July 21, 2025 • 41 mins
Colin discusses Scottie Scheffler winning the Open Championship adding a 4th major championship win to his resume but calls for people to slow down on the comparisons to Tiger Woods
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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There is a lot happening, including NFL Champs opening up.
We are live. It is the Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening, we appreciate you
stopping and buy a lot of choices out there. Jmac,
it is I love my golf majors, and I especially
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love a golf major when a dominant player. It could
be Bryson Deshamba, who by the way, has last three
rounds you absolutely on fire, Rory, or a guy who
maybe not as a fast, but dominating Scotty Scheffler. So
I want to start with that, Jay MC. There's a
lot of talk yesterday because a Scottie Scheffler wins and
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really pulled away, played great early in the final round,
pulled away from the other world class golfers, and people
are saying, man, this feels like Tiger Woods. No, it doesn't.
And I love Scotty Scheffler. They have one thing in common.
Scotty Scheffler right now in his prime and Tiger in
his prime, felt like they were absolutely better than even
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the second best golfer in the world. And if both
were hitting their putts, and Tiger almost always was. If
they go into the final round with a lead, you're
not catching them. That's what they have in common. But
Tiger was much longer off the tee, and golf equipment's
actually improved. He was forty yards off the tee longer
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sometimes and Scheffler's about three to three ten sometimes. Tiger
was three sixty three seventy. Secondly, Tiger is the best
iron player I've ever seen in my life. Maybe there's
somebody better, I'm not sure. And Tiger was consistently on
the tour in his prime, unbelievable lag putter and an
unbelievable big tournament, big pot star. Scheffler's gotten way better
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at that, but he can struggle, at least he did previously.
So I mean, they were talking about Tiger proofing courses.
It was ridiculous Scheffler. Again, there's a difference. Scotty Scheffler
doesn't intimidate other golfers. He just beats them. Tiger woods,
the galleries, the fist pump. He leaned into it much
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more Michael Jordan. He'd taught you at the free throw line.
They were trying to Tiger proof courses, but you couldn't
do anything. Okay, let's make it longer. That played the
Tiger's advantage. So Scheffler is ruling golf to me. Tiger
revolutionized it. Tiger was MJ or Mike Tyson in his prime.
He intimidated other great fighters, other NBA All stars, and
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again Tiger loved it like MJ loved taunting you. Scheffler's
more Tim Duncan, reserved, avoids mistakes, fundamentally strong business like
now that he's got the putting going, if he leads
on Sunday, it's over. But Tiger made you feel like
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you wanted to go out. He had so much alpha.
You'd watch Tiger play and you wanted to go to
the driving range. You wanted to grab your clubs and
go play. I mean, Scotty Scheffler, he said it last week.
You know I don't get much out of winning. He's
a little bit of a buzzkill. I love Tim Duncan,
but he never wanted me made me want to go
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grab a basketball when I was a kid. If you
watch the great player, you'd want to go out in
the backyard and shoot. That's not Scheffler. So it's like Lebron.
Lebron got to eight straight finals, but he never felt
like he quite had the MJ killer instinct, the MJ juice,
the MJ field. I mean, think about this, they're both
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at twenty nine. Tiger had ten majors and forty six wins.
Scheffer's got four and seventeen. Phil Mickelson is a legend,
an all time great golfer. He's got forty five career wins.
Tiger had forty six in his twenties. So again, there's
a difference between ruling golf and revolutionizing it. There's a
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difference between winning and intimidating. And I think that is
when you can get into other golfers or other fighters,
or other UFC fighters' heads. That's Tiger Scott. He's just great.
And now that he's got his putting going, if he
leads going into Sunday that thing felt over by his
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third hole. You're like, yeah, yeah, it's over. I think
even he afterwards after the Open win, acknowledged that.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I still think they're a bit silly. You know, Tiger
won what fifteen majors. It's my fourth, just got one
fourth of the way there, So just I mean, it's
I think Tiger stands alone in the game of golf.
I don't focus on that kind of stuff. That's not
what motivates me. I'm not not motivated by winning championship.
I feel like what motivates me is just getting out
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and you know, getting to love out my dream.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, Scotty Scheffler's great. Tiger was obsessed, and there is
something about the athletes in our time. Brady obsessed with football, obsessed.
Josh Allen's really good. Is he obsessed? I don't know,
but but but Brady's obsession slash intensity was kind of intimidating.
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I mean, I grew up with John Elway. I was
a Seahawk fan. If you grew up and you led
in Lway got the ball, it was deflating. You knew
the outcome that was Brady. So I don't feel that
with I never felt that with Aaron Rodgers, who's good.
It's a coin flip. Will they come back and win
or not? It's coin flip. It's over. Get in the car,
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warm the car, up, start the car. And I think
that intensity of tiger is just different than anything I've
ever seen. Okay, so esbn's analytic writers, this is data.
It's not necessarily opinions driven by data. Ranked the NFL
rosters going into a season now, a lot of it's predictable.
At the top, it's Baltimore, Philly, Detroit, Buffalo, Kansas City,
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you know a lot of that stuff. Bottom, you know,
it's your Saints and your Giants and your Jets, whatever.
But what's really interesting to me is smack dab in
the middle, right, smack dab in the middle, Green Bay
Packers fourteen, Chicago Bears fifteen. Even though the Packers have
dominated that rivalry, it's a great rivalry. It is a
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great rivalry. NFC North is up for grabs. And if
the NFL between the Packers and Bears is a head
coach and quarterback league, and it is that it's Matt
Lafleur and Jordan Love against Ben Johnson, another offensive coach
and another athletic quarterback, Caleb Williams. That is great for
one of the NFL's best rivalry. And I think what
makes Caleb Williams so fascinating and why the Bears are
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going to be such a great watch. Nobody disputes his talent, arm, athleticism, escapability,
and toughness. I have a general manager in my kind
of source group who's a critic of Caleb Williams. Doesn't
know what the outcome is going to be. He acknowledges tough, big,
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explosive arm, and insanely evasive. Nobody disputes that. When it
really comes down to Caleb Williams is coachability, creative, strong.
Those are traits we know. That's great, But all of
the things he struggles with are improvable, are coachable. He
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holds on the ball too long, you can coach your
way out of that. He misses laps easy stuff. You
can coach your way out of that. Sometimes I think
he plays a little hero ball from time to time.
You can coach your way out of that. You can't
get bigger and stronger and faster. That's not gonna work.
So all of his traits are correctable and coachable. And
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I mean, I'll give you an example. Pocket presence. Well,
Lamar Jackson came into the NFL with none, and now
he's excellent. He is Lamar Jackson is not only a
great athlete, he's clearly smart and coachable. He did not
have much of a pocket presence. He just ran and escaped.
He knows what he's doing in the pocket. Now he's
a real has been for years. Josh Allen accuracy was
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like inaccurate at Wyoming, inaccurate in the NFL. Now he's
very accurate. That's coachable, size arm moving around, dynamic is
not so. When you look at bo Nicks, he's either
going to be good, which he is now, or very good.
When you look at Jayden Daniels, he's either going to
be great or a legend. There is such a wide
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range of outcomes. For Caleb Williams, it's going to be
amazing or wow, that didn't work. You have this huge
range of outcomes, and that's why I think last year
the Bears were a fascinating team. In fact, J Matt
called him the most interesting team in the league to
start the year, But it was mostly because of the
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dysfunction and the potential for an inferno, and it was
engulfed early this year. It's not about dysfunction. It's really
about the roster's good. It's as good as the packers.
The coach, he knows what he's doing. He's offensive. Oh no,
they shot up the offensive line. It really comes down
to can Caleb take to coaching, cape take to developing,
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which I think is much easier when you're less talented.
I think if you have a marginal singing voice, you
understand the value of your singing. Coach, I think is
the hardest people to coach, and they love the coaching,
but it's hard when somebody's truly gifted. Andy Reid Mahomes,
when do you pull back? When do you get out
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of the way? When do you let him do what
he just sort of does? That's hard, it's easy, and
I think Kirk Cousins knows. I'm going to follow the
playbook here, I'm going to follow the coaching. I've got limitations.
I think it's really hard to coach Mahomes. That goes
against what you think because like when do you coach
and when do you just get out of the way?
And you gotta sometimes with Caleb get out of the way.
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I've talked about this before. He had a moment against
Arizona in college. I think it was his first year
at USC. It may have been a second where he
was on the sideline. It was fourth quarter, late in
the game, may have been overtime. There are like six
Arizona Wildcats around him and it ended up being a
good Bowl team for Arizona. It was six on one
and they couldn't get it, and it was the most
It was a video game, So you know that's why.
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By the way, Steve Kerr is a great coach because
he took the coaching. Therefore he adapted a nose coaching.
Michael Jordan wasn't a great GM Magic wasn't a great coach.
Some of it's just I just got this skill and
it leads me to the right place in crisis. All right,
j Mac. A lot of things going on this week.
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Look WNBA players, Oh, I find that story actually well,
I actually I think there's a real argument that the
WNBA players are going to win negotiations. I wouldn't do
it the way they're doing it. Well, you know, the
T shirt stuff, It's not the end of the world.
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It's kind of silly, but I do think well, but
I do think there's something to be said. Even if
you lose money for a company for ten years, if
you're at the end of your ten year contract and
you finally start making money, do you want to bail
on the investment? Like it doesn't matter what they did
for the last twenty five years. In the last year,
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the growth of the wnbad to Kaitlin Clark, it's so sensational.
What are you gonna do? Bail on your investment? It's
finally paying off, you do if you're the NBA. So
I want to talk about that and also a reality.
People aren't gonna like to hear this in a certain
part of the country, but it's true and that's coming up.
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Speaker 1 (13:26):
All right, welcome back. So the Big Ten preseason media
poll came out. Now think about this. The best offensive
player in college football is a Buckeye. The best defensive player,
Caleb Downs is a Buckeye. The recruiting once again was
through the roof. Their nil money is through the roof,
and Penn State was picked to win the Big Ten.
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I think Penn State's gonna face Texas in the National Championship,
and I think this is one of those things and
it's gonna be hard to stomach for a lot of people.
The Big Ten is officially better than the SEC. It's
not just that Ohio State won the Natty last year.
It's that they humiliated Tennessee and dominated Texas. Texas scored
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fourteen points. They'd scored over fourteen points in thirty two
straight games in the SEC. They scored fourteen points the
year before. Alabama played Michigan when Michigan won the Natty.
Alabama couldn't move the ball. They had already had one
hundred yards passing. It looks a lot like it used
to eight years ago, when a Georgia or an Abama
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would face a Big Ten team and the Big Ten
teams couldn't really generate consistent offense. The defenses the athletes
were just too good. Go look at Tennessee against Ohio
State's defense. Go look at Texas against Ohio State's defense.
Go look at Bama the year before against Pennce Michigan's defense.
So I think, and I think there's a reason for it.
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And I never thought this was possible, but it should
be noted. Every national champion, every single one in the
college football era, college Football Playoff era, every one has
been ranked inside of the preseason top six. And of
the six preseason teams highest ranked, three three are Big
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ten teams. So three of the top six ranked teams,
and that tells you who's gonna win the Natty. In
ten of eleven national championships, ten of the last eleven,
the teams in the top five one of them has
won the Natty. So the Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon
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are all in the top six this year. And that's
where the national champions come from. So last year Ohio
State lost to two Big ten teams. They rolled to
sez teams. It's the eye test. I said this three
years ago. Something's changing. And what's changing is money. Big
ten schools are big, they have more graduates. It's easier
to raise money for nil You add in Phil Knight
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in the Nike money, you add in USC and the
LA economy money the big ten cities LA New York
with Rutgers, Chicago, Northwestern, Minneapolis, d C, Seattle, that's the
Big ten money is Hollywood, tech and financial centers. It's
a lot of car dealerships in the SEC, and car
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dealerships are running on raise or thin margins. So right now,
the top spenders in college football according to the on
three poll for the Top seven or Big ten, and
that's not changing. That is not changing. So when Penn
State is ahead of Ohio State in the preseason poll
and Ohio State's got a natty, a proven head coach, unbelievable,
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top three recruiting in the country, huge nil money, and
the best offensive and defensive player in the country, without question,
they're better. I mean, SEC, you had your run, but
I think at the very top, I'll take the Big ten.
Here was Urban last week on Penn State.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
The question I have for Penn State. They have two
great running backs, they have one of the best offensive
lines in the country, certainly in the Big ten. Do
they have this skill on the outside? Last year they
did not. That was not a typical Penn State receiving corps.
And I don't know if they've made it better, you know.
I keep trying to research that, and we'll see him
early in the season. But I'm hoping they have better
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skill on the outside. I think everything about Penn State
is a nationalist championship contender.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah. By the way, they went into the portal. Kyen
Hudson's one of the receivers they went and got from USC,
So their wide receiving corps should be better and more dynamic.
But it's the eye test. I can remember watching six
years ago Georgia plays a good Big ten team. Big
ten teams couldn't get around the corner. They couldn't generate
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consistent offense. That's what I've seen Bama and Georgia and
Texas struggle with against Michigan and Ohio State the last
couple of years. And I think this year the same
Penn State will just look different. They'll look like an
SCC offense and defense six years ago. J Mack with
a news No turns.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
This is the herd line.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
News, all right, coll Let's get started with the big
news out here on the West Coast. Over the weekend,
the Lakers made a huge move picking up macas smartt.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
Off the buyout market.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
He got a buy out from the hapless Washington Wizards,
and he's going to the Lakers on a two year,
eleven million dollar deal. Basically, Colin it's the same deal
that Bradley Beale got from the paper Clips.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Now.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Smart was the twenty twenty two Defensive Player of the Year,
been First Team.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
All Defense three times.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
He's had an.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
Injury history, no doubt about it.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
I don't want people freaking out though Colin always barely played.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
The last two.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Years he was on dumpster fires, and they basically just
shut him down so those teams could get higher drafted.
So let's not go overboard on that. If you look
at to take them.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
My take has always been if defense, if you are
a actionable top defender, you age very quickly. In the NBA,
Trey Young will play for as long as he wants.
Steph Curry could play forever. But if you are Marcus Smart,
how about Drew Holiday? How he aged overnight this year?
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Because Drew Holiday is putting a body on people every night,
every possession. Marcus Smart puts a body on. Tony Allen
was a great defender and then all of a sudden
he got old fast. The guys that make their money defensively.
If Katie stays healthy, he can shoot for another six years.
And that's not to say Katie's a terrible defender. But
James Harden can still score. He doesn't defend Trey Young.
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So the guys that play real defense, the reason they're
great defensive players is they get into your grill that
they are on you. And that age issue. It's like
I said, we're running quarterbacks big ben age really fast.
Brady didn't, so I'm sure you saw.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Luca was part of the entourage rolling out the red carpet.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
For Marcus Smart.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Luca also did that for DeAndre eight. Now I know
he shares an agent with him, but it's interesting Lebron was.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Not part of this process. And I was asking around
people yesterday, what do you think about this?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
The vibe I got was, listen, Bradley Beal would have
been great for the Lakers, but he doesn't help them
defensively because remember Reeves had to guard Aunt Edwards in
that series and he couldn't do that and then produce twenty.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Five and five or whatever.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Marcus Smart now will get the best guard, the guard SGA,
your guard ant Edwards like that will be his assignment
in the postseason.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
I think this is a good pickup for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Well, it's been established. You are really into team in LA.
That sign old guys, that is your that is you.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Marcus Smart's old at thirty one. Really, I mean, I
know he's got the injuries, but this is he's in.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
For the Lake.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
He again, Cam Newton and Big Ben running quarterbacks aged quickly.
You know who didn't, Tom Brady and and by the way,
Marcus Smart ages quickly. James Harden doesn't because he doesn't
put a body on people. He's avoiding contact. Marcus Smart
initiated contact. And that's the difference between top and There's
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only one way to be a great defender in the NBA.
You're either a rim protector you just swat stuff, Yannis,
or you put a body on people. You make it uncomfortable.
When you do that, it takes years off your career.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Now the last note, Colin, this is in the fine print,
very tiny.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
The Lakers had to.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Move off to guards, to small guards shape Milton and
Goodwin so they could make room for Smart. Well, you
know who this is good for, Ronnie James. Those two
guys were basically eleven and twelve. Bronnie James just moved
up a notch because they got off him. I'm telling
you he's gonna play minutes this year. End of the
rotation for Bronnie. All right, let's move on Colin to
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the Dallas Cowboys. Oh boy, Well, Guard Tyler Smith is
very excited about Dallas's chances this year. I think he's
getting a little crazy. Here's what he had to say
about the NFC.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Super Bowl champions as always expectation.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So yeah, I think that's a realistic I think it
is a realistic.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, because we can win the Super Bowl? Why not?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Why why can't we win?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Do you think it's real.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
You think prostria is in place to do that.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
I think it is in place to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Say, he's a young man. He doesn't quite know the
personnel groupings in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
He sounds like a fan, doesn't he?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Oh? Anay? Let me let me look at this. Well,
the Dallas Cowboys according to the analytic rankings.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
Let me guess twenty third, eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
But I but what's funny is they have the Steelers
night teenth in the Seahawks twenty and I would take
both of those over the Dallas Cowboys. I think the
Cowboys are much closer to the Jacksonville Jaguars and the
Raiders where they have a handful of really really good players,
but there's holes on the roster that are clear and definitive.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
I bet the Jets are higher than the Cowboys on there, right.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Jets have a lot of good young players, haven't proven
anything yet.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, the Jets actually don't have a lot of good
young players where they are. They're twenty ninth.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
They have a lot of good young players, like under
twenty six years old, but they haven't done anything yet.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We could do that later if you want.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
Anyways, final story, Colin, let's go back to the Lakers.
Luka Doncic was in a video posted on the Lakers
official YouTube page, and Donta was asked what he wants
to be known for.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
In Los Angeles. Colin, you gotta love this.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
He said he wants to be known as a guy
who brings multiple titles to lay over under one and
a half titles for Luca with the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Okay, I'm gonna ask you what do these great Lakers
have in common? Okay? Jerry West, Kobe yep Shack, Kareem Lebron, James,
Anthony Davis. What do they all have been? Common? All
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want a title with all great defensive players in their prime.
The only great all time Laker who you can't categorize
is a great defensive player was Magic and some of
that was at six', eight just the quick guys would
get around. Him but my take, is if you, look
IF i said to, you let's just talk about all
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time great Players Bill, Russell, Kareem, Lebron, James Michael, Jordan,
Kobe Tim, duncan there there is a clear definitive thread
also beyond being profound offensive, players all great. Defensively the
next tier of Players Steph. Curry maybe some would Say Larry,
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Bird i'm doctor J come, on they aren't great defensive,
players so to be if you look at the history
of The, lakers everybody thinks it's about. Flash they're great
players have almost always been dynamic defensive.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Players on the other, end, okay So, colin the only
issue with that is your list is heavy on the you,
Know Bill russell's like fifties or, whatever but a lot
of eighties and nineties the league has changed. Dramatically look
at the guys now creeping into the top. Ten Steph
curry not an all time great. Defender Kevin durant top,
fifteen not an all time great.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Defender Larry bird did Make All.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Defensive team three, Times Second team early in his. Career
i'm not a phenomenal. Defender the league has gone so
big on. Offense jokich is not known as an all
time great defensive. Player he's a top twenty player in
the history of the. Sport so if you just look
at the modern, era it's more can you get me a?
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Bucket can you get other guys a?
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Bucket AND i Think luca does that so. Well bucket,
Guy you're you're a hater On.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
LUCA i get. IT i understand you're down on The
lakers And luca mind.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Down i'm just telling you WHAT i. See The west
is loaded and young with great. Coaches The lakers are,
old don't have a lot of draft, capital and we
don't know IF Jj ruddick's. Elid it's just that's just
What i'm.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Seeing third in The, west my friend with a rookie,
coach And ad hurt And luca hurt And ad, Traded,
well come, on, COWHARD i need more.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Positivity on A, monday especially when it comes to The.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
LAKERS J mack with the.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
By the heard love thirty minutes from now on A.
Monday Where colin was, right Where colin was. Wrong SO
i am all for people asking for. Raises so let
me start with. THAT i don't have a problem with
the W nba players asking for. Arraise THE wnba is
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on a hot. STREAK i don't care about the previous
twenty four to twenty five. Years as an, investment it's
starting to pay. Off and so this week they WORE
t shirt, saying you, know making a, statement you better pay.
Us but instead of just leaving it at, that A
Kelsey plumb FOR la had to take a dig At Caitlin.
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Clark here he, is.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
Here she is the t shirt just united front was
determined this morning that we had a meeting for and you,
know not to not to, tattletale but zero members of
Team clark were very present for.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That oh, boy. LISTEN nba players make fifty percent of.
REVENUES wnba players make nine, percent and now the merch
sales are up five hundred percent and attendance is. Up you,
know forty, Percent so they're going to get a. Raised
there's no. Question AND i don't really care that the
previous twenty five year they didn't make a lot of
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money or lost. MONEY i don't. Care they're in the
middle of a negotiation and they're on a, heater so
it doesn't really. Matter i've said this. Before IF i
made an investment for five years and it lost, money
AND i got about six months left in the, investment
and in the last six months they started they started making,
Cash i'm not bailing on the. INVESTMENT i want to
(28:22):
finally get my money. Back so they're going to get a.
Raise they're finally turning a. Corner but and negotiating in
any business is all about current. Momentum it's not about
twelve years. Ago it's about current. Momentum there are. Companies
i'll give you an. Example When The, athletic which is
a subscription based sports writing, site got purchased By The
(28:45):
New York. Times The athletic was losing forty five million a.
Year they bought it for. Scale they bought it because
at the Time, biden Not, trump was. President they were losing,
clicks they weren't doing as well, digitally and The athletic
answered that bell at The athletics still doesn't make. Money
they bought it for. Scale not every company that wins
(29:05):
in negotiations or is sold is wildly. Profitable but the
projection for THE wnba going forward and the current momentum
are really really. Good so THE t shirts don't bother.
Me but why do you take a shot at the golden,
Goose Caitlin. Clark you guys were flying before she arrived
(29:26):
on one of those airlines that made you pay for
a cup of, water one of those airlines that is
the planes are the color of a. Highlighter now you're flying. Private,
okay if you're in a band and you're staying at
The motel, six and you add a band member and
now you're at the Rich, carlton keep your issues to,
(29:48):
yourself all. Right you went from a motel six in
a sketchy part of town to be four seasons in
the shopping. District stop. TALKING i don't mind THE t.
SHIRTS i think you have. LEVERAGE i think you deserve
more than nine, percent you, know but it's just misstep after.
Misstep it's time to grow, up girls like, fast like
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like this is the player that got you off the
airline that was bright, yellow, right they got she got
you an upgrade to a better hotel as a band.
Member SO i do think a lot of people are, saying, hey,
man this league has never made. Money it's an. Investment
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it's now gonna make. Money and by the, way this
is the least profitable arguably it'll be over the next ten.
Years it's only gonna get more profitable as women's basketball gets,
better as The Caitlin clark momentum train gets. BIGGER i,
mean this year she's not playing, well she's, hurt she's
not there for all the. Games so this is actually
not as great as it could. Be Like Michael jordan
(30:55):
hurt year, two next twelve years were. Legendary that's what
it's gonna. Be SO i THINK i think they deserve
a big, raise maybe not fifty percent of revenues BECAUSE
nba stars there's a lot of, them and they move the.
Needle THE wnba, stars, well there's one that moves the.
Needle and here's the other thing to, Remember Kaitlin clark's already.
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Rich she made eleven million dollars this year alone in
endorsements off the. Court so regardless of how these negotiations,
go she, said nobody else is. Right like so when
somebody joins the band and everything he gets. Upgraded just be.
Happy JUST i know you wanted your song to be
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the first one they. Played you wanted to make up the.
Set JUST i, mean it's not THE t. Shirts you're
gonna do. Fine i'd scale back on The Caitlin clark.
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Fox by the, way big news, Today The herd has
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Station AND i love. That SO i saw. THIS i
do not think this is a. Coincidence i'm not a
(32:43):
big coincidence. Guy i'm not a big fate. GUY i
think things happen due to. Choices SO espn had its
analytic writers ranked the thirty two best rosters Again, Baltimore, Philly, Detroit.
Buffalo really good, rosters all of, them, really you, know
good G but here's what's, interesting The Sean payton Effect
(33:04):
denver's at six and thirty two dead last is The
saints don't think it's a. Coincidence we all Know Sean
payton is arguably the best play caller in the. Sport
we also know he's a great play. Designer maybe Not Andy,
reid but a great play. Designer, yeah he can do
(33:24):
the personnel thing. Too So i'm gonna suggest it is
not a coincidence that The saints have nosedive in personnel
to dead last in the league, analytically and The broncos
are suddenly sixth and to, Me Andy, Reid Sean payton
And sean McVay and the hardbasser close have sort of
separated from the league in, coaching play, calling play, designing culture,
(33:47):
creation and a sense of. Personnel Colin Kyle, shanahan slow,
Down he's zero to forty three when trailing by eight
or more in the fourth. Quarter i've said, this AND
i Love Kyle. Shanahan he has a legity about his play.
Calling he gets very. Tied it's not all brought, thirty
he gets very. Tied not All Jimmy garoppolo to his play.
(34:08):
Sheet but what makes this whole thing By Sean. Payton
he's underrated at this point because everybody acknowledges The harbaughs are,
great And Andy reid is, great and Is sean mcvay's.
Unbelievable and it's, like, no, Guys i've said this. Before
It's i'm always impressed with a kid that grows up
with nothing and makes something of. HIMSELF i, mean if
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you're worth a hundred, million but you were a trust
fund kid that grew up with thirty over the course of,
time not that. Impressive if you grew up in an
unstable household and become just a millionaire of any, Level
i'm blown away by. That, okay think about what he.
Inherited Russell wilson's contract the largest at the time dead
(34:53):
cap number ever when they moved off. Him oh and
by the, Way denver also gave up two first round
picks to Get Russell, wilson so they didn't have, am
they lacked elite draft, capital and they had the worst
dead cap situation ever in a. Division With Andy, Reid
Patrick mahomes AND Gm Brett veach and The hunt, family
(35:13):
a pluses across the, board and it's only gotten stronger.
Now It's harbaugh in the. Division so he got The
broncos last year in the very TOUGH Afc, west in
the tougher conference of the, two although it's close now
THE afc to the. Playoffs with a quarterback in Bow
knicks that wasn't universally lauded coming into the. Draft they
(35:34):
looked it up this. Morning this WAS pff scouting reporter
in Bow. Nicks, NOW i Love bownicks out of. College
they did. Not they said limited, Ceiling no truly elite.
Trait nicks has a rather high floor due to his,
age but very limited. Ceiling tough to justify spending overly
valuable draft capital on him so overwhelmingly in the, league
(35:57):
Bo nicks was like the fifth most talented quarterback in the.
Division With Herbert, Harbaugh reid And mahomes and a great front,
Office bonicks gets into the. Playoffs, bonicks in, fact had
more touchdown passes and total touchdowns Than jaden, McDaniels who
Had terry, McLaurin and in a weaker division with The
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giants and The. Cowboys So i'm just, saying if you
look at the Awful, saints if you look at the
Rising broncos the, fact and this is something offensive coaches
do very. Well reid does, it McVeigh does. It Sean
payton's done. It it's something offensive coaches do better than defensive.
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COACHES i don't think it's arguable when he got not
only was the culture broken In, denver the quarterback was,
broken the dead cat money was going to be. Unbelievable
they'd given up two first round picks to Get. Russ
the offensive line was a. Mess by the end of
his first, year it was a top twelve offensive. Line
now it's. VIEWED i just saw, THIS i think ON
(37:00):
pff or one of these ranking, systems it's like the
second and third best offensive line in. Football That's Sean.
Payton that's NOTHING gm or the new. Owner that's not
a defensive, coordinator that's Not Bo, nicks That's Sean. Payton
because they couldn't get the online right for, years he
arrives it's suddenly. Great that's what McVeigh did overnight IN
la With Andrew. Whitworth it's What Andy reid has done
the last four. Years as they've Paid, mahomes you got
(37:23):
to kind of Ham An egget on the offensive. Line
you can't pay everybody up. Front SO i think we
universally Know Andy, reid The, Harbaugh sean, McVeigh What Sean
payton has, done what he's had to overcome lack of draft,
capital dead cap. Money it is. Remarkable and right now
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they're considered to have the sixth best roster in the.
League not a lot of coaches are great with. Personnel
Jimmy johnson's. Legend Jimmy johnson created the draft, board you,
know the value system that, like nobody made trades in THE.
Nfl Before Jimmy, johnson The New York giants had made
one trade EVER i think it was or maybe it
was ONE d season. TRADE i don't know what it,
(38:06):
was but nobody. Traded WHEN i was a kid growing,
up people didn't make big. Trades Then Jimmy johnson came
in the Herschel walker deal with The, vikings and Then it's,
like oh, wow you can take you can you can
really take advantage of people in this trading, Thing Colin,
Wright Colin, wrong top of the next. Hour SO J
mack has HAD i gotta tell, YOU J, Mack i've
really seen a pivot of as you age now and
(38:27):
you're growing a. Mustache Between Bradley beal And marcus smart
old guy TO la, teams you were on an old guy.
HEATER i went and looked this morning at The clippers
odds Pre Bradley beal and Post Bradley. Beal, remarkably they
did not move at.
Speaker 8 (38:45):
All what CAN i?
Speaker 7 (38:46):
Say you, know folks are not really as up on
The Bradley beal factor AS i. Am But i'll be, Honest,
colin this is one of THOSE i had to take last.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Week you were.
Speaker 7 (38:54):
Out remember Last, monday your travel staff AND i said
something To brusard during our interview about How bradley.
Speaker 8 (39:00):
Will put The lakers over the.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
Top it got aggregated over The this guy got like
three million views off me talking About Bradley. Beal all
these people coming from my, neck and HERE i, thought
you a, wise older gentleman who likes the older.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Guys you, know Uh.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Lebron who does he win with young? Guys, no, listen,
GUYS i maybe he would be on. Board, NO i
may be. OLD i don't like. OLD i don't even
like my. AGE i don't like.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
OLD i Like Oklahoma, CITY i Like dallas's young. BIGS
i Like houston's, youth even THOUGH i Thought katie was
a great. Ad WHAT i don't like is three years
ago WHEN i Said milwaukee's getting. Old when you get,
old you. Struggle first of, all you can struggle in
the regular season because your older players get dinged, up
(39:46):
take time, off so you can hurt your. Seating Oklahoma
city's young they won by an average of twelve point
nine points per game in the regular. Season young teams
get better seating young teams, generally and it's always a.
Rule in foot, basketball, baseball young players recover more quickly from,
injuries so youth in THE. Nba with the NEW, cba
(40:07):
it's not about old. Stars that's why free agency died
in THE. Nba the league now is about getting old
guys on a minimum and draft and developing your. Players
because THE cba now all the punitive apron, penalties you
can't pay multiple.
Speaker 7 (40:22):
Stars, interesting so you're saying the pivot From lebron back
in the.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
DAY i only want to win with old. Guys young
guys don't.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Win THE LA ram saying forget those, picks we want.
Veterans are you saying that's starting to change in THE? Nba,
well THE. CBA i always said.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
This David stern inherited AN nba, that Like New, York,
boston d like a lot of the big, brands weren't.
Great so his way to redo THE nba, was let's create,
dynasties let's have stars in the right. PLACE i think
he leaned into. That Adam silver inherited a different league
where there were too many. Dynasties he leaned INTO i
(40:59):
want to Hope Homa city In indiana to be. Viable
how do you do? That create a TOUGH cba where
big markets can't accumulate multiple. Stars this is Finally Adam
SILVER'S Nba hour. Two Colin, wright wrongneck
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it is I love my golf majors, and I especially
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love a golf major when a dominant player. It could
be Bryson Deshamba, who by the way, has last three
rounds you absolutely on fire, Rory, or a guy who
maybe not as a fast, but dominating Scotty Scheffler. So
I want to start with that, Jay MC. There's a
lot of talk yesterday because a Scottie Scheffler wins and
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really pulled away, played great early in the final round,
pulled away from the other world class golfers, and people
are saying, man, this feels like Tiger Woods. No, it doesn't.
And I love Scotty Scheffler. They have one thing in common.
Scotty Scheffler right now in his prime and Tiger in
his prime, felt like they were absolutely better than even
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the second best golfer in the world. And if both
were hitting their putts, and Tiger almost always was. If
they go into the final round with a lead, you're
not catching them. That's what they have in common. But
Tiger was much longer off the tee, and golf equipment's
actually improved. He was forty yards off the tee longer
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sometimes and Scheffler's about three to three ten sometimes. Tiger
was three sixty three seventy. Secondly, Tiger is the best
iron player I've ever seen in my life. Maybe there's
somebody better, I'm not sure. And Tiger was consistently on
the tour in his prime, unbelievable lag putter and an
unbelievable big tournament, big pot star. Scheffler's gotten way better
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at that, but he can struggle, at least he did previously.
So I mean, they were talking about Tiger proofing courses.
It was ridiculous Scheffler. Again, there's a difference. Scotty Scheffler
doesn't intimidate other golfers. He just beats them. Tiger woods,
the galleries, the fist pump. He leaned into it much
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more Michael Jordan. He'd taught you at the free throw line.
They were trying to Tiger proof courses, but you couldn't
do anything. Okay, let's make it longer. That played the
Tiger's advantage. So Scheffler is ruling golf to me. Tiger
revolutionized it. Tiger was MJ or Mike Tyson in his prime.
He intimidated other great fighters, other NBA All stars, and
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again Tiger loved it like MJ loved taunting you. Scheffler's
more Tim Duncan, reserved, avoids mistakes, fundamentally strong business like
now that he's got the putting going, if he leads
on Sunday, it's over. But Tiger made you feel like
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you wanted to go out. He had so much alpha.
You'd watch Tiger play and you wanted to go to
the driving range. You wanted to grab your clubs and
go play. I mean, Scotty Scheffler, he said it last week.
You know I don't get much out of winning. He's
a little bit of a buzzkill. I love Tim Duncan,
but he never wanted me made me want to go
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grab a basketball when I was a kid. If you
watch the great player, you'd want to go out in
the backyard and shoot. That's not Scheffler. So it's like Lebron.
Lebron got to eight straight finals, but he never felt
like he quite had the MJ killer instinct, the MJ juice,
the MJ field. I mean, think about this, they're both
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at twenty nine. Tiger had ten majors and forty six wins.
Scheffer's got four and seventeen. Phil Mickelson is a legend,
an all time great golfer. He's got forty five career wins.
Tiger had forty six in his twenties. So again, there's
a difference between ruling golf and revolutionizing it. There's a
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difference between winning and intimidating. And I think that is
when you can get into other golfers or other fighters,
or other UFC fighters' heads. That's Tiger Scott. He's just great.
And now that he's got his putting going, if he
leads going into Sunday that thing felt over by his
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third hole. You're like, yeah, yeah, it's over. I think
even he afterwards after the Open win, acknowledged that.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I still think they're a bit silly. You know, Tiger
won what fifteen majors. It's my fourth, just got one
fourth of the way there, So just I mean, it's
I think Tiger stands alone in the game of golf.
I don't focus on that kind of stuff. That's not
what motivates me. I'm not not motivated by winning championship.
I feel like what motivates me is just getting out
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and you know, getting to love out my dream.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, Scotty Scheffler's great. Tiger was obsessed, and there is
something about the athletes in our time. Brady obsessed with football, obsessed.
Josh Allen's really good. Is he obsessed? I don't know,
but but but Brady's obsession slash intensity was kind of intimidating.
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I mean, I grew up with John Elway. I was
a Seahawk fan. If you grew up and you led
in Lway got the ball, it was deflating. You knew
the outcome that was Brady. So I don't feel that
with I never felt that with Aaron Rodgers, who's good.
It's a coin flip. Will they come back and win
or not? It's coin flip. It's over. Get in the car,
(06:02):
warm the car, up, start the car. And I think
that intensity of tiger is just different than anything I've
ever seen. Okay, so esbn's analytic writers, this is data.
It's not necessarily opinions driven by data. Ranked the NFL
rosters going into a season now, a lot of it's predictable.
At the top, it's Baltimore, Philly, Detroit, Buffalo, Kansas City,
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you know a lot of that stuff. Bottom, you know,
it's your Saints and your Giants and your Jets, whatever.
But what's really interesting to me is smack dab in
the middle, right, smack dab in the middle, Green Bay
Packers fourteen, Chicago Bears fifteen. Even though the Packers have
dominated that rivalry, it's a great rivalry. It is a
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great rivalry. NFC North is up for grabs. And if
the NFL between the Packers and Bears is a head
coach and quarterback league, and it is that it's Matt
Lafleur and Jordan Love against Ben Johnson, another offensive coach
and another athletic quarterback, Caleb Williams. That is great for
one of the NFL's best rivalry. And I think what
makes Caleb Williams so fascinating and why the Bears are
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going to be such a great watch. Nobody disputes his talent, arm, athleticism, escapability,
and toughness. I have a general manager in my kind
of source group who's a critic of Caleb Williams. Doesn't
know what the outcome is going to be. He acknowledges tough, big,
(07:29):
explosive arm, and insanely evasive. Nobody disputes that. When it
really comes down to Caleb Williams is coachability, creative, strong.
Those are traits we know. That's great, But all of
the things he struggles with are improvable, are coachable. He
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holds on the ball too long, you can coach your
way out of that. He misses laps easy stuff. You
can coach your way out of that. Sometimes I think
he plays a little hero ball from time to time.
You can coach your way out of that. You can't
get bigger and stronger and faster. That's not gonna work.
So all of his traits are correctable and coachable. And
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I mean, I'll give you an example. Pocket presence. Well,
Lamar Jackson came into the NFL with none, and now
he's excellent. He is Lamar Jackson is not only a
great athlete, he's clearly smart and coachable. He did not
have much of a pocket presence. He just ran and escaped.
He knows what he's doing in the pocket. Now he's
a real has been for years. Josh Allen accuracy was
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like inaccurate at Wyoming, inaccurate in the NFL. Now he's
very accurate. That's coachable, size arm moving around, dynamic is
not so. When you look at bo Nicks, he's either
going to be good, which he is now, or very good.
When you look at Jayden Daniels, he's either going to
be great or a legend. There is such a wide
(08:57):
range of outcomes. For Caleb Williams, it's going to be
amazing or wow, that didn't work. You have this huge
range of outcomes, and that's why I think last year
the Bears were a fascinating team. In fact, J Matt
called him the most interesting team in the league to
start the year, But it was mostly because of the
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dysfunction and the potential for an inferno, and it was
engulfed early this year. It's not about dysfunction. It's really
about the roster's good. It's as good as the packers.
The coach, he knows what he's doing. He's offensive. Oh no,
they shot up the offensive line. It really comes down
to can Caleb take to coaching, cape take to developing,
(09:43):
which I think is much easier when you're less talented.
I think if you have a marginal singing voice, you
understand the value of your singing. Coach, I think is
the hardest people to coach, and they love the coaching,
but it's hard when somebody's truly gifted. Andy Reid Mahomes,
when do you pull back? When do you get out
(10:03):
of the way? When do you let him do what
he just sort of does? That's hard, it's easy, and
I think Kirk Cousins knows. I'm going to follow the
playbook here, I'm going to follow the coaching. I've got limitations.
I think it's really hard to coach Mahomes. That goes
against what you think because like when do you coach
and when do you just get out of the way?
And you gotta sometimes with Caleb get out of the way.
(10:26):
I've talked about this before. He had a moment against
Arizona in college. I think it was his first year
at USC. It may have been a second where he
was on the sideline. It was fourth quarter, late in
the game, may have been overtime. There are like six
Arizona Wildcats around him and it ended up being a
good Bowl team for Arizona. It was six on one
and they couldn't get it, and it was the most
It was a video game, So you know that's why.
(10:47):
By the way, Steve Kerr is a great coach because
he took the coaching. Therefore he adapted a nose coaching.
Michael Jordan wasn't a great GM Magic wasn't a great coach.
Some of it's just I just got this skill and
it leads me to the right place in crisis. All right,
j Mac. A lot of things going on this week.
(11:09):
Look WNBA players, Oh, I find that story actually well,
I actually I think there's a real argument that the
WNBA players are going to win negotiations. I wouldn't do
it the way they're doing it. Well, you know, the
T shirt stuff, It's not the end of the world.
(11:30):
It's kind of silly, but I do think well, but
I do think there's something to be said. Even if
you lose money for a company for ten years, if
you're at the end of your ten year contract and
you finally start making money, do you want to bail
on the investment? Like it doesn't matter what they did
for the last twenty five years. In the last year,
(11:51):
the growth of the wnbad to Kaitlin Clark, it's so sensational.
What are you gonna do? Bail on your investment? It's
finally paying off, you do if you're the NBA. So
I want to talk about that and also a reality.
People aren't gonna like to hear this in a certain
part of the country, but it's true and that's coming up.
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Speaker 1 (13:26):
All right, welcome back. So the Big Ten preseason media
poll came out. Now think about this. The best offensive
player in college football is a Buckeye. The best defensive player,
Caleb Downs is a Buckeye. The recruiting once again was
through the roof. Their nil money is through the roof,
and Penn State was picked to win the Big Ten.
(13:48):
I think Penn State's gonna face Texas in the National Championship,
and I think this is one of those things and
it's gonna be hard to stomach for a lot of people.
The Big Ten is officially better than the SEC. It's
not just that Ohio State won the Natty last year.
It's that they humiliated Tennessee and dominated Texas. Texas scored
(14:10):
fourteen points. They'd scored over fourteen points in thirty two
straight games in the SEC. They scored fourteen points the
year before. Alabama played Michigan when Michigan won the Natty.
Alabama couldn't move the ball. They had already had one
hundred yards passing. It looks a lot like it used
to eight years ago, when a Georgia or an Abama
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would face a Big Ten team and the Big Ten
teams couldn't really generate consistent offense. The defenses the athletes
were just too good. Go look at Tennessee against Ohio
State's defense. Go look at Texas against Ohio State's defense.
Go look at Bama the year before against Pennce Michigan's defense.
So I think, and I think there's a reason for it.
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And I never thought this was possible, but it should
be noted. Every national champion, every single one in the
college football era, college Football Playoff era, every one has
been ranked inside of the preseason top six. And of
the six preseason teams highest ranked, three three are Big
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ten teams. So three of the top six ranked teams,
and that tells you who's gonna win the Natty. In
ten of eleven national championships, ten of the last eleven,
the teams in the top five one of them has
won the Natty. So the Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon
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are all in the top six this year. And that's
where the national champions come from. So last year Ohio
State lost to two Big ten teams. They rolled to
sez teams. It's the eye test. I said this three
years ago. Something's changing. And what's changing is money. Big
ten schools are big, they have more graduates. It's easier
to raise money for nil You add in Phil Knight
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in the Nike money, you add in USC and the
LA economy money the big ten cities LA New York
with Rutgers, Chicago, Northwestern, Minneapolis, d C, Seattle, that's the
Big ten money is Hollywood, tech and financial centers. It's
a lot of car dealerships in the SEC, and car
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dealerships are running on raise or thin margins. So right now,
the top spenders in college football according to the on
three poll for the Top seven or Big ten, and
that's not changing. That is not changing. So when Penn
State is ahead of Ohio State in the preseason poll
and Ohio State's got a natty, a proven head coach, unbelievable,
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top three recruiting in the country, huge nil money, and
the best offensive and defensive player in the country, without question,
they're better. I mean, SEC, you had your run, but
I think at the very top, I'll take the Big ten.
Here was Urban last week on Penn State.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
The question I have for Penn State. They have two
great running backs, they have one of the best offensive
lines in the country, certainly in the Big ten. Do
they have this skill on the outside? Last year they
did not. That was not a typical Penn State receiving corps.
And I don't know if they've made it better, you know.
I keep trying to research that, and we'll see him
early in the season. But I'm hoping they have better
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skill on the outside. I think everything about Penn State
is a nationalist championship contender.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah. By the way, they went into the portal. Kyen
Hudson's one of the receivers they went and got from USC,
So their wide receiving corps should be better and more dynamic.
But it's the eye test. I can remember watching six
years ago Georgia plays a good Big ten team. Big
ten teams couldn't get around the corner. They couldn't generate
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consistent offense. That's what I've seen Bama and Georgia and
Texas struggle with against Michigan and Ohio State the last
couple of years. And I think this year the same
Penn State will just look different. They'll look like an
SCC offense and defense six years ago. J Mack with
a news No turns.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
This is the herd line.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
News, all right, coll Let's get started with the big
news out here on the West Coast. Over the weekend,
the Lakers made a huge move picking up macas smartt.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
Off the buyout market.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
He got a buy out from the hapless Washington Wizards,
and he's going to the Lakers on a two year,
eleven million dollar deal. Basically, Colin it's the same deal
that Bradley Beale got from the paper Clips.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Now.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Smart was the twenty twenty two Defensive Player of the Year,
been First Team.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
All Defense three times.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
He's had an.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
Injury history, no doubt about it.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
I don't want people freaking out though Colin always barely played.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
The last two.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Years he was on dumpster fires, and they basically just
shut him down so those teams could get higher drafted.
So let's not go overboard on that. If you look
at to take them.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
My take has always been if defense, if you are
a actionable top defender, you age very quickly. In the NBA,
Trey Young will play for as long as he wants.
Steph Curry could play forever. But if you are Marcus Smart,
how about Drew Holiday? How he aged overnight this year?
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Because Drew Holiday is putting a body on people every night,
every possession. Marcus Smart puts a body on. Tony Allen
was a great defender and then all of a sudden
he got old fast. The guys that make their money defensively.
If Katie stays healthy, he can shoot for another six years.
And that's not to say Katie's a terrible defender. But
James Harden can still score. He doesn't defend Trey Young.
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So the guys that play real defense, the reason they're
great defensive players is they get into your grill that
they are on you. And that age issue. It's like
I said, we're running quarterbacks big ben age really fast.
Brady didn't, so I'm sure you saw.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Luca was part of the entourage rolling out the red carpet.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
For Marcus Smart.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Luca also did that for DeAndre eight. Now I know
he shares an agent with him, but it's interesting Lebron was.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Not part of this process. And I was asking around
people yesterday, what do you think about this?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
The vibe I got was, listen, Bradley Beal would have
been great for the Lakers, but he doesn't help them
defensively because remember Reeves had to guard Aunt Edwards in
that series and he couldn't do that and then produce twenty.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Five and five or whatever.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Marcus Smart now will get the best guard, the guard SGA,
your guard ant Edwards like that will be his assignment
in the postseason.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
I think this is a good pickup for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Well, it's been established. You are really into team in LA.
That sign old guys, that is your that is you.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Marcus Smart's old at thirty one. Really, I mean, I
know he's got the injuries, but this is he's in.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
For the Lake.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
He again, Cam Newton and Big Ben running quarterbacks aged quickly.
You know who didn't, Tom Brady and and by the way,
Marcus Smart ages quickly. James Harden doesn't because he doesn't
put a body on people. He's avoiding contact. Marcus Smart
initiated contact. And that's the difference between top and There's
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only one way to be a great defender in the NBA.
You're either a rim protector you just swat stuff, Yannis,
or you put a body on people. You make it uncomfortable.
When you do that, it takes years off your career.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Now the last note, Colin, this is in the fine print,
very tiny.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
The Lakers had to.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Move off to guards, to small guards shape Milton and
Goodwin so they could make room for Smart. Well, you
know who this is good for, Ronnie James. Those two
guys were basically eleven and twelve. Bronnie James just moved
up a notch because they got off him. I'm telling
you he's gonna play minutes this year. End of the
rotation for Bronnie. All right, let's move on Colin to
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the Dallas Cowboys. Oh boy, Well, Guard Tyler Smith is
very excited about Dallas's chances this year. I think he's
getting a little crazy. Here's what he had to say
about the NFC.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Super Bowl champions as always expectation.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So yeah, I think that's a realistic I think it
is a realistic.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, because we can win the Super Bowl? Why not?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Why why can't we win?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Do you think it's real.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
You think prostria is in place to do that.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
I think it is in place to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Say, he's a young man. He doesn't quite know the
personnel groupings in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
He sounds like a fan, doesn't he?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Oh? Anay? Let me let me look at this. Well,
the Dallas Cowboys according to the analytic rankings.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
Let me guess twenty third, eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
But I but what's funny is they have the Steelers
night teenth in the Seahawks twenty and I would take
both of those over the Dallas Cowboys. I think the
Cowboys are much closer to the Jacksonville Jaguars and the
Raiders where they have a handful of really really good players,
but there's holes on the roster that are clear and definitive.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
I bet the Jets are higher than the Cowboys on there, right.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Jets have a lot of good young players, haven't proven
anything yet.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, the Jets actually don't have a lot of good
young players where they are. They're twenty ninth.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
They have a lot of good young players, like under
twenty six years old, but they haven't done anything yet.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We could do that later if you want.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
Anyways, final story, Colin, let's go back to the Lakers.
Luka Doncic was in a video posted on the Lakers
official YouTube page, and Donta was asked what he wants
to be known for.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
In Los Angeles. Colin, you gotta love this.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
He said he wants to be known as a guy
who brings multiple titles to lay over under one and
a half titles for Luca with the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Okay, I'm gonna ask you what do these great Lakers
have in common? Okay? Jerry West, Kobe yep Shack, Kareem Lebron, James,
Anthony Davis. What do they all have been? Common? All
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want a title with all great defensive players in their prime.
The only great all time Laker who you can't categorize
is a great defensive player was Magic and some of
that was at six', eight just the quick guys would
get around. Him but my take, is if you, look
IF i said to, you let's just talk about all
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time great Players Bill, Russell, Kareem, Lebron, James Michael, Jordan,
Kobe Tim, duncan there there is a clear definitive thread
also beyond being profound offensive, players all great. Defensively the
next tier of Players Steph. Curry maybe some would Say Larry,
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Bird i'm doctor J come, on they aren't great defensive,
players so to be if you look at the history
of The, lakers everybody thinks it's about. Flash they're great
players have almost always been dynamic defensive.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Players on the other, end, okay So, colin the only
issue with that is your list is heavy on the you,
Know Bill russell's like fifties or, whatever but a lot
of eighties and nineties the league has changed. Dramatically look
at the guys now creeping into the top. Ten Steph
curry not an all time great. Defender Kevin durant top,
fifteen not an all time great.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Defender Larry bird did Make All.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Defensive team three, Times Second team early in his. Career
i'm not a phenomenal. Defender the league has gone so
big on. Offense jokich is not known as an all
time great defensive. Player he's a top twenty player in
the history of the. Sport so if you just look
at the modern, era it's more can you get me a?
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Bucket can you get other guys a?
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Bucket AND i Think luca does that so. Well bucket,
Guy you're you're a hater On.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
LUCA i get. IT i understand you're down on The
lakers And luca mind.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Down i'm just telling you WHAT i. See The west
is loaded and young with great. Coaches The lakers are,
old don't have a lot of draft, capital and we
don't know IF Jj ruddick's. Elid it's just that's just
What i'm.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Seeing third in The, west my friend with a rookie,
coach And ad hurt And luca hurt And ad, Traded,
well come, on, COWHARD i need more.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Positivity on A, monday especially when it comes to The.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
LAKERS J mack with the.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
By the heard love thirty minutes from now on A.
Monday Where colin was, right Where colin was. Wrong SO
i am all for people asking for. Raises so let
me start with. THAT i don't have a problem with
the W nba players asking for. Arraise THE wnba is
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on a hot. STREAK i don't care about the previous
twenty four to twenty five. Years as an, investment it's
starting to pay. Off and so this week they WORE
t shirt, saying you, know making a, statement you better pay.
Us but instead of just leaving it at, that A
Kelsey plumb FOR la had to take a dig At Caitlin.
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Clark here he, is.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
Here she is the t shirt just united front was
determined this morning that we had a meeting for and you,
know not to not to, tattletale but zero members of
Team clark were very present for.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That oh, boy. LISTEN nba players make fifty percent of.
REVENUES wnba players make nine, percent and now the merch
sales are up five hundred percent and attendance is. Up you,
know forty, Percent so they're going to get a. Raised
there's no. Question AND i don't really care that the
previous twenty five year they didn't make a lot of
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money or lost. MONEY i don't. Care they're in the
middle of a negotiation and they're on a, heater so
it doesn't really. Matter i've said this. Before IF i
made an investment for five years and it lost, money
AND i got about six months left in the, investment
and in the last six months they started they started making,
Cash i'm not bailing on the. INVESTMENT i want to
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finally get my money. Back so they're going to get a.
Raise they're finally turning a. Corner but and negotiating in
any business is all about current. Momentum it's not about
twelve years. Ago it's about current. Momentum there are. Companies
i'll give you an. Example When The, athletic which is
a subscription based sports writing, site got purchased By The
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New York. Times The athletic was losing forty five million a.
Year they bought it for. Scale they bought it because
at the Time, biden Not, trump was. President they were losing,
clicks they weren't doing as well, digitally and The athletic
answered that bell at The athletics still doesn't make. Money
they bought it for. Scale not every company that wins
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in negotiations or is sold is wildly. Profitable but the
projection for THE wnba going forward and the current momentum
are really really. Good so THE t shirts don't bother.
Me but why do you take a shot at the golden,
Goose Caitlin. Clark you guys were flying before she arrived
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on one of those airlines that made you pay for
a cup of, water one of those airlines that is
the planes are the color of a. Highlighter now you're flying. Private,
okay if you're in a band and you're staying at
The motel, six and you add a band member and
now you're at the Rich, carlton keep your issues to,
(29:48):
yourself all. Right you went from a motel six in
a sketchy part of town to be four seasons in
the shopping. District stop. TALKING i don't mind THE t.
SHIRTS i think you have. LEVERAGE i think you deserve
more than nine, percent you, know but it's just misstep after.
Misstep it's time to grow, up girls like, fast like
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like this is the player that got you off the
airline that was bright, yellow, right they got she got
you an upgrade to a better hotel as a band.
Member SO i do think a lot of people are, saying, hey,
man this league has never made. Money it's an. Investment
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it's now gonna make. Money and by the, way this
is the least profitable arguably it'll be over the next ten.
Years it's only gonna get more profitable as women's basketball gets,
better as The Caitlin clark momentum train gets. BIGGER i,
mean this year she's not playing, well she's, hurt she's
not there for all the. Games so this is actually
not as great as it could. Be Like Michael jordan
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hurt year, two next twelve years were. Legendary that's what
it's gonna. Be SO i THINK i think they deserve
a big, raise maybe not fifty percent of revenues BECAUSE
nba stars there's a lot of, them and they move the.
Needle THE wnba, stars, well there's one that moves the.
Needle and here's the other thing to, Remember Kaitlin clark's already.
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Rich she made eleven million dollars this year alone in
endorsements off the. Court so regardless of how these negotiations,
go she, said nobody else is. Right like so when
somebody joins the band and everything he gets. Upgraded just be.
Happy JUST i know you wanted your song to be
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the first one they. Played you wanted to make up the.
Set JUST i, mean it's not THE t. Shirts you're
gonna do. Fine i'd scale back on The Caitlin clark.
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do not think this is a. Coincidence i'm not a
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big coincidence. Guy i'm not a big fate. GUY i
think things happen due to. Choices SO espn had its
analytic writers ranked the thirty two best rosters Again, Baltimore, Philly, Detroit.
Buffalo really good, rosters all of, them, really you, know
good G but here's what's, interesting The Sean payton Effect
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denver's at six and thirty two dead last is The
saints don't think it's a. Coincidence we all Know Sean
payton is arguably the best play caller in the. Sport
we also know he's a great play. Designer maybe Not Andy,
reid but a great play. Designer, yeah he can do
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the personnel thing. Too So i'm gonna suggest it is
not a coincidence that The saints have nosedive in personnel
to dead last in the league, analytically and The broncos
are suddenly sixth and to, Me Andy, Reid Sean payton
And sean McVay and the hardbasser close have sort of
separated from the league in, coaching play, calling play, designing culture,
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creation and a sense of. Personnel Colin Kyle, shanahan slow,
Down he's zero to forty three when trailing by eight
or more in the fourth. Quarter i've said, this AND
i Love Kyle. Shanahan he has a legity about his play.
Calling he gets very. Tied it's not all brought, thirty
he gets very. Tied not All Jimmy garoppolo to his play.
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Sheet but what makes this whole thing By Sean. Payton
he's underrated at this point because everybody acknowledges The harbaughs are,
great And Andy reid is, great and Is sean mcvay's.
Unbelievable and it's, like, no, Guys i've said this. Before
It's i'm always impressed with a kid that grows up
with nothing and makes something of. HIMSELF i, mean if
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you're worth a hundred, million but you were a trust
fund kid that grew up with thirty over the course of,
time not that. Impressive if you grew up in an
unstable household and become just a millionaire of any, Level
i'm blown away by. That, okay think about what he.
Inherited Russell wilson's contract the largest at the time dead
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cap number ever when they moved off. Him oh and
by the, Way denver also gave up two first round
picks to Get Russell, wilson so they didn't have, am
they lacked elite draft, capital and they had the worst
dead cap situation ever in a. Division With Andy, Reid
Patrick mahomes AND Gm Brett veach and The hunt, family
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a pluses across the, board and it's only gotten stronger.
Now It's harbaugh in the. Division so he got The
broncos last year in the very TOUGH Afc, west in
the tougher conference of the, two although it's close now
THE afc to the. Playoffs with a quarterback in Bow
knicks that wasn't universally lauded coming into the. Draft they
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looked it up this. Morning this WAS pff scouting reporter
in Bow. Nicks, NOW i Love bownicks out of. College
they did. Not they said limited, Ceiling no truly elite.
Trait nicks has a rather high floor due to his,
age but very limited. Ceiling tough to justify spending overly
valuable draft capital on him so overwhelmingly in the, league
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Bo nicks was like the fifth most talented quarterback in the.
Division With Herbert, Harbaugh reid And mahomes and a great front,
Office bonicks gets into the. Playoffs, bonicks in, fact had
more touchdown passes and total touchdowns Than jaden, McDaniels who
Had terry, McLaurin and in a weaker division with The
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giants and The. Cowboys So i'm just, saying if you
look at the Awful, saints if you look at the
Rising broncos the, fact and this is something offensive coaches
do very. Well reid does, it McVeigh does. It Sean
payton's done. It it's something offensive coaches do better than defensive.
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COACHES i don't think it's arguable when he got not
only was the culture broken In, denver the quarterback was,
broken the dead cat money was going to be. Unbelievable
they'd given up two first round picks to Get. Russ
the offensive line was a. Mess by the end of
his first, year it was a top twelve offensive. Line
now it's. VIEWED i just saw, THIS i think ON
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pff or one of these ranking, systems it's like the
second and third best offensive line in. Football That's Sean.
Payton that's NOTHING gm or the new. Owner that's not
a defensive, coordinator that's Not Bo, nicks That's Sean. Payton
because they couldn't get the online right for, years he
arrives it's suddenly. Great that's what McVeigh did overnight IN
la With Andrew. Whitworth it's What Andy reid has done
the last four. Years as they've Paid, mahomes you got
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to kind of Ham An egget on the offensive. Line
you can't pay everybody up. Front SO i think we
universally Know Andy, reid The, Harbaugh sean, McVeigh What Sean
payton has, done what he's had to overcome lack of draft,
capital dead cap. Money it is. Remarkable and right now
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they're considered to have the sixth best roster in the.
League not a lot of coaches are great with. Personnel
Jimmy johnson's. Legend Jimmy johnson created the draft, board you,
know the value system that, like nobody made trades in THE.
Nfl Before Jimmy, johnson The New York giants had made
one trade EVER i think it was or maybe it
was ONE d season. TRADE i don't know what it,
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was but nobody. Traded WHEN i was a kid growing,
up people didn't make big. Trades Then Jimmy johnson came
in the Herschel walker deal with The, vikings and Then it's,
like oh, wow you can take you can you can
really take advantage of people in this trading, Thing Colin,
Wright Colin, wrong top of the next. Hour SO J
mack has HAD i gotta tell, YOU J, Mack i've
really seen a pivot of as you age now and
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you're growing a. Mustache Between Bradley beal And marcus smart
old guy TO la, teams you were on an old guy.
HEATER i went and looked this morning at The clippers
odds Pre Bradley beal and Post Bradley. Beal, remarkably they
did not move at.
Speaker 8 (38:45):
All what CAN i?
Speaker 7 (38:46):
Say you, know folks are not really as up on
The Bradley beal factor AS i. Am But i'll be, Honest,
colin this is one of THOSE i had to take last.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Week you were.
Speaker 7 (38:54):
Out remember Last, monday your travel staff AND i said
something To brusard during our interview about How bradley.
Speaker 8 (39:00):
Will put The lakers over the.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
Top it got aggregated over The this guy got like
three million views off me talking About Bradley. Beal all
these people coming from my, neck and HERE i, thought
you a, wise older gentleman who likes the older.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Guys you, know Uh.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Lebron who does he win with young? Guys, no, listen,
GUYS i maybe he would be on. Board, NO i
may be. OLD i don't like. OLD i don't even
like my. AGE i don't like.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
OLD i Like Oklahoma, CITY i Like dallas's young. BIGS
i Like houston's, youth even THOUGH i Thought katie was
a great. Ad WHAT i don't like is three years
ago WHEN i Said milwaukee's getting. Old when you get,
old you. Struggle first of, all you can struggle in
the regular season because your older players get dinged, up
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take time, off so you can hurt your. Seating Oklahoma
city's young they won by an average of twelve point
nine points per game in the regular. Season young teams
get better seating young teams, generally and it's always a.
Rule in foot, basketball, baseball young players recover more quickly from,
injuries so youth in THE. Nba with the NEW, cba
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it's not about old. Stars that's why free agency died
in THE. Nba the league now is about getting old
guys on a minimum and draft and developing your. Players
because THE cba now all the punitive apron, penalties you
can't pay multiple.
Speaker 7 (40:22):
Stars, interesting so you're saying the pivot From lebron back
in the.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
DAY i only want to win with old. Guys young
guys don't.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Win THE LA ram saying forget those, picks we want.
Veterans are you saying that's starting to change in THE? Nba,
well THE. CBA i always said.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
This David stern inherited AN nba, that Like New, York,
boston d like a lot of the big, brands weren't.
Great so his way to redo THE nba, was let's create,
dynasties let's have stars in the right. PLACE i think
he leaned into. That Adam silver inherited a different league
where there were too many. Dynasties he leaned INTO i
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want to Hope Homa city In indiana to be. Viable
how do you do? That create a TOUGH cba where
big markets can't accumulate multiple. Stars this is Finally Adam
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