October 28, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin tells you why he was right about Matthew Stafford and wrong about the Lakers
More thoughts on the Jets loss to the Patriots and what might be next for Aaron Rodgers
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Here we go. It is a Monday at tour two.
We're live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you
may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for
making us part of your day. Jaymck and I have
talked about this. If I was the Cowboys, I would
consider moving some parts at the trade deadline. I don't
think they're close. Forget the AFC, which has been the
superior conference for years. I don't think they're close to
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San Francisco. San Francisco is it's down Christian McCaffrey. Different team.
I don't think they're as good as Washington or Detroit
or Green Bay. I still think the Rams have a
real push. Arizona yesterday, how about Arizona go on on
the Road. Oh come on, j Mac. That was impressive.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Killed me ras under Codd Miami collapsed real quick. I
just looked at the standings. Do you want to guess
out of sixteen teams where Dallas ranks in the NFC?
Not like stats, just record fourteenth, thirteenth, sixteenth. In the
next four games Dallas faces are good teams Commanders, Texans, Eagles, Falcons.
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They all won yesterday. Those teams are twenty two and seven. Well,
by the way, did you see the Texans Stefan Diggs
could be a season ender and still no Nico Collins.
So that Texans game, maybe Dallas has a world to
get back in and we'll see.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm not optimistic.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Wow, all right, Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of both
on a Monday, and.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Here we go where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
The Commanders were my preseason pick to be a dark
horse playoff team. I pick everyone. Last year it was
the Rams, this year it was the Commanders. They're number
three in yards per play. I think they have to
make a move, perhaps to shore up the cornerback position
in the trade deadline. Rising star listen. I really like
this staff between Kingsbury dan Quinn. They look well coached,
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but they've got some issues on the back end. But
this was our dark horse playoff team, and it appears
we got it.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Right where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
The minute I'm telling you how great Baltimore is. They
lose to Cleveland. Now the back end of their defense
is beat up. But I mean, you know, it's interesting.
They've lost the Raiders and the Browns, so maybe this
is a team that you know can get caught flat
footed when they're heavy favorites. But right now their past
defense is the worst in the NFL. I still have
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how Lamar almost twice gave him a chance to win,
throwing it into the end zone and buy in time.
But I was wrong on Baltimore this week, where Colin
was right. Bon Knicks. So I told you Vegas had
Denver at five wins. I said, nope, this is my
favorite over bet. They're already at five. Bon Knicks last
five games, ten touchdowns, one pick. Now, his passer rating
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isn't great. His completion of percentage will get better. He's
not his gift that as Jaden Daniels or Caleb Williams.
But Denver's a well coached team and in October bow
Knicks had a one to two zero point seven passer rating.
Touchdowns are going up mistakes are going down. Bow Knicks
looks like a franchise quarterbacks, and we thought he and
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Peyton were.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
The perfect fit.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Where Colin was raw, I've been trying to I've been
trying to believe the Bengals they're just gonna be okay
and as great as Joe Burrow is, and man, I
love watching him play. I mean, they let Jesse Bates
go the safety he's starring in Atlanta, they let Joe
Mixon go, he's starring in Houston. They peeled off people
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before they even paid Jamar Chase. This is an organization
that historically is cheap. Other organizations are called that they are,
and I feel bad for Joe Burrow. It's got an
in Indianapolis Andrew Luckfiel. I'm just not sure they're ever
gonna help this kid enough.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Where Colin was right, I've been saying this.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
If you go back to Aaron Rodgers last year in
Green Bay, he doesn't want an emotion, he doesn't move
terribly well. He's a pocket guy. I don't think he's
a unifier as a personality. I'm not blaming all the
problems on him. I thought when they fired Robert Slain,
I said that's the best coach in your staff, and
they've had three straight bad defensive performances. So I just
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don't buy into this organization. I thought the solemn move
was impulsive and ridiculous, and I don't think Aaron at
forty is the kind of player that can elevate a
decent roster, not a great one.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But yesterday was a low point where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I think the Lakers are a playing team. Well so far,
they're three and zero and they've beat the Suns, Kings
and Tea Wolves. And what I like about it is
clearly JJ Reddick has a plan usage rate for a
the highest ever use it Drake for Lebron, lowest ever.
That was very obvious in Game one. This is the
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first time since Phil Jackson's last year that the Lakers,
and they've beaten some good teams have started the season
three and zho.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What does it mean long term? Nothing? But what I
like you.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Can see we got a plan here. You can see
what JJ Reddick's trying to devise, which is this is
AD's team, Lebron's great lower's use it Drake keeps Lebron
fresher for a second half like he had this weekend
when you do need.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Him to deliver.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Where Colin was right, I never bought into the Matt
Stafford trade rumors last week.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Why would you let this guy go? He's brilliant?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And then on Thursday night he is just an incredible talent.
Finally got Pooka and Nikoua back and Cooper cup. But
I don't see why you would move off him. It's
not a good college quarterback draft class. There's nobody in
the world right now playing college football that's close to
Matt Stafford.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I mean, this happens.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
The Rams had cluster injuries in the offensive line and
a wide receiver, and they played good teams. But when
they've been at full strength, going back to last year,
they're seven and three. When they have Puka and Cooper
and Stafford and Kyron Williams, and their losses to the
Lions in overtime and to the Ravens in overtime.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
This is a really good team.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
They may not be a super Bowl team, yet, this
is a playoff team and I think they'll prove it
over the next month.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Where Colin was wrong, well.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I called Colorado the fake idea of college football. They're
telling you they're one thing they're not really well, I'm wrong.
They're officially Bowl eligible. They're running the ball. How about
Warren sapp has turned around that defensive front. They have
two legitimate Heisman candidates. They are now, They've beat Cincinnati,
not a bad football program. They're four and one in
the Big Twelve. And if you look at their schedule.
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I mean, we always thought Dion was interesting. We didn't
know if he was going to be a great coach.
I gotta be honest with you. Whenever he has problems,
he fit says them quickly, which is a sign of
a really good coach. Where Colin was right, Well, I
have said for years, spare me all you baseball purists,
give me stars and big brands. Well, fourteen million viewers,
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the highest viewership in seven years, watched the Yankees and
the Dodgers. There's Hall of Fame level players, two of
the three or four biggest brands in the sport. And
if you missed Friday's walk off, this has never been
done in World Series history, the first ever walk off
Grand Slam in the sports history in the World Series.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And here it is. Courts has deliveries, Freeman hits the
ball a right.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Field says, good, gimmy mate, Freddy.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Game one of the World Series.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Give me meat, Freddy. Joe Davis exquisite in the call Stuff.
Game three tonight in New York. Colin Wright, Colin wrong
on a Monday. And with that, Matt Hasselbeck, we love
him on Mondays. He's joining us live three Pro Bowl,
Super Bowl eighteen seasons. So let's go to Dallas, San Francisco.
Off of by I thought Dallas had a pretty that
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had a life in the first half. And then you know,
you've been in these locker rooms. Whatever Kyle Shanahan, whatever
potion or magic elix or we've had the team. Niners
had a perfect third quarter. But if I'm San Francisco,
I feel like Matt, We're down. We're down, like seven starters.
Brock Purty was a little off in the first half.
We didn't come off a bye. We came off an
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emotional Kansas City win. I thought it was a really
big win. When you can textualize the circumstances for San Francisco,
it doesn't It wasn't just another w your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, it's a little bit like a NASCAR race.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Sometimes you play in a game like that, you don't
want to lose the race early. You know, you don't
want to get in a crash early. And I thought
early on there were just some like crash and burn
situations for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I thought, I think you're right. I think Rock Purdy
played better than Dak.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
And that's a little bit surprising, I think to people
who tuned into that game last night.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, the what do you make of McCaffrey. The red
zone offense isn't the same. It's okay to admit McCaffrey's
the best. I mean the Walter Payton's the best running
back I ever saw. McCaffrey's in the short list of
the next I mean, maybe they just need him to
win big games.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
No, listen, it's kind of what I mean though, Colin, Like,
you come out with a game plan going into a
game against a good team, right, and that's.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
A good matchup.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
It's a heavyweight fight last night, and I think you
go into it like, hey, no big mistakes early. Okay,
let's run all of our different personnel groups, let's use
our shifts and motions. Let's see what their plan was,
and then we can kind of make a second half
adjustment and kind of go at it, and I think
like the.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Dallas Cowboys, it was sort of the opposite.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
You know, you had a first quarter interception that was
really really terrible by Dak, a third quarter interception that
was terrible, kind of had two like late fourth quarter
touchdown passes. But I would say, like the best thing
that I can say about Dak Prescott is I think
he's just oh mentally tough. But I just thought watching
the game last night, he didn't look good as a runner. Conversely,
Rock Perty looked very good as a runner. And then
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I just didn't think that Dak played as physically tough
as I've seen him play in the past. It looked
like he was feeling Bosa on the pressure. It was
like he wasn't trusting his protection and then he was
forcing balls that like, clearly you can for the amount
of money that he makes, and if you look at
the pie chart of where the money's going on that team,
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they need more from Dak Prescott. When I was playing,
I had a coach once say to me. He said
it all the time. He said, listen, with the.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Amount of money that you're making right now, you.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Need to be amazing.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Marinara Sauce over yesterday's pasta and some of the guys
that he's playing with by their contract there yesterday's pasta.
He needed to be that amazing Marinara Sauce to just
make it right, and last night he did not do that.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So I want.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I Usually when there's a Hail Mary, I feel bad
for the losing team I watched. I mean, it's just
gut it to watch a team that plays hard and loses. Yesterday,
I had no sympathy for Chicago. I thought the coaching
in the second half was awful. And I'm not somebody
that bangs on coaches a ton, but if somebody got
fired today, I'm like, yeah, that was that was embarrassing.
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Off a bye, take me to the hail Mary. For instance,
Chicago had a spy on Jaden Daniels. He's not gonna
run fifty.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Ten foolish now? Is that? What did you take?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Yeah? That was wrong? Let me yeah, go sorry.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Let me just let me just say this, like I
heard the press conference afterwards and the head coach is.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Talking about we practiced this all the time. Let me
give you the reality of it.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
I don't know if you know this, but yes, you
practice this every single Saturday. You practice it in training camp,
but never I played eighteen years in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Never once, never, one time.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Did we ever practice it competitively. Typically, what you do
is you practice it. Okay, it's the offense's turn. Okay,
you're live, you drop back, you throw it up real high.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
You have spots.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
There's coaching too, and it's the offense's turn to go
catch the ball. And it's like, all right, let's do
it again. Now it's the defense's turn. And now there's
like a point man, there's a front guy, there's people
all boxing out. Think free throw of a basketball game.
That's exactly what it is. Now they drop the ball
on it clearly. But I don't know how you fix
it if you're not practicing it with intention or you know,
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maybe even practicing it with some level of competition where
you're competing for the ball, where you're filming it. Typically
you don't film a Saturday practice. So unless you're like
really dialed in and really watching it or learning from
other people's mistakes, you're not getting it fixed. The best
coach I ever had coaching and the hail Mary, was
probably Chuck Bogano.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Chuck Bogana would go back in the archives.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
He'd go back to the New England Patriots versus the
New York Giants, Hail Mary, that really could have gone
New England's way, and he would show, hey, if this
ball would have bounced a little bit different, this guy
wasn't boxing out. This guy wasn't boxing out. But typically
it's something that people gloss over. And I think, I
think the Chicago Bears got caught. That's something that they
glossed over. And it's going to cost him this year, you.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Know, Matt. And I think what makes it worse is
stuff that happened before that. So they had a moment
it was their best drive of the game, Chicago, and
they went they put a center in and I'm like, Chicago,
it's your best drive. You got a mobile quarterback, you
got good you got good running backs. What wouldn't you
if you're a quarterback, could you say, guys, this isn't
the time to call it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I actually understand why this happens. It reminded me a
little bit of like William the Refrigerator Perry. I know,
in Chicago, it's kind of cool, you know, like it's
cool unless you're Walter Payton.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Then it's not cool.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
But listen, these offensive coordinators are human, and they're seeing
all the love that Detroit got with Ben Johnson, all
these plays to the offensive lineman, and like, I think
that plays into it. I think like, oh, we got
this play, we practiced it, it looks good.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I don't hate it.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I actually don't think I would throw stones at the
at the Chicago game plan, I thought they did a
pretty good job. I thought the offense did enough right
to give themselves a chance to win that game. But
but that, to me, that play was not game ready.
It's almost like they rushed it. Like I would say
this like when my kids got got their driver's license
at sixteen, they were like, Hey, we want to go
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downtown Boston. I was like, nah, you're sticking around the neighborhood. Yeah,
we need a little more like time on task here.
And that just looked like a play that they put
in maybe a couple of weeks ago. They repped it
like two times, and uh, yeah, that was that was
That probably wasn't the right call for them, but I
think I understand why it got called.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Okay, let's go back to the hail Mary. There's a
player for the Bears, you know, jawing with fans at
Monday or Tuesday's meeting. How is that addressed by the staff?
Is it addressed? When you I mean it's I mean again,
he ended up moving over, but it's it's systematic of.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Yeah, it's a terrible situation. Listen, that stuff happens. I
I would say this though, there's enough blame to go around.
And how this gets handled on a Monday, Tell the
Truth Monday is what it's called.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
How this gets handled on it Tell the Truth Monday.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
In the film room, we'll determine a lot of how
this team comes together it doesn't come together, because what
should happen, Like I don't know if twenty nine is
the box out guy here, like he's probably not.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
So there's probably another defender.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
On that field that probably has to say, hold up, actually,
I'm actually we lost the game because I didn't box out.
And then there needs to be a coach that stands
up and says, you know what, I could have taken
the bullet at the podium, and I didn't. You know,
I actually deflected and I knew exactly what happened. And
that's on me because my job is to prepare you,
and I didn't prepare you, or I let it slide.
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And from here on out, I'm not letting anything slide. Okay,
I'm sick about this my entire coaching career. I'll be
sick about this. This isn't on you, this is on me.
But the next time I tell you to do something
and you don't do it, You're out, You're gone. You
won't have a job here, and I'll make sure you
don't have a job anywhere. Like that's the That's kind
of how those meetings typically go. But no, there's there's
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more than there's There's more than twenty nine to blame
on that play, right there, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So there've been, in my opinion, three great offensive lines
in a decade. That early Dak Prescott Cowboy O line
about five or six years with the Eagles before Jason
Kelsey retired and Detroit. Now give me the bag. Jared
Goff looks, it's like he's in a recliner. He's so comfortable.
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Give me the best offensive line you played with And
how it changes emotionally physically? How does it change because
Goff is his accuracy now is through the roof.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, well, listen, I think the best offensive line that
I played with would probably be five.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
In Seattle.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
We had the left side Hall of famers Walter Jones,
Steve Hutchinson, Robbie Tobek's one of the greatest leaders I've
ever been around as a center, very smart player, and
two very underrated players on the right side, Chris Gray
from Auburn, Sean Locklear from NC State. And we had
a great fullback that's a part of it, tight ends
that can block. We had Penn State wide receivers and
Joe Jarvisius and Bobby Ingram who knew how to block.
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Everybody's involved in the running game. Everybody but I would
say that it's a mindset, and Dan Campbell has instilled a.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Mindset in an identity.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Ben Johnson has the scheme, and then I do believe
in a roundabout way, Sean McVay deserves some credit because
under center play action Jared Goff is as good as
there is in the game. And the amount of audibling
redirecting the mic. You know, they've called three plays in
the huddle at once. It'll be we're running this alert
to that kills to this, and so like they're never
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really seemingly in a bad play, and it's a shift
and its a motion, it's a hard count, it's coming
out of the huddle really quick, it's staying in the
huddle a long time. It's changing personnel groups. So I
think it's all of those things combined. But that team
is right now and they are offensive on offense, and
a lot of times offenses play kind of defensive. Yeah,
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and that's not what the Detroit Lions do.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, it's almost like they're they're they're putting everything on
film for everybody to see. We're gonna make you stay
up for weeks. We're gonna have three different guys throwing.
A lot of teams want to hide their trick plays.
It feels like Detroit saying, now we're gonna run about
twenty two this year. You have to pick your so
it'll slow down defenses. That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, you're right, And you know what, some of the
plays that they're running aren't super complicated plays. You know,
one of their first touchdown passes yesterday was just on
the uh, the old John Gruden spider too. Why banana
without the banana, It's just the spider too. They were like,
we are so confident that this play is gonna work.
We're gonna motion the guy over who's gonna bluff and
then be in the flat that we're really not even
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gonna run anybody else on a route. Like half the time,
there's like one real receiver on the whole play because
they know that they know that they know that Golf's
gonna have them in the right play and it's going
to be wide open, and so it's just it's a mindset.
It's scheme and uh in Golf's the kind of like
the choreographer of the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Finally, Matt Hasselbeck, with the trade deadlines coming, Jay McK
and I talked about if I was Washington, I would
consider getting a corner. I think they're for real. I
think they're well coached. I think they're capable of winning
a playoff game. I don't think they're ready for Detroit yet.
There's steps to it. But I was thinking about the Jets.
They have two corners and they're struggling, and you have
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Aaron who you don't want to lose.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
They have.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I mean, the Jets are one of the only teams
in the league that could lose a corner and still
have a great corner. Would you consider as a GM
of the Jets making the move to get a draft
pick you may need to draft a quarterback. If Aaron
shuts it down, what would that do to a locker?
You've been on buyers and sellers at the trade deadline?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
What does it do? Matt?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, the Jets, come on, they started the moment they
let their head coach walk out the door, they were selling,
so that, yes, you're absolutely right. I think there's other teams,
like you mentioned Washington, they don't necessarily want to trade, right,
they don't want to go like I don't think they
feel like they're all the way there yet. But there's
gonna be teams like the Chiefs who are gonna be
in the market to trade. There's gonna be Detroit they're
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gonna make a run at it. And I think teams
like Washington they're gonna be like, no, we got no choice,
we got no choice. We gotta we gotta get in
the game. So yeah, I think that could definitely happen.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
With the Jets. I mean it's it's sort of like,
to me, that's a no brainer. They're a mess.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I mean, they look like they almost look like they're
being punished to play. I had a running back coach
wants Stump Mitchell who used to say, and not like
a pregame pep talk, it was awesome. He'd be like,
you know why these guys are coming out here to play.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Us this week?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Because the league is making them like they don't want
to come out here and play this game. And like
that's actually what I thought, Like, man, that's crazy. Can
you imagine being on a team like they didn't want
to play on Sunday? Like I sort of feel like
watching them, like literally it's like pulling teeth. Man.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
It's like every single play is like the play down.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
To two one yes, sign out or delay a game
or like get it off. It's like, I don't know
something's off right there. It just it's tough to watch. Yeah,
it's it's not good.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
By the way, I'll throw this stat at you. I
learned this this morning. It had been twelve years since
a team had no turnovers, held an opponent to under
two hundred and fifty yards, and lost teams were two
hundred and twenty and zero. If you don't turn it
over and hold him under two fifty and the Jets
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broke the streak, So to me, it's systemic, Like you
can blame Aaron, but I think you just pointed to something.
They are so slow out of the huddle, they are
so slow.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
At the line. Aaron's not providing juice. They just feel
like they're plodding through a game.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Well, yeah, and listen, he's not the same as he was.
I mean, mobility was one of his greatest strengths. I
mean that dude was amazing in the pocket. He's amazing
at a lot of things. But using his legs with his
eyes downfield, are using his legs to get a first down?
That was like vintage, you know, like that was that's gone.
I don't think when's the last time he even had
a rushing attempt.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, I don't think you had one yesterday. Like it's
that's part of that, That's part of it.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I also think they playing winning football as a team
and understanding like the team's problem is something that's underrated
and you know, like I don't know, they're on the
struggle bus right now.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Can they get back on can they get back on track?
A little bit?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Like yeah, but you're talking trade deadline, that's like the
perfect team.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
To me, Matt Hasselbeck as ohs love having you on.
Mondays Man, you make us smarter.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Appreciate it, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
See go all right, Matt.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Hasselback eighteen years, Super Bowl, multiple Pro Bowls, one more Herd.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
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Speaker 3 (23:19):
All right, Let's start with a game I felt great about,
and that's Eagles Bengals.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Remember I was like curious, what was going on with
this line.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
It was a great showdown between a matchup of twenty
nineteen Heisman finalists.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Jalen Hurts out duel.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Joe Burrow yesterday two hundred thirty six yards four total touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Saquon Barkley had one hundred on the ground.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Jalen Hurts afterwards spoke to the team's impressive win.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Today, was it's a great team win, a great showing
as a team. I think we're slowly finding it and
trying to piece things together. Ultimately, this comes down to
cadence and rhythm and how we play and then in
the end optimized. I'm all of the talent that we have.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Well, I think that was the beatdown.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think that's probably as well as Philadelphia has played
in a second half in over a year. Like so
that you may just say to yourself, well, you know,
it's just beating the Bengals, but this is a franchise.
I mean you could I mean the Cowboys were off
a bye. You know you can say, well, San Francisco,
San Francisco, you have to take care of these moments
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when you are the better team. You got a flex
and Philadelphia's got better players. I thought I thought going
into the weekend Cincinnati would win a you know, kind
of a close game. They stepped on the throat like
that was Philadelphia saying we got a lot better players.
And by the way Jalen Hurts, they've shrinked what they've
asked him to do sixteen completions, no turnovers. He had
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about ten rushes. They didn't ask him to do anything crazy.
The bottom line. Last three games they have looked at
Jalen Hurts and said, let's shrink the profile isle of
what we're asking you to do. He's running more at
feels like in the last couple of weeks, which, by
the way, this is his gift. He's not the best
pocket quarterback. He throws a very nice deep ball. The
Eagles have defined, Okay, this is what he does. Let's
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lean into what he does with his athletic ability and
his movement, and they've kind of created some clarity on
the offense.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And I thought it was really impressive. I mean really impressive.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Colin the last six times they had the ball, they
went touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, touchdown, field goal. I
mean the Bengals could not stop him. I'm surprised they
haven't fired their defensive coordinator yet. Like, that was a
bad performance and you got to start looking at this
Bengals team. I thought they would turn it around in
like the summer. They were one of my Super Bowl picks.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
They look anemic without t Higgins.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
When they have no difference like also were missing their
left tackle.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
My Lota and Hendrickson did nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Why did they move off Jesse Bays, Joe Mixon before
they paid Jamar Chase?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Why why are you doing that? Make it work?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I mean, Joe Mixon, you've never supported him on the
offense of line. When you when you have a great
running back, don't let him walk out the door. You
see how much mixing matters for seeds.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Over one hundred again yesterday. Yeah. And by the way,
Jesse Bates, they let him go. He's a stud dude.
He's a pro bowler for Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So it's like these better front offices, you know, like
just just the Kansas City just made a move to
get another pass rusher from the Patriots. Like these better
these better organizations, they take advantage of bad teams or
rebuilding teams. Atlanta has now got, you know, a great
Pro Bowl level safety and they went and got Matt
Judon from the Patriots. So they're not a great defensive team.
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But when you have these opportunities like Cincinnati, Joe Burrow
has struggled to stay healthy. Don't plan for the future.
Keep your good players now and give yourself a shot.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'll just say this.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Eagles seem to be on looking really good, right sneaky
game against Jacksonville and Doug Peterson this week. Remember Doug
Peterson probably not thrilled that he was run out of
town because after that they have Dallas and Washington.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Those are huge games in the NFC. I like the
Eagles this week, but it could be a tall order,
a little bit of a sandwich game. There you go.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Next up Green Bay Packers. This one hurt us, Colin.
We should have had the cover here.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well, they were going to go in for a touchdown,
but they fell. Running back takes the knee at like
the two yard line.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Oh so they don't get the ball. I mean it's
a smart play, but it killed us. Anyways, Jordan Love
got injured again this time. It's a growing Malik Willis
had to come in early in the second half, and
Malik will At delibered. He had a really nice fifty
one yard pass to Jayden Reid. Yeah, and then the
Packers get to walk off field goal. Here's Lafleur on
Jordan Love's status.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
Obviously high level of concern anytime guy's in there, and
he did it early in that first drive, and I
think you guys, I think everybody could see him struggling
to move around, and I just got to a point
where we didn't we didn't feel like and he didn't
feel like he could protect himself. So went with Maleik.
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And can't say enough great things about Malik Willis the
job that he's able to do to go win there.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, Malik Willis has become one of the more dependable
backup quarterbacks in the NFL. Again, a great organization, Green
Bay looks at an organization that doesn't have their act
together coaching transition, they go get Malik Willis. He's a
highly highly effective backup quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I know, listen, you like Mike Rabel. Everybody likes Mike Rabel.
He's gonna probably get a coaching job in this next step.
He moved off Malik Willis. Like this guy can't play.
Malik Willis looks like he's probably a top five backup.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
In the league. Oh, top five in terms of juice.
He's got a ton of juice.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Like he got thrown in their cold yesterday on the
road in a game they should have blown out by
the way Packers two for six in the red zone.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I mean that that was the right side.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
They got to cover that game, yea, and Willis all
he did was deliver game winning drive at the end
of the game.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
This is another example if you don't think coaching matters.
I mean, you watch the Bears off a bye. The
Bears like first seven possessions, it was six punts off
of by. You're watching green Bay. Star quarterback goes out
in real time, put the backup in efficient quick playmates,
no mistakes the gap. This is why the Packers have
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helped dominate this division. It's not just far Ban Aaron Rodgers,
it's Mark Murphy good at Kunst la Fleur. I mean,
this is a really good operation. Anytime they get something
thrown at them, it's almost like they're prepared for it. Now.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Game of the week is Packers Lions this week now,
So when you want to guess the line, it's in
green Bay. However, the line is assuming no Jordan Love.
The Packers have a bye the following week, so it's like,
why would out Jordan Love the Lions at at green Bay.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Detroit minus five and a half. It's four and a half,
so at least it was this morning. Not a bad guess.
I would look Packers there Oh I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Not just Malik Willis against this Lions.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Well, no, Aiden Hutcheson, Come on, Mason Rudolph look good
for half outside of the turnovers, you look competent by
a quarter and a half, not a whole final story.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh this this got me ticked off.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yesterday Justin Herbert uh was was really impressive against the
Saints yesterday until this garbage play happened, like unbelievable. Nathan
Shepherd of the Saints has Justin Herbert by the leg
and then Herbert unloads the ball and this guy, Nathan
Sheppard like twisted Herbert's ankle to bring him down. It
was super dirty and the Charger center Bradley Boseman saw
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it and just destroyed the guy.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Here's here's a bothman after the game. Probably one of
the dry year plays I've ever saying. You protect your quarterbacks,
You protect a quarterback, no matter what I think. A
f lapis O woman that was in that position that
done the exact same take. You know, I feel like
buying Bradley Boseman dinner.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
By the way, he was in Carolina. They couldn't get
rid of Hi fast enough. He just defended his quarterback
and apparently, according to the producer, Jim Harball gave Bothman
the game ball this right here, I mean, that's pretty
awesome from Jim Harball.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
High school wrestler there. Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Damn that was a hit.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But by the way, that is a dirty But if
I'm the NFL, I look at that, I would suspend
Shepherd for absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
We don't need that. We don't need that stand back.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
If I recall watching this game, both players got a penalty,
and that to me is it didn't that happen?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I think they gave both guys That is to me bothered.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Man, you can't give if I'm retaliating to protect my French,
protecting any player, why are you penalizing me? He would
have if that guy wasn't there. Bozeman wasn't there. He's
doing the turnbuckle tree in what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And I get it, Herbert Jack just unloaded the ball,
But you still don't need to be tweaking the leglick.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
That's how you got a serious injury.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
We don't we don't need quarterback going down come, especially
justin Herbert, especially who we by the way, chargers sneaky
looking good man they're just a lad mcconkee. Couple of
touchdowns yesterday.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
By the way, I got a good hardball story before.
You can't reveal it on air. I'll save it for
the break.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Uhmar No, what are you doing for the audience?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Now?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Maybe I'll put it on air a little bit later
later in the week. Okay, j Mack with the news.
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You know, I'm glad you put that play on the
air because a lot of people aren't watching all this
stuff go on. But it was I mean, that guy
that was an attack dog like Bradley Boseman was on
that stuff, and I so Carolina let him go.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
They picked him up.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
We just said, the Patriots just let go of one
of their outside linebacker Rushians. Nice player, one of the
better players, I think. So the Patriots, you know, Brett Veach.
Kansas City, they went and got d Hop and then
they went and got another pass rusher. So Kansas City,
that's a prime example. Kansas City's like, we're going for it.
It's like when Atlanta got Matt Judahan before the season
and Jesse Bates, like we got Kirk Cousins. Kirk's probably
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got two years. We have this great offensive line, we
have young Beijon Robinson, Drake Lunt. Let's go all in
pass rusher safety. Kansas City's doing it in season. Atlanta
did it right before the season. But when you have
an older quarterback or you have a window, go for it.
And that's exactly what the Chiefs are doing.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Josh Uce is the name.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah he's good player, solid, Yeah, good player. So he'll
get to the quarterback, He'll I mean, it's like Chris
Jones on the interior is I'm surprised they're doing it
because they have a I thought they had a couple
of rush guys, the guy from Purdue.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
They like, yeah, you know, just trying to pick up picks. Hey,
real quick.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
The Matt Eberflus is at the podium right now, and
he just announced that cornerback Tyreek Stevenson was supposed to
box out Noah Brown on the hail Mary. Stevenson was
the guy number Tanda Jack and with the crowd, that's brutal.
Colin I desire, Oh my god, Well, like, how do
you face the locker room after that?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
What I mean, your job, you had one job on
that play, and it wasn't to talk trash.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I mean, listen, don't want to beat up on all athletes,
but you play forty five to fifty plays a game,
sometimes a lot of times if you're not a quarterback.
A running back will play twenty seven snaps all week.
We ask you to be focused for twenty seven snaps.
Just for twenty seven be into the moment.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Average Americans working five six days a week, sixty hours
a week, we're asking you to work for three hour
and by the way, your side of the ball, we're
asking you to be on the field for about twenty
minutes of actual playing time twenty minutes a week.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Just lock in, just lock in one. You don't care
that you make mistakes. I don't care if you make.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Everybody makes mistakes, everybody missing NBA guys, miss dunks, I
don't care.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I mean the hail Mary doesn't bother me. You can't
be doing that. Grow up. I don't care who young
you are. Stop the media is like pandering. Stop it.
You're asking this kid to be good for.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Thirty nine snaps on a Sunday. You know you can
jaw with somebody during a practice and get barked out.
You can't do it during games on the road when
you've been out.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
He had his back to the field, he wasn't even looking.
The ball snapped and he's still pointing at guy's in
flexing like it. I mean, this is hopefully the kid bounces.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Back from this. You know, I've had some flop. I'm
not ringing against him going forward. It's like, let's not
pander here.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's but it's easy for him to get sideways and
people look at him like come on, dude, I mean
you anywhere he goes this week at Chicago, like this
guy's gotta be home down, he's gonna get yelled at.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I'd stay home and watch game film or Netflix. I
wouldn't go out.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
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Speaker 3 (35:23):
What a great start for Freddy Freeman and the Dodgers
as they've raced out to it to zero lead. Tonight
from the Yankee Stadium, It's a pivotal Game three as
Judge and the Yankees look to get back in the series.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Covich begins at seven pm Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Nice stadium business, pretty as dollar for stadium game and
that just being honest. So the Jets lose to the
Patriots yesterday, it so so much movement with this franchise.
Season's over. I think they should be sellers at the
trade deadline. Move off one of the corners, maybe not
Sauce Gardner, move off the other corner. Get some picks.
You got to start creating picks so you can draft
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another quarterback. Because Aaron may just call it a career.
They're not playing well. He's forty, he doesn't want motion.
He's kind of a rigid guy, stuck in the pocket,
stuck in his way. It's not pretty.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
And here's Jeff Ulbrich on the loss to the lowly Patriots.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Every single human being out there has got to be better.
Aaron's got to be better, Coach has got to be better.
All of us got to be better. This is a
moment of darkness, and we understand that the outside world
is going to get really loud right now. But the
only thing I know in life is that when it
gets dark and it gets hard, that you work.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, I think I think a bigger issue here.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Forget all the darkness stuff is that if you start
looking around the league, there's only about I mean there's
a couple of pocket quarterbacks like Jared Goff who are excelling.
But Jared Goff has the best offensive line in football
and a stacked roster, and Jared's in his athletic prime.
Aaron's a pocket quarterback and is way out of his
athletic prime. And Matt Hasselbeck, not prone to criticizing quarterbacks,
(36:57):
stepped up about a half hour ago and said, just
doesn't look the same with Ar.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
He's not the same as he was. I mean, mobility
was one of his greatest strengths. I mean that dude
was amazing in the pocket. He's amazing a lot of things,
but using his legs with his eyes downfield, or using
his legs to get a first down, that was like vintage,
you know, like that was, but that that's gone. I
don't think when's the last time he even had a
rushing attempt. I don't think he had one yesterday. Like
(37:24):
it's that's part of that. That's part of it. I
also think they playing winning football as a team and
understanding like the team's problem is something that's underrated, and uh,
you know, like I don't know, they're they're on the
struggle bus right now.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, think about this. J Mack, you're from you met
your wife in New York. Think about right now. Matt's extinguished.
Yankees down. Oh two Giants will lose tonight to the Steelers.
The Jets lost yesterday, the Knicks got housed by the Celtics.
I mean, it's New York has gone through a decade
(37:58):
of disappointment. I mean, it's honestly, I'm sitting there watching
this yesterday. I'm like, I mean, I guess it's great
to be a New York radio host now because you
can complain and it's funny. And the callers, I mean,
here in Los Angeles, it's like, we're sitting here. I
have a friend and I'm like, you, I understand. I
tell them all the time. You know, lucky you are
to live in a cities from here. I'm like, even
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the Chargers hired the right coach. I mean, the Rams
have a great coaching quarterback, the Chargers do. USC is struggling,
but they'll get it. Lincoln Riley's one of the top
ten coaches in college football. The Dodgers are amazing. The
Lakers playing well. The Clippers have a new arena. It's
amazing to watch what has happened to LA over the
last decade. And California teams in general are even. The
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Padres now spend like the Red Sox did fifteen years ago.
New York teams are a mess.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Did you see someone compiled it?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
But starting with the Rams win on Thursday and the
Dodgers two wins usc one on Friday.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
The Clippers have won two in a row, the Lakers
have one.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Th Like LA's winning every everything for the last five days,
every single game, they haven't lost anything.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
It's like unbelievable. The strets are on right now, and
then New York can't get out of its way.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Well, I mean, I listen, It's an entertainment capital. The
weather's Mediterranean. There's a lot of things. The economy is big,
so I mean there's a lot of reasons. Pro athletes
like it and people are attracted to it. But I
have said this before. One of the reasons LA flourishes
and New York doesn't we have better owners. The Dodgers
owners are unbelievable. I mean, Steve Ballmer's the richest NBA owner.
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We have really good owners, and that's it. All starts upstairs.
I mean, you're fire and Robert Sla in a game
the next week, had you beaten Buffalo, you were in
first place.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I mean it's just not good owners, really bad front offices.
Over under one Jets player traded this week.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I mean, if I'm running the Jets up, of course
I'm moving off one of my corners. You're not even
an elite defense. You're not playing for anything. Go, you know,
forget sauce. You could get a third round pick. You
need picks. You gotta rebuild this mess. You gotta go
get a quarterback, all right. Mark Sanchez Hour three on
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Here we go. It is a Monday at tour two.
We're live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you
may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for
making us part of your day. Jaymck and I have
talked about this. If I was the Cowboys, I would
consider moving some parts at the trade deadline. I don't
think they're close. Forget the AFC, which has been the
superior conference for years. I don't think they're close to
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San Francisco. San Francisco is it's down Christian McCaffrey. Different team.
I don't think they're as good as Washington or Detroit
or Green Bay. I still think the Rams have a
real push. Arizona yesterday, how about Arizona go on on
the Road. Oh come on, j Mac. That was impressive.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Killed me ras under Codd Miami collapsed real quick. I
just looked at the standings. Do you want to guess
out of sixteen teams where Dallas ranks in the NFC?
Not like stats, just record fourteenth, thirteenth, sixteenth. In the
next four games Dallas faces are good teams Commanders, Texans, Eagles, Falcons.
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They all won yesterday. Those teams are twenty two and seven. Well,
by the way, did you see the Texans Stefan Diggs
could be a season ender and still no Nico Collins.
So that Texans game, maybe Dallas has a world to
get back in and we'll see.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm not optimistic.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Wow, all right, Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of both
on a Monday, and.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Here we go where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
The Commanders were my preseason pick to be a dark
horse playoff team. I pick everyone. Last year it was
the Rams, this year it was the Commanders. They're number
three in yards per play. I think they have to
make a move, perhaps to shore up the cornerback position
in the trade deadline. Rising star listen. I really like
this staff between Kingsbury dan Quinn. They look well coached,
(02:08):
but they've got some issues on the back end. But
this was our dark horse playoff team, and it appears
we got it.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Right where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
The minute I'm telling you how great Baltimore is. They
lose to Cleveland. Now the back end of their defense
is beat up. But I mean, you know, it's interesting.
They've lost the Raiders and the Browns, so maybe this
is a team that you know can get caught flat
footed when they're heavy favorites. But right now their past
defense is the worst in the NFL. I still have
(02:37):
how Lamar almost twice gave him a chance to win,
throwing it into the end zone and buy in time.
But I was wrong on Baltimore this week, where Colin
was right. Bon Knicks. So I told you Vegas had
Denver at five wins. I said, nope, this is my
favorite over bet. They're already at five. Bon Knicks last
five games, ten touchdowns, one pick. Now, his passer rating
(03:01):
isn't great. His completion of percentage will get better. He's
not his gift that as Jaden Daniels or Caleb Williams.
But Denver's a well coached team and in October bow
Knicks had a one to two zero point seven passer rating.
Touchdowns are going up mistakes are going down. Bow Knicks
looks like a franchise quarterbacks, and we thought he and
(03:24):
Peyton were.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
The perfect fit.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Where Colin was raw, I've been trying to I've been
trying to believe the Bengals they're just gonna be okay
and as great as Joe Burrow is, and man, I
love watching him play. I mean, they let Jesse Bates
go the safety he's starring in Atlanta, they let Joe
Mixon go, he's starring in Houston. They peeled off people
(03:47):
before they even paid Jamar Chase. This is an organization
that historically is cheap. Other organizations are called that they are,
and I feel bad for Joe Burrow. It's got an
in Indianapolis Andrew Luckfiel. I'm just not sure they're ever
gonna help this kid enough.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Where Colin was right, I've been saying this.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
If you go back to Aaron Rodgers last year in
Green Bay, he doesn't want an emotion, he doesn't move
terribly well. He's a pocket guy. I don't think he's
a unifier as a personality. I'm not blaming all the
problems on him. I thought when they fired Robert Slain,
I said that's the best coach in your staff, and
they've had three straight bad defensive performances. So I just
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don't buy into this organization. I thought the solemn move
was impulsive and ridiculous, and I don't think Aaron at
forty is the kind of player that can elevate a
decent roster, not a great one.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But yesterday was a low point where Colin was raw.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I think the Lakers are a playing team. Well so far,
they're three and zero and they've beat the Suns, Kings
and Tea Wolves. And what I like about it is
clearly JJ Reddick has a plan usage rate for a
the highest ever use it Drake for Lebron, lowest ever.
That was very obvious in Game one. This is the
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first time since Phil Jackson's last year that the Lakers,
and they've beaten some good teams have started the season
three and zho.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What does it mean long term? Nothing? But what I
like you.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Can see we got a plan here. You can see
what JJ Reddick's trying to devise, which is this is
AD's team, Lebron's great lower's use it Drake keeps Lebron
fresher for a second half like he had this weekend
when you do need.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Him to deliver.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Where Colin was right, I never bought into the Matt
Stafford trade rumors last week.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Why would you let this guy go? He's brilliant?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And then on Thursday night he is just an incredible talent.
Finally got Pooka and Nikoua back and Cooper cup. But
I don't see why you would move off him. It's
not a good college quarterback draft class. There's nobody in
the world right now playing college football that's close to
Matt Stafford.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I mean, this happens.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
The Rams had cluster injuries in the offensive line and
a wide receiver, and they played good teams. But when
they've been at full strength, going back to last year,
they're seven and three. When they have Puka and Cooper
and Stafford and Kyron Williams, and their losses to the
Lions in overtime and to the Ravens in overtime.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
This is a really good team.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
They may not be a super Bowl team, yet, this
is a playoff team and I think they'll prove it
over the next month.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Where Colin was wrong, well.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I called Colorado the fake idea of college football. They're
telling you they're one thing they're not really well, I'm wrong.
They're officially Bowl eligible. They're running the ball. How about
Warren sapp has turned around that defensive front. They have
two legitimate Heisman candidates. They are now, They've beat Cincinnati,
not a bad football program. They're four and one in
the Big Twelve. And if you look at their schedule.
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I mean, we always thought Dion was interesting. We didn't
know if he was going to be a great coach.
I gotta be honest with you. Whenever he has problems,
he fit says them quickly, which is a sign of
a really good coach. Where Colin was right, Well, I
have said for years, spare me all you baseball purists,
give me stars and big brands. Well, fourteen million viewers,
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the highest viewership in seven years, watched the Yankees and
the Dodgers. There's Hall of Fame level players, two of
the three or four biggest brands in the sport. And
if you missed Friday's walk off, this has never been
done in World Series history, the first ever walk off
Grand Slam in the sports history in the World Series.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And here it is. Courts has deliveries, Freeman hits the
ball a right.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Field says, good, gimmy mate, Freddy.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Game one of the World Series.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Give me meat, Freddy. Joe Davis exquisite in the call Stuff.
Game three tonight in New York. Colin Wright, Colin wrong
on a Monday. And with that, Matt Hasselbeck, we love
him on Mondays. He's joining us live three Pro Bowl,
Super Bowl eighteen seasons. So let's go to Dallas, San Francisco.
Off of by I thought Dallas had a pretty that
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had a life in the first half. And then you know,
you've been in these locker rooms. Whatever Kyle Shanahan, whatever
potion or magic elix or we've had the team. Niners
had a perfect third quarter. But if I'm San Francisco,
I feel like Matt, We're down. We're down, like seven starters.
Brock Purty was a little off in the first half.
We didn't come off a bye. We came off an
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emotional Kansas City win. I thought it was a really
big win. When you can textualize the circumstances for San Francisco,
it doesn't It wasn't just another w your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, it's a little bit like a NASCAR race.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Sometimes you play in a game like that, you don't
want to lose the race early. You know, you don't
want to get in a crash early. And I thought
early on there were just some like crash and burn
situations for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I thought, I think you're right. I think Rock Purdy
played better than Dak.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
And that's a little bit surprising, I think to people
who tuned into that game last night.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, the what do you make of McCaffrey. The red
zone offense isn't the same. It's okay to admit McCaffrey's
the best. I mean the Walter Payton's the best running
back I ever saw. McCaffrey's in the short list of
the next I mean, maybe they just need him to
win big games.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
No, listen, it's kind of what I mean though, Colin, Like,
you come out with a game plan going into a
game against a good team, right, and that's.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
A good matchup.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
It's a heavyweight fight last night, and I think you
go into it like, hey, no big mistakes early. Okay,
let's run all of our different personnel groups, let's use
our shifts and motions. Let's see what their plan was,
and then we can kind of make a second half
adjustment and kind of go at it, and I think
like the.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Dallas Cowboys, it was sort of the opposite.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
You know, you had a first quarter interception that was
really really terrible by Dak, a third quarter interception that
was terrible, kind of had two like late fourth quarter
touchdown passes. But I would say, like the best thing
that I can say about Dak Prescott is I think
he's just oh mentally tough. But I just thought watching
the game last night, he didn't look good as a runner. Conversely,
Rock Perty looked very good as a runner. And then
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I just didn't think that Dak played as physically tough
as I've seen him play in the past. It looked
like he was feeling Bosa on the pressure. It was
like he wasn't trusting his protection and then he was
forcing balls that like, clearly you can for the amount
of money that he makes, and if you look at
the pie chart of where the money's going on that team,
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they need more from Dak Prescott. When I was playing,
I had a coach once say to me. He said
it all the time. He said, listen, with the.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Amount of money that you're making right now, you.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Need to be amazing.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Marinara Sauce over yesterday's pasta and some of the guys
that he's playing with by their contract there yesterday's pasta.
He needed to be that amazing Marinara Sauce to just
make it right, and last night he did not do that.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So I want.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I Usually when there's a Hail Mary, I feel bad
for the losing team I watched. I mean, it's just
gut it to watch a team that plays hard and loses. Yesterday,
I had no sympathy for Chicago. I thought the coaching
in the second half was awful. And I'm not somebody
that bangs on coaches a ton, but if somebody got
fired today, I'm like, yeah, that was that was embarrassing.
(11:14):
Off a bye, take me to the hail Mary. For instance,
Chicago had a spy on Jaden Daniels. He's not gonna
run fifty.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Ten foolish now? Is that? What did you take?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Yeah? That was wrong? Let me yeah, go sorry.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Let me just let me just say this, like I
heard the press conference afterwards and the head coach is.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Talking about we practiced this all the time. Let me
give you the reality of it.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
I don't know if you know this, but yes, you
practice this every single Saturday. You practice it in training camp,
but never I played eighteen years in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Never once, never, one time.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Did we ever practice it competitively. Typically, what you do
is you practice it. Okay, it's the offense's turn. Okay,
you're live, you drop back, you throw it up real high.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
You have spots.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
There's coaching too, and it's the offense's turn to go
catch the ball. And it's like, all right, let's do
it again. Now it's the defense's turn. And now there's
like a point man, there's a front guy, there's people
all boxing out. Think free throw of a basketball game.
That's exactly what it is. Now they drop the ball
on it clearly. But I don't know how you fix
it if you're not practicing it with intention or you know,
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maybe even practicing it with some level of competition where
you're competing for the ball, where you're filming it. Typically
you don't film a Saturday practice. So unless you're like
really dialed in and really watching it or learning from
other people's mistakes, you're not getting it fixed. The best
coach I ever had coaching and the hail Mary, was
probably Chuck Bogano.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Chuck Bogana would go back in the archives.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
He'd go back to the New England Patriots versus the
New York Giants, Hail Mary, that really could have gone
New England's way, and he would show, hey, if this
ball would have bounced a little bit different, this guy
wasn't boxing out. This guy wasn't boxing out. But typically
it's something that people gloss over. And I think, I
think the Chicago Bears got caught. That's something that they
glossed over. And it's going to cost him this year, you.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Know, Matt. And I think what makes it worse is
stuff that happened before that. So they had a moment
it was their best drive of the game, Chicago, and
they went they put a center in and I'm like, Chicago,
it's your best drive. You got a mobile quarterback, you
got good you got good running backs. What wouldn't you
if you're a quarterback, could you say, guys, this isn't
the time to call it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I actually understand why this happens. It reminded me a
little bit of like William the Refrigerator Perry. I know,
in Chicago, it's kind of cool, you know, like it's
cool unless you're Walter Payton.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Then it's not cool.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
But listen, these offensive coordinators are human, and they're seeing
all the love that Detroit got with Ben Johnson, all
these plays to the offensive lineman, and like, I think
that plays into it. I think like, oh, we got
this play, we practiced it, it looks good.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I don't hate it.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I actually don't think I would throw stones at the
at the Chicago game plan, I thought they did a
pretty good job. I thought the offense did enough right
to give themselves a chance to win that game. But
but that, to me, that play was not game ready.
It's almost like they rushed it. Like I would say
this like when my kids got got their driver's license
at sixteen, they were like, Hey, we want to go
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downtown Boston. I was like, nah, you're sticking around the neighborhood. Yeah,
we need a little more like time on task here.
And that just looked like a play that they put
in maybe a couple of weeks ago. They repped it
like two times, and uh, yeah, that was that was
That probably wasn't the right call for them, but I
think I understand why it got called.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Okay, let's go back to the hail Mary. There's a
player for the Bears, you know, jawing with fans at
Monday or Tuesday's meeting. How is that addressed by the staff?
Is it addressed? When you I mean it's I mean again,
he ended up moving over, but it's it's systematic of.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Yeah, it's a terrible situation. Listen, that stuff happens. I
I would say this though, there's enough blame to go around.
And how this gets handled on a Monday, Tell the
Truth Monday is what it's called.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
How this gets handled on it Tell the Truth Monday.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
In the film room, we'll determine a lot of how
this team comes together it doesn't come together, because what
should happen, Like I don't know if twenty nine is
the box out guy here, like he's probably not.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
So there's probably another defender.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
On that field that probably has to say, hold up, actually,
I'm actually we lost the game because I didn't box out.
And then there needs to be a coach that stands
up and says, you know what, I could have taken
the bullet at the podium, and I didn't. You know,
I actually deflected and I knew exactly what happened. And
that's on me because my job is to prepare you,
and I didn't prepare you, or I let it slide.
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And from here on out, I'm not letting anything slide. Okay,
I'm sick about this my entire coaching career. I'll be
sick about this. This isn't on you, this is on me.
But the next time I tell you to do something
and you don't do it, You're out, You're gone. You
won't have a job here, and I'll make sure you
don't have a job anywhere. Like that's the That's kind
of how those meetings typically go. But no, there's there's
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more than there's There's more than twenty nine to blame
on that play, right there, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So there've been, in my opinion, three great offensive lines
in a decade. That early Dak Prescott Cowboy O line
about five or six years with the Eagles before Jason
Kelsey retired and Detroit. Now give me the bag. Jared
Goff looks, it's like he's in a recliner. He's so comfortable.
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Give me the best offensive line you played with And
how it changes emotionally physically? How does it change because
Goff is his accuracy now is through the roof.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, well, listen, I think the best offensive line that
I played with would probably be five.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
In Seattle.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
We had the left side Hall of famers Walter Jones,
Steve Hutchinson, Robbie Tobek's one of the greatest leaders I've
ever been around as a center, very smart player, and
two very underrated players on the right side, Chris Gray
from Auburn, Sean Locklear from NC State. And we had
a great fullback that's a part of it, tight ends
that can block. We had Penn State wide receivers and
Joe Jarvisius and Bobby Ingram who knew how to block.
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Everybody's involved in the running game. Everybody but I would
say that it's a mindset, and Dan Campbell has instilled a.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Mindset in an identity.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Ben Johnson has the scheme, and then I do believe
in a roundabout way, Sean McVay deserves some credit because
under center play action Jared Goff is as good as
there is in the game. And the amount of audibling
redirecting the mic. You know, they've called three plays in
the huddle at once. It'll be we're running this alert
to that kills to this, and so like they're never
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really seemingly in a bad play, and it's a shift
and its a motion, it's a hard count, it's coming
out of the huddle really quick, it's staying in the
huddle a long time. It's changing personnel groups. So I
think it's all of those things combined. But that team
is right now and they are offensive on offense, and
a lot of times offenses play kind of defensive. Yeah,
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and that's not what the Detroit Lions do.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, it's almost like they're they're they're putting everything on
film for everybody to see. We're gonna make you stay
up for weeks. We're gonna have three different guys throwing.
A lot of teams want to hide their trick plays.
It feels like Detroit saying, now we're gonna run about
twenty two this year. You have to pick your so
it'll slow down defenses. That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, you're right, And you know what, some of the
plays that they're running aren't super complicated plays. You know,
one of their first touchdown passes yesterday was just on
the uh, the old John Gruden spider too. Why banana
without the banana, It's just the spider too. They were like,
we are so confident that this play is gonna work.
We're gonna motion the guy over who's gonna bluff and
then be in the flat that we're really not even
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gonna run anybody else on a route. Like half the time,
there's like one real receiver on the whole play because
they know that they know that they know that Golf's
gonna have them in the right play and it's going
to be wide open, and so it's just it's a mindset.
It's scheme and uh in Golf's the kind of like
the choreographer of the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Finally, Matt Hasselbeck, with the trade deadlines coming, Jay McK
and I talked about if I was Washington, I would
consider getting a corner. I think they're for real. I
think they're well coached. I think they're capable of winning
a playoff game. I don't think they're ready for Detroit yet.
There's steps to it. But I was thinking about the Jets.
They have two corners and they're struggling, and you have
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Aaron who you don't want to lose.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
They have.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I mean, the Jets are one of the only teams
in the league that could lose a corner and still
have a great corner. Would you consider as a GM
of the Jets making the move to get a draft
pick you may need to draft a quarterback. If Aaron
shuts it down, what would that do to a locker?
You've been on buyers and sellers at the trade deadline?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
What does it do? Matt?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, the Jets, come on, they started the moment they
let their head coach walk out the door, they were selling,
so that, yes, you're absolutely right. I think there's other teams,
like you mentioned Washington, they don't necessarily want to trade, right,
they don't want to go like I don't think they
feel like they're all the way there yet. But there's
gonna be teams like the Chiefs who are gonna be
in the market to trade. There's gonna be Detroit they're
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gonna make a run at it. And I think teams
like Washington they're gonna be like, no, we got no choice,
we got no choice. We gotta we gotta get in
the game. So yeah, I think that could definitely happen.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
With the Jets. I mean it's it's sort of like,
to me, that's a no brainer. They're a mess.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I mean, they look like they almost look like they're
being punished to play. I had a running back coach
wants Stump Mitchell who used to say, and not like
a pregame pep talk, it was awesome. He'd be like,
you know why these guys are coming out here to play.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Us this week?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Because the league is making them like they don't want
to come out here and play this game. And like
that's actually what I thought, Like, man, that's crazy. Can
you imagine being on a team like they didn't want
to play on Sunday? Like I sort of feel like
watching them, like literally it's like pulling teeth. Man.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
It's like every single play is like the play down.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
To two one yes, sign out or delay a game
or like get it off. It's like, I don't know
something's off right there. It just it's tough to watch. Yeah,
it's it's not good.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
By the way, I'll throw this stat at you. I
learned this this morning. It had been twelve years since
a team had no turnovers, held an opponent to under
two hundred and fifty yards, and lost teams were two
hundred and twenty and zero. If you don't turn it
over and hold him under two fifty and the Jets
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broke the streak, So to me, it's systemic, Like you
can blame Aaron, but I think you just pointed to something.
They are so slow out of the huddle, they are
so slow.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
At the line. Aaron's not providing juice. They just feel
like they're plodding through a game.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Well, yeah, and listen, he's not the same as he was.
I mean, mobility was one of his greatest strengths. I
mean that dude was amazing in the pocket. He's amazing
at a lot of things. But using his legs with his
eyes downfield, are using his legs to get a first down?
That was like vintage, you know, like that was that's gone.
I don't think when's the last time he even had
a rushing attempt.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, I don't think you had one yesterday. Like it's
that's part of that, That's part of it.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I also think they playing winning football as a team
and understanding like the team's problem is something that's underrated
and you know, like I don't know, they're on the
struggle bus right now.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Can they get back on can they get back on track?
A little bit?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Like yeah, but you're talking trade deadline, that's like the
perfect team.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
To me, Matt Hasselbeck as ohs love having you on.
Mondays Man, you make us smarter.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Appreciate it, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
See go all right, Matt.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
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Speaker 3 (23:19):
All right, Let's start with a game I felt great about,
and that's Eagles Bengals.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Remember I was like curious, what was going on with
this line.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
It was a great showdown between a matchup of twenty
nineteen Heisman finalists.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Jalen Hurts out duel.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Joe Burrow yesterday two hundred thirty six yards four total touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Saquon Barkley had one hundred on the ground.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Jalen Hurts afterwards spoke to the team's impressive win.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Today, was it's a great team win, a great showing
as a team. I think we're slowly finding it and
trying to piece things together. Ultimately, this comes down to
cadence and rhythm and how we play and then in
the end optimized. I'm all of the talent that we have.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Well, I think that was the beatdown.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think that's probably as well as Philadelphia has played
in a second half in over a year. Like so
that you may just say to yourself, well, you know,
it's just beating the Bengals, but this is a franchise.
I mean you could I mean the Cowboys were off
a bye. You know you can say, well, San Francisco,
San Francisco, you have to take care of these moments
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when you are the better team. You got a flex
and Philadelphia's got better players. I thought I thought going
into the weekend Cincinnati would win a you know, kind
of a close game. They stepped on the throat like
that was Philadelphia saying we got a lot better players.
And by the way Jalen Hurts, they've shrinked what they've
asked him to do sixteen completions, no turnovers. He had
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about ten rushes. They didn't ask him to do anything crazy.
The bottom line. Last three games they have looked at
Jalen Hurts and said, let's shrink the profile isle of
what we're asking you to do. He's running more at
feels like in the last couple of weeks, which, by
the way, this is his gift. He's not the best
pocket quarterback. He throws a very nice deep ball. The
Eagles have defined, Okay, this is what he does. Let's
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lean into what he does with his athletic ability and
his movement, and they've kind of created some clarity on
the offense.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And I thought it was really impressive. I mean really impressive.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Colin the last six times they had the ball, they
went touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, touchdown, field goal. I
mean the Bengals could not stop him. I'm surprised they
haven't fired their defensive coordinator yet. Like, that was a
bad performance and you got to start looking at this
Bengals team. I thought they would turn it around in
like the summer. They were one of my Super Bowl picks.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
They look anemic without t Higgins.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
When they have no difference like also were missing their
left tackle.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
My Lota and Hendrickson did nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Why did they move off Jesse Bays, Joe Mixon before
they paid Jamar Chase?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Why why are you doing that? Make it work?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I mean, Joe Mixon, you've never supported him on the
offense of line. When you when you have a great
running back, don't let him walk out the door. You
see how much mixing matters for seeds.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Over one hundred again yesterday. Yeah. And by the way,
Jesse Bates, they let him go. He's a stud dude.
He's a pro bowler for Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So it's like these better front offices, you know, like
just just the Kansas City just made a move to
get another pass rusher from the Patriots. Like these better
these better organizations, they take advantage of bad teams or
rebuilding teams. Atlanta has now got, you know, a great
Pro Bowl level safety and they went and got Matt
Judon from the Patriots. So they're not a great defensive team.
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But when you have these opportunities like Cincinnati, Joe Burrow
has struggled to stay healthy. Don't plan for the future.
Keep your good players now and give yourself a shot.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'll just say this.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Eagles seem to be on looking really good, right sneaky
game against Jacksonville and Doug Peterson this week. Remember Doug
Peterson probably not thrilled that he was run out of
town because after that they have Dallas and Washington.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Those are huge games in the NFC. I like the
Eagles this week, but it could be a tall order,
a little bit of a sandwich game. There you go.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Next up Green Bay Packers. This one hurt us, Colin.
We should have had the cover here.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well, they were going to go in for a touchdown,
but they fell. Running back takes the knee at like
the two yard line.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Oh so they don't get the ball. I mean it's
a smart play, but it killed us. Anyways, Jordan Love
got injured again this time. It's a growing Malik Willis
had to come in early in the second half, and
Malik will At delibered. He had a really nice fifty
one yard pass to Jayden Reid. Yeah, and then the
Packers get to walk off field goal. Here's Lafleur on
Jordan Love's status.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
Obviously high level of concern anytime guy's in there, and
he did it early in that first drive, and I
think you guys, I think everybody could see him struggling
to move around, and I just got to a point
where we didn't we didn't feel like and he didn't
feel like he could protect himself. So went with Maleik.
(27:55):
And can't say enough great things about Malik Willis the
job that he's able to do to go win there.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, Malik Willis has become one of the more dependable
backup quarterbacks in the NFL. Again, a great organization, Green
Bay looks at an organization that doesn't have their act
together coaching transition, they go get Malik Willis. He's a
highly highly effective backup quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I know, listen, you like Mike Rabel. Everybody likes Mike Rabel.
He's gonna probably get a coaching job in this next step.
He moved off Malik Willis. Like this guy can't play.
Malik Willis looks like he's probably a top five backup.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
In the league. Oh, top five in terms of juice.
He's got a ton of juice.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Like he got thrown in their cold yesterday on the
road in a game they should have blown out by
the way Packers two for six in the red zone.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I mean that that was the right side.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
They got to cover that game, yea, and Willis all
he did was deliver game winning drive at the end
of the game.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
This is another example if you don't think coaching matters.
I mean, you watch the Bears off a bye. The
Bears like first seven possessions, it was six punts off
of by. You're watching green Bay. Star quarterback goes out
in real time, put the backup in efficient quick playmates,
no mistakes the gap. This is why the Packers have
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helped dominate this division. It's not just far Ban Aaron Rodgers,
it's Mark Murphy good at Kunst la Fleur. I mean,
this is a really good operation. Anytime they get something
thrown at them, it's almost like they're prepared for it. Now.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Game of the week is Packers Lions this week now,
So when you want to guess the line, it's in
green Bay. However, the line is assuming no Jordan Love.
The Packers have a bye the following week, so it's like,
why would out Jordan Love the Lions at at green Bay.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Detroit minus five and a half. It's four and a half,
so at least it was this morning. Not a bad guess.
I would look Packers there Oh I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Not just Malik Willis against this Lions.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Well, no, Aiden Hutcheson, Come on, Mason Rudolph look good
for half outside of the turnovers, you look competent by
a quarter and a half, not a whole final story.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh this this got me ticked off.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yesterday Justin Herbert uh was was really impressive against the
Saints yesterday until this garbage play happened, like unbelievable. Nathan
Shepherd of the Saints has Justin Herbert by the leg
and then Herbert unloads the ball and this guy, Nathan
Sheppard like twisted Herbert's ankle to bring him down. It
was super dirty and the Charger center Bradley Boseman saw
(30:25):
it and just destroyed the guy.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Here's here's a bothman after the game. Probably one of
the dry year plays I've ever saying. You protect your quarterbacks,
You protect a quarterback, no matter what I think. A
f lapis O woman that was in that position that
done the exact same take. You know, I feel like
buying Bradley Boseman dinner.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
By the way, he was in Carolina. They couldn't get
rid of Hi fast enough. He just defended his quarterback
and apparently, according to the producer, Jim Harball gave Bothman
the game ball this right here, I mean, that's pretty
awesome from Jim Harball.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
High school wrestler there. Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Damn that was a hit.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But by the way, that is a dirty But if
I'm the NFL, I look at that, I would suspend
Shepherd for absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
We don't need that. We don't need that stand back.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
If I recall watching this game, both players got a penalty,
and that to me is it didn't that happen?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I think they gave both guys That is to me bothered.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Man, you can't give if I'm retaliating to protect my French,
protecting any player, why are you penalizing me? He would
have if that guy wasn't there. Bozeman wasn't there. He's
doing the turnbuckle tree in what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And I get it, Herbert Jack just unloaded the ball,
But you still don't need to be tweaking the leglick.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
That's how you got a serious injury.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
We don't we don't need quarterback going down come, especially
justin Herbert, especially who we by the way, chargers sneaky
looking good man they're just a lad mcconkee. Couple of
touchdowns yesterday.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
By the way, I got a good hardball story before.
You can't reveal it on air. I'll save it for
the break.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Uhmar No, what are you doing for the audience?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Now?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Maybe I'll put it on air a little bit later
later in the week. Okay, j Mack with the news.
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You know, I'm glad you put that play on the
air because a lot of people aren't watching all this
stuff go on. But it was I mean, that guy
that was an attack dog like Bradley Boseman was on
that stuff, and I so Carolina let him go.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
They picked him up.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
We just said, the Patriots just let go of one
of their outside linebacker Rushians. Nice player, one of the
better players, I think. So the Patriots, you know, Brett Veach.
Kansas City, they went and got d Hop and then
they went and got another pass rusher. So Kansas City,
that's a prime example. Kansas City's like, we're going for it.
It's like when Atlanta got Matt Judahan before the season
and Jesse Bates, like we got Kirk Cousins. Kirk's probably
(32:42):
got two years. We have this great offensive line, we
have young Beijon Robinson, Drake Lunt. Let's go all in
pass rusher safety. Kansas City's doing it in season. Atlanta
did it right before the season. But when you have
an older quarterback or you have a window, go for it.
And that's exactly what the Chiefs are doing.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Josh Uce is the name.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah he's good player, solid, Yeah, good player. So he'll
get to the quarterback, He'll I mean, it's like Chris
Jones on the interior is I'm surprised they're doing it
because they have a I thought they had a couple
of rush guys, the guy from Purdue.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
They like, yeah, you know, just trying to pick up picks. Hey,
real quick.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
The Matt Eberflus is at the podium right now, and
he just announced that cornerback Tyreek Stevenson was supposed to
box out Noah Brown on the hail Mary. Stevenson was
the guy number Tanda Jack and with the crowd, that's brutal.
Colin I desire, Oh my god, Well, like, how do
you face the locker room after that?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
What I mean, your job, you had one job on
that play, and it wasn't to talk trash.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I mean, listen, don't want to beat up on all athletes,
but you play forty five to fifty plays a game,
sometimes a lot of times if you're not a quarterback.
A running back will play twenty seven snaps all week.
We ask you to be focused for twenty seven snaps.
Just for twenty seven be into the moment.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Average Americans working five six days a week, sixty hours
a week, we're asking you to work for three hour
and by the way, your side of the ball, we're
asking you to be on the field for about twenty
minutes of actual playing time twenty minutes a week.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Just lock in, just lock in one. You don't care
that you make mistakes. I don't care if you make.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Everybody makes mistakes, everybody missing NBA guys, miss dunks, I
don't care.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I mean the hail Mary doesn't bother me. You can't
be doing that. Grow up. I don't care who young
you are. Stop the media is like pandering. Stop it.
You're asking this kid to be good for.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Thirty nine snaps on a Sunday. You know you can
jaw with somebody during a practice and get barked out.
You can't do it during games on the road when
you've been out.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
He had his back to the field, he wasn't even looking.
The ball snapped and he's still pointing at guy's in
flexing like it. I mean, this is hopefully the kid bounces.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Back from this. You know, I've had some flop. I'm
not ringing against him going forward. It's like, let's not
pander here.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's but it's easy for him to get sideways and
people look at him like come on, dude, I mean
you anywhere he goes this week at Chicago, like this
guy's gotta be home down, he's gonna get yelled at.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I'd stay home and watch game film or Netflix. I
wouldn't go out.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
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Speaker 3 (35:23):
What a great start for Freddy Freeman and the Dodgers
as they've raced out to it to zero lead. Tonight
from the Yankee Stadium, It's a pivotal Game three as
Judge and the Yankees look to get back in the series.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Covich begins at seven pm Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Nice stadium business, pretty as dollar for stadium game and
that just being honest. So the Jets lose to the
Patriots yesterday, it so so much movement with this franchise.
Season's over. I think they should be sellers at the
trade deadline. Move off one of the corners, maybe not
Sauce Gardner, move off the other corner. Get some picks.
You got to start creating picks so you can draft
(36:00):
another quarterback. Because Aaron may just call it a career.
They're not playing well. He's forty, he doesn't want motion.
He's kind of a rigid guy, stuck in the pocket,
stuck in his way. It's not pretty.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
And here's Jeff Ulbrich on the loss to the lowly Patriots.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Every single human being out there has got to be better.
Aaron's got to be better, Coach has got to be better.
All of us got to be better. This is a
moment of darkness, and we understand that the outside world
is going to get really loud right now. But the
only thing I know in life is that when it
gets dark and it gets hard, that you work.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, I think I think a bigger issue here.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Forget all the darkness stuff is that if you start
looking around the league, there's only about I mean there's
a couple of pocket quarterbacks like Jared Goff who are excelling.
But Jared Goff has the best offensive line in football
and a stacked roster, and Jared's in his athletic prime.
Aaron's a pocket quarterback and is way out of his
athletic prime. And Matt Hasselbeck, not prone to criticizing quarterbacks,
(36:57):
stepped up about a half hour ago and said, just
doesn't look the same with Ar.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
He's not the same as he was. I mean, mobility
was one of his greatest strengths. I mean that dude
was amazing in the pocket. He's amazing a lot of things,
but using his legs with his eyes downfield, or using
his legs to get a first down, that was like vintage,
you know, like that was, but that that's gone. I
don't think when's the last time he even had a
rushing attempt. I don't think he had one yesterday. Like
(37:24):
it's that's part of that. That's part of it. I
also think they playing winning football as a team and
understanding like the team's problem is something that's underrated, and uh,
you know, like I don't know, they're they're on the
struggle bus right now.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, think about this. J Mack, you're from you met
your wife in New York. Think about right now. Matt's extinguished.
Yankees down. Oh two Giants will lose tonight to the Steelers.
The Jets lost yesterday, the Knicks got housed by the Celtics.
I mean, it's New York has gone through a decade
(37:58):
of disappointment. I mean, it's honestly, I'm sitting there watching
this yesterday. I'm like, I mean, I guess it's great
to be a New York radio host now because you
can complain and it's funny. And the callers, I mean,
here in Los Angeles, it's like, we're sitting here. I
have a friend and I'm like, you, I understand. I
tell them all the time. You know, lucky you are
to live in a cities from here. I'm like, even
(38:19):
the Chargers hired the right coach. I mean, the Rams
have a great coaching quarterback, the Chargers do. USC is struggling,
but they'll get it. Lincoln Riley's one of the top
ten coaches in college football. The Dodgers are amazing. The
Lakers playing well. The Clippers have a new arena. It's
amazing to watch what has happened to LA over the
last decade. And California teams in general are even. The
(38:42):
Padres now spend like the Red Sox did fifteen years ago.
New York teams are a mess.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Did you see someone compiled it?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
But starting with the Rams win on Thursday and the
Dodgers two wins usc one on Friday.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
The Clippers have won two in a row, the Lakers
have one.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Th Like LA's winning every everything for the last five days,
every single game, they haven't lost anything.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
It's like unbelievable. The strets are on right now, and
then New York can't get out of its way.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Well, I mean, I listen, It's an entertainment capital. The
weather's Mediterranean. There's a lot of things. The economy is big,
so I mean there's a lot of reasons. Pro athletes
like it and people are attracted to it. But I
have said this before. One of the reasons LA flourishes
and New York doesn't we have better owners. The Dodgers
owners are unbelievable. I mean, Steve Ballmer's the richest NBA owner.
(39:27):
We have really good owners, and that's it. All starts upstairs.
I mean, you're fire and Robert Sla in a game
the next week, had you beaten Buffalo, you were in
first place.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I mean it's just not good owners, really bad front offices.
Over under one Jets player traded this week.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I mean, if I'm running the Jets up, of course
I'm moving off one of my corners. You're not even
an elite defense. You're not playing for anything. Go, you know,
forget sauce. You could get a third round pick. You
need picks. You gotta rebuild this mess. You gotta go
get a quarterback, all right. Mark Sanchez Hour three on
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