May 13, 2025 • 42 mins
Colin talks about the rumors that Bill Belichick won't be coaching at North Carolina for long
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the Pacers play tonight. Can they wrap up that series?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yes they can.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I thought you were going to make a reference to
this shirt, which your social team already texting me about.
And the story of it is that you're giving away
your count is because you're now moving and I turned
your one of your sofas into my shirt today, So
I thought I thought you.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Would like that a nice look, that kind of change
it up, you know. So I got to tell you
this story. Pablo Toy. Do you know Pablo Toy? Smart guy.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I've heard of him.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I don't know him. He's smart Guy's a podcaster now
and he's been all over this Belichick Jordan Hudson story.
And he says he's saying, now Carolina is concerned. There
was a story yesterday. This thing may not last. Belichick
may not be coaching this year. That feels a little hot.
But he said the question I had as a reporter
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when I saw the video which is out now of
Bill the ring video leaving somebody's house with no shirt on.
How did the Daily mal or Daily Mail European newspaper,
how did they get that video? How do they get
access to that? Let's say it wasn't Jordan Hudson, who
was it? Are there other videos of seventy year old
Bill Belichick? You know? How did this video get out?
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So Belichick's gone from watching tape to being tape. He's
had tape issues through the years. But I think what
Belichick is more than anything, he is Deon Sanders. He
has made a non traditional football power very very relevant.
I do not think recruits are bothered by their relationship
I also because this story by Pablo Torres says the
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family is very concerned for Bill. Are we sure they're
not concerned about the will not Bill? I do not
buy that Bill Belichick is an old feeble man being
taken advantage of. He's not downstairs being fed apple sauce
and oatmeal at four o'clock right before Matt Locke. That's
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not what's happening here. He was the world's best football
coach until a few years ago. He's making ten million dollars,
smart enough to have his people negotiate a deal that
it could leave Carolina in about an hour and still
get compensated. So there are benefits for both. The young
lady Jordan Hudson works as his social media director, some
real estate stuff happening in her life through Bill what ebbs.
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But when I hear the family is worried about him. Yes,
When old, successful, rich guys who make a lot of
money and have a big net worth start dating younger
women who are aspirational driven and get into the business
life of that person because that person, the older person
trusts them, families do get very, very concerned. So I,
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you know nothing against Pablo Tori it could all be true.
Ryan Rosillo and I talked about this about a week ago.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I'm a little surprised that somebody that's been this media
savvy despite his willingness to share, because you're right, like
this past year at ESPN, I thought the same thing.
I'm watching him. He's jovial, he's having he's yucking it
up with the boys. You know, it's like this feels
a bit like, Hey, I need the public to see
this personality, this side of me that I've hid. Once
football starts, maybe this won't matter. And here's what we know.
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Here's what we know. They get off to a good
start at Chapel Hill, no one's going to care. And
if they're two and everybody's gonna blame this relationship because
that's what we predictably do.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yes, I understand people get uncomfortable with power dynamics. I
get it. I can understand North Carolina kind of looking
around a little uneasy. But North Carolina hired a football
coach who then hired Mike Lombardi. These are NFL guys.
As the sport is transitioning, Carolina knew what they were
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getting into. And Bill Belichick is not a feeble old man.
He knows what he's getting into as well. That's my tape,
and that's not a shot at anybody who's reporting it.
I do think he will coach this year, and very
rarely do I feel like sports is cheating me. But
if I don't get a watch one year at Belichick
at Carolina, I will feel cheated. So I want this
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loving relationship. I want this thing to be Rita Wilson
and Tom Hanks. I wanted to last at least twelve months. Okay,
give me to a season.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
With that, we bring on Nick, right, call those first
things first. Anyway, Listen, first of all, we are both
so happily married. It's hard for us to relate to
any of this stuff, right.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
It is, Yeah, an older man being taken advantage of.
You know, I feel like you maybe could relate to
an alternate universe.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
But luckily you have Ann and so you're fine. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I can I tell you something before we get to
the stories of the day.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Yeah, you have been more bold.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
I have so many takes on this Belichick thing, but
I just I'm like, you know, it's live TV, and
I just I don't have to get all the takes out,
all the time, like, maybe I'll just hold this one in.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I turn on the herd lead in the hour.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
So here's the deal, and you are What I will
say is this, while I maybe am more skeptical of
it than you are, I think you are totally correct.
At once the money and the will starts potentially being
messed with. That is historically very often where you have
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more concerned family members saying, hold on a second, wait,
we're not gonna split this five ways. I thought we
were splitting it four and so yeah, I do think
there's a long history of that. I also think Belichick's
choices the last four years might be of a man
who is, you know, not quite to have his fastball
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as much as he once did. But let's talk draft
lottery in the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Go okay, So you and I and I said this,
The de facto opinion in America now with the FBI,
the CIA, the media, of the government vaccines is skepticism.
We do not trust our institutions. And so when Dallas
won that thing, I'm thinking, oh boy, here we go.
It's gonna be rigged. And my takeaway is a did
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they rig it for Atlanta last year? By the way,
Zion was available, the Knicks had the number one pick,
Let's give it to the Pelicans. That's a hot bed
for basketball interest. So I think all the rig stuff
is nonsense, but I think conspiracy theories are overwhelmingly silly.
What do you say to all the non believers after
Dallas landing Cooper flag?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
All right, so I have a lot of takes on this.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
I can start with the first one, and I have
intentionally not consumed any media today on this. So if
I'm insulting someone with this opinion, please know it is unwittingly.
But one of the things I like about NBA Draft
Lottery Day when there is an event like this, is
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it's a nice, quick, easy way for me to check
off in my brain a mental list of all the
of who all the true idiots are. I'm like, oh,
you think it's rigg You're okay, that's fine, that's fine.
I just now know in my head you're either an
idiot or someone that is not as smart as I
once thought you did.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
It's good to know.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
It's like it's the same way if you walk into
a bar and you see a guy's got califlower here,
You're like, just no, quick handy like, oh, don't mess
with him.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
This is like, oh, it's an idiot test.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Because here's the problem with So, there's so many problems
with it, most of which is people are like one
point eight percent one point eight percent those same people again,
I would say, you know, you can take a local
UH Probability and statistics class local community college seventy bucks
a credit hour might be worth your time. Because the
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thing about low event, low probability events is they occur
all the time. The odds of winning the power ball
are more than a billion to one, but every week
someone does it.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Is that riggs? Here's that? So there's one point. Here's
another point.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
The number of people who would have to be involved
in this can conspiracy, not the least of which are
Ernst and Young, the accounting firm. They're like, we have
a very successful, long term, one hundred plus year accounting
business and then on the side, couple times a decade
we engage in massive fraud to the benefit of who
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and of what. And the other problem is, as is
always the case, there are there are four teams that
could have won it yesterday, and people would have said rigged.
If the Sixers won it, off trying to save and
be big market if the Spurs won it, Oh my goodness, gracious,
can you admit there is supercharging wimby there? And the
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years that are rigging doesn't make sense? But what for
another team? What do they think that those years the
NBA was just asleep at the wheel, like, well, Anthony
Davis was a generational prospect, and we sent him to
our worst and least successful market. We forget, and then
we did it again with Zion Williamson. And then there
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is the specifics about this alleged rigging, which is, give
Luca to the Lakers and we'll get you Cooper Flagg. Okay,
do those people not remember what the Dallas Mavericks did
after trading Luca, which is to everything.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
In their power to not have any lottery balls to
be rigged.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
They rushed Anthony Davis back, he got hurt. They played
Kyrie insane minutes which led to him getting hurt, all
just to get into the playoffs. Then they were in
the play in, won a game in the play in,
and we're in a tight game with Memphis where Anthonyavis
scored forty where if they win it, they don't have
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any lottery balls. And so what is is someone again
with an IQ above seventy five. Talk me through it,
talk me through each step of it and what you'll
get to at the end of it. Ah, it feels fishy,
which is shorthand for I'm a moron. So again, I
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don't know which of my colleagues or friends I just
called a moron. And here's the thing. I'm fine with
being friends with morons. It's nothing that we can still
hang out together. But I just think you're a dullard
if you think this thing's rigged.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, I said earlier the NBA flattened the odds and
really made it into a raffle. And I have bought
twenty dollars worth of raffle tickets in a room of
twenty people one hundred times. I've never ever won it,
so everybody's and I also said it is fixed, fixed
so that the tanking teams don't win. Yes, they did
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fix it. They flattened the odds. Okay, so before the
Jason Tatum injury. And maybe you and I are different
on this, I'm not sure. Years ago, I had a
boss and he said, you know, have strong opinions. You
don't want to sit in the fence in your business
and he goes. Sometimes being really wrong is great because
the audience feels like they're right and you're wrong. They
win and you lose. And there was a moment, it
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was about four to five minutes before the Tatum injury,
and I was like, New York's the better team in
this world. They got the better coach, they got the
better number one. Jalen Brunson's playing out of his mind.
Their wing defense, Michale bridges og is really working. The
officials are letting it be physical, the shot makings better,
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the movements better. Pre Jason Tatum, I was like, Wow,
I missed on this. Did you have a revelation of
any sort watching that game before Tatum got hurt?
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Listen so, and I know we'll deal with the Tatum
stuff later. I think the Tatum injury has obviously understandably
but muddied the water on what happened.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
In that game.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
When Jason Tatum got hurt, there were three minutes and
four seconds left and the Knicks were up nine points.
The Knicks were winning that game and going to win
that game even if Tatum does not.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Suffer the injury.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
As far as my thought, I think this sear now listen.
I got the series wrong on the front end. Before
it started. I thought the Celtics would cruise. After Game two,
I said, I think the Knicks are going to the Finals,
and I thought the analysis of this series had been incorrect.
After after three games of this series, the Celtics were
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shooting from three to thirty two percent.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
The Knicks were shooting.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
From three to thirty three percent during the regular season
the Knicks. It's by tiny, a tiny margin, but the
Knicks shot a better percentage from three.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Than Boston did.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Boston just had crazy high volume, so they both were
shooting a couple percentage points beneath their regular season three
point percentages. And the way everyone had told the story
of the series is Boston's ice cold, the Knicks have
gotten lucky, and I understand that Boston missed a ton
of shots in games one and two, But I was
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watching the series saying, Ognanobi hasn't played well yet, Jalen
Brunson hasn't had an explosion game yet. And while everyone
else was saying, what's gonna happen when Tatum has a
great game? I was asking, what's gonna happen when Jalen
Brunton has a great game, and they both had a
great game at the same time, and the Knicks once
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again walked them down.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
The Knicks once again had taken.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Control, and the Knicks had their biggest lead of the series.
And I brought this up to you last week, and
I will bring it up again. The Celtics were a
team built to win a championship, and they did, and
maybe they could have again this year.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
The Knicks were a team built to beat Boston.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
And just like we saw one year ago in this round,
a team in Minnesota who hired Denver's GM and then
he came there to build a team to beat Denver.
And then they played in Round two and Minnesota took
the first two in Denver and went on to win
the series and beat the defending champs. We see a
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team in New York that traded for og Ananobi, traded
for McHale, Bridges, traded for Karl Anthony Towns, og to
guard Tatum, Bridges to guard Brown, Carl Anthony town so
they had a stretch five like the Knicks do, and
for Zingis and Horford.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
They built a team to beat Boston.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
And then Jalen Brunson's continued ascension to the most clutched
player in the league this year is the tiebreaker on it.
So I think even if Tatum hadn't been hurt, the
Knicks were going to win this series, and now obviously
they are.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
And now the Tatum injury.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Has real impact on next season and the seasons after.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Yeah, the Knicks were better right now.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah. And I was saying this years ago. The Seahawks
looked like they were built for a dynasty, and then
all of a sudden, in the second Super Bowl, there
was a coaching decision Russell Wilson interception. It hurt the
locker room, it hurt the culture, distrust all of a sudden,
you're like, never got back. And we're seeing this in
the NBA, where I watched Denver win and I thought, whoo,
this is the Spurs with Duncan, and you know the CBA,
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you've got to get rid of players, you can't have
the depth, and it's like, no, Denver's gonna win one,
and Milwaukee's gonna win one, and Toronto won one, and
I thought Boston was different. And I watched last night
and I thought, Okay, Drew Holliday and Porzingis are old.
Horford's older, They're up against the cap, They've got new owners.
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I think we're looking at if you asked me today,
four or five teams with the future. I love It's Indiana,
It maybe New York's, OK, see Houston. I don't know
if Boston. That injury to me was like.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Wow, No, the tentacles of this thing, Colin are overwhelming,
and it does if I made just for a moment,
not that anyone would ever be able to do this,
but like when you see how hard it is to
repeat or to continually going to runs, Like imagine.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
If someone in today's era did.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Something like make eight straight finals and make nine out
of ten finals.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
With three different organizations and four different head.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Coaches, Like that guy mustn't it must be the greatest
player ever to live. But yeah, every team looks like
they're going to repeat until the moment it looks like
they might never win again because that Like, so think
about that, Colin, so Kawhi and Toronto's different because nobody
thought they were gonna repeat. Because he left the Lakers
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win the championship, they are the favorites to win the
next year. They look amazing. Solomon Hill somersault into Lebron
James's ankle. They're never that close again.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
The Bucks win the championship. They are the favorites to repeat.
Chris Middleton gets injured in the playoffs, Jason Tatum has
an amazing Game six. They haven't been close again. The
Warriors win the championship. They go back the next year.
They lose to the Lakers in round two. The Nuggets
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win the championship. They are overwhelmingly clearly the best team,
and they blow a twenty point lead in Game seven
at home and a year later are firing their coach.
The Celtics are the best team all year, even if
they don't have the record. Everyone is penciling them in.
They have two cold shooting nights and then one incredibly unfortunate, unlucky,
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devastating injury. And now you say to yourself, if Tatum
is out for next season, he'll never play with Al
Horford again, who's probably retiring. He'll never play with Chris
steps Porzingis again. He may or may not play with
Drew Holliday and or and this is the big question.
Jalen Brown was last night in the last game of Tatum.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
And Brown together.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Maybe maybe I wouldn't bet that, but maybe it certainly
ends this iteration of Boston, which people were speculating was
going to, you know, potentially make some major moves even
if they won the championship because the team was so expensive.
Excuse me, but now with Tatum, assuming he's out for
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next year, you rework it entirely. I'm going to add
one other tentacle to it. It's actually two. If you
are Yiannis and you're open to the idea of leaving
Milwaukee for the first time reportedly, do you see this
and say, maybe I do give it one more year?
The Caves are frauds. It would appear the Celtics are
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not going to exist. I've got two years left to
my deal in Milwaukee.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Do I rush to get.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Out West where now twelve of the fifteen players are
or do I say I can give it one more
year here and then I'll add one more Let me
take a sip of coffee.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Before all right, I'll wait patiently.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
If you are Lebron James, you're going into year twenty
three and you're surveying the landscape and you're like, well,
I plan to stay in Los Angeles. I want to
stay in Los Angeles. But that team from my home
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state that won sixty four games and then got clocked
in round two like it has every year since I
was gone, that they actually made the playoffs out east,
where Boston is a non factor, where Giannis might leave,
where I could just be the conquering hero back home
once again and sign with them for nothing to in
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year twenty three get my fifth championship and certainly my
eleventh trip to the finals. It's at least worth considering.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Now. You'd have to convince.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Maybe the Calves that what they're gonna have to trade
for Bronni. But aside from that, it works quite well.
It's something to think about.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, by the way, I'm gonna throw this in. We
got a couple minutes left. I I thought Brunson was
a one A, and I said, years ago, if you
told me the best knicks ever, I'm old enough. I
was like Walt Frasier, Patrick Ewing always thought Mellow was
a great score but not a great teammate. I look
at Brunson right now, and I'm sorry. You don't know
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something until you know something, or you don't know something.
Do you see something? I feel he is the best
small shot maker in the league. Unlike Kyrie Irving, he
is healthy more often, Unlike Steph, he's in his prime.
I think Brunson's a one and the best small shot
maker in the league. Am I not?
Speaker 7 (21:37):
He's definitely though, He's definitely a one. I bet the
you know him versus step they play such different styles, right,
And so here's to me a fun one, Colin, because
I Bruh and I know I was always higher on
Mellow than you. Yeah, if you're listing you know the
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greatest players in NBA history in order, and you get
Mellow's entire career. Obviously, Brunson has not eclipsed Mellow, who
is one of the fifty greatest players of all time,
but he has.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Eclipsed him as a nick.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
And as far as as a Nick goes the Mount Rushmore,
it's always fun Sports Radio TV topic of New York Knicks.
Three spots are locked Willis Reid, two time finals, MVP
Walt Fraser, who should have won one of those finals
MVPs when he had thirty six points nineteen assists in
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a game seven for the championship. Those two champions, those
two spots are locked. The third spot is Patrick Ewings
that is locked that final spot. There is an argument
for Earl Monroe. There is an argument for Bernard King,
who I'm sure you loved. There is an argument for Mellow.
I think it is Jalen Brunson spot now, yep. I
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think he is on the Mount rush More of New
York Knick basketball greams. I think it's Fraser read Ewing
and this little guy, yeh, who is even his I
think people can Nick fans can be like you underestimated him.
I bet Rick his dad underestimated him.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
I don't think anybody.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Saw this coming. Yeah, it's a remarkable revelation.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I remember his dad because I think I was in
port I don't know if I was, but I remember
his dad. I think Brunson was on the team, the
Portland team I covered, I think, and he was just
it was solid pro. You know, it was like everybody
liked him, solid pro. Not a shock. His kid goes
to Villanova. You know, smart dad been around, He's just
a great story and he just he just I gotta
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tell you something.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It is.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It's maybe it's just easier to root for New York
heroes because they It does feel bigger. I watched that game,
and New York feels bigger. And there's a reason that
crowd was jet fuel. It was, it was. It was incredible,
so unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
I was there Saturday, I and I wasn't able to
go last night, and it's it really is some parts
about I understand why people and I'm not from here,
I'm from the Midwest.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Some things you hear about New.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
York as someone who's not from here but has now
lived here almost a decade, it's like, oh, that's a
little overrated. That's a little East Coast bias. One thing
that is not overrated. The Garden when the Knicks are
even kind of good is unbelievable. Yeah, the Garden when
the Knicks have the best team they've had in a
quarter century is a religious level experience. And it has
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been absolutely unbelievable. They shut down Seventh Avenue, the fans
did yesterday, and they're going to host a conference finals
game for the first time since it was spree Well
in Houston in the ninety nine season, and it's going
to be a hell of a site to see. It's
really going to be unbelievable. And you and I might
have nailed it on your pod last week, the Popes
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from Villanova.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
We should have just bet the farm on that, Nicks.
I mean, who's gonna benefit from that more?
Speaker 7 (25:04):
If there is a sports god, he he's putting his
finger on the scale today.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Tell you that one great stuff? Nick, right as always?
Buddy's good Zenia, Yeah you too, Yeah, I mean there, uh,
you know, I think this all the time. I don't
talk a lot of hockey, but occasional, all occasionally all
flip on hockey. And you know, the games have been incredible,
but I you know everybody is these days is you
go on to certain platforms and everybody's negative. There is
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so much great sports. I mean, it's just what is
happening now. We're getting upsets in Indiana. Here come the
Tea Wolves, emerging superstar ant. The Knicks are on fire,
Here comes Okac And it's not the old Steph Warriors,
the old lebron Lakers, and Brady's out and Manning's out
and Farms, a lot of the legends are out. And
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there is a new wave of unbelievable talent and Caitlin
Clark to Tyrese Halliburton, there is some unbelievable Basketball and
Sports O Tawny and Harper and Aaron Judges hitting four hundred.
We are so lucky right now by the quality of
young athletes, from nutrition to training, to coaching to commitment.
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Every night I turn on television and I'm just awe
struck by the competitiveness, how much they care, how going
to shape there.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And it's great, It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I was thinking back to our conversation earlier, Colin about
the lottery and the rigs and all that. Let me
just ask you bluntly, so since they've changed the draft
odds right in twenty nineteen, the team that has had
the worst record.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Has never won the lotter.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
That's the way it should be.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Is that good for the league? By the time on,
let me just finish. So Dallas won it this year,
Dallas was in the finals last year.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
They've got a great roster.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
San Antonio got Webbin Yama. They just got the number
two pick. Yeah, we're seeing teams that are awful like Washington, Utah, Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Ain't nobody going there in free agency.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
The only way for them to get better the dregs
of the league is to win the lottery.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Okay, Are we sure this is a good thing?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yes, because because I'll give you an example. The Green
Bay Packers don't even have an owner. It's the smallest
market in North America sports market. But yet they're good
every year. Isn't that amazing? And the two New York
teams suck? Why would that be?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Money doesn't matter, commitment and intelligence does. By the way,
little old Utah the best young owner, maybe the best
GM in the league. They're building draftic Sam Press the
Oklahoma City. Look who's winning in sports market? Science doesn't matter. Washington,
DC is a huge, powerful market. Stinks' tontil the new
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owner stunk in everything.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
So yesterday you didn't want to mix the NFL and NBA.
So let's leave the backers out of it. Let's focus
on NBA. And you made a good point, do you,
tad Jazz? They've got some They had done it a Mitchell,
they had Rudy Gobert all NBA guys right, they got
a ton of.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And them they're the next O KC.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Watch out well you say.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
That, but okay, see they got SGA via trade right,
they didn't win the lottery?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
They chet Holmegrid did he go one?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Or two.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I forget, but I just I wonder if this flattening
of the odds is kind of a bad thing I
want to see.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I know this isn't gonna be popular.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I like sports to be socialists, Okay, I like an
even playing field.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That's why my baby I don't love is tough. I
don't like the Yankee spending five hundred, Pirate spending eighty mine.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I don't like any socialism. I like smarter people to win.
The Ravens are smarter, the Packers are smarter. Sam Presty
is smarter.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Well.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I don't root for dummies Washington. Go watch that shooting
Guard's documentary. I can't root for organizations that don't know
what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I root for smart people to succeed. I root for
Tom Izzo coach Kale Beyond. But remember the New York
Giants were a blue blood. They were smart forever. Now
they hit a bat. Guess who left smart Tom Kopf
and smart Eli Manning. Shocker, they've been in the toilet since.
I root for committed, smart people to win in everything,
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and if that's lobsited, I'm for it. The Dodgers are
deferring payments. Everybody else could the Dodgers' research and development.
They don't miss on everybody. They bring up, come play.
They win every trade. I don't care what market size is.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Root.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
That's why I've always said this before. The SEC dominated
college football for twenty years. It got boring, but they
cared more. They were more committed. I can't root against.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
People like so.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That also applies to Lebron right.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
He was with the Cavs, asked them to build a
team around and they couldn't do it. Watches the Celtics
get a super team with Paul Pierce's squad. Lebron's like,
I gotta lead. So you were okay with Lebron leaving?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Right, he's smart.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
He's like, I'm getting a hell out of you. Kevin Durant,
I'm leaving. I don't know problem, okay, just to make
it sure we.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
By the way, when when Mahomes was obviously great, the
Chiefs signed him to a ten year contract for flexibility
the Hunt family. When's the last time Kansasity Chiefs were
awful for a stretch or the Packers were terrible for
a stretch. It's funny, it just doesn't happen Baltimore last
sixteen years. Bashadi's on the team for two decades, the
last sixteen years, winning his team in the division. That's
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why I root for Baltimore. Baltimore makes my eyes happy
every time I turn on the Ravens. It's quality football.
The Packers make my eyes happy.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Jets the Jets.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I'll go blind if I keep watching them. The Pacers,
by the way, little old Indiana, you're watching them coach
players stars. Indiana right now is the best two young
point guards in the sport, Caitlin Clark and Haliburton. Is
she a point guard? A shooting the.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Way Dylan Brunson has come on.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
By the way, they traded for Halliburton and Siakam. Yes,
it's funny smart So Indiana smartly got great players, don't.
I don't buy into this underdog I don't. Everybody's always
into money and no money New York Stinson football. Who cares?
Root for smart people? And if you do, you have
to root for the Ravens and can't root for the Jets.
(31:01):
That's you know, That's.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
How I NA see. I got you fired up.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
There A guy I've.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Bulways rooted for Skrzyzewski. He'll be coming on next hour.
I used to cover UNLV and I would wear a
Duke basketball shirt, going everybody with how can you root
for Duke? And I'm like, how can you not root
for Duke? How do you not root for excellence? I've
never been to Duke. I couldn't have gotten into Duke.
How do I root against Duke? I don't even know.
(31:28):
It's how do I root against Kansas Basketball? Or Duke
or Hurley and Yukon. They're better, They're more committed. I'm
the big I mean, there's literally a term in basketball
Villanova guy, how do you root against Villanova? If unless
you're their rival, If you're their rival fan, you get
a root? Again? How do I root against Queen Bay?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
They got their act?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Get you know what? I root against teams that hurt
my eyes. You're Jets. They're easy to root against. And
I'm taking a break.
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Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know, the one thing the NBA has done when
people talk about the draft lottery and being rigged, is
they have flattened the odds so it's like a raffle.
Now nobody's gonna worst record doesn't mean anything. Do you
know the only team when you think of tanking in
the NBA, there's one team we all think of. It
doesn't work, and the team we think of as Philadelphia,
and they have nothing to prove for it. It does
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not work. Tanking does not work. It builds a losing culture.
And then when you tank and you do get the
great player Joe l Embiid, you literally gave up so
many wins and so much of your culture to get
a star that you become overly loyal to the star.
It messes with your head. They haven't moved past the
second round of the playoffs for all that tanking. They've
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been doing it. You know, they did it for about
a six year stretch tank and draft the tallest guy
available as the league was getting faster. Nick Right earlier
was fired up about this MAVs lottery rig talk.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Do those people not remember what the Dallas Mavericks did
after trading Luca, which is to everything in their power
to not have any lottery balls to be rigged. Then
they were in the play in, won a game in
the play in, and we're in a tight game with Memphis.
(33:22):
We're Anthon David scored forty where if they win it,
they don't have any lottery balls. Talk me through each
step of it, and what you'll get to at the
end of it is, ah, it feels fishy, which is
shorthand for I'm a moron.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, I mean I didn't watch. I just saw some
rig stuff come up in the first fifteen minutes. And
I'm not you know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I
think there have been conspiracy theories where you find shreds
of truth, and I think it comes down to we
just don't trust. We don't trust institutions in America, and
that just just the reality of it, doesn't matter what
(34:00):
it is. Media, I mean, just say Congress, people start laughing,
like like the media, Congress, the CIA, nobody trusts anything,
and so that opens the door. And also, I think
you know, when you legalize gambling, then everybody immediately thinks, oh,
these officials are on the folks. You know how many
times the Pelicans have won this thing and the Orlando
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Magic have won this thing and Cleveland teams have won it.
If you were gonna rig it, you'd do Chicago, You
do New York. Zion could have gone to New York. No,
the Pelicans won it. The dunking machine from Duke could
have gone to New York. Really, you couldn't rig that one.
He goes to New Orleans of LSU Saints, a football city.
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If literally, if the Pelicans left the league tomorrow, crickets,
that's what we're gonna rig it for. I don't know.
That doesn't feel like it works to me. Mike Krychevski
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Speaker 1 (36:02):
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Speaker 2 (36:07):
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Speaker 4 (36:11):
Speaking of conspiracy theories, the Giants.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Just kidding.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
We still cannot believe that the Giants traded back into
the first to take the old miss quarterback. But Dart
has been taking part in mini camps and it looks
pretty damn good out there here he is talking about
the early stages.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
It's intense. Uh, you know, I kind of had an
idea coming into it. You know that I had to
make sure that I was on my p's and q's
when I walked in, So it was super fun. I
think that at the same time, you know, me and
him were able to just form like an organic relationship,
and you know, they definitely tested me, you know, harder
than any other you know, team throughout this process. And
as a quarterback, you know, you're the one that runs.
You know, you run the ship when you're out there,
(36:49):
so you know, if you're if you don't know the
ins and outs of everything, you're not going to have
everybody around you prepared. And I think that that's super important.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah, we'll see how that works out. What do you
What do you make that?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So I gotta say it's weird. For some dumb reason.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Social media keeps sending me New York Giants Jackson dark content,
Maybe because I made fun of him during the process.
He's saying all the right things. He actually looks the
part well. I think he's out there smiling and confident,
calling I did.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Not expect all of this. So far, so good, but
again it's early.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I will say he had a great offensive coach. He
had amazing skilled people in college and a lot of
his completions were all schemed up. They did not ask him.
I watched four or five Old Miss games. They did
not ask him to make a lot of throws off
script or that weren't. I mean, he had about twelve
completions baked in. I watched that Florida game and I
came away going that I don't want to hear about
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first round.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I know you love when I say this phrase, but
listen to it to him talk spit it in the
huddle leading these dress He just kind of looks like
a cool guy, like he's just laid back, doesn't really
seem fhazy.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
He's happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I think I kind of might be too, But he's
a giant, you know, and I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
He also, yeah, he's got zip on it, got a
decent arm.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I've heard him more from Jackson Dart than I have
Justin Field since he arrived.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
With the Jets. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Well, I mean, I think we know what Justin Field is.
What's that, Well, we've seen him twice. That's not You're
not going to the Promised lamd with Justin.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Field, So you know, with Jackson dart Well.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I mean, at some point, if you got to make
your own breaks, at some point he's had Now, he's
had defensive coaches and defensive cultures. But I've seen justin
fields play nobody. You know, it's just And now he's
got a rookie defensive head coach. I think I think
it's played out. I think he'll be fine. I don't.
I think he works hard, and I think he's got
a good army moves, but I don't think that's I
(38:40):
don't think he's taken him. That's a fourth place, third place,
fourth place team.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
That's what it is, all right, speaking of a third
or fourth place team. The Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, they're talking
about Micah Parsons and giving him a contract extension. He's
entering the final year of his deal and he's gonna
make twenty four mil. Parsons has hinted that he won't
do any on field working till he has a new deal.
Stephen Jones broke down where things stand in the contract negotiations.
Speaker 11 (39:05):
I've never been one to crystal ball when contract get died.
I mean, you can be close, you think you're right
around the corner, and then they get pushed out, and
there's extenuating circumstances as to why they you know them
or their agent don't want to pull the triggers. So
you know, this is just a work in progress. It's
so very easy to comment on them because you really
(39:26):
don't know where you are till both sides are ready
to go. But you know, obviously our goal is to
and we have you know, visited at times with Micah
and our goals to get him here. And I think
Michael wants to be a cowboy, and we want him
to be a cowboy long term.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
All right, well, let's uh, there's your cowboys coverture today,
ladies and gentlemen, Let's get back to the NBA column
where the Warriors dropped Game four of the Wolves last night.
Now down three to one, headed back to Minnesota, and
we got some bad news for you. Stef Curry saying
even if I wanted to be Superman, I couldn't says
he's not gonna play in Game five tomorrow due to
(40:05):
the hamstring.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
It's over now.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
If they Warriors could.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Somehow win and force Game six, it gives Stephan additional
couple days of recovery. They're now reports that Jimmy Butler
looked like garbage last night because he was feeling sick.
He was great in Game three, Butler went all out
tried to get him the win.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
They couldn't.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
I don't want to say the Warriors are done, but
this season's over.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I don't know where they go from here.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
They're becoming Milwaukee in the West. They're becoming yeah, in
the better West. They're becoming Milwaukee with a better culture
and coach. They've got one great player, a good player
they're getting, you know, I mean, they played thirteen fourteen
guys without Steph. They don't have an answer.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Can we get creative and get them a star? I
just don't know what the path is.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Well, Kaminga is going to get you something, because when
Steph hasn't played, he's been twenty at nine, he'll be there's.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Going to be a losses. That's like Jordan Poole could
give you twenty in loss.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
No, but he Jminga isn't immature. He just doesn't work
in that offense. When Butler and Draymond are on the floor.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
It's interesting and there's a big story here somewhere with
Steph Curry point, Klay Thompson was tremendous, Draymond was amazing,
Jordan Poole was fricking outstanding. Jonathan Kamenka couldn't get on
the court. Now, No Curry and Draymond. I mean he's
extremely limited plays in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
How did he do nothing? Great?
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Kaminga now playing scoring and they're getting a butts kick.
Jordan pools terrible in watching it. Curry, you know, you
don't want to act like he made all these guys,
but he changes so much.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
You take Curry off the Warriors, they're not only average,
they are hard to watch.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
That's twenty five thirty.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It's lacrosse players and guys from the Netherlands. Like, it's
just not it's not a good watch.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I think this actually bolsters Curry's like like a historical legacy.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
There you go, yeah, Jmat with the news.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd line.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I do love the reaction from the Dallas Mavericks war
room or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 11 (42:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Now it's hard for me to believe that everybody was
in on it. People are saying, oh, just Nico was
in on it, so whatever. I do love to see
these moments when people learn, they get ecstatic. It's a
collection of people, you know. It's like when you watch
March Madness and you get invited in your Akron or something,
and his stuff is so cool. Sports is so cool.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
So let me ask you. I'm Nico Harrison. You're one
of the guys in the war room.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Tell me. Do you trade Cooper Flag? Do you keep him?
Do you trade for you?
Speaker 1 (42:36):
What do you do? Like?
Speaker 3 (42:36):
There's so many options.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Go home. I'm gonna let Ad come back and Kyrie
and Cooper Flag lively and have a really nice playoff team.
I'm in the minority. I understood, I understood moving off Luca.
I just wish they would have gotten Austin Reeves Ad
in three ones. But I get considering it never in shape,
no defense. Laker fans saw it
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the Pacers play tonight. Can they wrap up that series?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yes they can.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I thought you were going to make a reference to
this shirt, which your social team already texting me about.
And the story of it is that you're giving away
your count is because you're now moving and I turned
your one of your sofas into my shirt today, So
I thought I thought you.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Would like that a nice look, that kind of change
it up, you know. So I got to tell you
this story. Pablo Toy. Do you know Pablo Toy? Smart guy.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I've heard of him.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I don't know him. He's smart Guy's a podcaster now
and he's been all over this Belichick Jordan Hudson story.
And he says he's saying, now Carolina is concerned. There
was a story yesterday. This thing may not last. Belichick
may not be coaching this year. That feels a little hot.
But he said the question I had as a reporter
(01:34):
when I saw the video which is out now of
Bill the ring video leaving somebody's house with no shirt on.
How did the Daily mal or Daily Mail European newspaper,
how did they get that video? How do they get
access to that? Let's say it wasn't Jordan Hudson, who
was it? Are there other videos of seventy year old
Bill Belichick? You know? How did this video get out?
(01:56):
So Belichick's gone from watching tape to being tape. He's
had tape issues through the years. But I think what
Belichick is more than anything, he is Deon Sanders. He
has made a non traditional football power very very relevant.
I do not think recruits are bothered by their relationship
I also because this story by Pablo Torres says the
(02:19):
family is very concerned for Bill. Are we sure they're
not concerned about the will not Bill? I do not
buy that Bill Belichick is an old feeble man being
taken advantage of. He's not downstairs being fed apple sauce
and oatmeal at four o'clock right before Matt Locke. That's
(02:40):
not what's happening here. He was the world's best football
coach until a few years ago. He's making ten million dollars,
smart enough to have his people negotiate a deal that
it could leave Carolina in about an hour and still
get compensated. So there are benefits for both. The young
lady Jordan Hudson works as his social media director, some
real estate stuff happening in her life through Bill what ebbs.
(03:03):
But when I hear the family is worried about him. Yes,
When old, successful, rich guys who make a lot of
money and have a big net worth start dating younger
women who are aspirational driven and get into the business
life of that person because that person, the older person
trusts them, families do get very, very concerned. So I,
(03:24):
you know nothing against Pablo Tori it could all be true.
Ryan Rosillo and I talked about this about a week ago.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I'm a little surprised that somebody that's been this media
savvy despite his willingness to share, because you're right, like
this past year at ESPN, I thought the same thing.
I'm watching him. He's jovial, he's having he's yucking it
up with the boys. You know, it's like this feels
a bit like, Hey, I need the public to see
this personality, this side of me that I've hid. Once
football starts, maybe this won't matter. And here's what we know.
(03:54):
Here's what we know. They get off to a good
start at Chapel Hill, no one's going to care. And
if they're two and everybody's gonna blame this relationship because
that's what we predictably do.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yes, I understand people get uncomfortable with power dynamics. I
get it. I can understand North Carolina kind of looking
around a little uneasy. But North Carolina hired a football
coach who then hired Mike Lombardi. These are NFL guys.
As the sport is transitioning, Carolina knew what they were
(04:25):
getting into. And Bill Belichick is not a feeble old man.
He knows what he's getting into as well. That's my tape,
and that's not a shot at anybody who's reporting it.
I do think he will coach this year, and very
rarely do I feel like sports is cheating me. But
if I don't get a watch one year at Belichick
at Carolina, I will feel cheated. So I want this
(04:47):
loving relationship. I want this thing to be Rita Wilson
and Tom Hanks. I wanted to last at least twelve months. Okay,
give me to a season.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
With that, we bring on Nick, right, call those first
things first. Anyway, Listen, first of all, we are both
so happily married. It's hard for us to relate to
any of this stuff, right.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
It is, Yeah, an older man being taken advantage of.
You know, I feel like you maybe could relate to
an alternate universe.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
But luckily you have Ann and so you're fine. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I can I tell you something before we get to
the stories of the day.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Yeah, you have been more bold.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
I have so many takes on this Belichick thing, but
I just I'm like, you know, it's live TV, and
I just I don't have to get all the takes out,
all the time, like, maybe I'll just hold this one in.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I turn on the herd lead in the hour.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
So here's the deal, and you are What I will
say is this, while I maybe am more skeptical of
it than you are, I think you are totally correct.
At once the money and the will starts potentially being
messed with. That is historically very often where you have
(06:11):
more concerned family members saying, hold on a second, wait,
we're not gonna split this five ways. I thought we
were splitting it four and so yeah, I do think
there's a long history of that. I also think Belichick's
choices the last four years might be of a man
who is, you know, not quite to have his fastball
(06:35):
as much as he once did. But let's talk draft
lottery in the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Go okay, So you and I and I said this,
The de facto opinion in America now with the FBI,
the CIA, the media, of the government vaccines is skepticism.
We do not trust our institutions. And so when Dallas
won that thing, I'm thinking, oh boy, here we go.
It's gonna be rigged. And my takeaway is a did
(07:00):
they rig it for Atlanta last year? By the way,
Zion was available, the Knicks had the number one pick,
Let's give it to the Pelicans. That's a hot bed
for basketball interest. So I think all the rig stuff
is nonsense, but I think conspiracy theories are overwhelmingly silly.
What do you say to all the non believers after
Dallas landing Cooper flag?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
All right, so I have a lot of takes on this.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
I can start with the first one, and I have
intentionally not consumed any media today on this. So if
I'm insulting someone with this opinion, please know it is unwittingly.
But one of the things I like about NBA Draft
Lottery Day when there is an event like this, is
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it's a nice, quick, easy way for me to check
off in my brain a mental list of all the
of who all the true idiots are. I'm like, oh,
you think it's rigg You're okay, that's fine, that's fine.
I just now know in my head you're either an
idiot or someone that is not as smart as I
once thought you did.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
It's good to know.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
It's like it's the same way if you walk into
a bar and you see a guy's got califlower here,
You're like, just no, quick handy like, oh, don't mess
with him.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
This is like, oh, it's an idiot test.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Because here's the problem with So, there's so many problems
with it, most of which is people are like one
point eight percent one point eight percent those same people again,
I would say, you know, you can take a local
UH Probability and statistics class local community college seventy bucks
a credit hour might be worth your time. Because the
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thing about low event, low probability events is they occur
all the time. The odds of winning the power ball
are more than a billion to one, but every week
someone does it.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Is that riggs? Here's that? So there's one point. Here's
another point.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
The number of people who would have to be involved
in this can conspiracy, not the least of which are
Ernst and Young, the accounting firm. They're like, we have
a very successful, long term, one hundred plus year accounting
business and then on the side, couple times a decade
we engage in massive fraud to the benefit of who
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and of what. And the other problem is, as is
always the case, there are there are four teams that
could have won it yesterday, and people would have said rigged.
If the Sixers won it, off trying to save and
be big market if the Spurs won it, Oh my goodness, gracious,
can you admit there is supercharging wimby there? And the
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years that are rigging doesn't make sense? But what for
another team? What do they think that those years the
NBA was just asleep at the wheel, like, well, Anthony
Davis was a generational prospect, and we sent him to
our worst and least successful market. We forget, and then
we did it again with Zion Williamson. And then there
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is the specifics about this alleged rigging, which is, give
Luca to the Lakers and we'll get you Cooper Flagg. Okay,
do those people not remember what the Dallas Mavericks did
after trading Luca, which is to everything.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
In their power to not have any lottery balls to
be rigged.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
They rushed Anthony Davis back, he got hurt. They played
Kyrie insane minutes which led to him getting hurt, all
just to get into the playoffs. Then they were in
the play in, won a game in the play in,
and we're in a tight game with Memphis where Anthonyavis
scored forty where if they win it, they don't have
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any lottery balls. And so what is is someone again
with an IQ above seventy five. Talk me through it,
talk me through each step of it and what you'll
get to at the end of it. Ah, it feels fishy,
which is shorthand for I'm a moron. So again, I
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don't know which of my colleagues or friends I just
called a moron. And here's the thing. I'm fine with
being friends with morons. It's nothing that we can still
hang out together. But I just think you're a dullard
if you think this thing's rigged.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, I said earlier the NBA flattened the odds and
really made it into a raffle. And I have bought
twenty dollars worth of raffle tickets in a room of
twenty people one hundred times. I've never ever won it,
so everybody's and I also said it is fixed, fixed
so that the tanking teams don't win. Yes, they did
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fix it. They flattened the odds. Okay, so before the
Jason Tatum injury. And maybe you and I are different
on this, I'm not sure. Years ago, I had a
boss and he said, you know, have strong opinions. You
don't want to sit in the fence in your business
and he goes. Sometimes being really wrong is great because
the audience feels like they're right and you're wrong. They
win and you lose. And there was a moment, it
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was about four to five minutes before the Tatum injury,
and I was like, New York's the better team in
this world. They got the better coach, they got the
better number one. Jalen Brunson's playing out of his mind.
Their wing defense, Michale bridges og is really working. The
officials are letting it be physical, the shot makings better,
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the movements better. Pre Jason Tatum, I was like, Wow,
I missed on this. Did you have a revelation of
any sort watching that game before Tatum got hurt?
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Listen so, and I know we'll deal with the Tatum
stuff later. I think the Tatum injury has obviously understandably
but muddied the water on what happened.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
In that game.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
When Jason Tatum got hurt, there were three minutes and
four seconds left and the Knicks were up nine points.
The Knicks were winning that game and going to win
that game even if Tatum does not.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Suffer the injury.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
As far as my thought, I think this sear now listen.
I got the series wrong on the front end. Before
it started. I thought the Celtics would cruise. After Game two,
I said, I think the Knicks are going to the Finals,
and I thought the analysis of this series had been incorrect.
After after three games of this series, the Celtics were
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shooting from three to thirty two percent.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
The Knicks were shooting.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
From three to thirty three percent during the regular season
the Knicks. It's by tiny, a tiny margin, but the
Knicks shot a better percentage from three.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Than Boston did.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Boston just had crazy high volume, so they both were
shooting a couple percentage points beneath their regular season three
point percentages. And the way everyone had told the story
of the series is Boston's ice cold, the Knicks have
gotten lucky, and I understand that Boston missed a ton
of shots in games one and two, But I was
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watching the series saying, Ognanobi hasn't played well yet, Jalen
Brunson hasn't had an explosion game yet. And while everyone
else was saying, what's gonna happen when Tatum has a
great game? I was asking, what's gonna happen when Jalen
Brunton has a great game, and they both had a
great game at the same time, and the Knicks once
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again walked them down.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
The Knicks once again had taken.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Control, and the Knicks had their biggest lead of the series.
And I brought this up to you last week, and
I will bring it up again. The Celtics were a
team built to win a championship, and they did, and
maybe they could have again this year.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
The Knicks were a team built to beat Boston.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
And just like we saw one year ago in this round,
a team in Minnesota who hired Denver's GM and then
he came there to build a team to beat Denver.
And then they played in Round two and Minnesota took
the first two in Denver and went on to win
the series and beat the defending champs. We see a
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team in New York that traded for og Ananobi, traded
for McHale, Bridges, traded for Karl Anthony Towns, og to
guard Tatum, Bridges to guard Brown, Carl Anthony town so
they had a stretch five like the Knicks do, and
for Zingis and Horford.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
They built a team to beat Boston.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
And then Jalen Brunson's continued ascension to the most clutched
player in the league this year is the tiebreaker on it.
So I think even if Tatum hadn't been hurt, the
Knicks were going to win this series, and now obviously
they are.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
And now the Tatum injury.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Has real impact on next season and the seasons after.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Yeah, the Knicks were better right now.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah. And I was saying this years ago. The Seahawks
looked like they were built for a dynasty, and then
all of a sudden, in the second Super Bowl, there
was a coaching decision Russell Wilson interception. It hurt the
locker room, it hurt the culture, distrust all of a sudden,
you're like, never got back. And we're seeing this in
the NBA, where I watched Denver win and I thought, whoo,
this is the Spurs with Duncan, and you know the CBA,
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you've got to get rid of players, you can't have
the depth, and it's like, no, Denver's gonna win one,
and Milwaukee's gonna win one, and Toronto won one, and
I thought Boston was different. And I watched last night
and I thought, Okay, Drew Holliday and Porzingis are old.
Horford's older, They're up against the cap, They've got new owners.
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I think we're looking at if you asked me today,
four or five teams with the future. I love It's Indiana,
It maybe New York's, OK, see Houston. I don't know
if Boston. That injury to me was like.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Wow, No, the tentacles of this thing, Colin are overwhelming,
and it does if I made just for a moment,
not that anyone would ever be able to do this,
but like when you see how hard it is to
repeat or to continually going to runs, Like imagine.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
If someone in today's era did.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Something like make eight straight finals and make nine out
of ten finals.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
With three different organizations and four different head.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Coaches, Like that guy mustn't it must be the greatest
player ever to live. But yeah, every team looks like
they're going to repeat until the moment it looks like
they might never win again because that Like, so think
about that, Colin, so Kawhi and Toronto's different because nobody
thought they were gonna repeat. Because he left the Lakers
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win the championship, they are the favorites to win the
next year. They look amazing. Solomon Hill somersault into Lebron
James's ankle. They're never that close again.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
The Bucks win the championship. They are the favorites to repeat.
Chris Middleton gets injured in the playoffs, Jason Tatum has
an amazing Game six. They haven't been close again. The
Warriors win the championship. They go back the next year.
They lose to the Lakers in round two. The Nuggets
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win the championship. They are overwhelmingly clearly the best team,
and they blow a twenty point lead in Game seven
at home and a year later are firing their coach.
The Celtics are the best team all year, even if
they don't have the record. Everyone is penciling them in.
They have two cold shooting nights and then one incredibly unfortunate, unlucky,
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devastating injury. And now you say to yourself, if Tatum
is out for next season, he'll never play with Al
Horford again, who's probably retiring. He'll never play with Chris
steps Porzingis again. He may or may not play with
Drew Holliday and or and this is the big question.
Jalen Brown was last night in the last game of Tatum.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
And Brown together.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Maybe maybe I wouldn't bet that, but maybe it certainly
ends this iteration of Boston, which people were speculating was
going to, you know, potentially make some major moves even
if they won the championship because the team was so expensive.
Excuse me, but now with Tatum, assuming he's out for
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next year, you rework it entirely. I'm going to add
one other tentacle to it. It's actually two. If you
are Yiannis and you're open to the idea of leaving
Milwaukee for the first time reportedly, do you see this
and say, maybe I do give it one more year?
The Caves are frauds. It would appear the Celtics are
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not going to exist. I've got two years left to
my deal in Milwaukee.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Do I rush to get.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Out West where now twelve of the fifteen players are
or do I say I can give it one more
year here and then I'll add one more Let me
take a sip of coffee.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Before all right, I'll wait patiently.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
If you are Lebron James, you're going into year twenty
three and you're surveying the landscape and you're like, well,
I plan to stay in Los Angeles. I want to
stay in Los Angeles. But that team from my home
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state that won sixty four games and then got clocked
in round two like it has every year since I
was gone, that they actually made the playoffs out east,
where Boston is a non factor, where Giannis might leave,
where I could just be the conquering hero back home
once again and sign with them for nothing to in
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year twenty three get my fifth championship and certainly my
eleventh trip to the finals. It's at least worth considering.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Now. You'd have to convince.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Maybe the Calves that what they're gonna have to trade
for Bronni. But aside from that, it works quite well.
It's something to think about.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, by the way, I'm gonna throw this in. We
got a couple minutes left. I I thought Brunson was
a one A, and I said, years ago, if you
told me the best knicks ever, I'm old enough. I
was like Walt Frasier, Patrick Ewing always thought Mellow was
a great score but not a great teammate. I look
at Brunson right now, and I'm sorry. You don't know
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something until you know something, or you don't know something.
Do you see something? I feel he is the best
small shot maker in the league. Unlike Kyrie Irving, he
is healthy more often, Unlike Steph, he's in his prime.
I think Brunson's a one and the best small shot
maker in the league. Am I not?
Speaker 7 (21:37):
He's definitely though, He's definitely a one. I bet the
you know him versus step they play such different styles, right,
And so here's to me a fun one, Colin, because
I Bruh and I know I was always higher on
Mellow than you. Yeah, if you're listing you know the
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greatest players in NBA history in order, and you get
Mellow's entire career. Obviously, Brunson has not eclipsed Mellow, who
is one of the fifty greatest players of all time,
but he has.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Eclipsed him as a nick.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
And as far as as a Nick goes the Mount Rushmore,
it's always fun Sports Radio TV topic of New York Knicks.
Three spots are locked Willis Reid, two time finals, MVP
Walt Fraser, who should have won one of those finals
MVPs when he had thirty six points nineteen assists in
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a game seven for the championship. Those two champions, those
two spots are locked. The third spot is Patrick Ewings
that is locked that final spot. There is an argument
for Earl Monroe. There is an argument for Bernard King,
who I'm sure you loved. There is an argument for Mellow.
I think it is Jalen Brunson spot now, yep. I
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think he is on the Mount rush More of New
York Knick basketball greams. I think it's Fraser read Ewing
and this little guy, yeh, who is even his I
think people can Nick fans can be like you underestimated him.
I bet Rick his dad underestimated him.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
I don't think anybody.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Saw this coming. Yeah, it's a remarkable revelation.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I remember his dad because I think I was in
port I don't know if I was, but I remember
his dad. I think Brunson was on the team, the
Portland team I covered, I think, and he was just
it was solid pro. You know, it was like everybody
liked him, solid pro. Not a shock. His kid goes
to Villanova. You know, smart dad been around, He's just
a great story and he just he just I gotta
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tell you something.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It is.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It's maybe it's just easier to root for New York
heroes because they It does feel bigger. I watched that game,
and New York feels bigger. And there's a reason that
crowd was jet fuel. It was, it was. It was incredible,
so unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
I was there Saturday, I and I wasn't able to
go last night, and it's it really is some parts
about I understand why people and I'm not from here,
I'm from the Midwest.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Some things you hear about New.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
York as someone who's not from here but has now
lived here almost a decade, it's like, oh, that's a
little overrated. That's a little East Coast bias. One thing
that is not overrated. The Garden when the Knicks are
even kind of good is unbelievable. Yeah, the Garden when
the Knicks have the best team they've had in a
quarter century is a religious level experience. And it has
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been absolutely unbelievable. They shut down Seventh Avenue, the fans
did yesterday, and they're going to host a conference finals
game for the first time since it was spree Well
in Houston in the ninety nine season, and it's going
to be a hell of a site to see. It's
really going to be unbelievable. And you and I might
have nailed it on your pod last week, the Popes
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from Villanova.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
We should have just bet the farm on that, Nicks.
I mean, who's gonna benefit from that more?
Speaker 7 (25:04):
If there is a sports god, he he's putting his
finger on the scale today.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Tell you that one great stuff? Nick, right as always?
Buddy's good Zenia, Yeah you too, Yeah, I mean there, uh,
you know, I think this all the time. I don't
talk a lot of hockey, but occasional, all occasionally all
flip on hockey. And you know, the games have been incredible,
but I you know everybody is these days is you
go on to certain platforms and everybody's negative. There is
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so much great sports. I mean, it's just what is
happening now. We're getting upsets in Indiana. Here come the
Tea Wolves, emerging superstar ant. The Knicks are on fire,
Here comes Okac And it's not the old Steph Warriors,
the old lebron Lakers, and Brady's out and Manning's out
and Farms, a lot of the legends are out. And
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there is a new wave of unbelievable talent and Caitlin
Clark to Tyrese Halliburton, there is some unbelievable Basketball and
Sports O Tawny and Harper and Aaron Judges hitting four hundred.
We are so lucky right now by the quality of
young athletes, from nutrition to training, to coaching to commitment.
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Every night I turn on television and I'm just awe
struck by the competitiveness, how much they care, how going
to shape there.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And it's great, It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I was thinking back to our conversation earlier, Colin about
the lottery and the rigs and all that. Let me
just ask you bluntly, so since they've changed the draft
odds right in twenty nineteen, the team that has had
the worst record.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Has never won the lotter.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
That's the way it should be.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Is that good for the league? By the time on,
let me just finish. So Dallas won it this year,
Dallas was in the finals last year.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
They've got a great roster.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
San Antonio got Webbin Yama. They just got the number
two pick. Yeah, we're seeing teams that are awful like Washington, Utah, Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Ain't nobody going there in free agency.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
The only way for them to get better the dregs
of the league is to win the lottery.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Okay, Are we sure this is a good thing?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yes, because because I'll give you an example. The Green
Bay Packers don't even have an owner. It's the smallest
market in North America sports market. But yet they're good
every year. Isn't that amazing? And the two New York
teams suck? Why would that be?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Money doesn't matter, commitment and intelligence does. By the way,
little old Utah the best young owner, maybe the best
GM in the league. They're building draftic Sam Press the
Oklahoma City. Look who's winning in sports market? Science doesn't matter. Washington,
DC is a huge, powerful market. Stinks' tontil the new
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owner stunk in everything.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
So yesterday you didn't want to mix the NFL and NBA.
So let's leave the backers out of it. Let's focus
on NBA. And you made a good point, do you,
tad Jazz? They've got some They had done it a Mitchell,
they had Rudy Gobert all NBA guys right, they got
a ton of.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And them they're the next O KC.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Watch out well you say.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
That, but okay, see they got SGA via trade right,
they didn't win the lottery?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
They chet Holmegrid did he go one?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Or two.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I forget, but I just I wonder if this flattening
of the odds is kind of a bad thing I
want to see.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I know this isn't gonna be popular.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I like sports to be socialists, Okay, I like an
even playing field.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That's why my baby I don't love is tough. I
don't like the Yankee spending five hundred, Pirate spending eighty mine.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I don't like any socialism. I like smarter people to win.
The Ravens are smarter, the Packers are smarter. Sam Presty
is smarter.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Well.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I don't root for dummies Washington. Go watch that shooting
Guard's documentary. I can't root for organizations that don't know
what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I root for smart people to succeed. I root for
Tom Izzo coach Kale Beyond. But remember the New York
Giants were a blue blood. They were smart forever. Now
they hit a bat. Guess who left smart Tom Kopf
and smart Eli Manning. Shocker, they've been in the toilet since.
I root for committed, smart people to win in everything,
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and if that's lobsited, I'm for it. The Dodgers are
deferring payments. Everybody else could the Dodgers' research and development.
They don't miss on everybody. They bring up, come play.
They win every trade. I don't care what market size is.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Root.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
That's why I've always said this before. The SEC dominated
college football for twenty years. It got boring, but they
cared more. They were more committed. I can't root against.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
People like so.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That also applies to Lebron right.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
He was with the Cavs, asked them to build a
team around and they couldn't do it. Watches the Celtics
get a super team with Paul Pierce's squad. Lebron's like,
I gotta lead. So you were okay with Lebron leaving?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Right, he's smart.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
He's like, I'm getting a hell out of you. Kevin Durant,
I'm leaving. I don't know problem, okay, just to make
it sure we.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
By the way, when when Mahomes was obviously great, the
Chiefs signed him to a ten year contract for flexibility
the Hunt family. When's the last time Kansasity Chiefs were
awful for a stretch or the Packers were terrible for
a stretch. It's funny, it just doesn't happen Baltimore last
sixteen years. Bashadi's on the team for two decades, the
last sixteen years, winning his team in the division. That's
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why I root for Baltimore. Baltimore makes my eyes happy
every time I turn on the Ravens. It's quality football.
The Packers make my eyes happy.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Jets the Jets.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I'll go blind if I keep watching them. The Pacers,
by the way, little old Indiana, you're watching them coach
players stars. Indiana right now is the best two young
point guards in the sport, Caitlin Clark and Haliburton. Is
she a point guard? A shooting the.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Way Dylan Brunson has come on.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
By the way, they traded for Halliburton and Siakam. Yes,
it's funny smart So Indiana smartly got great players, don't.
I don't buy into this underdog I don't. Everybody's always
into money and no money New York Stinson football. Who cares?
Root for smart people? And if you do, you have
to root for the Ravens and can't root for the Jets.
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That's you know, That's.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
How I NA see. I got you fired up.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
There A guy I've.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Bulways rooted for Skrzyzewski. He'll be coming on next hour.
I used to cover UNLV and I would wear a
Duke basketball shirt, going everybody with how can you root
for Duke? And I'm like, how can you not root
for Duke? How do you not root for excellence? I've
never been to Duke. I couldn't have gotten into Duke.
How do I root against Duke? I don't even know.
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It's how do I root against Kansas Basketball? Or Duke
or Hurley and Yukon. They're better, They're more committed. I'm
the big I mean, there's literally a term in basketball
Villanova guy, how do you root against Villanova? If unless
you're their rival, If you're their rival fan, you get
a root? Again? How do I root against Queen Bay?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
They got their act?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Get you know what? I root against teams that hurt
my eyes. You're Jets. They're easy to root against. And
I'm taking a break.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's be sure to catch live editions of The Herd
weekdays in noon easternn AM Pacific on Sports Radio FS
one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know, the one thing the NBA has done when
people talk about the draft lottery and being rigged, is
they have flattened the odds so it's like a raffle.
Now nobody's gonna worst record doesn't mean anything. Do you
know the only team when you think of tanking in
the NBA, there's one team we all think of. It
doesn't work, and the team we think of as Philadelphia,
and they have nothing to prove for it. It does
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not work. Tanking does not work. It builds a losing culture.
And then when you tank and you do get the
great player Joe l Embiid, you literally gave up so
many wins and so much of your culture to get
a star that you become overly loyal to the star.
It messes with your head. They haven't moved past the
second round of the playoffs for all that tanking. They've
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been doing it. You know, they did it for about
a six year stretch tank and draft the tallest guy
available as the league was getting faster. Nick Right earlier
was fired up about this MAVs lottery rig talk.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Do those people not remember what the Dallas Mavericks did
after trading Luca, which is to everything in their power
to not have any lottery balls to be rigged. Then
they were in the play in, won a game in
the play in, and we're in a tight game with Memphis.
(33:22):
We're Anthon David scored forty where if they win it,
they don't have any lottery balls. Talk me through each
step of it, and what you'll get to at the
end of it is, ah, it feels fishy, which is
shorthand for I'm a moron.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, I mean I didn't watch. I just saw some
rig stuff come up in the first fifteen minutes. And
I'm not you know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I
think there have been conspiracy theories where you find shreds
of truth, and I think it comes down to we
just don't trust. We don't trust institutions in America, and
that just just the reality of it, doesn't matter what
(34:00):
it is. Media, I mean, just say Congress, people start laughing,
like like the media, Congress, the CIA, nobody trusts anything,
and so that opens the door. And also, I think
you know, when you legalize gambling, then everybody immediately thinks, oh,
these officials are on the folks. You know how many
times the Pelicans have won this thing and the Orlando
(34:23):
Magic have won this thing and Cleveland teams have won it.
If you were gonna rig it, you'd do Chicago, You
do New York. Zion could have gone to New York. No,
the Pelicans won it. The dunking machine from Duke could
have gone to New York. Really, you couldn't rig that one.
He goes to New Orleans of LSU Saints, a football city.
(34:44):
If literally, if the Pelicans left the league tomorrow, crickets,
that's what we're gonna rig it for. I don't know.
That doesn't feel like it works to me. Mike Krychevski
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Speaker 1 (36:02):
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Speaker 4 (36:11):
Speaking of conspiracy theories, the Giants.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Just kidding.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
We still cannot believe that the Giants traded back into
the first to take the old miss quarterback. But Dart
has been taking part in mini camps and it looks
pretty damn good out there here he is talking about
the early stages.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
It's intense. Uh, you know, I kind of had an
idea coming into it. You know that I had to
make sure that I was on my p's and q's
when I walked in, So it was super fun. I
think that at the same time, you know, me and
him were able to just form like an organic relationship,
and you know, they definitely tested me, you know, harder
than any other you know, team throughout this process. And
as a quarterback, you know, you're the one that runs.
You know, you run the ship when you're out there,
(36:49):
so you know, if you're if you don't know the
ins and outs of everything, you're not going to have
everybody around you prepared. And I think that that's super important.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah, we'll see how that works out. What do you
What do you make that?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So I gotta say it's weird. For some dumb reason.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Social media keeps sending me New York Giants Jackson dark content,
Maybe because I made fun of him during the process.
He's saying all the right things. He actually looks the
part well. I think he's out there smiling and confident,
calling I did.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Not expect all of this. So far, so good, but
again it's early.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I will say he had a great offensive coach. He
had amazing skilled people in college and a lot of
his completions were all schemed up. They did not ask him.
I watched four or five Old Miss games. They did
not ask him to make a lot of throws off
script or that weren't. I mean, he had about twelve
completions baked in. I watched that Florida game and I
came away going that I don't want to hear about
(37:41):
first round.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I know you love when I say this phrase, but
listen to it to him talk spit it in the
huddle leading these dress He just kind of looks like
a cool guy, like he's just laid back, doesn't really
seem fhazy.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
He's happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I think I kind of might be too, But he's
a giant, you know, and I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
He also, yeah, he's got zip on it, got a
decent arm.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I've heard him more from Jackson Dart than I have
Justin Field since he arrived.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
With the Jets. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Well, I mean, I think we know what Justin Field is.
What's that, Well, we've seen him twice. That's not You're
not going to the Promised lamd with Justin.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Field, So you know, with Jackson dart Well.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I mean, at some point, if you got to make
your own breaks, at some point he's had Now, he's
had defensive coaches and defensive cultures. But I've seen justin
fields play nobody. You know, it's just And now he's
got a rookie defensive head coach. I think I think
it's played out. I think he'll be fine. I don't.
I think he works hard, and I think he's got
a good army moves, but I don't think that's I
(38:40):
don't think he's taken him. That's a fourth place, third place,
fourth place team.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
That's what it is, all right, speaking of a third
or fourth place team. The Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, they're talking
about Micah Parsons and giving him a contract extension. He's
entering the final year of his deal and he's gonna
make twenty four mil. Parsons has hinted that he won't
do any on field working till he has a new deal.
Stephen Jones broke down where things stand in the contract negotiations.
Speaker 11 (39:05):
I've never been one to crystal ball when contract get died.
I mean, you can be close, you think you're right
around the corner, and then they get pushed out, and
there's extenuating circumstances as to why they you know them
or their agent don't want to pull the triggers. So
you know, this is just a work in progress. It's
so very easy to comment on them because you really
(39:26):
don't know where you are till both sides are ready
to go. But you know, obviously our goal is to
and we have you know, visited at times with Micah
and our goals to get him here. And I think
Michael wants to be a cowboy, and we want him
to be a cowboy long term.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
All right, well, let's uh, there's your cowboys coverture today,
ladies and gentlemen, Let's get back to the NBA column
where the Warriors dropped Game four of the Wolves last night.
Now down three to one, headed back to Minnesota, and
we got some bad news for you. Stef Curry saying
even if I wanted to be Superman, I couldn't says
he's not gonna play in Game five tomorrow due to
(40:05):
the hamstring.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
It's over now.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
If they Warriors could.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Somehow win and force Game six, it gives Stephan additional
couple days of recovery. They're now reports that Jimmy Butler
looked like garbage last night because he was feeling sick.
He was great in Game three, Butler went all out
tried to get him the win.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
They couldn't.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
I don't want to say the Warriors are done, but
this season's over.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I don't know where they go from here.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
They're becoming Milwaukee in the West. They're becoming yeah, in
the better West. They're becoming Milwaukee with a better culture
and coach. They've got one great player, a good player
they're getting, you know, I mean, they played thirteen fourteen
guys without Steph. They don't have an answer.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Can we get creative and get them a star? I
just don't know what the path is.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Well, Kaminga is going to get you something, because when
Steph hasn't played, he's been twenty at nine, he'll be there's.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Going to be a losses. That's like Jordan Poole could
give you twenty in loss.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
No, but he Jminga isn't immature. He just doesn't work
in that offense. When Butler and Draymond are on the floor.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
It's interesting and there's a big story here somewhere with
Steph Curry point, Klay Thompson was tremendous, Draymond was amazing,
Jordan Poole was fricking outstanding. Jonathan Kamenka couldn't get on
the court. Now, No Curry and Draymond. I mean he's
extremely limited plays in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
How did he do nothing? Great?
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Kaminga now playing scoring and they're getting a butts kick.
Jordan pools terrible in watching it. Curry, you know, you
don't want to act like he made all these guys,
but he changes so much.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
You take Curry off the Warriors, they're not only average,
they are hard to watch.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
That's twenty five thirty.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It's lacrosse players and guys from the Netherlands. Like, it's
just not it's not a good watch.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I think this actually bolsters Curry's like like a historical legacy.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
There you go, yeah, Jmat with the news.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd line.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I do love the reaction from the Dallas Mavericks war
room or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 11 (42:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Now it's hard for me to believe that everybody was
in on it. People are saying, oh, just Nico was
in on it, so whatever. I do love to see
these moments when people learn, they get ecstatic. It's a
collection of people, you know. It's like when you watch
March Madness and you get invited in your Akron or something,
and his stuff is so cool. Sports is so cool.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
So let me ask you. I'm Nico Harrison. You're one
of the guys in the war room.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Tell me. Do you trade Cooper Flag? Do you keep him?
Do you trade for you?
Speaker 1 (42:36):
What do you do? Like?
Speaker 3 (42:36):
There's so many options.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Go home. I'm gonna let Ad come back and Kyrie
and Cooper Flag lively and have a really nice playoff team.
I'm in the minority. I understood, I understood moving off Luca.
I just wish they would have gotten Austin Reeves Ad
in three ones. But I get considering it never in shape,
no defense. Laker fans saw it
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