February 18, 2025 • 41 mins
Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox fill in for The Herd and debate the best case scenario at quarterback for the Steelers. NFL insider, Pete Prisco tells you QB’s he’d take over Jalen Hurts. Steph defends kids shooting the 3, Mike Trout changes positions and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hello, there, it's The Herd on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for Colin here
on this Tuesday morning. Hey you guys, feeling man, you
feel in an hour or two of this. You sound refreshed.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I feel really good talking about it. You sound good too,
Jones sound good. We were just sogging about it.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
You know, we're kind of on the same timeframe as
you right now, that East Coast time.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
I'm at a fog, but where we're we're like everyone's
just there's just someone's got something, everyone's getting sick. People
are sneezing, coughing on each other. It's just I feel
like you're in a battle every day, you know. I'm
sure we're just trying to get through. That's yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I mean, did you get did the weekend get a
little better or I know it was.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
I've got like a cold now, so I'm trying to
work through that, which I'm pretty much trying to do
every homeopathic remedy possible.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
What are you using, like, like, oh, you guys ever
take those ginger shots? Yeah? Like the orange Yes, yeah,
they're really good too.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I don't know if you're supposed to take as many
of I'm taken each day, but I'm taking like four
or five a days.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Take too many? It's natural. Yeah, that's that's what I
was thinking. I'm take too many. Those would be fine.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
A bunch of vitamins, I mean, probably more vitamin C
than anyone's taking their life.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
Like.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, just trying to just trying to get healthy. That's
all good. I mean that's one way to do it,
for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
What's the other way? Chola said he takes a lot
of Vitamin D. Yeah, I do, which I don't. I mean,
you're still well. I mean what might have beende.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I'm all about comfort and so you know, I go
with what makes me feel comfortable and that. I mean
you could also get on the echo bike. You can
get on the Echo bike and just kind of sweat
that bad boy out.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
You know, you know, I go into the stamingroom when
I when I don't feel good, Man, I just try
to sweat everything out.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Of the steam room too. That's still ain't working either,
it's not working. You can stay in there though, how
long twenty minutes?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, you gotta go to like forty.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I stay in that bad boy for like what your mommy, yourself,
you dehydrate that s right on that you'll come out
and look.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yourself, is what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
No, no, you don't kill yourself at that at that
amount of time. That's like the time to do it.
Like get the thirty five forty minutes, I'm telling you.
And I wear a sweatsuit on top of that, which
socks on my hands and my feet. I mean at
one twenty first for everything? You know what you mean?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Man?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Is that sheep pink? Yeah? Interesting? All right? That nothing
is like like a different shot. I mean it was
a it was a Valentine's Day this pace.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It was okay, let's get on track, let's go definitely,
let's all right, so we are going to transition here smoothly.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I'm glad you feel better. Cue.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, I think keep fighting a good fight. Than appreciate it, guys, Okay,
I appreciate your support. You're going for forty minutes.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
If you gyn't talk to you tomorrow, it's probably what Brady.
You can't take notice is thanks Var, that's all going
to saill that.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
No, don't do that. That's what I do. And like
Brooks was here, I take the ice water in there too.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Let's make sure you have some water and you're hydrating
while you're in there.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
How the hell do you taking ice water? No, you
take your Stanley in there. You take a Stanley in there, and.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Don't those things explode. No, though you're good, I'm telling
us stanleys were exploding.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Mine's never minds. Mine has never exploded.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Like he would walk into that sauna literally like in
the steam room like the face of Big Noon kickoff,
and he would come out like cocoon, like you're trying
to kill the guy. Forty minutes is way too long.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm looking up right now.
I'm telling you somebody somebody told me, a guru told
me that before.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I mean, you know, I'm a PhD guy myself, and
I don't know about.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Are you yeah? Man? All right, sixty new ones. All right.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So we move over to this where there was a
rumor that was floated out there that the Pittsburgh Steelers
had reached out to the Jacksonville Jaguars about the potential
of trading for Trevor Lawrence. Jacksonville, of course, was contacted
about that. They pushed back on the report. Well, Trevor
Lawrence himself was smearing it up with Kay Adams on
(05:02):
up in Adams yesterday and was asked specifically about the
Pittsburgh Steelers interest and had this to say.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
I didn't really see anything. My agent texted me and was, hey,
this is a and then of course I saw it
after he text me and said, hey, this is a
report's out there. I don't think there's anything to it,
but I'll check into it. So I saw it and
it's funny though when he sent it to me, I
was like, you know, I wouldn't say your heart drops
what you're kind of like what I could think. And
then I'm thinking about like, well, I can't even get
I have no trade calls in my in my contract,
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so I wouldn't know about it if I was getting
if I was getting traded or if that was something
that was going to happen, you know, I'd have to
be on board with it, so which I'm not. I'm
happy here in Jacksonville. I plan on. You know, we
want to win a super Bowl here and you know,
I think I think we can do that.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Take that bar all right, take that good.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
You were trying to get him released?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Cut all I'm saying into the league, there's no reason
for I mean, and a player can speak for themselves, right,
the player can speak for themselves. But you didn't hear
that from from Shat Khan or any of the executives
at Well, yeah you did, because they did come out
and say that I absolutely weren't going to trade them.
But no, no one is off limits, no one. And
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this Jacksonville Jaguars team is a struggling team for for
a little while now, even on his watch, and again
he has not established that he is a bona fide
franchise quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'll stand on that.
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So if you're not, if you if you're going into
what is this year four? Is this year four? Yea, yeah,
yere okay, you're going into year four and you you
had one moment in time that was a shining moment
where you were like, here we go, this is the
Trevor Lawrence air.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
It's about to pop off. Here we go.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And then nothing after that that was like almost like,
oh wait, that was the curtain call. That that was it.
That was that was the height of the height. I
don't know if that's what it is, but I know
that five actually year five? Okay, all right, this is
what I do know because he did, dude, the big
deal what last year right or the year before? Anyway,
the bottom line is he has not definitively shown that
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you're going in the right direction. He is the future
of this franchise. He is the president of this franchise.
He hasn't really solidified that. So if you could get
some if you could get some real value and not
having Trevor Lawrence on your roster, it's not off limits.
I don't think it's off limits at all. I mean,
he's done more than Pickett. But look at where Picket
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ended up, and he was a draft pick. They thought
that he was going to be a guy. I mean,
not as highly latted as as Trevor Lawrence coming out,
but he's not even in the place where he started.
And if you don't think that they if they could
find a quarterback that could do a better job for them.
If this coach, especially when you get new coaches involved,
you run the risk of not being that coach's guy.
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And he's got to take a look at what it
is he has to do and what that represents to
him and his team. And do I want to take
look at what happened to Aaron Rodgers. They don't want him,
they didn't want him. You got to take a look
at it. You got to value it, you got to
assess it. And I don't think that Trevor Lawrence is
off off like. I don't think he's non touchable. I
don't think he's an untouchable.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, but they just paid him.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I don't care. I don't think he's going anywhere. I mean,
he's not. It doesn't seem like he is.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
This is more of if I'm a Pittsburgh Steelers fan.
This is a team saying like we're trying to leave
no stone unturned. We're calling all these teams up who've
got guys who are franchise quarterbacks, and that for many
of the reasons that LeVar just stated, maybe there's they
have some questions about whether or not he is the guy,
even though they paid him. So let's give them a call.
Which that's what you should do. Like if if you've
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got a spot, you've got a problem at any position,
let alone the quarterback spot, you should be calling every
team possible. So I have a problem with this. I mean,
it's again, this stuff happens this time of year, the
no trade clauses. What's kind of comical about this for
Trevor Lawrence because people run with these sorts of narratives.
It's why you know it came from someone in Pittsburgh,
(09:08):
because someone in Jacksonville goes, well, first off, Jacksonville's not
trading him, and then second he's got no trade clause,
so he'd have to prove whatever trade even if they
tried to trade him what was going on. So like
this theoretically doesn't work, but for clicks, sure, Yeah, well
let's just throw it out there on the home screen
or you know, the website, and let's let's se how
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many people can drive traffic there to listen to us
talk about this conversation.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
The Steelers a quarterback got they got some problems. If
Russell Wilson is gone, you're looking at Justin Fields, maybe
Aaron Rodgers, who has said that he wants to play.
But it just feels like there's no there's no fix
this offseason that, in my mind, is going to close
the gap between them Baltimore and Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Aaron Rodgers, Justin Field, Russell Wilson, Trevor Lawrence. What's your
best case scenario? Who? Who is your best case scenario
to get if that's your choice is Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
But it's not happening. I mean, who are we picking from?
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I mean the ones that I would say are are
on their list, right, we would say that they reached
out about Trevor Lawrence. So Trevor Lawrence Russ isn't gone yet, right,
they haven't made that acasion.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
I always feel like continuity is better than anything else,
Like you like you build from there, And I.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Truly believe this.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Anyone who watched the Steelers with you, I'm going with
pop with this. But like they need more help on
the outside, Like they need more help on that roster
if they can't get Pickings to act like a number
one like he can be Like if he's too inconsistent
at times, and when I'm watching, I'm like, man, there
he is, like there's that guy, there's that number one.
(10:53):
And then other times they doesn't feel like he's interested
in playing at all. It's it's it's bizarre, but they
need more firepower in a division that's got firepower pretty
much everywhere in Baltimore, everywhere in Cincinnati, or at least
I assume it's gonna be everywhere in Cincinnati. You know,
you can even make the case with the talent that's
on Cleveland. They still got a lot of talent too.
(11:14):
So this is a roster that when you compare it
to the rest of the division, offensively speaking, it doesn't
have as much firepower as everyone else, and so they
need more there to go with, whether it's Justin Fields
Russell Wilson, Like, I'm a bigger believer in one of
those two guys seeing this thing before it as opposed
to bring in someone else new it again to try
to learn Arthur Smith's offense.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Think you got to go with Russell Wilson. I think
he's your best option.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
And I know people will say, well, you have more
of a runway with Justin Fields. I just felt like
we saw what we're going to see from Justin Fields.
I'm sorry, I feel like the verdict is in on
Justin Fields, and I'm just being honest, and yes, if
you give him more weapons, you give him more options
and opportunities. Maybe I'm proving wrong, maybe he's a different player,
(11:59):
but I just felt like we hit a ceiling with
with what you're able to do within that offensive scheme
with Justin Fields. Move him around, get a couple he's looking,
he's looking to run the ball. He wants to run
the ball. You're not gonna win just trying to run
the ball. It's just not It's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
You gotta be able to deliver the ball.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
And he had a couple of good games, but I
just never saw him take the top off, and it's like,
there it is. There's the game you're looking for. There,
that's what they need. And that was to me, what
gave way for Russell Wilson to get the opportunity to
continue to play or to re enter the fold of
playing in Pittsburgh. And he did well enough. He fell
(12:44):
off the cliff too. I mean, I don't feel like
he finished out strong. They didn't finish out strong, but
I think a lot of that had to do with
what c was talking about on the outside, the lack
of weapons. And you also had a defense that I'll
continue to say is not as domin in a defense
as it has been in the past. And that has
always been a staple of these these teams in Pittsburgh
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is their defenses are going to carry a load, a
very heavy load, and you don't have that. So I
don't think Trevor Lawrence is the answer. I think you
put Trevor Lawrences just safe for the sake of saying
it did happen. I think you put Trevor Lawrence in
an even bigger, even bigger situation of catching an l
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than what he even has in Jacksonville, because I think
it's bad for him in Jacksonville. I don't see it
improving in Jacksonville. That's just my take on it. You
take him out of there and you put them in
a market like Pittsburgh where they're expecting more, I think
you put them in an even worse situation because I
don't know that Trevor Lawrence is the type of quarterback
that you bring in and he changes the fortunes of
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your organization. I don't see that. I don't see I
haven't seen that out of him. Go with Russ I
we'll see.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
They're gonna go with Justin Phield. I mean, if you're
if you're Permanny Brothers, you better hope they do. I mean,
you get to change your sandwiches, man, like you know,
people love for Manny's. They've been a staple. They deliver.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
What up pee man?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
All right, it is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin coming
up next here though, we're going to talk to a
man who managed to do the impossible. He pissed off
a fan base who's got nothing to be pissed off about.
And that's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
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Speaker 4 (14:40):
It's the Herd Fox Sports Radio. It's fools, young, cool,
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Speaker 3 (14:52):
LaVar Arrington was Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox In for Colin.
We are going to be catching up with pe Prisco
coming up peer momentarily hoping to catch up with Pete
from our good buddy every single Tuesday morning air from
CBS Sports. Pete, by the way, pissed off the Eagles
(15:12):
fan base. I mean they should be happy, do well.
They did this thing where they were saying, take your
pick for the next five years, and they threw up
a bunch of different quarterbacks and he took a lot
of them over Jalen Hurts. And you know, I think
they were they were very bothered by that that he
would be taking those quarterbacks over Jalen Hurts, even after
(15:34):
winning a super Bowl. And so you know, of course
the Eagles fans got a hold of that. And they
can't just be happy because even when they are happy,
they're you know, punching police horses when they win titles.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
So they hats like that. But just how they are
man like.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I was only a few of them that do craziness
like that. Man Usually there's a few represent the entire
you know, fan base. It's a really really dope fan base.
It's a loud minority then very it is a very
loud minority. You know, that's not minorities. Don't go down
that line. Not all right, everybody out there that that
don't take that the way that is sounded. There's a
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there's a small group of people that that represent the
Philadelphia Eagles fan base incorrectly.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
That's all. I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
You guy fan base has that you guys play there?
Do you deal with it at all?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Absolutely, they're horrible.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I was on i R, I was in Philly when
it happened, but uh yeah, I mean they were pretty
pretty nasty fan base. So that was like, it's like
two thousand and eight, and so I'm pretty sure they
waxed us pretty good.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
So you, I mean, you really can't say anything at
that point, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
So, uh so, Pete's been been dealing with the repercussions
of of what happened with the Eagles fan base. So
hopefully we'll be catching up with Pete here coming up.
Just a couple of moments from now uh lead to
lap Is efforting, uh trying to line up peace.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Just a classic case of not telling Pete that we're
at a different time.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Slow.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
It looks like there's a whole lot going on back there.
I don't think this one is in Lee's hands. Yeah,
it's technical difficulty.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Is that it is. So if I reach out to
Pe right now, he'll respond.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Oh yeah, every time I see cars, like, you know,
I always put the face to to the situation when
I'm talking to cares because usually I'm on the phone
with cares. But when I get to see them, it's
interesting because I get to put the facial expressions in
the body language to to what I hear when I'm
on the phone with them, and it totally matches. Totally matches.
(17:32):
Dude is a genius though, man like he pulls things together.
So they're back there, they're just doing that genius stuff. Que,
that's all. That's That's what we're trying to pull together.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I do think though, that Pete loves the interaction though
with people.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
When it comes to.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
That people, we're so like, you know, I don't want
to say confrontational. That sounds a little aggressive, but maybe
like maybe accepts the adversarial role of of how he
interacts with people sometimes.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Oh yeah, loves to mix it up.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
After I met him in person, then I realized why
he likes to mix it up so much.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
He's feisty. Feisty. I mean when you.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Have shoulders as broad as as Pete priscoes, it makes
all and that tan holy.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, well I still can't get over the story he
told us about the Super Bowl in San Diego, where
was at least Steinberg had the super Bowl party at
the San Diego Zoo.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Like what, yeah, I do remember that? What is that
Lee goes all out for his parties? Man at the zoo? Yeah,
you think that's a good idea? Oh yeah, somebody throwing
it a g and T at a giraffe.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Not throwing a g and T.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
That seems like a terrible idea.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
You have him in a restricted area.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Listen, we were in New Orleans. We saw how you know,
the media gets after it, especially on that Thursday night.
I don't think we would be trusted near the Flamingo exhibit.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Really.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, I don't think that a good idea at the zoo.
But you know that was a that was Diego Zoo
is dope. It is awesome, it's fun.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
I like the zoo hair in my life too, Yeah,
I bet yeah, But the one in San Diego is
kind of fire man. That's the one where you could
like go on to the jeeps and you go out
there with the h and the giraffe, and the giraffe
was getting close to us this one time, and they
were like, yeah, keep your hands inside. The giraffe is
running up on us, like.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
You know, you know it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, all right, So so we will effort Pete Prisco.
In the meantime, here on the Herd, it is time
for an impromptu edition of a Little Sat on the Herd,
And it's the herd Line News, starring the One Only.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Great two No, it's the herd Line News.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Listen, guys, I'm always ready, all right, I'm always ready.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
See that's what That's what I don't know any roll, Hey,
all right.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
I don't think Brady realizes how long we could go
with this, Like you could just do anything, like we could.
We've got something for me, Oh yeah, right, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Probably some drops in the system. God, I don't even
want to know. And also like it's just kind of
a it's just a cool last name.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
I mean it's to hey, but Brady, it's funny, like
I've gotten so many versions, like I've gotten like to
me too, Lee, to Hay really, I mean, oh yeah,
they people Butcher the time, I.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Could see how too we could confuse them. But like
either to hay or two, there's not really many other
ways you could pronounce that, right.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
I mean, you'd think, but the different versions I've gotten
over the years when I was a kid, we're just
insane from teachers and.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Whoever, try having the last name Knox, you do the math.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
We talked a lot about the NBA new format yesterday
something else that ver the weekend. The three point shot
has come under fire in recent seasons for what many
is saying is ruining the NBA and basketball in general.
And as you were talking earlier, Brady, it's just kind
of contributing to a lack of excitement, physicality from what
we saw in the old days of old the old
(21:15):
school days of the NBA. Steph Curry, the greatest three
point shooterever, over the weekend, opened up about the three
point shot craze and why he's good with young kids
following his lead.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
I love the work that goes into, you know, earning
and deserving that confidence. And that's the message that I
preach all the time is I want everybody to be
inspired if you love basketball, to be able to shoot
and get better and stretch your rings, shoot, you know,
five ten feet outside of the three point line.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Like would love you.
Speaker 9 (21:44):
To be inspired to do that, but you also got
to work at it too, so that they the ruin
and the game thing it. It's just a charge and
a challenge to if you want to do that, then
get in the gym, get your reps in.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
And earn it.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I agree with them, though, I agree all right, How
else is is Steph Curry going to become Steph Curry
if he doesn't develop a skill that fits what he's
bringing to the tape.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I think we've seen that Steph can do it. There's
a lot of people who try to do it. They
can't and that's what's hurting.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Well, nobody's became Michael Jordan, yet a lot of people
tried year in and year out.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Like there's a reason why the Willndas do the high
wire act and nobody else does.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Otherwise you know, there'd be corpses left and right on
the they're the only people that do it. No one
else is a high wire act.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Well, I mean, yeah, they're just not successful. So late.
I don't like that. So I think you just you
don't like remembering anyone else's name that does it? Who
else does it?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Name another high wire act that isn't the willndas All right,
let me type it into the Google machine. It's like
you're gonna be digging because they didn't go well.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
But it's like Steph Curry can do this stuff. The Warriors,
I just do it like a few years back.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Oh, Philip Petite, I mean those are all people who
do it.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Okay, Well, I mean I think the problem is with
the three point shot is that it's all or nothing,
and that's what the NBA's become. It's all threes or
all dunks, and there's nothing in between. And so when
you watch an NBA game, you're just seeing guys jack
up forty forty five fifty threes a game. Teams fifty
three is a game, and it's just it's lost the excitement.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
The craziness about what you're saying is is that that
is the very argument that people use saying that the
teams of the past would not be able to contend
with the teams today because of the amount of points
they're putting up by shooting all of these threes.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Like Zach Edy, for example, in any other era seven
to four, could score, could rebound. You're looking at like,
oh my god, this guy's a top pick in the
draft and he fell to what eleven to Memphis or
something like that, Like there in no other time would
he have fallen that far. And that's why like a
guy like Jimmy Butler or DeMar DeRozan who's got sort
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of an in between game, it's kind of like you're
not really sure where to put them because it just
doesn't match up to anything else. It's it's just a
different creating thing.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Is you get like guys like Towns and and who's
the guy in uh Philly, Big big Dog? And you
get guys like uh Jannis. These guys are like dang
there or Kevin Durant. These guys are like dang there
seven foot or seven foot and they plan like little
Man by the way. And Joel Embiid is one of
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my favorite drops in the system. First of all, it
ain't no bitch. Let's start Parker a good place to
that was That's a good place to start.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
All right.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Wrapping up with this so guys, uh Angels star Mike
Trout to arrive at spring training on Sunday and uh
net with the Angels coaches, and they determined that the
three time MVP would be moving from center field to
right field in an effort to preserve his body and
keep him healthy.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Season.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
Trout, who is now thirty three, said quote, I knew
it was coming. I just want to be on the field.
He's only played in three postseason games in his career.
He's only played in two hundred and sixty six of
his last six hundred and forty eight games of the
last four seasons.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
This is crazy.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
I mean, in reality, this should be a huge story,
right for a guy with trout statutes, But the problem
is he has become so irrelevant and the Angels become
so irrelevant. Nobody the gap is astronomical between them and
the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah, nobody cares about the can he just.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
D like that would be a good start brand.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Like, if you really want to like protect him, why
put him in the field at all? Just let him
dh am I nuts for saying that. No, it's just like, like,
so you can go center to right field, so what
you get less balls hit your way when.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
When healthy, he's one of the best defensive outfield vision.
I get that, but he's never I get that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Never healthy.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Yeah, and so if you feel like fielding is what
hurts you and the best attribute best what a helping
your team arguably is hitting.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
They just let him.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
What if that never crossed it?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
By the way, the Angels, Croud's name was super big,
what like four years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
He was the best player in baseball, like four one
of the great talents that we've seen.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
He was going back and forth with somebody else. Who
was he going back and forth with, like with hitting
home runs and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Rookie Betts was in the discussion as one of the
best players in baseball. Like it's like Bryce Harper the
other one. And then you see Otani and you go,
oh god.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
You know, but I think we were talking maybe yesterday,
but like the fact that they had Otani and Mike
on the same team and they did absolutely nothing. Think
about this, and I brought this up before. Otani is
the DH for the Dodgers. The Dodgers DH should be
the number one starting pitcher for at least twelve to
fifteen teams in base Very true.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
That's how loaded the Dodgers are and the Angels could
be in Kijuana and nobody would care. Like if you
wouldn't know the difference, it's there's no discussion. They're irrelevant
in LA in southern California. Wow, yeah, completely skipped over
by the Padres.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Well, there you go. That's the.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Hell of a job by Greg Twoey there. Thank you
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Speaker 2 (27:20):
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Speaker 3 (27:25):
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Speaker 4 (27:30):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
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Coming up top next hour about twenty minutes from now here,
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big payday, very very soon, and it could impact his
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(29:23):
NFL columnist for CBS Sports CBS Sports HQ Analysts. You
can get him on x at Prisco CBS. Pete, how
we feel on here on Tuesday?
Speaker 12 (29:33):
Are you guys? Is this like a little bit of
a promo promotion for you guys? Have you stepped up.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
To the league?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Is that what this said?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Pete?
Speaker 12 (29:40):
No, man, I'm.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Kidding like little League. It's like little League. We're pinned hitter.
Speaker 12 (29:45):
You know well you struck out three times around?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Oh no, wow, wow say that.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
When we was in New Orleans, Damn, talk your little
as off that stage.
Speaker 12 (29:58):
Before I even got on the stage with you, you
were reminding me about Mike your.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Because there's a phenomenal Tan. You gotta be honest, that
is a very distinctive Tan, Pete. I mean, let's be
clear here. You got broad shoulders, you got a good Tan.
I was giving you all the props in the world.
Now you come on here shooting at me.
Speaker 12 (30:15):
You know, I don't know if you were giving me props,
you could take a.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Shot straight pop.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
It's all good props.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
You're my guy, Pete, since since d C. Come on, man,
we got history.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
You know, a.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Pete, what did Why did you piss off Eagles.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Fans the way that you did?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
What did you do?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Now?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Do what you do?
Speaker 12 (30:36):
Now?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
All these other quarterbacks you would take over Jalen Hurts?
And now the fan base is going after you on
social media. Do you e't to see any of that, Pete?
Speaker 12 (30:43):
Oh yeah, I see it. And I was on a
Philly radio station today and another couple of them have
reached out, and everybody wants to take a shot at me.
And and the question was post to me, which quarterback
would I take over a bunch of different quarterbacks? Would
you take him for the next five years over Jalen
Hurts and a bunch of them? I said yes. And
so now, of course the Philly fans are going nuts.
(31:05):
And and you know, fresh off the Super Bowl, they
can yell and scream all they want, but the reality
is about the last month of the season. They weren't
sitting there raving about their quarterback either I don't care
what they say, or coach Oyeah, he's a good player,
But would I take him over certain quarterbacks in the league.
The answer to that question is.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Not what Herbert okay, number okay?
Speaker 12 (31:28):
Would you take him over Justin Herbert? I wouldn't. MM.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
I'm not going to answer what what? What? What you
guys think?
Speaker 12 (31:35):
Why won't you answer?
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Because I'm just because it's your questions that you answered,
So I was just letting.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You have it. I think Herbert's an interesting one.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Herbert's an interesting one because I think if you're I
think the real question is what Howie Roseman take Justin
Herbert over Jalen Hurts? And I would imagine he would say.
Speaker 12 (31:56):
Yes, dang, well, there's a one was Trevor Lawrence. I said,
look right now, I'd say there there, I'd take. I
have a hard time ticking between the two of them
because the Hurts has played better, but Lawrence is much
more upside in my mind, you know, And so that
was a tough one for me. I got they got
mad about that. Dak Prescott, now Dak Prescott LEDs the
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league in touchdown passes last year.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Stop, you'd take Hurts over him? Right now? Are you serious?
You take Dak over Hurts.
Speaker 12 (32:25):
I don't know if I would.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I don't know would.
Speaker 12 (32:29):
He's by the way, in that little playoff running he
just had a average throwing about two hundred yards passing,
and and and you know the fact numbers that he
holds the ball way too long. His sack numbers. He
has thirty eight sacks on the season, and he threw
like two hundred, which is ties his career hard from
two years ago. And he threw to almost two undred
few passes. It owns the ball too long. He's good.
I see the way I look at it. Guys, you
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could take one through five, and there's now a five
because Jade Daniels is now in that five. The one
through five, those guys are clearly above everybody else. And
then the next group of seven or eight, nine guys
are all kind of lumped in together.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
If you ask me, I'm gonna help us get off
this topic.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Go to another quarterback, one that seems to be disgruntled
with his situation with this franchise.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
And he's a guy that you've been very high on Pete.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
You know you didn't necessarily predict him never won a
Super Bowl yet, but you said he's gonna win multiple's.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That's Joe Burrow.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Do the Bengals get Jamar Chase t Higgins and Trey
Hendrickson all done this offseason? And if they you don't
think they do. How's the long term out look for
Burrow in Cincinnati? Do you think he's gonna eventually get frustrated?
He may end up somewhere else like Carson Palmer.
Speaker 12 (33:47):
Well, look, I think, first off, I'll start with the
first part of it. I think it's going to be
tough to get all three of them done with long
term extensions.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
I guess, okay, real quick, real quick, Why do you
say that? When we look at Philly and Burrow's even
said this, they figure out how to make it work,
So why.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Can't sit You can make it work.
Speaker 12 (34:04):
The question becomes do you do you want to make
it work? And the reason I'm saying, of course those
are good players, but what does that do to the
rest of your roster? Are they any damn good at all?
On defense? And you know Hendrickson is good as you
get Pete.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
No, but we're talking about the Super Bowl champs literally
just did this with multiple players. They have six players
who are making twenty million or more year on their salary.
Speaker 12 (34:27):
Yeah, and then they supplement it by going to get
a guy like Zack Bond and paying them on one
year deal and he becomes a big part of their defense.
And now he goes. Now they got to either pay
him or he leaves. I get it, you can do it, Brady.
That's that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is
if you why not you could tag Higgins and maybe
get a market for him out there and trade them
and get some assets. And then if you want to
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keep Hendrickson and you want to pay Chase, Okay, would
I try and keep all of them. Absolutely, But if
you if the money gets too crazy and you can't,
then I think you have to prior toys where you
to go with it. And you know, if you take
Hendrickson off that defense, what are they are they any good?
They're they're horrible with well, then that they're gonna be
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even worse and that puts even more pressure on Joe
Burrow in that offense. So yeah, I think ideally they
tag Higgins, get a deal done with Chase. Extend Hendrickson
because you know Hendrickson isn't a kid anymore. Either extend
him and then and then come back to to Higgins
and see if you get something done, and if you can't,
then you peddle get some something back for him.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
But what about the second part of the question, though,
do you think it would get to him not going anywhere.
Speaker 12 (35:38):
He's one of the top he's one of the top
four quarters, he's one of the guys. He's an it guy.
You don't get rid. You don't let that go out
of the door. So no, I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
You wouldn't have said that about Palmer during his time
with the Bengals.
Speaker 12 (35:50):
Well, he also suffered a major knee injury at one point.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Remember Burrows had significant injuries like let's not go.
Speaker 12 (35:57):
There, that's true, major that.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
He had a very unique like wrist injury, elbow wrist
like that. Again, it seemed like it took a little
while to work itself out this year.
Speaker 12 (36:09):
Yeah, but he worked it out. South mself out alright.
He threw he had it on the MVP type season.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
But Pete, don't get distracted by it.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
You act like this franchise has ever built ever around
any quarterback?
Speaker 12 (36:19):
Pete, Well, I mean they they built around Boomer back
in the day.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
If you would he say that, if you asked him
when he say that, because I I've heard him talk
otherwise on that, and that's why he was Palmer's gone.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
That's why he said maybe Burrow one day would be.
Speaker 12 (36:36):
But I think the old reputation of the Bengals is
a little misguided now used to be just don't get
me wrong. I'm not going to sit here and defend
what they used to.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
This isn't just because you're really close with a couple
of the people in the front office.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
They're like, is this sounds like there's a little bias
in your He's pretty close to a couple of people
I know.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
I won't say, I won't say name's Pete, but you
and I both know you're You're you're friendly. You're friendly
with a few guys. Sounds like you're friendly, Pete.
Speaker 12 (36:59):
I'm not. I'm not friendly. I know some of them.
But the reality is, I don't think there are as cheap
as everybody portrays.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
The big Well, what are tell us what they are? Pete.
Speaker 12 (37:08):
The question becomes, do you want to keep t Higgins
in Lieua going get help in other positions. That's That's
basically what it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Would you yes, I would. I would keep t Higgins too.
Speaker 12 (37:20):
I keep him too, But but if he gets irrational,
then then I'm not keeping him at trade him somewhere,
get something for him.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
But that's the tag, right doesn't the tag remove the
irrational approach to what it is you have going on?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
It's like you're getting.
Speaker 12 (37:33):
Ah, you can negotiate a deal with them.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
You get a non exclusive tag that says we you're
giving them the opportunity to see what his value is
on the open market. So if you come back and
we got to have a conversation about your your contract,
then you understand that the market has spoken and that
we're most likely your best option. Right and now how
it would play out? Or you just stay on that
non exclusive tag, right.
Speaker 12 (37:57):
Or you just tag them and then trade if you
want to. I could do that too. I think letting
him leave the free agency would be the worst.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Thing they could do.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Pete Prisco joining us here on the Herd on Fox
Sports Radio. Pete, who's the worst run organization in the NFL.
Speaker 12 (38:14):
Oh, good question.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Jacksonville, what pete answer the question?
Speaker 12 (38:24):
Get me wrong, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Answer the question.
Speaker 12 (38:27):
When Trent Balke was in there running things, they were
the worst running I would answer that question by one
un that Carolina.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I mean, that's a Jacksonville.
Speaker 12 (38:36):
Carolina, Jacksonville. When Trent balk was running the Jacksonville Jaguars,
they were the worst run organization in the in the league.
I would agree. I would agree with that. You know,
the owner gives that proposition a lot of power, and
that power he brought in, you know, urban Meyer. I mean,
come on, he brought in urban Meyer. Look what happened
with that? That was a master and so and so situation.
(38:59):
It's the worst run Yeah, for that time being, it
was the worst run organization. So yes, to answer that question.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yes, what about right now? Right now? Who's got it? Now?
Speaker 12 (39:08):
Well, let's see who they hire as a general manager
and then I'll get back.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
But they're down to five, right, They're down to five.
They get there, they are down to five.
Speaker 12 (39:16):
But look, Tony Baselli, who I know well and Brady
knows him as well.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
There we go again, here we go. They hired him in.
Speaker 12 (39:25):
An executive VP, and he's going to fix the organization.
He's gonna They're going to hire the right team. And
it all depends on who Liam how Liam Cone is
as head coach, and I think from what I hear,
he's going to be pretty good.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
But okay, okay, Tee.
Speaker 12 (39:42):
It's just football, by the way. It's not that complicated.
It really isn't. It's it's look, you know, Tony b
I worked with him on radio for all those years
and and had to teach him part of the game.
Him down here, and now he's back and running the Jets.
I had to teach him part of the game. Brady
Quinn all over the TV, everywhere. I work with him
down here, him part of that. It's not that complicated.
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It's just.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Pete.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I love you. Way to go out guns. Everyone left you, Pete.
Now you're the one there. Everybody left. Well done, Pete.
Speaker 12 (40:18):
You know what, don't bring somebody else in to work
with me, and I'll teach him a singer to you
every Sunday too.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
There is some good chicken cutlets or something. Pete. Prisco.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
You can get him on ex at Prisco CBS and
if you come for him. He does like the smoke,
so he will respond on social media. Thanks Pete, we
appreciate it. All right, guys, there is Pete Prisco, senior
NFL columnists from CBS Sports CBS Sports h Q analyst.
Speaker 8 (40:46):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
By the way, with the exception of a couple of
as have been in the bottom half of the league,
it's cash spending and especially if you take out Burrows money.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yeah, I love Pete, man, you can lu He always
he always manages an opportunity to get a few digs in.
You know, he's got to take his shots. Well, you man,
there's just mutual respect. Just mutual respect, you know. Okay, yeah,
that's cool, you know, just a couple of a couple.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Of one of those office guys he's close with. Yeah,
I got to that's my guy. So we're good.
Speaker 12 (41:20):
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Hello, there, it's The Herd on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for Colin here
on this Tuesday morning. Hey you guys, feeling man, you
feel in an hour or two of this. You sound refreshed.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I feel really good talking about it. You sound good too,
Jones sound good. We were just sogging about it.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
You know, we're kind of on the same timeframe as
you right now, that East Coast time.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
I'm at a fog, but where we're we're like everyone's
just there's just someone's got something, everyone's getting sick. People
are sneezing, coughing on each other. It's just I feel
like you're in a battle every day, you know. I'm
sure we're just trying to get through. That's yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I mean, did you get did the weekend get a
little better or I know it was.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
I've got like a cold now, so I'm trying to
work through that, which I'm pretty much trying to do
every homeopathic remedy possible.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
What are you using, like, like, oh, you guys ever
take those ginger shots? Yeah? Like the orange Yes, yeah,
they're really good too.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I don't know if you're supposed to take as many
of I'm taken each day, but I'm taking like four
or five a days.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Take too many? It's natural. Yeah, that's that's what I
was thinking. I'm take too many. Those would be fine.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
A bunch of vitamins, I mean, probably more vitamin C
than anyone's taking their life.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
Like.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, just trying to just trying to get healthy. That's
all good. I mean that's one way to do it,
for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
What's the other way? Chola said he takes a lot
of Vitamin D. Yeah, I do, which I don't. I mean,
you're still well. I mean what might have beende.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I'm all about comfort and so you know, I go
with what makes me feel comfortable and that. I mean
you could also get on the echo bike. You can
get on the Echo bike and just kind of sweat
that bad boy out.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
You know, you know, I go into the stamingroom when
I when I don't feel good, Man, I just try
to sweat everything out.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Of the steam room too. That's still ain't working either,
it's not working. You can stay in there though, how
long twenty minutes?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, you gotta go to like forty.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I stay in that bad boy for like what your mommy, yourself,
you dehydrate that s right on that you'll come out
and look.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yourself, is what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
No, no, you don't kill yourself at that at that
amount of time. That's like the time to do it.
Like get the thirty five forty minutes, I'm telling you.
And I wear a sweatsuit on top of that, which
socks on my hands and my feet. I mean at
one twenty first for everything? You know what you mean?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Man?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Is that sheep pink? Yeah? Interesting? All right? That nothing
is like like a different shot. I mean it was
a it was a Valentine's Day this pace.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It was okay, let's get on track, let's go definitely,
let's all right, so we are going to transition here smoothly.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I'm glad you feel better. Cue.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, I think keep fighting a good fight. Than appreciate it, guys, Okay,
I appreciate your support. You're going for forty minutes.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
If you gyn't talk to you tomorrow, it's probably what Brady.
You can't take notice is thanks Var, that's all going
to saill that.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
No, don't do that. That's what I do. And like
Brooks was here, I take the ice water in there too.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Let's make sure you have some water and you're hydrating
while you're in there.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
How the hell do you taking ice water? No, you
take your Stanley in there. You take a Stanley in there, and.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Don't those things explode. No, though you're good, I'm telling
us stanleys were exploding.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Mine's never minds. Mine has never exploded.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Like he would walk into that sauna literally like in
the steam room like the face of Big Noon kickoff,
and he would come out like cocoon, like you're trying
to kill the guy. Forty minutes is way too long.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm looking up right now.
I'm telling you somebody somebody told me, a guru told
me that before.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I mean, you know, I'm a PhD guy myself, and
I don't know about.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Are you yeah? Man? All right, sixty new ones. All right.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So we move over to this where there was a
rumor that was floated out there that the Pittsburgh Steelers
had reached out to the Jacksonville Jaguars about the potential
of trading for Trevor Lawrence. Jacksonville, of course, was contacted
about that. They pushed back on the report. Well, Trevor
Lawrence himself was smearing it up with Kay Adams on
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up in Adams yesterday and was asked specifically about the
Pittsburgh Steelers interest and had this to say.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
I didn't really see anything. My agent texted me and was, hey,
this is a and then of course I saw it
after he text me and said, hey, this is a
report's out there. I don't think there's anything to it,
but I'll check into it. So I saw it and
it's funny though when he sent it to me, I
was like, you know, I wouldn't say your heart drops
what you're kind of like what I could think. And
then I'm thinking about like, well, I can't even get
I have no trade calls in my in my contract,
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so I wouldn't know about it if I was getting
if I was getting traded or if that was something
that was going to happen, you know, I'd have to
be on board with it, so which I'm not. I'm
happy here in Jacksonville. I plan on. You know, we
want to win a super Bowl here and you know,
I think I think we can do that.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Take that bar all right, take that good.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
You were trying to get him released?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Cut all I'm saying into the league, there's no reason
for I mean, and a player can speak for themselves, right,
the player can speak for themselves. But you didn't hear
that from from Shat Khan or any of the executives
at Well, yeah you did, because they did come out
and say that I absolutely weren't going to trade them.
But no, no one is off limits, no one. And
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this Jacksonville Jaguars team is a struggling team for for
a little while now, even on his watch, and again
he has not established that he is a bona fide
franchise quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'll stand on that.
(06:34):
So if you're not, if you if you're going into
what is this year four? Is this year four? Yea, yeah,
yere okay, you're going into year four and you you
had one moment in time that was a shining moment
where you were like, here we go, this is the
Trevor Lawrence air.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
It's about to pop off. Here we go.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And then nothing after that that was like almost like,
oh wait, that was the curtain call. That that was it.
That was that was the height of the height. I
don't know if that's what it is, but I know
that five actually year five? Okay, all right, this is
what I do know because he did, dude, the big
deal what last year right or the year before? Anyway,
the bottom line is he has not definitively shown that
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you're going in the right direction. He is the future
of this franchise. He is the president of this franchise.
He hasn't really solidified that. So if you could get
some if you could get some real value and not
having Trevor Lawrence on your roster, it's not off limits.
I don't think it's off limits at all. I mean,
he's done more than Pickett. But look at where Picket
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ended up, and he was a draft pick. They thought
that he was going to be a guy. I mean,
not as highly latted as as Trevor Lawrence coming out,
but he's not even in the place where he started.
And if you don't think that they if they could
find a quarterback that could do a better job for them.
If this coach, especially when you get new coaches involved,
you run the risk of not being that coach's guy.
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And he's got to take a look at what it
is he has to do and what that represents to
him and his team. And do I want to take
look at what happened to Aaron Rodgers. They don't want him,
they didn't want him. You got to take a look
at it. You got to value it, you got to
assess it. And I don't think that Trevor Lawrence is
off off like. I don't think he's non touchable. I
don't think he's an untouchable.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, but they just paid him.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I don't care. I don't think he's going anywhere. I mean,
he's not. It doesn't seem like he is.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
This is more of if I'm a Pittsburgh Steelers fan.
This is a team saying like we're trying to leave
no stone unturned. We're calling all these teams up who've
got guys who are franchise quarterbacks, and that for many
of the reasons that LeVar just stated, maybe there's they
have some questions about whether or not he is the guy,
even though they paid him. So let's give them a call.
Which that's what you should do. Like if if you've
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got a spot, you've got a problem at any position,
let alone the quarterback spot, you should be calling every
team possible. So I have a problem with this. I mean,
it's again, this stuff happens this time of year, the
no trade clauses. What's kind of comical about this for
Trevor Lawrence because people run with these sorts of narratives.
It's why you know it came from someone in Pittsburgh,
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because someone in Jacksonville goes, well, first off, Jacksonville's not
trading him, and then second he's got no trade clause,
so he'd have to prove whatever trade even if they
tried to trade him what was going on. So like
this theoretically doesn't work, but for clicks, sure, Yeah, well
let's just throw it out there on the home screen
or you know, the website, and let's let's se how
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many people can drive traffic there to listen to us
talk about this conversation.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
The Steelers a quarterback got they got some problems. If
Russell Wilson is gone, you're looking at Justin Fields, maybe
Aaron Rodgers, who has said that he wants to play.
But it just feels like there's no there's no fix
this offseason that, in my mind, is going to close
the gap between them Baltimore and Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Aaron Rodgers, Justin Field, Russell Wilson, Trevor Lawrence. What's your
best case scenario? Who? Who is your best case scenario
to get if that's your choice is Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
But it's not happening. I mean, who are we picking from?
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I mean the ones that I would say are are
on their list, right, we would say that they reached
out about Trevor Lawrence. So Trevor Lawrence Russ isn't gone yet, right,
they haven't made that acasion.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
I always feel like continuity is better than anything else,
Like you like you build from there, And I.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Truly believe this.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Anyone who watched the Steelers with you, I'm going with
pop with this. But like they need more help on
the outside, Like they need more help on that roster
if they can't get Pickings to act like a number
one like he can be Like if he's too inconsistent
at times, and when I'm watching, I'm like, man, there
he is, like there's that guy, there's that number one.
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And then other times they doesn't feel like he's interested
in playing at all. It's it's it's bizarre, but they
need more firepower in a division that's got firepower pretty
much everywhere in Baltimore, everywhere in Cincinnati, or at least
I assume it's gonna be everywhere in Cincinnati. You know,
you can even make the case with the talent that's
on Cleveland. They still got a lot of talent too.
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So this is a roster that when you compare it
to the rest of the division, offensively speaking, it doesn't
have as much firepower as everyone else, and so they
need more there to go with, whether it's Justin Fields
Russell Wilson, Like, I'm a bigger believer in one of
those two guys seeing this thing before it as opposed
to bring in someone else new it again to try
to learn Arthur Smith's offense.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Think you got to go with Russell Wilson. I think
he's your best option.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
And I know people will say, well, you have more
of a runway with Justin Fields. I just felt like
we saw what we're going to see from Justin Fields.
I'm sorry, I feel like the verdict is in on
Justin Fields, and I'm just being honest, and yes, if
you give him more weapons, you give him more options
and opportunities. Maybe I'm proving wrong, maybe he's a different player,
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but I just felt like we hit a ceiling with
with what you're able to do within that offensive scheme
with Justin Fields. Move him around, get a couple he's looking,
he's looking to run the ball. He wants to run
the ball. You're not gonna win just trying to run
the ball. It's just not It's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
You gotta be able to deliver the ball.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
And he had a couple of good games, but I
just never saw him take the top off, and it's like,
there it is. There's the game you're looking for. There,
that's what they need. And that was to me, what
gave way for Russell Wilson to get the opportunity to
continue to play or to re enter the fold of
playing in Pittsburgh. And he did well enough. He fell
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off the cliff too. I mean, I don't feel like
he finished out strong. They didn't finish out strong, but
I think a lot of that had to do with
what c was talking about on the outside, the lack
of weapons. And you also had a defense that I'll
continue to say is not as domin in a defense
as it has been in the past. And that has
always been a staple of these these teams in Pittsburgh
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is their defenses are going to carry a load, a
very heavy load, and you don't have that. So I
don't think Trevor Lawrence is the answer. I think you
put Trevor Lawrences just safe for the sake of saying
it did happen. I think you put Trevor Lawrence in
an even bigger, even bigger situation of catching an l
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than what he even has in Jacksonville, because I think
it's bad for him in Jacksonville. I don't see it
improving in Jacksonville. That's just my take on it. You
take him out of there and you put them in
a market like Pittsburgh where they're expecting more, I think
you put them in an even worse situation because I
don't know that Trevor Lawrence is the type of quarterback
that you bring in and he changes the fortunes of
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your organization. I don't see that. I don't see I
haven't seen that out of him. Go with Russ I
we'll see.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
They're gonna go with Justin Phield. I mean, if you're
if you're Permanny Brothers, you better hope they do. I mean,
you get to change your sandwiches, man, like you know,
people love for Manny's. They've been a staple. They deliver.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
What up pee man?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
All right, it is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin coming
up next here though, we're going to talk to a
man who managed to do the impossible. He pissed off
a fan base who's got nothing to be pissed off about.
And that's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
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Speaker 4 (14:40):
It's the Herd Fox Sports Radio. It's fools, young, cool,
it's thirteen years old. It'sposed to cold, too many tall, Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
LaVar Arrington was Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox In for Colin.
We are going to be catching up with pe Prisco
coming up peer momentarily hoping to catch up with Pete
from our good buddy every single Tuesday morning air from
CBS Sports. Pete, by the way, pissed off the Eagles
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fan base. I mean they should be happy, do well.
They did this thing where they were saying, take your
pick for the next five years, and they threw up
a bunch of different quarterbacks and he took a lot
of them over Jalen Hurts. And you know, I think
they were they were very bothered by that that he
would be taking those quarterbacks over Jalen Hurts, even after
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winning a super Bowl. And so you know, of course
the Eagles fans got a hold of that. And they
can't just be happy because even when they are happy,
they're you know, punching police horses when they win titles.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
So they hats like that. But just how they are
man like.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I was only a few of them that do craziness
like that. Man Usually there's a few represent the entire
you know, fan base. It's a really really dope fan base.
It's a loud minority then very it is a very
loud minority. You know, that's not minorities. Don't go down
that line. Not all right, everybody out there that that
don't take that the way that is sounded. There's a
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there's a small group of people that that represent the
Philadelphia Eagles fan base incorrectly.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
That's all. I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
You guy fan base has that you guys play there?
Do you deal with it at all?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Absolutely, they're horrible.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I was on i R, I was in Philly when
it happened, but uh yeah, I mean they were pretty
pretty nasty fan base. So that was like, it's like
two thousand and eight, and so I'm pretty sure they
waxed us pretty good.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
So you, I mean, you really can't say anything at
that point, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
So, uh so, Pete's been been dealing with the repercussions
of of what happened with the Eagles fan base. So
hopefully we'll be catching up with Pete here coming up.
Just a couple of moments from now uh lead to
lap Is efforting, uh trying to line up peace.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Just a classic case of not telling Pete that we're
at a different time.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Slow.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
It looks like there's a whole lot going on back there.
I don't think this one is in Lee's hands. Yeah,
it's technical difficulty.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Is that it is. So if I reach out to
Pe right now, he'll respond.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Oh yeah, every time I see cars, like, you know,
I always put the face to to the situation when
I'm talking to cares because usually I'm on the phone
with cares. But when I get to see them, it's
interesting because I get to put the facial expressions in
the body language to to what I hear when I'm
on the phone with them, and it totally matches. Totally matches.
(17:32):
Dude is a genius though, man like he pulls things together.
So they're back there, they're just doing that genius stuff. Que,
that's all. That's That's what we're trying to pull together.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I do think though, that Pete loves the interaction though
with people.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
When it comes to.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
That people, we're so like, you know, I don't want
to say confrontational. That sounds a little aggressive, but maybe
like maybe accepts the adversarial role of of how he
interacts with people sometimes.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Oh yeah, loves to mix it up.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
After I met him in person, then I realized why
he likes to mix it up so much.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
He's feisty. Feisty. I mean when you.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Have shoulders as broad as as Pete priscoes, it makes
all and that tan holy.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, well I still can't get over the story he
told us about the Super Bowl in San Diego, where
was at least Steinberg had the super Bowl party at
the San Diego Zoo.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Like what, yeah, I do remember that? What is that
Lee goes all out for his parties? Man at the zoo? Yeah,
you think that's a good idea? Oh yeah, somebody throwing
it a g and T at a giraffe.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Not throwing a g and T.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
That seems like a terrible idea.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
You have him in a restricted area.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Listen, we were in New Orleans. We saw how you know,
the media gets after it, especially on that Thursday night.
I don't think we would be trusted near the Flamingo exhibit.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Really.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, I don't think that a good idea at the zoo.
But you know that was a that was Diego Zoo
is dope. It is awesome, it's fun.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
I like the zoo hair in my life too, Yeah,
I bet yeah, But the one in San Diego is
kind of fire man. That's the one where you could
like go on to the jeeps and you go out
there with the h and the giraffe, and the giraffe
was getting close to us this one time, and they
were like, yeah, keep your hands inside. The giraffe is
running up on us, like.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
You know, you know it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, all right, So so we will effort Pete Prisco.
In the meantime, here on the Herd, it is time
for an impromptu edition of a Little Sat on the Herd,
And it's the herd Line News, starring the One Only.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Great two No, it's the herd Line News.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Listen, guys, I'm always ready, all right, I'm always ready.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
See that's what That's what I don't know any roll, Hey,
all right.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
I don't think Brady realizes how long we could go
with this, Like you could just do anything, like we could.
We've got something for me, Oh yeah, right, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Probably some drops in the system. God, I don't even
want to know. And also like it's just kind of
a it's just a cool last name.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
I mean it's to hey, but Brady, it's funny, like
I've gotten so many versions, like I've gotten like to
me too, Lee, to Hay really, I mean, oh yeah,
they people Butcher the time, I.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Could see how too we could confuse them. But like
either to hay or two, there's not really many other
ways you could pronounce that, right.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
I mean, you'd think, but the different versions I've gotten
over the years when I was a kid, we're just
insane from teachers and.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Whoever, try having the last name Knox, you do the math.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
We talked a lot about the NBA new format yesterday
something else that ver the weekend. The three point shot
has come under fire in recent seasons for what many
is saying is ruining the NBA and basketball in general.
And as you were talking earlier, Brady, it's just kind
of contributing to a lack of excitement, physicality from what
we saw in the old days of old the old
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school days of the NBA. Steph Curry, the greatest three
point shooterever, over the weekend, opened up about the three
point shot craze and why he's good with young kids
following his lead.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
I love the work that goes into, you know, earning
and deserving that confidence. And that's the message that I
preach all the time is I want everybody to be
inspired if you love basketball, to be able to shoot
and get better and stretch your rings, shoot, you know,
five ten feet outside of the three point line.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Like would love you.
Speaker 9 (21:44):
To be inspired to do that, but you also got
to work at it too, so that they the ruin
and the game thing it. It's just a charge and
a challenge to if you want to do that, then
get in the gym, get your reps in.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
And earn it.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I agree with them, though, I agree all right, How
else is is Steph Curry going to become Steph Curry
if he doesn't develop a skill that fits what he's
bringing to the tape.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I think we've seen that Steph can do it. There's
a lot of people who try to do it. They
can't and that's what's hurting.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Well, nobody's became Michael Jordan, yet a lot of people
tried year in and year out.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Like there's a reason why the Willndas do the high
wire act and nobody else does.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Otherwise you know, there'd be corpses left and right on
the they're the only people that do it. No one
else is a high wire act.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Well, I mean, yeah, they're just not successful. So late.
I don't like that. So I think you just you
don't like remembering anyone else's name that does it? Who
else does it?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Name another high wire act that isn't the willndas All right,
let me type it into the Google machine. It's like
you're gonna be digging because they didn't go well.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
But it's like Steph Curry can do this stuff. The Warriors,
I just do it like a few years back.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Oh, Philip Petite, I mean those are all people who
do it.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Okay, Well, I mean I think the problem is with
the three point shot is that it's all or nothing,
and that's what the NBA's become. It's all threes or
all dunks, and there's nothing in between. And so when
you watch an NBA game, you're just seeing guys jack
up forty forty five fifty threes a game. Teams fifty
three is a game, and it's just it's lost the excitement.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
The craziness about what you're saying is is that that
is the very argument that people use saying that the
teams of the past would not be able to contend
with the teams today because of the amount of points
they're putting up by shooting all of these threes.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Like Zach Edy, for example, in any other era seven
to four, could score, could rebound. You're looking at like,
oh my god, this guy's a top pick in the
draft and he fell to what eleven to Memphis or
something like that, Like there in no other time would
he have fallen that far. And that's why like a
guy like Jimmy Butler or DeMar DeRozan who's got sort
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of an in between game, it's kind of like you're
not really sure where to put them because it just
doesn't match up to anything else. It's it's just a
different creating thing.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Is you get like guys like Towns and and who's
the guy in uh Philly, Big big Dog? And you
get guys like uh Jannis. These guys are like dang
there or Kevin Durant. These guys are like dang there
seven foot or seven foot and they plan like little
Man by the way. And Joel Embiid is one of
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my favorite drops in the system. First of all, it
ain't no bitch. Let's start Parker a good place to
that was That's a good place to start.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
All right.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Wrapping up with this so guys, uh Angels star Mike
Trout to arrive at spring training on Sunday and uh
net with the Angels coaches, and they determined that the
three time MVP would be moving from center field to
right field in an effort to preserve his body and
keep him healthy.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Season.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
Trout, who is now thirty three, said quote, I knew
it was coming. I just want to be on the field.
He's only played in three postseason games in his career.
He's only played in two hundred and sixty six of
his last six hundred and forty eight games of the
last four seasons.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
This is crazy.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
I mean, in reality, this should be a huge story,
right for a guy with trout statutes, But the problem
is he has become so irrelevant and the Angels become
so irrelevant. Nobody the gap is astronomical between them and
the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah, nobody cares about the can he just.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
D like that would be a good start brand.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Like, if you really want to like protect him, why
put him in the field at all? Just let him
dh am I nuts for saying that. No, it's just like, like,
so you can go center to right field, so what
you get less balls hit your way when.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
When healthy, he's one of the best defensive outfield vision.
I get that, but he's never I get that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Never healthy.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Yeah, and so if you feel like fielding is what
hurts you and the best attribute best what a helping
your team arguably is hitting.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
They just let him.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
What if that never crossed it?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
By the way, the Angels, Croud's name was super big,
what like four years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
He was the best player in baseball, like four one
of the great talents that we've seen.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
He was going back and forth with somebody else. Who
was he going back and forth with, like with hitting
home runs and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Rookie Betts was in the discussion as one of the
best players in baseball. Like it's like Bryce Harper the
other one. And then you see Otani and you go,
oh god.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
You know, but I think we were talking maybe yesterday,
but like the fact that they had Otani and Mike
on the same team and they did absolutely nothing. Think
about this, and I brought this up before. Otani is
the DH for the Dodgers. The Dodgers DH should be
the number one starting pitcher for at least twelve to
fifteen teams in base Very true.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
That's how loaded the Dodgers are and the Angels could
be in Kijuana and nobody would care. Like if you
wouldn't know the difference, it's there's no discussion. They're irrelevant
in LA in southern California. Wow, yeah, completely skipped over
by the Padres.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Well, there you go. That's the.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Hell of a job by Greg Twoey there. Thank you
the Herd Line News.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Starting the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd
Line News.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
You know some have said this was impossible, and to
that we say, screw you.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The great Pete Prisco joins you next here on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
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big payday, very very soon, and it could impact his
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NFL columnist for CBS Sports CBS Sports HQ Analysts. You
can get him on x at Prisco CBS. Pete, how
we feel on here on Tuesday?
Speaker 12 (29:33):
Are you guys? Is this like a little bit of
a promo promotion for you guys? Have you stepped up.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
To the league?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Is that what this said?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Pete?
Speaker 12 (29:40):
No, man, I'm.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Kidding like little League. It's like little League. We're pinned hitter.
Speaker 12 (29:45):
You know well you struck out three times around?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Oh no, wow, wow say that.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
When we was in New Orleans, Damn, talk your little
as off that stage.
Speaker 12 (29:58):
Before I even got on the stage with you, you
were reminding me about Mike your.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Because there's a phenomenal Tan. You gotta be honest, that
is a very distinctive Tan, Pete. I mean, let's be
clear here. You got broad shoulders, you got a good Tan.
I was giving you all the props in the world.
Now you come on here shooting at me.
Speaker 12 (30:15):
You know, I don't know if you were giving me props,
you could take a.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Shot straight pop.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
It's all good props.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
You're my guy, Pete, since since d C. Come on, man,
we got history.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
You know, a.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Pete, what did Why did you piss off Eagles.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Fans the way that you did?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
What did you do?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Now?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Do what you do?
Speaker 12 (30:36):
Now?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
All these other quarterbacks you would take over Jalen Hurts?
And now the fan base is going after you on
social media. Do you e't to see any of that, Pete?
Speaker 12 (30:43):
Oh yeah, I see it. And I was on a
Philly radio station today and another couple of them have
reached out, and everybody wants to take a shot at me.
And and the question was post to me, which quarterback
would I take over a bunch of different quarterbacks? Would
you take him for the next five years over Jalen
Hurts and a bunch of them? I said yes. And
so now, of course the Philly fans are going nuts.
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And and you know, fresh off the Super Bowl, they
can yell and scream all they want, but the reality
is about the last month of the season. They weren't
sitting there raving about their quarterback either I don't care
what they say, or coach Oyeah, he's a good player,
But would I take him over certain quarterbacks in the league.
The answer to that question is.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Not what Herbert okay, number okay?
Speaker 12 (31:28):
Would you take him over Justin Herbert? I wouldn't. MM.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
I'm not going to answer what what? What? What you
guys think?
Speaker 12 (31:35):
Why won't you answer?
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Because I'm just because it's your questions that you answered,
So I was just letting.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You have it. I think Herbert's an interesting one.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Herbert's an interesting one because I think if you're I
think the real question is what Howie Roseman take Justin
Herbert over Jalen Hurts? And I would imagine he would say.
Speaker 12 (31:56):
Yes, dang, well, there's a one was Trevor Lawrence. I said,
look right now, I'd say there there, I'd take. I
have a hard time ticking between the two of them
because the Hurts has played better, but Lawrence is much
more upside in my mind, you know, And so that
was a tough one for me. I got they got
mad about that. Dak Prescott, now Dak Prescott LEDs the
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league in touchdown passes last year.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Stop, you'd take Hurts over him? Right now? Are you serious?
You take Dak over Hurts.
Speaker 12 (32:25):
I don't know if I would.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I don't know would.
Speaker 12 (32:29):
He's by the way, in that little playoff running he
just had a average throwing about two hundred yards passing,
and and and you know the fact numbers that he
holds the ball way too long. His sack numbers. He
has thirty eight sacks on the season, and he threw
like two hundred, which is ties his career hard from
two years ago. And he threw to almost two undred
few passes. It owns the ball too long. He's good.
I see the way I look at it. Guys, you
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could take one through five, and there's now a five
because Jade Daniels is now in that five. The one
through five, those guys are clearly above everybody else. And
then the next group of seven or eight, nine guys
are all kind of lumped in together.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
If you ask me, I'm gonna help us get off
this topic.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Go to another quarterback, one that seems to be disgruntled
with his situation with this franchise.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
And he's a guy that you've been very high on Pete.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
You know you didn't necessarily predict him never won a
Super Bowl yet, but you said he's gonna win multiple's.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That's Joe Burrow.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Do the Bengals get Jamar Chase t Higgins and Trey
Hendrickson all done this offseason? And if they you don't
think they do. How's the long term out look for
Burrow in Cincinnati? Do you think he's gonna eventually get frustrated?
He may end up somewhere else like Carson Palmer.
Speaker 12 (33:47):
Well, look, I think, first off, I'll start with the
first part of it. I think it's going to be
tough to get all three of them done with long
term extensions.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
I guess, okay, real quick, real quick, Why do you
say that? When we look at Philly and Burrow's even
said this, they figure out how to make it work,
So why.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Can't sit You can make it work.
Speaker 12 (34:04):
The question becomes do you do you want to make
it work? And the reason I'm saying, of course those
are good players, but what does that do to the
rest of your roster? Are they any damn good at all?
On defense? And you know Hendrickson is good as you
get Pete.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
No, but we're talking about the Super Bowl champs literally
just did this with multiple players. They have six players
who are making twenty million or more year on their salary.
Speaker 12 (34:27):
Yeah, and then they supplement it by going to get
a guy like Zack Bond and paying them on one
year deal and he becomes a big part of their defense.
And now he goes. Now they got to either pay
him or he leaves. I get it, you can do it, Brady.
That's that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is
if you why not you could tag Higgins and maybe
get a market for him out there and trade them
and get some assets. And then if you want to
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keep Hendrickson and you want to pay Chase, Okay, would
I try and keep all of them. Absolutely, But if
you if the money gets too crazy and you can't,
then I think you have to prior toys where you
to go with it. And you know, if you take
Hendrickson off that defense, what are they are they any good?
They're they're horrible with well, then that they're gonna be
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even worse and that puts even more pressure on Joe
Burrow in that offense. So yeah, I think ideally they
tag Higgins, get a deal done with Chase. Extend Hendrickson
because you know Hendrickson isn't a kid anymore. Either extend
him and then and then come back to to Higgins
and see if you get something done, and if you can't,
then you peddle get some something back for him.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
But what about the second part of the question, though,
do you think it would get to him not going anywhere.
Speaker 12 (35:38):
He's one of the top he's one of the top
four quarters, he's one of the guys. He's an it guy.
You don't get rid. You don't let that go out
of the door. So no, I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
You wouldn't have said that about Palmer during his time
with the Bengals.
Speaker 12 (35:50):
Well, he also suffered a major knee injury at one point.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Remember Burrows had significant injuries like let's not go.
Speaker 12 (35:57):
There, that's true, major that.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
He had a very unique like wrist injury, elbow wrist
like that. Again, it seemed like it took a little
while to work itself out this year.
Speaker 12 (36:09):
Yeah, but he worked it out. South mself out alright.
He threw he had it on the MVP type season.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
But Pete, don't get distracted by it.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
You act like this franchise has ever built ever around
any quarterback?
Speaker 12 (36:19):
Pete, Well, I mean they they built around Boomer back
in the day.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
If you would he say that, if you asked him
when he say that, because I I've heard him talk
otherwise on that, and that's why he was Palmer's gone.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
That's why he said maybe Burrow one day would be.
Speaker 12 (36:36):
But I think the old reputation of the Bengals is
a little misguided now used to be just don't get
me wrong. I'm not going to sit here and defend
what they used to.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
This isn't just because you're really close with a couple
of the people in the front office.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
They're like, is this sounds like there's a little bias
in your He's pretty close to a couple of people
I know.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
I won't say, I won't say name's Pete, but you
and I both know you're You're you're friendly. You're friendly
with a few guys. Sounds like you're friendly, Pete.
Speaker 12 (36:59):
I'm not. I'm not friendly. I know some of them.
But the reality is, I don't think there are as cheap
as everybody portrays.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
The big Well, what are tell us what they are? Pete.
Speaker 12 (37:08):
The question becomes, do you want to keep t Higgins
in Lieua going get help in other positions. That's That's
basically what it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Would you yes, I would. I would keep t Higgins too.
Speaker 12 (37:20):
I keep him too, But but if he gets irrational,
then then I'm not keeping him at trade him somewhere,
get something for him.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
But that's the tag, right doesn't the tag remove the
irrational approach to what it is you have going on?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
It's like you're getting.
Speaker 12 (37:33):
Ah, you can negotiate a deal with them.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
You get a non exclusive tag that says we you're
giving them the opportunity to see what his value is
on the open market. So if you come back and
we got to have a conversation about your your contract,
then you understand that the market has spoken and that
we're most likely your best option. Right and now how
it would play out? Or you just stay on that
non exclusive tag, right.
Speaker 12 (37:57):
Or you just tag them and then trade if you
want to. I could do that too. I think letting
him leave the free agency would be the worst.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Thing they could do.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Pete Prisco joining us here on the Herd on Fox
Sports Radio. Pete, who's the worst run organization in the NFL.
Speaker 12 (38:14):
Oh, good question.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Jacksonville, what pete answer the question?
Speaker 12 (38:24):
Get me wrong, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Answer the question.
Speaker 12 (38:27):
When Trent Balke was in there running things, they were
the worst running I would answer that question by one
un that Carolina.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I mean, that's a Jacksonville.
Speaker 12 (38:36):
Carolina, Jacksonville. When Trent balk was running the Jacksonville Jaguars,
they were the worst run organization in the in the league.
I would agree. I would agree with that. You know,
the owner gives that proposition a lot of power, and
that power he brought in, you know, urban Meyer. I mean,
come on, he brought in urban Meyer. Look what happened
with that? That was a master and so and so situation.
(38:59):
It's the worst run Yeah, for that time being, it
was the worst run organization. So yes, to answer that question.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yes, what about right now? Right now? Who's got it? Now?
Speaker 12 (39:08):
Well, let's see who they hire as a general manager
and then I'll get back.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
But they're down to five, right, They're down to five.
They get there, they are down to five.
Speaker 12 (39:16):
But look, Tony Baselli, who I know well and Brady
knows him as well.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
There we go again, here we go. They hired him in.
Speaker 12 (39:25):
An executive VP, and he's going to fix the organization.
He's gonna They're going to hire the right team. And
it all depends on who Liam how Liam Cone is
as head coach, and I think from what I hear,
he's going to be pretty good.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
But okay, okay, Tee.
Speaker 12 (39:42):
It's just football, by the way. It's not that complicated.
It really isn't. It's it's look, you know, Tony b
I worked with him on radio for all those years
and and had to teach him part of the game.
Him down here, and now he's back and running the Jets.
I had to teach him part of the game. Brady
Quinn all over the TV, everywhere. I work with him
down here, him part of that. It's not that complicated.
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It's just.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Pete.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I love you. Way to go out guns. Everyone left you, Pete.
Now you're the one there. Everybody left. Well done, Pete.
Speaker 12 (40:18):
You know what, don't bring somebody else in to work
with me, and I'll teach him a singer to you
every Sunday too.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
There is some good chicken cutlets or something. Pete. Prisco.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
You can get him on ex at Prisco CBS and
if you come for him. He does like the smoke,
so he will respond on social media. Thanks Pete, we
appreciate it. All right, guys, there is Pete Prisco, senior
NFL columnists from CBS Sports CBS Sports h Q analyst.
Speaker 8 (40:46):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
By the way, with the exception of a couple of
as have been in the bottom half of the league,
it's cash spending and especially if you take out Burrows money.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yeah, I love Pete, man, you can lu He always
he always manages an opportunity to get a few digs in.
You know, he's got to take his shots. Well, you man,
there's just mutual respect. Just mutual respect, you know. Okay, yeah,
that's cool, you know, just a couple of a couple.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Of one of those office guys he's close with. Yeah,
I got to that's my guy. So we're good.
Speaker 12 (41:20):
Yeah,
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