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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
it's our two. Welcome in, It's the Herd. Wherever you
may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for
making us part of your day. By the way, Aj
Presenci's gonna come on a couple of minutes, one of
only eleven catchers we got into this discussion during the break.
With over two thousand hits. The idea of being a
catcher today is not as daunting as being a catcher
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in the seventies and the eighties with AstroTurf, although Aj
Persinsky played in some of those turf fields like the
Vent in Philadelphia, so Cal Rawley. It's just very few
catchers have been prodigious hitters. Johnny Bench was, Mike Piazza was,
Joe Mauer was, but he transitioned to first base eventually.
Pud Rodriguez, I think, was a big time hitter, but
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it's it is that is asking a lot. So I'm
gonna get aj Perzinski again. He could hit. I'm gonna
start with this though. So you know, camps are going
to open up this weekend, and we know certain teams
aren't going to be great. Like I think we all
kind of know, like New Orleans is gonna may go
big game hunting next year in the draft Cleveland. But
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there are a couple of teams I think, like Dallas
and Miami that people think are pretty good. I think
their potential infernos. I think the team that could fall
apart fast, like three weeks in, four weeks in is
the New York Giants. So Russell Wilson, talking with Sports Illustrated,
says Carmelo Anthony gave him advice on being a great
New York athlete.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's funny because me and Carmelo we're talking about this.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
He's like, man, this is the perfect place for you
to re establish who Russell Wilson really is. Right, not
just how you play on the field, but which you
do the community, different things you're able to impact the people.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
You know, it doesn't get any bigger than New York City.
So I think the Giants. I mean, you've got a
coach in the hot seat, You've got a rookie quarterback
who's probably not ready to play. But if you go
on a two game losing streak, the fans, the talk
radio and the papers in New York are going to
demand it. You have a general manager who I'm not
quite sure knows what he's doing. And the division with
Jaden Daniels now is serious. So and if you look
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at their schedule the first nine weeks, there's nothing in
the NFL close to it. It's got one in eight
written all over it. It is brutal. Jaden Daniels, Dak Mahomes, Justin,
Herbert Jalen Hurts, Bo Nicks, Jalen hurts again, Brock perty In,
the Niners, Ben Johnson, Caleb william Green Bay, Detroit. Her
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first nine weeks are brutal. And the Bears, I mean,
let's be honest, teams don't spontaneously combust. You can see
the train wrecks coming, you can see the you can
see the infernos coming. So I think my three teams
that people, I think the Giants, the Dolphins, and the
Dallas Cowboys could get ugly fast. And I can't explain
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Russell Wilson. I have never seen a quarterback almost bizarrely
go from highly elusive, very good to Wow, we've got
to get rid of this contract. I can't explain it.
Brady aged gracefully. Russell Wilson got old fast. And what's
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going to happen with this schedule? Even if he plays
pretty well? It's New York. It's got a very loud
and relentless media. They're starting one and four, they're starting
two and six. They're gonna want to see Jackson Dart,
which is why I would not have drafted Jackson Dart,
because they're gonna demand he plays, and then you're gonna
have to stay with him for a year and a
half and not draft a quarterback next year. In a
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very good quarterback draft. This year was week. Next year
is outstanding. Could be six first round quarterbacks. So I
think this thing has a potential mess written all over
at New York. And with that, the opposite of a
mess was that masterclass in TV production and a big
event feel last night. The All Star Game was absolutely riveting.
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Aj Perzinski, Fox Sports Baseball analyst, nineteen years all Star
World champ, joining us SO Okay, So part of being
a catcher is framing pitches. Okay, that's part of the
art of it. And some of you guys, especially you
veteran guys. I remember it for the first time with
Johnny Bench. I can remember as a kid watching the
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game and Joe Garagiola would talk about Johnny Bench and
framing pitches. Okay, Now you got the new system, the ABS,
and it kind of takes that away, does it not?
Are you a fan of it?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I love it?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
But did it really take anything away from the game
last night? Because they still had to decide do I
want to tap my hand or do I not? They
got one wrong right now. Cal Rawly, who we're going
to talk about, hopefully, because he is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
He's one of the best.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I think he was nine for nine in spring training
at doing this with this with his hand on his
end him and Schoobol stole a strikeout right there. But
it does take away the value of framing at all.
If they went to full time robo umps, it would
But this is cool, man. The fans loved it, the
players love it, the TV loves it. It's great on TV.
As you see you right here, look at Schoobl's reaction,
He's like, yep, I knew it. It was a strike.
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But I love it. I think it's great, and I
love the challenge system because of this strategy of who
gets the challenge and who does it is going to
be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So there was a lot of pushback. And I've said
this years ago. I thought baseball Bud Selig overreacted to
a tie in the All Star Game and made the
All Star Game decide home field advantage. And I'm like,
You've got to be kidding me. One hundred and sixty
two games and an All Star Game is going to
decide that was bad. They overreacted. Now it doesn't, And
so to me, I love you know, the commissioner's choice,
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the legend Kershaw. I love Miss. I wanted to watch Miss.
I want to see a kid that's sixty seven throw
one hundred miles an hour. Didn't bother you that somebody
with only five appearances became an All Star.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, it didn't. What bothered me was the way he
got there.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And this is nothing against Miss at all, but how
many guys had to say no? The Phillies were mad,
But you had Ranger Suarez couldn't pitch. You had Jonathan
Sanchez couldn't pitch. They all said no. So guess what.
You can't just keep going down Phillies until you run
out of people. So they went to something that somebody
wanted to see. Right, they looked at Miss miss is
exciting TV mis Versus Paul Schimes that Wednesday. I've said
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this Colin should have been a flex game like they
do in the NFL, and put it on Fox at
eight pm at night, so the whole country you can
see misvers schemes on national television, not at one o'clock
on a Wednesday on no against you know, the Brewers
Network and the Pirates Network. Let's make this possible because
pitching matchups drive baseball ratings and that is a big one.
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And I had the only problem I had was five appearances. Fine,
but if we're gonna make this an exhibition, let's make
it an exhibition. Let's get people there that the fans
want to see. And miss is definitely one of those people.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So years ago, people you know, listen baseball more than
any sport in America, the MLS, hockey. We don't talk
about the history of it. We talk a little bit
about Jordan NFL. We don't talk about history. We talk
about Sunday's game. But baseball, I mean, people still talk
about Mantle and a show. Hey Tony makes you think
about Ruth. That's okay, that's part of its charm. It's
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a lure, it's lore and its history. So when Rob
Manfred did the pitchclock, it sped the game up, and
there was a lot of pushback on it. And my
take was, listen, baseball needs to kind of recalibrate what
young people want to watch. They're on their phones. Speed
the game up, don't change it, just speed it up.
Are you surprised that there really hasn't been a problem
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with a pitch clock. The game's faster, attendance is up,
the ratings are up. Did you think there'd be more
pushback because there hasn't. Really, it's just worked.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
No. I mean I thought there would be, but there
hasn't been because the players love it, the fans love it.
The people that don't like it maybe are the beer
salesman in the stadiums, But as a broadcaster, I love it.
Are you kidding me? We used to do if we
made it under three hours? It was a mirror on
the Fox Saturday games. Now, if we go over two
and a half hours, we're like, what was wrong with
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our game?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
What took so long? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I two seventeen to twenty that's the average game time
when these are Fox, with longer commercials in between breaks.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So I love the pitch clock.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Now pitchers have complained, some of the older guys, but
the guys who came up with this in the minor leagues,
the pitchers, they have no problem with it. The hitters
love it, the pitchers love it, the fans love it,
and there's more action, which I'm all for.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So you were a catcher for a long time. Joe
Mauer was great, but he initially said, Okay, I'm gonna
go play first base to extend my career. And back
in the seventies and eighties, when you had astro turf
in Saint Louis, Cincinnati, Kansas City, it was brutal. Now
you did play in the vet, which is insane. Uh,
those round stadiums were ovens. But cal Rawley's fascinating because
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a catcher has to wear extra gear, it's heavier, you're
in a crouch. So I'm always kind of amazed when
a catcher, and I remember them talking about Johnny Bench
losing eleven pounds, eleven pounds in a Saturday day game
at Riverfront, like literally just that you could not keep
weight on him eight or eleven pounds. So are you surprised,
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I mean, take me through your experience of having to hit.
You're one of eleven guys that played catcher with two
thousand hits. Are you surprised that Cal Rawley, despite that
what you're wearing, the crouch, how it beats you up physically?
He's leading baseball and homers.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Am I surprised? Yes, because look at his numbers last year.
I think he had a career at thirty yes, thirty
eight homers. I know he went out this offseason and
changed some things with a swing. He's catching the ball
way more out in front. He looks like a different guy.
But here's the thing called you can catch on a
knee now, and the gear is so light that it
doesn't really weigh hard on the anything. I'll say this
he plays in Seattle. Other than the travel, the weather
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there for a catcher is about as good as it gets,
sixty five seventy degrees with the roof. If he gets
too sunny, they can close the roof and make it
shady for him. He's got a great chance to do
something we've never seen. He should break the all time
Catcher home run mark, which I Salvador Press said a
few years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Now the question is can he get to sixty sixty five, seventy.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I don't know, because Catcher's typically slow down in the
second half. But if anyone's going to do it, listen,
if your nickname is the Big Dumper, and he's one
of the great guys in baseball, but the Big Dumper,
if he can do it, I don't know who can possibly.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Do it, but he's one of the best.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
He's got platinum glove, he's got silver sluggers, he's got
all these things.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now can he get the home run mark?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
This guy is a great player, deserves a lot more
credit than what he's even getting.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I think you can put him in the MVP race
of Aaron Judge.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, so there's a lot of rumors. Jeeter and a
Rod were talking about the Yankees making moves at the
trade deadline, and in the NFL, free agency is fraught
with overpriced guys coming in not fitting the culture. You
have to be. Most of the good teams stay away
from free agency. You don't want to bring in somebody
I always worry about in baseball or the NBA, especially baseball.
(11:00):
You bring in a guy, and I mean, first of all,
like Devers and the trade Rofie Devers, there's so much
pressure on him. It's totally in his head. So you
have that. He's often seen in free agency or a
trade at the deadline is you got to save the team. Secondly,
he doesn't necessarily fit the team playing in the team
locker room. Some guys don't. So what is your Are
(11:20):
the Yankees good enough? I mean, because the Dodgers have
the most talent, that's not even arguable. If their pitching
is healthy, it could be over. Cubs are very good.
Do the Yankees in your opinion, have to make moves
of the deadline to win a series?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yes, I think they need to change up some things,
and they're starting pitching is actually pretty good. Now, losing
Schmid really hurts him. You have Schmidt down and you
have Garrett Cole down. But Rodan and Freed are good
at the top. They're back into their bullpen. As long
as Devin Williams is right is good to me.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I like to see him.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Add some speed right, add some difference in speed because
they're really a home run or nothing team. That's why
the record in extra innings hasn't been good. They rely
on home run and they hit a lot of home runs.
What we've seen in the postseason, the pitching gets better,
home runs go down.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's why the.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Dodgers are so dangerous. That's why a lot of the
National League teams are more dangerous to me. But in
the American League, and the Yankees win the league, absolutely,
But the Tigers are the.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Team to be right now. But the Yankees can do it.
But I still like the Tigers.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
By the way, the Dodgers have struggled. Give me the
best roster you ever played on. Maybe it's your White
Sox World Series team. Have you ever been on a
team that was really talented and kind of the wheels
come off because of expectations. Because right now the Dodger
fans are ap a planktick good, tell me the most
talented team you ever played for that had a bad month.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Well, first of all, Dodger fans, calm down. I think
the Dodgers get bored sometimes and they're just like, eh,
we can lose seven in a row, we'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Next week.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
All Star break, well, you know, all our all Stars
go there, and yeah, we'll be fine after the break
and they'll be fine. Listen, they're the Dodgers. They have
more depth. Everyone's coming back. So everyone in Dodger.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Land in calm down. You're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
You're gonna win the division, and you're gonna make a
deep run in the postseason more likely. Best team I
was ever on was not our two thousand and five
team that won. We weren't the most talented. Our next
year's team was way better. We traded for Jim Tomy
had like ten All Stars. You look go back and
look at that twenty six team.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You know what we did. We won ninety games and
we didn't even make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Didn't he make a wild card because our last month
we just all couldn't hit at the same time. I've
never seen a team Faulkonerko, Jermaine Died, Jim Tomy, all
these guys that were all All Stars, great players, just
not be able to hit at the same time. Myself
in there too. It was crazy. We just ran out
of steam, didn't make the postseason. So for me, it
was my two thousand and six White Sox team, and
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it was sad.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We were devastating.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
We're like, we won the World Series last year, We're
gonna do it again this year.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
We just collapsed.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, AJ Perzinski is always great scene and what a
night it was for baseball. Last night. It was just
all did you like that?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I want to know, did you like the home run
off at the end?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah? I do, because my take is it's an exhibition.
I don't want, guys, if if you have to travel
to Seattle from Atlanta, if you if you're a player
and have to travel across the country and play in Sacramento, Seattle, Sandia,
I don't want you getting in at five in the morning.
I get guys. I've always said this AJ about the
NFL overtime. I don't care if you take the opening
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kickoff ninety yards for a touchdown. What I don't want
is fifteen more minutes of NFL hits on my quarterback,
running back, and wide receiver and left tackle. Once you
go to extra innings in an exhibition or in a
football playoff game, get it done as fast as you
can so it doesn't punish everybody the next week. Did
you like it?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I did? And I love Shwarver hit three.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Of course he did because he had a big home
run in like every situation in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
How cool would it have been to see show Hey, Judge, Rawley,
whoever else you want to throw in there? The guys
who started the game right, take the top six home
run hitters in the league, and they're three in each league,
and do it that way. Nothing against Pete Alonzo and
Sharver and Jonathan or on to Brett Rooker did a
nice job in the home run derby, but.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It would have been really cool.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Oh hey, we have show Hey versus Judge first round,
Rallie vers Alonzo's second round, and whoever you want to
come up with the third round.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That would have been pretty awesome for the fans.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Would have made the fans stay, you know, it had
everyone tuned in, especially in a close game.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, the two thousand and eight All Star Game was
four hours, fifteen minutes. It was fifteen innings. And that
is what you can't that is what you absolutely can't. Can't.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Hey, I was there for the tie game. I was
there for the tie game. I have the ball from
the last now. So I was the catcher in the
last TI game and that didn't end very well either.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So anyway to at least get a winner.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I'm all for great seeing you again, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Thanks all.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, that was That was almost like when they overreacted
on the All Star Game. It's like when they overreacted
on the Saints pass interference colonies. NFL said, okay, we're
going to review pass interference. That was a disaster. It's
like it was an All Star game. I remember going
on the air and saying, it's an All Star game.
Is tied? Who cares? Getting major pushback, you you've got
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to have a decisive winner. Really in an exhibition, you
go and it's like it's almost like the substitute teacher
in class that they doesn't count. She never gives you
a test, like substitute teacher dance like it doesn't matter.
Blow bubbles in the back, you know, play that, play
that game you used to play, you know, flick footballs
in for you know, you know, payper football. I just
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to me, exhibitions, just get them over with, don't get
anybody hurt. I've always felt that in overtimes in football's
And the reason I use this analogy because the one
time I really got hurt skiing was on the last run,
and they always and I and so every time I'm
going to have a last run skiing, it's in my head.
Slow down because you're fatigued. Your muscles are fatigued. So
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if you go to overtime in football, college or pro,
you want it. You want it to end as fast
as you can. You want them in and out, one
series gone. I don't care about fairness. If you're a
home team and had fourteen possessions and could not win
in regulation, I don't care if you lose on the
opening kickoff of overtime. I don't care. You're at home,
you didn't have to travel, you had fourteen possessions, you
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had the crowd in your favor, you could hear you
couldn't win in regulation. I don't care what overtime looks like.
End it as soon as possible.
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Speaker 1 (17:55):
Had the All Star Game last night, Caitlin Clark has
heard again there's massive Lebron James trading rumors which I
don't buy. But the people are foisting up a potential
Dallas Maverick Steel. The market is changing Jmax all over that.
Miami Heat also get mentioned. I don't know what. I
(18:16):
don't know what Miami has to give them. I do
think Dallas very uniquely has gafferd and PJ. Washington and
Lively and A D. They have the best big rotation
in the league, I think by far, so they can
they can give away a couple of them. Uh, they
do not want to give up ad or Lively. They
may have to part ways with Lively. But if I
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wouldn't make the move if I'm the Lakers. But when
you get new ownership, and the Lakers have new owners
and they're very smart and they know the Lakers and
the LA market. They they're gonna they're gonna surprise some people.
So I'm I'm at least invested in the story. I
think it's interesting. Here's Jmack with the news.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
This is the head news, right, Colin.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
All Star game last night had a lot of ABS fun.
I know you're all over this. We saw it early
last night. So there was a challenge call in the
first inning. Take a listen to three player, two players
in an announcer talking about the ABS system.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Oh no, challenge, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I don't know if it can come from the It
can't come from the dugout, but it can come from
the booth.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I think it's gonna work.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
I think, al, how'd you do?
Speaker 9 (19:29):
How'd you do?
Speaker 7 (19:30):
I get the shy.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
That's messed up, that's messed up?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Hey, hey, you take them anyway you can get them
on there we go, There you go, cow one for one.
I had confidence in you, so Colin.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Four for five last night. Let me look at it
from two standpoints. Number one, this is awesome. It feels interactive, right.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Like when you go to a museum and you're able
to do stuff. Okay, but if you're an umpire, you
gotta hate this, right, you cannot like this.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
I mean, you look like a moron missing this. And
there was one at the very last bitch of the game.
I believe that forced the home run derby. I just
wonder how long umpires are going to be around after
this is I call this a success last time.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, we may have robots behind the plate soon enough. Anyway,
I'm impressed by how it look at the player's reaction
to it, Like it's a little bit like unveiling. You know,
there used to be that game show behind door number
three and all weight it for it. Let's make a deal,
and it's got a little bit of a let's make
a call to it, like you kind of sit there
and everybody's kind of waiting. I'm impressed by how fast
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they can activate it. It's over in thirty seconds. My
first take was, I mean, I watched college football games.
The replay literally stops momentum of a great play, like
it stops the game, and so like, I'm impressed by
how quickly, how actionable that you get an answer.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
It's kind of blows NFL and NBA replay can take
like literally ninety seconds, two minutes, three minutes, and they're
looking at it from fifty.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Angles and it's very clear this was done in a heartbeat.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
I mean, the baseball has really they're gonna have to
make football and basketball level up pretty quickly on this stuff, right,
I agree?
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Yeah, all right. Let's go to the next story.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
And we teased it earlier in the show, but there's
now a list of the top ten wide receivers in
the NFL. This is according to executives, coaches, and scouts.
Jamar Chase was number one. I don't think there could
be major equival with that. Justin Jefferson checked.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
In at two.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Again, I don't think anybody could argue. What's interesting is
rounding out the top five, they had Tyreek Hill number three,
CD Lamb for a j Brown five, your guy aman
Ro Saint Brown at six. No Puka Nakua in the
top ten. I'm sure you have issue with that. Jarro Wilson,
my guy of the Jets checking in at ten. I
(21:56):
thought Malik Dabers was a little high. You can clearly
see that he.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Has a on a talent. If you ever Ha's a
quarterback lookout. But your take on.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
The the list, Yeah, I have Puka Nakou in there somewhere.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
You gotta boot somebody. We're not doing this internet thing.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh you go to having me?
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Who are you taking out of the top ten?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
A little harder than right, Probably Garrett Wilson. Sorry, I
think Aj Brown. I take Aj Brown over Tyreek Kills.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
So a lot of people say he doesn't have the
statistical profile to be anywhere near the top five because
he doesn't have the target share.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, yeah, AJ Brown played for Tennessee with Derrick Henry
run first team, and then he goes to Philadelphia Sakuon
Barkley last year run first team. They only threw the
ball twenty four times a game. And so I mean,
I look at AJ Brown as he just hasn't had
the environment. I mean, go look at Randy Moss's career.
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He was always talented. He plays with Tom Brady, He's
in fifty point games. Like AJ Brown played for one
centric Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry and and
it was kind of a physical Mike Frable team run
first and then he goes to a Philadelphia team which
Jalen hurts. They literally have for the five week. Fifth
week by said we're gonna throw the ball less. So
(23:15):
in AJ Brown's always been like a little he can
tell with the book on the sideline. He's a little
myth by the fact they don't use him enough. But
I would put AJ Brown third if I had to
make a h third.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Wow, Okay, interesting A lot of people were saying he
should be lower. I will say when he was in Tennessee,
there was a number one seed in the AFC and
he was a beast. Then he goes to the Eagles
and they're in two Super Bowls. Obviously there's a lot
of players that that factor in. I think AJ Grodd
is elite.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
I have no issue with that.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
My thing is Tyree killcomor like if you're picking guys,
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
That he's top five for me.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Yes, the skill is there in the speed, but there's
so much other nonsense that goes with this guy that
doesn't that have to factor in.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, I mean, by the way, Puka Nakua no nonsense.
PFF had Pookin Nakua as their number one receiver last year.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
He hasn't even had the top ten Accoyd to executives.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Garrett Wilson or Poka Nakua. No gms take it, Garrett.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Not time out.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
I'm not gonna let just slander my guy. But Garrett
Wilson has had you know, half a leg Aaron Rodgers,
Zach Wilson, isn't it anybody you give him?
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Matt Stafford and Garrett Wilson might be top six on
this list.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, sure you've had all right.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Final story. Kirby's smart colin. He was at SEC media
Days yesterday and uh, you know, I talked about the
new influx of nil money and how it's really changed
some players, making it harder to recruit.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Guys and achieved team goals. He's got some points here.
Speaker 10 (24:45):
There's people more in college football today, especially in the SEC,
that are comfortable with where they are. This is a
pretty good life. I'm earning two hundred K a year.
I'm very comfortable. Hey, you don't reach your goals being comfortable.
What you see now is like, where's the drive and
energy and enthusiasm. Well, we want people that have it.
(25:07):
We're gonna seek it. We're gonna try to go find it.
And if we can just do that one percent better
than everybody else, gives us an opportunity to be ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well, I think that's every industry in America. A lot
of people are I don't think that's a fair criticism
of players. I think that's everybody in America. Not everybody
is aspirational, not everybody. My daughter is a really smart kid,
but she's like a dad. I don't want to own
a business. I don't want the stress of owning a business.
She's just not interested in. My son's the opposite. So
the idea, the truth is for some of these players,
(25:36):
let's be honest. Players know. I mean, you go to
Georgia and you're a wide receiver and your faith and
NFL guys in the secondary and at safety and you're
not getting open. You can figure out pretty quickly. I
can't beat my guys at Georgia and coverage. I'm probably
not an NFL guy, but I can make one hundred
and seventy five thousand dollars playing at Georgia. This is
(25:57):
top of the foot chain. You're probably comfortable, I think so.
I don't know if Kirby was criticizing him, but what
he's basically saying that every industry in America is like that.
Not everybody wants to put in seventy hours a week
and a lot of people get comfortable.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
This is a tough one because let's be real, like,
do you want a ten year future in the NFL
or short shelf life injuries blah blah blah, or do
you want to say, I'm going to use football as
a tool to get me a degree, and oh, by
the way, I'm making two hundred thousand dollars a year
on the football team.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Like, I think that's probably the smart move, Colin. Let's
be real. You know, NFL shelf life, it's NFL.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Not for long.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
You know some of these guys, I know Kirby's kind
of dinging them here, but I think it's smart business.
Can you imagine if you got out of college having
made two hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
That's a nest egg to start a business.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
If you want me to move wherever you want to
work remotely travel, Like, I think it's really smart of
these guys to get comfortable making that money.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Maybe they don't all want the NFL.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well, it's also a responsibility of the university to be prepared,
and so I am four players getting paid. I am
for the transfer portal, but I am a believer that
LSU and USC and Colorado jumped into that swimming pool
head first, and they've all underachieved. I mean, Colorado got better,
(27:20):
but a lot of that's been a little bit of hype.
Is I would use great descriptions. I mean, Georgia, the
state of Georgia. You could just recruit the state of
Georgia and Florida and that's it, and you could have
a team. So I contend you should still seventy five
to eighty percent of your players should be high school players. Really, yeah,
(27:41):
And that's what Notre Dame's doing, and Notre Dame hasn't
been this good in ten years a minute.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
But then we saw what TCU a couple of years ago,
where they had, like PLF the starting lineup was transfer
portal guys and they make.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
A run of the playoff. And then I think we
saw that lot Indiana.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You know, but Indiana was a fraud. It's not sustainable.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
They made a playoff.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
If you're a coach, at off them and then we're humiliated.
I mean, great, but there's a there's a ceiling and
a lack of sustainability. On bringing in seventeen to twenty
four players a year from the from the portal.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
I'm telling you right now, this will happen this year.
Texas Tech will be a juggernaut. They will be awesome
in the Big twelve. They will put up great numbers
in a record and they'll probably make the playoff. And
other coaches are gonna miss the playoff okay, and their
boosters are gonna say, hey, how the hell is Texas
Tech and.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Where are you? Why aren't you there?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And you're if you put if you put Texas Tech
in the SEC and you put Texas Tech into Big ten,
they wouldn't because after a one game losing streak, all
the I gotta get mine portal guys would the chemistry,
because Texas Tech has talent. You cannot bring in thirty
five new guys, pay them all. Half the roster makes nothing.
(28:49):
Half the roster is rich, and think we gotta have
great chemistry. If you're winning in the crappy Big twelve,
then it's great. The minute you go to You're not
gonna lose any games in the Big twelve. You put
them in the SEC or Big ten and they go
to George and get rolled and everybody's finger pointing on
the flight back, and then you play the next week,
go to LSU and get rolled again and the whole
locker room inmploy.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
That's too many ifs, Colin again, look at the boosters.
They are going to look at some of these programs
coming out of nowhere with twenty transfer portal guys and
say why aren't we there? And they're gonna want to
go to their coach and the coach is gonna get
on the hot seat for not getting there.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
I'm just telling you it's a weird time. I love
it personally.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
And what's the same if you don't have a plan,
plan to fail. And we've seen that at Clemson with
your guy Dabo. He said, we don't need this portal.
And guess what, they're not reaching the highs they should.
Everyone else around them is leveling up.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Correct Well, they'll be in the national championship discussion. This
is They've got a they have maybe the I think
they have the second or third best quarterback. They have
sixteen returning starters. Clemson's got a week schedule out, They've
got a game against I think LSU early. They have
to go face Belichick in Carolina. But Clemson is gonna
win ten plus games. They're going to be in the playoff.
(30:02):
I guarantee you you guarantees and oh absolutely, they're making
the play.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
The social media team get that Clemson guaranteed in the play. Yeah,
that's bold in the acc.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Jmckle the news, Well, that's the news, and thanks for
stopping by the herd Line News. By the way, Bradley Beal,
who was it just didn't work in Phoenix, has agreed
to a contract buy out. The Sun's bought him out.
He's gonna go play for the Clippers. So uh, James
harden Kawhi, Leonard Bradley Beal, I don't.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Know, Wait a minute, he's going to the Clippers for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, that's what it says here for Oh no, that's.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
A huge loss for the Clip. Clippers are betting the
Lakers right now.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You think Bradley Beal makes that big of a difference.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Bradley Beal, James harden Kawhi, Leonard Zubac, they got a
good bench.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, that just screams great in May and June, well
to be great Bradley Beal and Phoenix. It was a disaster.
He couldn't stay healthy.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
It was a disaster that they were garbage. They recycled
their coaches.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I don't I don't have to read in. It would
have slapped me in the face for two years. It
was a disaster.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I can't believe He's definitely.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Nothing subtle or nuanced about Bradley Beal's Phoenix stay.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
It was awful.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
But reminder, Bradley Beal at fifty million a year with
the Suns ain't great. Bradley Beal at five million dollars
a year for the Clippers might be one of the
best deals in the league.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Colin, how did it?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
N Just ask yourself, does this sound like a championship team,
James Harden? Because in championship team you have to be
available and good in May in June Kawhi Leonard, James Harden,
Bradley Beal. I really if I had told you a year.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Ago, Colin, does this sound like an NBA Finals team?
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Tyrese Haliburton, Pascal Siakam and Andrew Nemhard they.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Went to Game seven of the final?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You know what I would have said, Yeah, they do, actually,
because they made the Eastern Conference Finals last two years ago.
So I would have said in the awful East. Yeah,
I would have said they're a viable finals but by
the way, you picked them to beat Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (32:15):
I d I liked them, but again I said a
year ago, like now this time you're saying, I'm just
telling you the Clippers are probably the second or third.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Best team in the West with this deal. Addition, no,
you're not. Vie Beal.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Oh my gosh, okay, all right, five million dollars a
year for a starting shooting guard.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
He has not played over sixty games in six years.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Yeah, that's an issue health and availabilities and an issue.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
But it's like Denver Houston paper clips. And then okay,
see damn the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Are so you got Kawhi, Leonard, Bradley Beal coin flip
if they're available on any given night. And James Harden,
who's going to make the Hall of Fame, But have
you ever trusted him in May?
Speaker 8 (32:57):
What about your guy Tyron lu two coaches on that staff,
they are probably doing cartwheels right now that they stole
Bradley Beal.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
How did Lebron and Luca not be like bro come
to the Lakers? What a disaster? Oh my gosh. Rob
Palika put him on the hot seat.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
The hell I can't believe. Did your TV go out?
Did you not get Suns games? Did your NBA pass
not shot like blackout? Shoot some Bradley bil had a
good Ye, he's got the reason the Suns were a
dumpster fire. Listen, just because you get a deal on
a used car doesn't make it a new car. It's
(33:34):
still a used car I bought. I bought a nineteen
seventy eight Fiat for one hundred and eighty bucks. It's
a nineteen seventy eight Fiat. It's not getting younger.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
You sound like a guy tolation drives new cars. Give
me a good used car the millionaire next door.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Baby.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Geez, what a steal that is for the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
The Clippers. Let me check this out. Yeah, they were
the oldest team in the league last season. Okay, Bradley
Beal's done something, taking the Golden Girls and saying, let's
add Charleston Heston or something like, get a little younger.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
The league's getting younger. They just got older girls. That's
classic you seventies baseball. Charlton Heston, Golden Girls.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Time out. They they didn't they just move Norman Powell.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
Yeah, they lost Norman Powell got off his contract, so.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I don't have Norman Powell, but I've got Bradley Beal.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Was that a downgrade?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Norman pal is pretty good good. He's a good player,
and he by the way he's he plays, by the way.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
The Clippers didn't they push Denver to seven games in
the opening round.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
I'm pretty sure they did.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
Your boy Jokic could barely get by these beat up Clippers.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I think you you kind of glazed over the in
the first round. This is a big one series in
the first round.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
You wait a minute.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
Two years, eleven million dollars for Bradley Beal, a three
time All Star who's probably gonna shoot forty percent from
time out.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Norman Powell shot forty two percent from threes last year. Contract,
Younger and healthier, better defender, more available. He was good.
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Speaker 1 (35:44):
So it's been SCC media days. We've been talking about
the nil as. I can like something, but be care
you know, I like ice cream, you know I don't
want it for breakfast. I like the NIL. I'd be
very careful about just adding a bunch of transfer portal players.
Steve sarkohesion at Texas. Texas is the most well funded
program right now in the country. They got more money
(36:05):
than anybody. I remember before when Texas was approved to
go to the SEC. I remember saying on the air
I was at Fox. I said, they are going to
change that conference. And Nick Saban, Remember Nick Saban started
complaining about He was very vague, but he started complaining
about NIL. He saw it coming. Is it Alabama money?
(36:25):
Alabama's economy is not Texas's economy. Go look up their
GDPs Gross domestic product. There's a lot more money in
Texas than Bama. And Nick Saban saw it and got out.
Remember when Urban Meyer left Florida and all the Bama
fans were like, oh, he's afraid. He's afraid of Nick Saban.
Nick Saban was afraid of what he saw at Texas.
I remember one of Saban's last years when Bama faced
(36:48):
Texas and I remember watching the game and thinking, oh,
Texas has much bigger, stronger, faster players. Well, Nick Saban
saw that and he got into broadcasting. He saw it coming.
So here's Sark on Nia.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
Well, one of the first things we do we don't
talk about NIL. We don't talk about NIL or revenue
sharing or publicity rights until the very end. And that
may hurt us on some kids. But if a kid
is coming to Texas for that reason, we don't want
them anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So I think you got about five or six teams.
Here's my national championship bubble. I think Obama, Clemson, and
Notre Dame are really close. I like Clemson's coach and quarterback. Listen,
Penn State. Let let's let's talk Penn State. I think
Penn State and Texas are going to play for the
national championship. I think Penn State. First of all, they
(37:39):
went and post Ohio State's defensive coordinator, so Jim Knowles
from Ohio State. So they're going to their coaching staff.
Their coordinator staff is world class. I think Drew Aller
is going to be the second best quarterback in the
country to Arch Manning. Singleton the running back. Their running
backs are both pros, so I think State's offense is
(38:01):
going to be a machine. So I think they play
for the national championship. Drew Aller is the guy that
he improved his accuracy. I didn't like him two years ago.
I watched him last year and I was like, oh, yeah,
that's a top that's a top ten pick in the draft.
I think Texas has improved every year under Steve Sarkeshan
arch Manning takes over at quarterback. They listen, They've got
(38:25):
five star recruits. Does Texas at eight different positions. It's
a star studded roster. I think arch Manning is really good,
so I think he's the one quarterback that will absolutely
go ahead of Drew Aller. So I have Texas and
Penn State. I also I'll put Ohio State in there.
They have Julian Sayan as a quarterback, California kid, five
(38:47):
star recruit. I haven't seen him play, but they have
the best offensive player in the country. The Buckeyes do
in Jeremiah Smith, and I think they have the best
defensive player in the country, Caleb Downs. I think Caleb
Downs would have gone number one or two last year
as a sophomore. I think he's just unbelievable, and they
just they recruit I mean Ryan Day, the critics the
Wolves are off him now because of the Natty win.
(39:10):
I also think Georgia can win the championship. I don't
know a ton about Gunner Stockton, the quarterback, but it's
a factory. Kirby Smart's a great coach. They've played. I mean,
they blew out Texas twice last year, so I just
have so much respect for the quality of athletes the
state of Georgia High School and Florida produce. I would
put Georgia in the national championship contention. I mean, they
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kind of humiliated Texas twice, and I think Oregon is
in it. Dante Moore was a quarterback at UCLA. He transferred.
He it was a Michigan high school phenom. I think
he's really good. I think Dan Lanning's but an absolute
home run. As a coach. Lanning is better than I thought.
I mean, he came from Georgia. He was a defensive guy.
I'm like, really, I mean he was on Kirby smart staff.
(39:54):
How much coaching did he do? It was Kirby Smart's
defense he has been an absolute home run. They've got
a great linebacking corps, probably the best linebacking corps arguably
in college football. A couple All American candidates, great back
in in the secondary, so he's got they've got a
great back seven. And then I would put just outside Bama. Again,
(40:16):
Bama's really good. They got a receiver Ryan Williams that's insane,
and Kaylin de Bor is a great coach. I don't
know much about Tysimpson the quarterback. He's been sitting on
a bench for three years. I just don't know what
they are at quarterback. Kaitlin de Bor is a really
good quarterback coach, so I'm kind of guessing there Notre
Dame has a quarterback battle. I love their roster and
coaching staff, but again, I don't know what they are
at quarterback. Clemson, I know the quarterback sixteen starters, but
(40:40):
they haven't played in the portal at all, and I
just wonder if you put them up against Penn State,
Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, does Clemson have the athletes to
win a national compete against those guys. Acc is so
bad it's hard to tell, but I think there are
five teams that I just have more answers than questions.
Speaker 8 (40:59):
I like No.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Dame and Bama a lot, but I just I got
to see their quarterback play because you know, Riley Leonard
look a lot like Josh Allen to me, so a
little bit of a drop off in quarterback play for
the fighting Irish Albert Bruers around the corner. Bradley Beal.
(41:21):
Bradley Beal was quarterback in Notre Dame Food. I was
seventeen and Oho
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Presenci's gonna come on a couple of minutes, one of
only eleven catchers we got into this discussion during the break.
With over two thousand hits. The idea of being a
catcher today is not as daunting as being a catcher
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in the seventies and the eighties with AstroTurf, although Aj
Persinsky played in some of those turf fields like the
Vent in Philadelphia, so Cal Rawley. It's just very few
catchers have been prodigious hitters. Johnny Bench was, Mike Piazza was,
Joe Mauer was, but he transitioned to first base eventually.
Pud Rodriguez, I think, was a big time hitter, but
(01:02):
it's it is that is asking a lot. So I'm
gonna get aj Perzinski again. He could hit. I'm gonna
start with this though. So you know, camps are going
to open up this weekend, and we know certain teams
aren't going to be great. Like I think we all
kind of know, like New Orleans is gonna may go
big game hunting next year in the draft Cleveland. But
(01:23):
there are a couple of teams I think, like Dallas
and Miami that people think are pretty good. I think
their potential infernos. I think the team that could fall
apart fast, like three weeks in, four weeks in is
the New York Giants. So Russell Wilson, talking with Sports Illustrated,
says Carmelo Anthony gave him advice on being a great
New York athlete.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's funny because me and Carmelo we're talking about this.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
He's like, man, this is the perfect place for you
to re establish who Russell Wilson really is. Right, not
just how you play on the field, but which you
do the community, different things you're able to impact the people.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
You know, it doesn't get any bigger than New York City.
So I think the Giants. I mean, you've got a
coach in the hot seat, You've got a rookie quarterback
who's probably not ready to play. But if you go
on a two game losing streak, the fans, the talk
radio and the papers in New York are going to
demand it. You have a general manager who I'm not
quite sure knows what he's doing. And the division with
Jaden Daniels now is serious. So and if you look
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at their schedule the first nine weeks, there's nothing in
the NFL close to it. It's got one in eight
written all over it. It is brutal. Jaden Daniels, Dak Mahomes, Justin,
Herbert Jalen Hurts, Bo Nicks, Jalen hurts again, Brock perty In,
the Niners, Ben Johnson, Caleb william Green Bay, Detroit. Her
(02:42):
first nine weeks are brutal. And the Bears, I mean,
let's be honest, teams don't spontaneously combust. You can see
the train wrecks coming, you can see the you can
see the infernos coming. So I think my three teams
that people, I think the Giants, the Dolphins, and the
Dallas Cowboys could get ugly fast. And I can't explain
(03:04):
Russell Wilson. I have never seen a quarterback almost bizarrely
go from highly elusive, very good to Wow, we've got
to get rid of this contract. I can't explain it.
Brady aged gracefully. Russell Wilson got old fast. And what's
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going to happen with this schedule? Even if he plays
pretty well? It's New York. It's got a very loud
and relentless media. They're starting one and four, they're starting
two and six. They're gonna want to see Jackson Dart,
which is why I would not have drafted Jackson Dart,
because they're gonna demand he plays, and then you're gonna
have to stay with him for a year and a
half and not draft a quarterback next year. In a
(03:47):
very good quarterback draft. This year was week. Next year
is outstanding. Could be six first round quarterbacks. So I
think this thing has a potential mess written all over
at New York. And with that, the opposite of a
mess was that masterclass in TV production and a big
event feel last night. The All Star Game was absolutely riveting.
(04:07):
Aj Perzinski, Fox Sports Baseball analyst, nineteen years all Star
World champ, joining us SO Okay, So part of being
a catcher is framing pitches. Okay, that's part of the
art of it. And some of you guys, especially you
veteran guys. I remember it for the first time with
Johnny Bench. I can remember as a kid watching the
(04:28):
game and Joe Garagiola would talk about Johnny Bench and
framing pitches. Okay, Now you got the new system, the ABS,
and it kind of takes that away, does it not?
Are you a fan of it?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I love it?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
But did it really take anything away from the game
last night? Because they still had to decide do I
want to tap my hand or do I not? They
got one wrong right now. Cal Rawly, who we're going
to talk about, hopefully, because he is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
He's one of the best.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I think he was nine for nine in spring training
at doing this with this with his hand on his
end him and Schoobol stole a strikeout right there. But
it does take away the value of framing at all.
If they went to full time robo umps, it would
But this is cool, man. The fans loved it, the
players love it, the TV loves it. It's great on TV.
As you see you right here, look at Schoobl's reaction,
He's like, yep, I knew it. It was a strike.
(05:14):
But I love it. I think it's great, and I
love the challenge system because of this strategy of who
gets the challenge and who does it is going to
be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So there was a lot of pushback. And I've said
this years ago. I thought baseball Bud Selig overreacted to
a tie in the All Star Game and made the
All Star Game decide home field advantage. And I'm like,
You've got to be kidding me. One hundred and sixty
two games and an All Star Game is going to
decide that was bad. They overreacted. Now it doesn't, And
so to me, I love you know, the commissioner's choice,
(05:43):
the legend Kershaw. I love Miss. I wanted to watch Miss.
I want to see a kid that's sixty seven throw
one hundred miles an hour. Didn't bother you that somebody
with only five appearances became an All Star.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, it didn't. What bothered me was the way he
got there.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And this is nothing against Miss at all, but how
many guys had to say no? The Phillies were mad,
But you had Ranger Suarez couldn't pitch. You had Jonathan
Sanchez couldn't pitch. They all said no. So guess what.
You can't just keep going down Phillies until you run
out of people. So they went to something that somebody
wanted to see. Right, they looked at Miss miss is
exciting TV mis Versus Paul Schimes that Wednesday. I've said
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this Colin should have been a flex game like they
do in the NFL, and put it on Fox at
eight pm at night, so the whole country you can
see misvers schemes on national television, not at one o'clock
on a Wednesday on no against you know, the Brewers
Network and the Pirates Network. Let's make this possible because
pitching matchups drive baseball ratings and that is a big one.
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And I had the only problem I had was five appearances. Fine,
but if we're gonna make this an exhibition, let's make
it an exhibition. Let's get people there that the fans
want to see. And miss is definitely one of those people.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So years ago, people you know, listen baseball more than
any sport in America, the MLS, hockey. We don't talk
about the history of it. We talk a little bit
about Jordan NFL. We don't talk about history. We talk
about Sunday's game. But baseball, I mean, people still talk
about Mantle and a show. Hey Tony makes you think
about Ruth. That's okay, that's part of its charm. It's
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a lure, it's lore and its history. So when Rob
Manfred did the pitchclock, it sped the game up, and
there was a lot of pushback on it. And my
take was, listen, baseball needs to kind of recalibrate what
young people want to watch. They're on their phones. Speed
the game up, don't change it, just speed it up.
Are you surprised that there really hasn't been a problem
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with a pitch clock. The game's faster, attendance is up,
the ratings are up. Did you think there'd be more
pushback because there hasn't. Really, it's just worked.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
No. I mean I thought there would be, but there
hasn't been because the players love it, the fans love it.
The people that don't like it maybe are the beer
salesman in the stadiums, But as a broadcaster, I love it.
Are you kidding me? We used to do if we
made it under three hours? It was a mirror on
the Fox Saturday games. Now, if we go over two
and a half hours, we're like, what was wrong with
(08:05):
our game?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
What took so long? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I two seventeen to twenty that's the average game time
when these are Fox, with longer commercials in between breaks.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So I love the pitch clock.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Now pitchers have complained, some of the older guys, but
the guys who came up with this in the minor leagues,
the pitchers, they have no problem with it. The hitters
love it, the pitchers love it, the fans love it,
and there's more action, which I'm all for.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So you were a catcher for a long time. Joe
Mauer was great, but he initially said, Okay, I'm gonna
go play first base to extend my career. And back
in the seventies and eighties, when you had astro turf
in Saint Louis, Cincinnati, Kansas City, it was brutal. Now
you did play in the vet, which is insane. Uh,
those round stadiums were ovens. But cal Rawley's fascinating because
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a catcher has to wear extra gear, it's heavier, you're
in a crouch. So I'm always kind of amazed when
a catcher, and I remember them talking about Johnny Bench
losing eleven pounds, eleven pounds in a Saturday day game
at Riverfront, like literally just that you could not keep
weight on him eight or eleven pounds. So are you surprised,
(09:11):
I mean, take me through your experience of having to hit.
You're one of eleven guys that played catcher with two
thousand hits. Are you surprised that Cal Rawley, despite that
what you're wearing, the crouch, how it beats you up physically?
He's leading baseball and homers.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Am I surprised? Yes, because look at his numbers last year.
I think he had a career at thirty yes, thirty
eight homers. I know he went out this offseason and
changed some things with a swing. He's catching the ball
way more out in front. He looks like a different guy.
But here's the thing called you can catch on a
knee now, and the gear is so light that it
doesn't really weigh hard on the anything. I'll say this
he plays in Seattle. Other than the travel, the weather
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there for a catcher is about as good as it gets,
sixty five seventy degrees with the roof. If he gets
too sunny, they can close the roof and make it
shady for him. He's got a great chance to do
something we've never seen. He should break the all time
Catcher home run mark, which I Salvador Press said a
few years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Now the question is can he get to sixty sixty five, seventy.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I don't know, because Catcher's typically slow down in the
second half. But if anyone's going to do it, listen,
if your nickname is the Big Dumper, and he's one
of the great guys in baseball, but the Big Dumper,
if he can do it, I don't know who can possibly.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Do it, but he's one of the best.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
He's got platinum glove, he's got silver sluggers, he's got
all these things.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now can he get the home run mark?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
This guy is a great player, deserves a lot more
credit than what he's even getting.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I think you can put him in the MVP race
of Aaron Judge.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, so there's a lot of rumors. Jeeter and a
Rod were talking about the Yankees making moves at the
trade deadline, and in the NFL, free agency is fraught
with overpriced guys coming in not fitting the culture. You
have to be. Most of the good teams stay away
from free agency. You don't want to bring in somebody
I always worry about in baseball or the NBA, especially baseball.
(11:00):
You bring in a guy, and I mean, first of all,
like Devers and the trade Rofie Devers, there's so much
pressure on him. It's totally in his head. So you
have that. He's often seen in free agency or a
trade at the deadline is you got to save the team. Secondly,
he doesn't necessarily fit the team playing in the team
locker room. Some guys don't. So what is your Are
(11:20):
the Yankees good enough? I mean, because the Dodgers have
the most talent, that's not even arguable. If their pitching
is healthy, it could be over. Cubs are very good.
Do the Yankees in your opinion, have to make moves
of the deadline to win a series?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yes, I think they need to change up some things,
and they're starting pitching is actually pretty good. Now, losing
Schmid really hurts him. You have Schmidt down and you
have Garrett Cole down. But Rodan and Freed are good
at the top. They're back into their bullpen. As long
as Devin Williams is right is good to me.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I like to see him.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Add some speed right, add some difference in speed because
they're really a home run or nothing team. That's why
the record in extra innings hasn't been good. They rely
on home run and they hit a lot of home runs.
What we've seen in the postseason, the pitching gets better,
home runs go down.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's why the.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Dodgers are so dangerous. That's why a lot of the
National League teams are more dangerous to me. But in
the American League, and the Yankees win the league, absolutely,
But the Tigers are the.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Team to be right now. But the Yankees can do it.
But I still like the Tigers.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
By the way, the Dodgers have struggled. Give me the
best roster you ever played on. Maybe it's your White
Sox World Series team. Have you ever been on a
team that was really talented and kind of the wheels
come off because of expectations. Because right now the Dodger
fans are ap a planktick good, tell me the most
talented team you ever played for that had a bad month.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Well, first of all, Dodger fans, calm down. I think
the Dodgers get bored sometimes and they're just like, eh,
we can lose seven in a row, we'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Next week.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
All Star break, well, you know, all our all Stars
go there, and yeah, we'll be fine after the break
and they'll be fine. Listen, they're the Dodgers. They have
more depth. Everyone's coming back. So everyone in Dodger.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Land in calm down. You're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
You're gonna win the division, and you're gonna make a
deep run in the postseason more likely. Best team I
was ever on was not our two thousand and five
team that won. We weren't the most talented. Our next
year's team was way better. We traded for Jim Tomy
had like ten All Stars. You look go back and
look at that twenty six team.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You know what we did. We won ninety games and
we didn't even make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Didn't he make a wild card because our last month
we just all couldn't hit at the same time. I've
never seen a team Faulkonerko, Jermaine Died, Jim Tomy, all
these guys that were all All Stars, great players, just
not be able to hit at the same time. Myself
in there too. It was crazy. We just ran out
of steam, didn't make the postseason. So for me, it
was my two thousand and six White Sox team, and
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it was sad.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We were devastating.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
We're like, we won the World Series last year, We're
gonna do it again this year.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
We just collapsed.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, AJ Perzinski is always great scene and what a
night it was for baseball. Last night. It was just
all did you like that?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I want to know, did you like the home run
off at the end?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah? I do, because my take is it's an exhibition.
I don't want, guys, if if you have to travel
to Seattle from Atlanta, if you if you're a player
and have to travel across the country and play in Sacramento, Seattle, Sandia,
I don't want you getting in at five in the morning.
I get guys. I've always said this AJ about the
NFL overtime. I don't care if you take the opening
(14:18):
kickoff ninety yards for a touchdown. What I don't want
is fifteen more minutes of NFL hits on my quarterback,
running back, and wide receiver and left tackle. Once you
go to extra innings in an exhibition or in a
football playoff game, get it done as fast as you
can so it doesn't punish everybody the next week. Did
you like it?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I did? And I love Shwarver hit three.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Of course he did because he had a big home
run in like every situation in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
How cool would it have been to see show Hey, Judge, Rawley,
whoever else you want to throw in there? The guys
who started the game right, take the top six home
run hitters in the league, and they're three in each league,
and do it that way. Nothing against Pete Alonzo and
Sharver and Jonathan or on to Brett Rooker did a
nice job in the home run derby, but.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It would have been really cool.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Oh hey, we have show Hey versus Judge first round,
Rallie vers Alonzo's second round, and whoever you want to
come up with the third round.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That would have been pretty awesome for the fans.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Would have made the fans stay, you know, it had
everyone tuned in, especially in a close game.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, the two thousand and eight All Star Game was
four hours, fifteen minutes. It was fifteen innings. And that
is what you can't that is what you absolutely can't. Can't.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Hey, I was there for the tie game. I was
there for the tie game. I have the ball from
the last now. So I was the catcher in the
last TI game and that didn't end very well either.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So anyway to at least get a winner.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I'm all for great seeing you again, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Thanks all.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, that was That was almost like when they overreacted
on the All Star Game. It's like when they overreacted
on the Saints pass interference colonies. NFL said, okay, we're
going to review pass interference. That was a disaster. It's
like it was an All Star game. I remember going
on the air and saying, it's an All Star game.
Is tied? Who cares? Getting major pushback, you you've got
(16:03):
to have a decisive winner. Really in an exhibition, you
go and it's like it's almost like the substitute teacher
in class that they doesn't count. She never gives you
a test, like substitute teacher dance like it doesn't matter.
Blow bubbles in the back, you know, play that, play
that game you used to play, you know, flick footballs
in for you know, you know, payper football. I just
(16:26):
to me, exhibitions, just get them over with, don't get
anybody hurt. I've always felt that in overtimes in football's
And the reason I use this analogy because the one
time I really got hurt skiing was on the last run,
and they always and I and so every time I'm
going to have a last run skiing, it's in my head.
Slow down because you're fatigued. Your muscles are fatigued. So
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if you go to overtime in football, college or pro,
you want it. You want it to end as fast
as you can. You want them in and out, one
series gone. I don't care about fairness. If you're a
home team and had fourteen possessions and could not win
in regulation, I don't care if you lose on the
opening kickoff of overtime. I don't care. You're at home,
you didn't have to travel, you had fourteen possessions, you
(17:08):
had the crowd in your favor, you could hear you
couldn't win in regulation. I don't care what overtime looks like.
End it as soon as possible.
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Speaker 1 (17:55):
Had the All Star Game last night, Caitlin Clark has
heard again there's massive Lebron James trading rumors which I
don't buy. But the people are foisting up a potential
Dallas Maverick Steel. The market is changing Jmax all over that.
Miami Heat also get mentioned. I don't know what. I
(18:16):
don't know what Miami has to give them. I do
think Dallas very uniquely has gafferd and PJ. Washington and
Lively and A D. They have the best big rotation
in the league, I think by far, so they can
they can give away a couple of them. Uh, they
do not want to give up ad or Lively. They
may have to part ways with Lively. But if I
(18:36):
wouldn't make the move if I'm the Lakers. But when
you get new ownership, and the Lakers have new owners
and they're very smart and they know the Lakers and
the LA market. They they're gonna they're gonna surprise some people.
So I'm I'm at least invested in the story. I
think it's interesting. Here's Jmack with the news.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
This is the head news, right, Colin.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
All Star game last night had a lot of ABS fun.
I know you're all over this. We saw it early
last night. So there was a challenge call in the
first inning. Take a listen to three player, two players
in an announcer talking about the ABS system.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Oh no, challenge, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I don't know if it can come from the It
can't come from the dugout, but it can come from
the booth.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I think it's gonna work.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
I think, al, how'd you do?
Speaker 9 (19:29):
How'd you do?
Speaker 7 (19:30):
I get the shy.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
That's messed up, that's messed up?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Hey, hey, you take them anyway you can get them
on there we go, There you go, cow one for one.
I had confidence in you, so Colin.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Four for five last night. Let me look at it
from two standpoints. Number one, this is awesome. It feels interactive, right.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Like when you go to a museum and you're able
to do stuff. Okay, but if you're an umpire, you
gotta hate this, right, you cannot like this.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
I mean, you look like a moron missing this. And
there was one at the very last bitch of the game.
I believe that forced the home run derby. I just
wonder how long umpires are going to be around after
this is I call this a success last time.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, we may have robots behind the plate soon enough. Anyway,
I'm impressed by how it look at the player's reaction
to it, Like it's a little bit like unveiling. You know,
there used to be that game show behind door number
three and all weight it for it. Let's make a deal,
and it's got a little bit of a let's make
a call to it, like you kind of sit there
and everybody's kind of waiting. I'm impressed by how fast
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they can activate it. It's over in thirty seconds. My
first take was, I mean, I watched college football games.
The replay literally stops momentum of a great play, like
it stops the game, and so like, I'm impressed by
how quickly, how actionable that you get an answer.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
It's kind of blows NFL and NBA replay can take
like literally ninety seconds, two minutes, three minutes, and they're
looking at it from fifty.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Angles and it's very clear this was done in a heartbeat.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
I mean, the baseball has really they're gonna have to
make football and basketball level up pretty quickly on this stuff, right,
I agree?
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Yeah, all right. Let's go to the next story.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
And we teased it earlier in the show, but there's
now a list of the top ten wide receivers in
the NFL. This is according to executives, coaches, and scouts.
Jamar Chase was number one. I don't think there could
be major equival with that. Justin Jefferson checked.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
In at two.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Again, I don't think anybody could argue. What's interesting is
rounding out the top five, they had Tyreek Hill number three,
CD Lamb for a j Brown five, your guy aman
Ro Saint Brown at six. No Puka Nakua in the
top ten. I'm sure you have issue with that. Jarro Wilson,
my guy of the Jets checking in at ten. I
(21:56):
thought Malik Dabers was a little high. You can clearly
see that he.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Has a on a talent. If you ever Ha's a
quarterback lookout. But your take on.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
The the list, Yeah, I have Puka Nakou in there somewhere.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
You gotta boot somebody. We're not doing this internet thing.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh you go to having me?
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Who are you taking out of the top ten?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
A little harder than right, Probably Garrett Wilson. Sorry, I
think Aj Brown. I take Aj Brown over Tyreek Kills.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
So a lot of people say he doesn't have the
statistical profile to be anywhere near the top five because
he doesn't have the target share.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, yeah, AJ Brown played for Tennessee with Derrick Henry
run first team, and then he goes to Philadelphia Sakuon
Barkley last year run first team. They only threw the
ball twenty four times a game. And so I mean,
I look at AJ Brown as he just hasn't had
the environment. I mean, go look at Randy Moss's career.
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He was always talented. He plays with Tom Brady, He's
in fifty point games. Like AJ Brown played for one
centric Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry and and
it was kind of a physical Mike Frable team run
first and then he goes to a Philadelphia team which
Jalen hurts. They literally have for the five week. Fifth
week by said we're gonna throw the ball less. So
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in AJ Brown's always been like a little he can
tell with the book on the sideline. He's a little
myth by the fact they don't use him enough. But
I would put AJ Brown third if I had to
make a h third.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Wow, Okay, interesting A lot of people were saying he
should be lower. I will say when he was in Tennessee,
there was a number one seed in the AFC and
he was a beast. Then he goes to the Eagles
and they're in two Super Bowls. Obviously there's a lot
of players that that factor in. I think AJ Grodd
is elite.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
I have no issue with that.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
My thing is Tyree killcomor like if you're picking guys,
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
That he's top five for me.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Yes, the skill is there in the speed, but there's
so much other nonsense that goes with this guy that
doesn't that have to factor in.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, I mean, by the way, Puka Nakua no nonsense.
PFF had Pookin Nakua as their number one receiver last year.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
He hasn't even had the top ten Accoyd to executives.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Garrett Wilson or Poka Nakua. No gms take it, Garrett.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Not time out.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
I'm not gonna let just slander my guy. But Garrett
Wilson has had you know, half a leg Aaron Rodgers,
Zach Wilson, isn't it anybody you give him?
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Matt Stafford and Garrett Wilson might be top six on
this list.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, sure you've had all right.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Final story. Kirby's smart colin. He was at SEC media
Days yesterday and uh, you know, I talked about the
new influx of nil money and how it's really changed
some players, making it harder to recruit.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Guys and achieved team goals. He's got some points here.
Speaker 10 (24:45):
There's people more in college football today, especially in the SEC,
that are comfortable with where they are. This is a
pretty good life. I'm earning two hundred K a year.
I'm very comfortable. Hey, you don't reach your goals being comfortable.
What you see now is like, where's the drive and
energy and enthusiasm. Well, we want people that have it.
(25:07):
We're gonna seek it. We're gonna try to go find it.
And if we can just do that one percent better
than everybody else, gives us an opportunity to be ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well, I think that's every industry in America. A lot
of people are I don't think that's a fair criticism
of players. I think that's everybody in America. Not everybody
is aspirational, not everybody. My daughter is a really smart kid,
but she's like a dad. I don't want to own
a business. I don't want the stress of owning a business.
She's just not interested in. My son's the opposite. So
the idea, the truth is for some of these players,
(25:36):
let's be honest. Players know. I mean, you go to
Georgia and you're a wide receiver and your faith and
NFL guys in the secondary and at safety and you're
not getting open. You can figure out pretty quickly. I
can't beat my guys at Georgia and coverage. I'm probably
not an NFL guy, but I can make one hundred
and seventy five thousand dollars playing at Georgia. This is
(25:57):
top of the foot chain. You're probably comfortable, I think so.
I don't know if Kirby was criticizing him, but what
he's basically saying that every industry in America is like that.
Not everybody wants to put in seventy hours a week
and a lot of people get comfortable.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
This is a tough one because let's be real, like,
do you want a ten year future in the NFL
or short shelf life injuries blah blah blah, or do
you want to say, I'm going to use football as
a tool to get me a degree, and oh, by
the way, I'm making two hundred thousand dollars a year
on the football team.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Like, I think that's probably the smart move, Colin. Let's
be real. You know, NFL shelf life, it's NFL.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Not for long.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
You know some of these guys, I know Kirby's kind
of dinging them here, but I think it's smart business.
Can you imagine if you got out of college having
made two hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
That's a nest egg to start a business.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
If you want me to move wherever you want to
work remotely travel, Like, I think it's really smart of
these guys to get comfortable making that money.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Maybe they don't all want the NFL.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well, it's also a responsibility of the university to be prepared,
and so I am four players getting paid. I am
for the transfer portal, but I am a believer that
LSU and USC and Colorado jumped into that swimming pool
head first, and they've all underachieved. I mean, Colorado got better,
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but a lot of that's been a little bit of hype.
Is I would use great descriptions. I mean, Georgia, the
state of Georgia. You could just recruit the state of
Georgia and Florida and that's it, and you could have
a team. So I contend you should still seventy five
to eighty percent of your players should be high school players. Really, yeah,
(27:41):
And that's what Notre Dame's doing, and Notre Dame hasn't
been this good in ten years a minute.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
But then we saw what TCU a couple of years ago,
where they had, like PLF the starting lineup was transfer
portal guys and they make.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
A run of the playoff. And then I think we
saw that lot Indiana.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You know, but Indiana was a fraud. It's not sustainable.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
They made a playoff.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
If you're a coach, at off them and then we're humiliated.
I mean, great, but there's a there's a ceiling and
a lack of sustainability. On bringing in seventeen to twenty
four players a year from the from the portal.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
I'm telling you right now, this will happen this year.
Texas Tech will be a juggernaut. They will be awesome
in the Big twelve. They will put up great numbers
in a record and they'll probably make the playoff. And
other coaches are gonna miss the playoff okay, and their
boosters are gonna say, hey, how the hell is Texas
Tech and.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Where are you? Why aren't you there?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And you're if you put if you put Texas Tech
in the SEC and you put Texas Tech into Big ten,
they wouldn't because after a one game losing streak, all
the I gotta get mine portal guys would the chemistry,
because Texas Tech has talent. You cannot bring in thirty
five new guys, pay them all. Half the roster makes nothing.
(28:49):
Half the roster is rich, and think we gotta have
great chemistry. If you're winning in the crappy Big twelve,
then it's great. The minute you go to You're not
gonna lose any games in the Big twelve. You put
them in the SEC or Big ten and they go
to George and get rolled and everybody's finger pointing on
the flight back, and then you play the next week,
go to LSU and get rolled again and the whole
locker room inmploy.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
That's too many ifs, Colin again, look at the boosters.
They are going to look at some of these programs
coming out of nowhere with twenty transfer portal guys and
say why aren't we there? And they're gonna want to
go to their coach and the coach is gonna get
on the hot seat for not getting there.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
I'm just telling you it's a weird time. I love
it personally.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
And what's the same if you don't have a plan,
plan to fail. And we've seen that at Clemson with
your guy Dabo. He said, we don't need this portal.
And guess what, they're not reaching the highs they should.
Everyone else around them is leveling up.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Correct Well, they'll be in the national championship discussion. This
is They've got a they have maybe the I think
they have the second or third best quarterback. They have
sixteen returning starters. Clemson's got a week schedule out, They've
got a game against I think LSU early. They have
to go face Belichick in Carolina. But Clemson is gonna
win ten plus games. They're going to be in the playoff.
(30:02):
I guarantee you you guarantees and oh absolutely, they're making
the play.
Speaker 8 (30:07):
The social media team get that Clemson guaranteed in the play. Yeah,
that's bold in the acc.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Jmckle the news, Well, that's the news, and thanks for
stopping by the herd Line News. By the way, Bradley Beal,
who was it just didn't work in Phoenix, has agreed
to a contract buy out. The Sun's bought him out.
He's gonna go play for the Clippers. So uh, James
harden Kawhi, Leonard Bradley Beal, I don't.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Know, Wait a minute, he's going to the Clippers for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, that's what it says here for Oh no, that's.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
A huge loss for the Clip. Clippers are betting the
Lakers right now.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You think Bradley Beal makes that big of a difference.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Bradley Beal, James harden Kawhi, Leonard Zubac, they got a
good bench.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, that just screams great in May and June, well
to be great Bradley Beal and Phoenix. It was a disaster.
He couldn't stay healthy.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
It was a disaster that they were garbage. They recycled
their coaches.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I don't I don't have to read in. It would
have slapped me in the face for two years. It
was a disaster.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I can't believe He's definitely.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Nothing subtle or nuanced about Bradley Beal's Phoenix stay.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
It was awful.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
But reminder, Bradley Beal at fifty million a year with
the Suns ain't great. Bradley Beal at five million dollars
a year for the Clippers might be one of the
best deals in the league.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Colin, how did it?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
N Just ask yourself, does this sound like a championship team,
James Harden? Because in championship team you have to be
available and good in May in June Kawhi Leonard, James Harden,
Bradley Beal. I really if I had told you a year.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Ago, Colin, does this sound like an NBA Finals team?
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Tyrese Haliburton, Pascal Siakam and Andrew Nemhard they.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Went to Game seven of the final?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You know what I would have said, Yeah, they do, actually,
because they made the Eastern Conference Finals last two years ago.
So I would have said in the awful East. Yeah,
I would have said they're a viable finals but by
the way, you picked them to beat Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (32:15):
I d I liked them, but again I said a
year ago, like now this time you're saying, I'm just
telling you the Clippers are probably the second or third.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Best team in the West with this deal. Addition, no,
you're not. Vie Beal.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Oh my gosh, okay, all right, five million dollars a
year for a starting shooting guard.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
He has not played over sixty games in six years.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Yeah, that's an issue health and availabilities and an issue.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
But it's like Denver Houston paper clips. And then okay,
see damn the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Are so you got Kawhi, Leonard, Bradley Beal coin flip
if they're available on any given night. And James Harden,
who's going to make the Hall of Fame, But have
you ever trusted him in May?
Speaker 8 (32:57):
What about your guy Tyron lu two coaches on that staff,
they are probably doing cartwheels right now that they stole
Bradley Beal.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
How did Lebron and Luca not be like bro come
to the Lakers? What a disaster? Oh my gosh. Rob
Palika put him on the hot seat.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
The hell I can't believe. Did your TV go out?
Did you not get Suns games? Did your NBA pass
not shot like blackout? Shoot some Bradley bil had a
good Ye, he's got the reason the Suns were a
dumpster fire. Listen, just because you get a deal on
a used car doesn't make it a new car. It's
(33:34):
still a used car I bought. I bought a nineteen
seventy eight Fiat for one hundred and eighty bucks. It's
a nineteen seventy eight Fiat. It's not getting younger.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
You sound like a guy tolation drives new cars. Give
me a good used car the millionaire next door.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Baby.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Geez, what a steal that is for the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
The Clippers. Let me check this out. Yeah, they were
the oldest team in the league last season. Okay, Bradley
Beal's done something, taking the Golden Girls and saying, let's
add Charleston Heston or something like, get a little younger.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
The league's getting younger. They just got older girls. That's
classic you seventies baseball. Charlton Heston, Golden Girls.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Time out. They they didn't they just move Norman Powell.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
Yeah, they lost Norman Powell got off his contract, so.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I don't have Norman Powell, but I've got Bradley Beal.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Was that a downgrade?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Norman pal is pretty good good. He's a good player,
and he by the way he's he plays, by the way.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
The Clippers didn't they push Denver to seven games in
the opening round.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
I'm pretty sure they did.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
Your boy Jokic could barely get by these beat up Clippers.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I think you you kind of glazed over the in
the first round. This is a big one series in
the first round.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
You wait a minute.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
Two years, eleven million dollars for Bradley Beal, a three
time All Star who's probably gonna shoot forty percent from
time out.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Norman Powell shot forty two percent from threes last year. Contract,
Younger and healthier, better defender, more available. He was good.
No denying it, all right, It's the Herd.
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Speaker 1 (35:44):
So it's been SCC media days. We've been talking about
the nil as. I can like something, but be care
you know, I like ice cream, you know I don't
want it for breakfast. I like the NIL. I'd be
very careful about just adding a bunch of transfer portal players.
Steve sarkohesion at Texas. Texas is the most well funded
program right now in the country. They got more money
(36:05):
than anybody. I remember before when Texas was approved to
go to the SEC. I remember saying on the air
I was at Fox. I said, they are going to
change that conference. And Nick Saban, Remember Nick Saban started
complaining about He was very vague, but he started complaining
about NIL. He saw it coming. Is it Alabama money?
(36:25):
Alabama's economy is not Texas's economy. Go look up their
GDPs Gross domestic product. There's a lot more money in
Texas than Bama. And Nick Saban saw it and got out.
Remember when Urban Meyer left Florida and all the Bama
fans were like, oh, he's afraid. He's afraid of Nick Saban.
Nick Saban was afraid of what he saw at Texas.
I remember one of Saban's last years when Bama faced
(36:48):
Texas and I remember watching the game and thinking, oh,
Texas has much bigger, stronger, faster players. Well, Nick Saban
saw that and he got into broadcasting. He saw it coming.
So here's Sark on Nia.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
Well, one of the first things we do we don't
talk about NIL. We don't talk about NIL or revenue
sharing or publicity rights until the very end. And that
may hurt us on some kids. But if a kid
is coming to Texas for that reason, we don't want
them anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So I think you got about five or six teams.
Here's my national championship bubble. I think Obama, Clemson, and
Notre Dame are really close. I like Clemson's coach and quarterback. Listen,
Penn State. Let let's let's talk Penn State. I think
Penn State and Texas are going to play for the
national championship. I think Penn State. First of all, they
(37:39):
went and post Ohio State's defensive coordinator, so Jim Knowles
from Ohio State. So they're going to their coaching staff.
Their coordinator staff is world class. I think Drew Aller
is going to be the second best quarterback in the
country to Arch Manning. Singleton the running back. Their running
backs are both pros, so I think State's offense is
(38:01):
going to be a machine. So I think they play
for the national championship. Drew Aller is the guy that
he improved his accuracy. I didn't like him two years ago.
I watched him last year and I was like, oh, yeah,
that's a top that's a top ten pick in the draft.
I think Texas has improved every year under Steve Sarkeshan
arch Manning takes over at quarterback. They listen, They've got
(38:25):
five star recruits. Does Texas at eight different positions. It's
a star studded roster. I think arch Manning is really good,
so I think he's the one quarterback that will absolutely
go ahead of Drew Aller. So I have Texas and
Penn State. I also I'll put Ohio State in there.
They have Julian Sayan as a quarterback, California kid, five
(38:47):
star recruit. I haven't seen him play, but they have
the best offensive player in the country. The Buckeyes do
in Jeremiah Smith, and I think they have the best
defensive player in the country, Caleb Downs. I think Caleb
Downs would have gone number one or two last year
as a sophomore. I think he's just unbelievable, and they
just they recruit I mean Ryan Day, the critics the
Wolves are off him now because of the Natty win.
(39:10):
I also think Georgia can win the championship. I don't
know a ton about Gunner Stockton, the quarterback, but it's
a factory. Kirby Smart's a great coach. They've played. I mean,
they blew out Texas twice last year, so I just
have so much respect for the quality of athletes the
state of Georgia High School and Florida produce. I would
put Georgia in the national championship contention. I mean, they
(39:32):
kind of humiliated Texas twice, and I think Oregon is
in it. Dante Moore was a quarterback at UCLA. He transferred.
He it was a Michigan high school phenom. I think
he's really good. I think Dan Lanning's but an absolute
home run. As a coach. Lanning is better than I thought.
I mean, he came from Georgia. He was a defensive guy.
I'm like, really, I mean he was on Kirby smart staff.
(39:54):
How much coaching did he do? It was Kirby Smart's
defense he has been an absolute home run. They've got
a great linebacking corps, probably the best linebacking corps arguably
in college football. A couple All American candidates, great back
in in the secondary, so he's got they've got a
great back seven. And then I would put just outside Bama. Again,
(40:16):
Bama's really good. They got a receiver Ryan Williams that's insane,
and Kaylin de Bor is a great coach. I don't
know much about Tysimpson the quarterback. He's been sitting on
a bench for three years. I just don't know what
they are at quarterback. Kaitlin de Bor is a really
good quarterback coach, so I'm kind of guessing there Notre
Dame has a quarterback battle. I love their roster and
coaching staff, but again, I don't know what they are
at quarterback. Clemson, I know the quarterback sixteen starters, but
(40:40):
they haven't played in the portal at all, and I
just wonder if you put them up against Penn State,
Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, does Clemson have the athletes to
win a national compete against those guys. Acc is so
bad it's hard to tell, but I think there are
five teams that I just have more answers than questions.
Speaker 8 (40:59):
I like No.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Dame and Bama a lot, but I just I got
to see their quarterback play because you know, Riley Leonard
look a lot like Josh Allen to me, so a
little bit of a drop off in quarterback play for
the fighting Irish Albert Bruers around the corner. Bradley Beal.
(41:21):
Bradley Beal was quarterback in Notre Dame Food. I was
seventeen and Oho
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