May 19, 2025 • 41 mins
Looking at the final 4 teams in the NBA playoffs
Thoughts on Brock Purdy's huge deal with the 49ers
Colin also goes into detail as to why people need to relax when it comes to the rivalry between Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark
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from now. Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong.
We have an emerging, heated rivalry in the w NBA.
Rock Purty got played. We have four NBA final teams.
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Final four teams all led my point guards, which is unique,
not centers, not wings. But Jamack, I know you love
brock Purty, so you're going to ride his coattails a
little today. That's fine with me.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I had to text you about the brock Purty deal
over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Very excited.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm officially taking Niners to the Super Bowl. Column Niners
Bills lock it up?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
All right? Well, all right, good luck with that. So
brock perty got two sixty five one hundred million guaranteed.
He basically fifty three million a year, which is the
area I worried about. Listen, I am willing to pay
quarterbacks fifty to fifty five million dollars a year that
lead their teams or that are the offense, not that
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quarterbacks that comply with it. Lamar Jackson with a great
organization and a great coach, he gets hurt. Baltimore can't
score Tom Brady with Belichick, he leaves, They fall off
a cliff. Jimmy Garoppolo got this roster to the super Bowl.
So my take is I like quarterbacks who initiate advantage,
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not benefit mostly from it. And I'm not saying he's
a smart kid that doesn't move well. But it's like
movie directors and movie stars in Hollywood. Spielberg and Creuz
are filling the theater. Many people benefit being in their movies,
and some with a lot of talent. But again, Hollywood
has a bit of a salary cap. Like there are
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budgets for movies and there are budgets for teams. So
I think brock Perty tends to be closer in talent
to a Baker Mayfield thirty five million a year than
Josh Allen fifty five million a year. And I'm not
saying Brock is the only quarterback I think's overpaid. It
does appear that Trevor Lawrence is overpaid. I said it
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at the time. I think Dak Prescott and Tua I
didn't like those contracts. I was right on both. But
you know, the critics say, well, Justin Herbert hasn't won
a playoff game either, but I think most people in
the league know he can deal. So here's what the
contract tells me. It tells me that Kyle Shanahan has
all the power. And Kyle Shanahan's looking at that contract
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and he's looking at the guy who's smart, coachable, moves. Well,
they don't play in crappy weather where Brock Purty's not
been the same guy as he has been in more
temperate weather, and he's good with it. But we all
know the more you pay TA and Dak, the less
they have around him to his O line would be
a lot better if he made thirty five million a year,
and Dak would have more weapons if he made thirty
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five to forty million dollars a year. So I've said this,
The Niners didn't really attack their offensive line in the offseason.
Trent Williams sprains and knee or an ankle, cross your fingers.
He doesn't. And brock Pertty's going to have to once
again lead the team and initiate offense. You know, it's interesting.
There's a guy that's going to get paid next. C
J Stroud.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
C J.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Stroud went to a franchise that was a dumpster fire
with a rookie head coach and a rookie coordinator and
kind of a bad team and led him to the playoffs.
And then last year, his top two receivers got hurt,
another receiver was in and out of the lineup, the
offensive line was awful, and he led him to the
playoffs again and won a playoff game. CJ. Stroud is
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somebody I would pay. Okay, again, he is initiating. He
is overcoming. Last year there was a great moment for
people to judge brock Perty. He lost Christian McCaffrey, the
team was banged up. How did he do? He was
one and six against playoff teams. So again, I think
a lot of people can drive this forty nine er
car right. Garoppolo drove it to the Super Bowl. I
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don't think there's a lot of quarterbacks could do with
c J. Stroud's done in Houston, rookie coach, rookie coordinator
O Line in the tank, Tank Dell gets hurt, Stefan
Diggs gets hurt, and he's won the division back to back.
Now you can say, well, the division isn't good. Well,
brock Perty's best year was when Christian McCaffrey, by the way,
was third in MVP voting in the Rams and Arizona.
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We're both in rebuilds, so we'll see. I wouldn't have
paid it would have. I would wanted a more team
friendly deal. He is now in the class of a
lot of big money quarterbacks. Some Josh Allen, Joe Burrell,
A CJ. Stroud next, I would have no problem paying
others Toua, Dak and Purty. I'm less comfortable. I've been
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right on Tua, I've been right on Dak. I think
I'm right on brock pretty we'll find out, but it does.
It does signify who's running the franchise. Shan Ann's like
it doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He's coachable, he
moves well enough. If we can keep him healthy, the
schedule is easy. I can win eleven twelve games with
this guy. And there's you can tell by drafts who's
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in control of the franchise. You can tell by contracts
to quarterbacks who's in control of the franchise. I mean,
Mike Tomlin is controlling the Steelers. How do I know?
They still don't have a quarterback right there's no urgency
for them at quarterback. That tells me Tomlin has all
the power right now, all the Jews in Pittsburgh. Okay,
So I think this is really interesting. And one of
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the things we talk about that we love about sports
on the show is that there's a lot of cultural changes.
Baseball has done a really good job to improve and
you know, kind of take advantage of some things and
make the game faster, and it's helped ratings and revenue.
So the NBA got into a, you know, for a
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kind of a stretch, especially when Lebron would move around
in Miami or Kevin Durant would move to the Warriors,
where you just had like three Hall of Fame players,
And the medium sized markets are the unglamorous markets. The Memphis,
the Portland's, you know, markets like that are like, well, wait,
a minute. That's not fair. And Adam Silver took over
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for the late David Stern, and there's some things he
had to eventually unpack. So I think what is interesting
with the final four teams in the NBA playoffs Nicks
Indiana both led by high eq IQ point guards, and
the two best players for Oklahoma City and Minnesota are
guards as well. Four guards lead their teams, and especially
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in the East, Why why why is this happening? Because
with the new CBA, right and all these aprons that
punish teams, you can't stack your roster with Chris Bosh,
Lebron and Wade, with Kevin Durant, Steph and Clay in
their prime. So what you're seeing is rosters with a
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lot of rotational B players. And so the point guards
who can score, Hallie can score, Brunson can score, Sga
can score, and can score. But it's the guards that
not only can finish and Brunson's become an a plus finisher,
but can elevate others, elevate role players. That's what the
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league is now, and it's happened very quickly with a
new CBA. Once Boston has to unpack some of these
guys Horford will be gone, Poor Zingles will be gone.
Drew Holiday's gone there. We thought they had a bit
of a two year head start, grandfathered in cheap code,
but they got new owners. Now maybe the owner's sold
because they saw the reality when they won that title.
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This is as good as it's gonna get. The new
norm in the NBA is roster construction and smart iq
EQ guards that can finish, but can elevate all those
B players. I mean, you look at Oklahoma City, SGA
is your a. Everybody else really plays a role. You
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saw Caruso yesterday, how valuable. Look at Minnesota it's aunt,
but Gobert doesn't score. Julius Randalls just now emerging as
a two, Mike Conley passed his prime, NOS reed defender, athletic, undrafted.
You start looking at all these teams now, Indiana's roster construction,
Okc's roster construction, Minnesota great roster construction led by guards
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now the NIXT Interestingly, they play about six to seven guys,
and so we'll see how it plays out. I think
Indiana should be a slight favorite over New York, and
I don't know what to make of Minnesota. Oka see again,
I think OKC home court advantage that will probably matter
in a Game seven. But I think we're seeing a
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couple of moves in the NBA. So Adam Silver takes
over for David Stern. He can't make all these moves. Immediately,
it had become a three ball shooting league. David Stern
was more willing to let stars accumulate in one spot,
and Adam Silver said, I don't like it. This is
going to be the seventh different champion in seven NBA seasons.
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That is Adam Silver's league. Adam Silver also either sent
a memo or made phone calls and says, I want
more physical basketball. What does physical basketball do? Physical basketball
where's teams out? Notice the shooting percentage, the feld field
goal percentage plummeted. It's the lowest field goal percentage in
like six NBA seasons. Shooters are getting hit, Shooters are
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getting leaned on, Shooters are having to defend. The scores
are coming down. So the next got a little fortunate
here where the league moved into them. But I like
what the league is now. It's more fair to more teams.
The big markets can still flourish. There's still places where
stars want to go. There's still trades that will be made,
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but it's point guards scoring, yes, but elevating roster construction
and B to B plus players around them. Here's SGA
on what he sees with his team and going forward.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
We can win no man of the environment, and no
matter the type of game. It can be ugly, it
could be pretty, could be high scoring, it could be
low scoring. It can be a lot of free throws,
it could be no free throws. Like, no matter what
it is, we can we can find a way to win.
And I think that's that's very important this time of
the year.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And I also think this when you allow more physicality
all these three point parade teams like Cleveland and Boston
and Golden State, you allow more physicality. It's hard to
be a finesse team when you're in a fistfight in
a phone booth. And Detroit was physical, and Houston was physical,
and the Knicks are physical, and and Minnesota can be physical.
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It's a big advantage. The regular season was pretty basketball.
Fill your lanes, grab the three, nobody touches, you shoot
it backpedal. That's not what the playoffs were. So I
like it's point guard led it's more physical, fewer whistles,
more twos over threes, and I like what I saw,
So J Mac, I think, I think I like Indiana
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slight edge probably OKC on depth they get Game seven
at home. Do you have a strong do you have
a strong pull either way?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, I will go Nicks Timberwolves in the finals, and
I'm not just going ups you. That's what I picked
back in October. Oh my podcast. I was bullish on
the Knicks. Obviously during the season I backed off a
little bit, but it could be a good final four.
I am curious though, seven final different champions in seven years.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I thought you and I liked dynasties because.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
In the twenty teams when it was the Super Warriors
against the Super Cabs and the Super Lebron teams, the
ratings were massive and now when we see like Heap Nuggets,
ratings are like half that.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So I thought we liked super teams in the final.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, remember, the NBA got its seventy six billion dollar contract.
Now it's up to the networks to make it work
the NBA. The players are happy, the coaches are happy,
the owners are happy, and the commissioner's happy now that
they have the bag. It doesn't matter about ratings. If
people want to troll the NBA, go for it. I've
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always said this, once you sell your house, who cares
what somebody does with it. It's not your house. The
NBA got the money, they have an eleven year deal.
Not their concern if NBC can make it work. So
and Adam Silver's take was what he was always trying.
He was much more concerned about the ratings. I knew
that from the league office. They didn't like all this
anti ratings talk. Now they don't care. They got their money.
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What they want is Adam Silver's bosses or owners half
the league. Half the owners were like, well, we can't
get Katie Stephan Clay, we can't build a roster like Boston.
We're not a we're not a huge marquee franchise. And
so he had to you know, that's that's who his
bosses are. So again, when the NFL signs of contracts,
it's up to Fox and CBS and Netflix. It's up
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to you to figure out how to make it work. Right.
So the NBA, now the ratings talk, you know, let
people it doesn't really matter anymore. And to argue that
it's not a successful league. It's a star driven league.
Hockey struggles. They don't have them, right, Like, if you
want to talk about leagues that struggle. NBA's got stars,
and it's international soccer. It's got plenty of stars and
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big brands. It'll be okay in my lifetime anyway.
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Speaker 1 (14:13):
Forty five minutes from now. Where Colin was right and
where Colin was wrong. So I said this last year
with a WNBA, people just aren't used to the heated
intensity of a great rivalry in the WNBA. They're not
used to it. In the NBA we had MJ and
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the Pistons, we had Bird and Magic, we had the
Lakers in Detroit. We're kind of used to it. And
so I think even the officials aren't quite sure what
to do and how to act. Yesterday, as Caitlin Clark
and Indiana Hammer the Chicago Sky, it was like four
and a half minutes left in the third there was
a foul. It should not have been upgraded to a
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flagrant fowl. It was a foul. And I really think
if you truly respect women's basket ball, let them play
sort of like guys. Many of the media themselves, who
consider themselves WNBA friendly, are too often patronizing and pandering rivalries,
equal ratings. Sports is better with intensity. Animosity is part
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of it. It was a physical basketball play. This is okay.
Who cares if Angel Rees doesn't like Caitlin Clark. It's
not soccer. I don't need jersey swaps, lambeerd couldn't stand in.
Isaiah couldn't stand MJ. MJ still hates Isaiah. It made
a documentary great. So I the WNBA, if you respect
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it and the league, the women are getting bigger and better.
They're just the passing, the ball handling. It's a better
league than ten years ago. Caitlin Clark obviously has jet
fuel to its popularity right now. The Fever outdraw the
Indiana Pacers, and the Pacers are really fun to watch. So,
but I didn't think this was a flagrant. This is
a basketball play, and people just aren't used to it.
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So too many people are precious and pandering and projecting,
and they're polarizing. And Angel Reese got the best of
Caitlin junior year of college. Then Caitlin got the best
of Angel senior year of college. Last year, they were
both exceptional, Clearly Caitlin's more popular. And yesterday the Indiana fever.
I mean, we're looking at like a Tiger Woods, That's
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what we're looking at here. Angel Reese is a good player.
She's not a phenomenon. Tiger was Lebron, was Taylor Swift?
Is Caitlin Clark is so But the foul, to me,
it's like, just let them play. It wasn't a flagrant.
It was just a hard foul. Here's Caitland after.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
I'm not sure what the rest saw to upgrade it,
and that's up to their discretion after watching the initial
whatever happened during the play, and then whatever happened after.
You know, we watched a lot of basketball. It's a
takefoul to put them at the free throw line. I'd
rather give up two points. You know, I've watched a
lot of basketball in my life. That's exactly what it was.
I wasn't trying to do anything malicious. That's not the
type of player I am, So yes was it anything
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like that. And I went for the ball and that's
clear as day in the replay. You watch it, you
know it shouldn't have been upgraded.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So they're not even quite sure how to officiate this rivalry.
Take a deep breath. The women are adults. They can
handle it. Basketball, college, pro, w NBA is all better
when it's a little chippy. When there's real rivalries, a
couple of scoops of animosity, it is okay. Take a
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deep breath. Even the officials now not quite sure how
to handle it. Jmack with the News, All right.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Let's get started with the Golden State Warriors College. They
obviously lost to the Timberwolves in the second round, and
there's a lot of hey.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Well, if Steph Curry were healthy, we could have had
a shot.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Steph Curry basically missed the entire series, so I don't
want to hear this aunt took down.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Steph Curry nonsense.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
However, Steph has talked about the.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Future of the team. Take a listen, Colin.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Our contracts are me, Draymond, Steve, Jimmy all two years
and we want this ride the last as long as possible.
But it's just about what is this team need for
next year? Answering those questions over the summer, everybody preparing
themselves individually to get through another eighty two game season,
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hopefully with a little bit more of a little comfort
room down the stretch where we don't have to have a,
you know, a two month gauntlet just to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I actually think we're talking a lot about Giannis and Kad,
but I'm actually interested the second tier player of signing
trade with Kaminga. He's not Katie the finisher, not as
refined offensively, He's not as dominant as Yannis. But what
does he fetch on the market for a team that
needs to be young, twitchy at Is there an old
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team like a Milwaukee Is there is there an older
team that says, you know what, we need twenty a
game from a young long guy.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
The problem with Kaminga is when playing with Curry and Butler,
he's a total non factor.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
He can't play with stars, That's right, So it's like,
what am I doing getting well?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
He can't play in the ecosystem that is the Warriors,
by the way, which has always been punitive to Wiseman,
to Jordan Poole, to a young D'Angelo Russell, to Kaminga.
He can play, but What.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Have those guys done since leaving the Warriors? And I'll
say this, by the.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Way, the Warriors don't win that title over Boston without
Jordan pool He had a phenomenal postseason. I know we
were obviously Curry was great in company, but Jordan Poole
was great.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
But none of those guys have done anything. I mean,
how many teams has the Angelo Russell been on since
leaving the Warriors. It's like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I like, I don't know what you can get for him.
My my question is Colin, like, does Kevin Durant even
consider going back to Golden State? Is he too mentally
weak to handle? Hey man, the noise is so I
don't want to go there. Like you were your best
in Golden State. That system fits.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You perfectly with Kadi. What's interesting is Phoenix wants to
get younger, right and athletic and and and we know
KD would fit perfectly into that system. But I think
as long as Draymond's around, I think it's just it
doesn't quite click. And I don't I don't necessarily blame KD.
I don't buy into he couldn't handle it. Katie proved
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he could handle it he.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Won let me retrace. Could he handle going back there?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Or would the noise be like, oh, he's going to
chase another ring?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Like at some point you got.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
To not care about that crack Colin, Who cares what
the Peanut Gallery is saying?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
You and I are in a place. You know, people
come after us all the time. I don't care what
people say.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I know you don't knowing you like, why can't KD
just tune out the noise?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Oops? You know what? I think he probably looks at
it and says, been there, done that. I certainly can't
talk what we did. And I also I listen. They
have Post, they have Moody, they have pods. I'm not
sure they need another thirty year old. I'd like to
see him get I'd like to see him get a
functional big who could play within the system.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
All right, Glory.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Market and my guy, we know he's gonna be in
high demand. Colin, let's get to Yannis. Now, this is
going to be a big deal this week. Chris Haynes
just broke the news here that the Bucks are setting up.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
A meeting with Jannis Colin.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
It's going to be very crucial about his future in Milwaukee.
Giannis has been linked to the Spurs, Rockets, and Warriors,
and there is some being a segment of the population
who thinks that the Bucks decided they saw Jannis's social
media activity over the weekend and they were like, whoa, hey,
let's nip this in the butt. Yiannis did some random
Twitter Q and A. Now I don't know his history,
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but I don't think he's ever done one. Maybe he
hasn't and I missed it, but he said the cities
that make him happiest, not basketball, just happy are Florida cities.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So we could start talking to Orlando, Magic, Miami. He
favorite place to play on the road.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You guessed it, Madison Square Garden in New York. And
Jannis continued to heap praise for one Stephan Curry all weekend.
His all time starting five Jannis had Steph Curry at
point guard.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Okay, now I.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Gotta ask you, is this Yannis playing you know, chess.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
The way Lebron does sometimes? Or is this Jannis just
answering questions?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Listen, most international players are, in my opinion, almost overly loyal.
He's been great, He's lived up to his end of
the deal. I wish he would have developed more consistent jumper,
but his numbers the last two years have been insane,
and they have let him down in roster construction. We
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said this three years ago. They're just too old, they're
not athletic enough. They're like the anti thunder. So I
don't think they've done a brilliant job in roster construction
over the last three years. So we'll see.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I this.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You know, I've said this in my lifetime. I mean,
the Baltimore Ravens and the Buffalo Bills do not have
super Bowls. They may never get a Shanahan has gotten
a two of them. They're never a super Bowl. Denver
got one, Milwaukee got one, like getting one. This will
be our seventh different title team in seven years. So
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the idea that, oh they honist thing hasn't worked. It's
been wonderful. You have been relevant for ten years, You've
got a title. Now you can set yourself up for
the next ten years with draft picks and a younger roster.
Resigning Yannis does not solve your litany of issues. And
I would argue, because of injuries, he's probably now in
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the last maybe year of his prime. Maybe he's got
two years But to me, if you get a title
like Denver, now Yoki, I think is happier in Denver.
But Yannis hes pigs, get fed, hogs get slaughtered late
to move him, Get seven picks, get four players, and
be relevant for a decade.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Colin Yanis is thirty turns thirty one in December.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
He doesn't have a lot of like injury history.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
He's got some seven foot two guy worry about the
feet like I think he's got like three or four
more years left in his prime. This guy's a physical specimen.
He keeps in his body and shape like Lebron. My
question is what if the Toronto Raptors have the best
offer for you, honest, with like six draft picks and Scottie.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Barne for whatever.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
All right, Jiannis don't want to go there, So that's
where this is going to become.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
It could get ugly, Colin, are you prepared for it
to get ugly?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Because Jannis is he willing to get in an situation
where he said, guys, I don't want to go to Toronto.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, I heard Dane didn't want to go to Milwaukee
and then he played in Milwaukee. I don't think you
can again I'm making a move you once you're not
on my team. I'm not concerned about it. Right Like,
I think they're going to move him west because I
don't think Milwaukee wants to face him. So I think
Milwaukee's gonna move him west to a Utah. You know
the teams that you know, We all know who they are.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Is he in a position Colin to call his shot?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Say I want to stay east and here are the
three teams I want to go to. Ken Yannis do
that to Milwaukee where he brought a title a.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Few years now. I don't love players controlling that. That's
like when a college basketball coach retires and makes his
son the head coach. But like you're out of the school,
you're not going to dictate who I hire as your replacement.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Final story, Let's go to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Ceedee Lamb has a new running mate for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
His name is George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So we heard from Stephen Jones last week saying the
Cowboys don't view Pickens as a number two, and Ceee
Lamb that statement saying it ain't no A B, none
of that, it's one. So Ceedee Lamb is basically saying
the Cowboys have two ones on the outside in Pickens
and Lamb, and they have the highest paid quarterback in
the league. The running back room is below average. I
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would guess offensive line has questions.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I don't I think Pickens.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I think Pickens is a number one talent. Absolutely I do.
There's no question he's gonna help Dack. There's no question
that for Dallas in the short term now short term,
maybe six weeks before he starts grumbling. There's no question
he's gonna make plays. Nobody's gonna guard him. He has
a huge catching radius. He's a unicorn as an athlete.
There there's no Now does he quit on stuff? Can
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he pout? Is he immature? Yeah? But but you know
Russell Wilson will tell you you throw the ball up,
he usually comes down with it. So there are advantages
to this. I mean, I think it. I don't even
think that it's negotiable. He'll make Dallas his offense more dangerous.
But I but I think you some times you have
to fall in like with players, not love. Don't sign
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him to a long term contract. His personality doesn't bode
well over four years and one hundred million dollars. If
you just see him for what he is, a significant,
dynamic offensive player on the sideline that can beat man coverage.
Don't fall in love, fallen like. And Dak's very good
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at feeding his If you look at Dak's career, Amari Cooper,
Ceedee Lamb, he will feed his best receivers. He'll he'll
zone in on him and get him the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
So, Colin, if we could get that Cowboys schedule on
the screen again, this just I just noticed this looking
at it.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Okay, let the audience loves when we do this.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
So Cowboys Eagles. Let's give the Eagles to win in
the opener. Okay, so Cowboys are zero to one, but
look at those next five games. Yeah, is there a
world where the Cowboys beat the Giants, go to Chicago
and September win.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Then face the Packers.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I don't think they're going to be big underdogs at home.
And then my Jets, we know they stink.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
And then Carolina so if Dallas gets it's out to
a four and two, five and one start and Pickens.
We know when they were early in the season in Pittsburgh,
when things were good, he was great. It only fell
apart late when they were terrible.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Does Pickens get locked in playing for a contract, and
all of a sudden, Dallas is a surprise team in
the NFC.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, I mean, I think Dallas is pretty predictable. I
think they'll play really well until about week eleven, week twelve,
then their schedule is brutal. I also think Brian Schottenneimer
is an offensive coach. There's an element of surprise. Then
over the course of NFL seasons, the better coaches win
and the better rosters win. Thanksgiving on Dallas's schedule has
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a lot of potential wins. Now, I don't think it helps,
and they get some of those. They get Green Bay
at home, you know that to go either way game.
The first time they face Washington it's at home. They
get Arizona at home. The schedule for the first ten
weeks into the buy is very doable, and I think
that's when they need to in six games. But I
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think at the end of the season they're facing better afters,
better teams, often on the road at Detroit at Washington.
That's where to me it gets tough. Jmck of the News, well,
that's the news.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And thanks for stopping that.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
The herd Line news listen. I saw this story. I
think it came out like Friday Boomerosiasin's a former NFL quarterback,
you know with Cincinnati. I think you won an MVP.
He's a morning show host at WFAN in New York
and he was talking about Caleb Williams and had some
pretty harsh comments. He said, the level of entitlement is
(29:40):
breath taking no one to re failed and got his
coach fired. Keep your mouth shut. You're going into the
greatest league there's ever been that we all love. You're
going to make five hundred million potentially, So just keep
your pie hole shit, go out and play football and
earn respect. Well. First of all, there are no absolutes
in the NFL. It is a collaborative business. Patrick Mahomes
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has been blown out twice in Super Bowls when he
didn't have protection. So yes, this is not a star
driven leave. Even Mahomes has no shot. Tom Brady's last
year in New England, he didn't have a receiver or
tied end that could separate. It's a collaborative business. There
are and so I defended Caleb Williams for this reason.
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There are four things that have to work, generally speaking,
for a touchdown of any length. In the NFL, you
got to call the right play. You can't have a penalty.
You got to block it right. And the eleven guys
have to execute, almost all of them execute. The Bears
for one hundred years just didn't do that much simultaneously
on offense. So Caleb Williams had every right, as his
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dad did, to be concerned about it. So when I
broke this story a year ago, it's not like they were,
you know, building up a fire wall. They kind of
knew there was going to be heavy criticism of this
came out. That's why the minute I said it that
they just weren't in love with the idea of Chicago.
The next afternoon it was, oh, we can't wait. They
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knew the repercussions of this coming out. But if you
look at since kaylab Williams has been a Chicago Bear.
To me, he's been great at the podium, he's been
a team guy, he said all the right stuff. So
since dy Won, I think he's been great. So and
for the record, Boomerosiasin has been I would say a
little political calculated in his career. He said things in
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his career to defend boomerasiasin, I'm okay with it. NFL
teams leak things to protect themselves. Arizona did it with
Kyler Murray's work habits. If stuff gets out, if you're
trying to protect yourself, you get one shot at this.
I'm okay with it, And I don't buy boomerosiasin saying
you know he got Matt Eberflus fired. Matt Eberflus on
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Sunday road games was own eighteen. He was the worst
statistical head coach ever in league history on the road.
If you go back to Eberflus's clock management against Detroit
on Thanksgiving, the radio team says live on the air,
he just got himself fired. I got nothing against Matt Eberflus.
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He is a story as old as time in the NFL.
Better position or coordinator than head coach, even not even
all of Eberflus's issues are on Eberflues. I think he's
a capable coordinator. But I don't buy into this that
Caleb Williams has been disruptive, that Caleb Williams has been talkative,
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that he has been entitled. Listen, I said this once
about a president we had. It was the first president
who had to deal with social media and Twitter and
the vile nature of it. Caleb Williams is the first
NIL superstar. He was the first college player to come
into the NFL and made more than ninety percent of
the coaching staff the first There is no playbook. I
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know Caleb, don't know his dad.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I never saw a ton of ego. There's always been
a fine line between confidence and ego. But this idea
that he's entitled, this idea, he's been disruptive. The Bears
have one hundred year history. They can't get offense right.
I said this. I think on Friday. If you were
going into out of college into the job market and
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there was this company that really liked you and they
had one hundred year history of not being able to
get your job right, would you talk with your family
about it? Would you try to figure out a way.
If you didn't have an option, they could draft you.
What do we do here? What are our options? Let's
contact an attorney. It's okay to talk about stuff. The
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fact that it gets out eventually. Everything does. Everything gets
out eventually. But I don't think this and I will
call in, you know, Caleb Williams I know a lot
of pro athletes. I don't think this is a disrespectful player.
Go find and he's had opportunities. Fine the piece of
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audio the day he signed on with the Bears forward.
That is egotistical, that is arrogant. Find it. I don't
think you can. And everybody's gotten to write to an opinion,
including Boomerosias.
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Many believe it's the greatest American sports spectacle along with
the Super Bowl. So the Knicks are now in the
Eastern Conference finals, for all, the NBA is rig crowd.
If that's the case, why it takes so long. I
think what's interesting is October through let's say April, before
the playoffs, the Knicks clearly looked inferior to Okay, see Cleveland, Boston,
(36:15):
the pretty teams, the team's up and down the floor,
three point parade, finesse teams right. And then all of
a sudden, you know, we all thought, all they have
to make a Yannis move. They got to make a
KD move. And then the NBA decided, I'm gonna swallow
the whistles more so than usual. We're gonna allow physical play.
And it moved right into the Knick styles. This is
(36:39):
what Tibbs has built. A slower pace, not three ball dependent,
a physical, starting five half court based offense. Well guess
what worked in the playoffs. So the NBA moved into
their direction. I said this for years. For years, you
could grab and clutch and hit quarterbacks above the shoulders.
(36:59):
The NFL ten years ago moved into Andy Reid's direction
and Sean mcveigh's direction and offensive coaches directions and away
from Mike Tomlin and Bill Belichick's direction. Sometimes leagues move
into you. The three ball analytics helped a lot of
smaller players who could shoot threes. It moved away from
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Dwight Howard. That's what the league did, and so I
think it's interesting Adam Silver, he's ultimately he and the
officials control it. They made moves that benefit teams with
great point guards. Jalen Brunson, slower pace, not three ball dependent,
excellent defensively, and we didn't think that in the regular season. So,
(37:45):
I mean some of the Knicks success, and this is
not a criticism, is what the league did. The league
moved into what the Knicks do. We're going to have
our seventh champion in seven years. And I will say this,
the best players for the Knicks have reasonable contracts. I
love the McHale Bridges move because I don't think NBA
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draft picks. They gave up five first round picks. I mean,
where are those picks is going to be if the
Knicks are good? Twenty third pick, twenty seventh pick, I
mean after about the Seriously, there are drafts. We're after
the sixth pick. I'm not sure what you get. You're
drafted nineteen year old kids, right, so you just don't know.
So I like their contracts, I like their players. This
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is not a one year thing. If the NBA keeps
allowing this, the physicality, the point guard led offense, it
plays right into the Knicks favor. And what I think
is interesting and kind of funny. The one coach in
the league we've criticized for, you know, only playing five
or six guys. The pace is too slow, they played
(38:49):
too physical, they play him too many minutes. All of
that feels like it's sort of moving into TIBs in
the next direction. And he talks about the next series
against the.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
They're excellent basketball team, strong on both sides of the ball.
Their ability to push the ball to defensive transition. But
when you look at their guard play, particularly with you
Halliburton and them Hart and McConnell, and they can push
and they can break you down off the dribble, So
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you've got to be very disciplined in your approach. They
can spread you out. Shiakam and Turner very talented bigs.
So we understand what the challenge is.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Listen, four teams, Minnesota's best player, a guard and Okac's
best player, and he's a good one. SGA, the Knicks
best player Jalen Brunson, and Halliburton, I would say is
the best player for the Pacers. So it is a
guard led final four. And again a lot of this
is now with the new CBA, you can't stack rosters
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with stars. So it is the ability of a smart
iq EQ point guard to elevate lots of good players,
young players and rotational players. Nobody better than Haliburton right
now at doing that. The other story today is that
brock Perty signed a massive deal. Next on deck is CJ. Stroud.
(40:16):
And I've said this, I didn't love the to A deal.
I didn't love the DAK deal. I don't love this deal.
It shows the power of Kyle Shanahan. I would have
no problem paying fifty five million for c J. Stroud.
Why because he led the change. He didn't benefit from
the coach rookie coach, rookie coordinator. Three win team goes
to Houston back to back years, wins the division again.
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This past year, the offensive line regressed badly. It's a
terrible offensive line. He got hit more. He lost Tank Dell,
he lost Stefon Diggs, he lost his other receiver. And
again they made the playoffs and won a playoff game.
So if you're the quarterback that I believe carries and
initiates the offense, Lamar Jackson, CJ. Stroud, Matt Stafford, I'll
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pay in the fifties. If I have to go to sixty,
I will if I feel you are largely complying or
benefiting from the coach and the offensive personnel. That's where
I think you should be. Closer to mid thirties or
low forties. The baker, Sam Darnold, Gino Smith area. You
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from now. Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong.
We have an emerging, heated rivalry in the w NBA.
Rock Purty got played. We have four NBA final teams.
(00:51):
Final four teams all led my point guards, which is unique,
not centers, not wings. But Jamack, I know you love
brock Purty, so you're going to ride his coattails a
little today. That's fine with me.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I had to text you about the brock Purty deal
over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Very excited.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm officially taking Niners to the Super Bowl. Column Niners
Bills lock it up?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
All right? Well, all right, good luck with that. So
brock perty got two sixty five one hundred million guaranteed.
He basically fifty three million a year, which is the
area I worried about. Listen, I am willing to pay
quarterbacks fifty to fifty five million dollars a year that
lead their teams or that are the offense, not that
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quarterbacks that comply with it. Lamar Jackson with a great
organization and a great coach, he gets hurt. Baltimore can't
score Tom Brady with Belichick, he leaves, They fall off
a cliff. Jimmy Garoppolo got this roster to the super Bowl.
So my take is I like quarterbacks who initiate advantage,
(02:00):
not benefit mostly from it. And I'm not saying he's
a smart kid that doesn't move well. But it's like
movie directors and movie stars in Hollywood. Spielberg and Creuz
are filling the theater. Many people benefit being in their movies,
and some with a lot of talent. But again, Hollywood
has a bit of a salary cap. Like there are
(02:22):
budgets for movies and there are budgets for teams. So
I think brock Perty tends to be closer in talent
to a Baker Mayfield thirty five million a year than
Josh Allen fifty five million a year. And I'm not
saying Brock is the only quarterback I think's overpaid. It
does appear that Trevor Lawrence is overpaid. I said it
(02:46):
at the time. I think Dak Prescott and Tua I
didn't like those contracts. I was right on both. But
you know, the critics say, well, Justin Herbert hasn't won
a playoff game either, but I think most people in
the league know he can deal. So here's what the
contract tells me. It tells me that Kyle Shanahan has
all the power. And Kyle Shanahan's looking at that contract
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and he's looking at the guy who's smart, coachable, moves. Well,
they don't play in crappy weather where Brock Purty's not
been the same guy as he has been in more
temperate weather, and he's good with it. But we all
know the more you pay TA and Dak, the less
they have around him to his O line would be
a lot better if he made thirty five million a year,
and Dak would have more weapons if he made thirty
(03:30):
five to forty million dollars a year. So I've said this,
The Niners didn't really attack their offensive line in the offseason.
Trent Williams sprains and knee or an ankle, cross your fingers.
He doesn't. And brock Pertty's going to have to once
again lead the team and initiate offense. You know, it's interesting.
There's a guy that's going to get paid next. C
J Stroud.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
C J.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Stroud went to a franchise that was a dumpster fire
with a rookie head coach and a rookie coordinator and
kind of a bad team and led him to the playoffs.
And then last year, his top two receivers got hurt,
another receiver was in and out of the lineup, the
offensive line was awful, and he led him to the
playoffs again and won a playoff game. CJ. Stroud is
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somebody I would pay. Okay, again, he is initiating. He
is overcoming. Last year there was a great moment for
people to judge brock Perty. He lost Christian McCaffrey, the
team was banged up. How did he do? He was
one and six against playoff teams. So again, I think
a lot of people can drive this forty nine er
car right. Garoppolo drove it to the Super Bowl. I
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don't think there's a lot of quarterbacks could do with
c J. Stroud's done in Houston, rookie coach, rookie coordinator
O Line in the tank, Tank Dell gets hurt, Stefan
Diggs gets hurt, and he's won the division back to back.
Now you can say, well, the division isn't good. Well,
brock Perty's best year was when Christian McCaffrey, by the way,
was third in MVP voting in the Rams and Arizona.
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We're both in rebuilds, so we'll see. I wouldn't have
paid it would have. I would wanted a more team
friendly deal. He is now in the class of a
lot of big money quarterbacks. Some Josh Allen, Joe Burrell,
A CJ. Stroud next, I would have no problem paying
others Toua, Dak and Purty. I'm less comfortable. I've been
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right on Tua, I've been right on Dak. I think
I'm right on brock pretty we'll find out, but it does.
It does signify who's running the franchise. Shan Ann's like
it doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He's coachable, he
moves well enough. If we can keep him healthy, the
schedule is easy. I can win eleven twelve games with
this guy. And there's you can tell by drafts who's
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in control of the franchise. You can tell by contracts
to quarterbacks who's in control of the franchise. I mean,
Mike Tomlin is controlling the Steelers. How do I know?
They still don't have a quarterback right there's no urgency
for them at quarterback. That tells me Tomlin has all
the power right now, all the Jews in Pittsburgh. Okay,
So I think this is really interesting. And one of
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the things we talk about that we love about sports
on the show is that there's a lot of cultural changes.
Baseball has done a really good job to improve and
you know, kind of take advantage of some things and
make the game faster, and it's helped ratings and revenue.
So the NBA got into a, you know, for a
(06:27):
kind of a stretch, especially when Lebron would move around
in Miami or Kevin Durant would move to the Warriors,
where you just had like three Hall of Fame players,
And the medium sized markets are the unglamorous markets. The Memphis,
the Portland's, you know, markets like that are like, well, wait,
a minute. That's not fair. And Adam Silver took over
(06:49):
for the late David Stern, and there's some things he
had to eventually unpack. So I think what is interesting
with the final four teams in the NBA playoffs Nicks
Indiana both led by high eq IQ point guards, and
the two best players for Oklahoma City and Minnesota are
guards as well. Four guards lead their teams, and especially
(07:13):
in the East, Why why why is this happening? Because
with the new CBA, right and all these aprons that
punish teams, you can't stack your roster with Chris Bosh,
Lebron and Wade, with Kevin Durant, Steph and Clay in
their prime. So what you're seeing is rosters with a
(07:35):
lot of rotational B players. And so the point guards
who can score, Hallie can score, Brunson can score, Sga
can score, and can score. But it's the guards that
not only can finish and Brunson's become an a plus finisher,
but can elevate others, elevate role players. That's what the
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league is now, and it's happened very quickly with a
new CBA. Once Boston has to unpack some of these
guys Horford will be gone, Poor Zingles will be gone.
Drew Holiday's gone there. We thought they had a bit
of a two year head start, grandfathered in cheap code,
but they got new owners. Now maybe the owner's sold
because they saw the reality when they won that title.
(08:19):
This is as good as it's gonna get. The new
norm in the NBA is roster construction and smart iq
EQ guards that can finish, but can elevate all those
B players. I mean, you look at Oklahoma City, SGA
is your a. Everybody else really plays a role. You
(08:40):
saw Caruso yesterday, how valuable. Look at Minnesota it's aunt,
but Gobert doesn't score. Julius Randalls just now emerging as
a two, Mike Conley passed his prime, NOS reed defender, athletic, undrafted.
You start looking at all these teams now, Indiana's roster construction,
Okc's roster construction, Minnesota great roster construction led by guards
(09:02):
now the NIXT Interestingly, they play about six to seven guys,
and so we'll see how it plays out. I think
Indiana should be a slight favorite over New York, and
I don't know what to make of Minnesota. Oka see again,
I think OKC home court advantage that will probably matter
in a Game seven. But I think we're seeing a
(09:23):
couple of moves in the NBA. So Adam Silver takes
over for David Stern. He can't make all these moves. Immediately,
it had become a three ball shooting league. David Stern
was more willing to let stars accumulate in one spot,
and Adam Silver said, I don't like it. This is
going to be the seventh different champion in seven NBA seasons.
(09:44):
That is Adam Silver's league. Adam Silver also either sent
a memo or made phone calls and says, I want
more physical basketball. What does physical basketball do? Physical basketball
where's teams out? Notice the shooting percentage, the feld field
goal percentage plummeted. It's the lowest field goal percentage in
like six NBA seasons. Shooters are getting hit, Shooters are
(10:07):
getting leaned on, Shooters are having to defend. The scores
are coming down. So the next got a little fortunate
here where the league moved into them. But I like
what the league is now. It's more fair to more teams.
The big markets can still flourish. There's still places where
stars want to go. There's still trades that will be made,
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but it's point guards scoring, yes, but elevating roster construction
and B to B plus players around them. Here's SGA
on what he sees with his team and going forward.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
We can win no man of the environment, and no
matter the type of game. It can be ugly, it
could be pretty, could be high scoring, it could be
low scoring. It can be a lot of free throws,
it could be no free throws. Like, no matter what
it is, we can we can find a way to win.
And I think that's that's very important this time of
the year.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And I also think this when you allow more physicality
all these three point parade teams like Cleveland and Boston
and Golden State, you allow more physicality. It's hard to
be a finesse team when you're in a fistfight in
a phone booth. And Detroit was physical, and Houston was physical,
and the Knicks are physical, and and Minnesota can be physical.
(11:23):
It's a big advantage. The regular season was pretty basketball.
Fill your lanes, grab the three, nobody touches, you shoot
it backpedal. That's not what the playoffs were. So I
like it's point guard led it's more physical, fewer whistles,
more twos over threes, and I like what I saw,
So J Mac, I think, I think I like Indiana
(11:47):
slight edge probably OKC on depth they get Game seven
at home. Do you have a strong do you have
a strong pull either way?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, I will go Nicks Timberwolves in the finals, and
I'm not just going ups you. That's what I picked
back in October. Oh my podcast. I was bullish on
the Knicks. Obviously during the season I backed off a
little bit, but it could be a good final four.
I am curious though, seven final different champions in seven years.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I thought you and I liked dynasties because.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
In the twenty teams when it was the Super Warriors
against the Super Cabs and the Super Lebron teams, the
ratings were massive and now when we see like Heap Nuggets,
ratings are like half that.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So I thought we liked super teams in the final.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, remember, the NBA got its seventy six billion dollar contract.
Now it's up to the networks to make it work
the NBA. The players are happy, the coaches are happy,
the owners are happy, and the commissioner's happy now that
they have the bag. It doesn't matter about ratings. If
people want to troll the NBA, go for it. I've
(12:51):
always said this, once you sell your house, who cares
what somebody does with it. It's not your house. The
NBA got the money, they have an eleven year deal.
Not their concern if NBC can make it work. So
and Adam Silver's take was what he was always trying.
He was much more concerned about the ratings. I knew
that from the league office. They didn't like all this
anti ratings talk. Now they don't care. They got their money.
(13:14):
What they want is Adam Silver's bosses or owners half
the league. Half the owners were like, well, we can't
get Katie Stephan Clay, we can't build a roster like Boston.
We're not a we're not a huge marquee franchise. And
so he had to you know, that's that's who his
bosses are. So again, when the NFL signs of contracts,
it's up to Fox and CBS and Netflix. It's up
(13:36):
to you to figure out how to make it work. Right.
So the NBA, now the ratings talk, you know, let
people it doesn't really matter anymore. And to argue that
it's not a successful league. It's a star driven league.
Hockey struggles. They don't have them, right, Like, if you
want to talk about leagues that struggle. NBA's got stars,
and it's international soccer. It's got plenty of stars and
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big brands. It'll be okay in my lifetime anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
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Speaker 1 (14:13):
Forty five minutes from now. Where Colin was right and
where Colin was wrong. So I said this last year
with a WNBA, people just aren't used to the heated
intensity of a great rivalry in the WNBA. They're not
used to it. In the NBA we had MJ and
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the Pistons, we had Bird and Magic, we had the
Lakers in Detroit. We're kind of used to it. And
so I think even the officials aren't quite sure what
to do and how to act. Yesterday, as Caitlin Clark
and Indiana Hammer the Chicago Sky, it was like four
and a half minutes left in the third there was
a foul. It should not have been upgraded to a
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flagrant fowl. It was a foul. And I really think
if you truly respect women's basket ball, let them play
sort of like guys. Many of the media themselves, who
consider themselves WNBA friendly, are too often patronizing and pandering rivalries,
equal ratings. Sports is better with intensity. Animosity is part
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of it. It was a physical basketball play. This is okay.
Who cares if Angel Rees doesn't like Caitlin Clark. It's
not soccer. I don't need jersey swaps, lambeerd couldn't stand in.
Isaiah couldn't stand MJ. MJ still hates Isaiah. It made
a documentary great. So I the WNBA, if you respect
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it and the league, the women are getting bigger and better.
They're just the passing, the ball handling. It's a better
league than ten years ago. Caitlin Clark obviously has jet
fuel to its popularity right now. The Fever outdraw the
Indiana Pacers, and the Pacers are really fun to watch. So,
but I didn't think this was a flagrant. This is
a basketball play, and people just aren't used to it.
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So too many people are precious and pandering and projecting,
and they're polarizing. And Angel Reese got the best of
Caitlin junior year of college. Then Caitlin got the best
of Angel senior year of college. Last year, they were
both exceptional, Clearly Caitlin's more popular. And yesterday the Indiana fever.
I mean, we're looking at like a Tiger Woods, That's
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what we're looking at here. Angel Reese is a good player.
She's not a phenomenon. Tiger was Lebron, was Taylor Swift?
Is Caitlin Clark is so But the foul, to me,
it's like, just let them play. It wasn't a flagrant.
It was just a hard foul. Here's Caitland after.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
I'm not sure what the rest saw to upgrade it,
and that's up to their discretion after watching the initial
whatever happened during the play, and then whatever happened after.
You know, we watched a lot of basketball. It's a
takefoul to put them at the free throw line. I'd
rather give up two points. You know, I've watched a
lot of basketball in my life. That's exactly what it was.
I wasn't trying to do anything malicious. That's not the
type of player I am, So yes was it anything
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like that. And I went for the ball and that's
clear as day in the replay. You watch it, you
know it shouldn't have been upgraded.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So they're not even quite sure how to officiate this rivalry.
Take a deep breath. The women are adults. They can
handle it. Basketball, college, pro, w NBA is all better
when it's a little chippy. When there's real rivalries, a
couple of scoops of animosity, it is okay. Take a
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deep breath. Even the officials now not quite sure how
to handle it. Jmack with the News, All right.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Let's get started with the Golden State Warriors College. They
obviously lost to the Timberwolves in the second round, and
there's a lot of hey.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Well, if Steph Curry were healthy, we could have had
a shot.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Steph Curry basically missed the entire series, so I don't
want to hear this aunt took down.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Steph Curry nonsense.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
However, Steph has talked about the.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Future of the team. Take a listen, Colin.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Our contracts are me, Draymond, Steve, Jimmy all two years
and we want this ride the last as long as possible.
But it's just about what is this team need for
next year? Answering those questions over the summer, everybody preparing
themselves individually to get through another eighty two game season,
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hopefully with a little bit more of a little comfort
room down the stretch where we don't have to have a,
you know, a two month gauntlet just to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I actually think we're talking a lot about Giannis and Kad,
but I'm actually interested the second tier player of signing
trade with Kaminga. He's not Katie the finisher, not as
refined offensively, He's not as dominant as Yannis. But what
does he fetch on the market for a team that
needs to be young, twitchy at Is there an old
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team like a Milwaukee Is there is there an older
team that says, you know what, we need twenty a
game from a young long guy.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
The problem with Kaminga is when playing with Curry and Butler,
he's a total non factor.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
He can't play with stars, That's right, So it's like,
what am I doing getting well?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
He can't play in the ecosystem that is the Warriors,
by the way, which has always been punitive to Wiseman,
to Jordan Poole, to a young D'Angelo Russell, to Kaminga.
He can play, but What.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Have those guys done since leaving the Warriors? And I'll
say this, by the.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Way, the Warriors don't win that title over Boston without
Jordan pool He had a phenomenal postseason. I know we
were obviously Curry was great in company, but Jordan Poole
was great.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
But none of those guys have done anything. I mean,
how many teams has the Angelo Russell been on since
leaving the Warriors. It's like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I like, I don't know what you can get for him.
My my question is Colin, like, does Kevin Durant even
consider going back to Golden State? Is he too mentally
weak to handle? Hey man, the noise is so I
don't want to go there. Like you were your best
in Golden State. That system fits.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You perfectly with Kadi. What's interesting is Phoenix wants to
get younger, right and athletic and and and we know
KD would fit perfectly into that system. But I think
as long as Draymond's around, I think it's just it
doesn't quite click. And I don't I don't necessarily blame KD.
I don't buy into he couldn't handle it. Katie proved
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he could handle it he.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Won let me retrace. Could he handle going back there?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Or would the noise be like, oh, he's going to
chase another ring?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Like at some point you got.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
To not care about that crack Colin, Who cares what
the Peanut Gallery is saying?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
You and I are in a place. You know, people
come after us all the time. I don't care what
people say.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I know you don't knowing you like, why can't KD
just tune out the noise?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Oops? You know what? I think he probably looks at
it and says, been there, done that. I certainly can't
talk what we did. And I also I listen. They
have Post, they have Moody, they have pods. I'm not
sure they need another thirty year old. I'd like to
see him get I'd like to see him get a
functional big who could play within the system.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
All right, Glory.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Market and my guy, we know he's gonna be in
high demand. Colin, let's get to Yannis. Now, this is
going to be a big deal this week. Chris Haynes
just broke the news here that the Bucks are setting up.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
A meeting with Jannis Colin.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
It's going to be very crucial about his future in Milwaukee.
Giannis has been linked to the Spurs, Rockets, and Warriors,
and there is some being a segment of the population
who thinks that the Bucks decided they saw Jannis's social
media activity over the weekend and they were like, whoa, hey,
let's nip this in the butt. Yiannis did some random
Twitter Q and A. Now I don't know his history,
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but I don't think he's ever done one. Maybe he
hasn't and I missed it, but he said the cities
that make him happiest, not basketball, just happy are Florida cities.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So we could start talking to Orlando, Magic, Miami. He
favorite place to play on the road.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You guessed it, Madison Square Garden in New York. And
Jannis continued to heap praise for one Stephan Curry all weekend.
His all time starting five Jannis had Steph Curry at
point guard.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Okay, now I.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Gotta ask you, is this Yannis playing you know, chess.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
The way Lebron does sometimes? Or is this Jannis just
answering questions?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Listen, most international players are, in my opinion, almost overly loyal.
He's been great, He's lived up to his end of
the deal. I wish he would have developed more consistent jumper,
but his numbers the last two years have been insane,
and they have let him down in roster construction. We
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said this three years ago. They're just too old, they're
not athletic enough. They're like the anti thunder. So I
don't think they've done a brilliant job in roster construction
over the last three years. So we'll see.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I this.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You know, I've said this in my lifetime. I mean,
the Baltimore Ravens and the Buffalo Bills do not have
super Bowls. They may never get a Shanahan has gotten
a two of them. They're never a super Bowl. Denver
got one, Milwaukee got one, like getting one. This will
be our seventh different title team in seven years. So
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the idea that, oh they honist thing hasn't worked. It's
been wonderful. You have been relevant for ten years, You've
got a title. Now you can set yourself up for
the next ten years with draft picks and a younger roster.
Resigning Yannis does not solve your litany of issues. And
I would argue, because of injuries, he's probably now in
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the last maybe year of his prime. Maybe he's got
two years But to me, if you get a title
like Denver, now Yoki, I think is happier in Denver.
But Yannis hes pigs, get fed, hogs get slaughtered late
to move him, Get seven picks, get four players, and
be relevant for a decade.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Colin Yanis is thirty turns thirty one in December.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
He doesn't have a lot of like injury history.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
He's got some seven foot two guy worry about the
feet like I think he's got like three or four
more years left in his prime. This guy's a physical specimen.
He keeps in his body and shape like Lebron. My
question is what if the Toronto Raptors have the best
offer for you, honest, with like six draft picks and Scottie.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Barne for whatever.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
All right, Jiannis don't want to go there, So that's
where this is going to become.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
It could get ugly, Colin, are you prepared for it
to get ugly?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Because Jannis is he willing to get in an situation
where he said, guys, I don't want to go to Toronto.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, I heard Dane didn't want to go to Milwaukee
and then he played in Milwaukee. I don't think you
can again I'm making a move you once you're not
on my team. I'm not concerned about it. Right Like,
I think they're going to move him west because I
don't think Milwaukee wants to face him. So I think
Milwaukee's gonna move him west to a Utah. You know
the teams that you know, We all know who they are.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Is he in a position Colin to call his shot?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Say I want to stay east and here are the
three teams I want to go to. Ken Yannis do
that to Milwaukee where he brought a title a.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Few years now. I don't love players controlling that. That's
like when a college basketball coach retires and makes his
son the head coach. But like you're out of the school,
you're not going to dictate who I hire as your replacement.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Final story, Let's go to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Ceedee Lamb has a new running mate for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
His name is George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So we heard from Stephen Jones last week saying the
Cowboys don't view Pickens as a number two, and Ceee
Lamb that statement saying it ain't no A B, none
of that, it's one. So Ceedee Lamb is basically saying
the Cowboys have two ones on the outside in Pickens
and Lamb, and they have the highest paid quarterback in
the league. The running back room is below average. I
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would guess offensive line has questions.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I don't I think Pickens.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I think Pickens is a number one talent. Absolutely I do.
There's no question he's gonna help Dack. There's no question
that for Dallas in the short term now short term,
maybe six weeks before he starts grumbling. There's no question
he's gonna make plays. Nobody's gonna guard him. He has
a huge catching radius. He's a unicorn as an athlete.
There there's no Now does he quit on stuff? Can
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he pout? Is he immature? Yeah? But but you know
Russell Wilson will tell you you throw the ball up,
he usually comes down with it. So there are advantages
to this. I mean, I think it. I don't even
think that it's negotiable. He'll make Dallas his offense more dangerous.
But I but I think you some times you have
to fall in like with players, not love. Don't sign
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him to a long term contract. His personality doesn't bode
well over four years and one hundred million dollars. If
you just see him for what he is, a significant,
dynamic offensive player on the sideline that can beat man coverage.
Don't fall in love, fallen like. And Dak's very good
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at feeding his If you look at Dak's career, Amari Cooper,
Ceedee Lamb, he will feed his best receivers. He'll he'll
zone in on him and get him the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
So, Colin, if we could get that Cowboys schedule on
the screen again, this just I just noticed this looking
at it.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Okay, let the audience loves when we do this.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
So Cowboys Eagles. Let's give the Eagles to win in
the opener. Okay, so Cowboys are zero to one, but
look at those next five games. Yeah, is there a
world where the Cowboys beat the Giants, go to Chicago
and September win.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Then face the Packers.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I don't think they're going to be big underdogs at home.
And then my Jets, we know they stink.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
And then Carolina so if Dallas gets it's out to
a four and two, five and one start and Pickens.
We know when they were early in the season in Pittsburgh,
when things were good, he was great. It only fell
apart late when they were terrible.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Does Pickens get locked in playing for a contract, and
all of a sudden, Dallas is a surprise team in
the NFC.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, I mean, I think Dallas is pretty predictable. I
think they'll play really well until about week eleven, week twelve,
then their schedule is brutal. I also think Brian Schottenneimer
is an offensive coach. There's an element of surprise. Then
over the course of NFL seasons, the better coaches win
and the better rosters win. Thanksgiving on Dallas's schedule has
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a lot of potential wins. Now, I don't think it helps,
and they get some of those. They get Green Bay
at home, you know that to go either way game.
The first time they face Washington it's at home. They
get Arizona at home. The schedule for the first ten
weeks into the buy is very doable, and I think
that's when they need to in six games. But I
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think at the end of the season they're facing better afters,
better teams, often on the road at Detroit at Washington.
That's where to me it gets tough. Jmck of the News, well,
that's the news.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And thanks for stopping that.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
The herd Line news listen. I saw this story. I
think it came out like Friday Boomerosiasin's a former NFL quarterback,
you know with Cincinnati. I think you won an MVP.
He's a morning show host at WFAN in New York
and he was talking about Caleb Williams and had some
pretty harsh comments. He said, the level of entitlement is
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breath taking no one to re failed and got his
coach fired. Keep your mouth shut. You're going into the
greatest league there's ever been that we all love. You're
going to make five hundred million potentially, So just keep
your pie hole shit, go out and play football and
earn respect. Well. First of all, there are no absolutes
in the NFL. It is a collaborative business. Patrick Mahomes
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has been blown out twice in Super Bowls when he
didn't have protection. So yes, this is not a star
driven leave. Even Mahomes has no shot. Tom Brady's last
year in New England, he didn't have a receiver or
tied end that could separate. It's a collaborative business. There
are and so I defended Caleb Williams for this reason.
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There are four things that have to work, generally speaking,
for a touchdown of any length. In the NFL, you
got to call the right play. You can't have a penalty.
You got to block it right. And the eleven guys
have to execute, almost all of them execute. The Bears
for one hundred years just didn't do that much simultaneously
on offense. So Caleb Williams had every right, as his
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dad did, to be concerned about it. So when I
broke this story a year ago, it's not like they were,
you know, building up a fire wall. They kind of
knew there was going to be heavy criticism of this
came out. That's why the minute I said it that
they just weren't in love with the idea of Chicago.
The next afternoon it was, oh, we can't wait. They
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knew the repercussions of this coming out. But if you
look at since kaylab Williams has been a Chicago Bear.
To me, he's been great at the podium, he's been
a team guy, he said all the right stuff. So
since dy Won, I think he's been great. So and
for the record, Boomerosiasin has been I would say a
little political calculated in his career. He said things in
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his career to defend boomerasiasin, I'm okay with it. NFL
teams leak things to protect themselves. Arizona did it with
Kyler Murray's work habits. If stuff gets out, if you're
trying to protect yourself, you get one shot at this.
I'm okay with it, And I don't buy boomerosiasin saying
you know he got Matt Eberflus fired. Matt Eberflus on
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Sunday road games was own eighteen. He was the worst
statistical head coach ever in league history on the road.
If you go back to Eberflus's clock management against Detroit
on Thanksgiving, the radio team says live on the air,
he just got himself fired. I got nothing against Matt Eberflus.
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He is a story as old as time in the NFL.
Better position or coordinator than head coach, even not even
all of Eberflus's issues are on Eberflues. I think he's
a capable coordinator. But I don't buy into this that
Caleb Williams has been disruptive, that Caleb Williams has been talkative,
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that he has been entitled. Listen, I said this once
about a president we had. It was the first president
who had to deal with social media and Twitter and
the vile nature of it. Caleb Williams is the first
NIL superstar. He was the first college player to come
into the NFL and made more than ninety percent of
the coaching staff the first There is no playbook. I
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know Caleb, don't know his dad.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I never saw a ton of ego. There's always been
a fine line between confidence and ego. But this idea
that he's entitled, this idea, he's been disruptive. The Bears
have one hundred year history. They can't get offense right.
I said this. I think on Friday. If you were
going into out of college into the job market and
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there was this company that really liked you and they
had one hundred year history of not being able to
get your job right, would you talk with your family
about it? Would you try to figure out a way.
If you didn't have an option, they could draft you.
What do we do here? What are our options? Let's
contact an attorney. It's okay to talk about stuff. The
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fact that it gets out eventually. Everything does. Everything gets
out eventually. But I don't think this and I will
call in, you know, Caleb Williams I know a lot
of pro athletes. I don't think this is a disrespectful player.
Go find and he's had opportunities. Fine the piece of
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audio the day he signed on with the Bears forward.
That is egotistical, that is arrogant. Find it. I don't
think you can. And everybody's gotten to write to an opinion,
including Boomerosias.
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Speaker 1 (35:51):
Many believe it's the greatest American sports spectacle along with
the Super Bowl. So the Knicks are now in the
Eastern Conference finals, for all, the NBA is rig crowd.
If that's the case, why it takes so long. I
think what's interesting is October through let's say April, before
the playoffs, the Knicks clearly looked inferior to Okay, see Cleveland, Boston,
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the pretty teams, the team's up and down the floor,
three point parade, finesse teams right. And then all of
a sudden, you know, we all thought, all they have
to make a Yannis move. They got to make a
KD move. And then the NBA decided, I'm gonna swallow
the whistles more so than usual. We're gonna allow physical play.
And it moved right into the Knick styles. This is
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what Tibbs has built. A slower pace, not three ball dependent,
a physical, starting five half court based offense. Well guess
what worked in the playoffs. So the NBA moved into
their direction. I said this for years. For years, you
could grab and clutch and hit quarterbacks above the shoulders.
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The NFL ten years ago moved into Andy Reid's direction
and Sean mcveigh's direction and offensive coaches directions and away
from Mike Tomlin and Bill Belichick's direction. Sometimes leagues move
into you. The three ball analytics helped a lot of
smaller players who could shoot threes. It moved away from
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Dwight Howard. That's what the league did, and so I
think it's interesting Adam Silver, he's ultimately he and the
officials control it. They made moves that benefit teams with
great point guards. Jalen Brunson, slower pace, not three ball dependent,
excellent defensively, and we didn't think that in the regular season. So,
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I mean some of the Knicks success, and this is
not a criticism, is what the league did. The league
moved into what the Knicks do. We're going to have
our seventh champion in seven years. And I will say this,
the best players for the Knicks have reasonable contracts. I
love the McHale Bridges move because I don't think NBA
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draft picks. They gave up five first round picks. I mean,
where are those picks is going to be if the
Knicks are good? Twenty third pick, twenty seventh pick, I
mean after about the Seriously, there are drafts. We're after
the sixth pick. I'm not sure what you get. You're
drafted nineteen year old kids, right, so you just don't know.
So I like their contracts, I like their players. This
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is not a one year thing. If the NBA keeps
allowing this, the physicality, the point guard led offense, it
plays right into the Knicks favor. And what I think
is interesting and kind of funny. The one coach in
the league we've criticized for, you know, only playing five
or six guys. The pace is too slow, they played
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too physical, they play him too many minutes. All of
that feels like it's sort of moving into TIBs in
the next direction. And he talks about the next series
against the.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
They're excellent basketball team, strong on both sides of the ball.
Their ability to push the ball to defensive transition. But
when you look at their guard play, particularly with you
Halliburton and them Hart and McConnell, and they can push
and they can break you down off the dribble, So
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you've got to be very disciplined in your approach. They
can spread you out. Shiakam and Turner very talented bigs.
So we understand what the challenge is.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Listen, four teams, Minnesota's best player, a guard and Okac's
best player, and he's a good one. SGA, the Knicks
best player Jalen Brunson, and Halliburton, I would say is
the best player for the Pacers. So it is a
guard led final four. And again a lot of this
is now with the new CBA, you can't stack rosters
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with stars. So it is the ability of a smart
iq EQ point guard to elevate lots of good players,
young players and rotational players. Nobody better than Haliburton right
now at doing that. The other story today is that
brock Perty signed a massive deal. Next on deck is CJ. Stroud.
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And I've said this, I didn't love the to A deal.
I didn't love the DAK deal. I don't love this deal.
It shows the power of Kyle Shanahan. I would have
no problem paying fifty five million for c J. Stroud.
Why because he led the change. He didn't benefit from
the coach rookie coach, rookie coordinator. Three win team goes
to Houston back to back years, wins the division again.
(40:40):
This past year, the offensive line regressed badly. It's a
terrible offensive line. He got hit more. He lost Tank Dell,
he lost Stefon Diggs, he lost his other receiver. And
again they made the playoffs and won a playoff game.
So if you're the quarterback that I believe carries and
initiates the offense, Lamar Jackson, CJ. Stroud, Matt Stafford, I'll
(41:06):
pay in the fifties. If I have to go to sixty,
I will if I feel you are largely complying or
benefiting from the coach and the offensive personnel. That's where
I think you should be. Closer to mid thirties or
low forties. The baker, Sam Darnold, Gino Smith area. You
can continue to watch our show on FS two. IndyCar
(41:27):
Practice now on FS one, Colin Wright Colin Wrong on
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