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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome back our number two here on the Herd. It's
a gorgeous Friday morning in Los Angeles. It's me Jason
McIntyre in for Colin Cowhard. I did speak with the
big Guy yesterday. He is enjoying the burning embers of
his summer vacation in Hearts Unknown. I just like saying
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that because they used to announce a wrestling duel from
Parts Unknown. I don't know if you guys remember that. Yes,
I was a huge wrestling fan as a kid. I'm
joined by Alex Curry, who track were you a wrestling
fan or no?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
No, I will say now, I appreciate the art of
it because it is it's art.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
It's acting, and.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I think when you look at it that way, like
it's not you're like, oh it's not real. It's like,
oh no, it's real. These are incredible athletes, but it's theater.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
It's theater.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's theater, so you have to look at it like theater.
And I was a big theater nerd as a thespian
growing up. So like once I think I like equated
it to that, I was like, oh, I get it.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
This is cool. Jake the Sake, Robert Ultimate Warrior. I
don't know very names.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
I know The Rock. I love Dwayne the Rock Johnson,
he's like my fave.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
It seems like a nice guy.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
All right.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Coming up here in like six minutes, Holy cow, we
get an all Pro NFL quarterback, Marlon Humphrey from the Ravens.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
You know, there's a new ranking out.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The best secondary in the league belongs to the Ravens.
Interesting the way they're building it. But we'll talk to
Marlon Humphrey soon.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I want to go here.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
They love to do a good list on this show.
They travel well online, so they came up with j Mac.
We need a six pack of teams that can win
the Super Bowl, and there's a couple obvious ones we'll
get to. I could only find two in the AFC
and four in the NFC. So here's my six teams
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as of right now, early July twenty twenty five, who
can win the twenty twenty six Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Let's start with the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
They had a terrible year last year, but it was
due to injury. Now they get Brandon Ayuk should be back,
although I'm seeing one report he may not start Week one.
We'll see, but you should be a factor when he returns. Obviously,
the young fellow they drafted last year, that Christian McCaffrey
comes back. Trent William still breathing. I think this is
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going to be a great team. The schedule is the
great determinant, with the Niners easiest by far in the league.
They only face three playoff teams from last year. They
don't face any of the top five quarterbacks in the league. Folks,
the Niners are a Super Bowl contender a minimum of
twelve or thirteen wins. Next up, my pick to win
the Super Bowl next year the Buffalo Bills. They've been
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knocking on the door for a few years. Josh Allen
obviously tremendous. They came up a little short in the
playoff game in Kansas City. We will not relitigate the
terrible officiating in that one. Obviously, Buffalo had some self
inflicted wounds. Trying to pull off the tush push brotherly show,
whatever you want to.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Call it, repeatedly and it failed.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
The Bill did add Joey Bosa, not a bad pickup
Josh Palmer from the Chargers Tredavius White. Not sure what
he can give you as like a nickel dime cornerback.
But they also have a very favorable schedule and they've
won the last five AFCAST titles.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Wow, it did not realize that it's been a while
for my Jets. The third team. I think they win
the Super Bowl next year.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
A bit of a dart throw here, Washington commanders so
instantly I get pushback. Well, the Texans had a good
first year with CJ. Stroud, then they fell back a little,
still made the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
I thought Washington.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Adding Laramie Tunzel and Deebo Samuel was just a stroke
of genius. I think is a really good team. I
think they'll push the Eagles in the NFC East. They're
vastly superior to the Cowboys and Giants, and you just
you look at the continuity. Kept their head coach, kept
both coordinators Terry McLaurin told out should be done here shortly, folks.
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I know they got slaughtered by the Eagles in the
NFC Championship game. They will be much better that win
over Detroit in the playoffs. I mean, did Jayden Daniels
making the leap in year two? I'm bullish on Washington.
I think they could win the Super Bowl Team number four, Yes,
you got to go for the Philadelphia Eagles. They are
favored to repeat. I do think it'll be a challenge.
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I would not bet them to repeat. Offensive line is formidable.
Saquon Barkley coming off a heavy usage year scares me
a little bit. You know, I have Jalen Hurts as
the fifth best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
They did lose their offensive core.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
They lost Makai Beckton, Josh Wett, Brandon Graham, Darius Lay, CJ.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Gardner, Johnson. That's like six starters gone.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But the Eagles are gonna certainly be an eleven win
team and there's just too much talent not to be
in the Super Bowl discussion. Next up, Yes, surree, the
La Rams. They are really the arrows super duper pointing
upward for them. They had the best off season. According
to one report. You know they grade the moves. One
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report had the Rams having the best offseason. Adding DeVante
Adams certainly helps. They lose Cooper Cup at DeVante Adams
and Pooka. That is pretty impressive. And they're drafts the
last couple of years. Between Pooka Jared vers Fisk, They've
just hit home run after home run. Is a really
really good team. If the offensive line holds up, they
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should make the NFC Championship.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Finally, my final team of the six pack, they could
win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And it's not just because he's coming up as a
guest here, but Baltimore Ravens number one secondary in the NFL. Obviously,
the Lamar Jackson a Derrick Henry combination.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Is just filthy.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You have to love adding JayR Alexander as like a
dime cornerback.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
They got him on the Chief.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Malachi Starks should form the best safety.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Duo in the league.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I know he's only a rookie, but he and Hamilton
should be really formidable on the back end. If the
wide receivers can stay healthy. I mean, listen, if Mark
Andrews doesn't drop a two point conversion, I don't know
what the Ravens any Super Bowl? Do they beat the
Chiefs on the road? Is a really really good team?
The Ravens will certainly be there. Ken Lamar deliver in January.
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That's the big question. So those are my six teams
that can win the Super Bowl. The Jmax six pack.
They love this photo and look at.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
The Jets on a dinghy?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Is that?
Speaker 7 (06:52):
What that is?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
A dingy?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
An inner tube entertaine? Is safety tube or whatever? Someone
goes overboard, you toss it to him.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You have basics overboard. We're a good fifteen years now.
All right, Let's get to our guest, Marlon Humphrey joining
the Herd, the all pro quarterback from the Baltimore Ravens
at college football legend.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Man?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
How you doing?
Speaker 8 (07:15):
Not that much? Feeling good?
Speaker 7 (07:17):
And joined the last couple of days before I got
to start the real world.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
So I'm feeling good.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah. Let me ask you what was the summer?
Speaker 8 (07:23):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I mean you you've been on a hiatus. Did you
go travel the world? Was you just grinding on football?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
What was going on?
Speaker 8 (07:32):
A lot of golf? A lot of a lot of
leslie nights?
Speaker 7 (07:37):
I just had a well not just had but got
a six month old now, so it's been a different offseason.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Definitely not my norm.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
But I just got into golf, so golf's been greats
football training, and then a lot of family time. We
just got had a family vacation, so it's really good.
But it's been great. Life's been really good.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Real quick.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
On the golf. I find golf a little slow, you know.
I like to up more up dumbos stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
How do you handle that transition? Football fast and powerful
and golf is just like taking it easy.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
Yeah. I became a member of the country club.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
Oh that doesn't have a crazy ton amount of members,
so people are going too slow. I just leave that hole,
go to skip around a lot of different holes. So
I've made it kind of as I don't know if
I'm allowed to do that, so honestly, I might be
telling on myself, but I've made it a little bit faster.
But that is sometimes the bad thing of golf.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
It takes.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
It can take some time to some slower players, and
I feel like, if you're not you're gonna be a
slower player. You at least got to be good, and
most people that are slow are not good. So that
needs to be a new rule for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I hope your wife likes it when you say, hey,
i'll be back.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
In five hours. I'm going to play golf. My wife doesn't. Anyways.
Let's get to the NFL aspect.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
So Pro Football Focus recently ranked the secondaries of the league,
and you guys are number one.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
A is at a surprise, be obvious.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And see, you know a lot of defenses these days,
Marlon are building. Hey, you just need edge rushers, let's
start there. Cornerback is secondary safety, and linebacker forget it.
But you guys are kind of built different from the
back end.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
I think for me, honestly, we were thirty second last year.
I believe last in the league, so rust of the
ranked number one does not really mean anything to me.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
I just would love to not be last. I would
love to be number one.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
That would be amazing, but I'm really focused on what
we just did last year. We got essentially most of
the same guys returning, so I would love to finish
number one.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
That'd be great.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
But I do know right now, the only thing on
my mind is we were the thirty second ranked, and
that was that that's not cool, and that's just not
very good. So I'm trying to fix that before we
even think about being number one.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Toughest quarterback you faced last season.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Oh, the toughest quarterback I faced last season would probably
I mean he.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Faced a lot of good ones. That's a problem.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
Oh Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow, I don't even know.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Yeah, Joe Burrow a surprising second, even though we ended
up winning that game, But I felt we caught them
on the earlier end. Jayden Daniels what, we caught them
pretty early on. But I just remember, I'm like, man
for his got to be a rookie. He was just
so poised, so smooth, seemed like he never was really fazed. Honestly,
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so I think from a young young talent perspective, he's
I mean, he already is a is a star, but
he was He's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
So no mention of Josh Allen there. I don't know
Buffalo fans are going to take that as a slight
or did you you know it was Josh Allen easier.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
To prep for.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
No.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
I think they their game well, going off their playoff
game plan.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
It was a pretty it was a playoff.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Game plan, I felt, and they didn't really have him
do anything crazy that they didn't need to do. They
were I thought their game plan was really good against us,
and they just kind of kept us on our heels
and we just couldn't really.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
We currently make good plays we need to make. I
think you see more.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
I feel like you see a little bit more from
a quarterback in a bad way of when they score
a lot of points on you and either you're ahead
and they're trying to come back, and quarterbacks really got
to just full blown carry the team. But Josh Allen
Bofar managed the game that playoff game and just a
great way. And obviously they beat us, and you know,
we played Jalen Hurts, but that was another to me,
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a simple, simpler game plan. And so there was a
lot of good quarterbacks, but the ones that seemed like,
you know, this guy's pretty good obviously Joe Burrow and
they jaded.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Yeah, let me quickly. You mentioned playoffs, so I'll ask
about it. Listen.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You guys have had some tough endings to the season. Obviously,
you know the loss in Buffalo was just brutal. I'm
just curious what's the mood like after that? Because every
season you guys go and thinking we got a shot
at the Super Bowl and then to come up short again.
I don't know what was a vibe like, do you
remember that day?
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Pretty close?
Speaker 7 (12:17):
It's it's not the best I think it was a
lot of uncertainty. I felt for myself for some of
the other guys to know if you'd they'd be around
the next year, uh, including myself, And so there's a
lot of uncertainty.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
Obviously, you know, teams change every single year.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Felt that you had a really good roster at the time,
So yeah, it was just a lot of uncertainty. It
was a lot of you know, kind of what happened,
you know, what did we do wrong here?
Speaker 8 (12:46):
But it was definitely.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
You know, obviously every year if you don't win the
Super Bowl, to you didn't get the objective. But over
my past eight years, it was definitely a definitely a
different feeling of just it was just different.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I don't know if it was because we felt we
had a good team or what, but if I had to
put into words, it would be just a lot of uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, I don't know if Lamar is a golfing partner,
but I'm sure you get this a lot. Hey Man,
when is Lamar gonna carry you guys one day in
January and I know it win as a team, loses
a team. But he has had some playoff games where
he hasn't been MVP caliber. What do you say to
people when they when they ask you about or maybe
nobody asked you about this.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I don't know, especially I.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Don't get access too often. I think, I, you know,
I have the player. I don't really see it as
a just quarterback only type stat. I know that's kind
of how it is. It's all about, you know, the quarterback.
But I just want to focus on, you know, how
can we help, how can we play better? How can
we win the game. On defense, There's been a lot
of past Baltimore Ravens defenses that have you know, led teams.
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All I know is that the biggest stat is, you know,
we haven't really had I think we've had one ton
over and all of them playoff games.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
So I know it's all about the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Put you know, when you look at the numbers, you
look at the stats, you look at the reality the
Baltimore Das defense hasn't really helped out at all or
even done their part to win some of these playoff games,
and that's kind of the biggest focus on us in
the defensive room this offseason, and that'll be the focus
in training camp practice and it'll translate to games.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
A little inside football. But the JayR Alexander addition, does
this change anything for you? Do you prefer playing on
the inside outside? Does it matter or or because the
secondary is pretty stacked right now, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
It didn't matter to me. I was super excited to
add him to the to the squad. I actually tried
to hit him up on Instagram, but he deleted his Instagram,
so I was like scrambling get his number. And then
by the time I even could get it, I see
him in the building and so I'm like, all right, sweet,
and I talked to him, and I'm just super excited.
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We got a lot of great players in our secondary
of this year. I think the way we want to play,
who plays where matchups we put you know, all our
best guys in the field.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Yeah, I'm just super excited it.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
I think you just can't go wrong adding a guy
like that.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
And so I'm really excited for this your secondary and
excited us to just.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
Make a lot of plays and hopefully he'll he'll help.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Like I said, with getting those turnovers in the playoffs.
You've done it before and I look forward him doing
it again.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Let me quickly ask you.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I noticed you played in twenty fifteen at Alabama on
a loaded team with Derrick Henry.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Is that the most.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Dominant team you've ever been on or was there a
Ravens team you felt that was more dominant because you guys,
I'm looking at the results twenty fifteen. You guys just
eviscerated almost everybody.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
We Yeah, it would be it would be hard.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
I have been on the number one defense in the NFL,
but that that that that Alabama team was just next level.
I think everyone on the starters ended up getting drafted
into the NFL. You're giving it all that Derek Henry
forty times a game. Nobody could stop it. So there
was there was It was. It was obnestly pretty crazy
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to look back from that team, and you know, obviously
the next year we end up losing a Clemson, but
it would have been great to repeat. But that that,
that's the fifteen team. It was just it was just loaded,
and I don't I don't know if there were that
domination is can only be done really at the college level.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
But that was that was a great year.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, all right, we could wrap up. You got a movie,
Nothing but a Winner. It's a documentary tell us about
it being part of the process. What's that been like
and any comparisons to football.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Yeah, so it was great.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
I executive produced Nothing but a Winner, me and my sister,
she's the actress in La. It was a great opportunity
that got presented to me and I was able to
be a part of it, kind of have inputs here
and there and different things. It's basically just about, you know,
the history of two great coaches at that happened to
be at the universe Alabama. Some of the wins, some
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of the you know, ugly losses, the kick six for
Harvard fans out there.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Tune in to see the hat and you know kind of.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
How Bama came a hard to be, you know, with
segregation and different things. First you know, athlete African American
athlete at the university.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
So a lot of different things going on with it.
But it's just basically a.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Documentary about just greatness, how it form, the process of it,
all the great things that kind of is in the
rich history of Alabama football and just winning coaches. That's
the biggest thing is you can take away with your
Alabama fan, not Alabama fan. It's just really a a
documentary about just something great and it'll be out soon
and it'll be it'll be really good.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, it sounds like July thirty first in theaters. Congrats
on that. I'm curious. A lot of people look to
set themselves up for a post career. You just turned
twenty nine, so you got a ways to go. But
is Hollywood where you want to go next? Or you
know a lot of guys transition to the media, or
you could, you know, do what Cam Newton's want to
just start a podcast and trying to go rebel rouse
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that way?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
What do you think in post career?
Speaker 8 (18:07):
I had a lot of different thoughts. Media was one.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
You know, Hollywood would be would be awesome if I
if I chose that route.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
There's you know, that's something I kind of think about.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
You know, obviously, you do football for a long time
and you're you kind of figure out what do you
want to do after There's so.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
Many different ways you can go.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
But I would love to, you know, I always wanted
to direct a movie. I always wanted to play in
a movie, So I've always wanted to do something around
that space, maybe not full time. But the cool thing
about all that is that's something you can do and
do something else. But media, Hollywood, all those things are
kind of things that interest me and just we'll just
have to see when what happens when I when I
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retire with the wife says, you know she will, So
I always have a big part in that. I wish
I could be a pro golfer. If I could do that,
I would that would be the biggest one. But I
think I missed too many reps when I was six, seven,
eight years old.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
You can't get back, and so.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
The best I can do now is maybe break eighty
one day of my life and I'll consider that my
super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Hey, let me ask one more things. I just was
watching those highlights and I thought about something. So Travis
Hunter is coming into the league as an elite cornerback
and wants to play both ways. I'm assuming in high
school you were playing both ways and dominating. But Marlin,
my big thing. The second he said this, I was like, okay,
so you got to play the Ravens, so you got
to go tackle Derek Henry and space then go to
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the sideline and come back on and run a bunch
of passa That's impossible.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
How on earth is he going to be able to
do this?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
And I'm just curious your thoughts on on did you
play two ways in high school?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
And yeah? Is this mission impossible for Travis Hunter?
Speaker 8 (19:39):
I think, you know, he is very talented. I think
he's me watching.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
I think he's a really really elite DV based off
the you know, a couple of games I saw this
past year.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
But to do both it seems very mission impossibles.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
You know. I think Dion obviously did a little bit
of it, you know, back in his day, but I
I think the game has changed so much since then.
Dion was clearly light and day the fastest guy out there. Nowadays,
everybody's fast, you know. I think of Jason Kelsey, that
dude's running up on you just as fast as as
that receiver tight end. So I think he's really got
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a tough challenge ahead. I think eventually he will realize, man,
it's really really hard to do this at a high
level where every week you're playing.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
A top NFL team.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
It's not like college, where you know, there is teams
on everyone's roster, where it's like this should be a
pretty easy game, and that's just not the case in
the NFL. And I think he'll I hope he has
success with it, and I hope he just decides it's
just too much for me as opposed to you know,
he kind of struggles with it. But I definitely think
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he has the ability to do it, but I more
just think the stamina.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
To do it. I don't know if anyone has that
to do it.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
For You played with Derek Henry in college.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Now he's your teammate, have you I'm just curious, have
you ever tackled him? What?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like?
Speaker 8 (21:06):
The problem is he's so tall.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
A lot of times you go low, his knee will
actually hit your head, and it's it's a lot He's
this stuff.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Got to tackle.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
He's a somehow, I don't know how he gets stronger
and faster in the fourth quarter while everyone else seems
to be fatiguing. And I think that gives him a
lot of his advantage. But his exception speed. He's so tall,
he's getting on the edge faster than what you think.
And if you if you don't go now, it's it's
bad and his stiff arm will throw you around, but
it's rough.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
It's something at the corner you think I shouldn't be
doing this. I don't want to do this. A linebacker
delone should be doing this.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
But when you do, got to do it, you gotta
you gotta run your feet, try to close your eyes
and try to get him down.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Yeah, good stuff, Marlin Humphrey.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Check out his movie Nothing but a Winner end of
this month in theater's congrats on everything man, and good
luck this year.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Yes, yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
All right, Marlon Humphrey, who's a budding golfer, who knew,
I had no idea, but I hope Travis Houner was listening.
Did you I mean, did you hear Did you see
the reaction, Alex? He almost started laughing. He's like, yeah,
that's mission.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
It's hard. I mean again, like you.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Never wanted to ter someone from reaching a crazy goal
that we've never seen before. I mean, people le have
to show Hey Otani when he said he was going
to be a power hitter and an ace pitcher. Obviously
it's way different on your body baseball compared to football.
But again don't knock it until you try it. I
think that's kind of most players' reactions are going to
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be what Marlin's reaction was. But again he's very impressed.
Producer Golfer like like, that was a good.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Interview, Charland. I'm pretty fun coming up next.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Terry McLaurin has made Commanders fans a little uneasy this
offseason due to a contract dispute. Alex will have the
latest next year on The Herd.
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Speaker 5 (23:47):
Back here on the Herd. Good stuff from Marlon Humphrey.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And I think that SoundBite on Travis Hunter not going
both ways the wide receiver dB, I think that's probably
one of the smarter things I've heard from an NFL
player this summer.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Travis, just be smart, man.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
You could be dominant at one, you can't be dominant
at the other. I heard, Alex, I heard a really
smart thing. I got one kid going into high school, yeah,
and one kid in middle school, and someone smart told me,
you know, Jay, in high school, there's three things. You
could be good at academics, you could be good at athletics,
or you could be good socially.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
You can't be good at all three. You can pick two.
It's impossible to be good at all three, and no,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
How can you excel academically, athletically and socially going to
parties all the time.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Being a.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
What do you?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I did?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You got like a great great grades and every in
and you played sports and socially.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I did, Wow, you can do anything. You maybeicorn Alex.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
You don't do anything you put your mind to.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Jay, that's the mentality.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Yes it is, well, I mean again, yes it is.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
We're talking about like and.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Again, I don't know what you're I didn't get a
great GPA in high school, but my kids will.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I was the oldest though.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I had to set an example, and like, I didn't
get certain benefits unless I had good grades, played soccer
and I yeah it was a social well so.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Good grades now versus when we well, you're not as
old as I am, but when I would like I didn't.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Even have a three oh two point five.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah, that that doesn't get you in anywhere now if
you don't have like a four oh, Well it did
back in the day. And like I got in good
schools without a three oh. I don't mind admitting that.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Sorry to my parents listening, they were crestfallen, but like
now you got to have like a four oh because everybody.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Else has a four right now.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
And I also maintained that through college too.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
That's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
I was strict, work hard, play hard. Always been my mentality.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, I think with Marlon Humphrey and Travis Hunter, like
just do one don't like Deon did punt.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Return and seeing so like you don't want to like
put someone down before they even try something, like let
him try and let him figure it out on his own,
because if you force someone and tell someone they can't
do it, you're you're crushing a possibility of something that
can be great. Let him come, like he's going to
figure it out pretty quick because it's a different game
in the NFL from college.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
That's the problem in the NFL, Like, hey, go figure
it out, Go tackle Sae Kwon Christian mccatt and you
get hurt and you kind of ruin the freshman year,
rookie year. It's just just more at stake in the NFL.
Trying to do both. Dion return punts.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
It was excellent.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Who knows though he might be able to do it, Like,
don't tell someone you can't do it until you at
least let them try.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
If I were the Jags, I would tell him you
can't do that. I know, all right, Alex with the news,
turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Oh, we're going to start in.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
The NFL with one of your six pack super Bowl
teams that you just talked about. The Commander's wide receiver
Terry McLaurin, has been one of the NFL's holdout this
off season, coming off the best year of his career.
In the veteran skipped mandatory mini camp in June, and
one of the franchise's legends is speaking out in his defense,
with Joe Thaisman wanting a quick resolution.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Take a listen, that would be a.
Speaker 10 (26:58):
Major problem for all of us, but appreciate what the
Commanders have done with Terry has done. Terry's a dear friend.
He's just a great young man, a great leader. You know,
you talk about intangible, his his intangibles and his value
to this football team are even more outweighed, i should say,
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than his talent, which we know is extreme.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
He needs to be paid. He needs to be paid
right away.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
We need to put.
Speaker 10 (27:25):
This issue behind us as a football team. He is
one of the leaders, and he's a guy that you
can always count on. You can always count on him
in practice, you can always count on him in a game.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Joe's pitting facts right there now.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
The thing is is he's currently making about fifteen point
five million this year, and he's looking for a contract
that would put him at the thirty million dollar range.
It's still not top wide receiver money because you still
have what March is just Jefferson, Ceede Lamb, he camcaf
aj Brown all making more than him.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
That would put him in the.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Saint Brown, Tyree Kill, Brendan Ayuk all making thirty mil.
And there's also a couple of things to consider here,
right because Jaden Daniels was still on his.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Rookie deal, so you have the ability to.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Pay him because eventually you're going to have to pay
Jaden Daniels the big bucks. And we saw how great
he was with Jayden in his first season. You don't
want to take away a top weapon from a quarterback
going into his sophomore year. We saw what happened was CJ.
Stroud when he lost Nico Collins for multiple games and
his second year like this, this is what he's familiar with,
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This is what made him successful in his first year.
And again like if he's earned the money, he's had
five straight one thousand yard seasons, career high thirteen touchdowns
last season. The only thing I think kind of working
against the Commanders and I was thinking about this when
you were talking about them and your your six pack
of Super Bowl teams is they had the factor that
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no one knew what to expect.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Last year, there was a lot of.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
New new head coach, quarterback, new OC like everything was new.
Now everybody has a year year of tape on these guys.
You're not surprising anybody like you. You're one of the
guys that have the bullseye on your back. You were good,
and you were really good, and now people are gunning
for you. So you need all the health that you
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can get and everybody that made.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
You successful last year.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yes, they added Deebo Samuels, so that's also going to
be a great addition. But you want to give Jadan
Daniels every weapon that.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
He can have. Right now, the only thing I.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Can see that's holding this up is he's twenty nine,
turns thirty in September, and unlike the NBA, you get
to twenty nine, it's like, oh, I don't know, you maybe.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Have a couple of good years's that's the best career
of his story. Are you paying for past performance or future?
Speaker 4 (29:46):
That's usually what you're paying for, But also like he's
if you're at your peak, this is when you can
pay the guy.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Yeah, and Jadie needs them. I think give the guy
a three year deal. You can't let him go into
the season.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
With no no future money because you get hurt or something.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, and you want them there for trading camp, like
you need to figure that it'll get shorty. Yeah, this usually.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Happens in the NFL. It's like, what's going on. Okay,
It's fine.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
It's their only it's their only source of power these players.
As you hold out, it's what you have to do.
So I think they get it done. They should get
it done. They need to get it done if they
want to be that same team that they were last year.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
But let's head to the NFC South.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
The Falcons are giving Michael Pennick Junior the reins for
this season after making him the starter for the final
three games last year. Now, despite not getting a ton
of starts under his belt, Penis is not looking to
make twenty twenty five an extended rookie campaign and knows
that all the matters is winning.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Post She's okay, she's seeing like the dirty bird and
nests and like all the little highlights on fans.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
It's like, man like they get rocking whenever we win it.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
So like, I definitely want to get back to that,
you know, when win a football game, so we can
have the city turn.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Falcons havevin't had a winning record since twenty seventeen. Yeah,
that's brutal positives is you know, penex is saying all
the right things. This is what you want to hear, like, yeah, obviously,
like you want to get to the playoffs, you want
to win a game, you want to do all these things.
But also like the Bucks have kind of run the
NFC South since Tom Brady when he was there. When
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he left, they still have Kirk Cousins on that roster
on the bench. Have you been watching quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
A little bit? You know, we touched on Kirk yes, true, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Yeah, interesting. So there's an interesting energy in that quarterback room.
But can they will they return to the bull I
think they win the division, you can still.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Win over the Bucks. Bucks just brought everybody back.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
They did, except you know.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
And they took less money to bring everybody back. Like
we were talking about, if you want to maintain the
guys on your team, no matter what sport you're in,
you're going to have to take less money.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
They literally are like.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Doing the Tom Brady Patriot way is what the Bucks
are doing.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Except oc Cohen and he's really good. Now, I know
Baker's dealt with that before. Yeah, I'm just looking at
the Falcons defense. They got a pretty nice defense. They
got to just get after the quarterback, that's it. And
they got two guys in the draft that they hope
one of them can deliver. We'll see, I'll go Falcons
over the Bucks in eight nine.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
It's gonna be close.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Bucks over the Falcons.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Yeah, I mean that Bucks have pulled it off with
the last two years. I'm pretty sure three.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Maybe three Yeah, Yeah, But like I said, like since
they've had Tom Brady, they've run that division even after
he left. Okay, let's wrap things up with Baseball. All
Star Game is right around the corner with the game
Tuesday at eight eastern on Fox. Fanatics has put out
their top ten best selling jerseys since Opening Day, and
the Dodgers leave that list holding three of.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
The top five spots.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
I mean, obviously no surprise, Shohyo Tawny at the top,
Freddy Freeman at number three, and Riki Betts at number four.
Aaron Judge is at number two, which, yeah, you two
MVPs training MVPs one and two. But I mean, I'm
not surprised here. The Dodgers have three superstars to the champs.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
They're winning team.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Can like they still like what we were talking about yesterday.
I haven't checked after last night if they still have.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
The best record in baseball.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Yeah, it might.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
They didn't play, they didn't play after day.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I think it's the Uh No, they are narrowly the best.
Oh no, I'm sorry Detroit Tigers, which is wild. Did
Detroit have anybody on that on that list?
Speaker 11 (33:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (33:29):
How do the Cubs do not have anybody?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
No superstars, you need superstars. These are guys that are
not just superstars. But like obviously with Otani the face
of the league, everything that he does and is doing
is breaking records and creating history of Freddie Freeman who
had that insane Grand Slam walk off to to win
a playoff game. And then Mookie no matter where you
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put him, he's gonna he's gonna do great.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
In that none of those top guys have been on
the same team for several years now.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Usually the top one.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Of the top selling jerseys is a guy changes team,
so everybody gets a.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Jersey well, I mean twenty twenty three, Otani has sold
more jerseys than any other in the US. Yeah, Oh
it's just US, No in the US, Japan and worldwide.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Okay, so I'm seeing it here.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Tigers have six All Stars, but none of the top
selling jerseys.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
No, it's also a smaller market like LA is the
top market, and Dodgers are one of the top brands
and franchises in baseball.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
So it's like you kind of have like everything going
for you.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
You have the star power, top market, the LA brand
like this, it's iconic. I'm biased, though, so slightly.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
With the news, well, that's the news, and thanks for
stopping by The.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Herd Line News.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
You know, Cowhard raves about the staff we got here.
These guys are funny. So coming up next we have
a very funny segment that I think Alex is going
to love.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
We'll do that next here on the Earth.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays
in neon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
FS one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
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or the Rangers take on the Astros. Check local listenings
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eastern on Fox.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
There should be a good one, all right.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So Jalen Hurts has written a children's book. I don't
know if you guys are aware of this. It's titled
Better Than a Touchdown. So our crack staff saw that
and was like, oh, and Alex is pregnant.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
She's going to be reading a lot.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Why don't we show Here's the cover of the book
on on FS one Better than a Touchdown.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Written by Jalen Hurts. Pretty cool. Hey, who doesn't love
a good children's book?
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I love a good children's Oh gosh, so good.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
So here we go.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
We've got some book ideas for Alex that you'll be reading,
and they're kind of humorous.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Okay, I have no idea.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Oh boy? Everyone has heard of good Night Moon? Everybody?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yes, as a classic right which your child will sleep
better when you read good Night Goat, a bedtime story
about putting AFC opponents to sleep, featuring Andy Reid and
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Good Night Goat like that one?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well?
Speaker 7 (36:25):
You like that?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Everyone knows what happens if you give a mouse a cookie.
Another classic you can in your sleep. We got a
young staff here. I can't believe they're aware of these,
but this story is about what happens if you give
a quarterback a giant contract and if you get some
of that same ending every January, if you give a
quarterback one hundred and sixty million, little harsh Jack, Prisca.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
But we just talked about this. This is one of
the stories. It's like, you're the highest paid quarterback.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
You need to perform. We need to playoff. Okay, listen.
There's a lot of famous children's books.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Obviously Doctor Seuss The Places They'll Go, that's famous. Everybody
knows that one. But you need to remind your kid, Alex,
what happens when you get drafted by the Bears.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Oh, the hits you'll take.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson feature prominently in this one. Now, Alex,
I gotta warn you you may have an unruly child.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yeah yeah, surety Is. I have one's kind of she
rages in my belly all day, but it has to.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
It will remind you of the classic where the wild
things are fat? And how about the better story about
a misunderstood quarterback who finds his way to the end
zone where the wild throws are. Yes, Sean McDermott, and
look at the Buffalo Bills, gear billse are gonna win
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Just putting that out there, all right, Alex.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Next up, you'll be teaching your kid about Curious George.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Love me some Curious George, but what.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
About his shadowy guru who questions the moon landing? The
man of the Low conspiracy at with Aaron Rodgers on
the cover and his mustache. Written by Mike Tomlin. That's
gonna be a big winner. Now, Obviously, I'm sure you
know The Very Hungry Caterpillar, very popular book. But before that,
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there is a love story that's also a cautionary tale,
The Very Calculated Caterpillar.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
I just left that one set out there.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
See who's featured on the Apple Belichick, And I'm not
gonna mention I'm gonna get.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
In trouble for that one.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Finally, that covers the world of football, but we don't
want her to miss out on other sports. You've read
Everyone Poops teaching children the nature of.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Things, but this one is about pooping. It's about hooping.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Especially if you're from Serbia, Slavania, Greece or even Canada.
That's more than okay, everyone hoops by Adam Silver his
new league featuring international stars. And finally everyone knows this
fantasy series. But when there's a little older your kid,
she's gonna love this version.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
About the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
A team's so rich in talent, they'll hunt for one
ring to rule them all forever. The Lord of the
Rings with Otani Dave Robert took you that that looks
like a winner.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
You're definitely gonna read that one.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
So just some some good children's reading, fair Alex. That's
what you'll be doing most of the rest.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Of this year.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Yeah till November.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
So it's like good like football coming back just in
time when things get interesting in the football season.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Those first few months.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I think I've told the story on air, but yeah,
when you're checking out of the hospital, they just hand
you your baby and they're like.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
See you later. I'm like, whoa wait, wait, wait wait,
I'm on my own.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
What do we do?
Speaker 4 (39:52):
So, you know, and you just start to forget everything
that's kind of been like my entire life is like
I don't know, I didn't go to broadcast school, like
I didn't do all this. I was just like, oh, yeah, no,
I'll figure it out.
Speaker 11 (40:00):
It is.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
We're just gonna go.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
We're just gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
See, don't tell someone they can't do something. That goes
back to our last conversation.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
But you're now responsible for another human yourself.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Hey, I can figure it.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Out, but I gotta say it anyways, all right, we'll
go quickly back to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
So Mark Medina came on earlier.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
We covered the Cooper Flag aspect of Cooper Flag versus Bronni.
Mark Mendina, I thought I saw a different Bronnie. It's
very limited, he's not, you know, playing heavy minutes. But
he was in the G League last year. I saw
a different Bronni last night. Here's a Mark Medina talking
about Bronnie against Cooper Flag.
Speaker 11 (40:35):
From what you saw last year and Brownie's Summer League debut,
he's a lot more aggressive, He's a lot more decisive.
He was really gained into it with Cooper Flag trying
to size him up defensively despite having that size disadvantage.
What this means for next season, who knows. He didn't
get a lot of playing time beyond that debut with
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Lebron James opening night, but there is a pathway for
him to at least be at the end of the
rotation because he has a great practice player. He's all
about the right habits, and he doesn't have any kind
of sense of entitlement, even though you know Lebron is
his dad. He is very coachable and is someone that
really tries to, you know, chip away at his different weaknesses.
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But the biggest thing that he's trying to really lean
on with his calling card is defense.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Yeah, and I totally agree.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I think that's a great take from Mark, Like, that's
got to be what Bronni does. An energizer, offensive guy,
pushing tempo and a defensive factor. And I saw friend Forscila,
the great NBA analysts, had an interesting tweet yesterday. There
were only twelve players under six feet tall in the
NBA last season. Guys, Bronni's only six to one, and
(41:47):
that might be generous. So he's on like the smallest
end of players in a big person league.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
So you've got to find a way to fit in.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I don't know how he pulls that off yet, And
compounding matters will be this Lebron situation as we talked about,
you know, right before the show came on. I mean,
something happened with Lebron and he's just unhappy with the Lakers.
And now it's like, well, I asked you to get
me the coach that I wanted, I got it.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
I asked you to draft my son and I got it.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
But now I'm unhappy with what's unfolding now, and it's like,
it's just a weird spot for Lebron. I'm sure it's
a weird spot for Bronni. I'll ask you, guys, Let's
say Lebron plays his final year and then retires, what
do you do with Bronnie? Do you keep him on
the roster? Lebron's out here anymore? Like it's a tough spot.
His window all of a sudden is shrinking to like, dude,
(42:39):
you got to make it happen in the next Like
I don't know, twelve months, it's getting difficult for Bronni
and I don't like the Lebron vibes, but I do
think everything's.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Gonna be fine, all right.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Coming up final hour of the Week, were talking a
little Cooper Flag and a new report on Lebron and
the Lakers. It's not great.