August 5, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin expresses his appreciation for the Olympics as the uniter of sports fans during divisive and combative times outside of sports
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beautiful Pacific Northwest. One hour from now, Where Colin was right,
Where Colin was wrong. A'm Michael Red, former NBA or
one hour from now will stop by as well to
talk about the men's team USA, which is rolling beat
Puerto Rico over the weekend. So I was thinking about this,
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gotta be very careful. I tend to put my phone
down for the weekend, and I do that for a reason.
There's a lot of bad actors and grifters on the
internet who literally make money on clicks. I don't I
make it in radio. I make it in TV. I
don't make my money in clicks. I make it in podcasting.
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I make it in downloads. You have to consume my show.
I don't make it in clicks. But there's a big
world of people. That's where they make their money. Scaring
you this morning. The stock market, the end is near, No,
it's not. Actually, the Fed's gonna drop the rates here
in September, probably again in November. So for those wanting
to buy a home, actually the best possible scenario is
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the market cools off, comes down, rates come down twice,
probably should have been dropped about six months ago, and
then you buy on the dip. Panic is the time
to buy. That's how rich guys get richer. But again
that doesn't get the clicks. It's much better to create
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a TV show that says, oh, we found ghosts in
an old hotel. Those shows sell not Yeah, there's really
no ghosts and there's no real video. And there used
to be a guy that would go on Johnny Carson's
show and he would prove that all the magicians it
was just fake. Johnny Carson loved him because Johnny Carson
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loved to rile. People up and love magic and he
was hated, hated, polarizing, But we all know magic's fake.
Their job is to create illusions, and that's a lot
what we have today out there, the illusion that the
world is ending, the doomsday grifters. And so what does
that mean for sports? Well, I'm in TV. The Olympic
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ratings for NBC have been stabbed, gigeringly, good, massive, much
better than expected. But what's also interesting? So are the
ratings for Copa America on Fox and for the Euros
and for the WNBA. Well, well, Colin, there's nothing on now. Duh.
There's nothing ever on in July and August, so they're
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beating their own ratings. There's nothing ever on now. What
do you think the NFL is just every other year
opening up real football games. Second week of July, COPA
crushed COPA ratings. The Olympics is crushing Olympic ratings. It's
a real story. What's happening. Cable TV subs are going away,
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nobody watches TV yet the ratings are through the roof COPA, Euros,
Olympics WNBA. Why because it's an election year and increasingly
we're being fed doomsday scenario, and people want to be happy,
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so people are putting down their phones and turning on
something that makes them feel happy. Caitlin Clark Copa America
the Summer Olympics. Americans are much more united than anybody
on their iPhone would acknowledge. But that's hard to sell.
We really all want the same things, but we watched
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different news channels for it. But people are tired of
the anks. This weekend, I turn on CNN, didn't plan to,
but they had a Kamala Harris specially it was like
two hours. I didn't plan to watch it, but what
I noticed between her and the other guy running is
she smiled a lot, she was happy, she laughed. It
wasn't constant finger pointing in grievance, and I found myself
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sitting there for two hours. It was kind of uplifting.
It didn't really matter because I don't know much about
Kamala Harris other than what I read, but it was
like uplifting. And that's why I'm watching so much of
the Olympics, and I watched so much much of Copa
and the Euros on Fox. Yesterday. I went I went
to lunch with my daughter. It was a nice day
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out all I saw young couples, smiles, dogs, fun, people laughing,
playing pingpong outside. People are happy. You would never know
that if you sit staring at your iPhone all day.
So my point being today is you are getting record numbers.
And I'm not talking like beating it by eight percent. No, no, no.
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The Olympics, COPA, EUROS, WNBA doubling, tripling, smashing ratings because
it's positive. We want the best in US, and we
also root for our friendly neighbors to the north, Canadian athletes,
and we also are rooting emotionally for Ukrainian athletes. That's
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what TV indicators are telling me. In this business, people
really do want good news. You become what you seek.
You become what you consume. You become and what you eat,
and you become what you watch on TV. And despite
what the doomsday grifters are selling you, increasingly, it is
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crystal clear that Americans want Americans to thrive. We're rooting
for Caitlin Clark, COOPA, EUROS, the Olympics, and you don't
have to be from here. We have a lot in common.
We're more united than anybody's gonna let you believe, and
that person at the grocery store. That person on that
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park bench may be voting for somebody that you don't like.
It doesn't mean everybody hates everybody. Beware of the grifters.
Congrats to NBC, Fox, ESPN for tremendous summer TV ratings.
When I've been lectured for years, it's all ending soon.
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I was told that about newspapers, The New York Times,
Wall Street Journal, Forbes. They're all doing just fine. So
I saw this story again talking about mixed messages. So
for years and years as a college football fan, we
all know the one thing you couldn't do. I mean
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it was a death penalty. And I'll pause for a second.
What was the one thing you couldn't do? And then
three years ago you could suddenly do it and you
were encouraged to do it and rewarded for doing it,
buying high school players. That's why my entire career, thirty
years of doing this, I've been saying this for thirty years.
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Everybody's paying everybody stop being a do gooder. Buckeye fans
pointing fingers, Oh yeah, you're not doing it. Michigan everybody,
sec George, everybody. I mean, it's kind of well known
that when Pete Carroll was rolling at USC, ed Orgeron
was as a defensive line coach. Boy USC could get
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defensive linemen like nobody else. I'll leave it at that.
But people that know, no, they got busted for Reggie Bush.
You think it was the only thing. And I'm supposed
to be a USC homer. Go look at John Wooden's
track record, his number one booster, So I Bobby Knight
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to the end resented him. The truth is, I'm told
to be outraged by pot and sports gambling, and I
never am, because if I wanted to smoke pot, not
saying I ever did, it was always available. And if
I wanted to bet with a bookie, not saying I
ever did, it was always available. Stop screaming at clouds.
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The latest controversy the NCED Double A, and I defended
Michigan all year on this. The NCED Double A has
obtained information that States investigators have seen that Connor Stallions
had scouted, impermissively scouted at least thirteen Michigan opponents on
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fifty eight occasions, including once when he was on the
Michigan State sideline the season opener wearing a bench pass
and a disguise. I actually think that's funny. I mean,
I worry more about Michigan State Security. Some guy walked
up with a crooked, fake mustache, dark sunglasses on a
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cloudy day and gave the name Patty O Furniture and
they let him in. I'm not worried about Michigan. I'm
worried about Michigan State Security team. Come on, my name
is Kent c Straight, here's your pass. So for the record, everybody,
just like cannabis and sports gambling, everybody's stealing signs, they
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just do it differently. I do not believe that guy
in the TV picture is the difference between Michigan and
Ohio State. I think it was a better coach, better planning,
and more physicality. But you will go ahead and blame
the guy in the crooked mustache. But over the last
three years, the same timeline of the allegations against Michigan
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and Connor Stoun's, over that same timeline, there has been
not only an acknowledgement but a reality of college football
that the thing I was told would earn you the
death penalty buying a high school player is not only legal,
it's encouraged. Baylor football coaches at fall practice this weekend,
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we're wearing shirts that said we pay players. So I
was told as for years, I said, everybody's paying everybody.
Texas has lambos out front for recruits, Baylor coaches, we
pay players. I was told for years this was our
And I said, I know programs, I know college athletes,
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I know guys in the NFL, the stars were getting
paid just like for years and years. Ooh, pot, cannabis legalization,
it's everybody I know that wanted to smote pot can
buy a bag anytime they wanted to. Wasn't ending America? Well,
I told sports gambling, Oh, the NFL for years, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible.
The minute it was legal first, people in the NFL.
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Stop trying to sell me outrage. Stop trying to tell
me stuff is a stigma. Pot. I grew up in
Washington State. It's like the state plant. I worked in
Vegas for seven years. Everybody was betting sports. If you
wanted to make a bet in the game, you could.
So now I'm supposed to believe fake mustache guy in
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the sidelines. That's changing outcomes. Come on, man, that's outrageous.
You can buy high schoolers not even high school seniors.
Their programs just so it gets good publicity. They'll go
spend one hundred and fifty bucks in a defensive tackle
his junior year. He may not even show up. Somebody
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else will outbit him on signing day and get the
kid that the schools spent one hundred and fifty thousand
bucks for so my whole life. It's criminalizing this. It's criminalizing.
The NFL was so anti betting for years. They wouldn't
let Tony Romo, who's now at CBS. They wouldn't let
Tony Romo go to like a fantasy football convention in Vegas.
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What everybody plays fantasy football. The NFL was outraged the
minute the Supreme Court ruled yeah, sports gamblings legal of America.
All the NFL owners first guys in, we're buying parts
of this, this this, this company owns part of FanDuel.
I got no problem with it. Why would I? I
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lived in Vegas for seven years. So I think Connor
Stallions has the same impact on Michigan football wins. I
believe that as much as you would have been a
Division one football player if your high school coach didn't
have it out for you. I mean between the grifters
on the internet selling you the world is ending today
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because of Wall Street and only one person can be
president or everything's going sideways, and that Connor Stallions is
the reason Jim Harball won, although he ended up dominating
in the NFL at Stanford at San Diego, he'll turn
the Chargers around.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
In an hour.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I'm sorry, slap them on the wrist. Bad guys. Shouldn't
have done that. But you know, Patty O Furniture with
a fake mustache got into a sidelines. If people were
really concerned that was changing outcomes, Connor Stallions wouldn't have
been anywhere near that bench. All right, Michael read. In
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less than an hour from now, I'm gonna talk about
Team USA. They are rolling. You know, something else really
really stood out for me on the men's basketball and
I do think it speaks well of our NBA stars.
And we'll talk about that coming up forty five minutes
from now. Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong.
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Speaker 1 (14:36):
So Team USA is three and Oho beat Puerto Rico Saturday.
They're the top seed and they're gonna win the Olympic
gold medal. I think you think everybody thinks. What I
do find interesting is that and kind of patriotism at
its core is very powerful, regardless of how poor or
rich you are. The numbers tell you that people are watching.
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But Team USA is fast because of all the athletes
from all the countries at these great Olympics in Paris,
the richest and the most famous are overwhelmingly outside of
maybe an occasional tennis player. Are men's basketball stars. Steph's
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worth five hundred million dollars, Lebron's a billionaire, Kd's half
a billionaire, shoe deals, contracts, these guys play forever, social
media production companies. They're very, very rich. And yet Kevin Durant,
one of the great get a basket players, top twenty
offensive player, maybe a top ten offensive player ever, is
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coming off the bench and is not bothered by it whatsoever.
Now as much as the top three or four players
in the world right now, Jokic, Yannis very quickly, Wemby
Luca maybe Europeans twenty of the twenty four NBA All
Stars last year were Americans. We have the most good
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players by a mile. Our only question is on a
game to game basis, Hey, which MVP candidate for the
Americans is out of the rotation tonight? Is it Ad
or Bam or Tatum or Booker coming off the bench.
I mean that those are our big questions. It is
also very clear, kind of surprisingly so how much Lebron
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remains at thirty nine, twenty two years in the NBA,
remains a mile ahead of every other American player in
terms of leadership. He not only leads in field goal percentage,
he leads in minutes played and assists. I mean, Jason
Tatum is excellent, but sometimes I'm not even sure if
Jason Tatum is leading the Celtics. Devin Booker is a
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tremendous score and that's about it. Tyrese Halliburton tremendous, young,
talented kid, Aunt Edwards phenomenal, rising, ascending, but not really
refined or a great leader. Yet Lebron leads this team
and the stuff that matters leadership, minutes played and assists.
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Scoring isn't that important because all these guys were prolific
high school, AAU college or pro scorers at some point.
Even the best defenders like a Derek White could drop
twenty eight and you wouldn't be surprised. The truth is
stories of MJ. And this is where MJ and Lebron
are very different. The stories of Michael at the Olympics
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are folklore, where the story of Lebron is right up
front to see, no secrets about it. It's called leadership,
uniting two young to lead guys and older guys who
respect Lebron so much they allow him to lead. It's
remarkable the best players in the world are all sort
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of allowing best Americans a thirty nine year old, no bitterness,
no fights at practice. No Lebron, you carry us. And
again that is the big difference between MJ and Lebron.
Michael's entire game was give me the ball and I'll
lead you there, and Lebron since high school has always
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been let's get there together. The most amazing stat about
Lebron is nothing in the Olympics or the NBA. It's
that in high school his junior year, he averaged like
twenty eight a game, and in his senior year he
could have averaged fifty, and he averaged only one point
more that At his core is how Lebron operates. Michael
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was give me the ball, get out of the way,
and I'll take you there, and he did six times
and Golds. Lebron has always been more collaborative, So this
Olympic version is really the best of Olympic men's basketball
leadership and sacrifice. Lebron doesn't need to be the highest score.
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He knows points come easy for us and Tatum Booker
ad bam AD's notice a defensive player. He can drop
twenty eight a game in the Olympics and Lebron knows that.
But what Lebron really adds is minutes, leadership, assists distribution.
And this is the way the Olympics should be. And
it speaks very well of our men's basketball players. NBA players,
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For whatever reasons, they often voice their opinion on politics.
Maybe that's it are viewed to somewhat polarizing. I don't
see it, but I mean, Lebron's never been in trouble.
Everywhere he goes, he wins. He's the best player everywhere.
Nobody plays with Lebron and doesn't end up having their
best years with him. I mean, this is the best
ad we've ever seen. We got the best, Jr. Smith,
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the best, Matthew Delavadova. We got the best d Wade
in my opinion, the Championship five every year, d Way.
But I like what I see. This is the way,
and this speaks well for our NBA stars. Katie's coming
off the bench, Tatum's coming off the bench. Guys are like,
so what it's not about that. That's a lot harder
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than you think. It's very easy to Well, they're all rich.
I know a lot of rich, bitter people. That's not it.
They are all willing to get behind Lebron. He's smiling,
he's happy, he bears the flag. Speaks well for Lebron,
and our NBA stars are American, wealthy, iconic stars, all
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in for the country. Ryan with the news, No, no
turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
This is the Herdline news, All right, Colin.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
We're nine practices into Jets training camp, including a ninety
minute intrasquad.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Scrimmage on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Aaron Rodgers has reportedly not shown any signs of rust
following his torn achilles and, according to Roberts AA, Rogers
looks like he never missed any time. And he's a
Hall of Famer for a reason. How are you feeling
about Rogers heading into this season with the Jets coming
off that Achilles' injury.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I think they'll be fine. He goes back and forth, like,
it's really interesting. You saw so much video coming out
of camp of you know, JJ McCarthy or Bo Nix
or Justin Fields. It's a lot of optimistic stuff, right,
Look at these young guys go. The Aarin video that
got out of camp was him screaming at ere at Wilson.
So I think you just have to you have to
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be honest about Aaron and what it is. You're gonna
get some drama. You're gonna get these podium press conferences, passive, aggressive,
taking shots at people. That's that's what you get. And
we can belly. It's like Dak's contract. It's just a
constant conversation. I swear to god, Dak just signed a contract.
We're talking about the next one he's gonna sign. That
one was like a two year news cycle. This one
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will probably be a nine month news cycle. You know,
Aaron is always what I expect him to be on
and off the field.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Sure, and we'll turn our attention to a an NFC
team now. Caleb Williams didn't play in the bears first
preseason game last week, but Shaydon Daniels in this Saturday's
matchup with the Jets. Although we don't know how many
drives have participated in, Daniels is ready for his NFL debut.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I'm very excited. I love the game of sports. I
love the game of football. I love playing it. I'm
very passionate. I love to compete, so going out there
would be a different challenge. I still got some way
to go, just a little stuff, go out there and
still competing. Obviously, will coach q DQ and have said,
but at the end of the day, their decision. I
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trust them fully of they're playing and stuff like that
and bring me law so as up to them at
this point. But for me, I'll just go out there
and how can I better myself each and every day
and just go out there and compete hard.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
So what I find interesting about him is this entire
organization has replaced everybody, owner, GM, coach, coordinator, quarterback. They've
literally replaced everybody, and that would seem like a bridge
too far, but that's what Houston did last year outside
of ownership, and they made the playoffs in the tougher AFC.
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So right now I have Washington in, but I don't think.
First of all, in the NFL, change is inevitable. Seven
coaches get whacked a year, So basically every four years
you turn over all your coaches not named Andy Reid.
Basically is how it works. So and even he lost
his job in Philadelphia. So change is inevitable. It's a
very fluid league. But there's this idea that if you
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like in most sports baseball, basketball, if you change everything,
it's a rebuild. It's not in football because the NFL
draft provides microwavable stars. You don't need years to cook it,
pop it in the microwave very quickly. Fo twenty three
year old guys come in. So if their draft picks hit,
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if Jade and Daniel's good, I have no problem in
a weaker conference, in kind of a weaker to vision.
You know, Philadelphia's roster is good, everybody else, Dallas top
heavy Giants, and mass Washington, and I can see him
making the playoffs. I don't know. I've talked a lot
about this with somebody that is closer to the Commanders
that I am, and it to go either way. Team
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like it do I worry defensive coach first year and
Jayden Daniels. Yeah, but that was Demko Ryans and CJ. Stroud.
And remember last year the number two quarterback ended up
being light years better than the number one quarterback situation.
So situational football matters a lot for young quarterbacks. If
you look at the Washington schedule, would you be surprised
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if they beat Tampa and hosting the New York Giants
and went two and zero to start the season. I
mean at Cincinnati at Cincinnati is tough, and at Baltimore
is tough, But I see a lot of potential wins.
I see a lot of two and a half point spreads.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Sure, I mean three and one is not totally out
of the question to start the season.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Absolutely, So I'm on the positive side of the Commanders today,
I think. And it's not just that they replace people.
They replaced people that were toxic, incompetent over their head.
So if you just get solid people you've gotten rid of,
you elevated your competency and you've alleviated eliminated your chaos.
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If Dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury and Adam Peters and
Jade and Daniels are B B minus. It's better than
the d's that.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Just left right.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
And to your point about that change, you know, Jaden
Daniels is a part of that change. This isn't a
situation like Baker Mayfield there and Alex Smith where they're
a young quarterback in a situation where now he's going
on his second or third head coach. This is going
to be a brand new system for him, regardless of which.
So if he comes in and adapts to Cliff Kingsbury system,
then he's a part of the new change developing in Washington,
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not some turned style of coaches where he's trying to
learn a new offense every season. More wrap up with this.
Despite Russell Wilson being in pole position for the starting job,
Justin Fields has been leaving a big impression during his
time in camp, so much so that Mike Tomlin recently
said both quarterbacks will get an opportunity to compete for
the starting role, and new offensive coordinator Arthur Smith had
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this to say about Fields, He's.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
A dangerous football player at the ball in his hands,
and so at logs, you get creative and you know,
maybe you change up a little bit of the defensive
game play and then he's done a good job. And
all our players at white out, quarterback, IDN, fullback, whatever age,
we didn't play our strengths, and certainly he adds a
different element.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, you know, when Russell went to Pittsburgh, I think
that it was kind of universally believed and I agree
with this. It was a great landing spot, great defense,
no chaos. They'd been bad at quarterback with Kenny Pickett,
that this was the perfect place to go. But it's
become increasingly clear once Justin Fields came to town and Russell's
got like a calf injury, that if Justin Fields, a younger,
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more relatable player, lights up practice, that's gonna go a
long way in tilting that locker room toward Justin Fields.
And I mean, the one thing Russell has struggled with,
and this is not my opinion, I have seen it
Seattle and Denver is connecting with teammates or coaches. Pete
Carroll failed on him, Sean Payton failed on him. So
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I thought this was the best place for Russell, and
I thought he was clearly a number one when Justin
Fields arrived. But now when you have an injury and
Russell hasn't been hurt that much, and he's out for
five practices and everybody loves Justin Field's and you know
he's gonna look great at practice because he's a playmaker,
and you know, practice it's a lot easier than games.
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And so I think this is a developing story where
these memories. If he has four or five great practices,
you go to a two game losing street, you can
lose that locker room really fast, really fast.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Yeah, it's gonna be fascinating with the team like the
Steelers is Russell feels like if he just goes into
game manager mode and doesn't lose games, the Steelers are
going to be competitive. So if they're constantly in that
five hundred zone and in the playoff mix late into
the season, will Tomlin want to shake things up? I
mean he was willing to do that with Kenny Pickett.
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I mean he moved off Kenny Picken was like, we'll
take our chances with the Mason Brudolf. So it's certainly
in Tomlin's demeanor to be able to take a chance
on changing it up at the quarterback position despite them
winning games and being in the playoff mix.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Ryan with the News.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd line news.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
So it created a little stir that Tyreek Hill. The
players voted for the top one hundred players in the NFL,
and the players voted for it. And the players always
love hyper athleticism. I mean years ago there was a
player poll and it was fifty to fifty half the
players liked Westbrook better than Steph Okay. So it's not
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surprising to me that Tyreek Hill, the fastest receiver, and
Lamar Jackson, the fastest quarterback, did very well in the
top one hundred, both over Mahomes. But it's it's not
only is it disrespectful to Patrick Mahomes. And I'm sure
Patrick Malmes is fine, he's secure in himself. But let's
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not forget what we have a history of. At any
one time in the NFL, there is this one receiver AB.
It's rarely two. It's this one receiver to Randy Moss,
ab des Bryant OBJ that gets a lot of attention.
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He's often big and different and unique a one handed catch.
He's the fastest guy. They're all noisy, and that's Tyreek Hill,
right like you. I know more about his contract. I should.
It's there's a quote every day. I'm not saying disruptive,
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but they tend to be noisy and go through contract
stuff and I know all about it. But it should
also be noted that since Tyreek Hill left, Mahomes Patrick
leads the NFL in passing yards and passing touchdowns. Yep,
he does. They've won back to back Super Bowls without him.
Patrick Mahomes indisputably has become a better quarterback, forced now
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to have ten play drives and not Lollypoppett over the secondary.
In this time, Tyreek Hill has zero playoff wins two
years in Miami. Zero. So my take is the only
best spectacular receiver that has a trophy is ab and
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that's because of Tom Brady. Those type of receivers, the fast,
the spectacular, the crazy talented, they get attention, they don't
get trophies. They tend to be a little higher maintenance
in terms of their contract than attention. You're seeing some
of this with Brandon Ayuk, terrific receiver. In fact, a
couple of years ago, I was criticized because I said
he was top three or four. He's probably about five.
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But I think he's tremendous, but I don't think he's
nearly as valuable as Trent Williams, the old left tackle
who is also holding out. They can live without Brandon Ayuk.
If Trent Williams retired today, the Niners are screwed because
the center right their own line's not great. So like
Trent Williams way more valuable than Brandon Ayuk, and I
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love Ayuk. I think he's terrific. But my point being
is it was not only disrespectful to Mahomes not to
put him number one, but they're winning without him more
without him, and passing for more yards without him, and
throwing for more touchdowns without him. The top ten most
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targeted wide receivers last year, four didn't make the playoffs,
and four didn't win a playoff game. The only receiver
who did was omor On Saint Brown, who is the
opposite of highly exposed, high maintenance or verbal. He's like
one of the quietest stars in the NFL, very Larry Fitzgerald.
(32:19):
You only see him in the end zone. You only
see him catching first down passes. So it's my takeaway,
and this Tyreek Hill stuff being voted number one, I'm
not surprised. He's hyper athletic, there's a Westbrook quality. He
wins enough, he's wild. You'd pay a ticket to watch him.
But it's it's not being acknowledged that these star receivers
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that the players fall in love with, they don't. They
don't go home with trophies. They really don't. And the
Chiefs are winning more, throwing for more touchdowns, more passing yards,
and indisputably mahomes a better quarterback. He has had to
develop a more precise, surgical game. He's had young receivers.
Bus receivers can't hang out to the ball receiver. He's
(33:00):
head and he keeps winning and leading the league and
all the important stuff. And I also wonder this is
weird way to look at it, but is Tyreek Hill
really costing you eighty three million a year fifty for
Tua and thirty two or thirty three for Tyreek Hill
or wherever they're paying him. Because his best games tend
to be September, October, November, but the most important games
(33:25):
are December, January and February in the NFL. So he
is giving Tua unbelievable production in the games over fifty
degrees that generally don't matter as much as the one
under forty degrees that decide trophies. So Tyreek Hill's regular
(33:46):
season dominance got Tua to a contract that I would
never want to sign. I'm not anti too, I just
don't think he's worth that money. Coming up next, Danny
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The sixth Central author of Pipeline to the Pros, fascinating
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Parkins on Twitter. He's joining me now, all right, Danny,
let's start with this. Caleb Williams didn't play in the
Hall of Fame Game. I don't know what's suspected of
his playing time in their first official game. How is
(34:55):
the talk in Chicago on your show? Your opinion on
him not playing again? It's vanilla schemes, a couple series.
What do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
So the only reason I advocated for him to play
one snap in the Hall of Fame Game was so
that at the end of his career, we could say
that his career started and ended in Canton. I thought
that that type of synergy would actually be really nice
because I'm obviously very bullish, I'm Caleb Williams. But they're
gonna do what the league trend seems to be here
(35:26):
with Caleb Williams. They've said between forty five and fifty
five snaps for him this preseason. C J Stroud got
forty three, Bryce Young got fifty four. Teams don't play
guys who matter in the Hall of Fame Game. The
Hall of Fame Game is to it's an infomercial to
celebrate a team that is there, that has guys like
Mango MacMichael and Devin Hester and Julius Peppers being enshrined
(35:46):
in Canton, and you get extra practices because you report
to training camp early. But if you look at who's
played in this game the last couple of years, I
mean it's Kellen Mond against Zach Wilson, Kyle Sloterer against
Jarrett Stidha, Garrett Gilbert against Mason Rudolph. That sounds to
me like Davis Mills against Tyson Bata, which is what
we got a couple of days ago. Caleb Williams does
(36:08):
not need to be playing in games that Garrett Gilbert
has started.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
In the past. Let me talk about this the Olympics.
Maybe I'm being corny, but I actually think the KOPA,
the EURO the WNBA, and the Olympic ratings are tied
together in an angry political time. They make me smile.
They make me happy. I'm proud of America. Am I
being corny at the massive Olympic ratings? Better than expected?
(36:35):
Your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
The Olympics is just great television and it's nice to
have it back looking like the normal Olympics in the
post pandemic world that we have. It's just spectaculally now
we understand why these TV networks did what they do
for it. So I think there's definitely something to your
theory because I know that whenever I get a news alert,
it's very doom and gloom, and so we are all
looking for things that we can rally by, like, hey,
(37:00):
we're all rooting for the same team, and that's nice
in a very polarized context. But I also think I
know nothing about any of this, and I can tune
in and in ninety seconds I know everyone's life story,
certainly the Americans life story who I'm rooting for, what
they've been through to get there. And I'm like sweating
(37:22):
on my couch, nervous with the parents of the girl
on the uneven bars, because they've built up their entire
life to get to this moment and one little thing
could be wrong and it's all over. It's the one
hundred meter dash that I mean, it's the purest sporting
event in the world. It's amazing. We have got the
fastest man in the world back here wearing the red,
white and blue, three one hundredths of a second slower.
(37:46):
Not only is he not the fastest man in the world,
he doesn't even get a metal between first and eighth
is point one two seconds, Like that is just an
astronomical amount of pressure that I don't know. I smile
during it, I root for it, I'm patriotic during it,
but I'm also like crying and stressed and sweating like
(38:06):
it just elicits a lot of emotions. Whenever you tune
into the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Two things can be true. Something can be valuable but overvalued.
I said this about number one receivers. There's always a
guy in the league, Moss too, ab Obj that we
just fall for, and I'm like, they never host trophies.
Mahomes is actually a better quarterback frankly without Tyrek, and
(38:30):
Tyreek is still great, but a weak armed quarterback and
a deep ball threat doesn't scream trophies in January and February.
I like Tyreek, but I think we overvalue the players
did in the poll. We kind of overvalue what you get.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
No, You're not wrong, But I honestly think, and this
goes back to the political point a little bit, the
polling is just off. Mitchell Schwartz, he's retiring now. Old
buddy in Mina covered him with the Chiefs All Pro
right tackle for the Chiefs. He shared on Twitter how
it works. He's like, the voting is done in Week fourteen,
you're not given a list of names to choose from.
(39:12):
It's just a blank sheet at paper with the team
logos around the perimeter of it. So the playoffs aren't
factored in. Some guys don't vote at all. Some guys
only put five names in. Some guys only vote for
their friends. And it's supposed to be about last season, Well,
who cares about just last season? I care about what
these players think about the whole career. But if it's
(39:33):
about last season, why is Aaron Rodgers on the list?
Why is Joe Burrow on the list? Why is my
guy Jalen Johnson, who was on your show a couple
of weeks ago and was excellent. He was second team
All Pro at cornerback, got a huge contract this offseason.
He's not on the list at all, So he's not
a top one hundred player based on last year. But
Aaron Rodgers, who played four games, is Tyreek Hill is
the best player? Mahomes is sport. It's all just ridiculous,
(39:56):
And I will say it makes me kind of happy
to be someone who looks like may like sixt nothing,
one hundred and nothing, who has these strong opinions about
the NFL, Because I can honestly be like see, I
can rank players better than the players can rank the players.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
It's kind of reaffirming the very talent at Danny Parkins,
Parkins and Spiegel in Chicago. By the way, one minute left.
If I told you as a sportscaster, who are you
rooting for to win the Steelers starting quarterback job? What
makes better topics for us?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Justin Fields? Yes, yeah, I got I just got done
covering Justin Field's every move for the last few years.
He is captivating television. Who has a better highlight reel
in the NFL the last two years than Justin Fields. Now,
there's probably thirty guys that are better quarterbacks than Justin
Fields put better highlight reel, better television, more compelling. He's
(40:50):
much more interesting than Russell Wilson. So the storyline is
Justin Fields. But I don't think either of these guys
is the Steelers answer at quarterback twenty twenty five and
beyond Parkins.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Good seeing you as Olas Bud appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Thanks. Colin talks too all right.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Love listening to him. Thoughtful guy Michael read next hour
Colin Wright, Colin wrong. You know the other thing about
the Olympics, women tend to be more supportive of each
other than men. It can be medical issues, socializing, helping
each other out. Katie Ledecki, Simone Biles, Caitlin Clark. Now
the w NBA stuff's gotten real petty and a lot
of you know, skirmishy, But in the Olympics women have
(41:30):
really captivated us. I mean it's it is unbelievable and
it is it's easy to pull Ford, not just because
there are athletes. It's really been a good watch
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Where Colin was wrong. A'm Michael Red, former NBA or
one hour from now will stop by as well to
talk about the men's team USA, which is rolling beat
Puerto Rico over the weekend. So I was thinking about this,
(01:08):
gotta be very careful. I tend to put my phone
down for the weekend, and I do that for a reason.
There's a lot of bad actors and grifters on the
internet who literally make money on clicks. I don't I
make it in radio. I make it in TV. I
don't make my money in clicks. I make it in podcasting.
(01:29):
I make it in downloads. You have to consume my show.
I don't make it in clicks. But there's a big
world of people. That's where they make their money. Scaring
you this morning. The stock market, the end is near, No,
it's not. Actually, the Fed's gonna drop the rates here
in September, probably again in November. So for those wanting
to buy a home, actually the best possible scenario is
(01:52):
the market cools off, comes down, rates come down twice,
probably should have been dropped about six months ago, and
then you buy on the dip. Panic is the time
to buy. That's how rich guys get richer. But again
that doesn't get the clicks. It's much better to create
(02:12):
a TV show that says, oh, we found ghosts in
an old hotel. Those shows sell not Yeah, there's really
no ghosts and there's no real video. And there used
to be a guy that would go on Johnny Carson's
show and he would prove that all the magicians it
was just fake. Johnny Carson loved him because Johnny Carson
(02:34):
loved to rile. People up and love magic and he
was hated, hated, polarizing, But we all know magic's fake.
Their job is to create illusions, and that's a lot
what we have today out there, the illusion that the
world is ending, the doomsday grifters. And so what does
that mean for sports? Well, I'm in TV. The Olympic
(02:58):
ratings for NBC have been stabbed, gigeringly, good, massive, much
better than expected. But what's also interesting? So are the
ratings for Copa America on Fox and for the Euros
and for the WNBA. Well, well, Colin, there's nothing on now. Duh.
There's nothing ever on in July and August, so they're
(03:20):
beating their own ratings. There's nothing ever on now. What
do you think the NFL is just every other year
opening up real football games. Second week of July, COPA
crushed COPA ratings. The Olympics is crushing Olympic ratings. It's
a real story. What's happening. Cable TV subs are going away,
(03:42):
nobody watches TV yet the ratings are through the roof COPA, Euros,
Olympics WNBA. Why because it's an election year and increasingly
we're being fed doomsday scenario, and people want to be happy,
(04:02):
so people are putting down their phones and turning on
something that makes them feel happy. Caitlin Clark Copa America
the Summer Olympics. Americans are much more united than anybody
on their iPhone would acknowledge. But that's hard to sell.
We really all want the same things, but we watched
(04:23):
different news channels for it. But people are tired of
the anks. This weekend, I turn on CNN, didn't plan to,
but they had a Kamala Harris specially it was like
two hours. I didn't plan to watch it, but what
I noticed between her and the other guy running is
she smiled a lot, she was happy, she laughed. It
wasn't constant finger pointing in grievance, and I found myself
(04:47):
sitting there for two hours. It was kind of uplifting.
It didn't really matter because I don't know much about
Kamala Harris other than what I read, but it was
like uplifting. And that's why I'm watching so much of
the Olympics, and I watched so much much of Copa
and the Euros on Fox. Yesterday. I went I went
to lunch with my daughter. It was a nice day
(05:07):
out all I saw young couples, smiles, dogs, fun, people laughing,
playing pingpong outside. People are happy. You would never know
that if you sit staring at your iPhone all day.
So my point being today is you are getting record numbers.
And I'm not talking like beating it by eight percent. No, no, no.
(05:27):
The Olympics, COPA, EUROS, WNBA doubling, tripling, smashing ratings because
it's positive. We want the best in US, and we
also root for our friendly neighbors to the north, Canadian athletes,
and we also are rooting emotionally for Ukrainian athletes. That's
(05:48):
what TV indicators are telling me. In this business, people
really do want good news. You become what you seek.
You become what you consume. You become and what you eat,
and you become what you watch on TV. And despite
what the doomsday grifters are selling you, increasingly, it is
(06:10):
crystal clear that Americans want Americans to thrive. We're rooting
for Caitlin Clark, COOPA, EUROS, the Olympics, and you don't
have to be from here. We have a lot in common.
We're more united than anybody's gonna let you believe, and
that person at the grocery store. That person on that
(06:31):
park bench may be voting for somebody that you don't like.
It doesn't mean everybody hates everybody. Beware of the grifters.
Congrats to NBC, Fox, ESPN for tremendous summer TV ratings.
When I've been lectured for years, it's all ending soon.
(06:52):
I was told that about newspapers, The New York Times,
Wall Street Journal, Forbes. They're all doing just fine. So
I saw this story again talking about mixed messages. So
for years and years as a college football fan, we
all know the one thing you couldn't do. I mean
(07:13):
it was a death penalty. And I'll pause for a second.
What was the one thing you couldn't do? And then
three years ago you could suddenly do it and you
were encouraged to do it and rewarded for doing it,
buying high school players. That's why my entire career, thirty
years of doing this, I've been saying this for thirty years.
(07:36):
Everybody's paying everybody stop being a do gooder. Buckeye fans
pointing fingers, Oh yeah, you're not doing it. Michigan everybody,
sec George, everybody. I mean, it's kind of well known
that when Pete Carroll was rolling at USC, ed Orgeron
was as a defensive line coach. Boy USC could get
(08:00):
defensive linemen like nobody else. I'll leave it at that.
But people that know, no, they got busted for Reggie Bush.
You think it was the only thing. And I'm supposed
to be a USC homer. Go look at John Wooden's
track record, his number one booster, So I Bobby Knight
(08:20):
to the end resented him. The truth is, I'm told
to be outraged by pot and sports gambling, and I
never am, because if I wanted to smoke pot, not
saying I ever did, it was always available. And if
I wanted to bet with a bookie, not saying I
ever did, it was always available. Stop screaming at clouds.
(08:44):
The latest controversy the NCED Double A, and I defended
Michigan all year on this. The NCED Double A has
obtained information that States investigators have seen that Connor Stallions
had scouted, impermissively scouted at least thirteen Michigan opponents on
(09:08):
fifty eight occasions, including once when he was on the
Michigan State sideline the season opener wearing a bench pass
and a disguise. I actually think that's funny. I mean,
I worry more about Michigan State Security. Some guy walked
up with a crooked, fake mustache, dark sunglasses on a
(09:30):
cloudy day and gave the name Patty O Furniture and
they let him in. I'm not worried about Michigan. I'm
worried about Michigan State Security team. Come on, my name
is Kent c Straight, here's your pass. So for the record, everybody,
just like cannabis and sports gambling, everybody's stealing signs, they
(09:54):
just do it differently. I do not believe that guy
in the TV picture is the difference between Michigan and
Ohio State. I think it was a better coach, better planning,
and more physicality. But you will go ahead and blame
the guy in the crooked mustache. But over the last
three years, the same timeline of the allegations against Michigan
(10:18):
and Connor Stoun's, over that same timeline, there has been
not only an acknowledgement but a reality of college football
that the thing I was told would earn you the
death penalty buying a high school player is not only legal,
it's encouraged. Baylor football coaches at fall practice this weekend,
(10:42):
we're wearing shirts that said we pay players. So I
was told as for years, I said, everybody's paying everybody.
Texas has lambos out front for recruits, Baylor coaches, we
pay players. I was told for years this was our
And I said, I know programs, I know college athletes,
(11:03):
I know guys in the NFL, the stars were getting
paid just like for years and years. Ooh, pot, cannabis legalization,
it's everybody I know that wanted to smote pot can
buy a bag anytime they wanted to. Wasn't ending America? Well,
I told sports gambling, Oh, the NFL for years, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible.
The minute it was legal first, people in the NFL.
(11:27):
Stop trying to sell me outrage. Stop trying to tell
me stuff is a stigma. Pot. I grew up in
Washington State. It's like the state plant. I worked in
Vegas for seven years. Everybody was betting sports. If you
wanted to make a bet in the game, you could.
So now I'm supposed to believe fake mustache guy in
(11:50):
the sidelines. That's changing outcomes. Come on, man, that's outrageous.
You can buy high schoolers not even high school seniors.
Their programs just so it gets good publicity. They'll go
spend one hundred and fifty bucks in a defensive tackle
his junior year. He may not even show up. Somebody
(12:11):
else will outbit him on signing day and get the
kid that the schools spent one hundred and fifty thousand
bucks for so my whole life. It's criminalizing this. It's criminalizing.
The NFL was so anti betting for years. They wouldn't
let Tony Romo, who's now at CBS. They wouldn't let
Tony Romo go to like a fantasy football convention in Vegas.
(12:36):
What everybody plays fantasy football. The NFL was outraged the
minute the Supreme Court ruled yeah, sports gamblings legal of America.
All the NFL owners first guys in, we're buying parts
of this, this this, this company owns part of FanDuel.
I got no problem with it. Why would I? I
(12:58):
lived in Vegas for seven years. So I think Connor
Stallions has the same impact on Michigan football wins. I
believe that as much as you would have been a
Division one football player if your high school coach didn't
have it out for you. I mean between the grifters
on the internet selling you the world is ending today
(13:20):
because of Wall Street and only one person can be
president or everything's going sideways, and that Connor Stallions is
the reason Jim Harball won, although he ended up dominating
in the NFL at Stanford at San Diego, he'll turn
the Chargers around.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
In an hour.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I'm sorry, slap them on the wrist. Bad guys. Shouldn't
have done that. But you know, Patty O Furniture with
a fake mustache got into a sidelines. If people were
really concerned that was changing outcomes, Connor Stallions wouldn't have
been anywhere near that bench. All right, Michael read. In
(14:05):
less than an hour from now, I'm gonna talk about
Team USA. They are rolling. You know, something else really
really stood out for me on the men's basketball and
I do think it speaks well of our NBA stars.
And we'll talk about that coming up forty five minutes
from now. Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong.
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Speaker 1 (14:36):
So Team USA is three and Oho beat Puerto Rico Saturday.
They're the top seed and they're gonna win the Olympic
gold medal. I think you think everybody thinks. What I
do find interesting is that and kind of patriotism at
its core is very powerful, regardless of how poor or
rich you are. The numbers tell you that people are watching.
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But Team USA is fast because of all the athletes
from all the countries at these great Olympics in Paris,
the richest and the most famous are overwhelmingly outside of
maybe an occasional tennis player. Are men's basketball stars. Steph's
(15:19):
worth five hundred million dollars, Lebron's a billionaire, Kd's half
a billionaire, shoe deals, contracts, these guys play forever, social
media production companies. They're very, very rich. And yet Kevin Durant,
one of the great get a basket players, top twenty
offensive player, maybe a top ten offensive player ever, is
(15:42):
coming off the bench and is not bothered by it whatsoever.
Now as much as the top three or four players
in the world right now, Jokic, Yannis very quickly, Wemby
Luca maybe Europeans twenty of the twenty four NBA All
Stars last year were Americans. We have the most good
(16:05):
players by a mile. Our only question is on a
game to game basis, Hey, which MVP candidate for the
Americans is out of the rotation tonight? Is it Ad
or Bam or Tatum or Booker coming off the bench.
I mean that those are our big questions. It is
also very clear, kind of surprisingly so how much Lebron
(16:32):
remains at thirty nine, twenty two years in the NBA,
remains a mile ahead of every other American player in
terms of leadership. He not only leads in field goal percentage,
he leads in minutes played and assists. I mean, Jason
Tatum is excellent, but sometimes I'm not even sure if
Jason Tatum is leading the Celtics. Devin Booker is a
(16:53):
tremendous score and that's about it. Tyrese Halliburton tremendous, young,
talented kid, Aunt Edwards phenomenal, rising, ascending, but not really
refined or a great leader. Yet Lebron leads this team
and the stuff that matters leadership, minutes played and assists.
(17:16):
Scoring isn't that important because all these guys were prolific
high school, AAU college or pro scorers at some point.
Even the best defenders like a Derek White could drop
twenty eight and you wouldn't be surprised. The truth is
stories of MJ. And this is where MJ and Lebron
are very different. The stories of Michael at the Olympics
(17:39):
are folklore, where the story of Lebron is right up
front to see, no secrets about it. It's called leadership,
uniting two young to lead guys and older guys who
respect Lebron so much they allow him to lead. It's
remarkable the best players in the world are all sort
(18:00):
of allowing best Americans a thirty nine year old, no bitterness,
no fights at practice. No Lebron, you carry us. And
again that is the big difference between MJ and Lebron.
Michael's entire game was give me the ball and I'll
lead you there, and Lebron since high school has always
(18:22):
been let's get there together. The most amazing stat about
Lebron is nothing in the Olympics or the NBA. It's
that in high school his junior year, he averaged like
twenty eight a game, and in his senior year he
could have averaged fifty, and he averaged only one point
more that At his core is how Lebron operates. Michael
(18:46):
was give me the ball, get out of the way,
and I'll take you there, and he did six times
and Golds. Lebron has always been more collaborative, So this
Olympic version is really the best of Olympic men's basketball
leadership and sacrifice. Lebron doesn't need to be the highest score.
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He knows points come easy for us and Tatum Booker
ad bam AD's notice a defensive player. He can drop
twenty eight a game in the Olympics and Lebron knows that.
But what Lebron really adds is minutes, leadership, assists distribution.
And this is the way the Olympics should be. And
it speaks very well of our men's basketball players. NBA players,
(19:31):
For whatever reasons, they often voice their opinion on politics.
Maybe that's it are viewed to somewhat polarizing. I don't
see it, but I mean, Lebron's never been in trouble.
Everywhere he goes, he wins. He's the best player everywhere.
Nobody plays with Lebron and doesn't end up having their
best years with him. I mean, this is the best
ad we've ever seen. We got the best, Jr. Smith,
(19:53):
the best, Matthew Delavadova. We got the best d Wade
in my opinion, the Championship five every year, d Way.
But I like what I see. This is the way,
and this speaks well for our NBA stars. Katie's coming
off the bench, Tatum's coming off the bench. Guys are like,
so what it's not about that. That's a lot harder
(20:14):
than you think. It's very easy to Well, they're all rich.
I know a lot of rich, bitter people. That's not it.
They are all willing to get behind Lebron. He's smiling,
he's happy, he bears the flag. Speaks well for Lebron,
and our NBA stars are American, wealthy, iconic stars, all
(20:36):
in for the country. Ryan with the news, No, no
turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
This is the Herdline news, All right, Colin.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
We're nine practices into Jets training camp, including a ninety
minute intrasquad.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Scrimmage on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Aaron Rodgers has reportedly not shown any signs of rust
following his torn achilles and, according to Roberts AA, Rogers
looks like he never missed any time. And he's a
Hall of Famer for a reason. How are you feeling
about Rogers heading into this season with the Jets coming
off that Achilles' injury.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I think they'll be fine. He goes back and forth, like,
it's really interesting. You saw so much video coming out
of camp of you know, JJ McCarthy or Bo Nix
or Justin Fields. It's a lot of optimistic stuff, right,
Look at these young guys go. The Aarin video that
got out of camp was him screaming at ere at Wilson.
So I think you just have to you have to
(21:32):
be honest about Aaron and what it is. You're gonna
get some drama. You're gonna get these podium press conferences, passive, aggressive,
taking shots at people. That's that's what you get. And
we can belly. It's like Dak's contract. It's just a
constant conversation. I swear to god, Dak just signed a contract.
We're talking about the next one he's gonna sign. That
one was like a two year news cycle. This one
(21:53):
will probably be a nine month news cycle. You know,
Aaron is always what I expect him to be on
and off the field.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Sure, and we'll turn our attention to a an NFC
team now. Caleb Williams didn't play in the bears first
preseason game last week, but Shaydon Daniels in this Saturday's
matchup with the Jets. Although we don't know how many
drives have participated in, Daniels is ready for his NFL debut.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I'm very excited. I love the game of sports. I
love the game of football. I love playing it. I'm
very passionate. I love to compete, so going out there
would be a different challenge. I still got some way
to go, just a little stuff, go out there and
still competing. Obviously, will coach q DQ and have said,
but at the end of the day, their decision. I
(22:39):
trust them fully of they're playing and stuff like that
and bring me law so as up to them at
this point. But for me, I'll just go out there
and how can I better myself each and every day
and just go out there and compete hard.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
So what I find interesting about him is this entire
organization has replaced everybody, owner, GM, coach, coordinator, quarterback. They've
literally replaced everybody, and that would seem like a bridge
too far, but that's what Houston did last year outside
of ownership, and they made the playoffs in the tougher AFC.
(23:13):
So right now I have Washington in, but I don't think.
First of all, in the NFL, change is inevitable. Seven
coaches get whacked a year, So basically every four years
you turn over all your coaches not named Andy Reid.
Basically is how it works. So and even he lost
his job in Philadelphia. So change is inevitable. It's a
very fluid league. But there's this idea that if you
(23:35):
like in most sports baseball, basketball, if you change everything,
it's a rebuild. It's not in football because the NFL
draft provides microwavable stars. You don't need years to cook it,
pop it in the microwave very quickly. Fo twenty three
year old guys come in. So if their draft picks hit,
(23:55):
if Jade and Daniel's good, I have no problem in
a weaker conference, in kind of a weaker to vision.
You know, Philadelphia's roster is good, everybody else, Dallas top
heavy Giants, and mass Washington, and I can see him
making the playoffs. I don't know. I've talked a lot
about this with somebody that is closer to the Commanders
that I am, and it to go either way. Team
(24:19):
like it do I worry defensive coach first year and
Jayden Daniels. Yeah, but that was Demko Ryans and CJ. Stroud.
And remember last year the number two quarterback ended up
being light years better than the number one quarterback situation.
So situational football matters a lot for young quarterbacks. If
you look at the Washington schedule, would you be surprised
(24:40):
if they beat Tampa and hosting the New York Giants
and went two and zero to start the season. I
mean at Cincinnati at Cincinnati is tough, and at Baltimore
is tough, But I see a lot of potential wins.
I see a lot of two and a half point spreads.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Sure, I mean three and one is not totally out
of the question to start the season.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Absolutely, So I'm on the positive side of the Commanders today,
I think. And it's not just that they replace people.
They replaced people that were toxic, incompetent over their head.
So if you just get solid people you've gotten rid of,
you elevated your competency and you've alleviated eliminated your chaos.
(25:20):
If Dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury and Adam Peters and
Jade and Daniels are B B minus. It's better than
the d's that.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Just left right.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
And to your point about that change, you know, Jaden
Daniels is a part of that change. This isn't a
situation like Baker Mayfield there and Alex Smith where they're
a young quarterback in a situation where now he's going
on his second or third head coach. This is going
to be a brand new system for him, regardless of which.
So if he comes in and adapts to Cliff Kingsbury system,
then he's a part of the new change developing in Washington,
(25:53):
not some turned style of coaches where he's trying to
learn a new offense every season. More wrap up with this.
Despite Russell Wilson being in pole position for the starting job,
Justin Fields has been leaving a big impression during his
time in camp, so much so that Mike Tomlin recently
said both quarterbacks will get an opportunity to compete for
the starting role, and new offensive coordinator Arthur Smith had
(26:15):
this to say about Fields, He's.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
A dangerous football player at the ball in his hands,
and so at logs, you get creative and you know,
maybe you change up a little bit of the defensive
game play and then he's done a good job. And
all our players at white out, quarterback, IDN, fullback, whatever age,
we didn't play our strengths, and certainly he adds a
different element.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, you know, when Russell went to Pittsburgh, I think
that it was kind of universally believed and I agree
with this. It was a great landing spot, great defense,
no chaos. They'd been bad at quarterback with Kenny Pickett,
that this was the perfect place to go. But it's
become increasingly clear once Justin Fields came to town and Russell's
got like a calf injury, that if Justin Fields, a younger,
(27:00):
more relatable player, lights up practice, that's gonna go a
long way in tilting that locker room toward Justin Fields.
And I mean, the one thing Russell has struggled with,
and this is not my opinion, I have seen it
Seattle and Denver is connecting with teammates or coaches. Pete
Carroll failed on him, Sean Payton failed on him. So
(27:23):
I thought this was the best place for Russell, and
I thought he was clearly a number one when Justin
Fields arrived. But now when you have an injury and
Russell hasn't been hurt that much, and he's out for
five practices and everybody loves Justin Field's and you know
he's gonna look great at practice because he's a playmaker,
and you know, practice it's a lot easier than games.
(27:46):
And so I think this is a developing story where
these memories. If he has four or five great practices,
you go to a two game losing street, you can
lose that locker room really fast, really fast.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Yeah, it's gonna be fascinating with the team like the
Steelers is Russell feels like if he just goes into
game manager mode and doesn't lose games, the Steelers are
going to be competitive. So if they're constantly in that
five hundred zone and in the playoff mix late into
the season, will Tomlin want to shake things up? I
mean he was willing to do that with Kenny Pickett.
(28:19):
I mean he moved off Kenny Picken was like, we'll
take our chances with the Mason Brudolf. So it's certainly
in Tomlin's demeanor to be able to take a chance
on changing it up at the quarterback position despite them
winning games and being in the playoff mix.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Ryan with the News.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd line news.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
So it created a little stir that Tyreek Hill. The
players voted for the top one hundred players in the NFL,
and the players voted for it. And the players always
love hyper athleticism. I mean years ago there was a
player poll and it was fifty to fifty half the
players liked Westbrook better than Steph Okay. So it's not
(29:03):
surprising to me that Tyreek Hill, the fastest receiver, and
Lamar Jackson, the fastest quarterback, did very well in the
top one hundred, both over Mahomes. But it's it's not
only is it disrespectful to Patrick Mahomes. And I'm sure
Patrick Malmes is fine, he's secure in himself. But let's
(29:24):
not forget what we have a history of. At any
one time in the NFL, there is this one receiver AB.
It's rarely two. It's this one receiver to Randy Moss,
ab des Bryant OBJ that gets a lot of attention.
(29:45):
He's often big and different and unique a one handed catch.
He's the fastest guy. They're all noisy, and that's Tyreek Hill,
right like you. I know more about his contract. I should.
It's there's a quote every day. I'm not saying disruptive,
(30:06):
but they tend to be noisy and go through contract
stuff and I know all about it. But it should
also be noted that since Tyreek Hill left, Mahomes Patrick
leads the NFL in passing yards and passing touchdowns. Yep,
he does. They've won back to back Super Bowls without him.
Patrick Mahomes indisputably has become a better quarterback, forced now
(30:31):
to have ten play drives and not Lollypoppett over the secondary.
In this time, Tyreek Hill has zero playoff wins two
years in Miami. Zero. So my take is the only
best spectacular receiver that has a trophy is ab and
(30:52):
that's because of Tom Brady. Those type of receivers, the fast,
the spectacular, the crazy talented, they get attention, they don't
get trophies. They tend to be a little higher maintenance
in terms of their contract than attention. You're seeing some
of this with Brandon Ayuk, terrific receiver. In fact, a
couple of years ago, I was criticized because I said
he was top three or four. He's probably about five.
(31:14):
But I think he's tremendous, but I don't think he's
nearly as valuable as Trent Williams, the old left tackle
who is also holding out. They can live without Brandon Ayuk.
If Trent Williams retired today, the Niners are screwed because
the center right their own line's not great. So like
Trent Williams way more valuable than Brandon Ayuk, and I
(31:36):
love Ayuk. I think he's terrific. But my point being
is it was not only disrespectful to Mahomes not to
put him number one, but they're winning without him more
without him, and passing for more yards without him, and
throwing for more touchdowns without him. The top ten most
(31:59):
targeted wide receivers last year, four didn't make the playoffs,
and four didn't win a playoff game. The only receiver
who did was omor On Saint Brown, who is the
opposite of highly exposed, high maintenance or verbal. He's like
one of the quietest stars in the NFL, very Larry Fitzgerald.
(32:19):
You only see him in the end zone. You only
see him catching first down passes. So it's my takeaway,
and this Tyreek Hill stuff being voted number one, I'm
not surprised. He's hyper athletic, there's a Westbrook quality. He
wins enough, he's wild. You'd pay a ticket to watch him.
But it's it's not being acknowledged that these star receivers
(32:40):
that the players fall in love with, they don't. They
don't go home with trophies. They really don't. And the
Chiefs are winning more, throwing for more touchdowns, more passing yards,
and indisputably mahomes a better quarterback. He has had to
develop a more precise, surgical game. He's had young receivers.
Bus receivers can't hang out to the ball receiver. He's
(33:00):
head and he keeps winning and leading the league and
all the important stuff. And I also wonder this is
weird way to look at it, but is Tyreek Hill
really costing you eighty three million a year fifty for
Tua and thirty two or thirty three for Tyreek Hill
or wherever they're paying him. Because his best games tend
to be September, October, November, but the most important games
(33:25):
are December, January and February in the NFL. So he
is giving Tua unbelievable production in the games over fifty
degrees that generally don't matter as much as the one
under forty degrees that decide trophies. So Tyreek Hill's regular
(33:46):
season dominance got Tua to a contract that I would
never want to sign. I'm not anti too, I just
don't think he's worth that money. Coming up next, Danny
Parkins in Chicago Bears are the talk of at.
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Speaker 1 (34:35):
The sixth Central author of Pipeline to the Pros, fascinating
book D three Basketball to the NBA Connectivity at Danny
Parkins on Twitter. He's joining me now, all right, Danny,
let's start with this. Caleb Williams didn't play in the
Hall of Fame Game. I don't know what's suspected of
his playing time in their first official game. How is
(34:55):
the talk in Chicago on your show? Your opinion on
him not playing again? It's vanilla schemes, a couple series.
What do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
So the only reason I advocated for him to play
one snap in the Hall of Fame Game was so
that at the end of his career, we could say
that his career started and ended in Canton. I thought
that that type of synergy would actually be really nice
because I'm obviously very bullish, I'm Caleb Williams. But they're
gonna do what the league trend seems to be here
(35:26):
with Caleb Williams. They've said between forty five and fifty
five snaps for him this preseason. C J Stroud got
forty three, Bryce Young got fifty four. Teams don't play
guys who matter in the Hall of Fame Game. The
Hall of Fame Game is to it's an infomercial to
celebrate a team that is there, that has guys like
Mango MacMichael and Devin Hester and Julius Peppers being enshrined
(35:46):
in Canton, and you get extra practices because you report
to training camp early. But if you look at who's
played in this game the last couple of years, I
mean it's Kellen Mond against Zach Wilson, Kyle Sloterer against
Jarrett Stidha, Garrett Gilbert against Mason Rudolph. That sounds to
me like Davis Mills against Tyson Bata, which is what
we got a couple of days ago. Caleb Williams does
(36:08):
not need to be playing in games that Garrett Gilbert
has started.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
In the past. Let me talk about this the Olympics.
Maybe I'm being corny, but I actually think the KOPA,
the EURO the WNBA, and the Olympic ratings are tied
together in an angry political time. They make me smile.
They make me happy. I'm proud of America. Am I
being corny at the massive Olympic ratings? Better than expected?
(36:35):
Your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
The Olympics is just great television and it's nice to
have it back looking like the normal Olympics in the
post pandemic world that we have. It's just spectaculally now
we understand why these TV networks did what they do
for it. So I think there's definitely something to your
theory because I know that whenever I get a news alert,
it's very doom and gloom, and so we are all
looking for things that we can rally by, like, hey,
(37:00):
we're all rooting for the same team, and that's nice
in a very polarized context. But I also think I
know nothing about any of this, and I can tune
in and in ninety seconds I know everyone's life story,
certainly the Americans life story who I'm rooting for, what
they've been through to get there. And I'm like sweating
(37:22):
on my couch, nervous with the parents of the girl
on the uneven bars, because they've built up their entire
life to get to this moment and one little thing
could be wrong and it's all over. It's the one
hundred meter dash that I mean, it's the purest sporting
event in the world. It's amazing. We have got the
fastest man in the world back here wearing the red,
white and blue, three one hundredths of a second slower.
(37:46):
Not only is he not the fastest man in the world,
he doesn't even get a metal between first and eighth
is point one two seconds, Like that is just an
astronomical amount of pressure that I don't know. I smile
during it, I root for it, I'm patriotic during it,
but I'm also like crying and stressed and sweating like
(38:06):
it just elicits a lot of emotions. Whenever you tune
into the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Two things can be true. Something can be valuable but overvalued.
I said this about number one receivers. There's always a
guy in the league, Moss too, ab Obj that we
just fall for, and I'm like, they never host trophies.
Mahomes is actually a better quarterback frankly without Tyrek, and
(38:30):
Tyreek is still great, but a weak armed quarterback and
a deep ball threat doesn't scream trophies in January and February.
I like Tyreek, but I think we overvalue the players
did in the poll. We kind of overvalue what you get.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
No, You're not wrong, But I honestly think, and this
goes back to the political point a little bit, the
polling is just off. Mitchell Schwartz, he's retiring now. Old
buddy in Mina covered him with the Chiefs All Pro
right tackle for the Chiefs. He shared on Twitter how
it works. He's like, the voting is done in Week fourteen,
you're not given a list of names to choose from.
(39:12):
It's just a blank sheet at paper with the team
logos around the perimeter of it. So the playoffs aren't
factored in. Some guys don't vote at all. Some guys
only put five names in. Some guys only vote for
their friends. And it's supposed to be about last season, Well,
who cares about just last season? I care about what
these players think about the whole career. But if it's
(39:33):
about last season, why is Aaron Rodgers on the list?
Why is Joe Burrow on the list? Why is my
guy Jalen Johnson, who was on your show a couple
of weeks ago and was excellent. He was second team
All Pro at cornerback, got a huge contract this offseason.
He's not on the list at all, So he's not
a top one hundred player based on last year. But
Aaron Rodgers, who played four games, is Tyreek Hill is
the best player? Mahomes is sport. It's all just ridiculous,
(39:56):
And I will say it makes me kind of happy
to be someone who looks like may like sixt nothing,
one hundred and nothing, who has these strong opinions about
the NFL, Because I can honestly be like see, I
can rank players better than the players can rank the players.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
It's kind of reaffirming the very talent at Danny Parkins,
Parkins and Spiegel in Chicago. By the way, one minute left.
If I told you as a sportscaster, who are you
rooting for to win the Steelers starting quarterback job? What
makes better topics for us?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Justin Fields? Yes, yeah, I got I just got done
covering Justin Field's every move for the last few years.
He is captivating television. Who has a better highlight reel
in the NFL the last two years than Justin Fields. Now,
there's probably thirty guys that are better quarterbacks than Justin
Fields put better highlight reel, better television, more compelling. He's
(40:50):
much more interesting than Russell Wilson. So the storyline is
Justin Fields. But I don't think either of these guys
is the Steelers answer at quarterback twenty twenty five and
beyond Parkins.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Good seeing you as Olas Bud appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Thanks. Colin talks too all right.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Love listening to him. Thoughtful guy Michael read next hour
Colin Wright, Colin wrong. You know the other thing about
the Olympics, women tend to be more supportive of each
other than men. It can be medical issues, socializing, helping
each other out. Katie Ledecki, Simone Biles, Caitlin Clark. Now
the w NBA stuff's gotten real petty and a lot
of you know, skirmishy, But in the Olympics women have
(41:30):
really captivated us. I mean it's it is unbelievable and
it is it's easy to pull Ford, not just because
there are athletes. It's really been a good watch
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