April 16, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin shares his bold predictions for the upcoming NBA playoffs
It's looking like Jaden Daniels might go number 2 in the NFL draft
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, here we go, it's our two. It's great
to be here. Thanks Darryl Moury, seventy six ers president.
I think they're gonna beat Miami, then beat the Knicks.
We'll get to that in a second. Nick right around
the corner. Jmac a very rambunctious first hour. I don't
consider him hot, takes lukewarm, but the laser vision to
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be able to see through things, I think they're gonna land.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh, by the way, you hear now the betting markets
have Jayden Daniels going number two to Caleb who was
on that A wee could go.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I think we're the betting markets way way wrong. All
last draft.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I mean, yeah, a lot of people cleaned up if
you faded the betting market.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
So there's some gamesmanship happening. This is Jadan Daniel stuff.
Who was it that came on? Was it Manginie who
was like, Jade and Daniel, are you glaud of your mind?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Somebody came on here recently and was like, no, might
have been your boy Merrill Hodge, who I greatly disagree with.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yes, you do all right. So last year, on this day,
I made five bold NBA predictions. Four ended up being right.
I said the Sixers won't get past the second round.
I said, health, not the opponent, will dictate the Lakers' success,
and Ad and Lebron were healthy in the playoffs they
got the conference finals. I said the Sons are going
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to roll the Clippers. The Warriors will win a physical
series with the Kings. By the way, you all love Sacramento.
And then I said you'd complain about the officiating. Old
teams will flourish. I was wrong, Although I did say
Miami was going to surprise people, but I was wrong
on that. So I'm gonna make five bold, you know,
reasonably bold prediction. I mean, I'm not having Denver out
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in the first round, so you know, don't hold your breath.
My first one is the Thunder, the number one seed
are going to win one series Max than they're out
the youngest number one seed ever, very dependent on SGA,
who's a wonderful player, but he's the only guy average
in over twenty and playoff defense. Titans up and you
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make the star really have to earn his points. They
would also face the Clippers of the MAVs, more veteran
players in round two. They are not your typical number
one seed. I love the decade going forward, but this
number one seed will get extinguished very quickly. The second
one is the Suns. The Phoenix. Suns will course correct
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and they'll beat the Tea Wolves. I've gone back and
forth on this. First of all, Grayson Allen actually became
a really really good piece for them. Bradley Beale, finally healthy,
has been absolutely on fire. And you know what they say,
styles make fights in the the NBA playoffs, Like Indiana
is a bad matchup for Milwaukee, Phoenix is a bad
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matchup for Minnesota. So you've got guys with playoff experience,
You've got Bradley Beal, healthy and on fire. I think
the t Wolves get bounced first series, the Clippers will
unravel in spectacular fashion, and Mount Ballmer will rrupt Westbrook.
Should you start him now for defense. Harden's last couple
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of playoff series haven't been great. Kawhi might not play.
There's resentment there. I love Tyler as a coach, but
I think Paul George is just about over it. You
just don't know what you get. Eight straight missed games
by Kawhi with the knee injury. I've got more questions
than I do answers. They'll unravel, the MAVs will beat them,
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the Lakers will get through the plan, and the Warriors won't.
First of all, Sacramento, I'll take them tonight, but then
they'd have to beat the Lakers, who they hammered when
Ad was out. They won't, or the Pelicans, and I
don't think it's a great matchup. Listen, the Lakers matchup
very well with New Orleans. They hammered him every time
they played this year, almost every time you saw the
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first half the other night. They have length, they have size.
Lebron just dominates any game against Zion. I think he's
seven to one against Zion. Lakers are a great matchup
against the Pels. And I think if they had to
face Golden State after getting hammered at home without Ad,
no way the Warriors shoot like that, so I think
the Lakers get through the play and the Warriors don't.
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And finally, I know we love the Knicks, but they
are so dependent on Jalen Brunson. You can win with
one star and energy in the regular season, especially at
the end of the regular season where half the teams
feel like they're tanking. You're not feating Philadelphia or Miami
with one guy. So I think the Knicks right now
are a better story than they are a team. I
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love Brunson and the direction they're going. I think Philadelphia
would beat him in about six, Miami five or six.
So there's my bold predictions to Nick right now joins
us Live. First things first, all right, pick them apart.
Is there any one of those that you just think
is egregiously wrong?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Well, I don't know if we can throw all five
back on the screen, but I gotta tell you something
con cow heard. This might be a five for five.
I love four of them and I'm the one. So
thunder win one series Max is less an indictment on
them and more of the fact that in round two
they're going to be playing Dallas, because Dallas is going
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to beat the Clippers. As you are saying in point three,
and I think Dallas is going to the Conference finals
at a minimum. So I one and three we're in
total lockstep. The Lakers are going to win tonight and
then we can talk more about a Lakers Nugget series,
which I think is more intriguing than people give it
credit for. And this is not an indictment on the Knicks,
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but it is really a testament to what Thibodeau has
done and what Jalen Brunton has done. But because of
the injuries and because they play so hard all year, yep,
they don't really have an extra gear for the postseason.
And so I totally agree with one, three, four and five.
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Number two I could see happening. And I think that
the Timberwolves trying to work back in Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
We have to see how that goes.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
I'm not sure if I'm going to pick that one,
but one, three, four and five I love And this
can pardon me, The Suns beating the Timberwolves certainly plausible.
I'm not sure if it's my pick, but I think
those are actually really good bold predictions.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, I'm gonna throw this at you. I said if
you have an MVP vote, SGA, Luca or Jokic that
you can make an argument on Luca because of this.
First of all, all of them statistically are great, but
Luca has been able to overcome, like leb Jawn did briefly,
Kyrie's drama, and it's not a small thing. He unraveled
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the Celtics. Brooklyn was a mess, considered difficult or a
bust in Cleveland. Lebron solved that Rubik's cube for a
couple of years and then it went sideways and Kyrie
goes to Luca. It was a little noisy year one. Actually,
I think I'd give it to Luca because I think
valuable means what did I overcome? I think that's a
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real thing, and if Luca gets it, I have no
problem your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well, I agree with a ton of that. I listen.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
J Max's been calling Luca the best player in the
world for at least a few months now, and as
much as I love Luca, I don't think that's a
title he can hold until he at least shows up
in a finals. But I agree with you, and I
think I agree with j Mack. He's the MVP this
year and it is what you said. Now, Kyrie deserves
credit himself for not creating drama, for playing his outstanding
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as he did by his standards, having a relatively healthy season,
and Kyrie had a great year. But what your point,
which is Kyrie has never been a part of winning
basketball except for the three years alongside Lebron James, and
now he is again, so Luca does get credit for that.
He also just had a banana's season in the in
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all of NBA since the merger. In the NBA, the
only people to ever in a full season average more
points per game than Luca did this year are Michael Jordan,
Kobe Bryant, and James Harden.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
That's the list.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
You add to it that he had nine rebounds in
nine assists, so he created you know, fifty plus combined
point rebounds in the sists per game. The team was
the hottest team in the league the last two months
of the year, fifteen to two in their last seventeen games.
They then rested games eighty one and eighty two. The
team defense got better, and after Kyrie, you don't have
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a single top one hundred player in the league on
that roster. They still won fifty games My ballot would
be Luca barely edging out Jokic, and then a clear
number three in SGA, who I think had a phenomenal
season but not as good as Luka or Jokic. And listen,
some people can take issue with this, but when it's
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as close as Luca and Jokic, are I do give
the tie to the.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Guy who hasn't won one yet.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Yeah, And like if Jokic hadn't won one yet, you'd say, Okay, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Definitely his time.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
It's kind of how I felt last year with Embiid.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
This is why guys like.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Lebron Kareem and Jordan, instead of having ten or twelve MVPs,
they have six, five and four because when there's another
great player who's having a great season they and hasn't
won one yet, they typically give it to him. I
think Luca the team won enough games. I think he
deserves it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I went and watched the Lakers Warriors about ten days
ago because I thought it was the last chance maybe
to see Stephan Clay and my take after watching the
games was Steve Kerr is running a lot of the
offense through Clay Thompson, sending a message to Joe Lacob
please out bit Orlando. We need we have no size,
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we need shooters and Clay had a really good April.
Do you think it's Stephan plays? I mean, if they
lose to Sacramento, I tend to think they'll win tonight,
but they can't beat they won't beat the pels of
the Lakers. Do you think they'll blow that thing up?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Well?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, I mean I think that. Listen.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
I think tonight's two and a half point spread, so
obviously either team could win. I think Sacramento is going
to win tonight, even though that the Sacramento since the
Malik Monk injury in particular, has not looked great in
that building. This would be the biggest win for the
Kings in twenty years because to your point, I mean,
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this is a Bay Area not rivalry, because the Warriors
have been so much better. But you know that the
fans is Kings fans don't love Warriors fans, and Warriors
fans don't care about Kings fans. So I think this
will be a big home court advantage. But to your point, Colin,
and I don't think this has gotten enough attention. I
think we are less than twelve hours away from the
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final game Steph, Clay and Draymond play together. I think
that Clay is not on the team next year. When
Clay said on Draymond's podcast that you know, of course
he wants to stay a Warrior, but he has to
prioritize things such as his mental health, that made me
feel like, oh, this has not been fun for him.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He is not happy.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
When you see Steph dealing with the drama he dealt
with on the court in the game Draymond got kicked
out of, it just feels like this is.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
The last stand.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
And so yeah, for what, I think this Warriors team
is the fourth greatest NBA dynasty ever Russell Celtics, Jordan's Bulls,
In Magic's Lakers, and then this Warriors run. I would
have that ahead of the Shaq Kobe Lakers. And I
think the last game they played together as a threesome
is tonight.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah. So I want to throw up this new Olympic
team going to Paris. There's like one more spot. And
I said, I tend to like new things over old things.
But when you put in the dream team against this team,
if you took Lebron and Steph off it and they've
been in eleven finals and thirteen years. They are clearly
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the old guard. They have carried this league of physically
interest ratings when you go old and new. This is
a bit of an indictment on our AA team. USA
is a lot of guys who I don't know if
they're in their prime. Jason Tatum, will you take the
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big shot booker scores? But they were awful in Phoenix
before k D and Chris Paul. I think Dream Team
would house these guys in their prime.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Okay, well hold on, that is wait a minute, Wait
a minute. This is why you can't say take Lebron
and Steph off it.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
That's not a thing.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Can't be like, hey, take two of the best guys
off it and let's go. Let's be let's not do
I understand, and you don't do this, but a lot
of people do. Revisionists and then put that back on
the screen if we can ye revisionists. Basketball History nineteen
ninety two.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Larry Bird was cooked.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
He was done. He was not prime, not close. His
back had given out. True Magic Johnson had already announced
his retirement. Okay, Christian Latner was not in the NBA yet.
Chris Mullen was fine. So that's four guys we can
kind of dismiss to begin with Barkley, Maloney, Ewing, David Robinson,
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all those guys, John Stockton. None of them in nineteen
ninety two had ever been to an NBA finals. None
of them in nineteen two had actually ever been close
to an NBA finals. So you have on that team.
The only champions on that team were Jordan, Magic and Bird,
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and Magic was retired and Bird was about to. So
I'm not gonna let you all of a sudden be like,
oh yeah back.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
In my day. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
And if you give me, if you're telling me, I
can have this. Like everyone is transported to their Apex prime.
So you get Lebron from ten years ago, Step from
three years ago, all of that. That that's a different
But same with the Dream Team.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's it. That's a different story. But I don't I'm
not gonna all.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Of a sudden romanticize the nineteen ninety two Dream Team
got enough credit in the in real time. I don't
think we have to now all of a sudden tear
down the twenty twenty four Dream Team to build it up.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
All right, You can have Bama to buy you. Yeah,
I'm gonna take David Robinson. That's just how I see
the word.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Okay, that's fine. You can have Christian Latner. All take
Devin Booker.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I mean, what what do you do it?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
And off the top, you dismissed Lebron instead. How does
that dream team look without Michael and Charles like, come like,
we gotta we gotta be fair, Colin, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So I mean, Lebron is gonna be forty. But whatever,
I don't mean, I'm not I'm not an agist. He's
pretty good. He's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
He's pretty good. But you but but Bird was Bird
couldn't move, Bird threw.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
His back out, repaved in his driveway and couldn't move anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, but Bird was like the seventh best player on
that team. Lebron's the best on this team. That's kind
of scary.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Well, that's it's a testament to Lebron. James talk about
that all NBA.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, fair enough. Finally, I do look at the Lakers
and I think I actually think they match up pretty well.
I think old teams have to be situationally strategic. So
you know, I don't have a problem. Like the Warriors
sitting out a bunch of players so they're ready to
go tonight. I think the old players sit Embeid so
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he's ready for the I think that's just that's that's
called strategy, and I'm okay with it. In all of
our sports, you believe the Lakers are best served not
doing what Jay Mack and I say, which is lose tonight,
rest Lebron.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
You're gonna end up beating your minds. You guys are
out of your minds. Okay, so this old I don't
know how much time we have, go ahead, But okay,
first of all, you if you you're saying throw the game,
throw the game and then.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Play, play Thursday.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
So on Thursday you would either be playing the Kings,
who swept you this year because ad oddly cannot meet
Demonts Sabonis, or the Warriors, who just showed you a
week ago they can hit twenty six threes in a game.
So but set that aside. That's not even why it's
so ludicrous. The reason why it's so ludicrous is this.
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If we all agree that the only chance the Lakers
have of making the NBA Finals is beating the Denver Nuggets.
The only round they have any shot of doing it
is Round one. They can't it. The only path Colin
is Denver. When you have as much rest as possible
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four days before game one, when Lebron and ad are
both fully healthy as they are now, when you have
two or three days between most games, and when Lebron
is absolutely rolling and the Nuggets oddly are coming off
a weird stretch where they blew a seventeen point lead
and I gotta have it game to the Spurs in
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Game eighty one last year, All four of those games
were locked going into.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
The fourth quarter or in the fourth quarter, and what happened.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Lebron six weeks into the playoffs was out of gas
and he didn't have great fourth quarters, and Lebron was
ice cold from three. Right now, he is healthy, and
they would be rested between games because it's not every
other night. I'm not saying the Lakers would beat the Nuggets.
What I'm saying is the only chance they have of
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beating the Nuggets is if they play them in Round one.
So of course, that you win tonight, you get four
days off, and you say, let's see if Jamal Murray
can average thirty three points a game, as he did
in the last time we played him in the playoffs.
Let's see if Lebron shoots twenty one from three as
he did last time against the Nuggets.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
So you don't lose tonight to have to play a
must win game against a team that owns you or
a legend in Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That's a banana's opinion. It's an insane thing to say,
and you.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Would not actually tell the Lakers to do it if
you were coaching them, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I would go to Rob Polenka and suggest it because
my take is that they went to Boston and one
I think they could win without Lebron on the floor. Tonight.
I went to Boston without Ad and Lebron and beat
the Celtics.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
But does Lebron look tired? You see him on Sunday.
The guys out there Zion Williams has drafted fifteen years
after him. As the idea is, this is the greatest
athlete gun league since Lebron.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Lebron made him look like a small child. Lebron is rolling, like,
let's just keep it rolling.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Beat the Nuggets, and that would be spitting in the
face of the basketball gods.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Now, I don't know what you're at.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
You know how much you believe in the basketball gods,
but you don't want to test the basketball gods. Go win,
handle your business and let you think you think Lebron.
Like if Lebron was given a truth serum, I was asked, Hey,
if you're fully healthy, which you are right now, who's
better you were?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Nikola Jokic? How's he answering it?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
He wants this opportunity, even if it's foolish.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I think they win. I think they play the Nuggets
and then we see.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
First things first, he's a little under the weather, but
nonetheless brought his a game today. I do well.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Just I lost my voice.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
I apologize, but I feel great and I'll see everybody
about ninety minutes.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Thank you, Colin.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
All right. First things first, is after our show, nick Wright,
I thought our suggestion had a lot made a lot
of sense. Big picture, just say, Lebron sit tonight. AD's
got back spasms. I don't buy the Sacramento thing. I've
never bought in the light the beam thing. I think
they lose tonight. I just don't buy him. I think
in a big now they don't have again the sixth
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man of the year. They don't have Monk off the bench.
It's not a full strang Sacramento team. It's very dependent
on de Aaron Fox doing it.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Mike Brown is starting the undrafted Keon Ellis.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
He's got some love affair with him, even though they
have Davion Mitchell, who we loved it Baylor, I mean
the guy.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Mike Brown's a great coach, great smart mind. I don't.
We'll see what he pulls out of that tonight.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
All right.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
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Speaker 1 (20:59):
Oh, it is so great to be here today. Do
you know we have a weight room? Do you know
a workout room on campus here? I slipped past it today.
I was thinking of getting a workout.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
In my little pump man.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, no, I've been there before.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Nice throw some weights.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Around for me, just throwing some plates around me.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Just getting energized for the NBA planned games that start tonight.
Very excited for it. I'll take the Warriors close over Sacramento.
Who is plagued by some injuries, and the Warriors are
well rested. Plus I like in these big spots Golden State.
Then I don't think they won another playing game.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
You said you're getting excited. Tank top season right around
the corner.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I'm haven't on a tank top since maybe the eighties.
I don't need to be seen in the tank top.
It's just certain people know what they would wear.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well. You your your arms.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Are kind of pasty. You do need a little bit
of a tan.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
By the way, we should do some kind of NBA
jersey thing where we get you in an NBA jersey.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, let's do that next year. J Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
No, no, turn on the news. This is the herd
Line News.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Let's start with the best football team in the AFC East.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
The New York Jets kicked off their voluntary off season
program yesterday. I guess who was there? Aaron Rodgers No
Darkness retreat this spring. He was in attendance for day one.
Good sign for the Jets. He did not attend all
of it last year. I'm sure he's looking around and
be like, Oh, we got a squad. Now, we got
Mike Williams.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Up in here. We got right.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
We got some guys. Yeah, tough not to get excited.
But I did this last year and I don't. I
don't need to be heartbroken.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I saw a picture of him walking in had the shade,
the aviator glasses on. He was in a really good mood,
he had his hoodie on. Looks like he was in
very good shape. Reportedly he's put on some weight. He's
gotten a little thicker because that banged up old line
in front of him. So the word on the street
is Aaron is beefed up a little bit, a little
heavier this year. Oh, I'm excited to see some practice video.
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Will that get released or will they squelch that?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I think he's problem.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I think he's saving that for the uh whatever streaming
show he's gonna release.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
But where are you on aviators?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I call them hater blockers because they reject you know,
you look in the aviators.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
They reject off Roger's setting a signal on day one. Huh.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't have any aviator glasses. I think they look
they look good on certain guy. Pilots wear them. Obviously,
you know pilots aren't doing ray bands, they're doing the
aviator thing. I don't wear them, but they look good
on other people.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
I know your social media guys.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I saw you guys just filming a TikTok here, So
maybe we need you in an NBA jersey with some aviators.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
That's a that's a look.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
That's a terrible look for me tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Next up the Houston Texans. A lot of hype this offseason.
This is a team on the rise. Added to Von Diggs,
Joe Mixon, Danielle Hunter, and this team is really on
the uptick. They spent one hundred and seventy eight and
a half million this offseason and guaranteed money, fourth most
in the NFL. You could do that when your quarterback's
on a rookie deal. Demiko Ryans is not paying attention
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to the hype.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
We're always hunting expectation on the outside.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Whatever that may be, it really doesn't change who we are,
right it doesn't. The expectations outside don't permeate inside our building,
and we don't care about expectations. Talk doesn't win games.
We have to go out and play good football when
that time comes.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Very excited, I was gonna downgrade him. I know this
this division. Actually, we've always looked at it this kind
of weak Jags. Trevor Lawrence is back Houston another great offseason.
Anthony Richardson back with a great coach. How about this?
This this division ends up being one of the top
three divisions in football. We've always thought it's like the
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NFC South, it's weaklings. I don't think it is.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Well, somebody's gonna miss the playoffs. Texas is missing the
play We know that. Using three teams to playoff.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Now, no, I think. But they're all feel playoff viable.
I think a lot of it will be health. I
worry about Anthony Richardson's playing style and health. J Stroud
sits in the pocket. Trevor Lawrence mostly sits in the pocket.
Anthony part of his game is moving. I mean he
got banged up last year more than once before the
season ended, so I worry about that.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Here's the problem. The schedule orders not out, but the
opponents have been released. Texans will play a first place schedule.
Here are their road gimes. Okay, let's here at Dallas,
at Green Bay, at Minnesota, at the Chiefs, at the Jets.
They got smashed by the Jets outdoors in the rain
last year, and then the last one's Patriots. Now at home,
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they get the Ravens, they get the Bills, they get
the Dolphins, Bears, Lions, Colin, that schedule is brutal.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, it's a tough schedule. So again I'm not we're
not talking a twelve win team here, We're talking a
ten win team.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
This is why the Colts are the bed in that.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Day, Colt.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah again, Shane Steichen.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
They're not the their scheduled, they get the weaker opponents. Yes, Houston,
because the first place has to play.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I mean no, the schedule. You know, I think you
and I agree on this. We've always been big schedule guys.
I think the schedule the NFL and when you play
teams and what teams you play. Houston schedule, it's why
I downgraded them. I said, go look at their schedule.
It's just gonna because you know the teams they were
gonna play. It's brutal. Like have you seen Atlanta's schedule,
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Cupcake City? Have you seen the Chargers schedule? Tough?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Not great?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
No, they were bad last year. It's probably good, pretty
doable schedule.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah, listen, man, last year we talked about remember the Lions.
We looked at the schedule.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
We're like, holy count, Jared Goff has to go outdoors
like twice all season and like no times in December.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
It's like, Wow, that's.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
A big win.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
If you could get those indoor games in December January,
that's not bad at all.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You want that.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Final story is in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
We'll go to the Bucks and Pacers first round playoff series.
Kind of spicy Milwaukee struggle against Indy this year one
and four, putting a loss in the end season tournament.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
A lot of trash talk between these two.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Lot has change for the Bucks, mud Doc Rivers believes
that things are going to be better, and Damian Lillard
is very fired up.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
We've just been through a lot since then. You know,
we've had some down moments. Then we've come back from
those moments and then we h you get a new coach,
and then we have a different way about us, different thing,
different style of play, just so many different things we've
learned about ourselves, you know, just from going through stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, it depends on If Janni's plays five games in
the series, they probably win. If he doesn't, they lose.
He's gonna miss game one.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
From woes within the last hour is that the Bucks
are prepared to be without Giannis for the.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Start of the series.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So that's that's two games.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Sounds like it.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
If they just gonna miss game one, they say he'll
be's out game one, but the start of the series
I think is two games with the hope that he
returns later from this calf injury. Now, let's be real.
If you're Yannis, are you pushing it the calf? Well,
killing do not want to risk it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Calves tend to be injury that you think you've recovered from,
so you push it and re injure it. That's just
like the history of the calf. Kevin Durant, I've then,
I've injured my calf twice. Both times I came back
to early. Both times. I didn't feel it. Both times.
I'm like, yeah, tweaks a little, it's fine. So you
know Jannis is itching to get back. So listen again.
If I get Yannis the last four games of the series,
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I like my chances. If not, I'll take Indiana.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I think Pacers plus money is a smart There's gonna
be several upsets in the first round East and West, well,
several seven games. You and I both have Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, that's kind of an upset. I mean, K D.
Booker and Beale doesn't feel like a one to eight
hockey upset. I mean, I'm sorry, Grayson Allen's playing great.
I mean, they got four guys that can hit three years.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Well upset from a home court perspective, MAVs are the five.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, the MAVs are first of all, the KOHI may
not play, so if the Clippers lose, that's not a
big upset.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
You said the Sixers over the Necks. I disagree, but.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
They like the Knicks over the Sixers.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Who's the second and Jalen runs and eye trust my friend.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You know, these end of the year winning streaks are
always vocal. Yeah, they're fools gold in the NBA because
half the teams you play are literally tanking, and then
the star teams are generally resting guys. They lower minutes
for their stars. So you can go in to nine
game winning streak when ten of eleven in the NBA
at the end of the season, you're like, two legitimate
close wins is about all I can like with Philadelphia
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Here begins to the reigning national champion Michigan Wolverines with
their annual Mazing Boo Game as new head coach Sharon
Moore looks to see who will rise.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Up to lead this year's team.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
The Michigan Spring game is Saturday, at noon Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Ohio State wins the Natti. Michigan pulls way way back
eight wins. I'd have to see the schedule closer to seven.
They're gonna pull way back. Can't lose eighteen players. Harball
your star corp, orderback your offensive line. Conference gets much better.
Schedule's much tougher. For years and years. Let's be honest
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about the Big Ten. The only team Michigan and Ohio
State ever played that had the same level of talent
was each other, Ohio State and Michigan Michigan Ohio State.
Now you throw a Washington and Oregon and USC schedule
is gonna be much much tougher. We're gonna be talking
Caitlin Clark a lot more than Iowahawkeye football from this
point forward. It's just Iowa was always kind of a
(31:29):
second tier Big Ten team. What happened to the Michigan State's, Iowa's,
Minnesota's that were sort of a notch below the big dogs?
Do they go a notch below the teams that are
notch below Michigan Ohio State. That's my guess. By the way,
the betting markets, we've always said the truth serum is
people who bet sports because they care about one thing
(31:52):
getting it right. As we told you a week ago,
Jaden Daniels would be the number two pick in the
draft after Kayleb Williams. I have been told from a
source ide trust that Washington prefers Jaden Daniels. Well, what
do you know? The betting markets now have Jade and
(32:14):
Daniels pulling away from Drake May as the number two pick.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
So why?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
First of all, Jaden Daniels is much better at throwing
the ball forty touchdown passes, four picks this year and
a seventy two percent completion percentage. He's a better thrower
than Drake May. He also is a better runner than
Drake May eleven hundred rushing yards and ten tds. He
also played in a much better conference than Drake May.
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Acc was mostly terrible this year, the SEC was, as
usual good. Of the six potential first round quarterbacks, there
are only two that are crazy athletic, really consistent, accurate,
and highly productive Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams. Drake May
is inconsistent, JJ McCarthy wasn't wildly productive. Bo Nicks isn't
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crazy athletic, and Michael Pennix, as much as I like him,
is sort of a pocket guy. So with Jayden Daniels
you get six three and a half athletic, consistent, accurate, productive.
If you look at Cliff Kingsbury's career, he has had
success with accurate quarterbacks who are athletic. That is exactly
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what Jaden Daniels is. So in the SEC he averaged
four hundred yards a game throwing. I mean JJ McCarthy
had won three hundred yard game and his biggest games
were against the worst teams overwhelmingly. So we told you
that's what was coming down the pike. Jaden Daniels is
going to be the number two pick now. Can things change? Absolutely?
(33:52):
That's Cliff Kingsbury's got some saying this and his take
is Jaden Daniels is the guy now. Drake May did
not have a great Pro day Jade and Daniels just
kind of threw it to very good players. He moved
a little bit, but in terms of Pro Day, Jade
and Daniels was considered having the better Pro day as well.
So there you go. The two most athletic, consistent, productive
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quarterbacks will go one and two us c's and then
LSU's that's what i'm That's what I'm told the draft
will work out, and for the record, I think it works.
I was initially much higher on Drake May, but the
more I listen to people, the more inconsistencies they were
concerned about. So there you go. So tonight it's very
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possible we could go a little over a week, aldgo
J McK and I went to the Warriors Lakers and
one of the reasons I went he talked me into it.
Then I kind of disengaged and got better seats. But
basically what happened is I thought, so it's the last
time to see Steph clan Raymond together after this great
dynastic run. And so tonight they play Sacramento. I think
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the Warriors win tonight close. It's a go either way game,
but I don't think they can beat the Pelicans or
the Lakers, and they have to win two games to
get out of the plan in and I just think
it's the end of the dynasty. Over the next couple
of days, and Nick right earlier on why tonight could
be the end of the Warriors run, I don't.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Think this has gotten enough attention.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
I think we are less than twelve hours away from
the final game. Steph, Clay and Draymond play together. I
think that Clay is not on the team next year.
When Clay said on Draymond's podcast that you know, of
course he wants to stay a Warrior, but he has
to prioritize things such as his mental health, that made
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me feel like, oh, this has not been fun for him.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
He is not happy. When you see Steph.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Dealing with the drama he dealt with on the court
in the game Draymond got kicked out of, it just
feels like this is the last stand.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's interesting about dynasties for a variety of reasons. If
you if Denver wins this year, I tend to think
you got to get to three straight finals and win
a couple of them. That feels like a dynasty. You
don't have to win every super Bowl. New England didn't,
Kansas City got housed by Brady and the Bucks. But
you start looking at dynasties. So if Denver wins this year,
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you're close to a current dynasty being in the West.
The previous dynasty the Warriors in the West, the one
before that the Spurs with as it was in the
West and the one before that was the Lakers. So
you know, you start looking at the all time great dynasties,
the length of them, It's like Celtics with Russell, MJ's
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Bulls got six and then the Warriors. What do you
think Magic kareem in that. I mean, if all time,
I mean it's all time great dynasties Celtics and Russell.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Wait wait, why are we counting Celtics and Russell? There
was like twelve teams in the league.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Stop that.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It was like a.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Different time in a mirror in the world. No, Russell's
Celtics can be taking pre NBA.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
So where so if Michael's dynasty was arguably the greatest team,
that's the greatest team.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
I would say they were number two behind the KD.
Curry Clay Draymond Warriors. That twenty seventeen team.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
That well, that's just an individual team. I'm talking that,
you know, because the Warriors had multiple changes, the Bulls
had multiple Let's just count it as a one dynasty
because they won pre KD post KD. If you're talking
dynasties overall, I think in a modern era, Shaq and
Kobe and MJ's Bulls.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
I mean, I'm sorry, but Lebron made the finals by
himself four four times in a row with Miami, then
four times in a row with Cleveland by himself.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
So the Lebron they they are one shot from Ray
Allen away from going one for three. They were not
a dominant finals eight years in a row. Jordan's Bulls
made it three, then Michael had to quit and you know,
recharge the batteries, take a year and a half, and
then won three again after two more years.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
So like three two years off and then three more
like Lebron's is way more impressive. Eight straight years going
to the finals. Yeah, but it's unheard of. Six for
six is more impressive. I mean magic, Magic got to
nine five, but not in a row.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Lebron eight finals in a row.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
That's absurd.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
The East has always been Colin.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
It's an extra twenty playoff games every year for Lebron,
like the tread on those tires.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So if I said you take the Russell Celtics out
because that's the handdown winner of the greatest dynasty ever eleven,
I mean that Russell won eleven.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Yeah, when there was four teams in the league.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Chair Okay, rank the dynasties in fact, in fact, I'll
give you this defined dynasty.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
First, how many do you need?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I think you gotta win. You gotta win three, three
in a row or three total. You gotta win three total.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Okay, Steph Curry has a dynasty.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
He's number one, and then Jordan's second.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Jordan second, Magic third were shaking Kobe Shakan Kobe before.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Okay, well who are they?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Are they ahead of mess You don't have the Spurs
anywhere in there.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I would put.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Parker Duncan Popovich.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Yeah, that's that's a tough one. Do they go ahead
of Shaq and Kobe? Shagon Kobe were utterly dominant.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Okay, yeah, Duncan and Spurs.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
They were like grinders for I mean they were winning
finals games like eighty to seventy six.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
It is true. They were more.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
No, no, it's a chip is a chip, but no,
it's it's uh I if I said, you know, it's
so much of it's based on rules. I mean, like
the Baltimore Ravens Super Bowl with Dilferd. They couldn't compete
today because you could do things defensively and they were
built for that. They would just be a team today
they have a bunch of good days. They'd be a
they'd be like they it'd be like current Baltimore where
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they'd have a lot of great players, but you'd be like,
what's the fire power? You gotta be able to score now,
nobody can stop anybody. The Jordan team could use the
hand check, highly physical, super long, but to be honest
with you, they didn't have a lot of three point shooters. Coho,
Coach and kerb were it. So the Warriors with Katie
Stephan Clay with these rules could run them off the
floor because.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
They just shoot them off the floor, annihilate them.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So I mean I always think like the Jordan Bulls
and the Warriors with Kad, those two teams just were
different in their era. Their respect like the pre the
post hand check and the hand check. If you have
a hand check era, the Jordan Bulls are the best ever,
but no hand check in a three ball era, they'd
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run the Bulls off the floor. They have too many shooters.
I mean, who would you put Kad in the corner?
Stephan the wing catch and shoot Clay they just have
I mean they literally the Bulls will be running around
the court.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
So which leads to my point about twenty twenty four
dream Team Avengers, that's what they're calling them, versus.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Ninety two Dream Team. Nick made a good point earlier, Colin.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Guys on the ninety two Dream Team who had made
the NBA finals, there's only four of them. I went
through the rost, Michael, Pippin, Magic, Birden, that's it. Nobody
else to that point had made the finals. Here from
the twenty twenty fourteen these guys had made the NBA finals, Curry,
kd Lebron Booker, Holiday, Tatum, ad Bam.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
It's mostly because Bird, Magic and MJ were so great
they put a yield sign in front of the finals.
You couldn't get this.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
And those guys were all washed.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
McHale and Jabar was really washed.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
He was thirty five years old in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Still hit a jumper. Well, I mean, Michael was still
the best player in the world, and he had just
surpassed Magic, who was the best player in the world.
Like that was a baton past during the Olympics said
they were the two best players in the World's fair
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, here we go, it's our two. It's great
to be here. Thanks Darryl Moury, seventy six ers president.
I think they're gonna beat Miami, then beat the Knicks.
We'll get to that in a second. Nick right around
the corner. Jmac a very rambunctious first hour. I don't
consider him hot, takes lukewarm, but the laser vision to
(00:46):
be able to see through things, I think they're gonna land.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh, by the way, you hear now the betting markets
have Jayden Daniels going number two to Caleb who was
on that A wee could go.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I think we're the betting markets way way wrong. All
last draft.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I mean, yeah, a lot of people cleaned up if
you faded the betting market.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
So there's some gamesmanship happening. This is Jadan Daniel stuff.
Who was it that came on? Was it Manginie who
was like, Jade and Daniel, are you glaud of your mind?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Somebody came on here recently and was like, no, might
have been your boy Merrill Hodge, who I greatly disagree with.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yes, you do all right. So last year, on this day,
I made five bold NBA predictions. Four ended up being right.
I said the Sixers won't get past the second round.
I said, health, not the opponent, will dictate the Lakers' success,
and Ad and Lebron were healthy in the playoffs they
got the conference finals. I said the Sons are going
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to roll the Clippers. The Warriors will win a physical
series with the Kings. By the way, you all love Sacramento.
And then I said you'd complain about the officiating. Old
teams will flourish. I was wrong, Although I did say
Miami was going to surprise people, but I was wrong
on that. So I'm gonna make five bold, you know,
reasonably bold prediction. I mean, I'm not having Denver out
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in the first round, so you know, don't hold your breath.
My first one is the Thunder, the number one seed
are going to win one series Max than they're out
the youngest number one seed ever, very dependent on SGA,
who's a wonderful player, but he's the only guy average
in over twenty and playoff defense. Titans up and you
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make the star really have to earn his points. They
would also face the Clippers of the MAVs, more veteran
players in round two. They are not your typical number
one seed. I love the decade going forward, but this
number one seed will get extinguished very quickly. The second
one is the Suns. The Phoenix. Suns will course correct
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and they'll beat the Tea Wolves. I've gone back and
forth on this. First of all, Grayson Allen actually became
a really really good piece for them. Bradley Beale, finally healthy,
has been absolutely on fire. And you know what they say,
styles make fights in the the NBA playoffs, Like Indiana
is a bad matchup for Milwaukee, Phoenix is a bad
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matchup for Minnesota. So you've got guys with playoff experience,
You've got Bradley Beal, healthy and on fire. I think
the t Wolves get bounced first series, the Clippers will
unravel in spectacular fashion, and Mount Ballmer will rrupt Westbrook.
Should you start him now for defense. Harden's last couple
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of playoff series haven't been great. Kawhi might not play.
There's resentment there. I love Tyler as a coach, but
I think Paul George is just about over it. You
just don't know what you get. Eight straight missed games
by Kawhi with the knee injury. I've got more questions
than I do answers. They'll unravel, the MAVs will beat them,
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the Lakers will get through the plan, and the Warriors won't.
First of all, Sacramento, I'll take them tonight, but then
they'd have to beat the Lakers, who they hammered when
Ad was out. They won't, or the Pelicans, and I
don't think it's a great matchup. Listen, the Lakers matchup
very well with New Orleans. They hammered him every time
they played this year, almost every time you saw the
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first half the other night. They have length, they have size.
Lebron just dominates any game against Zion. I think he's
seven to one against Zion. Lakers are a great matchup
against the Pels. And I think if they had to
face Golden State after getting hammered at home without Ad,
no way the Warriors shoot like that, so I think
the Lakers get through the play and the Warriors don't.
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And finally, I know we love the Knicks, but they
are so dependent on Jalen Brunson. You can win with
one star and energy in the regular season, especially at
the end of the regular season where half the teams
feel like they're tanking. You're not feating Philadelphia or Miami
with one guy. So I think the Knicks right now
are a better story than they are a team. I
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love Brunson and the direction they're going. I think Philadelphia
would beat him in about six, Miami five or six.
So there's my bold predictions to Nick right now joins
us Live. First things first, all right, pick them apart.
Is there any one of those that you just think
is egregiously wrong?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Well, I don't know if we can throw all five
back on the screen, but I gotta tell you something
con cow heard. This might be a five for five.
I love four of them and I'm the one. So
thunder win one series Max is less an indictment on
them and more of the fact that in round two
they're going to be playing Dallas, because Dallas is going
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to beat the Clippers. As you are saying in point three,
and I think Dallas is going to the Conference finals
at a minimum. So I one and three we're in
total lockstep. The Lakers are going to win tonight and
then we can talk more about a Lakers Nugget series,
which I think is more intriguing than people give it
credit for. And this is not an indictment on the Knicks,
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but it is really a testament to what Thibodeau has
done and what Jalen Brunton has done. But because of
the injuries and because they play so hard all year, yep,
they don't really have an extra gear for the postseason.
And so I totally agree with one, three, four and five.
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Number two I could see happening. And I think that
the Timberwolves trying to work back in Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
We have to see how that goes.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
I'm not sure if I'm going to pick that one,
but one, three, four and five I love And this
can pardon me, The Suns beating the Timberwolves certainly plausible.
I'm not sure if it's my pick, but I think
those are actually really good bold predictions.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, I'm gonna throw this at you. I said if
you have an MVP vote, SGA, Luca or Jokic that
you can make an argument on Luca because of this.
First of all, all of them statistically are great, but
Luca has been able to overcome, like leb Jawn did briefly,
Kyrie's drama, and it's not a small thing. He unraveled
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the Celtics. Brooklyn was a mess, considered difficult or a
bust in Cleveland. Lebron solved that Rubik's cube for a
couple of years and then it went sideways and Kyrie
goes to Luca. It was a little noisy year one. Actually,
I think I'd give it to Luca because I think
valuable means what did I overcome? I think that's a
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real thing, and if Luca gets it, I have no
problem your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well, I agree with a ton of that. I listen.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
J Max's been calling Luca the best player in the
world for at least a few months now, and as
much as I love Luca, I don't think that's a
title he can hold until he at least shows up
in a finals. But I agree with you, and I
think I agree with j Mack. He's the MVP this
year and it is what you said. Now, Kyrie deserves
credit himself for not creating drama, for playing his outstanding
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as he did by his standards, having a relatively healthy season,
and Kyrie had a great year. But what your point,
which is Kyrie has never been a part of winning
basketball except for the three years alongside Lebron James, and
now he is again, so Luca does get credit for that.
He also just had a banana's season in the in
(08:23):
all of NBA since the merger. In the NBA, the
only people to ever in a full season average more
points per game than Luca did this year are Michael Jordan,
Kobe Bryant, and James Harden.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
That's the list.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
You add to it that he had nine rebounds in
nine assists, so he created you know, fifty plus combined
point rebounds in the sists per game. The team was
the hottest team in the league the last two months
of the year, fifteen to two in their last seventeen games.
They then rested games eighty one and eighty two. The
team defense got better, and after Kyrie, you don't have
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a single top one hundred player in the league on
that roster. They still won fifty games My ballot would
be Luca barely edging out Jokic, and then a clear
number three in SGA, who I think had a phenomenal
season but not as good as Luka or Jokic. And listen,
some people can take issue with this, but when it's
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as close as Luca and Jokic, are I do give
the tie to the.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Guy who hasn't won one yet.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Yeah, And like if Jokic hadn't won one yet, you'd say, Okay, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Definitely his time.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
It's kind of how I felt last year with Embiid.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
This is why guys like.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Lebron Kareem and Jordan, instead of having ten or twelve MVPs,
they have six, five and four because when there's another
great player who's having a great season they and hasn't
won one yet, they typically give it to him. I
think Luca the team won enough games. I think he
deserves it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I went and watched the Lakers Warriors about ten days
ago because I thought it was the last chance maybe
to see Stephan Clay and my take after watching the
games was Steve Kerr is running a lot of the
offense through Clay Thompson, sending a message to Joe Lacob
please out bit Orlando. We need we have no size,
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we need shooters and Clay had a really good April.
Do you think it's Stephan plays? I mean, if they
lose to Sacramento, I tend to think they'll win tonight,
but they can't beat they won't beat the pels of
the Lakers. Do you think they'll blow that thing up?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Well?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, I mean I think that. Listen.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
I think tonight's two and a half point spread, so
obviously either team could win. I think Sacramento is going
to win tonight, even though that the Sacramento since the
Malik Monk injury in particular, has not looked great in
that building. This would be the biggest win for the
Kings in twenty years because to your point, I mean,
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this is a Bay Area not rivalry, because the Warriors
have been so much better. But you know that the
fans is Kings fans don't love Warriors fans, and Warriors
fans don't care about Kings fans. So I think this
will be a big home court advantage. But to your point, Colin,
and I don't think this has gotten enough attention. I
think we are less than twelve hours away from the
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final game Steph, Clay and Draymond play together. I think
that Clay is not on the team next year. When
Clay said on Draymond's podcast that you know, of course
he wants to stay a Warrior, but he has to
prioritize things such as his mental health, that made me
feel like, oh, this has not been fun for him.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He is not happy.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
When you see Steph dealing with the drama he dealt
with on the court in the game Draymond got kicked
out of, it just feels like this is.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
The last stand.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
And so yeah, for what, I think this Warriors team
is the fourth greatest NBA dynasty ever Russell Celtics, Jordan's Bulls,
In Magic's Lakers, and then this Warriors run. I would
have that ahead of the Shaq Kobe Lakers. And I
think the last game they played together as a threesome
is tonight.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah. So I want to throw up this new Olympic
team going to Paris. There's like one more spot. And
I said, I tend to like new things over old things.
But when you put in the dream team against this team,
if you took Lebron and Steph off it and they've
been in eleven finals and thirteen years. They are clearly
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the old guard. They have carried this league of physically
interest ratings when you go old and new. This is
a bit of an indictment on our AA team. USA
is a lot of guys who I don't know if
they're in their prime. Jason Tatum, will you take the
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big shot booker scores? But they were awful in Phoenix
before k D and Chris Paul. I think Dream Team
would house these guys in their prime.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Okay, well hold on, that is wait a minute, Wait
a minute. This is why you can't say take Lebron
and Steph off it.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
That's not a thing.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Can't be like, hey, take two of the best guys
off it and let's go. Let's be let's not do
I understand, and you don't do this, but a lot
of people do. Revisionists and then put that back on
the screen if we can ye revisionists. Basketball History nineteen
ninety two.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Larry Bird was cooked.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
He was done. He was not prime, not close. His
back had given out. True Magic Johnson had already announced
his retirement. Okay, Christian Latner was not in the NBA yet.
Chris Mullen was fine. So that's four guys we can
kind of dismiss to begin with Barkley, Maloney, Ewing, David Robinson,
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all those guys, John Stockton. None of them in nineteen
ninety two had ever been to an NBA finals. None
of them in nineteen two had actually ever been close
to an NBA finals. So you have on that team.
The only champions on that team were Jordan, Magic and Bird,
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and Magic was retired and Bird was about to. So
I'm not gonna let you all of a sudden be like,
oh yeah back.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
In my day. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
And if you give me, if you're telling me, I
can have this. Like everyone is transported to their Apex prime.
So you get Lebron from ten years ago, Step from
three years ago, all of that. That that's a different
But same with the Dream Team.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's it. That's a different story. But I don't I'm
not gonna all.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Of a sudden romanticize the nineteen ninety two Dream Team
got enough credit in the in real time. I don't
think we have to now all of a sudden tear
down the twenty twenty four Dream Team to build it up.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
All right, You can have Bama to buy you. Yeah,
I'm gonna take David Robinson. That's just how I see
the word.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Okay, that's fine. You can have Christian Latner. All take
Devin Booker.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I mean, what what do you do it?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
And off the top, you dismissed Lebron instead. How does
that dream team look without Michael and Charles like, come like,
we gotta we gotta be fair, Colin, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So I mean, Lebron is gonna be forty. But whatever,
I don't mean, I'm not I'm not an agist. He's
pretty good. He's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
He's pretty good. But you but but Bird was Bird
couldn't move, Bird threw.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
His back out, repaved in his driveway and couldn't move anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, but Bird was like the seventh best player on
that team. Lebron's the best on this team. That's kind
of scary.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Well, that's it's a testament to Lebron. James talk about
that all NBA.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, fair enough. Finally, I do look at the Lakers
and I think I actually think they match up pretty well.
I think old teams have to be situationally strategic. So
you know, I don't have a problem. Like the Warriors
sitting out a bunch of players so they're ready to
go tonight. I think the old players sit Embeid so
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he's ready for the I think that's just that's that's
called strategy, and I'm okay with it. In all of
our sports, you believe the Lakers are best served not
doing what Jay Mack and I say, which is lose tonight,
rest Lebron.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
You're gonna end up beating your minds. You guys are
out of your minds. Okay, so this old I don't
know how much time we have, go ahead, But okay,
first of all, you if you you're saying throw the game,
throw the game and then.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Play, play Thursday.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
So on Thursday you would either be playing the Kings,
who swept you this year because ad oddly cannot meet
Demonts Sabonis, or the Warriors, who just showed you a
week ago they can hit twenty six threes in a game.
So but set that aside. That's not even why it's
so ludicrous. The reason why it's so ludicrous is this.
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If we all agree that the only chance the Lakers
have of making the NBA Finals is beating the Denver Nuggets.
The only round they have any shot of doing it
is Round one. They can't it. The only path Colin
is Denver. When you have as much rest as possible
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four days before game one, when Lebron and ad are
both fully healthy as they are now, when you have
two or three days between most games, and when Lebron
is absolutely rolling and the Nuggets oddly are coming off
a weird stretch where they blew a seventeen point lead
and I gotta have it game to the Spurs in
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Game eighty one last year, All four of those games
were locked going into.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
The fourth quarter or in the fourth quarter, and what happened.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Lebron six weeks into the playoffs was out of gas
and he didn't have great fourth quarters, and Lebron was
ice cold from three. Right now, he is healthy, and
they would be rested between games because it's not every
other night. I'm not saying the Lakers would beat the Nuggets.
What I'm saying is the only chance they have of
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beating the Nuggets is if they play them in Round one.
So of course, that you win tonight, you get four
days off, and you say, let's see if Jamal Murray
can average thirty three points a game, as he did
in the last time we played him in the playoffs.
Let's see if Lebron shoots twenty one from three as
he did last time against the Nuggets.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
So you don't lose tonight to have to play a
must win game against a team that owns you or
a legend in Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That's a banana's opinion. It's an insane thing to say,
and you.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Would not actually tell the Lakers to do it if
you were coaching them, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I would go to Rob Polenka and suggest it because
my take is that they went to Boston and one
I think they could win without Lebron on the floor. Tonight.
I went to Boston without Ad and Lebron and beat
the Celtics.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
But does Lebron look tired? You see him on Sunday.
The guys out there Zion Williams has drafted fifteen years
after him. As the idea is, this is the greatest
athlete gun league since Lebron.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Lebron made him look like a small child. Lebron is rolling, like,
let's just keep it rolling.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Beat the Nuggets, and that would be spitting in the
face of the basketball gods.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Now, I don't know what you're at.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
You know how much you believe in the basketball gods,
but you don't want to test the basketball gods. Go win,
handle your business and let you think you think Lebron.
Like if Lebron was given a truth serum, I was asked, Hey,
if you're fully healthy, which you are right now, who's
better you were?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Nikola Jokic? How's he answering it?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
He wants this opportunity, even if it's foolish.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I think they win. I think they play the Nuggets
and then we see.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
First things first, he's a little under the weather, but
nonetheless brought his a game today. I do well.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Just I lost my voice.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
I apologize, but I feel great and I'll see everybody
about ninety minutes.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Thank you, Colin.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
All right. First things first, is after our show, nick Wright,
I thought our suggestion had a lot made a lot
of sense. Big picture, just say, Lebron sit tonight. AD's
got back spasms. I don't buy the Sacramento thing. I've
never bought in the light the beam thing. I think
they lose tonight. I just don't buy him. I think
in a big now they don't have again the sixth
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man of the year. They don't have Monk off the bench.
It's not a full strang Sacramento team. It's very dependent
on de Aaron Fox doing it.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Mike Brown is starting the undrafted Keon Ellis.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
He's got some love affair with him, even though they
have Davion Mitchell, who we loved it Baylor, I mean
the guy.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Mike Brown's a great coach, great smart mind. I don't.
We'll see what he pulls out of that tonight.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
All right.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
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Speaker 1 (20:59):
Oh, it is so great to be here today. Do
you know we have a weight room? Do you know
a workout room on campus here? I slipped past it today.
I was thinking of getting a workout.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
In my little pump man.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, no, I've been there before.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Nice throw some weights.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Around for me, just throwing some plates around me.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Just getting energized for the NBA planned games that start tonight.
Very excited for it. I'll take the Warriors close over Sacramento.
Who is plagued by some injuries, and the Warriors are
well rested. Plus I like in these big spots Golden State.
Then I don't think they won another playing game.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
You said you're getting excited. Tank top season right around
the corner.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I'm haven't on a tank top since maybe the eighties.
I don't need to be seen in the tank top.
It's just certain people know what they would wear.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well. You your your arms.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Are kind of pasty. You do need a little bit
of a tan.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
By the way, we should do some kind of NBA
jersey thing where we get you in an NBA jersey.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, let's do that next year. J Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
No, no, turn on the news. This is the herd
Line News.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Let's start with the best football team in the AFC East.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
The New York Jets kicked off their voluntary off season
program yesterday. I guess who was there? Aaron Rodgers No
Darkness retreat this spring. He was in attendance for day one.
Good sign for the Jets. He did not attend all
of it last year. I'm sure he's looking around and
be like, Oh, we got a squad. Now, we got
Mike Williams.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Up in here. We got right.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
We got some guys. Yeah, tough not to get excited.
But I did this last year and I don't. I
don't need to be heartbroken.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I saw a picture of him walking in had the shade,
the aviator glasses on. He was in a really good mood,
he had his hoodie on. Looks like he was in
very good shape. Reportedly he's put on some weight. He's
gotten a little thicker because that banged up old line
in front of him. So the word on the street
is Aaron is beefed up a little bit, a little
heavier this year. Oh, I'm excited to see some practice video.
(22:55):
Will that get released or will they squelch that?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I think he's problem.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I think he's saving that for the uh whatever streaming
show he's gonna release.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
But where are you on aviators?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I call them hater blockers because they reject you know,
you look in the aviators.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
They reject off Roger's setting a signal on day one. Huh.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't have any aviator glasses. I think they look
they look good on certain guy. Pilots wear them. Obviously,
you know pilots aren't doing ray bands, they're doing the
aviator thing. I don't wear them, but they look good
on other people.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
I know your social media guys.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I saw you guys just filming a TikTok here, So
maybe we need you in an NBA jersey with some aviators.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
That's a that's a look.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
That's a terrible look for me tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Next up the Houston Texans. A lot of hype this offseason.
This is a team on the rise. Added to Von Diggs,
Joe Mixon, Danielle Hunter, and this team is really on
the uptick. They spent one hundred and seventy eight and
a half million this offseason and guaranteed money, fourth most
in the NFL. You could do that when your quarterback's
on a rookie deal. Demiko Ryans is not paying attention
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to the hype.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
We're always hunting expectation on the outside.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Whatever that may be, it really doesn't change who we are,
right it doesn't. The expectations outside don't permeate inside our building,
and we don't care about expectations. Talk doesn't win games.
We have to go out and play good football when
that time comes.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Very excited, I was gonna downgrade him. I know this
this division. Actually, we've always looked at it this kind
of weak Jags. Trevor Lawrence is back Houston another great offseason.
Anthony Richardson back with a great coach. How about this?
This this division ends up being one of the top
three divisions in football. We've always thought it's like the
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NFC South, it's weaklings. I don't think it is.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Well, somebody's gonna miss the playoffs. Texas is missing the
play We know that. Using three teams to playoff.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Now, no, I think. But they're all feel playoff viable.
I think a lot of it will be health. I
worry about Anthony Richardson's playing style and health. J Stroud
sits in the pocket. Trevor Lawrence mostly sits in the pocket.
Anthony part of his game is moving. I mean he
got banged up last year more than once before the
season ended, so I worry about that.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Here's the problem. The schedule orders not out, but the
opponents have been released. Texans will play a first place schedule.
Here are their road gimes. Okay, let's here at Dallas,
at Green Bay, at Minnesota, at the Chiefs, at the Jets.
They got smashed by the Jets outdoors in the rain
last year, and then the last one's Patriots. Now at home,
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they get the Ravens, they get the Bills, they get
the Dolphins, Bears, Lions, Colin, that schedule is brutal.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, it's a tough schedule. So again I'm not we're
not talking a twelve win team here, We're talking a
ten win team.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
This is why the Colts are the bed in that.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Day, Colt.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah again, Shane Steichen.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
They're not the their scheduled, they get the weaker opponents. Yes, Houston,
because the first place has to play.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I mean no, the schedule. You know, I think you
and I agree on this. We've always been big schedule guys.
I think the schedule the NFL and when you play
teams and what teams you play. Houston schedule, it's why
I downgraded them. I said, go look at their schedule.
It's just gonna because you know the teams they were
gonna play. It's brutal. Like have you seen Atlanta's schedule,
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Cupcake City? Have you seen the Chargers schedule? Tough?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Not great?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
No, they were bad last year. It's probably good, pretty
doable schedule.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah, listen, man, last year we talked about remember the Lions.
We looked at the schedule.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
We're like, holy count, Jared Goff has to go outdoors
like twice all season and like no times in December.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
It's like, Wow, that's.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
A big win.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
If you could get those indoor games in December January,
that's not bad at all.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You want that.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Final story is in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
We'll go to the Bucks and Pacers first round playoff series.
Kind of spicy Milwaukee struggle against Indy this year one
and four, putting a loss in the end season tournament.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
A lot of trash talk between these two.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Lot has change for the Bucks, mud Doc Rivers believes
that things are going to be better, and Damian Lillard
is very fired up.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
We've just been through a lot since then. You know,
we've had some down moments. Then we've come back from
those moments and then we h you get a new coach,
and then we have a different way about us, different thing,
different style of play, just so many different things we've
learned about ourselves, you know, just from going through stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, it depends on If Janni's plays five games in
the series, they probably win. If he doesn't, they lose.
He's gonna miss game one.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
From woes within the last hour is that the Bucks
are prepared to be without Giannis for the.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Start of the series.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So that's that's two games.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Sounds like it.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
If they just gonna miss game one, they say he'll
be's out game one, but the start of the series
I think is two games with the hope that he
returns later from this calf injury. Now, let's be real.
If you're Yannis, are you pushing it the calf? Well,
killing do not want to risk it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Calves tend to be injury that you think you've recovered from,
so you push it and re injure it. That's just
like the history of the calf. Kevin Durant, I've then,
I've injured my calf twice. Both times I came back
to early. Both times. I didn't feel it. Both times.
I'm like, yeah, tweaks a little, it's fine. So you
know Jannis is itching to get back. So listen again.
If I get Yannis the last four games of the series,
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I like my chances. If not, I'll take Indiana.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I think Pacers plus money is a smart There's gonna
be several upsets in the first round East and West, well,
several seven games. You and I both have Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, that's kind of an upset. I mean, K D.
Booker and Beale doesn't feel like a one to eight
hockey upset. I mean, I'm sorry, Grayson Allen's playing great.
I mean, they got four guys that can hit three years.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Well upset from a home court perspective, MAVs are the five.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, the MAVs are first of all, the KOHI may
not play, so if the Clippers lose, that's not a
big upset.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
You said the Sixers over the Necks. I disagree, but.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
They like the Knicks over the Sixers.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Who's the second and Jalen runs and eye trust my friend.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You know, these end of the year winning streaks are
always vocal. Yeah, they're fools gold in the NBA because
half the teams you play are literally tanking, and then
the star teams are generally resting guys. They lower minutes
for their stars. So you can go in to nine
game winning streak when ten of eleven in the NBA
at the end of the season, you're like, two legitimate
close wins is about all I can like with Philadelphia
(29:25):
eight game winning streak. Jmack with the News, Well that's
the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd line
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Speaker 5 (30:31):
Here begins to the reigning national champion Michigan Wolverines with
their annual Mazing Boo Game as new head coach Sharon
Moore looks to see who will rise.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Up to lead this year's team.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
The Michigan Spring game is Saturday, at noon Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Ohio State wins the Natti. Michigan pulls way way back
eight wins. I'd have to see the schedule closer to seven.
They're gonna pull way back. Can't lose eighteen players. Harball
your star corp, orderback your offensive line. Conference gets much better.
Schedule's much tougher. For years and years. Let's be honest
(31:07):
about the Big Ten. The only team Michigan and Ohio
State ever played that had the same level of talent
was each other, Ohio State and Michigan Michigan Ohio State.
Now you throw a Washington and Oregon and USC schedule
is gonna be much much tougher. We're gonna be talking
Caitlin Clark a lot more than Iowahawkeye football from this
point forward. It's just Iowa was always kind of a
(31:29):
second tier Big Ten team. What happened to the Michigan State's, Iowa's,
Minnesota's that were sort of a notch below the big dogs?
Do they go a notch below the teams that are
notch below Michigan Ohio State. That's my guess. By the way,
the betting markets, we've always said the truth serum is
people who bet sports because they care about one thing
(31:52):
getting it right. As we told you a week ago,
Jaden Daniels would be the number two pick in the
draft after Kayleb Williams. I have been told from a
source ide trust that Washington prefers Jaden Daniels. Well, what
do you know? The betting markets now have Jade and
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Daniels pulling away from Drake May as the number two pick.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
So why?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
First of all, Jaden Daniels is much better at throwing
the ball forty touchdown passes, four picks this year and
a seventy two percent completion percentage. He's a better thrower
than Drake May. He also is a better runner than
Drake May eleven hundred rushing yards and ten tds. He
also played in a much better conference than Drake May.
(32:44):
Acc was mostly terrible this year, the SEC was, as
usual good. Of the six potential first round quarterbacks, there
are only two that are crazy athletic, really consistent, accurate,
and highly productive Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams. Drake May
is inconsistent, JJ McCarthy wasn't wildly productive. Bo Nicks isn't
(33:08):
crazy athletic, and Michael Pennix, as much as I like him,
is sort of a pocket guy. So with Jayden Daniels
you get six three and a half athletic, consistent, accurate, productive.
If you look at Cliff Kingsbury's career, he has had
success with accurate quarterbacks who are athletic. That is exactly
(33:30):
what Jaden Daniels is. So in the SEC he averaged
four hundred yards a game throwing. I mean JJ McCarthy
had won three hundred yard game and his biggest games
were against the worst teams overwhelmingly. So we told you
that's what was coming down the pike. Jaden Daniels is
going to be the number two pick now. Can things change? Absolutely?
(33:52):
That's Cliff Kingsbury's got some saying this and his take
is Jaden Daniels is the guy now. Drake May did
not have a great Pro day Jade and Daniels just
kind of threw it to very good players. He moved
a little bit, but in terms of Pro Day, Jade
and Daniels was considered having the better Pro day as well.
So there you go. The two most athletic, consistent, productive
(34:16):
quarterbacks will go one and two us c's and then
LSU's that's what i'm That's what I'm told the draft
will work out, and for the record, I think it works.
I was initially much higher on Drake May, but the
more I listen to people, the more inconsistencies they were
concerned about. So there you go. So tonight it's very
(34:38):
possible we could go a little over a week, aldgo
J McK and I went to the Warriors Lakers and
one of the reasons I went he talked me into it.
Then I kind of disengaged and got better seats. But
basically what happened is I thought, so it's the last
time to see Steph clan Raymond together after this great
dynastic run. And so tonight they play Sacramento. I think
(34:58):
the Warriors win tonight close. It's a go either way game,
but I don't think they can beat the Pelicans or
the Lakers, and they have to win two games to
get out of the plan in and I just think
it's the end of the dynasty. Over the next couple
of days, and Nick right earlier on why tonight could
be the end of the Warriors run, I don't.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Think this has gotten enough attention.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
I think we are less than twelve hours away from
the final game. Steph, Clay and Draymond play together. I
think that Clay is not on the team next year.
When Clay said on Draymond's podcast that you know, of
course he wants to stay a Warrior, but he has
to prioritize things such as his mental health, that made
(35:40):
me feel like, oh, this has not been fun for him.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
He is not happy. When you see Steph.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Dealing with the drama he dealt with on the court
in the game Draymond got kicked out of, it just
feels like this is the last stand.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's interesting about dynasties for a variety of reasons. If
you if Denver wins this year, I tend to think
you got to get to three straight finals and win
a couple of them. That feels like a dynasty. You
don't have to win every super Bowl. New England didn't,
Kansas City got housed by Brady and the Bucks. But
you start looking at dynasties. So if Denver wins this year,
(36:17):
you're close to a current dynasty being in the West.
The previous dynasty the Warriors in the West, the one
before that the Spurs with as it was in the
West and the one before that was the Lakers. So
you know, you start looking at the all time great dynasties,
the length of them, It's like Celtics with Russell, MJ's
(36:41):
Bulls got six and then the Warriors. What do you
think Magic kareem in that. I mean, if all time,
I mean it's all time great dynasties Celtics and Russell.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Wait wait, why are we counting Celtics and Russell? There
was like twelve teams in the league.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Stop that.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It was like a.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Different time in a mirror in the world. No, Russell's
Celtics can be taking pre NBA.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
So where so if Michael's dynasty was arguably the greatest team,
that's the greatest team.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
I would say they were number two behind the KD.
Curry Clay Draymond Warriors. That twenty seventeen team.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
That well, that's just an individual team. I'm talking that,
you know, because the Warriors had multiple changes, the Bulls
had multiple Let's just count it as a one dynasty
because they won pre KD post KD. If you're talking
dynasties overall, I think in a modern era, Shaq and
Kobe and MJ's Bulls.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
I mean, I'm sorry, but Lebron made the finals by
himself four four times in a row with Miami, then
four times in a row with Cleveland by himself.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
So the Lebron they they are one shot from Ray
Allen away from going one for three. They were not
a dominant finals eight years in a row. Jordan's Bulls
made it three, then Michael had to quit and you know,
recharge the batteries, take a year and a half, and
then won three again after two more years.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
So like three two years off and then three more
like Lebron's is way more impressive. Eight straight years going
to the finals. Yeah, but it's unheard of. Six for
six is more impressive. I mean magic, Magic got to
nine five, but not in a row.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Lebron eight finals in a row.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
That's absurd.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
The East has always been Colin.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
It's an extra twenty playoff games every year for Lebron,
like the tread on those tires.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So if I said you take the Russell Celtics out
because that's the handdown winner of the greatest dynasty ever eleven,
I mean that Russell won eleven.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Yeah, when there was four teams in the league.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Chair Okay, rank the dynasties in fact, in fact, I'll
give you this defined dynasty.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
First, how many do you need?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I think you gotta win. You gotta win three, three
in a row or three total. You gotta win three total.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Okay, Steph Curry has a dynasty.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
He's number one, and then Jordan's second.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Jordan second, Magic third were shaking Kobe Shakan Kobe before.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Okay, well who are they?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Are they ahead of mess You don't have the Spurs
anywhere in there.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I would put.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Parker Duncan Popovich.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Yeah, that's that's a tough one. Do they go ahead
of Shaq and Kobe? Shagon Kobe were utterly dominant.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Okay, yeah, Duncan and Spurs.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
They were like grinders for I mean they were winning
finals games like eighty to seventy six.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
It is true. They were more.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
No, no, it's a chip is a chip, but no,
it's it's uh I if I said, you know, it's
so much of it's based on rules. I mean, like
the Baltimore Ravens Super Bowl with Dilferd. They couldn't compete
today because you could do things defensively and they were
built for that. They would just be a team today
they have a bunch of good days. They'd be a
they'd be like they it'd be like current Baltimore where
(39:51):
they'd have a lot of great players, but you'd be like,
what's the fire power? You gotta be able to score now,
nobody can stop anybody. The Jordan team could use the
hand check, highly physical, super long, but to be honest
with you, they didn't have a lot of three point shooters. Coho,
Coach and kerb were it. So the Warriors with Katie
Stephan Clay with these rules could run them off the
floor because.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
They just shoot them off the floor, annihilate them.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So I mean I always think like the Jordan Bulls
and the Warriors with Kad, those two teams just were
different in their era. Their respect like the pre the
post hand check and the hand check. If you have
a hand check era, the Jordan Bulls are the best ever,
but no hand check in a three ball era, they'd
(40:35):
run the Bulls off the floor. They have too many shooters.
I mean, who would you put Kad in the corner?
Stephan the wing catch and shoot Clay they just have
I mean they literally the Bulls will be running around
the court.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
So which leads to my point about twenty twenty four
dream Team Avengers, that's what they're calling them, versus.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Ninety two Dream Team. Nick made a good point earlier, Colin.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Guys on the ninety two Dream Team who had made
the NBA finals, there's only four of them. I went
through the rost, Michael, Pippin, Magic, Birden, that's it. Nobody
else to that point had made the finals. Here from
the twenty twenty fourteen these guys had made the NBA finals, Curry,
kd Lebron Booker, Holiday, Tatum, ad Bam.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
It's mostly because Bird, Magic and MJ were so great
they put a yield sign in front of the finals.
You couldn't get this.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
And those guys were all washed.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
McHale and Jabar was really washed.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
He was thirty five years old in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Still hit a jumper. Well, I mean, Michael was still
the best player in the world, and he had just
surpassed Magic, who was the best player in the world.
Like that was a baton past during the Olympics said
they were the two best players in the World's fair
fair three
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