December 22, 2023 • 41 mins
In this hour of The Herd, after exceeding 2023's expectations, Colin reflects on the brilliance of the Rams' Sean McVay as a scout, talent developer and game-planning coach. Plus, when considering the Los Angeles Dodgers' new pitcher, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, along with acquiring Shohei Ohtani—the Dodgers have inked one-billion dollars in deals. Teams spending money and going after multiple high-profile players is not bad for baseball. Colin notes historical instances of MLB teams spending a ton of cash on players. Also, comparing and contrasting the mortal flaws of the Dallas Cowboys and the Miami Dolphins. Finally, Michael Irvin from "Undisputed" stops by to chat about the toughness and size of Buffalo's Josh Allen, the Rams over-delivering (and the emergence of Puka Nacua), and how uneven the Dallas Cowboys play at home vs. on the road.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Fox Sports Radio. All right, here we go. It is
a Friday, and there is so much to celebrate. Okay,
mostly in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening, Thanks for making
us part of your day. One hour from now, we're
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on a four week heater with Blazing five Love our
Picks as we head into a varied and wild, tumultuous
NFL football weekend. Jmac, I gotta tell you something. I
honestly think we're very, very lucky. I watch a lot
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of football. You watch a lot of football, but we
all all across this country. We watch the team in
our hometown. More, we hear about it, more, we read
about it more. I think McVeigh is on a short
list of the best coach in American pro sports football
NBA Baseball. I think he's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You're watching this, It certainly is interesting that the Rams
show out on Thursday night football. Mcveigh's amazing. And the
other team that shares that building, Colin, they don't have
a coach.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, the coach matters. The Rams should not be this good.
Let's just state it right here. They should not be
this good. Their special teams poor, their defense kids, the
secondary is prone to getting beat over the top all
the time. What you're watching is one of the great
coaches in American pro sports and a remarkable talent at quarterback,
Dennis Allen Ron Rivera back to back weeks just got worked.
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You know, when you go to the airport during the holidays,
if you have tsa pre check and you get there
two hours early, it gives you the best chance to succeed.
Doesn't mean it won't be hell on earth when you
have McVeigh and Stafford. Stafford's healthy, mcveigh's cooking. They hide
a lot of flaws, and the Rams have them. Special
teams are scary secondary watch out, but they make a
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lot of stuff work. I love Puka Nakua, everybody does,
but ninety six catches this impactful. You think he's doing
this with the commanders of the Bears. Give me a break.
DeMarcus Robinson guy was a bounce around the league wide
receiver three teams four years. He's had touchdowns in four
straight games. Fifth round running back Kyn Williams, fifth rounder
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Notre Dame. He was good. He's a better pro than
he was in college. He's second in the NFL in rushing.
He's ahead of Christian McCaffrey in rushing. Cooper Cups even
a third round pick. I mean it is. I'm not
saying it's smoking merrors. These guys are talented, but McVeigh
is getting the most out of everybody. Stafford's an elite,
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all time talent. There's no question. He throws as pretty
a ball as we've had in a decade. And when
he's upright and has time, arm side arm arm angles
deep balls. The guy's a wizard. But I mean, Derek
Carr has Chris Olave who's tremendous. He's got fifteen fewer
catches I believed in Puka, and he's not nearly as impactful.
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Alvin Kamara with Sean Payton was unbelievable, five time Pro bowler.
He was irrelevant last night. They rarely do the Saints
even use motion and offense. They're near the bottom of
the league. It's they line up and here's the play.
The Rams offense second in the league in motion jumbo sets.
They're constantly putting your defense. Saints have a good defense.
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Defensive coach constantly in conflict. And what was Dennis Allen
doing before half? Pin the Rams deep? You'd have a
good half. Don't hand the Rams the ball because you
fail and a fourth down, give them full timeout to
mart down the field and lay by ten and half
at so FI game over? What are you doing? Pin
the Rams deep? You played a great half, You're on
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the road, come out, give yourself a shot. Coach buried it.
But I mean ask yourself this. How many teams, and
I'm gonna use the word love. How many teams in
Pro football love their head coach and love their quarterback?
Three Rams? Chiefs Ravens? That is it? Cincinnati. You guys
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wanted to fire Zach Taylor before Joe Burrow arrived Buffalo
three weeks ago. You wanted Sean McDermott out Dallas. Nobody
trusts McCarthy Philadelphia, Nick Sirion, He's not the same without
Shane Steichen. I look at these teams all around the league, Jaguars,
you have some misgivings about Trevor Lawrence, Rams, Chiefs, Ravens.
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This Ram team should not be this good. They don't
have any single elite defensive player in their prime. Aaron
Donald's still excellent, but he's out of his prime. Even
their wide receivers fifth round Puka, third round, Cooper tight end,
fourth round, Tyler Higby running back, fifth round left tackle undrafted.
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Who has a left tackle that's undrafted? The great ones
are all first round, second round guys. So this is
really remarkable coaching McVeigh and Stafford. It is a masterclass.
And I'm not standing the Rams don't have talent. I
like their offensive pieces, but you could put Kyron Williams
with a lot of teams and Puka Nicol with a
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lot of teams. He wouldn't be ninety six catch guy.
Puka's going to go over one hundred catches and last
night he was a centerpiece in the second half. And
then bounce around the league guy DeMarcus Robinson, the receiver
was a centerpiece of the first half. What's going on here,
What's going on is unbelievable. Culture and energy mixed with
a shrewd GM who works very well and collaborate with
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his coach. And matt Stafford is something else here, shan After.
We sure make it interesting, don't we got it? Game
O games?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
But I love the I love the resilience of this group.
They just continue to show up. Thought there was a
lot of really good stuff throughout the course of this game.
Matthew Stafford was outstanding. Kyen Williams did a great job.
I thought the Marcus Robinson and Puco were big time
from the very beginning, and then we gave up some
stuff at the end that we got to clean up.
And there's a lot of things that we can certainly
improve upon special teams. But love this group, really proud
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of them, and it's gonna make for a good Christmas.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
So Merry Christmas to you guys. I'm out of here.
So there's a reason they make it close. They're flawed,
they got holes. This is a rebuild year. There's a
reason they dominate teams. And at the end, you're like,
why is this Commander game close? Why is this Saints
game close? It's close because they've got holes on the
roster fixable with one more free agency. They've got some
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cap space and another strong draft. But it is fun
to watch football well when it's brilliantly coached and smartly quarterbacked.
And that's what the Rams are. I don't know if
you heard the news last night yoshinobu Ya Moto signed
with the Dodgers twelve years, twenty five year old star
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from Japan, three hundred million plus. When I worked at ESPN,
the other place, the Red Sox and Yankees controlled what
they called the Hot Stove League. It was hot for
two teams, it was celebrated. It was never a problem
kristall for everyone. Now suddenly the Dodgers have the two
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top prizes. Bad for baseball, nonsense. What's bad for baseball
is the Rays in the World Series or Otani going
to Canada or staying in Anaheim. It's not bad for
tennis that Serena dominated it like nobody else for seventeen years,
it got its biggest ratings. Or the Tiger dominated golf
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for fifteen he left, so did the ratings. The Dodgers
are now must see TV and the sport's never been even.
How many World Series titles do the Rockies Mariners have?
How many do the Yankees have. The Braves are always
well run. Detroit never is in recent memory. The sports
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not even there's no salary cap. This is now Ocean's
eleven Pitt and Andy Garcia and Bernie Mack and Julia
Roberts and Matt Damon and Don Chetoh and Julia Roberts.
It's one of my favorite movies. How unfair. Though it's
got all the stars, yes, all playing roles. There's no
guarantee the Dodgers even win a single World series. Baseball's quirky.
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The season lasts forever, arm angles, pitchers all of a sudden,
Walker Bueller just disappeared this year. It happens hero was
on pins and needles at the end of a season
and in spring trading. Will the arms stay healthy? The
Dodgers last year moved off some stars in one one
hundred games. Even with these two additive superstars, it's one
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oh four. That's they're over under. There's no guarantees this
is going to win and dominate baseball. If you could
get a couple World Series over seven eight years, the
Dodgers probably be pretty happy. It's a different sport. It's
not quarterback led or NBA superstar led. It's a collaborative
vehicle that needs the right manager, the right analytics. You
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got to have three, four and five guys with some
power and pop, but not be owned and burdened and
literally only able to score with home runs like the Yankees.
You need athletes old and young, a bullpen, and a
setup guy. But this idea that it's bad for baseball
is absolute nonsense. It was celebrated when the Yankees and
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Red Sox because of the Yes Network in Nessen, were
way ahead of the sport. They just bought whoever they
wanted to. I know, you can watch conservative news outlets
and think nobody likes California, but our economy is number
one by a mile. The Dodgers outdraw even the second
best draw in baseball by ten thousand fans, and trust me,
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I've had a few beers there. Those are more expensive too,
But it's worth it our whether it's Mediterranean, it's a
great organization and they reward the fans and defer the payments.
It's not bad for baseball. Tampa in the World Series
is Otanian. Canada is it's must see television. It's MJ's
Bulls potentially, but not assuredly, because baseball's never work that way,
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and it's why it's quirky and weird and fun and different.
And the season's too long and the games can be
plotting and too slow. But this is great for baseball,
a villain for everybody outside of Los Angeles County. Sports
needs them. The Dodgers are feeding them, and I can't
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wait a j MAC. I know today felt like La Radio,
but it is fun. I will say this. Well coached
football is fun to watch. Cowboys Dolphins this weekend could
be very well coached football. I've got thoughts on that.
In the other side, I.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Remember yesterday all the sharp, big professional gamblers were driving
that line down a Ram Saints. I remember that we
were like, ah, we didn't understand, really, what are we seeing?
Rams were up thirty to seven last night. That was
a beatdown Colin. They were definitely the better say.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But you know it's funny. Is as much as I
like the Rams, I know how the season's going to end.
They're going to outplay somebody in the playoffs, miss a
field goal and get burned deep with forty eight seconds
to go. The team, like mcvay's laughing, we make them
close they make them close because they're not Philadelphia last
year or Kansas City last year. They're not that kind
of team. They've got holes, they've got youth, they can't
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get kicking right, another punt block, missfield goals. They're a
totally flawed team. But I can appreciate brilliant efficient management
and coaching, ownership and quarterbacking.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, Rams Lions would be a hell of a play.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
That would be a great story where to Matt Stafford
plays like it's entire golf.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Sent packing by the Rams. Yes, that would be That
would be on foss.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That would be a scoring game in the Dome. I'm
not ruling out the Rams winning that. I think it's
a close one for like a last possession.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yes, yeah, it wouldn't be a lot of defense. I
think the Rams can play a game. Rams can play
it in spurts, but Detroit's a fast track and Detroit
plays fast at home. In between Gibbs and Laporta and
amor on Saint Brown and now the emerging young receiver Williams.
Rams would Rams would give up some uh some BOMs.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, that would be it.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That might be the best wildcard game. Can we just
make it happen. Speak it into existence.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
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Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, I just get to sit and watch football on Sunday.
The Late Fox game is a Dallas offered ugly loss
at Miami, and I've had my doubts about Miami all
season long. I don't expect much from them in the playoffs,
although this is the year to do well in the AFC.
Mahomes is down, Burrows gone, Baltimore's falling apart. But Miami,
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the Dolphins are a perfect representation of Miami. They're fun,
they're exciting, they're flashy and a little fake. Dallas is different.
They can be physical. I've seen it. They can overwhelm
you physically. I've seen it. They have a suffocating defense.
I've seen it time and time again. But what the
hell was that against Buffalo? What was that? The difference
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between Miami and Dallas is Dallas has multiple elements that
Super Bowl winning teams have had. A veteran offensive coach,
not a kid genius, a Pro Bowl quarterback having his
best year, a star, game changing wide receiver, an elite
elite pass rush and pass rusher, and an excellent O
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line Top three. According to PFF, the Dolphins is at
best to work in progress. Plus they've had seven blowout
wins that is customary for the last decade for Super
Bowl champs. Dallas has a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I like.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Miami is a lot of fake tough guy, fake Gucci bag.
But the Cowboys have a real Gucci bag and they
actually are tough, and they're not a forty thousand dollars millionaire.
They're actually a millionaire. Like, there's a lot of elements
to Miami that I think are inauthentic and fake. With Dallas,
I've seen them physically push around good teams, even the coach,
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Mike McDaniel. Twitter loves him, Hipsters adore him. Mike McCarthy's
got a Super Bowl. He doesn't have a Twitter account.
He's boring. Miami's easier to like. They're fun, they're new,
they're flashy. It's two. It's Mike McDaniel. He's awesome. He's
a hipster. You see his viral stuff. McCarthy he could
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lose a few pounds and he's boring. It doesn't Land
the same. I mean it really doesn't. Like he is
the most boring coach. That's a good coach in the league.
Even Belichick is grumpy but kind of bizarrely privately fascinating.
Why is he so bad now? Why was he so
good then? So I see Dallas blowing him out. I
think Dallas is gonna blow him out. I think they're
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gonna push him around. I think two is gonna get
sacks seven to eight times. I think he's gonna be
running for his life, passes batted down. I'm here to
tell you right now, I think Dallas is going to
go in there and control the football game beginning to end.
And Tyreek Hill have some you know, he'll do some
somersaults in the end zone. He'll have a big player too.
Daron Bland will bite on an out, it'll be an
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out and up, it'll be a chair, it'll be a
touchdown and everybody will celebrate. But the crowd will be
seventy five percent Cowboys. And one team doesn't have to
have a fake guccie bag. They've got a real one.
Sometimes they lose it, but they got a real one.
And I like Dallas, big, big, being ten points, twelve points,
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comfortably in control to a running for his life getting sacked,
Dak time to throw brad Lee Chubb overwhelmed by Tyron
Smith interior offensive line creating big holes for Tony Pollard,
Dak with time to throw to a none. That's how
I see it, Jay Mick with the news.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
No, no, this is the Herdline news.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Wow, I thought you're uh. Your Aaron Rodgers take was
the hottest take you had this week.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
That was spicy. You think the Cowboys smashed that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think listen, score a side double digit win. It
will look. You will watch that game. It's not gonna
be Buffalo Dallas. You're gonna watch that game and go,
oh two is under constant drect that's possible and Dak's
got nothing but time.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Quick note, Zach Martin has a practice this week either
as Tyron Smith the got you just mentioned, so two
starters potentially down.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Tyro against plays, Dak has all data.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Okay, I have a feeling we'll revisit this a little
later in the show. Perhaps let's start with the Eagles
really three straight losses. Jalen Hurts had those weird comments
after the game about commitment yesterday he doubled down on
his comments, but started to shoulder some of the load
on himself.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
All of that starts with me, and that's something that
I that I own, you know, That's something that I
take responsibility in and I've never shot away from. And
so I embraced that challenge. You know what I'm saying,
I've breached that challenge place upon myself and.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
My teammates.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
It's just a situation where we are, you know where
It's just something that we're going through. That's so we're
stuck in. You know, it's it's beauty and all of this.
You know, it's beauty and all of it, and I
embrace every every ounce of it.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, Philadelphia is gonna win thirteen and a half. That's
for a division game. That is an insane line.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yet, especially for a team that's lost three in a row.
But I love the Eagles in this spot. This feels
like thirty to nine or something insane. We've talked about
concern level for the Eagles if Dallas wins that game
against Miami, oh winning that they're still firmly in control.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Like the Eagles do not want to have to go
on the road in the first round. They need that
division win.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I don't know something about Hurts like hat all low
speaking kind of slowly. I wonder is there something brewing
in that locker room. You think three straight law there's
a team that.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Had a lot of s that's brewing. They're angry and
should be because they outplayed Seattle. Philadelphia is mad they
had that game won and gave it up. I think
Philadelphia is gonna come out and put a whooping on
the Giants. I think Philadelphia is good. They're gonna finish
thirteen and four. They're gonna have this mid seat late
season blit because they played the Cowboys and the Niners
and all these tough games. I think they're resolute. I
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think they're focused. I think they're ticked off. I think
they're a little embarrassed how they lost in Seattle. I
think they're embarrassed about that.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, a lot of finger pointing.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Bradbury got lit up that people are going after Sirianni,
Brian Johnson, Jalen hurt Well.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
A lot of finger pointing outside of the organization. There's
no finger pointing in. Sirianni said, it's all on me.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
We don't know that.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It's weird that Sirianni in the in the quarterback are like, hey,
it's on me, It's on me, It's on me, because
maybe they know and some of the guys are starting
to worry, like this is the first adversity this team's
had in.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I mean, what over a year and a half, right, yeah,
because they got a J.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
It's been a honeymoon.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
They've been dominating everyone, and now it's like, ooh, not
going great.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I like the Sixers and the Eagles. I'm gonna start
doing Afternoon Drive in Philadelphia. I'll just talk Sixers and
Eagles and people will love me and I'll have a parade.
I am pro Philadelphia everything. I even like the Phillies.
What's happened to me? Well?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Bryce, Bryce Harper is fun.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well that that he makes a big difference, you know,
Joel embiid huh Okay, Afternoon Drive on ninety six dot five,
that's the new me. Okay when I retired from this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, let's get to the uh the MVP leader Brock Party,
your guy brock Perty you love him? Oh my goodness.
He's been called a system quarterback by a bunch of people.
I don't think you've said that, but other people have. Well,
you know, Kyle Hamilton, the really talented young safety on
the Ravens, he's saying, uhh, that guy's no system quarterback.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
I mean the way around the league is he's a
system quarterback, and I just think that's not true just
from what obviously. And he's making every throw and you
can make as quarterbacks on time, on target, makes good decisions,
he's mobile, and he's got a great cast around him
at the same time. But I mean, yeah, he's really good,
and props to him for he's a pretty cool story
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of what he's done now and he's MVP race, so
it's gonna be a good challenge.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
But I'm excited to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I didn't say it was a system quarterback, which, by
the way, everybody is somewhat of a system quarterback. I
don't think he's a game manager. I think he's good,
but I do think he's good. He's a good flair good,
good good.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Have you looked at that Niners injury report, By the way,
banged up Armstead did not practice, Hargrave, hard Grave, they
did not practice for the other.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Two big dudes in the middle.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, Baltimore will run the ball.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So with those injuries, when this practice report comes out
later today, if those two guys are still not practicing all,
we probably won't play.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I think this will dip down to four. Well we
see a three and a half.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't know blazing five is including this game. I
often avoid the big trap games, the TV emotional games.
I stay away from those. I concentrate on the Saints
and the Titans. But this week I'm going right after
this one.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So last week Gravens go down to Jacksonville, then back
up to Baltimore. Now across the country to San France.
Not ideal called planes.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's okay, I.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Understand, but that that's a lot of travel for December
holiday time.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
You know, you got stuff to do with the whites in.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
My late fifties. I'm flying today, I'll ski tomorrow. It's okay.
They're called plane. I'm not Lewis and Clark here not
scaling now. Baltimore's fine there, Lewis, they're traveling by first
class planes and eating roast beef sandwiches and having frescos.
You think they're okay.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
They're eating roast beef.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
They're eating this is believe me.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
NK Wow, are those your favorite expedition?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Guys always have been top of my list.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I'm a Vasco de Gama.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think I liked him. I sold some of his
stock late. A little quirky for me. Couldn't depend on
like D'Angelo Russell in the playoffs. Couldn't depend on. Speaking
of Russell, I lost too often and this is the explorer.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Sears to the Lakers. DiAngelo Russell last night played a
lot of minutes more than Austin Reeves Jarvan and getting questions.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Lakers lose to the t Wolves. Wolves are good.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
T Wolves are very good.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
They're very good. Their records awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Lakers need Lakers have some problems then and uh after
the loss, Anthony Davis is a little ticked off.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Lebron did not play.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
We know what we can be, We've shown what we
can be, and we're shown that we don't do the
things we need to do to be successful. Then we're
going to continue to be on this side of our record,
which is losing. So sab season then be down. No,
right now, we're in that down period. You gotta continue
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to fight. You play some energy and uhat Saturdays it mustling.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Anthony Davis is doing jazz, fine. They need wing help,
better wing defenders. They need to be a little more
athletic on the wing. This lead this West. Denver's young,
Minnesota's young, Sacramento's young, Portland's young. There's a lot that
the West is getting young very fast. The Lakers tend
to be a tad old. I think they need a
little more hop, a little more twitch on the wing.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
So they play on Saturday, they game he was referencing.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, that's there's another super young, talented team.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
And then they play the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
They're gonna lose that one, so.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
They might lose two more year. And then you start
to wonder, what.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Remember last year? Didn't the Celtics and Lakers play last Christmas?
Is that me and I was sitting there, and.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I believe what I remember. I remember that dinner last.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
No, I remember that case. That was good. Wasn't it
last year?
Speaker 6 (25:02):
That was?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
There was a Lakers Celtic game I watched on a
Saturday night. It was great.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I know we've.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Hyped a lot, but I'm just telling you, Chet Holmgren
is the real deal. No, he's this guy looks off
and Okay, he's good.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
And the Lakers. They got some problems.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Colin currently, they'd be in the plane and it's if
they lose two more we're looking at Oh boy, here
we go.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Very curious what what Darvin.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ham does because you know the front office you're gonna have.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
To do something.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
There's no chance they missed the playoffs is because they're
a lebron two week injury away from being like.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Twelfth in the West.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
This is not ideal for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Right jam Mack with the news.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The herd Line News. By the way, the Bills uh
get a bit of a breather. They face Eastern stick
in the Chargers. This is interesting. Josh Allen so I
yesterday I said some sort of premonition. This is the
best Buffalo team I've seen. They're not nearly as dependent
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on Josh Allen. They feel like a super Bowl team
to me. I worry that Baltimore is falling apart physically.
I really worry about it. In Kansas City's issues are
not going away. Josh Allen leads the NFL with thirty
seven touchdowns. If he scores three more on Saturday against
the Chargers, he'll become the first in NFL history to
have forty touchdowns in four consecutive seasons. Guys so good. Mahomes,
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like Joe Montana or Tom Brady, is a great talent,
but has the necessary elements to be highly productive in February,
the perfect coach, the great owner, cash heavy, franchise stability.
But as a singular force, there is one Josh Allen
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in the league. As a singular force, six six two forty, hyperathletic,
can jump over linebackers. Every tool in the tool belt
is a plus, and size matters. Despite massive violent collisions,
He's rarely even dinged up. Think about this, Josh Allen
is already second all time in quarterback rushing touchdowns. For
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God's sakes, it's year six. He's thirty five percent through
his career. He's not only gonna win that he's gonna
blow I think Cam Newton out of the water. This
is not a knock on Mahomes, who is the most
productive and the currently the best quarterback in the league.
But he's got an A plus owner, an a plus GM,
an a plus coach, the best tight end ever and
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for a while, the best receiver in football, and Tyreek
kill in a highly dysfunctional division with the Raiders. We
don't know who their coach is next year, the Chargers,
Ditto and Denver, they'll figure it out. Good, not great.
Josh Allen year six now with a dependable run game.
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To me, this is officially the scariest team in the AFC.
I've been on Baltimore all year, but we have to
be honest. They lost Mitchell the running back, Ronnie Stanley
left tackle, now rarely healthy. Their top tight end's gone
for the year. They're becoming a little Lamar dependent. This
Buffalo team very interesting. Like them a lot. Michael Irvin's
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going to be around the corner for us. We don't
get Michael often, but it's a big cowboy weekend and
we need to discuss it. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Herd Weekdays and Noone Eastern a em
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 11 (28:51):
Hey, I'm Doug Gottlie. The podcast is called All Ball.
We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's
more about the stories about what made these people love
their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way.
We talked to coaches, we talked to players. We tell
you stories, you.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Download it, you listen to it.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
I think you like it.
Speaker 11 (29:11):
Listen to All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Got a lot of stars.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
It's a lot of stars out here, but I love it, man,
and happy holidays to everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You are slim down, you look fantastic.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Well, listen, I went through something this offseason, the fat
to jump off you when you worrying that much too,
trust me, trust me all that gets out of here.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
With that kid to worry.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
But no, I'm good man, I'm good, and I'm just
having a great time this year.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Okay, So we love having you. So I think I
didn't sell my Buffalo stock, or might Cowboy stock. I
do think occasionally if you go up to a Buffalo
with Josh Allen, it's a little wet and rainy, you're
feeling yourself. That thing goes sideways. Even your Cowboy teams.
You would go on the road sometimes and you know
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two series and Michael is over.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
Yeah, well you don't. You don't buy into two series
is over. But two series you'd be like, we are
in the well that this is gonna be something. We
gotta try to figure this one out. You know, it's
going to be that kind of game, and it's going
to take to take everything you got to pull up
out of it. And I saw that with Dallas. You know,
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first of all, you go down they stopped Buffalo and
you get the the DeMarcus Lawrence fag right, so that
you're Buffalo now instead of three, that's seven points. You
get another opportunity. Then you come back, so so you
hold that the three. Then you you hit Brandon Cooks.
You were up seven to three. That was wide open touchdown,
and then you block the punt that I don't know
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how that block punt thing happened. How you jumped over
the punt that was being and missed that that would
have been fourteen three. That find the swing right there
in that game, Yeah, means everything.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Everything.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Any chance you had.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
At winning that game, you had to do it right
in the genesis of that game. You had to withstand
that what I called the month soon. Yes of fans
who thinks that if they beat the Cowboys today that
somehow make up for the rings I got in mind
the trophy room right now, it does not.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
I still got them rings. But they came out anyway
and played hard.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah they did. I'll get back to that in a second. Matthew,
I want to talk about Matthew Stafford McVeigh. It's a
flawed team. They don't have an elite defender in their prime.
Pookah is a fifth rounder, Kyraen Williams a fifth rounder.
Higbe a fourth rounder. But when I watch them play
the motion on the offense, the sets Michael, they are humming,
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and sometimes it's belief. I think when I watch the Rams,
I think that offense believes you're not stopping us. They
are risk taking, they are running. I see a confidence reildy.
I think they're a flawed team. Can they win multiple
playoff games?
Speaker 7 (32:11):
And it's just a question and a lot of teams
are flawed and we're finding this out. And what I've
been saying here for the last few weeks is you
can have your flaws, but you better be able to
score points.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Offense is what matters, and the Rams have some offense.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
They're scoring.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
I don't know if they can beat everybody on a
run to a Super Bowl, but they can beat anybody
that's trying to run.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
To a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That's great point.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Anybody that's trying to run to a super Bowl. And
here's the kicker, Well, you were just talking about fourth round,
fifth rounding guys that don't supposed to be here right now,
and they're playing with house winning as a team. As
a team, it's house winning because you're not supposed to
be I think they predicted him before and something on
the five five win team this year, and look at
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him now. And then you got these young players who
don't even know they don't supposed to be doing what
they're doing. They don't know what they don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
What do you make of Pooka now?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Like you?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
He is a big physical kid.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Make smart, smart player, plays hard, make plays that it's
one ball that that he made.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
One play made last night was insane.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
He uses his bosses leverage.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Right, And somebody was talking about that when we were
watching the game, and they said, well, and he pushed
you off. It's no, no, no no, that those are locators.
You know, whenever I put my hand on a person,
I wasn't necessarily pushing him. I was just locating him.
I just want to locate were here. They called a locator.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
You need them.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Locator just locate where they are, got us move them
a little bit and get the ball. He's great at that.
And these are young quarterbacks really playing wide receiver. Him
and Coop and in that mastermind Sean McVay, who is
a master mind.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Yeah, you know, it makes it motion and dangywhere right?
Speaker 7 (34:10):
All the motion movement so your I G gets caught
over here and they come. It's just amazing what the guys,
what they're doing. It's amazing what these young coaches are doing.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So it's interesting people are bailing on Philadelphia. And I've
said this about the Eagles. When you have to have
your defense on the field for ninety snaps in multiple
weeks because their offense is uneven, it's really an offensive problem.
We're all saying defense is the problem, but we know
their defense isn't great. But the problem is their defense
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is on the field for ninety steps. It's Buffalo, it's
Kansas City, it's Dallas, even Seattle they outplayed them end
of the game. Defense is like, we're on the field
too much. I think I think they solve a lot
of their issues with a more even offense. I think
they should go back to what they are heavy Jalen
hurts right the ball, That's what I think.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
But he's not as healthy and you can see it
in his gates. So I can tell you when he's running,
when he's when when he's coming up on guys, he's
coming up, you can see he's he's not the same.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Jalen hurts right now.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
And I think what we're looking at it and were
you losing another game? I think we should be kind
of throwing some praise on this dude because he felt
just like, I can't leave my dudes out here, no
matter how hurt I am.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
He's not.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
He hasn't missed the game.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
He still pops back in there and plays hard for
his team.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
But you can see they're struggling right now. And that happens.
Let me tell you, so each.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
Year we won a Super Bowl, each one of those
years we had like a two game losing streak. We
would always lose one game and I won't say this
is not gonna happen again. We're gonna fix it. We
got it, we got it, and you'll lose another one
and and then you tell spin like, what the what
is going on?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Will you get where Philly is right now?
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Where the coach feels like I have to come out
and say put it all on me, because he sees
that his offense, he sees that.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
His quarterback is taking too much on him. Yeah, it
was smarter him to come on and say, no, put
it on me.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Let's pivot back to the Cowboys. I like them against
Miami for a couple of reasons. I think if Tyron
Smith is healthy, that will give it will mitigate Bradley Chubb,
and it will give Dak a lot of time. I
thought in Buffalo he didn't have the time. They couldn't
run the ball. Then he gets behind Dak trailing, isn't
Dak leading? And I think he'll lead. They'll be comfortable.
I also think they were humiliated physically. They're embarrassed by
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it right, and they'll establish physicality early. But it is interesting, Michael,
that they're almost a college team. They're great at home
and collapse on the road. Were you ever on a
team in college or pro that maybe wasn't mature enough?
Road is often maturity. Road is a veteran staff. Sometimes
you know the Cowboys are a glamor franchise. Tuesday Wednesday,
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you don't quite put the time in you and I
look at Dallas and I think it's not a lack
of talent, but they're very uneven home and away. Is
it youth? Is it lack of maturity? What is it?
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Well?
Speaker 7 (37:12):
First of all, because we run off with this and
the Cowboys went three and four in the road right now,
it went into last week, I think it was three
and three head and then lost last week three and four,
just just just speaking, if you want it to and
we'll stay sixteen to.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Make it even that's eight and eight.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
If you can go for for on the road and
have the record you have at home, you're having twelve
and twelve and four seasons.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Everybody in the world will sign up for that, you
see what I mean, it'll sign up for that.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
So this is very very very very careful waters that
they have to tread because you absolutely need to make
sure you prove any yourself that you can win games
on the road, and this is your last great opportunity
and you have to prove it to yourself because you're
going to be playing playoff games.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
On the road.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
If things don't fall out absolutely perfect game, it'll take
a miracle almost for you to fall out where you're
having it at home. You know, even though I must
admit last night they gave you a little hope that
with the way that Rams played that maybe you could
have that possibility if Philly falls off and then the
Rams go take care of some business after the Baltimore
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take care of the business.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
There's a possibility in there.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
But they have to get their mindset ready to go
on the road, and this is a great opportunity to put.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
All of this stuff shoulders up.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
Behind them and say we beat a good team on
the road and beating Miami. That's why this is a
huge game.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Let's it's the Fox game, late game. Let's talk Miami.
We got a minute to a minute and a half left.
I like them, but I do think I can't see
them going to Baltimore. Too. Cold Weather to Buffalo, it's
just ingrained in me. Miami to even Marinos teams. There
is something about cold Weather, toughness, physicality. Maybe that's part
of the Cowboys problem twenty five years. Do you buy Miami?
Speaker 7 (39:07):
I do I buy explosiveness like that in any current
turn anywhere.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
I'm not the dummy like everybody else.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
In the world who keeps saying that defense is winning championships.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
There's a dummy talking.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
This dummy talk, I can't take it's points. And you
get that on offense mostly now turnover defense.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
I call it that.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
You can bounce has that that's the difference.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
You gotta turn that ball over so I can go
get points, you know. So, so yeah, you can put
up points. They can put up points. Miami's a dangerous
team because of that right there, and they will always
being in.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
That's why this is dangerous for Dallas. They gotta they
get in.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
All that man running with this team with all that
speed they have and all these crawl seeing routes that
this master will design, that this master designer will design plays.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
It's going to be tough for Dallas. They that's why
they got outscored.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
I said earlier it be forty one thirty eight, and
I need that and those guys to just light it up.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Finally a minute left. It's the holidays. Now are you
do you do you buy a lot of gifts for
the fam? No?
Speaker 6 (40:24):
And that's why I was so happy. Man.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
We were almost crying up there when Luwayne gave us gifts. Today,
I buy all the gifts. I don't go shopping for
all the gifts. I don't get any gifts. I tell people,
don't worry about buying me a gift with my money.
Just say happy Erry Christmas. Just save Harry Christmas because
they'll say, I got this gift. Can you send me
ten thousand dollars? I want to get you a gift.
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I don't need it. Don't worry, I don't need it.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Well, it's great having you here. Happy holidays to you.
And you've been such a great addition to the network.
In that show. We've been trying to eat for years,
been talking about getting Michael Irvan over here, and we do.
And we absolutely love having you.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Yeah, And I love being here Colin Man, and you
know I love you, man, and come on and talk
with you guys anytime.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
Man. This makes it great. It makes it It really
is just great to be here.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
All right, Get up, go, get on your plane. We
know you're always rushing. You stay here for us on Fridays.
We know you got a plane to catch and we
appreciate it. I'm good, all right, all right, blazing five.
Feel good about it. On a heater. You can walk
in front of the camera. You're Michael Irvan. You're Michael Irvin,
You're You're not a number three possession receiver.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You know,
Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to
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Fox Sports Radio. All right, here we go. It is
a Friday, and there is so much to celebrate. Okay,
mostly in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening, Thanks for making
us part of your day. One hour from now, we're
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on a four week heater with Blazing five Love our
Picks as we head into a varied and wild, tumultuous
NFL football weekend. Jmac, I gotta tell you something. I
honestly think we're very, very lucky. I watch a lot
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of football. You watch a lot of football, but we
all all across this country. We watch the team in
our hometown. More, we hear about it, more, we read
about it more. I think McVeigh is on a short
list of the best coach in American pro sports football
NBA Baseball. I think he's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You're watching this, It certainly is interesting that the Rams
show out on Thursday night football. Mcveigh's amazing. And the
other team that shares that building, Colin, they don't have
a coach.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, the coach matters. The Rams should not be this good.
Let's just state it right here. They should not be
this good. Their special teams poor, their defense kids, the
secondary is prone to getting beat over the top all
the time. What you're watching is one of the great
coaches in American pro sports and a remarkable talent at quarterback,
Dennis Allen Ron Rivera back to back weeks just got worked.
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You know, when you go to the airport during the holidays,
if you have tsa pre check and you get there
two hours early, it gives you the best chance to succeed.
Doesn't mean it won't be hell on earth when you
have McVeigh and Stafford. Stafford's healthy, mcveigh's cooking. They hide
a lot of flaws, and the Rams have them. Special
teams are scary secondary watch out, but they make a
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lot of stuff work. I love Puka Nakua, everybody does,
but ninety six catches this impactful. You think he's doing
this with the commanders of the Bears. Give me a break.
DeMarcus Robinson guy was a bounce around the league wide
receiver three teams four years. He's had touchdowns in four
straight games. Fifth round running back Kyn Williams, fifth rounder
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Notre Dame. He was good. He's a better pro than
he was in college. He's second in the NFL in rushing.
He's ahead of Christian McCaffrey in rushing. Cooper Cups even
a third round pick. I mean it is. I'm not
saying it's smoking merrors. These guys are talented, but McVeigh
is getting the most out of everybody. Stafford's an elite,
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all time talent. There's no question. He throws as pretty
a ball as we've had in a decade. And when
he's upright and has time, arm side arm arm angles
deep balls. The guy's a wizard. But I mean, Derek
Carr has Chris Olave who's tremendous. He's got fifteen fewer
catches I believed in Puka, and he's not nearly as impactful.
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Alvin Kamara with Sean Payton was unbelievable, five time Pro bowler.
He was irrelevant last night. They rarely do the Saints
even use motion and offense. They're near the bottom of
the league. It's they line up and here's the play.
The Rams offense second in the league in motion jumbo sets.
They're constantly putting your defense. Saints have a good defense.
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Defensive coach constantly in conflict. And what was Dennis Allen
doing before half? Pin the Rams deep? You'd have a
good half. Don't hand the Rams the ball because you
fail and a fourth down, give them full timeout to
mart down the field and lay by ten and half
at so FI game over? What are you doing? Pin
the Rams deep? You played a great half, You're on
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the road, come out, give yourself a shot. Coach buried it.
But I mean ask yourself this. How many teams, and
I'm gonna use the word love. How many teams in
Pro football love their head coach and love their quarterback?
Three Rams? Chiefs Ravens? That is it? Cincinnati. You guys
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wanted to fire Zach Taylor before Joe Burrow arrived Buffalo
three weeks ago. You wanted Sean McDermott out Dallas. Nobody
trusts McCarthy Philadelphia, Nick Sirion, He's not the same without
Shane Steichen. I look at these teams all around the league, Jaguars,
you have some misgivings about Trevor Lawrence, Rams, Chiefs, Ravens.
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This Ram team should not be this good. They don't
have any single elite defensive player in their prime. Aaron
Donald's still excellent, but he's out of his prime. Even
their wide receivers fifth round Puka, third round, Cooper tight end,
fourth round, Tyler Higby running back, fifth round left tackle undrafted.
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Who has a left tackle that's undrafted? The great ones
are all first round, second round guys. So this is
really remarkable coaching McVeigh and Stafford. It is a masterclass.
And I'm not standing the Rams don't have talent. I
like their offensive pieces, but you could put Kyron Williams
with a lot of teams and Puka Nicol with a
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lot of teams. He wouldn't be ninety six catch guy.
Puka's going to go over one hundred catches and last
night he was a centerpiece in the second half. And
then bounce around the league guy DeMarcus Robinson, the receiver
was a centerpiece of the first half. What's going on here,
What's going on is unbelievable. Culture and energy mixed with
a shrewd GM who works very well and collaborate with
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his coach. And matt Stafford is something else here, shan After.
We sure make it interesting, don't we got it? Game
O games?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
But I love the I love the resilience of this group.
They just continue to show up. Thought there was a
lot of really good stuff throughout the course of this game.
Matthew Stafford was outstanding. Kyen Williams did a great job.
I thought the Marcus Robinson and Puco were big time
from the very beginning, and then we gave up some
stuff at the end that we got to clean up.
And there's a lot of things that we can certainly
improve upon special teams. But love this group, really proud
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of them, and it's gonna make for a good Christmas.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
So Merry Christmas to you guys. I'm out of here.
So there's a reason they make it close. They're flawed,
they got holes. This is a rebuild year. There's a
reason they dominate teams. And at the end, you're like,
why is this Commander game close? Why is this Saints
game close? It's close because they've got holes on the
roster fixable with one more free agency. They've got some
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cap space and another strong draft. But it is fun
to watch football well when it's brilliantly coached and smartly quarterbacked.
And that's what the Rams are. I don't know if
you heard the news last night yoshinobu Ya Moto signed
with the Dodgers twelve years, twenty five year old star
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from Japan, three hundred million plus. When I worked at ESPN,
the other place, the Red Sox and Yankees controlled what
they called the Hot Stove League. It was hot for
two teams, it was celebrated. It was never a problem
kristall for everyone. Now suddenly the Dodgers have the two
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top prizes. Bad for baseball, nonsense. What's bad for baseball
is the Rays in the World Series or Otani going
to Canada or staying in Anaheim. It's not bad for
tennis that Serena dominated it like nobody else for seventeen years,
it got its biggest ratings. Or the Tiger dominated golf
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for fifteen he left, so did the ratings. The Dodgers
are now must see TV and the sport's never been even.
How many World Series titles do the Rockies Mariners have?
How many do the Yankees have. The Braves are always
well run. Detroit never is in recent memory. The sports
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not even there's no salary cap. This is now Ocean's
eleven Pitt and Andy Garcia and Bernie Mack and Julia
Roberts and Matt Damon and Don Chetoh and Julia Roberts.
It's one of my favorite movies. How unfair. Though it's
got all the stars, yes, all playing roles. There's no
guarantee the Dodgers even win a single World series. Baseball's quirky.
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The season lasts forever, arm angles, pitchers all of a sudden,
Walker Bueller just disappeared this year. It happens hero was
on pins and needles at the end of a season
and in spring trading. Will the arms stay healthy? The
Dodgers last year moved off some stars in one one
hundred games. Even with these two additive superstars, it's one
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oh four. That's they're over under. There's no guarantees this
is going to win and dominate baseball. If you could
get a couple World Series over seven eight years, the
Dodgers probably be pretty happy. It's a different sport. It's
not quarterback led or NBA superstar led. It's a collaborative
vehicle that needs the right manager, the right analytics. You
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got to have three, four and five guys with some
power and pop, but not be owned and burdened and
literally only able to score with home runs like the Yankees.
You need athletes old and young, a bullpen, and a
setup guy. But this idea that it's bad for baseball
is absolute nonsense. It was celebrated when the Yankees and
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Red Sox because of the Yes Network in Nessen, were
way ahead of the sport. They just bought whoever they
wanted to. I know, you can watch conservative news outlets
and think nobody likes California, but our economy is number
one by a mile. The Dodgers outdraw even the second
best draw in baseball by ten thousand fans, and trust me,
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I've had a few beers there. Those are more expensive too,
But it's worth it our whether it's Mediterranean, it's a
great organization and they reward the fans and defer the payments.
It's not bad for baseball. Tampa in the World Series
is Otanian. Canada is it's must see television. It's MJ's
Bulls potentially, but not assuredly, because baseball's never work that way,
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and it's why it's quirky and weird and fun and different.
And the season's too long and the games can be
plotting and too slow. But this is great for baseball,
a villain for everybody outside of Los Angeles County. Sports
needs them. The Dodgers are feeding them, and I can't
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wait a j MAC. I know today felt like La Radio,
but it is fun. I will say this. Well coached
football is fun to watch. Cowboys Dolphins this weekend could
be very well coached football. I've got thoughts on that.
In the other side, I.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Remember yesterday all the sharp, big professional gamblers were driving
that line down a Ram Saints. I remember that we
were like, ah, we didn't understand, really, what are we seeing?
Rams were up thirty to seven last night. That was
a beatdown Colin. They were definitely the better say.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But you know it's funny. Is as much as I
like the Rams, I know how the season's going to end.
They're going to outplay somebody in the playoffs, miss a
field goal and get burned deep with forty eight seconds
to go. The team, like mcvay's laughing, we make them
close they make them close because they're not Philadelphia last
year or Kansas City last year. They're not that kind
of team. They've got holes, they've got youth, they can't
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get kicking right, another punt block, missfield goals. They're a
totally flawed team. But I can appreciate brilliant efficient management
and coaching, ownership and quarterbacking.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, Rams Lions would be a hell of a play.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
That would be a great story where to Matt Stafford
plays like it's entire golf.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Sent packing by the Rams. Yes, that would be That
would be on foss.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That would be a scoring game in the Dome. I'm
not ruling out the Rams winning that. I think it's
a close one for like a last possession.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yes, yeah, it wouldn't be a lot of defense. I
think the Rams can play a game. Rams can play
it in spurts, but Detroit's a fast track and Detroit
plays fast at home. In between Gibbs and Laporta and
amor on Saint Brown and now the emerging young receiver Williams.
Rams would Rams would give up some uh some BOMs.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, that would be it.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That might be the best wildcard game. Can we just
make it happen. Speak it into existence.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
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They'll be ready to be physical. And I'll take the
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Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, I just get to sit and watch football on Sunday.
The Late Fox game is a Dallas offered ugly loss
at Miami, and I've had my doubts about Miami all
season long. I don't expect much from them in the playoffs,
although this is the year to do well in the AFC.
Mahomes is down, Burrows gone, Baltimore's falling apart. But Miami,
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the Dolphins are a perfect representation of Miami. They're fun,
they're exciting, they're flashy and a little fake. Dallas is different.
They can be physical. I've seen it. They can overwhelm
you physically. I've seen it. They have a suffocating defense.
I've seen it time and time again. But what the
hell was that against Buffalo? What was that? The difference
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between Miami and Dallas is Dallas has multiple elements that
Super Bowl winning teams have had. A veteran offensive coach,
not a kid genius, a Pro Bowl quarterback having his
best year, a star, game changing wide receiver, an elite
elite pass rush and pass rusher, and an excellent O
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line Top three. According to PFF, the Dolphins is at
best to work in progress. Plus they've had seven blowout
wins that is customary for the last decade for Super
Bowl champs. Dallas has a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I like.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Miami is a lot of fake tough guy, fake Gucci bag.
But the Cowboys have a real Gucci bag and they
actually are tough, and they're not a forty thousand dollars millionaire.
They're actually a millionaire. Like, there's a lot of elements
to Miami that I think are inauthentic and fake. With Dallas,
I've seen them physically push around good teams, even the coach,
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Mike McDaniel. Twitter loves him, Hipsters adore him. Mike McCarthy's
got a Super Bowl. He doesn't have a Twitter account.
He's boring. Miami's easier to like. They're fun, they're new,
they're flashy. It's two. It's Mike McDaniel. He's awesome. He's
a hipster. You see his viral stuff. McCarthy he could
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lose a few pounds and he's boring. It doesn't Land
the same. I mean it really doesn't. Like he is
the most boring coach. That's a good coach in the league.
Even Belichick is grumpy but kind of bizarrely privately fascinating.
Why is he so bad now? Why was he so
good then? So I see Dallas blowing him out. I
think Dallas is gonna blow him out. I think they're
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gonna push him around. I think two is gonna get
sacks seven to eight times. I think he's gonna be
running for his life, passes batted down. I'm here to
tell you right now, I think Dallas is going to
go in there and control the football game beginning to end.
And Tyreek Hill have some you know, he'll do some
somersaults in the end zone. He'll have a big player too.
Daron Bland will bite on an out, it'll be an
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out and up, it'll be a chair, it'll be a
touchdown and everybody will celebrate. But the crowd will be
seventy five percent Cowboys. And one team doesn't have to
have a fake guccie bag. They've got a real one.
Sometimes they lose it, but they got a real one.
And I like Dallas, big, big, being ten points, twelve points,
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comfortably in control to a running for his life getting sacked,
Dak time to throw brad Lee Chubb overwhelmed by Tyron
Smith interior offensive line creating big holes for Tony Pollard,
Dak with time to throw to a none. That's how
I see it, Jay Mick with the news.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
No, no, this is the Herdline news.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Wow, I thought you're uh. Your Aaron Rodgers take was
the hottest take you had this week.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
That was spicy. You think the Cowboys smashed that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think listen, score a side double digit win. It
will look. You will watch that game. It's not gonna
be Buffalo Dallas. You're gonna watch that game and go,
oh two is under constant drect that's possible and Dak's
got nothing but time.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Quick note, Zach Martin has a practice this week either
as Tyron Smith the got you just mentioned, so two
starters potentially down.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Tyro against plays, Dak has all data.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Okay, I have a feeling we'll revisit this a little
later in the show. Perhaps let's start with the Eagles
really three straight losses. Jalen Hurts had those weird comments
after the game about commitment yesterday he doubled down on
his comments, but started to shoulder some of the load
on himself.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
All of that starts with me, and that's something that
I that I own, you know, That's something that I
take responsibility in and I've never shot away from. And
so I embraced that challenge. You know what I'm saying,
I've breached that challenge place upon myself and.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
My teammates.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
It's just a situation where we are, you know where
It's just something that we're going through. That's so we're
stuck in. You know, it's it's beauty and all of this.
You know, it's beauty and all of it, and I
embrace every every ounce of it.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, Philadelphia is gonna win thirteen and a half. That's
for a division game. That is an insane line.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yet, especially for a team that's lost three in a row.
But I love the Eagles in this spot. This feels
like thirty to nine or something insane. We've talked about
concern level for the Eagles if Dallas wins that game
against Miami, oh winning that they're still firmly in control.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Like the Eagles do not want to have to go
on the road in the first round. They need that
division win.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I don't know something about Hurts like hat all low
speaking kind of slowly. I wonder is there something brewing
in that locker room. You think three straight law there's
a team that.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Had a lot of s that's brewing. They're angry and
should be because they outplayed Seattle. Philadelphia is mad they
had that game won and gave it up. I think
Philadelphia is gonna come out and put a whooping on
the Giants. I think Philadelphia is good. They're gonna finish
thirteen and four. They're gonna have this mid seat late
season blit because they played the Cowboys and the Niners
and all these tough games. I think they're resolute. I
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think they're focused. I think they're ticked off. I think
they're a little embarrassed how they lost in Seattle. I
think they're embarrassed about that.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, a lot of finger pointing.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Bradbury got lit up that people are going after Sirianni,
Brian Johnson, Jalen hurt Well.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
A lot of finger pointing outside of the organization. There's
no finger pointing in. Sirianni said, it's all on me.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
We don't know that.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It's weird that Sirianni in the in the quarterback are like, hey,
it's on me, It's on me, It's on me, because
maybe they know and some of the guys are starting
to worry, like this is the first adversity this team's
had in.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I mean, what over a year and a half, right, yeah,
because they got a J.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
It's been a honeymoon.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
They've been dominating everyone, and now it's like, ooh, not
going great.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I like the Sixers and the Eagles. I'm gonna start
doing Afternoon Drive in Philadelphia. I'll just talk Sixers and
Eagles and people will love me and I'll have a parade.
I am pro Philadelphia everything. I even like the Phillies.
What's happened to me? Well?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Bryce, Bryce Harper is fun.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well that that he makes a big difference, you know,
Joel embiid huh Okay, Afternoon Drive on ninety six dot five,
that's the new me. Okay when I retired from this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, let's get to the uh the MVP leader Brock Party,
your guy brock Perty you love him? Oh my goodness.
He's been called a system quarterback by a bunch of people.
I don't think you've said that, but other people have. Well,
you know, Kyle Hamilton, the really talented young safety on
the Ravens, he's saying, uhh, that guy's no system quarterback.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
I mean the way around the league is he's a
system quarterback, and I just think that's not true just
from what obviously. And he's making every throw and you
can make as quarterbacks on time, on target, makes good decisions,
he's mobile, and he's got a great cast around him
at the same time. But I mean, yeah, he's really good,
and props to him for he's a pretty cool story
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of what he's done now and he's MVP race, so
it's gonna be a good challenge.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
But I'm excited to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I didn't say it was a system quarterback, which, by
the way, everybody is somewhat of a system quarterback. I
don't think he's a game manager. I think he's good,
but I do think he's good. He's a good flair good,
good good.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Have you looked at that Niners injury report, By the way,
banged up Armstead did not practice, Hargrave, hard Grave, they
did not practice for the other.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Two big dudes in the middle.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, Baltimore will run the ball.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So with those injuries, when this practice report comes out
later today, if those two guys are still not practicing all,
we probably won't play.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I think this will dip down to four. Well we
see a three and a half.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't know blazing five is including this game. I
often avoid the big trap games, the TV emotional games.
I stay away from those. I concentrate on the Saints
and the Titans. But this week I'm going right after
this one.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So last week Gravens go down to Jacksonville, then back
up to Baltimore. Now across the country to San France.
Not ideal called planes.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's okay, I.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Understand, but that that's a lot of travel for December
holiday time.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
You know, you got stuff to do with the whites in.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
My late fifties. I'm flying today, I'll ski tomorrow. It's okay.
They're called plane. I'm not Lewis and Clark here not
scaling now. Baltimore's fine there, Lewis, they're traveling by first
class planes and eating roast beef sandwiches and having frescos.
You think they're okay.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
They're eating roast beef.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
They're eating this is believe me.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
NK Wow, are those your favorite expedition?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Guys always have been top of my list.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I'm a Vasco de Gama.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think I liked him. I sold some of his
stock late. A little quirky for me. Couldn't depend on
like D'Angelo Russell in the playoffs. Couldn't depend on. Speaking
of Russell, I lost too often and this is the explorer.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Sears to the Lakers. DiAngelo Russell last night played a
lot of minutes more than Austin Reeves Jarvan and getting questions.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Lakers lose to the t Wolves. Wolves are good.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
T Wolves are very good.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
They're very good. Their records awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Lakers need Lakers have some problems then and uh after
the loss, Anthony Davis is a little ticked off.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Lebron did not play.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
We know what we can be, We've shown what we
can be, and we're shown that we don't do the
things we need to do to be successful. Then we're
going to continue to be on this side of our record,
which is losing. So sab season then be down. No,
right now, we're in that down period. You gotta continue
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to fight. You play some energy and uhat Saturdays it mustling.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Anthony Davis is doing jazz, fine. They need wing help,
better wing defenders. They need to be a little more
athletic on the wing. This lead this West. Denver's young,
Minnesota's young, Sacramento's young, Portland's young. There's a lot that
the West is getting young very fast. The Lakers tend
to be a tad old. I think they need a
little more hop, a little more twitch on the wing.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
So they play on Saturday, they game he was referencing.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, that's there's another super young, talented team.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
And then they play the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
They're gonna lose that one, so.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
They might lose two more year. And then you start
to wonder, what.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Remember last year? Didn't the Celtics and Lakers play last Christmas?
Is that me and I was sitting there, and.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I believe what I remember. I remember that dinner last.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
No, I remember that case. That was good. Wasn't it
last year?
Speaker 6 (25:02):
That was?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
There was a Lakers Celtic game I watched on a
Saturday night. It was great.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I know we've.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Hyped a lot, but I'm just telling you, Chet Holmgren
is the real deal. No, he's this guy looks off
and Okay, he's good.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
And the Lakers. They got some problems.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Colin currently, they'd be in the plane and it's if
they lose two more we're looking at Oh boy, here
we go.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Very curious what what Darvin.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ham does because you know the front office you're gonna have.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
To do something.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
There's no chance they missed the playoffs is because they're
a lebron two week injury away from being like.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Twelfth in the West.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
This is not ideal for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Right jam Mack with the news.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The herd Line News. By the way, the Bills uh
get a bit of a breather. They face Eastern stick
in the Chargers. This is interesting. Josh Allen so I
yesterday I said some sort of premonition. This is the
best Buffalo team I've seen. They're not nearly as dependent
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on Josh Allen. They feel like a super Bowl team
to me. I worry that Baltimore is falling apart physically.
I really worry about it. In Kansas City's issues are
not going away. Josh Allen leads the NFL with thirty
seven touchdowns. If he scores three more on Saturday against
the Chargers, he'll become the first in NFL history to
have forty touchdowns in four consecutive seasons. Guys so good. Mahomes,
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like Joe Montana or Tom Brady, is a great talent,
but has the necessary elements to be highly productive in February,
the perfect coach, the great owner, cash heavy, franchise stability.
But as a singular force, there is one Josh Allen
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in the league. As a singular force, six six two forty, hyperathletic,
can jump over linebackers. Every tool in the tool belt
is a plus, and size matters. Despite massive violent collisions,
He's rarely even dinged up. Think about this, Josh Allen
is already second all time in quarterback rushing touchdowns. For
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God's sakes, it's year six. He's thirty five percent through
his career. He's not only gonna win that he's gonna
blow I think Cam Newton out of the water. This
is not a knock on Mahomes, who is the most
productive and the currently the best quarterback in the league.
But he's got an A plus owner, an a plus GM,
an a plus coach, the best tight end ever and
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for a while, the best receiver in football, and Tyreek
kill in a highly dysfunctional division with the Raiders. We
don't know who their coach is next year, the Chargers,
Ditto and Denver, they'll figure it out. Good, not great.
Josh Allen year six now with a dependable run game.
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To me, this is officially the scariest team in the AFC.
I've been on Baltimore all year, but we have to
be honest. They lost Mitchell the running back, Ronnie Stanley
left tackle, now rarely healthy. Their top tight end's gone
for the year. They're becoming a little Lamar dependent. This
Buffalo team very interesting. Like them a lot. Michael Irvin's
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going to be around the corner for us. We don't
get Michael often, but it's a big cowboy weekend and
we need to discuss it. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Herd Weekdays and Noone Eastern a em
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 11 (28:51):
Hey, I'm Doug Gottlie. The podcast is called All Ball.
We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's
more about the stories about what made these people love
their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way.
We talked to coaches, we talked to players. We tell
you stories, you.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Download it, you listen to it.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
I think you like it.
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Listen to All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on the iHeartRadio app,
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Speaker 1 (29:19):
Got a lot of stars.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
It's a lot of stars out here, but I love it, man,
and happy holidays to everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You are slim down, you look fantastic.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Well, listen, I went through something this offseason, the fat
to jump off you when you worrying that much too,
trust me, trust me all that gets out of here.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
With that kid to worry.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
But no, I'm good man, I'm good, and I'm just
having a great time this year.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Okay, So we love having you. So I think I
didn't sell my Buffalo stock, or might Cowboy stock. I
do think occasionally if you go up to a Buffalo
with Josh Allen, it's a little wet and rainy, you're
feeling yourself. That thing goes sideways. Even your Cowboy teams.
You would go on the road sometimes and you know
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two series and Michael is over.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
Yeah, well you don't. You don't buy into two series
is over. But two series you'd be like, we are
in the well that this is gonna be something. We
gotta try to figure this one out. You know, it's
going to be that kind of game, and it's going
to take to take everything you got to pull up
out of it. And I saw that with Dallas. You know,
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first of all, you go down they stopped Buffalo and
you get the the DeMarcus Lawrence fag right, so that
you're Buffalo now instead of three, that's seven points. You
get another opportunity. Then you come back, so so you
hold that the three. Then you you hit Brandon Cooks.
You were up seven to three. That was wide open touchdown,
and then you block the punt that I don't know
(30:51):
how that block punt thing happened. How you jumped over
the punt that was being and missed that that would
have been fourteen three. That find the swing right there
in that game, Yeah, means everything.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Everything.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Any chance you had.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
At winning that game, you had to do it right
in the genesis of that game. You had to withstand
that what I called the month soon. Yes of fans
who thinks that if they beat the Cowboys today that
somehow make up for the rings I got in mind
the trophy room right now, it does not.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
I still got them rings. But they came out anyway
and played hard.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah they did. I'll get back to that in a second. Matthew,
I want to talk about Matthew Stafford McVeigh. It's a
flawed team. They don't have an elite defender in their prime.
Pookah is a fifth rounder, Kyraen Williams a fifth rounder.
Higbe a fourth rounder. But when I watch them play
the motion on the offense, the sets Michael, they are humming,
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and sometimes it's belief. I think when I watch the Rams,
I think that offense believes you're not stopping us. They
are risk taking, they are running. I see a confidence reildy.
I think they're a flawed team. Can they win multiple
playoff games?
Speaker 7 (32:11):
And it's just a question and a lot of teams
are flawed and we're finding this out. And what I've
been saying here for the last few weeks is you
can have your flaws, but you better be able to
score points.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Offense is what matters, and the Rams have some offense.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
They're scoring.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
I don't know if they can beat everybody on a
run to a Super Bowl, but they can beat anybody
that's trying to run.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
To a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That's great point.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Anybody that's trying to run to a super Bowl. And
here's the kicker, Well, you were just talking about fourth round,
fifth rounding guys that don't supposed to be here right now,
and they're playing with house winning as a team. As
a team, it's house winning because you're not supposed to
be I think they predicted him before and something on
the five five win team this year, and look at
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him now. And then you got these young players who
don't even know they don't supposed to be doing what
they're doing. They don't know what they don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
What do you make of Pooka now?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Like you?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
He is a big physical kid.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Make smart, smart player, plays hard, make plays that it's
one ball that that he made.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
One play made last night was insane.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
He uses his bosses leverage.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Right, And somebody was talking about that when we were
watching the game, and they said, well, and he pushed
you off. It's no, no, no no, that those are locators.
You know, whenever I put my hand on a person,
I wasn't necessarily pushing him. I was just locating him.
I just want to locate were here. They called a locator.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
You need them.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Locator just locate where they are, got us move them
a little bit and get the ball. He's great at that.
And these are young quarterbacks really playing wide receiver. Him
and Coop and in that mastermind Sean McVay, who is
a master mind.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Yeah, you know, it makes it motion and dangywhere right?
Speaker 7 (34:10):
All the motion movement so your I G gets caught
over here and they come. It's just amazing what the guys,
what they're doing. It's amazing what these young coaches are doing.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So it's interesting people are bailing on Philadelphia. And I've
said this about the Eagles. When you have to have
your defense on the field for ninety snaps in multiple
weeks because their offense is uneven, it's really an offensive problem.
We're all saying defense is the problem, but we know
their defense isn't great. But the problem is their defense
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is on the field for ninety steps. It's Buffalo, it's
Kansas City, it's Dallas, even Seattle they outplayed them end
of the game. Defense is like, we're on the field
too much. I think I think they solve a lot
of their issues with a more even offense. I think
they should go back to what they are heavy Jalen
hurts right the ball, That's what I think.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
But he's not as healthy and you can see it
in his gates. So I can tell you when he's running,
when he's when when he's coming up on guys, he's
coming up, you can see he's he's not the same.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Jalen hurts right now.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
And I think what we're looking at it and were
you losing another game? I think we should be kind
of throwing some praise on this dude because he felt
just like, I can't leave my dudes out here, no
matter how hurt I am.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
He's not.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
He hasn't missed the game.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
He still pops back in there and plays hard for
his team.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
But you can see they're struggling right now. And that happens.
Let me tell you, so each.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
Year we won a Super Bowl, each one of those
years we had like a two game losing streak. We
would always lose one game and I won't say this
is not gonna happen again. We're gonna fix it. We
got it, we got it, and you'll lose another one
and and then you tell spin like, what the what
is going on?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Will you get where Philly is right now?
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Where the coach feels like I have to come out
and say put it all on me, because he sees
that his offense, he sees that.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
His quarterback is taking too much on him. Yeah, it
was smarter him to come on and say, no, put
it on me.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Let's pivot back to the Cowboys. I like them against
Miami for a couple of reasons. I think if Tyron
Smith is healthy, that will give it will mitigate Bradley Chubb,
and it will give Dak a lot of time. I
thought in Buffalo he didn't have the time. They couldn't
run the ball. Then he gets behind Dak trailing, isn't
Dak leading? And I think he'll lead. They'll be comfortable.
I also think they were humiliated physically. They're embarrassed by
(36:36):
it right, and they'll establish physicality early. But it is interesting, Michael,
that they're almost a college team. They're great at home
and collapse on the road. Were you ever on a
team in college or pro that maybe wasn't mature enough?
Road is often maturity. Road is a veteran staff. Sometimes
you know the Cowboys are a glamor franchise. Tuesday Wednesday,
(36:58):
you don't quite put the time in you and I
look at Dallas and I think it's not a lack
of talent, but they're very uneven home and away. Is
it youth? Is it lack of maturity? What is it?
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Well?
Speaker 7 (37:12):
First of all, because we run off with this and
the Cowboys went three and four in the road right now,
it went into last week, I think it was three
and three head and then lost last week three and four,
just just just speaking, if you want it to and
we'll stay sixteen to.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Make it even that's eight and eight.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
If you can go for for on the road and
have the record you have at home, you're having twelve
and twelve and four seasons.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Everybody in the world will sign up for that, you
see what I mean, it'll sign up for that.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
So this is very very very very careful waters that
they have to tread because you absolutely need to make
sure you prove any yourself that you can win games
on the road, and this is your last great opportunity
and you have to prove it to yourself because you're
going to be playing playoff games.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
On the road.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
If things don't fall out absolutely perfect game, it'll take
a miracle almost for you to fall out where you're
having it at home. You know, even though I must
admit last night they gave you a little hope that
with the way that Rams played that maybe you could
have that possibility if Philly falls off and then the
Rams go take care of some business after the Baltimore
(38:24):
take care of the business.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
There's a possibility in there.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
But they have to get their mindset ready to go
on the road, and this is a great opportunity to put.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
All of this stuff shoulders up.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
Behind them and say we beat a good team on
the road and beating Miami. That's why this is a
huge game.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Let's it's the Fox game, late game. Let's talk Miami.
We got a minute to a minute and a half left.
I like them, but I do think I can't see
them going to Baltimore. Too. Cold Weather to Buffalo, it's
just ingrained in me. Miami to even Marinos teams. There
is something about cold Weather, toughness, physicality. Maybe that's part
of the Cowboys problem twenty five years. Do you buy Miami?
Speaker 7 (39:07):
I do I buy explosiveness like that in any current
turn anywhere.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
I'm not the dummy like everybody else.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
In the world who keeps saying that defense is winning championships.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
There's a dummy talking.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
This dummy talk, I can't take it's points. And you
get that on offense mostly now turnover defense.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
I call it that.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
You can bounce has that that's the difference.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
You gotta turn that ball over so I can go
get points, you know. So, so yeah, you can put
up points. They can put up points. Miami's a dangerous
team because of that right there, and they will always
being in.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
That's why this is dangerous for Dallas. They gotta they
get in.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
All that man running with this team with all that
speed they have and all these crawl seeing routes that
this master will design, that this master designer will design plays.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
It's going to be tough for Dallas. They that's why
they got outscored.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
I said earlier it be forty one thirty eight, and
I need that and those guys to just light it up.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Finally a minute left. It's the holidays. Now are you
do you do you buy a lot of gifts for
the fam? No?
Speaker 6 (40:24):
And that's why I was so happy. Man.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
We were almost crying up there when Luwayne gave us gifts. Today,
I buy all the gifts. I don't go shopping for
all the gifts. I don't get any gifts. I tell people,
don't worry about buying me a gift with my money.
Just say happy Erry Christmas. Just save Harry Christmas because
they'll say, I got this gift. Can you send me
ten thousand dollars? I want to get you a gift.
(40:49):
I don't need it. Don't worry, I don't need it.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Well, it's great having you here. Happy holidays to you.
And you've been such a great addition to the network.
In that show. We've been trying to eat for years,
been talking about getting Michael Irvan over here, and we do.
And we absolutely love having you.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Yeah, And I love being here Colin Man, and you
know I love you, man, and come on and talk
with you guys anytime.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
Man. This makes it great. It makes it It really
is just great to be here.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
All right, Get up, go, get on your plane. We
know you're always rushing. You stay here for us on Fridays.
We know you got a plane to catch and we
appreciate it. I'm good, all right, all right, blazing five.
Feel good about it. On a heater. You can walk
in front of the camera. You're Michael Irvan. You're Michael Irvin,
You're You're not a number three possession receiver.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You know,
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