June 17, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin tells you why he was right about Jaylen Brown and wrong about Mike Tomlin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
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Wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. This whole
Caitlin Clark Angel Reese thing is so good, so dramatic.
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People that didn't know when WNBA existed are now hexperts, outraged,
morally inflexible. Never seen anything like this before. By the way,
NBA last year this year had one hundred and thirty
flagrant fouls. Last year, the WNBA had exactly half of that,
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sixty five, and they play in the WNBA exactly half
the games. The NBA dows how.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Many people watched the WNBA last year during all these flagrant.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Fouls, nobody's so interesting when everybody's getting outraged by stuff
that happens every year they see Wilson Diana.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It's an outrage if, like you know, Susie Q gets
closedlined by somebody, like nobody's it's done.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Not a big us.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Caitlin Clark people are into they want to see her throat.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's right, But that's the people's issue, not the reality issue.
The reality is the NBA and WNBA. The numbers correlate.
You get the same number of flagrants in both both leagues.
I mean NBA at one hundred and thirty, WNBA half
the games had sixty five. It's this is basketball. Basketball
gets chippy around the iron.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It does you know.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know what you can't do is get chippy around
quarterbacks and injure them.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
And you can't get chippy around NBA stars.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
How many of those Lakers are against Lebron or Luca
or faces Yo gets faces.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Raymond doesn't back down from any stars.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
He loves to pick on big European centers. He doesn't
pick on the superstars. I'm just saying, like, you can't
be taking out the stars of the league. That's bad
for business. Go look at Brady.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
How many times I can't wait till we get Brady
on the show to talk about this.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
How many times he had to be protected or complained
and got flagged for people Like if you.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Do realize in hockey you have enforcers to protect the
star who would otherwise get picked on. Ty Domey spent
a career picking on stars. That's exactly who you pick on.
You don't pick on scrubs. You pick on stars.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Draymond picks on I shouldn't call I shouldn't called NBA
player scrubs, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I don't want my stars getting it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Listen, if Kyler Clark goes down do do an injury,
we're not talking about that, No, no shows.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You're talking about the star and mine doesn't. I'm gonna
make sure my enforcer introduces himself to your star.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You're coming for his neck.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I'm just saying they're gonna have an introduction as your
star drives to the basket. Just a little introduction at
the ten. That's sports. The Big East basketball, when it
was the best in the world in college basketball, when
the Big East ruled college basketball and people watch college basketball,
what was it known for?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It was physical.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Okay, So next time someone cheap shots Patrick Mahomes after
a fifteen yard scramble and Patrick Mahomes gets knocked out
for three weeks with a concussion, you tell me if that's.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, yeah, you got to meet my star. You know, stop,
Come on, you got.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
To you move west and gets you got softer than
Enna poop. Go ahead, you can say it all right?
Colin right? Colin wrong? On a Monday, here we go.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Where Colin was right? Oh, the Live.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Tour will ruin golf. I said, nonsense. You're gonna want
to watch Brooks, Koepka, Bryson de Shambo, Phil Mickelson. You'll
keep watching them. Stop with the outrage. And what did
you do yesterday? You were locked into Bryson de Shambo
from the tour against Rory McElroy from the PGA Tour.
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The bottom line is we watch golf for golfers, not
the course in most instances, and not because of the
PGA Live Tour isn't ruining anything. It is men stars
who were overlooked and treated poorly for years saying I'm
gonna make a move that's best for me and my family.
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You watched yesterday all golf fans watched the live tour
didn't ruin anything. These two tours now need to merge.
Where Colin was right, Dan Hurley didn't take the Lakers job,
I said sixty five thirty five he wouldn't. There's gonna
be plenty of jobs opening up, about six to seven
a year. Keep your eye on the Knicks over the
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next two to three years. The Lakers ownership, the roster,
the age of Lebron. There are simply limitations not to
mention in Kansas and Yukon specifically are the two t
best college basketball programs. Why would Bill self and Dan
Hurley take an NBA gread gig where the brand is
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bigger and better than.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The roster Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
The Dodgers only have the fifth best record in baseball.
Some of it injuries, most of it though the middle
and bottom of the batting order has been weak. They're
lucky fortunate that the Padres aren't so hot. The division
they're in is weak, but they haven't played great. They've
been hot and cold in the bit streaky. For all
the money they spent, they didn't spend it to be
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the fifth best record in Major League Baseball, where Colin
was right. Caitlin Clark. We said, take a deep breath.
She'll get better, she'll get comfortable. Just have her stop
playing New York easily the best team in the league. Well,
yesterday she dropped twenty three. The Fever topped the Chicago
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Sky again. She's averaging sixteen points, six assists, five rebounds.
She's getting her feet under She is a very good player.
Like Bryce Harper and baseball. This is a very insular
league that feels they were ignored. They're going to be
really chippy when she gets near the basket. Take a
deep breath. She's getting better the Fever, Caitlin Clark, They're
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gonna be fine. Where Colin was right, Jalen Brown looks
like the alpha for the Celtics. Layton Games, not Jason Tatum.
They're both great, but I've said Tatum isn't as aggressive
or as alpha historically as number ones are now. He
is aesthetically more pleasing optically, he's more fun to watch.
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But Jalen Brown to me, has the feel of d
Wade aggressive, we'll get on the floor, we'll guard the
other team's best player, physical and Leyden Games wants the
shot at times more than Tatum. Where Colin was right,
Brandon Ayu Niners receiver. According to report, now they are
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not close in their negotiations. I have said they drafted
a receiver in the first round. They just re signed Jennings,
the sixth round receiver who's become a nice possession guy.
I do not think going forward when you've got Debo
and Christian McCaffrey, this is Kyle Shanahan's offense, not Brandon Ayyuk's.
I would be shocked if they had him At the
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trade deadline. Where Colin was wrong, Mike Tomlin got an extension.
I kind of felt like this season was going to
be a prove it year. Their last big playoff win
was twenty ten against Baltimore fourteen years ago. Their last
playoff win was in twenty sixteen. They just feel like
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offensively they can't quite get it right in an offensive league.
I was surprised by the extension.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Rumors now the Dallas Mavericks, if they have a chance,
will draft Rawnie James in the second round. I kept
saying it's a weak draft. I don't think it's a
favor to draft Lebron's kid who was projecting to be
a draft pick before the cardiac arrest. He's athletic, he'll defend,
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he's smart, he can shoot threes. Again, nobody's saying he's
a top ten pick. He's not, and in a great draft,
maybe he's not draftable. This is one of the weaker
drafts in recent.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Memory where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
When the United States men's team lost to Columbia five
to one in every kid named Liam and Beckett and
Ethan freaked out. I said, we're a young team, it's temperamental,
it will be okay. What do you know? Four days
later a draw with Great Brazil. The bottom line is
the United States men's national team has a bunch of young,
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skilled players playing overseas just entering their prime. They're inconsistent.
Greg Berhalter does need to get out of the group
stage again in the next World Cup. But young teams
tend to have big swings. That's what this young United
States men national team, even in friendlies before COPA, has shown.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Us where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
First time in modern spring football history. Both playoff games
for the UFL exceeded one million in television ratings. I
believe for years and I've been wrong twice. There is
an audience. I don't know if it's in person or television,
but there is an audience for spring football. Football ends.
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Take a couple of months off March madness, NFL free agency,
then you bring it in. You play a very succinct season,
get right to the playoffs in the super Bowl or
whatever they want to call their championship game. Eventually there
is an audience for it. We've bet on everything. Now
you can't tell me spring FOOTB while they merged two leaks.
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The quality of play isn't bad. The top two or
three teams are pretty good, and they got over a
million for both playoff games. Colin right, Colin wrong. Let's
bring in Albert Breer, senior reporter, Monday Morning Quarterback. Right.
Let's start with Aaron Rodgers absence.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
It's a choice.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
He attended the voluntary OTAs. He did not attend these,
So I mean Robert Sala called it an unexcused absence,
which just poured gas on it, I think a little bit.
Let's start with that. What was your opinion on Sala?
He could have kept that to himself, coming out and
saying publicly at the podium it's unexcused. Was that a
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mistake by Solo?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
No, because I think that they felt like internally it
would be opening Pandora's box if they did excuse it.
They could have twenty guys next year coming to them
and asking for manatur mini camp or something else mandatory.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Off if they allowed this.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
And I think the important thing is the way it
was handled internally. They went to Aaron and sat down
and talked to him about this and talked through the
whole thing. And I'm not saying Aaron loves the idea
of being fined, but he did understand why it was
an unexcused absence, you know, with the line there being
one team, one set of rules, and you know, here's
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the other part of it, Colin, like I, I think
the spring is for is more for guys who are
in year two, year three, year four, year five. And
they really felt like through the ten ota practices they
were able to get enough out of it, or they
could make the mini camp something that could be a
little bit more geared towards some of those younger guys.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Aaron got the work that he needed to get in.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
We could argue about the the handling and of handling
of it, of course, like I I personally would have
loved to have seen Aaron Rodgers come out and explain
it himself so his coaches or his teammates wouldn't have to.
But I don't think this is going to be a
big deal. When the Jets report in the summer. I
think it's a big deal because nothing's happening in the
NFL right now in the middle of June.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So Trevor Lawrence signed an extension. I do wonder because
that city. It feels like Ken Griffy with the Mariners,
like he was basically going to get Safeco built. He
saved the team from leaving again. And I feel like
Trevor Lawrence in this franchise, if they were in London
in four years, I wouldn't be shocked. I kind of
feel his circumstances are different than Tua and Dak. They
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just are. He was a number one pick. He's been
viewed as sort of generational, maybe disappointing. But do you
think the Trevor Lawrence contract changes the market?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
No, because I think all these guys were gonna get
paid in this range, like over fifty, not too much
over fifty.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Mean, i'd ask you Colin. Would you rather have Trevor
Or Tua?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Would you rather have Trevor Or Dak Would you rather
have Trevor or Jordan Love? And I think for most
NFL teams at least, the answer would be they'd rather
have Trevor than those three guys. So paying him before
those three guys got paid makes perfect sense because if
any of those guys got to a certain point, you
were going to have to leap frog them. And ultimately,
I think this is about paying him for where you
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think he's going to be, not where he is right now.
Is he the type of generational guy that we all
thought he might be, you know, back in twenty nineteen
and twenty twenty, Maybe not, you know, like because you know,
I think he was seen, you know, in NFL circles
as being on that Luck Lway Manning type of tier
as a prospect. But he's been a really good player
and his circumstances have been really crappy.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Came into the league.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
The Erba Meyer year was what it was, a complete disaster.
Comes back in year two, had a great second year
in the league, right like in Lee's one of the
greatest playoff comebacks in NFL. History and then had a
little bit of a bumpy third year. And so I
think if you look at a kid who's sort of
ridden all of that out, there are a lot of
guys who I think would be in a worse spot
than he's in. And I think believe that if they
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can stabilize things around him, they're gonna get a much
better player in year five, year six, year seven.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
If Doug Peterson doesn't wind up being the guy in Jacksonville,
the next guy's not gonna throw Trevor Lawrence out. The
next guy's gonna be telling ownership. I can make it work.
I can enhance Trevor Lawrence, which is another reason to
take care of him.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Now. I don't think Brandon Ayuk is going to be
a Niner at the trade deadline. I think this offense
runs through Shanahan's brain and Christian McCaffrey's feet legs. I
think Ayuk is replaceable. They drafted two receivers, they re
signed Jennings, and I think he's a really good player
that a team like New England could use, you know,
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or maybe a Carolina What is your take on the
stories today that they're not close the niners in Ayuk,
who's really a remarkable player.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
I think there are two things like that I would
say to give you some optimism that he could still
be there. Number one is that they did get Christian
McCaffrey done aggressively. And I think they had to do
McCaffrey before they did Ayuk because if you pay Ayuke
twenty nine thirty thirty one million dollars a year now,
the price of McCaffrey might go up. So you had
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to take care of McCaffrey first. The second thing is,
you know, our mutual friend Mike Silver reported that they
were twenty six million. That's not that far off. And
a lot of times these things get ugliest towards the end.
And the Debo thing was not clean until it was
at the very end. And I would tell you this,
and I do feel strongly about this part of it.
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I think if you fed John Lynch Kyle Shanahan truth
sire I'm and ask them who would you rather have
in the roster Deebo, Samuel or Brandon Ayuk going forward?
I think they would answer Ayuk. They love Debo. Deebo
can do a lot of different things for them, but
Debo is like a supercharge gadget player. Ayuk is more
of a typical number one receiver who can beat man
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coverage and you can build an offense around. And so
do I think they're going to go to Justin Jefferson
numbers to get Ayuk signed. No, And if if I
draws the land in this line in the sand there
and says I'm not going to take less than that,
then you know maybe he has traded. But you know,
if there is some level of compromise, I still think
the Niners would like to get something done with you.
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And I don't think the door's closed on that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So there is. We had a story earlier. Jmack had
this where the Cowboys are going to prioritize the position
over the talent Dack over CD and Micah. Now, it
is a wide receiver league. College provides about fifteen guys
who can play immediately year one and be productive, So
I can see slowing down a little on CD Lamb.
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But edge rushers there are not a lot of great ones,
and mic is there. I think I would prioritize a
Mica or a CD over Dak because I think a
they're your picks their first round picks and they've exceeded expectations.
And so I think the message you send to your
locker room is we draft you early and you hit,
We're going to take care of you. My question to
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you is, if you paid Dak sixty, can you also
pay CD and Micah or are you insanely top heavy
on the roster?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, and that's a fair question.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
I think one thing that's interesting is that Justin Jefferson
thing hit them at both with both barrels, right like,
So Justin Jefferson obviously raises the bar for receivers and
ceed had seventeen hundred yards last year, so he's gonna
ask for something not far off from what Jefferson got.
And it also raises the bar for non quarterbacks, which
Mike is going to ask to be the highest paid
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non quarterback. And so you go for Nick Bost at
thirty four, now at Jefferson at thirty five. And I
think the Michael thing is in particular or interesting, okay,
because you think about the message that it is going
to send to the locker room. What they do with
Michaeh Parsons here. They made Zach Martin Waite, they made
DeMarcus Lawrence Mittwait, they made Dak Prescott waite the last time.
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So the guys in that locker room can look at
ownership right now and said, you made all of these
guys wait until after four years, until after their contracts
were up, to take care of them. What does that
mean to me? And that's why the MiCT thinks so
interesting because he's only been in the league three years.
CD they've made Waight right, So how do you handle
the Micah Parsons thing versus how you've handled Lamb now
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Prescott now Prescott before, Lawrence, before, Zach Martin before even
like a Dez Bryant, if you want to go further back.
It's just really interesting because the cowboys have been burned
so many times by waiting on these things, and now
they've got a guy who wants to get paid early.
How do they handle that? How does that resonate in
the locker room? That part's interesting, And then the Dak thing,
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of course, you have to be concerned with after what
Trevor Lawrence Scott. You know what damage waiting could do?
You know from here on out, if you're waiting and
Jordan Love and Tua get paid, does that raise mistakes
on what you got to pay Dak it certainly could,
and the franchise tag after the year. I'm sure you
know this Colin would cost them over eighty million dollars.
So that's not going to happen either.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I want to circle back to the jets now. I
was told and I know the area, but I didn't
want to report it. I I was told it was
not only overseas, but other.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Side of the Rye.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I was I was told the place that it was
not London. No, London's a quick jount from New York.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
So is is my you might connect through London? I
think right now?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, maybe you would connect. Yeah, so I would say this, Uh,
it was it was true international travel, not just you
know JFK the Heathrow. Was it a vacation or was
it an I heard the word event? What does that
mean event?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah? I just think so you use the the phrase
important to him? You know, I think that that is
probably the operative term here, and that I think is why,
probably why Robert Salah couldn't excuse it at least the
way I look at it, right like, because then what
would Garrett Wilson or Sauce Gardner or you know, whoever
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else pick a name of a young guy in that team,
Quinn Williams, what might be important to them that they
could come come to you with next year, Like what
could that be? So yeah, I think that was sort
of where this was a little tricky and where you know,
they had to sit down with Aaron and talk through
it now, like again, like this is this going to
have a long term effect on the team. I think
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that sort of depends on how camp starts, and Aaron
is still beloved in that locker room, so I can't
imagine there'd be a problem in camp, And is it
gonna be a problem when the season starts? Like that
to me would be the bigger question, because of course,
if they start zero and two, whether it's fair or not,
everybody's gonna be tying all of it back to that, right,
So I think that's where the real questions are to me,
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if like and I think you know, you and I
are in the same wavelength here. This is just about
getting the guy's mind right and him being where he
needs to be. Fine, you could have managed it a
little differently, but fine, But you do sort of open
up those questions down the line where you know if
the team does struggle in any way, people are going
to tie it back to this.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
In New York. Being New York, we know how that
can turn the temperature up.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh it was good, Albert Breer. We both kind of
think we know where it is. I'm not going to
report it. I don't want to be the first, but
I kind of think I know where it is. And
you feel the same way. You can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right. Uh Nantucket's around the corner for you, my friend,
get the spo.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Getting some color now too. I was out of the
lacrosse tournament this weekend. I think I'm I think.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I'm starting to build my build my base layer up good.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
See anybody all right? J Mack, Well, you're gonna find
out soon enough where it is. J Mack, And I
think from that point you'll have to just deal with it.
How you deal?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Can I drop like a what I think is a
funny liner.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean, I don't want to give away where we think,
or you think, or anybody thinks. But you know, certain
countries are closed in May. You can't visit in May.
You have to visit in June. That's why Rogers is there.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That's a joke.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
No countries are closed.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Aaron Rodgers could have gone anywhere in the world in May,
he chose to specifically go this week.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I think that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, I think you know you're one. I will say this,
you're a Jets fan that I think you generally are realistic.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'm a realistic fan unlike all the other Jabbroni's own
and just take me up, Colin. By the way, I'm
gonna I'm gonna take week one of the NFL. I'm
taking a vacation. Couldn't do it in August, so I'm
out week one.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Just thought i'd let you know that.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, how's that gonna go over?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
You think I'm gonna let gonna let that happen?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
You may not even be on the air. Bye too.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
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Speaker 1 (22:48):
So many good things to talk about, We'll be heading
back over to FS one. Top of next hour. Jmack
with the news.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, no turn on the news. This is the Herd
Line News.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
So all we have a lot of good things to
talk about. This is not great.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Brandon Ayuk in the last thirty forty five minutes here,
he went on TikTok and did something silly, So obviously
we know he's having issues with the Niners and contract negotiations. Well,
he posted a video on TikTok today facetiming with Jaden Daniels,
and he says on the video, they don't want me back.
I swear, Colin, this is petulant, childish behavior from Brandon
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Ayuki's not getting a Remember this is and I know
it's still the everybody, Well, who is trading now Yuke
for I'm just telling guys, the Niners are not doing that.
You're not giving up an all pro receiver in June
and not getting somebody back that's gonna help you.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
They're not trading it.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
He's just gonna have to deal with it or hold.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Out and get fine. But just the way he reveals
it in his video facetiming Jaden Daniels, who I guess
he was catching passes from the Arizona State.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Back in the day. They don't want me back. I
swear It's not good.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Not good?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Is this beyond? Is the damage done that they can't
fix this? Or is there still plenty.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Of I mean, I still when you run a professional
sports franchise, you're dealing with young men. Young men are immature.
You're just dealing with a lot of this stuff. Running
to my social media, this is like it's it's what
young emotional people do, right, Like this is how they
react end of the world stuff. The end is nigh.
So it's like you just kind of you this is
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what you in pro sports. The general manager and the
coach have to have be high on the EQ stuff,
you know what I mean, Like, you just got to
deal with some of this. This is the industry. You
deal with it. It's like officials deal with fans heckling them,
Comedians deal with hecklers. Like, if you're a general manager
of pro sports franchise, players are going to do this.
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It just gets just part of the job.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
You remember one day we were talking to a guy
who came in the studio quarterback and said, man, this
one wide receiver I was with fell in line. He
was awesome. He wanted that contract. That second he got it,
stopped showing up never the first time. You remember he
told us about this. Yeah, I'm just saying, Niners better
be prepared. You pay Ayuk at the height of his powers,
all pro and then he's just like showing up late,
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not working out as hard, not locking.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Those players get the bag and want to prove their
worth thing. But there are not all the good ten
to fifteen percent that just sort of never.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
The only people who know Ayuk really, really well are
the Niners. He's been in the building with them, right,
they have to have an idea on how he's going
to handle this.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Well. I think they like him. They just don't like
the number, but I think they like him. But for
the record, he still has a year left in his contract.
Organizations companies don't like to set precedents. He's got a
year left play.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
So the worst case for Ayuk would be he shows
does it, get the new deal, shows up and then
starts pouting and not being a me guy, and then Piersoll,
the young receiver, starts to show out.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well they have They have Christian McCaffrey, debo, their first
round pick, and Jennings here saw Jenny. They can win
a lot of games without Brandon and I don't forget
rock party, right, they can win a lot of games
without Brandon Aiyuk do I think he adds value. Absolutely,
you have. I mean he'll beat you down the field.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
He's a stud, no question.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
But the other stuff is what I would be concerned with.
Next story is Caleb Williams, your guy in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He's gonna be training with other NFL quarterbacks this summer
to prepare for his rookie year. Caleb's personal quarterback coach
confirmed Caleb will work with a handful of his peers,
including Rock Party and Anthony Richardson. Rock Party and Anthony
Richardson and Caleb Boys. That's an interesting trio, Colin.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
What do you make of this?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
If anything, I don't make any They're all young. I
don't make anything. Well, stylistically, they're all different.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Party's almost two year starters, been to an NFC Championship game,
got hurt, and then nearly won the Super Bowl against Cheeks.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
No, I don't I don't make any Are you trying
to create something here? What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I'm just presenting the facts that I'm letting you know.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I think there are a bunch of young guys that
want to work out together. I think age is the
common threat. Nothing else. Stylistically, money, none, of that. You know,
none of them are getting rich yet, although Caleb is
probably the first big NIL star, probably a year away.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
But the weird part is when you name these three,
it's like, uh, Okay, Purty nobody, Anthony Richardson nobody. There
are some expectations, but he's always hurting. It's like, oh, Caleb,
believe me, flashy news.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, he probably wants to work out with young dudes,
young guys just broke into the league. Perty's a two
year player, Richardson's a one year player. He's probably thinking
what can I glean from these young guys, Like you know,
old guys. If a guy's been in the league twelve years,
he forgets what his rookie year was, like he doesn't
really remember. It was a different league twelve years ago.
But Purdy broke in a couple of years ago, Richardson
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last year, and so Caleb probably thinking, like, I want
real time information on defenses. What do I learn? What
will I see? And by the way, you know, Brock
Purty was a multiple college multiple year college starter like Caleb,
So we probably want to glean some of that. And
I mean, to me, if I was Caleb Williams and
I wanted to work out with quarterbacks, I probably want to.
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You know, Age Adjason, Guys that are in my cun.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Wittn't hit up like I don't know Josh Allen or
Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Those guys are. They're established veterans. Do they remember their
rookie year that well? I mean, I think the Anthony
Richardson can say, dude, I just broke in last year
and let me tell you something, but blah blah blah blah,
and Brock Purty can say, yeah, you're gonna play some
of the same teams we do. Here's what I learned
as a guy that started for multiple years at Iowa State.
So I get it all right, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Final story is Houston Texans surprise team of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Awesome run with rookie quarterbacks CJ.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Stroud this year, the spotlight on him and wide receiver
Tank Dell says.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
The team is ready for that new role.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
You're ready.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You know, we all decided. You know, we have it's
harden on that bay.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
We've got a lot of things that we want to accomplish,
you know, super Bowl, say samed by Desk.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
So we ready to go work.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
That gonna be good Tanke Deell awesome storyline, this round
guy or something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
T is awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's still frustrating that they had him blocking in like
the middle of the line of scrimmage, remember.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Near the near the goal line. He got me like
a broken legger.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It was his growth.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
It's like, why do you have a small receiver doing that?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
And then he had the off season with the shooting
and it's just like, you know, Tankedel's a guy to easy.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Roof to root for. Yeah, I think when you look
at Houston, Houston is why the league is popular. A
complete tire fire. They get the coach and the quarterback right,
they get a GM who knows what he's doing, and
they have turned this from a laughing stock to a
team that's on the fringes of a Super Bowl bubble.
You can't do that in a year and a half
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without big money in the NBA or especially baseball. This
is why the NFL is king. It's the league of hope.
This was a laughing stock franchise, coach, coordinator, quarterback, and
then two years of really smart mostly B to B
plus acquisitions. They didn't take huge swings, but a lot
of Dalton Schultz. You know a lot of really good,
(30:08):
solid NFL players. I like everything about them. I don't
trust the ownership, but GM coach, quarterback, coordinators, personnel.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Now it's very good for It's like they had their
superstar in Deshaun Watson. He goes sideways and it's like, hey,
you don't know how long it's gonna be to you
find another.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And they fall right into c J. Stroud, which is
pretty fortuitous.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
They're fun and they're fun to watch. They've got a
lot of electric dynamic players. They're like a fun watch.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, I mean, listen, they can't they couldn't do anything
against the Jets in the rain, and that's fine.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
But why don't we always go back to that game?
That game was barely on television. I mean it when
man been on Nickelodeon or something. It was barely.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I'm almost certain they not c J. Stroud into twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I don't know the game. I don't even know
if they filmed the game. It's like the least memorable
game of the year. It's the only one you bring up.
J Mack with the news.
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Speaker 1 (32:12):
So Angel Rees quite a rivalry couple of years now
college and pro Caitlin Clark meet over the weekend. This
is a very hard foul. I have said flagrant fouls.
There's a classification for a reason. But when we show
you the foul, it's clearly a flagrant one. It's a
hard foul. What I have said is there were one
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hundred and thirty flagrants in the NBA just this year.
Last year in the w NBA there were sixty five,
exactly half, and they have exactly half as many games
as the NBA, so it all correlates. You get in
an NBA season one hundred and thirty of these, in
the WNBA season half the games you get about half
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the number. Listen, these are this is why you have them.
By the way, Angel Reese a bit of a villain,
but that doesn't mean only villains do this. Diana Tarassi
last year committed a flagrant foul. So did Asia Wilson
from Las Vegas. Non villains. It gets chippy. Here was
(33:15):
Angel Reese after.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
The basketball player. I can't control the rest. Stay effected
the game obviously a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Tonight.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
I think we went up really strong a lot of times,
and we did get a lot of calls and going
back and looking at the film, I've seen a lot
of calls that weren't made, and I guess some people
got a special whistle. But just being able to play
hard as best as you can.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
We've said this before. Caitlyn's okay with it. She understands it.
Other people are struggling. Here's Caitlyn Clark reactions. She's Dak Prescott.
Every time she goes hose to the podium, she brings
down the heat. Here's Caitlin Clark on it.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
She was a part of basketball. That is what it is.
You know, she's trying to play, make a play on
the ball and get the block. But yeah, I mean
it happens. I think it's just the emotion of the
passion that we play with. I think people love to
see that, and I think that's maybe not something that
was always appreciated in women's sports, and it should be.
I think that's what makes it fun. Like people are,
(34:15):
we're competitors. That's the way the game should be. It's
gonna get a little feisty, it's gonna get physical, but
at the end of the day, both teams are just
trying to win.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Let's stop pandering to women's sports. It gets chippy and
physical and it can get contentious, and that's one of
the elements why we like guy sports. Let's not pander.
Let's realize as women's sports improves and grows, you're seeing
increased chippiness. Women now fight in UFC and it's really popular.
(34:51):
It is very athletic, getting better at times, very chippy.
That is a foul. You will see a bit cheap
sure in the WNBA and the NBA with regularity. Okay,
So Claye Thompson and this is becoming a thing now
kind of funny. Has scrubbed his social media of Golden
(35:13):
State Warrior stuff. So they offered him like a forty
eight million dollar deal for two years, twenty four million.
He said, I'm not going to do it. He's a
good player who wants really really good money and he's
not worth it. The Warriors are not a championship team.
The owner is going to be loyal to Steve Kerr,
Steph Curry and Draymond Green. Draymond is still elite at
(35:36):
what he does. Everything else floats. And remember this is
an owner in Joe lacub who blew past the salary
cap multiple times and paid a bloody fortune in taxes
for that. So the guy's already a California billionaire, which
(35:57):
is not like a Texas billionaire higher tax rates. Secondly,
he blew through the salary cap for years so much
so the league was uncomfortable and other owners complained, and
he paid huge taxes. So he's like, OK, hell, do
that if for a championship team. You know, it's the
same with Lebron. I do anything. When Lebron was getting
me to the finals every year, now he's not. There's
(36:17):
limitations on what I'm gonna give Lebron James. If this
team was a championship team, you blow through the taxes.
This is not a championship team. So the owners like Kerk, Curry, Draymond,
everything else moves. And I think he would be a
great bench player, like like the best bench player in
the league or an occasional bottom of the starting five rotation.
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But they drafted a kid Pods last year and he
looks like the next Clay. He's just quicker and not
even yet it in his prime. So and also remember
he was zero for ten in the playoff game. Brutal.
He was brutal the year before in the playoffs. So
the recent track history of postseason basketball is bad for
Klay Thompson. We don't confuse cheap owner with a smart
(37:03):
allocation of funds. Again, if it's a championship team, we've
always said there there is a balancing act between is
it a star player or a good player? Are we
a championship team or maybe we sneak into the playoffs.
So this is not a championship club anymore. They got
to make a bunch of moves. I think they can
(37:25):
get into the playoffs if they're healthy. But you can't
pay Lay Thompson very good to great money when he's
just a good player. Here was Draymond Green on his
podcast regarding Clay scrubbing his social media of Warrior stuff.
Speaker 10 (37:42):
I know all of you were probably looking forward to
me talking about Clay on following the Warriors and I
could lead some Loji posted something I had no idea
that happened. I think it's hilarious, Just so y'all know,
I'm laugh I think that's comical. I know you all
be like somebody feelings to be hard of some It
(38:02):
ain't that ain't never gon to be that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, So Uh, it's a trend. I think sometimes athletes
feel powerless and so this is their way to signal
to the team in the market. I'm being treated, in
my opinion, poorly. So when you're a player, you're under contract,
you don't like the offer, what do you do? Where
do you go? You could go to a radio or
TV show and complain, But most of them, you know,
(38:28):
they're gonna disappear. They're gonna go to their social they're
gonna scrub it, and then the fans react, the media reacts,
and the player hopefully puts pressure. This is what j
Mac talked about a half hour ago. Brandon I Yuke
has said something on TikTok they don't want me. He's
also scrubbed before some media stime. This is just a player.
Players sometimes don't feel they have leverage, They get trapped,
(38:51):
their agent doesn't want them to do much, so they
just scrub their social media. Not what I'm gonna do,
you know, but to each their own. So you know,
Clay's been paid so well, so favorably for years. I
think this is the toughest time for all pro athletes.
You're out of your prime, you're still a good player,
you want to be paid at a very good rate.
(39:12):
And I get the owner saying I paid a fortune
in taxes and when you were giving me titles and
trophies and finals, I was willing to blow through it.
I'm not going to blow through it.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
There you go, j Mac. I will say this, We've
had the Caitlin Clark story, the Aaron Rodgers story, the
Brandon Ayuk story. You and I are in the interesting business.
I hope the NBA Finals Game five tonight is interesting.
My hunch is a veteran Boston team that a couple
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years ago when they were younger blue a finals lead
against the Warriors will not mess around. I think you'll
get an completely focused, veteran high IQ Celtic team that
comes in and takes control of the game. They got
more good players on both sides, O and D.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
I would agree.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I'll ask again, now we asked this before the series,
who is the best player on the court tonight when
they tip off.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Probably Luca Yeah no, and he he'll price score forty.
But I have to, but I would say who's the
second best player in the series. It's been Jalen Brown,
and then Tatum and then Kyrie Irving, and you know,
whereas we viewed Kyrie as sort of the second best player,
he's been about the fourth best player. And then by
the way, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth. You have an
(40:29):
argument they're all Celtics.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I got to ask you about Kyrie because he's had
an up and down series.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
He was terrible in Boston.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
To him, Yes, his playoffs have been hot and cold.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Okay, see, he wasn't really a big factor. No, he
was great against Minnesota. But I just wonder he's making
some comments yesterday about the Boston fans are like a.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Colt, and.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
He had done a good job staying out of the nonsense,
you know, the SI side show stuff. I don't know
if he just kind of got back into it tonight.
It's gonna be about Kyrie, the audience, the fans. He's
going to come after Kyrie suck.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
That's clearly affected in the first two games in Boston,
he was clearly affected by it. So again people are saying,
what Boston team are we going to get? Well, let's
look at the makeup of the Boston team. Drew Holiday,
Tatum Brown, porzingis Al Horford, Derek White's a smart kid,
these are grown ups. You're not young teams up down
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high lows. That's not what you're getting with this team.
I mean, Dallas is a younger team. They were unbelievable
in Game four. Yeah yeah, I mean, and they were
like awful in large parts of Games one and two.
I'll take the Celtics by about eight tonight. NBA Champs
Hour three.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
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Thanks for making us part of your day. This whole
Caitlin Clark Angel Reese thing is so good, so dramatic.
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People that didn't know when WNBA existed are now hexperts, outraged,
morally inflexible. Never seen anything like this before. By the way,
NBA last year this year had one hundred and thirty
flagrant fouls. Last year, the WNBA had exactly half of that,
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sixty five, and they play in the WNBA exactly half
the games. The NBA dows how.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Many people watched the WNBA last year during all these flagrant.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Fouls, nobody's so interesting when everybody's getting outraged by stuff
that happens every year they see Wilson Diana.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It's an outrage if, like you know, Susie Q gets
closedlined by somebody, like nobody's it's done.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Not a big us.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Caitlin Clark people are into they want to see her throat.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's right, But that's the people's issue, not the reality issue.
The reality is the NBA and WNBA. The numbers correlate.
You get the same number of flagrants in both both leagues.
I mean NBA at one hundred and thirty, WNBA half
the games had sixty five. It's this is basketball. Basketball
gets chippy around the iron.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It does you know.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know what you can't do is get chippy around
quarterbacks and injure them.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
And you can't get chippy around NBA stars.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
How many of those Lakers are against Lebron or Luca
or faces Yo gets faces.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Raymond doesn't back down from any stars.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
He loves to pick on big European centers. He doesn't
pick on the superstars. I'm just saying, like, you can't
be taking out the stars of the league. That's bad
for business. Go look at Brady.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
How many times I can't wait till we get Brady
on the show to talk about this.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
How many times he had to be protected or complained
and got flagged for people Like if you.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Do realize in hockey you have enforcers to protect the
star who would otherwise get picked on. Ty Domey spent
a career picking on stars. That's exactly who you pick on.
You don't pick on scrubs. You pick on stars.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Draymond picks on I shouldn't call I shouldn't called NBA
player scrubs, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I don't want my stars getting it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Listen, if Kyler Clark goes down do do an injury,
we're not talking about that, No, no shows.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You're talking about the star and mine doesn't. I'm gonna
make sure my enforcer introduces himself to your star.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You're coming for his neck.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I'm just saying they're gonna have an introduction as your
star drives to the basket. Just a little introduction at
the ten. That's sports. The Big East basketball, when it
was the best in the world in college basketball, when
the Big East ruled college basketball and people watch college basketball,
what was it known for?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It was physical.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Okay, So next time someone cheap shots Patrick Mahomes after
a fifteen yard scramble and Patrick Mahomes gets knocked out
for three weeks with a concussion, you tell me if that's.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, yeah, you got to meet my star. You know, stop,
Come on, you got.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
To you move west and gets you got softer than
Enna poop. Go ahead, you can say it all right?
Colin right? Colin wrong? On a Monday, here we go.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Where Colin was right? Oh, the Live.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Tour will ruin golf. I said, nonsense. You're gonna want
to watch Brooks, Koepka, Bryson de Shambo, Phil Mickelson. You'll
keep watching them. Stop with the outrage. And what did
you do yesterday? You were locked into Bryson de Shambo
from the tour against Rory McElroy from the PGA Tour.
(04:04):
The bottom line is we watch golf for golfers, not
the course in most instances, and not because of the
PGA Live Tour isn't ruining anything. It is men stars
who were overlooked and treated poorly for years saying I'm
gonna make a move that's best for me and my family.
(04:26):
You watched yesterday all golf fans watched the live tour
didn't ruin anything. These two tours now need to merge.
Where Colin was right, Dan Hurley didn't take the Lakers job,
I said sixty five thirty five he wouldn't. There's gonna
be plenty of jobs opening up, about six to seven
a year. Keep your eye on the Knicks over the
(04:46):
next two to three years. The Lakers ownership, the roster,
the age of Lebron. There are simply limitations not to
mention in Kansas and Yukon specifically are the two t
best college basketball programs. Why would Bill self and Dan
Hurley take an NBA gread gig where the brand is
(05:07):
bigger and better than.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The roster Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
The Dodgers only have the fifth best record in baseball.
Some of it injuries, most of it though the middle
and bottom of the batting order has been weak. They're
lucky fortunate that the Padres aren't so hot. The division
they're in is weak, but they haven't played great. They've
been hot and cold in the bit streaky. For all
the money they spent, they didn't spend it to be
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the fifth best record in Major League Baseball, where Colin
was right. Caitlin Clark. We said, take a deep breath.
She'll get better, she'll get comfortable. Just have her stop
playing New York easily the best team in the league. Well,
yesterday she dropped twenty three. The Fever topped the Chicago
(05:54):
Sky again. She's averaging sixteen points, six assists, five rebounds.
She's getting her feet under She is a very good player.
Like Bryce Harper and baseball. This is a very insular
league that feels they were ignored. They're going to be
really chippy when she gets near the basket. Take a
deep breath. She's getting better the Fever, Caitlin Clark, They're
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gonna be fine. Where Colin was right, Jalen Brown looks
like the alpha for the Celtics. Layton Games, not Jason Tatum.
They're both great, but I've said Tatum isn't as aggressive
or as alpha historically as number ones are now. He
is aesthetically more pleasing optically, he's more fun to watch.
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But Jalen Brown to me, has the feel of d
Wade aggressive, we'll get on the floor, we'll guard the
other team's best player, physical and Leyden Games wants the
shot at times more than Tatum. Where Colin was right,
Brandon Ayu Niners receiver. According to report, now they are
(07:01):
not close in their negotiations. I have said they drafted
a receiver in the first round. They just re signed Jennings,
the sixth round receiver who's become a nice possession guy.
I do not think going forward when you've got Debo
and Christian McCaffrey, this is Kyle Shanahan's offense, not Brandon Ayyuk's.
I would be shocked if they had him At the
(07:23):
trade deadline. Where Colin was wrong, Mike Tomlin got an extension.
I kind of felt like this season was going to
be a prove it year. Their last big playoff win
was twenty ten against Baltimore fourteen years ago. Their last
playoff win was in twenty sixteen. They just feel like
(07:44):
offensively they can't quite get it right in an offensive league.
I was surprised by the extension.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Rumors now the Dallas Mavericks, if they have a chance,
will draft Rawnie James in the second round. I kept
saying it's a weak draft. I don't think it's a
favor to draft Lebron's kid who was projecting to be
a draft pick before the cardiac arrest. He's athletic, he'll defend,
(08:16):
he's smart, he can shoot threes. Again, nobody's saying he's
a top ten pick. He's not, and in a great draft,
maybe he's not draftable. This is one of the weaker
drafts in recent.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Memory where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
When the United States men's team lost to Columbia five
to one in every kid named Liam and Beckett and
Ethan freaked out. I said, we're a young team, it's temperamental,
it will be okay. What do you know? Four days
later a draw with Great Brazil. The bottom line is
the United States men's national team has a bunch of young,
(08:54):
skilled players playing overseas just entering their prime. They're inconsistent.
Greg Berhalter does need to get out of the group
stage again in the next World Cup. But young teams
tend to have big swings. That's what this young United
States men national team, even in friendlies before COPA, has shown.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Us where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
First time in modern spring football history. Both playoff games
for the UFL exceeded one million in television ratings. I
believe for years and I've been wrong twice. There is
an audience. I don't know if it's in person or television,
but there is an audience for spring football. Football ends.
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Take a couple of months off March madness, NFL free agency,
then you bring it in. You play a very succinct season,
get right to the playoffs in the super Bowl or
whatever they want to call their championship game. Eventually there
is an audience for it. We've bet on everything. Now
you can't tell me spring FOOTB while they merged two leaks.
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The quality of play isn't bad. The top two or
three teams are pretty good, and they got over a
million for both playoff games. Colin right, Colin wrong. Let's
bring in Albert Breer, senior reporter, Monday Morning Quarterback. Right.
Let's start with Aaron Rodgers absence.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
It's a choice.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
He attended the voluntary OTAs. He did not attend these,
So I mean Robert Sala called it an unexcused absence,
which just poured gas on it, I think a little bit.
Let's start with that. What was your opinion on Sala?
He could have kept that to himself, coming out and
saying publicly at the podium it's unexcused. Was that a
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mistake by Solo?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
No, because I think that they felt like internally it
would be opening Pandora's box if they did excuse it.
They could have twenty guys next year coming to them
and asking for manatur mini camp or something else mandatory.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Off if they allowed this.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
And I think the important thing is the way it
was handled internally. They went to Aaron and sat down
and talked to him about this and talked through the
whole thing. And I'm not saying Aaron loves the idea
of being fined, but he did understand why it was
an unexcused absence, you know, with the line there being
one team, one set of rules, and you know, here's
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the other part of it, Colin, like I, I think
the spring is for is more for guys who are
in year two, year three, year four, year five. And
they really felt like through the ten ota practices they
were able to get enough out of it, or they
could make the mini camp something that could be a
little bit more geared towards some of those younger guys.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Aaron got the work that he needed to get in.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
We could argue about the the handling and of handling
of it, of course, like I I personally would have
loved to have seen Aaron Rodgers come out and explain
it himself so his coaches or his teammates wouldn't have to.
But I don't think this is going to be a
big deal. When the Jets report in the summer. I
think it's a big deal because nothing's happening in the
NFL right now in the middle of June.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So Trevor Lawrence signed an extension. I do wonder because
that city. It feels like Ken Griffy with the Mariners,
like he was basically going to get Safeco built. He
saved the team from leaving again. And I feel like
Trevor Lawrence in this franchise, if they were in London
in four years, I wouldn't be shocked. I kind of
feel his circumstances are different than Tua and Dak. They
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just are. He was a number one pick. He's been
viewed as sort of generational, maybe disappointing. But do you
think the Trevor Lawrence contract changes the market?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
No, because I think all these guys were gonna get
paid in this range, like over fifty, not too much
over fifty.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Mean, i'd ask you Colin. Would you rather have Trevor
Or Tua?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Would you rather have Trevor Or Dak Would you rather
have Trevor or Jordan Love? And I think for most
NFL teams at least, the answer would be they'd rather
have Trevor than those three guys. So paying him before
those three guys got paid makes perfect sense because if
any of those guys got to a certain point, you
were going to have to leap frog them. And ultimately,
I think this is about paying him for where you
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think he's going to be, not where he is right now.
Is he the type of generational guy that we all
thought he might be, you know, back in twenty nineteen
and twenty twenty, Maybe not, you know, like because you know,
I think he was seen, you know, in NFL circles
as being on that Luck Lway Manning type of tier
as a prospect. But he's been a really good player
and his circumstances have been really crappy.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Came into the league.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
The Erba Meyer year was what it was, a complete disaster.
Comes back in year two, had a great second year
in the league, right like in Lee's one of the
greatest playoff comebacks in NFL. History and then had a
little bit of a bumpy third year. And so I
think if you look at a kid who's sort of
ridden all of that out, there are a lot of
guys who I think would be in a worse spot
than he's in. And I think believe that if they
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can stabilize things around him, they're gonna get a much
better player in year five, year six, year seven.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
If Doug Peterson doesn't wind up being the guy in Jacksonville,
the next guy's not gonna throw Trevor Lawrence out. The
next guy's gonna be telling ownership. I can make it work.
I can enhance Trevor Lawrence, which is another reason to
take care of him.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Now. I don't think Brandon Ayuk is going to be
a Niner at the trade deadline. I think this offense
runs through Shanahan's brain and Christian McCaffrey's feet legs. I
think Ayuk is replaceable. They drafted two receivers, they re
signed Jennings, and I think he's a really good player
that a team like New England could use, you know,
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or maybe a Carolina What is your take on the
stories today that they're not close the niners in Ayuk,
who's really a remarkable player.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
I think there are two things like that I would
say to give you some optimism that he could still
be there. Number one is that they did get Christian
McCaffrey done aggressively. And I think they had to do
McCaffrey before they did Ayuk because if you pay Ayuke
twenty nine thirty thirty one million dollars a year now,
the price of McCaffrey might go up. So you had
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to take care of McCaffrey first. The second thing is,
you know, our mutual friend Mike Silver reported that they
were twenty six million. That's not that far off. And
a lot of times these things get ugliest towards the end.
And the Debo thing was not clean until it was
at the very end. And I would tell you this,
and I do feel strongly about this part of it.
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I think if you fed John Lynch Kyle Shanahan truth
sire I'm and ask them who would you rather have
in the roster Deebo, Samuel or Brandon Ayuk going forward?
I think they would answer Ayuk. They love Debo. Deebo
can do a lot of different things for them, but
Debo is like a supercharge gadget player. Ayuk is more
of a typical number one receiver who can beat man
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coverage and you can build an offense around. And so
do I think they're going to go to Justin Jefferson
numbers to get Ayuk signed. No, And if if I
draws the land in this line in the sand there
and says I'm not going to take less than that,
then you know maybe he has traded. But you know,
if there is some level of compromise, I still think
the Niners would like to get something done with you.
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And I don't think the door's closed on that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So there is. We had a story earlier. Jmack had
this where the Cowboys are going to prioritize the position
over the talent Dack over CD and Micah. Now, it
is a wide receiver league. College provides about fifteen guys
who can play immediately year one and be productive, So
I can see slowing down a little on CD Lamb.
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But edge rushers there are not a lot of great ones,
and mic is there. I think I would prioritize a
Mica or a CD over Dak because I think a
they're your picks their first round picks and they've exceeded expectations.
And so I think the message you send to your
locker room is we draft you early and you hit,
We're going to take care of you. My question to
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you is, if you paid Dak sixty, can you also
pay CD and Micah or are you insanely top heavy
on the roster?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, and that's a fair question.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
I think one thing that's interesting is that Justin Jefferson
thing hit them at both with both barrels, right like,
So Justin Jefferson obviously raises the bar for receivers and
ceed had seventeen hundred yards last year, so he's gonna
ask for something not far off from what Jefferson got.
And it also raises the bar for non quarterbacks, which
Mike is going to ask to be the highest paid
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non quarterback. And so you go for Nick Bost at
thirty four, now at Jefferson at thirty five. And I
think the Michael thing is in particular or interesting, okay,
because you think about the message that it is going
to send to the locker room. What they do with
Michaeh Parsons here. They made Zach Martin Waite, they made
DeMarcus Lawrence Mittwait, they made Dak Prescott waite the last time.
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So the guys in that locker room can look at
ownership right now and said, you made all of these
guys wait until after four years, until after their contracts
were up, to take care of them. What does that
mean to me? And that's why the MiCT thinks so
interesting because he's only been in the league three years.
CD they've made Waight right, So how do you handle
the Micah Parsons thing versus how you've handled Lamb now
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Prescott now Prescott before, Lawrence, before, Zach Martin before even
like a Dez Bryant, if you want to go further back.
It's just really interesting because the cowboys have been burned
so many times by waiting on these things, and now
they've got a guy who wants to get paid early.
How do they handle that? How does that resonate in
the locker room? That part's interesting, And then the Dak thing,
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of course, you have to be concerned with after what
Trevor Lawrence Scott. You know what damage waiting could do?
You know from here on out, if you're waiting and
Jordan Love and Tua get paid, does that raise mistakes
on what you got to pay Dak it certainly could,
and the franchise tag after the year. I'm sure you
know this Colin would cost them over eighty million dollars.
So that's not going to happen either.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I want to circle back to the jets now. I
was told and I know the area, but I didn't
want to report it. I I was told it was
not only overseas, but other.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Side of the Rye.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I was I was told the place that it was
not London. No, London's a quick jount from New York.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
So is is my you might connect through London? I
think right now?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, maybe you would connect. Yeah, so I would say this, Uh,
it was it was true international travel, not just you
know JFK the Heathrow. Was it a vacation or was
it an I heard the word event? What does that
mean event?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah? I just think so you use the the phrase
important to him? You know, I think that that is
probably the operative term here, and that I think is why,
probably why Robert Salah couldn't excuse it at least the
way I look at it, right like, because then what
would Garrett Wilson or Sauce Gardner or you know, whoever
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else pick a name of a young guy in that team,
Quinn Williams, what might be important to them that they
could come come to you with next year, Like what
could that be? So yeah, I think that was sort
of where this was a little tricky and where you know,
they had to sit down with Aaron and talk through
it now, like again, like this is this going to
have a long term effect on the team. I think
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that sort of depends on how camp starts, and Aaron
is still beloved in that locker room, so I can't
imagine there'd be a problem in camp, And is it
gonna be a problem when the season starts? Like that
to me would be the bigger question, because of course,
if they start zero and two, whether it's fair or not,
everybody's gonna be tying all of it back to that, right,
So I think that's where the real questions are to me,
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if like and I think you know, you and I
are in the same wavelength here. This is just about
getting the guy's mind right and him being where he
needs to be. Fine, you could have managed it a
little differently, but fine, But you do sort of open
up those questions down the line where you know if
the team does struggle in any way, people are going
to tie it back to this.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
In New York. Being New York, we know how that
can turn the temperature up.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh it was good, Albert Breer. We both kind of
think we know where it is. I'm not going to
report it. I don't want to be the first, but
I kind of think I know where it is. And
you feel the same way. You can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right. Uh Nantucket's around the corner for you, my friend,
get the spo.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Getting some color now too. I was out of the
lacrosse tournament this weekend. I think I'm I think.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I'm starting to build my build my base layer up good.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
See anybody all right? J Mack, Well, you're gonna find
out soon enough where it is. J Mack, And I
think from that point you'll have to just deal with it.
How you deal?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Can I drop like a what I think is a
funny liner.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean, I don't want to give away where we think,
or you think, or anybody thinks. But you know, certain
countries are closed in May. You can't visit in May.
You have to visit in June. That's why Rogers is there.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That's a joke.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
No countries are closed.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Aaron Rodgers could have gone anywhere in the world in May,
he chose to specifically go this week.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I think that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, I think you know you're one. I will say this,
you're a Jets fan that I think you generally are realistic.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'm a realistic fan unlike all the other Jabbroni's own
and just take me up, Colin. By the way, I'm
gonna I'm gonna take week one of the NFL. I'm
taking a vacation. Couldn't do it in August, so I'm
out week one.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Just thought i'd let you know that.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, how's that gonna go over?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
You think I'm gonna let gonna let that happen?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
You may not even be on the air. Bye too.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
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Speaker 1 (22:48):
So many good things to talk about, We'll be heading
back over to FS one. Top of next hour. Jmack
with the news.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, no turn on the news. This is the Herd
Line News.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
So all we have a lot of good things to
talk about. This is not great.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Brandon Ayuk in the last thirty forty five minutes here,
he went on TikTok and did something silly, So obviously
we know he's having issues with the Niners and contract negotiations. Well,
he posted a video on TikTok today facetiming with Jaden Daniels,
and he says on the video, they don't want me back.
I swear, Colin, this is petulant, childish behavior from Brandon
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Ayuki's not getting a Remember this is and I know
it's still the everybody, Well, who is trading now Yuke
for I'm just telling guys, the Niners are not doing that.
You're not giving up an all pro receiver in June
and not getting somebody back that's gonna help you.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
They're not trading it.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
He's just gonna have to deal with it or hold.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Out and get fine. But just the way he reveals
it in his video facetiming Jaden Daniels, who I guess
he was catching passes from the Arizona State.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Back in the day. They don't want me back. I
swear It's not good.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Not good?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Is this beyond? Is the damage done that they can't
fix this? Or is there still plenty.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Of I mean, I still when you run a professional
sports franchise, you're dealing with young men. Young men are immature.
You're just dealing with a lot of this stuff. Running
to my social media, this is like it's it's what
young emotional people do, right, Like this is how they
react end of the world stuff. The end is nigh.
So it's like you just kind of you this is
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what you in pro sports. The general manager and the
coach have to have be high on the EQ stuff,
you know what I mean, Like, you just got to
deal with some of this. This is the industry. You
deal with it. It's like officials deal with fans heckling them,
Comedians deal with hecklers. Like, if you're a general manager
of pro sports franchise, players are going to do this.
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It just gets just part of the job.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
You remember one day we were talking to a guy
who came in the studio quarterback and said, man, this
one wide receiver I was with fell in line. He
was awesome. He wanted that contract. That second he got it,
stopped showing up never the first time. You remember he
told us about this. Yeah, I'm just saying, Niners better
be prepared. You pay Ayuk at the height of his powers,
all pro and then he's just like showing up late,
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not working out as hard, not locking.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Those players get the bag and want to prove their
worth thing. But there are not all the good ten
to fifteen percent that just sort of never.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
The only people who know Ayuk really, really well are
the Niners. He's been in the building with them, right,
they have to have an idea on how he's going
to handle this.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Well. I think they like him. They just don't like
the number, but I think they like him. But for
the record, he still has a year left in his contract.
Organizations companies don't like to set precedents. He's got a
year left play.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
So the worst case for Ayuk would be he shows
does it, get the new deal, shows up and then
starts pouting and not being a me guy, and then Piersoll,
the young receiver, starts to show out.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well they have They have Christian McCaffrey, debo, their first
round pick, and Jennings here saw Jenny. They can win
a lot of games without Brandon and I don't forget
rock party, right, they can win a lot of games
without Brandon Aiyuk do I think he adds value. Absolutely,
you have. I mean he'll beat you down the field.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
He's a stud, no question.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
But the other stuff is what I would be concerned with.
Next story is Caleb Williams, your guy in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He's gonna be training with other NFL quarterbacks this summer
to prepare for his rookie year. Caleb's personal quarterback coach
confirmed Caleb will work with a handful of his peers,
including Rock Party and Anthony Richardson. Rock Party and Anthony
Richardson and Caleb Boys. That's an interesting trio, Colin.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
What do you make of this?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
If anything, I don't make any They're all young. I
don't make anything. Well, stylistically, they're all different.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Party's almost two year starters, been to an NFC Championship game,
got hurt, and then nearly won the Super Bowl against Cheeks.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
No, I don't I don't make any Are you trying
to create something here? What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I'm just presenting the facts that I'm letting you know.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I think there are a bunch of young guys that
want to work out together. I think age is the
common threat. Nothing else. Stylistically, money, none, of that. You know,
none of them are getting rich yet, although Caleb is
probably the first big NIL star, probably a year away.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
But the weird part is when you name these three,
it's like, uh, Okay, Purty nobody, Anthony Richardson nobody. There
are some expectations, but he's always hurting. It's like, oh, Caleb,
believe me, flashy news.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, he probably wants to work out with young dudes,
young guys just broke into the league. Perty's a two
year player, Richardson's a one year player. He's probably thinking
what can I glean from these young guys, Like you know,
old guys. If a guy's been in the league twelve years,
he forgets what his rookie year was, like he doesn't
really remember. It was a different league twelve years ago.
But Purdy broke in a couple of years ago, Richardson
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last year, and so Caleb probably thinking, like, I want
real time information on defenses. What do I learn? What
will I see? And by the way, you know, Brock
Purty was a multiple college multiple year college starter like Caleb,
So we probably want to glean some of that. And
I mean, to me, if I was Caleb Williams and
I wanted to work out with quarterbacks, I probably want to.
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You know, Age Adjason, Guys that are in my cun.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Wittn't hit up like I don't know Josh Allen or
Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Those guys are. They're established veterans. Do they remember their
rookie year that well? I mean, I think the Anthony
Richardson can say, dude, I just broke in last year
and let me tell you something, but blah blah blah blah,
and Brock Purty can say, yeah, you're gonna play some
of the same teams we do. Here's what I learned
as a guy that started for multiple years at Iowa State.
So I get it all right, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Final story is Houston Texans surprise team of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Awesome run with rookie quarterbacks CJ.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Stroud this year, the spotlight on him and wide receiver
Tank Dell says.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
The team is ready for that new role.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
You're ready.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You know, we all decided. You know, we have it's
harden on that bay.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
We've got a lot of things that we want to accomplish,
you know, super Bowl, say samed by Desk.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
So we ready to go work.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
That gonna be good Tanke Deell awesome storyline, this round
guy or something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
T is awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's still frustrating that they had him blocking in like
the middle of the line of scrimmage, remember.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Near the near the goal line. He got me like
a broken legger.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It was his growth.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
It's like, why do you have a small receiver doing that?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
And then he had the off season with the shooting
and it's just like, you know, Tankedel's a guy to easy.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Roof to root for. Yeah, I think when you look
at Houston, Houston is why the league is popular. A
complete tire fire. They get the coach and the quarterback right,
they get a GM who knows what he's doing, and
they have turned this from a laughing stock to a
team that's on the fringes of a Super Bowl bubble.
You can't do that in a year and a half
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without big money in the NBA or especially baseball. This
is why the NFL is king. It's the league of hope.
This was a laughing stock franchise, coach, coordinator, quarterback, and
then two years of really smart mostly B to B
plus acquisitions. They didn't take huge swings, but a lot
of Dalton Schultz. You know a lot of really good,
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solid NFL players. I like everything about them. I don't
trust the ownership, but GM coach, quarterback, coordinators, personnel.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Now it's very good for It's like they had their
superstar in Deshaun Watson. He goes sideways and it's like, hey,
you don't know how long it's gonna be to you
find another.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And they fall right into c J. Stroud, which is
pretty fortuitous.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
They're fun and they're fun to watch. They've got a
lot of electric dynamic players. They're like a fun watch.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, I mean, listen, they can't they couldn't do anything
against the Jets in the rain, and that's fine.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
But why don't we always go back to that game?
That game was barely on television. I mean it when
man been on Nickelodeon or something. It was barely.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I'm almost certain they not c J. Stroud into twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I don't know the game. I don't even know
if they filmed the game. It's like the least memorable
game of the year. It's the only one you bring up.
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
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Speaker 1 (32:12):
So Angel Rees quite a rivalry couple of years now
college and pro Caitlin Clark meet over the weekend. This
is a very hard foul. I have said flagrant fouls.
There's a classification for a reason. But when we show
you the foul, it's clearly a flagrant one. It's a
hard foul. What I have said is there were one
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hundred and thirty flagrants in the NBA just this year.
Last year in the w NBA there were sixty five,
exactly half, and they have exactly half as many games
as the NBA, so it all correlates. You get in
an NBA season one hundred and thirty of these, in
the WNBA season half the games you get about half
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the number. Listen, these are this is why you have them.
By the way, Angel Reese a bit of a villain,
but that doesn't mean only villains do this. Diana Tarassi
last year committed a flagrant foul. So did Asia Wilson
from Las Vegas. Non villains. It gets chippy. Here was
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Angel Reese after.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
The basketball player. I can't control the rest. Stay effected
the game obviously a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Tonight.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
I think we went up really strong a lot of times,
and we did get a lot of calls and going
back and looking at the film, I've seen a lot
of calls that weren't made, and I guess some people
got a special whistle. But just being able to play
hard as best as you can.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
We've said this before. Caitlyn's okay with it. She understands it.
Other people are struggling. Here's Caitlyn Clark reactions. She's Dak Prescott.
Every time she goes hose to the podium, she brings
down the heat. Here's Caitlin Clark on it.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
She was a part of basketball. That is what it is.
You know, she's trying to play, make a play on
the ball and get the block. But yeah, I mean
it happens. I think it's just the emotion of the
passion that we play with. I think people love to
see that, and I think that's maybe not something that
was always appreciated in women's sports, and it should be.
I think that's what makes it fun. Like people are,
(34:15):
we're competitors. That's the way the game should be. It's
gonna get a little feisty, it's gonna get physical, but
at the end of the day, both teams are just
trying to win.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Let's stop pandering to women's sports. It gets chippy and
physical and it can get contentious, and that's one of
the elements why we like guy sports. Let's not pander.
Let's realize as women's sports improves and grows, you're seeing
increased chippiness. Women now fight in UFC and it's really popular.
(34:51):
It is very athletic, getting better at times, very chippy.
That is a foul. You will see a bit cheap
sure in the WNBA and the NBA with regularity. Okay,
So Claye Thompson and this is becoming a thing now
kind of funny. Has scrubbed his social media of Golden
(35:13):
State Warrior stuff. So they offered him like a forty
eight million dollar deal for two years, twenty four million.
He said, I'm not going to do it. He's a
good player who wants really really good money and he's
not worth it. The Warriors are not a championship team.
The owner is going to be loyal to Steve Kerr,
Steph Curry and Draymond Green. Draymond is still elite at
(35:36):
what he does. Everything else floats. And remember this is
an owner in Joe lacub who blew past the salary
cap multiple times and paid a bloody fortune in taxes
for that. So the guy's already a California billionaire, which
(35:57):
is not like a Texas billionaire higher tax rates. Secondly,
he blew through the salary cap for years so much
so the league was uncomfortable and other owners complained, and
he paid huge taxes. So he's like, OK, hell, do
that if for a championship team. You know, it's the
same with Lebron. I do anything. When Lebron was getting
me to the finals every year, now he's not. There's
(36:17):
limitations on what I'm gonna give Lebron James. If this
team was a championship team, you blow through the taxes.
This is not a championship team. So the owners like Kerk, Curry, Draymond,
everything else moves. And I think he would be a
great bench player, like like the best bench player in
the league or an occasional bottom of the starting five rotation.
(36:40):
But they drafted a kid Pods last year and he
looks like the next Clay. He's just quicker and not
even yet it in his prime. So and also remember
he was zero for ten in the playoff game. Brutal.
He was brutal the year before in the playoffs. So
the recent track history of postseason basketball is bad for
Klay Thompson. We don't confuse cheap owner with a smart
(37:03):
allocation of funds. Again, if it's a championship team, we've
always said there there is a balancing act between is
it a star player or a good player? Are we
a championship team or maybe we sneak into the playoffs.
So this is not a championship club anymore. They got
to make a bunch of moves. I think they can
(37:25):
get into the playoffs if they're healthy. But you can't
pay Lay Thompson very good to great money when he's
just a good player. Here was Draymond Green on his
podcast regarding Clay scrubbing his social media of Warrior stuff.
Speaker 10 (37:42):
I know all of you were probably looking forward to
me talking about Clay on following the Warriors and I
could lead some Loji posted something I had no idea
that happened. I think it's hilarious, Just so y'all know,
I'm laugh I think that's comical. I know you all
be like somebody feelings to be hard of some It
(38:02):
ain't that ain't never gon to be that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, So Uh, it's a trend. I think sometimes athletes
feel powerless and so this is their way to signal
to the team in the market. I'm being treated, in
my opinion, poorly. So when you're a player, you're under contract,
you don't like the offer, what do you do? Where
do you go? You could go to a radio or
TV show and complain, But most of them, you know,
(38:28):
they're gonna disappear. They're gonna go to their social they're
gonna scrub it, and then the fans react, the media reacts,
and the player hopefully puts pressure. This is what j
Mac talked about a half hour ago. Brandon I Yuke
has said something on TikTok they don't want me. He's
also scrubbed before some media stime. This is just a player.
Players sometimes don't feel they have leverage, They get trapped,
(38:51):
their agent doesn't want them to do much, so they
just scrub their social media. Not what I'm gonna do,
you know, but to each their own. So you know,
Clay's been paid so well, so favorably for years. I
think this is the toughest time for all pro athletes.
You're out of your prime, you're still a good player,
you want to be paid at a very good rate.
(39:12):
And I get the owner saying I paid a fortune
in taxes and when you were giving me titles and
trophies and finals, I was willing to blow through it.
I'm not going to blow through it.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
There you go, j Mac. I will say this, We've
had the Caitlin Clark story, the Aaron Rodgers story, the
Brandon Ayuk story. You and I are in the interesting business.
I hope the NBA Finals Game five tonight is interesting.
My hunch is a veteran Boston team that a couple
(39:44):
years ago when they were younger blue a finals lead
against the Warriors will not mess around. I think you'll
get an completely focused, veteran high IQ Celtic team that
comes in and takes control of the game. They got
more good players on both sides, O and D.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
I would agree.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I'll ask again, now we asked this before the series,
who is the best player on the court tonight when
they tip off.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Probably Luca Yeah no, and he he'll price score forty.
But I have to, but I would say who's the
second best player in the series. It's been Jalen Brown,
and then Tatum and then Kyrie Irving, and you know,
whereas we viewed Kyrie as sort of the second best player,
he's been about the fourth best player. And then by
the way, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth. You have an
(40:29):
argument they're all Celtics.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I got to ask you about Kyrie because he's had
an up and down series.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
He was terrible in Boston.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
To him, Yes, his playoffs have been hot and cold.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Okay, see, he wasn't really a big factor. No, he
was great against Minnesota. But I just wonder he's making
some comments yesterday about the Boston fans are like a.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Colt, and.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
He had done a good job staying out of the nonsense,
you know, the SI side show stuff. I don't know
if he just kind of got back into it tonight.
It's gonna be about Kyrie, the audience, the fans. He's
going to come after Kyrie suck.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
That's clearly affected in the first two games in Boston,
he was clearly affected by it. So again people are saying,
what Boston team are we going to get? Well, let's
look at the makeup of the Boston team. Drew Holiday,
Tatum Brown, porzingis Al Horford, Derek White's a smart kid,
these are grown ups. You're not young teams up down
(41:23):
high lows. That's not what you're getting with this team.
I mean, Dallas is a younger team. They were unbelievable
in Game four. Yeah yeah, I mean, and they were
like awful in large parts of Games one and two.
I'll take the Celtics by about eight tonight. NBA Champs
Hour three.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
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