December 13, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin gives his 5 best NFL bets for week 15 in his Blazin' 5
Caleb Williams is having a better season than some people think
Despite multiple controversies, the NFL is more popular than ever
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, here we go live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd.
Wherever you may be, however you may be listened. Thanks
for making us part of your day. You know, I
was saying this about rock party. When you get the
San Francisco forty nine ers job and you inherit. Christian McCaffrey,
Trent Williams debo, you know, George kittle Bosa. You know
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you're basically you got sports car. Just don't run it
into the driveway. You know, It's like, you gotta contextualize
this stuff. You. I'll give you a great example. It's
Caleb Williams. No think about this. What's interesting about Caleb
Millions of the Bears is people were very concerned about
painting stingernails in college, jumping into the stands, getting very
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emotional after a loss with his mom, I had a
general manager who I trust implicitly saying it is a
little off. He can be a little moody on the
sidelines a usc Now. I defended him, saying he was
the first nil superstar. So he's the first guy in
the college campus making five million dollars a year, and
anytime you're the first anything, it's a lot for a
young person to handle, right. So but I would say
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this Caleb this year has actually been despite the nonsense,
he's been great. They've lost seven straight, They've had the
head coach and the offensive coordinator fired. There were reports
they actually considered benching him. The front office has a
power struggle. Oh yeah, they're in the best division in football.
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The Chicago Bears have lost a game on a hail Mary,
which is just has to be debilitating to a locker room.
They lost a game to the Lions on out rageously
terrible clock management. They lost a game to the Green
Bay Packers, who seized on an opportunity to block a
kick coaching win. They have been a hasmat spill of
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an organization, bad coaching, constant flux, power struggle, and the
kid's been the bright spot. No interceptions in seven straight games,
an NFL rookie record. So you know, listen, let me
tell you Chicago, thank God for the White Sox or
maybe the worst mess in a city right now that
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sports can't get their act together. But he's the bright spot.
I mean, look at what mahomes inherited, the Hunt family,
Andy Reid, Brett, Veach, Travis Kelcey, good old Line Schwartz
with this kid's inherited. So I say this all the time.
You know, some kids grow up with stability in their family,
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and you know they've got wealth and stability and op
opportunities educationally, and some kids have to fight through it.
I'm always more impressed with the kids who have to
fight through instability. So I think Caleb every time he
stepped to the microphone this year, says the right stuff
as as the inferno burns around him, and here's Caleb
trying to keep it positive.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I do understand that, uh, you know, this is one
of my first time kind of being a part of
something like this, of of of losing in this you know,
this street going. So I ask questions to the guys
that you know may have lost a bunch of games
or in a row like this, or you know had
losing seasons, you know, seasons like this happened every once
in a while. And being able to learn from it,
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being able to address it, like you spoke about with TV.
He you know, he's addressing it, and uh, you know,
being able to respond is the most important thing.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I have talked to executives and a couple of coaches.
This is a good job despite the mess. And it's
a good job because of Kayleb Williams. Remember Harbaugh last year,
what job did he want? Justin Herbert. For all the
misgivings people have about the Chargers, it was the best job.
And Chicago's the best job because of Caleb Williams. All Right,
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love the picks, desks on fire almost. I gotta get
this through this thing. The blazing five is hot. Here
we go.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Let's blaze it up. Fired up, It's Collins Blazing five.
Chief said Browns.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I have the Browns plus four and keep your eye
on a possible upset. Number three offense in the league
since Jamis Winston arrived, and the number two passing offense
Miles Garrett, tied for second in sacks, and the Chiefs
owen seven against the spread in their last seven games
and three straight games decided by a field goal or less.
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Their offense is not delivering big plays in Kansas City,
and Maholmes has been sacked a career high thirty five times.
Kansas City's struggling four points. It's in Cleveland Brown's to
cover the final twenty eight to twenty seven Chiefs. I'm
taking the points Steelers at egos. I'm taking Pittsburgh plus
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five and a half. They held that great Brown's offense
to fourteen points last week because they were so great
on third down. They are tied for first in the
league in turnover differential. They don't give it away, but
they take it away. Their offense leads the NFL in
time of possession. Their defense is the second best in
the league on third down in Russell Wilson since Week seven,
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top five and six in everything. Meanwhile, the Eagles Jalen
Hurts held under twenty five pass attempts three straight games,
kicking issues with Jake Elliott, AJ Brown drama. Mike Tomlin
is the best underdog coach in NFL history. Not in
opinion of fact. I think it goes down to the end.
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I will take the Eagles to win narrowly again five
and a half way too many points. Take Tomlin and
the Steelers here to cover Bills and Ligas I've flipped.
I like Detroit first. They're coming off rest. The Bills
are coming off a highly emotional game with the Rams.
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Jared Goff at home last five games, seventy eight percent
completion percentage. You thought stafford ate The Bills secondary alive.
Their defense is top three even since the Hayden Hutchinson injury.
The Bills highly emotional on the road again, limited practice time.
They couldn't practice yesterday because a thirty feet of snow.
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So here's a team that has to go on the
road again to the best home team in the NFL.
By the way, the Bills are two to three against
teams with winning records. I thought I like Buffalo the
more I went and looked at this Jared Goff's last
five games. I'm gonna take Detroit to win a great
game and cover thirty three to twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Buccaneer said, charge here.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You know, I really like the Chargers. Tampa Bay's all
beat up. The Chargers, coming off a two point loss
to the Chiefs, had them beat five and two over
their last seven. Their defense is fantastic. It's number one
in the league fewest touchdowns allowed, number one in the
red zone. It is hard to get into the end
zone on the Chargers and Justin Herbert Holly Molly eleven
straight starts without a pick. That's tied for the longest
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streak in league history. The fucks are beating the Giants, Panthers,
and Raiders. Baker Mayfield back to back games with multiple interceptions.
Their defense is not good. This is a mismatch of defenses.
And I get the better quarterback, and I think I
get the better coach, and it's in LA. What don't
I get here? I'm gonna take the Chargers to win it.
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Twenty eight twenty three Coach, Defense, quarterback, home Field.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Edge Packers at Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Green Bay is a better team. I'll lay the two
and a half points at Seattle. They're just a better team.
They're coming off extra rest. I love offensive coaches off
xtra the rest. They're seven and two since the start
of October, both losses to Detroit. Detroit's pretty good nine
to one when holding opponents under thirty. Seattle's not going
to score thirty points. Josh Jacobs this is now a
power run team. Four straight games for Jordan Love over
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one hundred passer rating like Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia. They're saying, listen,
you don't need to throw at thirty eight. We'll throw
it twenty six. Seattle, they're an average home team. Three
and four Gino this year. I know we all love Gino.
Fourteen touchdowns, twelve picks hasn't been very effective at home.
They're beat up in the backfield. I like the Packers
to win, and I like the Packers to cover in
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a wildly entertaining game twenty eight to twenty four. So
if you look at my picks again, I really like these.
We're getting down to the home stretch. I'm taking the
Browns and I'm taking the Steelers as dogs. But I
like the Lions, the Chargers, and the Packers. I think
in all those games. Buffalo I liked initially, but now
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they can't practice. Now they're off a highly emotional game.
You saw how bad the Rams were in the first
half last night. You can't have teams playing highly emotional
games then crank it up and say hey, do that again.
And Detroit is absolutely great at home. That's my blazing
five and with that, Peter Schreger wonderful job, joining us
live from New York. The NFL kickoffs Sunday's eleven AM Eastern.
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He replaced me because he's much better. Okay on that show.
Here we go, shregs. Let's start with this is it's
really funny if you do the deep dives. So the
Rams came into the season. The old line was a mess.
And Stafford's not running a rap. You know, he's an
older quarterback. He's a pocket guy. Now the old line's healthy.
Cooka's healthy, Cooper's healthy, Kyan Williams is healthy. I'm watching
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them last night. I'm watching I'm watching Buffalo. When Stafford
doesn't get sacked, they don't lose the last two years.
I don't know. I look at this team. Maybe they're
not Philadelphia or Detroit. Are they the third best team
in the NFC? Your thoughts on this?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Well, the last thing the NFC contenders w to see
was that logo come storming down the stretch. And here
they are. They won three games in ten days. They
won a game against the Saints in New Orleans, and
I'm gonna people watch that the defense close the.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Door at the end.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Then they win forty four to forty two against the Bills.
Then four days later go play and win twelve to six.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Last night.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
It is it is awesome how they can win such
different ways. I spoke to Sean McVay this morning and
he's like, this is the stuff that corsens our team,
so that when we do have to go into January,
the young guys see that we can win forty four
forty two in a shootout, or we can win the
rain twelve to six, and our defense lead the way.
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Here's the beautiful part about this Rams season. The next
three games they play at the Jets in ten days
here in New York. They can even lose that game,
it doesn't matter. They control their own destiny. As long
as they beat Arizona and Seattle in two home games
end the season, they're the NFC West winners. They beat
Seattle in a clutch game against them in Seattle in
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overtime a couple of weeks back, and they control the
tie breakers in a lot of ways. If they beat
the Cordinals in two weeks so they controlled their own destiny.
They were three and six last year and.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Made the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
They were zero in too this year and written off
this year, and they're already in a spot where they
know what they can do and they get a very
important ten day rest.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yes right now, So yes, Nickveig's feeling good.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
And I don't think the Lions, I don't think the Packers,
and I certainly don't think the Eagles want to see
that McVeigh and that logo come playoff time.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yep, they're finally healthy. So Bill Belichick's got a little
addendum in his contract. I don't know if you saw
that yet, that he can leave June second. Now he's
obviously not leaving this year, but it does kind of
tell you stuff that ends up in contracts. People fight
for to get into contracts. And I've said Shrike's I
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believe this college football now has no structure. Bill thrives
on it. I think he'll do It'll be so much
fun for a year. But I don't know. It doesn't
feel like the runway at Chapel Hill is a five
six year deal. Your thoughts It was.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
A five year deal.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Everyone reported as a five year deal, but we also
knew that it took about three days to be finalized.
I reported on Fox NFL pickoff on Sunday with rolled
eyes from everyone on set that this was very legitimate.
And my key point, which has not been a popular take,
was that the NFL has rejected Bill Belichick. And now
everyone's story yesterday was that Belichick is rejecting the NFL
and this is his way to say, you know, we don't.
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I'm done with the end. It was mutual on that one.
Now what's interesting is I've heard he's still on board
to do the Manning cast and still on board to
do McAfee's show, which means that he's still gonna be
able to promote the happy, warm, fuzzy Belichick and that
if for a year he can do this.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Now, I don't know if he.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Saw Cliff Kingsbury's comments. We're like, why would Cliff Kingsbury's
comments on Belichick. They asked him about it yesterday and
Cliff was like, I went back to college for a
year last year. It's not fun, it's it's not a
good place to be. I will not believe Belichick is
coaching college until I actually see him coach a college game.
Now that's extreme, but I think there's a lot of
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us saying just as much as Michae Lombardi and Belichick
are out there and they're talking about how they're going
to redo this and they're gonna bring structure, and it
is a hell hole in a lot of ways in
that college game right now, as far as it's a
young man's game. And you you know what is Belichick
gonna do The first second that transfer portal opens up
in eleven players look at him. I'm like, look, I
wasn't into the do your job thing. I'm out like
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five years a long time now. Granted, he comes in there,
and he provides wonderful opportunities financially and economically and also
employment wise for a lot of its friends and family.
So you're going to see a lot of people whose names,
you know, whether it be Patricia or McDaniels, or whether
it be Lombardi, or be a Lombardi son, or a
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Belichick son, or be a McDaniel's brother. There's gonna be
a whole cast of people that are coming with him
that are all amazing football minds and want to coach
and want to develop. Are they undervaluing the toxicity of
the college game and just how cut third it is.
In the last year we have seen Jeff Hafley, who
was what you thought he was a great coach at
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BC or not leave to be a defensive coordinator in
the NFL. That's a demotion in a lot of ways.
You've seen Chick Kelly leave being a head coach at UCLA.
I just want to coach offense. Let me be an
offensive coordinator Ohio State. And we have heard coach time
and time again say I just don't like where this
thing is going. Right, Belichick diving in at age seventy
three with a crew that's coming with him from the
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NFL and wants to revolutionize this thing. Let's check in
and see how that's going. And if and if my
last point on this and I'm sorry call it. I'm
doing like a monologue on your show. You're the king
of the monologue. If you had told Belichick in January
that this would end up him going to the fourth
ACC team in North Carolina, that's how he would have
scripted it. I don't think he would have said, yes,
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So let's slow down on the this is his dream
job and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So we got I was talking to Mike Rabel yesterday
who's a great guy, bottom line guy, and we were
talking about job openings, and you know, I'm not gonna
say a lot about it, but you know, one of
the things I said, Mike is with Bill going to college,
you're you're the culture changer. Your last year's Harbaugh. Uh.
And by the way, a lot of people don't know this.
Vrabel finished second with the Chargers. A lot a lot
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of people don't know that. They they called him and said, yeah,
oh yeah, he was. They were going Mike Babel and
then they went with Jim Harbaugh and he you know,
I'm sure he understood that. But but it's interesting. Last
year there was one great opening because of Justin Herbert.
This year Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence, but both of
them is a little toxicity around the job. And then
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there's the Jets where Aaron's not the long term play,
but he's talented for a year. Give me your take
on the league interest in your NFL roll a phone
these days, gauge the Jets interest. Where is it on
the pecking order to candidates?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, look, I think there is something to being an
NFL head coach and an NFL general manager where there's
only thirty two of those jobs. And if they call you,
listen and you take the interview.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I also think that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You look at these different organizations, they all have their flaws.
Right now, there is no shiny job this season right now.
And you know, you look at the Jets and you
could say, oh, the owners think you unders think the
owners gave Joe Douglas everything he could have possibly wanted,
as far as the green light to go get Devontae
Adams midseason, this mid season probably being lost, Go get
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Aaron Rodgers, do all these things and give him.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Six years to win.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
So look, the thing with the Jets job is that
you've got to hire both a GM and you have
to hire a coach. And now I don't know if
what he's watching right now and he's the owner. One
of the key things that GM role is going to
be managing up and I don't know if everyone understands
what that means, but if you've ever worked in an office,
you understand that sometimes there's someone above you on the
org chart that you need to manage that relationship too,
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and sometimes that relationship is protecting that person from things
that he doesn't even know. The GM role is going
to be as much about getting the right players and
managing the salary cap, but also making sure that that
building is as tightly lipped, but also that owner is
as equipped and given all the information he needs where
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he feels confident to just let you do your thing.
The managing up part is going to be huge. Now,
who's the quarterback next year? Does Rogers come back? I'm
not going to say he doesn't. I do think they're
going to have to figure out a plan after Rogers,
and that's going to probably be addressed in the draft
or free agency this season as well.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Listen, Shrag's the one thing that knocks you out of
the Super Bowl bubble is paying a B quarterback a
plus money. You can make a lot of mistakes in
this league. You make that one, you're the Cowboys. I'm
looking at Rock Purty weird numbers that I put on
the screen, fourth quarter trailing, fourth quarter, one possession. He's
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a backup, and he came into this league with all
these Hall of famers. They're now old, brittle, expensive, and
you got some guys now quitting in the game. Are
we sure Perty's getting whatever he wants? Because I couldn't
pull the trigger on that contract.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
No, it's hard, and I would just say this, having
spoken to Lynn Shano Shanahan, like, I don't think people
realize just what a year from hell this has been
for San Francisco. Before the season started they were dealing
with the contracts with IUK and Trent Williams, and then
right before the eve of the start of season their
first round pickets shot. We have dealt with real tragedies.
I'm talking about players who have had children pass away
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during the season, like beloved players, and then all of
these injuries from the football standpoint that I almost want
to give all of them a mulligan, including proc Party.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And yet Purdy.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Has played well this season in spots he has do
I sign that check for sixty million dollars? That's hard
for me, And yet that is why John Lynch and
Kyle Shanahan are paid amongst the highest as gms and
head coaches to go make those decisions.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Jeduork will play.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
A role on that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
But this has to be one of the hardest decisions
to make because Party is everything you want in a leader.
He is everything you want in a kid. But he
has this seventh round pick kind of thing around him
where you're like, but is he that guy? And it
doesn't help that his backup last year, Sam Darnold, when
given all the tools around him, is in the MVP
conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, Shreigs, it's great seeing you keep crushing it. Can
I yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Can I tell a quick story.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I go to this, you know, Hollywood spot, Craig's, and
Craig the owner pulls me aside and is like, do
you follow Colin Coward's you know, five picks every week?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I'm like, I followed.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
He's like, I've been following it for ten years. He's like,
there is nobody better than Colin when it comes to picks.
I go Craig from Craig's. I'm going to send that
to Colin and I'm going to let him know on
his show on Friday.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, it's been a turbulent year, not for Craigs. It
still has the best chicken farm, first or second best
chicken parm My buddy David slid down in Manhattan Beach,
So go to if you ever won Hollywood and you
want the Hollywood experience. Craigs is just fantastic. So they'll
shout out to him. His chicken parm is better than
my picks this year and that's nice of you to say, buddy.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Okay, all right, we'll stay to that mine too, dude.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I took the Jets to be the one seed, so.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
We're good, okay, good stuff. Yeah. If you ever come
out here and you're like, you want to do that
Hollywood thing, Craigs is really the way to do it,
low key Hollywood. Well, we were helping our audience here.
Some people come out and you know, this is the
way with j Mac. That's what we do. We connect
with the people.
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Speaker 1 (20:54):
You know, it's interesting. The college football Next Friday, Notre
Dame hosts Indiana and starting next ally it's our first
ever college football playoff. There's crazy games. Ohio State Tennessee
is unbelievable. That would be like a great New Year's
Day Bowl game in years past. So many good games
next weekend, So this week's at NFL. J McK and
I talked about this. The early window on Sunday is
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probably the bleakest early window, and there'll be some close finishes,
but the afternoon window in the Sunday night is really interesting.
So I can't wait for that. And I will say this,
the ratings came out. NFL ratings now eighteen point one
million a game. Sixty five of the seventy NFL games
have been ranked as the top shows on TV. We've
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never had more good quarterbacks in their prime. I mean
last night, I didn't turn it off. I mean, it
was your kind of classic divisional rival on a short
week game. But the media is always pushback at power,
and that's not a bad thing. But Roger Goodell is
the commissioner of the most powerful business outside of maybe Amazon,
in the country, and he's dealt with Black Lives Matter,
CTE controversy, we had social changes, We've had COVID, we've
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We've just had a lot of things that commissioners big,
not all bad things that commissioners have had to deal with.
And I think Roger Goodell has navigated a multitude of
cultural changes, that CTE issue that was bad and overlooked
for a long time by a previous commissioner or two.
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And here he's made the pat interesting. He tinkers, he evolves,
and the NBA. Meanwhile, ratings are down forty eight percent
in the last twelve years, and they have fallen off
a cliff this year. And Adam Silver's solution is, let's
make the courts brighter. And I like the NBA, but
the All Star Game is now embarrassing, and I think
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load management is a shame on the league. It is
a It is a really bad look for a family
of fo to go to a game and Jannis doesn't
play or mb doesn't play. I'm sorry, go ask the Democrats.
Be warned. Once you detach from regular people in America,
you will pay a price. And it is not easy
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to run these leagues. Rob Manfred I know Rob. I
would support Rob. You know he gets nothing but criticism
because he's like, Hey, we got to make our games faster.
We got to get stars at the plate. So I'm
gonna change a pitch clock a regular season. I'm gonna
put a guy in extra bases as second base to
speed up. Nobody wants a four and a half hour
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game on a Tuesday night in Cleveland. I'm gonna take
the defensive ship. Rob Manfred now is considering the gold
knit bat, which has got a Willy Wonkett feel to it,
but In the end, Rob Manfred has television networks going
to him saying, we're not going to renew including this one.
Make the game faster. He did, Stars got more advance,
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they got rid of defensive shift, and Fox got great ratings.
So my take is nobody likes any president. They don't
like Trudeau in Canada, they don't like whoever is it
in the office here, Nobody likes anybody, and commissioners get
nothing but crap. But the NFL because there's a lot
of regulated violence. Dana White has to deal with this.
Hockey commissioners have to deal with this. Nobody's tackling baseball
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players very often. And he's had to deal with social changes,
cultural changes, COVID and I think they've done a great
job to navigate it. It's not perfect, but the media
too often pushes against power, and I do think there
has to be a safeguard for power, for the pharmaceutical industry,
our government, FBI. I am for that, and I think
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the media has a real role in that. But I've
always thought the sports media just takes shots and a
lot of these commissioners, and especially Goodell, this is a
hard league. It is a hard league, and it's got
a connectability to the American Midwest and regular people. And
if you start looking at the markets that are winning
in this league, Tiny Baltimore, Buffalo, Green Bay, Kansas City
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connect a Bill led T. Everybody feels like, Hey, my
team cares. My guys play hurt. And you know, they
ask a lot of their employees, They ask a lot
of the players. You're not gonna be healthy after week before,
you're gonna be dinged up. Your knee's gonna be sore.
But they reward them handsomely. They don't pand her, and
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the players keep rewarding us time and time again. That
game last night's on a short week, that was physical,
that was intense. It was a division rivalry, and it
wasn't the prettiest game. But I didn't turn it off.
I watched it to the very end. Jay mcklin news, No, no, no,
this is the herdline news.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Yill, let's get to that Rams Niners game.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
I know you watched the whole thing, but my guys,
I'm sure a lot of America fell asleep.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Zero touchdowns Colin unbelievable, especially given what happened for both
these teams last week.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, Niners, looked great.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Rams scored forty four boys.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
How about Kyron Williams, who's tough. He's a good player,
tough runner.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Yeah, he had a good game.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
And after the game, Kyrien Williams a nice segue there,
it's almost like you've done this before, spoke to how
big of a win it was for the Rams.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
It means everything, honestly, because I'm literally the only way here.
Our pilots said, go go sweep the Niners, and he
said that. I was like, danmg, we really could sweep
the Niners. I don't think I've done that since I've
been here. So being able to do that, knowing how
good of a team they are, and knowing the history
with just the two organizations on these huge any of
those shows that we're the big brothers.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I love what's happening in the NFL. What's specific, Derrick Henry,
Kyron Williams, Sa.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Kwan bark Oh, the running back resurgence.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, the SUVs of the league. They got a block,
they got to catch passes, they got to take on
oncoming linebackers and safeties to protect their quarterback. They are
the suv, the grinders of this league. They don't demand
the foot. Kyen Williams is quietly he and Stafford quietly
are the soul of this team. When he's healthy and
Stafford doesn't get sacked, they win.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
How Pooka not in there?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
No, No, Pookah's great, but remember you can roll over coverage.
It's you know, Puka had one big catch the whole night.
Kyron Williams, how many carries he have the last two weeks.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
That's That's one of the things I worry about though.
He's get like twenty three carries for like eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Years trying to move. They used Blake Korum, they didn't
use him early. They're using him more. But if you're
watching the NFL, it is a resurgence of running the
football show.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
One show in America called that they saw this coming.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You knew you. I will give you credit. You said
six months ago you've heard of the housing bubble. You
kept saying we are moving into a wide receiver bubble.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Well, Cole Comet is like making more money than sa
Quon Barkley and Derek Henry. So some ridiculous tight end
statle like Kyron will That's unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Karen Williams, twenty nine carries in back to back games.
I mean that is old Schoobadoloy letting him into the brown.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
But you know, quietly, it's helping mcvey's defense because it
chewing clock. The Rams are slowing down a bit. If
you noticed, they're not like uptempo. Our defense is.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
A little leaky and it's young.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, so they're on the up and up Rams. By
the way seven and two.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Since the Buye and Frager laid it out, this game
against the Jets does not matter. They could rest their starters,
so they're healthy for the Arizona Seattle games to end
the season. And if they beat Seattle, they win the division.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
They're in the.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Playoffs, and all of a sudden, they're like the three
or four seed.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
They could host Green Bay, they could host Washington like
and then the Rams are like.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
They've got to feel like the Chiefs Kansas City can
win close while they're beat up and they can't get
their act together. The Rams just last night and just Sunday,
you're like, oh, the old line's finally healthy, and they
just kept fighting off, you know, fighting these teams off
as they were getting healthy.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
So they could slide into three.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Tampa we think is in a tough spot this week,
don't win the division, but they're they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Ask yourself this Stafford and McVeigh. Would you rather face them?
I mean outside of Detroit and Philly because of their
preponderance of talent. Okay, I would say the third team
in the league that nobody would want to face is
McVeagh and Stafford. Now again, Detroit and Philly have better players.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
What about Packers coming here in January to so Fi
to face the Rams in a playoff game that ain't
great and you know, standsrout.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
They are looking to get the heck out of that
snow and come west.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
No, no, no, for a weekend. I don't doubt that that's
a problem. It's not a problem. That would be one
of the games of the year. If the Rams can
beat Buffalo at home, they can beat Green Bay at home.
I'm not saying they would Green Bay and the Rams.
I'll take Stafford McVay.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Lafloor versus his buddy McVeigh.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Don't you use your superpowers to get us a suite
at the Rams play?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't do that.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Come on, people, listen to you.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Some some guy Craig over here on some bar in
La it's like, oh, coward.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Picks on whatever, Come on, No, we are we have
to be above that, because we have to be critical.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
You can drop the wheat, you can say I I'm
not above that.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Next time, is Bill Belichick headed to North Carolina?
Speaker 6 (30:00):
This is arguably my favorite story in sports in the
month of December.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I'm obsessed with this colin.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
There's a lot of scuttle but about why wasn't he
drawing interest in the NFL?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Is this really his dream job?
Speaker 6 (30:12):
There is a report out there that indicates Belichick thought
the Bear's job was the most attractive, but he didn't
think he'd get hired by Chicago and that he thought
that they would go after an offensive minded head coach,
which is interesting because you keep saying Rabel rable Land
offensive minded and I don't want.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
To hear this Ben Johnson nonsense. That's not happening.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
What they need. We've lined this up and I think
we're right about this. If you look in the last
seven to ten years on the the Infernos, the franchises
that are a mess. The way to solve them is
not offense or defense. The way to solve them is
a culture changer. Dan Campbell's not a scheme genius. He's
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a culture changer. Hardball's not a scheme guy. He's a
culture changer. Demiko Ryan similarly, he hired to OC. Dimiko
Ryans is a play the game, young, smart, attentive, tough.
He changed the culture, he didn't change necessarily the playbook.
And so I think we have multiple, multiple examples of
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what the Bears need is a forget the schemes, go
hire a greade OC. There's a dozen out there. A
guy that's gonna walk in. I always said Rabel's gonna
Mike Tomlin feel to him, intimidating, no nonsense, loves to
be an underdog, loves to be doubted, literally physically ill
when he loses. I don't know that that guy exists, Clent, No,
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it's variables or the Bears exists. I just don't think.
I don't I don't know if he should take it.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
I'll just remind you he was in Tennessee. They had
a good thing going. He was a number one seed
the GM trade. JJ Browns.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Radle's like, what the hell are you doing? What are
you taking away my best weapon? We got nothing and
then it all fell apart instantly.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Go to the press conference where Rabel had to announce
a Jay Brown was gone. He was ill, he knew
their offense.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Well do you think he wants to do with that
crap in Chicago with Poles and warren't having their own
cold war?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
That's nonsense.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Now, no, quickly on Belichick, Collins so he According to
this report, Belichick was very surprised that nobody in the
NFL had called him leading into week fourteen. You've been
in a lot of contract situations. If somebody's dragging their
feet and you're like, I.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Don't think these guys want me. They're not coming at
to get well and you've got something else.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Over here, Well, you're jumping at it in North Carolina. Bill,
here are the keys.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
You could run the show.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Will you know?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
I think he should have taken the job. Don't wait
for the NFL to call.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I will just say this. What Bill has done is
rehab his image. And this is the second part of
rehabbing it. And it's interesting that Peter Schreger mentioned this.
He is remaining on television why because he's still rehabbing
his image for the NFL. That's why he has that
little addendum in his contract.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
It also helps with recruits. Oh, by the way, he
did you see what Belichick said? Yeah, Belgick, what are
the coaches out there? Are going viral in college football
now all the time. Belichick's doing it every time he talks. Again,
I think the Bear screwed this up.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Royally comment. I don't know what kind of pull you
have in Chicago these days, but.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I don't have any pull anyway.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
They got to Polls and Warren have to fix this
before the end of the season. One's got to go right.
You can't go into the off season just telling you
no good. Rabel's not gonna take that job. With those
guys fighting in the front office. It's very public at
this point, and you're being quiet because you spoke the
Vaibel this week. Anyways, final story, Colin is justin Herbert's
ankle injury looking better. He did miss practice Wednesday, but
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he was back on Thursday, expected back today. I didn't
even realize this, but he can improve on his eleven
game streak without a pick.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Here's Herbert on his non interception streak.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
It's just one of those things where you go play
quarterback and you're not worried about it, and you know
if I throw an interception, it's it is one of
it is. I'm gonna do everything I can't protect the
ball and make sure that you know I'm not putting
the team in arms away. But at the end of
the day, you gotta be agressive down through it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
You gotta take your shots.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
If they're down there and there's tipped ball or or
someone makes a great play, you know that's that's the
way the game goes.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Fourteen touchdowns, one pick this year for Justin Herbert.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
The Jim Harball.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Change has just I mean so much of this organization,
like literally everything got better every day.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
The same players, from the worst defense in the league
to number one with the same players. If anybody ever
gives Brandon Staley the keys to a franchise again, you
deserve everything you get. And I don't know him, but
he came in arrogant, off putting, and the thing got
worse every week. They have the same lineup, at least
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on offense. They got Joel lad McConkie. They added some elements,
but they got rid of Keenan and Mike Williams. So
we all you and I both thought. I think everybody
that follows football knew they'd be a little light on
the perimeter. They're not incapable of winning a playoff game
in the AFC. They will. They do two things well,
I mean this league. If you break down this league,
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do its simple ast. Get the right coach, get a
star quarterback, protect the quarterback, and then get after their quarterback.
They check all those boxes.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
So I'm looking at the playoff rankings now. So Denver
is slotted seven. They have the huge game against Indy.
Let's assume the Chargers get six. They would then go
to likely the winner of the Pittsburgh Ravens in that division.
Chargers at Steelers. We saw that earlier this year. That
was a game Herbert got injured left and Pittsburgh pulled
away late. I don't know that I love that matchup
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for Herbert going to Pittsburgh for a playoff game.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
I would love them to face the texts right right now.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Not good.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
The Chargers right now today are a playoff team.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Yeah you see that changing.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Nope, Harbaugh makes the playoffs worst defense and arguably worst
team in the league first year, just like it did
in San Francisco, just like he did at Michigan first year.
Legit should get JK.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Dobbins back off IR for the playoff. Yep, right, is
that the anticipation?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yep got All my guys are in Hardbaugh, Sean Payton,
Andy Reid, Oh, my guys, Russell Wilson, he's your guide.
Now what he's winning years. Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
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Speaker 6 (36:51):
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or other regional actions. Then it's one of the biggest
games of the year as the Stealers look to continue
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Speaker 5 (37:05):
Markley and the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
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Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, Jet's gonna win that Jaguar game. What do you
think they're I'm pretty interesting.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I hope not.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I mean, seriously, at this point, you hope not.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Yeah, be competitive and lose. Last week's was a perfect example. Yeah,
push Miami. Nobody gets hurt. Everybody's fine. You play well,
you lose, folks you want to have. There's only about
eight first round players this year. It's usually fifteen to sixteen.
It's not a great draft. There's a great corner for Michigan.
There's a great defensive lineman for Michigan. There's one or
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two quarterbacks. There's two great offensive linemen. There is no
Brock Bowers at tight end. It's got some. It's a
lot of defensive end. If you need a rush end,
there's a lot of those. But it's not a stacked draft.
It's a very even draft. So the Raiders are going
to take a quarterback. The Giants will take a quarterback.
My New England takes Mason Graham, the excellent defensive lineman
(38:04):
for Michigan. Carolina gets t Mac the receiver from Arizona. Oh,
I haven't heard you say Travis Hunter yet.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
No Jaguars will get Travis Hunter at five. Titans go
offensive lineman, Jets go offensive lineman, and then I don't
care about Clay.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
By the way, speaking of Travis Hunter, I know nobody
cares about the Heisman Trophy, but I'm surprised you're not
a little worked up that it looks like Travis Hunter
is gonna walk away with the award.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Well, I think the Boise State kid deserves it. Yeah,
but they don't play the same level of schedule.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Okay, that is such a bad argument, Colin. He faced
Oregon in one game and had like a buck sixty.
It was dominant, and the game went down to a
two point game in one game.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
What ha is Travis Hunter done?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Who's he facing better team? Oh?
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Marginally better. It's not like he's facing big ten in
SEC all and every week.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, he's facing on average, much better NFL bodies.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
That is just that's such a hollow. What do you
You just want the guy who's faced the toughest schedule.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
That's who's your Well, the Yankees do really well against
the American League Central. The reason Yankee fans are frustrated
because when they go to the World Series and play
the Dodgers, it's like, oh, we're not closed.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
That's not the Heisman Trophy. That's what the award is.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Who you play matters.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
How much though it's not the number one.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Then they played one good team and he had a
good game.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Yat game, Travis.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Hunters, the best athlete on every fieldy step Song.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Who has had the best season in college football? Just
season the stats, not where they're going in the draft
or with their measurable all.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
It's not just a statistical it is a I mean,
if you want to go to stats, Andrew Luck would
never get votes at Stanford. He was really really good,
but it's like they were good. I'm saying they're good,
but he was taking an academic powerhouse and making them
national championship viable. So it's like, to me, it was
like hot. Tim Tebow was good for a power Urbans
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teams are all great. Tebow was another great.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
By the way, Ashton genty historically great season.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
And oh, by the way, Boise's not only in the
playoff they're hosting they have a bye, Like they're what.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Are they the four seed? Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Me.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
I'm not carry this well.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
I mean, you have to be honest. Ohio State would
be favored by two touchdowns over Boise still.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Got to get to the game. I mean nobody had
Boise top four.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
You always like the little guys.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Yeah, I root for the underdog.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
You're an elitist who love the big powerful bill. Let
me back the billionaires in the NFL, over the players.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I back Texas football, Dodger Yankee baseball, Andy Reid and Mahomes.
I like winners. My time is limited. I'm not gonna
sit and watch a bunch of underdogs fight and lose.
I got nothing against underdogs. But you're Boise State and
this kid's great.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
You had to vote, you'd vote Travis Hunter. Yeah, and
I like to disappointed. I'm disappointed.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Boise State kid would be at least top eight.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Top eight. He said.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
One of the two or three greatest seasons in rushing
history in college.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Football was it was a sense of humor. I like
the kid, but who you play matters.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
It does
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ah, here we go live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd.
Wherever you may be, however you may be listened. Thanks
for making us part of your day. You know, I
was saying this about rock party. When you get the
San Francisco forty nine ers job and you inherit. Christian McCaffrey,
Trent Williams debo, you know, George kittle Bosa. You know
(00:47):
you're basically you got sports car. Just don't run it
into the driveway. You know, It's like, you gotta contextualize
this stuff. You. I'll give you a great example. It's
Caleb Williams. No think about this. What's interesting about Caleb
Millions of the Bears is people were very concerned about
painting stingernails in college, jumping into the stands, getting very
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emotional after a loss with his mom, I had a
general manager who I trust implicitly saying it is a
little off. He can be a little moody on the
sidelines a usc Now. I defended him, saying he was
the first nil superstar. So he's the first guy in
the college campus making five million dollars a year, and
anytime you're the first anything, it's a lot for a
young person to handle, right. So but I would say
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this Caleb this year has actually been despite the nonsense,
he's been great. They've lost seven straight, They've had the
head coach and the offensive coordinator fired. There were reports
they actually considered benching him. The front office has a
power struggle. Oh yeah, they're in the best division in football.
(01:50):
The Chicago Bears have lost a game on a hail Mary,
which is just has to be debilitating to a locker room.
They lost a game to the Lions on out rageously
terrible clock management. They lost a game to the Green
Bay Packers, who seized on an opportunity to block a
kick coaching win. They have been a hasmat spill of
(02:12):
an organization, bad coaching, constant flux, power struggle, and the
kid's been the bright spot. No interceptions in seven straight games,
an NFL rookie record. So you know, listen, let me
tell you Chicago, thank God for the White Sox or
maybe the worst mess in a city right now that
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sports can't get their act together. But he's the bright spot.
I mean, look at what mahomes inherited, the Hunt family,
Andy Reid, Brett, Veach, Travis Kelcey, good old Line Schwartz
with this kid's inherited. So I say this all the time.
You know, some kids grow up with stability in their family,
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and you know they've got wealth and stability and op
opportunities educationally, and some kids have to fight through it.
I'm always more impressed with the kids who have to
fight through instability. So I think Caleb every time he
stepped to the microphone this year, says the right stuff
as as the inferno burns around him, and here's Caleb
trying to keep it positive.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I do understand that, uh, you know, this is one
of my first time kind of being a part of
something like this, of of of losing in this you know,
this street going. So I ask questions to the guys
that you know may have lost a bunch of games
or in a row like this, or you know had
losing seasons, you know, seasons like this happened every once
in a while. And being able to learn from it,
(03:42):
being able to address it, like you spoke about with TV.
He you know, he's addressing it, and uh, you know,
being able to respond is the most important thing.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I have talked to executives and a couple of coaches.
This is a good job despite the mess. And it's
a good job because of Kayleb Williams. Remember Harbaugh last year,
what job did he want? Justin Herbert. For all the
misgivings people have about the Chargers, it was the best job.
And Chicago's the best job because of Caleb Williams. All Right,
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love the picks, desks on fire almost. I gotta get
this through this thing. The blazing five is hot. Here
we go.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Let's blaze it up. Fired up, It's Collins Blazing five.
Chief said Browns.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I have the Browns plus four and keep your eye
on a possible upset. Number three offense in the league
since Jamis Winston arrived, and the number two passing offense
Miles Garrett, tied for second in sacks, and the Chiefs
owen seven against the spread in their last seven games
and three straight games decided by a field goal or less.
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Their offense is not delivering big plays in Kansas City,
and Maholmes has been sacked a career high thirty five times.
Kansas City's struggling four points. It's in Cleveland Brown's to
cover the final twenty eight to twenty seven Chiefs. I'm
taking the points Steelers at egos. I'm taking Pittsburgh plus
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five and a half. They held that great Brown's offense
to fourteen points last week because they were so great
on third down. They are tied for first in the
league in turnover differential. They don't give it away, but
they take it away. Their offense leads the NFL in
time of possession. Their defense is the second best in
the league on third down in Russell Wilson since Week seven,
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top five and six in everything. Meanwhile, the Eagles Jalen
Hurts held under twenty five pass attempts three straight games,
kicking issues with Jake Elliott, AJ Brown drama. Mike Tomlin
is the best underdog coach in NFL history. Not in
opinion of fact. I think it goes down to the end.
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I will take the Eagles to win narrowly again five
and a half way too many points. Take Tomlin and
the Steelers here to cover Bills and Ligas I've flipped.
I like Detroit first. They're coming off rest. The Bills
are coming off a highly emotional game with the Rams.
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Jared Goff at home last five games, seventy eight percent
completion percentage. You thought stafford ate The Bills secondary alive.
Their defense is top three even since the Hayden Hutchinson injury.
The Bills highly emotional on the road again, limited practice time.
They couldn't practice yesterday because a thirty feet of snow.
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So here's a team that has to go on the
road again to the best home team in the NFL.
By the way, the Bills are two to three against
teams with winning records. I thought I like Buffalo the
more I went and looked at this Jared Goff's last
five games. I'm gonna take Detroit to win a great
game and cover thirty three to twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Buccaneer said, charge here.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You know, I really like the Chargers. Tampa Bay's all
beat up. The Chargers, coming off a two point loss
to the Chiefs, had them beat five and two over
their last seven. Their defense is fantastic. It's number one
in the league fewest touchdowns allowed, number one in the
red zone. It is hard to get into the end
zone on the Chargers and Justin Herbert Holly Molly eleven
straight starts without a pick. That's tied for the longest
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streak in league history. The fucks are beating the Giants, Panthers,
and Raiders. Baker Mayfield back to back games with multiple interceptions.
Their defense is not good. This is a mismatch of defenses.
And I get the better quarterback, and I think I
get the better coach, and it's in LA. What don't
I get here? I'm gonna take the Chargers to win it.
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Twenty eight twenty three Coach, Defense, quarterback, home Field.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Edge Packers at Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Green Bay is a better team. I'll lay the two
and a half points at Seattle. They're just a better team.
They're coming off extra rest. I love offensive coaches off
xtra the rest. They're seven and two since the start
of October, both losses to Detroit. Detroit's pretty good nine
to one when holding opponents under thirty. Seattle's not going
to score thirty points. Josh Jacobs this is now a
power run team. Four straight games for Jordan Love over
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one hundred passer rating like Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia. They're saying, listen,
you don't need to throw at thirty eight. We'll throw
it twenty six. Seattle, they're an average home team. Three
and four Gino this year. I know we all love Gino.
Fourteen touchdowns, twelve picks hasn't been very effective at home.
They're beat up in the backfield. I like the Packers
to win, and I like the Packers to cover in
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a wildly entertaining game twenty eight to twenty four. So
if you look at my picks again, I really like these.
We're getting down to the home stretch. I'm taking the
Browns and I'm taking the Steelers as dogs. But I
like the Lions, the Chargers, and the Packers. I think
in all those games. Buffalo I liked initially, but now
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they can't practice. Now they're off a highly emotional game.
You saw how bad the Rams were in the first
half last night. You can't have teams playing highly emotional
games then crank it up and say hey, do that again.
And Detroit is absolutely great at home. That's my blazing
five and with that, Peter Schreger wonderful job, joining us
live from New York. The NFL kickoffs Sunday's eleven AM Eastern.
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He replaced me because he's much better. Okay on that show.
Here we go, shregs. Let's start with this is it's
really funny if you do the deep dives. So the
Rams came into the season. The old line was a mess.
And Stafford's not running a rap. You know, he's an
older quarterback. He's a pocket guy. Now the old line's healthy.
Cooka's healthy, Cooper's healthy, Kyan Williams is healthy. I'm watching
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them last night. I'm watching I'm watching Buffalo. When Stafford
doesn't get sacked, they don't lose the last two years.
I don't know. I look at this team. Maybe they're
not Philadelphia or Detroit. Are they the third best team
in the NFC? Your thoughts on this?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Well, the last thing the NFC contenders w to see
was that logo come storming down the stretch. And here
they are. They won three games in ten days. They
won a game against the Saints in New Orleans, and
I'm gonna people watch that the defense close the.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Door at the end.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Then they win forty four to forty two against the Bills.
Then four days later go play and win twelve to six.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Last night.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
It is it is awesome how they can win such
different ways. I spoke to Sean McVay this morning and
he's like, this is the stuff that corsens our team,
so that when we do have to go into January,
the young guys see that we can win forty four
forty two in a shootout, or we can win the
rain twelve to six, and our defense lead the way.
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Here's the beautiful part about this Rams season. The next
three games they play at the Jets in ten days
here in New York. They can even lose that game,
it doesn't matter. They control their own destiny. As long
as they beat Arizona and Seattle in two home games
end the season, they're the NFC West winners. They beat
Seattle in a clutch game against them in Seattle in
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overtime a couple of weeks back, and they control the
tie breakers in a lot of ways. If they beat
the Cordinals in two weeks so they controlled their own destiny.
They were three and six last year and.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Made the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
They were zero in too this year and written off
this year, and they're already in a spot where they
know what they can do and they get a very
important ten day rest.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yes right now, So yes, Nickveig's feeling good.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
And I don't think the Lions, I don't think the Packers,
and I certainly don't think the Eagles want to see
that McVeigh and that logo come playoff time.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yep, they're finally healthy. So Bill Belichick's got a little
addendum in his contract. I don't know if you saw
that yet, that he can leave June second. Now he's
obviously not leaving this year, but it does kind of
tell you stuff that ends up in contracts. People fight
for to get into contracts. And I've said Shrike's I
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believe this college football now has no structure. Bill thrives
on it. I think he'll do It'll be so much
fun for a year. But I don't know. It doesn't
feel like the runway at Chapel Hill is a five
six year deal. Your thoughts It was.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
A five year deal.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Everyone reported as a five year deal, but we also
knew that it took about three days to be finalized.
I reported on Fox NFL pickoff on Sunday with rolled
eyes from everyone on set that this was very legitimate.
And my key point, which has not been a popular take,
was that the NFL has rejected Bill Belichick. And now
everyone's story yesterday was that Belichick is rejecting the NFL
and this is his way to say, you know, we don't.
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I'm done with the end. It was mutual on that one.
Now what's interesting is I've heard he's still on board
to do the Manning cast and still on board to
do McAfee's show, which means that he's still gonna be
able to promote the happy, warm, fuzzy Belichick and that
if for a year he can do this.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Now, I don't know if he.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Saw Cliff Kingsbury's comments. We're like, why would Cliff Kingsbury's
comments on Belichick. They asked him about it yesterday and
Cliff was like, I went back to college for a
year last year. It's not fun, it's it's not a
good place to be. I will not believe Belichick is
coaching college until I actually see him coach a college game.
Now that's extreme, but I think there's a lot of
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us saying just as much as Michae Lombardi and Belichick
are out there and they're talking about how they're going
to redo this and they're gonna bring structure, and it
is a hell hole in a lot of ways in
that college game right now, as far as it's a
young man's game. And you you know what is Belichick
gonna do The first second that transfer portal opens up
in eleven players look at him. I'm like, look, I
wasn't into the do your job thing. I'm out like
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five years a long time now. Granted, he comes in there,
and he provides wonderful opportunities financially and economically and also
employment wise for a lot of its friends and family.
So you're going to see a lot of people whose names,
you know, whether it be Patricia or McDaniels, or whether
it be Lombardi, or be a Lombardi son, or a
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Belichick son, or be a McDaniel's brother. There's gonna be
a whole cast of people that are coming with him
that are all amazing football minds and want to coach
and want to develop. Are they undervaluing the toxicity of
the college game and just how cut third it is.
In the last year we have seen Jeff Hafley, who
was what you thought he was a great coach at
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BC or not leave to be a defensive coordinator in
the NFL. That's a demotion in a lot of ways.
You've seen Chick Kelly leave being a head coach at UCLA.
I just want to coach offense. Let me be an
offensive coordinator Ohio State. And we have heard coach time
and time again say I just don't like where this
thing is going. Right, Belichick diving in at age seventy
three with a crew that's coming with him from the
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NFL and wants to revolutionize this thing. Let's check in
and see how that's going. And if and if my
last point on this and I'm sorry call it. I'm
doing like a monologue on your show. You're the king
of the monologue. If you had told Belichick in January
that this would end up him going to the fourth
ACC team in North Carolina, that's how he would have
scripted it. I don't think he would have said, yes,
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So let's slow down on the this is his dream
job and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So we got I was talking to Mike Rabel yesterday
who's a great guy, bottom line guy, and we were
talking about job openings, and you know, I'm not gonna
say a lot about it, but you know, one of
the things I said, Mike is with Bill going to college,
you're you're the culture changer. Your last year's Harbaugh. Uh.
And by the way, a lot of people don't know this.
Vrabel finished second with the Chargers. A lot a lot
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of people don't know that. They they called him and said, yeah,
oh yeah, he was. They were going Mike Babel and
then they went with Jim Harbaugh and he you know,
I'm sure he understood that. But but it's interesting. Last
year there was one great opening because of Justin Herbert.
This year Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence, but both of
them is a little toxicity around the job. And then
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there's the Jets where Aaron's not the long term play,
but he's talented for a year. Give me your take
on the league interest in your NFL roll a phone
these days, gauge the Jets interest. Where is it on
the pecking order to candidates?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, look, I think there is something to being an
NFL head coach and an NFL general manager where there's
only thirty two of those jobs. And if they call you,
listen and you take the interview.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I also think that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You look at these different organizations, they all have their flaws.
Right now, there is no shiny job this season right now.
And you know, you look at the Jets and you
could say, oh, the owners think you unders think the
owners gave Joe Douglas everything he could have possibly wanted,
as far as the green light to go get Devontae
Adams midseason, this mid season probably being lost, Go get
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Aaron Rodgers, do all these things and give him.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Six years to win.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
So look, the thing with the Jets job is that
you've got to hire both a GM and you have
to hire a coach. And now I don't know if
what he's watching right now and he's the owner. One
of the key things that GM role is going to
be managing up and I don't know if everyone understands
what that means, but if you've ever worked in an office,
you understand that sometimes there's someone above you on the
org chart that you need to manage that relationship too,
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and sometimes that relationship is protecting that person from things
that he doesn't even know. The GM role is going
to be as much about getting the right players and
managing the salary cap, but also making sure that that
building is as tightly lipped, but also that owner is
as equipped and given all the information he needs where
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he feels confident to just let you do your thing.
The managing up part is going to be huge. Now,
who's the quarterback next year? Does Rogers come back? I'm
not going to say he doesn't. I do think they're
going to have to figure out a plan after Rogers,
and that's going to probably be addressed in the draft
or free agency this season as well.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Listen, Shrag's the one thing that knocks you out of
the Super Bowl bubble is paying a B quarterback a
plus money. You can make a lot of mistakes in
this league. You make that one, you're the Cowboys. I'm
looking at Rock Purty weird numbers that I put on
the screen, fourth quarter trailing, fourth quarter, one possession. He's
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a backup, and he came into this league with all
these Hall of famers. They're now old, brittle, expensive, and
you got some guys now quitting in the game. Are
we sure Perty's getting whatever he wants? Because I couldn't
pull the trigger on that contract.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
No, it's hard, and I would just say this, having
spoken to Lynn Shano Shanahan, like, I don't think people
realize just what a year from hell this has been
for San Francisco. Before the season started they were dealing
with the contracts with IUK and Trent Williams, and then
right before the eve of the start of season their
first round pickets shot. We have dealt with real tragedies.
I'm talking about players who have had children pass away
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during the season, like beloved players, and then all of
these injuries from the football standpoint that I almost want
to give all of them a mulligan, including proc Party.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And yet Purdy.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Has played well this season in spots he has do
I sign that check for sixty million dollars? That's hard
for me, And yet that is why John Lynch and
Kyle Shanahan are paid amongst the highest as gms and
head coaches to go make those decisions.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Jeduork will play.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
A role on that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
But this has to be one of the hardest decisions
to make because Party is everything you want in a leader.
He is everything you want in a kid. But he
has this seventh round pick kind of thing around him
where you're like, but is he that guy? And it
doesn't help that his backup last year, Sam Darnold, when
given all the tools around him, is in the MVP
conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, Shreigs, it's great seeing you keep crushing it. Can
I yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Can I tell a quick story.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I go to this, you know, Hollywood spot, Craig's, and
Craig the owner pulls me aside and is like, do
you follow Colin Coward's you know, five picks every week?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I'm like, I followed.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
He's like, I've been following it for ten years. He's like,
there is nobody better than Colin when it comes to picks.
I go Craig from Craig's. I'm going to send that
to Colin and I'm going to let him know on
his show on Friday.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, it's been a turbulent year, not for Craigs. It
still has the best chicken farm, first or second best
chicken parm My buddy David slid down in Manhattan Beach,
So go to if you ever won Hollywood and you
want the Hollywood experience. Craigs is just fantastic. So they'll
shout out to him. His chicken parm is better than
my picks this year and that's nice of you to say, buddy.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Okay, all right, we'll stay to that mine too, dude.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I took the Jets to be the one seed, so.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
We're good, okay, good stuff. Yeah. If you ever come
out here and you're like, you want to do that
Hollywood thing, Craigs is really the way to do it,
low key Hollywood. Well, we were helping our audience here.
Some people come out and you know, this is the
way with j Mac. That's what we do. We connect
with the people.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
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Speaker 1 (20:54):
You know, it's interesting. The college football Next Friday, Notre
Dame hosts Indiana and starting next ally it's our first
ever college football playoff. There's crazy games. Ohio State Tennessee
is unbelievable. That would be like a great New Year's
Day Bowl game in years past. So many good games
next weekend, So this week's at NFL. J McK and
I talked about this. The early window on Sunday is
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probably the bleakest early window, and there'll be some close finishes,
but the afternoon window in the Sunday night is really interesting.
So I can't wait for that. And I will say this,
the ratings came out. NFL ratings now eighteen point one
million a game. Sixty five of the seventy NFL games
have been ranked as the top shows on TV. We've
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never had more good quarterbacks in their prime. I mean
last night, I didn't turn it off. I mean, it
was your kind of classic divisional rival on a short
week game. But the media is always pushback at power,
and that's not a bad thing. But Roger Goodell is
the commissioner of the most powerful business outside of maybe Amazon,
in the country, and he's dealt with Black Lives Matter,
CTE controversy, we had social changes, We've had COVID, we've
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We've just had a lot of things that commissioners big,
not all bad things that commissioners have had to deal with.
And I think Roger Goodell has navigated a multitude of
cultural changes, that CTE issue that was bad and overlooked
for a long time by a previous commissioner or two.
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And here he's made the pat interesting. He tinkers, he evolves,
and the NBA. Meanwhile, ratings are down forty eight percent
in the last twelve years, and they have fallen off
a cliff this year. And Adam Silver's solution is, let's
make the courts brighter. And I like the NBA, but
the All Star Game is now embarrassing, and I think
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load management is a shame on the league. It is
a It is a really bad look for a family
of fo to go to a game and Jannis doesn't
play or mb doesn't play. I'm sorry, go ask the Democrats.
Be warned. Once you detach from regular people in America,
you will pay a price. And it is not easy
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to run these leagues. Rob Manfred I know Rob. I
would support Rob. You know he gets nothing but criticism
because he's like, Hey, we got to make our games faster.
We got to get stars at the plate. So I'm
gonna change a pitch clock a regular season. I'm gonna
put a guy in extra bases as second base to
speed up. Nobody wants a four and a half hour
(23:37):
game on a Tuesday night in Cleveland. I'm gonna take
the defensive ship. Rob Manfred now is considering the gold
knit bat, which has got a Willy Wonkett feel to it,
but In the end, Rob Manfred has television networks going
to him saying, we're not going to renew including this one.
Make the game faster. He did, Stars got more advance,
(23:59):
they got rid of defensive shift, and Fox got great ratings.
So my take is nobody likes any president. They don't
like Trudeau in Canada, they don't like whoever is it
in the office here, Nobody likes anybody, and commissioners get
nothing but crap. But the NFL because there's a lot
of regulated violence. Dana White has to deal with this.
Hockey commissioners have to deal with this. Nobody's tackling baseball
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players very often. And he's had to deal with social changes,
cultural changes, COVID and I think they've done a great
job to navigate it. It's not perfect, but the media
too often pushes against power, and I do think there
has to be a safeguard for power, for the pharmaceutical industry,
our government, FBI. I am for that, and I think
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the media has a real role in that. But I've
always thought the sports media just takes shots and a
lot of these commissioners, and especially Goodell, this is a
hard league. It is a hard league, and it's got
a connectability to the American Midwest and regular people. And
if you start looking at the markets that are winning
in this league, Tiny Baltimore, Buffalo, Green Bay, Kansas City
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connect a Bill led T. Everybody feels like, Hey, my
team cares. My guys play hurt. And you know, they
ask a lot of their employees, They ask a lot
of the players. You're not gonna be healthy after week before,
you're gonna be dinged up. Your knee's gonna be sore.
But they reward them handsomely. They don't pand her, and
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the players keep rewarding us time and time again. That
game last night's on a short week, that was physical,
that was intense. It was a division rivalry, and it
wasn't the prettiest game. But I didn't turn it off.
I watched it to the very end. Jay mcklin news, No, no, no,
this is the herdline news.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Yill, let's get to that Rams Niners game.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
I know you watched the whole thing, but my guys,
I'm sure a lot of America fell asleep.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Zero touchdowns Colin unbelievable, especially given what happened for both
these teams last week.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, Niners, looked great.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Rams scored forty four boys.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
How about Kyron Williams, who's tough. He's a good player,
tough runner.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Yeah, he had a good game.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
And after the game, Kyrien Williams a nice segue there,
it's almost like you've done this before, spoke to how
big of a win it was for the Rams.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
It means everything, honestly, because I'm literally the only way here.
Our pilots said, go go sweep the Niners, and he
said that. I was like, danmg, we really could sweep
the Niners. I don't think I've done that since I've
been here. So being able to do that, knowing how
good of a team they are, and knowing the history
with just the two organizations on these huge any of
those shows that we're the big brothers.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I love what's happening in the NFL. What's specific, Derrick Henry,
Kyron Williams, Sa.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Kwan bark Oh, the running back resurgence.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, the SUVs of the league. They got a block,
they got to catch passes, they got to take on
oncoming linebackers and safeties to protect their quarterback. They are
the suv, the grinders of this league. They don't demand
the foot. Kyen Williams is quietly he and Stafford quietly
are the soul of this team. When he's healthy and
Stafford doesn't get sacked, they win.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
How Pooka not in there?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
No, No, Pookah's great, but remember you can roll over coverage.
It's you know, Puka had one big catch the whole night.
Kyron Williams, how many carries he have the last two weeks.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
That's That's one of the things I worry about though.
He's get like twenty three carries for like eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Years trying to move. They used Blake Korum, they didn't
use him early. They're using him more. But if you're
watching the NFL, it is a resurgence of running the
football show.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
One show in America called that they saw this coming.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You knew you. I will give you credit. You said
six months ago you've heard of the housing bubble. You
kept saying we are moving into a wide receiver bubble.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Well, Cole Comet is like making more money than sa
Quon Barkley and Derek Henry. So some ridiculous tight end
statle like Kyron will That's unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Karen Williams, twenty nine carries in back to back games.
I mean that is old Schoobadoloy letting him into the brown.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
But you know, quietly, it's helping mcvey's defense because it
chewing clock. The Rams are slowing down a bit. If
you noticed, they're not like uptempo. Our defense is.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
A little leaky and it's young.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, so they're on the up and up Rams. By
the way seven and two.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Since the Buye and Frager laid it out, this game
against the Jets does not matter. They could rest their starters,
so they're healthy for the Arizona Seattle games to end
the season. And if they beat Seattle, they win the division.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
They're in the.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Playoffs, and all of a sudden, they're like the three
or four seed.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
They could host Green Bay, they could host Washington like
and then the Rams are like.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
They've got to feel like the Chiefs Kansas City can
win close while they're beat up and they can't get
their act together. The Rams just last night and just Sunday,
you're like, oh, the old line's finally healthy, and they
just kept fighting off, you know, fighting these teams off
as they were getting healthy.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
So they could slide into three.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Tampa we think is in a tough spot this week,
don't win the division, but they're they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Ask yourself this Stafford and McVeigh. Would you rather face them?
I mean outside of Detroit and Philly because of their
preponderance of talent. Okay, I would say the third team
in the league that nobody would want to face is
McVeagh and Stafford. Now again, Detroit and Philly have better players.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
What about Packers coming here in January to so Fi
to face the Rams in a playoff game that ain't
great and you know, standsrout.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
They are looking to get the heck out of that
snow and come west.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
No, no, no, for a weekend. I don't doubt that that's
a problem. It's not a problem. That would be one
of the games of the year. If the Rams can
beat Buffalo at home, they can beat Green Bay at home.
I'm not saying they would Green Bay and the Rams.
I'll take Stafford McVay.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Lafloor versus his buddy McVeigh.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Don't you use your superpowers to get us a suite
at the Rams play?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't do that.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Come on, people, listen to you.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Some some guy Craig over here on some bar in
La it's like, oh, coward.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Picks on whatever, Come on, No, we are we have
to be above that, because we have to be critical.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
You can drop the wheat, you can say I I'm
not above that.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Next time, is Bill Belichick headed to North Carolina?
Speaker 6 (30:00):
This is arguably my favorite story in sports in the
month of December.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I'm obsessed with this colin.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
There's a lot of scuttle but about why wasn't he
drawing interest in the NFL?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Is this really his dream job?
Speaker 6 (30:12):
There is a report out there that indicates Belichick thought
the Bear's job was the most attractive, but he didn't
think he'd get hired by Chicago and that he thought
that they would go after an offensive minded head coach,
which is interesting because you keep saying Rabel rable Land
offensive minded and I don't want.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
To hear this Ben Johnson nonsense. That's not happening.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
What they need. We've lined this up and I think
we're right about this. If you look in the last
seven to ten years on the the Infernos, the franchises
that are a mess. The way to solve them is
not offense or defense. The way to solve them is
a culture changer. Dan Campbell's not a scheme genius. He's
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a culture changer. Hardball's not a scheme guy. He's a
culture changer. Demiko Ryan similarly, he hired to OC. Dimiko
Ryans is a play the game, young, smart, attentive, tough.
He changed the culture, he didn't change necessarily the playbook.
And so I think we have multiple, multiple examples of
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what the Bears need is a forget the schemes, go
hire a greade OC. There's a dozen out there. A
guy that's gonna walk in. I always said Rabel's gonna
Mike Tomlin feel to him, intimidating, no nonsense, loves to
be an underdog, loves to be doubted, literally physically ill
when he loses. I don't know that that guy exists, Clent, No,
(31:42):
it's variables or the Bears exists. I just don't think.
I don't I don't know if he should take it.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
I'll just remind you he was in Tennessee. They had
a good thing going. He was a number one seed
the GM trade. JJ Browns.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Radle's like, what the hell are you doing? What are
you taking away my best weapon? We got nothing and
then it all fell apart instantly.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Go to the press conference where Rabel had to announce
a Jay Brown was gone. He was ill, he knew
their offense.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Well do you think he wants to do with that
crap in Chicago with Poles and warren't having their own
cold war?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
That's nonsense.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Now, no, quickly on Belichick, Collins so he According to
this report, Belichick was very surprised that nobody in the
NFL had called him leading into week fourteen. You've been
in a lot of contract situations. If somebody's dragging their
feet and you're like, I.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Don't think these guys want me. They're not coming at
to get well and you've got something else.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Over here, Well, you're jumping at it in North Carolina. Bill,
here are the keys.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
You could run the show.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Will you know?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
I think he should have taken the job. Don't wait
for the NFL to call.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I will just say this. What Bill has done is
rehab his image. And this is the second part of
rehabbing it. And it's interesting that Peter Schreger mentioned this.
He is remaining on television why because he's still rehabbing
his image for the NFL. That's why he has that
little addendum in his contract.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
It also helps with recruits. Oh, by the way, he
did you see what Belichick said? Yeah, Belgick, what are
the coaches out there? Are going viral in college football
now all the time. Belichick's doing it every time he talks. Again,
I think the Bear screwed this up.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Royally comment. I don't know what kind of pull you
have in Chicago these days, but.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I don't have any pull anyway.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
They got to Polls and Warren have to fix this
before the end of the season. One's got to go right.
You can't go into the off season just telling you
no good. Rabel's not gonna take that job. With those
guys fighting in the front office. It's very public at
this point, and you're being quiet because you spoke the
Vaibel this week. Anyways, final story, Colin is justin Herbert's
ankle injury looking better. He did miss practice Wednesday, but
(33:31):
he was back on Thursday, expected back today. I didn't
even realize this, but he can improve on his eleven
game streak without a pick.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Here's Herbert on his non interception streak.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
It's just one of those things where you go play
quarterback and you're not worried about it, and you know
if I throw an interception, it's it is one of
it is. I'm gonna do everything I can't protect the
ball and make sure that you know I'm not putting
the team in arms away. But at the end of
the day, you gotta be agressive down through it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
You gotta take your shots.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
If they're down there and there's tipped ball or or
someone makes a great play, you know that's that's the
way the game goes.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Fourteen touchdowns, one pick this year for Justin Herbert.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
The Jim Harball.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Change has just I mean so much of this organization,
like literally everything got better every day.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
The same players, from the worst defense in the league
to number one with the same players. If anybody ever
gives Brandon Staley the keys to a franchise again, you
deserve everything you get. And I don't know him, but
he came in arrogant, off putting, and the thing got
worse every week. They have the same lineup, at least
(34:37):
on offense. They got Joel lad McConkie. They added some elements,
but they got rid of Keenan and Mike Williams. So
we all you and I both thought. I think everybody
that follows football knew they'd be a little light on
the perimeter. They're not incapable of winning a playoff game
in the AFC. They will. They do two things well,
I mean this league. If you break down this league,
(34:59):
do its simple ast. Get the right coach, get a
star quarterback, protect the quarterback, and then get after their quarterback.
They check all those boxes.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
So I'm looking at the playoff rankings now. So Denver
is slotted seven. They have the huge game against Indy.
Let's assume the Chargers get six. They would then go
to likely the winner of the Pittsburgh Ravens in that division.
Chargers at Steelers. We saw that earlier this year. That
was a game Herbert got injured left and Pittsburgh pulled
away late. I don't know that I love that matchup
(35:31):
for Herbert going to Pittsburgh for a playoff game.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
I would love them to face the texts right right now.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Not good.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
The Chargers right now today are a playoff team.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Yeah you see that changing.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Nope, Harbaugh makes the playoffs worst defense and arguably worst
team in the league first year, just like it did
in San Francisco, just like he did at Michigan first year.
Legit should get JK.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Dobbins back off IR for the playoff. Yep, right, is
that the anticipation?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yep got All my guys are in Hardbaugh, Sean Payton,
Andy Reid, Oh, my guys, Russell Wilson, he's your guide.
Now what he's winning years. Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the
Herd Line news.
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Speaker 6 (36:51):
Sunday on Fox and NFL doubleheader starts with Cowboys, Panthers
or other regional actions. Then it's one of the biggest
games of the year as the Stealers look to continue
their incredible season against the mv The candidate take one.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Markley and the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Check local listings for the games in your area only
on box.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, Jet's gonna win that Jaguar game. What do you
think they're I'm pretty interesting.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I hope not.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I mean, seriously, at this point, you hope not.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Yeah, be competitive and lose. Last week's was a perfect example. Yeah,
push Miami. Nobody gets hurt. Everybody's fine. You play well,
you lose, folks you want to have. There's only about
eight first round players this year. It's usually fifteen to sixteen.
It's not a great draft. There's a great corner for Michigan.
There's a great defensive lineman for Michigan. There's one or
(37:43):
two quarterbacks. There's two great offensive linemen. There is no
Brock Bowers at tight end. It's got some. It's a
lot of defensive end. If you need a rush end,
there's a lot of those. But it's not a stacked draft.
It's a very even draft. So the Raiders are going
to take a quarterback. The Giants will take a quarterback.
My New England takes Mason Graham, the excellent defensive lineman
(38:04):
for Michigan. Carolina gets t Mac the receiver from Arizona. Oh,
I haven't heard you say Travis Hunter yet.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
No Jaguars will get Travis Hunter at five. Titans go
offensive lineman, Jets go offensive lineman, and then I don't
care about Clay.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
By the way, speaking of Travis Hunter, I know nobody
cares about the Heisman Trophy, but I'm surprised you're not
a little worked up that it looks like Travis Hunter
is gonna walk away with the award.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Well, I think the Boise State kid deserves it. Yeah,
but they don't play the same level of schedule.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Okay, that is such a bad argument, Colin. He faced
Oregon in one game and had like a buck sixty.
It was dominant, and the game went down to a
two point game in one game.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
What ha is Travis Hunter done?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Who's he facing better team? Oh?
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Marginally better. It's not like he's facing big ten in
SEC all and every week.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, he's facing on average, much better NFL bodies.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
That is just that's such a hollow. What do you
You just want the guy who's faced the toughest schedule.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
That's who's your Well, the Yankees do really well against
the American League Central. The reason Yankee fans are frustrated
because when they go to the World Series and play
the Dodgers, it's like, oh, we're not closed.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
That's not the Heisman Trophy. That's what the award is.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Who you play matters.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
How much though it's not the number one.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Then they played one good team and he had a
good game.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Yat game, Travis.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Hunters, the best athlete on every fieldy step Song.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Who has had the best season in college football? Just
season the stats, not where they're going in the draft
or with their measurable all.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
It's not just a statistical it is a I mean,
if you want to go to stats, Andrew Luck would
never get votes at Stanford. He was really really good,
but it's like they were good. I'm saying they're good,
but he was taking an academic powerhouse and making them
national championship viable. So it's like, to me, it was
like hot. Tim Tebow was good for a power Urbans
(39:57):
teams are all great. Tebow was another great.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
By the way, Ashton genty historically great season.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
And oh, by the way, Boise's not only in the
playoff they're hosting they have a bye, Like they're what.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Are they the four seed? Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Me.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
I'm not carry this well.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
I mean, you have to be honest. Ohio State would
be favored by two touchdowns over Boise still.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Got to get to the game. I mean nobody had
Boise top four.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
You always like the little guys.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Yeah, I root for the underdog.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
You're an elitist who love the big powerful bill. Let
me back the billionaires in the NFL, over the players.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I back Texas football, Dodger Yankee baseball, Andy Reid and Mahomes.
I like winners. My time is limited. I'm not gonna
sit and watch a bunch of underdogs fight and lose.
I got nothing against underdogs. But you're Boise State and
this kid's great.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
You had to vote, you'd vote Travis Hunter. Yeah, and
I like to disappointed. I'm disappointed.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Boise State kid would be at least top eight.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Top eight. He said.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
One of the two or three greatest seasons in rushing
history in college.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Football was it was a sense of humor. I like
the kid, but who you play matters.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
It does
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