December 30, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin praises Washington Commanders quarterback Jayden Daniels as he leads the team to overtime victory against the Falcons. The situation is coming to a close in New York but Aaron Rodgers continues to sink to new lows.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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We got a lot to talk about. Colin Wright, Colin Raw,
plenty of boat top of next hour. Matt Hasselbeck, Hu'soha's money,
He'll bring the bag. Jmack. I don't know if you noticed,
but Sam Donald, next weekend we'll be playing for the
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number one see in the NFC. Oh, by the way,
once again, slide in Sam Darnald. Why is it he
in the MVP Conversation? Am I crazy? He leads in
like every category in the MVP co edition. Your ric
rock Perdy was in it last year.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Rydnoald's like a carbon copy of rock Perdy.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's amazing He's been slided for six years. Let's start
with this. For the last six years, I've been mocked, ridiculed,
laughed at, and it hurt my feelings. And I still
believed Sam Donald's got a little bit of Andrew Luck. Tough, relentless,
like a linebacker playing quarterback, coachable, throws a bad pick,
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follows it up with a great pass. What you're seeing
is the Andrew Luck thing, and they're asking him to
make big boy throws. He leads the NFL sixty completions
over twenty plus yards. Those are Brady and Mahome throws.
No dink and dunk here, seventy percent completion rate, twenty
six t d He's three picks in the red zone.
He's the league's most efficient quarterback now and in the
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second half of the last seven games, one thousand yards
and a passer rating of one fourteen. Why is he
not in the MVP discussion? Hello, look at all the numbers,
because you've already disqualified him. You made up your mind,
and that's what we do in the media. You have
decided it's a cute story. But no, no, no, no, no,
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this roster isn't great. There's no bot Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold.
Look at the numbers? Who do you trust more in
a playoff game? Are you sure it's Lamar? And I
love Lamar? But what I said years ago, I said,
there's Samandrew Luck here. All you did just took shots.
Here's the thing. When you watch him play, you know what,
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you notice how much his coach. His coach trusts him,
And don't worry about being liked in life. It's who
likes you. And everybody in America is bailing on Sam Donald.
You know who didn't. Kyle Shanahan's like, I think he's good,
Kevin O'Connell McVeigh, Yeah, I think he's really good. Yeah,
I'm gonna trust those guys. Yeah. A lot of defensive
core ordinators who are anti Riss didn't like him. And
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by the way, he'll give you an ugly pick, So
does Mahomes, so does Josh Allen, sod is Justin Herbert.
But after his pick yesterday nine for twelve hundred and
thirty four passer rating, that is Andrew Luck. I don't
think he's his gifted as Andrew Luck. I never have
I said it. Then there's some Andrew Luck a little
far of here. But what you're seeing now, look at
what they ask him to do. Any time you watch
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a game, when you watch the offense, watch what a
coaching staff allows the quarterback to do. In fact, my
criticism of Minnesota yesterday was when they let in the
second half. I was like, Kevin, turn the governor down,
throttle it down. You don't have to have you don't
have to have him throwing in the teeth of Green
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Bay's pass rushing defense. But that's how much confidence they have.
And this is not the best the roster will be.
They've got cap space. They've got a lot of really
really good young players, as Sam Darnold, hero thirty three
of forty three should be in the MVP conversation. Show
you a picture of him here going into the locker room.
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They know what they have in Minnesota. What they have
is an MVP level quarterback. It's not just a great
story that was September and October and then in November.
Do we have a great player now? It's like, do
we have the MVP. You can't let him go. His
contract now is fifty. It's not a forty. It's a
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fifty on the market. Here's Sam after a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Of water, bottles, a lot of water.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It was just mayhem. I think I blacked out. You know,
when Aaron Jones grabbed me and lifted me up. I
didn't know what to do with my hands in that situation,
so Ricky Bobby style. So it was Yeah, it was
an interesting moment, but a fun moment man, to be
embraced by your teammates like that.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Sam has played so well for three months straight. You know,
I always do the Super Bowl bubble about once a month,
every five weeks. Here's my super Bowl bubble. Green Bay's out,
Minnesota is in. I think the Rams, the Packers, and
the Chargers are still a year away. Green Bays disappointed
me in the last few weeks. Can't beat Minnesota or Detroit.
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I'll put Buffalo, Kansas City, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Detroit. And Darnald
has been good enough. This isn't me being a fanboy.
Donald has been so absolutely spectacular. They lost their left
tackle earlier this year. Arguably the first or second best
left tackle has he lost. Since it's not like this
is a great defense. Green Bay's got better personnel, so
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it's half the league. Where do you go, Sammy? One
person in America did not bail on you. Anyway. Let's
go to Jaden Daniels. So here's of the many reasons
the NFL is king. This could be number one. It's
the League of hope. Washington was a tire fire because
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of the worst owner, arguably in professional sports today, and
so they just cleaned out the building. They sold the
team new GM and I said, you know what, Snyder
had such a stench around him. I think they're going
to make the playoffs. And I think Jaden's going to
be really good. I didn't think he was going to
be this. I said, you know, he'll be like Lamar
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Jackson light. I'm not sure if it's light. This kid's insane.
And in the NFL, if you get the quarterback right,
everything else falls into place. This is not a great roster.
But even their defense last year worse than the league
total defense. Now it's ten. Why is that? Because their
defense plays with a lead. A great quarterback is makeup
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on a blemish. It's an eraser. Everybody's got issues. A
great quarterback erases them, and an average quarterback. What Indianapolis
has multiplies them. And this old line's not great, but
now it's formidable. The defense has issues on the back end,
but when you play with the lead, defensive line can
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pin their ears back. Every unit now, I mean they
didn't make that many personnel changes, but every unit looks better.
And I mean, like yesterday is a prime example of
what a great player can do. I thought the Atlanta
Falcons finally getting a pass rush Matthew Judhon. I thought
they had some good coverage. It didn't matter. As good
as Pennix was, he can't do this. You can add
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twenty five to thirty five percent to a playbook because
Jayden Daniels can run, and I love Pennix, but he
looked limited in the sand. He's excellent compared to Jayden Daniels. So,
and what's really remarkable, it's not just when you're good.
The first thing we noticed about Patrick Malmes and you
noticed that I noticed this. By year two he was
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actually almost better trailing in games. A lot of quarterbacks
with the lead, it's second and three. You got good protection,
Cooper Rush can make plays. You trail by two touchdowns
end of the third, they know you've got to throw.
You got a banged up offensive line. That was the
first sign with Mahomes. Oh wait, bro this is different.
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He may be the best come from behind quarterback not
named John Hallway ever Jayden Daniels in the fourth quarter
in overtime this year. This again, this is an okay
offensive line. He's got one weapon, has the highest passer
rating in the league. That is insane. And remember back
in camp when generally when you get a rookie quarterback,
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like in Chicago with Caleb Williams, or Denver with Drake
may or New Denver with Bownicks, or New England with
Drake Maye, remember what the coaches always doing. Well, he's
got a long way to go. Let's slow down, let's
pump the brakes. Cliff Kingsbury and Dan Quinn every time
you put a mic in front of them, they were like,
hoo hoo hoo. This guy's unbelievable. You're like, Okay, this
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guy's got to be good. Coaches never do that. Kingsbury's
been in the league. Dan Quinn's been in the league forever.
Dan Quinn during the preseason, this kid's unbelievable. You're like,
what are you doing? Doesn't matter, kid can handle it.
I mean, I just I love this kid. No ego
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loves his teammates. A couple drops yesterday by his receivers.
How many penalties did Washington have? You're pulling your hair out,
and he's just like, all right, another play. No bad
body language. You see that occasionally from a quarterback in
New York. No pointing fingers. He's a foxhole guy going
gets tough. The kid just head down, no finger pointing.
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Zach Ertz, a veteran tight end, noticed it in camp.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
It comes down to having a really good quarterback in
this see if you want to be a good team.
And from the moment I got here, seeing Jaden out there,
I continually said, you know, this guy isn't someone that's
gonna be good. He's good now. He's the most mature
rookie I've ever been around. He approaches the game, he
loves to learn, and so he just he exudes such
a quiet confidence. He's not out there a raw, raw guy.
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But we all know how good he is and how
much confident we have in him, and so he doesn't
need to say anything.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Nobody has delivered in the DC area on this level
of promise in years. This is a candidate we can
all get behind a bi partisan quarterback. Yes, we're all
in on Jaden Daniels, and he and I both approved
this message. This kid is magic. You're watching magic. I'm
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not even sure if he's Lamar Jackson light. It's like
I see all the same qualities. I mean, I'm watching
Penix last night, and I think Pennix is going to
be exceptional, and Jadeen Daniels shrinks him. I mean, that's
how good this kid is and all the boxes. No ego, selfless, athletic, accurate,
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hard working foxhole guy j Mack. I grew up in Washington, DC.
They used to have a thirty year wait list on
season tickets, and then an owner came in and ruined it.
All the goodwill. That reservoir of goodwill lost it. You
can walk up and buy a ticket to any game.
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Good luck getting season tickets going forward with the Commanders.
This kid is Broadway.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, him and Cliff Kingsbury working some magic in Washington.
That offense unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I mean, listen, I thought you were gonna.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Go the opposite way and take some shots at Rahee
Morris for botching that game.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I've come to terms with coaches in the NFL. Is
anybody now that Belichick is retired. Is anybody good with
clock management? Zach Taylor drove me nuts. Oh gosh, don't
start Raheem Morris drove me nuts. But I've come to
the conclusion that nobody's great at it.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Does Bradie moorees think you can take time outs home,
like after the game, you can just bring them home.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
We both had Atlanta, so it was, uh, just.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I know, I take a pair. I like you being positive.
Jade Daniels was exceptional. Oh the kids just he's spectaclic
We need.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You need to do a new top ten quarterback list.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
He's how's he not? You know, it's one of these things, well,
you know how sometimes people say, hey, you're you're confirmation bias. Yeah,
I thought he was going to be really good, or
it's recency bias. Folks. When you get to the end
of an NFL season and Sam Darnold's been great for
fourteen weeks or thirteen of the seventeen, that's not really
recency bias. He's having a great year. And when you
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watch Jaden Daniels, I can argue his best month was September.
Remember in September, We're like, whoa, Okay, this can't last
and then he had your usual problem, and now he's
restarted it in the last three to four weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
That rib injury seems like he's past that. There was
the hic up the light. He does take some shots.
He did take a big shot.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
At the goal line. Oh yeah, one hundred and twenty
seven yards on the ground line. I mean they locked
up McLaurin right.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
He had one catch for five yards and Jaye Daniel's like, okay,
I'll just do this my sushi.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Atlanta should have won that game and controlled big portions.
The only reason they didn't is Jaden Daniels. I mean,
Atlanta controlled the first half. Atlanta should have called timeouts
and gotten the field goal. Jaden Daniels is the only
reason you win. Again. A great quarterback is an eraser.
Every team has issues. An average quarterback is a multiplier.
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Little things become big pains, and that you know what,
this kid just erased a really bad first half where
Atlanta controlled it. Uh, don't forget Colin Wright, colinra on
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Speaker 1 (14:47):
That's Covino and Rich both are now vocally publicly denouncing
the team. Garrett has leaked it or somebody has that
he didn't want to play with Aaron. That's a problem. So,
and I've said this before, I think Aarons smart, he's interesting,
he's complex, and we've all got issues. But he leans
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into being enigmatic. His documentary, which by the way, he approved,
is called Enigma. He approved that that's not what quarterbacks
want to be. You can be an enigma, don't double
down on it. They don't lean into it. You're a leader.
And this is what I've said for years. When the
going gets tough, Aaron tends to distance himself from it,
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give you some sort of word salad throughout the week,
like a politician, and to sort of project that he
is above it and he'll solve it. And hey, this
stuff is tough, let me tell you how this works.
But he's not the solution to it. I'm not saying
Aaron's the only problem, but he was never the solution
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to the Jets dysfunction. It's not his person. I've said
this for years. He is a Baylor, not a baller.
He's not a foxhol guy. He's just gifted and smart
and talented and kind of interesting. And I don't care
where he stands on back scenes, I really don't. But
this Jets organization needs a culture changing coach and an
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infusion of leadership at quarterback, not just talent. But they're
trapped because he is talented. He played well until yesterday.
But great leaders don't lean into being difficult, they don't
lean into being an enigma. That's his documentary and he
approved that message, and that's my issue. This team needs
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somebody to put out fires, no word salad, step forward,
definitive opinions, put in the extra time in the offseason,
and at this point that's just not what Aaron is.
But he's the best in a bad quarterback draft class.
And Sam Darnold, I can't believe the Vikings would let
him hit the market. My guess is, get a coach.
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He's your quarterback, and here he was after It's kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Like the season he just got away from us. That
too many games got away from us.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
This game got away from us. You know, we're moving
them all well and then we just hit a wall.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And that's kind of in the season.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Every time I criticize erin, I make sure to add compliments.
I've said this with Baker Mayfield. I thought Tampa should
have signed Baker Mayfield. I thought he was a great pick,
and I think Aaron's the best option for them. But
we got like ten to fifteen years of this stuff,
and I've been on it from.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Very early on.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Is that when the going gets tough in the NFL,
and it always does, even from a homes, their offensive line,
their receiving corps, it's constantly being reworked. Once you pay
a quarterback, he tends to distance himself, be above it,
and then project that he could be the solution if
other people can step up and help him. That's not leadership,
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that's enigma. The documentary which again you tend to lean
into Jmack with.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
The news, this is the herd line news from one
New York team to the other.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Let's go to the New York Giants, who ended their
ten game losing Street cut with a rousing win over
the Colts, but in the end they kind of lost
colin they dropped from first to fourth in the draft order.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Just a stunning game, I mean, Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Colts defense looked, I mean goodness, Gracius could not stop
Drew Locke.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
They controlled this football game.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Some of it is the Colts aren't very good in
the back end. Some of it's coaching bad, tackling in
the wrong place often. So again, I think the Colts
are one of those teams. If you had Jayden Daniels
with the Colts, it would solve a lot of these issues. Yeah,
but they're not good enough at quarterbacks, so therefore it
multiplies their problem.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It's in a late scratch, sounds like he may not
even play this week. It Joe Flacco came in and
was in. But the big story is the New York
Giants in line to take Okay cam Ward or shed
or Sanders.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
They dropped the four. So the new orders on the screen.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Patriots at one, Yeah, Tennessee tightens at two, Cleveland Browns
at three, and then the.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Giants at four. Tennessee and Cleveland need quarterbacks calling.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, a lot of people are suggesting Mike Rabel and
Josh McDaniels go to New England, save Drake may Oh,
trade down that first pick or get a Travis Hunter.
But there's I can tell you everybody's freaking out in Boston.
Let me tell you something. Here's the good news. You
have your quarterback. Drake may is going to be really good.
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You may not have the coach. But for most bad
teams in this league, and there's about eight to ten
bad teams, if I said, well, you got your future
quarterback and you got the number one pick, that is
the best place you can be in as one of
the eight to ten bad teams in this league. You
have a really good quarterback and you can do whatever
you want with that number one pick. I would trade
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it down and get a boat load of picks. But
all is not lost.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I don't know about Jered Mayo.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I forgot this Saturday. The Patriots got embarrassed Nicole by
the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm sorry in New England. I mean well, but was
blowout city.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
But the week before they went to Buffalo and I
out played and arguably out coached the Bills. Remember Dan
Campbell was three and thirteen first year in Detroit and
one in six at the beginning of the second year.
So just one week ago, I thought Mayo and Drake
May outplayed and out coached Buffalo in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So Rabel and McDaniels to New England to replace.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
May That's that's what you're hearing I had I hadn't
heard that. That's sole. Here's my take, good stuff. So
Rabel has a good relationship with Robert Kraft. And because
nobody truly trusts the Bears front office and ownership or
the Jets ownership, that New England may look like a
bad job, but you have your quarterback, a non medaling owner,
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and the number one pick. So New England now look,
in my opinion right now this morning, I'd argue if
it was open, New England could be the best job
craft Drake may number one pick. You could do a
lot worse as a start over franchise.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
They don't have a lot else now none, Listen, let
me nip this whole trade in the bud, this idea
that the Patriots could just trade down Colin. I don't
see anyone trading up to number one, and the Bryce
Young trade is live. You remember they gave up DJ
Moore and future picks that there was nothing else to
remember though, Cay do that and he really just sacrificed
the future.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But Caleb Williams was considered a transformational talent. Shador Sanders
is considered a starting NFL quarterback and promising but this
is not a Trevor Lawrence or a Caleb or a
Luck where you're like, well, you're gonna give up four
number one?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, I don't think you trade up for cam Ward, right,
I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I think cam Ward probably in line to go to Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Now, I think you're right. Now, I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Becomes Cleveland and Deshaun Watson. You saw they restructured his
deal over the weekend. They left dtr in the game
yesterday when he is I mean, there's a lot of
stats to say he's one of the worst quarterbacks this
century in the NFL. Okay, where Cleveland takes your doer, yes,
has him sit for a year behind Deshaun Watson. Ye?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
But would Dion say, U uh, you're not going to Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
What is the only way if you have a horrible
quarterback contract to get out of it? Drafted? You land
a starting quarterback Denver? Oh, the Russell Wilson deal for
two years dead cap money. You're not Pam Bonis anything.
So if the Patriots don't move, I think they'll probably
take Mason Graham, the defensive tackle I would, or Travis Hunter.
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I think the Titans get a quarterback, and if I
ran Cleveland, I would take a quarterback. I don't know
that Travis Hunter fits the Mike Rabel mold of like well,
he's an unbelievably talented a one overall. Come again, I
think New England would trade out. But I don't know
if these quarterbacks are good enough to give up multiple
ones and two. No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I don't know if they are my jets. You see
lingering there at seven. We'll we'll get to them, don't worry.
The Philadelphia Eagles, Colin, how about their nice win over
the Cowboys yesterday? So I'm watching this obviously Eagles and
no sweat cover and it's the fourth quarter of a
thirty point game and.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
They're feeding bark.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, you know you're not a huge fan of that. However,
Saque became just the ninth player in NFL history to
rush for two thousand yards in a season. Here's Saque
of the accomplishment and the chase of Eric Dickerson's regular
season mark.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
To you know, reach a milestone and put myself up
there with eight other backs that I respect, and you know,
some of them I grew up watching, definitely means a lot.
If you know, his mindset is, you know, we'll go
out there and try it, and I'll go out there
and try it. But his mindset is, let's rest and
get ready for you know, this run. Then I'm off
for that too. And you know, I'm not just saying
that because a camera's in my face or mice in
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my face. I really mean that I came here to
do something special, obviously breaking a record special, but I
want to be part of I want to banner up there,
and I think we all.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Do listen, record or not. He and Christian McCaffrey. When
Christian's healthy, they're the two best backs in the league.
I mean, he just listens. I know everybody gets caught
up in records. You don't need records to validate what
a good guy this guy is, what a great player
he is, and how he's elevated everything. We don't even
like the coach, and we're not even sure if Jalen
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is dependable in the pocket in big spots, and they
had good offensive and defensive lines last year. Saquon, it's
just amazing to me. Can you imagine? It's just crazy
to me that you would let Saquon go if You're
the Giants to your arts rivals, who already are stacked.
I mean, it's not like they gave you it was
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a massive trade. It's just you walked across the street.
Uh oh, it's an all timer. It's an all time.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Here's my thing. So you watch the game and Kenny
Pickett was in for Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, thanks for Jalen Hurts missing the Fantasy football championship
that I needed badly. Anyways, So Kenny Pickett takes a
shot inside the twenty.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I think Michael Parsons in him. Kenny Pickett instantly is like, oh,
just break a rib. What the heck? Leaves the game out.
I'm just telling you, saik One Barkley a thirty one
carries column.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's a lot. That's like nineteen seventy eight NFL football.
They're not getting a buye okay, almost impossible to get right.
I mean, they like seventeen things to happen. Is he
going to really chase the record?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Let me Week eighteen?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
The two most interesting teams in the playoffs. I'm not
saying best interesting, Lamar Jackson and Baltimore. There's a ton
of pressure in Philadelphia. I mean think about this, Like
if Buffalo lost early and they won't, but if they did,
Sean McDermott heat seem of Philadelphia can't get to the
conference championship.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I think Sirianni's in trouble. I just this idea that
like regular season records mean anything. Pop quiz, who's the
regular season record for quarterback passing yards.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
In the season? Who knows? Who cares?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's baseball?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
That's off has forgotten yet baseball exactly wide receiver record.
I don't interception record. It doesn't matter. Sake one, you
had an amazing season, Go win the Super Bowl. Yeah,
this is your shot.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I didn't love it either. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
It's an Eric Dickerson record. You know, we work with Dickerson.
Nice guy. I like him. If you get the record, wonderful.
If not, no, nobody cares. Egos. Just be smart, man
and let's find wrap up Colin. With the NBA big trade.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yesterday, the Lakers moving on from d Lo Meanngelo Russell
to ship to the Brooklyn Nets again in a package
for wait for it, Dorian Finney Smith.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Oh, he's so good at Jake Milton gets some buckets.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Apparently the Nets had an offer from Memphis for a
protected one, but they preferred the Lakers three.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Second round picks.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I saw stat the Nets have sixteen second round picks
over the next seven years, one or two.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Like, okay, he made the Lakers are a better defensive
team today.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Sniper clos This is the fifth time he's been traded
in seven and a half seen though, like at that
at some point should be a wake up call to
d Low like bro, try give an effort defensively.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I just I've never been I love that line.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Me Low me Angelo, russ me Angelo Russell.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I just Golden State had him in their dynasty for
about an hour. Remember that they had him, and they're like, Noah,
it doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, because he's got talent. There's no disputing the town.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So of course the internet went and looked for JJ
reddick comments on Dorian Phinney Smith, and way back in
May of twenty twenty two, he Reddick tweeted something like
what a great player, how can you not love him?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
That night, Dorian Phinney Smith had eight three pointers. This
is a perfect street.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
He's a corner three guys.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Oh, he's perfect. Nicked to Anthony Davis yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And because Dalton Connect, your your favorite rookie, doesn't defend
when you have him on the court, you have to
have somebody that does defend at the high level, and
that's him.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Plus he hits corners to Rui Hachimoa. Bro, you better
defend her. You're gonna lose your spot. And we also
have to give Lebron a shout out. He turns forty today,
joining us at forty years of age. Lebron James, very exciting,
greatest player, and.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Happy birthday to Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Shout out to your book.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We should show the video of you hanging out with
Lebron at that cavana hanging out.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's kind of strong. I think bumping into him is
more than hanging out. We weren't shooting dice with him
or nobody was very friendly. He's always a couple of times.
He's always classy, always always nice.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I have yet to officially meet the King and congratulate
him on his amazing career.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
But he's had an amazing life, an amazing American life,
great father, everything, the kids, the people get all political,
He's had an amazing American life, and he has been
a great face of the league. He got political. People
don't like it, but folks, everybody at work in every
office in America has a political opinion. If a basketball
players does, I can be I'm fine with him, said
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Jay Mack with the News.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping the j Mack.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Is stumping for candidates every time down the hallway. I
put up with it. So I got to say this
about Joe Burrow. He can still make the playoffs, which
is insane how talented he is. And I just think
we need to say, Okay, what you're watching is what
a franchise quarterback is. Their defense is awful, twenty ninth,
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their line is thirtieth. They're the cheapest owner in the sport. Arguably,
they have major clock management issues at head coach, and
in the overtime they tried to briefly take the ball
out of his hands and just kick a chip shot
field goal, doink. That didn't work. They're twenty ninth in rushing,
O line, run game, defense, none of it. And he's
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got this team potentially in the playoffs. Denver's got a
better roster, Denver's got a real defense. He shredded it.
He shreds everybody. So this is a three and fourteen
team without Joe Burrow. And you know what it's reminding
me speaking of Lebron james fortieth birthday, it reminds me
of Lebron in Cleveland the first time, where he's there
for seven years and finally he goes to like the Olympics,
and Lebron's like, oh, this is what it's like to
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play with really good players. I remember Lebron in Cleveland,
and by the way, Burrow got to a Super Bowl
and lost. Lebron got to a Finals and got run
out of the building four straight by San Antonio, and
then Lebron finally realized ownership front office, I'm wasting my
time here, and Lebron felt bad. He eventually came back.
But I mean, folks, what Joe Burrow is doing right now?
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I think there are five quarterbacks in the NFL. Five
quarterbacks in the NFL that have separated from everybody else.
I think it's Alan Burrow, Herbert Lamar, and Patrick Mahomes
and I like a lot of other quarterbacks, but we're
not going to pay much attention to Joe Burrow. The
other four Mahomes, Lamar, Justin and Allen have support, coaching support,
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a decent on lining. Good God, justin Herbert now Harbaugh
two big time tackles. Joe Burrow's running for his life.
No run game can only win in the shootout. I mean,
at least Zach Taylor, the head coach, appreciates it.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
I don't know that anybody can stand on a field
and watch Joe Burrow and say he's not the best
player in the world. The clearest thing I can say
is I would not trade Joe Burrow for any player
in the universe, and so to me, that's MVP.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
To me, I don't want to hear that your left
tackle got hurt, or that you're on your third running back,
or your secondary's not good. Nothing around Burrow is good,
nothing run game defense. I don't think Zach Taylor's awful.
The internet disagrees with me. I think Zach Taylor's got
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some promise. I think everybody you're working for an ownership
group that just doesn't make moves, a front office that's reluctant,
reticent to take any swings. They're the opposite, essentially of
Philadelphia no swings. Sometimes Philadelphia over swings. They take none.
But what Burrow's doing is insane. I don't want to
hear about your if quarterback. Well, if McCaffrey was available.
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This guy's got nothing except two really good receivers, and
one of them won't be here next year because I
won't pay for him. This, this is what a franchise
quarterback is, not elevating what he already has, hiding what
he doesn't, which is everything.
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Speaker 3 (32:36):
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Speaker 2 (32:37):
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Speaker 1 (32:46):
Me iszoh okay. So you know, here's some great advice
somebody once gave me. Sometimes you just got to get
out of your own way. Jim Harbaugh was offered a
head coaching job by One Team, One Team. Jim Harbaugh
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is like that movie director Christopher Nolan. If you let
him direct your movie, you'll have a hit. It always
works and quickly. Jim Harbaugh wanted the Bear's job. Kevin
Warren the president, he and Jim don't get along. He
didn't get an interview. It's amazing to me. Yes, like
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Christopher Nolan, You'll have to surrender some control and increase
the budget a little, but you'll be great immediately. In fact,
he is now the first coach in the Super Bowl
era to take over two losing teams and the first
year make the playoffs. I always thought Bill Parcells was
the greatest turnaround coach. Ever, Harbaugh just surpassed him, and
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Parcells is a top five coach in my life. But
what I'm really happy about is Justin Herbert, who for
years was like the A plus student that had a
really bad teacher or the excellent employee with really bad bosses,
and then he got Jim Harbaugh and now he's putting
up numbers. I saw one this week though weekend where
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he's literally now getting into an Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady class.
Herbert has four hundred plus pass attempts and three or
fewer interceptions. It is now one of the three greatest
most efficient seasons ever for a quarterback. That's insane, And
you know it's funny about I want you to think
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about this for a second. There's a lot of things
that matter in coaching, but one of them is squeezing
every bit of juice you can out of the roster.
So when Harball won a Natty at Michigan, he only
had two five star players two five star recruits. The
Alabama team he beat had eighteen. The Georgia team that
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won the Natty the year before had fifteen.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
He had two.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
In In fact, if you look at composite recruiting rankings,
Michigan had the lowest for a national championship in forever.
And this Charger team needs another running back in the draft,
needs another tight end in the draft, needs another receiver
or two in the draft. Lad Mconkee, I love him.
He's more of a one a two, not a one.
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They're doing it. They're dropping forty this weekend, and they're
kind of in an offensive rebuild. They've got good offensive
tackles and could mostly use help everywhere else on offense,
an interior alignment, another running back, another tight end, and
a couple of receivers. Defense is fine, not great, but fine.
He's made it great. But no coach ever has ever
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squeezed more juice out of his roster, whether it's the Niners, Stanford, Michigan,
or here with the Chargers. And here's Justin Herbert on
why the team loves him. He's been everything.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
You know, those guys in that Lockerham respect him so
much and they just want to make right by him
and make him proud. You know, the way he cares
about you know, this team, all the individuals as well.
He's a competitor and he wants to win no matter
what it is. And it definitely shows. And it's the
way that everyone fights for him, wants to play for him,
and respects him.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It is interesting, though everybody knows you hire jim Harbaugh
college or pro. In fact, Jimmy Johnson to me, is
the only coach in the history of American football that
was an A plus plus college coach and an A
plus plus NFL coach. Harbaugh's the other one. I don't
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need a Super Bowl to prove it, you know what
I mean. Like we all know Harball is great. But
I mean nothing against Belichick, who stayed in New England
forever with Brady, and nothing against sab a new state
in Bama forever. But to me, it's always been a
much bigger lift. Urban Meyer parcels Harbaugh to go to
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new places and immediately take bad to a playoff team.
And this is in the AFC This is in the
division with Mahomes twice a year. You're not doing this
in the NFC South or the AFC South. So right now,
the AFC playoff picture, Chiefs, Bills, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Chargers
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in Cincinnati's hanging on by a thread. Baltimore's got a
much better roster than Cincinnati, and bo Nix is fine.
It's funny bow Nicks was twenty four to thirty one
and played fine. Next to Burrow, he just looked like
a nothing. Burger right tells you how great Joe Burrow is.
So Harball's just it's I say this, I root for
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every quarterback to make it. I don't root against any
of these kids, but especially It's funny if you watch
Justin Herbert's career. So he was at Oregon, but because
they didn't have good backups, Mario Christaball didn't let him
run until the Rose Bowl and then everybody went, oh
my god, Justin Herbert. J. McK and I have talked
about this. You watch the Rose Bowl against Wisconsin and
you're like, oh my god, this guy can run too.
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And here and with the Chargers. This is why we
implore Dean Spanos just spend whatever it costs to get
horrid buff It costs twenty million a year. Whatever you do,
not want to go to bed at night having never
gotten Justin Herbert a great coach. He is just an
all time kid and I just couldn't be happier for him. Now, now,
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how about this j Mac of all the playoff teams,
because I do believe the Chargers have like four needs
on offense alone. I like their kicking, I like their defense,
I like their tackles and Herbert. Are they the best
team in the playoffs that can't win the Super Bowl? Wait?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Why can't they win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
They can, but it's Buffalo Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Probably not to go.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
They probably have the fifth best roster of the seven
playoff teams in the AFC, So I'll not Philadelphia or
Detroit roster.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Right, I'll agree with you that the top three in
the AFC are are stacked. However, the path to the
Super Bowl this year, I think it's gonna matter more
than ever. Yeah, because there's so many bad teams in
the league that aren't in the playoffs, and I feel
like every team is kind of like if the Bengals
get in, Let's say the Bengals are seven.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Can you imagine a Buffalo first weekend? Well, first of all,
you're terrified if you're Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Oh my man.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Can you imagine Burrow goes to Buffalo first weekend and
Cincinnati's got.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Nor she already won there once in the playoffs. I
think it was twenty seven to ten. Was a final,
and so how tight would Buffalo be? Well, that's not
great for Buffalo. But I also don't think Kansas City
is indestructible.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I know fifteen and.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
One and blah blah blah will say this ie the
rest coming up. I said this before the year. I
think we both said it. The Chargers are the Chiefs,
a plus coaching, quarterback, really nice defensive pieces, get a rush,
got a great player in the secondary. Both can use
a little help skill people. It's kind of a work
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in progress. I think the Chargers are a slightly less version.
And by the way, both great head coaches, both great
defensive coordinators, great coaches. Both need more weapons. It's a
work in progress. The Chargers had to play the Chiefs again.
They match up very well with Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Look at this, I didn't even realize if Pittsburgh's sliding
so much so. If the Bengals beat the Steelers, Pittsburgh's
ten and seven. If the Chargers win their final game,
they would be eleven and six. They would then leap
frog Pittsburgh to five and then play Houston.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I'd rather play Houston than Baltimore, wouldn't you?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh? Yes, Houston could get routed in the first guy,
I don't even know what they are Colin Wright, Colin wrong,
first hour flies by. This is the best part of
the season.
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We got a lot to talk about. Colin Wright, Colin Raw,
plenty of boat top of next hour. Matt Hasselbeck, Hu'soha's money,
He'll bring the bag. Jmack. I don't know if you noticed,
but Sam Donald, next weekend we'll be playing for the
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number one see in the NFC. Oh, by the way,
once again, slide in Sam Darnald. Why is it he
in the MVP Conversation? Am I crazy? He leads in
like every category in the MVP co edition. Your ric
rock Perdy was in it last year.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Rydnoald's like a carbon copy of rock Perdy.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's amazing He's been slided for six years. Let's start
with this. For the last six years, I've been mocked, ridiculed,
laughed at, and it hurt my feelings. And I still
believed Sam Donald's got a little bit of Andrew Luck. Tough, relentless,
like a linebacker playing quarterback, coachable, throws a bad pick,
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follows it up with a great pass. What you're seeing
is the Andrew Luck thing, and they're asking him to
make big boy throws. He leads the NFL sixty completions
over twenty plus yards. Those are Brady and Mahome throws.
No dink and dunk here, seventy percent completion rate, twenty
six t d He's three picks in the red zone.
He's the league's most efficient quarterback now and in the
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second half of the last seven games, one thousand yards
and a passer rating of one fourteen. Why is he
not in the MVP discussion? Hello, look at all the numbers,
because you've already disqualified him. You made up your mind,
and that's what we do in the media. You have
decided it's a cute story. But no, no, no, no, no,
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this roster isn't great. There's no bot Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold.
Look at the numbers? Who do you trust more in
a playoff game? Are you sure it's Lamar? And I
love Lamar? But what I said years ago, I said,
there's Samandrew Luck here. All you did just took shots.
Here's the thing. When you watch him play, you know what,
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you notice how much his coach. His coach trusts him,
And don't worry about being liked in life. It's who
likes you. And everybody in America is bailing on Sam Donald.
You know who didn't. Kyle Shanahan's like, I think he's good,
Kevin O'Connell McVeigh, Yeah, I think he's really good. Yeah,
I'm gonna trust those guys. Yeah. A lot of defensive
core ordinators who are anti Riss didn't like him. And
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by the way, he'll give you an ugly pick, So
does Mahomes, so does Josh Allen, sod is Justin Herbert.
But after his pick yesterday nine for twelve hundred and
thirty four passer rating, that is Andrew Luck. I don't
think he's his gifted as Andrew Luck. I never have
I said it. Then there's some Andrew Luck a little
far of here. But what you're seeing now, look at
what they ask him to do. Any time you watch
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a game, when you watch the offense, watch what a
coaching staff allows the quarterback to do. In fact, my
criticism of Minnesota yesterday was when they let in the
second half. I was like, Kevin, turn the governor down,
throttle it down. You don't have to have you don't
have to have him throwing in the teeth of Green
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Bay's pass rushing defense. But that's how much confidence they have.
And this is not the best the roster will be.
They've got cap space. They've got a lot of really
really good young players, as Sam Darnold, hero thirty three
of forty three should be in the MVP conversation. Show
you a picture of him here going into the locker room.
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They know what they have in Minnesota. What they have
is an MVP level quarterback. It's not just a great
story that was September and October and then in November.
Do we have a great player now? It's like, do
we have the MVP. You can't let him go. His
contract now is fifty. It's not a forty. It's a
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fifty on the market. Here's Sam after a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Of water, bottles, a lot of water.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It was just mayhem. I think I blacked out. You know,
when Aaron Jones grabbed me and lifted me up. I
didn't know what to do with my hands in that situation,
so Ricky Bobby style. So it was Yeah, it was
an interesting moment, but a fun moment man, to be
embraced by your teammates like that.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Sam has played so well for three months straight. You know,
I always do the Super Bowl bubble about once a month,
every five weeks. Here's my super Bowl bubble. Green Bay's out,
Minnesota is in. I think the Rams, the Packers, and
the Chargers are still a year away. Green Bays disappointed
me in the last few weeks. Can't beat Minnesota or Detroit.
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I'll put Buffalo, Kansas City, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Detroit. And Darnald
has been good enough. This isn't me being a fanboy.
Donald has been so absolutely spectacular. They lost their left
tackle earlier this year. Arguably the first or second best
left tackle has he lost. Since it's not like this
is a great defense. Green Bay's got better personnel, so
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it's half the league. Where do you go, Sammy? One
person in America did not bail on you. Anyway. Let's
go to Jaden Daniels. So here's of the many reasons
the NFL is king. This could be number one. It's
the League of hope. Washington was a tire fire because
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of the worst owner, arguably in professional sports today, and
so they just cleaned out the building. They sold the
team new GM and I said, you know what, Snyder
had such a stench around him. I think they're going
to make the playoffs. And I think Jaden's going to
be really good. I didn't think he was going to
be this. I said, you know, he'll be like Lamar
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Jackson light. I'm not sure if it's light. This kid's insane.
And in the NFL, if you get the quarterback right,
everything else falls into place. This is not a great roster.
But even their defense last year worse than the league
total defense. Now it's ten. Why is that? Because their
defense plays with a lead. A great quarterback is makeup
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on a blemish. It's an eraser. Everybody's got issues. A
great quarterback erases them, and an average quarterback. What Indianapolis
has multiplies them. And this old line's not great, but
now it's formidable. The defense has issues on the back end,
but when you play with the lead, defensive line can
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pin their ears back. Every unit now, I mean they
didn't make that many personnel changes, but every unit looks better.
And I mean, like yesterday is a prime example of
what a great player can do. I thought the Atlanta
Falcons finally getting a pass rush Matthew Judhon. I thought
they had some good coverage. It didn't matter. As good
as Pennix was, he can't do this. You can add
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twenty five to thirty five percent to a playbook because
Jayden Daniels can run, and I love Pennix, but he
looked limited in the sand. He's excellent compared to Jayden Daniels. So,
and what's really remarkable, it's not just when you're good.
The first thing we noticed about Patrick Malmes and you
noticed that I noticed this. By year two he was
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actually almost better trailing in games. A lot of quarterbacks
with the lead, it's second and three. You got good protection,
Cooper Rush can make plays. You trail by two touchdowns
end of the third, they know you've got to throw.
You got a banged up offensive line. That was the
first sign with Mahomes. Oh wait, bro this is different.
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He may be the best come from behind quarterback not
named John Hallway ever Jayden Daniels in the fourth quarter
in overtime this year. This again, this is an okay
offensive line. He's got one weapon, has the highest passer
rating in the league. That is insane. And remember back
in camp when generally when you get a rookie quarterback,
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like in Chicago with Caleb Williams, or Denver with Drake
may or New Denver with Bownicks, or New England with
Drake Maye, remember what the coaches always doing. Well, he's
got a long way to go. Let's slow down, let's
pump the brakes. Cliff Kingsbury and Dan Quinn every time
you put a mic in front of them, they were like,
hoo hoo hoo. This guy's unbelievable. You're like, Okay, this
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guy's got to be good. Coaches never do that. Kingsbury's
been in the league. Dan Quinn's been in the league forever.
Dan Quinn during the preseason, this kid's unbelievable. You're like,
what are you doing? Doesn't matter, kid can handle it.
I mean, I just I love this kid. No ego
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loves his teammates. A couple drops yesterday by his receivers.
How many penalties did Washington have? You're pulling your hair out,
and he's just like, all right, another play. No bad
body language. You see that occasionally from a quarterback in
New York. No pointing fingers. He's a foxhole guy going
gets tough. The kid just head down, no finger pointing.
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Zach Ertz, a veteran tight end, noticed it in camp.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
It comes down to having a really good quarterback in
this see if you want to be a good team.
And from the moment I got here, seeing Jaden out there,
I continually said, you know, this guy isn't someone that's
gonna be good. He's good now. He's the most mature
rookie I've ever been around. He approaches the game, he
loves to learn, and so he just he exudes such
a quiet confidence. He's not out there a raw, raw guy.
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But we all know how good he is and how
much confident we have in him, and so he doesn't
need to say anything.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Nobody has delivered in the DC area on this level
of promise in years. This is a candidate we can
all get behind a bi partisan quarterback. Yes, we're all
in on Jaden Daniels, and he and I both approved
this message. This kid is magic. You're watching magic. I'm
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not even sure if he's Lamar Jackson light. It's like
I see all the same qualities. I mean, I'm watching
Penix last night, and I think Pennix is going to
be exceptional, and Jadeen Daniels shrinks him. I mean, that's
how good this kid is and all the boxes. No ego, selfless, athletic, accurate,
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hard working foxhole guy j Mack. I grew up in Washington, DC.
They used to have a thirty year wait list on
season tickets, and then an owner came in and ruined it.
All the goodwill. That reservoir of goodwill lost it. You
can walk up and buy a ticket to any game.
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Good luck getting season tickets going forward with the Commanders.
This kid is Broadway.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, him and Cliff Kingsbury working some magic in Washington.
That offense unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I mean, listen, I thought you were gonna.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Go the opposite way and take some shots at Rahee
Morris for botching that game.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I've come to terms with coaches in the NFL. Is
anybody now that Belichick is retired. Is anybody good with
clock management? Zach Taylor drove me nuts. Oh gosh, don't
start Raheem Morris drove me nuts. But I've come to
the conclusion that nobody's great at it.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Does Bradie moorees think you can take time outs home,
like after the game, you can just bring them home.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
We both had Atlanta, so it was, uh, just.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I know, I take a pair. I like you being positive.
Jade Daniels was exceptional. Oh the kids just he's spectaclic
We need.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You need to do a new top ten quarterback list.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
He's how's he not? You know, it's one of these things, well,
you know how sometimes people say, hey, you're you're confirmation bias. Yeah,
I thought he was going to be really good, or
it's recency bias. Folks. When you get to the end
of an NFL season and Sam Darnold's been great for
fourteen weeks or thirteen of the seventeen, that's not really
recency bias. He's having a great year. And when you
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watch Jaden Daniels, I can argue his best month was September.
Remember in September, We're like, whoa, Okay, this can't last
and then he had your usual problem, and now he's
restarted it in the last three to four weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
That rib injury seems like he's past that. There was
the hic up the light. He does take some shots.
He did take a big shot.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
At the goal line. Oh yeah, one hundred and twenty
seven yards on the ground line. I mean they locked
up McLaurin right.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
He had one catch for five yards and Jaye Daniel's like, okay,
I'll just do this my sushi.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Atlanta should have won that game and controlled big portions.
The only reason they didn't is Jaden Daniels. I mean,
Atlanta controlled the first half. Atlanta should have called timeouts
and gotten the field goal. Jaden Daniels is the only
reason you win. Again. A great quarterback is an eraser.
Every team has issues. An average quarterback is a multiplier.
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Little things become big pains, and that you know what,
this kid just erased a really bad first half where
Atlanta controlled it. Uh, don't forget Colin Wright, colinra on
top of Next Hour.
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Speaker 1 (14:23):
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Speaker 1 (14:47):
That's Covino and Rich both are now vocally publicly denouncing
the team. Garrett has leaked it or somebody has that
he didn't want to play with Aaron. That's a problem. So,
and I've said this before, I think Aarons smart, he's interesting,
he's complex, and we've all got issues. But he leans
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into being enigmatic. His documentary, which by the way, he approved,
is called Enigma. He approved that that's not what quarterbacks
want to be. You can be an enigma, don't double
down on it. They don't lean into it. You're a leader.
And this is what I've said for years. When the
going gets tough, Aaron tends to distance himself from it,
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give you some sort of word salad throughout the week,
like a politician, and to sort of project that he
is above it and he'll solve it. And hey, this
stuff is tough, let me tell you how this works.
But he's not the solution to it. I'm not saying
Aaron's the only problem, but he was never the solution
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to the Jets dysfunction. It's not his person. I've said
this for years. He is a Baylor, not a baller.
He's not a foxhol guy. He's just gifted and smart
and talented and kind of interesting. And I don't care
where he stands on back scenes, I really don't. But
this Jets organization needs a culture changing coach and an
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infusion of leadership at quarterback, not just talent. But they're
trapped because he is talented. He played well until yesterday.
But great leaders don't lean into being difficult, they don't
lean into being an enigma. That's his documentary and he
approved that message, and that's my issue. This team needs
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somebody to put out fires, no word salad, step forward,
definitive opinions, put in the extra time in the offseason,
and at this point that's just not what Aaron is.
But he's the best in a bad quarterback draft class.
And Sam Darnold, I can't believe the Vikings would let
him hit the market. My guess is, get a coach.
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He's your quarterback, and here he was after It's kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Like the season he just got away from us. That
too many games got away from us.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
This game got away from us. You know, we're moving
them all well and then we just hit a wall.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And that's kind of in the season.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Every time I criticize erin, I make sure to add compliments.
I've said this with Baker Mayfield. I thought Tampa should
have signed Baker Mayfield. I thought he was a great pick,
and I think Aaron's the best option for them. But
we got like ten to fifteen years of this stuff,
and I've been on it from.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Very early on.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Is that when the going gets tough in the NFL,
and it always does, even from a homes, their offensive line,
their receiving corps, it's constantly being reworked. Once you pay
a quarterback, he tends to distance himself, be above it,
and then project that he could be the solution if
other people can step up and help him. That's not leadership,
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that's enigma. The documentary which again you tend to lean
into Jmack with.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
The news, this is the herd line news from one
New York team to the other.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Let's go to the New York Giants, who ended their
ten game losing Street cut with a rousing win over
the Colts, but in the end they kind of lost
colin they dropped from first to fourth in the draft order.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Just a stunning game, I mean, Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Colts defense looked, I mean goodness, Gracius could not stop
Drew Locke.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
They controlled this football game.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Some of it is the Colts aren't very good in
the back end. Some of it's coaching bad, tackling in
the wrong place often. So again, I think the Colts
are one of those teams. If you had Jayden Daniels
with the Colts, it would solve a lot of these issues. Yeah,
but they're not good enough at quarterbacks, so therefore it
multiplies their problem.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It's in a late scratch, sounds like he may not
even play this week. It Joe Flacco came in and
was in. But the big story is the New York
Giants in line to take Okay cam Ward or shed
or Sanders.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
They dropped the four. So the new orders on the screen.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Patriots at one, Yeah, Tennessee tightens at two, Cleveland Browns
at three, and then the.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Giants at four. Tennessee and Cleveland need quarterbacks calling.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, a lot of people are suggesting Mike Rabel and
Josh McDaniels go to New England, save Drake may Oh,
trade down that first pick or get a Travis Hunter.
But there's I can tell you everybody's freaking out in Boston.
Let me tell you something. Here's the good news. You
have your quarterback. Drake may is going to be really good.
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You may not have the coach. But for most bad
teams in this league, and there's about eight to ten
bad teams, if I said, well, you got your future
quarterback and you got the number one pick, that is
the best place you can be in as one of
the eight to ten bad teams in this league. You
have a really good quarterback and you can do whatever
you want with that number one pick. I would trade
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it down and get a boat load of picks. But
all is not lost.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I don't know about Jered Mayo.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I forgot this Saturday. The Patriots got embarrassed Nicole by
the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm sorry in New England. I mean well, but was
blowout city.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
But the week before they went to Buffalo and I
out played and arguably out coached the Bills. Remember Dan
Campbell was three and thirteen first year in Detroit and
one in six at the beginning of the second year.
So just one week ago, I thought Mayo and Drake
May outplayed and out coached Buffalo in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So Rabel and McDaniels to New England to replace.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
May That's that's what you're hearing I had I hadn't
heard that. That's sole. Here's my take, good stuff. So
Rabel has a good relationship with Robert Kraft. And because
nobody truly trusts the Bears front office and ownership or
the Jets ownership, that New England may look like a
bad job, but you have your quarterback, a non medaling owner,
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and the number one pick. So New England now look,
in my opinion right now this morning, I'd argue if
it was open, New England could be the best job
craft Drake may number one pick. You could do a
lot worse as a start over franchise.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
They don't have a lot else now none, Listen, let
me nip this whole trade in the bud, this idea
that the Patriots could just trade down Colin. I don't
see anyone trading up to number one, and the Bryce
Young trade is live. You remember they gave up DJ
Moore and future picks that there was nothing else to
remember though, Cay do that and he really just sacrificed
the future.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But Caleb Williams was considered a transformational talent. Shador Sanders
is considered a starting NFL quarterback and promising but this
is not a Trevor Lawrence or a Caleb or a
Luck where you're like, well, you're gonna give up four
number one?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, I don't think you trade up for cam Ward, right,
I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I think cam Ward probably in line to go to Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Now, I think you're right. Now, I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Becomes Cleveland and Deshaun Watson. You saw they restructured his
deal over the weekend. They left dtr in the game
yesterday when he is I mean, there's a lot of
stats to say he's one of the worst quarterbacks this
century in the NFL. Okay, where Cleveland takes your doer, yes,
has him sit for a year behind Deshaun Watson. Ye?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
But would Dion say, U uh, you're not going to Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
What is the only way if you have a horrible
quarterback contract to get out of it? Drafted? You land
a starting quarterback Denver? Oh, the Russell Wilson deal for
two years dead cap money. You're not Pam Bonis anything.
So if the Patriots don't move, I think they'll probably
take Mason Graham, the defensive tackle I would, or Travis Hunter.
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I think the Titans get a quarterback, and if I
ran Cleveland, I would take a quarterback. I don't know
that Travis Hunter fits the Mike Rabel mold of like well,
he's an unbelievably talented a one overall. Come again, I
think New England would trade out. But I don't know
if these quarterbacks are good enough to give up multiple
ones and two. No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I don't know if they are my jets. You see
lingering there at seven. We'll we'll get to them, don't worry.
The Philadelphia Eagles, Colin, how about their nice win over
the Cowboys yesterday? So I'm watching this obviously Eagles and
no sweat cover and it's the fourth quarter of a
thirty point game and.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
They're feeding bark.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, you know you're not a huge fan of that. However,
Saque became just the ninth player in NFL history to
rush for two thousand yards in a season. Here's Saque
of the accomplishment and the chase of Eric Dickerson's regular
season mark.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
To you know, reach a milestone and put myself up
there with eight other backs that I respect, and you know,
some of them I grew up watching, definitely means a lot.
If you know, his mindset is, you know, we'll go
out there and try it, and I'll go out there
and try it. But his mindset is, let's rest and
get ready for you know, this run. Then I'm off
for that too. And you know, I'm not just saying
that because a camera's in my face or mice in
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my face. I really mean that I came here to
do something special, obviously breaking a record special, but I
want to be part of I want to banner up there,
and I think we all.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Do listen, record or not. He and Christian McCaffrey. When
Christian's healthy, they're the two best backs in the league.
I mean, he just listens. I know everybody gets caught
up in records. You don't need records to validate what
a good guy this guy is, what a great player
he is, and how he's elevated everything. We don't even
like the coach, and we're not even sure if Jalen
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is dependable in the pocket in big spots, and they
had good offensive and defensive lines last year. Saquon, it's
just amazing to me. Can you imagine? It's just crazy
to me that you would let Saquon go if You're
the Giants to your arts rivals, who already are stacked.
I mean, it's not like they gave you it was
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a massive trade. It's just you walked across the street.
Uh oh, it's an all timer. It's an all time.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Here's my thing. So you watch the game and Kenny
Pickett was in for Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, thanks for Jalen Hurts missing the Fantasy football championship
that I needed badly. Anyways, So Kenny Pickett takes a
shot inside the twenty.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I think Michael Parsons in him. Kenny Pickett instantly is like, oh,
just break a rib. What the heck? Leaves the game out.
I'm just telling you, saik One Barkley a thirty one
carries column.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's a lot. That's like nineteen seventy eight NFL football.
They're not getting a buye okay, almost impossible to get right.
I mean, they like seventeen things to happen. Is he
going to really chase the record?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Let me Week eighteen?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
The two most interesting teams in the playoffs. I'm not
saying best interesting, Lamar Jackson and Baltimore. There's a ton
of pressure in Philadelphia. I mean think about this, Like
if Buffalo lost early and they won't, but if they did,
Sean McDermott heat seem of Philadelphia can't get to the
conference championship.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I think Sirianni's in trouble. I just this idea that
like regular season records mean anything. Pop quiz, who's the
regular season record for quarterback passing yards.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
In the season? Who knows? Who cares?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's baseball?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
That's off has forgotten yet baseball exactly wide receiver record.
I don't interception record. It doesn't matter. Sake one, you
had an amazing season, Go win the Super Bowl. Yeah,
this is your shot.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I didn't love it either. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
It's an Eric Dickerson record. You know, we work with Dickerson.
Nice guy. I like him. If you get the record, wonderful.
If not, no, nobody cares. Egos. Just be smart, man
and let's find wrap up Colin. With the NBA big trade.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yesterday, the Lakers moving on from d Lo Meanngelo Russell
to ship to the Brooklyn Nets again in a package
for wait for it, Dorian Finney Smith.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Oh, he's so good at Jake Milton gets some buckets.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Apparently the Nets had an offer from Memphis for a
protected one, but they preferred the Lakers three.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Second round picks.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I saw stat the Nets have sixteen second round picks
over the next seven years, one or two.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Like, okay, he made the Lakers are a better defensive
team today.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Sniper clos This is the fifth time he's been traded
in seven and a half seen though, like at that
at some point should be a wake up call to
d Low like bro, try give an effort defensively.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I just I've never been I love that line.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Me Low me Angelo, russ me Angelo Russell.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I just Golden State had him in their dynasty for
about an hour. Remember that they had him, and they're like, Noah,
it doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, because he's got talent. There's no disputing the town.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So of course the internet went and looked for JJ
reddick comments on Dorian Phinney Smith, and way back in
May of twenty twenty two, he Reddick tweeted something like
what a great player, how can you not love him?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
That night, Dorian Phinney Smith had eight three pointers. This
is a perfect street.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
He's a corner three guys.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Oh, he's perfect. Nicked to Anthony Davis yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And because Dalton Connect, your your favorite rookie, doesn't defend
when you have him on the court, you have to
have somebody that does defend at the high level, and
that's him.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Plus he hits corners to Rui Hachimoa. Bro, you better
defend her. You're gonna lose your spot. And we also
have to give Lebron a shout out. He turns forty today,
joining us at forty years of age. Lebron James, very exciting,
greatest player, and.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Happy birthday to Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Shout out to your book.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We should show the video of you hanging out with
Lebron at that cavana hanging out.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's kind of strong. I think bumping into him is
more than hanging out. We weren't shooting dice with him
or nobody was very friendly. He's always a couple of times.
He's always classy, always always nice.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I have yet to officially meet the King and congratulate
him on his amazing career.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
But he's had an amazing life, an amazing American life,
great father, everything, the kids, the people get all political,
He's had an amazing American life, and he has been
a great face of the league. He got political. People
don't like it, but folks, everybody at work in every
office in America has a political opinion. If a basketball
players does, I can be I'm fine with him, said
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Jay Mack with the News.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping the j Mack.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Is stumping for candidates every time down the hallway. I
put up with it. So I got to say this
about Joe Burrow. He can still make the playoffs, which
is insane how talented he is. And I just think
we need to say, Okay, what you're watching is what
a franchise quarterback is. Their defense is awful, twenty ninth,
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their line is thirtieth. They're the cheapest owner in the sport. Arguably,
they have major clock management issues at head coach, and
in the overtime they tried to briefly take the ball
out of his hands and just kick a chip shot
field goal, doink. That didn't work. They're twenty ninth in rushing,
O line, run game, defense, none of it. And he's
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got this team potentially in the playoffs. Denver's got a
better roster, Denver's got a real defense. He shredded it.
He shreds everybody. So this is a three and fourteen
team without Joe Burrow. And you know what it's reminding
me speaking of Lebron james fortieth birthday, it reminds me
of Lebron in Cleveland the first time, where he's there
for seven years and finally he goes to like the Olympics,
and Lebron's like, oh, this is what it's like to
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play with really good players. I remember Lebron in Cleveland,
and by the way, Burrow got to a Super Bowl
and lost. Lebron got to a Finals and got run
out of the building four straight by San Antonio, and
then Lebron finally realized ownership front office, I'm wasting my
time here, and Lebron felt bad. He eventually came back.
But I mean, folks, what Joe Burrow is doing right now?
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I think there are five quarterbacks in the NFL. Five
quarterbacks in the NFL that have separated from everybody else.
I think it's Alan Burrow, Herbert Lamar, and Patrick Mahomes
and I like a lot of other quarterbacks, but we're
not going to pay much attention to Joe Burrow. The
other four Mahomes, Lamar, Justin and Allen have support, coaching support,
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a decent on lining. Good God, justin Herbert now Harbaugh
two big time tackles. Joe Burrow's running for his life.
No run game can only win in the shootout. I mean,
at least Zach Taylor, the head coach, appreciates it.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
I don't know that anybody can stand on a field
and watch Joe Burrow and say he's not the best
player in the world. The clearest thing I can say
is I would not trade Joe Burrow for any player
in the universe, and so to me, that's MVP.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
To me, I don't want to hear that your left
tackle got hurt, or that you're on your third running back,
or your secondary's not good. Nothing around Burrow is good,
nothing run game defense. I don't think Zach Taylor's awful.
The internet disagrees with me. I think Zach Taylor's got
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some promise. I think everybody you're working for an ownership
group that just doesn't make moves, a front office that's reluctant,
reticent to take any swings. They're the opposite, essentially of
Philadelphia no swings. Sometimes Philadelphia over swings. They take none.
But what Burrow's doing is insane. I don't want to
hear about your if quarterback. Well, if McCaffrey was available.
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This guy's got nothing except two really good receivers, and
one of them won't be here next year because I
won't pay for him. This, this is what a franchise
quarterback is, not elevating what he already has, hiding what
he doesn't, which is everything.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
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Speaker 3 (32:36):
This week.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Fox College Hoops Friday features eighteenth rank Michigan State taking
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Speaker 1 (32:46):
Me iszoh okay. So you know, here's some great advice
somebody once gave me. Sometimes you just got to get
out of your own way. Jim Harbaugh was offered a
head coaching job by One Team, One Team. Jim Harbaugh
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is like that movie director Christopher Nolan. If you let
him direct your movie, you'll have a hit. It always
works and quickly. Jim Harbaugh wanted the Bear's job. Kevin
Warren the president, he and Jim don't get along. He
didn't get an interview. It's amazing to me. Yes, like
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Christopher Nolan, You'll have to surrender some control and increase
the budget a little, but you'll be great immediately. In fact,
he is now the first coach in the Super Bowl
era to take over two losing teams and the first
year make the playoffs. I always thought Bill Parcells was
the greatest turnaround coach. Ever, Harbaugh just surpassed him, and
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Parcells is a top five coach in my life. But
what I'm really happy about is Justin Herbert, who for
years was like the A plus student that had a
really bad teacher or the excellent employee with really bad bosses,
and then he got Jim Harbaugh and now he's putting
up numbers. I saw one this week though weekend where
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he's literally now getting into an Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady class.
Herbert has four hundred plus pass attempts and three or
fewer interceptions. It is now one of the three greatest
most efficient seasons ever for a quarterback. That's insane, And
you know it's funny about I want you to think
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about this for a second. There's a lot of things
that matter in coaching, but one of them is squeezing
every bit of juice you can out of the roster.
So when Harball won a Natty at Michigan, he only
had two five star players two five star recruits. The
Alabama team he beat had eighteen. The Georgia team that
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won the Natty the year before had fifteen.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
He had two.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
In In fact, if you look at composite recruiting rankings,
Michigan had the lowest for a national championship in forever.
And this Charger team needs another running back in the draft,
needs another tight end in the draft, needs another receiver
or two in the draft. Lad Mconkee, I love him.
He's more of a one a two, not a one.
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They're doing it. They're dropping forty this weekend, and they're
kind of in an offensive rebuild. They've got good offensive
tackles and could mostly use help everywhere else on offense,
an interior alignment, another running back, another tight end, and
a couple of receivers. Defense is fine, not great, but fine.
He's made it great. But no coach ever has ever
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squeezed more juice out of his roster, whether it's the Niners, Stanford, Michigan,
or here with the Chargers. And here's Justin Herbert on
why the team loves him. He's been everything.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
You know, those guys in that Lockerham respect him so
much and they just want to make right by him
and make him proud. You know, the way he cares
about you know, this team, all the individuals as well.
He's a competitor and he wants to win no matter
what it is. And it definitely shows. And it's the
way that everyone fights for him, wants to play for him,
and respects him.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It is interesting, though everybody knows you hire jim Harbaugh
college or pro. In fact, Jimmy Johnson to me, is
the only coach in the history of American football that
was an A plus plus college coach and an A
plus plus NFL coach. Harbaugh's the other one. I don't
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need a Super Bowl to prove it, you know what
I mean. Like we all know Harball is great. But
I mean nothing against Belichick, who stayed in New England
forever with Brady, and nothing against sab a new state
in Bama forever. But to me, it's always been a
much bigger lift. Urban Meyer parcels Harbaugh to go to
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new places and immediately take bad to a playoff team.
And this is in the AFC This is in the
division with Mahomes twice a year. You're not doing this
in the NFC South or the AFC South. So right now,
the AFC playoff picture, Chiefs, Bills, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Chargers
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in Cincinnati's hanging on by a thread. Baltimore's got a
much better roster than Cincinnati, and bo Nix is fine.
It's funny bow Nicks was twenty four to thirty one
and played fine. Next to Burrow, he just looked like
a nothing. Burger right tells you how great Joe Burrow is.
So Harball's just it's I say this, I root for
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every quarterback to make it. I don't root against any
of these kids, but especially It's funny if you watch
Justin Herbert's career. So he was at Oregon, but because
they didn't have good backups, Mario Christaball didn't let him
run until the Rose Bowl and then everybody went, oh
my god, Justin Herbert. J. McK and I have talked
about this. You watch the Rose Bowl against Wisconsin and
you're like, oh my god, this guy can run too.
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And here and with the Chargers. This is why we
implore Dean Spanos just spend whatever it costs to get
horrid buff It costs twenty million a year. Whatever you do,
not want to go to bed at night having never
gotten Justin Herbert a great coach. He is just an
all time kid and I just couldn't be happier for him. Now, now,
(38:32):
how about this j Mac of all the playoff teams,
because I do believe the Chargers have like four needs
on offense alone. I like their kicking, I like their defense,
I like their tackles and Herbert. Are they the best
team in the playoffs that can't win the Super Bowl? Wait?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Why can't they win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
They can, but it's Buffalo Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Probably not to go.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
They probably have the fifth best roster of the seven
playoff teams in the AFC, So I'll not Philadelphia or
Detroit roster.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Right, I'll agree with you that the top three in
the AFC are are stacked. However, the path to the
Super Bowl this year, I think it's gonna matter more
than ever. Yeah, because there's so many bad teams in
the league that aren't in the playoffs, and I feel
like every team is kind of like if the Bengals
get in, Let's say the Bengals are seven.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Can you imagine a Buffalo first weekend? Well, first of all,
you're terrified if you're Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Oh my man.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Can you imagine Burrow goes to Buffalo first weekend and
Cincinnati's got.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Nor she already won there once in the playoffs. I
think it was twenty seven to ten. Was a final,
and so how tight would Buffalo be? Well, that's not
great for Buffalo. But I also don't think Kansas City
is indestructible.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I know fifteen and.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
One and blah blah blah will say this ie the
rest coming up. I said this before the year. I
think we both said it. The Chargers are the Chiefs,
a plus coaching, quarterback, really nice defensive pieces, get a rush,
got a great player in the secondary. Both can use
a little help skill people. It's kind of a work
(40:09):
in progress. I think the Chargers are a slightly less version.
And by the way, both great head coaches, both great
defensive coordinators, great coaches. Both need more weapons. It's a
work in progress. The Chargers had to play the Chiefs again.
They match up very well with Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Look at this, I didn't even realize if Pittsburgh's sliding
so much so. If the Bengals beat the Steelers, Pittsburgh's
ten and seven. If the Chargers win their final game,
they would be eleven and six. They would then leap
frog Pittsburgh to five and then play Houston.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I'd rather play Houston than Baltimore, wouldn't you?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh? Yes, Houston could get routed in the first guy,
I don't even know what they are Colin Wright, Colin wrong,
first hour flies by. This is the best part of
the season.
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