March 18, 2024 • 40 mins
Where Colin was right and where he was wrong
With Aaron Donald recent retirement from the NFL, the Rams may never recover from this massive hole he leaves behind
Guest: Albert Breer
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go at the Monday live in Los Angeles.
It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us a part of
your day, Jamack, We're gonna have Albert Rear here in
about five minutes on all the free agency stuff which
percolated all last week, landing spots for everybody. And I
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didn't think we had. I thought we had a couple
of winners. Dallas Cowboys, you know again, they loved their
own players, didn't do squat. That would be the loser
for me and Jmack March madness. Fill out your brackets.
I fill out one America's honesty broker. If I don't win,
I don't win. You fill out what fifteen eighteen twenty depends.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, I mean, listen, I've told the theory.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You go to a bar.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You try to meet women when you're in your twenties.
If you talk to one girl, maybe you get her number.
You talk to fifteen girls, you're gonna get several numbers.
You're probably gonna win more brackets if you fill out
fifteen than if you fill out one.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But isn't the fun of it not flooding the market
but instead going with stuff? You truly believe him?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
No, that's not at all the fun.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
The fun is watching four games, having fifteen brackets, live betting.
I'm gonna be in a Calcutta this week is big betting,
and then a player pool for points.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm doing all of it. This is this is my
super Bowl. It's like a month of basket.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's just an orgy.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Can I say that?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm not really? But you think so? We'll just go
with it all, right, Here we go where Colin was right,
Where Colin was wrong? On a Monday fire away.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Justin Fields goes to the Steelers for a sixth round pick,
could be a four if he plays a lot. But
in the end, I scoffed at the reports that he
could get a first round pick. I said, listen, if
you can get a second or a third, make the deal,
hang up the phone, send the facts. Do it. I mean, listen,
he got traded after Gardner, Minshew and mac Jones. Reality is,
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his second half and fourth quarter numbers are anemic. When
he's off the script, it's bad. He's still trying to
figure out how to play, and eventually you got a
pay him pretty soon. So I just don't I think
he deserves like a Sam Darnold, there's enough good highlights
in moments. He deserves a second shot under a different
staff and a different environment. I'm excited to watch him,
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but I never bought into this first second round pick stuff,
you know, especially as the season went on, and then
in week eighteen he gets out played badly by Jordan Love.
It's like, if you get a second round pick, you
stole it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I've said through the years in my life, Chicago's always
been a bad landing spot for quarterbacks. But I think
they've actually done a really good job. I think Caleb
Williams has a chance to succeed pretty early DeAndre Swift.
They got him very good pass catching running back Keenan
Allen's an excellent possession receiver. They already have DJ Moore.
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They bring in offensive coordinator Shane Waldron, who made Gino
Smith the Pro bowler. So this is the most offensive
talent Chicago's had in some time. Cole Kamet's a tight end.
Gerald Everett's another tight end. Very solid BB plus tight ends,
so there's no and they have a good left tackle.
So my take is this is a way better space
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for Caleb Williams than it was for justin fields Like,
Chicago's got really good offensive pieces. Now everybody in their division, Minnesota, Green, Band,
Detroit has great offensive pieces too, But the reality is
you're not looking to be a dominant team in your one.
You just want to make Caleb Williams work, and he should.
He's got talent. They got some pieces on the perimeter.
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The O line is not a rebuild. They found their
left tackle. I like what Chicago has.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Where Colin was right, I said, keep.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Your eye in the Minnesota Vikings. Whoever they draft is
gonna they're gonna go get a quarterback in the first round. Well,
what did they do this weekend? They made changes. They
now have two first round picks. What are they going
to do with two? They're using it as ammo to
move up if they have to to get one quarterback. Now,
they're not going to get to the first or a
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second pick, I doubt, but they have so many weapons
offensively they can give up both their first to move
up from like you know, eleven to twenty three to
seven if they have to and give up a second
round pick. They also went and got defensively in free agency,
some nice b pieces like the Texans did last year.
So they did what we thought. They get Sam Darnold.
They are accumulating first round picks to move up and
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get a quarterback, and increasingly JJ McCarthy is the name I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Hearing where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I never thought the Steelers would move off Kenny Pickett
this soon. I said, they're loyal to a fault. He's
a Pittsburgh kid. He played in the same stadium in college.
They're like the Packers. They don't do you know, the
Packers don't do big free agency, and the Steelers are
loyal for them, and I think it's the right move.
It's nothing against Kenny Pickett, but I see him as
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like a bottom eight starter in the league. Maybe with
the right offensive coach, he could move the chains, but
mostly kind of a backup third round pick. He went
in the first round. He was overdrafted. I got it
they needed a quarterback. Big Ben was aging, but for
them to move off him, He's got thirteen touchdowns and
thirteen picks in his career thereabouts, he's not the guy.
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The AFC's loaded. You're in a division with Lamar Jackson,
Joe Burrow and Deshaun Watson, a couple of sharp offensive coaches,
and John Harball. That's not good enough. You got to
make a move. They did. I'm surprised where Colin was
right the Cowboys. How long have I said this? They
fall in love with their draft picks. They're two insular.
They didn't do anything. Oh, they re signed a long snapper,
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so right now the Cowboys had the fewest moves in
free agency and no cap space, the double whammy. I
think they're a worse team today. Tyron Smith gone. Didn't matter.
He didn't start every game. The games he started, he
was great. Tony Pollard gone, Michael Gallup gone. I don't
think there as offensively gifted as they were. Those are
three decent offensive pieces. If ceedee lamb twists and ankle
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who's their top weapon? All hat no Cattle. Always been
a huge brand, but run like a small brand.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I heard and thought that one of the two pass
rushers for the Chargers would be moved on, either Joey
Bosa or Khalil Mack. Instead, they moved off both receivers
and they kept both pass rushers. Now, both the pass
rushers edge guys took pay cuts, and Keenan Allen would not.
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But listen boss telling you Bosa and Khalil Mack are physical.
I'm not messing with physical players. So another reason they
may have done this is Keenan Allen I think they
wanted to keep and wouldn't take a pay cut. It's
also a loaded wide receiver draft and they have a
top pick. So my take is Harbaugh's like, hey, we
can get receivers in the draft. I can't get a
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Khalil Mack and a Bosa. I can't get that kind
of you know, pass rush necessarily in this draft. So
a little surprised there. I thought they would move probably
Bosa because he's a bit fragile and you could get
her first or a second for him, but they.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Kept him both. Where Colin was right set for years.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
If you don't get Draymond Green, you don't get basketball.
He's the line of demarcation. It's not just scoring in
this league. Saturday Night against the Lakers was so money Green.
It was crazy. Twelve rebounds, thirteen assists and the highest
plus minus in the game. Draymond Green's an absolute catalyst
since coming back from suspension, He's seventeen and ten. Folks,
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you got to move on the Jordan Pool punch, which
it happened, and Steve Kerr was matter that it got
out that it happened. Michael Jordan punched Steve Kirk. It happens.
You don't see ninety percent of it. He's not perfect,
he's been suspended. He I'm not saying he's a perfect player,
but Saturday Night is what he does and it's why
they won.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Lancerline, I trust HIMNFL dot Com on Twitter this weekend,
I had a discussion with a pecision coach in the
NFL that doesn't need a quarterback and he couldn't stop
gushing about JJ McCarthy his vision, timing, and intangibles. Well,
my X ray quarterback vision is apparently got a blind spot.
I thought he was too thin and very Bama like,
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where he was dependent on a great coach, a great defense,
a great run game, and never played from behind. But
I am clearly wrong. NFL people really like him. I
will say at the combine he came in about twenty
pounds heavier than I thought he was, so that does matter.
I'm not into spindlee quarterbacks, and he can in about
two hundred and twenty three pounds, which is Aaron.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Rodgers' weight, where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Finally, Aaron Rodgers is now officially out as a presidential
vice president candidate. I've said this, green Bay was just
tied the headlines. Do you want to play football? Do
you want to be about football or not? Green Bay
has Jordan Love, He's about football. The Jets have a
headline maker. I think Aaron's a smart guy and a
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terrific quarterback. But part of this I kept saying was
if Aaron's your quarterback, there's always going to be drama.
He hangs out, he has discussions with people that monetize headlines.
Nothing wrong with that business. We sort of do that.
But you say stuff, you talk politics, you talk back scenes.
Then you can't all criticize your team and your organization
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for getting away from football, your entire off seasons, get
away from football. You're a headline maker rarely with football.
Where Colin w right, where Colin was wrong? Plenty of both.
On a Monday Albert Breyer Monday Morning quarterback now joining
us life. All Right, the dynasty's over. I've said this before.
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Scotty Pippen did not like the MJ documentary. Belichick's not
gonna like this. I understand it. You have sources. There's
always a documentary. I can remember, going back years ago,
my wife and I watching a documentary and you know,
maybe she's more of a bleeding heart than me, and
she's like, that guy's innocent. And I said to her, Hey,
who gave the insight or the scoops? They get the
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documentary lean. So that's the reality of all documentaries. They
lean one way or another based on who gives them information.
So did you think this was anti Belichick or reasonably
framed as a coach that sort of was seeking control
at the end, didn't have it, could not fix his
Brady stuff. Well, how did you view it?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I think there was some stuff that was accurate about
the end and the way that it ended. Yeah, do
I think they pan him into harsh light? Yes, and
as part of that his fault.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
My impression watching Bill was he went into the interview
room intent on getting information and giving none, right, Like
I I think the reason he did the interviews, and
this is just my own personal opinion, was so he
could figure out what everybody else was going to say
about him, and he wasn't going to give oxygen to
a documentary that I think he would probably think was
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a campaign video for Robbert Craft to get in the
Hall of Fame. So like, I just think the premise
of it and the fact that it was connected to
the book, the Jeff Bendict book, which you know, initially
you know, had been sort of pitched as a as
a Craft biography. I think the history of it, in
the background of it made Bill skeptical. And I think
because Bill was skeptical going in, he didn't want to
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help with the effort. He didn't want He did want
to know what was in there, but he didn't want
to help with the effort, which I think allowed for
him to be painted in a bad.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Light and he doesn't come out of it looking great.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
And I think a lot of it's unfair, but again,
you know, the documentarians did give him the chance to
defend himself.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And the other thing is, whoever wins the war writes
the book. And Brady leaves and win a Super Bowl,
and Brady leaves in Belichick's dynasty crumbles and is bad.
So that's part of it is this. You know, whoever wins,
they get they get the best chapters, and they get
to write the book. So now the question is Belichick's gone.
We'll go ahead.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
No, I was saying, like, but don't you think, like
I just don't think enough times passed. I think that's
a big part of the problem. Don't you like the
last dance twenty years have passed, right? Yeah, Like, I
think maybe the most compelling figure and the whole thing,
the guy who's the most honest, the most real, was
Drew Bledsoe. Right, Well, why is Drew Bledsoe the most honest,
the most real, the most compelling character even though he
wasn't a part of this outside of the first two
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years of it.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
The reason why, I think is because well A he
was pivotal in the whole thing, right, but b because
he's had a chance to digest it, because he's had
a chance to pull away from it, because he's had
a chance to make amends with some of the people
that maybe he had a problem with back then. For
a lot of people that were involved in this, and
really the main protagonists, the three of them, Craft and
Brady and Belichick, they haven't had the time to separate
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from that yet. Yeah, So I do think the lack
of a passage of time affects the production of this,
you know.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
And again, I think one of the reasons why the
Last Dance was so.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Good is because all those people, all those Bulls people
had a chance to pull away from it. The Patriots people,
a lot of them at least especially from the second
iteration of the dynasty, hadn't had that time to take
a deep breath and sort of contextualize and internalize all
of it.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So, you know, I look at Justin Fields and there's
a story that many teams were interested. So I'm not
going to doubt a reporter who has a history of
you know, some accuracy here. But I think to myself,
if I'm Justin Fields, I come from a defensive culture
and a defensive coach where they like to spend money
on defense. I'm not going to do that again. Go
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to the AFC, which is a tougher I go to
the best division in football, the AFC, which is tougher,
and be a backup to Russell Wilson, Like if he
had a lot of options and that was the best option.
I'm just saying Russell's the starter here. He's getting quarterback
one snaps early, is he not?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
He is?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
And I think Justin's situation was sort of I think
generated by the way the quarterback market went. I don't
know if this is really anybody's fault, but you know,
Chicago viewed at the beginning their two most viable suitors
for Justin We're going to be Atlanta and Pittsburgh. But
they had to wait in the top of the quarterback
market to shake out to see the opportunity there. Well,
Atlanta signs Kirk Cousins and Pittsburgh signs Russell Wilson. And
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and then you know, you have teams on the other
side of it. You know, the Raiders signing Gardner Minshew,
the Vikings signing Sam Darnold, the Patriots signed Jacoby Brissett. Well,
those teams, you know, all had needs to hold on
to draft picks, the Raiders and Patriots to build their rosters,
the Vikings potentially to trade up. So you know, those
these teams, naturally we're going to go well after quarterbacks
that weren't going to cost them draft picks. So I
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think the Bears got caught in between those two markets
to some degree, and it left them at the end
of this with Okay, like what do we do? And
they wanted to do right by Justin and I think
in this situation, this is my take on it.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Colin.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I think Justin, after everything he'd been through in Chicago
the last three years, probably valued stability and there's no
more stable place in football than Pittsburgh. And the offensive
thing is an issue. But remember they're bringing in a
new offensive coordinator in Arthur Smith, coming over from Atlanta,
who was in Tennessee all those years, who once resurrected
Ryan Tannehill's career, and who has built different offenses for
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different types of quarterbacks and made it work around guys'
skill sets. And so let's say it doesn't work with
Russell Wilson. Let's say it doesn't go well for the
first four, six, eight weeks of the season, which is
certainly possible, and justin shows in practice like I can
really do it. And now you've got a coordinator who
can really build an offense for that type of quarterback,
and you know a player who's coming into this and.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
The bar is sort of low.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
So you know, I think if you look at the
circumstances and you look at all the individual pieces that
went into it does make some sense.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So I for years I've said that the Cowboys are
a great brand, but they feel like a corner store.
They love their draft picks, they draft them and pay them,
and it's so weird to me. They don't make any
real moves. They lose Tyron Smith, who when he started
was good, Tony Pollard was a two but he was something,
and Michael Gallup, who has moments and knows the system.
They're all gone. Now they're going to be reliant on
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the draft, which is a good wide receiver draft. But
the offense. Now, there's clear lines that Dak needs a
run game to win. He just does that. The numbers
are stark. If he gets one hundred plus rush yards
in support, he wins. Under he doesn't one fifty, he
almost always wins. So I look at it and I think,
to myself, they're just not that. I mean in the NFC,
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where you have these teams that were good last year
but could potentially be great. Green Bay Minnesota is now
stacked for Darnald San Francis, Rams are getting better, and
I look at Dallas and I think, what are they?
I mean, they lose three offensive guys vander Esh, no
money up against the camp. What are they?
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I think?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I mean, I think sometimes we make this mistake too, right,
like the inactivity and free agency usually has teams that
draft ball that have guys to pay, and that's sort
of where Dallas is right now. I think to some
degree they're being held hostage by the fact that they
they know they've got three really big contracts coming down
the pike. One is, of course Dak, another one in
CD lamb who's going into a contract year. And then oh,
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by the way, Michael Parsons could cost you more than
the Niners paid Nick Bosa, and you know you could
wait a year, but is he going to be amenable
to that?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Right?
Speaker 5 (17:45):
So you could have three massive contracts coming down the pike,
and I think that always was going to prevent them
from being big players.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
In free agency.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
The one thing I would look at here, they've always
done a good job drafting offensive lineman. They've generally done
a good job drafting running back, so I think you
can take care of that. And the other thing is,
and I think I brought this up to you last week,
they've been creative on the back end of the off season.
Before last year they went out and got Steph on
Day Steph on Gilmore, I believe, right before on the
draft or during the draft, and I could see them
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taking a creative swing like that before. So I think
the first day of free agency was always going to
be sort of a non starter for them because of
the situation with Prescott, because of the situation with Lamb,
because of the situation with Parsons. And again, I would
trust them to get the lineman right, I would trust
them to be able to find a running back, and
I wouldn't rule out a creative swing coming Monday morning.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Quarterback Albert Breer Good Senior as always, man, appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Stopping by, all right, thanks Colin.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, so have you watched the Apple TV Dynasty thing?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I told you that I would. I have not got
around to it, you know, we're moving.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
There's a lot going on coaching my kids in the
playoffs of basketball. March Madness is here. It's an off
season project for me. Am I missing out greatly. I
feel like I've got all lot.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
No, no, no, because it's it's it's not time sensitive.
You could watch it in four months. It's fine. And
I tend to watch streaming stuff only after football. After football,
I write down the list. I do it every year.
I got about seven to eight. I got through all.
I have one more to get through. So what's the
next one? Oh, it's called My wife and I were
talking about last night, the god Something. It's a it's
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a strange it's the Godfather. That's no, no, no, it's
it's something. It's it's a wine business and it's a
global story, family power, money, wine business, patriarch passing. I
forget what it's called. But that's the next one I'll watch.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
That's gonna be happy to know.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
The first thing I had, the one thing that I
took priority with the move. I made sure that the
cable company was there the day, the geek squad to
set up our televisions.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And all that, So that was not priority for me.
You know you gotta be able to watch.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
The absolutely and I I agree on something.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
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Speaker 1 (20:08):
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about the bubble teams that didn't get in, folks, college
basketball is a water down version of what it was
twenty years ago. None of these teams are great. Yukon's
the best I saw, Houston's pretty good. These are not
great teams. It's okay teams, top coaches are leaving, transfer,
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portal chemistry, cohesions not great. Somebody was complaining about Saint
John's yesterday, and I'm like, at one point, they lost
eight of ten games. Rick Patino publicly lamented their lack
of athleticism multiple times, and they had no big wins
out of conference. But they almost beat Yukon. Is not
a reason to get into the tournament. None of these
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teams are special. Again, generationally. There were years when Duke
and Carolina and Kansas would be Georgetown and Syracuse would
bring back four NBA players all would have been first rounders,
and they all come back. It is a watered down
version college football, where you have to stay three years minimum.
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Most guys stay four. You have a roster on Saturday,
when Michigan's playing Georgia or Alabama, you have twenty five
NFL guys on the field. Anybody that's any good. Last year,
the top four players in the NBA draft came from
four different leagues. Players don't want to play college basketball
if they're elite globally, and that's nothing against the sport.
I still like watching big games, but arguing about a
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team that doesn't get into this field, these teams wouldn't.
They'd be eighth place teams years ago, twenty years ago.
This sport, more than any sport in my life. Basketball's quality.
College basketball's quality has plummeted over the last twenty years
because of the one and done culture and because the
NBA has always seen college basketball, for some weird reason,
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as the enemy. To me. College football furnishes the NFL
with all these microwavable stars put your arms around college
football if you're the NFL. The only reason I know
who Zion is is because a duke. I don't know
anything about Jalen Green. He went to the G League.
And I don't sit around watching Rockets games. So in
the end, I just can't. I don't want to hear
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your argument why a bubble team didn't get in. Seton
Hall's not win in more than a game. If they
got in, we're all gonna be okay. J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
News no, no, no, this is the herdline news.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like Satan John Beatino this year twice, and I don't
follow Saint John's closely twice made jokes about his team
having no athletes. They lost eight of ten. I looked
it up yesterday. I'm looking for all their big out
of conference wins. I couldn't find one.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
You know, when it felt like that discussion about oh
they got snubbed, that's I think you're spot on. I
would say the last like five years, that's meant a
lot less fit ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
The outrage we don't have. I mean, it's it's we
just don't have great teams anymore. We have great stories
like Villanova winning the Carolina Villanova game was a great
game and they're a great story. There are no great teams.
There's nobody with five. Think about how good college basketball
was FI Slama Jama had Clyde Drexler and a kim Olajue.
They didn't win a title. Saint John's had Mark Jackson,
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Willie Glass, Bill Wennington, Chris Mullen. They didn't win a title.
I mean, you're talking about teams with four or five
NBA guys sometimes couldn't get to the Final four. I'm
not losing sleep over a Saint John's team that Rick
Betino says we have no athletes on.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
The ross because I know you love a good conspiracy
theory more than a couple people who I respect are
saying it's weird that the m Mountain West Conference, which
has been total trash in the tournaments, they got six
teams in six So guess who there are TV deals with?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You want to take a gander. CBS and the Big
East kind of got snubbed.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
The Seaton Hall should have been in Saint John's is
an omission based on like every number imaginable. They don't
have a deal with CBS, they have it with Fox
and a lot of people are saying, oh, the Mountain
West Curry favoring. Hey, we have a deal with CBS.
Can you get our garbage teams in there? And I'm
fading several of them in the til Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
No, no. The play by gamblers is fade Mountain West teams,
whether it's right or not. I read that repeatedly yesterday.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yes, yes, yes, all right, let's get started with the
NBA the paper clips. Boy, man, I love this team.
In the first half, they are imploding. Colin They got
smashed by the Hawks yesterday, losing by seventeen, fourth loss
in five games. They've struggled since the All Star break.
Paul George is sounding a little ticked off.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Do you feel like this team feels like it can
kind of just turn it around whatever it needs to
right now? I mean, that's what we're uppearing to look like,
which is.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Not good.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Not good.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
We want to be a team that's assistant, and you know,
we want to establish an identity. I while we spoken
about having an identity, and I think it's extremely important
we're you're a team that has an identity. Team no
teams know what they're going up against, and right now
(25:08):
I don't think we have an identity.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
There's about fifteen games left in the season.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They're not locked into the four.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Or five against the Pelicans. Pelicans are kind of spicy,
Brandon Inger playing.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, I've been hearing Nyon, You've been telling me good series.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'll be interested.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I'm a good series. But that's not a championship team.
And they're fun team. Pelicans are a fun team. They
do like I've watched them this year. They're fun to watch.
But here's the earththic. Why are the Clippers? Why are
they imploding now? So I'll defend them. Oh, a bunch
of veteran players. They're gonna get into the playoffs. And
their takeaway is it's hard to get Kawhi and James
(25:45):
Harden all gashed up and geeked up for these games
against Atlanta. Is that I think they'll flip a switch
veterans in. This team's got like veterans. Veteran teams tend
to flip switches when they think they're already in. I
mean Denver losing to Dallas. It's I think so I
think the Clippers will be fine. I think this is
a little bit of the dog days, where you know,
(26:07):
It's like in baseball, when you know you're in you're
the Braves. You know you got a seven game lead.
You go on an eight game road trip and guys
are just not zoned in. They've got a little Nixon
Cotts and you're like, I'll take the day off. The
Braves will be fine. My take is the Clippers are
gonna win a playoff series. This is just a we
know we're gonna get in. It's more of a matchup thing,
and our guys are out having fun in Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Great point.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And listen, college basketball over the weekend, Houston lost a
lot of the top teams. UNC goes down there in
they know they were in the tournament. They beat up
everybody during the season, kind of in Koasmo and says you, that's.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
A great point by you.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know, rare, good point by you, and well done there, coward.
I actually like that.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Next up, you're not gonna like this.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
So Shador Sanders had a really nice season at Colorado
twenty seven touchdowns, three picks, but his dad spent a
lot of time recently discussing Shador's NFL future, and he
is now talking about which franchisees he does not want
drafting his son.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
Let me tell you something that I have a problem with.
And this kid can float out play. I think he's
the best one on the board this year for sure.
A kid that's coming from California for the last couple
of years, right and went to Oklahoma, and that is
not terribly cold.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Chicago's cold.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Man.
Speaker 9 (27:24):
You gotta think about that kind of stuff when you're
taking a young man. Like see when you take a
guy from Ohio State and you bring the Chicago. Okay,
I can understand that, but from California to Chicago, Like,
I don't want my kid going nowhere. Cole next year.
(27:44):
He grew up in Texas, played in Jackson, playing Colorado
seasons over before it gets cold Colorado.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I don't I'm just thinking way ahead.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
I don't want that for him.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well this Brett far Baron, Rodgers, Tom Brady, big Bet,
and just a few. I don't know if it matters much.
Russell Wilson's best years we're in Seattle, where it's windy
and cold by November. I would say this where weather
matters is if you're not terribly strong armed, like for instance,
Green Bay, Jordan Love, Farvan, Rodgers, all coming out of
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college had good arms. Pittsburgh, you know big Ben Bradshaw,
big arms. Brady developed into a strong armed guy. Drew
bled so before him big arm. I do think if
you get a guy that comes out of the draft
and you're like, not a huge ar, like bo Nicks,
doesn't have a huge arm, would he be better served Tua?
Tua's much better served in Miami than Foxborough. Josh Allen,
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by the way, Josh Allen can play anywhere. Mahomes can
play anywhere. So I do think if I'm a court,
if I'm like Teddy Bridgewater coming out of college not
a big arm, I'd love him in a dome. AFC
South NFC South two.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Wasn't like a top pick Schdor Sanders based on what
we've seen, looks like a top five guy.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And Colin this sounds like Dion already starting to say.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I don't want my kid going to the New York
Giants next year when they're drafting third overall.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
That sounds That's what it sounds like to me, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
He's trying to pull a John Alway and an Eli Manning,
which is fine. I just wonder how franchises are gonna
feel a year out.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Doing that well. And also even in New York. September
and October and New York are gorgeous, beautiful love the fall.
November is hit and miss. But I've spent two Thanksgivings
in New York and it was chilly, but it wasn't awful.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Come on, I double dog dare you to go to
the Macy's Day parade in New York.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
You have to wear like seven layers colin two whip gloves.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
All.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's okay. It's football. It's okay to be cold. You
don't want heavy wind.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Not so to Dion. He doesn't want his kid going
there throwing football.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, I'm saying ten in New York, ten of the
seventeen games are in very beautiful weather. Two or three
are in cold weather. And you may get remember schedule.
You don't play all your games in December at home.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Also true, But like you said.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Tom Brady, Gay, well that's play homes. Yes, that's different.
I think I wanted Shaduur Sanders play. I didn't think
he had a weak arm. I thought he I think
he's really.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Talented, he's a big time prope.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, I don't see him as a guy that's smaller,
weak arm. I see him as a playmaker who's super
accurate on any platform. He throws left, right, moving pawk.
I like him a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
It's early but Chaedere or the kid at Georgia.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
And Chandur is to me is kind of carrying Colorado,
where the kids at Georgia come out being carried by
the talent. And I do this. I think this is
George's best quarterback. Yeah, I mean, maybe ever except Stafford.
Stafford's the best. But I mean they've had a lot
of you know, steps in Bennett good solid, but more
of a college guy. Aaron Murray's good, good, good good,
(30:50):
but I mean kind of feel like heavy college guys.
Chadeur's carrying his second college program, like carrying them. I
like that big time talent.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Final story, How about this.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Jimmy Garoppolo is reportedly signing a one year deal with
the Rams. Jimmy G will back up Matt Stafford. He
was Jimmy G was released by the Raiders after one
season did not go well.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Love this move.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
We had heard last week that the Rams were looking
at Zach Wilson possibly love I love this move, you do.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Jimmy's been in a ton of big games. This system
is quarterback friendly. Jimmy's had injuries. What have the Rams
spent their money on last couple of years? Offensive line?
Pooka Cooper Cup they've got they just went and got
another tight end. The kid out of from Seattle, Stanford kid.
They've got a great running back Kyron Williams. So they
(31:42):
have nice offensive beaches. No, they went coup. It's a
kid from Stanford Colby uh Park Park in Parkans Yeah.
A nice player, willing blocker. So, I mean I I
kind of look at the Rams and I think to myself,
nice fit, very accurate distributor of the ball. It's a
very old line. He's not running for his life. Knows
(32:02):
the division. I like this movie, like this is Rams. Uh.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
You mentioned Aaron Donald earlier. I know you're hot on
the Rams.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I'm gonna give you my strong opinion next Thome.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Okay, good, I need to know if you're backing down.
I mean, Aaron Donald is irreplaceable. Wait a minute, Okay,
let's just get to your take.
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My take, sizzling take. J Mack with the news.
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Speaker 1 (33:31):
So Aaron Donald retired from the Rams. You know, I
love McVeigh and Stafford and last Snead, I think it's
Stan Cronkey. I think when it comes to owners, quarterbacks,
GMS coaches, only the Chiefs you can argue have more
AA pluses. I think the Rams are incredibly well run.
Everybody bailed on him last past season, and I said, no, no, no,
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they got too many smart people in the building. They're
going to be fine. And they made the playoffs and
what was viewed as a rebuilding year, but they lost
airon Donald. So think about this in an offensive league.
When Tyreek Hill, a superstar wide receiver, fastest player in
the NFL, left the Chiefs, my takeaway that day was,
Kansas City'll be fine. They'll use the draft picks they'll
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hit in summer, They'll be fine in an offensive league.
My take on the Rams a plus head coach, a
plus quarterback, a weapons. I don't know if they can
overcome Aaron Donald leaving. I don't know. There have been
only three defensive players in my life, hundreds of offensive players.
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Three defensive players in my life that just are different.
Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White, and Aaron Donald. They look different.
Here's how dominating Aaron Donald was even last year when
he was double teamed, double teamed, he had an eighteen
percent win rate pass rush win rate. That's better than
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the average defensive lineman just being singularly blocked. So he's
better against double teams. And there is video last year,
multiple video of Aaron Donald being triple teamed, and at
times I saw one piece of video quadruple team. You
don't block him singularly, he's unblockable. And again I could
(35:21):
name fifty offensive players that left. I mean, Aaron Rodgers
is great, he leaves Green Bay, They're fine. I'd argue
they're better this past year with Jordan Loved than they
were with Aaron Rodgers leaving. When Brett Farv left and
Aaron took over, within a year and a half, the
Green Bay Packers were better. Peyton Manning all Timer leaves,
Andrew Luck comes in, they're just as good. Those are
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legendary quarterbacks. But when Reggie White was a Packer, the
entire time he was there, they had top ten defenses.
When Reggie White left, they had won top ten defense
in six years. Because you had a double and triple
team him. He made everybody around him better. Lawrence Taylor
in his final year with the new York Giants. Now,
his last couple of years with the Giants, he was
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not the same player. He was still good, but he
wasn't like the nine years of the best defensive player
in the history of the world. In his last year
in New York, the Giants won eleven and five and
had the number one rated defense, and he wasn't the
same LT when he left three straight years, missed the playoffs. Okay,
so when you get these guys, I mean, they're just
I can't even think of the fourth. People say Dion Sanders,
(36:25):
who was a great corner, but he didn't like he
was allergic to contact. Dea didn't want to tackle anybody.
You could run at Don run right at him, and
he was great. He's the best corner ever, I'm not
disputing that. But that's not LT that you could literally
throw the ball to the other side of the field.
You can be the greatest corner in the NFL. Offenses
now are so sophisticated. You can just stay away from
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Sauce Gardner, Patrick's or tam We got all sorts of
great cornerbacks on terrible teams. You know what. The Rams
aren't since they moved to Los Angeles, They're never terrible.
And the Packers never were with Reggie White, and the
Giants were with Lawrence Taylor. There's nothing you can do.
They don't need a great pass rusher, doesn't need anybody else.
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Even a great receiver needs a quarterback. A great quarterback
needs protection. A left tackle better if he has a
run game. A great defensive lineman who gets to the
quarterback and has to be double and triple teamed needs
nobody else. And I think there's three players in my life,
Reggie White, LT and Aaron Donald. That's the best I've
ever seen. There's other guys. John Randall for the Vikings
(37:30):
was great. I've seen a lot of great defensive linemen,
a lot of great corners. I mean Ed Reid at safety,
and Ronnie Lott and Troy Palomolo at safety, Dion Sanders
at corner. You know, I didn't see Dick Budkeis, Brian
Erlacker at linebacker, ray Lewis at lineback. Had been a
lot of dudes. They don't look like this. So there's
video last year, and I remember thinking this when I
(37:51):
was because I you know, when you live in a city,
you watch that NFL team more. We all watch the
red zone. We all watch NFL, but when you live
in your city, if you live in Atlanta, you see
can practice as you read more Falcon stories, and I
remember thinking, because the Rams hitting a couple of third
round defensive linemen this year, so it's pretty good. But
I remember thinking to myself, if I was Aaron Donald,
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wouldn't it be frustrating to face a double and triple
team every snap?
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Like?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
How many years could you do that without just saying
can we get another defensive tackles? So I'm not double
team and I'm not saying he was frustrated with the Rams,
but I do think it also signifies the new NFL
where NFL players offensive guards now make more money than quarterbacks.
(38:38):
Many quarterbacks did ten years ago. Guards make fifteen sixteen million.
The good Rams are now paying two guards a ton
of money. Nobody would do that ten years ago. It's
not what you spent your money, but it's an offensive league.
And I do think what has happened when you start
looking at the quality of life of defensive and offensive
linemen is a lot of the CTE stuff in the
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head trauma stuff, and your hands are mangled and your
shoulder surgeries. A lot of it is just that that
beat down for O and D lineman. And now with
the exploding money in the NFL, Aaron Donald can play
ten years and he doesn't have to go to a
fourth or a fifth contract. So in the big picture,
I think it's better for NFL players, especially linebackers, running backs,
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O lineman D linemen in these major collision positions to
not have to go to that final contract. So you're
playing at thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty nine. It's probably
macro better for the league and better for the players.
But don't kid yourself. Aaron Donald last year could not
be singularly blocked. He was better statistically on double teams
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than other defensive linemen single blocked. And if you're a
Rams fan and you've watched him and you've gone to
a Rams game, there is just nobody on the planet
that is that strong and that quick. There's nobody. He'll
do these drill that you'll get video of these little
you know, like the tire drills. You're going in and out.
He moves like a running back. And Dave Wanstadt, who
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a friend of this show others, Dave recruited him to
Pitt and I remember saying, how long did it take
when you brought him in? He wasn't a five star
guy to know he was good, and he's like about
one practice and when he was drafted with the RAMS
very early. The late Chris Mortenson, who recently passed an
All Timer his very rookie season, MORET was reporting there
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were leaks out of the RAMS camp. People are going
to be mad they passed on Aaron Donald. You got one,
two looks at him at practice. It just doesn't look
like anything you've ever seen in your life. And that's
among other great professional athletes. Aaron Donald All Timer
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go at the Monday live in Los Angeles.
It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us a part of
your day, Jamack, We're gonna have Albert Rear here in
about five minutes on all the free agency stuff which
percolated all last week, landing spots for everybody. And I
(00:46):
didn't think we had. I thought we had a couple
of winners. Dallas Cowboys, you know again, they loved their
own players, didn't do squat. That would be the loser
for me and Jmack March madness. Fill out your brackets.
I fill out one America's honesty broker. If I don't win,
I don't win. You fill out what fifteen eighteen twenty depends.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, I mean, listen, I've told the theory.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You go to a bar.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You try to meet women when you're in your twenties.
If you talk to one girl, maybe you get her number.
You talk to fifteen girls, you're gonna get several numbers.
You're probably gonna win more brackets if you fill out
fifteen than if you fill out one.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But isn't the fun of it not flooding the market
but instead going with stuff? You truly believe him?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
No, that's not at all the fun.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
The fun is watching four games, having fifteen brackets, live betting.
I'm gonna be in a Calcutta this week is big betting,
and then a player pool for points.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm doing all of it. This is this is my
super Bowl. It's like a month of basket.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's just an orgy.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Can I say that?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm not really? But you think so? We'll just go
with it all, right, Here we go where Colin was right,
Where Colin was wrong? On a Monday fire away.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Justin Fields goes to the Steelers for a sixth round pick,
could be a four if he plays a lot. But
in the end, I scoffed at the reports that he
could get a first round pick. I said, listen, if
you can get a second or a third, make the deal,
hang up the phone, send the facts. Do it. I mean, listen,
he got traded after Gardner, Minshew and mac Jones. Reality is,
(02:21):
his second half and fourth quarter numbers are anemic. When
he's off the script, it's bad. He's still trying to
figure out how to play, and eventually you got a
pay him pretty soon. So I just don't I think
he deserves like a Sam Darnold, there's enough good highlights
in moments. He deserves a second shot under a different
staff and a different environment. I'm excited to watch him,
(02:42):
but I never bought into this first second round pick stuff,
you know, especially as the season went on, and then
in week eighteen he gets out played badly by Jordan Love.
It's like, if you get a second round pick, you
stole it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I've said through the years in my life, Chicago's always
been a bad landing spot for quarterbacks. But I think
they've actually done a really good job. I think Caleb
Williams has a chance to succeed pretty early DeAndre Swift.
They got him very good pass catching running back Keenan
Allen's an excellent possession receiver. They already have DJ Moore.
(03:18):
They bring in offensive coordinator Shane Waldron, who made Gino
Smith the Pro bowler. So this is the most offensive
talent Chicago's had in some time. Cole Kamet's a tight end.
Gerald Everett's another tight end. Very solid BB plus tight ends,
so there's no and they have a good left tackle.
So my take is this is a way better space
(03:41):
for Caleb Williams than it was for justin fields Like,
Chicago's got really good offensive pieces. Now everybody in their division, Minnesota, Green, Band,
Detroit has great offensive pieces too, But the reality is
you're not looking to be a dominant team in your one.
You just want to make Caleb Williams work, and he should.
He's got talent. They got some pieces on the perimeter.
(04:01):
The O line is not a rebuild. They found their
left tackle. I like what Chicago has.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Where Colin was right, I said, keep.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Your eye in the Minnesota Vikings. Whoever they draft is
gonna they're gonna go get a quarterback in the first round. Well,
what did they do this weekend? They made changes. They
now have two first round picks. What are they going
to do with two? They're using it as ammo to
move up if they have to to get one quarterback. Now,
they're not going to get to the first or a
(04:29):
second pick, I doubt, but they have so many weapons
offensively they can give up both their first to move
up from like you know, eleven to twenty three to
seven if they have to and give up a second
round pick. They also went and got defensively in free agency,
some nice b pieces like the Texans did last year.
So they did what we thought. They get Sam Darnold.
They are accumulating first round picks to move up and
(04:51):
get a quarterback, and increasingly JJ McCarthy is the name I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Hearing where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I never thought the Steelers would move off Kenny Pickett
this soon. I said, they're loyal to a fault. He's
a Pittsburgh kid. He played in the same stadium in college.
They're like the Packers. They don't do you know, the
Packers don't do big free agency, and the Steelers are
loyal for them, and I think it's the right move.
It's nothing against Kenny Pickett, but I see him as
(05:20):
like a bottom eight starter in the league. Maybe with
the right offensive coach, he could move the chains, but
mostly kind of a backup third round pick. He went
in the first round. He was overdrafted. I got it
they needed a quarterback. Big Ben was aging, but for
them to move off him, He's got thirteen touchdowns and
thirteen picks in his career thereabouts, he's not the guy.
(05:40):
The AFC's loaded. You're in a division with Lamar Jackson,
Joe Burrow and Deshaun Watson, a couple of sharp offensive coaches,
and John Harball. That's not good enough. You got to
make a move. They did. I'm surprised where Colin was
right the Cowboys. How long have I said this? They
fall in love with their draft picks. They're two insular.
They didn't do anything. Oh, they re signed a long snapper,
(06:02):
so right now the Cowboys had the fewest moves in
free agency and no cap space, the double whammy. I
think they're a worse team today. Tyron Smith gone. Didn't matter.
He didn't start every game. The games he started, he
was great. Tony Pollard gone, Michael Gallup gone. I don't
think there as offensively gifted as they were. Those are
three decent offensive pieces. If ceedee lamb twists and ankle
(06:25):
who's their top weapon? All hat no Cattle. Always been
a huge brand, but run like a small brand.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I heard and thought that one of the two pass
rushers for the Chargers would be moved on, either Joey
Bosa or Khalil Mack. Instead, they moved off both receivers
and they kept both pass rushers. Now, both the pass
rushers edge guys took pay cuts, and Keenan Allen would not.
(06:58):
But listen boss telling you Bosa and Khalil Mack are physical.
I'm not messing with physical players. So another reason they
may have done this is Keenan Allen I think they
wanted to keep and wouldn't take a pay cut. It's
also a loaded wide receiver draft and they have a
top pick. So my take is Harbaugh's like, hey, we
can get receivers in the draft. I can't get a
(07:19):
Khalil Mack and a Bosa. I can't get that kind
of you know, pass rush necessarily in this draft. So
a little surprised there. I thought they would move probably
Bosa because he's a bit fragile and you could get
her first or a second for him, but they.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Kept him both. Where Colin was right set for years.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
If you don't get Draymond Green, you don't get basketball.
He's the line of demarcation. It's not just scoring in
this league. Saturday Night against the Lakers was so money Green.
It was crazy. Twelve rebounds, thirteen assists and the highest
plus minus in the game. Draymond Green's an absolute catalyst
since coming back from suspension, He's seventeen and ten. Folks,
(07:58):
you got to move on the Jordan Pool punch, which
it happened, and Steve Kerr was matter that it got
out that it happened. Michael Jordan punched Steve Kirk. It happens.
You don't see ninety percent of it. He's not perfect,
he's been suspended. He I'm not saying he's a perfect player,
but Saturday Night is what he does and it's why
they won.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Lancerline, I trust HIMNFL dot Com on Twitter this weekend,
I had a discussion with a pecision coach in the
NFL that doesn't need a quarterback and he couldn't stop
gushing about JJ McCarthy his vision, timing, and intangibles. Well,
my X ray quarterback vision is apparently got a blind spot.
I thought he was too thin and very Bama like,
(08:42):
where he was dependent on a great coach, a great defense,
a great run game, and never played from behind. But
I am clearly wrong. NFL people really like him. I
will say at the combine he came in about twenty
pounds heavier than I thought he was, so that does matter.
I'm not into spindlee quarterbacks, and he can in about
two hundred and twenty three pounds, which is Aaron.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Rodgers' weight, where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Finally, Aaron Rodgers is now officially out as a presidential
vice president candidate. I've said this, green Bay was just
tied the headlines. Do you want to play football? Do
you want to be about football or not? Green Bay
has Jordan Love, He's about football. The Jets have a
headline maker. I think Aaron's a smart guy and a
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terrific quarterback. But part of this I kept saying was
if Aaron's your quarterback, there's always going to be drama.
He hangs out, he has discussions with people that monetize headlines.
Nothing wrong with that business. We sort of do that.
But you say stuff, you talk politics, you talk back scenes.
Then you can't all criticize your team and your organization
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for getting away from football, your entire off seasons, get
away from football. You're a headline maker rarely with football.
Where Colin w right, where Colin was wrong? Plenty of both.
On a Monday Albert Breyer Monday Morning quarterback now joining
us life. All Right, the dynasty's over. I've said this before.
(10:11):
Scotty Pippen did not like the MJ documentary. Belichick's not
gonna like this. I understand it. You have sources. There's
always a documentary. I can remember, going back years ago,
my wife and I watching a documentary and you know,
maybe she's more of a bleeding heart than me, and
she's like, that guy's innocent. And I said to her, Hey,
who gave the insight or the scoops? They get the
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documentary lean. So that's the reality of all documentaries. They
lean one way or another based on who gives them information.
So did you think this was anti Belichick or reasonably
framed as a coach that sort of was seeking control
at the end, didn't have it, could not fix his
Brady stuff. Well, how did you view it?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I think there was some stuff that was accurate about
the end and the way that it ended. Yeah, do
I think they pan him into harsh light? Yes, and
as part of that his fault.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
My impression watching Bill was he went into the interview
room intent on getting information and giving none, right, Like
I I think the reason he did the interviews, and
this is just my own personal opinion, was so he
could figure out what everybody else was going to say
about him, and he wasn't going to give oxygen to
a documentary that I think he would probably think was
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a campaign video for Robbert Craft to get in the
Hall of Fame. So like, I just think the premise
of it and the fact that it was connected to
the book, the Jeff Bendict book, which you know, initially
you know, had been sort of pitched as a as
a Craft biography. I think the history of it, in
the background of it made Bill skeptical. And I think
because Bill was skeptical going in, he didn't want to
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help with the effort. He didn't want He did want
to know what was in there, but he didn't want
to help with the effort, which I think allowed for
him to be painted in a bad.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Light and he doesn't come out of it looking great.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
And I think a lot of it's unfair, but again,
you know, the documentarians did give him the chance to
defend himself.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And the other thing is, whoever wins the war writes
the book. And Brady leaves and win a Super Bowl,
and Brady leaves in Belichick's dynasty crumbles and is bad.
So that's part of it is this. You know, whoever wins,
they get they get the best chapters, and they get
to write the book. So now the question is Belichick's gone.
We'll go ahead.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
No, I was saying, like, but don't you think, like
I just don't think enough times passed. I think that's
a big part of the problem. Don't you like the
last dance twenty years have passed, right? Yeah, Like, I
think maybe the most compelling figure and the whole thing,
the guy who's the most honest, the most real, was
Drew Bledsoe. Right, Well, why is Drew Bledsoe the most honest,
the most real, the most compelling character even though he
wasn't a part of this outside of the first two
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years of it.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
The reason why, I think is because well A he
was pivotal in the whole thing, right, but b because
he's had a chance to digest it, because he's had
a chance to pull away from it, because he's had
a chance to make amends with some of the people
that maybe he had a problem with back then. For
a lot of people that were involved in this, and
really the main protagonists, the three of them, Craft and
Brady and Belichick, they haven't had the time to separate
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from that yet. Yeah, So I do think the lack
of a passage of time affects the production of this,
you know.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
And again, I think one of the reasons why the
Last Dance was so.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Good is because all those people, all those Bulls people
had a chance to pull away from it. The Patriots people,
a lot of them at least especially from the second
iteration of the dynasty, hadn't had that time to take
a deep breath and sort of contextualize and internalize all
of it.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So, you know, I look at Justin Fields and there's
a story that many teams were interested. So I'm not
going to doubt a reporter who has a history of
you know, some accuracy here. But I think to myself,
if I'm Justin Fields, I come from a defensive culture
and a defensive coach where they like to spend money
on defense. I'm not going to do that again. Go
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to the AFC, which is a tougher I go to
the best division in football, the AFC, which is tougher,
and be a backup to Russell Wilson, Like if he
had a lot of options and that was the best option.
I'm just saying Russell's the starter here. He's getting quarterback
one snaps early, is he not?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
He is?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
And I think Justin's situation was sort of I think
generated by the way the quarterback market went. I don't
know if this is really anybody's fault, but you know,
Chicago viewed at the beginning their two most viable suitors
for Justin We're going to be Atlanta and Pittsburgh. But
they had to wait in the top of the quarterback
market to shake out to see the opportunity there. Well,
Atlanta signs Kirk Cousins and Pittsburgh signs Russell Wilson. And
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and then you know, you have teams on the other
side of it. You know, the Raiders signing Gardner Minshew,
the Vikings signing Sam Darnold, the Patriots signed Jacoby Brissett. Well,
those teams, you know, all had needs to hold on
to draft picks, the Raiders and Patriots to build their rosters,
the Vikings potentially to trade up. So you know, those
these teams, naturally we're going to go well after quarterbacks
that weren't going to cost them draft picks. So I
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think the Bears got caught in between those two markets
to some degree, and it left them at the end
of this with Okay, like what do we do? And
they wanted to do right by Justin and I think
in this situation, this is my take on it.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Colin.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I think Justin, after everything he'd been through in Chicago
the last three years, probably valued stability and there's no
more stable place in football than Pittsburgh. And the offensive
thing is an issue. But remember they're bringing in a
new offensive coordinator in Arthur Smith, coming over from Atlanta,
who was in Tennessee all those years, who once resurrected
Ryan Tannehill's career, and who has built different offenses for
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different types of quarterbacks and made it work around guys'
skill sets. And so let's say it doesn't work with
Russell Wilson. Let's say it doesn't go well for the
first four, six, eight weeks of the season, which is
certainly possible, and justin shows in practice like I can
really do it. And now you've got a coordinator who
can really build an offense for that type of quarterback,
and you know a player who's coming into this and.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
The bar is sort of low.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
So you know, I think if you look at the
circumstances and you look at all the individual pieces that
went into it does make some sense.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So I for years I've said that the Cowboys are
a great brand, but they feel like a corner store.
They love their draft picks, they draft them and pay them,
and it's so weird to me. They don't make any
real moves. They lose Tyron Smith, who when he started
was good, Tony Pollard was a two but he was something,
and Michael Gallup, who has moments and knows the system.
They're all gone. Now they're going to be reliant on
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the draft, which is a good wide receiver draft. But
the offense. Now, there's clear lines that Dak needs a
run game to win. He just does that. The numbers
are stark. If he gets one hundred plus rush yards
in support, he wins. Under he doesn't one fifty, he
almost always wins. So I look at it and I think,
to myself, they're just not that. I mean in the NFC,
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where you have these teams that were good last year
but could potentially be great. Green Bay Minnesota is now
stacked for Darnald San Francis, Rams are getting better, and
I look at Dallas and I think, what are they?
I mean, they lose three offensive guys vander Esh, no
money up against the camp. What are they?
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I think?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I mean, I think sometimes we make this mistake too, right,
like the inactivity and free agency usually has teams that
draft ball that have guys to pay, and that's sort
of where Dallas is right now. I think to some
degree they're being held hostage by the fact that they
they know they've got three really big contracts coming down
the pike. One is, of course Dak, another one in
CD lamb who's going into a contract year. And then oh,
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by the way, Michael Parsons could cost you more than
the Niners paid Nick Bosa, and you know you could
wait a year, but is he going to be amenable
to that?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Right?
Speaker 5 (17:45):
So you could have three massive contracts coming down the pike,
and I think that always was going to prevent them
from being big players.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
In free agency.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
The one thing I would look at here, they've always
done a good job drafting offensive lineman. They've generally done
a good job drafting running back, so I think you
can take care of that. And the other thing is,
and I think I brought this up to you last week,
they've been creative on the back end of the off season.
Before last year they went out and got Steph on
Day Steph on Gilmore, I believe, right before on the
draft or during the draft, and I could see them
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taking a creative swing like that before. So I think
the first day of free agency was always going to
be sort of a non starter for them because of
the situation with Prescott, because of the situation with Lamb,
because of the situation with Parsons. And again, I would
trust them to get the lineman right, I would trust
them to be able to find a running back, and
I wouldn't rule out a creative swing coming Monday morning.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Quarterback Albert Breer Good Senior as always, man, appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Stopping by, all right, thanks Colin.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, so have you watched the Apple TV Dynasty thing?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I told you that I would. I have not got
around to it, you know, we're moving.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
There's a lot going on coaching my kids in the
playoffs of basketball. March Madness is here. It's an off
season project for me. Am I missing out greatly. I
feel like I've got all lot.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
No, no, no, because it's it's it's not time sensitive.
You could watch it in four months. It's fine. And
I tend to watch streaming stuff only after football. After football,
I write down the list. I do it every year.
I got about seven to eight. I got through all.
I have one more to get through. So what's the
next one? Oh, it's called My wife and I were
talking about last night, the god Something. It's a it's
(19:24):
a strange it's the Godfather. That's no, no, no, it's
it's something. It's it's a wine business and it's a
global story, family power, money, wine business, patriarch passing. I
forget what it's called. But that's the next one I'll watch.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
That's gonna be happy to know.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
The first thing I had, the one thing that I
took priority with the move. I made sure that the
cable company was there the day, the geek squad to
set up our televisions.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And all that, So that was not priority for me.
You know you gotta be able to watch.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
The absolutely and I I agree on something.
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Speaker 1 (20:08):
Say big and your water and energy bills, new navy
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go to tanklessmadsimple dot com. By the way, everybody complains
about the bubble teams that didn't get in, folks, college
basketball is a water down version of what it was
twenty years ago. None of these teams are great. Yukon's
the best I saw, Houston's pretty good. These are not
great teams. It's okay teams, top coaches are leaving, transfer,
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portal chemistry, cohesions not great. Somebody was complaining about Saint
John's yesterday, and I'm like, at one point, they lost
eight of ten games. Rick Patino publicly lamented their lack
of athleticism multiple times, and they had no big wins
out of conference. But they almost beat Yukon. Is not
a reason to get into the tournament. None of these
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teams are special. Again, generationally. There were years when Duke
and Carolina and Kansas would be Georgetown and Syracuse would
bring back four NBA players all would have been first rounders,
and they all come back. It is a watered down
version college football, where you have to stay three years minimum.
(21:12):
Most guys stay four. You have a roster on Saturday,
when Michigan's playing Georgia or Alabama, you have twenty five
NFL guys on the field. Anybody that's any good. Last year,
the top four players in the NBA draft came from
four different leagues. Players don't want to play college basketball
if they're elite globally, and that's nothing against the sport.
I still like watching big games, but arguing about a
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team that doesn't get into this field, these teams wouldn't.
They'd be eighth place teams years ago, twenty years ago.
This sport, more than any sport in my life. Basketball's quality.
College basketball's quality has plummeted over the last twenty years
because of the one and done culture and because the
NBA has always seen college basketball, for some weird reason,
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as the enemy. To me. College football furnishes the NFL
with all these microwavable stars put your arms around college
football if you're the NFL. The only reason I know
who Zion is is because a duke. I don't know
anything about Jalen Green. He went to the G League.
And I don't sit around watching Rockets games. So in
the end, I just can't. I don't want to hear
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your argument why a bubble team didn't get in. Seton
Hall's not win in more than a game. If they
got in, we're all gonna be okay. J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
News no, no, no, this is the herdline news.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like Satan John Beatino this year twice, and I don't
follow Saint John's closely twice made jokes about his team
having no athletes. They lost eight of ten. I looked
it up yesterday. I'm looking for all their big out
of conference wins. I couldn't find one.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
You know, when it felt like that discussion about oh
they got snubbed, that's I think you're spot on. I
would say the last like five years, that's meant a
lot less fit ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
The outrage we don't have. I mean, it's it's we
just don't have great teams anymore. We have great stories
like Villanova winning the Carolina Villanova game was a great
game and they're a great story. There are no great teams.
There's nobody with five. Think about how good college basketball
was FI Slama Jama had Clyde Drexler and a kim Olajue.
They didn't win a title. Saint John's had Mark Jackson,
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Willie Glass, Bill Wennington, Chris Mullen. They didn't win a title.
I mean, you're talking about teams with four or five
NBA guys sometimes couldn't get to the Final four. I'm
not losing sleep over a Saint John's team that Rick
Betino says we have no athletes on.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
The ross because I know you love a good conspiracy
theory more than a couple people who I respect are
saying it's weird that the m Mountain West Conference, which
has been total trash in the tournaments, they got six
teams in six So guess who there are TV deals with?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You want to take a gander. CBS and the Big
East kind of got snubbed.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
The Seaton Hall should have been in Saint John's is
an omission based on like every number imaginable. They don't
have a deal with CBS, they have it with Fox
and a lot of people are saying, oh, the Mountain
West Curry favoring. Hey, we have a deal with CBS.
Can you get our garbage teams in there? And I'm
fading several of them in the til Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
No, no. The play by gamblers is fade Mountain West teams,
whether it's right or not. I read that repeatedly yesterday.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yes, yes, yes, all right, let's get started with the
NBA the paper clips. Boy, man, I love this team.
In the first half, they are imploding. Colin They got
smashed by the Hawks yesterday, losing by seventeen, fourth loss
in five games. They've struggled since the All Star break.
Paul George is sounding a little ticked off.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Do you feel like this team feels like it can
kind of just turn it around whatever it needs to
right now? I mean, that's what we're uppearing to look like,
which is.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Not good.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Not good.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
We want to be a team that's assistant, and you know,
we want to establish an identity. I while we spoken
about having an identity, and I think it's extremely important
we're you're a team that has an identity. Team no
teams know what they're going up against, and right now
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I don't think we have an identity.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
There's about fifteen games left in the season.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They're not locked into the four.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Or five against the Pelicans. Pelicans are kind of spicy,
Brandon Inger playing.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, I've been hearing Nyon, You've been telling me good series.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'll be interested.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I'm a good series. But that's not a championship team.
And they're fun team. Pelicans are a fun team. They
do like I've watched them this year. They're fun to watch.
But here's the earththic. Why are the Clippers? Why are
they imploding now? So I'll defend them. Oh, a bunch
of veteran players. They're gonna get into the playoffs. And
their takeaway is it's hard to get Kawhi and James
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Harden all gashed up and geeked up for these games
against Atlanta. Is that I think they'll flip a switch
veterans in. This team's got like veterans. Veteran teams tend
to flip switches when they think they're already in. I
mean Denver losing to Dallas. It's I think so I
think the Clippers will be fine. I think this is
a little bit of the dog days, where you know,
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It's like in baseball, when you know you're in you're
the Braves. You know you got a seven game lead.
You go on an eight game road trip and guys
are just not zoned in. They've got a little Nixon
Cotts and you're like, I'll take the day off. The
Braves will be fine. My take is the Clippers are
gonna win a playoff series. This is just a we
know we're gonna get in. It's more of a matchup thing,
and our guys are out having fun in Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Great point.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And listen, college basketball over the weekend, Houston lost a
lot of the top teams. UNC goes down there in
they know they were in the tournament. They beat up
everybody during the season, kind of in Koasmo and says you, that's.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
A great point by you.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know, rare, good point by you, and well done there, coward.
I actually like that.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Next up, you're not gonna like this.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
So Shador Sanders had a really nice season at Colorado
twenty seven touchdowns, three picks, but his dad spent a
lot of time recently discussing Shador's NFL future, and he
is now talking about which franchisees he does not want
drafting his son.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
Let me tell you something that I have a problem with.
And this kid can float out play. I think he's
the best one on the board this year for sure.
A kid that's coming from California for the last couple
of years, right and went to Oklahoma, and that is
not terribly cold.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Chicago's cold.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Man.
Speaker 9 (27:24):
You gotta think about that kind of stuff when you're
taking a young man. Like see when you take a
guy from Ohio State and you bring the Chicago. Okay,
I can understand that, but from California to Chicago, Like,
I don't want my kid going nowhere. Cole next year.
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He grew up in Texas, played in Jackson, playing Colorado
seasons over before it gets cold Colorado.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I don't I'm just thinking way ahead.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
I don't want that for him.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well this Brett far Baron, Rodgers, Tom Brady, big Bet,
and just a few. I don't know if it matters much.
Russell Wilson's best years we're in Seattle, where it's windy
and cold by November. I would say this where weather
matters is if you're not terribly strong armed, like for instance,
Green Bay, Jordan Love, Farvan, Rodgers, all coming out of
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college had good arms. Pittsburgh, you know big Ben Bradshaw,
big arms. Brady developed into a strong armed guy. Drew
bled so before him big arm. I do think if
you get a guy that comes out of the draft
and you're like, not a huge ar, like bo Nicks,
doesn't have a huge arm, would he be better served Tua?
Tua's much better served in Miami than Foxborough. Josh Allen,
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by the way, Josh Allen can play anywhere. Mahomes can
play anywhere. So I do think if I'm a court,
if I'm like Teddy Bridgewater coming out of college not
a big arm, I'd love him in a dome. AFC
South NFC South two.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Wasn't like a top pick Schdor Sanders based on what
we've seen, looks like a top five guy.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And Colin this sounds like Dion already starting to say.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I don't want my kid going to the New York
Giants next year when they're drafting third overall.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
That sounds That's what it sounds like to me, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
He's trying to pull a John Alway and an Eli Manning,
which is fine. I just wonder how franchises are gonna
feel a year out.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Doing that well. And also even in New York. September
and October and New York are gorgeous, beautiful love the fall.
November is hit and miss. But I've spent two Thanksgivings
in New York and it was chilly, but it wasn't awful.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Come on, I double dog dare you to go to
the Macy's Day parade in New York.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
You have to wear like seven layers colin two whip gloves.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
All.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's okay. It's football. It's okay to be cold. You
don't want heavy wind.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Not so to Dion. He doesn't want his kid going
there throwing football.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, I'm saying ten in New York, ten of the
seventeen games are in very beautiful weather. Two or three
are in cold weather. And you may get remember schedule.
You don't play all your games in December at home.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Also true, But like you said.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Tom Brady, Gay, well that's play homes. Yes, that's different.
I think I wanted Shaduur Sanders play. I didn't think
he had a weak arm. I thought he I think
he's really.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Talented, he's a big time prope.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, I don't see him as a guy that's smaller,
weak arm. I see him as a playmaker who's super
accurate on any platform. He throws left, right, moving pawk.
I like him a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
It's early but Chaedere or the kid at Georgia.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
And Chandur is to me is kind of carrying Colorado,
where the kids at Georgia come out being carried by
the talent. And I do this. I think this is
George's best quarterback. Yeah, I mean, maybe ever except Stafford.
Stafford's the best. But I mean they've had a lot
of you know, steps in Bennett good solid, but more
of a college guy. Aaron Murray's good, good, good good,
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but I mean kind of feel like heavy college guys.
Chadeur's carrying his second college program, like carrying them. I
like that big time talent.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Final story, How about this.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Jimmy Garoppolo is reportedly signing a one year deal with
the Rams. Jimmy G will back up Matt Stafford. He
was Jimmy G was released by the Raiders after one
season did not go well.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Love this move.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
We had heard last week that the Rams were looking
at Zach Wilson possibly love I love this move, you do.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Jimmy's been in a ton of big games. This system
is quarterback friendly. Jimmy's had injuries. What have the Rams
spent their money on last couple of years? Offensive line?
Pooka Cooper Cup they've got they just went and got
another tight end. The kid out of from Seattle, Stanford kid.
They've got a great running back Kyron Williams. So they
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have nice offensive beaches. No, they went coup. It's a
kid from Stanford Colby uh Park Park in Parkans Yeah.
A nice player, willing blocker. So, I mean I I
kind of look at the Rams and I think to myself,
nice fit, very accurate distributor of the ball. It's a
very old line. He's not running for his life. Knows
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the division. I like this movie, like this is Rams. Uh.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
You mentioned Aaron Donald earlier. I know you're hot on
the Rams.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I'm gonna give you my strong opinion next Thome.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Okay, good, I need to know if you're backing down.
I mean, Aaron Donald is irreplaceable. Wait a minute, Okay,
let's just get to your take.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
My take, sizzling take. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
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So Aaron Donald retired from the Rams. You know, I
love McVeigh and Stafford and last Snead, I think it's
Stan Cronkey. I think when it comes to owners, quarterbacks,
GMS coaches, only the Chiefs you can argue have more
AA pluses. I think the Rams are incredibly well run.
Everybody bailed on him last past season, and I said, no, no, no,
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they got too many smart people in the building. They're
going to be fine. And they made the playoffs and
what was viewed as a rebuilding year, but they lost
airon Donald. So think about this in an offensive league.
When Tyreek Hill, a superstar wide receiver, fastest player in
the NFL, left the Chiefs, my takeaway that day was,
Kansas City'll be fine. They'll use the draft picks they'll
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hit in summer, They'll be fine in an offensive league.
My take on the Rams a plus head coach, a
plus quarterback, a weapons. I don't know if they can
overcome Aaron Donald leaving. I don't know. There have been
only three defensive players in my life, hundreds of offensive players.
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Three defensive players in my life that just are different.
Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White, and Aaron Donald. They look different.
Here's how dominating Aaron Donald was even last year when
he was double teamed, double teamed, he had an eighteen
percent win rate pass rush win rate. That's better than
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the average defensive lineman just being singularly blocked. So he's
better against double teams. And there is video last year,
multiple video of Aaron Donald being triple teamed, and at
times I saw one piece of video quadruple team. You
don't block him singularly, he's unblockable. And again I could
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name fifty offensive players that left. I mean, Aaron Rodgers
is great, he leaves Green Bay, They're fine. I'd argue
they're better this past year with Jordan Loved than they
were with Aaron Rodgers leaving. When Brett Farv left and
Aaron took over, within a year and a half, the
Green Bay Packers were better. Peyton Manning all Timer leaves,
Andrew Luck comes in, they're just as good. Those are
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legendary quarterbacks. But when Reggie White was a Packer, the
entire time he was there, they had top ten defenses.
When Reggie White left, they had won top ten defense
in six years. Because you had a double and triple
team him. He made everybody around him better. Lawrence Taylor
in his final year with the new York Giants. Now,
his last couple of years with the Giants, he was
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not the same player. He was still good, but he
wasn't like the nine years of the best defensive player
in the history of the world. In his last year
in New York, the Giants won eleven and five and
had the number one rated defense, and he wasn't the
same LT when he left three straight years, missed the playoffs. Okay,
so when you get these guys, I mean, they're just
I can't even think of the fourth. People say Dion Sanders,
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who was a great corner, but he didn't like he
was allergic to contact. Dea didn't want to tackle anybody.
You could run at Don run right at him, and
he was great. He's the best corner ever, I'm not
disputing that. But that's not LT that you could literally
throw the ball to the other side of the field.
You can be the greatest corner in the NFL. Offenses
now are so sophisticated. You can just stay away from
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Sauce Gardner, Patrick's or tam We got all sorts of
great cornerbacks on terrible teams. You know what. The Rams
aren't since they moved to Los Angeles, They're never terrible.
And the Packers never were with Reggie White, and the
Giants were with Lawrence Taylor. There's nothing you can do.
They don't need a great pass rusher, doesn't need anybody else.
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Even a great receiver needs a quarterback. A great quarterback
needs protection. A left tackle better if he has a
run game. A great defensive lineman who gets to the
quarterback and has to be double and triple teamed needs
nobody else. And I think there's three players in my life,
Reggie White, LT and Aaron Donald. That's the best I've
ever seen. There's other guys. John Randall for the Vikings
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was great. I've seen a lot of great defensive linemen,
a lot of great corners. I mean Ed Reid at safety,
and Ronnie Lott and Troy Palomolo at safety, Dion Sanders
at corner. You know, I didn't see Dick Budkeis, Brian
Erlacker at linebacker, ray Lewis at lineback. Had been a
lot of dudes. They don't look like this. So there's
video last year, and I remember thinking this when I
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was because I you know, when you live in a city,
you watch that NFL team more. We all watch the
red zone. We all watch NFL, but when you live
in your city, if you live in Atlanta, you see
can practice as you read more Falcon stories, and I
remember thinking, because the Rams hitting a couple of third
round defensive linemen this year, so it's pretty good. But
I remember thinking to myself, if I was Aaron Donald,
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wouldn't it be frustrating to face a double and triple
team every snap?
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How many years could you do that without just saying
can we get another defensive tackles? So I'm not double
team and I'm not saying he was frustrated with the Rams,
but I do think it also signifies the new NFL
where NFL players offensive guards now make more money than quarterbacks.
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Many quarterbacks did ten years ago. Guards make fifteen sixteen million.
The good Rams are now paying two guards a ton
of money. Nobody would do that ten years ago. It's
not what you spent your money, but it's an offensive league.
And I do think what has happened when you start
looking at the quality of life of defensive and offensive
linemen is a lot of the CTE stuff in the
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head trauma stuff, and your hands are mangled and your
shoulder surgeries. A lot of it is just that that
beat down for O and D lineman. And now with
the exploding money in the NFL, Aaron Donald can play
ten years and he doesn't have to go to a
fourth or a fifth contract. So in the big picture,
I think it's better for NFL players, especially linebackers, running backs,
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O lineman D linemen in these major collision positions to
not have to go to that final contract. So you're
playing at thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty nine. It's probably
macro better for the league and better for the players.
But don't kid yourself. Aaron Donald last year could not
be singularly blocked. He was better statistically on double teams
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than other defensive linemen single blocked. And if you're a
Rams fan and you've watched him and you've gone to
a Rams game, there is just nobody on the planet
that is that strong and that quick. There's nobody. He'll
do these drill that you'll get video of these little
you know, like the tire drills. You're going in and out.
He moves like a running back. And Dave Wanstadt, who
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a friend of this show others, Dave recruited him to
Pitt and I remember saying, how long did it take
when you brought him in? He wasn't a five star
guy to know he was good, and he's like about
one practice and when he was drafted with the RAMS
very early. The late Chris Mortenson, who recently passed an
All Timer his very rookie season, MORET was reporting there
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were leaks out of the RAMS camp. People are going
to be mad they passed on Aaron Donald. You got one,
two looks at him at practice. It just doesn't look
like anything you've ever seen in your life. And that's
among other great professional athletes. Aaron Donald All Timer
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