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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, you know him from twelve NFL seasons, three rings,
Brady's go to guy the latter stages of his career,
one of the great all time receivers. In the postseason,
He's also going to podcast games with names, which I
had the pleasure to be on. Very very good, hard
probing questions by Julian Element, very impressive conversational Yes, so
NFL kickoff rules, My thing was okay, the intense good.

(00:48):
It's kind of weird looking, but you're trying to guys
like you not get hurt. I want my players to
play longer. It's weird, but it is more football. I mean,
what did you make of it?

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I think it's exciting, and then guys like me don't
want to get hurt. But guys like me also made
the team because of special teams and it's an opportunity
for eight hundred more plays or so they keep on saying,
for guys that are bouncing around the league, guys that
are special teams, guys to have an opportunity to stay
on a team. It gives guys value. You know, it's exciting.

(01:20):
I was watching this all last night just to see
what the special teams coordinators scheme is gonna be. How
are they gonna adjust to this. I mean, it's gonna
be real exciting when you see a guy like Cordell
Patterson back there, who has a twenty yard cushion and
he only has to break one wave. Yeah, you know
the original, the old school kickoff, there's usually three waves

(01:41):
of guys that you have to hit, and you have
a track. You see how they're trying to run that track.
You know. Here, you run the track and you break
through that one gap and you're you're gone. You know,
it's gonna be it's gonna be a fun play. It's
gonna bring more points. I watched every kickoff, we all
watched it. I was glued to it, and I thought
I thought it was good. I mean, there wasn't. The
tackles are still going to be pretty tough because those

(02:03):
guys are flying. Now. Usually you got a really good
Matthew Slater type guy that's running down the field on
special teams, that cushion's only six seven, eight yards because
he's a burner. These guys are having thirty yard cushions,
which means you're not getting in to that wave of
guys and you know you're getting full speed ahead. So
it's gonna be an exciting, fun play.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
All right. So the NFL said, Dolphins rams Niners, knock
it off. You found a loophole in the rules in
regards to motion, and Dolphins did it week one, and
then McVeigh and shannan saw it newsed at the rest
of the season. So I want to talk about this.
I've said, when it comes to my football coach or
my accountant, push the envelope. Look for loopholes as long

(02:47):
as it's legal. Belichick did this, did he not?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
We did zoom and zap's jet motions all the time.
And what it does is it creates confusion for the
defense at a lightning fast speed. So say it's a
run play and you got Deebo Samuel jetting across the field,
the outside landbacker has to pay attention to this guy
for a half a second. That half a second makes
that tackle be able to get up to him the

(03:10):
second level, and then he goes for a pass play
you get a Tyreek Hill who you know, he's motioning
to the outside. He's creating a natural separation instantly, and
then once he gets speed and he can get going,
you know, it's tough for a defender to to catch
up to that. So, I mean this has been going

(03:31):
on for years. We used to do this all the time,
you know, substitute tackles or hey, if it's in the rules,
like you said, the accountant, you got, you gotta get
in there.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah. I was a little surprised, maybe not a lot,
but that Caleb didn't play. I mean, Tom actually debuted
Brady in a Hall of Fame game, Mahomes plays preseason.
Uh what did you make not playing Caleb at all? Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I want to see Caleb play in the preseason, and
I don't necessarily care they didn't play in this game
for the simple fact that I've heard through the grapevine
for years now that the plane surface and everything at
the Canton Hall of Fame Stadium is absolutely atrocious. So
you know, I don't care about that. I do you know?
As a player, I loved getting a preseason game a

(04:21):
preseason rep because it gives you an opportunity to work
out your game day operation. What time do I get
to the facility? I need two hours to get my
warm up in. I need an hour to get an IVY.
I need to go go over my game plan for
thirty minutes. It gives you that game day operation. So
once you hit a real game, you know what you
have to do to get going to get yourself mentally, physically,

(04:42):
emotionally set for the game. So I'm sure he'll get
some reps. They have an extra game in preseason. I
don't mind that he didn't play in the Hall of
Fame game because of the surface.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
If it was a one o'clock game in Foxboro, do
you show up at eight thirty five or something like that,
eight forty ish, eight forty five.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Uh one. I usually like to get there about four
and a half hours before.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, so you're.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
We'd have one meeting in the morning at our team hotel,
and I go directly back to just the stadium.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So I was saying this if you would have said
when Drake, when Brock Purdy was the last guy drafted.
If you would have said, you know what, they're going
to bail on the number three pick. They're going to
go with Brock Purdy, you could have said, hot take.
So I'm like, be careful. Joe Milton his last year
and a half in the SEC thirty touchdown passes, five picks,

(05:35):
sixty five percent completions, seven rushing touchdowns. Jacoby Brissett sixty
quarterbacks played. If Bresset twists and ankle, Milton is a
physically superior to Drake may I said, I wouldn't be
shocked if he got snaps all season. What do you
make about the reports that Drake is really struggling and
what do you make of their quarterback situation?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
We would you say, right there, physically, he's a specimens,
a specimen. But he did play at Minute Michigan and
then had to transfer to Tennessee, so transferred. So yeah,
but Rock Purty didn't. He played four years and what
was his what was his strength? It was being a
cerebral player, so he could execute. He can operate, I mean,

(06:17):
which that immediately translates to the league. If you can
do that, now you know a guy that can throw
ninety yards. He looks the part and everything. I mean,
that's that's all great until you have live bullets coming
down your face. And also in New England, I don't
know how it is now, but I'm sure Mayo has
adopted a lot of the same scheduling things with practice.

(06:41):
You know, you have ninety guys on the team right now,
so your first stringer is getting most of the reps,
second stringer, depending on situation. I'm sure Drake may is
getting more reps than a regular second teamer. And then
you have the third stringers, which there's usually a designated
period called the basic period for the third stringers, the
guys that are trying to make the team, the guys
that need to be evaluated. Uh. And they play against

(07:04):
each other. They've seen the play three times, they saw
the ones run the same play against the same look.
They saw the twos run the play against the same look.
Then they have an opportunity to go out there to
show the coaches, hey, I can digest what we brought
from the meeting room and bring it to the grass.
So that's where this is right now, until live bullets
are going and you have a six foot six Julius

(07:25):
peppers type coming right down your face and you got
to make a throw. You know this is this is
still sunshines and rainbows.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, it was funny. I I you guys were very
good at it. In New England, Brady and Belichick, who
will spent a lot of time at the podium. Gronk
was a little goofy and then he tightened up pretty quick.
So Patriots didn't send guys to the podium that could
get in trouble. But it is interesting solo when when
Aaron Rodgers was in Egypt said it was an excuse,

(07:53):
And my take is keep it to yourself. You know,
I don't need to know that. Yeah, Aaron comes out
this week. Nobody told me. We didn't communicate. I wouldn't
go there. I did think it felt like a little
shot at Aaron, little shot at the coach. I could
be overreacting. Maybe I'm so used to Brady Belichick where

(08:16):
you gave up nothing, but I can't see Stafford and
McVeigh taking shots at each other. I didn't like it.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah you did you you know I kind of saw
that too. I'm still not a fan of of missing
a mini camp. I didn't like that. I have nothing
but the most ut respect for Aaron Rodgers and his
ability to play the game. Uh, but we're we're all.

(08:43):
We all make a lot of good money here, you know,
when we're playing football, and if you can't reschedule something
four days later, who's made of? Like I don't understand
the logic behind that. Yeah, and it's only making us
talk about this right now. And they haven't even had
a snap during the year. He hasn't even played a

(09:03):
meaningful snap in two years, and we're talking about all this.
So you know, all this is doing is create more
and more distractions, which that city, New York, they love
that page six. I'm sure they're all. I mean, you're
a New York guy, right, this.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is four functioning newspapers are five.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
So it's it's you know, it's just making the situation
more difficult if things.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Go bad, do you know at this point? So college
camp's open today, I think most of them. NFL camps
have been going for about a week or so. Plus
you have OTAs how long before you Julian looked at
the rookies and said, oh, that guy can help us.
I mean, mostly have eight new guys and there's there'll

(09:49):
be a couple free agents, some low end, some high end.
But when you start integrating guys into your camp, do
you have a sense like a weekend, Oh, this guy
can't pick it up, this guy can certain positions.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I could see a receiver right away at OTAs if
he was going to help us.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Really. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I remember watching Jacobe Myers, and I remember he was
an undrafted guy, former quarterback, and I saw the way
he released the ball, how strong his hands were, how
he was he never made the same mistake twice like early.
And when I saw that, and he was able to
create separation, and he still didn't really know how to
run routes. Like you can see something right away, you

(10:30):
get to really see it when the pads come on.
So you know, the first day of pads, everyone's a
little hopped up. Everyone's all you know, this is war
day and war daddies are everywhere. You know, that's when
you really get to see if if you have a
you know, an offseason training camp all American, or you
have a guy that's ready for you know, real football.
So it's pretty early on offensive lineman, I would you know,

(10:53):
you see that we were in a very different situation
where our our coach would coach. Belichick would coach everyone
in front of everyone, so he would pull highlights and
low lights after each practice and address the whole team
in front of us. So I remember watching Rob Ninkovich

(11:15):
and he was like a long snapper for New Orleans
and we picked him up. And I remember watching him
on one on ones the first day of practice going
against Matt Light, who was our Matt Light was one
of our best linemens three Super Bowls. I mean he
stud technically sound strong, and Rob Ninkovitch was eating them

(11:36):
up on one on ones the first day we were there. Wow.
And that that's when I was like, I put him
in my phone, Rob Ninkovich, white athletic guy, because you know,
it was one of those things. It's still that same thing,
but you know that's that's where you see it. When
you see it against a guy with pads on, or
you see it against high level guy like a Matt Light,

(11:57):
against a new guy, Rob Ninkovich, that's when you can
start the base, all right, this guy could potentially help us.
Now it changes once you get in. You know, the
speeds get higher and higher. OTA's is fast because you've
been training and it's all whatever. Then you get to
training camp, it's a lot faster because you're throwing on pads.
You get to play against another opponent. You go to

(12:17):
a joint practice, those are even faster. You get to
the preseason game sometimes those are fast, but when you
play against someone else, they are faster. Then regular seasons
a whole nother ballgame because everyone studs, right, So it's
just continually get You get a look at a guy
and then you you kind of watch him, You tag
them and you say, I'm gonna watch him. I want

(12:39):
to see him three weeks later, because you know everyone's
fired up week day one of pads. Sure, the real
dogs come out, you know, the second week of pads,
that's when you see competitive stamina.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I want to say, so, what year did you break in?
You broke in, broke into the NFL two thousand and nine.
What was who was the most impressive rookie in all
your Because this is a big deal. Now I'm watching
Rome with Dunze and Caleb. I can't wait your whole
career there. Who was a rookie and two practices in?
Now Nikovic had been in the league. Yeah, he'd been

(13:12):
in a rookie and you were like, oh, wow.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Devin mccorty was pretty I mean he was.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
He was going up against him.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, we're going against each other.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
He was.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
He was pretty good. Like just he he he gave
professional vibes. He had a professional aura, the way he
was in the locker room, the way he talked, the
way he held himself, the way he was with his
family early on. Like he he was a guy that
you were just impressed with, Like he doesn't really look
like a rookie or act like a rookie.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, that's something now, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Like I said, Jacoby Myers, when I first saw him,
I saw his release game, and and and he wasn't
even a receiver for a long time, and I was
really impressed with him. That's just those are the two
that still out of my head.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
No, I think stuff like that's fascinating to me because
I'll say stuff sometimes on the air, and I'll say
little stuff. People that do little stuff well generally do
big stuff even better because little stuff is annoying and
sometimes teds, but it leads to big stuff. Got that's
absolutely so. By the way, you're gonna do a pod

(14:21):
with Bill on your games with names. So you're doing
John bod Jovi, you're doing Bill, You're doing big stuff.
You're going.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Big name.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
So let me ask you. I think Bill's gonna make
another one at coaching. I think he's too smart to
be out of it. I said this when Sean Payton
came to Foxbury year. I'm like, I remember having dinner.
I'm like, you're too smart to be doing what I'm doing.
You got to go coach. Bill's too smart to be
sitting on the sidelines. I actually think it's an advantage
Bill not coaching, getting off the treadmill, bouncing around to
college camps, you know, son, I like, I think it's

(14:54):
what Bill needed. I think sometimes it's it's I mean,
you're on the treadmill. Yeah, you don't even fall the news.
You don't know what's going going on. Your guest, Do
you think Bill makes another big run to try to
get back, because I still think he's one of he's
the smartest defensive coach in the history of football.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, I do. I do think Bill wants to get
back into coaching, and uh, you know, I think this
is a great thing for him to have a year off,
because he he when we go into the off season.
He'd always talk about self scout. We got a self scout.
We got to know our strengths, we got to know
our weaknesses. Now, if he practices what he preaches in

(15:27):
his coaching career, then he's going to get better because
he's going to realize certain things that he probably would
have done differently or this or that. You know so,
and it gives you a perspective when you get to
see be out for a year and see it because
I remember after I retired my first year, my first
year out, I'm sitting there like, man, I wish I
would have done this a little less, or I would
have done this a little more. I didn't train train

(15:49):
too hard this year, and you know he still has,
you know, some gas in the tank where he can
still go out and do things because he's a coach,
which is a great teacher, great teacher. So I do
believe he's going to be back in the league.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
So you did look at your career and pick it
at it. Oh yeah, oh yeah, train too hard?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, I mean my body broke down. And I was
a guy that never liked to get out of shape
for you know, my first two three years. I was
like a regular You know, all right, you get three
weeks off, but after that, you know, hanging around Brady,
you sit and you look the off seasons where you
evolve yourself. This is where you make your gains. This
is where you could do that. I just didn't do

(16:29):
it as smart as I possibly could. I would just
go full speed like a jet throttle, no throttle, ain't
no break.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Julian Edelman three super Bowl championships, one of the great
postseason receivers ever, Twelve years in the NFL, all with
New England. It's great sea, great seeing you.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Shout out to Lily Bug, my little girl.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Lily Howard. Congratulations for coming to this amazing studio. It's
probably the most boring place you'll be the rest of
your life.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
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Speaker 1 (17:06):
J Mack for the News.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Turns this is the Herd Line News.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
Surprised you didn't ask Gettlement about the Dak Prescott situation
with Michael Parsons is now trying to angle for a
long term extension. Parson believes his play under new defensive
coordinator Mike Zimmer this season will take him to another level.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
They're really just expanding my versatility, you know, using me
in ways that I should be used, and you know,
moving me around, making them I DMI and bringing pressures
from other places, bringing me when they should bring me.
But he's going to utilize every asset of my ability,
and that's just you know, sometimes I appreciate, but that
was the point of focus of you know, trying to

(17:49):
be in better shape, trying to be better knowing what
the standard of what he was going to have me
do was. So you know, I think, you know, I
really like it a lot, and it's gonna be a
it's gonna be a really good year.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
For I think it will be a very underplayed storyline.
Dan Quinn out.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Zimmer in Zim Zimmer Zim's good. He's a scheme shift happening.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
And yeah, yeah, And I just I saw a report
Michael Parsons lost like twelve pounds in the off season
and he's gonna be going up against left tackles a lot.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
I are they gonna move him around there?

Speaker 6 (18:25):
I mean, when you listen to his explanation, he's like
They're gonna be sending me from different places like, I
don't know, man, this.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
You need him coming off the edge. You need him
and Lawrences bookend coming.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean, that's one of the strengths of their team,
is that edge Rush Mike and Dorcus Lawrence. It's one
of the strengths.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Sounds like Parsons not gonna be coming off the edge exclusively.
I don't know a lot of happening in Dallas. Cowhard's
got gonna be interesting season. Let's move to New Orleans,
a team we rarely talk about, except when you take
all the jabs at them.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
Anyways, Year two with Derek Carr. Reports indicate that.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
Fifth round pick Spencer Rattler is wait for it, turning
heads boy and has been impressive.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
Car will most definitely start, but Rattler.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
Is making some noise. Even Chris o'lavey chiming in Ratler's arm.
Talent is off the charts now. Spencer Ratler was a
big time high school.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
He was a huge I mean he went to Oklahoma.
I think he transferred to South Carolina, but.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
Before he transferred, he was like, oh no, he was
give to me the future number one pick.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Well he was Quinn. Viewers like he got that kind
of hype.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
Yeah, was it with Lincoln Riley? And I think it was.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I think it was with I'm not sure if it
was with Lincoln or not.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
And then he like kind of lost the job to Caleb,
and then Caleb and Lincoln left. But then Ratler went
to South Carolina and was kind of middling. I would
be shocked if something happened to Carr in New Orleans,
right losing his job to a road They to spend
a lot of money on him.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
You're not bail.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
They're heavily invested.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
But it is impressive to hear Ratler because New Orleans
has like no juice team.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
They have a great linebacker. I mean, they have a
handful of players. I like O line secondary linebacker Laura A.
Labb is really good, but I found him last year
to be really boring Offensively, it comes from the coach.
I thought they were risk averse and dink and dunk
all year.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
Supremely disappointing.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
We will wrap up with Major League Baseball Colin, where
the Dodgers have hit a rough patch.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
They went eleven and thirteen in July, including.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Dropping their last due to the Padres, getting outscored fourteen
to six. They now only lead the Padres by four
and a half games entering the final two months of
the season, but Will Smith of the Dodgers does not
seem that concerned.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
We're still in first place in the West. There's just
things we got to focus on. Fling on things that individually,
folks on things of the team steeper after playing good baseball,
you know, and sets the seas. It's a long, long year.
You know, there's any injuries, there's any tough times. There
a good times we should have been this year. So yeah,
this is part of it. Will come out of it,
no doubt about it. Where the Dodgers, we know we're

(20:53):
the best team in.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Baseball, Well, I would say the Phillies. Phillies and Dodgers
both struggling. Yankees had a bad month half. The three
best teams in terms of overall talent, Yankees, Phillies, Dodgers,
they've all had bad stretches, bad stretches, and the managers
get all the heat for it.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Yeah, but the Dodgers have Mookie Bets, Yamamoto, Walker Bueler,
Max Munsey all on the il and also they have
the Freddy Freeman's going through the personal issue with his kids. Unhealthy,
very sad story. So they've got a lot going on there.
You don't want to like kind of blow this division lead.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
And now I think this is the biggest I think
the remember Yankees Yankees Dodgers felt like the biggest series.
Dodgers steamroll them. Phillies Yankees felt like a big series.
Yankees played some pretty interesting baseball. Now Phillies are starruggling.
Bryce Harper won for his last thirty that's the worst
streak in his career. Now they go to LA. They

(21:49):
got to turn it around. So Phillies and Dodgers played
in the series. Phillies rolled through them. Dodgers couldn't get
out space. Running was bad. So there's been like it's
been a little it's basically who's hot and who's healthy. Yeah,
Phi Phillies got it turn it around. They're coming out
West having steamrolled the Dodgers in Philly and they are
a bit of a mess. So that's gonna be a great.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
Serce Monday, I think Monday Tuesday one.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
But I'm watching those games. Yeah, jmck with the news.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. The
Herd line.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
All Right last week, AFC, This week, NFC Tomorrow's Headlines Today,
Jmac seven NFC playoff teams next.

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Speaker 1 (23:02):
All Right, J Mack, last week you ran through the
AFC playoff teams. It's my favorite segment every week, and
we've got some good ones. But as a former newspaper
guy who kicked that career to the curb to go digital,
gambling and television, it is time. Are we ready? Tomorrows

(23:22):
Headlines today? Let's start Jmack. Seeds one through seven. Let's
start at the bottom. Your seven seed in the NFC.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
Okay, seventh seeds. So this is a bit of a surprise.
I don't think a lot of people have them here.
This is a bilo for me. The headline for the
seventh seed will be Donald, Palmer, Sam and Justin create
perfect mix.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
That's for your boozy weekend ahead. Listen, man.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
I love the Aaron Jones pick up for the Vikings,
very underplayed story. This is a great running back. He
was dinged up last year. Yeah, but I do think
when you look at the past defenses that Sam Darnald
will face it.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
I think Sam Donald wins a job, right. I don't
think it's gonna be McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, Donald to go.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Now, just remember what Kevin O'Connell did last year with
even inferior quarterbacks as Sam Donald. Okay, Like, Donald's gonna
have an opportunity for success here, Colin. I think schedule
is a little tough in the first like seven weeks,
but after that I expect the Vikings to take off
and I've got them sneaking into the seventh spot in
the wild.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I love this pick. I love that you have the
courage to do that. I love that tomorrow's headlines today
the number sixth seed in the NF seed Donald Palmer,
that was good.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
That's not bad. Listen, this one's tough.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
I love your Rams, a couple other good teams. I
wanted to put the Bears in. I just didn't quite
have room. The headline for the sixth seed will be
over the cappuccino.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
Seattle leaves NFC foaming at the mouth. I'm sorry. I'm
all in on McDonald.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
I love what he did in Baltimore last year as
a defensive coordinator, and just he's got pieces in the
secondary to work with. In Seattle, I think they're gonna
be a better defense.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
But I love the offense.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Now it's a bit of a black box. We don't
know what the new OC coming from the University of Washington.
Your guy grub Yeah, we don't know what he's gonna do. Like,
are they gonna go three white outs? Because if they do,
you gotta locket. You got Metcalf and you got JSN,
the awesome player at Ohio State Colin. There's a world
where this offense is like, oh, we've got something here.
Offensive line was down a little last year. Remember the

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two tackles were good. I think two years ago came down.
If we could just get them up.

Speaker 7 (25:23):
I think the Seattle Seahawks are gonna sneak into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I one of the more compelling teams. I just don't
know what to get. But everybody is saying, this is
Demiko Ryan's level. Coach, He's gonna surprise.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
You could get them.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
Plus I think plus one seventy five to make the playoffs.
That's not bad. Plus money for Seattle.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Toorro's headlines today, now we go, it gets interesting. The
number five seed in the NFC.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
I mean, you know, doctor Colin Cowherd, this might be
the number two seed in the NFC.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
You love these teams.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
The headline will they Love? Actually is pretty good. Packers
show signs of Life.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
Now listen, you probably don't know the movie Love ACTUI.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Oh my goodness, Karen Knightley's in there, allied to ensemble cast.

Speaker 7 (26:04):
Great movie.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
But Jordan Love we know he started slowly, very slowly
last year picked it up.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Colin.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
I looked at the injuries this team overcame last year.
Offensive line was in brutal shape, Bacti AI end Company
were hurt. Aaron Jones at a running back, Christian Watson,
the great promising wide receiver. Right, he mist like half
the season, Colin, if you could get green Bay full
season healthy Jordan Love's second year with Lafleur as a starter,
I think green Bay's probably a wildcard team.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
I've got him in. There's a world where they win
that division.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
I still think Detroit's head and shoulders above, but green
Bay seems like they're here to stay.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Now we go to the division winners in the NFC
tomorrow's headlines today. So the first of our division winners,
number four seeds.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Listen, this team should have been here last year, right.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
They got terrible quarterback play, easy schedule, could not produce
the headline will be part of me. But do you
have any great Vigia the John Robinson and the Falcons.
I think they're gonna get in, Colin, look at the schedule,
oh n. Just easiest schedule in the lead, no question.
And you combine that with they went four and six
and one score games. That was with a coach I

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didn't love. I think you liked him more than me.
And then a quarterback Desmond Ritter, who just I mean
he melted down in the red zone.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
He was awful.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
They just couldn't do much offense.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
So Now you get a better coach in Raheem Morris,
you get an upgrade at quarterback with Kirk Cousins. You've
got the skill position. Guys, I've got weapons b John
Robinson was fantastic. The wide receiver, Drake London. I like
him a lot.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
Yeah, I don't see them as a twelve win team,
but ten ten wins is going to get you the
four seed.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
I think, similarly to Tampa last year, just enough get
in and maybe you get fortunate in round.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
No, you and I agree that this team's got theirs.
They underachieved for their offense, and I.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Could not go back to the Saints after last season's debacle.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Toorro's headlines today, Now we get to the elite teams
in the NFC, the number three seeds.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
So there's three teams a cut above everybody. We pretty
much know who they are. We'll start with three. The
headline will be wake up and smell the golf e.
Lions love Northern Roast. I've got Detroit going back to
the playoffs. They're favored in fourteen games coming now. The
big concern among Lions fans, and there's a few of
them out there, what do we have If Amara Saint

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Brown goes down the same way to Ceedee Lamb as
the number one guy by a.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Mile, fraudulent receiver, potentially.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
You could go out and try to buy DeVante Adams.
They we're all in. I mean, listen, they kept Ben Johnson,
the great OC. You paid golf, you paid Saint Brown.
Offensive line returns four starters. They should be one of
the best teams in the NFC. Again, I just questioned
the pass defense.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
They were terrible last year, but they addressed it.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
They did.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
They're going to start two new cornerbacks, Carlton Davis from Tampa.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
Who was bad.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, I know, but he's got these length, he's interesting.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
Place, he's interested.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
And then a rookie so brand new secondary. They haven't
been able to fix that.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
We'll see. I like the Lions as an eleven win team.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Now the Titans. Tomorrow's headlines today, who do you have? There?
Is the number two seed? Remember only the one seed
gets a bye?

Speaker 6 (29:05):
Is it very difficult because you want that one seed badly?
The headline will be juice, check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
Yes, we're giving a fullback some love here. I know Niners,
I love him I'm picking him and win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
Uh, it looks like they are favored in every single
game they listen, you, we forget last year they were
in two one score games.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
That's it. They blew out everybody. Baltimore on the AFC
did the same thing. Blue People out, Blue People out.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
Christian McCaffrey, healthy, Deebo Samuel. If everybody's healthy, they're good
to go. Now, we don't know what's going on with
TRUV Williams. I'm still waiting for your brand and Ayuk
source to pop up with the contract. But this offense,
when everybody's there is amazing. Is a juggernaut. I like
pretty a lot niners number.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
I like him more than people think. I like his maturity.
I like his maturity and his action. I do worry
late in seasons wind rain. He struggled in a mile
wet game in Cleveland, and it's you get to the
December and January, it's windy and cold.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
I have him as the two seed.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
That means if they're not the one seed, they're going
on the road, possibly for the NFC Championship.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Finally, Tomorrow's headlines today, the number one seed in the NFC.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
I know fans of this city think I don't like them,
but I'm telling you they're going to be a beast
this year. The headline for the number one seed in
the NFC will be Eagles now possess, asserted Jena Kwan.

Speaker 7 (30:32):
Yes, I like the.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
NFC, the Saquon Barkley edition. Kellen Moore is an upgrade.
Look at Saquon Barkley, all excited he is in position.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Not that he is going to have a monster year.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
I can't win.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I hope he's healthy. I want to see him just crush.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
He should dominate.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
Obviously, losing Kelsey at center hurts, but the skill position
player guys are loaded. Kellen Moore good offensive coordinators regressed
a little. I think he can return to form with
an awesome unit Angio defensive coordinator who we like a lot.
I know he rubbed some people the wrong way in Miami,
but this is a team that has all the pieces
in place.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Now, secondary is a question. Everybody, you know, how many
great secondaries are there?

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Well, nobody plays its? Yeah, it's an offensive league. So
here are my NFC predictions. Eagles, Niners, Lions, Falcons.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I think we're yeah, pretty darn class.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
My new playoff teams are I have three in the NFC.

Speaker 7 (31:29):
Here are yours? How they stack up? You have Rams?

Speaker 3 (31:31):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
I think it's very clear. Your upset team is Minnesota.
Mine's Washington. Yep, you could very well be right. I
like the Rams a lot more than you. You like
the Seahawks somewhat more than me.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
We both have the newness in there.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
No, but I mean we we have a lot of
good coaches and a lot of I mean, we're very similar.
Your Minnesota pick is courageous. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
It's a little off the board.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
But you know what's funny is everybody bailed on Baker,
and Baker reborn Gino. Everybody bailed on Gino reboots his career.
Kevin O'Connell and Kyle Shanahan are big Donald fans. They're
looking at the same film. Yeah, I if Donald comes
in there and gets protection.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
Can you split with the Lions and Packers?

Speaker 6 (32:17):
Is there a world where they go two and two
against those because those teams are clearly better than the vible.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, you're what you're saying basically is Chicago's last, And
I think that's very possible.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
And I like the Bears.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I think they are only defensive coach in the division.

Speaker 7 (32:31):
The Bears could finish last and go eight to nine.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
That's what I think they're gonna That's what I think.
I think they're gonna be a I think eight and nine.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
But does Zebra Flues keep his job if they go Wait?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
No, he won't. But my take is I want to
see Caleb's production. I don't. They're not a super Bowl team.
I don't care about the record. Do I watch them
and think, Oh, they're viable? Like Houston last year made
the playoffs. Even if they didn't, you'd be like, oh,
this is gonna be a good franchise for a decade.
Coach quarterback Texans are They're gonna be good. That's what

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I'm looking for. We'll see them Monday live in LA.
It's the Herd.