March 18, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin is overjoyed with the thought of the NFL draft being merely one month away filling his heart with so much unpredictability
He discusses the way people will probably perceive the new Patriots documentary "The Dynasty"
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Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, as Ola
was a bounty, plenty of both, Jmax, you watched a
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lot of college hoops over the weekend. I imagine I
watched a lot of NFL Free agency over the weekend,
all fired up on that. Oh really, we're gonna hand
a dynasty. I finally finish the dynasty on the Patriots.
So Scott Pioli and Jeff Benedict, who wrote the book
that's coming up today. It's fast one of my favorite
documentaries of all time. I'm not sure if it rises
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to MJ, but in terms of football Dynasties top of
my head. Best football dynasty I've ever seen. Wow.
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I mean, a lot of NFL news today, college basketball,
and I survived the move.
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I am present, shocking your wife control that You're all good.
So you know, I'm sitting there watching TV. Over the weekend,
I went in a little respite, little break right, and
I watched it. There's a lot of college basketball, and
there's also a lot of hype and hope and optimism
for the NFL season. We got the draft about a
month away, and it's a big quarterback draft, and I'm
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sitting there thinking to myself. One of the reasons I
love the NFL draft, especially at quarterbacks, is there's a
randomness to it. Who can figure out the quarterbacks? Some
are tall, some are short, some move, some don't, some
add libs, some not so good. Why I do so
few quarterbacks five or six first round quarterbacks sometimes one
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hits five massively fail. And I've always been fascinated in
any business finding the common thread. What doesn't interest me
as much as why? Why does it happen? And so
take the twenty twenty draft. First two rounds. They all
hit Burrow's great two, has gotten Pro Bowl votes, Justin
Herbert excellent, Jordan Love looks like he's going to be
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a guy. Jalen Hurts got to a Super Bowl. They
all hit at some level, and that was not considered
after Burrow a great quarterback draft, people had real questions
about to his health and Herbert's kind of mechanics. Jordan
Love was considered a total project, and Jalen Hurts I
was one of them. Is he a starter in the NFL?
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Then you go to the twenty twenty one draft and
that was nothing but hype and optimism, and they've all
bombed except Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, with Trey Lance Miss,
Justin Field's backup, Mac Jones not working, Kyle Trast not playing,
and Trevor Lawrence. I like him. He was the one
I said is gonna work. He has worked to some degree.
He's got a playoff win. But there is a randomness
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to it, and I'm fascinated with the why. There's a
Rubik's cube randomness to it. Remember in high school when
the you know, I was in high school when the
Rubik's cube comes out, or roughly there, high school, college,
and there was always one kid that figured it out.
He could do it repeatedly, over and over in like
three minutes. He wasn't the smartest kid. You knew, he
wasn't the best student. He was kind of an odd ball.
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But he figured out the Rubik's cube. And in the NFL,
in this randomness to find the right quarterback, the one
kid is the Packers. They ace it quickly. They got Farve,
they got Rogers, they got Jordan Love. So they're that kid.
But it's so random that organizations that we don't historically
trust are also great at it. The Cincinnati Bengals go
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back to Kenny Anderson. I know, I'm old and nev.
Kenny Anderson was outstanding, and then Boome Marisias and won
an MVP, and then Carson Palmer was great, and then
it was I mean Andy Dalton made multiple playoffs and
Joe Burrow. The Bengals are great at it. Yeah, they are.
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I mean there's been a few miss misses, but they've
hit on more than the Steelers have. And how about
the Chargers. John Hadel look him up, Dan Fouts, Drew Brees,
Philip Rivers, Justin Herbert the Chargers. We don't trust the
Chargers they're great at quarterbacks. The Bengals are great at quarterbacks.
The Packers have a three straight. It's a cautionary tale
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about this draft because I'm sitting there looking at all
these quarterbacks, and this draft class reminds me a lot
of the twenty twenty one draft class, where you got
about five six first rounders, all of them getting hype.
And there's one transcendent quarterback, Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence. Caleb
Williams can't miss. But Trevor went to a weird, odd,
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losing franchise, Jacksonville, and it's been bumpy. And here goes
Caleb Williams. He's going to another franchise that can't get
the quarterback right, the Chicago Bears. And so I looked
at this draft with Bo Nicks and Michael Pennox and
JJ McCarthy and Jaden Daniels and Drake May and Caleb Williams,
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and you know the thing that scares me and makes
me think about the twenty twenty one draft. Go look
at the twenty twenty one quarterbacks. A lot of them
went to defensive coaches, defensive cultures, and teams with more
good defensive players. Yeah, that's where Mac Jones went justin fields,
Zach Wilson at the time, Trevor Lawrence. They had to
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go buy offensive players this second year in the league.
And so I look at this class, and who are
the first three teams drafting Chicago, Washington, New England defensive coach,
defensive coach, defensive coach, all working with an offensive coordinator
they've never worked with before. You think that's ideal. That's
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why I have said, and I'll say it again, that
the two quarterbacks in this class, of the six or
seven that could get drafted in the first two rounds,
the two quarterbacks, my instincts tell me will work. I
think Caleb Williams, like Trevor Lawrence, is talented enough to
just figure out ways to be productive and win some games.
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He'll probably be on a second coach by Thanksgiving or
a second year, but I think he's talented enough. And
the other quarterback that'll work is whoever goes to Minnesota
love their offensive coach, Pro Bowl left tackle, superstar receiver,
excellent running back, Aaron Jones, excellent tight end, excellent number
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two receiver Jordan Addison in overall, a top twelve offensive
line that is a perfect place for a JJ McCarthy,
a Michael Pennocks Bonix. So I don't have a second
quarterback that's gonna work. It's Caleb Williams and whoever goes
to Minnesota. If you put Patrick Mahomes today from the Chiefs,
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you put them on the Vikings with those offensive pieces
that coach stability and ownership, I would say the Vikings
get to the super Bowl. That's how highly I think
of Minnesota's offensive talent, because I do believe outside of
the occasional Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence, and Caleb Williams, it's
mostly where you land. We make so much hype about
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JJ McCarthy. I don't love him. Many do if JJ
McCarthy goes to Minnesota. And by the way, did you
see what Minnesota did over the last three days. They
accumulated a second first round pick. So the Vikings have
two first round picks for one reason to move up
potentially to get a quarterback they view as the guy.
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Somebody could be Drake May they can move up to three.
It could be JJ McCarthy. They may have to move
up to seven or eight. But I thought the Vikings
were the interesting team. They accumulate a second first round pick.
My guess is they're doing that because they may have
to use it to get their quarterback, and that kid
who can sit behind Sam Darnold for one year, maybe
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just until Thanksgiving, will have the second highest shot to succeed.
I For years and years I tried to predict who
was going to work, and by and large, next year's draft,
by the way, does not have a Caleb Williams, Andrew Lucker,
Trevor Lawrence. It'll come down again to who gets the
offensive coach, who gets the best offensive line, who gets
the weapons. Because what's happening in football now, it's so popular,
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there's so much money. By Thanksgiving of your second year,
even if you're talented, people have emotionally in the building
moved on. All you can hope for is a quarterback.
The owner likes you, Daniel Jones, and wants to resign you.
All right, So I watched We'll have a couple of
guests on today to talk about it. I like documentaries.
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I watch very few movies. I watched one hundred docks
a year. I watched him watch six this weekend. I
like watching docs. There's not a lot of great sports documentaries,
and I thought Dynasty was excellent. Now some people it's
looking back in the twenty years ten parts of the
Patriots Dynasty, So I mean, obviously you could do thirty
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parts in this thing. They took the Aaron Hernandez to
flight gait, the Malcolm Butler Super Bowl, the squabbles, Tom
and Belichick at the end. They took the most dramatic stuff.
Same with MJ and the Bulls. They're not going to
talk about a Tuesday game against Orlando in a documentary.
You're going to talk about Robin in Vegas, Jerry Krause
and Michael not getting along the punch. That's what you're
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going to talk about in the documentary, right, Like these
are not endless. You're going to talk about for forty
five minutes, ten different times, the biggest stuff. So people
said that this was very pro Bob Kraft and anti Belichick,
and maybe it was. You have to get access from
some people to do a documentary. But you know what
I noticed in this documentary, nobody bad mouth Brady, but
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almost everybody criticized Belichick, the owner, his offensive coordinator, his
defensive stars, his defensive players, the loyal Matt Slater. Why
was everybody willing to go after Bill? Why would nobody
go after Tom? Because, as Danny Amndola said, we played
for Tom, we were coached by Bill, and I have
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found something over my life to be true about dynasties
in sports. You can go back to Shaq and Kobe,
Jordan's Bulls, Brady and Belichick. There's three things they all
have in common. Number One, work, ethic and vision creates
the dynasty. They found Brady late in the draft. They
found him and had a vision. The second thing is
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resilience that will maintain it. M Bulls, Brady Belichick. Dynasties
are hard. Empires are hard, so hard work and vision
creates it. Resilience, toughness maintains it, and a hunger for
power destroys it. Kobe and Shack both wanted to be
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the guy right like they both had to be the
guy MJ. And the front office of the Bulls they
resented MJ. Phil Jackson, And in this one it's very clear,
say what you want about this being a pro craft
pro Brady documentary. Tom was highly highly complimentary of Bill
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did not have to be. But Belichick was asked about
the Malcolm Butler situation. And he would not comment everybody.
Players were furious. Brady was mad. Josh McDaniel's the coordinator,
the loyal coordinator, was upset and Bill would never answer it.
Why because Bill he wanted to control the question, the answer,
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and the narrative to the very end. Bill, like the
late Bobby Knight, had an insane belief in accountability, and
yet in the end he didn't have any Bill wouldn't
answer the question, how in God's name can you cost
us a Super Bowl by not playing Malcolm Butler and
we can't stop Nick Foles? And he was the most
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consistent defender on that team for most of the year.
If you're gonna preach accountability, then you gotta be accountable
in the biggest moments. Belichick wasn't. It's a fascinating on
Apple TV documentary. Regardless of who it favors. Belichick had
multiple opportunities in this documentary and in his final years,
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and he wanted to control Brady. Be hard on Brady,
control the Garoppolo move. You're a coach or not an owner.
You're a coach or not a GM You're a coach
or not the star quarterback as football pivoted to an
offensive league, a quarterback driven industry. Bill wanted to treat
Brady like he was second year Tommy and he was
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the greatest player at the most important position ever. And
it was at that point indisputable, and Bill wouldn't budge.
So great stuff. Great stuff. I saw an NBA story
that is interesting, and it's you know, people are tired
of the Lebron MJ debate, so we don't do it.
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But there was years ago, and this was a real thing.
When he was just leaving OKC, going to the Warriors
and winning MVP in the finals, there was a k
D and Lebron discussion and I didn't believe it. I
didn't think it was disputable. I didn't think it was arguable,
but a lot of people were. You know, KD the
of the easy score. KD is the one here. Interesting.
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What's happened in Phoenix? Isn't it? Talk about that? And
justin fields to the Steelers. A lot of stuff in
Herd Line News Today in one hour from now forty
five minutes, actually Colin Wright, Colin Wrong.
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So it's interesting. Years and years ago he had left
Oklahoma City. He goes to the Warriors, you know it
by now. KD joins a team that had already won
a championship before him, Steve Kerr, Steph clay Draymond. They
were a percolating dynasty, and so Kadi joins them and
is the best overall talent on the team. Two times
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I think finals MVP, and there were a lot of discussions.
I never bought into him, but there were a lot
of discussions. He's better than Lebron, and that's like timeout.
Lebron is much bigger, broader, and greater in what he
brings to a team cohesion, in chemistry. Kd's just a
great player, a great score. So KD goes to Brooklyn
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and he gets his points. It's a mess. And so
he goes down too the Suns and it's Bradley, Beal
and Booker all three really good scores, and the sound
are a bit of a mess. Lebron's teams may not
be great, but he's still got ad who's inconsistent. Austin
reeves he got a championship in the Bubble Western Conference Finals,
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they've run through coaches. The Lakers aren't a mess. Ever
with Lebron, the Sons are only eighth in the West,
lost yesterday to the Bucks. Without Yannis, they're only fifteen
and eleven. When Booker, Beale and KD play and defensively,
they're just not very good. But bigger than all of
that is what are they? And that's the difference between
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Lebron and KD. You may hate Lebron because he is
something very few people hate KD. Lebron is a leader,
sometimes a villain. He is the setup guy, the frontman
of the band. He leads a team, he sets the culture.
Katie gets points. He's a piece. He's plugging play. When
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he went to Golden State, they didn't ask him to
be a leader. Draymond was, Steph was, Kerr was veteran,
andre Iguidalo was. When confronted by Draymon and Steve Kerr,
Kadie was uncomfortable. Again, what are they? The Warriors of
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Oa's been something and stood for something because of Chris,
because of Steph Curry and Steve Kerr and Draymond Green.
Draymond Green insures toughness, Steph Curry insures leadership, and ball
movement and kerr insures intelligence and a style of play.
They are something Lebron James distribution, leadership IQ the Lakers
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something he gets players to play at their very best.
You think Austin Reeves is this good? If he plays
for the Wizards or the Orlando Magic, he'd get lost
and you'd never hear of him again. Kyle Kuzma with
Lebron was something. Now what is he? And that's my
knock on KD. Sons are desperate for leadership because Booker,
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before Chris Paul got there and now that he's gone, Booker,
like KD, is just an excellent scorer. This is not
a criticism of Kevin Durant. I've said before if you
had a one on one tournament, he'd be the best
player in league history. I love watching him play. I'm
a fan of his work. But the difference between Lebron
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and KD is Lebron is always something beyond points and production.
He can be a villain. He won in Miami being
that he can be a leader, joyful getting Kyrie Irv
to finally be a championship player. He can take broken
down Anthony Davis, who people love, but nobody trusts his
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health and win in the bubble. Everybody with Lebron works
around him. He is this force the sun that everything
hovers around. Doesn't oways win the title, but often gets
to the final or the conference championship with disparate parts,
which wouldn't work with anybody else. If you put Lebron
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with Booker and with Bradley Beale, they would not be
fifteen and eleven when playing together and eighth in the West. Again,
not a criticism of Kadie, it's a reality of his personality.
He's one of my favorite fifteen players of all time.
I'd vote him in today to the Hall of Fame.
I've loved watching him play. But Katie's greatest moments were
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not in Okac, Brooklyn or Phoenix. They were when he
joined a team with great leadership, because that's not what
he does, and that cohesion in chemistry is a large
part of what defines Lebron. James Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
No, no turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Let's start with some news we missed while we were gone.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Kenny Pickett's time in Pittsburgh ended with a bit of
a thud. Remember he was a first round pick in
twenty twenty two, and he was traded. According to Pittsburgh
Post Gazette, the Steelers traded him because of his behavior,
and he expressed unhappiness over the arrival of Russell Wilson.
And you know here in the notes, don't forget last season,
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Pickett was not happy to be the backup to Mason.
Rudolph Pickett was healthy, but Tomlin just wrote, Rudolph, people
are like, what the heck's going on there?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
So aren't you a bit surprised that the Steelers, loyal
to a fault, moved off the Pittsburgh kid. I've got
to be honest, I said, for a year, they're gonna
be too loyal. They're gonna be loyal to the kid.
And to their credit, Pittsburgh moved off a quarterback who
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in the AFC is simply not good enough. It's the
right decision, but I am shocked. This is a It's
actually it shows you something that I didn't think Pittsburgh
was capable of, which is like, yeah, we're moving off
a guy. It would be very easy to do with
New York Giants and play him and pay him and
just sit around. And that's what I thought they would do.
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But come on, in his career, he's got four He's
got thirteen touchdowns and thirteen.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Picksteen touchdowns in twenty four.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Stars and he played a ton of college games, same facility,
so he's got comfort, he's got continuity.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Well, he was just average in college until his final year.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I think he was like the fifth year he was
like twenty three years old, he had like forty touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
So that was the concern out of college. When you
see a quarterback who pops like in his fourth year
of playing, people are always very reluctant because you're just
a much older kid.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well that remember that happened to Burrow to the birthday
first year at LSU.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
He was like mid They were all maybe he's a
seventh round pick.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, then he explodes with the greatest season ever. So
I think people saw Picket and we're like, ooh, what
if he's.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Job Yeah, no, I get it, he's not.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
So he'll be now the backup in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
How about Pittsburgh changing their quarterback groom last year Mason,
Rudolph Pickett, and Trubisky.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Now it's Russell Wilson and Justin Fiel. That's a big upgrade.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh yeah, it's a far more talented mobile quarterback.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
How much of this has to do with Tomlin being
in his final year saying guys, we're just going all in.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I'm giving it one last shot.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It definitely feels like this is Tomlin's last hurrah. Yeah,
I don't think he's I don't. My guess is he's
not gonna be there after this year.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I think, you know, again, this was so unexpected. I mean,
it's the right move, but so unexpected. And I do
I don't think Mike has a feel for offense. So
let's go get a couple of athletes. They have a
new offensive coordinator, they have nice pieces, but I just
moving off picket surprised me.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
How about this? So Russell Wilson goes to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
He's like, oh right, we're going to Pittsburgh and the
man and then trade Pickett. He's like, what's up? All
of a sudden, here come justin field. Do you think
he was ticked? Because there was a report that Tomlin
called Wilson and said, hey, you're the starter, but Russ
is gonna be looking over.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
His shoulder, you know that right? Well? And also it's
a great division Baltimore burrows back. Cleveland's got I think
a great coach and a good quarterback. So the truth
is it's not out of the realm of possibility that
in October Russell has back to back stinkers, you know,
against the Ravens in Baltimore and the Bengals, and then
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Justin Field steps in. So this is not a Russell's won.
And you got a college kid in the seventh round,
like Justin Fields at practice will make plays and the teammates,
the younger teammates may be like, that's our guy. So
the divide on a two game losing streak, which, by
the way, it's just gonna happen that division. You're gonna
have two game losing streaks. The divide is real.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah over under Halloween before Justin Field is starting, I
would do under.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But by Thanksgiving he will have started a game.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Fields will get a look.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I I remember a picket last year against the Niners.
I remember I loved Pittsburgh in that game. Picket was awful.
You're like, oh, he's not the guy. I just I
wonder if it's gonna be a real short leash because
you got Fields waiting in the wings and Fields can
run around and make some things happen.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like, well, you don't have to You don't have to
keep Russell or Fields after this year. So I wouldn't
even be surprised if Pittsburgh didn't go draft in the
third round the two lane quarterback who will probably be
early third round. I mean, I could see them saying, listen,
we're gonna try you to. We're gonna bring this kid
into be in the quarterback room for a year with
a veteran and a kid, and let's see how it
plays out. But I you know, they spend their money
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on defense in Pittsburgh, so not smart.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
But you know, anyways, so let's get to the Jets.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
They made a move grabbing Cowboys tackle Tyron Smith, fourteen
year veteran, eight time Pro Bowler. Listen, I don't love
getting another aging thirty something year old. Last year it
was Dwayne Brown who was thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And I like this move a lot by the Jets.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Listen, it's not the worst move in the world. The
Jets apparently were surprised to land him. He's thirty three.
Last four seasons, he's missed thirty seven games. Okay, he
has two years ago torn ham straight okay, and he
missed like fourteen games.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So here's where I like it. It's a great left
tackle draft. It's a great draft. Could be six in
the first round, four in the second. So my take
with the Jets now is Tyron Smith, let's just pencil
him in for twelve to thirteen starts, okay. So even
if you get a first round offensive tackle, that kid's
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not going to be ready to protect off an achilles
surgery Aaron Rodgers in Week one. Left tackle is one
of those positions, even the great ones. The kid for
the Giants, the left tackle Andrew Thomas, he didn't have
a great rookie year. He's tremendous now. So it's a
big difference between blocking a college rush end and you know,
being in the AFC and blocking guys in your own
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division like Von Miller. So to me, you can either
draft another first round left tackle and just say hey,
we're gonna start you by Thanksgiving, but you're gonna learn.
I think that's smart, or go get one in later rounds.
But the Jets are lucky that they land Tyron Smith.
When Tyron Smith played last year in the games that
I recall, if he gets his hand on you. It's over.
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So it's like Aaron Donald, He's still great. The difference
is Aaron doesn't get banged up as much as Tyrone.
But I think if he plays thirteen games next year,
you're not getting to Aaron Rodgers in those thirteen games.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, I think he had over eight hundred snaps and
threw only three pens.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
He's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
So let me just quickly throw this at you. The
Jets now have three new starting offensive linemen. Left tackle,
left guard who came from Baltimore, right tackle who came
from Baltimore. We know Joe Douglas is with the Ravens.
Obviously the familiarity. Are you still drafting a left tackle
with the first no?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
No, no, no, well not with the first pick. I wouldn't
be bothered, But I think you can make an argument
now with the Jets, is this accomplishes two things. Tyron
Smith's good player. He's still a very He's a top
five or six tackle when he's on the field. Absolutely
like Trent Williams is the best or second best. Trent
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misses time, not as much as Tyrone, but he misses time.
So you've solved that this is a very deep wide
receiver draft, So the Jets could get a receiver in
the second, third, fourth, whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
They don't have a second. This is where it gets interesting,
but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
My take is where they draft right now?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Ten, ten, eleven. I think you trade down for sure,
have to.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Oh please, don't be shocked Roma Dunze.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I don't think he's gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Actually no, Well, the Bears were looking at him and
they just got Keenan out.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
They're not probably Moore.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
We haven't talked about the Bears. Man, that's that's a buye.
You love Chicago.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Well, I'm just saying with the Jets, this accomplishes two things.
Protects Aaron and does allow you to get a playmaker
in a wide receiver heavy top ten pick, So it
kind of accomplishes two things.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Bide down.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Jets are wealthy. The Jets need a receiver and a tackle.
The draft is loaded with receivers and tackles, so very lucky.
What the Jets need this draft has in surplus. And
you know next year it may not be a tackle draft.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
We're hopeful for the quarterbacks staying healthy.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Final story is one of your favorite players in the league,
Colin Kyrie Irving hit arguably the greatest buzzer beater this
season has seen in the NBA to take down the Nuggets.
Here's the final play call and Kyrie's reaction to the
shot over Yokich.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Cleave it in bound Kleba looking in for Irving, Irving
for the wind.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
South finish from Perving.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Just absurd.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Sometimes that's been, you know, just a hour straight just
working on straight left hand stuff. And you know, being
a small guard for a large part of the portion
of my life. I consider myself a space out for now.
But you know, you know, but just being a small guard,
you just gotta have a multitude of finishes and that's
something I've been working on since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I'm gonna make an argument now in the context of this,
it's not the most important buzzer beater. I'm not saying
that it's one of the greatest buzzer beaters. The only
one I think is greater is Magic Johnson's hook shot
against the Celtics. Of all the shots you could do,
Magic did a hook shot down the lane. You gotta
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that to me, that's one of the greatest buzzer beaters.
A small guard goes to a left handed free throw
line hook. It's one of the greatest buzzer beaters of
all time. I'm not saying it's the most epic or important,
but most guys go to their straints. Kobe would do
a following Jordan of mid range Lebrono drive to the basket.
I got a guard using his off hand, a fifteen
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foot left handed hook. The only the first thing I
thought about is, by the way, Magic had a multitude
of finishes as well. He wasn't, as I would say,
skyhook ma. He didn't have the touch offensively quite as
Kyrie does. As a shooter. Magic wasn't a great jump shooter.
But the Magic hook against the Celtics says like you're
bringing that out in that situation, are you out of
your mind? That is a top one or two buzzer
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beater of all time in terms of the shot difficult,
the moment the difficult, and some guys probably hit a
half court shot.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
But that's luck. That's luck.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
This is not luck, This is not something. This is
something he's been working on for years. Look at that thing.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
That's difficult.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
MAVs are now tied three way Tide Kings MAVs Sons
for the sixth spot.
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The sixth spot is coveted Colin.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Whoever gets six almost certainly will face Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yes, no, Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yes, when you were out a couple weeks ago, I
said Dallas was the biggest threat to the Nuggets. I
don't want to go overboard, but I'm just telling you
this Dallas team. Keep an eye on them, like I really,
I think they're the second best team in the West. Oh,
come on, who you want? Okay, see, go ahead, you
got it. Oh you got the Clippers paper clips in
Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Who's gonna make a stop for you? Tie game against
the Clippers?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Defensive league? Man, you know this. You gotta make make
stops on the Chiefs. Nobody it's offense.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
It was their defense this year. You gotta have a
defensive stopper Anthony Davis Gordon for the Nuggets. By the way,
Gordon Gordon was Gordon Kyrie Irving Kyry ran around. I'm like, no,
I that that is a all. I don't think I'm
being Looney Tunes here. It's one of the greatest closing shots. Yeah,
to go to that out of your tool bag the
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left handed.
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His bag is deep. Yes, Yes, it's impressive, all right.
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So the headline says new stunning detail of Justin Field's
trade to the Steelers revealed by Iron Rappaport Ian Rappaport.
According to this story, the Bears had several offers for
Justin Fields, but sent him to Pittsburgh because that's what
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Justin Fields preferred, So he preferred to be a backup
with another defensive coach. Is Justin Field's content being a
backup because he may eventually be the starter if Russell
Wilson was hurt or struggled. But Russell Wilson is a
defined Super Bowl winning two Super Bowl appearing veteran quarterback.
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He did not come here without assurances. I guarantee you.
Russell Wilson didn't come here without assurances. As Jacket said
five minutes ago, he got him. Reportedly, Fields is still
trying to figure out how to play the position. So
if Fields could have chosen other organizations. I'd love to
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know what they are, because we've got an organization in
Pittsburgh that's a better version of Chicago. Defense is where
they generally spend their time and money. Mike Tomlin has
struggled to get the coordinator right on that side in
the O line. They haven't had a top defense in
half a top offense, a top ten offense. They haven't
had that in half a decade. Even the last couple
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of years with Big Ben were a mess. So, according
to Ian Rapaport, several teams multitude of options, and he
chose a backup role in a really, really tough division,
probably the best division in football, with a defensive coach,
a defensive culture, and a franchise that just traded away
before he got there, a very talented young receiver in
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Deontay Johnson for an average corner. So I never loved
Justin Field's judgment from the pocket. I'm not sure I
love his judgment here. I just don't think that's where
I'd go. I mean, I would go to the New
York Giants if they were interested offensive coach. Again, what
Justin Fields needs now is to be refined sandpaper. The weaknesses,
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figure out how to play the position. We know he's
big enough, moves well enough, and is talented enough. He
needs the right mentor the right guru, just like Josh
Allen got Brian Dable, just like you forget Mahomes was wild, unorthodox.
He needed Andy Reid. Even in the first three or
four years with Mahomes, he would go off out of
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the fairway into the weeds. Mechanically they had to bring
him back. So that's where Fields is. He needs his Spengali,
he needs his guy to get him right on track.
Here's how you play the position. Here's how reading seeing
it didn't happen. Again, I've said he reminds me a
little of Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson got a defensive coach,
and I don't think Zach Willson it was ever going
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to be great. I didn't buy him as a number
two pick. But the Jets are Robert Sala, a defensive
culture without a ton of weapons. So I just this
is not the decision I would have made Seattle Seahawks.
Gino Smith, I don't know how many money next year.
I mean, you could go in and blow people away
and by Thanksgiving be the starter. Russell Wilson's done this before,
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and he may go in a two or three game
losing skid, Tomlin moves off him. But my guess is
Russell Wilson's the starter for the season and will be
with this offensive repertoire of tight end running backs in
George Pickens, He's going to move the chains. So I
didn't love that. Here's something else that was interesting. So
Keenan Allen was coming off a very good season and
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the Chargers would have kept him, but he needed to
take a pay cut. And Keenan Allen was quoted a
receiver I like a lot of saying I wasn't taking
a pay cut. So it's very interesting. Both Bosa, Khalil
Mack and Joey Bosa. And by the way, Mack had
a very good year. They took hay cuffs. Keenan Allen,
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a wide receiver, said I'm not gonna do it. And
that's interesting because an egge rusher isn't tied to another
player on his team. TJ. Watt can get to the
quarterback right like Bosa's get to the quarterback. You're not
really tied to anybody else. A receiver, even a great one,
is tied to his quarterback. I'm not leaving Jim Harbaugh
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and I'm not leaving Justin Herbert to go to Even
as much as I like Caleb Williams, a defensive coach
and a rookie quarterback in a good division, I'm not
doing it. I mean, Randy Moss, his last year with
the Raiders, had three touchdowns. A year later with Tom Brady,
he had twenty three. And that's Randy Moss. And I
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like Keenan Allen. He's a good receiver, very good. He
not Randy Moss. I mean the great Larry Fitzgerald. His
numbers go to the prime of his career. Win were
his numbers down for Larry Fitzgerald in his prime, Kevin
Cobb drew stand to your quarterbacks. So even all time
Hall of Fame first ballot guys Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald
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are absolutely tied to the quarterback. And I like Caleb Williams,
but he's a rookie. He's a kid. You know. Their
offensive line in Chicago could be problematic. The Chargers have
the left tackle, the quarterback and and here's the other thing.
Keenan Allen was very fortunate because the Chargers when he
was there were always a pass first offense. They didn't
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have dominating run games. For his time of the Chargers,
he also had Philip Rivers and Justin Herbert, a borderline
Hall of fame quarterback and a kid out of Oregon
with hall of fame talent. So like that, again, who
am I to tell anybody to take less money? Keenan
Allen is very good, but receivers, even Randy Moss, even
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a Calvin Johnson, even a Larry Fitzgerald, three of the
best all time, you are really tied to your quarterback.
Go look at Randy Moss's years in New England, look
at before and after. He's such a different flair so
to me, and you can make an argument because I
love what Minnesota, Green Bay and Detroit have offensively, is
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that you can make an argument the Bears have the
fourth best offensive talent in a very offensive division. So
rookie quarterback defensive coach on a hot seat, Matt Eberfluse
or Harbaugh and Herbert, I don't know that's one of those. Again,
who am I to tell anybody to take a pay cut?
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But if the edge rushers, you know, a guy can
either get sax or a cant are he not tied
to anybody. You're either coming off that edge if you're
Mac and Bosa and getting to the guy and creating
chaos and disruptionary or not. Receivers are tied to quarterbacks,
and I like Caleb, but I would take Herbert at
thirty one years old. I think it's very reasonable to
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assume that justin Herbert the next two years, he's going
to post better numbers with Harbaugh. Then Keenan will post
with Caleb Williams and Matt Eberflus, who I don't even
think survives two years, so you can have a major
coaching change by Thanksgiving in Chicago. Now, I do think
the Bears between Keenan Allen, DJ Moore running backs that
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can catch Cole comet Gerald Everett. I think the Bears
have done a very good job in free agency to
give Caleb Williams some nice weapons. The winner, one of
the winners of this free agency period is Caleb Williams.
He is now absolutely the quarterback, and the Bears have
more offensive talent now than they've had in a long time.
But if I'm Keenan Allen, man, it's hard to leave Herbert.
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They got a great left tackle, they've got a legendary coach.
That's hard to leave, very hard to leave. Colin Wright,
Colin Wrong. Top of next hour. Jeff Benedict in our
final hour. He wrote the book that became the documentary
on the Dynasty, which again it's I love sports docs.
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There's been a lot made, but I thought the MJ
documentary to me, again, that was very pro MJ. Many
viewed it as anti Pippen or marginalized Pippin's importance. Pippen
was not happy with it. This one is viewed as
very pro Bob Kraft, anti Belichick. Somebody's always unhappy in
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a doc because you need information. You get a sports book,
you're gonna have sources. Some people are willing to talk
Belichick and Pippin. Maybe not. So I don't worry too
much about that. I think I'm smart enough to watch
a doc, see where it's leaning, and still come to conclusions.
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Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, as Ola
was a bounty, plenty of both, Jmax, you watched a
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lot of college hoops over the weekend. I imagine I
watched a lot of NFL Free agency over the weekend,
all fired up on that. Oh really, we're gonna hand
a dynasty. I finally finish the dynasty on the Patriots.
So Scott Pioli and Jeff Benedict, who wrote the book
that's coming up today. It's fast one of my favorite
documentaries of all time. I'm not sure if it rises
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to MJ, but in terms of football Dynasties top of
my head. Best football dynasty I've ever seen. Wow.
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I mean, a lot of NFL news today, college basketball,
and I survived the move.
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I am present, shocking your wife control that You're all good.
So you know, I'm sitting there watching TV. Over the weekend,
I went in a little respite, little break right, and
I watched it. There's a lot of college basketball, and
there's also a lot of hype and hope and optimism
for the NFL season. We got the draft about a
month away, and it's a big quarterback draft, and I'm
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sitting there thinking to myself. One of the reasons I
love the NFL draft, especially at quarterbacks, is there's a
randomness to it. Who can figure out the quarterbacks? Some
are tall, some are short, some move, some don't, some
add libs, some not so good. Why I do so
few quarterbacks five or six first round quarterbacks sometimes one
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hits five massively fail. And I've always been fascinated in
any business finding the common thread. What doesn't interest me
as much as why? Why does it happen? And so
take the twenty twenty draft. First two rounds. They all
hit Burrow's great two, has gotten Pro Bowl votes, Justin
Herbert excellent, Jordan Love looks like he's going to be
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a guy. Jalen Hurts got to a Super Bowl. They
all hit at some level, and that was not considered
after Burrow a great quarterback draft, people had real questions
about to his health and Herbert's kind of mechanics. Jordan
Love was considered a total project, and Jalen Hurts I
was one of them. Is he a starter in the NFL?
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Then you go to the twenty twenty one draft and
that was nothing but hype and optimism, and they've all
bombed except Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, with Trey Lance Miss,
Justin Field's backup, Mac Jones not working, Kyle Trast not playing,
and Trevor Lawrence. I like him. He was the one
I said is gonna work. He has worked to some degree.
He's got a playoff win. But there is a randomness
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to it, and I'm fascinated with the why. There's a
Rubik's cube randomness to it. Remember in high school when
the you know, I was in high school when the
Rubik's cube comes out, or roughly there, high school, college,
and there was always one kid that figured it out.
He could do it repeatedly, over and over in like
three minutes. He wasn't the smartest kid. You knew, he
wasn't the best student. He was kind of an odd ball.
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But he figured out the Rubik's cube. And in the NFL,
in this randomness to find the right quarterback, the one
kid is the Packers. They ace it quickly. They got Farve,
they got Rogers, they got Jordan Love. So they're that kid.
But it's so random that organizations that we don't historically
trust are also great at it. The Cincinnati Bengals go
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back to Kenny Anderson. I know, I'm old and nev.
Kenny Anderson was outstanding, and then Boome Marisias and won
an MVP, and then Carson Palmer was great, and then
it was I mean Andy Dalton made multiple playoffs and
Joe Burrow. The Bengals are great at it. Yeah, they are.
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I mean there's been a few miss misses, but they've
hit on more than the Steelers have. And how about
the Chargers. John Hadel look him up, Dan Fouts, Drew Brees,
Philip Rivers, Justin Herbert the Chargers. We don't trust the
Chargers they're great at quarterbacks. The Bengals are great at quarterbacks.
The Packers have a three straight. It's a cautionary tale
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about this draft because I'm sitting there looking at all
these quarterbacks, and this draft class reminds me a lot
of the twenty twenty one draft class, where you got
about five six first rounders, all of them getting hype.
And there's one transcendent quarterback, Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence. Caleb
Williams can't miss. But Trevor went to a weird, odd,
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losing franchise, Jacksonville, and it's been bumpy. And here goes
Caleb Williams. He's going to another franchise that can't get
the quarterback right, the Chicago Bears. And so I looked
at this draft with Bo Nicks and Michael Pennox and
JJ McCarthy and Jaden Daniels and Drake May and Caleb Williams,
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and you know the thing that scares me and makes
me think about the twenty twenty one draft. Go look
at the twenty twenty one quarterbacks. A lot of them
went to defensive coaches, defensive cultures, and teams with more
good defensive players. Yeah, that's where Mac Jones went justin fields,
Zach Wilson at the time, Trevor Lawrence. They had to
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go buy offensive players this second year in the league.
And so I look at this class, and who are
the first three teams drafting Chicago, Washington, New England defensive coach,
defensive coach, defensive coach, all working with an offensive coordinator
they've never worked with before. You think that's ideal. That's
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why I have said, and I'll say it again, that
the two quarterbacks in this class, of the six or
seven that could get drafted in the first two rounds,
the two quarterbacks, my instincts tell me will work. I
think Caleb Williams, like Trevor Lawrence, is talented enough to
just figure out ways to be productive and win some games.
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He'll probably be on a second coach by Thanksgiving or
a second year, but I think he's talented enough. And
the other quarterback that'll work is whoever goes to Minnesota
love their offensive coach, Pro Bowl left tackle, superstar receiver,
excellent running back, Aaron Jones, excellent tight end, excellent number
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two receiver Jordan Addison in overall, a top twelve offensive
line that is a perfect place for a JJ McCarthy,
a Michael Pennocks Bonix. So I don't have a second
quarterback that's gonna work. It's Caleb Williams and whoever goes
to Minnesota. If you put Patrick Mahomes today from the Chiefs,
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you put them on the Vikings with those offensive pieces
that coach stability and ownership, I would say the Vikings
get to the super Bowl. That's how highly I think
of Minnesota's offensive talent, because I do believe outside of
the occasional Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence, and Caleb Williams, it's
mostly where you land. We make so much hype about
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JJ McCarthy. I don't love him. Many do if JJ
McCarthy goes to Minnesota. And by the way, did you
see what Minnesota did over the last three days. They
accumulated a second first round pick. So the Vikings have
two first round picks for one reason to move up
potentially to get a quarterback they view as the guy.
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Somebody could be Drake May they can move up to three.
It could be JJ McCarthy. They may have to move
up to seven or eight. But I thought the Vikings
were the interesting team. They accumulate a second first round pick.
My guess is they're doing that because they may have
to use it to get their quarterback, and that kid
who can sit behind Sam Darnold for one year, maybe
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just until Thanksgiving, will have the second highest shot to succeed.
I For years and years I tried to predict who
was going to work, and by and large, next year's draft,
by the way, does not have a Caleb Williams, Andrew Lucker,
Trevor Lawrence. It'll come down again to who gets the
offensive coach, who gets the best offensive line, who gets
the weapons. Because what's happening in football now, it's so popular,
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there's so much money. By Thanksgiving of your second year,
even if you're talented, people have emotionally in the building
moved on. All you can hope for is a quarterback.
The owner likes you, Daniel Jones, and wants to resign you.
All right, So I watched We'll have a couple of
guests on today to talk about it. I like documentaries.
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I watch very few movies. I watched one hundred docks
a year. I watched him watch six this weekend. I
like watching docs. There's not a lot of great sports documentaries,
and I thought Dynasty was excellent. Now some people it's
looking back in the twenty years ten parts of the
Patriots Dynasty, So I mean, obviously you could do thirty
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parts in this thing. They took the Aaron Hernandez to
flight gait, the Malcolm Butler Super Bowl, the squabbles, Tom
and Belichick at the end. They took the most dramatic stuff.
Same with MJ and the Bulls. They're not going to
talk about a Tuesday game against Orlando in a documentary.
You're going to talk about Robin in Vegas, Jerry Krause
and Michael not getting along the punch. That's what you're
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going to talk about in the documentary, right, Like these
are not endless. You're going to talk about for forty
five minutes, ten different times, the biggest stuff. So people
said that this was very pro Bob Kraft and anti Belichick,
and maybe it was. You have to get access from
some people to do a documentary. But you know what
I noticed in this documentary, nobody bad mouth Brady, but
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almost everybody criticized Belichick, the owner, his offensive coordinator, his
defensive stars, his defensive players, the loyal Matt Slater. Why
was everybody willing to go after Bill? Why would nobody
go after Tom? Because, as Danny Amndola said, we played
for Tom, we were coached by Bill, and I have
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found something over my life to be true about dynasties
in sports. You can go back to Shaq and Kobe,
Jordan's Bulls, Brady and Belichick. There's three things they all
have in common. Number One, work, ethic and vision creates
the dynasty. They found Brady late in the draft. They
found him and had a vision. The second thing is
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resilience that will maintain it. M Bulls, Brady Belichick. Dynasties
are hard. Empires are hard, so hard work and vision
creates it. Resilience, toughness maintains it, and a hunger for
power destroys it. Kobe and Shack both wanted to be
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the guy right like they both had to be the
guy MJ. And the front office of the Bulls they
resented MJ. Phil Jackson, And in this one it's very clear,
say what you want about this being a pro craft
pro Brady documentary. Tom was highly highly complimentary of Bill
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did not have to be. But Belichick was asked about
the Malcolm Butler situation. And he would not comment everybody.
Players were furious. Brady was mad. Josh McDaniel's the coordinator,
the loyal coordinator, was upset and Bill would never answer it.
Why because Bill he wanted to control the question, the answer,
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and the narrative to the very end. Bill, like the
late Bobby Knight, had an insane belief in accountability, and
yet in the end he didn't have any Bill wouldn't
answer the question, how in God's name can you cost
us a Super Bowl by not playing Malcolm Butler and
we can't stop Nick Foles? And he was the most
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consistent defender on that team for most of the year.
If you're gonna preach accountability, then you gotta be accountable
in the biggest moments. Belichick wasn't. It's a fascinating on
Apple TV documentary. Regardless of who it favors. Belichick had
multiple opportunities in this documentary and in his final years,
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and he wanted to control Brady. Be hard on Brady,
control the Garoppolo move. You're a coach or not an owner.
You're a coach or not a GM You're a coach
or not the star quarterback as football pivoted to an
offensive league, a quarterback driven industry. Bill wanted to treat
Brady like he was second year Tommy and he was
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the greatest player at the most important position ever. And
it was at that point indisputable, and Bill wouldn't budge.
So great stuff. Great stuff. I saw an NBA story
that is interesting, and it's you know, people are tired
of the Lebron MJ debate, so we don't do it.
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But there was years ago, and this was a real thing.
When he was just leaving OKC, going to the Warriors
and winning MVP in the finals, there was a k
D and Lebron discussion and I didn't believe it. I
didn't think it was disputable. I didn't think it was arguable,
but a lot of people were. You know, KD the
of the easy score. KD is the one here. Interesting.
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What's happened in Phoenix? Isn't it? Talk about that? And
justin fields to the Steelers. A lot of stuff in
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So it's interesting. Years and years ago he had left
Oklahoma City. He goes to the Warriors, you know it
by now. KD joins a team that had already won
a championship before him, Steve Kerr, Steph clay Draymond. They
were a percolating dynasty, and so Kadi joins them and
is the best overall talent on the team. Two times
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I think finals MVP, and there were a lot of discussions.
I never bought into him, but there were a lot
of discussions. He's better than Lebron, and that's like timeout.
Lebron is much bigger, broader, and greater in what he
brings to a team cohesion, in chemistry. Kd's just a
great player, a great score. So KD goes to Brooklyn
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and he gets his points. It's a mess. And so
he goes down too the Suns and it's Bradley, Beal
and Booker all three really good scores, and the sound
are a bit of a mess. Lebron's teams may not
be great, but he's still got ad who's inconsistent. Austin
reeves he got a championship in the Bubble Western Conference Finals,
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they've run through coaches. The Lakers aren't a mess. Ever
with Lebron, the Sons are only eighth in the West,
lost yesterday to the Bucks. Without Yannis, they're only fifteen
and eleven. When Booker, Beale and KD play and defensively,
they're just not very good. But bigger than all of
that is what are they? And that's the difference between
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Lebron and KD. You may hate Lebron because he is
something very few people hate KD. Lebron is a leader,
sometimes a villain. He is the setup guy, the frontman
of the band. He leads a team, he sets the culture.
Katie gets points. He's a piece. He's plugging play. When
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he went to Golden State, they didn't ask him to
be a leader. Draymond was, Steph was, Kerr was veteran,
andre Iguidalo was. When confronted by Draymon and Steve Kerr,
Kadie was uncomfortable. Again, what are they? The Warriors of
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Oa's been something and stood for something because of Chris,
because of Steph Curry and Steve Kerr and Draymond Green.
Draymond Green insures toughness, Steph Curry insures leadership, and ball
movement and kerr insures intelligence and a style of play.
They are something Lebron James distribution, leadership IQ the Lakers
(17:00):
something he gets players to play at their very best.
You think Austin Reeves is this good? If he plays
for the Wizards or the Orlando Magic, he'd get lost
and you'd never hear of him again. Kyle Kuzma with
Lebron was something. Now what is he? And that's my
knock on KD. Sons are desperate for leadership because Booker,
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before Chris Paul got there and now that he's gone, Booker,
like KD, is just an excellent scorer. This is not
a criticism of Kevin Durant. I've said before if you
had a one on one tournament, he'd be the best
player in league history. I love watching him play. I'm
a fan of his work. But the difference between Lebron
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and KD is Lebron is always something beyond points and production.
He can be a villain. He won in Miami being
that he can be a leader, joyful getting Kyrie Irv
to finally be a championship player. He can take broken
down Anthony Davis, who people love, but nobody trusts his
(18:07):
health and win in the bubble. Everybody with Lebron works
around him. He is this force the sun that everything
hovers around. Doesn't oways win the title, but often gets
to the final or the conference championship with disparate parts,
which wouldn't work with anybody else. If you put Lebron
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with Booker and with Bradley Beale, they would not be
fifteen and eleven when playing together and eighth in the West. Again,
not a criticism of Kadie, it's a reality of his personality.
He's one of my favorite fifteen players of all time.
I'd vote him in today to the Hall of Fame.
I've loved watching him play. But Katie's greatest moments were
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not in Okac, Brooklyn or Phoenix. They were when he
joined a team with great leadership, because that's not what
he does, and that cohesion in chemistry is a large
part of what defines Lebron. James Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
No, no turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Let's start with some news we missed while we were gone.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Kenny Pickett's time in Pittsburgh ended with a bit of
a thud. Remember he was a first round pick in
twenty twenty two, and he was traded. According to Pittsburgh
Post Gazette, the Steelers traded him because of his behavior,
and he expressed unhappiness over the arrival of Russell Wilson.
And you know here in the notes, don't forget last season,
(19:39):
Pickett was not happy to be the backup to Mason.
Rudolph Pickett was healthy, but Tomlin just wrote, Rudolph, people
are like, what the heck's going on there?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
So aren't you a bit surprised that the Steelers, loyal
to a fault, moved off the Pittsburgh kid. I've got
to be honest, I said, for a year, they're gonna
be too loyal. They're gonna be loyal to the kid.
And to their credit, Pittsburgh moved off a quarterback who
(20:08):
in the AFC is simply not good enough. It's the
right decision, but I am shocked. This is a It's
actually it shows you something that I didn't think Pittsburgh
was capable of, which is like, yeah, we're moving off
a guy. It would be very easy to do with
New York Giants and play him and pay him and
just sit around. And that's what I thought they would do.
(20:28):
But come on, in his career, he's got four He's
got thirteen touchdowns and thirteen.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Picksteen touchdowns in twenty four.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Stars and he played a ton of college games, same facility,
so he's got comfort, he's got continuity.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Well, he was just average in college until his final year.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I think he was like the fifth year he was
like twenty three years old, he had like forty touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
So that was the concern out of college. When you
see a quarterback who pops like in his fourth year
of playing, people are always very reluctant because you're just
a much older kid.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well that remember that happened to Burrow to the birthday
first year at LSU.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
He was like mid They were all maybe he's a
seventh round pick.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, then he explodes with the greatest season ever. So
I think people saw Picket and we're like, ooh, what
if he's.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Job Yeah, no, I get it, he's not.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
So he'll be now the backup in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
How about Pittsburgh changing their quarterback groom last year Mason,
Rudolph Pickett, and Trubisky.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Now it's Russell Wilson and Justin Fiel. That's a big upgrade.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh yeah, it's a far more talented mobile quarterback.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
How much of this has to do with Tomlin being
in his final year saying guys, we're just going all in.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I'm giving it one last shot.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It definitely feels like this is Tomlin's last hurrah. Yeah,
I don't think he's I don't. My guess is he's
not gonna be there after this year.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I think, you know, again, this was so unexpected. I mean,
it's the right move, but so unexpected. And I do
I don't think Mike has a feel for offense. So
let's go get a couple of athletes. They have a
new offensive coordinator, they have nice pieces, but I just
moving off picket surprised me.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
How about this? So Russell Wilson goes to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
He's like, oh right, we're going to Pittsburgh and the
man and then trade Pickett. He's like, what's up? All
of a sudden, here come justin field. Do you think
he was ticked? Because there was a report that Tomlin
called Wilson and said, hey, you're the starter, but Russ
is gonna be looking over.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
His shoulder, you know that right? Well? And also it's
a great division Baltimore burrows back. Cleveland's got I think
a great coach and a good quarterback. So the truth
is it's not out of the realm of possibility that
in October Russell has back to back stinkers, you know,
against the Ravens in Baltimore and the Bengals, and then
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Justin Field steps in. So this is not a Russell's won.
And you got a college kid in the seventh round,
like Justin Fields at practice will make plays and the teammates,
the younger teammates may be like, that's our guy. So
the divide on a two game losing streak, which, by
the way, it's just gonna happen that division. You're gonna
have two game losing streaks. The divide is real.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah over under Halloween before Justin Field is starting, I
would do under.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But by Thanksgiving he will have started a game.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Fields will get a look.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I I remember a picket last year against the Niners.
I remember I loved Pittsburgh in that game. Picket was awful.
You're like, oh, he's not the guy. I just I
wonder if it's gonna be a real short leash because
you got Fields waiting in the wings and Fields can
run around and make some things happen.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like, well, you don't have to You don't have to
keep Russell or Fields after this year. So I wouldn't
even be surprised if Pittsburgh didn't go draft in the
third round the two lane quarterback who will probably be
early third round. I mean, I could see them saying, listen,
we're gonna try you to. We're gonna bring this kid
into be in the quarterback room for a year with
a veteran and a kid, and let's see how it
plays out. But I you know, they spend their money
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on defense in Pittsburgh, so not smart.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
But you know, anyways, so let's get to the Jets.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
They made a move grabbing Cowboys tackle Tyron Smith, fourteen
year veteran, eight time Pro Bowler. Listen, I don't love
getting another aging thirty something year old. Last year it
was Dwayne Brown who was thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And I like this move a lot by the Jets.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Listen, it's not the worst move in the world. The
Jets apparently were surprised to land him. He's thirty three.
Last four seasons, he's missed thirty seven games. Okay, he
has two years ago torn ham straight okay, and he
missed like fourteen games.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So here's where I like it. It's a great left
tackle draft. It's a great draft. Could be six in
the first round, four in the second. So my take
with the Jets now is Tyron Smith, let's just pencil
him in for twelve to thirteen starts, okay. So even
if you get a first round offensive tackle, that kid's
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not going to be ready to protect off an achilles
surgery Aaron Rodgers in Week one. Left tackle is one
of those positions, even the great ones. The kid for
the Giants, the left tackle Andrew Thomas, he didn't have
a great rookie year. He's tremendous now. So it's a
big difference between blocking a college rush end and you know,
being in the AFC and blocking guys in your own
(24:59):
division like Von Miller. So to me, you can either
draft another first round left tackle and just say hey,
we're gonna start you by Thanksgiving, but you're gonna learn.
I think that's smart, or go get one in later rounds.
But the Jets are lucky that they land Tyron Smith.
When Tyron Smith played last year in the games that
I recall, if he gets his hand on you. It's over.
(25:19):
So it's like Aaron Donald, He's still great. The difference
is Aaron doesn't get banged up as much as Tyrone.
But I think if he plays thirteen games next year,
you're not getting to Aaron Rodgers in those thirteen games.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, I think he had over eight hundred snaps and
threw only three pens.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
He's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
So let me just quickly throw this at you. The
Jets now have three new starting offensive linemen. Left tackle,
left guard who came from Baltimore, right tackle who came
from Baltimore. We know Joe Douglas is with the Ravens.
Obviously the familiarity. Are you still drafting a left tackle
with the first no?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
No, no, no, well not with the first pick. I wouldn't
be bothered, But I think you can make an argument
now with the Jets, is this accomplishes two things. Tyron
Smith's good player. He's still a very He's a top
five or six tackle when he's on the field. Absolutely
like Trent Williams is the best or second best. Trent
(26:14):
misses time, not as much as Tyrone, but he misses time.
So you've solved that this is a very deep wide
receiver draft, So the Jets could get a receiver in
the second, third, fourth, whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
They don't have a second. This is where it gets interesting,
but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
My take is where they draft right now?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Ten, ten, eleven. I think you trade down for sure,
have to.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Oh please, don't be shocked Roma Dunze.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I don't think he's gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Actually no, Well, the Bears were looking at him and
they just got Keenan out.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
They're not probably Moore.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
We haven't talked about the Bears. Man, that's that's a buye.
You love Chicago.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Well, I'm just saying with the Jets, this accomplishes two things.
Protects Aaron and does allow you to get a playmaker
in a wide receiver heavy top ten pick, So it
kind of accomplishes two things.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Bide down.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Jets are wealthy. The Jets need a receiver and a tackle.
The draft is loaded with receivers and tackles, so very lucky.
What the Jets need this draft has in surplus. And
you know next year it may not be a tackle draft.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
We're hopeful for the quarterbacks staying healthy.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Final story is one of your favorite players in the league,
Colin Kyrie Irving hit arguably the greatest buzzer beater this
season has seen in the NBA to take down the Nuggets.
Here's the final play call and Kyrie's reaction to the
shot over Yokich.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Cleave it in bound Kleba looking in for Irving, Irving
for the wind.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
South finish from Perving.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Just absurd.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Sometimes that's been, you know, just a hour straight just
working on straight left hand stuff. And you know, being
a small guard for a large part of the portion
of my life. I consider myself a space out for now.
But you know, you know, but just being a small guard,
you just gotta have a multitude of finishes and that's
something I've been working on since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I'm gonna make an argument now in the context of this,
it's not the most important buzzer beater. I'm not saying
that it's one of the greatest buzzer beaters. The only
one I think is greater is Magic Johnson's hook shot
against the Celtics. Of all the shots you could do,
Magic did a hook shot down the lane. You gotta
(28:33):
that to me, that's one of the greatest buzzer beaters.
A small guard goes to a left handed free throw
line hook. It's one of the greatest buzzer beaters of
all time. I'm not saying it's the most epic or important,
but most guys go to their straints. Kobe would do
a following Jordan of mid range Lebrono drive to the basket.
I got a guard using his off hand, a fifteen
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foot left handed hook. The only the first thing I
thought about is, by the way, Magic had a multitude
of finishes as well. He wasn't, as I would say,
skyhook ma. He didn't have the touch offensively quite as
Kyrie does. As a shooter. Magic wasn't a great jump shooter.
But the Magic hook against the Celtics says like you're
bringing that out in that situation, are you out of
your mind? That is a top one or two buzzer
(29:19):
beater of all time in terms of the shot difficult,
the moment the difficult, and some guys probably hit a
half court shot.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
But that's luck. That's luck.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
This is not luck, This is not something. This is
something he's been working on for years. Look at that thing.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
That's difficult.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
MAVs are now tied three way Tide Kings MAVs Sons
for the sixth spot.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
The sixth spot is coveted Colin.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Whoever gets six almost certainly will face Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yes, no, Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yes, when you were out a couple weeks ago, I
said Dallas was the biggest threat to the Nuggets. I
don't want to go overboard, but I'm just telling you
this Dallas team. Keep an eye on them, like I really,
I think they're the second best team in the West. Oh,
come on, who you want? Okay, see, go ahead, you
got it. Oh you got the Clippers paper clips in
Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Who's gonna make a stop for you? Tie game against
the Clippers?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Defensive league? Man, you know this. You gotta make make
stops on the Chiefs. Nobody it's offense.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
It was their defense this year. You gotta have a
defensive stopper Anthony Davis Gordon for the Nuggets. By the way,
Gordon Gordon was Gordon Kyrie Irving Kyry ran around. I'm like, no,
I that that is a all. I don't think I'm
being Looney Tunes here. It's one of the greatest closing shots. Yeah,
to go to that out of your tool bag the
(30:39):
left handed.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
His bag is deep. Yes, Yes, it's impressive, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
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Speaker 1 (30:53):
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Speaker 1 (32:03):
So the headline says new stunning detail of Justin Field's
trade to the Steelers revealed by Iron Rappaport Ian Rappaport.
According to this story, the Bears had several offers for
Justin Fields, but sent him to Pittsburgh because that's what
(32:26):
Justin Fields preferred, So he preferred to be a backup
with another defensive coach. Is Justin Field's content being a
backup because he may eventually be the starter if Russell
Wilson was hurt or struggled. But Russell Wilson is a
defined Super Bowl winning two Super Bowl appearing veteran quarterback.
(32:52):
He did not come here without assurances. I guarantee you.
Russell Wilson didn't come here without assurances. As Jacket said
five minutes ago, he got him. Reportedly, Fields is still
trying to figure out how to play the position. So
if Fields could have chosen other organizations. I'd love to
(33:13):
know what they are, because we've got an organization in
Pittsburgh that's a better version of Chicago. Defense is where
they generally spend their time and money. Mike Tomlin has
struggled to get the coordinator right on that side in
the O line. They haven't had a top defense in
half a top offense, a top ten offense. They haven't
had that in half a decade. Even the last couple
(33:34):
of years with Big Ben were a mess. So, according
to Ian Rapaport, several teams multitude of options, and he
chose a backup role in a really, really tough division,
probably the best division in football, with a defensive coach,
a defensive culture, and a franchise that just traded away
before he got there, a very talented young receiver in
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Deontay Johnson for an average corner. So I never loved
Justin Field's judgment from the pocket. I'm not sure I
love his judgment here. I just don't think that's where
I'd go. I mean, I would go to the New
York Giants if they were interested offensive coach. Again, what
Justin Fields needs now is to be refined sandpaper. The weaknesses,
(34:19):
figure out how to play the position. We know he's
big enough, moves well enough, and is talented enough. He
needs the right mentor the right guru, just like Josh
Allen got Brian Dable, just like you forget Mahomes was wild, unorthodox.
He needed Andy Reid. Even in the first three or
four years with Mahomes, he would go off out of
(34:40):
the fairway into the weeds. Mechanically they had to bring
him back. So that's where Fields is. He needs his Spengali,
he needs his guy to get him right on track.
Here's how you play the position. Here's how reading seeing
it didn't happen. Again, I've said he reminds me a
little of Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson got a defensive coach,
and I don't think Zach Willson it was ever going
(35:00):
to be great. I didn't buy him as a number
two pick. But the Jets are Robert Sala, a defensive
culture without a ton of weapons. So I just this
is not the decision I would have made Seattle Seahawks.
Gino Smith, I don't know how many money next year.
I mean, you could go in and blow people away
and by Thanksgiving be the starter. Russell Wilson's done this before,
(35:20):
and he may go in a two or three game
losing skid, Tomlin moves off him. But my guess is
Russell Wilson's the starter for the season and will be
with this offensive repertoire of tight end running backs in
George Pickens, He's going to move the chains. So I
didn't love that. Here's something else that was interesting. So
Keenan Allen was coming off a very good season and
(35:41):
the Chargers would have kept him, but he needed to
take a pay cut. And Keenan Allen was quoted a
receiver I like a lot of saying I wasn't taking
a pay cut. So it's very interesting. Both Bosa, Khalil
Mack and Joey Bosa. And by the way, Mack had
a very good year. They took hay cuffs. Keenan Allen,
(36:02):
a wide receiver, said I'm not gonna do it. And
that's interesting because an egge rusher isn't tied to another
player on his team. TJ. Watt can get to the
quarterback right like Bosa's get to the quarterback. You're not
really tied to anybody else. A receiver, even a great one,
is tied to his quarterback. I'm not leaving Jim Harbaugh
(36:24):
and I'm not leaving Justin Herbert to go to Even
as much as I like Caleb Williams, a defensive coach
and a rookie quarterback in a good division, I'm not
doing it. I mean, Randy Moss, his last year with
the Raiders, had three touchdowns. A year later with Tom Brady,
he had twenty three. And that's Randy Moss. And I
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like Keenan Allen. He's a good receiver, very good. He
not Randy Moss. I mean the great Larry Fitzgerald. His
numbers go to the prime of his career. Win were
his numbers down for Larry Fitzgerald in his prime, Kevin
Cobb drew stand to your quarterbacks. So even all time
Hall of Fame first ballot guys Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald
(37:06):
are absolutely tied to the quarterback. And I like Caleb Williams,
but he's a rookie. He's a kid. You know. Their
offensive line in Chicago could be problematic. The Chargers have
the left tackle, the quarterback and and here's the other thing.
Keenan Allen was very fortunate because the Chargers when he
was there were always a pass first offense. They didn't
(37:27):
have dominating run games. For his time of the Chargers,
he also had Philip Rivers and Justin Herbert, a borderline
Hall of fame quarterback and a kid out of Oregon
with hall of fame talent. So like that, again, who
am I to tell anybody to take less money? Keenan
Allen is very good, but receivers, even Randy Moss, even
(37:49):
a Calvin Johnson, even a Larry Fitzgerald, three of the
best all time, you are really tied to your quarterback.
Go look at Randy Moss's years in New England, look
at before and after. He's such a different flair so
to me, and you can make an argument because I
love what Minnesota, Green Bay and Detroit have offensively, is
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that you can make an argument the Bears have the
fourth best offensive talent in a very offensive division. So
rookie quarterback defensive coach on a hot seat, Matt Eberfluse
or Harbaugh and Herbert, I don't know that's one of those. Again,
who am I to tell anybody to take a pay cut?
(38:31):
But if the edge rushers, you know, a guy can
either get sax or a cant are he not tied
to anybody. You're either coming off that edge if you're
Mac and Bosa and getting to the guy and creating
chaos and disruptionary or not. Receivers are tied to quarterbacks,
and I like Caleb, but I would take Herbert at
thirty one years old. I think it's very reasonable to
(38:53):
assume that justin Herbert the next two years, he's going
to post better numbers with Harbaugh. Then Keenan will post
with Caleb Williams and Matt Eberflus, who I don't even
think survives two years, so you can have a major
coaching change by Thanksgiving in Chicago. Now, I do think
the Bears between Keenan Allen, DJ Moore running backs that
(39:14):
can catch Cole comet Gerald Everett. I think the Bears
have done a very good job in free agency to
give Caleb Williams some nice weapons. The winner, one of
the winners of this free agency period is Caleb Williams.
He is now absolutely the quarterback, and the Bears have
more offensive talent now than they've had in a long time.
But if I'm Keenan Allen, man, it's hard to leave Herbert.
(39:39):
They got a great left tackle, they've got a legendary coach.
That's hard to leave, very hard to leave. Colin Wright,
Colin Wrong. Top of next hour. Jeff Benedict in our
final hour. He wrote the book that became the documentary
on the Dynasty, which again it's I love sports docs.
(40:01):
There's been a lot made, but I thought the MJ
documentary to me, again, that was very pro MJ. Many
viewed it as anti Pippen or marginalized Pippin's importance. Pippen
was not happy with it. This one is viewed as
very pro Bob Kraft, anti Belichick. Somebody's always unhappy in
(40:22):
a doc because you need information. You get a sports book,
you're gonna have sources. Some people are willing to talk
Belichick and Pippin. Maybe not. So I don't worry too
much about that. I think I'm smart enough to watch
a doc, see where it's leaning, and still come to conclusions.
Hour two and a Monday, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. Around
the corner, Just starting here. A lot to talk about.
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