July 28, 2025 • 39 mins
Danny Parkins fills in for Colin
Is LeBron James is in the news again. Does he want to Denver?
Thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones not paying Micah Parsons yet
Josh Allen is one of the best QBs in the NFL, but how bad does he need to win a Super Bowl?
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Let's do this. It is The Herd. No Colin Cowherd.
I am Danny Parkins from FS one's First Things First,
soon to be expanded. First Things First, it's a thrill
to be out here in Los Angeles and for the
legend that is Colin Cowherd. We've got a great show
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for you today on this Monday, my guy Cole Kamt
from The Bears will join us in about thirty minutes
to explain why everyone is completely correct. It's a panic
about every interception around Caleb Williams. Do I think Cole
might have a different take on that. Bruce Feldman joins
the show. My new teammate at First Things First, Chris Broussard.
Later on the Bear tons of football because we made it.
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There's a football game this week kind of in the
Hall of Fame game. But we've got a lot of
NFL to get to over the course of today's show.
But somehow someway. Even though it is game week in
the NFL, Lebron James still finds himself in the center
of the news because I did not expect to land
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in Los Angeles to an Instagram post from a guy
I had never heard of, who was Nikola Jokic's agent
on a yacht in France with Lebron James and Maverick Carter.
I was like, Oh, okay, Lebron world traveler. Who who
among us hasn't been on a yacht in the south
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of France with the greatest offensive player in twenty years
as agent?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean, that's a thing that could happen to anybody,
And I'm like, all right, that's nice. They bumped into
each other while vacationing having some fine wine, and then
you read the caption on Nikola Jokich's agent's Instagram post.
The summer of twenty twenty five is the perfect time
to make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six.
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Summer of twenty twenty five, that's now perfect time to
make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six. Yeah,
that's gonna have some reverberations around the NBA because everybody
seems to be convinced because the Lakers invited Luca to
dinner and didn't invite him because they are not willing
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to trade the last first round pick that they control
to go out and make a bigger move for this
offseason to try to be all in quote unquote to
win now with Lebron, that Lebron is somehow unhappy with
the Lakers, and Lebron, by the way, has done some
things to fan fuel to that flames. Because I like
to say about Lebron, we're similar in age. We're elder millennials.
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We grew up with the Internet. We understand what it's like.
Oh I'm gonna unfollow my employer, I'm gonna tweak this thing,
I'm gonna patrol a little bit. Lebron in his camp
is very good at controlling the message and nothing that
they do is without intent, and he drives the twenty
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four to seven sports talk industrial complex more than any
modern athlete, arguably more than any athlete ever. So he's vacationing,
He's on a yacht, this guy puts out a post
and now it becomes a story. But I don't think
Lebron is leaving LA, and it is for no better
reason than say it out loud. Lebron James Denver nugget.
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I just don't believe it. I have a very hard
time believing. The guy who is now on his third franchise,
who has delivered LA a championship, who just got Luka
Danciic as a teammate, who they drafted his son, He's
building his forever home out here, he has all of
his business ventures out here. I have a hard time
believe believing. On that yacht they were talking about Lebron
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James going to Denver, And for the life of me,
I have struggled with understanding why we talk about Jokic
and his future in Denver so different than we talk
about Giannis and his future in Milwaukee. Again, this was
Joker's agent talking about big plans for next summer. Well,
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Yokic is under contract for this year, and he's under
contract for next year, but then he's got a player
option the year after that. And it's not that long
ago when Josh Cronkey, the owner of the Nuggets, for
some unknown reason floated the idea of trading Joker.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You remember, for us as an organization, going into that
Secon and Apron is not necessarily something that we're scared of.
I think that there are rules around it that we
needed to be very careful of with our injury history.
The wrong person gets injured, and very quickly you're into
scenario where that I never want to have to contemplate
and met to tradeing number fifteen.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Odd choice. I think we could all agree to, unprompted
bring up trading Nikola Jokich. But Yanis can't do anything
without one hundred headlines and hot take people being like
Yanis has to leave Milwaukee. When Jannis was an international
pick to a small market team who's won an MVP
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and delivered a championship and has signed multiple extensions to
stay with the team that drafted him. Nikola Jokich has
won multiple MVPs, has one championship, was a late round,
second round pick international player drafted by a small market team.
There are way more similarities to Jannis and Jokic, but
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no one ever talks about Yokic being unhappy in Denver.
What if Jokic's agent is making big plans for next year,
when for all intents and purposes, it is an expiring
contract for Jokic, because the year after is a player
option for Jokic to leave Denver to go to Los
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Angeles to play with his longtime friend Luka Doncic, that
feels to me way more likely what the big plans
could be than Lebron James being a Denver nugget for
one year. I have no idea how many more years
Lebron James is playing. We say father Time is undefeated.
Lebron James is trying to shatter expectations on that cliche,
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but to say it out loud. Test tells me it
is more likely that they're just trolling. Frankly, but that
if I had to say Jokic in LA and they
figure out a way to make that work, or Lebron
just straight signed in Denver for a year, which granted
is simpler given Lebron is not under contract beyond this
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year as we all know. I'll still take the more
difficult path and believe that it's much more likely that
Lebron is figuring out a way to team up with Jokic,
pair him with Luca, make one more run at a
championship two years from now, and then sail off into
the Sunsets, leaving the Lakers set up to be successful
after him and having that be a part of his Lakers' legacy.
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I won you the title in the bubble, maybe I
won you a second title, and oh yeah, by the way,
I set you up to have the best duo in
the NBA going forward with Luca and the Joker. So
we don't know where Jokic or Lebron's going. I got
a pretty good idea how this next story is going
to end, but it still doesn't change any of the drama.
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Micah Parsons is going to stay in Dallas. But it's
lovely to see that there's thirty one teams in the
NFL and then there's just a television producer. Because as
a content guy who loves the NFL year round, I
feel like all of us, everyone who sits behind a
microphone should have to write a handwritten thank you letter
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to Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, because love them
or hate them, we all have an opinion of how
they do business and why they are just still so
relevant and compelling despite it being thirty years without a championship,
and so over the weekend, Micah Parsons, who doesn't have
a contract, apparently has a little back tightness, but is
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there at training camp just not really participating. Jerry Jones
because for some reason, the owner of the team needs
to face the fans at training camp with a bunch
of cheerleaders behind him, had to come out and say
whatever he was saying about the new and improved team,
and he was greeted with chance of pay Micah, pay Micah,
and then he talked to the media afterwards and he
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was like, wow, well, the chance for paying CD were
louder last year, and you know, we paid Mike, we
paid Dak Prescott. And then he got hurt. He can't
help himself because this is what he does. And Dak
Prescott last year said, you know, I just kind of
stopped listening to Jerry, which is a bold thing for
a quarterback to say about the guy who signs his check.
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But that was last year. Ceedee Lamb. Just last week,
when talking about Micah Parsons and these contract negotiations that
are playing out as publicly as any contract negotiations in
the NFL, he was like, yeah, we just don't play
in those waters with the media and Jerry.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Jones obviously playing his media game with Jerry is not
the best, is not fun, is not recommended. But as
for Micaeh, he knows what he brings to this table, honestly,
for this team, for himself, and he should get what
he deserved. And I'm not indulging any of the craziness
that they got going, but I do want Michael to
get paid soon.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And he will get paid soon. You all know how
this ends. This is just noise. Last year, Nick Bosa
got paid and then Max Crosby got paid, and for
a moment in time, oh my god, Miles Garrett was
going to be traded from the Cleveland Browns. He wrote
a nice letter and everything, and then Miles Garrett became
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the highest paid non quarterback in football and he wants
to be a Brown for life and for a while.
I mean, I'm old enough to remember three weeks ago
when TJ. Watt was really unhappy with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Oh man, they were far apart, they weren't going to
get it done. And then whila, it's amazing. With forty
one million dollars per year to rush the quarterback and
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lose Wild Card weekend can do to a guy's mood,
and all of a sudden, TJ. Watt back with the Steelers, thrilled,
Micah Parsons will be a Dallas Cowboy. He will get
another contract. He will top TJ. Watts forty one million
per year. My guess is by a decent amount actually,
just given the age difference. I don't think it's going
to be forty one point two or forty two. He'll
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probably try to get to forty four forty five million
a year put some distance between him and the other
pass rushers. And I'm sure that's the sticking point in
the negotiations right now. But I think we would be
called a media literacy test here. I think we would
all be served to actually pay attention to Jerry Jones.
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And I know it's a bold strategy, and Ceedee Lamb
and Dak Prescott have said they're trying to do different things,
but I don't play quarterback for the Cowboys. Jerry Jones
saw how this country was enamored with the Last Dance,
and he said, I got to get me one of those.
And he struck a deal with Netflix to produce a
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multi part story of the Cowboys, and it's coming soon
and we'll see what America's appetite is for a long
form documentary on America's team. It will not be as
popular as the Last Dance because we're not in the
middle of a pandemic, but they were popular in the nineties.
The Bulls were popular in the nineties. I'm sure it
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will do quite well. But when the trailer came out,
there was a little snippet from Jerry Jones that I
actually was like, Ah, there it is, thank you. This
is a soap opera three hundred and sixty five days
a year. That is his business model. That is why
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they're not in the biggest market, but they're the most
valuable franchise. They don't have the most wins or the
most Super Bowls, but they're the most valuable, most talked
about franchise. He believes, and frankly has been proven right
that the soap opera is what sells. He's the owner,
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but he's also the general manager. But they absolutely have
a general manager in Will maclay. Like nobody believes that
Jerry Jones is scouring senior boll tape, but he wants
to call himself the general manager. No owner in the
NFL calls into local radio every week. No other owner
in the NFL does a postgame press conference every week.
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They played it out with Dak Prescott, they played it
out with Ceedee Lamb, They played it out with Michah Parsons.
What does that do? Back in the day, we would
say it filled column inches. Now it fills airtime because
then Micah Parsons has a podcast and he weighs in,
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Ceedee Lamb gets asked about it. That makes a news
cycle story. The fans chant something at him, that's a
news cycle story, and on and on and on. Jerry
Jones is competitive. Jerry Jones wants to win. He just
also wants to be the most talked about. You don't
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hear the Roonies or the Maras or the mccaskey's or
anyone else doing it the way that Jerry Jones does.
But Jerry Jones's team is worth more money, so he
probably looks at it like this might cost me a
few million bucks, and that thanks for a Cowboys fan
who wants to maximize the salary cap. But he's like
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the column inches and the airtime more than makes up
for it. Because people are talking about the Dallas Cowboys.
It's a soap opera. Three hundred and sixty five days
a year. Those are his words, not mine again. Thirty
one teams and a television producer, and it's been the
highest rated TV show in the NFL for the last
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thirty years. Coming up next on The Herd, the guy
who has the most to gain, I would say, by
far if he won a Super Bowl. He got philosophical
over the weekend and I absolutely loved it. Danny Parkinson
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Speaker 2 (16:02):
Of this week, Cole Comet will join me from Bears
training camp in just under ten minutes or so. We'll
talk Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, and if the Bears will
finally have a good offense for basically the first time
in my entire life as someone who was born in
Chicago in nineteen eighty six, but every year around this
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time it's who's going to be the breakout candidate, what's
the team that's going to surprise, who's going to disappoint,
who's under the most pressure, who's on the hot seat,
And there's totally open ended. There's a bunch of different
ways you can go with any of that stuff, right,
I think, for who needs the Super Bowl win the most,
whose legacy reputation would benefit from one the most, there's
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a pretty obvious answer here, and it is Josh Allen,
and Josh Allen to me, he's a guy I root for.
I've never met him, I've never spoke to him. I
have absolutely no connection to the Buffalo Bills organize in
any way. But Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, all time greats
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who played during the Michael Jordan era. Like man, that
must have been tough. That's what it feels like. Josh
Allen is in the Patrick Mahomes era because we saw
this not that long ago. Right, It was Brady and Manning,
but there was also Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers in
the AFC. It was just a dominant thing and Ben
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Roethlisberger got his Philip Rivers never did. And it'll probably
keep Philip Rivers out of Canton, even though He's sixth
all time in yards and touchdowns. Josh Allen is the
second best player in football. Lamar Jackson made that an
interesting conversation last year when he had over forty passing
touchdowns and under five interceptions, going with full Rogers. But
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for a real body of work, it has been Josh Allen.
And obviously Josh got his MVP last year, But if
you look at the sample of five years his prime,
basically like since Josh Allen became Josh Allen. If it
wasn't for Patrick Mahomes, it would be universally agreed upon
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that this guy was the best player in football. Because
it is universally agreed upon that Patrick Mahomes is the
best player in football. And the only thing that Josh
Allen can't do is be better than Patrick Mahomes. He's
second in wins, he's second in passing yards, and he's
second in passing touchdowns. Over the last five years, with
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Mahomes being first, first, and first across the board, that
has got to be a maddening existence. Be sure to
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Speaker 7 (18:57):
A lot to me, and I really appreciate him sharing
those words. But yeah, it's kind of crazy. Were you
just kind of coming out here and you're doing everything
that you can for a quick enjoyment of it, and
then you're on to the next and it's again, it's
like the MVP Awards, Like I don't look back and
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think about that night like it happened.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
It was over with, and I'll never think about it again.
To be honest, there is something that's sad about that,
But any high performer would understand. It's the journey, it's
the process, it's what you go through to get there,
because that's what actually takes the time. And then when
you sink the final potter, you hoist the Lombardi Trophy.
At some point that night ends and you just go back.
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I think it makes a ton of sense what Scheffler
said that it would relate with Josh Allen. But if
Josh Allen were to win, Like, let's just play out
the hypothetical. Let's say Josh Allen plays the Chiefs in
the playoffs again and this time he beats them and
the Bills, who are a slightly better favorite in the
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AFC than the Chiefs. That's mostly because they play in
the AFC East. But still, let's say the Bills won
that Super Bowl and Josh Allen had his Super Bowl moments,
the Super Bowl MVP, all of a sudden, he's like,
all right, I've got an MVP, I've got a Super Bowl,
I've got a Super Bowl MVP, and I beat Mahomes
on the way there. He would still be a distant
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second to Mahomes. Obviously, multiple MVPs, the three rings, the
multiple appearances. Obviously, there's nothing that could happen this year
that could have Josh Allen passing Patrick Mahomes. But at
least the Manning Brady rivalry could potentially start to creep
back into existence because Brady has the way better trophy case.
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But Peyton Manning was looked at as a worthy adversary,
an all time great, a first ballot Hall of Famer,
a truly worthy number two to Brady's number one. He
got to the four Super Bowls, he won a couple
of them. They had epic regular season battles. They both
were able to beat each other in the postseason, the
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regular season the same thing. Now it's Josh has beaten
Patrick in the regular season but never in the postseason,
and Mahomes has all of the hardware. When Josh Allen
has to look around and he's like, I'm just as
good as this guy. He has to believe that, even
if you and I don't, because if he is that
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close to him statistically over a huge sample size for
that long and he's beaten him in the regular season,
I have no reason to believe that he doesn't believe
that he can get there. And quick aside, I'm glad
that Scotti Scheffler is having his moment here. After the
open takes the Claret jug and he goes to the
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Happy Gilmore two premiere, and now Happy Gilmore two is out.
You'all need to relax a little bit. Relax with the
hot takes. I'm Happy Gilmore too. The movie's fine. You
go in with low expectations and then it clears them.
It was nostalgic. There were cameos. I won't give anything away,
but Scheffler's was hilarious. Will's Alataurus was hilarious. John Daly's
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was funny. You know what you're getting going into an
Adam Sandler movie. He's a volume shooter. Can he give
you uncut gems and punch drunk glove? Yeah, but he
also wants to put his family in friends in movies
and have a good time at hang out and do
some ridiculousness and do some dumb stuff and do some callbacks.
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It was a movie. It was fine. I'll ever watch
it again. But this was the best thing ever. Was
the worst thing ever. No, it was an Adam Sandler
movie in twenty twenty five that hundreds of millions of
people somehow will somehow watch it based on the Netflix algorithm,
and we'll all keep going on with our lives. And
you can't recreate the nostalgia of the classic from the nineties,
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but we grew up. That's kind of how it works.
So I'm glad Scotti Scheffler had his moment though, because
he's seen as this like robotic golfer and then he
was hilarious in the movie. But Josh Allen having the
ability to come to grips with being second and having
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that emotional maturity to understand I'm doing everything I can.
I have been great. I have been great in the
regular season, I have been great in the postseason, and
no one looks around very good offensive line. They transitioned
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and gave him a more balanced attack with Cook, They've
changed offensive coordinators. They have figured out a way to
consistently be great with a great quarterback, not with a
super team. Now with all pros everywhere, just on the
talent and the development and the leadership of that guy
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of Josh Allen, they have figured out a way to
put themselves in a position to every single year be
competing for a shot at a Lombardi Trophy. There is
no doubt in my mind that Josh Allen is going
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to win at some point. He's just got to slay
that dragon. And then when he does, I would say
the rivalry is on. So I hope we get Bill's
Chiefs again in the playoffs. And even though I covered
the Chiefs for years and lived in Kansas City, if
Josh Allen got his, I'd feel like he's earned it
because he's been the second best of Mahomes for five years.
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At this point, speaking of the Chiefs, there is at
us is good and we see stories all the time
now because we're on the internet and we are addicted
to football that we want any little nugget or morsel
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of information Anthony Richardson threw an interception. He's going to
never figure it out. Caleb Williams through an interception. Ben
Johnson's innovation on offense isn't working. That is just how
it works in the information age and how addicted to
football we are. And I'm not even saying that there's
nothing that you can take out of reports from training camp. Hey,
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they put lines on these preseason games. I'm not above
gambling on the Hall of Fame game. I think you
can have impact on your fantasy drafts. I'm not saying
don't pay attention to it, but judging stats or results
from practices is insane. Almost none of it matters. But
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if you want a topic from training camp that does matter,
I would give you Josh Simmons being with the ones
for the Kansas City Chiefs. Already, Josh Simmons was supposed
to be a top fifteen pick out of Ohio State
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and he broke his pateeller tendon and he fell to
the Chiefs with a thirty first pick in the draft.
And anyone who remembers the chief season last year, it
was a revolving door. Right four different guys played left
tackle for the Chiefs so much so that they had
to shift Joe Dooney they're all pro guard from left
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guard to left tackle, and now he's on the Bears.
So it became a situation where then the Eagles off
of course, dominated the Chiefs offensive line among other things
that they dominated in that Super Bowl, and it brought
flashbacks to when the Chiefs lost to Tampa in the
Super Bowl when mahomes offensive line fell apart last year.
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This was the worst offensive line of the Mahomes era.
He was hit one hundred and eighteen times. He was
sacked forty one times, four different left tackles. They lose
their left guard to the Bears. The guy they drafted
Kingsley su or Sue Matiaala excuse me, in the second
round two years ago. Now he's going to be their
left guard. But if Josh Simmons is what Josh Simmons
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is supposed to be, a top fifteen pick on a
cheap contract who immediately comes in and plays left tackle, well, now,
all of a sudden, you've got an elite prospect on
a cheap contract at left tackle. Kingsley goes from left
tackle to left guard second year in the league. Creed
Humphrey center, one of the best centers in the NFL
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under a long term contract. Tray Smith one of the
best right guards in the NFL under a long term contract.
And while Juwan Taylor frustrates people because he gets a
few too many penalties and he does that like a
little quick jump off where it feels like he's getting
a jump off the line of scrimmage that a bunch
of guys do, Jewan Taylor is a fine right tackle.
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And then they signed more the backup from the Niners,
to a healthy contract. All of a sudden, the Chiefs
offensive line, if Simmons is legit goes from huge liability,
huge weakness to massive strength. And last season the Chiefs
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offense was just not impressive. It was not impressive in
terms of points scored, obviously, but the big one that
anyone could see if you watched the game was like
where did the big plays go? And it wasn't just
like Tyreek Hill he's been gone for a few years,
Like where And it's not did Mahomes forget how to
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throw the deep ball? No? Is it all just that
the opposing defensive coordinators are doing the cover two shell
and daring you to beat him. Underneath. Yeah, that's some
of it. They were last in the NFL in touchdowns
that went twenty plus yards. Rashi Rice and Hollywood Brown
and Xavier Worthy played a grand total of zero snaps
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together last year. Hollywood Brown is healthy. We'll see what
discipline comes for Rashi Rice off the field. Xavier Worthy
had the great Super Bowl. But those three guys are
going to play together this year, and the offensive line
should be better, so that means the offense should be better.
And those are the types of training camp stories to
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me that matters. New guy in new place, rookie making
and adjustment, healthy or not healthy. When a player throws
an interception, well, did the coach before the rep tell him,
you've got to go to this route because we've got
to work on the timing. There was he playing against
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the ones or the twos? What was going on on
the offensive line, We just don't we don't know. We
don't know so many of the details of what they
were trying to accomplish in a given play or a
given drill that reporting on successes or failures or stats
or any of that just feels like a fool's errand.
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But the Kansas City Chiefs got a franchise caliber left
tackle with a thirty first pick in the draft who
we didn't know if he was going to be healthy
for week one, and he was healthy for day one
of training camp. So the guy they signed from the
Niners is now rotating on the right side of the
offensive line instead of the left side of the offensive line. Yeah,
that's a story. Chiefs offense catching up with the Chiefs defense,
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which has carried them the last couple of years. That's
a story because if Spagnolo gets the defense to be
with the defense has been, the offense gets back to
being what the offense was. That's why the Chiefs aren't
afraid of the Broncos or the Chargers or the improved
Raiders or anyone else because last year, I mean two
years ago, they won the Super Bowl, leading the league
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in drops. Last year they had the least explosive offense
in the NFL, had four different left tackles, and they
won fifteen games and made it to the Super Bowl.
So you want a training camp story that matters, Josh
Simmons getting reps. Already, forget reps. He's your first string
left tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs. That is a
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training camp story that matters. We had some tech issues
with Cole Kamett. We'll try to figure that out. But
on the other side, there's a big lesson that Caleb
Williams learned from last season and it's worth getting into.
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in for Colin on the Herd. Okay, you're gonna hear
some coping. I'm gonna just be honest with you, Bears
guy from Chicago, and everyone knows the numbers at this point.
Never had a four thousand yard passer. Only franchise in
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the NFL to never have a four thousand yard passer.
I have never had a thirty touchdown passer only franchise
in the NFL to never have a thirty touchdown passer.
It is an organization that is defined by their incompetence
at quarterback. They would say, no, we're the Monsters in
the Midway and Gail Sayers and Alter Payton and the
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eighty five Bears, and that is all true, but it
has permeated so much of Bear's lore that it almost
became folklore. It's like, well, you can't throw the ball
in Chicago, it's too windy, except for Buffalo and Green
Bay and plenty of other places that have had worse
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weather that also have quarterbacks who could throw the ball.
It has become this prophecy that the Bears will just
never have a good quarterback. And I try to think
of myself as a rational guy, and so I'm a
Cubs fan. I never believed in curses this like win
one before I die think. I was like, yeah, they're
eventually gonna win one. And in twenty sixteen, they finally
did and it was a great moment, and I hope
they do it again this year. I think they got
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a real shop. By the way, if Caleb Williams and
Ben Johnson doesn't work in Chicago. I might have to
start believing in curses, because this is everything that should work.
Wildly talented quarterback prospect. Had a bad offensive line, upgraded,
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it had a bad coach and play caller upgraded. It
developing with a receiver in Rome of Doonsday. But you
have a veteran who's really good in Dj Moore. He
got one tight end in Cole Comet. Let's draft another
one who compliments his skill set in Colston Lovelin. They're blocking,
they're pass catching. What doesn't he have? And oh yeah,
by the way, very talented, good if not great defense.
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But he's been struggling and he struggled last year though
that was a little overblown and we'll get to in
a minute. But he's been struggling the first few days
of camp because he threw an interception and because reporters
saw him get taken off the field for Tyson Bagent
in the second string. Ben Johnson is holding these guys
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to a very very high standard that I can tell you,
frankly was not there last year. Here's how Ben Johnson
addressed the early struggles for Kallab Williams in the offense.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
I know some people enjoyed me throwing the first team
out of practice.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
Not the case.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
We got to end up.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
Executing getting in and out of the huddle a certain way,
and it wasn't that way. And we're learning, we're growing,
you know, there were some things from the springtime expected
to carry over that that was probably one we just
don't have any tolerance for anymore.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
We we got too far to go. So Caleb Williams
is not a finished product. And Caleb Williams is hurt
now reputationally by guys in his draft class already passing
him by right. Jade and Daniel's best rookie season any
of us have ever seen NFC championship game. Bow Knicks
ends up in the playoffs. First four weeks of last
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year looked like he didn't belong in the NFL. By
the end of the season, I like bo Nicks had
Bonis had twenty nine touchdown passes, the second most ever
for a rookie. Why are we talking more about bow
Knicks's rookie season? Drake may had no talent around him,
but looks good, looks competent, made some big time plays,
and the narrative was Caleb Williams was bad. The truth
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was Caleb Williams at times was bad, and those of
us hand up who said Caleb Williams was walking into
the best situation any number one overall pick had ever
walked into. We drastically underestimated one thing, and it was coaching.
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And I'm mad at myself for doing it because I
was wrong, because I was the guy who said, when
they got the rights to the number one pick, they
needed to fire Matt Eberflus, because it was insane to
believe that the guy most qualified to develop Caleb Williams
was the former Colts defensive coordinator. I was doing radio
in Chicago at the time, and I was saying, you
got a fire Eberfus, you gotta fire Eberflus, and they didn't,
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and I was like, well, it'll probably still work because
I liked the team around him, and it didn't. Jaden
Daniels had Dan Quinn knew how to be a professional.
Bo Nix had Sean Payton, one of the great offensive
minds and play callers, but also how to be a professional.
Matt Iberflus, he did not do a good job of
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helping Caleb Williams become a professional, and I think Caleb
Williams thought that he could get by on just his
talent and the talent around him and Matt Eberflus let
some things slide last year and it's come out and
I've heard I know guys on the team that they
did not like how he reacted to that loss in
the wild card game against Washington. They did not like
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how he did not take enough accountability for the lack
of time management issues in the game against Detroit on Thanksgiving,
and he didn't hold himself to enough account he didn't
hold the players to enough account Things started to slide
and it got sloppy. But it's like people talk about
Caleb Williams being on the verge of being a bust.
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I promise you you didn't watch if you think that
that's the case. He was playing with practice squad guys
on his offensive line, his play caller got fired nine
games into his rookie year. And then a franchise that
has never fired its head coach in season saw it
be so dysfunctional that they broke with historic precedent and
fired a head coach in season. That's how bad it was.
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He took sixty eight sacks and to be very clear
plenty of those were on Caleb trying to play hero ball, backpedaling,
trying to do the college stuff in the pros again,
learning how to be a pro. It was not all
on the offensive line, it was not all on the
play callers. But Caleb Williams for the first time, really
had some failure. Yeah. I know the last year at
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USC did not go exactly how he won, but he
was still celebrated. Crowns the number one pick. All of that,
he had some failure, and he saw guys be drafted
lower than him pass them by. And now Ben Johnson,
he's coming in with expectations. He is pulling him off
the field, he is demanding more. He is calling him
out in the team meeting, he is quizzing him in
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front of the room. He's holding him to a very
high standard. And I just have a very hard time
believing that a guy with his talent, who still had
better than a three to one touchdown the interception ratio
while taking sixty eight sacks, the play caller who was
fired nine games in, he ain't a bust. I don't
know if he'll become Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes and
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win MVPs. I still think that ceiling is there, but
he's not a bust Caleb with Ben Johnson, with that
talent around him, It's gonna take time, but he will
be just fine. Please do not overreact for my sanity
to an interception in a practice. Coming up next, I
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will tell you Jalen Hurts is getting properly ranked and
Eagles fans do not need to take so much offense
to everything said about your unbelievably successful football team. My
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about every interception around Caleb Williams. Do I think Cole
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Later on the Bear tons of football because we made it.
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There's a football game this week kind of in the
Hall of Fame game. But we've got a lot of
NFL to get to over the course of today's show.
But somehow someway. Even though it is game week in
the NFL, Lebron James still finds himself in the center
of the news because I did not expect to land
(01:26):
in Los Angeles to an Instagram post from a guy
I had never heard of, who was Nikola Jokic's agent
on a yacht in France with Lebron James and Maverick Carter.
I was like, Oh, okay, Lebron world traveler. Who who
among us hasn't been on a yacht in the south
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of France with the greatest offensive player in twenty years
as agent?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean, that's a thing that could happen to anybody,
And I'm like, all right, that's nice. They bumped into
each other while vacationing having some fine wine, and then
you read the caption on Nikola Jokich's agent's Instagram post.
The summer of twenty twenty five is the perfect time
to make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six.
(02:17):
Summer of twenty twenty five, that's now perfect time to
make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six. Yeah,
that's gonna have some reverberations around the NBA because everybody
seems to be convinced because the Lakers invited Luca to
dinner and didn't invite him because they are not willing
(02:40):
to trade the last first round pick that they control
to go out and make a bigger move for this
offseason to try to be all in quote unquote to
win now with Lebron, that Lebron is somehow unhappy with
the Lakers, and Lebron, by the way, has done some
things to fan fuel to that flames. Because I like
to say about Lebron, we're similar in age. We're elder millennials.
(03:04):
We grew up with the Internet. We understand what it's like.
Oh I'm gonna unfollow my employer, I'm gonna tweak this thing,
I'm gonna patrol a little bit. Lebron in his camp
is very good at controlling the message and nothing that
they do is without intent, and he drives the twenty
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four to seven sports talk industrial complex more than any
modern athlete, arguably more than any athlete ever. So he's vacationing,
He's on a yacht, this guy puts out a post
and now it becomes a story. But I don't think
Lebron is leaving LA, and it is for no better
reason than say it out loud. Lebron James Denver nugget.
(03:49):
I just don't believe it. I have a very hard
time believing. The guy who is now on his third franchise,
who has delivered LA a championship, who just got Luka
Danciic as a teammate, who they drafted his son, He's
building his forever home out here, he has all of
his business ventures out here. I have a hard time
believe believing. On that yacht they were talking about Lebron
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James going to Denver, And for the life of me,
I have struggled with understanding why we talk about Jokic
and his future in Denver so different than we talk
about Giannis and his future in Milwaukee. Again, this was
Joker's agent talking about big plans for next summer. Well,
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Yokic is under contract for this year, and he's under
contract for next year, but then he's got a player
option the year after that. And it's not that long
ago when Josh Cronkey, the owner of the Nuggets, for
some unknown reason floated the idea of trading Joker.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You remember, for us as an organization, going into that
Secon and Apron is not necessarily something that we're scared of.
I think that there are rules around it that we
needed to be very careful of with our injury history.
The wrong person gets injured, and very quickly you're into
scenario where that I never want to have to contemplate
and met to tradeing number fifteen.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Odd choice. I think we could all agree to, unprompted
bring up trading Nikola Jokich. But Yanis can't do anything
without one hundred headlines and hot take people being like
Yanis has to leave Milwaukee. When Jannis was an international
pick to a small market team who's won an MVP
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and delivered a championship and has signed multiple extensions to
stay with the team that drafted him. Nikola Jokich has
won multiple MVPs, has one championship, was a late round,
second round pick international player drafted by a small market team.
There are way more similarities to Jannis and Jokic, but
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no one ever talks about Yokic being unhappy in Denver.
What if Jokic's agent is making big plans for next year,
when for all intents and purposes, it is an expiring
contract for Jokic, because the year after is a player
option for Jokic to leave Denver to go to Los
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Angeles to play with his longtime friend Luka Doncic, that
feels to me way more likely what the big plans
could be than Lebron James being a Denver nugget for
one year. I have no idea how many more years
Lebron James is playing. We say father Time is undefeated.
Lebron James is trying to shatter expectations on that cliche,
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but to say it out loud. Test tells me it
is more likely that they're just trolling. Frankly, but that
if I had to say Jokic in LA and they
figure out a way to make that work, or Lebron
just straight signed in Denver for a year, which granted
is simpler given Lebron is not under contract beyond this
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year as we all know. I'll still take the more
difficult path and believe that it's much more likely that
Lebron is figuring out a way to team up with Jokic,
pair him with Luca, make one more run at a
championship two years from now, and then sail off into
the Sunsets, leaving the Lakers set up to be successful
after him and having that be a part of his Lakers' legacy.
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I won you the title in the bubble, maybe I
won you a second title, and oh yeah, by the way,
I set you up to have the best duo in
the NBA going forward with Luca and the Joker. So
we don't know where Jokic or Lebron's going. I got
a pretty good idea how this next story is going
to end, but it still doesn't change any of the drama.
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Micah Parsons is going to stay in Dallas. But it's
lovely to see that there's thirty one teams in the
NFL and then there's just a television producer. Because as
a content guy who loves the NFL year round, I
feel like all of us, everyone who sits behind a
microphone should have to write a handwritten thank you letter
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to Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, because love them
or hate them, we all have an opinion of how
they do business and why they are just still so
relevant and compelling despite it being thirty years without a championship,
and so over the weekend, Micah Parsons, who doesn't have
a contract, apparently has a little back tightness, but is
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there at training camp just not really participating. Jerry Jones
because for some reason, the owner of the team needs
to face the fans at training camp with a bunch
of cheerleaders behind him, had to come out and say
whatever he was saying about the new and improved team,
and he was greeted with chance of pay Micah, pay Micah,
and then he talked to the media afterwards and he
(08:59):
was like, wow, well, the chance for paying CD were
louder last year, and you know, we paid Mike, we
paid Dak Prescott. And then he got hurt. He can't
help himself because this is what he does. And Dak
Prescott last year said, you know, I just kind of
stopped listening to Jerry, which is a bold thing for
a quarterback to say about the guy who signs his check.
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But that was last year. Ceedee Lamb. Just last week,
when talking about Micah Parsons and these contract negotiations that
are playing out as publicly as any contract negotiations in
the NFL, he was like, yeah, we just don't play
in those waters with the media and Jerry.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Jones obviously playing his media game with Jerry is not
the best, is not fun, is not recommended. But as
for Micaeh, he knows what he brings to this table, honestly,
for this team, for himself, and he should get what
he deserved. And I'm not indulging any of the craziness
that they got going, but I do want Michael to
get paid soon.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And he will get paid soon. You all know how
this ends. This is just noise. Last year, Nick Bosa
got paid and then Max Crosby got paid, and for
a moment in time, oh my god, Miles Garrett was
going to be traded from the Cleveland Browns. He wrote
a nice letter and everything, and then Miles Garrett became
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the highest paid non quarterback in football and he wants
to be a Brown for life and for a while.
I mean, I'm old enough to remember three weeks ago
when TJ. Watt was really unhappy with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Oh man, they were far apart, they weren't going to
get it done. And then whila, it's amazing. With forty
one million dollars per year to rush the quarterback and
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lose Wild Card weekend can do to a guy's mood,
and all of a sudden, TJ. Watt back with the Steelers, thrilled,
Micah Parsons will be a Dallas Cowboy. He will get
another contract. He will top TJ. Watts forty one million
per year. My guess is by a decent amount actually,
just given the age difference. I don't think it's going
to be forty one point two or forty two. He'll
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probably try to get to forty four forty five million
a year put some distance between him and the other
pass rushers. And I'm sure that's the sticking point in
the negotiations right now. But I think we would be
called a media literacy test here. I think we would
all be served to actually pay attention to Jerry Jones.
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And I know it's a bold strategy, and Ceedee Lamb
and Dak Prescott have said they're trying to do different things,
but I don't play quarterback for the Cowboys. Jerry Jones
saw how this country was enamored with the Last Dance,
and he said, I got to get me one of those.
And he struck a deal with Netflix to produce a
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multi part story of the Cowboys, and it's coming soon
and we'll see what America's appetite is for a long
form documentary on America's team. It will not be as
popular as the Last Dance because we're not in the
middle of a pandemic, but they were popular in the nineties.
The Bulls were popular in the nineties. I'm sure it
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will do quite well. But when the trailer came out,
there was a little snippet from Jerry Jones that I
actually was like, Ah, there it is, thank you. This
is a soap opera three hundred and sixty five days
a year. That is his business model. That is why
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they're not in the biggest market, but they're the most
valuable franchise. They don't have the most wins or the
most Super Bowls, but they're the most valuable, most talked
about franchise. He believes, and frankly has been proven right
that the soap opera is what sells. He's the owner,
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but he's also the general manager. But they absolutely have
a general manager in Will maclay. Like nobody believes that
Jerry Jones is scouring senior boll tape, but he wants
to call himself the general manager. No owner in the
NFL calls into local radio every week. No other owner
in the NFL does a postgame press conference every week.
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They played it out with Dak Prescott, they played it
out with Ceedee Lamb, They played it out with Michah Parsons.
What does that do? Back in the day, we would
say it filled column inches. Now it fills airtime because
then Micah Parsons has a podcast and he weighs in,
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Ceedee Lamb gets asked about it. That makes a news
cycle story. The fans chant something at him, that's a
news cycle story, and on and on and on. Jerry
Jones is competitive. Jerry Jones wants to win. He just
also wants to be the most talked about. You don't
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hear the Roonies or the Maras or the mccaskey's or
anyone else doing it the way that Jerry Jones does.
But Jerry Jones's team is worth more money, so he
probably looks at it like this might cost me a
few million bucks, and that thanks for a Cowboys fan
who wants to maximize the salary cap. But he's like
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the column inches and the airtime more than makes up
for it. Because people are talking about the Dallas Cowboys.
It's a soap opera. Three hundred and sixty five days
a year. Those are his words, not mine again. Thirty
one teams and a television producer, and it's been the
highest rated TV show in the NFL for the last
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thirty years. Coming up next on The Herd, the guy
who has the most to gain, I would say, by
far if he won a Super Bowl. He got philosophical
over the weekend and I absolutely loved it. Danny Parkinson
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Speaker 2 (16:02):
Of this week, Cole Comet will join me from Bears
training camp in just under ten minutes or so. We'll
talk Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, and if the Bears will
finally have a good offense for basically the first time
in my entire life as someone who was born in
Chicago in nineteen eighty six, but every year around this
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time it's who's going to be the breakout candidate, what's
the team that's going to surprise, who's going to disappoint,
who's under the most pressure, who's on the hot seat,
And there's totally open ended. There's a bunch of different
ways you can go with any of that stuff, right,
I think, for who needs the Super Bowl win the most,
whose legacy reputation would benefit from one the most, there's
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a pretty obvious answer here, and it is Josh Allen,
and Josh Allen to me, he's a guy I root for.
I've never met him, I've never spoke to him. I
have absolutely no connection to the Buffalo Bills organize in
any way. But Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, all time greats
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who played during the Michael Jordan era. Like man, that
must have been tough. That's what it feels like. Josh
Allen is in the Patrick Mahomes era because we saw
this not that long ago. Right, It was Brady and Manning,
but there was also Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers in
the AFC. It was just a dominant thing and Ben
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Roethlisberger got his Philip Rivers never did. And it'll probably
keep Philip Rivers out of Canton, even though He's sixth
all time in yards and touchdowns. Josh Allen is the
second best player in football. Lamar Jackson made that an
interesting conversation last year when he had over forty passing
touchdowns and under five interceptions, going with full Rogers. But
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for a real body of work, it has been Josh Allen.
And obviously Josh got his MVP last year, But if
you look at the sample of five years his prime,
basically like since Josh Allen became Josh Allen. If it
wasn't for Patrick Mahomes, it would be universally agreed upon
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that this guy was the best player in football. Because
it is universally agreed upon that Patrick Mahomes is the
best player in football. And the only thing that Josh
Allen can't do is be better than Patrick Mahomes. He's
second in wins, he's second in passing yards, and he's
second in passing touchdowns. Over the last five years, with
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Mahomes being first, first, and first across the board, that
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Speaker 7 (18:57):
A lot to me, and I really appreciate him sharing
those words. But yeah, it's kind of crazy. Were you
just kind of coming out here and you're doing everything
that you can for a quick enjoyment of it, and
then you're on to the next and it's again, it's
like the MVP Awards, Like I don't look back and
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think about that night like it happened.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
It was over with, and I'll never think about it again.
To be honest, there is something that's sad about that,
But any high performer would understand. It's the journey, it's
the process, it's what you go through to get there,
because that's what actually takes the time. And then when
you sink the final potter, you hoist the Lombardi Trophy.
At some point that night ends and you just go back.
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I think it makes a ton of sense what Scheffler
said that it would relate with Josh Allen. But if
Josh Allen were to win, Like, let's just play out
the hypothetical. Let's say Josh Allen plays the Chiefs in
the playoffs again and this time he beats them and
the Bills, who are a slightly better favorite in the
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AFC than the Chiefs. That's mostly because they play in
the AFC East. But still, let's say the Bills won
that Super Bowl and Josh Allen had his Super Bowl moments,
the Super Bowl MVP, all of a sudden, he's like,
all right, I've got an MVP, I've got a Super Bowl,
I've got a Super Bowl MVP, and I beat Mahomes
on the way there. He would still be a distant
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second to Mahomes. Obviously, multiple MVPs, the three rings, the
multiple appearances. Obviously, there's nothing that could happen this year
that could have Josh Allen passing Patrick Mahomes. But at
least the Manning Brady rivalry could potentially start to creep
back into existence because Brady has the way better trophy case.
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But Peyton Manning was looked at as a worthy adversary,
an all time great, a first ballot Hall of Famer,
a truly worthy number two to Brady's number one. He
got to the four Super Bowls, he won a couple
of them. They had epic regular season battles. They both
were able to beat each other in the postseason, the
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regular season the same thing. Now it's Josh has beaten
Patrick in the regular season but never in the postseason,
and Mahomes has all of the hardware. When Josh Allen
has to look around and he's like, I'm just as
good as this guy. He has to believe that, even
if you and I don't, because if he is that
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close to him statistically over a huge sample size for
that long and he's beaten him in the regular season,
I have no reason to believe that he doesn't believe
that he can get there. And quick aside, I'm glad
that Scotti Scheffler is having his moment here. After the
open takes the Claret jug and he goes to the
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Happy Gilmore two premiere, and now Happy Gilmore two is out.
You'all need to relax a little bit. Relax with the
hot takes. I'm Happy Gilmore too. The movie's fine. You
go in with low expectations and then it clears them.
It was nostalgic. There were cameos. I won't give anything away,
but Scheffler's was hilarious. Will's Alataurus was hilarious. John Daly's
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was funny. You know what you're getting going into an
Adam Sandler movie. He's a volume shooter. Can he give
you uncut gems and punch drunk glove? Yeah, but he
also wants to put his family in friends in movies
and have a good time at hang out and do
some ridiculousness and do some dumb stuff and do some callbacks.
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It was a movie. It was fine. I'll ever watch
it again. But this was the best thing ever. Was
the worst thing ever. No, it was an Adam Sandler
movie in twenty twenty five that hundreds of millions of
people somehow will somehow watch it based on the Netflix algorithm,
and we'll all keep going on with our lives. And
you can't recreate the nostalgia of the classic from the nineties,
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but we grew up. That's kind of how it works.
So I'm glad Scotti Scheffler had his moment though, because
he's seen as this like robotic golfer and then he
was hilarious in the movie. But Josh Allen having the
ability to come to grips with being second and having
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that emotional maturity to understand I'm doing everything I can.
I have been great. I have been great in the
regular season, I have been great in the postseason, and
no one looks around very good offensive line. They transitioned
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and gave him a more balanced attack with Cook, They've
changed offensive coordinators. They have figured out a way to
consistently be great with a great quarterback, not with a
super team. Now with all pros everywhere, just on the
talent and the development and the leadership of that guy
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of Josh Allen, they have figured out a way to
put themselves in a position to every single year be
competing for a shot at a Lombardi Trophy. There is
no doubt in my mind that Josh Allen is going
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to win at some point. He's just got to slay
that dragon. And then when he does, I would say
the rivalry is on. So I hope we get Bill's
Chiefs again in the playoffs. And even though I covered
the Chiefs for years and lived in Kansas City, if
Josh Allen got his, I'd feel like he's earned it
because he's been the second best of Mahomes for five years.
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At this point, speaking of the Chiefs, there is at
us is good and we see stories all the time
now because we're on the internet and we are addicted
to football that we want any little nugget or morsel
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of information Anthony Richardson threw an interception. He's going to
never figure it out. Caleb Williams through an interception. Ben
Johnson's innovation on offense isn't working. That is just how
it works in the information age and how addicted to
football we are. And I'm not even saying that there's
nothing that you can take out of reports from training camp. Hey,
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they put lines on these preseason games. I'm not above
gambling on the Hall of Fame game. I think you
can have impact on your fantasy drafts. I'm not saying
don't pay attention to it, but judging stats or results
from practices is insane. Almost none of it matters. But
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if you want a topic from training camp that does matter,
I would give you Josh Simmons being with the ones
for the Kansas City Chiefs. Already, Josh Simmons was supposed
to be a top fifteen pick out of Ohio State
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and he broke his pateeller tendon and he fell to
the Chiefs with a thirty first pick in the draft.
And anyone who remembers the chief season last year, it
was a revolving door. Right four different guys played left
tackle for the Chiefs so much so that they had
to shift Joe Dooney they're all pro guard from left
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guard to left tackle, and now he's on the Bears.
So it became a situation where then the Eagles off
of course, dominated the Chiefs offensive line among other things
that they dominated in that Super Bowl, and it brought
flashbacks to when the Chiefs lost to Tampa in the
Super Bowl when mahomes offensive line fell apart last year.
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This was the worst offensive line of the Mahomes era.
He was hit one hundred and eighteen times. He was
sacked forty one times, four different left tackles. They lose
their left guard to the Bears. The guy they drafted
Kingsley su or Sue Matiaala excuse me, in the second
round two years ago. Now he's going to be their
left guard. But if Josh Simmons is what Josh Simmons
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is supposed to be, a top fifteen pick on a
cheap contract who immediately comes in and plays left tackle, well, now,
all of a sudden, you've got an elite prospect on
a cheap contract at left tackle. Kingsley goes from left
tackle to left guard second year in the league. Creed
Humphrey center, one of the best centers in the NFL
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under a long term contract. Tray Smith one of the
best right guards in the NFL under a long term contract.
And while Juwan Taylor frustrates people because he gets a
few too many penalties and he does that like a
little quick jump off where it feels like he's getting
a jump off the line of scrimmage that a bunch
of guys do, Jewan Taylor is a fine right tackle.
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And then they signed more the backup from the Niners,
to a healthy contract. All of a sudden, the Chiefs
offensive line, if Simmons is legit goes from huge liability,
huge weakness to massive strength. And last season the Chiefs
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offense was just not impressive. It was not impressive in
terms of points scored, obviously, but the big one that
anyone could see if you watched the game was like
where did the big plays go? And it wasn't just
like Tyreek Hill he's been gone for a few years,
Like where And it's not did Mahomes forget how to
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throw the deep ball? No? Is it all just that
the opposing defensive coordinators are doing the cover two shell
and daring you to beat him. Underneath. Yeah, that's some
of it. They were last in the NFL in touchdowns
that went twenty plus yards. Rashi Rice and Hollywood Brown
and Xavier Worthy played a grand total of zero snaps
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together last year. Hollywood Brown is healthy. We'll see what
discipline comes for Rashi Rice off the field. Xavier Worthy
had the great Super Bowl. But those three guys are
going to play together this year, and the offensive line
should be better, so that means the offense should be better.
And those are the types of training camp stories to
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me that matters. New guy in new place, rookie making
and adjustment, healthy or not healthy. When a player throws
an interception, well, did the coach before the rep tell him,
you've got to go to this route because we've got
to work on the timing. There was he playing against
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the ones or the twos? What was going on on
the offensive line, We just don't we don't know. We
don't know so many of the details of what they
were trying to accomplish in a given play or a
given drill that reporting on successes or failures or stats
or any of that just feels like a fool's errand.
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But the Kansas City Chiefs got a franchise caliber left
tackle with a thirty first pick in the draft who
we didn't know if he was going to be healthy
for week one, and he was healthy for day one
of training camp. So the guy they signed from the
Niners is now rotating on the right side of the
offensive line instead of the left side of the offensive line. Yeah,
that's a story. Chiefs offense catching up with the Chiefs defense,
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which has carried them the last couple of years. That's
a story because if Spagnolo gets the defense to be
with the defense has been, the offense gets back to
being what the offense was. That's why the Chiefs aren't
afraid of the Broncos or the Chargers or the improved
Raiders or anyone else because last year, I mean two
years ago, they won the Super Bowl, leading the league
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in drops. Last year they had the least explosive offense
in the NFL, had four different left tackles, and they
won fifteen games and made it to the Super Bowl.
So you want a training camp story that matters, Josh
Simmons getting reps. Already, forget reps. He's your first string
left tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs. That is a
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training camp story that matters. We had some tech issues
with Cole Kamett. We'll try to figure that out. But
on the other side, there's a big lesson that Caleb
Williams learned from last season and it's worth getting into.
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in for Colin on the Herd. Okay, you're gonna hear
some coping. I'm gonna just be honest with you, Bears
guy from Chicago, and everyone knows the numbers at this point.
Never had a four thousand yard passer. Only franchise in
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the NFL to never have a four thousand yard passer.
I have never had a thirty touchdown passer only franchise
in the NFL to never have a thirty touchdown passer.
It is an organization that is defined by their incompetence
at quarterback. They would say, no, we're the Monsters in
the Midway and Gail Sayers and Alter Payton and the
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eighty five Bears, and that is all true, but it
has permeated so much of Bear's lore that it almost
became folklore. It's like, well, you can't throw the ball
in Chicago, it's too windy, except for Buffalo and Green
Bay and plenty of other places that have had worse
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weather that also have quarterbacks who could throw the ball.
It has become this prophecy that the Bears will just
never have a good quarterback. And I try to think
of myself as a rational guy, and so I'm a
Cubs fan. I never believed in curses this like win
one before I die think. I was like, yeah, they're
eventually gonna win one. And in twenty sixteen, they finally
did and it was a great moment, and I hope
they do it again this year. I think they got
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a real shop. By the way, if Caleb Williams and
Ben Johnson doesn't work in Chicago. I might have to
start believing in curses, because this is everything that should work.
Wildly talented quarterback prospect. Had a bad offensive line, upgraded,
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it had a bad coach and play caller upgraded. It
developing with a receiver in Rome of Doonsday. But you
have a veteran who's really good in Dj Moore. He
got one tight end in Cole Comet. Let's draft another
one who compliments his skill set in Colston Lovelin. They're blocking,
they're pass catching. What doesn't he have? And oh yeah,
by the way, very talented, good if not great defense.
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But he's been struggling and he struggled last year though
that was a little overblown and we'll get to in
a minute. But he's been struggling the first few days
of camp because he threw an interception and because reporters
saw him get taken off the field for Tyson Bagent
in the second string. Ben Johnson is holding these guys
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to a very very high standard that I can tell you,
frankly was not there last year. Here's how Ben Johnson
addressed the early struggles for Kallab Williams in the offense.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
I know some people enjoyed me throwing the first team
out of practice.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
Not the case.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
We got to end up.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
Executing getting in and out of the huddle a certain way,
and it wasn't that way. And we're learning, we're growing,
you know, there were some things from the springtime expected
to carry over that that was probably one we just
don't have any tolerance for anymore.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
We we got too far to go. So Caleb Williams
is not a finished product. And Caleb Williams is hurt
now reputationally by guys in his draft class already passing
him by right. Jade and Daniel's best rookie season any
of us have ever seen NFC championship game. Bow Knicks
ends up in the playoffs. First four weeks of last
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year looked like he didn't belong in the NFL. By
the end of the season, I like bo Nicks had
Bonis had twenty nine touchdown passes, the second most ever
for a rookie. Why are we talking more about bow
Knicks's rookie season? Drake may had no talent around him,
but looks good, looks competent, made some big time plays,
and the narrative was Caleb Williams was bad. The truth
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was Caleb Williams at times was bad, and those of
us hand up who said Caleb Williams was walking into
the best situation any number one overall pick had ever
walked into. We drastically underestimated one thing, and it was coaching.
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And I'm mad at myself for doing it because I
was wrong, because I was the guy who said, when
they got the rights to the number one pick, they
needed to fire Matt Eberflus, because it was insane to
believe that the guy most qualified to develop Caleb Williams
was the former Colts defensive coordinator. I was doing radio
in Chicago at the time, and I was saying, you
got a fire Eberfus, you gotta fire Eberflus, and they didn't,
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and I was like, well, it'll probably still work because
I liked the team around him, and it didn't. Jaden
Daniels had Dan Quinn knew how to be a professional.
Bo Nix had Sean Payton, one of the great offensive
minds and play callers, but also how to be a professional.
Matt Iberflus, he did not do a good job of
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helping Caleb Williams become a professional, and I think Caleb
Williams thought that he could get by on just his
talent and the talent around him and Matt Eberflus let
some things slide last year and it's come out and
I've heard I know guys on the team that they
did not like how he reacted to that loss in
the wild card game against Washington. They did not like
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how he did not take enough accountability for the lack
of time management issues in the game against Detroit on Thanksgiving,
and he didn't hold himself to enough account he didn't
hold the players to enough account Things started to slide
and it got sloppy. But it's like people talk about
Caleb Williams being on the verge of being a bust.
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I promise you you didn't watch if you think that
that's the case. He was playing with practice squad guys
on his offensive line, his play caller got fired nine
games into his rookie year. And then a franchise that
has never fired its head coach in season saw it
be so dysfunctional that they broke with historic precedent and
fired a head coach in season. That's how bad it was.
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He took sixty eight sacks and to be very clear
plenty of those were on Caleb trying to play hero ball, backpedaling,
trying to do the college stuff in the pros again,
learning how to be a pro. It was not all
on the offensive line, it was not all on the
play callers. But Caleb Williams for the first time, really
had some failure. Yeah. I know the last year at
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USC did not go exactly how he won, but he
was still celebrated. Crowns the number one pick. All of that,
he had some failure, and he saw guys be drafted
lower than him pass them by. And now Ben Johnson,
he's coming in with expectations. He is pulling him off
the field, he is demanding more. He is calling him
out in the team meeting, he is quizzing him in
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front of the room. He's holding him to a very
high standard. And I just have a very hard time
believing that a guy with his talent, who still had
better than a three to one touchdown the interception ratio
while taking sixty eight sacks, the play caller who was
fired nine games in, he ain't a bust. I don't
know if he'll become Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes and
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win MVPs. I still think that ceiling is there, but
he's not a bust Caleb with Ben Johnson, with that
talent around him, It's gonna take time, but he will
be just fine. Please do not overreact for my sanity
to an interception in a practice. Coming up next, I
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will tell you Jalen Hurts is getting properly ranked and
Eagles fans do not need to take so much offense
to everything said about your unbelievably successful football team. My
top ten NFL quarterbacks Next the hurt
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