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January 3, 2025 43 mins

Covino & Rich are in for Colin Cowherd! They react to their Kelce cereal taste-taste. 'RICH'S BIG TV GAME OF THE WEEK' gets you set for NFL Week 18! LeBron & the fellas' 20-year run together. Is there a chance that Tom Brady is one & done in the booth? Plus, HERDLINE NEWS & anti-Yankees scruff!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise, surprise. Oh what's up, buddies. Now, let
me use this as an opportunity to say, hey, if
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(00:46):
you even have a bonus podcast called over Promise because
blabbermouth Davis over here always over promises things we never
have time for because we do a two hour show.
So we have a bonus podcast that you could watch
on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page, or you could just
again listen wherever you stream over Promised with Cavino and Rich,
and we really dove into that CROCS discussion on over promise.

(01:09):
So if you want more catch Over promised Fox Sports
Radio's YouTube page. Yeah, yesterday's bonus pod. We also talked
about all the incentives in the NFL Week eighteen, which
brings up another conversation we're gonna have today about if
life was incentive based, because I think Geno Smith and
Mike Evans, among other players have a hell of a

(01:30):
lot to play for Sunday and something else we did
on over Promised. We tried the Kelsey mixed cereal and
we were talking to Danny g and Music about this
before the show. I wanted to hate it because I'm like, oh,
the Kelsey's They're everywhere. His wife's now got the number
one podcast. You know, Jason's. The Kelsey's are in your

(01:52):
face more than ever. So you sort of wanted to
hate the cereal. What do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
What do you think we liked it? Of course we did.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I hate it, but I congratulated cinnamon toast Crunch, Lucky
Charms and Reese's Puffs together.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah, there was sugar involved. How is Rich not gonna
like that?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, Danny, I thought there was no way the cinnamon
toasty goodness would vibe with the peanut buttery Reese's mixed
with the marshmallowy greatness of lucky charms. I'm like, that's
just too much going on. And at first it hits
you and you taste the peanut butter, and then the
cinnamon kicks and you're like, o ah, right, this sort
of all compliments itself, and you're.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Like, dang it, they did it. I can't believe it.
I hate these guys. I hate how good it was. Yeah,
it was good.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'm just surprised you guys thought that they like grabbed
a box of grape nuts put the Kelsey's on it,
and you're like, oh, this is gonna be terrible. It's
all the best cereals. Why wouldn't it work? Yeah, honestly,
And you don't even need to be drunk or high
to appreciate it. It was I had it yesterday morning
in Mouth. You have to be drunk or high to
come up with the idea. And that's what makes you
want to vomit, because you got these two goons who

(02:56):
were probably high or one of their goofy college friends
probably did this because they were running out of other
cereal and other options. And then they pissed it to
General Mills and General Mills said, great idea. This is
something your dumb college friend would do three random cereals.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's like the invention of the everything bagel.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
If people don't know that on Long Island, back of
the day, a drunk bagel shop owner went with his
buddies to the shop after hours, probably out of their mind,
drunk or high or something, started dipping the bagels and
all the remnants that had been used throughout the day.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Tadah, the everything bagels.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
How the fat darrel and all those fat sandwiches were invented? Yeah,
I'll have a chicken parm and yeah, throw some cheese
sticks on it. Yeah, yeah, throw some bacon. I mean
they know how trail mix was invented, right heh, Dad
just shook out the car seat in in the back
of the minivent.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
True story. Yeah there's pena. No, there's an eminem as.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
True story all right, So somehow it worked and if
you want to again be part of that again, over
promised on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. Enjoy your Kelsey mix. Yeah,
this weekend when you're watching cars tunes, you know what, Uh,
let's have It's up to Joe, who's calling from Pa
Covino and Rich in for the herd.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
What's up, Joe?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Joe?

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Uh, all right, Well we're still trying to figure out
these phones.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, we're working out the cow herd phones. It's all good.
Eight seven twenty twenty five. Phones for the calls anyway,
text me yeah, eight seven seven four eight four three
four three seven are easier. Hit us up at Covino
and rich the most inclusive, most interactive show on radio,
according to US.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
What's the chance you pick up your phone to an
unknown number? No chance? No, I don't pick up face times.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Ever.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
I'm allergic to face times. I don't do that. Sinteresting
someone face.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
There's a lot of things today that could be handled
on text, and you're the biggest culprit of bothering me.
Like when you could easily set a text, you're calling
me all the time. You know how many times I
put down the phone and my girlfriends say who is that?
It was Rich And she's like, he could have texted
you that, and I'm like, yep, he could have, but
he decided to call.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
What you're doing is out there to mind your own business.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
It's true.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
It's I feel the same way. I'm like, you could
have texted that. Well.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I think if someone face times you though, you have
to pick up because it's one of two things. It's
someone that really just wants to see you.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
What do you do? What do you look good enough
to pick up? FaceTime?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Absolutely a lot of times if it's a random If
it's a random person, it's usually they bumped into someone else,
you know, right, and it's like, oh.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
My god, you know covinos. So do I.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yo, let's FaceTime And you missed out on a fun
opportunity and I'm happy about it. You think when I'm
lamping there in my natural habitat on the couch looking lazy.
You think with my bed heead, you think I want
to see somebody? You're out of your mind. No thanks,
I'll be okay. Missing that face time enough. So the
phone number again if you want to call an interact

(05:52):
eight seven seven four eight four three four three seven.
Now it's time we do this every Friday for Riches
Big TV Game of the Week.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
You should hit my fat up. I got an extra TV.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
The game game that I will have you Riches Big
TV Game of the Week.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
It's Rich's Big TV Game of the Week.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Hey, Rich, you want to explain, well, KE mean, because
TVs are so damn cheap. And I say that respectfully
to be honest. Truth is, you go to Walmart, Target,
best Buy, anywhere. I saw like a sixty inch TV
for under three hundred bucks, and I said, you know what,
let me get a couple of TVs. Can I explain
why to my living room? On I wheel them in

(06:35):
and out on Sundays. It's not that everything else got
more expensive and TV's got cheaper. You're just buying a screen.
You're buying a monitor. There's no tuner in the things
that you're buying. It's not necessarily a TV. It's just
just a screen. Who needs a tuner? You're gonna tell
you we're talking about not answering phone calls and texting.
But I'm saying why they're so cheap because they're just

(06:55):
a monitor. At this point, that's really it. That's all
you need, right pretty much? Smart you got everything you need.
So point is I wheel in the big TV. So
I have multiple TVs going on Sunday? What gets the
big screen? Because the other TV has the four boxes
for Sunday ticket, my TV has the octobox. I can't

(07:15):
watch Red Zone. My add is blazing too much. I
would I would be pacing like a maniac. So this
week is a rare week. I'm not saying I'm killing
our segment, but there's nothing worthy of the big TV
except for Sunday Night. Vikings Lions is worthy of a
conversation in itself.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
But every other game, I think, I know you want.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
To watch Geno Smith simply based on the incentives he's
playing for. Yeah, you're gonna see some of these players
balling because of their incentives. Gino Smith is playing for
six million dollars in incentive bonuses, so you know that's
that's major money. You're gonna see some big numbers being
put up. But every every game of interest to me,
there's a there's a rub, you know, like, oh, man,

(07:58):
I want to watch Steelers Bengals, but it's on Saturday,
so you don't need to be worried about other games.
And the Bengals win and you'll be all excited, like, oh,
Joe Burrow's got a chance, and then Kansas City sits
the whole team and Denver will win and be in
and I think I think the sentiment is that we
should all root for Carson Wentz I'm sorry, Denver. I
don't want to hurt your feelings, but if we root

(08:21):
for the Chiefs to win, who do you rather see?
And God, I don't want my friends and family in
Colorado to hate on me. Sorry Bo Nicks, Sorry sorry
Sean Payton. Who do you rather see in Round one?
Joe Burrow? I know the defense of Cincinnati's not great,
but don't you want to see Joe Burrow sneak into
the playoffs?

Speaker 6 (08:40):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah, and he's earned it.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
So maybe one of those games you throw on the
big TV on Sunday is Denver in Kansas City. And
for some reason you hope that Carson Wentz shows that
you know he still got to he's got the juice.
So actually this is your segment, rich right, because you're
the one with two TVs days.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Brag about it all the time.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Never brag you the reason heels his TV and like
he's the av guy in your junior high class. He's
so proud of it. And I want to say, you
use the entire day just to take down your Christmas decorations. Yeah,
this is the Sunday you casually watch and you take down.
You tell your wife or girlfriend that you choose them

(09:21):
over football this week because starting next week when wild
card weekend kicks in, right, it's could be wild brou
So my advice is you don't even need to wheel
out your second teav I take down your decorations, right,
you pick the tree away all that stuff, and then
you use your one TV for the Vikings Lions later

(09:42):
on that night. Like in my opinion, you don't even
need the second TV this week. So segment diad no,
But but I think you go, you know, Bengals, Steelers.
You know, you could argue Steelers aren't gonna necessarily play everyone,
but I think it's fun to see what the Bengals
could do. And again and given Sunday, it's not like
it's not like Denver is a shoeing, but they are

(10:04):
favored by double digits because Andy Reid they are just resting.
But hey, you never know, right, So the games in Denver,
which is another advantage Broncos. Keep an eye on that
one because it's the only game that would make any
playoff scenario fun. And in the NFC South Falcons and
the Bucks should both win easily, but the tiebreakers, you know,

(10:27):
the Bucks you know are in if they win so
no real fun Week eighteen. But Sunday night, I want
to go around the room, don't. I don't want your prediction.
I want who you want to win? Oh wow? Because
the Lions and Dan Campbell, that was like the feel
good story of football in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Last year they got caught up.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know, the Niners shouldn't have won that game NFC
Championship Detroit. Let that slip away, some decisions in the
second half. I don't think the Lions have that likability
factor this year. I want to see that Minnesota Vikings
win the Vikings at Detroit. Potential coaches of the year
get the head. I want five seed, you dude, there's

(11:08):
so many ramifications here, so many great reasons to watch.
I don't know, you know, I really do love you
know what My dad has ingrained in me to never
kiss ass. Oh you think I'm kissing asking it's the
bosses a Vikings fan, But I was just gonna say,
maybe it's in our best interest to kiss some ass
and say, hey.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Isn't our boss a Vikings fan. I don't care about that.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
We predicted Sam Donald and the Vikings on our Covino
and Rich Afternoon Show.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Prior to the season starting.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
It doesn't I think you could say, Anny, I think
you could say I want the Vikings to win. And
I love the fact that our boss is a fan,
and I love the Sam Donald's story.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Without hating on the Lions, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Like they're a great story. I like Dan Campbell, I
like GoF I like that team. I like their fight.
But there's something, there's a soft spot Rich that I have,
honestly for the for the Viking story at Detroit, it
would be cool to see them with I want the
NFC to go through Minnesota. As a Niners fan. When
they mocked Fred Warner last week, I was like, I'm

(12:11):
gonna rust Saint Brown. I loved you on Receiver, I
loved watching you on Netflix. They the fact that they
mocked my dude, Fred Warner a little bit doing the
whole limping thing. I'm like, you know, let's go Minnesota.
Let's let's go Vikings. You could say that Detroits.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Do Minnesota, that.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
That organization has had some rough breaks in our lifetime.
So and that's no hate on Detroit. I actually agree
with Rich and when when we agree is fact. So
how about you music? What do you who you call for? Well,
while you guys are sucking up to Colin and his
Sam Darnel fandom and our boss Scott, who's the Vikings fan,
I'm gonna sick with the team that everyone's always been

(12:48):
on board with, and it's the biting kneecaps Detroit Lions,
who have had to fight through the most injuries in
the NFL. And that's why you don't get pay raises, right,
That's right, that's the only reason. Yeah, so I'm pulling
for the Lions. I love the fact that this team
got completely resurrected over the past two seasons and they're

(13:11):
still overcoming all of these injuries, and yeah, count me
in on Detroit now there is there's definitely something to
be said about how Vegas doesn't even have a feel
for this game because it's Lions minus three two and
a half in some places, which means it's just your
home field field goal advantage.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
So I think this couldn't have lined up better.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Now, Again, the NFL would have definitely wanted every game
to have some type of implication Week eighteen, it's still
first time in recent history that I remember nothing really
up for grabs again except for this game, because this
game determines the one seed going through Minnesota or Detroit,
or you're a wildcard that has to go on the

(13:52):
road next week. Yeah, you're fifth. Now is it week
eighteen or week eighteen? It depends. There's a lot of
player incentive. We talked about it on our bonus podcast
over Promise, but without a doubt, the big TV game
of the week is Minnesota at Detroit.

Speaker 7 (14:07):
Who you pulling for? And by the way, Danny g
we got the phones going. Yeah, so figured out the
cow herd phones. It was in star mode star for
some reason that didn't work. It didn't work for you guys,
Joe and Pennsylvania. You're on the air.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Hey Joe, Hey, So three things. I'll keep it moving.
One crops up the gym, totally fine. Two guys can
talk about the vikings. It's a great story. But Lamar's
getting his ring this year. And Three I heard your
voices and I couldn't believe it. I used to listen
to you guys all the time on Maxim Radio. You
still have there's still segments that I've referenced to this day.

(14:44):
I can't talk about them on this radio.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Probably not, but I'm.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
Glad to hear that you guys are still together doing
your thing and I'm just gonna hang out and listen.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Hey man, I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, we started on MAXIM Radio Entertainment Relationships or it's
MAXIM Lifestyle the magazines everybody exactly exactly, and that was
over twenty years ago. Rich and I have celebrated twenty
years of working together just this past month. So we
realized that this relationship. We realize that we've taken our

(15:15):
show together from our twenties to our forties. Lebron James
has sort of covered the extent of our show pretty much.
Tom Brady like that there are athletes that as we
watch them retire, I'm like, I hope that doesn't me
work coming to it. No, No, we're just getting started.
But hey, let me tell you, it's good to hear
from you. Joe and I think this Sunday, this is

(15:36):
huge because the loser of Vikings Lions no shame in
you know the losers what fourteen and three?

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, I mean, how do you get back if you're
fourteen and three?

Speaker 3 (15:47):
You don't think you're gonna be a wild card and
that that team will have to travel to That's the
other crazy part of this team. I think it's the
most victories ever of all time heading into week eighteen
are both four team and two teams.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
That sucks. It really, it really does suck.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Suck that a fourteen and three team will be in
the wild Card going to the Rams. One of those
teams is gonna have to go play on the road
next week and the other one gets to sit back
and chill. So lots at stake Sunday night, and we
got a lot still to get to here. On the
show Covino on Rich, We're gonna do showtime Mahomes Trivia,

(16:25):
give away some prizes.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Deshaun Watson, God, what a bust that guy is. Huh,
what a what a Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
When you talk about bad decisions, even Cleveland looks at
Baker Mayfield and says, you know, that's the girl that
got away without a doubt. Baker Mayfield took that team
to the playoffs with that that he got them like
if I remember correct, like a game away from the
AFC Championship he did. Baker was on the track and
they saw this shiny new toy and they thought Deshaun

(16:54):
Watson was the answer. No. Ital example of the grass
was greener and they made a bad decision and now
look at Baker. So we're gonna talk to Sean Watson.
There's a lot to get to and what if life
was incentive based? A lot of fun, silly conversations coming up.
Covino rich In for Colin on The Herd right here

(17:16):
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
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Speaker 3 (17:26):
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Speaker 5 (17:39):
Why should you listen to Covino and Rich.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's going on
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still work together, I mean that says something right.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
So check us out. We like to get you involved,
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Speaker 3 (18:03):
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Speaker 5 (18:07):
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Speaker 5 (18:20):
That's Covino and Rich.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
It's the cn our show, Covino and Rich in for
Colin on the Herd. And even though my dad says
that we shouldn't kiss ass.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yu always kissing as stop kissines.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Who's actually kissing at the affiliates because I think we
need to be on more so Hella, hey, if you
liking us now, yeah, addis in the afternoon, let's do this.
If you think we're good now, man, you should hear
our show five to seven on the East two to
four Monday through Friday on the West, Covino and Rich
at Covino and Rich and you know what Rich. Right
after this, we do our Patreon podcast. We have lots

(18:58):
of things going on. We even have are over promised
podcast that's on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. It's our
bonus show and later today, keeping with the theme of
kissing as, we're gonna be kissing ass giving away prizes
because we want you guys to listen to our show,
so we came with prizes and giveaways. We're giving away

(19:19):
stainless steel water bottles. Next hour, a little trivia Swiggies, Yeah,
seeing our swiggies, Showtime Mahomes trivia plus signs that you're
in the doghouse in life when you're playing from behind.
We'll get to that. It's a story about the Sean Watson.
But you want to talk a little Brady.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I do.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Before you get to Brady, I just want to bring
up a word that I saw trending today. Uh oh,
and this is gonna make everyone. Was it rizzly bear?

Speaker 4 (19:45):
No? It's gonnay? Was it skibbety? Ohio?

Speaker 3 (19:48):
No? Riz or? Is that last year? That was very
twenty twenty four. I don't know what the new one is.
Then there's a term that will make I think everyone
thirty or older roll their eyes. It's a term called
micro retiring, micro of dirty jobs. He's retiring. No, not micro,
not micro micro. Do you guys know micro the host?

(20:12):
I love that Guy Covino's gonna be at Flappers in
Burbank Tonight's Mike.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Micro micro.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Now I can't think of anything but micro micro retiring jobs,
micro retiring. They're saying, younger people are saving a little
money and walking away from their job for a couple
of years, and then when they run out of money,
they re enter the workforce. How do you gain any
momentum in your career no matter what you do. They

(20:42):
need to listen to some mc hammer old school gaining momentum.
You're not gaining any momentum. If you're stepping out of
the game like that, it's hard to get back in.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
I saw that.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
It's like a complicated game of double Dutch dear luck
trying to jump back in there. I can't understand what
industry you'd be in that you could work be like, yeah,
I'm like twenty seven, I'm gonna retire for a year,
go travel which Listen, it's beautiful, has its perks, but
it feels like very I get it. The younger generation
is all about experiences and living life.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
But I wonder how that all ends up when they're older.
Look if it.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Works for them, like you said, people and they're older, yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Doesn't work for me. I don't know how that works.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
So if you see that word floating around, they're saying
it's a big trend now for younger people micro retiring.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Nah in it to win it. That's my philosophy.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
This.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
You could go like a guy like Tom Brady're gonna
talk about him, You guy it never wanted to retire.
The opposite exactly. Puts his heart into everything he does,
work ethic, a true champion. I believe in working hard,
work ethic. That's why I love Tom Brady. I mean,
his face is a little punishable, but you gotta respect
what he does. And there's two stories.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Danny G. Follow me here. If I get anything wrong,
let me know. Danny G.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Super producer in at eight seven seven forty four three
four three seven eight seven seven for the Herd Ryan,
Big Sexy Ryan, and of course Ryan Music is here
on the updates, Spotty's on the videos. Ryan Music far
less sexy than big Sexy Chocolate over there, and of course.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
So big sexy chocolate.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yo. He's eating he's eating salad for breakfast. He's trying to,
you know, step his game up in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
And of course Spotty's on the videos at Covino and
Rich at Fox Sports Radio, so our very own Arnie Spaniard, right.
According to Bovada official, Arnie was going on a rant
saying that there's fifty to one odds that Brady returns
to the field, and he's talking about all these loopholes
where yeah, then he'll transfer the ownership of the Raiders

(22:51):
to his son, yeah right.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
And then Arnie also told me who's behind the drones?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Right?

Speaker 6 (22:56):
Ryan?

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Is this like a big conspiracy? Though?

Speaker 3 (22:58):
It is on a Vegas board that you could bet
it is? What is it plus five hondo? Well, what
is it plus five five thousand? That Tom Brady returns
to the field?

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Now, there was a bold prediction also made by Richard Ditsch.
Does I hewy to say his name music?

Speaker 4 (23:15):
That is correct?

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Richard Ditsch of the Athletic is making what he's calling.
Let me make it clear with us spreading rumors here
a bold prediction that he's sort of won and done
and stepping away from broadcasting after this year, like a
one and done sort of thing, and you know what,
and he's getting better by the way for the for
the haters, I feel like week by week he's getting

(23:38):
better and better and goes back to his commitment and
his work ethic, and you know, he's a winner at
everything he does.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
I believe in that.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
But it does also make me think, well, is the
juice not worth the squeeze? Like people are way critical
of broadcasters, dude, Like way critical. You could be the
best broadcaster and people still hate you. Like there's people
that I admired Joe Buck. You could say, really when
people say I mute the game? When Bucks calling him, like,

(24:05):
who are you? You don't like to call the game? Everyone
does a podcast, you know, and like we always say,
podcasts are like, uh, opinions, everybody has one and most
of them stink. I didn't want to say opinions, you
know what I wanted to say. But because everyone has
a microphone set up, or because everyone watches football, they're
the experts. That's really the world we live in, where

(24:28):
everybody's the expert and everything of everything and everybody else sucks.
So maybe Tom Brady's living in that world now of wow,
you mean Tony Romo, who everybody loved, now everybody hates,
and every week there's some sort of like broadcasting competition
going on. Like I find it hard that Tom Brady
wants to shy away from that. I just believe that

(24:50):
maybe he has other interest in things he wants to do.
Tom Brady, you know, played under the microscope for twenty years.
So Tom Brady's used to hate. He's used to criticism,
he's used to all that. But I think to Beck
could be ported by broadcasters. I never understood that people
hate Chris Collins with people hate you know, Romo, people
hate Akman and Buck, people hate Al Michaels. Like Bob

(25:12):
Costa is pretty much retired because everyone's like.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Bob Costa sucks? Like what who are you?

Speaker 3 (25:17):
I want to hear all these Jebbroni's on Twitter and
on their couch call a game. Yeah, I would love
to hear again. It's a two prong sort of Tom
Brady deal. Remember they used to do Pros versus Joe's. Yes,
that reality show. I would love there to be a
segment or maybe it's an online Petros hosted it.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah, Petros some money, right, yeah? No, just Petros he
hosted it.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Oh, Yeah, yeah, I would love to see the average
guy just get in the booth and try to call
a game. Yo, rich and I tried that with play
by play for baseball, and we're huge baseball fans. So difficult.
It's a particular set of skills that we don't have.

(25:59):
You can hone eventually, but you can work at it,
but it's not as easy as you think.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
So again, what are the two stories?

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Arnie Spanners saying that according to Bravada Official that there's
fifty to one odds that Brady returns to the field
and he switches the ownership to his son, that Brady
could return, And yeah, maybe there's something to that. I've
been seeing a lot of photos and a lot of
stories about how in shape Tom Brady is. Like, he's
oddly in shape right now for a guy who's not

(26:28):
playing any professional sports. Me and then hold on, Okay,
then part two, I'm just recapping again. Richard Ditsch of
The Athletic made a bold prediction that he's stepping away
from broadcasting A one and done. So my question, based
on those two stories, what's more likely to happen Brady
plays again or we find out what's going on with

(26:49):
the drones, because to me, this is a big conspiracy discussion,
like what are the drones? What are the plasmoids? What's
going on with the orbs? Do you believe in this
mystery fog that people are experiencing the big controversy on
social media?

Speaker 4 (27:04):
I like your question.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, what's more likely to happen Brady plays, or we
find out if plasmoids are alive, if we find out
what the drones are real or not? Let me ask
Danny g who's wearing his Raiders hat today. This goes
along with Brady. I'm gonna paint a picture for you,
Bob Roths style, Hold on pretty little trees. I'm gonna

(27:25):
paint a picture. You tell me if this is your
fantasy or if you or if this is like by
no means what you want? What if somehow, some way
you guys get shit or Sanders and Dad wants to
coach and who are they really friendly with Tom Brady?
Is there a world in which the Sanders sort of

(27:47):
take over the Raiders and Tom Brady for one year
comes out of retirement to mentor Dion's kid, who he
is already sort of mentoring in life. Right in that
case We've seen shoulder of his son, We've seen the
social media eclips where Tom Brady and Dion and the
whole family are close.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Is that a Raiders dream? I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
No.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
So Danny's answer is, we'll find out what the drones
are all about before Tom Brady plays.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Pretty much.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
Look, this is bad timing for Tom Brady to suddenly
do something else with the ownership stake that the owners
just approved. By the way, all right, in what's the
end game for Brady? He wants to own a team
like Jerry Jones outright, okay, or have majority ownership. He
needs all the cheddar he can make right now. So

(28:39):
he's not giving up that broadcasting gig.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
He's not. He's getting paid too much.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
So I think he's still stacking his chips, and now
more than ever, Mark Davis is going to let him
play a huge part of the quarterback decision and the
head coach.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
But so Divik, the Sanders part of that equation is crazy.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
No, that's not crazy, because the Raiders, especially being in
Las Vegas now, they need billboard material.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
They need lights, they need names and lights.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
You know, it's billboard material. Primetime and his son both
coming to Las Vegas. Is that too crazy to speculate
your thoughts? Absolutely not. I have another layer of this again.
The number is eight seven seven for the Herd. I
have another layer of this for you.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
We know Colin Love's analogies. We are filling for the
Herd stars. So if you're Greg Olsen, let's say Tom
Brady does walk away and they put Greg Olsen. Greg
Olson should have played Dexter in the new reboot. It
looks like Michael C. Hall a little absolutely, especially after

(29:41):
your parties a little bit at a wedding, right sometimes
I'm like, is that Dexter?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Oh it's Greg Olsen.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Now?

Speaker 3 (29:47):
People still love Greg Olsen. Great Greg Golson on six
he was great. You see Greg Golsen. What if they
throw him back on the A team with Kevin Burkhart.
Do you just take that and stride and say, all right,
you got it? Guys, It's almost like you got pushed
aside for Tom Brady. So I'll give you the analogy.

(30:10):
If you're a regular Joe. I'm not talking about a successful, handsome,
put together guy like Clearsally, regular dude, schlubby guy, and
you're you find out like the girl you're dating I
don't know, like slept with Zach Effrom. But then she's like,
oh my god, I made a mistake. I want to
be back with you. Do you do you just with

(30:30):
no questions like I got it, I get it. Like
do you think Greg Olsen really deep down inside understands like, ah, listen,
I get it. You paid Tom Brady three hundred million dollars.
You had to put him in, you know, the top position.
If Brady walks away, I think Olson gets it. I
don't think he's a fan of it. He did a
great job, he earned it. But again he's not Tom Brady,
So I think he does get it, and he puts

(30:52):
his professional face.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
On and say I'm not happy to be back, and
he's happy to be back.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Kevin Burke, Caarr, what's up? Kby?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
He's proven to be a professional, so absolutely that's what
would happen there. So to wrap up this whole conversation,
Tom Brady, where do you see him? If I said,
you know, crystal Ball, Crystal one year from now, where
we're breaking in twenty twenty six, where hey and for
the Herd one year from now?

Speaker 4 (31:15):
What do we talk about? Oh Man?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Tom Brady an the second year in the booth was great?
Are we saying, man, Tom Brady? I think that Tom
Danny g nailed that he needs that cheddar is what
he says, that broadcasting cheddar, And I feel like that
he views broadcasting the same way he viewed the NFL,
like I need to work hard at this, and if
I work hard at this, I could be great at this.

(31:38):
Tommy is a competitive guy and he wants to be
the best at everything he does. So I don't think
he steps away because he wasn't that good at it.
I think, and again, like you already said, Rich, he's
definitely improved and he's good and he's getting better all
the time. I think is something he wants to work
at and look back at and say he was great
at it, like he wasn't for ball, and he's not

(32:02):
coming back to the field. These are these are big odds,
and these are big what ifs. But I think we're
likely to find out that the drones are taken over.
In fact, my dads in Jersey said he saw him
over Applebee's, So there the drones are there. They're scoping
out the boneless wings at Applebee's. That we as we speak,
you know, we're likely to find out what's going on

(32:22):
with the drones and the plasmoids more than Tom Brady playing,
More than Tom Brady stepping on the field to get
you know, who better to ask than Ryan Music, who
works with the Herd every day and may listen. Colin
has Tom on from time to time. When you do
you get the sense when when Tom's on the Herd
that he loves the broadcasting world. I do, yeah, I
actually think, yeah, he's all in on the broadcasting stuff.

(32:45):
And I would say one year from now it is
all about what's year or two been like for him
in the booth and what's the future of the Raiders
based off of where they land on this whole quarterback situation.
Him staying Shae is just TB twelve doing his I'm
staying in shape form a fit guy. I'm a handsome dude,
like that's his Yeah, I think almost his brand now.

(33:07):
I mean yeah, I think for him, the whole thing
is when you do something when you're as obsessed with
fitness and lifestyle and the grind of a routine like
he was for two and a half decades of his life.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
I don't think you can just like drop it now.
He's disciplined on a new level.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Like you see some athletes retiring like three years later,
they're fat, Right, tom Brady's gonna be the guy that's
like ripped when he's fifty sixty years old. I feel
like he's just such a discipline disciplined love in the booth.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
I think that goes with the game.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
You want to look your best and feel good about it,
and you got to put things in perspective. Is his
first year doing this, I think he's done great. To
be honest, I'm highly impressed. So props to him. I
think we're again, we're gonna find out what's what's the
deal with this mystery chemical fog and plasmoids before we
see him ever play again. That that that's done, and

(33:58):
I don't believe he's one and done in the booth.
I think he becomes one of the greats. I do
because he has what young people today don't have work ethic.
And speaking of Tom Brady, you know, as we're watching
you know, Squid Game and all the nonsense you're watching
on Netflix now, I'm pretty sure his roast logged the
most minutes in twenty twenty four on Netflix, and.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
I believe eighty for Brady is available. It is.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I happen to see that, speaking of what to watch weekend,
Hobnobby on the show, but he got Tom Brady alerts
on your phone. Well, I was doing some prep earlier.
I saw that eighty for Brady. All right, So hey, listen,
we got the Herdline news coming up. We're going to
talk about Shaun Watson, a bunch of Rando stuff, CNR
and for The Herd on Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Radio one More Herd. The Herd streams twenty four hours
a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app.
Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Surprise, convene on rich In for Colin on the Herd
and when someone who works as Hey, we'll circle back
in the new Year.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
That's that's Monday, the sixth. No one's really looking at this.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
It's the new year yet, because if this toys from
Christmas on your floor, decorations are still up and you're
still eating leftovers, it's it's not the new Year yet.
It's my heart take really okay, Well.

Speaker 7 (35:16):
And there's still nose picking kids terrorizing your house. Yay,
your kids are still home. That is true, Mom and
dad could hardly wait.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
For school to start again. I get that lyric.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Now, happy New Year, I'm bored. I hope you do
big things in twenty twenty five. Stay alive in twenty
twenty five. There you go, now, next hour, show time,
a homes trivia, your chance to win some prizes, plus
weekend hobnobbing. What you need to watch this weekend? But
rich you ready for some herd Line news.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
No, no, no, the news. This is the herd Line News.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
All right, guys, here we go.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Say Kwon Barkley will not be playing against his former team,
the Giants on Sunday, but he will still be giving
them nightmares.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
The superstar running back will not break Eric Dickerson's single
season rushing record, but he did take a not so
subtle shot at his former team on social media with
this ad campaign promoting a sleep aid.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
I heard some of you were having trouble sleeping, so
I wrote.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
You a lullaby rock a bye baby, Awaken you a
bit as a thought of two thousand swolls in your head.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
It's shure. It's tough to lo sleep over football. Not
for me though. Good night to you all.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
This, of course a nod to the Giants owner John Mara,
who was featured on The Hard Knocks offseason with the Giants,
saying he would have a tough time sleeping if Saquon
ended up signing with the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Oh oh, I see what he did there.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
By the way, Teiquon seems like his family is bummed,
and by him saying that, I think that's his way
of saying he secretly bummed that he's not going to
get a shot at breaking the record. Yeah, speaking of sleep,
I saw that Eric Dickerson also said that he wasn't
losing any sleep if he were to break that record.
Easy to say, now, I don't believe that. He also,
in the same breath, said that he didn't necessarily.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Want him to break the record. Damn. I wouldn't want
him to break the record if I were him. Yeah,
that's uh. I think.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I think he didn't want to look entirely like the
bad guy, so he's trying to soften it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I don't necessarily think that's exactly the case. But he
doesn't really matter because Saiquon sitting out the last game
of the season. Eric Dickerson remains your single season NFL
rushing champ. All right, last hour we discussed AFC Pro
Bowl selections. This hour turn our attention to the NFC.
Here are your quarterbacks, Jared Goff, Jaden Daniels, Sam Darnold.
People a little bit up in arms. Why well Baker

(37:42):
Mayfield left off that list? Who happens to be second
in touchdown passes and second in completion percentage? And of
course the Buccaneers can lock up the NFC South and
a playoff spot with a win over the Saints.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
You know, it's tough to figure.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Out who you would leave off, right, It's like one
hundred percent, not to always compare to relationships and stuff.
But you see a beauty pageant, not every good looking,
talented woman's gonna win, right, I mean golf Jaden Daniels,
Donald Baker.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
I feel should be on there. But who do you
take off?

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Could be exactly Yeah, let me Goff, Jaden Daniels, Darnold, Man,
that's tough. Donald, They're gonna be They could end up
being fifteen and two, a one seed.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, they're all pretty high. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
GoF you know, I don't know, man, I guess the
one you would say is like Jade and Daniels. But
even still, it's like, look what he was able to
do with the team that he turned around from a
complete disaster in just one year as a rookie.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
So that's where I was leaning though.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
But like you said, man, they're chanting MVP when he's
playing doing big things.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
So we'll wrap up with this.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Caleb Williams about to finish off a rocky rookie season,
unlike Jadon Daniels who had a ton of success. But
when the Bears tick on the Packers and Lambeau, well
that will come to an end and Chicago on a
ten game losing streak, all eyes are on who their
next head coach will be, well Caleb. He was asked
about Commander's offensive coordinator Cliff Kingsbury, who's rumored to POTENTI

(39:00):
be in the mix for that position.

Speaker 8 (39:01):
I've been around Cliff. I know what type of guy
he is. I know that he loves football. I know
that he wants to win. He's a competitor, you know,
and and many different aspects that I was just speaking about.
I've been around him, so I would say that, you know,
been around him, knowing I'm asking him questions and things
like that. I think obviously if he was if he

(39:22):
was here, I probably have more to say. But I
think he fits a bunch of those qualities that I said.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
So some contexts here around those comments. Cliff and Caleb
go back to his time at USC as an offensive analyst,
and prior to that question, when he was referencing some
of the stuff that I was talking about, he was
asked about what are the qualities he looks for in
the head coach challenging us as players, A man who
keeps his word, and a coach that's all about discipline,
and as you heard Caleb say, all qualities he thinks

(39:49):
Cliff Kingsbury has. I'd like Cliff Kingsbury. He's from my
wife's hometown, New Bronfels, Texas. Okay, and I remember during
draft night, Remember we got to see his sweet house
that's right there, and then then he got fired. He
went on like he went on vacasion with his hot girlfriend.
He's like, yeah, I'm just fine. Yeah, I feel like
maybe more of an offensive coordinator than a head coach. Sure,
but yeah, you know, what if he clicks with the

(40:10):
quarterback that's so important it would be It would be
a pretty interesting twist and about face, if you will,
for the Chicago Bears, who didn't even really bring him
in to be their offensive coordinator when everyone thought that
was going to be the natural fit. Going back to
as we said the time with Caleb at USC so
to go from hey, we're not really considering you for
offensive coordinator too, we'd love for you to be the

(40:32):
next head coach would be a pretty interesting twelve month turnaround.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Things change when you lose ten in a row. That's right,
by the way.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
You remember, we speculated like everyone else when that Hail
Mary pass hit for the Washington Commanders over the Bears.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
And we joked like, oh, that's a turning point. Bears
are done.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
I didn't think Bears were done, meaning they would lose
ten in a row. Since then, you hear that Bears
fans Rich Jinks to your whole seat exactly what everyone
in Chicago to point their hate to this guy.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
And a Rich Davis. Well, thank you, Ryan, Well.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
That's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd
Line news.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
So dumb observation.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Before we get into incentives in life and my home
showtime trivia. I'm looking around the room and again I
said dumb observation. So I set it up by saying
dumb sure.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Coming from you. You could have just said observation. It's
all good, thanks man.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
It's everyone in this room has some type of beard, scruff,
facial hair.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yeah right, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Thought about all the baseball season moves, the offseason moves,
and Paul Goldschmidt. I'm thinking of like I'm just thinking
of like when you play for the Yankees. I just
looked in the mirror, went out to the bathroom, like
I gotta trim up the stubble. Imagine having to shave
every day. I feel like we've taken for granted like
our parents, like maybe your dad in the seventies, eighties,

(41:56):
or nineties shaved every day. Does that just seem like
the biggest any of the as thing that no dude
does anymore. I mean, I know Colin looks clean shaven
all the time on TV every day, but do you
know many guys that are clean shaven? I meanwork for
a few years, I went scruffed and clean shaven, then

(42:18):
back to the scruff again. I'm not coming down on
the Yankees and the lame rules. I'm just saying, like
it's a very interesting thing, Like it's not even just
gold Schmid, because he's been doing a bunch of interviews
the past few days and you're seeing that he's gonna
have to probably shave his head and his face. But
Devin Williams, two of the Yankees, recently said that he
hasn't shaved completely in six years. And it got me

(42:39):
thinking too, like, well, what's going underneath there? You know,
some dude's got a lot of stuff going on. Maybe
he's lack of a chin, lack of confidence, maybe he's
got like some razor bumps, Like maybe he doesn't want
to shave because if you look.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Good, you feel good, you play gird Again.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Dumb observation, But in twenty twenty five, I don't know
many friends, family members, grown men that shave every I
wonder if the Yankees eventually say, yeah, you know, we're
gonna you're allowed to a beard to keep it neat
possibly more convened on Rich next
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