May 6, 2025 • 43 mins
Colin gives his latest NFL predictions following the NFL draft
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Speaker 4 (00:37):
Of your day.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I actually defended Jason Tatum last hour and if you
did not catch it, my take is before I get
to my NFL predictions and Nick Wright, if the Celtics
culture is so paralyzed by threes now and it's a
very strong culture from Danny Ainge, Udoka, Missoula, Brad Stevens
and Tatum is such a collaborative player. Instead of beating
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people off the dribble, which he could, he gets very
much into a Hey, I'm gonna stay be part of
the team.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I'm gonna take threes.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And I thought last night was a prime example of
sometimes even Phil Jackson, the zen Master with a triangle,
I'm gonna let Michael and Kobe.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Impose their will. They're gonna do what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Lawrence Taylor, line up where you gotta line up, make
plays happen. I think sometimes Tatum, who can beat almost
everybody in this league on the wing, off the dribble,
settles because he's collaborative.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
We have threes.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
The Celtics are last in the NBA and free throws
and third worst in layups, and they just stick to threes.
And when they have these bad nights shooting them. Warriors
used to have these, they just keep shooting them. And
I'm like, no, Tatum, get open, get me buckets. I
don't care where they're at. Eight straight possessions. Impose your will.
But again, collaborative, smart, great kid, duke kid, I'm gonna
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be part of the team. We shoot threes here.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I don't like it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So I do this times before the start of a season,
when there's coaching changes and free agencies done, I give
an NFL prediction. Then after the draft, yes, drafts matter,
I make another prediction. Then after camp or during camps,
I'll make a prediction. And then right before the season,
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the Thursday of the season, I make my final prediction.
So I've got a lot of changes, but most at
the bottom of divisions. So let's start with the AFC,
so the easiest. I would bet my car on this one.
Bills win it. Dominant quarterback, not close, and well coached. Patriots.
I've said this, they will be the Washington of the NFL.
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I predicted Washington and Denver would be the most improved teams.
I'm predicting the Patriots will be the most improved team.
Drake may actually has a coach and they've made major upgrades.
Oh and d line. Dolphins aren't good. They're going backwards,
but I'll take them over the Jets, where I.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Don't like anything all right. Next up the AFC North.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Even if Aaron Rodgers shows up, they're not beating the
Ravens or Bengals. Browns I think are looking for a
quarterback Ars Manning in next year's draft. I like their GM,
Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski don't like ownership. I feel
pretty good about this AFC South. I'm gonna make a change.
I think the Texans win it going away, and the
Titans are a wild card team. I will take the
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Jaguars third and all move the Colts.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Down to fourth.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I don't know who's playing quarterback for the Colts. My
guess is Daniel Jones wins eventually. But the Jaguars, to
their talent credit, got the best player in the draft
in Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
He will make an impact.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
They upgraded their offensive line significantly, so again it's not much,
but I'll take the Jaguars third and the Colts fourth,
and in the AFC West, I feel the same way.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
It's inches, not feet.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I think the Chargers embodied empowered their run game and
they're going to be a ball control offense with two
great tackles, a great coach, a great quarterback, and two
excellent running backs. They also upgraded it end. I think
they're gonna be not as much sizzle as you may want,
but they're just gonna ground teams.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It'll be classic Jim Harbaugh. Year two.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You will be looking at a team that is completely
different than they were two years ago. She's still win
ten to eleven, maybe twelve, but they've been a second
Broncos and Raiders.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Didn't love the Broncos draft.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So my AFC playoff predictions Bill's Ravens, Texans, Chargers, Patriots,
Bengals are new in chiefs. We go to the NFC now,
where I do have more changes. Eagles commander's going away.
I'm gonna put the Giants at third and the Cowboys
at four. I thought the Giants actually got impact guys
in the draft. I thought Skataboo the running back, will
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absolutely make an impact and Abduall Carter hate that he's
asking for Lawrence Taylor's jersey, but he's gonna be an
impact guy.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
They've already got a good d line. It'll be even better.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Cowboys hiring Brian Schottenneimer big mistake, Barry dak Reliant. I
go Cowboys in the cellar. Next up, NFC North. I'm
keeping at the same I think the Bears eke into
the playoffs. I think Jordan Love I like. I think
they're worried about him. That's why I went a receiver
in the first round. They're not quite sure they can
trust Christian Watson's health. They're going to make this Jordan
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Love thing work. So they had a couple of other
needs defensively, and they went wide receiver again. Vikings will
be a very good fourth place team. I think letting
Sam Darnold go, I think they may regret it all right,
I have another change. I'm gonna move Tampa from second
to first to win their division. I like their draft.
I always liked their drafts. I did not like the
Atlanta Falcons draft. And I don't know what Michael Pennix is.
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By the way, I thought a Mecca and Buka to
that receiving corps and that offense. He will be an
eighty catch guy potentially as a rookie. I think he
Every GM I talked to when I said, did anybody
reach for a Mecca, They're like, no, that guy could
have been the fifth pick, and it's a smart pick.
He will deliver. Get day one, Bryce Young's improved Saints,
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They're done and finally, yeah, you can see it. I
think the Rams are gonna win it. I think Seattle's defense.
I thought Seattle had the best draft in the NFL.
I thought Arizona and Cleveland had the second best draft.
Arizona's defense is gonna.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Be a handful. Their offense is fine.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Also, Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray now go to a
second year together.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
That matters.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I don't like what I see with the Niners. I
did not like their draft at all. I think when
you look at the Niners draft, I see Kyle Shanahan
taking some reaches here to help him and not the
future he wants to win.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Now, I didn't like the Niners draft at all.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'm not saying they're a five win team, but I
think Arizona can win ten to eleven games. So my
playoff picture in the NFC Eagles, Lions, Bucks, Rams, Commanders, Bears, Seahawks.
Nick right, First things first, Yeah, he's not gonna be happy,
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by the way.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
This is so bad.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
It's just can I do you realize what you did there?
You did two things there?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
What hi, Colin?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
One is you have seven of the eight division winners
from last year winning their division again, with the one
exception being a team whose quarterback has won the division
every year of his career is and this is not
a misquote, is a career thirty five and five against
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divisional opponents. That's the first thing you did that I
think you're gonna want back. The second thing you did
was more indirect, but from listening to your own words,
you have the Arizona Cardinals, the New England Patriots, and
the Kansas City Chiefs all winning the same amount of games.
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That doesn't feel dumb to you. I hate to use
that word, but doesn't just on its face, that feel like,
you know what, Maybe I need to recalibrate this one,
just a touch, just a touch. If I have the
Chiefs in the same bucket as the Cardinals and the Patriots. Okay,
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just an idea.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Okay, well, I'll give it some thought. I've still got.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Two more you know, Yeah, go exactly. I mean, when
you put it that way, it is fairly agreed. Yeah
it is.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And everyone else, oh god knows, you can't ye. Every
other division winners earned the bind for the doubt, except
for a team that won seventeen games last year and
has been to three straight Super Bowls. But they looked
bad in the Super Bowl. How the Chargers look in
their Super Bowl, which is called the wild card round
When you're golden boy, Herbert threw more picks than he
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did all year. But never mind, is fine?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Whatever, Okay, so this must have some fun. So I
defended Tatum. This was an easy day for my brand,
the Covenant Burion. But I said that the Celtics are
a little like the Warriors. They're paralyzed by the three
point shot. At least The Warriors in their prime had
like a different player, Draymond Green, and they and he
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could sometimes be the catalyst, and even though it was
small ball, they can have kind of a different look sometimes.
Tatum is such a good guy and so collaborative, and
he's got great handles.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
He's six 's eight.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He could beat anybody in the league, including Michale Bridges
to the basket. But I find their culture is so
overwhelmingly shoot a three that a couple of times he
beat guys off the dribble and he backed out and
shot a bad, off balance three, and I thought he's
such a good guy that he's not going to impose
his will.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
He's taking three pointers.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
This team was last in the league in free throws,
third last in layups. They play one way, and I
think Tatum's too gifted to say this is what you've
got to be offensively. I think I'll giving him a
little pass that some of this is this paralyzation in Boston.
If you can only score one way.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Well, listen, it might end up being smart. They won
the championship doing it last year. Last night they missed
forty five threes and they're still in overtime and so
I don't stylistically, I don't enjoy it as much as
I watch different watch as much as I enjoy watching
different styles of play, and I would hate it if
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the entire league moves to that so much so that
I would think the league might need to adjust how
it does three pointers, similar to how Baseball made adjustments,
just because I don't think it's as good of a
viewing experience. In regards to Tatum, listen, Tatum is gonna
have nights like this in the playoffs. We know that
he's also gonna have stretches like he had at the
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end of last series, where he's scoring thirty five every
single night those final three games. I have one real
gripe with Tatum last night. Guys are gonna miss shots.
It happened. I thought the final possession of regulation he
let the knicks off the hook in a tie game.
The fact that he was just content to dribble, you know,
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dribble out the shot clock essentially and then take a
tough three, I thought was a mistake. I think that
in that setting where you're not going to be able
to hold for the last shot because there was a
four or five second differential, I think that's the one
right there. I just think you can get a better
look for yourself, yeah, or a teammate, yes, And spec like,
I don't think you should ever treat a possession with
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fifteen seconds left in a tie game the exact way
you would treat it if you're trailing by two, And
that's to me what he did. So I thought that
was a mistake. But I do like, like, this is
where this is where you're great. Tatum might score thirty
eight in Game two and that'll be the day you're like, listen,
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he's really good, but he's not great. And then he
had a terrible game and they let me let him
off the hook. He's too nice, too nice of a guy,
And so I also didn't love. Can I say something
about the Knicks or we moving on?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No, I don't think they're gonna win another game in
the series, but you go ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
So they might not. The flip side is if they
can get one more, they guarantee themselves a Game six
at Madison Square Garden, which will be the biggest basketball
game played in that arena professional game this century. It
will be the biggest Knicks game at home since the
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run to the finals in ninety nine. But here's what
is so exciting for the Knicks about stealing that win yesterday.
They built an entire team colin around this series. They
every move they made in the offseat. They traded for
og so they had someone to could guard Tatum and Brown.
They traded for Michale Bridges so they had someone could
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guard Tatum and Brown. They then broke up the Villanova
Corp before they even let them all play together, after
getting m Kale to move off Julius Randall to bring
in Karl Anthony Towns, with the idea being, you guys
have five quality to great starters in Boston, we're gonna
have the same thing in New York. All of it
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is they built an entire team with just the Celtics
in mind, similar to how the Rockets used to build
their team with the Warriors in mind. That's the team
we have to get through. And now, after getting annihilated
the first three times they played in the regular season,
they played them at the end of the regular season,
went to overtime and they lost. They played them last night,
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he went to overtime and they won. It would be
so disastrous for the Knicks to get run off the
court in this series, the way Vegas thought they would,
the way I think you and I both probably thought
they would, stealing that first game and now putting real
pressure on Boston that Boston's got to feel like we
need to win the next three or else we are
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guaranteeing that this is going at least six to MSG.
And so I thought it was an awesome win for
a team that built their entire roster with this one
series in mind.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So before I get to the Warriors, I want to
talk Lakers for a second. You had a very interesting take,
and I gave you credit for this yesterday. I thought
it was I think Balmani and you both had something
similar where you talked about if you go back to
JJ Reddick at Duke never won a title, had his
worst game a most in March in a pressurized situation,
was a great shoot at a terrible game. And so
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I watched your rant, and then I went to his
NBA career stats playoff.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
In regular season the same thing.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Never hit a big shot in the playoffs of note,
It's like, wow, he was significantly less of a player.
And then you watch him coaching, and I thought he
got worked, And I thought to myself, Well, if you
had a short temper as a human being at work,
you probably have it at home. We do carry over
personality traits. He's always been this great looking, really smart,
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really talented guy who clearly puts a ton of self
imposed pressure right like he nobody else it's JJ on JJ,
And I think it was an interesting take that, hey,
maybe maybe you're going to see him coach like he
played a little bit here. And I don't think that's
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a crazy take, is it?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
No, I listen. I think that there are certain guys
who get tight, and I think some people reflexively thought
that it was unfair for me to bring up nineteen
year old JJ Reddick and his performance in the Sweet
sixteen in talking about forty year old JJ Reddick in
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his performance in his first playoffs coaching. But he has
an entire twenty year basketball history of he is at
his worst when the stakes are the highest, and I
think that is purely because he's wound little too tight.
I think you saw it before Game five when he
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was snapping at the reporters for asking totally reasonable questions
where he is actually projecting, where he says to the reporter,
oh are you saying that because I'm inexperienced, when the
reporter said nothing about his lack of experience. I think
that sometimes you are who you are, and the good
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thing about being a coach versus being a player is
if you're a player who gets tight in big moments,
that can physically manifest itself in a way now that
he's not playing, I really think it's like about meditation
and outlook and things he can do to just not
be wound quite so tight, because I do think JJ
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was excellent this year. Obviously he puts the work in,
Obviously he's sharp, But when you have a long track
record of seizing up in the biggest moments, By the way,
it's no anyone that's shocked by another James Harden stinker
in a game seven. That's another guy. Go look at
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his two in CAA tournament games. This has been who
he's been since Arizona State, where he's at his worst
than the best in the biggest moments. Yeah, I think
as a coach he can adjust, but that takes a
self awareness that I think maybe JJ is lacking just
a bit.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So I was saying this earlier, and it goes kind
of counterintuitive of what people would think is I'm a
Dubs fan and I love Staff and everybody does. I
said privately, the minute Adam Silver sign that seventy six
billion dollar deal, it's up to NBCESPN and Amazon to
figure out how to make money on that. He's looking
to the next negotiation and he doesn't want the eight
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best players to be international. He needs a domestic face.
It's not a survival, but it helps. Aaron Judge hit
four hundred. Rob Manford is sleeping very well right now
with the Yank right so, I said, privately, if you
asked Adam Silver, he'd be like, hey, Lebron and Steph
didn't play last night. It was you couldn't keep your
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eyes off the NBA. I want ant to win. I
think privately he is saying Hansome got the Riz Great.
He's knocked out KD. He's knocked out Booker, he's knocked
out uh Luca, he's knocked out Jokic. I think privately
the league wants Minnesota to win. They've squeezed Steph and
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the Warriors, they've squeezed the juice. I think the league
wants Minnesota to advance, and I think it hell.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I think it would be. I think that it would
be better for them long term, for sure. I think
one of the mistakes the league has made from a
programming standpoint is a short term thinking as far as well,
the Lakers and the Warriors get the biggest number, so
put them in the regular season in the prime slots.
And they haven't conditioned into the audience to look at
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Shay as a superstar, to look at you know, hell,
I'll go to Palo Bonco as a future superstar. And
obviously now Ant's gone on these playoff runs to where
he has forced the issue, making the Conference finals last
year and this year knocking out Luke and Lebron. I
also think it doesn't much matter who the league wants
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to win. It's not the David Stern NBA, where we
got a rep we can call in and be like,
hey man, we need eleven foulsand the first quarter on
the Sacramento Kings. Lakers got to keep it moving. But
I regardless of who the league wants to win, I
do not know how anyone could have watched Round one
and feel like the Warriors are in a good position
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in this matter.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I think.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I think they're in huge trouble Colin Minnesota can do
to Golden State what Houston did on the defensive end,
but they've got guys who can score on the offensive end.
And if Steven Adams gave you massive trouble, what about
new and improved Rudy Gobert. And there's the other element
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of Draymond already being on a knife's edge of flagrant
foul and technical accumulation to where he's staring at another
postseason suspension. So this reminds me Colin a ton of
the playoffs two years ago, when the Warriors were in
a brutal seven game series against a young, fun Sacramento
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Kings team. Step in that game seven had fifty you know,
they got through it, and then they were dead on
arrival against the Lakers. Now, again, a lot of NBA
Twitter is pretended that series didn't happen because the new
narrative is this is Steph's era. But the Stephen Lebron
played two years ago in the playoffs, Lakers handled him
pretty quickly. I think a similar thing is gonna happen here.
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I think Minnesota wins tonight. I think Minnesota is the
more rested team, obviously the deeper team. I think they
are the healthier team, and I think they're the better team,
and I think this is a really tough matchup for
Golden State.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
By the way, didn't prep you on this at all,
but I'm gonna throw this out there. You're younger than me,
and so maybe your generation is different. But when guys
say you got to shoot your shot, and I always think, oh,
oh really, So Abdul Carter's like, Hey, I'm gonna ask
to see if I can get Lawrence Taylor's jersey.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
It's like no time out. I think less of you asking.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And I think when guys always say you got to
shoot your shot, well, does that mean if I look
like George Clooney and draw flut jet stream or golf
streams everywhere? I could just hit on your wife, Hey,
you got to shoot your shot.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
There are certain things you do at a basic decency
in the world that you don't do, Like you don't
if I invite you and your wife to a party
and you say, hey, you couldn't find a babysitter, can
I bring my kids? And you tell me this five
minutes before, I'd be like, well okay, but you know
I don't really have a right. So this idea that
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you should just ask Drake May should just ask if
he could wear Brady, or or Abdul Carter should ask
if you can wear Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I am bothered by the ask of it.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
I just a one hundred percent agree. No, Yes, you
are an old man, but you are correct on this,
and you and I are sidebar different generations. One thing
our two generations, though having common colin is neither one
of us should be on television saying the word is so.
I don't know when you added that one to your vernacular,
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but let's put that one back in the drawer. But
on this specific point, you're one hundred percent correct, and
I'm gonna take I'm gonna take it a step further.
You are right that the idea of oh, there's no
harm in asking is just anathema to how human beings work.
Like a go to a job interview and midway through
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it be like by the way unlimited vacation. I figured
i'd ask, like, no, that that's not how adult human
beings work. I am adding something to it though. In
the NFL, when a guy goes to a team and
someone else has the number he wants, normally the ask
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involves and I'll give you one hundred grand or I'll
buy you a car or something like that. I'm even
more bothered that these asks didn't include some signing bonus money,
like a dual card, your number three pick. Like if
you call up Laurence Saylor, like, hey, I want to win.
I want to wear fifty six, and here's a quarter
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of a million dollars, maybe there's a conversation you would
ask if if there was someone on the Giants wearing
the number he wanted, that guy would be offered money.
So if you're gonna ask the greatest defensive player ever
and just ask him to do it as a favor,
that's even worse. But yes, I agree with you. Also,
last point on this, Mitch Schwartz made this. I think
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a few other people haven't. It's smart. It shouldn't even
be if a team has retired a number, that shouldn't
even be allowed. Like even if Lawrence had said yes,
the Giants need to be out in front of this
being like, no, it's a retired number. It's not about Lawrence.
We retired it. You can't have it because we're not unretiring.
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That way, you take the onus off Lawrence Taylor and
Phil Simms's family. But yeah, I didn't like the ass either.
I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
One last thing.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
You do realize why I use RIZ. I don't because
I stand on business.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Okay, See this is I don't know. I don't know
why this is become a thing. But you maybe you're
maybe you've gotten to a point to where it's like
the circle is completed, so you can just say anything
and it's like it's not cringe, it's just charm. But
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I'm telling you right now, I don't need Colin Goward
talking about RIZ or standing on business. I don't need it.
Maybe the audience does.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
All right, Yeah, boy, that really gets me all worked
up about just asking. I said, I if you work
at Fox and it's your first week, Hey, do you
mind if I park in the CEO's parking spot? Hey
you gotta shoot your shot? Yeah, you know, let me
take that application. We'll be hiring somebody else. There are
certain questions and certain things you just don't do. You
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don't get Tom Cruise's parking spot at Paramount or whoever's
making his movies. Don't ask you haven't you haven't even
earned the ask forget the jersey.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
You haven't earned the ask and that's standing on business
and we're back after this.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
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Speaker 1 (25:57):
Wolves Warriors Tonight also schedule release.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
When is that again? Is that Wednesday?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Eight days?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Is it next Wednesday? Can we move it up?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Why?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I had some one of my favorite nights of the year.
I'm sitting there watching the night. You know, I wanted
to go. I have a bunch of stuff to do today.
I think today's a cigar buying night. I'm not going
to smoke any Last night I didn't have time. I
had to watch the games. I had to break the
stuff down.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
You can't smoke a cigar and watch basketball at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I don't have an outdoor space right now, you know whatever.
So I do in other places, but not here. So
right now I'm just tonight I'll be I'll buy a cigar,
but I don't have a place to smoke a cigar
unless I rearrange stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I don't want to know.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Are you like to buy it from seven to eleven?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Or are you going, I got my I got my place.
I'm not gonna. I'm listen. It's la. It's hard to
buy a cigar in half the town.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
There's smoke shops on every quarter or not not not oh,
not that kind of smoke.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Well, not at the beach. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
The regulations in this town are loon tubes. J Mack
with the news.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
No, no, no, this is the Herdline News.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
All right, let's start with the best football team in
New York and that's Buffalo Billy b I'm sorry Brandon
being the GM. Remember he was upset with some local
radio meatballs a few weeks ago after they went after
him for not drafting a receiver. Well, the Bills just
signed Elijah Moore FORBD jet receiver.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Underwhelmed he was okay in.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Cleveland, Okay, And you know he's a number four number, Yeah,
he's a number three or four.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Yeah, he's a rotational guy. He's fired up about a
chance in Buffalo.
Speaker 8 (27:36):
For me, it's more like my whole career, I haven't
really had, you know, too many great opportunities with a
stable quarterback the entire season. I just feel like having,
you know, being blessed with opportunity to god willing have
seventeen for the entire season. The MVP at that a
top tier caliber player, top two caliber team, top two
caliber coaches.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Putting you in position.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
I feel like it was just me the best I
haven't put in yet.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah, I think he'll do fine.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Thing. Anybody that plays with Josh Allen, if they work
hard and are coachable, will flourish, like playing with Lamar
Mahoalmes or Stafford. You can find a lot of guys
off the street that can play. I mean they put
Juju Smith. Schuster was toast in New England. He went
to Kansas City in the Super Bowl. They're targeting him
nine times. The quarterback leads the receiver.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
I kind of know how he feels, because you know
when he started his career, who was this Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Awful in New York.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I feel bad for I've said this before. It's not
just quarterbacks where you lent an other certain positions like
running back you could eat. You're either good or you're not.
Like Jamir Gibbs is better with Detroit.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
So what he would be in Barkley in New York
was okay, well not amazing, And then he goes to
the Eagles and oh.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
But he was viewed in the league as really good.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Yeah, he's elite.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Now.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Yeah, when I started my career, I did a TV
show with a guy who is just the worst.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Human being out. I was awful.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Now I'm with you, and I feel like Elijah Moore,
Josh Allen, hey man, I got a superstar.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I just I do think quarterbacks lead Puka Nakua is
not putting up these numbers with twenty of the quarterbacks. Now,
maybe he is with Mahomes, but when you have you
with Bryce Young, well yeah, I mean just like McVeigh
and Stafford in the good Old Line to remarkable, how
good you are as a rookie receiver?
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Remember Stafford in Detroit thought of as a kind of
a bust he at.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
He was known as sort of a stat guy.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
But not win the playoffs game in Detroit, and I
was like, is he good? He was the number one pick.
Goes to the Rams and he's like, oh, this is
But like people.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
In the league, the smart guys knew he was good.
He was good.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Yeah, but you go number one overall, you gotta win
some playoffs games.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Collin he had none. Now he should have won in Dallas.
I had money on that. I'm sure you remember it.
Some questionable calls, shall we say? Anyas, Let's move on
to another draft story, and that's Will Johnson, who you
love that in Michigan. Really talented kid. All Americans sell
out of the first round, don't get it?
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Do medical issues?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Arizona steels it.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Yeah, Arizona grabs him in this secon around. He said
that he's about to kill. You're gonna have to pay
for blieb. I promise you. Arizona is getting a dog.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
He was my favorite corner. The knock on him as
he gets hurt a lot, that's a fair knock. But
let me ask you if he played fourteen games a
year for the next for his contract, would you take Yeah?
And also the league now plays zone. Everybody's play zone.
He's a great zone corner. He's not a burner. He's
he could shut down your two if you have a
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Not that many teams are throwing the ball over the
top because there's not that many good old lines. If
I say great O line in the NFL, you'll name
Detroit and Billy you'll know who it is. Because there's
so few great old lines, so that doesn't allow a
lot of quarterbacks to go downtown a lot. And the
other thing is the league's playing zone. That's why Puka
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Nakua comes in.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
He can read the zone. He's open constantly.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
I forgot, do you have Arizona playoff team?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
No? I have, but I have him as a I
think they're gonna be one of the more improved teams
in the league.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
The only problem is the the NFC has that NFC
North where there could be three teams in the in
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I'll just say it now.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
The NFC North is good, but I think in the
building Matt Lafleur was disappointed with Jordan Love at the
end of last year.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
That's why they drafted a receiver because they got to
get this right.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Dinged up a few times.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Right, he did, but he was not and I like him.
He was not as consistent.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
And you can tell people like like in Ben Johnson
in Chicago, you can tell what the Bears are doing
with their draft. They're saying, listen, we need to find
out if Caleb's in. So there's gonna be no excuses.
We have two tight ends, two receivers, two running backs.
There's gonna be no excuses, right, Like, that's the way
to do it. What Chicago's doing is we're not gonna
leave him a little shorthanded and go. I mean, like,
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you knew Justin Herbert even if he wasn't getting to
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
You're like, yet that works.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
You knew it with Josh Allen, you knew it with Lamar,
But with Caleb You're like, there's a lot of people
that just do not like his footwork and do not
think he's patient enough to be a right quarterback. So
I do think what I do think there is value
in finding out if your quarterback is the guy by
year two.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Well here, I don't think this is gonna be it
for Kayleab.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
He's definitely gonna get a third years first year with
Ben Johnson learning curve, I think Bryce Young and Kyler
Murray are the guys to keep an eye on after
this year final story.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Colin is Uh we talked a lot.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
About Shador Sanders falling down draft boards. Well, one of
his receivers at Colorado, a gentleman by the name of
Lejohnte Wester, spoke about Shadour while Wester was at Baltimore's
mini camp.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
He's a rookie. I was disappointed that they did him
like that.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
I know Shador is gonna get in the lab, he's
gonna work hard, and he's gonna win that job in Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Now, obviously he's a little biased.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Knowing Shador, I'll be surprised if he wins the starting
job in Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
That would shock me.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It would surprise me. It wouldn't shock me that that
quarterback room leaves a lot to be desired.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Now, I don't waiting until the fifth rounded draft.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Well that's that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Doesn't that tell you that staff is like not for us?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Well, that's the that's the owner saying that is for us.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
So who runs the show there?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Why did they draft Johnny Manziel? Why did they give
to Shaun a guarantee deal? Why did they draft Shaduur?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Maybe the other not.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Always wait around?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
But he does.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Tough to tell that to a billionaire, But uh yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
So they have here. Do you think Schaduur's starting more
than six games?
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
No, I think it's on six. I shouldn't say that six.
I think it's about six.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
No, shot not, you know, Can I just say this
if you had dropped from the third pick in the
draft of the sixth and I'm asking you, you've dropped
five rounds. It's now like embarrassing. What would your reaction
be if you were drafted? Would it be ultimate excitement
jumping in a pool or kind of like pissed like
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Aaron Rodgers. You're gonna pay for that, Will Johnson? What
does Will Johnson say? The league will pay for that mistake?
Shitters like the best day ever. It's like, dude, little
self awareness, But you just got embarrassed for three days
during the draft.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
But even if it doesn't work out for him in Cleveland,
you know what she doer is gonna have a soft landing.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
His family's wealthy. Well, he's got he's got made a
lot of Annie Al's.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
It's just an interesting reaction. I'm not saying it's the
wrong reaction. But Will Johnson's reaction is what great players
players that become great. Will Johnson is mad at the NFL.
Aaron Rodgers was mad. Tom Brady went to Robert Kraft,
the best draft pick you've ever made. Guys that drop
in the draft, the great ones have a mission. They
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are gonna play. And every team that passed on them.
They will remember that for the rest of their career.
They're not They're not like overwhelmingly happy. They are resolute
and Okay, all right, I dropped to the fifth see
in camp.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I just think it.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I'm not saying what you Ner did is wrong, but
I think if I fell that far, I would.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Be so angry.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, so so absolute laser focused on not only winning
that job, winning it in two weeks.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
Well, he might be, but maybe that was him putting
up a front to act like that He's not bothered.
You know, I would do the same, right, Okay with
young young Colin, Like, hey, Matt saying.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
What he did is wrong, I'm saying it's just an
interesting discussion. Oh keeps jumping into pooling that this is
the greatest thing. It's like I would have been so
Will Johnson in your previous story. Is what guys I've
heard in the NFL, Matt, You'd be amazed how often
I talked to a pro somebody in pro sports didn't
know us have to be the athlete, and they're like,
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so many of the great players have a chip on
their shoulder. I mean, and I'm talking seventeen years into
their career. They're still mad at the team.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
That passed them.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
By the way, when I hosted for you once time,
Aaron Jones, the running back of the Vikings, is in
here and joined the commercial.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
I'm talking to him and he was still seating about
the Packers moving.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
On to him curious.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Yeah, it's like, dude, I can't believe they did it.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
People always say, people always say in life, don't take
it personal.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Well, it is personal. Yeah. If I dropped to the.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Fifth round and Cleveland passed on me four times, I'm
going to that camp to show Kevin Stefanski and Andrew
Berry you made a massive mistake.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
And then he let him know that.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And by the way, I'm gonna be great. And by
year three, I'm gonna go and say it's time for
a contract early. I'm just saying that's how a lot
of players act. J mcklaman, Well.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's the news and thanks for stopping by. The herd
Line News.
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Dan Woik in Studio Last Hour covers the Lakers, that
JJ Reddick stuff, that Lucas stuff.
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Speaker 1 (38:13):
I got all worked up yesterday and that whole ambual
Carterfick and I know what happened a week ago, but
I saw another story on it a couple of days
ago and it bothered me.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
I do think there.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
I don't like the term shoot your shot, like there
are things you shouldn't ask for. Again, it is should
you if just because you're great looking you maybe you're
very successful and charming, Should you be hitting on married
women you're a creep? Like like way, I'm just gonna
shoot my shot. No, not really, Abdull Carter just asking
(38:48):
for Lawrence Taylor's jersey. Just the ask to me is
a total non starter and a lack of self awareness.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
And Nick Wright agreed.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
In the NFL, when a guy goes to a team
and someone else has the number he wants, normally the
ask involves and I'll give you one hundred grand or
buy you a car or something like that. I'm even
more bothered that these asks didn't include some signing bonus money,
(39:22):
like a dual card, your number three pick, Like if
you call if Laurence Sailor like, hey, I want to win,
I want to wear fifty six, and here's a quarter
of a million dollars. Maybe there's a conversation, like even
if Lawrence had said, yes, the Giants need to be
out in front of this being like no, it's a
retired number.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yeah, totally agree on this.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
It's just I'm sorry, just the idea that you know,
you should always just shoot your shot. That's like saying
in golf, hey I kicked the ball at the Masters.
Hey you gotta take a chance. Man, Now you go
to the Masters, you don't do that. It's respect for
the game, the course, the heritage.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Young people just they're too entitled and they just think,
why can't I ask? Because it's a turnoff a lot
of the times that you just ask and think you
have the right to ask. The other thing is, so
I did my NFL predictions, I got two more chances,
two more whax before the season starts, and I make
them now, free agencies over, coaching's over, the draft is over.
(40:22):
But if you go look at my AFC, I'll just
if you're on radio, instead of breaking down the teams,
I'll just tell you here's the quarterbacks in the AFC.
I think when their division, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, c J. Stroud,
and Justin Herbert with Jim Harbaugh. I also think Mike Vrabel,
Joe Burrow and Andy Reid and Mahomes make it. I'm
(40:44):
picking quarterbacks in the AFC. That's all I'm doing. If
you go to the NFC, it's a little harder. You
don't have as many great quarterbacks. I'm picking Jalen Hurts
in the best O line in a decade, Jared Goff
and the second best offensive line in the sport, Baker
Mayfield and Matt Stafford. And then I'm taking Jayden Daniels,
Sam Donald, I think Seattle's defense is gonna be really good,
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and Caleb Williams. Now Now, I'm not taking Jordan Love,
who's obviously talented. You know, I'm not taking Dak Prescott,
who a lot of you like. But by and large,
I'm taking Baker to win over Michael Pennix because I
know what I have with Baker, and I liked what
Tampa did in the draft. But when when I make predictions,
it's not ten fifteen years ago. I'm basically taking the
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best quarterback. And if you have I believe a B
to a B plus or up coach, it's hard not
to take you to win your division because the league
is built like that, and they.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Put you on the spot. NFC West ranked the quarterbacks. Yeah,
I'll tell you the four.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
Stafford, Donald, Kyler, and brock Perty rank them.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
You just did stop it.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
You don't think Sam Donald's better than brock Purty, do you?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, come on, college, but you're stronger, better, our moves better.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
You think brock Perty would have put up those numbers.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
In Minnesota with Kevin O'Connell and Justin Jefferson. Of course
he would have. Wait, you're being serious now we're having
some quarterback tension on the set today.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Darnald is a bigger out over. Darnald doesn't struggle when
it's overcast.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Oh here we go, here we go. Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
The minute Darnald got a functional operation, not even a
great team, he put up unbelievable number.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
The Viking has already been a great team. They were
just functional.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
The minute he's out of Carolina and the Jets and
he can get a functional.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
You gonna have to say negative stuff. The minute he
has an important game late in the season, he folds
like a cheap table.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Because Minnesota's roster ross sort of like when Brock's roster
ended up being less than because of injuries.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
It'll lose it, not.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Wait, whoa whoa whoa. Minnesota was healthy at the end
of the season.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Why doesn't The roster wasn't great. Their old line was old.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
They went fourteen games. Don't tell me it was all Donald.
Oh my gosh, coward, you're on one today.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
Huh wow.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
These are some takes.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Sometimes the truth is a bit painful.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
Hot take cap the Hour on Tuesday.
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No, that's that's hour three. I still got mourning on baby.
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Speaker 4 (00:37):
Of your day.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I actually defended Jason Tatum last hour and if you
did not catch it, my take is before I get
to my NFL predictions and Nick Wright, if the Celtics
culture is so paralyzed by threes now and it's a
very strong culture from Danny Ainge, Udoka, Missoula, Brad Stevens
and Tatum is such a collaborative player. Instead of beating
(01:00):
people off the dribble, which he could, he gets very
much into a Hey, I'm gonna stay be part of
the team.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I'm gonna take threes.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And I thought last night was a prime example of
sometimes even Phil Jackson, the zen Master with a triangle,
I'm gonna let Michael and Kobe.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Impose their will. They're gonna do what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Lawrence Taylor, line up where you gotta line up, make
plays happen. I think sometimes Tatum, who can beat almost
everybody in this league on the wing, off the dribble,
settles because he's collaborative.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
We have threes.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
The Celtics are last in the NBA and free throws
and third worst in layups, and they just stick to threes.
And when they have these bad nights shooting them. Warriors
used to have these, they just keep shooting them. And
I'm like, no, Tatum, get open, get me buckets. I
don't care where they're at. Eight straight possessions. Impose your will.
But again, collaborative, smart, great kid, duke kid, I'm gonna
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be part of the team. We shoot threes here.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I don't like it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So I do this times before the start of a season,
when there's coaching changes and free agencies done, I give
an NFL prediction. Then after the draft, yes, drafts matter,
I make another prediction. Then after camp or during camps,
I'll make a prediction. And then right before the season,
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the Thursday of the season, I make my final prediction.
So I've got a lot of changes, but most at
the bottom of divisions. So let's start with the AFC,
so the easiest. I would bet my car on this one.
Bills win it. Dominant quarterback, not close, and well coached. Patriots.
I've said this, they will be the Washington of the NFL.
(02:41):
I predicted Washington and Denver would be the most improved teams.
I'm predicting the Patriots will be the most improved team.
Drake may actually has a coach and they've made major upgrades.
Oh and d line. Dolphins aren't good. They're going backwards,
but I'll take them over the Jets, where I.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Don't like anything all right. Next up the AFC North.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Even if Aaron Rodgers shows up, they're not beating the
Ravens or Bengals. Browns I think are looking for a
quarterback Ars Manning in next year's draft. I like their GM,
Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski don't like ownership. I feel
pretty good about this AFC South. I'm gonna make a change.
I think the Texans win it going away, and the
Titans are a wild card team. I will take the
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Jaguars third and all move the Colts.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Down to fourth.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I don't know who's playing quarterback for the Colts. My
guess is Daniel Jones wins eventually. But the Jaguars, to
their talent credit, got the best player in the draft
in Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
He will make an impact.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
They upgraded their offensive line significantly, so again it's not much,
but I'll take the Jaguars third and the Colts fourth,
and in the AFC West, I feel the same way.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
It's inches, not feet.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I think the Chargers embodied empowered their run game and
they're going to be a ball control offense with two
great tackles, a great coach, a great quarterback, and two
excellent running backs. They also upgraded it end. I think
they're gonna be not as much sizzle as you may want,
but they're just gonna ground teams.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It'll be classic Jim Harbaugh. Year two.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You will be looking at a team that is completely
different than they were two years ago. She's still win
ten to eleven, maybe twelve, but they've been a second
Broncos and Raiders.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Didn't love the Broncos draft.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So my AFC playoff predictions Bill's Ravens, Texans, Chargers, Patriots,
Bengals are new in chiefs. We go to the NFC now,
where I do have more changes. Eagles commander's going away.
I'm gonna put the Giants at third and the Cowboys
at four. I thought the Giants actually got impact guys
in the draft. I thought Skataboo the running back, will
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absolutely make an impact and Abduall Carter hate that he's
asking for Lawrence Taylor's jersey, but he's gonna be an
impact guy.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
They've already got a good d line. It'll be even better.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Cowboys hiring Brian Schottenneimer big mistake, Barry dak Reliant. I
go Cowboys in the cellar. Next up, NFC North. I'm
keeping at the same I think the Bears eke into
the playoffs. I think Jordan Love I like. I think
they're worried about him. That's why I went a receiver
in the first round. They're not quite sure they can
trust Christian Watson's health. They're going to make this Jordan
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Love thing work. So they had a couple of other
needs defensively, and they went wide receiver again. Vikings will
be a very good fourth place team. I think letting
Sam Darnold go, I think they may regret it all right,
I have another change. I'm gonna move Tampa from second
to first to win their division. I like their draft.
I always liked their drafts. I did not like the
Atlanta Falcons draft. And I don't know what Michael Pennix is.
(05:34):
By the way, I thought a Mecca and Buka to
that receiving corps and that offense. He will be an
eighty catch guy potentially as a rookie. I think he
Every GM I talked to when I said, did anybody
reach for a Mecca, They're like, no, that guy could
have been the fifth pick, and it's a smart pick.
He will deliver. Get day one, Bryce Young's improved Saints,
(05:55):
They're done and finally, yeah, you can see it. I
think the Rams are gonna win it. I think Seattle's defense.
I thought Seattle had the best draft in the NFL.
I thought Arizona and Cleveland had the second best draft.
Arizona's defense is gonna.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Be a handful. Their offense is fine.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Also, Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray now go to a
second year together.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
That matters.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I don't like what I see with the Niners. I
did not like their draft at all. I think when
you look at the Niners draft, I see Kyle Shanahan
taking some reaches here to help him and not the
future he wants to win.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Now, I didn't like the Niners draft at all.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'm not saying they're a five win team, but I
think Arizona can win ten to eleven games. So my
playoff picture in the NFC Eagles, Lions, Bucks, Rams, Commanders, Bears, Seahawks.
Nick right, First things first, Yeah, he's not gonna be happy,
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by the way.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
This is so bad.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
It's just can I do you realize what you did there?
You did two things there?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
What hi, Colin?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
One is you have seven of the eight division winners
from last year winning their division again, with the one
exception being a team whose quarterback has won the division
every year of his career is and this is not
a misquote, is a career thirty five and five against
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divisional opponents. That's the first thing you did that I
think you're gonna want back. The second thing you did
was more indirect, but from listening to your own words,
you have the Arizona Cardinals, the New England Patriots, and
the Kansas City Chiefs all winning the same amount of games.
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That doesn't feel dumb to you. I hate to use
that word, but doesn't just on its face, that feel like,
you know what, Maybe I need to recalibrate this one,
just a touch, just a touch. If I have the
Chiefs in the same bucket as the Cardinals and the Patriots. Okay,
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just an idea.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Okay, well, I'll give it some thought. I've still got.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Two more you know, Yeah, go exactly. I mean, when
you put it that way, it is fairly agreed. Yeah
it is.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And everyone else, oh god knows, you can't ye. Every
other division winners earned the bind for the doubt, except
for a team that won seventeen games last year and
has been to three straight Super Bowls. But they looked
bad in the Super Bowl. How the Chargers look in
their Super Bowl, which is called the wild card round
When you're golden boy, Herbert threw more picks than he
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did all year. But never mind, is fine?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Whatever, Okay, so this must have some fun. So I
defended Tatum. This was an easy day for my brand,
the Covenant Burion. But I said that the Celtics are
a little like the Warriors. They're paralyzed by the three
point shot. At least The Warriors in their prime had
like a different player, Draymond Green, and they and he
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could sometimes be the catalyst, and even though it was
small ball, they can have kind of a different look sometimes.
Tatum is such a good guy and so collaborative, and
he's got great handles.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
He's six 's eight.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He could beat anybody in the league, including Michale Bridges
to the basket. But I find their culture is so
overwhelmingly shoot a three that a couple of times he
beat guys off the dribble and he backed out and
shot a bad, off balance three, and I thought he's
such a good guy that he's not going to impose
his will.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
He's taking three pointers.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
This team was last in the league in free throws,
third last in layups. They play one way, and I
think Tatum's too gifted to say this is what you've
got to be offensively. I think I'll giving him a
little pass that some of this is this paralyzation in Boston.
If you can only score one way.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Well, listen, it might end up being smart. They won
the championship doing it last year. Last night they missed
forty five threes and they're still in overtime and so
I don't stylistically, I don't enjoy it as much as
I watch different watch as much as I enjoy watching
different styles of play, and I would hate it if
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the entire league moves to that so much so that
I would think the league might need to adjust how
it does three pointers, similar to how Baseball made adjustments,
just because I don't think it's as good of a
viewing experience. In regards to Tatum, listen, Tatum is gonna
have nights like this in the playoffs. We know that
he's also gonna have stretches like he had at the
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end of last series, where he's scoring thirty five every
single night those final three games. I have one real
gripe with Tatum last night. Guys are gonna miss shots.
It happened. I thought the final possession of regulation he
let the knicks off the hook in a tie game.
The fact that he was just content to dribble, you know,
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dribble out the shot clock essentially and then take a
tough three, I thought was a mistake. I think that
in that setting where you're not going to be able
to hold for the last shot because there was a
four or five second differential, I think that's the one
right there. I just think you can get a better
look for yourself, yeah, or a teammate, yes, And spec like,
I don't think you should ever treat a possession with
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fifteen seconds left in a tie game the exact way
you would treat it if you're trailing by two, And
that's to me what he did. So I thought that
was a mistake. But I do like, like, this is
where this is where you're great. Tatum might score thirty
eight in Game two and that'll be the day you're like, listen,
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he's really good, but he's not great. And then he
had a terrible game and they let me let him
off the hook. He's too nice, too nice of a guy,
And so I also didn't love. Can I say something
about the Knicks or we moving on?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No, I don't think they're gonna win another game in
the series, but you go ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
So they might not. The flip side is if they
can get one more, they guarantee themselves a Game six
at Madison Square Garden, which will be the biggest basketball
game played in that arena professional game this century. It
will be the biggest Knicks game at home since the
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run to the finals in ninety nine. But here's what
is so exciting for the Knicks about stealing that win yesterday.
They built an entire team colin around this series. They
every move they made in the offseat. They traded for
og so they had someone to could guard Tatum and Brown.
They traded for Michale Bridges so they had someone could
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guard Tatum and Brown. They then broke up the Villanova
Corp before they even let them all play together, after
getting m Kale to move off Julius Randall to bring
in Karl Anthony Towns, with the idea being, you guys
have five quality to great starters in Boston, we're gonna
have the same thing in New York. All of it
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is they built an entire team with just the Celtics
in mind, similar to how the Rockets used to build
their team with the Warriors in mind. That's the team
we have to get through. And now, after getting annihilated
the first three times they played in the regular season,
they played them at the end of the regular season,
went to overtime and they lost. They played them last night,
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he went to overtime and they won. It would be
so disastrous for the Knicks to get run off the
court in this series, the way Vegas thought they would,
the way I think you and I both probably thought
they would, stealing that first game and now putting real
pressure on Boston that Boston's got to feel like we
need to win the next three or else we are
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guaranteeing that this is going at least six to MSG.
And so I thought it was an awesome win for
a team that built their entire roster with this one
series in mind.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So before I get to the Warriors, I want to
talk Lakers for a second. You had a very interesting take,
and I gave you credit for this yesterday. I thought
it was I think Balmani and you both had something
similar where you talked about if you go back to
JJ Reddick at Duke never won a title, had his
worst game a most in March in a pressurized situation,
was a great shoot at a terrible game. And so
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I watched your rant, and then I went to his
NBA career stats playoff.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
In regular season the same thing.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Never hit a big shot in the playoffs of note,
It's like, wow, he was significantly less of a player.
And then you watch him coaching, and I thought he
got worked, And I thought to myself, Well, if you
had a short temper as a human being at work,
you probably have it at home. We do carry over
personality traits. He's always been this great looking, really smart,
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really talented guy who clearly puts a ton of self
imposed pressure right like he nobody else it's JJ on JJ,
And I think it was an interesting take that, hey,
maybe maybe you're going to see him coach like he
played a little bit here. And I don't think that's
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a crazy take, is it?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
No, I listen. I think that there are certain guys
who get tight, and I think some people reflexively thought
that it was unfair for me to bring up nineteen
year old JJ Reddick and his performance in the Sweet
sixteen in talking about forty year old JJ Reddick in
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his performance in his first playoffs coaching. But he has
an entire twenty year basketball history of he is at
his worst when the stakes are the highest, and I
think that is purely because he's wound little too tight.
I think you saw it before Game five when he
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was snapping at the reporters for asking totally reasonable questions
where he is actually projecting, where he says to the reporter,
oh are you saying that because I'm inexperienced, when the
reporter said nothing about his lack of experience. I think
that sometimes you are who you are, and the good
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thing about being a coach versus being a player is
if you're a player who gets tight in big moments,
that can physically manifest itself in a way now that
he's not playing, I really think it's like about meditation
and outlook and things he can do to just not
be wound quite so tight, because I do think JJ
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was excellent this year. Obviously he puts the work in,
Obviously he's sharp, But when you have a long track
record of seizing up in the biggest moments, By the way,
it's no anyone that's shocked by another James Harden stinker
in a game seven. That's another guy. Go look at
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his two in CAA tournament games. This has been who
he's been since Arizona State, where he's at his worst
than the best in the biggest moments. Yeah, I think
as a coach he can adjust, but that takes a
self awareness that I think maybe JJ is lacking just
a bit.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So I was saying this earlier, and it goes kind
of counterintuitive of what people would think is I'm a
Dubs fan and I love Staff and everybody does. I
said privately, the minute Adam Silver sign that seventy six
billion dollar deal, it's up to NBCESPN and Amazon to
figure out how to make money on that. He's looking
to the next negotiation and he doesn't want the eight
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best players to be international. He needs a domestic face.
It's not a survival, but it helps. Aaron Judge hit
four hundred. Rob Manford is sleeping very well right now
with the Yank right so, I said, privately, if you
asked Adam Silver, he'd be like, hey, Lebron and Steph
didn't play last night. It was you couldn't keep your
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eyes off the NBA. I want ant to win. I
think privately he is saying Hansome got the Riz Great.
He's knocked out KD. He's knocked out Booker, he's knocked
out uh Luca, he's knocked out Jokic. I think privately
the league wants Minnesota to win. They've squeezed Steph and
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the Warriors, they've squeezed the juice. I think the league
wants Minnesota to advance, and I think it hell.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I think it would be. I think that it would
be better for them long term, for sure. I think
one of the mistakes the league has made from a
programming standpoint is a short term thinking as far as well,
the Lakers and the Warriors get the biggest number, so
put them in the regular season in the prime slots.
And they haven't conditioned into the audience to look at
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Shay as a superstar, to look at you know, hell,
I'll go to Palo Bonco as a future superstar. And
obviously now Ant's gone on these playoff runs to where
he has forced the issue, making the Conference finals last
year and this year knocking out Luke and Lebron. I
also think it doesn't much matter who the league wants
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to win. It's not the David Stern NBA, where we
got a rep we can call in and be like,
hey man, we need eleven foulsand the first quarter on
the Sacramento Kings. Lakers got to keep it moving. But
I regardless of who the league wants to win, I
do not know how anyone could have watched Round one
and feel like the Warriors are in a good position
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in this matter.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I think.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I think they're in huge trouble Colin Minnesota can do
to Golden State what Houston did on the defensive end,
but they've got guys who can score on the offensive end.
And if Steven Adams gave you massive trouble, what about
new and improved Rudy Gobert. And there's the other element
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of Draymond already being on a knife's edge of flagrant
foul and technical accumulation to where he's staring at another
postseason suspension. So this reminds me Colin a ton of
the playoffs two years ago, when the Warriors were in
a brutal seven game series against a young, fun Sacramento
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Kings team. Step in that game seven had fifty you know,
they got through it, and then they were dead on
arrival against the Lakers. Now, again, a lot of NBA
Twitter is pretended that series didn't happen because the new
narrative is this is Steph's era. But the Stephen Lebron
played two years ago in the playoffs, Lakers handled him
pretty quickly. I think a similar thing is gonna happen here.
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I think Minnesota wins tonight. I think Minnesota is the
more rested team, obviously the deeper team. I think they
are the healthier team, and I think they're the better team,
and I think this is a really tough matchup for
Golden State.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
By the way, didn't prep you on this at all,
but I'm gonna throw this out there. You're younger than me,
and so maybe your generation is different. But when guys
say you got to shoot your shot, and I always think, oh,
oh really, So Abdul Carter's like, Hey, I'm gonna ask
to see if I can get Lawrence Taylor's jersey.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
It's like no time out. I think less of you asking.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And I think when guys always say you got to
shoot your shot, well, does that mean if I look
like George Clooney and draw flut jet stream or golf
streams everywhere? I could just hit on your wife, Hey,
you got to shoot your shot.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
There are certain things you do at a basic decency
in the world that you don't do, Like you don't
if I invite you and your wife to a party
and you say, hey, you couldn't find a babysitter, can
I bring my kids? And you tell me this five
minutes before, I'd be like, well okay, but you know
I don't really have a right. So this idea that
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you should just ask Drake May should just ask if
he could wear Brady, or or Abdul Carter should ask
if you can wear Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I am bothered by the ask of it.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
I just a one hundred percent agree. No, Yes, you
are an old man, but you are correct on this,
and you and I are sidebar different generations. One thing
our two generations, though having common colin is neither one
of us should be on television saying the word is so.
I don't know when you added that one to your vernacular,
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but let's put that one back in the drawer. But
on this specific point, you're one hundred percent correct, and
I'm gonna take I'm gonna take it a step further.
You are right that the idea of oh, there's no
harm in asking is just anathema to how human beings work.
Like a go to a job interview and midway through
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it be like by the way unlimited vacation. I figured
i'd ask, like, no, that that's not how adult human
beings work. I am adding something to it though. In
the NFL, when a guy goes to a team and
someone else has the number he wants, normally the ask
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involves and I'll give you one hundred grand or I'll
buy you a car or something like that. I'm even
more bothered that these asks didn't include some signing bonus money,
like a dual card, your number three pick. Like if
you call up Laurence Saylor, like, hey, I want to win.
I want to wear fifty six, and here's a quarter
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of a million dollars, maybe there's a conversation you would
ask if if there was someone on the Giants wearing
the number he wanted, that guy would be offered money.
So if you're gonna ask the greatest defensive player ever
and just ask him to do it as a favor,
that's even worse. But yes, I agree with you. Also,
last point on this, Mitch Schwartz made this. I think
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a few other people haven't. It's smart. It shouldn't even
be if a team has retired a number, that shouldn't
even be allowed. Like even if Lawrence had said yes,
the Giants need to be out in front of this
being like, no, it's a retired number. It's not about Lawrence.
We retired it. You can't have it because we're not unretiring.
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That way, you take the onus off Lawrence Taylor and
Phil Simms's family. But yeah, I didn't like the ass either.
I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
One last thing.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
You do realize why I use RIZ. I don't because
I stand on business.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Okay, See this is I don't know. I don't know
why this is become a thing. But you maybe you're
maybe you've gotten to a point to where it's like
the circle is completed, so you can just say anything
and it's like it's not cringe, it's just charm. But
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I'm telling you right now, I don't need Colin Goward
talking about RIZ or standing on business. I don't need it.
Maybe the audience does.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
All right, Yeah, boy, that really gets me all worked
up about just asking. I said, I if you work
at Fox and it's your first week, Hey, do you
mind if I park in the CEO's parking spot? Hey
you gotta shoot your shot? Yeah, you know, let me
take that application. We'll be hiring somebody else. There are
certain questions and certain things you just don't do. You
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don't get Tom Cruise's parking spot at Paramount or whoever's
making his movies. Don't ask you haven't you haven't even
earned the ask forget the jersey.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
You haven't earned the ask and that's standing on business
and we're back after this.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
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Speaker 1 (25:57):
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Speaker 4 (26:03):
When is that again? Is that Wednesday?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Eight days?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Is it next Wednesday? Can we move it up?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Why?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I had some one of my favorite nights of the year.
I'm sitting there watching the night. You know, I wanted
to go. I have a bunch of stuff to do today.
I think today's a cigar buying night. I'm not going
to smoke any Last night I didn't have time. I
had to watch the games. I had to break the
stuff down.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
You can't smoke a cigar and watch basketball at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I don't have an outdoor space right now, you know whatever.
So I do in other places, but not here. So
right now I'm just tonight I'll be I'll buy a cigar,
but I don't have a place to smoke a cigar
unless I rearrange stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I don't want to know.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Are you like to buy it from seven to eleven?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Or are you going, I got my I got my place.
I'm not gonna. I'm listen. It's la. It's hard to
buy a cigar in half the town.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
There's smoke shops on every quarter or not not not oh,
not that kind of smoke.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Well, not at the beach. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
The regulations in this town are loon tubes. J Mack
with the news.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
No, no, no, this is the Herdline News.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
All right, let's start with the best football team in
New York and that's Buffalo Billy b I'm sorry Brandon
being the GM. Remember he was upset with some local
radio meatballs a few weeks ago after they went after
him for not drafting a receiver. Well, the Bills just
signed Elijah Moore FORBD jet receiver.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Underwhelmed he was okay in.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Cleveland, Okay, And you know he's a number four number, Yeah,
he's a number three or four.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Yeah, he's a rotational guy. He's fired up about a
chance in Buffalo.
Speaker 8 (27:36):
For me, it's more like my whole career, I haven't
really had, you know, too many great opportunities with a
stable quarterback the entire season. I just feel like having,
you know, being blessed with opportunity to god willing have
seventeen for the entire season. The MVP at that a
top tier caliber player, top two caliber team, top two
caliber coaches.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Putting you in position.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
I feel like it was just me the best I
haven't put in yet.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah, I think he'll do fine.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Thing. Anybody that plays with Josh Allen, if they work
hard and are coachable, will flourish, like playing with Lamar
Mahoalmes or Stafford. You can find a lot of guys
off the street that can play. I mean they put
Juju Smith. Schuster was toast in New England. He went
to Kansas City in the Super Bowl. They're targeting him
nine times. The quarterback leads the receiver.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
I kind of know how he feels, because you know
when he started his career, who was this Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Awful in New York.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I feel bad for I've said this before. It's not
just quarterbacks where you lent an other certain positions like
running back you could eat. You're either good or you're not.
Like Jamir Gibbs is better with Detroit.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
So what he would be in Barkley in New York
was okay, well not amazing, And then he goes to
the Eagles and oh.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
But he was viewed in the league as really good.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Yeah, he's elite.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Now.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Yeah, when I started my career, I did a TV
show with a guy who is just the worst.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Human being out. I was awful.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Now I'm with you, and I feel like Elijah Moore,
Josh Allen, hey man, I got a superstar.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I just I do think quarterbacks lead Puka Nakua is
not putting up these numbers with twenty of the quarterbacks. Now,
maybe he is with Mahomes, but when you have you
with Bryce Young, well yeah, I mean just like McVeigh
and Stafford in the good Old Line to remarkable, how
good you are as a rookie receiver?
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Remember Stafford in Detroit thought of as a kind of
a bust he at.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
He was known as sort of a stat guy.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
But not win the playoffs game in Detroit, and I
was like, is he good? He was the number one pick.
Goes to the Rams and he's like, oh, this is
But like people.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
In the league, the smart guys knew he was good.
He was good.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Yeah, but you go number one overall, you gotta win
some playoffs games.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Collin he had none. Now he should have won in Dallas.
I had money on that. I'm sure you remember it.
Some questionable calls, shall we say? Anyas, Let's move on
to another draft story, and that's Will Johnson, who you
love that in Michigan. Really talented kid. All Americans sell
out of the first round, don't get it?
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Do medical issues?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Arizona steels it.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Yeah, Arizona grabs him in this secon around. He said
that he's about to kill. You're gonna have to pay
for blieb. I promise you. Arizona is getting a dog.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
He was my favorite corner. The knock on him as
he gets hurt a lot, that's a fair knock. But
let me ask you if he played fourteen games a
year for the next for his contract, would you take Yeah?
And also the league now plays zone. Everybody's play zone.
He's a great zone corner. He's not a burner. He's
he could shut down your two if you have a
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Not that many teams are throwing the ball over the
top because there's not that many good old lines. If
I say great O line in the NFL, you'll name
Detroit and Billy you'll know who it is. Because there's
so few great old lines, so that doesn't allow a
lot of quarterbacks to go downtown a lot. And the
other thing is the league's playing zone. That's why Puka
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Nakua comes in.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
He can read the zone. He's open constantly.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
I forgot, do you have Arizona playoff team?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
No? I have, but I have him as a I
think they're gonna be one of the more improved teams
in the league.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
The only problem is the the NFC has that NFC
North where there could be three teams in the in
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I'll just say it now.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
The NFC North is good, but I think in the
building Matt Lafleur was disappointed with Jordan Love at the
end of last year.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
That's why they drafted a receiver because they got to
get this right.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Dinged up a few times.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Right, he did, but he was not and I like him.
He was not as consistent.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
And you can tell people like like in Ben Johnson
in Chicago, you can tell what the Bears are doing
with their draft. They're saying, listen, we need to find
out if Caleb's in. So there's gonna be no excuses.
We have two tight ends, two receivers, two running backs.
There's gonna be no excuses, right, Like, that's the way
to do it. What Chicago's doing is we're not gonna
leave him a little shorthanded and go. I mean, like,
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you knew Justin Herbert even if he wasn't getting to
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
You're like, yet that works.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
You knew it with Josh Allen, you knew it with Lamar,
But with Caleb You're like, there's a lot of people
that just do not like his footwork and do not
think he's patient enough to be a right quarterback. So
I do think what I do think there is value
in finding out if your quarterback is the guy by
year two.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Well here, I don't think this is gonna be it
for Kayleab.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
He's definitely gonna get a third years first year with
Ben Johnson learning curve, I think Bryce Young and Kyler
Murray are the guys to keep an eye on after
this year final story.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Colin is Uh we talked a lot.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
About Shador Sanders falling down draft boards. Well, one of
his receivers at Colorado, a gentleman by the name of
Lejohnte Wester, spoke about Shadour while Wester was at Baltimore's
mini camp.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
He's a rookie. I was disappointed that they did him
like that.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
I know Shador is gonna get in the lab, he's
gonna work hard, and he's gonna win that job in Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Now, obviously he's a little biased.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Knowing Shador, I'll be surprised if he wins the starting
job in Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
That would shock me.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It would surprise me. It wouldn't shock me that that
quarterback room leaves a lot to be desired.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Now, I don't waiting until the fifth rounded draft.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Well that's that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Doesn't that tell you that staff is like not for us?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Well, that's the that's the owner saying that is for us.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
So who runs the show there?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Why did they draft Johnny Manziel? Why did they give
to Shaun a guarantee deal? Why did they draft Shaduur?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Maybe the other not.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Always wait around?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
But he does.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Tough to tell that to a billionaire, But uh yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
So they have here. Do you think Schaduur's starting more
than six games?
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
No, I think it's on six. I shouldn't say that six.
I think it's about six.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
No, shot not, you know, Can I just say this
if you had dropped from the third pick in the
draft of the sixth and I'm asking you, you've dropped
five rounds. It's now like embarrassing. What would your reaction
be if you were drafted? Would it be ultimate excitement
jumping in a pool or kind of like pissed like
(34:04):
Aaron Rodgers. You're gonna pay for that, Will Johnson? What
does Will Johnson say? The league will pay for that mistake?
Shitters like the best day ever. It's like, dude, little
self awareness, But you just got embarrassed for three days
during the draft.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
But even if it doesn't work out for him in Cleveland,
you know what she doer is gonna have a soft landing.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
His family's wealthy. Well, he's got he's got made a
lot of Annie Al's.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
It's just an interesting reaction. I'm not saying it's the
wrong reaction. But Will Johnson's reaction is what great players
players that become great. Will Johnson is mad at the NFL.
Aaron Rodgers was mad. Tom Brady went to Robert Kraft,
the best draft pick you've ever made. Guys that drop
in the draft, the great ones have a mission. They
(34:52):
are gonna play. And every team that passed on them.
They will remember that for the rest of their career.
They're not They're not like overwhelmingly happy. They are resolute
and Okay, all right, I dropped to the fifth see
in camp.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I just think it.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I'm not saying what you Ner did is wrong, but
I think if I fell that far, I would.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Be so angry.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, so so absolute laser focused on not only winning
that job, winning it in two weeks.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
Well, he might be, but maybe that was him putting
up a front to act like that He's not bothered.
You know, I would do the same, right, Okay with
young young Colin, Like, hey, Matt saying.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
What he did is wrong, I'm saying it's just an
interesting discussion. Oh keeps jumping into pooling that this is
the greatest thing. It's like I would have been so
Will Johnson in your previous story. Is what guys I've
heard in the NFL, Matt, You'd be amazed how often
I talked to a pro somebody in pro sports didn't
know us have to be the athlete, and they're like,
(35:49):
so many of the great players have a chip on
their shoulder. I mean, and I'm talking seventeen years into
their career. They're still mad at the team.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
That passed them.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
By the way, when I hosted for you once time,
Aaron Jones, the running back of the Vikings, is in
here and joined the commercial.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
I'm talking to him and he was still seating about
the Packers moving.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
On to him curious.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Yeah, it's like, dude, I can't believe they did it.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
People always say, people always say in life, don't take
it personal.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Well, it is personal. Yeah. If I dropped to the.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Fifth round and Cleveland passed on me four times, I'm
going to that camp to show Kevin Stefanski and Andrew
Berry you made a massive mistake.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
And then he let him know that.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And by the way, I'm gonna be great. And by
year three, I'm gonna go and say it's time for
a contract early. I'm just saying that's how a lot
of players act. J mcklaman, Well.
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Speaker 1 (38:13):
I got all worked up yesterday and that whole ambual
Carterfick and I know what happened a week ago, but
I saw another story on it a couple of days
ago and it bothered me.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
I do think there.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
I don't like the term shoot your shot, like there
are things you shouldn't ask for. Again, it is should
you if just because you're great looking you maybe you're
very successful and charming, Should you be hitting on married
women you're a creep? Like like way, I'm just gonna
shoot my shot. No, not really, Abdull Carter just asking
(38:48):
for Lawrence Taylor's jersey. Just the ask to me is
a total non starter and a lack of self awareness.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
And Nick Wright agreed.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
In the NFL, when a guy goes to a team
and someone else has the number he wants, normally the
ask involves and I'll give you one hundred grand or
buy you a car or something like that. I'm even
more bothered that these asks didn't include some signing bonus money,
(39:22):
like a dual card, your number three pick, Like if
you call if Laurence Sailor like, hey, I want to win,
I want to wear fifty six, and here's a quarter
of a million dollars. Maybe there's a conversation, like even
if Lawrence had said, yes, the Giants need to be
out in front of this being like no, it's a
retired number.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yeah, totally agree on this.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
It's just I'm sorry, just the idea that you know,
you should always just shoot your shot. That's like saying
in golf, hey I kicked the ball at the Masters.
Hey you gotta take a chance. Man, Now you go
to the Masters, you don't do that. It's respect for
the game, the course, the heritage.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Young people just they're too entitled and they just think,
why can't I ask? Because it's a turnoff a lot
of the times that you just ask and think you
have the right to ask. The other thing is, so
I did my NFL predictions, I got two more chances,
two more whax before the season starts, and I make
them now, free agencies over, coaching's over, the draft is over.
(40:22):
But if you go look at my AFC, I'll just
if you're on radio, instead of breaking down the teams,
I'll just tell you here's the quarterbacks in the AFC.
I think when their division, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, c J. Stroud,
and Justin Herbert with Jim Harbaugh. I also think Mike Vrabel,
Joe Burrow and Andy Reid and Mahomes make it. I'm
(40:44):
picking quarterbacks in the AFC. That's all I'm doing. If
you go to the NFC, it's a little harder. You
don't have as many great quarterbacks. I'm picking Jalen Hurts
in the best O line in a decade, Jared Goff
and the second best offensive line in the sport, Baker
Mayfield and Matt Stafford. And then I'm taking Jayden Daniels,
Sam Donald, I think Seattle's defense is gonna be really good,
(41:04):
and Caleb Williams. Now Now, I'm not taking Jordan Love,
who's obviously talented. You know, I'm not taking Dak Prescott,
who a lot of you like. But by and large,
I'm taking Baker to win over Michael Pennix because I
know what I have with Baker, and I liked what
Tampa did in the draft. But when when I make predictions,
it's not ten fifteen years ago. I'm basically taking the
(41:27):
best quarterback. And if you have I believe a B
to a B plus or up coach, it's hard not
to take you to win your division because the league
is built like that, and they.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Put you on the spot. NFC West ranked the quarterbacks. Yeah,
I'll tell you the four.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
Stafford, Donald, Kyler, and brock Perty rank them.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
You just did stop it.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
You don't think Sam Donald's better than brock Purty, do you?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, come on, college, but you're stronger, better, our moves better.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
You think brock Perty would have put up those numbers.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
In Minnesota with Kevin O'Connell and Justin Jefferson. Of course
he would have. Wait, you're being serious now we're having
some quarterback tension on the set today.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Darnald is a bigger out over. Darnald doesn't struggle when
it's overcast.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Oh here we go, here we go. Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
The minute Darnald got a functional operation, not even a
great team, he put up unbelievable number.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
The Viking has already been a great team. They were
just functional.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
The minute he's out of Carolina and the Jets and
he can get a functional.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
You gonna have to say negative stuff. The minute he
has an important game late in the season, he folds
like a cheap table.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Because Minnesota's roster ross sort of like when Brock's roster
ended up being less than because of injuries.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
It'll lose it, not.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Wait, whoa whoa whoa. Minnesota was healthy at the end
of the season.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Why doesn't The roster wasn't great. Their old line was old.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
They went fourteen games. Don't tell me it was all Donald.
Oh my gosh, coward, you're on one today.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
Huh wow.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
These are some takes.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Sometimes the truth is a bit painful.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
Hot take cap the Hour on Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
No, that's that's hour three. I still got mourning on baby.
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