August 16, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin gives you his 5 most interesting QBs in the NFL heading into the season.
He talks to Hall of Famer Jimmy Johnson about the Cowboys and the various contract issues they are facing with CeeDee Lamb's hold out and Dak Prescott's comments about getting a new deal
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
However you may be listening, Thank you for making us
part of your day. Five minutes Jimmy Johnson or less,
we'll stop by, so j Mac. I do like watching
some starters play a little bit in the preseason. Drake
May obviously last night look pretty good. All these rookie
quarterbacks have at least had one series or two where
you're like pretty good. So that's exciting. Now the twenty
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twenty draft two a hit, Burrough hit, Herbert hit, Jordan
Love eventually hit a Jalen hurt second ryt. Five guys
hit in the twenty twenty draft. Everybody knows about the
Elway Marino Jim Kelly draft ago, then there was the
big Ben Eli Manning Philip Rivers draft. The twenty twenty
draft right now got five hits. Five guys got a
second contract. So this, it's very encouraging. It's very encouraging.
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Everybody's look nobody's looked overwhelmed. And Drake's may is not
working with much in New England. But I was thinking
this morning, there's five quarterbacks in this league stories that
I'm really really interested in just as a consumer. I'm
a fan now number one my five most interesting quarterbacks.
The Caleb Williams thing is fascinating. He's polarizing. The Bears
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have a coach on the hot seat. The Bears are
the only NFL franchise that's never had a four thousand
yard passer. They've done defense well a lot of years.
Could this kid be there, Jordan? Could he be the
guy that literally changes the franchise? He is really talented.
I don't know the answer. I think he's gonna be productive.
I don't know if he wins a lot of games
this year. The schedule's pretty tough. The Packers, Lions, Vikings
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all capable. This kid will get me to the one
o'clock window on fall. Second A is Aaron Rodgers. This
season could help kind of cement his career. We know
he's talented, but little prickly calling out his coach occasionally.
Don't love that, mister little Lota in Egypt, don't love it.
Not the end of the world. Robert solid Nat Hackett
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on the hot seat. There's a lot of combustible stuff
going on on crossing my fingers. He stays upright. They're
rebuilding the offensive line with potentially a rookie getting big snaps.
Can Elijah Vera Tucker stay healthy? He needs protection erins
at too. Listen. I'd put Patrick Mahomes going to try
to do something Tom Brady and Joe Montana couldn't do,
win a third strate Super Bowl. It's been a very
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noisy offseason. I still think their wide receiver group is
a bunch of question marks and not a lot of answers.
But if anybody can do it, it's him. Can he
become the first ever back to back to back Super
Bowl winning quarterback? Certainly got the talent number four justin
Herbert don't have a playoff win, but damn he's good
Now he finally gets an elite coach. He's out of
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a walking boot. Reportedly this morning he's ready to roll.
They don't have much at wide receiver. They're hoping that
kid out of Georgia's second rounder can work. He's one
of these kids. He was sensational as a rookie, had
Shane Steichen, and we're just kind of waiting for him
to pop. He's the last young quarterback that we all
think is good and we're waiting for stuff beyond stats.
He'd be number four and number five the mercurial Russell Wilson.
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I don't know what to make of it. He literally
was so good in Seattle. He got guys like Johnny
Manzel Baker Mayfield drafted, and I don't know what's happened
to his career. He got teammates calling him out, Sean
Payton and Pete Carroll dumped him. It's a weird career,
but I'm really excited to watch it now. There is
an honorable mention. I banged the table in the morning
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meeting to get him in the top five. The staff,
I get no support at all from the staff. I
think Sam Darnold is fascinating on his fourth team, trying
to rest direct his career, but the staff would not.
The staff would not allow me to put him in
the top five. I'm rooting for Sammy. I thought he
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was going to be a star. What do I know,
here's somebody that does no stuff. Jimmy Johnson. The Hall
of Famers, super Bowl rings, college national championships. You know,
as I do that list, the erring thing is fascinating.
So he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. Nobody doubts
that he's smart. But I got to tell every time
he's on in front of the microphone, it's like he's
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just poking people. He's poking the GM, he's poking he's
poking the media. It's a little exhausting as a consumer
of it. Would it drive you nuts as a coach
that he just doesn't walk up there say vanilla stuff
like Eli Manning and go sit down? What do you
make of it?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I'm interested in what he has to say, and you
probably would like it as well if he had gone
to USC.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Said he didn't go to USC.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, those cow guys. I got no time for catcle.
I want to talk a little bit about you and
Jerry are are finally back to a good space. But Jimmy,
I don't love the way he handles these stars. To me,
if you draft a guy in the first round and
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he hits and he's in a valuable position. Just get
the contract done, get it out of the news cycle.
I feel like Jerry's trying to get squeeze extra juice
out of it to get free publicity. I don't like it.
Just sign Seed Lamb. What do you make of the
way they handle it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well, he's really in a bind. You know, Jerry's in
a bond with these contracts. He's got three players that
want to be the highest play pay player at their position,
and you know, he made a mistake by not resigning
them earlier than what he's been doing right now. The
other thing is he's got the quarterback situation with Dak Prescott,
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and I think the entire league's got a problem here
because if you don't have a quality quarterback, you're.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Not gonna win, right.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Everybody understands that. But the only thing is good quarterbacks
are demanding great money. Yes, and they're not great quarterbacks,
they're not great players, but because their contract is up,
they're going to be the highest paid player at that position.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And this is kind.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Of escalated here for the last couple of years because
every owner is desperate and they understand they got to
have a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
They've got to have a quality quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And the quarterback money is taking too big a piece
of the pie as far as the salary cap.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So the NFL changed rules through your career. They're constantly tweaking.
They have a new kickoff now it looks weird. They
should probably just take the UFL version, but they probably
have too much ego and pride to just steal theirs.
It's probably better.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I'm watching it and I'm like, well, why not just
kick it out of the end zone. I don't want
anybody hurt and I don't want to what's the point.
So I don't think.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I love it? Well, I hate it.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, I do love it because before it was a
non play. Just kick it out of the end zone
and then put the ball, you know, there at the
line of scrimmage and go about your business. But I
think there's some strategy involved. Now, if you want to
play field position, you kick the ball to about the ten.
If you've got a good coverage unit and they don't
have an outstanding returner, you know you're going to get
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good field position. They're glably get a penalty on that
same return and really back them up. Now, if you're
protecting a lead or you're afraid of their return man,
or you don't have a good coverage.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Unit, you kick it out of the back of the
end zone. You know they're towards the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
If you've got the lead and you want to just
win the game, just kick it out of the endine
give them the ball on the thirty no, no problem.
But if you're fighting for field position, kick it to
the ten cover and then that way you're going to
get better field position.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The You know, it's different today, Jimmy, these kids that
come into the NFL at quarterback seven on seven camps,
coaching is better in high school and college. I want
to see him play. I'm a little less likely to
sit him, although I think Drake may probably needs to.
But do you think in your time it was different.
Some guys had started two three years in college. They
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didn't have camps, they didn't have ten thousand throws. If
you were coaching in the NFL today, would you be
more demanding on your rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, well, of course I was demanding from day one.
I've put eightman in there and he got sacked nine
times by Philadelphia and nearly got killed. But anyway, I
think because of the salary camp, and because the quarterbacks
are better prepared you coming into professional football, they're more
ready to play. You look at Caleb Williams, I mean
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he's lighting enough. Of course, he was an outstanding player
right off the bat. You know, I love watching him play. Uh,
he's ready to go out there and win games. And
I think he will win games because they got a
pretty good defense and a decent football team. You look
at Daniels, I think he is a tremendous athlete and
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I'm anxious to see him play.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
But I don't know how good a football team they've got.
But you're right, quarterbacks, you know, rookies now, they don't sit.
You know, if they're good enough, put him out there
and let him play.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So did you you made Troy Aikman play? But did
you unveil the playbook in stages or did you treat
him like he'd been in the league twelve years?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Please, I'd only been in the league for two years.
I would just learn the playbook myself.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It was a matter of being Troy kind of grew
up together.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, no, I get that. So when you so here
we go into this season, the season is now longer.
There's there's speculation it's going to be an eighteen game season.
So you know, it's funny Belichick. Nobody now plays starters
in the preseason. Once McVeigh didn't, people have bailed. I
look at September football, and I don't know what I'm seeing.
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Are you comfortable with the current trend of just not
playing starters, especially older guys in the preseason and just
doing harder practices.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And yeah, they're getting their physical work with some of
the scrimmages they have against some teams.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
But I did a study all back a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
We were looking at all the injuries that happened early
in the season, and you know, I did a poll
with about three fourths of the trainers in the league,
and every trainer to a person said, because they don't
have a lot of physical work in the training camp
in the early part, that's why they're seeing so many injuries,
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a lot of self tissue injuries, et cetera. Yeah, you've
got to have full speed physical work, especially for your
offensive line to kind of get in coordination.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And also, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Players got to be able to take a hit, they
got to know how to follow, they know how to
be in Apollo. You know they need physical work to
prevent some of these injuries, but that's one one reason
you see so many injuries in the early part of
the season.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Jimmy Johnson, the Hall of Famer. One of the things
that's happened over the last ten years is the rules
have pivoted significantly to the offense's favor. It's just easier
as an offensive coach can't grab corners. There's just it's
just it's hard. As a defensive coach, you feel like
you're almost working against the system. Everything's built for Andy
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Reid right in McVeigh and all that. So and I
look at that, and I think we also have something
going on. We know that receivers are more valuable now,
but it does feel, Jimmy a little bit like a
wide receiver economic bubble is there is no proof that
superstar number one receivers win trophies. There is roof that
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a deep receiving corps does. I'm seeing some of these salaries.
I like Brandon Ayyuk. I love Trent Williams, the left tackle.
That's who I love, right, What do you make of
some of these salaries. I'm not saying they're not great. Players,
but I need a quarterback, a left tackle on an
edge rusher. What do you make of the quarterback? The
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receiver market has exploded in the last three years.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, I agree with you, you know, for the most part.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
You know, Colin, I think you know, by far, the
quarterback's most.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Important player on your team, and then maybe the backup
quarterback right after that.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But then, but your offensive line. You've mentioned Trent Williams,
but I think having a solid offensive line.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
And don't don't overlook this an offensive line coach. So
sometimes an offensive line.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Coach can take pretty good players and make them a
solid unit. So the offensive line coach, the offensive line,
the quarterbacks, and then you can find receivers. Now, obviously
everybody's not gonna be tyrenk Hill, you know, but there's
some quality receivers out there and you find them.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
There's a lot of them coming out of college.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, but that's some of the most important parts of
your football team. And you could win and that way,
have a solid defense, and you can win a lot
of games with that quarterback and some a group of
receivers and a solid offensive line.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Finally, you were not on the hot seat much as
a coach. I think Matt eber Flus is gonna feel
it in September. I think Mike McCarthy is our friend.
Dave wanstat Oas says, you can lose games, you lose
three in a row, you lose a locker room. And
so my take is, get ceedee Lamb into camp here
because this offense, it doesn't have a lot of juice
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after CD you tell me for an eber Flus or
McCarthy and those Dennis Allen, could you sense and again,
you weren't on the hot seat much, but does the
temperature in the locker room change when you go into
it two game losing streak? Could you sense it as
a coach?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I was on the hot seat after I won two
Super Bowls, So it's a little bit different now. As
far as McCarthy, I think this. You're in the last
year of your contract. Win big and you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Get a huge contract, right then.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You have all the leverage, you know, so you know
people say, well, he's under pressure. Well, hey, every coach
is under pressure every year, every coach in the league.
But it doesn't bother me being in the last year
of the contract because You've got to win regardless what
the contract is. You ain't paid plenty of money, you
got plenty of money in the bank, but win big
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and you will demand a huge, huge contract.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, is there is there a single team? We all
know who's good in this league? Did t I love
Detroit's roster, I love their front office. I've always thought
goff is underrated, best O line in the sport. But
you know, Jimmy, it is hard to break through. It
a losing culture. You start, you know, you go on
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a losing street you have. You know, the Rams are
getting the super bowls now Kansas City. They think they're
gonna win in close games. Detroit fascinates me. When you
were losing in Dallas early, how do you break that cycle?
Because you took over a cowboy team that was losing
with coach Landry, you lost early? How do you break
that cycle before you've broken through and won a trophy?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The same way Dan Campbell's doing it there in Detroit.
Work and being a physical football team. That's what breaks
it because if you work them hard enough, they get
to believe in that they're going to win, so they
that that instills the confidence that they're going to win,
so hard work and being.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
A physical football team. If you're not a physical football team,
you're not really sure if you're going to win or not. Yeah,
you got to get some lucky breaks.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
But if you're a physical football team, you go into
the contest saying, hey, we're fixing.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great point. All Right, you already
got you already did your fishing, so I don't feel
as guilty. You'll be back on the boat on Monday.
You look great, as Owa's coach is great having you.
Thank you all right, enjoyed it all right. Hall of Famer,
Fox Sports legend, Jimmy Johnson, you know that that is
a great point. It doesn't matter if for the UFC
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or football. If you're a physical team and believe you
can physically overpower another man, that's your confidence. If you're
a tricky, finesse clever, you still know you can get
punched in the mouth. It all starts with physicality. We
can out wrestle them. I'll dictate the wrestling match, and
that's what That's what Detroit has up front. They'll win
their old lines better than your D line, and we're
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gonna win that matchup. That's a great point that that
physicality in it can be maybe not in golf, but
maybe it is off the te. But the physicality is
where the confidence comes from. I can out wrestle you,
I can pin you, I can push you around. That's
where it all starts.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
And that's I think why we have had some good
fortunes with gambling because we look at offensive lines. When
you see the Dolphins offensive line right now in the preseason,
look at the Dolphins offensive line disaster. This arm set
situation is not good. And it's like people think golf this,
Oh yeah, Tyreek Hill and Waddle, they're gonna be good.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Just be careful. The offensive line is everything.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You can't win a World Series with a bad back end.
You can't have a bad bullpen. That's the Yankees biggest issue.
And you cannot win a Super Bowl with a terrible
old line. I don't think you can get to a
super Bowl with well. Cincinnati did, but Mahomes has only
been embarrassed once in his career. He was missing both tackles,
he had all the other players. You cannot win a
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super Bowl with the back.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
The Bengals when they got to the Super Bowl, I'm
almost certain that the Chiefs won the coin toss in
overtime and had the ball first.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
They were and that was before the new rule.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
So Chiefs should have just gone down and scored Mahomes
through the deep ball that was picked. So they probably
Bengals should not have even been there. Good fortune by
the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Now you're taking something away from Cincinnati. Why don't we
give Cincinnati love, not take away. I've given Cincinnati a.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Lot of love, just not on that particular topic.
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Speaker 4 (18:32):
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Speaker 6 (18:38):
Well, let's go to the New York Jets Aaron Rodgers
and Garrett Wilson. Remember they had that weird conversation recently
on the sideline.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
People couldn't tell if they were arguing or upset.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Well, this duo has the potential to be one of
the best in the NFL, regardless of what happens. In
late July early August, here's Wilson with some high praise
for his quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
For me, it feels like pure football. I don't know,
I always I feel like I said this one time before.
It feels like I'm a kidding in and I can
kind of believe what I see. It's the best way to.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Put it from me.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
It's always been a thinking game when you play receiver,
and there's these adjustments within plays, within routes, and based
on the quarterback, you know you can either do them
or you can't. But uh, with Aaron, you know everything's
everything's you can do it right, and uh, that's how
football should be played when you can do it.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
He's a good one, very good one. Cross your fingers
on his Hell what was that?
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Where's the love for Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I think he's really good. Good it really good. He's
a very good player. Thirteenth, fourteenth best receiver.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
No, no, no, come on thirteenth or four.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
You don't have the top ten. No, I think he's
close to like seven, eight. Okay, Well, I mean listen,
he had no quarterback last year and put up monster
numbers that he was the only target. So that part
of that's just if Fante Adams was the only target
with the Raiders, Garret wilsonante him just top three or four.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know, by the way, are you sure about that,
Garrett Wilson, When I say top twelve or thirteen, you
got a lave a. You got a lot of You
got a lot of these got young Brandon I. They're
all great. It's you're you're asking me to separate inches.
They're all excellent.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
That's what we do as experts. You have to separate
meaning lists. It's the people crave giving them.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
What they want.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
They get enough lists, scale back on the list, fewer lists.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Okay, you heard that one. Next up, Oh boy, Kansas
City Chiefs. Everybody loves them.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
But guess what Andy Reid wanted to play his guys
in Hollywood. Brown got hurt on the first play of
last week's preseason game.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Now the shoulder injury isn't serious. He could maybe still
play in Week one.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
I'm gonna go ahead and guess he will not.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Here's Patrick Mahomes addressing the veteran's injury and what it
means to the team.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
I guess we're lucky that it wasn't as bad as
it could have been. No, he's in good spitch, he's
doing well. Obviously we lose a little bit of that
veteran type receiver in that room. I mean, we have
other guys that can kind of replace a little bit,
but to have that much talent, I've a good understanding
what I want. But he's in the room. I think
that's what's awesome is he's talking to those guys and
everything like that, and so hopefully we're getting them back
sooner rather than later. But we got to keep pushing
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those young guys that to keep getting better and better
every day.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, they'll be fine. You know. Not that I'm rooting
against him, because I always root for Andy Reid. I
like Kansas City a lot. But if I said to.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
You, what's what's the best story that wins, what's the
best story for us as broadcasters winning the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Because I'm gonna throw one at you. Green Bay Packers,
Jordan Love replaces Aaron Rodgers. He stumbles around. I mean,
I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs. Maybe and
literally rising from the ashes like the playoffs, like McVeigh Shanahan,
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the Lions, Green Bay Packers with all super young and
also not only do they win, but we ask ourselves,
they're not paying anybody outside of Jordan Love. Could we
have a dynasty here? We love dynasty.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
I'm gonna call twenty second time out.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Are you saying best for this show or this network.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Saying best for the league?
Speaker 7 (22:20):
For the league?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
The young.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It's got a Seahawk feel to it. You have this
young quarterback, this successful coach without a Super Bowl Pete
Carroll leafleuor pre Super Bowl, this young quarterback that had
doubters and Russell Wilson, why do you have to transferler
and call you too small? Jordan Love sat for three
years Utah State, and that young Seahawks team goes in
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and blasts Denver, and they go in and blast Kansas
City or Cincinnati, and we're like, we have ourselves a dynasty.
Green Bay winning is really good for the league. If
you have an Aaron Rodgers Jordan Love component, you have
a do we have a dynasty component? You have the
next superstar quarterback component? That's a great and by the way,
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great brand.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
How many pieces of gum did you pop during that
commercial break? I mean that is Colin Listen. I like
the green where you're going.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
But that's the wrong shade of green. The better story
is Aaron Rodgers and the Jets no playoff, longest drought
in pro sports, and if they were to go up
and win the Super Bowl, that is.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
The best story. She's going for the three feet.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I think it's a dysfunctional New York team winning. Yeah,
and Rogers pulls them out about a functional small town
America team winning. Where we did you do a segment
earlier about how the NBA has Lebron and Curry all
over TV.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
The public likes known quantities. They love their Aaron Rodgers
is so pullarizing.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The NFL doesn't need that. Baseball needs the Dodgers Yankees
in a World Series. College football Ohio State in the Natty.
That's good news for everybody. NFL Jacksonville got to an
AFC championship.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
In the ratings for I think Jets and Rodgers would
pull a more interest than Jordan Love and the Packers.
I mean, every Rodgers is polarizing. That's what you want, right.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Jordan Loves is easy to root all in on this team.
That team.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
I think it's time to start fading the Packers based
on your lust for them. I thought you were Jared
Goff is gonna be like, I'm breaking up with you, coward.
You use too much love for also love.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Also, Detroit probably wins the division because of their own line,
so green Bay has to go through the wild card,
they have to go on the road. That's such an
easy story to put your arms around.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
All right, So what are your other ones? So it's
Chiefs and Packers. Those are the two best stories.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Now I'm just saying the Packers winning the Super Bowl
gives us like seven stories. I mean, I literally, do
we have a dynaste? Then Jordan loves the next Superstar?
Oh my god, Aaron Rodgers didn't matter. They were better
without it.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Can I give you seven quick ones off the top
of my head?
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Dallas cow Boys obviously the obvious boring. They've been to
the conference champions county years.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Let's count teams that have a realistic check.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
The Packers have been to the Super Bowl with Farvin
Rodgers no stop. But the Detroit Lions. I mean that
that would be a.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Number two clients will be number two, number two forty
nine Ers, cost a hand finally breaking through.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
That's always a bridemaid, never the bride. That's three New
York Jets, obviously. Then Josh Allen finally breaking through Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
That's good after moving off digs all behind Green Bay.
But good, Alright, I can't, I can't.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
I'm tried.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I tried, audience, the audience that convince him out of
the Packers.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I tried.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Final story, Colin is.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Big return tonight for Daniel Jones. He is playing in
his first game since suffering the torn acl in Week
nine last year. Giants take on the Texans. Sorry, that's
tomorrow night. Tomorrow Night, Giants, Texans, and the embattled QB.
Spoke about his mindset in his return.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Hm, I don't think I'll be thinking about my knee much.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
I think I've tested it, you know, I've tested it
and practice tested it in my you know, rehab and
workouts and feel like it's in a good place.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
So yeah, I mean I think, uh, you know, I'm
confident my.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Knee will be be ready to go. Won't be something
I'm thinking about. So remember when Andy Dalton had some
early success and everybody was like Cincinnati, he got no
playoffs and then just to get a little edgier, spiked
his hair a little bit, had a go tea.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
That did not happen.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That happened. Remember when Tiger did the go tea when
he got into trouble, Tiger Andy Dalton did a go tea.
Do you notice Daniel Jones, he was this like nice
duke kid. Look at him now, facial hair will chip
on his shoulder, swears occasionally, if you read the comments,
chip on his shoulder or boulder on his shoulder. I'm
just saying Daniel's gotten a lot of crap. He's rightfully
(26:57):
to He's won a playoff game. I'm just saying Andy
Dalton got a lot of craft the red rifle, and
he heard people like rolling their eyes and Ru came
in with a little gel in the hair and a
little goa tee, a little edge to get more respect.
Daniel Jones, that is not by coincidence. He's got a
(27:19):
little he's got a little anger. Look at the last
couple of times I've heard him talk. You got a
little chip on his shoulder. Now he's tired of getting
beat up by everybody. He watched that HBO Max and
the front office is trying to move up and get
him another quarterback. He's pissed. I kind of like this,
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
You don't have to take that be if you were
openly championing, like bringing in some other replacements.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
How do you know I'm not. I keep going to
lunches right after the show. I'm almost certain you're not
given how well the show's doing. But let me ask,
where's Daniel Jones a backup quarterback next season? Because we
know he's not gonna be starting to be giants. I
think I think people have just dumped on this guy
so long, and there's nobody that likes him, even his
own team. On HBO Max. That was brutal. That was
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that was way's been brutal. Well, he'd been hurt. The
resurrection of Daniel.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Jones, Rising from the ashes, Daniel Jones Vanilla Vick.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I just have a feeling that we have just crapped
on this kid, and it wears on you that stuff
does social media, he's like a meme and I think
he's gonna be I.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Just delete the app from your phone, Daniel.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Just get off TikTok, get off Twitter all that.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I can't stop loving TikTok. I got my comedians. I
go to every day, so can you.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
You should do me during the commercial break, look at
your phone and see how long you were on TikTok yesterday.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
You could do that, you know, I'm just curious. You
think it's over an hour.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I had probably fifteen minutes. Oh that's not batter Oh no, no,
I put the phone down. I do not take the
phone to dinner. I do not.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Impressive covert.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
By the way, this makes me. I was at the
gym yesterday. Okay, as a man, I'm just gonna speak
to man. If you can't go forty five minutes not
on your phone, don't go to the club home in
your couch. It's embarrassing how many guys take their phone
working out with them man, vanity searches. What are people
(29:09):
saying about me?
Speaker 7 (29:11):
Some of us take video of our workouts and posting.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Grossughing you don't follow me on ig I occasionally toss
that in there that people love it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
The people, yeah, not your bosses.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
I don't think they care. Will love it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You go lift weights, it's fifty minutes. Drop your phones.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
But if you go to the gym and you don't
document it, did you really go to the gym.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
O J.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
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Herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
This is yesterday. I'm just like, is everybody in the
gym on their phone? Can't you just do I'm throwing
I'm throwing letter around. I mean it's I'm throwing iron
all over the gym and then or I want to
go sit down on something like, hey, I want to
do this and just are you doing it or not?
What are you doing? Are you? Are you retweeting your
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Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Very exciting. Clarence Hill covers the Cowboys gonna be in
studio last hour, so we're gonna have everything. There's been
these reports that the crowds have been down at Cowboys camp. Well,
they didn't make any big splashy hires in their draft.
There's a lot of offensive linemen and it wasn't It's
okay before we get h This just came down Diana
(31:53):
Russini saying that Bownicks bo Nix is tearing it up
at Broncos camp. Just had a dagger on third and
ten to Courtland Sutton. Bonix's arm strength and his mobility
is way better than people think. I don't know why
this is, but the guy's cut. If you're with him
in personally, he's an athlete, he's ripped and I think
(32:15):
he throws a much better ball than people think that
this idea that he's small. Now, I don't think he
throws a great deep ball. But watch him move, watch
him move out of the pocket. Dude can move, and
he's got he got an arm. And there was that
throw at the against the Colts down on the goal line,
and you know, you think that's just an easy throw.
If it was justin fields, would still be in Chicago.
(32:36):
These are hard, quick throws. I think the guy's got
a better arm and moves better than people think, and
he is tearing it up. This is my this is
my best future bet in the NFL. Denver over unders
five and a half wins. I don't buy it. I
think their personnel is eight to nine. I think the
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Chargers are going to struggle to score points at times.
That'll give Denver a fighting chance they'll beat the Raiders twice.
Kansas City is not a high powered offense with this
receiving core mess, so Kansas City keeps you in games.
They're not the Kansas City of four years ago, so
I think they're gonna win some division games. And apparently
bo next today crushing it. So this is interesting. Not
(33:21):
all change is good, but I like change, especially when
something's broken. So baseball went to the pitch clock. You know,
it worked, It makes the game faster. One of the
issues the sport has, it's a really boring trend, is
that starting pitchers don't go many innings and bullpens dominate
the product. It's boring. Starting pitchers used to be off
(33:44):
in the face of the sport, like now they're like
ancillary bullpen guys. So they're thinking about creating a six
inning minimum for starting pitchers. So now there are exceptions,
and there should be. If he's already got one hundred pitch,
if he's given up four or more earned runs, you
(34:04):
know he's getting shelled, okay, or he's pitched one hundred pitches,
or there's an injury. But listen, bullpens dominating is bad
for the sport. And I do think analytics has hurt
baseball turns out watching math. Isn't that fun? Right? Players
(34:26):
need to be stars, not the formula. We don't need
to talk about exit v low and launch angle. Baseball
was always nerdy enough, like can we stop? And I
think I think we want our athletes to be rock stars.
Let them be rock stars. I mean, Nike came out
with a new ad campaign recently. I loved it. It's bold,
(34:47):
it's gritty, it's alpha, it's you're a loser, we're winners.
I loved it. No politics, not leaning into everybody gets
a ribbon. No, there's and losers. And that's why sports
has standings. I remember this with Caitlin Clark. The media
too often is protective when they don't need to be.
(35:10):
So Caitlin Clark comes into the WNBA and the games
are chippy, and I'm like, yeah, basketball is chippy, women's
and men's. Stop protecting women's basketball players. You go, girl,
throw a punch. Do what you gotta do. That's AAU,
it's college, it's pro, it's WNBA, it's European Basketball's chippy.
Go to the YMCA. Guys get in fights like you go,
(35:34):
Angel Reese. You gotta push somebody go for it. Stop
coddling and babying, and so the same in baseball. Now
it's very precious. The pitcher can't throw this many innings.
It's not high school. If a guy's six three and
a half two forty five, Paul Skeins, let him go.
(35:54):
By the way, they keep limiting pitching pitchers starting pitchers,
is it me or they're more injuries than ever. Everybody's
always hurt, everybody's always on the ir Just let guys pitch.
So I like this. I mean, the cigarettes that baseball
players used to smoke lasts longer than their outings. Now
(36:18):
let guys pitch. Let them go. You know, the guys
that I really love are Adam Wainwright, Justin Berlander. They're
beginning guys in their prime, and they've lasted forever. They
lasted forever. Let Paul Skeines go eight every time. So
I like it. So we had Jimmy Johnson earlier. We
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talked about and Clarence Hill's coming last hour and we're
gonna sit down and talk about all these cowboy issues.
I am not a fan of pushing. If you know
you like something, just pay for it. It's not gonna
get cheaper over time, you can. You know, It's like,
if you like a house, it, don't wait for the
(37:01):
perfect interest rate. If you can afford it, buy it,
because either somebody else gonna buy it, the interest rate
might not come down. You can always refinance a home,
but there's only so many great school districts, and in
big cities especially, there's only so many great school districts
and so much beachfront property. If you like it, buy it,
you can readjust you know, you can always refinance as
(37:22):
many times you have to. So I don't like the
whole ced lampting. You like him, he's great, Sign him,
let's go, let's get it done. Get him in camp.
And Jimmy Johnson talked about that earlier.
Speaker 10 (37:33):
He's really in a buying you know, Jerry's in a
bind with these contracts. He's got three players that want
to be the highest play pay player at their position.
The other thing is he's got the quarterbacks that you
were with Dak Prescott. And I think the entire league's
got a problem here because if you don't have a
quality quarterback, you're not gonna win. Everybody understands that. But
(37:53):
the only thing is good quarterbacks are demanding great money
and they're not great quarterbacks. And this is kind of
escalated here for the last couple of years because every
owner is desperate and they understand they've got to have
a quarterback. They've got to have a quality quarterback, and
the quarterback money has taken too big a piece of
(38:14):
the pie as far as the salary cap.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
That's why I will defend the Packers drafting quarterbacks or
the Atlanta Falcons taking two. The reason the Steelers are
the Steelers because they were afraid of offending Big Ben
and drafting a quarterback. He didn't even like Mason Rudolph
as a threat. Mason Rudolph was never going to be
the next Big Ben or Bradshaw. He's fine, okay. So
(38:36):
it's like just draft quarterbacks and you know, like it
may offend Dak Okay, all right, Decks, he's grown up.
He can handle it. So I think when you never
forget this last year, seven teams, seven teams were almost
unwatchable offensively. They could have used Michael Pennix or Kirk
Cousins are both. So I do think Jimmy, I think
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Dallas is in a weird spot where they I mean
eight they will not be. I think they're a bottom
five scoring team without Ceedee Lamb. You've got to get
him in. They can still generate somewhat of a pass
rush without Micah, they can't score with that CD. They're
running back room. They're still kind of choppy on the
old line tight end. They're good. I don't think they're special.
They gotta have CD Lamb in. You gotta just pay them,
(39:22):
and you drafted him. In terms of Mike McCarthy, another
reason to have ceed Lamb. Mike McCarthy's on the hot seat.
You can lose games. You lose three in a row.
Go look at Dallas's early schedule. Five road games first
eight weeks. That's not losing games. You could lose the
locker room and Jimmy talked about Mike being on the
hot seat.
Speaker 10 (39:43):
As far as McCarthy, I think this, you're in the
last year in your contract. Win big and you're going
to get a huge contract. Then you have all the leverage.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (39:55):
So you know, people say, well, he's under pressure, Well, hey,
every coach is under presher every year, every coach in
the league.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
It doesn't bother me.
Speaker 10 (40:03):
Being in the last year of the contract because you
got to win regardless of what the contract is.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
You didn't fake plenty of money.
Speaker 10 (40:09):
You got plenty of money in the back. But win
big and you will demand a huge, huge contract.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Here are the coaches, and there's very few that are
on no hot seat, like like the most secure coaches.
Andy Reid won, McVeigh two, Matt Lafleur three, Shanahan. Shanahan
has to win a playoff game.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
By the way, McCarthy won twelve games each of the
last three years and he's on the hot seat.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, he's had some real snaffoos, Layton games, situational stuff.
Andy Reid got run out of Philly because of that.
It wasn't because he couldn't coach. Was there a decade more?
I think Andy Reid won total security. Sean McVay, he
he can draft who he wants. Jim Harbor, well that
all the first year guys, that doesn't count. Okay, but
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there's I'll say this again, I think Nick Sirianni's seat
is hotter than McCarthy because his quarterback we're reading from reports,
I'm not sure he trusts the coach. Dak and McCarthy
seem to get along fine. From what I can tell
Clarence Hill will know the truth. But I think Dak
and McCarthy they get along fine. There's reports that Jalen
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Hurts is not down with Nick Sirianni at all. That's
a hot seat because they're not firing the quarterback. That
that's not happening. I think. I think John Harbaugh is
pretty secure. Yeah he is.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
How how long is McCarthy unemployed after the Cowboys fire him?
Because I think he's definitely got to get a job.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
Like twelve games the.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Last three years, the little old school win games. Belichiam
twenty six to seven trophies, Felt One Interview
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However you may be listening, Thank you for making us
part of your day. Five minutes Jimmy Johnson or less,
we'll stop by, so j Mac. I do like watching
some starters play a little bit in the preseason. Drake
May obviously last night look pretty good. All these rookie
quarterbacks have at least had one series or two where
you're like pretty good. So that's exciting. Now the twenty
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twenty draft two a hit, Burrough hit, Herbert hit, Jordan
Love eventually hit a Jalen hurt second ryt. Five guys
hit in the twenty twenty draft. Everybody knows about the
Elway Marino Jim Kelly draft ago, then there was the
big Ben Eli Manning Philip Rivers draft. The twenty twenty
draft right now got five hits. Five guys got a
second contract. So this, it's very encouraging. It's very encouraging.
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Everybody's look nobody's looked overwhelmed. And Drake's may is not
working with much in New England. But I was thinking
this morning, there's five quarterbacks in this league stories that
I'm really really interested in just as a consumer. I'm
a fan now number one my five most interesting quarterbacks.
The Caleb Williams thing is fascinating. He's polarizing. The Bears
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have a coach on the hot seat. The Bears are
the only NFL franchise that's never had a four thousand
yard passer. They've done defense well a lot of years.
Could this kid be there, Jordan? Could he be the
guy that literally changes the franchise? He is really talented.
I don't know the answer. I think he's gonna be productive.
I don't know if he wins a lot of games
this year. The schedule's pretty tough. The Packers, Lions, Vikings
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all capable. This kid will get me to the one
o'clock window on fall. Second A is Aaron Rodgers. This
season could help kind of cement his career. We know
he's talented, but little prickly calling out his coach occasionally.
Don't love that, mister little Lota in Egypt, don't love it.
Not the end of the world. Robert solid Nat Hackett
(02:19):
on the hot seat. There's a lot of combustible stuff
going on on crossing my fingers. He stays upright. They're
rebuilding the offensive line with potentially a rookie getting big snaps.
Can Elijah Vera Tucker stay healthy? He needs protection erins
at too. Listen. I'd put Patrick Mahomes going to try
to do something Tom Brady and Joe Montana couldn't do,
win a third strate Super Bowl. It's been a very
(02:40):
noisy offseason. I still think their wide receiver group is
a bunch of question marks and not a lot of answers.
But if anybody can do it, it's him. Can he
become the first ever back to back to back Super
Bowl winning quarterback? Certainly got the talent number four justin
Herbert don't have a playoff win, but damn he's good
Now he finally gets an elite coach. He's out of
(03:01):
a walking boot. Reportedly this morning he's ready to roll.
They don't have much at wide receiver. They're hoping that
kid out of Georgia's second rounder can work. He's one
of these kids. He was sensational as a rookie, had
Shane Steichen, and we're just kind of waiting for him
to pop. He's the last young quarterback that we all
think is good and we're waiting for stuff beyond stats.
He'd be number four and number five the mercurial Russell Wilson.
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I don't know what to make of it. He literally
was so good in Seattle. He got guys like Johnny
Manzel Baker Mayfield drafted, and I don't know what's happened
to his career. He got teammates calling him out, Sean
Payton and Pete Carroll dumped him. It's a weird career,
but I'm really excited to watch it now. There is
an honorable mention. I banged the table in the morning
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meeting to get him in the top five. The staff,
I get no support at all from the staff. I
think Sam Darnold is fascinating on his fourth team, trying
to rest direct his career, but the staff would not.
The staff would not allow me to put him in
the top five. I'm rooting for Sammy. I thought he
(04:08):
was going to be a star. What do I know,
here's somebody that does no stuff. Jimmy Johnson. The Hall
of Famers, super Bowl rings, college national championships. You know,
as I do that list, the erring thing is fascinating.
So he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. Nobody doubts
that he's smart. But I got to tell every time
he's on in front of the microphone, it's like he's
(04:30):
just poking people. He's poking the GM, he's poking he's
poking the media. It's a little exhausting as a consumer
of it. Would it drive you nuts as a coach
that he just doesn't walk up there say vanilla stuff
like Eli Manning and go sit down? What do you
make of it?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I'm interested in what he has to say, and you
probably would like it as well if he had gone
to USC.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Said he didn't go to USC.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, those cow guys. I got no time for catcle.
I want to talk a little bit about you and
Jerry are are finally back to a good space. But Jimmy,
I don't love the way he handles these stars. To me,
if you draft a guy in the first round and
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he hits and he's in a valuable position. Just get
the contract done, get it out of the news cycle.
I feel like Jerry's trying to get squeeze extra juice
out of it to get free publicity. I don't like it.
Just sign Seed Lamb. What do you make of the
way they handle it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well, he's really in a bind. You know, Jerry's in
a bond with these contracts. He's got three players that
want to be the highest play pay player at their position,
and you know, he made a mistake by not resigning
them earlier than what he's been doing right now. The
other thing is he's got the quarterback situation with Dak Prescott,
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and I think the entire league's got a problem here
because if you don't have a quality quarterback, you're.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Not gonna win, right.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Everybody understands that. But the only thing is good quarterbacks
are demanding great money. Yes, and they're not great quarterbacks,
they're not great players, but because their contract is up,
they're going to be the highest paid player at that position.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And this is kind.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Of escalated here for the last couple of years because
every owner is desperate and they understand they got to
have a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
They've got to have a quality quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And the quarterback money is taking too big a piece
of the pie as far as the salary cap.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So the NFL changed rules through your career. They're constantly tweaking.
They have a new kickoff now it looks weird. They
should probably just take the UFL version, but they probably
have too much ego and pride to just steal theirs.
It's probably better.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I'm watching it and I'm like, well, why not just
kick it out of the end zone. I don't want
anybody hurt and I don't want to what's the point.
So I don't think.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I love it? Well, I hate it.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, I do love it because before it was a
non play. Just kick it out of the end zone
and then put the ball, you know, there at the
line of scrimmage and go about your business. But I
think there's some strategy involved. Now, if you want to
play field position, you kick the ball to about the ten.
If you've got a good coverage unit and they don't
have an outstanding returner, you know you're going to get
(07:33):
good field position. They're glably get a penalty on that
same return and really back them up. Now, if you're
protecting a lead or you're afraid of their return man,
or you don't have a good coverage.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Unit, you kick it out of the back of the
end zone. You know they're towards the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
If you've got the lead and you want to just
win the game, just kick it out of the endine
give them the ball on the thirty no, no problem.
But if you're fighting for field position, kick it to
the ten cover and then that way you're going to
get better field position.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The You know, it's different today, Jimmy, these kids that
come into the NFL at quarterback seven on seven camps,
coaching is better in high school and college. I want
to see him play. I'm a little less likely to
sit him, although I think Drake may probably needs to.
But do you think in your time it was different.
Some guys had started two three years in college. They
(08:25):
didn't have camps, they didn't have ten thousand throws. If
you were coaching in the NFL today, would you be
more demanding on your rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, well, of course I was demanding from day one.
I've put eightman in there and he got sacked nine
times by Philadelphia and nearly got killed. But anyway, I
think because of the salary camp, and because the quarterbacks
are better prepared you coming into professional football, they're more
ready to play. You look at Caleb Williams, I mean
(08:54):
he's lighting enough. Of course, he was an outstanding player
right off the bat. You know, I love watching him play. Uh,
he's ready to go out there and win games. And
I think he will win games because they got a
pretty good defense and a decent football team. You look
at Daniels, I think he is a tremendous athlete and
(09:15):
I'm anxious to see him play.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
But I don't know how good a football team they've got.
But you're right, quarterbacks, you know, rookies now, they don't sit.
You know, if they're good enough, put him out there
and let him play.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So did you you made Troy Aikman play? But did
you unveil the playbook in stages or did you treat
him like he'd been in the league twelve years?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Please, I'd only been in the league for two years.
I would just learn the playbook myself.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It was a matter of being Troy kind of grew
up together.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, no, I get that. So when you so here
we go into this season, the season is now longer.
There's there's speculation it's going to be an eighteen game season.
So you know, it's funny Belichick. Nobody now plays starters
in the preseason. Once McVeigh didn't, people have bailed. I
look at September football, and I don't know what I'm seeing.
(10:12):
Are you comfortable with the current trend of just not
playing starters, especially older guys in the preseason and just
doing harder practices.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And yeah, they're getting their physical work with some of
the scrimmages they have against some teams.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
But I did a study all back a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
We were looking at all the injuries that happened early
in the season, and you know, I did a poll
with about three fourths of the trainers in the league,
and every trainer to a person said, because they don't
have a lot of physical work in the training camp
in the early part, that's why they're seeing so many injuries,
(10:51):
a lot of self tissue injuries, et cetera. Yeah, you've
got to have full speed physical work, especially for your
offensive line to kind of get in coordination.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And also, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Players got to be able to take a hit, they
got to know how to follow, they know how to
be in Apollo. You know they need physical work to
prevent some of these injuries, but that's one one reason
you see so many injuries in the early part of
the season.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Jimmy Johnson, the Hall of Famer. One of the things
that's happened over the last ten years is the rules
have pivoted significantly to the offense's favor. It's just easier
as an offensive coach can't grab corners. There's just it's
just it's hard. As a defensive coach, you feel like
you're almost working against the system. Everything's built for Andy
(11:37):
Reid right in McVeigh and all that. So and I
look at that, and I think we also have something
going on. We know that receivers are more valuable now,
but it does feel, Jimmy a little bit like a
wide receiver economic bubble is there is no proof that
superstar number one receivers win trophies. There is roof that
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a deep receiving corps does. I'm seeing some of these salaries.
I like Brandon Ayyuk. I love Trent Williams, the left tackle.
That's who I love, right, What do you make of
some of these salaries. I'm not saying they're not great. Players,
but I need a quarterback, a left tackle on an
edge rusher. What do you make of the quarterback? The
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receiver market has exploded in the last three years.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, I agree with you, you know, for the most part.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
You know, Colin, I think you know, by far, the
quarterback's most.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Important player on your team, and then maybe the backup
quarterback right after that.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But then, but your offensive line. You've mentioned Trent Williams,
but I think having a solid offensive line.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
And don't don't overlook this an offensive line coach. So
sometimes an offensive line.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Coach can take pretty good players and make them a
solid unit. So the offensive line coach, the offensive line,
the quarterbacks, and then you can find receivers. Now, obviously
everybody's not gonna be tyrenk Hill, you know, but there's
some quality receivers out there and you find them.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
There's a lot of them coming out of college.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, but that's some of the most important parts of
your football team. And you could win and that way,
have a solid defense, and you can win a lot
of games with that quarterback and some a group of
receivers and a solid offensive line.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Finally, you were not on the hot seat much as
a coach. I think Matt eber Flus is gonna feel
it in September. I think Mike McCarthy is our friend.
Dave wanstat Oas says, you can lose games, you lose
three in a row, you lose a locker room. And
so my take is, get ceedee Lamb into camp here
because this offense, it doesn't have a lot of juice
(13:44):
after CD you tell me for an eber Flus or
McCarthy and those Dennis Allen, could you sense and again,
you weren't on the hot seat much, but does the
temperature in the locker room change when you go into
it two game losing streak? Could you sense it as
a coach?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I was on the hot seat after I won two
Super Bowls, So it's a little bit different now. As
far as McCarthy, I think this. You're in the last
year of your contract. Win big and you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Get a huge contract, right then.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You have all the leverage, you know, so you know
people say, well, he's under pressure. Well, hey, every coach
is under pressure every year, every coach in the league.
But it doesn't bother me being in the last year
of the contract because You've got to win regardless what
the contract is. You ain't paid plenty of money, you
got plenty of money in the bank, but win big
(14:42):
and you will demand a huge, huge contract.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, is there is there a single team? We all
know who's good in this league? Did t I love
Detroit's roster, I love their front office. I've always thought
goff is underrated, best O line in the sport. But
you know, Jimmy, it is hard to break through. It
a losing culture. You start, you know, you go on
(15:05):
a losing street you have. You know, the Rams are
getting the super bowls now Kansas City. They think they're
gonna win in close games. Detroit fascinates me. When you
were losing in Dallas early, how do you break that cycle?
Because you took over a cowboy team that was losing
with coach Landry, you lost early? How do you break
that cycle before you've broken through and won a trophy?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The same way Dan Campbell's doing it there in Detroit.
Work and being a physical football team. That's what breaks
it because if you work them hard enough, they get
to believe in that they're going to win, so they
that that instills the confidence that they're going to win,
so hard work and being.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
A physical football team. If you're not a physical football team,
you're not really sure if you're going to win or not. Yeah,
you got to get some lucky breaks.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
But if you're a physical football team, you go into
the contest saying, hey, we're fixing.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great point. All Right, you already
got you already did your fishing, so I don't feel
as guilty. You'll be back on the boat on Monday.
You look great, as Owa's coach is great having you.
Thank you all right, enjoyed it all right. Hall of Famer,
Fox Sports legend, Jimmy Johnson, you know that that is
a great point. It doesn't matter if for the UFC
(16:22):
or football. If you're a physical team and believe you
can physically overpower another man, that's your confidence. If you're
a tricky, finesse clever, you still know you can get
punched in the mouth. It all starts with physicality. We
can out wrestle them. I'll dictate the wrestling match, and
that's what That's what Detroit has up front. They'll win
their old lines better than your D line, and we're
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gonna win that matchup. That's a great point that that
physicality in it can be maybe not in golf, but
maybe it is off the te. But the physicality is
where the confidence comes from. I can out wrestle you,
I can pin you, I can push you around. That's
where it all starts.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
And that's I think why we have had some good
fortunes with gambling because we look at offensive lines. When
you see the Dolphins offensive line right now in the preseason,
look at the Dolphins offensive line disaster. This arm set
situation is not good. And it's like people think golf this,
Oh yeah, Tyreek Hill and Waddle, they're gonna be good.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Just be careful. The offensive line is everything.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You can't win a World Series with a bad back end.
You can't have a bad bullpen. That's the Yankees biggest issue.
And you cannot win a Super Bowl with a terrible
old line. I don't think you can get to a
super Bowl with well. Cincinnati did, but Mahomes has only
been embarrassed once in his career. He was missing both tackles,
he had all the other players. You cannot win a
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super Bowl with the back.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
The Bengals when they got to the Super Bowl, I'm
almost certain that the Chiefs won the coin toss in
overtime and had the ball first.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
They were and that was before the new rule.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
So Chiefs should have just gone down and scored Mahomes
through the deep ball that was picked. So they probably
Bengals should not have even been there. Good fortune by
the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Now you're taking something away from Cincinnati. Why don't we
give Cincinnati love, not take away. I've given Cincinnati a.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Lot of love, just not on that particular topic.
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Speaker 4 (18:32):
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Speaker 1 (18:35):
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Speaker 6 (18:38):
Well, let's go to the New York Jets Aaron Rodgers
and Garrett Wilson. Remember they had that weird conversation recently
on the sideline.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
People couldn't tell if they were arguing or upset.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Well, this duo has the potential to be one of
the best in the NFL, regardless of what happens. In
late July early August, here's Wilson with some high praise
for his quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
For me, it feels like pure football. I don't know,
I always I feel like I said this one time before.
It feels like I'm a kidding in and I can
kind of believe what I see. It's the best way to.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Put it from me.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
It's always been a thinking game when you play receiver,
and there's these adjustments within plays, within routes, and based
on the quarterback, you know you can either do them
or you can't. But uh, with Aaron, you know everything's
everything's you can do it right, and uh, that's how
football should be played when you can do it.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
He's a good one, very good one. Cross your fingers
on his Hell what was that?
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Where's the love for Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I think he's really good. Good it really good. He's
a very good player. Thirteenth, fourteenth best receiver.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
No, no, no, come on thirteenth or four.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
You don't have the top ten. No, I think he's
close to like seven, eight. Okay, Well, I mean listen,
he had no quarterback last year and put up monster
numbers that he was the only target. So that part
of that's just if Fante Adams was the only target
with the Raiders, Garret wilsonante him just top three or four.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know, by the way, are you sure about that,
Garrett Wilson, When I say top twelve or thirteen, you
got a lave a. You got a lot of You
got a lot of these got young Brandon I. They're
all great. It's you're you're asking me to separate inches.
They're all excellent.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
That's what we do as experts. You have to separate
meaning lists. It's the people crave giving them.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
What they want.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
They get enough lists, scale back on the list, fewer lists.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Okay, you heard that one. Next up, Oh boy, Kansas
City Chiefs. Everybody loves them.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
But guess what Andy Reid wanted to play his guys
in Hollywood. Brown got hurt on the first play of
last week's preseason game.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Now the shoulder injury isn't serious. He could maybe still
play in Week one.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
I'm gonna go ahead and guess he will not.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Here's Patrick Mahomes addressing the veteran's injury and what it
means to the team.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
I guess we're lucky that it wasn't as bad as
it could have been. No, he's in good spitch, he's
doing well. Obviously we lose a little bit of that
veteran type receiver in that room. I mean, we have
other guys that can kind of replace a little bit,
but to have that much talent, I've a good understanding
what I want. But he's in the room. I think
that's what's awesome is he's talking to those guys and
everything like that, and so hopefully we're getting them back
sooner rather than later. But we got to keep pushing
(21:13):
those young guys that to keep getting better and better
every day.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, they'll be fine. You know. Not that I'm rooting
against him, because I always root for Andy Reid. I
like Kansas City a lot. But if I said to.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
You, what's what's the best story that wins, what's the
best story for us as broadcasters winning the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Because I'm gonna throw one at you. Green Bay Packers,
Jordan Love replaces Aaron Rodgers. He stumbles around. I mean,
I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs. Maybe and
literally rising from the ashes like the playoffs, like McVeigh Shanahan,
(22:00):
the Lions, Green Bay Packers with all super young and
also not only do they win, but we ask ourselves,
they're not paying anybody outside of Jordan Love. Could we
have a dynasty here? We love dynasty.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
I'm gonna call twenty second time out.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Are you saying best for this show or this network.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Saying best for the league?
Speaker 7 (22:20):
For the league?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
The young.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It's got a Seahawk feel to it. You have this
young quarterback, this successful coach without a Super Bowl Pete
Carroll leafleuor pre Super Bowl, this young quarterback that had
doubters and Russell Wilson, why do you have to transferler
and call you too small? Jordan Love sat for three
years Utah State, and that young Seahawks team goes in
(22:47):
and blasts Denver, and they go in and blast Kansas
City or Cincinnati, and we're like, we have ourselves a dynasty.
Green Bay winning is really good for the league. If
you have an Aaron Rodgers Jordan Love component, you have
a do we have a dynasty component? You have the
next superstar quarterback component? That's a great and by the way,
(23:09):
great brand.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
How many pieces of gum did you pop during that
commercial break? I mean that is Colin Listen. I like
the green where you're going.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
But that's the wrong shade of green. The better story
is Aaron Rodgers and the Jets no playoff, longest drought
in pro sports, and if they were to go up
and win the Super Bowl, that is.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
The best story. She's going for the three feet.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I think it's a dysfunctional New York team winning. Yeah,
and Rogers pulls them out about a functional small town
America team winning. Where we did you do a segment
earlier about how the NBA has Lebron and Curry all
over TV.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
The public likes known quantities. They love their Aaron Rodgers
is so pullarizing.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The NFL doesn't need that. Baseball needs the Dodgers Yankees
in a World Series. College football Ohio State in the Natty.
That's good news for everybody. NFL Jacksonville got to an
AFC championship.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
In the ratings for I think Jets and Rodgers would
pull a more interest than Jordan Love and the Packers.
I mean, every Rodgers is polarizing. That's what you want, right.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Jordan Loves is easy to root all in on this team.
That team.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
I think it's time to start fading the Packers based
on your lust for them. I thought you were Jared
Goff is gonna be like, I'm breaking up with you, coward.
You use too much love for also love.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Also, Detroit probably wins the division because of their own line,
so green Bay has to go through the wild card,
they have to go on the road. That's such an
easy story to put your arms around.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
All right, So what are your other ones? So it's
Chiefs and Packers. Those are the two best stories.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Now I'm just saying the Packers winning the Super Bowl
gives us like seven stories. I mean, I literally, do
we have a dynaste? Then Jordan loves the next Superstar?
Oh my god, Aaron Rodgers didn't matter. They were better
without it.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Can I give you seven quick ones off the top
of my head?
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Dallas cow Boys obviously the obvious boring. They've been to
the conference champions county years.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Let's count teams that have a realistic check.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
The Packers have been to the Super Bowl with Farvin
Rodgers no stop. But the Detroit Lions. I mean that
that would be a.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Number two clients will be number two, number two forty
nine Ers, cost a hand finally breaking through.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
That's always a bridemaid, never the bride. That's three New
York Jets, obviously. Then Josh Allen finally breaking through Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
That's good after moving off digs all behind Green Bay.
But good, Alright, I can't, I can't.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
I'm tried.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I tried, audience, the audience that convince him out of
the Packers.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I tried.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Final story, Colin is.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Big return tonight for Daniel Jones. He is playing in
his first game since suffering the torn acl in Week
nine last year. Giants take on the Texans. Sorry, that's
tomorrow night. Tomorrow Night, Giants, Texans, and the embattled QB.
Spoke about his mindset in his return.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Hm, I don't think I'll be thinking about my knee much.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
I think I've tested it, you know, I've tested it
and practice tested it in my you know, rehab and
workouts and feel like it's in a good place.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
So yeah, I mean I think, uh, you know, I'm
confident my.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Knee will be be ready to go. Won't be something
I'm thinking about. So remember when Andy Dalton had some
early success and everybody was like Cincinnati, he got no
playoffs and then just to get a little edgier, spiked
his hair a little bit, had a go tea.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
That did not happen.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That happened. Remember when Tiger did the go tea when
he got into trouble, Tiger Andy Dalton did a go tea.
Do you notice Daniel Jones, he was this like nice
duke kid. Look at him now, facial hair will chip
on his shoulder, swears occasionally, if you read the comments,
chip on his shoulder or boulder on his shoulder. I'm
just saying Daniel's gotten a lot of crap. He's rightfully
(26:57):
to He's won a playoff game. I'm just saying Andy
Dalton got a lot of craft the red rifle, and
he heard people like rolling their eyes and Ru came
in with a little gel in the hair and a
little goa tee, a little edge to get more respect.
Daniel Jones, that is not by coincidence. He's got a
(27:19):
little he's got a little anger. Look at the last
couple of times I've heard him talk. You got a
little chip on his shoulder. Now he's tired of getting
beat up by everybody. He watched that HBO Max and
the front office is trying to move up and get
him another quarterback. He's pissed. I kind of like this,
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
You don't have to take that be if you were
openly championing, like bringing in some other replacements.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
How do you know I'm not. I keep going to
lunches right after the show. I'm almost certain you're not
given how well the show's doing. But let me ask,
where's Daniel Jones a backup quarterback next season? Because we
know he's not gonna be starting to be giants. I
think I think people have just dumped on this guy
so long, and there's nobody that likes him, even his
own team. On HBO Max. That was brutal. That was
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that was way's been brutal. Well, he'd been hurt. The
resurrection of Daniel.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Jones, Rising from the ashes, Daniel Jones Vanilla Vick.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I just have a feeling that we have just crapped
on this kid, and it wears on you that stuff
does social media, he's like a meme and I think
he's gonna be I.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Just delete the app from your phone, Daniel.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Just get off TikTok, get off Twitter all that.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I can't stop loving TikTok. I got my comedians. I
go to every day, so can you.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
You should do me during the commercial break, look at
your phone and see how long you were on TikTok yesterday.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
You could do that, you know, I'm just curious. You
think it's over an hour.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I had probably fifteen minutes. Oh that's not batter Oh no, no,
I put the phone down. I do not take the
phone to dinner. I do not.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Impressive covert.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
By the way, this makes me. I was at the
gym yesterday. Okay, as a man, I'm just gonna speak
to man. If you can't go forty five minutes not
on your phone, don't go to the club home in
your couch. It's embarrassing how many guys take their phone
working out with them man, vanity searches. What are people
(29:09):
saying about me?
Speaker 7 (29:11):
Some of us take video of our workouts and posting.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Grossughing you don't follow me on ig I occasionally toss
that in there that people love it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
The people, yeah, not your bosses.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
I don't think they care. Will love it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You go lift weights, it's fifty minutes. Drop your phones.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
But if you go to the gym and you don't
document it, did you really go to the gym.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
O J.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
Herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
This is yesterday. I'm just like, is everybody in the
gym on their phone? Can't you just do I'm throwing
I'm throwing letter around. I mean it's I'm throwing iron
all over the gym and then or I want to
go sit down on something like, hey, I want to
do this and just are you doing it or not?
What are you doing? Are you? Are you retweeting your
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Speaker 6 (31:14):
The NFL preseason kicks off on Fox as the Saints
take on Brock Purdy in the Niners. That all again
Sunday at APM Eastern on Fox, the home of Super
Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Very exciting. Clarence Hill covers the Cowboys gonna be in
studio last hour, so we're gonna have everything. There's been
these reports that the crowds have been down at Cowboys camp. Well,
they didn't make any big splashy hires in their draft.
There's a lot of offensive linemen and it wasn't It's
okay before we get h This just came down Diana
(31:53):
Russini saying that Bownicks bo Nix is tearing it up
at Broncos camp. Just had a dagger on third and
ten to Courtland Sutton. Bonix's arm strength and his mobility
is way better than people think. I don't know why
this is, but the guy's cut. If you're with him
in personally, he's an athlete, he's ripped and I think
(32:15):
he throws a much better ball than people think that
this idea that he's small. Now, I don't think he
throws a great deep ball. But watch him move, watch
him move out of the pocket. Dude can move, and
he's got he got an arm. And there was that
throw at the against the Colts down on the goal line,
and you know, you think that's just an easy throw.
If it was justin fields, would still be in Chicago.
(32:36):
These are hard, quick throws. I think the guy's got
a better arm and moves better than people think, and
he is tearing it up. This is my this is
my best future bet in the NFL. Denver over unders
five and a half wins. I don't buy it. I
think their personnel is eight to nine. I think the
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Chargers are going to struggle to score points at times.
That'll give Denver a fighting chance they'll beat the Raiders twice.
Kansas City is not a high powered offense with this
receiving core mess, so Kansas City keeps you in games.
They're not the Kansas City of four years ago, so
I think they're gonna win some division games. And apparently
bo next today crushing it. So this is interesting. Not
(33:21):
all change is good, but I like change, especially when
something's broken. So baseball went to the pitch clock. You know,
it worked, It makes the game faster. One of the
issues the sport has, it's a really boring trend, is
that starting pitchers don't go many innings and bullpens dominate
the product. It's boring. Starting pitchers used to be off
(33:44):
in the face of the sport, like now they're like
ancillary bullpen guys. So they're thinking about creating a six
inning minimum for starting pitchers. So now there are exceptions,
and there should be. If he's already got one hundred pitch,
if he's given up four or more earned runs, you
(34:04):
know he's getting shelled, okay, or he's pitched one hundred pitches,
or there's an injury. But listen, bullpens dominating is bad
for the sport. And I do think analytics has hurt
baseball turns out watching math. Isn't that fun? Right? Players
(34:26):
need to be stars, not the formula. We don't need
to talk about exit v low and launch angle. Baseball
was always nerdy enough, like can we stop? And I
think I think we want our athletes to be rock stars.
Let them be rock stars. I mean, Nike came out
with a new ad campaign recently. I loved it. It's bold,
(34:47):
it's gritty, it's alpha, it's you're a loser, we're winners.
I loved it. No politics, not leaning into everybody gets
a ribbon. No, there's and losers. And that's why sports
has standings. I remember this with Caitlin Clark. The media
too often is protective when they don't need to be.
(35:10):
So Caitlin Clark comes into the WNBA and the games
are chippy, and I'm like, yeah, basketball is chippy, women's
and men's. Stop protecting women's basketball players. You go, girl,
throw a punch. Do what you gotta do. That's AAU,
it's college, it's pro, it's WNBA, it's European Basketball's chippy.
Go to the YMCA. Guys get in fights like you go,
(35:34):
Angel Reese. You gotta push somebody go for it. Stop
coddling and babying, and so the same in baseball. Now
it's very precious. The pitcher can't throw this many innings.
It's not high school. If a guy's six three and
a half two forty five, Paul Skeins, let him go.
(35:54):
By the way, they keep limiting pitching pitchers starting pitchers,
is it me or they're more injuries than ever. Everybody's
always hurt, everybody's always on the ir Just let guys pitch.
So I like this. I mean, the cigarettes that baseball
players used to smoke lasts longer than their outings. Now
(36:18):
let guys pitch. Let them go. You know, the guys
that I really love are Adam Wainwright, Justin Berlander. They're
beginning guys in their prime, and they've lasted forever. They
lasted forever. Let Paul Skeines go eight every time. So
I like it. So we had Jimmy Johnson earlier. We
(36:40):
talked about and Clarence Hill's coming last hour and we're
gonna sit down and talk about all these cowboy issues.
I am not a fan of pushing. If you know
you like something, just pay for it. It's not gonna
get cheaper over time, you can. You know, It's like,
if you like a house, it, don't wait for the
(37:01):
perfect interest rate. If you can afford it, buy it,
because either somebody else gonna buy it, the interest rate
might not come down. You can always refinance a home,
but there's only so many great school districts, and in
big cities especially, there's only so many great school districts
and so much beachfront property. If you like it, buy it,
you can readjust you know, you can always refinance as
(37:22):
many times you have to. So I don't like the
whole ced lampting. You like him, he's great, Sign him,
let's go, let's get it done. Get him in camp.
And Jimmy Johnson talked about that earlier.
Speaker 10 (37:33):
He's really in a buying you know, Jerry's in a
bind with these contracts. He's got three players that want
to be the highest play pay player at their position.
The other thing is he's got the quarterbacks that you
were with Dak Prescott. And I think the entire league's
got a problem here because if you don't have a
quality quarterback, you're not gonna win. Everybody understands that. But
(37:53):
the only thing is good quarterbacks are demanding great money
and they're not great quarterbacks. And this is kind of
escalated here for the last couple of years because every
owner is desperate and they understand they've got to have
a quarterback. They've got to have a quality quarterback, and
the quarterback money has taken too big a piece of
(38:14):
the pie as far as the salary cap.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
That's why I will defend the Packers drafting quarterbacks or
the Atlanta Falcons taking two. The reason the Steelers are
the Steelers because they were afraid of offending Big Ben
and drafting a quarterback. He didn't even like Mason Rudolph
as a threat. Mason Rudolph was never going to be
the next Big Ben or Bradshaw. He's fine, okay. So
(38:36):
it's like just draft quarterbacks and you know, like it
may offend Dak Okay, all right, Decks, he's grown up.
He can handle it. So I think when you never
forget this last year, seven teams, seven teams were almost
unwatchable offensively. They could have used Michael Pennix or Kirk
Cousins are both. So I do think Jimmy, I think
(39:00):
Dallas is in a weird spot where they I mean
eight they will not be. I think they're a bottom
five scoring team without Ceedee Lamb. You've got to get
him in. They can still generate somewhat of a pass
rush without Micah, they can't score with that CD. They're
running back room. They're still kind of choppy on the
old line tight end. They're good. I don't think they're special.
They gotta have CD Lamb in. You gotta just pay them,
(39:22):
and you drafted him. In terms of Mike McCarthy, another
reason to have ceed Lamb. Mike McCarthy's on the hot seat.
You can lose games. You lose three in a row.
Go look at Dallas's early schedule. Five road games first
eight weeks. That's not losing games. You could lose the
locker room and Jimmy talked about Mike being on the
hot seat.
Speaker 10 (39:43):
As far as McCarthy, I think this, you're in the
last year in your contract. Win big and you're going
to get a huge contract. Then you have all the leverage.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (39:55):
So you know, people say, well, he's under pressure, Well, hey,
every coach is under presher every year, every coach in
the league.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
It doesn't bother me.
Speaker 10 (40:03):
Being in the last year of the contract because you
got to win regardless of what the contract is.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
You didn't fake plenty of money.
Speaker 10 (40:09):
You got plenty of money in the back. But win
big and you will demand a huge, huge contract.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Here are the coaches, and there's very few that are
on no hot seat, like like the most secure coaches.
Andy Reid won, McVeigh two, Matt Lafleur three, Shanahan. Shanahan
has to win a playoff game.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
By the way, McCarthy won twelve games each of the
last three years and he's on the hot seat.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, he's had some real snaffoos, Layton games, situational stuff.
Andy Reid got run out of Philly because of that.
It wasn't because he couldn't coach. Was there a decade more?
I think Andy Reid won total security. Sean McVay, he
he can draft who he wants. Jim Harbor, well that
all the first year guys, that doesn't count. Okay, but
(41:03):
there's I'll say this again, I think Nick Sirianni's seat
is hotter than McCarthy because his quarterback we're reading from reports,
I'm not sure he trusts the coach. Dak and McCarthy
seem to get along fine. From what I can tell
Clarence Hill will know the truth. But I think Dak
and McCarthy they get along fine. There's reports that Jalen
(41:23):
Hurts is not down with Nick Sirianni at all. That's
a hot seat because they're not firing the quarterback. That
that's not happening. I think. I think John Harbaugh is
pretty secure. Yeah he is.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
How how long is McCarthy unemployed after the Cowboys fire him?
Because I think he's definitely got to get a job.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
Like twelve games the.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Last three years, the little old school win games. Belichiam
twenty six to seven trophies, Felt One Interview
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