August 5, 2025 • 41 mins
Colin talks to Nick Wright from First Things First who defends Caleb Williams from criticisms about his rookie season and slow start to training camp
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Wherever you may be, and however you may be watching
or listening, appreciate it. So Men and Blazers is a
very popular sports podcast, and they had Tom Brady on
talking about soccer, and it's interesting. I always feel like
I'm defending soccer and there's just a percentage of guys
that are never going to buy into it. But I
always feel soccer in America is appropriately popular. It happens
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every fourth year, the World Cup, right, And so it's
like those relatives you see ever read four years, they're
not real family.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Even though you're related.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's not like your own kids that you hold much
more responsible. You get the highs and lows of the
daily rituals and routines, and that the truth is when
the World Cup was here in ninety ninety four, it's
it broke records that stand today in attendance, and the
World Cup, the next one in the United States, will
shatter those records. And Tom Brady was talking about I
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don't think soccer needs anything in America. I think it's
as popular as it's ever going to be. And I
think it's really popular when you consider that we have
massive infrastructure of college football and college basketball. We are
an over stimulated, distracted country. It's bigger in Europe. Europe
doesn't have our college football or basketball. They don't have
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the NHL like we do. I mean, We've got MLS, NHL, NASCAR, NFL, NBA. Canada,
by the way, Canada's got NHL, NBA, CFL. They don't
even have our college system, this labyrinth of you know,
three hundred and fifty Division one basketball programs like we
have here. And so here's Tom Brady talking about a
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little bit what soccer needs.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
We need the youth in America. In soccer, we need
a young phenom like a Uman Lamal, a young Lino
Messi to take over. And I believe that there would
be the most amazing kind of cultural revolution for soccer
here in America. We love rooting for winners. We love
rooting for the best of the best. The World Cup
is coming to America in twenty twenty six. You can't
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imagine the fanfare when that happens. Every stadium will be
sold out. The American audience loves it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I always feel like hockey feels like Canada, the NFL
in college football feel like US. But soccer, you know,
seventeen hundreds, eighteen hundreds. There's four hundred year old pubs
in Europe. They're older than US. Soccer's old. There are
four hundred year old you know. If you walk around Europe,
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it's like you're walking in an outdoor museum. I mean,
just just go to Vienna, to go to these European cities.
I was in Florence a couple of years ago. I
felt like the whole trip I was walking in a museum.
I love Seattle, it doesn't feel that way, right. I
like Denver, it doesn't feel like a museum. So I
always feel like soccer is appropriately popular. It's the relatives
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you see every three years and you love them, but
they don't feel like your kids. And that's not a
knock on soccer. I think Fox is gonna break records.
I think we still hold the nineteen ninety four World
Cup still holds the attendance records, and I do think
we have I think Polisic, I don't know where he
ranks globally, but he's our best player.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Ever. I think we have more skill than ever.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I always feel like I am defending soccer, and I
don't think it needs defending. I think it's really popular here,
but if you go up every four years, you're not
going to be football or the NBA or college football.
You're not gonna be Ohio State Michigan. That's the reality
of it, and I love it. My friends outside of
the NFL, the guys I hang out with, soccer is
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their number two. They'll watch the English Premier League over
everything but the NFL seriously so. And I remember when
I recently, it was seventeen eighteen, nineteen years ago, not
recently got married. Anne's young boys in New England, Josh
and Riley, did not watch baseball. They watched the English
Premier League downstairs in the house. I was like, I
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remember watching that and thinking, Wow, I'm in New England
and they're not watching the Red Sox. They're watching soccer.
So I never think soccer needs defending. Now sometimes Nick
Wright does, and he now joins us live. Nick Wright
first things first.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Is joining us.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So what's up, buddy. Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You know you don't want to make too much of
little stuff, but I do think little stuff. I always
call it the drip drip drip becomes a faucet that's leaking.
And I've got last year, and I've got Mini camp
in OTAs. Now I've got the Net video with Caleb Williams,
and I'm like, shouldn't I be a little uneasy with
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the moodiness, the accuracy it's a I mean I watched
Shadon Daniels and Vo Nicks. They were good immediately. I
have questions about what I say with Jones Williams.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Mac Jones good immediately too. I mean, the good immediately
is not always the right answer. Here's the thing this,
I do not care about him missing these passes, especially
because either the day before or the day after this video,
I'm not sure the sequence of it. In this exact drill,
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he went five for five right into the bucket, So
it's not we know he can make that pass. The
only part of this video that I is bothersome to
me is that part the reaction. I do think that Caleb,
as an emotional guy, needs to recognize his responsibility as
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the leader of the team and the quarterback, and needs
do a better job of keeping his cool. So when
he was in college, people made a big deal of
the after the loss, I forget to whom, when he
was with his mother and appeared to be crying. I
kind of stayed out of that because it felt like
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a lot of the criticism there was a wink and
a nod, criticism of he paints his nails, he carries
a purse, Now he's crying, and I felt it was
untoward what I do think would have been fair criticism,
and his fair criticism is whether it would have been
him crying or if he had flipped over the gatorade
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table and broke in a cooler. We want our quarterback
to be level headed, to be, you know, calm in
the stores, and I think that I do think that
is an.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Area he needs to improve. But I saw you yesterday, Colin.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
You know you sold just a few of your Caleb shares,
and let.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Me tell you, I had my brokers scoop him up.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I was like, you know what he's gonna He's gonna.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Sell the dip.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I'm gonna buy it all, take more of the Caleb
stock and so, and we'll see.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I think he's going.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I think Ben Johnson is trying, not in that drill,
but trying to throw a lot at him. Is fine
with him struggling, is fine with him being frustrated.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So we can build him back up. I still believe in.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
The transcendent talent, and I think Ben Johnson's a sharp coach, so.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I think it will work.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
But I just need him to be a little more
even keeled.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, So I'm gonna bounce around here, and I want
to get to this topic. I said that it's a
basketball topic. I didn't have a problem with Lebron, James
or Brouny because we all know the deal here.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
If they're on a yacht.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
In Santrope with Savannah and they don't make a press
conference and they do a video call, I'm okay with it.
Lebron is messy. He's Ronald though we're talking different ballgame here.
It's Brad Pitt. He can't make every you know, carpet.
I get it, but I said Luca being in the
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kind of shape he's in. It's year two and three Luca,
and last year I got lumpy Luca. This year I
get lean Luca and I think Lebron and maybe he
can handle it or maybe he can't. I don't want
Austin Reeves to have the ball. I don't want I
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think old KD. You could argue we'll play better with
lean Luca than lumpy Luca. Last year he couldn't beat
people off the dribble. He needed Lebron who still can't that.
I think the struggle isn't whether he's at a press conference.
Is that you're going to get now year two in
three Luca, where he not only beat people off the dribble,
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he finished dunking at the rim. That guy is back,
and I in his usage rate in those years was
the highest ever. Is that I think Lebron's numbers for
the first time in his career. You will watch Luke
and Lebron and there will be a noticeable gap in
performance and we've never seen it with Lebron.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
We've never seen it. But like there's listen, Lebron last
year got the sixth most MVP votes and the sixth
most all NBA First Team votes. He finished sixth in
both of those categories. He was, according to the voters,
the sixth best player in basketball last year. Let's assume
there's a little actrophy from there, going now into year
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twenty three of his career and where he's going to
be turning forty one, and let say he goes from
that to ninth or tenth best in the league. Luca
is one of unequivocally the four best players in the league.
I think he's one of the three best players in
the league. I understand that it's a harder argument to
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make now because of what Shaye accomplished, But I think
Luca is better than Shay. Everyone thought that nine months ago.
Now seemingly only I and maybe Zach Low think it.
But I think Luca is a top three player in
the league. He's supposed to be much better than whomever
his next best teammate. Is where I disagree with people
about how Lebron will take that. I think Lebron, for
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the better part of the last five years, had been
hoping that he would be able to make this transition
because of Anthony Davis. I think Lebron as we saw
in the Olympics, and once they got Luca last year,
relishes the opportunity to be able to give more of
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his energy on the defensive end because he doesn't have
to carry all of the load on the offensive end.
Lebron's issue has and I know this has nothing to
do with Luca or whether or not Luca has superseded
him in the NBA player hierarchy at this point in
his career. Lebron's singular issue is is my timeline and
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the lakers timeline now totally misaligned or are they still
at least kind of together Where the Lakers, yes, obviously
they need to have a long term vision, but do
they also think we can win a championship right now
and we are going to go for that because this
might be my last year. And here is why I
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would argue for the Lakers they should unless they have
a secret handshake agreement that Giannis is signing there in
two years. The overwhelming odds that if we were to
in three years when this extension for Luca's over, say, hey,
who's the single best player Luca ever played with with
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the Lakers in his four years with the team. The
answer is likely going to be Lebron. When Lebron leaves,
the idea that they're going to get one of the
six players in the league or seven players in the
league better than Lebron as a running mate is unlikely.
So if I were the Lakers, I would treat this
season as we have Luca, who can win MVP. Lebron's
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coming off a great year. We filled out the roster
a bit, maybe add one more wing or maybe a
backup center, and why can't we go win four rounds?
That's what Lebron wants them to do. I don't blame
him for that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Okay, this may be below your standards of a topic choice,
but now I have had kind of a thing and
there's a lot of truth in it, although sometimes just
to be a not I go a little over the
top and a little fiat.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
So tell me we're doing the visor. Tell me we're
doing the visor right?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So I'm a houard.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, go ahead, Okay, So my thing is there are
dress codes in life. There are members clubs, there's golf courses,
there's events where you have to wear a collared shirt.
It's one thing to have a hat on backwards for
a wide receiver in an interview on the field to
be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. A backwards advisor.
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I had a general manager text me this morning. He goes,
you're going to get nothing but crap, and you are
on target. A general manager in the league said, don't
stop on this. Here's a guy that nobody believes can coach.
And he looks like the guy that when you call
one eight hundred junk, picks up the boxes and that's stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
From your garage.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's the Cowboys, it's Bank of America, it's the biggest
brand in the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
That look bothers me.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, done it does? I know it does soup things.
Just one clarification for the audience. I don't know who
you get on the other end of the line if
you call one eight hundred junk, but I wouldn't call it.
And that's not the number column men. But the point
is taken. So here's the thing, Colin. You have always
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been right about this, and deep down everyone knows it.
But because you are maybe a touch hyperbolic or theatrical,
people attack you. But we all we like, we all
agree that every single day we are all making choices
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with how we present ourselves to the world. We all
agree that Bill Belichick was the reason that his gruff,
cut up, dirty hoodie was considered cool was purely because
A he was an all time winner and b it
fit the theme that he.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Was trying to present.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Everyone knows that now does is a backwards hat across
the board necessarily as much of a faux pas as
you seem to.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Think it is?
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Probably not, But is a backwards visor a good look
on anyone?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I'm yet to see it.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
And does everyone, even the biggest critics of you on this,
does everyone agree? It's a matter of degree that we
are arguing about, because everyone agrees that if he came
to the press conference with mustard stained all over his
face and shirtless but said the exact same stuff, we'd
be like, yeah, the presentation's wrong.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
We all agree that there is a level.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Your level just happens to be an orientation of the
cap or visor in this case, which again I've never
cared about quite as much as you. But I also
think if there were a Hall of Fame on twenty
years sports topics, this is a first ballot entry. People
now see people wearing backwards caps and they're like, oh boy, Okay,
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we're gonna get four minute masterclass from Cowbird today.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I mean, it's kind of your legacy.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
It might be a little sad thing, but it's in
the first page of the obituary.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Tell you that much. It probably is.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I probably need a second good take after thirty years.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Final final thing on this is that the media does
this with politics and they do it with personalities. Is
that they pick people they like and they just decide,
we like this guy. There was a Stephen Colbert. The
media is like, he's a good guy. And my take
is the show is losing forty million. It went heavy political.
The demographics got sixty nine years old, is the average age.
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Nobody's going to do a forty million dollar losing show
on network TV in twenty twenty five, maybe thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
But the media decided they liked him, and that's fine.
But the media has decided they like Mike McDaniels. We're
three years in Brian Flores. The two years before Mike
McDaniels got there that a better winning percentage than the
last three years with him. And that's with the Patriots
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being a disaster and the Jets being a disaster that
the media has decided they didn't like Brian Flores, they
didn't like him, they like Mike McDaniel. If I had
an opening today, what are the Dolphins? I knew what
Flora is after about eight weeks, about week nine on
those Flores teams were nasty. It took him a while
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to develop it. I'm three years in with Mike McDaniel.
Is this a case of the media deciding he's smart,
we like him. Where's that they're there with the Dolphins?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Okay, so a couple things first, is I think this
is a take I agree with you on, unlike the
Colbert take, which I vehemently disagree with you on. And
we can save that for the next time I'm on
the podcast. Probably not the time and place for it
right now, but let's put a pin in that.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
We'll talk about it on the volume at some point.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
On Mike McDaniel, you are correct in that he reminds
a lot of sports media of themselves. Yes, Like, that's
just flatly true. Like the smaller Rye humor kind you
know it signed kind of very almost dark humor yesterday,
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analytical guy. I think there are a lot of people
covering football that see themselves in him, which then makes
you want to root for the guy to succeed you.
Then also, I do think objectively he is a very
smart and inventive offensive play designer, and I also think
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he got the absolute most out of Tua. I think
there are some things to like, but where I think
there is and whether this is not just about Mike McDaniel,
This is about how football is covered today, as analytics
and as a smarter people start having larger voices in
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the cover In covering a football, I think there is
a experience gap in how physically brutal the game is
and the type of people that actually play it at
the highest level, and therefore how hard it can be
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to actually lead that group of men, and the reason
and so it to me this is a cousin of
Sometimes I see some of the smartest people, supposedly smartest
people covering football, who I think truly believe the way
they present it. Every time you run the ball is
stupid because the EPA per play on a bad pass
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is higher than on a good run. And this, that
and all of it makes sense except for the fact
that there is.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
When for eighty years, every person.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
That's ever played the game has One of the first
things they have talked about is the importance of being
able to run and like the way it can you
can kind of sap the will of your opponent.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yes, in some way, you.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Just got to be like they probably know what they're talking.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
About, Like I haven't been out there, but like, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
It seems like if like you can make the d
tackle frustrated, there might be a value that doesn't show
up in the numbers.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
So that's a.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Long explanation to get to McDaniel, which is I think
there is some of the reason that the media loves
him might also be related to why his team pretty
clearly does not fear him the way they seem to
some of the more effective coaches. And I like McDaniel,
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but it seems like it's gotten away from him a
bit with the Dolphins. And I want to make this clear,
I'm not an anti analytics guy. I'm not an anti
kind of you know, smart learning the game thing, But
I think that there is an arrogance to the idea
that that's in some ways that football has talked about
when it comes to the actual physicality and toughness of
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the game that gets lost in some of the math.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
No, this is something I had an executive tell me
years ago, he said, And this was years and I
was at the other place, and he said, the hardest
part of about the draft is you just don't necessarily
know on tape. Am I drafting somebody who is willing
to impose his will and soul on another equally big
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strong man and ray Lewis could be smaller and slower.
You turn the lights off, put ray Lewis in a
room with any other player, Ray's coming out of the room.
And there is something there is value in the NFL
in just toughness.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Well, can I add to that real quick?
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I know we have to go, but I I have said,
and again I'm not an anti McDaniel guy, but I
think people should go back and watch the Chiefs Dolphins
playoff game two years ago. When the Chiefs were came
limping into the playoffs. They you know, I think, I'm
you know, they were It was when they had the
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first road games. Now, they of course ended up going
to and winning the Super Bowl because they're the Chiefs,
but they seem to be a vulnerable team.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
And that was the third coldest.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Game in NFL history, and Andy Reid came out, and he.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Looked like Andy Reid.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
He was dressed like Andy Reid is dressed, even though
by halftime he literally had icicles on his mustache. And
Mike McDaniel came out as bundled up as you've ever
seen a human being.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
And I said, I said on.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
The air that week, I was like, cause the Dolphins
had no interest in being there.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
They you know, they got annihilated from the very beginning.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
And I said, I can't prove it, but I feel
like the Chiefs saw their coach acting like this is
a normal game, normal business, and they were and they
internalized it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
And the Dolphins saw their.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Coach acting like this is the coldest I've ever been
in my entire life, and they internalize that, and I
just think they're a little I think football is so
different because it's so physically painful, it's so dangerous, it's
so brutal, that there is just a lot of magic
in the indefinable toughness stuff. And I think that's kind
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of what I'm getting at here.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
No, I'll close it on this years ago, I was
sitting watching it was Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in
a playoff game in Foxborough and Jim Nantz is doing
it and he's going to a commercial and they show
a pre game shot. We're coming back with a kickoff
next and they show Peyton Manning and he looks like
he is freezing. He's with a I think the cult
at this point. He looks like he's freezing, and I'm like,
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it's over. Brady's out there high five and Peyton Manny
who plays in the dome, and Indy looked and I thought, oh,
that's just terrible body language.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And I think we agree on that.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
All right, buddy, Absolutely great to see a Seacon.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
All right, we'll get to that Stephen Colbert thing on
a podcast near you. I swear we would. No. I
think there is something to be said is that I'm
not anti analytics ever, but I've said this before about
the NBA. Those analytics go out the window in the
playoffs because you just coach differently, and the NBA efficients
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officiates differently. Analytics in baseball it's built for the volume
of one hundred and sixty two games you go into the playoffs.
Dave Roberts is going to use his bullpen differently in
the playoffs than he does any other time of the year.
So all the analytics are built for volume of games.
But what happens when you get down to a five game,
seven game series. Well, in the NBA, the games are
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officiated differently. You don't get the whistle, you don't get
the regular season whistle. So I like analytics and football,
but a lot of it comes down to mental and
physical toughness. And I mean Philadelphia's best play is gaining
half a yard. All the analytics of football, Tom Brady
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was unstoppable on quarterback sneaks. I mean, if it was
fourth and one, Brady got the first down here, he
mastered it. So with all the analytics with football, sometimes
it's like Philly and Tom Brady have mastered getting a
yard in January and Buffalo, by the way, with Josh
Allen was.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
A circus trying to get a yard.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Sometimes the game is just that, the will and the
toughness to get a yard in lousy weather.
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Speaker 1 (26:33):
Joel Klaff Texas Ohio State. I still think I take
the points with Texas. Ohio State has the two best players.
They're at home. I think I would take the points
with Sark and arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
What I get with Ohio State at quarterback. I have
no ideas really talented, five star kid at That's a
tough opener.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
J Mac with the news, this is the line news,
all right, let's bust right into it.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
A team.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
I believe you're sleeping on the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I think this offense is going to go.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
To the moon.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
They just announced that Travis Hunter in the intent is
he's going to play both ways. On the first depth
chart Jacksonville released, Hunter was listed as a starting wide
receiver and a backup cornerback, which is pretty much what
we expected right Situationally, he would probably appear in some
dime packages.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Just too athletic to not get the ball to twelve
times A Yes, I want the ball in his hands.
I don't want him on an island and the team
decides not to throw to his side of the ball
and he's baking in the Jacksonville son and never touching
the football. I want him to touch the ball.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Sounds like Liam Cohen is going to scheme him up
a lot. And here is Cohen, the new head coach,
talking about his offensive and defensive Rookie of the Year candidate.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
These guys are challenging him every single day, like he
doesn't get a free pass because he was second overall pick.
In these traps Hunter like they are in his grill,
trying to jam them up, trying to hem them up,
trying to make it as hard as they can possibly
make it for him in a great way, like in
the most healthy way as possible, where they're going at
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it and chirping at each other.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And by the way.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You know what I like about Travis Hunter from what
you can tell, just a nice kid.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
He's a football kid. He's into it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Like considering how gifted he is, is he going to
be the Otani of football?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Well, I mean, you say what you want.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Let's say I don't get a lot of guys that
are like elite receivers and elite corners, like we went
we freaked out with Bo Jackson if Bo Jackson wasn't
playing linebacker, Like this kid has a chance to be
all time stuff here, like like not just receiver, partmer turner,
elite corner, Troll Bowl receiver. Like I don't think that.
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I mean it's it's usually the people I trust that
I've talked to about him, They're like, listen, this is
just different. He's going to be the best athlete in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Very quickly. Think about that.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
That's bold.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
I just want to reinforce so Liam Cohen very sharp
offensive mind. In Tampa, that offense was awesome. They had
Evans and Godwin. They've essentially recreated that with the young
kid Brian Thomas, who was awesome last year. Yeah, and
now Travis Hunter. And remember in Tampa he had a
flotilla of backs. He's got Etn and Bigsby. They were
a good combo last year. I'm just telling you, if
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Lawrence can stay healthy, this is an offense. It should
be a top ten unit in the league.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Gulling.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
I don't know about the defense holding off people, but
I think they will challenge Houston for second in the division.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And I can't wait to watch him.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
It's very rare.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Usually I really want to watch rookie quarterbacks. I can't
remember the last time there was a non quarterback, but
I really want to see play. I think he has
a chance to be an all time special kid.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
I know we don't want to relitigate Trevor Lawrence every
single year, but he came in as the next Andrew
Luck caliberquarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Hasn't totally lived up to it.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Has had a couple injuries, He's had like half a
dozen coaches colin. He's still a young quarterback with major upside.
I'm buying. I'm gobbling up all the Trevor Lawrence stock
I can find. Are you interested in.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That at all or not?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Really?
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Well?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I will say this, if you look at Indye, and
if you look at Indy, let's see the Texans have
an established quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Jacksonville two seasons.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I think if you look at Tennessee and Indy, I
don't know if they have the offensive firepower to just
keep up with Jacksonville and Houston. If Houston's healthy, if
Jacksonville's healthy, it's an offensive league, and I mean it's
probably the smart player to go. Jacksonville. Texans top two
in that division either order. They just they have more
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established quarterbacks and more dynamic players around the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
You have too many questions for the Colts. Let's move
to another team in the AFC. Hey Man, nobody loves
the Patriots like you.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
This is your team that you've stook a.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
You know, you've planted a flag in the New England Patriots.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You love them well.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
New head coach Mike Rabel has been putting a lot
of stuff on Drake May's plate, and May's been delivering.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Here's Rabel just so geeked about his quarterback. There's protections.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
I mean, there's when he sees something that he can
help or he sees it a lot better than I
think than some other players, or alignment or you know,
if you see something, say something and don't assume that
everybody's seen it the way that you're seeing it. I
see him get guys in the right formations, or tell
guys that, hey you're off the ball, you're on the ball,
or hey you're over here doing that quickly as before.
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Sometimes young quarterbacks they're just focused on the plate. They're
focused on the cadence and not focused on sideline the sideline,
and I think that that's starting to improve.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Mark now on ten wins, Buddy, Oh, that's an easy one.
So that's an easy one.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Let me let me challenge you on this Drake May stuff.
So I loved him coming out. I thought he'd be
better than Jayden Daniels. We call that a bit of
a whiss. I am curious who will have a better season,
Drake May or Caleb Williams in year two.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I think Caleb faces a tougher schedule. I think I
think Drake May as a proven coach, I think it's
an easier schedule, and I think.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I'll be honest with you, it's it's tough. I I
like Drake May. I thought I thought he was.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Kind of justin Herbert, just not as polished coming out
of college. If I had to bet my four one
k I would say that Drake May will be more
consistently good than Caleb the Klee will have more flash
plays and will be more spectacular. But if you're just
talking seventeen starts, who's more consistently b plus, I would
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say Drake May.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
So I am going to read off the wide receiver
depth chart for the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You're talking ten wins. Okay, Number one.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Is Stefan Diggs, who's coming off a major injury, getting
up there in age, and we know more.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Of a two now we.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Know his off field habits are questionable, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Number two to Mario Douglas. Okay. Number three on the
depth Dart mac Collins.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
That's the guy that Buffalo is like, hey man, you
occasionally showed up.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Thank you for your service. You're out.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Number four Kyle Williams, Kay, Shawn Boody, Kendrick Bourne Colin.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
That is a weak wide receiver group. One of the
weeks in the division.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I will say Kyle Williams is has a potential to
be very good. Kyle Williams could be one of those
guys that you look at and go, who's Kyle Williams
rookie out of Washington State. Right now, he says, a
really good player. I don't think they have a great
receiving corps, and I don't think they're a dominant team.
What I do think they are is ten and seven,
and they make it in as the Dolphins don't really
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have an identity and the Jets are once again in
a rebuild.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm not saying they are a twelve win team.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I don't think they're going to be a team that
wins playoff games, but I think they're gonna get in
as a wildcard team.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Listen, if Drake may takes that poopoo plotter of receivers
to the playoffs, he I mean, you might as well
just say he's the seventh best quarterback in the league.
Final story, Colin college Football, Your boy, Dabo Sweeney. I
feel like he has been irrelevant since you guys went
toe to toe a few years ago. He's talking tough
right now. Okay, he finally hits a transfer portal and
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now all of a sudden, he told a reporter, I've
had one undefeated team in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
We were the first fifteen oh.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
Team in the history of major college football, and I
think we're going to be the first sixteen and O
team this year.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
It's a race to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Now.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
Clemson is the class of the ACC, no doubt about it.
They do have an early land mine against LSU and
what should be a very good game on August thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
But after that, I mean, the ACC is largely a joke.
FSU's not very good this year.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
They're going to run through this schedule. Yeah, They're gonna
run through. He's got a great quarterback. I think they
returned like fifteen starters. They went to the portal a little.
I think they went and got like three guys. They
didn't really use the portal. He's a believer in build
it with high school football recruiting. They have great connections
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in that region for high school football. They are gonna
fly through this schedule. Yeah, this is going to be
This is going to be a top three or four team.
Like I like Ohio State, Texas, Oregon, they have Penn State.
They have much tougher schedules than klubs.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
Yeah, I'll just say I do like Dabo, Dabbo, Dabbo,
whatever you guys want to call him. I just what
he in recent years, he's been so stand office.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I've kind of been off him, but now.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
He's talking tough again because he's got a great hand.
Like I meanon Bruce Fellman was telling me this defensive.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Line is the best in the country.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Well and there he I think he needed to use
the portal more than he did. But in fairness, here's
teams that really used the portal a lot usc LSU
How did it work? Don't forget Indiana and s m
U Indiana, it doesn't matter in college football.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Is really awful.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Like Clemson recruits at a very high level high school football.
They get a lot of four star guys. And his
take is I'm not going to use it. Now he's
using it a little, and I don't think he used
it enough. But it's okay. If one program that's good
says we're not gonna you know, like for years, I mean,
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Kentucky led the world in won and done's they got
they got one title. Well, well, no, it's not bad,
but everybody knows Calipari was pushed out of Kentucky. Listen
he would Yeah, he was viewed as underachieving. So this
idea that the portal is this magic elixur for success, No.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Colorado LSU and the USC have lived on it. It's
not I think Dabo should have used it more. But
when you're Clems in a role, if Ohio State used
a portal for three players a year, they would still
be winning eleven games as long as the guys they
got were Caleb Downs level. But I think the portal
to me is a little overvalued at this point.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
With a little overvalue, the analogy I like is the
portal is like Major League Baseball salary cap. Right, you
can spend all you want. It's not going to guarantee success,
but it is certainly going to help your chances at
getting to the postseason if you spend more money in
Major League Baseball as opposed to the bottom feeders who
don't spend money and have no chance if you hit
the portal hard. Keep an eye on to my Texas
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Tech red Raiders. I needed them to send me some
swag because I'm all in on them making the playoffs
this year.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Jmck with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping that.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
The herd line news is Jerry Jones negotiating with players
directly just really the smart way to do it.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
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Speaker 1 (38:23):
You know, it's interesting just to show you that the
nfl PA has never been terribly strong. Jerry Jones basically,
and he's done this before. He's trying to negotiate with
Micah Parsons directly. The NBA would never allow that, like
Baseball wouldn't allow that. The players' union's too strong. NBA
wouldn't allow it. But that you know, Jerry's done it before,
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he's doing it again with Micah.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I think the whole thing's a bit of a mess.
I've said this.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I think the Cowboys have just gotten very insular. The
schedule is interesting for Dallas because there are a couple
of teams in this league that I think are in
big trouble. But they get soft landings early, like you know,
I mean, the Cowboys get the Giants at home early.
They get you know, the Jets, Carolina and the Bears early,
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though those are all winnable games. I think by week seven,
here comes Washington, Denver, Philly, Kansas City, Detroit's I think
it's gonna get really ugly. I think I think up
to the by it'll it'll feel okay. Then I think
you're gonna start getting into week eleven and on and
and the I think they're gonna be in big trouble.
But the whole, the whole Michael Parsons thing. Again, like
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as the league has gotten smarter and modernized, they're really
good teams.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Just get ahead of this stuff. They don't get trapped.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
The Rams and I and I don't say this just
because I spent nine years in LA. The Rams are
they don't get into these weird situations. They keep their players.
You know, Matt Stafford, We're gonna keep him at a camp.
He's getting bruised, and they just they they know how
to work all these situations where Dallas feels like they
inflame all of them. This Mica things should not He's
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been fairly compensated. He's a great player, but I mean
he's one of the highest cap hits even this year,
he's gonna be one of the highest hits for his
position in the league without getting the big contract yet,
so he's been fairly compensated. Matt Hasselbeck yesterday on the
whole Micah Jerry contract on and off.
Speaker 10 (40:24):
Jerry Jones seems to like be fine with this kind
of conflict, fine with this kind of drama, but he
also doesn't seem like the kind of owner that wants
to get like pushed around publicly. So you know, there's
a part of me that says, hey, this is Michael Parsons.
Figure it out, closed the door, include the agent. Then
there's another part of me that says, hey, why don't
you just punt on this year anyway, go out and
get like the most amazing draft package for next year
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and really start focusing this team on next year, because
I really don't know that you can compete with Philly
and that you can compete really with Washington. And then
the rest of the NFC.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Well, I mean, the Cowboys have the longest NFC championship
game drought. It's going to turn thirty years this year,
and they're not going to make the NFC Championship this year.
But you can blame a lot of factors, and you know,
I can just blame Jerry Jones, we can all blame Dak,
but it really comes down to this, how.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Do you draft?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I mean, the reason the Rams in Philadelphia, the Lions,
and the Ravens, you know are consistently good in Buffalo
is they mostly draft well and Belichick at the end
of New England last seven years they drafted poorly. Brady
saw it and left. I stn't think Dallas drafts consistently
at a high level. And a lot of that is
Jerry views himself as a GM and he's an owner.
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Here we go our two. Nick writes, around the corner,
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Wherever you may be, and however you may be watching
or listening, appreciate it. So Men and Blazers is a
very popular sports podcast, and they had Tom Brady on
talking about soccer, and it's interesting. I always feel like
I'm defending soccer and there's just a percentage of guys
that are never going to buy into it. But I
always feel soccer in America is appropriately popular. It happens
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every fourth year, the World Cup, right, And so it's
like those relatives you see ever read four years, they're
not real family.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Even though you're related.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's not like your own kids that you hold much
more responsible. You get the highs and lows of the
daily rituals and routines, and that the truth is when
the World Cup was here in ninety ninety four, it's
it broke records that stand today in attendance, and the
World Cup, the next one in the United States, will
shatter those records. And Tom Brady was talking about I
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don't think soccer needs anything in America. I think it's
as popular as it's ever going to be. And I
think it's really popular when you consider that we have
massive infrastructure of college football and college basketball. We are
an over stimulated, distracted country. It's bigger in Europe. Europe
doesn't have our college football or basketball. They don't have
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the NHL like we do. I mean, We've got MLS, NHL, NASCAR, NFL, NBA. Canada,
by the way, Canada's got NHL, NBA, CFL. They don't
even have our college system, this labyrinth of you know,
three hundred and fifty Division one basketball programs like we
have here. And so here's Tom Brady talking about a
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little bit what soccer needs.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
We need the youth in America. In soccer, we need
a young phenom like a Uman Lamal, a young Lino
Messi to take over. And I believe that there would
be the most amazing kind of cultural revolution for soccer
here in America. We love rooting for winners. We love
rooting for the best of the best. The World Cup
is coming to America in twenty twenty six. You can't
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imagine the fanfare when that happens. Every stadium will be
sold out. The American audience loves it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I always feel like hockey feels like Canada, the NFL
in college football feel like US. But soccer, you know,
seventeen hundreds, eighteen hundreds. There's four hundred year old pubs
in Europe. They're older than US. Soccer's old. There are
four hundred year old you know. If you walk around Europe,
(03:05):
it's like you're walking in an outdoor museum. I mean,
just just go to Vienna, to go to these European cities.
I was in Florence a couple of years ago. I
felt like the whole trip I was walking in a museum.
I love Seattle, it doesn't feel that way, right. I
like Denver, it doesn't feel like a museum. So I
always feel like soccer is appropriately popular. It's the relatives
(03:28):
you see every three years and you love them, but
they don't feel like your kids. And that's not a
knock on soccer. I think Fox is gonna break records.
I think we still hold the nineteen ninety four World
Cup still holds the attendance records, and I do think
we have I think Polisic, I don't know where he
ranks globally, but he's our best player.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Ever. I think we have more skill than ever.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I always feel like I am defending soccer, and I
don't think it needs defending. I think it's really popular here,
but if you go up every four years, you're not
going to be football or the NBA or college football.
You're not gonna be Ohio State Michigan. That's the reality
of it, and I love it. My friends outside of
the NFL, the guys I hang out with, soccer is
(04:14):
their number two. They'll watch the English Premier League over
everything but the NFL seriously so. And I remember when
I recently, it was seventeen eighteen, nineteen years ago, not
recently got married. Anne's young boys in New England, Josh
and Riley, did not watch baseball. They watched the English
Premier League downstairs in the house. I was like, I
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remember watching that and thinking, Wow, I'm in New England
and they're not watching the Red Sox. They're watching soccer.
So I never think soccer needs defending. Now sometimes Nick
Wright does, and he now joins us live. Nick Wright
first things first.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Is joining us.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So what's up, buddy. Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You know you don't want to make too much of
little stuff, but I do think little stuff. I always
call it the drip drip drip becomes a faucet that's leaking.
And I've got last year, and I've got Mini camp
in OTAs. Now I've got the Net video with Caleb Williams,
and I'm like, shouldn't I be a little uneasy with
(05:23):
the moodiness, the accuracy it's a I mean I watched
Shadon Daniels and Vo Nicks. They were good immediately. I
have questions about what I say with Jones Williams.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Mac Jones good immediately too. I mean, the good immediately
is not always the right answer. Here's the thing this,
I do not care about him missing these passes, especially
because either the day before or the day after this video,
I'm not sure the sequence of it. In this exact drill,
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he went five for five right into the bucket, So
it's not we know he can make that pass. The
only part of this video that I is bothersome to
me is that part the reaction. I do think that Caleb,
as an emotional guy, needs to recognize his responsibility as
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the leader of the team and the quarterback, and needs
do a better job of keeping his cool. So when
he was in college, people made a big deal of
the after the loss, I forget to whom, when he
was with his mother and appeared to be crying. I
kind of stayed out of that because it felt like
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a lot of the criticism there was a wink and
a nod, criticism of he paints his nails, he carries
a purse, Now he's crying, and I felt it was
untoward what I do think would have been fair criticism,
and his fair criticism is whether it would have been
him crying or if he had flipped over the gatorade
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table and broke in a cooler. We want our quarterback
to be level headed, to be, you know, calm in
the stores, and I think that I do think that
is an.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Area he needs to improve. But I saw you yesterday, Colin.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
You know you sold just a few of your Caleb shares,
and let.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Me tell you, I had my brokers scoop him up.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I was like, you know what he's gonna He's gonna.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Sell the dip.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I'm gonna buy it all, take more of the Caleb
stock and so, and we'll see.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I think he's going.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I think Ben Johnson is trying, not in that drill,
but trying to throw a lot at him. Is fine
with him struggling, is fine with him being frustrated.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So we can build him back up. I still believe in.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
The transcendent talent, and I think Ben Johnson's a sharp coach, so.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I think it will work.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
But I just need him to be a little more
even keeled.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, So I'm gonna bounce around here, and I want
to get to this topic. I said that it's a
basketball topic. I didn't have a problem with Lebron, James
or Brouny because we all know the deal here.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
If they're on a yacht.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
In Santrope with Savannah and they don't make a press
conference and they do a video call, I'm okay with it.
Lebron is messy. He's Ronald though we're talking different ballgame here.
It's Brad Pitt. He can't make every you know, carpet.
I get it, but I said Luca being in the
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kind of shape he's in. It's year two and three Luca,
and last year I got lumpy Luca. This year I
get lean Luca and I think Lebron and maybe he
can handle it or maybe he can't. I don't want
Austin Reeves to have the ball. I don't want I
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think old KD. You could argue we'll play better with
lean Luca than lumpy Luca. Last year he couldn't beat
people off the dribble. He needed Lebron who still can't that.
I think the struggle isn't whether he's at a press conference.
Is that you're going to get now year two in
three Luca, where he not only beat people off the dribble,
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he finished dunking at the rim. That guy is back,
and I in his usage rate in those years was
the highest ever. Is that I think Lebron's numbers for
the first time in his career. You will watch Luke
and Lebron and there will be a noticeable gap in
performance and we've never seen it with Lebron.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
We've never seen it. But like there's listen, Lebron last
year got the sixth most MVP votes and the sixth
most all NBA First Team votes. He finished sixth in
both of those categories. He was, according to the voters,
the sixth best player in basketball last year. Let's assume
there's a little actrophy from there, going now into year
(09:54):
twenty three of his career and where he's going to
be turning forty one, and let say he goes from
that to ninth or tenth best in the league. Luca
is one of unequivocally the four best players in the league.
I think he's one of the three best players in
the league. I understand that it's a harder argument to
(10:17):
make now because of what Shaye accomplished, But I think
Luca is better than Shay. Everyone thought that nine months ago.
Now seemingly only I and maybe Zach Low think it.
But I think Luca is a top three player in
the league. He's supposed to be much better than whomever
his next best teammate. Is where I disagree with people
about how Lebron will take that. I think Lebron, for
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the better part of the last five years, had been
hoping that he would be able to make this transition
because of Anthony Davis. I think Lebron as we saw
in the Olympics, and once they got Luca last year,
relishes the opportunity to be able to give more of
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his energy on the defensive end because he doesn't have
to carry all of the load on the offensive end.
Lebron's issue has and I know this has nothing to
do with Luca or whether or not Luca has superseded
him in the NBA player hierarchy at this point in
his career. Lebron's singular issue is is my timeline and
(11:27):
the lakers timeline now totally misaligned or are they still
at least kind of together Where the Lakers, yes, obviously
they need to have a long term vision, but do
they also think we can win a championship right now
and we are going to go for that because this
might be my last year. And here is why I
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would argue for the Lakers they should unless they have
a secret handshake agreement that Giannis is signing there in
two years. The overwhelming odds that if we were to
in three years when this extension for Luca's over, say, hey,
who's the single best player Luca ever played with with
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the Lakers in his four years with the team. The
answer is likely going to be Lebron. When Lebron leaves,
the idea that they're going to get one of the
six players in the league or seven players in the
league better than Lebron as a running mate is unlikely.
So if I were the Lakers, I would treat this
season as we have Luca, who can win MVP. Lebron's
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coming off a great year. We filled out the roster
a bit, maybe add one more wing or maybe a
backup center, and why can't we go win four rounds?
That's what Lebron wants them to do. I don't blame
him for that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Okay, this may be below your standards of a topic choice,
but now I have had kind of a thing and
there's a lot of truth in it, although sometimes just
to be a not I go a little over the
top and a little fiat.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
So tell me we're doing the visor. Tell me we're
doing the visor right?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So I'm a houard.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, go ahead, Okay, So my thing is there are
dress codes in life. There are members clubs, there's golf courses,
there's events where you have to wear a collared shirt.
It's one thing to have a hat on backwards for
a wide receiver in an interview on the field to
be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. A backwards advisor.
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I had a general manager text me this morning. He goes,
you're going to get nothing but crap, and you are
on target. A general manager in the league said, don't
stop on this. Here's a guy that nobody believes can coach.
And he looks like the guy that when you call
one eight hundred junk, picks up the boxes and that's stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
From your garage.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's the Cowboys, it's Bank of America, it's the biggest
brand in the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
That look bothers me.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, done it does? I know it does soup things.
Just one clarification for the audience. I don't know who
you get on the other end of the line if
you call one eight hundred junk, but I wouldn't call it.
And that's not the number column men. But the point
is taken. So here's the thing, Colin. You have always
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been right about this, and deep down everyone knows it.
But because you are maybe a touch hyperbolic or theatrical,
people attack you. But we all we like, we all
agree that every single day we are all making choices
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with how we present ourselves to the world. We all
agree that Bill Belichick was the reason that his gruff,
cut up, dirty hoodie was considered cool was purely because
A he was an all time winner and b it
fit the theme that he.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Was trying to present.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Everyone knows that now does is a backwards hat across
the board necessarily as much of a faux pas as
you seem to.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Think it is?
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Probably not, But is a backwards visor a good look
on anyone?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I'm yet to see it.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
And does everyone, even the biggest critics of you on this,
does everyone agree? It's a matter of degree that we
are arguing about, because everyone agrees that if he came
to the press conference with mustard stained all over his
face and shirtless but said the exact same stuff, we'd
be like, yeah, the presentation's wrong.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
We all agree that there is a level.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Your level just happens to be an orientation of the
cap or visor in this case, which again I've never
cared about quite as much as you. But I also
think if there were a Hall of Fame on twenty
years sports topics, this is a first ballot entry. People
now see people wearing backwards caps and they're like, oh boy, Okay,
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we're gonna get four minute masterclass from Cowbird today.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I mean, it's kind of your legacy.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
It might be a little sad thing, but it's in
the first page of the obituary.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Tell you that much. It probably is.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I probably need a second good take after thirty years.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Final final thing on this is that the media does
this with politics and they do it with personalities. Is
that they pick people they like and they just decide,
we like this guy. There was a Stephen Colbert. The
media is like, he's a good guy. And my take
is the show is losing forty million. It went heavy political.
The demographics got sixty nine years old, is the average age.
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Nobody's going to do a forty million dollar losing show
on network TV in twenty twenty five, maybe thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
But the media decided they liked him, and that's fine.
But the media has decided they like Mike McDaniels. We're
three years in Brian Flores. The two years before Mike
McDaniels got there that a better winning percentage than the
last three years with him. And that's with the Patriots
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being a disaster and the Jets being a disaster that
the media has decided they didn't like Brian Flores, they
didn't like him, they like Mike McDaniel. If I had
an opening today, what are the Dolphins? I knew what
Flora is after about eight weeks, about week nine on
those Flores teams were nasty. It took him a while
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to develop it. I'm three years in with Mike McDaniel.
Is this a case of the media deciding he's smart,
we like him. Where's that they're there with the Dolphins?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Okay, so a couple things first, is I think this
is a take I agree with you on, unlike the
Colbert take, which I vehemently disagree with you on. And
we can save that for the next time I'm on
the podcast. Probably not the time and place for it
right now, but let's put a pin in that.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
We'll talk about it on the volume at some point.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
On Mike McDaniel, you are correct in that he reminds
a lot of sports media of themselves. Yes, Like, that's
just flatly true. Like the smaller Rye humor kind you
know it signed kind of very almost dark humor yesterday,
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analytical guy. I think there are a lot of people
covering football that see themselves in him, which then makes
you want to root for the guy to succeed you.
Then also, I do think objectively he is a very
smart and inventive offensive play designer, and I also think
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he got the absolute most out of Tua. I think
there are some things to like, but where I think
there is and whether this is not just about Mike McDaniel,
This is about how football is covered today, as analytics
and as a smarter people start having larger voices in
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the cover In covering a football, I think there is
a experience gap in how physically brutal the game is
and the type of people that actually play it at
the highest level, and therefore how hard it can be
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to actually lead that group of men, and the reason
and so it to me this is a cousin of
Sometimes I see some of the smartest people, supposedly smartest
people covering football, who I think truly believe the way
they present it. Every time you run the ball is
stupid because the EPA per play on a bad pass
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is higher than on a good run. And this, that
and all of it makes sense except for the fact
that there is.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
When for eighty years, every person.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
That's ever played the game has One of the first
things they have talked about is the importance of being
able to run and like the way it can you
can kind of sap the will of your opponent.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yes, in some way, you.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Just got to be like they probably know what they're talking.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
About, Like I haven't been out there, but like, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
It seems like if like you can make the d
tackle frustrated, there might be a value that doesn't show
up in the numbers.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
So that's a.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Long explanation to get to McDaniel, which is I think
there is some of the reason that the media loves
him might also be related to why his team pretty
clearly does not fear him the way they seem to
some of the more effective coaches. And I like McDaniel,
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but it seems like it's gotten away from him a
bit with the Dolphins. And I want to make this clear,
I'm not an anti analytics guy. I'm not an anti
kind of you know, smart learning the game thing, But
I think that there is an arrogance to the idea
that that's in some ways that football has talked about
when it comes to the actual physicality and toughness of
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the game that gets lost in some of the math.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
No, this is something I had an executive tell me
years ago, he said, And this was years and I
was at the other place, and he said, the hardest
part of about the draft is you just don't necessarily
know on tape. Am I drafting somebody who is willing
to impose his will and soul on another equally big
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strong man and ray Lewis could be smaller and slower.
You turn the lights off, put ray Lewis in a
room with any other player, Ray's coming out of the room.
And there is something there is value in the NFL
in just toughness.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Well, can I add to that real quick?
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I know we have to go, but I I have said,
and again I'm not an anti McDaniel guy, but I
think people should go back and watch the Chiefs Dolphins
playoff game two years ago. When the Chiefs were came
limping into the playoffs. They you know, I think, I'm
you know, they were It was when they had the
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first road games. Now, they of course ended up going
to and winning the Super Bowl because they're the Chiefs,
but they seem to be a vulnerable team.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
And that was the third coldest.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Game in NFL history, and Andy Reid came out, and he.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Looked like Andy Reid.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
He was dressed like Andy Reid is dressed, even though
by halftime he literally had icicles on his mustache. And
Mike McDaniel came out as bundled up as you've ever
seen a human being.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
And I said, I said on.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
The air that week, I was like, cause the Dolphins
had no interest in being there.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
They you know, they got annihilated from the very beginning.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
And I said, I can't prove it, but I feel
like the Chiefs saw their coach acting like this is
a normal game, normal business, and they were and they
internalized it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
And the Dolphins saw their.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Coach acting like this is the coldest I've ever been
in my entire life, and they internalize that, and I
just think they're a little I think football is so
different because it's so physically painful, it's so dangerous, it's
so brutal, that there is just a lot of magic
in the indefinable toughness stuff. And I think that's kind
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of what I'm getting at here.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
No, I'll close it on this years ago, I was
sitting watching it was Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in
a playoff game in Foxborough and Jim Nantz is doing
it and he's going to a commercial and they show
a pre game shot. We're coming back with a kickoff
next and they show Peyton Manning and he looks like
he is freezing. He's with a I think the cult
at this point. He looks like he's freezing, and I'm like,
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it's over. Brady's out there high five and Peyton Manny
who plays in the dome, and Indy looked and I thought, oh,
that's just terrible body language.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And I think we agree on that.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
All right, buddy, Absolutely great to see a Seacon.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
All right, we'll get to that Stephen Colbert thing on
a podcast near you. I swear we would. No. I
think there is something to be said is that I'm
not anti analytics ever, but I've said this before about
the NBA. Those analytics go out the window in the
playoffs because you just coach differently, and the NBA efficients
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officiates differently. Analytics in baseball it's built for the volume
of one hundred and sixty two games you go into the playoffs.
Dave Roberts is going to use his bullpen differently in
the playoffs than he does any other time of the year.
So all the analytics are built for volume of games.
But what happens when you get down to a five game,
seven game series. Well, in the NBA, the games are
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officiated differently. You don't get the whistle, you don't get
the regular season whistle. So I like analytics and football,
but a lot of it comes down to mental and
physical toughness. And I mean Philadelphia's best play is gaining
half a yard. All the analytics of football, Tom Brady
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was unstoppable on quarterback sneaks. I mean, if it was
fourth and one, Brady got the first down here, he
mastered it. So with all the analytics with football, sometimes
it's like Philly and Tom Brady have mastered getting a
yard in January and Buffalo, by the way, with Josh
Allen was.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
A circus trying to get a yard.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Sometimes the game is just that, the will and the
toughness to get a yard in lousy weather.
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Speaker 1 (26:33):
Joel Klaff Texas Ohio State. I still think I take
the points with Texas. Ohio State has the two best players.
They're at home. I think I would take the points
with Sark and arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
What I get with Ohio State at quarterback. I have
no ideas really talented, five star kid at That's a
tough opener.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
J Mac with the news, this is the line news,
all right, let's bust right into it.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
A team.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
I believe you're sleeping on the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I think this offense is going to go.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
To the moon.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
They just announced that Travis Hunter in the intent is
he's going to play both ways. On the first depth
chart Jacksonville released, Hunter was listed as a starting wide
receiver and a backup cornerback, which is pretty much what
we expected right Situationally, he would probably appear in some
dime packages.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Just too athletic to not get the ball to twelve
times A Yes, I want the ball in his hands.
I don't want him on an island and the team
decides not to throw to his side of the ball
and he's baking in the Jacksonville son and never touching
the football. I want him to touch the ball.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Sounds like Liam Cohen is going to scheme him up
a lot. And here is Cohen, the new head coach,
talking about his offensive and defensive Rookie of the Year candidate.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
These guys are challenging him every single day, like he
doesn't get a free pass because he was second overall pick.
In these traps Hunter like they are in his grill,
trying to jam them up, trying to hem them up,
trying to make it as hard as they can possibly
make it for him in a great way, like in
the most healthy way as possible, where they're going at
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it and chirping at each other.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And by the way.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You know what I like about Travis Hunter from what
you can tell, just a nice kid.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
He's a football kid. He's into it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Like considering how gifted he is, is he going to
be the Otani of football?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Well, I mean, you say what you want.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Let's say I don't get a lot of guys that
are like elite receivers and elite corners, like we went
we freaked out with Bo Jackson if Bo Jackson wasn't
playing linebacker, Like this kid has a chance to be
all time stuff here, like like not just receiver, partmer turner,
elite corner, Troll Bowl receiver. Like I don't think that.
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I mean it's it's usually the people I trust that
I've talked to about him, They're like, listen, this is
just different. He's going to be the best athlete in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Very quickly. Think about that.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
That's bold.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
I just want to reinforce so Liam Cohen very sharp
offensive mind. In Tampa, that offense was awesome. They had
Evans and Godwin. They've essentially recreated that with the young
kid Brian Thomas, who was awesome last year. Yeah, and
now Travis Hunter. And remember in Tampa he had a
flotilla of backs. He's got Etn and Bigsby. They were
a good combo last year. I'm just telling you, if
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Lawrence can stay healthy, this is an offense. It should
be a top ten unit in the league.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Gulling.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
I don't know about the defense holding off people, but
I think they will challenge Houston for second in the division.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And I can't wait to watch him.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
It's very rare.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Usually I really want to watch rookie quarterbacks. I can't
remember the last time there was a non quarterback, but
I really want to see play. I think he has
a chance to be an all time special kid.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
I know we don't want to relitigate Trevor Lawrence every
single year, but he came in as the next Andrew
Luck caliberquarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Hasn't totally lived up to it.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Has had a couple injuries, He's had like half a
dozen coaches colin. He's still a young quarterback with major upside.
I'm buying. I'm gobbling up all the Trevor Lawrence stock
I can find. Are you interested in.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That at all or not?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Really?
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Well?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I will say this, if you look at Indye, and
if you look at Indy, let's see the Texans have
an established quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Jacksonville two seasons.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I think if you look at Tennessee and Indy, I
don't know if they have the offensive firepower to just
keep up with Jacksonville and Houston. If Houston's healthy, if
Jacksonville's healthy, it's an offensive league, and I mean it's
probably the smart player to go. Jacksonville. Texans top two
in that division either order. They just they have more
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established quarterbacks and more dynamic players around the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
You have too many questions for the Colts. Let's move
to another team in the AFC. Hey Man, nobody loves
the Patriots like you.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
This is your team that you've stook a.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
You know, you've planted a flag in the New England Patriots.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You love them well.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
New head coach Mike Rabel has been putting a lot
of stuff on Drake May's plate, and May's been delivering.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Here's Rabel just so geeked about his quarterback. There's protections.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
I mean, there's when he sees something that he can
help or he sees it a lot better than I
think than some other players, or alignment or you know,
if you see something, say something and don't assume that
everybody's seen it the way that you're seeing it. I
see him get guys in the right formations, or tell
guys that, hey you're off the ball, you're on the ball,
or hey you're over here doing that quickly as before.
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Sometimes young quarterbacks they're just focused on the plate. They're
focused on the cadence and not focused on sideline the sideline,
and I think that that's starting to improve.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Mark now on ten wins, Buddy, Oh, that's an easy one.
So that's an easy one.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Let me let me challenge you on this Drake May stuff.
So I loved him coming out. I thought he'd be
better than Jayden Daniels. We call that a bit of
a whiss. I am curious who will have a better season,
Drake May or Caleb Williams in year two.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I think Caleb faces a tougher schedule. I think I
think Drake May as a proven coach, I think it's
an easier schedule, and I think.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I'll be honest with you, it's it's tough. I I
like Drake May. I thought I thought he was.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Kind of justin Herbert, just not as polished coming out
of college. If I had to bet my four one
k I would say that Drake May will be more
consistently good than Caleb the Klee will have more flash
plays and will be more spectacular. But if you're just
talking seventeen starts, who's more consistently b plus, I would
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say Drake May.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
So I am going to read off the wide receiver
depth chart for the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You're talking ten wins. Okay, Number one.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Is Stefan Diggs, who's coming off a major injury, getting
up there in age, and we know more.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Of a two now we.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Know his off field habits are questionable, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Number two to Mario Douglas. Okay. Number three on the
depth Dart mac Collins.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
That's the guy that Buffalo is like, hey man, you
occasionally showed up.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Thank you for your service. You're out.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Number four Kyle Williams, Kay, Shawn Boody, Kendrick Bourne Colin.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
That is a weak wide receiver group. One of the
weeks in the division.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I will say Kyle Williams is has a potential to
be very good. Kyle Williams could be one of those
guys that you look at and go, who's Kyle Williams
rookie out of Washington State. Right now, he says, a
really good player. I don't think they have a great
receiving corps, and I don't think they're a dominant team.
What I do think they are is ten and seven,
and they make it in as the Dolphins don't really
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have an identity and the Jets are once again in
a rebuild.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm not saying they are a twelve win team.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I don't think they're going to be a team that
wins playoff games, but I think they're gonna get in
as a wildcard team.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Listen, if Drake may takes that poopoo plotter of receivers
to the playoffs, he I mean, you might as well
just say he's the seventh best quarterback in the league.
Final story, Colin college Football, Your boy, Dabo Sweeney. I
feel like he has been irrelevant since you guys went
toe to toe a few years ago. He's talking tough
right now. Okay, he finally hits a transfer portal and
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now all of a sudden, he told a reporter, I've
had one undefeated team in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
We were the first fifteen oh.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
Team in the history of major college football, and I
think we're going to be the first sixteen and O
team this year.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
It's a race to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Now.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
Clemson is the class of the ACC, no doubt about it.
They do have an early land mine against LSU and
what should be a very good game on August thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
But after that, I mean, the ACC is largely a joke.
FSU's not very good this year.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
They're going to run through this schedule. Yeah, They're gonna
run through. He's got a great quarterback. I think they
returned like fifteen starters. They went to the portal a little.
I think they went and got like three guys. They
didn't really use the portal. He's a believer in build
it with high school football recruiting. They have great connections
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in that region for high school football. They are gonna
fly through this schedule. Yeah, this is going to be
This is going to be a top three or four team.
Like I like Ohio State, Texas, Oregon, they have Penn State.
They have much tougher schedules than klubs.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
Yeah, I'll just say I do like Dabo, Dabbo, Dabbo,
whatever you guys want to call him. I just what
he in recent years, he's been so stand office.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I've kind of been off him, but now.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
He's talking tough again because he's got a great hand.
Like I meanon Bruce Fellman was telling me this defensive.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Line is the best in the country.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Well and there he I think he needed to use
the portal more than he did. But in fairness, here's
teams that really used the portal a lot usc LSU
How did it work? Don't forget Indiana and s m
U Indiana, it doesn't matter in college football.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Is really awful.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Like Clemson recruits at a very high level high school football.
They get a lot of four star guys. And his
take is I'm not going to use it. Now he's
using it a little, and I don't think he used
it enough. But it's okay. If one program that's good
says we're not gonna you know, like for years, I mean,
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Kentucky led the world in won and done's they got
they got one title. Well, well, no, it's not bad,
but everybody knows Calipari was pushed out of Kentucky. Listen
he would Yeah, he was viewed as underachieving. So this
idea that the portal is this magic elixur for success, No.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Colorado LSU and the USC have lived on it. It's
not I think Dabo should have used it more. But
when you're Clems in a role, if Ohio State used
a portal for three players a year, they would still
be winning eleven games as long as the guys they
got were Caleb Downs level. But I think the portal
to me is a little overvalued at this point.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
With a little overvalue, the analogy I like is the
portal is like Major League Baseball salary cap. Right, you
can spend all you want. It's not going to guarantee success,
but it is certainly going to help your chances at
getting to the postseason if you spend more money in
Major League Baseball as opposed to the bottom feeders who
don't spend money and have no chance if you hit
the portal hard. Keep an eye on to my Texas
(37:50):
Tech red Raiders. I needed them to send me some
swag because I'm all in on them making the playoffs
this year.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Jmck with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping that.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
The herd line news is Jerry Jones negotiating with players
directly just really the smart way to do it.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
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Speaker 1 (38:23):
You know, it's interesting just to show you that the
nfl PA has never been terribly strong. Jerry Jones basically,
and he's done this before. He's trying to negotiate with
Micah Parsons directly. The NBA would never allow that, like
Baseball wouldn't allow that. The players' union's too strong. NBA
wouldn't allow it. But that you know, Jerry's done it before,
(38:45):
he's doing it again with Micah.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I think the whole thing's a bit of a mess.
I've said this.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I think the Cowboys have just gotten very insular. The
schedule is interesting for Dallas because there are a couple
of teams in this league that I think are in
big trouble. But they get soft landings early, like you know,
I mean, the Cowboys get the Giants at home early.
They get you know, the Jets, Carolina and the Bears early,
(39:10):
though those are all winnable games. I think by week seven,
here comes Washington, Denver, Philly, Kansas City, Detroit's I think
it's gonna get really ugly. I think I think up
to the by it'll it'll feel okay. Then I think
you're gonna start getting into week eleven and on and
and the I think they're gonna be in big trouble.
But the whole, the whole Michael Parsons thing. Again, like
(39:33):
as the league has gotten smarter and modernized, they're really
good teams.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Just get ahead of this stuff. They don't get trapped.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
The Rams and I and I don't say this just
because I spent nine years in LA. The Rams are
they don't get into these weird situations. They keep their players.
You know, Matt Stafford, We're gonna keep him at a camp.
He's getting bruised, and they just they they know how
to work all these situations where Dallas feels like they
inflame all of them. This Mica things should not He's
(40:05):
been fairly compensated. He's a great player, but I mean
he's one of the highest cap hits even this year,
he's gonna be one of the highest hits for his
position in the league without getting the big contract yet,
so he's been fairly compensated. Matt Hasselbeck yesterday on the
whole Micah Jerry contract on and off.
Speaker 10 (40:24):
Jerry Jones seems to like be fine with this kind
of conflict, fine with this kind of drama, but he
also doesn't seem like the kind of owner that wants
to get like pushed around publicly. So you know, there's
a part of me that says, hey, this is Michael Parsons.
Figure it out, closed the door, include the agent. Then
there's another part of me that says, hey, why don't
you just punt on this year anyway, go out and
get like the most amazing draft package for next year
(40:48):
and really start focusing this team on next year, because
I really don't know that you can compete with Philly
and that you can compete really with Washington. And then
the rest of the NFC.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Well, I mean, the Cowboys have the longest NFC championship
game drought. It's going to turn thirty years this year,
and they're not going to make the NFC Championship this year.
But you can blame a lot of factors, and you know,
I can just blame Jerry Jones, we can all blame Dak,
but it really comes down to this, how.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Do you draft?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I mean, the reason the Rams in Philadelphia, the Lions,
and the Ravens, you know are consistently good in Buffalo
is they mostly draft well and Belichick at the end
of New England last seven years they drafted poorly. Brady
saw it and left. I stn't think Dallas drafts consistently
at a high level. And a lot of that is
Jerry views himself as a GM and he's an owner.
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