January 2, 2026 • 41 mins
In this hour of The Herd, Colin reacts to Wednesday and Thursday's College Football Playoff games and recognizes that the SEC has taken a back seat to the Big Ten in terms of college football dominance. Also, after Miami's win over Ohio State in the quarterfinal, we can see that the Hurricanes were legitimate this whole time. Finally, Colin wonders if the Pittsburgh Steelers are destined for the same, old offseason they've gone through the last eight years.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Wow Wow, what a day yesterday in college football, Major
major NFL games This weekend Hawks Niners, Steelers Ravens one
hour from now our final regular season blazing fives. I
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like it last week, Dogs this week. Favorites Wherever you
may be, however you may be listening. Happy New Year
to those tuning in listening, whatever platform it is. Well,
I have nothing against Alabama football. That was a glorious
beat down yesterday, was it not? In the Rose Bowl,
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Indiana sent a sport wide message the SEC dominance is over.
The Hoosiers pushed around the Crimson Tide for three and
a half hours. The new reality is Bama can't run
the football and Georgia can't stop any good offense. It's
Miami Indiana, at least for this year. Who are the
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new bullies on the block and the harsh truth to
all you traditionalists, of which I am not one. You
are and you were wrong, dead wrong. Conference realignment, nil
transfer portal. What a glorious new world we live in.
It's more even, it's more unpredictable. Alabama can't stack a roster,
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either can Georgia or LSU. There are more paths to
via bill. Now, we had a fifteen year run on
this sport, maybe twenty we're at this time of the year.
It was Georgia, it was Ohio, stay, it was Alabama,
it was Clemson. You choose that, give me more Miami, Indiana, Oregon?
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Oh myth, I mean I love it. In fact, to
put a stamp on it. In the last three years,
the Big Ten four and oh head to head against
the SEC. We sort of predicted it a couple of
years ago. We said, there's a lot of money in
those Big ten schools, there's a lot of money in
those cold weather legendary universities. It's going to start pouring
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in now. Everybody can pay players the SEC. Georgia's defense,
come on, he can't stop a good offense. Alabama got
pushed around by Indiana. People often ask is the America
can dream possible? Damn straight, It's called Indiana. Who's your football?
From pathetic to powerful, awful to awe inspiring, doormat to dominance,
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great coach, the right boosters, remarkable quarterback, they play real defense.
Is Indiana of the best tackling team that you've seen
in recent years? I mean they were a dog with
flees my entire life. Even in the league Corso days,
everybody loved them. They weren't very good, but I watched Indiana.
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You just change uniforms. This is a better college football.
This is a much much better college football. Not because
Alabama got housed. Because Ole Miss is now representing the South,
not Michigan or Ohio State or Penn State. Indiana's representing
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the Midwest. Impossible not to root for unless you're playing them.
We still have a West Coast power, We still have
an SEC. I don't know the Mendoza line. By the way,
if he's not the number one pick, I don't even
understand football. Fourteen of sixteen, three touchdowns, no picks, And
I don't know how you don't love Fernando Mendoza in
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postgame interviews.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
First of all, my team and I want to give
all the goor to God. What historic venue, the Rosebult
one of the best venues in all of sports. It's
just a great conglomerate of individuals coming together and really
forming complimentary football. Coach sig has hit on us no complacency,
and especially when you have a bye, it's tough to.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Get in the rhythm of football.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But once we got our few on the ground, we
knew that we're gonna stick together and come out with
this w.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I mean, I know what you're saying in a little
cringey I don't know. I don't want my quarterbacks to
be cool. That was Johnny manziel I like that number
one pick. Congratulations Raiders, try not to screw it up
all right. I want to talk about Miami beating Ohio
State because, again on a macro level, the best part
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of the NFL to me is that we really don't
know who the best football team is right now. We
may not know until two and a half minutes left
at the Super Bowl, and that's what college football is becoming.
I think Indiana is the best team, but maybe it's
all miss the Buckeyes. Last season, they lost at Oregon,
they lost to Michigan. They were the best team in
the end. And this year the Hurricanes, yeah, they lost
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to Louisville in mid October. It no longer wrecks your
season in the old system, if you were ranked like
ninth in like week nine or ten, get ready for
the Citrus Bowl season over, No Natty, not anymore. I
watched Miami play Pittsburgh in like week thirteen fourteen, beat
him thirty eight to seven. I came on the next day,
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I'm like, whoa, Yeah, Notre Dame can't get in. Miami's
getting like really good and bullying people. In fact, Indiana
is the only team in the country six and oho
against ranked teams. But it took a while to figure
that out, and they were almost left out because they
lost to an eight and four Louisville team that's won
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a lot of games over the last six or seven years.
College football today, and all the old timers push back.
It's a little bit more like the NFL. You're allowed
to stub your toe more than once. You can lose
even at home to arrival Ohio State last year, but
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you can get in. You can grow. Just like people
mistakes when you're fourteen or twenty four shouldn't be punitive,
mostly for life, and I mean the Steelers in the
Ravens play Sunny Night. You talk about flawed teams, I
can't wait to watch the winner gets into the playoffs.
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That's not a weakness, it's a strength of the NFL. Miami,
the Hurricanes are precisely what right about the new system
is that the candidate pool is broad for a very long,
long period. You have to beat good teams. Miami is
six and zero against ranked teams. We're gonna count every game.
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But you can lose to louisvill You can lose in conference.
It's okay, those weird conference games mid season. These kids
are going to class. There's only twenty hours a week
you can practice. All these teams are flawed. Michigan. Last year,
Ohio States, a twenty point favorite, loses to rival Michigan
that point fourd. They bulldoze people. It takes a while,
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and we know this in the NFL. We thought the
Rams were the best team three weeks ago. I hope
they beat Arizona Sunday. You don't know until you know.
And it used to be like week eight, Week nine,
Week ten, you're like, well, maybe we'll get to the
Fiesta Bowl, maybe the Citrus Bowl. Alamomoble, It's not the
way it works anymore. Super Mario, oh Chrystal ball after
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that lost to Louisville. Just like in life, it's a lesson.
He took a negative, he made it positive. He embraced
the team, he didn't bark. He said, we need to
be relentless, and that's exactly what they were in their
win over Ohio State. And here's Super Mario after.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
We don't think we have arrived by any stretch, but
we certainly think we're getting better. And when you play
a team like that, that's been the number one defense
in the country the entire year. You have to after
they converted the third and eighteen and then the touchdown
drive at the end and then to you know, finish
it off with an interception. Those are all Those are
great counter punches. Those are just really like left hooks
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to the body into the head. Those are great, great
counterpunches by our team.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I think Indiana is going to I think meet Miami
in the National Championship, But like the NFL, I'm not sure.
I think Indiana buy a field goals, probably the best
team in the country, but Miami, who stumbled mid season,
has not lost to a ranked team, won a road
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game against A and M. And I mean they didn't
just beat Ohio State, they beat up Ohio State. So
I love where we're at in this sport. Give me
more of Indiana all missing a shootout Oregon that's always entertaining,
and the Canes. Kaynes Row was good for college football,
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got a personality jmck that was I'd like to say
it's crazy, but it's not. After watching last year where
Ohio State loses a huge favorite of Michigan, You're like,
is Ryan Day going to get fired? And they just
I mean, they just rolled through people until this year
when they lost to Indiana, and they lost to Miami.
By the way, Ohio State lost to two teams that
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had a similarity, great defensive fronts that pressure the quarterback
and push you around. Dana is a tough team. First
of all, they're so well coached to make no mistakes,
and they run the ball so they're very physical. And
then they have the best quarterback by a stretch in
college football. Indiana's going to be a tough.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Out, very tough.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I was blown away by the Trinidad Chamberliss story last while.
I mean, I can't stop reading about this kid. A
year ago, he's playing, you know, Division two, winning a
national championship. Now he's doing unbelievable stuff. I don't even
have like a comparison for him in the in the NFL,
I was thinking Johnny Manzel, like he's running around doing
wacky stuff and.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It all works.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, I said, I don't know. It was week eight
or nine. I remember either going to acts or going
on the show, and I said, I get Dak Prescott vibes,
A little smaller Dak Prescott vibes. Where now Dak moved
very very well in college and wasn't as big and
bulky as he is now. He didn't have a very
good old line a Mississippi State. I get little Dak vibes.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
But he's going to be up against it against this
Miami front.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Oh, a little bit of a different beast.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah, George, what happened to the Georgia defense, Colin, This
is Georgia defense.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
It's all in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I saw no pass rush, I mean, and anytime they blitzed,
he's out running guys.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
That was a fun game last night. Oh, it was
a great game last night.
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Speaker 1 (11:55):
Steelers Ravens Sunday Night going to be ugly, but the
headlines I'm reading this morning illustrate what's at stake. Here's
one of them. Aaron Rodgers anticipates having options if he
wants to play next year. The Steelers signed Aaron Rodgers
for games like Sunday. Are Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh's
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jobs at stake? Here's another one. Lamar Jackson says he'll
play Sunday night. You'd hope it's like a season finale
of your favorite TV show. All the storylines and all
the plot lines are coming to a conclusion. Wrap a
bow on it, Sunday night. I do think if the
Ravens lose, the world doesn't necessarily end. John Harbaugh comes back,
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Lamar Jackson gets healthy, Derek Henry still productive. I like
their defense when healthy. You can just chalk it up to,
you know, Lamar wasn't right, But if the Steelers lose,
it's more like that Sopranos ending fade to black with
a lot of ambiguity. The Steelers are just not comfortable.
The Ravens are, but the Steelers are not comfortable with
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big sweeping change. For the Pittsburgh Steelers, a New Year's
resolution would be I'm gonna get a haircut this year.
They're not risk takers, they don't take big swings. They
keep paying their defense. I feel like every season's the
same for the last seven years. The offense is outdated
and dull. They don't have a quarterback for the future.
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They have a winning record, but they're not really super
Bowl viable. So I just don't see a path forward
for Pittsburgh. I do think Aaron Rodgers. I mean, if
I had a comeback Player of the Year based on
how he played with the Jets, I'd give it to
Aaron Rodgers. They got nothing to work with because DK
metcalf because of that issue with a fan, He's not
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going to play again. They don't have a number two receiver,
and now Washington, the big tight ends hurt, So it's
a little warrant running back Aaron trying to stay away
from turnovers? Can you win? Fourteen to thirteen? Kudos to Aaron.
I think he's got a really good year. So I
think Mike Tomlin to me, should pull a Sean Payton.
Wrap it up with a team that did very well
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Super Bowls and then go broadcast for a year. You'll
be great at it like Peyton was, and then do
a reboot and find another franchise that needs your guidance,
your mentorship, your toughness, your resilience, and your leadership. But
as far as Aaron Rodgers on the possibility this could
be his last game, heck of a season for him,
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all things considered, here's Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
You know, I don't know that I've taken time to
ponder that. I'm just committed to making sure that it's not.
He's certainly been an awesome contributor to our efforts, and
not only from a talent perspective and an experienced perspective,
but just his professionalism, his relationship with the game, his
love for his teammates, and his willingness to help them
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grow and get better and gain better understanding each and
every day has been has been cool to be a
part of.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, it will be really ugly, it'll low scoring, I think,
because it's the Ravens and the Steelers, it will be close.
I think if Lamar plays, it's hard for me to
see the Ravens losing, though they get sloppy, and the
Steelers with Aaron don't turn it over. So I think,
you know, if Pittsburgh, you told me right now, picked
up a fumble and rented in for six to keep
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it close, that would be their route to win. They've
done that on more than one occasion this year. They
gave Drake May if I recall his worst effort. So
Pittsburgh's got a shot, a puncher's chance, a puncher a
tough puncher's jaw. But I like Baltimore in this spot.
But if the Ravens lose, I feel better about the future,
and I feel the last seven years for the Steelers
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it's basically been a rerun J Mack with a news.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
No, this is the herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You got it there? Oh the mic won't work. That's okay, buddy,
just more of me talking. I think, all right, let
me do a story before we go to Herdline. And
I was gonna put this instead of the Ravens Steels.
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But the whole thing about Georgia losing late. I thought
Georgia would win, and I thought they were the better
team for chunks of the game. But I will say this,
when Lane Kiffin left, my take was, well, like a
lot of us, he's mobile and he's taking a better job.
I was okay with that. I did ask the question,
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are you sure you can't get to the Natty with
Trinidad Chambliss, who didn't start the year as the starting quarterback.
But I watched this kid, and all I'm saying is
Lane Kifvin has value. But he's a little small for
the NFL. Right, He's a little slight, only two hundred
pounds for the NFL. But my takeaway watching him is
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that he's not coach dependent, and I don't think Fernando
Mendoza is necessarily coach dependent. But he's better at Indiana
that he was at cal. But I love watching this
kid play and it's going to be very interesting to
see if the Sunday people like him. I get Dak
Prescott vibes, but small quarterbacks don't last long in the NFL.
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But my takeaway in this game was I don't think
Old miss is as good as Indiana. I don't think
they're as good as Oregon. I don't think they're as
good as Miami. I think the SEC team that got
in has the worst defense of the four teams and
is the worst of the four teams. But this kid's
a remarkable story. He did not start the season as
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the starting quarterback. He's from something called Big Rapids Michigan,
which can't be that big because I've never heard of it.
So I thought it was interesting. Before the game the
sideline interview, they asked him how do you stop Cambliss
in this offense? And he kind of rambled on, and
at the end of it, I was thinking, that's not
really an answer on how to stop him, And then
you watch the game and you're like, because he didn't
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necessarily have a solution to stop him. So here was
Trinidad Chambliss, a remarkably fun quarterback to watch, impossible not
to root for when you look at his story. Here
he is after the win, and.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
We're not really focused on like destiny or anything like that.
We just want to play ball and have fun. A
lot of people did doubt us before the season, and
they still doubt us when you know our coach left.
So we just want to play ball and have fun.
And I think that's showing right now.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So I know everybody else was doubting us this season.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
With the goal of this season of watch Trinidad came
was to compete for a championship, and that's something that
we're going to do around here on a consistent basis.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, I can I can defend Lane Kiffin moving, but
I do wonder and I watched enough old mister in
the season. I'm like, they could score their way to
the final four. I don't think they're good enough defensively
to win a national championship. In Indiana, Miami all significantly
better defenses, but they're an easy team to root for
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because of that kid who does give me dak vibes.
I don't know how it translates to the next level.
But seventy one percent completion percentage, five touchdowns, no picks
so far in the college football playoff. And here is
Jmack with the news. Heard on the news.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
All right, let's start with the Orange Bowl colin fun
game between Oregon and Texas Tech. If you like sloppiness
and defense. It was kind of an ugly one. Oregon
comes out on top twenty three nothing. The Dutch force
four turnovers, held Texas Tech to two hundred fifteen yards.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Here's Dan Landing afterward.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
We've talked to our guys about being battle tested all
year and then have to win in different ways.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And that game went back and forth in a lot
of ways.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
You know, struggled at times to go score points in
Our defense did an unbelievable job getting the ball back.
Our offense showed up when it mattered most there at
the end of the game. Out of our players, the
resiliency that they showed, their ability to stay calm and
poised and collected under pressure. It's not easy in big moments,
but these guys have shown improven time after time. These
two guys up here, that team in that locker room
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have shown time and time again that they're ready for
big moments.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, Finny had quite a game. I think Oregon's really good.
They could have just kicked field goals in one and
it should be it should be noted James Madison blown out,
Tulane blown out, and Texas tank from the weakest conference
totally absolutely dominated. I hope this is a little bit
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instructive to the committee that you can want to be inclusive,
but football is about depth, a regulated level of violence,
elite players, elite coaching staffs. The little guy got pummeled.
Three little guys got absolutely pummeled in this playoff and
were left. Now, the uniforms may be different, but Miami's
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got NFL dudes everywhere, SODA's Oregon, SODA's Indiana all miss
offensively does so, you know, it's just like watching this game,
you're like, Okay, this is the worst of the final
eight teams. They went and bought a defensive front, but
they offensively, they're just not competent. They're not good enough
to be here.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Well, they might have beat Alabama yesterday. Alabama was terrible.
I'll just say this. Did you notice that the three
teams of all the teams that played last week, three
of the four to one come and last year it
was four or four. So a big edge is not
sitting out and not getting the buy and if you bet,
by the way, the first quarter a clean, sweet easy
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money on the teams that played the week prior. And
I wonder if the committee's going to think about changing that,
because you know, if you think the buye is some
big edge, it's not.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Texas Tech look asleep for most of that game.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Could you make the layoff less? Could you move the
college football up like eight to nine days so you
don't have eighteen days off, you've got ten.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
It was close to like twenty two.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, I think that's I mean football. We've talked about
this in pro football. There is no edge. The only
edge to having a buy now in the NFL there's
only two AFC NFC is you're at home, so you're
more comfortable. But football, unless you're an old team like
Philadelphia and you've got some O line injuries by and
large like the Seahawks the Ravens, if you start looking
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at all these teams. I guess the Ravens if they
could get a day off or a week off with ball.
You know Lamar's injuries. Most football teams in the NFL.
Seattle's young, the Rams defense is young. You want to
play New England's young. You don't want time off. And
for these rosters that are twenty year old kids, I
don't need. If you give a twenty year old kid
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twenty three days off, they're gonna lose focus. I think
it's pretty clear.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I'm just curious to your thoughts on Dante Moore, who
didn't like the World on fire. I know you think
it's a blow. It was thirteen nothing with like twelve minutes. Well,
Texas Tech just couldn't generate offense.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
But if you I didn't see an awesome game from.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Dante k If you put Ty Simpson, Dante More and
Fernando Mendoza up against each other, there is a massive gap.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I mean, I think Fernando Mendoza regardless going forward, he
is the number one slam dunk quarterback, size, accuracy, moves
better than most people think. I think Dante More is
just a kid. I think he needs another year. I
think the Texas tech defensive front's good, but it was
sloppy and ugly and penalties and this is what we
predicted on Wednesday. I said it's gonna be an ugly game.
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Dante more is gonna probably struggle a little with that
defensive front, and that's what happened.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
So do you if he comes out Jets at three? Oh,
that's gonna that. I mean, I like Dante Moore. I'm
here at Jared Goff comparisons. By the way, Ty Simpson
moves better than Dante Moore. He's not like this scrambling,
fun fast quarterback. He's It wasn't a great game. We'll
see what he does in the rematch against Indiana. All right,
let's move on to the NFL. Eagles are resting a
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lot of starters this week Colin against the Commanders in
Week eighteen.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Including Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Philly's offensive strategy this year has been kind of touch
and go.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
It just hasn't been working.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Left tackle Jordan Milatta still believes despite the ups and downs,
confidence is high.
Speaker 10 (24:20):
God we have I think we've been here before, We've
been downed before. We've had these same questions heading into
playoffs last year. You know, and so like for us,
it's just we welcome that challenge. It's not like we're
just pushing it under the corpit. We're doing everything we can.
We've been here before, we've been doubted, and every time
we've proven them all. That's why I have confidence, That's
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why everyone does.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, there's a lot of new playoff teams, a lot
of in the AFC where you've got like a Jacksonville
you're like, you know, or or like New England or
now NFC at Chicago. It is different, Peyton Manning, US
don't say that there's regular season speed, there's playoff speed
and then their super Bowl speed and like playoff speed
is different. It is really really intense. As you pointed out,
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when you have a bye in the college football playoff,
that first series or two, that team that just played
last week or you know, did not have a bye,
they're playing at a different speed. In the first Miami
was playing at a totally different speed than Ohio State.
So I Philadelphia, I think this is they're built to
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win games in this postseason. I think that would be
a bad early round matchup for the Rams. I think
Seattle matches up with them pretty well. But outside of that,
they have a matchup advantage on a lot of these
NFC teams.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
To talk about teams that could use the bye, I
mean they can't get the buy, but Saquon Barkley could
use the rest. He hasn't been getting to anything. Lane
Johnson coming off injury. Jalen Carter, Who's gonna sit this week?
He had the shoulder issue. Like the Eagles are a
beat up team.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Remember the long playoff run last year.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I think they're going to be fine, and I'm starting
to lean toward them coming out of the out of
the NFC column. I know you're a Seattle guy, but
this Eagles team, man, if they got healthy. Final story
is the New York Giants head coaching search. Let's just
say it's swinging into high gear under Joe she Colin.
Prominent reporters who are credible are putting together a list
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of guys.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Mike McCarthy a name we've been talking about on the
show for months. He's at the top. The rest of
the guys defensive guys. Jeff Hafley of the Packers, Chris
Shula of the Rams, Jesse Mentor of the Chargers and
former Raider head coach Antonio Pierce, who pretty clearly is
going around telling everybody, see, I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
The problem last year.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
They sting.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I don't know if you're a Giants fan or you
kind of inspired by by this list, so I'll laugh.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I think Mike McCarthy may not excite you. You're not
gonna win the press conference. But won a lot of
games when Dak was upright, twelve wins a year, and
Dall when he had Dak and he was winning a
lot of games. He and Aaron Rodgers went sideways. Some
of these coaches, you know, Lane Kevin at LSU is
gonna win the press conference. Mike McCarthy is never going
to win a press conference. But I think he's a
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very capable coach. I really do.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
McCarthy is definitely not taking this job before finding out
what's up in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay, did you get the.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Dents to coach Joe Burrow? Should the chief Bengals run
off their head coach?
Speaker 5 (27:24):
That's the most prominent job in the market, and who knows?
Just Buffalo flame out in one round? And would you
rather coach Jackson Dart or Josh Allen? Like, come on,
I think McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Is that way.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I think the Cincinnati job is more perilous than you do.
Burrow's health upstairs. Beyond frugal, they don't make free agent moves.
Everybody feel, even their star players who they drafted, there's
always a holdout field to it. I think Cincinnati is.
I mean, if you look at the Bengals history, they've
actually been so good drafting the most important position. Go
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back to Anderson, to Carson Palmer or Boomer a Siasin
and Andy Dalton and Joe Burrow. They always always every
decade the Bengals get quarterback right, And what do they
have to show for May? What's the common thread in
that upstairs? So I don't think the Bengals job is
one I would take. I love Burrow, but you and
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I've talked about this. If Burrow has one more injury,
don't you have to draft the quarterback? Don't you have
to think about it?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I think you probably got to do what do that?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Anyway?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
But I'm curious.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Jackson Dart is the AP feeling and you got the
number two pick.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, the Giants roster isn't bad. Skataboo comes back. Jackson
Dart A lot of energy. I've been arguing this for years.
I've been proven wrong. But I think the Giants actually
have some good players. I just it's just a weird franchise.
Who has more better players. Giants are Eagles. Eagles by
a mile.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Okay, Giants are Cowboys Giants.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh, you just know the Cowboy players. You know Sadia,
you know Dak. I do like the Cowboys O line
in run blocking. They're not good in passtro, but they're
good run blockings, all right. J mclens Well, that's the
news and thanks for stopping by the Herd Line News.
Blazing five A lot of favorites.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I like.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
A lot of favorites. Four out of my five picks
I like favorites. Also, some thoughts on Caleb Williams. Tomorrow
night in what could be one of the games of
the season. I think it's going to be the Seattle
Seahawks at the Niners. Darnold and brock perty We're gonna
go to our big board. We always do this in
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the biggest of games, ten best players. I think you'll
be surprised by that.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
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Speaker 5 (29:52):
There's some more great football coming your way in the
Trust and will Holiday Bowl.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
NOA and Arizona take on as and you say, can't
miss showdown in.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
San Diego tonight seven thirty Eastern, four thirty Pacific on Fox.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I trust you will be watching. I'm going to watch
the Niners Seahawks tomorrow night. I think it's gonna be
great if Sam Donald beat San Francisco and the Seahawks
get the number one seat in the NFC. I am
smoking a cigar on the set in La Monday with
the I Told You So budget. I like Sam and
a lot, and it's really more the journey than the quarterback.
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I think he's a very good quarterback. Bit reckless at times,
but a very good quarterback. But a lot about quarterbacking
in the NFL is survival just sort of like all
of our twenties, right, Like Mahomes gets Andy Reid out
of college and Voe Nicks gets Sean Payton. That's like
being bored into a trust fund. It's hard to screw
it up. But Sam Donald, twenty year old, goes to
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the Jets bad head coach front office over at SKIS.
That's like the rest of us when we're twenty we've
got student loan debt our boss is a jerk car
keeps breaking down that that's like, that's a real twenty
year old experience. And that's what Sam Donald had, you
know what I mean, your mom and dad get divorced.
That's how a lot of us for in our twenties.
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And so I think Donald's an easy guy to root for,
and I think brock Perty's got a little bit of that,
although we got Kyle Shanahan being the last guy draft
at Iowa State, he's easy to root for. But I
think it's a battle of two quarterbacks, Donald and Purty
on heaters with a lot of skeptics, and here's Sam
Donald on the showdown.
Speaker 11 (31:34):
At the end of the day, it's just football, you know.
And I think that's the best part about it is,
you know, people want to make it a little bit
bigger than it is.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
But we're just going out there.
Speaker 11 (31:43):
We're playing against the Niners, a really good football team,
a team that we're going to be prepared for, and
you know it's going to be great though. You know
the fans are going to be into it. It's gonna
be a great atmosphere. But other than that, it's it's football,
and we'll be ready.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
To go for it. So in big, big regular season games,
I pull out the big board and I say, let's
see who's got the ten best players. You cross your fingers.
If Trent Williams and George Kittle can play, I think
they will. I think in terms of highest end players,
San Francisco's got more of the ten best players in
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this game. I think Christian McCaffrey's the best. Jsn is second,
then George Kittle and Trent Williams. All three of those
Niners are Hall of famers, then Donald and Brock Purty
five and six. I don't care who you put in front.
If you like Purty, put in five, Donald six. But
I do think the depth is not close. I think
Seattle's roster defensively, this is a mismatch Byron Murphy, Devon Witherspoon,
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Nick Eman, Wori, DeMarcus Lawrence. If I went to fifteen,
it'd be mostly Seattle players. So I think if Kittle
and Trent Williams play, this is a really really good
football game. Blazing five. It's one of my picks. But
we've got to be honest here in terms of depth
and youth and speed and defense. It's a little bit
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of a mismatch. This Seattle roster is stacked. I want
to go and again, I love Donald. I think it's
the journey is the part that I appreciate because I
you know, I hear all the time about twenty year olds.
It's hard for twenty year olds to get jobs. It's
hard for twenty year olds in my generation. It's hard.
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Twenties are hard. You don't make a lot high expectations.
Your first job usually stinks. But I think what what
Donald's been able to do, it really proves the quarterbacking
in this league. A lot of it is not how
you start, it's how you finish. It's survival. Can you
overcome that first awful boss, that first awful job, And
that's what Donald's done. I want to go back to
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Indiana beating Alabama. One of the things that is really
hard is that college football has always been sort of
a trick addition sport. It's got an older fan base.
The NBA fan base is much younger than the college
football fan base, and traditions incredibly powerful. That's why these
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fans have so much trouble letting go of these unwatchable,
awful Bowl games. I've been watching the Shakrish ball and
they're unwatchable. There's nobody at these games, and the ratings
have got into the tank. But I think people forget
this Indiana. The last two years in college football, not
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Alabama has had the best point differential. They've been beating
the crud out of everybody the last couple of years.
They have the number one red zone offense, the number one,
number two scoring defense. They have a better record the
last two years than Notre Dame, Georgia and Ohio State. Yeah, Indiana,
but it's like the Coke Pepsi taste test. Pepsi won
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it forever. But you know, you've always been drinking Coca
Cola and your parents did, your brother did everybody? Did
you see the commercials and so was Coca Cola is better.
I remember years ago Pepsi was winning all those taste
tests consistently, And yeah, it's funny. I live in a
neighborhood that's got a Peach coffee in a Starbucks. I
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like peach coffee Starbucks's packs. I can't get a coffee
at Peach in thirty seconds Starbucks. I'm sitting waiting in line.
You know, marketing is powerful. Indiana is really good. I
think Indiana is the best team I had predicted Wednesday.
I said they're gonna blow Alabama out. Indiana told her
Ban Mayer Indiana was gonna blow Alabama's doors off because
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I watch a lot of college football, and I'd watched
the Alabama play six or seven times. They couldn't run
the football and you never knew what you were going
to get. I watched Indiana five or six times this year,
ten times last couple of years. When Indiana went to
Oregon and thumped Oregon, that game was not as close
as the score they thumped Oregon. Ohio State went to
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Oregon last year and lost. Oregon is always good, always
top six or seven, and Indiana went there and thumped them.
It was like, Oh, this isn't a good story. This
is a really good team. In fact, the only team
I think matches up with Indiana is Miami. I don't
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know if Oregon matches up. They didn't earlier this year,
and ole Miss does not match up at all with Indiana.
I think Miami does. I think the way to beat
Indiana you gotta stop the run game. You gotta make
Fernando Mendoza really uncomfortable, and I think Miami has the
ability to do that. But it's a brand thing. It's
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just it's hard to get over Indiana Hoosiers thumping Alabama.
They didn't beat Alabama, they imposed their will, They inhumiliated them.
You're gonna blame Caitlin to Bull all you want. INDI
hands a much better team, and I got to tell you,
Indiana is the best coach team I've seen in a
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long time. When Bama went to try to pull them
off sides on the fake punt when Ty Simpson was
in the game, went to the line to try to
fake Indiana out, Hoosiers were totally prepared for it. So
Kurt Signetti. The other thing I love about the Indiana story,
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and this is why I gave Belichick a fighting chance
at Carolina. It used to be I always thought college
football was a young man's sport because you were on
the road going to all these high school games recruiting.
But college football now, this is why Whittingham at Michigan,
I think he'll be pretty good, great, I don't know,
he'll be pretty good. A lot of college football now
is staff building and administrative. I mean, you're right in
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your check you get out the check book. If you
got the right donors, you're buying seven or eight starters,
high end starters. So Indiana's got good business school. A
lot of graduates made a lot of money. They're giving back.
They found a coach, he's a good administrator, he's got
an excellent staff. His offensive coordinator probably in the next
couple of years, gets a big job. But it's I
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think this is just so good for the sport. Everybody
in college football and I understood it. I was talking
to somebody last night about this. College football fans are older,
and older Americans love their traditions and a lot of
traditions Augusta. It's great. There's a lot of old stuff
I like. But college football traditions were I mean really,
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outside of the Rose Bowl, you could have most of them. Yeah,
I don't know. Give me Michigan, Ohio State, give me
a Rose Bowl. A lot of this stuff was you
were you had to force yourself to really argue. It's
really fascinating. I what we're watching now is unbelievable. We
are just Indiana. It's I know you're all going like
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because even Miami. You've seen Miami be like physical and great.
You know you all missus had some way Lane Kiffin.
Last several years, you've seen old mis draw forty on people.
You've seen Oregon now since the Chip Kelly Mike Bollotti days,
you've seen them in big games rolling people. Indiana is
like what and all Nick Saban's buddies are telling them, yeah,
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you guys are gonna crush him. No way, and he
has way better, way better. I think everybody when I
said the other day I said Indiana is going to
blow Alabama out, people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I
would have gotten less pushback if I'd have said Bama's
going to blow out Indiana. In fact, I told a buddy,
Who've got a lot of money on this game, I said,
I cannot believe how many people are online or on
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TV saying Bama's gonna win comfortably. Have you watched Have
you watched Alabama play? Indiana is so much better than Alabama.
Forget the coaching, Who's got better players, way better at quarterback.
Their receivers maybe aren't quite as good, but front end back,
the defense, the old lines much better. So college football
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has never been more transitional, and that transitional nature of
it the portal is is. I think Indiana is now
a beacon of optimism and a beacon of hope for
the sport. I mean, when you think about Indiana most
of our lives, it was Bobby Knight, I mean that
was it. And if you really followed academics, you're like
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good business school. Oh, Bloomington's kind of a cool town.
You never thought football, Well, those days have changed, and
I really am I don't necessarily think people are saying, ooh,
Kurt Signetti, take another job. This is what I said
about Lane Kiffin. I'll defend you taking LSU. But if
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Ole Miss has the right boosters, you're watching Old Miss
with this coaching staff. I don't know. I don't know
if you can win a Natty at Old Miss, but
if you can win one at Indiana and their favored
to than you probably can the old traditional great jobs.
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Right now, Indiana football is better than USC sorry and
Alabama and Clemson. I'm sorry. It is blazing five neck
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I have nothing against Alabama football. That was a glorious
beat down yesterday, was it not? In the Rose Bowl,
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Indiana sent a sport wide message the SEC dominance is over.
The Hoosiers pushed around the Crimson Tide for three and
a half hours. The new reality is Bama can't run
the football and Georgia can't stop any good offense. It's
Miami Indiana, at least for this year. Who are the
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new bullies on the block and the harsh truth to
all you traditionalists, of which I am not one. You
are and you were wrong, dead wrong. Conference realignment, nil
transfer portal. What a glorious new world we live in.
It's more even, it's more unpredictable. Alabama can't stack a roster,
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either can Georgia or LSU. There are more paths to
via bill. Now, we had a fifteen year run on
this sport, maybe twenty we're at this time of the year.
It was Georgia, it was Ohio, stay, it was Alabama,
it was Clemson. You choose that, give me more Miami, Indiana, Oregon?
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Oh myth, I mean I love it. In fact, to
put a stamp on it. In the last three years,
the Big Ten four and oh head to head against
the SEC. We sort of predicted it a couple of
years ago. We said, there's a lot of money in
those Big ten schools, there's a lot of money in
those cold weather legendary universities. It's going to start pouring
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in now. Everybody can pay players the SEC. Georgia's defense,
come on, he can't stop a good offense. Alabama got
pushed around by Indiana. People often ask is the America
can dream possible? Damn straight, It's called Indiana. Who's your football?
From pathetic to powerful, awful to awe inspiring, doormat to dominance,
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great coach, the right boosters, remarkable quarterback, they play real defense.
Is Indiana of the best tackling team that you've seen
in recent years? I mean they were a dog with
flees my entire life. Even in the league Corso days,
everybody loved them. They weren't very good, but I watched Indiana.
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You just change uniforms. This is a better college football.
This is a much much better college football. Not because
Alabama got housed. Because Ole Miss is now representing the South,
not Michigan or Ohio State or Penn State. Indiana's representing
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the Midwest. Impossible not to root for unless you're playing them.
We still have a West Coast power, We still have
an SEC. I don't know the Mendoza line. By the way,
if he's not the number one pick, I don't even
understand football. Fourteen of sixteen, three touchdowns, no picks, And
I don't know how you don't love Fernando Mendoza in
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postgame interviews.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
First of all, my team and I want to give
all the goor to God. What historic venue, the Rosebult
one of the best venues in all of sports. It's
just a great conglomerate of individuals coming together and really
forming complimentary football. Coach sig has hit on us no complacency,
and especially when you have a bye, it's tough to.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Get in the rhythm of football.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But once we got our few on the ground, we
knew that we're gonna stick together and come out with
this w.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I mean, I know what you're saying in a little
cringey I don't know. I don't want my quarterbacks to
be cool. That was Johnny manziel I like that number
one pick. Congratulations Raiders, try not to screw it up
all right. I want to talk about Miami beating Ohio
State because, again on a macro level, the best part
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of the NFL to me is that we really don't
know who the best football team is right now. We
may not know until two and a half minutes left
at the Super Bowl, and that's what college football is becoming.
I think Indiana is the best team, but maybe it's
all miss the Buckeyes. Last season, they lost at Oregon,
they lost to Michigan. They were the best team in
the end. And this year the Hurricanes, yeah, they lost
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to Louisville in mid October. It no longer wrecks your
season in the old system, if you were ranked like
ninth in like week nine or ten, get ready for
the Citrus Bowl season over, No Natty, not anymore. I
watched Miami play Pittsburgh in like week thirteen fourteen, beat
him thirty eight to seven. I came on the next day,
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I'm like, whoa, Yeah, Notre Dame can't get in. Miami's
getting like really good and bullying people. In fact, Indiana
is the only team in the country six and oho
against ranked teams. But it took a while to figure
that out, and they were almost left out because they
lost to an eight and four Louisville team that's won
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a lot of games over the last six or seven years.
College football today, and all the old timers push back.
It's a little bit more like the NFL. You're allowed
to stub your toe more than once. You can lose
even at home to arrival Ohio State last year, but
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you can get in. You can grow. Just like people
mistakes when you're fourteen or twenty four shouldn't be punitive,
mostly for life, and I mean the Steelers in the
Ravens play Sunny Night. You talk about flawed teams, I
can't wait to watch the winner gets into the playoffs.
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That's not a weakness, it's a strength of the NFL. Miami,
the Hurricanes are precisely what right about the new system
is that the candidate pool is broad for a very long,
long period. You have to beat good teams. Miami is
six and zero against ranked teams. We're gonna count every game.
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But you can lose to louisvill You can lose in conference.
It's okay, those weird conference games mid season. These kids
are going to class. There's only twenty hours a week
you can practice. All these teams are flawed. Michigan. Last year,
Ohio States, a twenty point favorite, loses to rival Michigan
that point fourd. They bulldoze people. It takes a while,
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and we know this in the NFL. We thought the
Rams were the best team three weeks ago. I hope
they beat Arizona Sunday. You don't know until you know.
And it used to be like week eight, Week nine,
Week ten, you're like, well, maybe we'll get to the
Fiesta Bowl, maybe the Citrus Bowl. Alamomoble, It's not the
way it works anymore. Super Mario, oh Chrystal ball after
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that lost to Louisville. Just like in life, it's a lesson.
He took a negative, he made it positive. He embraced
the team, he didn't bark. He said, we need to
be relentless, and that's exactly what they were in their
win over Ohio State. And here's Super Mario after.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
We don't think we have arrived by any stretch, but
we certainly think we're getting better. And when you play
a team like that, that's been the number one defense
in the country the entire year. You have to after
they converted the third and eighteen and then the touchdown
drive at the end and then to you know, finish
it off with an interception. Those are all Those are
great counter punches. Those are just really like left hooks
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to the body into the head. Those are great, great
counterpunches by our team.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I think Indiana is going to I think meet Miami
in the National Championship, But like the NFL, I'm not sure.
I think Indiana buy a field goals, probably the best
team in the country, but Miami, who stumbled mid season,
has not lost to a ranked team, won a road
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game against A and M. And I mean they didn't
just beat Ohio State, they beat up Ohio State. So
I love where we're at in this sport. Give me
more of Indiana all missing a shootout Oregon that's always entertaining,
and the Canes. Kaynes Row was good for college football,
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got a personality jmck that was I'd like to say
it's crazy, but it's not. After watching last year where
Ohio State loses a huge favorite of Michigan, You're like,
is Ryan Day going to get fired? And they just
I mean, they just rolled through people until this year
when they lost to Indiana, and they lost to Miami.
By the way, Ohio State lost to two teams that
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had a similarity, great defensive fronts that pressure the quarterback
and push you around. Dana is a tough team. First
of all, they're so well coached to make no mistakes,
and they run the ball so they're very physical. And
then they have the best quarterback by a stretch in
college football. Indiana's going to be a tough.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Out, very tough.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I was blown away by the Trinidad Chamberliss story last while.
I mean, I can't stop reading about this kid. A
year ago, he's playing, you know, Division two, winning a
national championship. Now he's doing unbelievable stuff. I don't even
have like a comparison for him in the in the NFL,
I was thinking Johnny Manzel, like he's running around doing
wacky stuff and.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It all works.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, I said, I don't know. It was week eight
or nine. I remember either going to acts or going
on the show, and I said, I get Dak Prescott vibes,
A little smaller Dak Prescott vibes. Where now Dak moved
very very well in college and wasn't as big and
bulky as he is now. He didn't have a very
good old line a Mississippi State. I get little Dak vibes.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
But he's going to be up against it against this
Miami front.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Oh, a little bit of a different beast.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah, George, what happened to the Georgia defense, Colin, This
is Georgia defense.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
It's all in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I saw no pass rush, I mean, and anytime they blitzed,
he's out running guys.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
That was a fun game last night. Oh, it was
a great game last night.
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Speaker 1 (11:55):
Steelers Ravens Sunday Night going to be ugly, but the
headlines I'm reading this morning illustrate what's at stake. Here's
one of them. Aaron Rodgers anticipates having options if he
wants to play next year. The Steelers signed Aaron Rodgers
for games like Sunday. Are Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh's
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jobs at stake? Here's another one. Lamar Jackson says he'll
play Sunday night. You'd hope it's like a season finale
of your favorite TV show. All the storylines and all
the plot lines are coming to a conclusion. Wrap a
bow on it, Sunday night. I do think if the
Ravens lose, the world doesn't necessarily end. John Harbaugh comes back,
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Lamar Jackson gets healthy, Derek Henry still productive. I like
their defense when healthy. You can just chalk it up to,
you know, Lamar wasn't right, But if the Steelers lose,
it's more like that Sopranos ending fade to black with
a lot of ambiguity. The Steelers are just not comfortable.
The Ravens are, but the Steelers are not comfortable with
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big sweeping change. For the Pittsburgh Steelers, a New Year's
resolution would be I'm gonna get a haircut this year.
They're not risk takers, they don't take big swings. They
keep paying their defense. I feel like every season's the
same for the last seven years. The offense is outdated
and dull. They don't have a quarterback for the future.
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They have a winning record, but they're not really super
Bowl viable. So I just don't see a path forward
for Pittsburgh. I do think Aaron Rodgers. I mean, if
I had a comeback Player of the Year based on
how he played with the Jets, I'd give it to
Aaron Rodgers. They got nothing to work with because DK
metcalf because of that issue with a fan, He's not
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going to play again. They don't have a number two receiver,
and now Washington, the big tight ends hurt, So it's
a little warrant running back Aaron trying to stay away
from turnovers? Can you win? Fourteen to thirteen? Kudos to Aaron.
I think he's got a really good year. So I
think Mike Tomlin to me, should pull a Sean Payton.
Wrap it up with a team that did very well
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Super Bowls and then go broadcast for a year. You'll
be great at it like Peyton was, and then do
a reboot and find another franchise that needs your guidance,
your mentorship, your toughness, your resilience, and your leadership. But
as far as Aaron Rodgers on the possibility this could
be his last game, heck of a season for him,
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all things considered, here's Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
You know, I don't know that I've taken time to
ponder that. I'm just committed to making sure that it's not.
He's certainly been an awesome contributor to our efforts, and
not only from a talent perspective and an experienced perspective,
but just his professionalism, his relationship with the game, his
love for his teammates, and his willingness to help them
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grow and get better and gain better understanding each and
every day has been has been cool to be a
part of.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, it will be really ugly, it'll low scoring, I think,
because it's the Ravens and the Steelers, it will be close.
I think if Lamar plays, it's hard for me to
see the Ravens losing, though they get sloppy, and the
Steelers with Aaron don't turn it over. So I think,
you know, if Pittsburgh, you told me right now, picked
up a fumble and rented in for six to keep
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it close, that would be their route to win. They've
done that on more than one occasion this year. They
gave Drake May if I recall his worst effort. So
Pittsburgh's got a shot, a puncher's chance, a puncher a
tough puncher's jaw. But I like Baltimore in this spot.
But if the Ravens lose, I feel better about the future,
and I feel the last seven years for the Steelers
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it's basically been a rerun J Mack with a news.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
No, this is the herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You got it there? Oh the mic won't work. That's okay, buddy,
just more of me talking. I think, all right, let
me do a story before we go to Herdline. And
I was gonna put this instead of the Ravens Steels.
(16:14):
But the whole thing about Georgia losing late. I thought
Georgia would win, and I thought they were the better
team for chunks of the game. But I will say this,
when Lane Kiffin left, my take was, well, like a
lot of us, he's mobile and he's taking a better job.
I was okay with that. I did ask the question,
(16:35):
are you sure you can't get to the Natty with
Trinidad Chambliss, who didn't start the year as the starting quarterback.
But I watched this kid, and all I'm saying is
Lane Kifvin has value. But he's a little small for
the NFL. Right, He's a little slight, only two hundred
pounds for the NFL. But my takeaway watching him is
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that he's not coach dependent, and I don't think Fernando
Mendoza is necessarily coach dependent. But he's better at Indiana
that he was at cal. But I love watching this
kid play and it's going to be very interesting to
see if the Sunday people like him. I get Dak
Prescott vibes, but small quarterbacks don't last long in the NFL.
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But my takeaway in this game was I don't think
Old miss is as good as Indiana. I don't think
they're as good as Oregon. I don't think they're as
good as Miami. I think the SEC team that got
in has the worst defense of the four teams and
is the worst of the four teams. But this kid's
a remarkable story. He did not start the season as
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the starting quarterback. He's from something called Big Rapids Michigan,
which can't be that big because I've never heard of it.
So I thought it was interesting. Before the game the
sideline interview, they asked him how do you stop Cambliss
in this offense? And he kind of rambled on, and
at the end of it, I was thinking, that's not
really an answer on how to stop him, And then
you watch the game and you're like, because he didn't
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necessarily have a solution to stop him. So here was
Trinidad Chambliss, a remarkably fun quarterback to watch, impossible not
to root for when you look at his story. Here
he is after the win, and.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
We're not really focused on like destiny or anything like that.
We just want to play ball and have fun. A
lot of people did doubt us before the season, and
they still doubt us when you know our coach left.
So we just want to play ball and have fun.
And I think that's showing right now.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So I know everybody else was doubting us this season.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
With the goal of this season of watch Trinidad came
was to compete for a championship, and that's something that
we're going to do around here on a consistent basis.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, I can I can defend Lane Kiffin moving, but
I do wonder and I watched enough old mister in
the season. I'm like, they could score their way to
the final four. I don't think they're good enough defensively
to win a national championship. In Indiana, Miami all significantly
better defenses, but they're an easy team to root for
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because of that kid who does give me dak vibes.
I don't know how it translates to the next level.
But seventy one percent completion percentage, five touchdowns, no picks
so far in the college football playoff. And here is
Jmack with the news. Heard on the news.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
All right, let's start with the Orange Bowl colin fun
game between Oregon and Texas Tech. If you like sloppiness
and defense. It was kind of an ugly one. Oregon
comes out on top twenty three nothing. The Dutch force
four turnovers, held Texas Tech to two hundred fifteen yards.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Here's Dan Landing afterward.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
We've talked to our guys about being battle tested all
year and then have to win in different ways.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And that game went back and forth in a lot
of ways.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
You know, struggled at times to go score points in
Our defense did an unbelievable job getting the ball back.
Our offense showed up when it mattered most there at
the end of the game. Out of our players, the
resiliency that they showed, their ability to stay calm and
poised and collected under pressure. It's not easy in big moments,
but these guys have shown improven time after time. These
two guys up here, that team in that locker room
(20:14):
have shown time and time again that they're ready for
big moments.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, Finny had quite a game. I think Oregon's really good.
They could have just kicked field goals in one and
it should be it should be noted James Madison blown out,
Tulane blown out, and Texas tank from the weakest conference
totally absolutely dominated. I hope this is a little bit
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instructive to the committee that you can want to be inclusive,
but football is about depth, a regulated level of violence,
elite players, elite coaching staffs. The little guy got pummeled.
Three little guys got absolutely pummeled in this playoff and
were left. Now, the uniforms may be different, but Miami's
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got NFL dudes everywhere, SODA's Oregon, SODA's Indiana all miss
offensively does so, you know, it's just like watching this game,
you're like, Okay, this is the worst of the final
eight teams. They went and bought a defensive front, but
they offensively, they're just not competent. They're not good enough
to be here.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Well, they might have beat Alabama yesterday. Alabama was terrible.
I'll just say this. Did you notice that the three
teams of all the teams that played last week, three
of the four to one come and last year it
was four or four. So a big edge is not
sitting out and not getting the buy and if you bet,
by the way, the first quarter a clean, sweet easy
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money on the teams that played the week prior. And
I wonder if the committee's going to think about changing that,
because you know, if you think the buye is some
big edge, it's not.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Texas Tech look asleep for most of that game.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Could you make the layoff less? Could you move the
college football up like eight to nine days so you
don't have eighteen days off, you've got ten.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
It was close to like twenty two.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, I think that's I mean football. We've talked about
this in pro football. There is no edge. The only
edge to having a buy now in the NFL there's
only two AFC NFC is you're at home, so you're
more comfortable. But football, unless you're an old team like
Philadelphia and you've got some O line injuries by and
large like the Seahawks the Ravens, if you start looking
(22:29):
at all these teams. I guess the Ravens if they
could get a day off or a week off with ball.
You know Lamar's injuries. Most football teams in the NFL.
Seattle's young, the Rams defense is young. You want to
play New England's young. You don't want time off. And
for these rosters that are twenty year old kids, I
don't need. If you give a twenty year old kid
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twenty three days off, they're gonna lose focus. I think
it's pretty clear.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I'm just curious to your thoughts on Dante Moore, who
didn't like the World on fire. I know you think
it's a blow. It was thirteen nothing with like twelve minutes. Well,
Texas Tech just couldn't generate offense.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
But if you I didn't see an awesome game from.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Dante k If you put Ty Simpson, Dante More and
Fernando Mendoza up against each other, there is a massive gap.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I mean, I think Fernando Mendoza regardless going forward, he
is the number one slam dunk quarterback, size, accuracy, moves
better than most people think. I think Dante More is
just a kid. I think he needs another year. I
think the Texas tech defensive front's good, but it was
sloppy and ugly and penalties and this is what we
predicted on Wednesday. I said it's gonna be an ugly game.
(23:37):
Dante more is gonna probably struggle a little with that
defensive front, and that's what happened.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
So do you if he comes out Jets at three? Oh,
that's gonna that. I mean, I like Dante Moore. I'm
here at Jared Goff comparisons. By the way, Ty Simpson
moves better than Dante Moore. He's not like this scrambling,
fun fast quarterback. He's It wasn't a great game. We'll
see what he does in the rematch against Indiana. All right,
let's move on to the NFL. Eagles are resting a
(24:03):
lot of starters this week Colin against the Commanders in
Week eighteen.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Including Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Philly's offensive strategy this year has been kind of touch
and go.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
It just hasn't been working.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Left tackle Jordan Milatta still believes despite the ups and downs,
confidence is high.
Speaker 10 (24:20):
God we have I think we've been here before, We've
been downed before. We've had these same questions heading into
playoffs last year. You know, and so like for us,
it's just we welcome that challenge. It's not like we're
just pushing it under the corpit. We're doing everything we can.
We've been here before, we've been doubted, and every time
we've proven them all. That's why I have confidence, That's
(24:43):
why everyone does.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, there's a lot of new playoff teams, a lot
of in the AFC where you've got like a Jacksonville
you're like, you know, or or like New England or
now NFC at Chicago. It is different, Peyton Manning, US
don't say that there's regular season speed, there's playoff speed
and then their super Bowl speed and like playoff speed
is different. It is really really intense. As you pointed out,
(25:07):
when you have a bye in the college football playoff,
that first series or two, that team that just played
last week or you know, did not have a bye,
they're playing at a different speed. In the first Miami
was playing at a totally different speed than Ohio State.
So I Philadelphia, I think this is they're built to
(25:28):
win games in this postseason. I think that would be
a bad early round matchup for the Rams. I think
Seattle matches up with them pretty well. But outside of that,
they have a matchup advantage on a lot of these
NFC teams.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
To talk about teams that could use the bye, I
mean they can't get the buy, but Saquon Barkley could
use the rest. He hasn't been getting to anything. Lane
Johnson coming off injury. Jalen Carter, Who's gonna sit this week?
He had the shoulder issue. Like the Eagles are a
beat up team.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Remember the long playoff run last year.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I think they're going to be fine, and I'm starting
to lean toward them coming out of the out of
the NFC column. I know you're a Seattle guy, but
this Eagles team, man, if they got healthy. Final story
is the New York Giants head coaching search. Let's just
say it's swinging into high gear under Joe she Colin.
Prominent reporters who are credible are putting together a list
(26:19):
of guys.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Mike McCarthy a name we've been talking about on the
show for months. He's at the top. The rest of
the guys defensive guys. Jeff Hafley of the Packers, Chris
Shula of the Rams, Jesse Mentor of the Chargers and
former Raider head coach Antonio Pierce, who pretty clearly is
going around telling everybody, see, I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
The problem last year.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
They sting.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I don't know if you're a Giants fan or you
kind of inspired by by this list, so I'll laugh.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I think Mike McCarthy may not excite you. You're not
gonna win the press conference. But won a lot of
games when Dak was upright, twelve wins a year, and
Dall when he had Dak and he was winning a
lot of games. He and Aaron Rodgers went sideways. Some
of these coaches, you know, Lane Kevin at LSU is
gonna win the press conference. Mike McCarthy is never going
to win a press conference. But I think he's a
(27:12):
very capable coach. I really do.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
McCarthy is definitely not taking this job before finding out
what's up in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay, did you get the.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Dents to coach Joe Burrow? Should the chief Bengals run
off their head coach?
Speaker 5 (27:24):
That's the most prominent job in the market, and who knows?
Just Buffalo flame out in one round? And would you
rather coach Jackson Dart or Josh Allen? Like, come on,
I think McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Is that way.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I think the Cincinnati job is more perilous than you do.
Burrow's health upstairs. Beyond frugal, they don't make free agent moves.
Everybody feel, even their star players who they drafted, there's
always a holdout field to it. I think Cincinnati is.
I mean, if you look at the Bengals history, they've
actually been so good drafting the most important position. Go
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back to Anderson, to Carson Palmer or Boomer a Siasin
and Andy Dalton and Joe Burrow. They always always every
decade the Bengals get quarterback right, And what do they
have to show for May? What's the common thread in
that upstairs? So I don't think the Bengals job is
one I would take. I love Burrow, but you and
(28:20):
I've talked about this. If Burrow has one more injury,
don't you have to draft the quarterback? Don't you have
to think about it?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I think you probably got to do what do that?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Anyway?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
But I'm curious.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Jackson Dart is the AP feeling and you got the
number two pick.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, the Giants roster isn't bad. Skataboo comes back. Jackson
Dart A lot of energy. I've been arguing this for years.
I've been proven wrong. But I think the Giants actually
have some good players. I just it's just a weird franchise.
Who has more better players. Giants are Eagles. Eagles by
a mile.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Okay, Giants are Cowboys Giants.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh, you just know the Cowboy players. You know Sadia,
you know Dak. I do like the Cowboys O line
in run blocking. They're not good in passtro, but they're
good run blockings, all right. J mclens Well, that's the
news and thanks for stopping by the Herd Line News.
Blazing five A lot of favorites.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I like.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
A lot of favorites. Four out of my five picks
I like favorites. Also, some thoughts on Caleb Williams. Tomorrow
night in what could be one of the games of
the season. I think it's going to be the Seattle
Seahawks at the Niners. Darnold and brock perty We're gonna
go to our big board. We always do this in
(29:42):
the biggest of games, ten best players. I think you'll
be surprised by that.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
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Speaker 4 (29:58):
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Speaker 5 (30:02):
San Diego tonight seven thirty Eastern, four thirty Pacific on Fox.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I trust you will be watching. I'm going to watch
the Niners Seahawks tomorrow night. I think it's gonna be
great if Sam Donald beat San Francisco and the Seahawks
get the number one seat in the NFC. I am
smoking a cigar on the set in La Monday with
the I Told You So budget. I like Sam and
a lot, and it's really more the journey than the quarterback.
(30:30):
I think he's a very good quarterback. Bit reckless at times,
but a very good quarterback. But a lot about quarterbacking
in the NFL is survival just sort of like all
of our twenties, right, Like Mahomes gets Andy Reid out
of college and Voe Nicks gets Sean Payton. That's like
being bored into a trust fund. It's hard to screw
it up. But Sam Donald, twenty year old, goes to
(30:52):
the Jets bad head coach front office over at SKIS.
That's like the rest of us when we're twenty we've
got student loan debt our boss is a jerk car
keeps breaking down that that's like, that's a real twenty
year old experience. And that's what Sam Donald had, you
know what I mean, your mom and dad get divorced.
That's how a lot of us for in our twenties.
(31:13):
And so I think Donald's an easy guy to root for,
and I think brock Perty's got a little bit of that,
although we got Kyle Shanahan being the last guy draft
at Iowa State, he's easy to root for. But I
think it's a battle of two quarterbacks, Donald and Purty
on heaters with a lot of skeptics, and here's Sam
Donald on the showdown.
Speaker 11 (31:34):
At the end of the day, it's just football, you know.
And I think that's the best part about it is,
you know, people want to make it a little bit
bigger than it is.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
But we're just going out there.
Speaker 11 (31:43):
We're playing against the Niners, a really good football team,
a team that we're going to be prepared for, and
you know it's going to be great though. You know
the fans are going to be into it. It's gonna
be a great atmosphere. But other than that, it's it's football,
and we'll be ready.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
To go for it. So in big, big regular season games,
I pull out the big board and I say, let's
see who's got the ten best players. You cross your fingers.
If Trent Williams and George Kittle can play, I think
they will. I think in terms of highest end players,
San Francisco's got more of the ten best players in
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this game. I think Christian McCaffrey's the best. Jsn is second,
then George Kittle and Trent Williams. All three of those
Niners are Hall of famers, then Donald and Brock Purty
five and six. I don't care who you put in front.
If you like Purty, put in five, Donald six. But
I do think the depth is not close. I think
Seattle's roster defensively, this is a mismatch Byron Murphy, Devon Witherspoon,
(32:44):
Nick Eman, Wori, DeMarcus Lawrence. If I went to fifteen,
it'd be mostly Seattle players. So I think if Kittle
and Trent Williams play, this is a really really good
football game. Blazing five. It's one of my picks. But
we've got to be honest here in terms of depth
and youth and speed and defense. It's a little bit
(33:06):
of a mismatch. This Seattle roster is stacked. I want
to go and again, I love Donald. I think it's
the journey is the part that I appreciate because I
you know, I hear all the time about twenty year olds.
It's hard for twenty year olds to get jobs. It's
hard for twenty year olds in my generation. It's hard.
(33:27):
Twenties are hard. You don't make a lot high expectations.
Your first job usually stinks. But I think what what
Donald's been able to do, it really proves the quarterbacking
in this league. A lot of it is not how
you start, it's how you finish. It's survival. Can you
overcome that first awful boss, that first awful job, And
that's what Donald's done. I want to go back to
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Indiana beating Alabama. One of the things that is really
hard is that college football has always been sort of
a trick addition sport. It's got an older fan base.
The NBA fan base is much younger than the college
football fan base, and traditions incredibly powerful. That's why these
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fans have so much trouble letting go of these unwatchable,
awful Bowl games. I've been watching the Shakrish ball and
they're unwatchable. There's nobody at these games, and the ratings
have got into the tank. But I think people forget
this Indiana. The last two years in college football, not
(34:31):
Alabama has had the best point differential. They've been beating
the crud out of everybody the last couple of years.
They have the number one red zone offense, the number one,
number two scoring defense. They have a better record the
last two years than Notre Dame, Georgia and Ohio State. Yeah, Indiana,
but it's like the Coke Pepsi taste test. Pepsi won
(34:55):
it forever. But you know, you've always been drinking Coca
Cola and your parents did, your brother did everybody? Did
you see the commercials and so was Coca Cola is better.
I remember years ago Pepsi was winning all those taste
tests consistently, And yeah, it's funny. I live in a
neighborhood that's got a Peach coffee in a Starbucks. I
(35:17):
like peach coffee Starbucks's packs. I can't get a coffee
at Peach in thirty seconds Starbucks. I'm sitting waiting in line.
You know, marketing is powerful. Indiana is really good. I
think Indiana is the best team I had predicted Wednesday.
I said they're gonna blow Alabama out. Indiana told her
Ban Mayer Indiana was gonna blow Alabama's doors off because
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I watch a lot of college football, and I'd watched
the Alabama play six or seven times. They couldn't run
the football and you never knew what you were going
to get. I watched Indiana five or six times this year,
ten times last couple of years. When Indiana went to
Oregon and thumped Oregon, that game was not as close
as the score they thumped Oregon. Ohio State went to
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Oregon last year and lost. Oregon is always good, always
top six or seven, and Indiana went there and thumped them.
It was like, Oh, this isn't a good story. This
is a really good team. In fact, the only team
I think matches up with Indiana is Miami. I don't
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know if Oregon matches up. They didn't earlier this year,
and ole Miss does not match up at all with Indiana.
I think Miami does. I think the way to beat
Indiana you gotta stop the run game. You gotta make
Fernando Mendoza really uncomfortable, and I think Miami has the
ability to do that. But it's a brand thing. It's
(36:45):
just it's hard to get over Indiana Hoosiers thumping Alabama.
They didn't beat Alabama, they imposed their will, They inhumiliated them.
You're gonna blame Caitlin to Bull all you want. INDI
hands a much better team, and I got to tell you,
Indiana is the best coach team I've seen in a
(37:06):
long time. When Bama went to try to pull them
off sides on the fake punt when Ty Simpson was
in the game, went to the line to try to
fake Indiana out, Hoosiers were totally prepared for it. So
Kurt Signetti. The other thing I love about the Indiana story,
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and this is why I gave Belichick a fighting chance
at Carolina. It used to be I always thought college
football was a young man's sport because you were on
the road going to all these high school games recruiting.
But college football now, this is why Whittingham at Michigan,
I think he'll be pretty good, great, I don't know,
he'll be pretty good. A lot of college football now
is staff building and administrative. I mean, you're right in
(37:48):
your check you get out the check book. If you
got the right donors, you're buying seven or eight starters,
high end starters. So Indiana's got good business school. A
lot of graduates made a lot of money. They're giving back.
They found a coach, he's a good administrator, he's got
an excellent staff. His offensive coordinator probably in the next
couple of years, gets a big job. But it's I
(38:11):
think this is just so good for the sport. Everybody
in college football and I understood it. I was talking
to somebody last night about this. College football fans are older,
and older Americans love their traditions and a lot of
traditions Augusta. It's great. There's a lot of old stuff
I like. But college football traditions were I mean really,
(38:32):
outside of the Rose Bowl, you could have most of them. Yeah,
I don't know. Give me Michigan, Ohio State, give me
a Rose Bowl. A lot of this stuff was you
were you had to force yourself to really argue. It's
really fascinating. I what we're watching now is unbelievable. We
are just Indiana. It's I know you're all going like
(38:54):
because even Miami. You've seen Miami be like physical and great.
You know you all missus had some way Lane Kiffin.
Last several years, you've seen old mis draw forty on people.
You've seen Oregon now since the Chip Kelly Mike Bollotti days,
you've seen them in big games rolling people. Indiana is
like what and all Nick Saban's buddies are telling them, yeah,
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you guys are gonna crush him. No way, and he
has way better, way better. I think everybody when I
said the other day I said Indiana is going to
blow Alabama out, people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I
would have gotten less pushback if I'd have said Bama's
going to blow out Indiana. In fact, I told a buddy,
Who've got a lot of money on this game, I said,
I cannot believe how many people are online or on
(39:40):
TV saying Bama's gonna win comfortably. Have you watched Have
you watched Alabama play? Indiana is so much better than Alabama.
Forget the coaching, Who's got better players, way better at quarterback.
Their receivers maybe aren't quite as good, but front end back,
the defense, the old lines much better. So college football
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has never been more transitional, and that transitional nature of
it the portal is is. I think Indiana is now
a beacon of optimism and a beacon of hope for
the sport. I mean, when you think about Indiana most
of our lives, it was Bobby Knight, I mean that
was it. And if you really followed academics, you're like
(40:24):
good business school. Oh, Bloomington's kind of a cool town.
You never thought football, Well, those days have changed, and
I really am I don't necessarily think people are saying, ooh,
Kurt Signetti, take another job. This is what I said
about Lane Kiffin. I'll defend you taking LSU. But if
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Ole Miss has the right boosters, you're watching Old Miss
with this coaching staff. I don't know. I don't know
if you can win a Natty at Old Miss, but
if you can win one at Indiana and their favored
to than you probably can the old traditional great jobs.
(41:07):
Right now, Indiana football is better than USC sorry and
Alabama and Clemson. I'm sorry. It is blazing five neck
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