan's turnover problems. You see San
Diego's at the top of the charts in turnover margin.
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I think it's a problem matchup there. I also really
like James Jones and his Yale team. Again, you know
they pulled it off last year over Auburn. I know
A and M can muck it up and can really
make it a battle. But I think that's going to
be a game, and I think John Pulakidis, who is
a stud for Yale, I think the Bulldogs are going
to be in it. I have Carolina beating All miss
that's not the trendy Cinderella upset, but I could see Lipscomb.
(29:47):
Watch out for Lipscomb. They got a kid named Jacob
Agna Savitch that's averaging over twenty per game. And if
you look at the Bisons and the style that they play,
I think it could give Iowa States some problems.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Gotta you have Iowa stayed. Also, I always State also
does another point guard?
Speaker 6 (30:04):
You know they don't, And that's the big reason why
is that Lipscomb has a top seventy five offense. I
always State doesn't have key Sean Gilbert. So you know
that's something that I'm keeping an eye on. If Liberty
were playing anyone other than Oregan, I would probably have
taken Richie McKay's team, But I Doug. I respect Dana
Altman way too much. I'm heading over to the arena
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after after we talked for Purdue and high Point, and
I think Allan Huff could give Purdue a run for
their money. This afternoon.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, and by the way, high Point, they don't have
Purdue money, but they actually have a lot of a
lot of money. And so it's a town to roster
and Augna Savitch is from Sheboygan. So don't don't don't
start me with Wisconsin kids that are somewhere else that
everybody help My Donor's like, hey, why don't you have him?
I wasn't there, I wasn't here. I can't recruit guys
(30:57):
that I would five years ago. When I last three
is when I wasn't here. Anyway, Fanta, I'll love catching
up on radio. Can't wait to do it in person,
hopefully at the final four. Thanks so much for being
our guest.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
You know, Doug, I hope you're not tight up against
the break zone, but I do want to say this
to you. I respect the heck out of you for
doing what you've done and taken the Green Bay job.
And I also think it's really cool some of the
things that you just did in year one, whether it
be engaging with fans you know, your fan base, your community,
(31:33):
and getting your kids to kind of see the bigger picture.
I could tell that you're showing them the bigger picture.
Of life, and I know it's hard to tell. And
if I went on the sidelines, I don't even want
to picture that because we wouldn't be any good.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
And so.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
I'm rooting for you, man, and know that you've got
a fan and me and I think a lot of
us because we want to see this pan out. And
I give you a lot of credit because I know
it wasn't the easiest of your ones. But I could
tell your kids never stopped compete, and that's what life's about.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
No, I appreciate it they did. They fought hard for us.
And just just know November three, we're opening at Northwestern.
I believe that'll be available either Big ten Network or
FS one. Would love to have you on the call.
You you can do it out with Revsen, you know,
Revers right down the street, one of one of you.
Two got a couple, got a couple of potential. We're
(32:22):
we're talking with the Butler Bulldogs about playing in Hinkle.
I alays want to coach Hinkle as well.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Boy, I'm just imagining Dave Revson and with boxing gloves
that that kind of was funny to think about it
exactly all right?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
See if John John fan choice let's get to uh
Ryan No, when I do rhyme music with the news,
We're doing rye music with the news next. Okay, did
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Speaker 2 (33:50):
It's the Heart. Doug Olivin for herd. NCAA tournament underway,
the Blue Jays and the Cardinals, right, the Cardinals. I
love the nickname thing. I love the nicknames. I'll be
honest with you, what I don't know High Points nickname.
I'm gonna have to find that one out there. They're
pretty good. Uh, Creighton is beating Louisville twenty eight twenty one.
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That one I do have in my bracket. Pat Kelsey's
done a great job. But I think that's kind of
a lame nickname there from high Point No offense to
the high Point Panthers. But you gotta have a better
nickname than that, don't you. Panthers? What was Ti?
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Well?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
All the Tiger's taken and Bulldogs right like, I'm just
you're mailing it in if you go if you go Tigers,
Panthers or Bulldogs any others Tigers, Panthers, Bulldogs, I think
you're kind of mailing it in. In terms of nicknames,
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there's no list of new nicknames. Sectimicus, you know. Oh,
hold on Tigers, Tigers. Oh it's gold jar Gold anyway,
high Points up eight five on Purdue, I will say that.
Like again, I think Alan huss who's it, does a
fantastic job. He's another former Creton assistant. But a Purdue
(35:16):
to lose again early, Like, yes, I don't. I know
they got the National Championship game last year, but like,
but it's hard anyway, Well, let's talk some Lakers. We
got a little football news. Let's get to rhyme music
with the news.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
No, no, no, this is the herd Line News.
Speaker 9 (35:38):
Doug, good morning, Good to be here with you.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
As you pointed out high Point perdue early in the
first half, tight one.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Have you ever seen high Points campus?
Speaker 9 (35:47):
I have not, to be honest, I'm not sure I
know where high Point is.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
High Points in North Carolina. It is nice, Okay, It's
it's like a it's like a entry club.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
No, I'm serious. Like Google, people will Google like what
you can go to school there, like yeah, yeah, it's
crazy crazy nice.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
Wow. And in the other game, we have Creighton Louisville.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I was there last year. I called the tournament champions IHP.
They'd lost at home, so I called Longwood won it Longwood.
Noother really nice campus.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
But oh yeah, very nice, very nice.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I would is very long, long one. But high point
is the campus is crazy nice.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Twenty eight twenty one, about seven minutes into the first
half with nine seed Creyton taking on eight seed Louisville.
All right, here we go. Let's turn our attention from
college basketball. It's a pro basketball. We had some history
in the NBA last night in the most unexpected way,
maybe from the most unexpected place. Thirty four points in
(36:53):
only nineteen minutes from Sandrew Mamu kaylash Bealey. That's right
of the Spurs with your player comes off the bench,
caught fire like nobody ever has in the history of
the league. I will repeat that he scored thirty four points,
going thirteen to fourteen from the field, seven to seven
from three, and only played nineteen minutes. First player in
(37:16):
league history to score thirty four points in under twenty
minutes played.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's a heater, Doug, that is a heater. Vinnie Johnson's
somewhere sitting up going like, that's the real microwave. Instead
of the microwave, he can be the the air fire. Yeah, seriously,
the airfire. Wow, just a quick update. My airfire skills
are amazing. Airfire skills are amazing, amazing, amazing. So what
does that entail? I mean, I can make all the
(37:41):
like fried chicken, fried the fish, whatever, but like against airfire,
sits to oil. And then what I really do is
there's a company Malot meets and I have like a
freezer full of like you know, I'm a big hangar
steak guy. Okay, I can take a frozen hangar steak
salted up, put it in there eighteen minutes later, perfection.
(38:04):
Huh interesting, I'm telling you, I'm I'm all. My team
wasn't any good, but my air frier skills elite.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
If Okay, I'm gonna go back to the fried chicken. Now,
are you just calling it fried chicken because you've put
it in the air fryer or are we actually breading it? No?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
You read it? Okay, yeah, you read it. Are does
anyone on earth not like fried chicken?
Speaker 9 (38:26):
I'm not sure it's possible. It's right.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
The only thing you don't like about fried chicken is
it's cooked in oil.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I'm pretty sure the government puts you on a specific
list if you say you don't like fried chicken, because
there are some suspicious things.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Going on in correct. Okay, So as somebody who loves
fried chicken, it used to make fried chicken. Then I
was like, that's really not good for you, even when
you try and do the olive oil, which you know
when olive oil gets hot, wast your time. Anyway. Uh yeah,
bread it up. You know, I got I have, I
got the whole thing going, all right. I know how
to do the whole mixture. Double dip that sucker. Throw
(38:59):
in the air fry again, Crispy Brown. I mean the
Colonel Sanders actually knocked on my doors like I smelled chicken.
It was really good, like your recipe. I need it,
all right, I'll buy it.
Speaker 9 (39:12):
I'll buy it.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
First team, all air fire, first team, all airfire.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Well done, well done, Doug, all right, sticking in the
NBA here, big sale, that's right, the Boston Celtics. The
Grossbeck family has sold the Boston Celtics at evaluation of
six point one billion dollars.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
The reigning NBA champs have been sold to Bill Chisholm,
a managing partner of Symphony Technology Group, is buying the
Boston Celtics.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So a tech guy bought it.
Speaker 9 (39:45):
Tech guy bought it.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Largest sale of a sport in North America, sports franchise
in North America.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Nerds continue to run the earth undefeated this point when
imagining came home, Honey, I picked some of the store.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Would you pick up Celtics NBA franchise?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
How much? Six point one billion? What? Why? When we
were kids? You're not that old, right, those of us
who are old enough, like everything was be a doctor
or a lawyer, right, Yeah, that's who makes the money.
Now it's tech or finance. Definitely tech or finance. So
the grossbeck didn't they buy it for like three hundred
and something million?
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah, it's two thousand and two. Bought for three hundred
and sixty million, sold it for six point one Yeah
that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
That's not bad.
Speaker 9 (40:27):
Pretty good.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
ROI I like that.
Speaker 9 (40:29):
Pretty good.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
ROI, I personally would feel pretty good about that if
that were me. Uh, I think I think so?
Speaker 9 (40:35):
All right?
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You make a billion dollars, what do you do?
Speaker 9 (40:38):
Mm, buy an island? Probably just like that's what Larry
Ellison did. He did.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
He was just like about an island of Hawaii. Yeah,
this is my an island. It was like he was like, oh,
I'm gonna buy that little island. He bought one of
the Hawaiian islands, right like per of that. I don't know,
I don't know what the going heals LINI right.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yes, I'm not sure what the going right an island
is these days, but I think if I got a billion,
I could probably figure out how to get one.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Colin went like Colin went ranch, right, he went ranch, definitely,
because when I think of Colin, I think ranch.
Speaker 9 (41:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Look I don't have I got nothing against a ranch,
but I'm yeah, give me, give me the water, give
me the ocean. I don't need I'll go I'll go
pet a horse, but I don't need to like take
care of them.
Speaker 9 (41:29):
It sounds like a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
There are a lot of work. There are also a
lot of money, yes, trust me, Yeah, that's right. Of
music with the news.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Gallib In for Colin. This is the Herd. Okay, Creighton
continuously thirty one twenty five and high Point is up
eleven to nine on Perdue. It is also interesting that
like schools like Purdue who went to the national championship
game last year, like last year, they literally went to
the national championship game, but we still hold it against
(42:04):
them the early tournament exits of the past. I mean,
I guess rightfully, So right, you lose to Saint Peter's
as a as a one seed. It's interesting that you
would think there's a recency bias, which, hey, here's the
national runner up. They got their back court back. You know,
they have an all American inside as well, and yet
(42:26):
just us as sports fans, all we can think of
is and then the team lost to Saint Peter's, the
team that loves Saint Peter's, and once upon a time
they lost to Arkansas Little Rock as well in the
first round the tournament. All right, coming up next here
in the Herd, we know what Aaron Rodgers is going
to do this weekend, right, Like, you know the expression
(42:48):
that tracks what Aaron Rodgers is doing and will do
this weekend tracks. I'll prove it to you next time.
Doug Gottlieb, this is the herd
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boo mod Up America.
Doug Gottlieb in for Colin. This is the Herd. Wherever
you may be and however you may be making a
part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb
and we can all get together and re get ready
for the NCAA Tournament. It's a weird one for me.
(00:47):
Some of you may know I'm actually a head basketball
coach at Green Bay. What you may not know is
this is the first NCAA tournament in twenty three years.
And then I'm not covering for I was ESPN for nine.
(01:09):
I was worked there for ten but nine covering the tournament,
and then CBS for five and then since then the
last seven years it was Fox but also Westwood One.
You know I was at CBS's selection Sunday Final four,
et cetera. And calling games the first weekend, and uh,
you know, I've been west with Westwood one as their
(01:30):
studio host and going all the way to the Final
four and now again none to do except talk to you.
So I'm gonna bore the hell out. No, I'm kidding,
We're gonna break down your back. It's tell you about
the twelve five upsets.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And you know, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta you
listen if you subscribe to my service. Okay, you subscribe
to my service, listen, I got I got four gold
Luck picks.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, gold Luck picks.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I just it's interesting, and you know I as a kid,
I watched it. My dad got me out of school, right,
whether it was Jordan Elementary, Levita Elementary. Wait, there's more,
McPherson middle School, Junior High School, Santiago Middle School, you'reba
(02:15):
middle school, that's right, three middle schools, and then Tustin
High School. My dad would come get me out of
school and we'd go down to we go down to
a sports bar in Costa Mesa and watch all the games.
I think one time we went to Silky Sullivan's that
that was in Fountain Valley. I don't know if that
(02:35):
still exists anyway from there, and we would go to
the final four. And then even when I played Notre
Dame and we were bad my first year, we still
went to the final four. That was it. In East Rutherford,
New Jersey. My year at Golden West College where I
(02:56):
didn't play, where I technically red shirted, I watched my
childhood best friend Miles Simon went a national championship in Indianapolis,
and then played in it three times at Oklahoma State,
and then covered it really after I got done playing overseas,
you know, in two years where was overseas during the tournament,
actually three when I was overseas during the tournament. And
(03:20):
since then I've been back in and I will tell
you more motivated than ever to have the full circle right.
Watched it, loved it, played in it, covered it TV
and radio, on the floor of the final four in
the national championship game, and now I want to coach
in it, but it can't. We weren't good enough and
(03:42):
we got to build it and build it right. So
you're stuck with me. But what I do think is
fascinating is how how much has changed in the landscape
of the sport. Some of it still remains the same.
They're still the Cinderella stories. And when we think of
stories of our past, it's interesting there's some of the
(04:07):
greatest games or potential upsets or whatever weren't actually upsets,
didn't actually happen, like Princeton Georgetown. Georgetown still won the game.
Georgetown won the game. And then of course we started
to see more and more upsets throughout our childhood into
our adulthood, and what I thought would never happen, I
(04:31):
truly believed in covering it. You would never see a
sixteen be to one. And the logic behind it was this.
When they started the field of sixty four, there were like,
I don't think there were two hundred Division one teams.
Now there are three hundred and sixty four. Three hundred
and sixty four. So if the top are the top four,
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and they used to be competing against two hundred to
twenty five to thirty and now they're competing against three hundred,
one would think the disparity was even greater. But as
luck would have it, an injury happened with DeAndrea Hunter
at Virginia and an upset of all upsets took place
(05:15):
with UNBC and then I thought, well, we'll never have
that again.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Lead but.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Amateurism is gone. I don't want to call this professional
basketball because though I get paid a salary to coach
my team, to run my program, uh, to make sure
my kids go to class, you know, graduate are academically ineligible,
stay out of trouble, run practice, manage a whole basketball program.
(05:49):
And look, college basketball players do receive compensation above that
of a scholarship, above that of a grant aid. Let's kid,
Let's not kid ourselves. This is not professional, right. If
it was professional, you wouldn't believe the stories that take
place don't happen in a professional world. You also don't
(06:11):
get a chance to just leave one job with a
contract and not have a buyout and not have a
non compete clause going from job to job to job
to job to job. So it's a mix of what
we used to have, mix in education which does get
pushed to the wayside by so many people. And then
you kind of more professional basketball and AAU basketball and
(06:34):
there you go. But here's what I wish would happen.
It's not going to happen. But like Wafford takes on Tennessee,
Wafford takes on Tennessee, and there's some unique things that
college basketball people know that I'm going to teach you
here before the games tip off. I had a college
(06:55):
basketball coach before I took the job. Tell me, like, hey, ever,
notice handshake lines are a lot longer than they used
to be. Well, what's that mean?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
You know when Omaha takes on Saint John's and Omaha's
best player goes for twenty five and ten and they
lose and he shakes hands with Rick Patino or one
of the assistant coaches, they go, set your mom over there. Hey, hey, hey, hey, mom,
how are you How are you right? It doesn't mean
there's poaching actually taking place, but it doesn't mean that
(07:27):
it's not taking place right Like literally mid major teams
playing against high major teams. It's an active tryout. I
kid you not. But what I'd love to have happen
is when Wafford takes on Tennessee, them to flash up
(07:47):
the sum total of these salaries of the players of
each team. That would be amazing. Tennessee's coach by Rick Barnes.
He's a friend. I think Rick's a great dude. Were
he coached at Texas when I was in college and
I had heard he was a great dude, and he's
even better than that. I do expect them to win
(08:08):
this game. And Wofford has a big guy who shoots
the ball underhanded, which if you watch me play in college,
people did encourage me to try. So I'm always fascinated
by it. But what I would love is if it
comes down the stretch and they're under four minutes and
say Spirodidas is calling the game Tennessee with a four
point two million dollars payroll, take it on Wafford with
(08:31):
one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars payroll. It would
make you it. You want to talk about David and Goliath,
that's what you have. It's like equal punishments, right, if
you're bad, it's hard to raise money to get players
to get good. And even on bad teams, guys that
(08:53):
go and put up their numbers, well, they go and
they want to go somewhere else and fool somewhere else
and go get and go get paid. And if you're
good at the mid major level, you're gonna lose all
your players because people are like, man, they're good, let's
take them that's how it actually works. Nonetheless, we still
have a bracket and now the actual bracket games begin.
(09:17):
But I do think that, and I said this on
my show, and I said it just you know, I
believe in congruent arguments. I thought the mistake of the
College Football Playoff Committee was balanced out by the NCAA
Basketball Committee. What do I mean by that? It doesn't
(09:37):
mean that every team that spent money is better than
teams that don't spend money. Doesn't mean that, But the
SEC has spent a whole hell of a lot more
money than everybody else. And it's not just with the players,
with the facilities, with the support staff, with the head coaches.
It's all of it, all of it. And so it's
(10:01):
not just about your specific team, but their path to
success and their path to a record. Right. The flaw
in the argument for SMU, which spent a bunch of
money to get into the ACC and then to field
their team, or Indiana that spent a ton of money
and had a solvet schedule but beat up on the
Big Ten is not to say, hey, well we spent
(10:24):
money and look, you know we got this huge payroll.
You know, Indiana was like a fifteen million dollar payroll,
which was a big, big amount. The difference is in
the SEC and both football and basketball. Every team you play,
every team you play in basketball has a two to
four five million dollar payroll, whereas when you're in the ACC,
(10:48):
for example, they have teams with three and four million
dollar payrolls, but they have teams that are about a
million and there is there's just a difference. And when
you have when you have a payroll that's a million
dollars or whatever, and you go all in on one
or two players and all of a sudden, one of
those guys gets hurt, or one of those guys isn't
(11:10):
as good as the billing, or maybe hasn't been able
to level up to the ACC. Now, all of a sudden,
you don't have the depth to contend on a daily
basis in your conference, even though you're better than most
of the other teams, because again you have a million
dollar payroll. But making sense, so, I look, I still
love the tournament. I grew up watching it. I can
(11:32):
quote chapter and verse all of the different upsets. The
moment that changed my existence as a basketball player wanted
to do. It happened about thirty minutes or I'm broadcasting
from Doug Gottliebin for Colin. This is heard on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. We're broadcasting from Sherman Oaks, California,
at Long Beach, Aarina, where my dad for three years
(11:55):
was an assistant coach under the great Tech Winner at
Long Beach Charina in was it nineteen ninety he was
nineteen ninety, might have been ninety one. The first game
after Hank Gathers had passed away, loy La Marrimount took
on New Mexico State, and I'll never forget it. You know,
(12:18):
I'd watched the semi finals when Hank went down. I
had known both of those guys from a the Pump
basketball camp where I was a camper, and those guys
played pickup ball at Sea Sun cal State Northridge, where
we stayed at night, and they were godlike figures. And
when Hank died, just it was soul crushing to somebody
(12:41):
who idolized him and thought, I mean, he'd looked like
a Greek god. I watched them play, and they came
out in there and everything was adorned in maroon uniforms
with forty four's everywhere and when I saw Bo Kimball
dribble three times with his right hand and switch it
and shoot to his left hand, took hop his fallen
(13:01):
friend and teammate, who kind of like the kid from Wafford,
switched to shooting free throws left handed because he was
so bad at shooting them right handed. And then he
made the free throw and there wasn't a dry eye
in the place. I was like, this is what I
want to do. I want to play in it, I
want to cover it. I want to coach it so
(13:22):
that emotion still exists. But let's not kid ourselves. We're
in a weird place where like literally Tennessee has forty
would I would I would guess at minimum thirty times
greater salaries than that of Wafford tonight thirty times. I'll
(13:47):
check my math during the break, That's what I'll do.
But I think I got that right. I may have
over exaggerated, but I think I got it right.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
If you're somewhere like four million dollars and they're somewhere
in the you know, one hundred and fifty, he eat
at two hundred, what is that ratio? You guys work
that out? Coming up next in the Herd. John Fanta
is gonna join us if you if you love college basketball,
John is everywhere. He does play by play, he does reporting,
(14:15):
he does sideline. The madness is about to tip off.
I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him what's one upset he
sees happening today? That's next. I'm Doug Gotlive. This is
the Herd.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
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Speaker 2 (14:35):
How would you Doug Gottliebin for coming the Herd on
Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio app. Watching Creighton the Blue Jays
take on louv You do know that it's Louisville, which
is weird, right because when you go to Louisville, they
say welcome to Louisville, but everything is the vill wouldn't
(14:59):
be the vul if they pronounce it oovl. I'm very
very confused. I don't know anyway. They're taking on Creighton.
This is it's in Lexington. One of the things that
people make a big deal of is where the game
is played. Oh my gosh, home court advantage, Yeah, I
mean last night, Xavier was playing in Dayton, which is
(15:19):
forty five minutes from campus. A little bit different in
terms of I thought that was a legitimate home court
advantage in their comeback win over Texas. But playing again
on your art travels home floor against Creighton, that travels
well at Lake at noon. It's not that big. What
do the kids say, It's not that deep. It's not
that deep. By the way, I've been hanging out my
(15:42):
son here for the last couple of days. I'm telling
you my vernacular is getting way better, way way better.
Nothing more hip than when your son's sixteen. Happy birthday
to my son. Hey, scottlieb Let's welcome in. John Fanta
Fox Sports Radio, a Fox Sports college basketball reporter. He
does by play. You'll see him on the field of
(16:02):
sixty eight. If you follow college basketball, you know about
that podcast, which also you can view online. UH and
he joins us now as the NCAA tournament kicks off. Jentle,
me let me ask you about last night. You know
you covered the Big East a Ton for Fox and
UH and Xavier had a huge comeback win against Texas.
And there's there's several reports that Rodney Terry will be
(16:25):
let go and additional reports that Sean Miller will be
the next head coach of Texas. What what what have
you heard in regards to the Texas situation?
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Well, what we know and doud great to be with
you on what is a holiday is that is that
Chris del Conzie was very interested in Sean Miller the
last time he was trying to hire a head coach.
But Texas beat Xavier in the Henca Turno, which was
quite ironic in the sweet sixteen. So then you weren't
going to to not keep Rodney Terry as head coach.
(16:57):
Rodney had done his part to to keep that job
and it felt like, you know, on the natural right move.
But now there's an irony to these two paths crossing again.
But Terry has not gotten Texas to a level that
they believe they should be at, which I got to say, Doug,
for the last fifteen years, Texas has been not achieving
(17:20):
the level that they want to achieve in any sport
because at Texas they aspire at a football school to
win national championships and everything. Well, to me, that's a
you problem Texas.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
More.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
You keep selecting these head coaches, some of which are
have been good. Honestly. Now, the Chris Beer thing ended
the way that it did for off the court reasons.
But like you know, Shaka Smart's found a proper home
for himself in Marquette. There's a larger picture discussion. The
point is, yes, Chris doug Conte, if this search opens up,
which I think it will, Sean Miller's number one on
his list. Then it comes down to Sewan making a decision.
(17:53):
You know, he built a house in Cincinnati, so you know,
as you know, to build a house, you could sell
it and you take the Texas job and you get
a ton of nil. And if if that's what you want,
and if that's what you're looking to do in your
in your career and go to the Southeastern Conference, then
that's that's what he's going to get. And he's one
of the best. He's one of the better coaches in
(18:14):
the sports. I'd say he's a top fifteen coach in
college top fifteen to twenty coach at college basketball. Uh
if not, you know, cop ten to twelve. He's that good.
You know, we'll see, we'll see if if Xavier giving
him a chance and a new lease on life, if
that plays a part at all. It's not that the
Musketeers don't have money. They'll put up a lot of
money to try to keep them. They just don't have
(18:36):
Texas money.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah. No, I mean it's interesting because little backstory John
Fanton joining us here. I'm Doug Golibin for Collins the Herd.
You go back to his fourth year at Xavier. Fourth
year at Xavier, and uh, the Oklahoma State job was open,
and uh, Mike Holder, the then ad at Oklahoma State,
asked me to reach out to Sean or At first
(18:59):
he asked me, like, who is hired? And I was like, man,
I'd hire Sean Miller. So I called Sean and Sean said,
at the time, hey, listen, Xavier gave me a chance
when and this is the first time round. Xavier gave
me a chance when nobody else would. So I'm going
to stay here for five years. If you look at
my contract, the buyout goes way down after my fifth year.
(19:22):
That's I told them I would stay at least five years.
And so there was definitely loyalty there. I know it's
a business where so many people think there's no sort
of loyalty, but Sean does have some and the fact
that Sean got fired in Arizona and Xavier didn't think
twice and brought him back. I think shows again their
(19:43):
mutual loyalty.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
But well, you know what else it has. Douga no strust,
He's no streuss at Xavior none. You're never going to
be under pressure. Like, yeah, they have standards, Yes, they
want to make the Sweet sixteen. The program's never made
a Final four. If he ever got close to that'd
be you know, he already is a is a Xavier
great for his multiple stints at the job. You go
(20:06):
to Texas, Doug, you know what it is. You're gonna win,
You're gonna you're gonna contend for Final four, You're gonna
go deep in the tournament. You know, you go two
years there and you haven't done that. Well, he answers
year three. You know there's pressure on now there's Texas
is an unrelenting pressure pack job. Uh, if you're at
the football program, if you're at the basketball program. So
if he wants that, then then they're gonna and they're
(20:29):
gonna back up the Brins truck. And that's that's why
you make the move. But you know, this is a
guy who You're right, he is loyal. I know how
much pride he has to like to be in the
Big East and go to New York City for the
for the conference tournament, and Doug, you know this, well,
that's not just some other event like he he enjoys
being a part of that whole equation and only he
(20:52):
can think and fathom what he ultimately wants to do.
So but there's no question he's at the top of
Texas's list.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Doug Gollivan for Collins to hurt Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio
app of course you have John Fanta joining us. He's
a Fox Sports Radio kind of every Fox Sports kind
of everything college basketball, right, just kind of immersed himself
in it. Great play by play guy, and of course
he does some college basketball reporting as well as work
with Field of sixty eight. What did you think of
(21:23):
of Gary Debrees? And he takes the Indiana job and
during his press conference he was like, look, they were
really respectful of my season, coming to you know, my
season and wait until it concluded. So it feels like
this would had been done for a bit. Did that
surprise you in any way?
Speaker 6 (21:45):
It actually really surprised me because I can't tell you.
How many times I've heard, you know, an agent say, well,
there's something to be said about going two years or
three years before you take.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Next next job.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Now, Indiana is an exception, right, it's not to me
in twenty twenty five. You know you've had to achieve
major success in the last decade of fifteen years. I
don't put Indiana in blue blood Tier A. I really
do not. What not tier A?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Come on, bro, no man, Well, hold on, fantastic. Here,
here's here's your issue. Here's your issue. Well on, here's
your issue, John, here's your issue. Okay, you're kind of timeless,
so people will be surprised. How old are you?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I'm twenty nine. That's why Duke No, it's Duke Kansas, Kentucky,
Carolina or in Tierra Indiana is not in the same class.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Well again, so you're talking the super high major elite.
Most people would put UCLA in that. Some people think
not right, I mean, because they have more titles than
anybody else.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
If you want to put Tier B, that's that's fine.
But like if we're teering this.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
The different the difference is, if you like, listen again,
I'm becoming an old man, right, I'm becoming old man.
I am not yet. There's not a five next to
my name just yet. Soon but not yet. But uh,
when I mean it's Indiana, I mean it is. It
is still India. It's you know what it is. It's
(23:14):
Alabama football before they got Saban, Alabama football before they
got Saban. And there will be a guy that will
wake that place up. And whoever that guy is, if
it's Darian like great, uh, but somebody will wake that
place up anyway, go ahead, I apologize. I apologize because
I've heard that sentiment from other people.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
But go ahead, No, I hear you. When you've made
two Final four since nineteen eighty seven, it's and the bar.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean then we then we had to put you.
We have to put Yukon in in any territory as well.
Right like you're twenty, you didn't list Yukon. Yukon's won
what five national titles, worked with three different coaches.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Connecticut is more so than Indiana. Connecticut would be in
the packing order with what they have done with six
and twenty five years is absolutely absurd. They're right, They're
right there, They're ahead. If I were to okay, needless
to say, I was surprised because you're in your first
year on the job. I thought, you know, Darren was
(24:11):
a really good hire for West Virginia.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I love the hire.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
They're off to a really nice start. You know, there
are people are jarred by this, and they frankly they
should be. I mean, I don't blame Darren for taking
this job because I think, like you said, if he
gets it back, that that place is that fan base,
that brand, how they move the needle on television speaks
for itself. It's next level. But it did surprise me
(24:39):
to hear just how transparent and how open it was
that he had been engaging in conversations in his first
year at another high major, big twelve job.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah. Yeah, no, it's it's it's nutty. It's really really nutty.
It is who gets Iowa.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Well, you know, I I think Ben McCollum is it
would be there is at the top of their list.
I also think there's a chance Ben. I know Ben's
got the roots and whatnot. I know he's obviously done
a great job of Drake, but but I almost think
not the flight Iowa here.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
No, come on, man, you're from Iowa, Okay, and you're
Obviously he's going to bring Ben starts with him, who's
the star point guard. If you haven't seen him, he's fabulous.
We played against them, He's awesome, right Like, No.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
I think it makes I think it makes a lot
of sense for both sides. It's gonna be him. My
only point would be I think he's an absolute superstar
and could get an even bigger jobs. It's a great
win for Iowa. Oh well, I think it's a great
win FORBAB. Like if I were if I were Villanova,
I'd be calling Ben McCollum.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I don't think. I'm not sure it works there, but
it's it's it is. What is what is going on
with Villanova? There was so much talker Chris Collins. There
are season's done Nova, season's done, But Chris Collins is
not the head coach. So what's going on in Nova?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Well?
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Porter Moser is the number one name right now. And
obviously Porter took like all the Chicago to the final four,
and you know now at Oklahoma he's got Connecticut tomorrow night,
which is kind of an interesting backdrop considering he's going
up against the big East school. But I Jay Wright
is you know, he's still an active member of things
(26:32):
that Villanova does. Of course he's going to be. And
Eric Rodell, the new athletic director, comes over from Oregon,
and Eric, you know, I think the way that they're
looking at this is you can go one of two ways.
You get somebody on the rise. But there's not a
ton of those guys right now in the cycle on
this crazy carousel. You also know, Doug the next two days,
(26:53):
a coaching hero could be born. That's that's why the
madness is so amazing. It could change somebody's life and
front of our eyes. But I think that they're looking
at a veteran like the Collins the Moser discourse. You know,
the the name that was outside the box was if
if Mick Cronin ever didn't pan out at UCLA. But
(27:13):
I think Nick's going to be at UCLA. Some of
the negativity of January and some of the discourse coming
out of there was a little bit eye opening. But
I don't think he's going anywhere. I think, you know,
I think they're in a place where it's down to Moser.
It's down. I mean, Collins is still in the race,
I suppose, And don't sleep on Richard Patino you know,
I think that Rick Rick is going to try his
(27:36):
best if Ryan Odam's not at Virginia, which Ryan Odams
is going to be at Virginia. My humble opinions, if
he weren't at Virginia would have been a slam dunk
for Villanova to hire him. Watch out for Richard.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, you know. The one thing is, you know, if
you're at the best job in the league, don't leave
unless it's at the best job in the league, right
Porter Moser would leave because they don't have the money
at Oklahoma for basketball that everybody else does, whereas Nova
does have the money. But for Richard Bertino, they have
the most money in their league. And that's a very powerful,
(28:10):
powerful feeling. John Fanton is our guest. I'm Doug Golighban
for Collins. I heard Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app. Okay,
who's going down? All right? Everywhere you go? I know
everybody wants an upset. Uh give me your upset. I
got friends texting me all the time, like I need
I need your upset picks. Like dude, I'm if it's
a Horizon League or mid major, like I can tell
(28:30):
you everything about them. I can tell you a lot
about UC San Diego because we studied them a bunch.
But who do you think is most likely to pull
off the upset in the next two days.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Well, I think that there's a guaranteed double to just
seed winning in the South. In fact, I'll go with
multiple double digit seats. I think you see San Diego
will beat Michigan. I never trust the team coming off
the Big Ten Tournament championship. There's a history of this.
And then about to learn more about the player you
(29:02):
already know, Ane Wha kh Jones kid averages twenty a game.
He is a stud, but he goes beyond them, Doug.
They've got Hayden Gray, who's an elite defender. You know,
they get up in you defensively and really guard that.
They're so balanced on the other end of the floor.
And I just think Michigan's turnover problems. You see San
Diego's at the top of the charts in turnover margin.
(29:23):
I think it's a problem matchup there. I also really
like James Jones and his Yale team. Again, you know
they pulled it off last year over Auburn. I know
A and M can muck it up and can really
make it a battle. But I think that's going to
be a game, and I think John Pulakidis, who is
a stud for Yale, I think the Bulldogs are going
to be in it. I have Carolina beating All miss
that's not the trendy Cinderella upset, but I could see Lipscomb.
(29:47):
Watch out for Lipscomb. They got a kid named Jacob
Agna Savitch that's averaging over twenty per game. And if
you look at the Bisons and the style that they play,
I think it could give Iowa States some problems.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Gotta you have Iowa stayed. Also, I always State also
does another point guard?
Speaker 6 (30:04):
You know they don't, And that's the big reason why
is that Lipscomb has a top seventy five offense. I
always State doesn't have key Sean Gilbert. So you know
that's something that I'm keeping an eye on. If Liberty
were playing anyone other than Oregan, I would probably have
taken Richie McKay's team, But I Doug. I respect Dana
Altman way too much. I'm heading over to the arena
(30:27):
after after we talked for Purdue and high Point, and
I think Allan Huff could give Purdue a run for
their money. This afternoon.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, and by the way, high Point, they don't have
Purdue money, but they actually have a lot of a
lot of money. And so it's a town to roster
and Augna Savitch is from Sheboygan. So don't don't don't
start me with Wisconsin kids that are somewhere else that
everybody help My Donor's like, hey, why don't you have him?
I wasn't there, I wasn't here. I can't recruit guys
(30:57):
that I would five years ago. When I last three
is when I wasn't here. Anyway, Fanta, I'll love catching
up on radio. Can't wait to do it in person,
hopefully at the final four. Thanks so much for being
our guest.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
You know, Doug, I hope you're not tight up against
the break zone, but I do want to say this
to you. I respect the heck out of you for
doing what you've done and taken the Green Bay job.
And I also think it's really cool some of the
things that you just did in year one, whether it
be engaging with fans you know, your fan base, your community,
(31:33):
and getting your kids to kind of see the bigger picture.
I could tell that you're showing them the bigger picture.
Of life, and I know it's hard to tell. And
if I went on the sidelines, I don't even want
to picture that because we wouldn't be any good.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
And so.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
I'm rooting for you, man, and know that you've got
a fan and me and I think a lot of
us because we want to see this pan out. And
I give you a lot of credit because I know
it wasn't the easiest of your ones. But I could
tell your kids never stopped compete, and that's what life's about.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
No, I appreciate it they did. They fought hard for us.
And just just know November three, we're opening at Northwestern.
I believe that'll be available either Big ten Network or
FS one. Would love to have you on the call.
You you can do it out with Revsen, you know,
Revers right down the street, one of one of you.
Two got a couple, got a couple of potential. We're
(32:22):
we're talking with the Butler Bulldogs about playing in Hinkle.
I alays want to coach Hinkle as well.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Boy, I'm just imagining Dave Revson and with boxing gloves
that that kind of was funny to think about it
exactly all right?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
See if John John fan choice let's get to uh
Ryan No, when I do rhyme music with the news,
We're doing rye music with the news next. Okay, did
you guys see what Luca did last night? Did you?
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Speaker 2 (33:50):
It's the Heart. Doug Olivin for herd. NCAA tournament underway,
the Blue Jays and the Cardinals, right, the Cardinals. I
love the nickname thing. I love the nicknames. I'll be
honest with you, what I don't know High Points nickname.
I'm gonna have to find that one out there. They're
pretty good. Uh, Creighton is beating Louisville twenty eight twenty one.
(34:14):
That one I do have in my bracket. Pat Kelsey's
done a great job. But I think that's kind of
a lame nickname there from high Point No offense to
the high Point Panthers. But you gotta have a better
nickname than that, don't you. Panthers? What was Ti?
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Well?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
All the Tiger's taken and Bulldogs right like, I'm just
you're mailing it in if you go if you go Tigers,
Panthers or Bulldogs any others Tigers, Panthers, Bulldogs, I think
you're kind of mailing it in. In terms of nicknames,
(34:52):
there's no list of new nicknames. Sectimicus, you know. Oh,
hold on Tigers, Tigers. Oh it's gold jar Gold anyway,
high Points up eight five on Purdue, I will say that.
Like again, I think Alan huss who's it, does a
fantastic job. He's another former Creton assistant. But a Purdue
(35:16):
to lose again early, Like, yes, I don't. I know
they got the National Championship game last year, but like,
but it's hard anyway, Well, let's talk some Lakers. We
got a little football news. Let's get to rhyme music
with the news.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
No, no, no, this is the herd Line News.
Speaker 9 (35:38):
Doug, good morning, Good to be here with you.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
As you pointed out high Point perdue early in the
first half, tight one.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Have you ever seen high Points campus?
Speaker 9 (35:47):
I have not, to be honest, I'm not sure I
know where high Point is.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
High Points in North Carolina. It is nice, Okay, It's
it's like a it's like a entry club.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
No, I'm serious. Like Google, people will Google like what
you can go to school there, like yeah, yeah, it's
crazy crazy nice.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
Wow. And in the other game, we have Creighton Louisville.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I was there last year. I called the tournament champions IHP.
They'd lost at home, so I called Longwood won it Longwood.
Noother really nice campus.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
But oh yeah, very nice, very nice.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I would is very long, long one. But high point
is the campus is crazy nice.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Twenty eight twenty one, about seven minutes into the first
half with nine seed Creyton taking on eight seed Louisville.
All right, here we go. Let's turn our attention from
college basketball. It's a pro basketball. We had some history
in the NBA last night in the most unexpected way,
maybe from the most unexpected place. Thirty four points in
(36:53):
only nineteen minutes from Sandrew Mamu kaylash Bealey. That's right
of the Spurs with your player comes off the bench,
caught fire like nobody ever has in the history of
the league. I will repeat that he scored thirty four points,
going thirteen to fourteen from the field, seven to seven
from three, and only played nineteen minutes. First player in
(37:16):
league history to score thirty four points in under twenty
minutes played.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's a heater, Doug, that is a heater. Vinnie Johnson's
somewhere sitting up going like, that's the real microwave. Instead
of the microwave, he can be the the air fire. Yeah, seriously,
the airfire. Wow, just a quick update. My airfire skills
are amazing. Airfire skills are amazing, amazing, amazing. So what
does that entail? I mean, I can make all the
(37:41):
like fried chicken, fried the fish, whatever, but like against airfire,
sits to oil. And then what I really do is
there's a company Malot meets and I have like a
freezer full of like you know, I'm a big hangar
steak guy. Okay, I can take a frozen hangar steak
salted up, put it in there eighteen minutes later, perfection.
(38:04):
Huh interesting, I'm telling you, I'm I'm all. My team
wasn't any good, but my air frier skills elite.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
If Okay, I'm gonna go back to the fried chicken. Now,
are you just calling it fried chicken because you've put
it in the air fryer or are we actually breading it? No?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
You read it? Okay, yeah, you read it. Are does
anyone on earth not like fried chicken?
Speaker 9 (38:26):
I'm not sure it's possible. It's right.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
The only thing you don't like about fried chicken is
it's cooked in oil.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I'm pretty sure the government puts you on a specific
list if you say you don't like fried chicken, because
there are some suspicious things.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Going on in correct. Okay, So as somebody who loves
fried chicken, it used to make fried chicken. Then I
was like, that's really not good for you, even when
you try and do the olive oil, which you know
when olive oil gets hot, wast your time. Anyway. Uh yeah,
bread it up. You know, I got I have, I
got the whole thing going, all right. I know how
to do the whole mixture. Double dip that sucker. Throw
(38:59):
in the air fry again, Crispy Brown. I mean the
Colonel Sanders actually knocked on my doors like I smelled chicken.
It was really good, like your recipe. I need it,
all right, I'll buy it.
Speaker 9 (39:12):
I'll buy it.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
First team, all air fire, first team, all airfire.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Well done, well done, Doug, all right, sticking in the
NBA here, big sale, that's right, the Boston Celtics. The
Grossbeck family has sold the Boston Celtics at evaluation of
six point one billion dollars.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
The reigning NBA champs have been sold to Bill Chisholm,
a managing partner of Symphony Technology Group, is buying the
Boston Celtics.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So a tech guy bought it.
Speaker 9 (39:45):
Tech guy bought it.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Largest sale of a sport in North America, sports franchise
in North America.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Nerds continue to run the earth undefeated this point when
imagining came home, Honey, I picked some of the store.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Would you pick up Celtics NBA franchise?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
How much? Six point one billion? What? Why? When we
were kids? You're not that old, right, those of us
who are old enough, like everything was be a doctor
or a lawyer, right, Yeah, that's who makes the money.
Now it's tech or finance. Definitely tech or finance. So
the grossbeck didn't they buy it for like three hundred
and something million?
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah, it's two thousand and two. Bought for three hundred
and sixty million, sold it for six point one Yeah
that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
That's not bad.
Speaker 9 (40:27):
Pretty good.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
ROI I like that.
Speaker 9 (40:29):
Pretty good.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
ROI, I personally would feel pretty good about that if
that were me. Uh, I think I think so?
Speaker 9 (40:35):
All right?
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You make a billion dollars, what do you do?
Speaker 9 (40:38):
Mm, buy an island? Probably just like that's what Larry
Ellison did. He did.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
He was just like about an island of Hawaii. Yeah,
this is my an island. It was like he was like, oh,
I'm gonna buy that little island. He bought one of
the Hawaiian islands, right like per of that. I don't know,
I don't know what the going heals LINI right.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yes, I'm not sure what the going right an island
is these days, but I think if I got a billion,
I could probably figure out how to get one.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Colin went like Colin went ranch, right, he went ranch, definitely,
because when I think of Colin, I think ranch.
Speaker 9 (41:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Look I don't have I got nothing against a ranch,
but I'm yeah, give me, give me the water, give
me the ocean. I don't need I'll go I'll go
pet a horse, but I don't need to like take
care of them.
Speaker 9 (41:29):
It sounds like a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
There are a lot of work. There are also a
lot of money, yes, trust me, Yeah, that's right. Of
music with the news.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Gallib In for Colin. This is the Herd. Okay, Creighton
continuously thirty one twenty five and high Point is up
eleven to nine on Perdue. It is also interesting that
like schools like Purdue who went to the national championship
game last year, like last year, they literally went to
the national championship game, but we still hold it against
(42:04):
them the early tournament exits of the past. I mean,
I guess rightfully, So right, you lose to Saint Peter's
as a as a one seed. It's interesting that you
would think there's a recency bias, which, hey, here's the
national runner up. They got their back court back. You know,
they have an all American inside as well, and yet
(42:26):
just us as sports fans, all we can think of
is and then the team lost to Saint Peter's, the
team that loves Saint Peter's, and once upon a time
they lost to Arkansas Little Rock as well in the
first round the tournament. All right, coming up next here
in the Herd, we know what Aaron Rodgers is going
to do this weekend, right, Like, you know the expression
(42:48):
that tracks what Aaron Rodgers is doing and will do
this weekend tracks. I'll prove it to you next time.
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