June 27, 2024 • 30 mins
2-time Super Bowl champion Marquez Valdes-Scantling joins the show to talk about joining the Bills and shares some surprising news about Aaron Rodgers
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Back here on the Herd, we have a great guest
in studio, first time in studio.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
He is gone from Aaron Rodgers to Patrick Mahomes and
now he's in Buffalo with Josh Allen. What a charm life.
Marquez Valdez scandling in the building.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
How are you, my man?
Speaker 5 (00:40):
I'm good, man, I'm good. I'm good. I'm happy to
be here.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Excellent.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Now I just learned, you know, we had all these
battery of questions ready for him. Then I start talking
to him during the commercial break and I find out
he was hanging out with Aaron Rodgers yesterday out here
in La So obviously this is breaking news for much
of it at the NFL audience, tell us about it.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, me and me
and Aaron been a great friends since I've been in
Green Bay. I hit him up till I was coming
out to LA and so let's let's run some routes.
So we got it in man went out to some
some high school and Ransom routes together. So it was good.
It was good.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, So all the New York media can stand down
and we're not just just back from Egypt.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It's not a secret anymore. And he's hanging out with
m VS. I like the earring by the way, it's MVS.
He's got his own line of stuff obviously because he's
a star.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Where do you want to start here?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I mean, you go from Rogers to Mahomes and now
to Josh Allen, Like that is as good as it gets.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Yeah, man, I'm I'm grateful. You know. When I when
I came out of college, I was like, man, I
don't want to go anywhere cold, and it ended up
in Green Bay. But I think that was the biggest
blessing that I had. You know, obviously my four years
there were great. I got to learn from, you know,
one of the best receivers to ever play this game,
in DeVante Adams, and then being able to learn under
guys like Randall Cobb. It was huge and obviously playing
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with Aaron Man you know, you know that those are
one of those situation that you know, you dream of
as a kid. You know, I grew up watching these
guys play, you know, on Sunday night football and you know,
walk into the locker room and my first day, I
see Aaron Cobb and Davante you know, sitting at the
table and Aaron calls me over, you know and called
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me by my name.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
So that was one of those moments that I'll never forget,
and told me how much he you know, admired my
play and so that can help his team. You know.
So those are probably the moment that he doesn't even remember,
but you know, those one of the things that just
will stick with me forever.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
So you had a great run obviously with the Packers.
Then you go to the Chiefs and it's like, oh,
is what a super Bowl? They tell me how first
of all, Rogers and Mahomes are different off the field
and then in the huddle.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yeah, I mean I think, you know, there are two
different types of leaders. You know, pass a lot more vocal,
you know, rally the team. You know, Aaron's more, you know,
writing your face, you know, talk to you writing your face,
opposed to the whole team. He goes to each individual
and Pat addresses the whole team. But they're they're both great
at what they do. You know, they lead in different ways.
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They're both super competitive. I think that's, you know, one
of those things that between those two guys. You know,
that's the biggest similarity into them. You know, obviously the
arm talent and you know what they can do off
schedule and the throat that they can make, but just
the competitiveness that they both have. You know, I was
grateful to have those two guys as my first two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I'm sure the numbers say one thing for deep ball accuracy,
but for your money, Rogers or Mahomes, who was the
better deep ball thrower for you, man?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I don't know. I think, you know, I think they
both had different skill sets when it came to it.
You know, obviously I got Aaron and year seventeen I
had in year six, you know, so you know, obviously
you know, Pat had the stronger arm, you know, when
it came to it, But you know, Aaron was just
so pinpoint with everything that he did. You know, so
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I think that the skill sets were just so different.
But those two guys, man, it was it was great
to be a part of that.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Walk me through the Super Bowl against the Niners. I
had forty nine ers winning. If forty nineers were in
total control, it felt like to me at least. But
I'm just curious what they tell me about halftime because
it seemed like you guys were kind of in trouble,
especially third quarter. Mahomes throws the pick and it's like, oh,
here we go. But at halftime, was there any concern
at all?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Or is it we've been here?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Nah? Man? I think you know, the great teams that
you know, battle through adversity all year. It was it
was no flinch out of us. You know. I knew that,
you know, and we knew that we deserve to be there.
We knew that we just had to settle down and
just play our game of football. And you know, obviously
we had been through ups and downs all year and
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you know, it was no different than the Super Bowl,
and so that kind of prepared us, you know, for
for those moments and to never ever have to flinch.
Coach Reid does a great job just preparing guys for
all the situations and never be blindsided by the moment.
And so I'm forever grateful that I had a coach
like that to kind of prepare the team in that manner.
And you know, it showed in the Super Bowl, showed
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the last two Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You caught a touchdown pass obviously, just an incredible comeback
and victory for the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I don't know, take me through like the fourth quarter
and overtime.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Man, it was a It was a crazy thing, man,
because obviously, you know, we have to go down to
tie that game in the last quarter right before right
before it ends, and then to go and watching them
get the ball first, and you know they decided to say, hey,
we'll take it first and leave us to figure it
out after. And then you know, we just went and
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drove that field and won the game. I was, you know,
part of a couple of those calls to you know,
get us some first downs and you know, making some
plays to help us get in that position. So it
was it was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Man.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well, is that would you say, to date highlight of
your career? Uh?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Nah, Man, you know, obviously, I think you know, scoring
the Super Bowl a lot of guys can't say that
they did that. Yeah, but you know, there's been monumental moments,
you know, part of our career, you know, even the struggles,
you know, even the drop versus Philly in the season.
I think that was, you know, a big moment for
me just to say, hey man, you can still do this,
you know, and and shake back. You know. So I think,
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you know, that was that was a big moment for me,
just to say, hey man, you know people are still
going to count on you.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh so let's go back to that to drop. If
memory serves, it was like over right around like the was.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
It in the end zone?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah, right, two yard line or something like that. You know,
it was a third down, a couple of seconds left
in the game. It was raining, you know, we got
you know, was supposed to not rain that the whole
day and we ended up getting rained the entire game,
you know. And then you know, obviously that was a
rematch from the Super Bowl the year before, and you know,
they kind of me to go make that play and
I didn't, but you know I was able to kind
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of battle through that, man, and get through you know,
those those sorrows and keep going. Man, you know I've
never waivered you. My faith always stayed high. You know,
I'll leave to myself. My confidence never kind of dropped down.
I know I can go make a play. And then
throughout the throughout the rest of the season, I just
kept making those plays when they needed me.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I gotta say, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You brought that up.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
There's some people who don't want to talk about their lows.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You you brought that up.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I wasn't gonna ask about it.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, No, it's cool, man. It's all a part of
my story. Man. You know, I've never run from it.
You know it made me know who I am today.
You know, I batted through.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
We There's some athletes these days have the rabbit ears, like,
for instance, Kevin Durant and the NBA, Like you'll say
something about him online, he'll come and find you in
d and get all of it.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
In the NFL a little less so, but there's some
of that. There's some punching back.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
How are you handling social media after like a game
like the Eagles game?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Met It don't bother me, man. I'm from the south
side of Saint Petersburg, Florida. Man, I've seen way worse
things in real life. You know, so anybody behind behind
a camera or you know, behind their phone to say
whatever they got to say, you know, to make themselves
feel better from their mom's basement or you know the
you know, their their work office Internet. It's cool man,
you know. I love the passion that y'all you know,
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fans have, but you know we are still people, you know,
But end of the day, man, it don't bother me.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Have you had any teammates who you've seen struggle with it?
I'm listen.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I've worked with people who they can't handle it when
people are bombarding them?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yes, what do you say to them?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
You know, it's we know what we do in real life.
You know, even know the work that we put in
in real life. You know in this building, you know
where that building is, you know where there's Screen Bay,
Kansas City, Buffalo. You know the adversity that you had
to battle to get to where you are today. None
of those fans will never understand that, you know. So
those are the things that you kind of just got
to remember, you know, and these people don't know. You
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know what you really went through. You know how to
get where you are now.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
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Speaker 3 (08:44):
I'll ask about the Buffalo bills, and again, like I
got to be careful how I frame this because you know,
earlier we were talking about Brandon Ayuk and some of
the stuff he's doing on social media. As you know,
I know people don't like the word diva, but like
Stefan Diggs has went through a lot in Buffalo and
they kind of moved on from him, and now they
bring you in and you guys aren't have the same receiver.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
But it's almost like a breath of fresh air. Look
look at how calm.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You are bringing up big drops Like that's pretty cool that,
I guess. How how do you walk into a locker
room knowing you're kind of replaced? I know Gabe Davis
is going too, but like you're now one of the guys.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
It's I never look at it like that, man, because
I went through the same thing when I went to
Kansas City and Tyreek Hill left. That's right, you know,
So I just come in there and be myself, you know,
whatever that version of myself is that's needed for the
team to help them win. You know that that's what
That's what it is. I've never really tried to say,
oh yeah, I want to come in and replace a guy.
You know. I think one of the best things that
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I ever learned from DeVante was just come in and
be yourself. You know, don't try to come in and
emulate me. Don't try to come in and emulate Cob.
You know, laf Is Gerald my favorite receiver growing up.
Don't try to be that guy. Just just be yourself.
That's what got you here. And so just going in
and and being myself is the goal. Man. It's never
about you know, what anybody else did before me or
after me, and manas it is all about who I
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am to be the best version of myself.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It wasn't on the question list, but it's Shaws Gardner
the best cornerback in the NFL, because you're gonna be
going upgains him twice a season.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
No, man, I think I think Snead is the best
corner really, man, just being you know, with him for
two years and just watching him play, man, I think
that he just has a very unique skill set. You
know that a lot of guys just just don't.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Have the physical nature, yeah, man, and just.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
His his intelligence. You know, I'm excited to see what
he does, you know, in Tennessee. But I think I
think he's one of the best corners in the league. Man.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Last last question is you played the Dolphins in the
coldest game I think in like the NFL playoff history.
Go ahead, tell yeah one of those guys going out
shirtless before the.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Game or no.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Nah, Man. You know, I'm a Florida boy, so I'm
trying to stay inside as long as i can until
let's kick off time. But you know, it's it was
definitely inhumane for us to be out there. Man. It was.
It was cold, but you know, obviously it was it
was cold for them too. You know, we lived in
it in Kansas City, so we had a bit of
advantage there. But yeah, it was it was brutal, but
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you know, we we got it over quick, and we
went on a nice little Ryan to you know, go
on the road and beat Buffalo and then go and
beat the Ravens, you know, then ultimately win another Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Amazing playoff front. Congrats Mark west Veldi scaling great stuff.
Let's go to Alex Curry with the News.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Mark was I just have to say, what a rat
outlook on life that you have, Like, thank you for
sharing that perspective, because we don't we don't get that
a lot from athletes, and to just feel that and
see that that you are also motivated by the lows,
like that's that's great. Thank you for sharing.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Of course, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Okay, Now let's get to the NFC East. The Commanders
have a whole new regime in plays with a new ownership,
new head coach and Dan Quinn, and a franchise quarterback
in Jaden Daniels. Now, the rookie has gotten a lot
of praise coming out of camp, and the latest come
from another newcomer and running back Austin Eckler.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
He's an absolute stud out there slinging it. I've loved
his leadership that he's shown early on. You know, he's
texting me about routes. He's calling me out in practice
a this is what we need to do on this
or what did you see on this choice route? And
so he's got all of the right stuff that I'd
love to see from a quarterback that he's been bringing
out in the first couple couple of weeks that I've
met him, and so I'm looking forward to his growth.
And we have a lot of veterans, you know, like
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you mentioned that we've brought in to help set the culture.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
I mean, I hope this is a turning point for Washington,
But this is what you want to hear, right like
from a veteran in the league. But again, you're coming
to a new team with new ownership, a new coach,
a new GM playing under a new offensive coordinator in
Cliff Kingsbury. So like there's a lot of there's a
lot of new here, and you just hope that a
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guy like Jaden Daniels, who's Heisman Trophy winner, can come
in and they can figure something out right away, because
you're also not you're not in a necessarily easy in
the NFC East. Yes, the Dallas there's some questions what's
going to happen with Dak and CD and Micah Parsons Eagles.
Can they bounce back after kind of falling off of
a cliff at the end of last season, Giants losing
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Saquon Barkley, So there is an opportunity to kind of
do something, But like, is it all going to come
together with so much new?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It almost feels like they should have gone after Montquez, Valdez,
Scandling right to add to the receiver group. I mean
what I mean geez. Yeah, I'm not as bullish on Washington.
Cowherd loves them. Yeah, it sounds like you kind of
are all in on Daniels.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
I'm not all in, but there's hope. Like it feels
like there's hope and everything that you've heard about Jaden
Daniels from former teammates or just coaches that have played
from him is just like how great and good and
ready he is. It's just you never know. This is
something that like again, new coach, new GM, new system,
new offensive coordinator, new quarterback. It's so much new. We
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don't really have anything to base it off of right now.
So it's going to be interesting. What are your expectations
for six or seven wins? Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I don't know if he's the guy. I don't whoa,
We'll see. It's early.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
It's all right, Well, let's move to a team that
does know that they have the guy. The Jaguars had
a lot of promise heading into last season starting eight
and three and looking like one of the teams to
beat in the AFC, but their season ended with a
one and fi finish that cost them the division title
and a playoff spot, which their owner called an organizational failure.
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Which is interesting to come out right after you give
your quarterback the biggest contract in NFL history, but then
say the end of the season going one in five
was an organizational failure.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I don't know, and Lawrence was kind of dinged up.
He was not one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
This is true, but at some point somebody's gotta Usually
there's got to be a fall guy when you collapse
like that, especially after making the playoffs the year before.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Trevor Lawrence and his wife
just recently, I think it was today, announced that they're
pregnant with their first child. So now he's got a
little extra to play for, not only trying to bounce
back from the end of last season, prove and now
go out and earn and deserve this biggest contract in
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NFL history. And then not even a baby on the way.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Did they say how many weeks or months they are
or no?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Only I said, yeah, it looked. It looked fairly it
was on Instagram, looked fairly new.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
So let's just say three months in, Alex.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Yeah, they're going to have help. They're gonna have a
night nurse, They're gonna have no.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, no, I'm talking about like if there's a big
week seventeen game and his wife goes into labor Saturday
night before before week seventeen, Like, is Trevor Lawrence missing
the game?
Speaker 6 (15:49):
I don't think you can. Of course you can. Jason
Kelsey's wife Kylie was like at the Super Bowl, like
possibly going into labor there, and they had a full
plan in place with the doctor traveling he went at
all times. No, you can't. You can't miss it if
you're in the game in that moment, day before, day after. Yeah,
it's tough.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
No, no, wait a minute, wait, Alex.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
If his wife's you want to be in the room
with the wife, who cares about week seventeen. Now it's
obviously not great for the Jags. Yeah, but you got
to be there with the wife. There's you only come on,
he's very religious.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, I'll go ahead. I'm on record.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I predict Lawrence will skip a game if his wife's
giving birth on that Sunday.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Now we're worth seven.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
If it's a game that like determines if you get
into the postseason, so.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
What, it's one game he's gonna play in two hundred
in his career.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
But if it's a game like on the line determined,
I don't know. Again, Like this is this is a
personal Prengradle choice. Yeah, congratulations, this is awesome. But yeah,
a lot to prove and a lot to play for. Yeah,
it's gonna be interesting. Let's switch gears to Major League Baseball,
where Shoheyo Tani has been absolutely crushing the baseball and
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on the hunt for the league's first triple crown since
Miguel Cabrera and twenty twelve, and with All Star Weekend
coming up next month, show Hey told reporters yesterday that
although he hasn't been approached about it, he wants to
take part in the Home Run Derby, but also mentioned
his ongoing recovery from Tommy John surgery might be a
potential hold up. Now, this would be great for the
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Home Run Derby course, but shoe Atani's gonna be at
the All Star Game anyway. He's going to be there
as a DH and I know we haven't seen We
don't always see the top players participating in the home
run derby. Take his former teammate Mike Trout had been
asked numerous times when he was the best player in
the game always declined. Now, there is this notion that
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a lot of players feel like if they are in
the home run derby it ruins their swing towards the
second half of the season because you're going up there. Yes,
it's kind of like batting practice, but in batting practice
you're hitting a ground ball, hitting a fly ball, then
hitting a home run. This is like one hundred percent
power trying to hit it out of the ballpark every
single time for however many rounds you make it through.
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And so with sho Heo Tani, he is recovering from
his elbow surgery and he's still in the build up
recovery process. So if there is anything that could affect that,
I don't think he would do it, but show hey,
Otani will know what's best for his body. This is
what he's done his entire career in Major League Baseball
to become a two time unanimous AL MVP as a
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two way player. He knows his body. If it's not
going to be the best situation for him and his
team to continue winning and get to the postseason and
win a World series. That is his ultimate goal. He's
not gonna do it. He's gonna listen to his body.
But also like this could be really fun, like seeing
seeing Sho heo Tani just hit dinger after dinger.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
That would be awesome, Well said, I think I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Prob sit it out, don't force it, you know, bigger
fish to fry.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, Alex Curry with the news.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd line.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
New right is tonight must win for USA against Panama.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Alexi Lawalas will tell us next.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
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Speaker 5 (19:12):
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Speaker 3 (19:53):
Anytime I've hosted or I will be hosting this summer,
I have requested we got to bring this guy in.
He's so good on SoC He's polarizing, he fires people up.
Alexi i Lawless, the legendary USA soccer defender. I would say,
the best soccer defender that we've ever had in this country.
I don't know if you would say that, but.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
No, I would. I would concur absolutely. I mean, I
mean it's pretty obvious. Two of my favorite people here.
This is awesome. What a way to start a wonderful
day of celebrating the greatest country in the world, America,
especially through the eyes of soccer US versus Panama today
in the Copa America. As we continue on, So bring
it on on and off the field of celebration of America.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yes, I love the fire. He is excited and listen,
this is a must win game tonight. That's not saying
too much. Is must win Alexis.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
I mean so for those that maybe haven't been following,
Cope America is happening this summer. This is a huge tournament.
So last time this US team is going to be
in a tournament where they are going to face opposition
that is better than them before the twenty six World
Cup obviously, so this is kind of a prelude. This
US team right now came out in the group stage,
won their first game against Bolivia. But let's be honest,
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Bolivia is not good team. Now It's up a notch
here today when we play against Panama, and yes, it's
a must win game in that if they win it,
for all intentsive purposes, they go on. And they also
don't want to leave it late to the third game
because it's up a whole nother notch when it comes
to Uruguay, which is a very very good team, and
if you have to get points, if you have to
win against Uruguay, that could be problematic. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Now, I don't want to go overboard and get too
much into Burholter. Sure, but some of the stuff critical
against Bolivia. I saw you were critical and obviously doing
a great job on your podcast.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I'm just curious. The lineup looks good. Probably no changes tonight, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
Don't think that. I mean, you won two zero, you
probably could have won five zero against Poland, Poland against Bolivia,
and I don't think that there's going to be a
lot of changes, and I don't think that there should.
So one of the big questions is up top for
the striker position, and it is just this this vacancy
and nobody has grabbed hold of it with both hands.
Flow Baaligan scored in the first game. That's what you want.
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Didn't have to have a great game, but scored. That's
the most important thing. So I think you roll that
back and continue on Christian Polisitic Captain America. I think
he's playing some of his best soccer right now. I
think he's matured. I think there's a grit that has
arisen in his game, which I think is good, and
also kind of just a fearlessness in terms of taking
players on. He scored early on, you can see here
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a cornerkick here. But more importantly, I don't think that
he I think he's matured. I guess I'm using a
lot of words to say that this is a player
that is matured and potentially could become what a lot
of people when he first burst on the seam Seene
wanted him to become, was this iconic type of American
player and potentially the best player in American history. And
he's become a leader on and off the field, a
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soft spoken leader, but he's also doing a lot of
the leadership in terms of what he's doing on the field.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Now you use the word grit for Pulisic, I do wonder.
So some of our staffers in the morning meeting, we're
like this, this team, I don't want to use the
word soft, but they don't have that gritty underdog vibe
that they used to have where they were the plucky
upstart who's gonna fight.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Hard and battle. I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I don't know where I'm with this play. Is there
a little softening to the US approach?
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Okay, so, first off, we have played the underdog role
to a team.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It suits us.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
Let's to be honest, It's easier at times when you
often have nothing to lose, and over the decades, we
have used that to our advantage. We all know that
going from the underdog to the favorite, or making that transition,
even though it's only this much space, it's oftentimes the
most difficult thing to do. What I am concerned and
I think what you're hitting on here is this pendulum
that has swung. And yes, we were gritty, and we
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were in a sense raw I don't know if that's
the right word, but raw in the way we went
about doing things. But it was you know, it was practical,
and it was pragmatic in the way that we played
for a long time, and it was dare I say American,
and that's not a pejorative. That is a good thing.
So as the pendulum has swung, we have tried to
become more evolved and progressive and romantic in the way
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that we play. I just hope that we don't know,
leave all of that behind. And I think that there's
a good type of balance that we can have where
we can take the great stuff from the past, but
also some of the talent that we have and yes,
at times become more expansive, and yes, at times have
more of the ball, and yes, at times, you know,
be more proactive and putting pressure on the other team
without losing that unique americanness, if that's even a word
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that has gotten us where we are, and I do
think is a good thing to lean into going forward.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Before we get to the Euros. I got to ask
Brazil laid a massive egg this week. It kind of
could show you anything can happen in Copa. So I'm
gonna put you on the spot at score prediction USA Panama.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Oh yeah, I think we beat Panama. I think we
beat them comfortably. There is you know, because this is
a team that we face in our region, which is
CONCA CAF. Familiarity breeds contempt, yes, but familiarity also bring
breeds familiarity. And so I think this Panama team will
recognize that they are not as good at the US,
but they will not fear us. And I think that
there is a level of confidence that comes from having
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seen exactly what we are. There are no surprises when
it comes to the US relative to Panama.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
And not to go back to last year's Gold Cup
game last July, I believe we lost in PKS. But
it was not to be a pejorative, but it was
kind of our beacham fair to say so we.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Don't need to take anything away from that.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
No, no, And I think there's a lot of players
that didn't play in that game in that tournament that
are licking their chops saying, all right, let's fix this
right now.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And let's also be honest.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
This is Copa America. And for those that maybe don't
understand Copa America, there's the World Cup and then there's
all the regions around the world that they have their
own kind of World Cups.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Commono Bowl is a South.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
American region, all right, So this is the Championship of
South America that it's actually being hosted in the United
States with guests like the United States, like Panama making
up a bigger tournament. So by the end of this tournament,
if the US were to win this tournament, they would
be crowned Champions of South America.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
That would be awesome, Yes, yes, very awesome. All right,
and let's get to the Euros. You had one of
the best takes I've seen. I'm on some text thread
with soccer dads and everybody saw is Portugal better without Ronaldo?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
And that's a spice.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I think I might have even commented to you online
like that's an awesome because that's what we do, takes.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
But there's some truth to that, right because they've got
a great young foundation and Ronaldo. I'll let you say no.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
But I think you know, you guys talk about soccer,
soccer and sports every single day, and we all know
that the dynamic within a locker room, the dynamic between
coaches and players, especially you know, big name players, famous players,
iconic players. Sometimes it's you know, Roberta Martinez is the
coach of this Portugal team and he's got Christiano Ronaldo
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here and he brought him. When he took over, nobody
would have been grutched and saying, you know what, it's over.
It's you know, you're a legend right off into the sunset,
but we're going in a different direction. But he said, no,
we are going to have you. Not only are we
going to have you, but we're going to start you
on a consistent basis. And so every manager, every coach
out there will tell you that they are you know,
they're they're your priest and then you're psychologist, you know,
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and they are at times your parents. And so I'm
fascinated by what the dynamic is between this iconic player
who wants to play every single game, who still feels
that he is the best and in many instances does
incredible things. But are there players around that are saying, God,
we gotta keep going. We have to say how much
we love him and if he was not necessarily on
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the field, we could be so much better as a
group and addition by substract subtraction. But there's no way
they can possibly say that in public because this is
Chris Giano Ronaldo. And so I'll be looking forward to
seeing what Portugal looks like in the future because it's
not going to happen this tournament with a Christiano Ronalds
Ronaldo less Portugal team.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
It's a great pub talking to him. Sure I didn't
say bars at pub. Speaking of pubs, England has not
looked amazing. I was talking with Storage about this and like,
I don't know what's your level of concern with that
national team.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
So first off, thank you England because you provide more
content than anybody out there. You know, I came on
air with the Cope America and I said something and
I've said many times before, and people lost there, you
know what, especially around the world, when I compared them
to the Dallas Cowboy, Yes, and that as many people
love them as hate them, but everybody tunes in and
wants to see and there's schadenfreud and all the stuff
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that surrounds them, and even internally when it comes to
England and they're press, they're just constantly critical of what's
going on. And I think that it's warranted right now
because I don't think that this team believes that they
are the elites that they that they make them out
to be. Doesn't mean that they can't win right now,
but there's a lot of concerns that again, this is
a this is a wonderful group of talented individuals, but
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not necessarily a good team.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
So your favorite here with Assumi Spain. They've looked incredible.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
Germany, Germany the host nation. While it hasn't been a
couple of good cycles for them Germany hosting, they rise
to the occasion. Everybody you know jumps on board. In
Germany right now, the crowds are are incredible, So you
know that would be Germany and Spain right now are
at the top of my list. There we're seeing teams
like Turkey eight, by the way, which is known as
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Turkey Turkey at which is doing some crazy amazing things
going forward Austria, so there can be some dark horses.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
So Georgia is a total shocker. Yeah, I knew nothing
about their their program. Is there a Georgia in Copa America?
Speaker 9 (29:15):
Potentially Labino Tinto, which are Venezuela. They have already secured
passage into the knockout rounds and they are sitting pretty
actually in qualifying for twenty twenty six in fourth place.
This is a team that's never qualified for the World Cup.
So I think a lot of people are looking at
them as not just an interesting story and a possibly
successful story for this summer in Copa America, but also
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going forward into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
All right, Alexi Lala is great stuff. Hey listen man,
you're fired up. I love it.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Fired up, big day for America on and off the
soccer field.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Right, what could you lock debate going on?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
You're talking about the NBA draft?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, of course, bringing on.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Alexi Lala has always fired up the crowd.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And listen man, you're ninety fourteen one of my favorite
sports teams of all time.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Oh, I mean.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Watching the World Cup, I mean listen, man, that was
a seminal moment in this country for soccer.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
We've had, we had a good time, you know, I'm I.
It warms the cockles of my redheaded American heart to
see how far we have come on and off to
soccer field. So onward and upward as we get into
this summer and continue on into twenty twenty six, because
the Men's World Cup is coming at twenty twenty six
and it is going to be awesome.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Can't wait. Great stuff, Alexi Lales.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Obviously, tune in USA Panama on Fox tonight for Jason
Alexi Alex have a great night in sports.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Talk to you tomorrow.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Back here on the Herd, we have a great guest
in studio, first time in studio.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
He is gone from Aaron Rodgers to Patrick Mahomes and
now he's in Buffalo with Josh Allen. What a charm life.
Marquez Valdez scandling in the building.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
How are you, my man?
Speaker 5 (00:40):
I'm good, man, I'm good. I'm good. I'm happy to
be here.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Excellent.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Now I just learned, you know, we had all these
battery of questions ready for him. Then I start talking
to him during the commercial break and I find out
he was hanging out with Aaron Rodgers yesterday out here
in La So obviously this is breaking news for much
of it at the NFL audience, tell us about it.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, me and me
and Aaron been a great friends since I've been in
Green Bay. I hit him up till I was coming
out to LA and so let's let's run some routes.
So we got it in man went out to some
some high school and Ransom routes together. So it was good.
It was good.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, So all the New York media can stand down
and we're not just just back from Egypt.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It's not a secret anymore. And he's hanging out with
m VS. I like the earring by the way, it's MVS.
He's got his own line of stuff obviously because he's
a star.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Where do you want to start here?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I mean, you go from Rogers to Mahomes and now
to Josh Allen, Like that is as good as it gets.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Yeah, man, I'm I'm grateful. You know. When I when
I came out of college, I was like, man, I
don't want to go anywhere cold, and it ended up
in Green Bay. But I think that was the biggest
blessing that I had. You know, obviously my four years
there were great. I got to learn from, you know,
one of the best receivers to ever play this game,
in DeVante Adams, and then being able to learn under
guys like Randall Cobb. It was huge and obviously playing
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with Aaron Man you know, you know that those are
one of those situation that you know, you dream of
as a kid. You know, I grew up watching these
guys play, you know, on Sunday night football and you know,
walk into the locker room and my first day, I
see Aaron Cobb and Davante you know, sitting at the
table and Aaron calls me over, you know and called
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me by my name.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
So that was one of those moments that I'll never forget,
and told me how much he you know, admired my
play and so that can help his team. You know.
So those are probably the moment that he doesn't even remember,
but you know, those one of the things that just
will stick with me forever.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
So you had a great run obviously with the Packers.
Then you go to the Chiefs and it's like, oh,
is what a super Bowl? They tell me how first
of all, Rogers and Mahomes are different off the field
and then in the huddle.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yeah, I mean I think, you know, there are two
different types of leaders. You know, pass a lot more vocal,
you know, rally the team. You know, Aaron's more, you know,
writing your face, you know, talk to you writing your face,
opposed to the whole team. He goes to each individual
and Pat addresses the whole team. But they're they're both great
at what they do. You know, they lead in different ways.
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They're both super competitive. I think that's, you know, one
of those things that between those two guys. You know,
that's the biggest similarity into them. You know, obviously the
arm talent and you know what they can do off
schedule and the throat that they can make, but just
the competitiveness that they both have. You know, I was
grateful to have those two guys as my first two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I'm sure the numbers say one thing for deep ball accuracy,
but for your money, Rogers or Mahomes, who was the
better deep ball thrower for you, man?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I don't know. I think, you know, I think they
both had different skill sets when it came to it.
You know, obviously I got Aaron and year seventeen I
had in year six, you know, so you know, obviously
you know, Pat had the stronger arm, you know, when
it came to it, But you know, Aaron was just
so pinpoint with everything that he did. You know, so
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I think that the skill sets were just so different.
But those two guys, man, it was it was great
to be a part of that.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Walk me through the Super Bowl against the Niners. I
had forty nine ers winning. If forty nineers were in
total control, it felt like to me at least. But
I'm just curious what they tell me about halftime because
it seemed like you guys were kind of in trouble,
especially third quarter. Mahomes throws the pick and it's like, oh,
here we go. But at halftime, was there any concern
at all?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Or is it we've been here?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Nah? Man? I think you know, the great teams that
you know, battle through adversity all year. It was it
was no flinch out of us. You know. I knew that,
you know, and we knew that we deserve to be there.
We knew that we just had to settle down and
just play our game of football. And you know, obviously
we had been through ups and downs all year and
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you know, it was no different than the Super Bowl,
and so that kind of prepared us, you know, for
for those moments and to never ever have to flinch.
Coach Reid does a great job just preparing guys for
all the situations and never be blindsided by the moment.
And so I'm forever grateful that I had a coach
like that to kind of prepare the team in that manner.
And you know, it showed in the Super Bowl, showed
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the last two Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You caught a touchdown pass obviously, just an incredible comeback
and victory for the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I don't know, take me through like the fourth quarter
and overtime.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Man, it was a It was a crazy thing, man,
because obviously, you know, we have to go down to
tie that game in the last quarter right before right
before it ends, and then to go and watching them
get the ball first, and you know they decided to say, hey,
we'll take it first and leave us to figure it
out after. And then you know, we just went and
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drove that field and won the game. I was, you know,
part of a couple of those calls to you know,
get us some first downs and you know, making some
plays to help us get in that position. So it
was it was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Man.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well, is that would you say, to date highlight of
your career? Uh?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Nah, Man, you know, obviously, I think you know, scoring
the Super Bowl a lot of guys can't say that
they did that. Yeah, but you know, there's been monumental moments,
you know, part of our career, you know, even the struggles,
you know, even the drop versus Philly in the season.
I think that was, you know, a big moment for
me just to say, hey man, you can still do this,
you know, and and shake back. You know. So I think,
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you know, that was that was a big moment for me,
just to say, hey man, you know people are still
going to count on you.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh so let's go back to that to drop. If
memory serves, it was like over right around like the was.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
It in the end zone?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah, right, two yard line or something like that. You know,
it was a third down, a couple of seconds left
in the game. It was raining, you know, we got
you know, was supposed to not rain that the whole
day and we ended up getting rained the entire game,
you know. And then you know, obviously that was a
rematch from the Super Bowl the year before, and you know,
they kind of me to go make that play and
I didn't, but you know I was able to kind
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of battle through that, man, and get through you know,
those those sorrows and keep going. Man, you know I've
never waivered you. My faith always stayed high. You know,
I'll leave to myself. My confidence never kind of dropped down.
I know I can go make a play. And then
throughout the throughout the rest of the season, I just
kept making those plays when they needed me.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I gotta say, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You brought that up.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
There's some people who don't want to talk about their lows.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You you brought that up.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I wasn't gonna ask about it.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, No, it's cool, man. It's all a part of
my story. Man. You know, I've never run from it.
You know it made me know who I am today.
You know, I batted through.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
We There's some athletes these days have the rabbit ears, like,
for instance, Kevin Durant and the NBA, Like you'll say
something about him online, he'll come and find you in
d and get all of it.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
In the NFL a little less so, but there's some
of that. There's some punching back.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
How are you handling social media after like a game
like the Eagles game?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Met It don't bother me, man. I'm from the south
side of Saint Petersburg, Florida. Man, I've seen way worse
things in real life. You know, so anybody behind behind
a camera or you know, behind their phone to say
whatever they got to say, you know, to make themselves
feel better from their mom's basement or you know the
you know, their their work office Internet. It's cool man,
you know. I love the passion that y'all you know,
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fans have, but you know we are still people, you know,
But end of the day, man, it don't bother me.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Have you had any teammates who you've seen struggle with it?
I'm listen.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I've worked with people who they can't handle it when
people are bombarding them?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yes, what do you say to them?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
You know, it's we know what we do in real life.
You know, even know the work that we put in
in real life. You know in this building, you know
where that building is, you know where there's Screen Bay,
Kansas City, Buffalo. You know the adversity that you had
to battle to get to where you are today. None
of those fans will never understand that, you know. So
those are the things that you kind of just got
to remember, you know, and these people don't know. You
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know what you really went through. You know how to
get where you are now.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
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Speaker 3 (08:44):
I'll ask about the Buffalo bills, and again, like I
got to be careful how I frame this because you know,
earlier we were talking about Brandon Ayuk and some of
the stuff he's doing on social media. As you know,
I know people don't like the word diva, but like
Stefan Diggs has went through a lot in Buffalo and
they kind of moved on from him, and now they
bring you in and you guys aren't have the same receiver.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
But it's almost like a breath of fresh air. Look
look at how calm.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You are bringing up big drops Like that's pretty cool that,
I guess. How how do you walk into a locker
room knowing you're kind of replaced? I know Gabe Davis
is going too, but like you're now one of the guys.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
It's I never look at it like that, man, because
I went through the same thing when I went to
Kansas City and Tyreek Hill left. That's right, you know,
So I just come in there and be myself, you know,
whatever that version of myself is that's needed for the
team to help them win. You know that that's what
That's what it is. I've never really tried to say,
oh yeah, I want to come in and replace a guy.
You know. I think one of the best things that
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I ever learned from DeVante was just come in and
be yourself. You know, don't try to come in and
emulate me. Don't try to come in and emulate Cob.
You know, laf Is Gerald my favorite receiver growing up.
Don't try to be that guy. Just just be yourself.
That's what got you here. And so just going in
and and being myself is the goal. Man. It's never
about you know, what anybody else did before me or
after me, and manas it is all about who I
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am to be the best version of myself.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It wasn't on the question list, but it's Shaws Gardner
the best cornerback in the NFL, because you're gonna be
going upgains him twice a season.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
No, man, I think I think Snead is the best
corner really, man, just being you know, with him for
two years and just watching him play, man, I think
that he just has a very unique skill set. You
know that a lot of guys just just don't.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Have the physical nature, yeah, man, and just.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
His his intelligence. You know, I'm excited to see what
he does, you know, in Tennessee. But I think I
think he's one of the best corners in the league. Man.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Last last question is you played the Dolphins in the
coldest game I think in like the NFL playoff history.
Go ahead, tell yeah one of those guys going out
shirtless before the.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Game or no.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Nah, Man. You know, I'm a Florida boy, so I'm
trying to stay inside as long as i can until
let's kick off time. But you know, it's it was
definitely inhumane for us to be out there. Man. It was.
It was cold, but you know, obviously it was it
was cold for them too. You know, we lived in
it in Kansas City, so we had a bit of
advantage there. But yeah, it was it was brutal, but
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you know, we we got it over quick, and we
went on a nice little Ryan to you know, go
on the road and beat Buffalo and then go and
beat the Ravens, you know, then ultimately win another Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Amazing playoff front. Congrats Mark west Veldi scaling great stuff.
Let's go to Alex Curry with the News.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
This is the herd Line news.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Mark was I just have to say, what a rat
outlook on life that you have, Like, thank you for
sharing that perspective, because we don't we don't get that
a lot from athletes, and to just feel that and
see that that you are also motivated by the lows,
like that's that's great. Thank you for sharing.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Of course, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Okay, Now let's get to the NFC East. The Commanders
have a whole new regime in plays with a new ownership,
new head coach and Dan Quinn, and a franchise quarterback
in Jaden Daniels. Now, the rookie has gotten a lot
of praise coming out of camp, and the latest come
from another newcomer and running back Austin Eckler.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
He's an absolute stud out there slinging it. I've loved
his leadership that he's shown early on. You know, he's
texting me about routes. He's calling me out in practice
a this is what we need to do on this
or what did you see on this choice route? And
so he's got all of the right stuff that I'd
love to see from a quarterback that he's been bringing
out in the first couple couple of weeks that I've
met him, and so I'm looking forward to his growth.
And we have a lot of veterans, you know, like
(12:24):
you mentioned that we've brought in to help set the culture.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
I mean, I hope this is a turning point for Washington,
But this is what you want to hear, right like
from a veteran in the league. But again, you're coming
to a new team with new ownership, a new coach,
a new GM playing under a new offensive coordinator in
Cliff Kingsbury. So like there's a lot of there's a
lot of new here, and you just hope that a
(12:49):
guy like Jaden Daniels, who's Heisman Trophy winner, can come
in and they can figure something out right away, because
you're also not you're not in a necessarily easy in
the NFC East. Yes, the Dallas there's some questions what's
going to happen with Dak and CD and Micah Parsons Eagles.
Can they bounce back after kind of falling off of
a cliff at the end of last season, Giants losing
(13:12):
Saquon Barkley, So there is an opportunity to kind of
do something, But like, is it all going to come
together with so much new?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It almost feels like they should have gone after Montquez, Valdez,
Scandling right to add to the receiver group. I mean
what I mean geez. Yeah, I'm not as bullish on Washington.
Cowherd loves them. Yeah, it sounds like you kind of
are all in on Daniels.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
I'm not all in, but there's hope. Like it feels
like there's hope and everything that you've heard about Jaden
Daniels from former teammates or just coaches that have played
from him is just like how great and good and
ready he is. It's just you never know. This is
something that like again, new coach, new GM, new system,
new offensive coordinator, new quarterback. It's so much new. We
(13:55):
don't really have anything to base it off of right now.
So it's going to be interesting. What are your expectations
for six or seven wins? Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I don't know if he's the guy. I don't whoa,
We'll see. It's early.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
It's all right, Well, let's move to a team that
does know that they have the guy. The Jaguars had
a lot of promise heading into last season starting eight
and three and looking like one of the teams to
beat in the AFC, but their season ended with a
one and fi finish that cost them the division title
and a playoff spot, which their owner called an organizational failure.
(14:30):
Which is interesting to come out right after you give
your quarterback the biggest contract in NFL history, but then
say the end of the season going one in five
was an organizational failure.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I don't know, and Lawrence was kind of dinged up.
He was not one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
This is true, but at some point somebody's gotta Usually
there's got to be a fall guy when you collapse
like that, especially after making the playoffs the year before.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Trevor Lawrence and his wife
just recently, I think it was today, announced that they're
pregnant with their first child. So now he's got a
little extra to play for, not only trying to bounce
back from the end of last season, prove and now
go out and earn and deserve this biggest contract in
(15:20):
NFL history. And then not even a baby on the way.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Did they say how many weeks or months they are
or no?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Only I said, yeah, it looked. It looked fairly it
was on Instagram, looked fairly new.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
So let's just say three months in, Alex.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Yeah, they're going to have help. They're gonna have a
night nurse, They're gonna have no.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, no, I'm talking about like if there's a big
week seventeen game and his wife goes into labor Saturday
night before before week seventeen, Like, is Trevor Lawrence missing
the game?
Speaker 6 (15:49):
I don't think you can. Of course you can. Jason
Kelsey's wife Kylie was like at the Super Bowl, like
possibly going into labor there, and they had a full
plan in place with the doctor traveling he went at
all times. No, you can't. You can't miss it if
you're in the game in that moment, day before, day after. Yeah,
it's tough.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
No, no, wait a minute, wait, Alex.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
If his wife's you want to be in the room
with the wife, who cares about week seventeen. Now it's
obviously not great for the Jags. Yeah, but you got
to be there with the wife. There's you only come on,
he's very religious.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, I'll go ahead. I'm on record.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I predict Lawrence will skip a game if his wife's
giving birth on that Sunday.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Now we're worth seven.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
If it's a game that like determines if you get
into the postseason, so.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
What, it's one game he's gonna play in two hundred
in his career.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
But if it's a game like on the line determined,
I don't know. Again, Like this is this is a
personal Prengradle choice. Yeah, congratulations, this is awesome. But yeah,
a lot to prove and a lot to play for. Yeah,
it's gonna be interesting. Let's switch gears to Major League Baseball,
where Shoheyo Tani has been absolutely crushing the baseball and
(16:57):
on the hunt for the league's first triple crown since
Miguel Cabrera and twenty twelve, and with All Star Weekend
coming up next month, show Hey told reporters yesterday that
although he hasn't been approached about it, he wants to
take part in the Home Run Derby, but also mentioned
his ongoing recovery from Tommy John surgery might be a
potential hold up. Now, this would be great for the
(17:17):
Home Run Derby course, but shoe Atani's gonna be at
the All Star Game anyway. He's going to be there
as a DH and I know we haven't seen We
don't always see the top players participating in the home
run derby. Take his former teammate Mike Trout had been
asked numerous times when he was the best player in
the game always declined. Now, there is this notion that
(17:39):
a lot of players feel like if they are in
the home run derby it ruins their swing towards the
second half of the season because you're going up there. Yes,
it's kind of like batting practice, but in batting practice
you're hitting a ground ball, hitting a fly ball, then
hitting a home run. This is like one hundred percent
power trying to hit it out of the ballpark every
single time for however many rounds you make it through.
(18:00):
And so with sho Heo Tani, he is recovering from
his elbow surgery and he's still in the build up
recovery process. So if there is anything that could affect that,
I don't think he would do it, but show hey,
Otani will know what's best for his body. This is
what he's done his entire career in Major League Baseball
to become a two time unanimous AL MVP as a
(18:23):
two way player. He knows his body. If it's not
going to be the best situation for him and his
team to continue winning and get to the postseason and
win a World series. That is his ultimate goal. He's
not gonna do it. He's gonna listen to his body.
But also like this could be really fun, like seeing
seeing Sho heo Tani just hit dinger after dinger.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
That would be awesome, Well said, I think I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Prob sit it out, don't force it, you know, bigger
fish to fry.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, Alex Curry with the news.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd line.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
New right is tonight must win for USA against Panama.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Alexi Lawalas will tell us next.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
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Speaker 5 (19:12):
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Speaker 8 (19:13):
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couldn't be more excited to announce a podcast called Up
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Speaker 3 (19:53):
Anytime I've hosted or I will be hosting this summer,
I have requested we got to bring this guy in.
He's so good on SoC He's polarizing, he fires people up.
Alexi i Lawless, the legendary USA soccer defender. I would say,
the best soccer defender that we've ever had in this country.
I don't know if you would say that, but.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
No, I would. I would concur absolutely. I mean, I
mean it's pretty obvious. Two of my favorite people here.
This is awesome. What a way to start a wonderful
day of celebrating the greatest country in the world, America,
especially through the eyes of soccer US versus Panama today
in the Copa America. As we continue on, So bring
it on on and off the field of celebration of America.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yes, I love the fire. He is excited and listen,
this is a must win game tonight. That's not saying
too much. Is must win Alexis.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
I mean so for those that maybe haven't been following,
Cope America is happening this summer. This is a huge tournament.
So last time this US team is going to be
in a tournament where they are going to face opposition
that is better than them before the twenty six World
Cup obviously, so this is kind of a prelude. This
US team right now came out in the group stage,
won their first game against Bolivia. But let's be honest,
(20:59):
Bolivia is not good team. Now It's up a notch
here today when we play against Panama, and yes, it's
a must win game in that if they win it,
for all intentsive purposes, they go on. And they also
don't want to leave it late to the third game
because it's up a whole nother notch when it comes
to Uruguay, which is a very very good team, and
if you have to get points, if you have to
win against Uruguay, that could be problematic. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Now, I don't want to go overboard and get too
much into Burholter. Sure, but some of the stuff critical
against Bolivia. I saw you were critical and obviously doing
a great job on your podcast.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I'm just curious. The lineup looks good. Probably no changes tonight, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
Don't think that. I mean, you won two zero, you
probably could have won five zero against Poland, Poland against Bolivia,
and I don't think that there's going to be a
lot of changes, and I don't think that there should.
So one of the big questions is up top for
the striker position, and it is just this this vacancy
and nobody has grabbed hold of it with both hands.
Flow Baaligan scored in the first game. That's what you want.
(21:55):
Didn't have to have a great game, but scored. That's
the most important thing. So I think you roll that
back and continue on Christian Polisitic Captain America. I think
he's playing some of his best soccer right now. I
think he's matured. I think there's a grit that has
arisen in his game, which I think is good, and
also kind of just a fearlessness in terms of taking
players on. He scored early on, you can see here
(22:18):
a cornerkick here. But more importantly, I don't think that
he I think he's matured. I guess I'm using a
lot of words to say that this is a player
that is matured and potentially could become what a lot
of people when he first burst on the seam Seene
wanted him to become, was this iconic type of American
player and potentially the best player in American history. And
he's become a leader on and off the field, a
(22:38):
soft spoken leader, but he's also doing a lot of
the leadership in terms of what he's doing on the field.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Now you use the word grit for Pulisic, I do wonder.
So some of our staffers in the morning meeting, we're
like this, this team, I don't want to use the
word soft, but they don't have that gritty underdog vibe
that they used to have where they were the plucky
upstart who's gonna fight.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Hard and battle. I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I don't know where I'm with this play. Is there
a little softening to the US approach?
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Okay, so, first off, we have played the underdog role
to a team.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It suits us.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
Let's to be honest, It's easier at times when you
often have nothing to lose, and over the decades, we
have used that to our advantage. We all know that
going from the underdog to the favorite, or making that transition,
even though it's only this much space, it's oftentimes the
most difficult thing to do. What I am concerned and
I think what you're hitting on here is this pendulum
that has swung. And yes, we were gritty, and we
(23:33):
were in a sense raw I don't know if that's
the right word, but raw in the way we went
about doing things. But it was you know, it was practical,
and it was pragmatic in the way that we played
for a long time, and it was dare I say American,
and that's not a pejorative. That is a good thing.
So as the pendulum has swung, we have tried to
become more evolved and progressive and romantic in the way
(23:53):
that we play. I just hope that we don't know,
leave all of that behind. And I think that there's
a good type of balance that we can have where
we can take the great stuff from the past, but
also some of the talent that we have and yes,
at times become more expansive, and yes, at times have
more of the ball, and yes, at times, you know,
be more proactive and putting pressure on the other team
without losing that unique americanness, if that's even a word
(24:15):
that has gotten us where we are, and I do
think is a good thing to lean into going forward.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Before we get to the Euros. I got to ask
Brazil laid a massive egg this week. It kind of
could show you anything can happen in Copa. So I'm
gonna put you on the spot at score prediction USA Panama.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Oh yeah, I think we beat Panama. I think we
beat them comfortably. There is you know, because this is
a team that we face in our region, which is
CONCA CAF. Familiarity breeds contempt, yes, but familiarity also bring
breeds familiarity. And so I think this Panama team will
recognize that they are not as good at the US,
but they will not fear us. And I think that
there is a level of confidence that comes from having
(24:55):
seen exactly what we are. There are no surprises when
it comes to the US relative to Panama.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
And not to go back to last year's Gold Cup
game last July, I believe we lost in PKS. But
it was not to be a pejorative, but it was
kind of our beacham fair to say so we.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Don't need to take anything away from that.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
No, no, And I think there's a lot of players
that didn't play in that game in that tournament that
are licking their chops saying, all right, let's fix this
right now.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And let's also be honest.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
This is Copa America. And for those that maybe don't
understand Copa America, there's the World Cup and then there's
all the regions around the world that they have their
own kind of World Cups.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Commono Bowl is a South.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
American region, all right, So this is the Championship of
South America that it's actually being hosted in the United
States with guests like the United States, like Panama making
up a bigger tournament. So by the end of this tournament,
if the US were to win this tournament, they would
be crowned Champions of South America.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
That would be awesome, Yes, yes, very awesome. All right,
and let's get to the Euros. You had one of
the best takes I've seen. I'm on some text thread
with soccer dads and everybody saw is Portugal better without Ronaldo?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
And that's a spice.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I think I might have even commented to you online
like that's an awesome because that's what we do, takes.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
But there's some truth to that, right because they've got
a great young foundation and Ronaldo. I'll let you say no.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
But I think you know, you guys talk about soccer,
soccer and sports every single day, and we all know
that the dynamic within a locker room, the dynamic between
coaches and players, especially you know, big name players, famous players,
iconic players. Sometimes it's you know, Roberta Martinez is the
coach of this Portugal team and he's got Christiano Ronaldo
(26:29):
here and he brought him. When he took over, nobody
would have been grutched and saying, you know what, it's over.
It's you know, you're a legend right off into the sunset,
but we're going in a different direction. But he said, no,
we are going to have you. Not only are we
going to have you, but we're going to start you
on a consistent basis. And so every manager, every coach
out there will tell you that they are you know,
they're they're your priest and then you're psychologist, you know,
(26:51):
and they are at times your parents. And so I'm
fascinated by what the dynamic is between this iconic player
who wants to play every single game, who still feels
that he is the best and in many instances does
incredible things. But are there players around that are saying, God,
we gotta keep going. We have to say how much
we love him and if he was not necessarily on
(27:14):
the field, we could be so much better as a
group and addition by substract subtraction. But there's no way
they can possibly say that in public because this is
Chris Giano Ronaldo. And so I'll be looking forward to
seeing what Portugal looks like in the future because it's
not going to happen this tournament with a Christiano Ronalds
Ronaldo less Portugal team.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
It's a great pub talking to him. Sure I didn't
say bars at pub. Speaking of pubs, England has not
looked amazing. I was talking with Storage about this and like,
I don't know what's your level of concern with that
national team.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
So first off, thank you England because you provide more
content than anybody out there. You know, I came on
air with the Cope America and I said something and
I've said many times before, and people lost there, you
know what, especially around the world, when I compared them
to the Dallas Cowboy, Yes, and that as many people
love them as hate them, but everybody tunes in and
wants to see and there's schadenfreud and all the stuff
(28:08):
that surrounds them, and even internally when it comes to
England and they're press, they're just constantly critical of what's
going on. And I think that it's warranted right now
because I don't think that this team believes that they
are the elites that they that they make them out
to be. Doesn't mean that they can't win right now,
but there's a lot of concerns that again, this is
a this is a wonderful group of talented individuals, but
(28:32):
not necessarily a good team.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
So your favorite here with Assumi Spain. They've looked incredible.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
Germany, Germany the host nation. While it hasn't been a
couple of good cycles for them Germany hosting, they rise
to the occasion. Everybody you know jumps on board. In
Germany right now, the crowds are are incredible, So you
know that would be Germany and Spain right now are
at the top of my list. There we're seeing teams
like Turkey eight, by the way, which is known as
(29:00):
Turkey Turkey at which is doing some crazy amazing things
going forward Austria, so there can be some dark horses.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
So Georgia is a total shocker. Yeah, I knew nothing
about their their program. Is there a Georgia in Copa America?
Speaker 9 (29:15):
Potentially Labino Tinto, which are Venezuela. They have already secured
passage into the knockout rounds and they are sitting pretty
actually in qualifying for twenty twenty six in fourth place.
This is a team that's never qualified for the World Cup.
So I think a lot of people are looking at
them as not just an interesting story and a possibly
successful story for this summer in Copa America, but also
(29:36):
going forward into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
All right, Alexi Lala is great stuff. Hey listen man,
you're fired up. I love it.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Fired up, big day for America on and off the
soccer field.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Right, what could you lock debate going on?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
You're talking about the NBA draft?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, of course, bringing on.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Alexi Lala has always fired up the crowd.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And listen man, you're ninety fourteen one of my favorite
sports teams of all time.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Oh, I mean.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Watching the World Cup, I mean listen, man, that was
a seminal moment in this country for soccer.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
We've had, we had a good time, you know, I'm I.
It warms the cockles of my redheaded American heart to
see how far we have come on and off to
soccer field. So onward and upward as we get into
this summer and continue on into twenty twenty six, because
the Men's World Cup is coming at twenty twenty six
and it is going to be awesome.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Can't wait. Great stuff, Alexi Lales.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Obviously, tune in USA Panama on Fox tonight for Jason
Alexi Alex have a great night in sports.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Talk to you tomorrow.
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