Joe and Jada - Common on Fat Joe SAVING HIS LIFE in Ice Cube beef, Chicago hip hop & Jennifer Hudson
October 30, 2025 • 59 mins
Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with Chicago rap legend Common. The three hip hop OGs talk about Common coming up alongside Joe, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, and The Beatnuts on Relativity Records, the time Joe saved Common's life during his beef with Ice Cube, how his iconic song "I Used To Love H.E.R." inspired the 2002 Taye Diggs film ‘Brown Sugar,’ composing the new theme to the NBA on Prime Video, the influence of KRS-One on conscious rap, where Will Smith and Tupac Shakur rank in his list of top rappers-turned-actors, and his successful acting career leading to roles in 'John Wick: Chapter 2,' Apple TV's 'Silo,' and 'Smokin' Aces.' Joe also tells priceless stories about turning down a role in 'Shaft,' Queen Latifah chasing him around the studio, and surprising Styles P (a vegan) with coconuts at one of his parties.
5:30 - Joe saving Common's life during Ice Cube beef
12:30 - Why nice guys like Common are successful with women
15:30 - Relationship with Jennifer Hudson
22:00 - Winning awards while ALWAYS repping hip hop
25:30 - KRS-One & conscious hip hop
35:00 - Joe's story of why he left Relativity Records
38:00 - Acting roles in 'John Wick: Chapter 2" & more
41:30 - Story behind "I Used To Love H.E.R."
45:45 - Fat Joe says he turned down a role in 'Shaft'
48:15 - Being a ball boy for Bulls during Michael Jordan era
51:30 - Queen Latifah CHASED Joe in the studio
53:00 - Top 5 rappers-turned-actors
55:00 - Composing the theme to NBA on Prime Video
1:00:00 - Joe tries his hardest to sign Common for Rewind It 10
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, you practically saved my life.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Get the other fact, yo, Yo, that man really saved
my life.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah yeah, what up y'all? This is Fat Joe the Gangster.
It your boy, Jaden kiss you know what it is?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Did Joe and Jaden's show, Every show legendary, every show iconic,
and you get just what we tell you you're gonna
get today's guests. You think of hip hop and you
think of barge speak on the gard. You think of
a strong black man when you think of morals, principles,
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when you think of craftsmanship, when you think of transitioning
to becoming a very great actor, one of the best
on screen and a voice.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Actor, you think of the South Side of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
That's the right shot town. What's good?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Ladies and gentlemen, give it a five?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Brother comic.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Explos is getting better and better, my brother, better and better.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That that that in show Man, that was a man.
That's that's spoke to my heart. Bro to be honest, man,
I never heard nobody and showed me like that saying
a man of integrity like that. So I want to
say gift. Thanks brother, brother Joe. I'm glad you what
you are.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
No, I'm glad to see you do the real deal, bro,
Thank you brother.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
First of all, in this show, I don't know if
you've been watching, but I count people's pockets. Wow, the
flag off, the off, the nah nah nineteen ninety three.
I mean Cabrini, bring Cabrini green projects.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, people don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Okay, you want to throw your taking flag back, and
don't throw one because I'm gonna tell you real chick.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, let me tell you all right.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I start at Relativity Records, me Common and the beat
Nuts and chi Ali the first artist sign he.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Signed nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
That's cool, he's before me, but we're on the same label.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
So you know how you were seeing Biggie in one
studio in this me and him, we started together like
literally infancy.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like you the second person that known in this whole
industry where the Beatnuts was the first shot out that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like Joe, you the yo yo.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But sir, you don't know how proud it makes me
that this kids that don't even know you rap and
I just see you in movies and see you doing things,
and I'll just be sitting back like wow. And then
I tell guys like him that I started with you.
He throws a flag and.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Tells me I'm capping, and I'm like, no, I really
know here, we really grew up.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Laugh came from saying I don't know if you know
whether or not on.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
This show I Pocket watched.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I watched Pocket. You know what I'm trying to say,
But I watch Hey Joe. But this is the thing.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's two moments in my life, in my career that
I can cite you for and just want to say
thank you. Brothers, Like you don't know what it meant
to me. One was you put me in a video
in your video and is the key to Soety Lena. Yeah, man,
Like you know, pictures come out like once a year.
It's in a pictures like it's gonna be here forever.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I love that man. He was kids in the arm
but you pulled up to the Bronx and I missed
some note that meant something because let him get in
coming from Chicago.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Man, one of the things we wanted was just to
be heard by New York and for you to be
like yo, even though he was on the same label.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
If you if you thought I was on some weak ship,
you've been like, uh, beloved and all for love it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm gonna tell you ship. The second one, well, the
second one we didn't talked about a lot. Man, you
practically saved my life. Get there on the fla, yo, Yo,
that man really saved my life. Like I was out
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on the West Coast with my guy, one of my
guys I knew through one of my close homies, but
he was my guy, and he just wasn't happy with
the whole situation, the whole ice q mac tan beef
that we had told him we had squashed it, were
doing it. We were sitting there doing a commercial. This
was the most money I was getting paid ever for
something at that point in time. Right, So we at
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peace were like, Yo, things is good. Everybody was like God,
just be from Chicago. We just couldn't hold it. He
couldn't hold it. So he started ruffling shit, and man,
it just got a little heated.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And I want to say, Dad, it's not because Fat
Joe's tougher than anybody. I literally begged for your life.
I literally got in the middle, was like, please, he's
my friend, he's my brother, you know, he you know,
some people take things personal. And they finally saw him
and he was on there I saw you and they
(05:46):
was talking crazy and I was like, no way, this guy,
I said, this is literally my brother. And I was
begging them because it was the serious ones. I was like, please,
this is my brother Joe. You know we've been we've
been waiting to catch this guy. I said, listen, I can't.
(06:09):
I just couldn't do I just see And basically I
stood in the middle like please, guys, like I cannot
do it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
But they they set up.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It was over after that day, right after that day.
But you settled that, like like, I'm like, man, we
are on we in California. Don't start nothing my homie already,
cause they already, like you said, they already wanted to
piece on me no matter what.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Because so my guy out there, he just he's just
going off. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I knew Joe. I ain't even hit it, but I
ain't know everything he did. But oh no, he did.
I knew it was him.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
They said, Yo, this can't happen. And because he had
a you know, relation, super relations still my brother and yeah,
shout out to.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
My family. Brotherhood. Family was good. That's when Fat Joe
the gangster. I was like this, this is cause he's
straight up, was like, he can't do that to my man.
It was like like one of the movies was talking
about good fact.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
He once again I begged him. I was in there, Mercy,
and I was just like, please, this is my brother,
this is my family. I did that one time for
Rich playing my best friend. One time they was about
to do it and not saying Rich and I mean
real deal. Well he was getting into it with a
seven headed monster guy who who just kills he's in
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jail for too many bodies, and I had to jump
in the middle and be like, yo, yo, yo, I can't.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's like yo, fat boy, get out the way. I
was like, oh no, I can't. This is my family.
I can't.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I knew what it meant. They real deal and this
other guy's you know, Jeffrey Donald, and I'm and I'm
a monster, and I'm sitting there like, yo, listen, please
let me get in. I said, no, knock him, that
knock him that y'all had yet up there.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But they go. But they go. The men go because
the first argument I ever had with him, right.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
He goes the next day to Rich and they had
blocked on Cyprus and says, if Joe got in the middle.
That means you're good guys. Let's become friends. And they
wound up being best friends. My man is still in
jail thirty seven years. But he went the next day.
He took it on himself, as said, if Fat Joe
threw himself in the middle trying to squash it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
These guys gotta be good guys.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And it was all over, you know, staring at each
other in the club and a couple of girls. And
you know, these guys they kill each other over girls,
These gangsters. Man, a lot of gangsters in jail killing
over girls. I'm telling you I.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Had a guy. This guy was a meaning. He's still
in jail too, forty years, right. He was mean, looking, scared, straight. No, no,
because no, A lot of wars have come over over
over women, most of them.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yo, But listen, this guy. All I'm gonna say to
you is this was a mass murder. He's still in
jail forty years. He would come to the club and
he'd go he's Porto Rican. He'd be like I, and
I'd be like yo, said I. The nanna he's talking by.
His wife was bad as ship to her. She was
fucking dudes like she was loose. So come on then, nah,
(09:25):
you know Jimbo from the barber shop. H yeah, he
was with the net with everybody. If it's ten, got
the no Jimbo, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yes with the net. Net.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Jimbo won't be away the two more days like he
would come all of one time.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I argue with the niggas like A and I said, no,
I don't want to hear that shit. You're a fucking liar.
She's the most decent girl in the world. She didn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
YESA, and everybody knew what that was. Somebody was disappearing
over the net. Not no.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I know maniacs like that. Man, but you know, common man,
you're the beloved of all beloved. Let's keep it peace.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I said.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You know what I said, I didn't see.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
What's that like spoken sage or something.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
It was posted to protect us for that story.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
It's similar to say it's Plasanto's Palisanto. You know it
comes from the trees down in Chili, bringing the good energy,
bringing the good energy, moveative energy.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You know you guys, I know, I know, I know
you in the serious relationship, correct, But you guys, you
nice guys.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You always got the baddest chicks because they think you
nice guys.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You know, comebags, its comeback, you come with a smile.
They don't comment. He's the beloved them all. What a
nice d the beloved of all belovers. And you Polosanto,
you know you know you got that new ship out
there on the streets.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Boy, Yo, you know I gotta say, you know, like
at the end of the day, you know, I've definitely
dated some some beautiful women and amazing women, but I
think you know, it was like they respected me as
a man. They knew I was coming as a man.
I had the the love, but I'm a man too.
It's like I'm gonna lead the way I lead, and
(11:28):
I was giving him that you know that authentic man, Joe,
I'm true, Bro. I don't be trying to like I
ain't gonna act like like nothing for nobody at this
point obviously, but even at that moment, but you just
say you always You've never been like a like a
bullshit and you always been a break shooting like and
no nobody I've been with it's like none of the
(11:51):
women that I like have relationships with go be like
damn that nigga just did me bogus foul like I
had the intecurty.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, I'm a man. I did you know something's wrong?
Speaker 6 (12:01):
You know?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But I'm saying it ain't been bogus where It's just
like I ain't been out there like bogus, And uh,
you know, I'm the type of man. If it ain't working,
I'm gonna say it ain't working, I ain't gonna keep
you going like forever because you got a life. I
got a life. We want to live happy. So yeah, man,
I just I mean that's I guess. Nice guys, do
you know what it ain't?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
How you knowing it ain't work? What do you want
me do?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Jada, we had a real life ship.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
We're trying to help. Somebody's in the struggle right now.
Somebody watching this ship. They don't know whether they want
to be together or not. Maybe he can give us
some knowledge and maybe it's time to move on or
stay strong.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean, King, seek seek the King doing all, so
be at it. You gotta seek the King. No man,
listen man, Jada just said it. Man, I'll be like man,
I try to listen to God most of the foremost
all like that's in everything I do. And especially the
most important things in life, where it's like career, my purpose,
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a relationship, dealing with my family, dealing with how I'm
gonna go speak on something like if I get an
opportunity to speak to people, Man, I'm always going seeking
the Kingdom first. So I think in a relationship it's
important that.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
The reason why I feel happy and great in the
relationship with Jennifer is Man, God is first, and we
just building from there. We're not perfect human beings, but
we communicating, we growing. We like just trying to be
the best children of the most High and still have
fun too, Like you could be God.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
And I know you ready with your intellectual questions. But
let's go back to Jennifer. The reason why I love
her so much besides her being so talented, but the
hard things she's been through in life, and to see
her just keep a chin up and walk through the
fire and still be strong and still be you know,
that's what I respect about humans the most. He's the
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adversity you have to overcome and the tough times and
all that, and then her, you know, she had the
toughest man.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean, I don't know if it's getting no tougher
than I don't get so don't get no tough.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I've never been able to tell her that because you know,
I sit next to her and all the games and
all that, and you know we always have it fun
when I see her.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
But they you know, she's like, man, you know, she's
a gee. She would appreciate that, man.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And I gotta say, that's one of the things that
I was like, Man, how this person got still got light?
Light after all like losing dealing with what she dealt with.
I'm like for her to have light and be good
to people and like just still be bright about life.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
That's that's that's strong. But warriors, that's just a different
type of Yeah. But yeah, that's what it is. I mean,
I ain't the relationship expert, but.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I want to know, what was it the South Side
of Chicago, Like e nineties, eighties and nineties, Man, Chicago,
a lot of our people are from the South, so
we got something that's rooted in the South, but it's
but it's really Chicago is a city, so we got
that that movement of a city and the slickness and
the culture.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But growing up it was like I experienced everything from
black church to liquor stores, gang bang cultures like no matter,
I don't care how smart you or whatever you're gonna
be around game bang culture.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We hoops like there's just nowhere around it. It's the
one city.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Well La too, because I've seen grandmothers in all red
cars with red seats with red tires.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Principles is schools coming in red suits and blue suits. Yo.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
They I didn't speaking to mac ten and them. I'm
out there shooting the movie with them. I'm thinking of
water and Grandmother's is all red and Principles and Schools
is coming and the cops is throwing this ship up.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I'm like, it's it's like.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
That in Chicago with everyone is pretty much.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
How did you escape?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I grew up with around stone, blackstones and four corner
hustles and vice lords and that's who I was with.
And man, that's what it is. I mean, I don't
mean I have like friends, that was folks or whatever,
but overall, I guess I escaped it because I started
feeling like I had something to live for. So I
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wasn't going too deep into that, but I you know,
me and my guys, that's how we had to make
it to a certain degree. But just like we know
the stories from I don't care if you know it's
the b X, I don't care if it's young because
if it's if it's Atlanta, if it's you know, La.
When people start seeing you doing something, they support you,
like you coming from the hood, they like man, especially
(16:48):
doing something good, they kind of wrap their arms around
you and be like, we ain't gonna let nobody get
to this cat.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So I mean, I was part of it. And then man, blessings,
man like what you just talked about.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I could I could have not been here all they
been around stuff and I could have not been here,
But you know best about it most.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Now back to the first flag he threw at me.
He's why I said, counting pockets. Right.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I meet you ninety ninety two, ninety three, and I
go to Chicago with you, right and with sitting down.
This is when Chicago it wasn't even a downtown. It
was just the real Chicago, the good times Chicago. And
I remember sitting out there with you and you was like, yo,
I'm buying all the properties and you were telling me
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your grandfather had properties and he taught you how to
buy properties and why I counted your money because I
said this, man, I'm just buying a chain a call hooty,
and you was buying properties at that time.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
But man, really it was my mother who was really
the like my father used to say to me, get
the land, get the land. I ain't grown up with
my father, but when he was, she would say certain things,
you know, to be like get the lamb, man, they
can't take the lamb from well.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
My mother was like, as soon as I started, like
first album.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I ain't really make no money. I'm trying to, you know, survive, right,
none of us right, maybe.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Only a freir head full out of They went and
bought a kilo with their advance.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
The good story, all right.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I'm just trying to let you know they had a
side of us. And while rapping, I mean, that's what hey,
that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
We wouldn't make it.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
But but my second album, my mother saw that I
was like getting somewhere, like just more than more than
what you know, like I had before, and just she
you know, she was like, man, you don't know how
long it's gonna last. Man, you should invest in some property.
And I was like, man, that's good. I started doing it,
and then she was she was She was the one
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that schooled me. And then I got a friend named
Moe who got into real estate, who started breaking it
down even more so that's when I really started getting
in properties and are seeing the value.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I mean, I really honestly wish early on.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I was up on like investing in because I got
all on the health ship early like the health.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Like got down with this. We would have been we
would have been franchising.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
We would have been franchised. I came to the opening
of y'all in Brooklyn. Yo, you know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I'm gonna start smoking this Piscato thing. What's the ship here?
You always ahead of time. I don't smoke, but this ship. Look,
I might have to buy some of that stock. Could
have pid man, what's the call Bylocano?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Cause you always haaded a curve on everything that fole
of South.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
They're gonna make some money, for sure. We got to invest.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I'm gonna come up with my own first, you know,
I be on some wellness that we're looking you, huh.
Maybe it's gotta come from South America. Yeah, it's gonna
be a good one.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Be a good yeah, because I got I got to
now fast forward.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
How does it feel the when every goddamn a walk
and I feel good whenever I see when thank you
because I.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Know what you stand for, what you represent, where you
come from. When they when they let one of us
in and you just dominate the way you've been doing.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Me feel man, I love that because for us right
So when like, let me tell you, when I'm up there,
I feel like I'm representing us because we all, we
all the tribe, man, Like, we know where we've come from,
we know what we do, We've been through it together.
We ain't got to see each other all the time
to know we just we're from.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
We just we know the tribe. Bro, we love each other.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So when I'm out there, man, I ain't gonna from
when I was on the Oscar stage, I felt like
I was represented. I was representing gods, black men, brown men,
black people like hip hop Chicago. It was a lot
that that I felt like, Yo, this is this is
what I'm this is why I'm up here, and my ancestors.
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I felt all of that, and I'm like, I'm so grateful.
Did you feel that way? Because I'm like, man, when
I see y'all doing. I came in and said, man,
I'm proud of y'all. Man, it's just like what y'all doing.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Man, this is like it. It offers so much to
people people who like needed. We need it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
We need to We need the fund, we need the joy,
we need the wisdom. We need to come in like
in an authentic way. So to see us us like
just man, it was ninety three ninety two, Bro, ninety
ninety two Bro. So to see us like finding ways
and real ways to actually impact life and culture and
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be doing great things and taking care of our loved
ones and families. And you know, y'all rather you know
the same way. I feel like we all want. Now
I'm gonna tell you crazy things. I wrote my first
ever positive song right now.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You don't remember this. You know I'm game.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
It's the fat jaw smack your baby at the Christian
and I'm doing you know, I'm I talking all this
crazy shit. And I made one positive song and I
went to you, I Seek the Kingdom, Never Forget, and
I played it for you. I felt like the old
Common is gonna love this shit. It's a positive song
and I played it for you. It was like that's Joe, Joe,
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what the rest of the album sound like? Like you
wanted that sho I came with the Least Black Man,
this stunt il Can from the Million Man and he
was like, Yojoe was up with the rest of the holbur.
I was like, yeah, yeah, the album is hog. I
came to you with the positive joint like I thought.
Com was like, yes, now you want that Joe crack
(22:43):
fat Gangster ship. No.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
But but you know it was at the end of
the day, you were showing the evolution. But sometimes it's like,
you know, we all climb and go our way. We
grow in our own ways when it's time.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, for me, it's like positivity ain't gotta be like, oh,
preaching me. I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't like that in movies. I don't like it
in music. I don't like it in church. I don't
like me either, Like I don't like the judgment. I
don't like his self rightous. I don't like man, I'm
conscious now you know, like you was doing the goodness
out there to be honest, even if you know, like
you know what I'm saying, like bringing bringing me on
(23:25):
that that in itself.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
But I feel like, you know, I kind of remember
when you played that joy but I what that joke.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
But you know what happens, You know, somebody like carr
us One who had the machine gun in the cover,
and we think it's coming again. He's air planes laying
and it's overseas, people dying, politics is lying. I'm trying
not to escape. That ship was like a fucking a
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rose blooming. I remember how to train. I had to
walk in and I played that ship and he was like,
plan's flying overseas, people dying, politicians lying, I'm trying And
I was like, it was like a rose.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I was like, Yo, what the fuck is this? Yo? Man?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Cal rust, kill us want and hip hop and itself
at that time too. Man taught me so much about
who I am as a person. This stuff I ain't no, like,
I ain't know like even what he was just talking about.
It just certain things about Africa that I all bench
just and Benica, Man, why is that?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Sing yoh?
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Why is that? He was going?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
He was creating and there even to be able to
break down the books of the Bible when he was
Abraham was the father of Isaac Isaac was.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
The father of Jacob. Jacob had twelve sons. For real
the needs for the children of Israel.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I'm like man to get us to be singing that
and rapping that like man, that dude just elevated us
all man hip hop being at that time teacher man
the teacher, and he made it sound But that's when
talk about like he made that joint sound good.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Like I had to get to that. I had.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It was a point where in my in my music
and career where I felt like I was getting stuff
and I wanted to spread the word. But it was
too it was too like self right, it was too like,
you know, you gotta find a balance. Life is a balance.
So it's like, you know me growing up, he was
my hero, my idol still is.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
But kros One was God in the Bronx, right, and
then Fat Joe Yes became the new like you know
the dawn, We're going double platinum, We on fire. I
used to walk the streets with Charris One. Everybody teach
the teacher look at me like, you know, you know,
(25:46):
we attitudes. And I asked him one day, I said, yo,
I said, yo, Chris, how come everybody comes up to
you smiling with the teach. The teacher and then look
at you. He said, that's easy a rap about positivity
and unity. You wrap around gangster shit, they gonna make
you prove you a gangster every time out here. Me
(26:06):
did just smile. I posed no threat. I was like wow,
that shit was so deep for me at the time
where it was like yo, he's like yo. They look
at me like this is the unified. They look at
you like yo, you still fout Joe the gangster out here.
So dude, that's when we went right back to the
studio and killed some more people.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
That's a fact more babies at than Christian. But that's
what for me, I knew, like, okay, man, I wasn't
selling a lot of records, Joe. You know. I remember
walking into Relativity Records and it was I tell people
this story, it was it was Bone Thugs.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
At Harmony, Fat Joe.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I don't know if the rough House Riders will performing
like Fat Joe and sold maybe twenty thousand this week,
but Bone Thugs are sold forty thousand this week.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I sold five thousand.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So it was like that board let me know like
the priority of the label and what was going to
be put into my career. So I knew that, Man,
I gotta go on my truth no matter what in
state who I am because record sales wasn't it for me?
Like to be honest, Like I mean, I did have
some great ones at times, but some good ones, but
(27:21):
overall it was like, Man, my integrity of what you're saying,
like just putting positivity out there, putting creativity out there
and putting that light out there as what to the
end of the day, some people ask me, man, why
are you still doing it?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
That's why I'm doing it. Yeah. The passion of.
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Speaker 3 (29:23):
I'm gonna try to speed this story, but it's just
too relevant and it's a very motivational story. I said,
when when I do motivational speaking, we have relativity.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Meed you to be nuts Chia.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I lead, and they shooting five thousand dollars videos for us, right,
but we think of relativity. Ain't look fancy and nothing.
We think we on the come up and they run in.
Alan Grumblack runs in with a video and he says, y'all,
I want to show y'all, want to show you there's
a group I just signed, a group I just signed
and he puts it in and this boom, thugs in
(29:58):
harmony floating in the air. This this is not seeing yo, Allen.
This took stuck a million dollar video. He turned to
run and said, it is a million dollar video. We
spend a million dollars on this. At that moment, I
knew they didn't believe in me like they believed in
bone thugs, because it takes money to make money. So
I turned around and told everybody, yo, we gotta go.
(30:22):
And I remember some rappers just like Yo Joe, we
got chains, we got cars, apartment.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I was like, Yo, they don't believe in us. They
just spend a million dollars. And at that moment. That's
when I left Relativity.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It was scary because I did have a chain of
call apartment in thras Neck, and I just went and
no longer than six months later, I signed Terror Squad
records with Atlantic.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
They gave me a million something dollars.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Right, I only had two thousand in my bank account
with a gold chain and a call have Relativity. But
I say, in everybody's life, whether you abuse, you're a farmer,
you at whatever it is. I feel like there's this
invisible train that comes in front of you. It's to
train the opportunity. But it seems so risky, but you
(31:11):
gotta have faith in believing yourself and jump.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
On that train. And I jumped on that train.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Maybe six months after that I signed Big pun So
we was really on a raw, but I remember that
happened when they showed me that Bone Thugs video.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And by the way, Bone Thugs I love, y'all. The
theft was about listen. I missed my uncle Charles U
y'all you know my uncle Charles too, God bless you
know Fry. I fuck up my own lyrics was last week? Well,
I called them my list my uncle Georgia. Let me
tell you.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I gotta tell you something. Joe Buttons. I see him
at the Nick game last night. He asked me one
on one on the side, he said, your joke, say
the truth. You really thought it was Uncle George. You
really thought it was Uncle George and you was trolling.
I was like, y'all, I'm I'm fine, man, I really
said Uncle. I really threw the set Uncle George.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
It was I get my own lyrics fucked up. I know.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
They put me on the start like when you do
TV shows and be like all right, you gotta go,
and it's just a TV chair.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'd be like, oh my god, my own songs. They
heard something her important. Put that train.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I hear you on that train, like that visible train,
that visit trainer. For me, that's where acting became for me,
Like like acting was like.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Jay.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
It was like I hit a ceiling with music for
a minute, like where I was like, and what am
I gonna do? Like cause I was like driving to
do some super hotsy ship and I'm like, man, these
niggas eating my I released this album called Electric Circus.
It was out there in fact Primo I went on
to a gang style. He was like, man, I ain't
like this albumntil we started performing, so I staw you
performing on and I understand it more. But it was
(32:57):
like one of those things where I was just like, man,
I'm trying to trying to blossom and do something something else.
And then I was trying different things.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Man. I went to acting class and then man, that
was that train for.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Me, that invisible trainer, Like like, man, man, I love this.
It's something I can work at the craft.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I can. I can do this because I wanted to
do it when I was younger.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I was in the play when I was younger, and
my mother I was in the play, and I you know,
after I finished the play, my mother kept talking about
how good Derek ma Homie was in the play.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Oh he was good. He was a Derek is my brother,
my god. And that's day one. So Jay I was like,
I was like, I wasn't no good. Yeah, I wasn't
no good. Like what's up?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
So then anyway, I fast forward when I got the
opportunity to go to acting class, I was like, man,
this is it for me. I love acting as much
as I love music. I mean, music hit me in
a different place, but I love acting just as much.
You know what I mean, and across the.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Screen, bro, this great.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
You know I like gangster. I'm gonna skip a bunch
of ship is gonna get mad at me. But John
fucking they told you today you was in john Wick.
You knew that ship was gonna be ill right. You
was like, y'all, I'm gonna be on john Wick. Yo.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
But what's crazy, though, is you know that was I
was in john Wick two. So we filmed it in
New York and then it'll I thought it.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Was like though, man, it was you. It was like, yeah,
we was in Italy for some past us y'all bumped
into each other. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Ing.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
God. I love man the people that that checked out
John Wick.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Man. That blow my mind, man, cause I'll be getting
to cars like you said, some people don't know I
wrap I getting the uber the dude like, Yo, I
know you from somewhere.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I know. One thing they don't know is that your
common sense? Oh no, they definitely don't know. Yo. My
daughter looks at me like I'm a dinosaur. I'd be like, yo,
common sense.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
She'd be like his name is calm and Dad like come,
I said, no, that's common sense, No, Dad, it's cart.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You sound like a dinosaur.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You sound like I'm like, Yo, that's common sense. Yo, man,
they don't know what I ain't gonna front. I was surprised.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I just did this whole campaign with BMW and they
was like, man, we want the campaign to be a
say it's common sense. I was like, hey, y'all know
how y'all know about that. It's somebody in there that
new the new Like that's what the campaign is. It's
common sense. I said, damn, I'm gonna do this week.
We made it fly too. But it was like, bro,
(35:34):
like a lot of people don't know I be in
call like I was.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I'd be. I like to write in the car sometime,
like just riding around. So I was in there the car.
I was in Boston.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
This driver, this dude of the young dude, he was like,
I was, you know, I put in my music and
started playing on rapping and stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
He was like, comment, I ain't know you wrapped. I
was like, yeah, I had that argument. I've had that
argument about you.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
That means you a great actor.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Man.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
I'm grateful they see you in that space and it
overpowered this space that they didn't know about.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
We gotta go to I used to love him.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Okay, okay, you knew that was like a lean back
when when you finished that bitch, you was like, oh,
I knocked this shit out, though, Paul, Like, what was
making I used to love it?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Where did that come from? What was the exception of
that idea?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Because to this day, I mean, we did it in
so many Big l did the Bondics to this. Everybody
did some version of it. But that was like the
epitome man.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Whenever God dropped that idea into my spirit, bro I was,
I was geek. I just know no idea made this
dope beat. He was dopey except George shoutout killed yo.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I was sitting at home.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
My homies had just left the crib and I was
staying with my guy Soign we had we had a
crib together like an apartment, and I was sitting up.
It was two in the morning. I just had that
beat playing. I was like, man, what if I made
hip hop or woman? And then I just started writing
and you used to take me. I don't know how
for y'all, but sometimes I'll be taking I'll be taking
(37:11):
a wilder right attack. In the days they took way
back in the day. It used to be like you
need busting you, but yo, rain to come up with
some show. That one started coming to me. And then
I started, you know, just understanding the metaphor not understanding,
but just getting into the metaphor of it and taking
it through the through the whole ride, and I was like,
(37:31):
I ain't gonna fuck.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
I was.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I did feel like this is this is something way
through you was like, yo, this is some ship right
like as that ship start calling you, like yo, yo.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Man, I was like yo.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
And then by the time I got to the third
verse and it was like summing it up and got
to who I'm talking about, y'all this hip hop? I
was like, man, I knew that it could have something.
It could hit somebody because when I was in that
studio laying it, my guy, I said was he was.
He was like I could see him through the booth.
I was sitting there rapping and uh, you know we're young,
(38:07):
so he like, you're going here girl?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
He like, y know, he like, why are you doing
this love song? Even't want to, you know, he like
doing a love song like this. As soon as I said,
we'll talk about challis hip hop and ni grabbed his head.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Like, Oh, you want to know what's crazy is when
you came in here, I know how much you love
ill Matic and so we're doing some ell matic and
similar I used to love her to ill matic is.
Over the years, every time I heard I used to love,
I picked up something new and I learned something new,
(38:40):
and I was just like, Yo, this ship gets better.
You know, like ill mading, you can still like right
now we all could have rapped and didn't know the
word the right word right quarter body halfway Houston? What
the fuck he meant with quarter body got for Houston,
head for Houston, head for Houston, called her body.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Body had for us? Yeah, you know it's like so
you could keep like That's how the lover was for me.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Like every time I heard it, I would hear something
new and something new and be like, oh ship, that
shit crazy?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yo? What what? What hit me? Too?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Was like man, that was the first time I really
started like I remember, you know, back back in those days,
you would have like people give you a quote for
your album. Biggie gave me a quote and like I
was like, damn, I'm actually getting.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Respect from you know, more and more people.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
But then that movie Brown Sugar came out and Brown
Sugar was based on I Used to Love Her and
wow do that it was based on I used to
love her. That writer shout out to him, Michael Elliott.
He had come to me to write something, like write
some movie stuff with him, but I was like a
little bit, you know, I ain't know how to do that.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Were just moving, you know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Just so he ended up writing Brown Sugar Boom. Then
me and Erica, Me and Erka Badu did a song
four brown Sugar, which was Loving My Life based on
I Used to Love.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
You.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
So I was like it was it was one of
those things that kept evolving in a way, like that song,
and it was just seed that.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah see that.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Sheeps growing and you know what's crazy is but being
that you're saying that, I'm just you know, I was
supposed to be in the movie Chef.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I was supposed to be people's on you know the
actors are big, big yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay yo,
Rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
John Singleton he was coming to Jimmy's Bronze Cafe every
Friday trying to convince me to be in Shaft.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
But we was too much on that party, like a
rock star. We was like, give it.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
We ain't give a fuck with young rich rat niggas
big punt double plat. We don't give on fuck. He's
John Singleton was in the trenches. He was with me
in Washington Heights and fucking bummy apartment house, but he
had no business being there. Like, Yo, Joe, I got
this role. You could be People's because you know what's
my man? That the famous actor he played people He's
(41:10):
You see how he was speaking with the Spanish site.
He ain't staying no, no no. From that Joe was
supposed to be people, Bro, you turn that road down.
Dumb motherfucker. The dumb motherfucker. Every time I watched that movie.
It was supposed to be in glory, all right.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I believe what's something that happened to you? That you
had an opportunity?
Speaker 3 (41:32):
And he was like, fuck dad, I'm gonna stay in
d block yonk this, I ain't doing that ship. But
now when you look back, you're like, damn, I should
have did that.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
You got somebody you gotta give up.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
The last thing of Power, the last episode of Power,
last season.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Of Baising Kennan, I had to take my wife to
the usher sure, I tell you that that back I
couldn't get a private.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
It wasn't meant to be. It was one of them
be sad or be happy?
Speaker 3 (42:05):
You know how big that raising tailand was it the
shout out to one of the another Onevie?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I saw you at the Usher show that or you
was there too, Vegas. You know you go to Usher man,
you gotta he forced you to do the greatest hits.
Like I'm over there trying to go. All I want
is two free tickets. Right, it turned in, It turned
it of cost you more man, my brother, fat yo,
the light come like us and then you don't stay sick?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
And you got another word? Then it thow another one,
another one another. I'm like, ship is this the Fats
mars Is?
Speaker 5 (42:40):
Make you do a little concert? DJs? My god, it's
a honor your bucket, my bucket.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
You love basketball, yes, sir, played in the high school.
Was a ball boy for the Chicago Bulls from eleven
to thirteen.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
That m J NBA.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
He's seen NBA, He's seen Jordan's debut.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Right said things. First, I got to picture that front.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I might be putting them on blast, but I think
calib was a boy boy for Orlando Magic Too. I
never heard him say that before. But and Nick Anderson
all that Dennis Scott boy, he played the nd A
star in the movie.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
I would have hell with that. How did that fit?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah? That was bro. That mean movie that we love Basket,
I know you love That was my life was bro.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
That was like a dream, a dream, dreams and dream
inside of dream because that was my first lead role.
And then I'm playing a basketball player and I'm like,
in the movie I'm calling it, I'm playing against the Wade.
I'm like, damn, I'm trying. I'm trying to. Really, I
couldn't do nothing with him though.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Strong.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
And then once I was I was driving, you know,
the same was like, y'all keep keep I was supposed
to score over with dwhite House song, He's sake, I'm
scoring over. And then just about the third take, he
just smacked that ship. I'll show you what I really
do to this ship. I said, damn. But it was, man,
that was amazing. That was an amazing experience. Queen Latifa,
I got to give her love man because she, you know,
(44:19):
the producers, was looking at other people and then she
was like, I think he can do it. And the
producers really believed in and I had a tough time
on that movie because it was my first lead. So
they at one point, man, they was thinking about kicking
me off because I wasn't getting the scenes right and man,
it was crucial. And then I did this one scene
and they and they ended up being like, okay, cool,
(44:41):
And it wasn't even you know, it's like the story
you hear about. I mean, I ain't gonna put myself
on that level, but the story you hear about al
Pacino and Godfather, you know how.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I ain't hear it from the Bronx. From the Bronx,
that's right. That man is.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
That man?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Man, it's me. But listen, hear this all al Pacino.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
While they was filming The Godfather, the studio wasn't really
happy with his work.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
They was like this dude ain't delivered. So as Michael
as Michael.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
So the director he decided to move that scene up
where he and you know where he where he first
shoot them, dude, where the gun is in the bathroom
or you're the cop, yeah, the cop. He moved that
scene up because you know they were watching. You know,
when you're filming the movie, you get to watch what
they call delies. You're watching at what y'all shoot every day.
So he said, I gotta move this scene up so
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they can see how cold this dude is. And they
see they move that scene up, like.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
They said, make sure you throw the gun.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
That's a menzo and them they told him to throw
the gun. Gun yo, wipe and dad throw the done.
He threw the gun.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Joe just him.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
The tension when he's sitting there, when he's sitting there
with them, Yeah, the tension right there, like oh man,
man shout out where.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
They beat him up.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
He's ship he had the his ship was broken jaw
and he said down you understand this and that when
in the bathroom killed him. But I gotta tell you
something about Queen Latifa. Queen our teeth is in the
studio with Coolan Dre.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
One day I'm hanging out with that. She looks at
me for.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
No reason, says, well, you think you fucked tough? She
pulls the knife out. You got the She chased me
around the studio with the knife. Come here, motherfucker, You
ain't that tough. She had one of those You ain't
that tough, motherfucker? She starts chasing me around the studio.
I said you a lot of tief. Please, Queen, please,
(46:36):
you don't play that ship. She's chasing me. She gotta
I chase that Joe out the studio story. I'm telling
you she did it in real lights. You know they
say it's the Puerto Ricans. Everybody got a knife in
New York.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
Y'all, you gotta keep the AWKOI when new projects you
got coming.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I'm working on this TV serious for Apples called Silo.
Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
They check that out, like right, yeah, it's fresh man,
it's really fresh enough. My man Tim Robbins is starring
in it. Tim Robins from Shawshank Redemption and uh like
missed Mixed the River and this woman Rebecca Ferguson some
dope ass actors and dope actors and the story is mean,
it's dope.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
What's your top five rappers turn actors?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
That's a question. That's a great question that Will Smith
gotta be. Will there you, Queen Latifa? Most depth? That
man was mean, No, No, sixteen blocks, sixteen blocks.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Yo, he'll quit rap, he'll quit act I don't know
where most depths.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Three.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Let's go eat and bar salon and chilling shut under.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yes, sir, shout out to yes, I love you. That
man is he is one of the three? Okay, I
got you, uh.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Will Smith, Queenie most that I'm gonna go ice cube.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
That's four. And then.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Damn who else? Who else is out there? Oh? There
you go? Thank you. I was I wasn't go put
myself Tupac was caked.
Speaker 5 (48:19):
You did?
Speaker 1 (48:20):
You definitely in there? You know we don't like this.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
You know our era don't put ourselves in ship. Put
you in there morning. This was my first movie.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Man, That's fire. That was so good to get.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
That's the first movie I did, Joe, and then like
man that was my first call back. You know, I've
been auditioning, auditioning, and some of the some of the
movies I was going for, they didn't even want to
see me because I was a musician. They like one
to THEE, Yeah, how we good on that? And in fact,
because they had already had Alisia Keys in the movie.
The director was like, I don't know if I want
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to see him, but the cast director was like check
him out. So I did the tape and then they
they called me back. I was so gig man my
first all back and I was flying from doing a show.
I landed and went into the audition. Man, I felt that.
I was like, you know, I'm about to like this
shit up. And I did it maybe about a couple
About three weeks later, the director.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Called me like, Yo, you got the job. You got
the job. Like I was crying. I called my mother.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Then I had to go tell Kanye, like, YO, can't
go on this tour. Man, I got a movie and
he was like, man, do your thing, do your dream, brother, dude,
do what you gotta do. I was like, thank you,
appreciate you. That was my first movie, brother, all right
and everything to me?
Speaker 5 (49:34):
The look back. You just got the theme for Prime
for the NBA, and we saw it.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
I saw that, bro, let me tell you, I saw that. Hey,
as we said, I'm representing us. I feel like man
to be able to have the theme song like for
the NBA. What on Prime out? You could have never
told me like me. James Poyser James Poyson is a
producer who did a lot of Lauren stuff, did a
lot of stuff, played with the roof like eric A Badui,
(50:02):
This incredible producer, pianist.
Speaker 5 (50:04):
We have it. Let's let's check it out.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah, and Kareem Riggins we did that all together. Let's
check this is It's called Victory Media.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
I slipping like it. Victory is the name of the baby.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Shot term.
Speaker 5 (51:22):
That's my ball.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
I like, yo, I mean, I'm gonna tell y'all like
this is one of that for me. It is one
of the first. I got to give it up. James Poison,
Karee Riggins, we co produced that together, the theme song.
But we and back in March we submitted, you know,
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they were taking submissions from different people. Amazon was and man,
we got together in the studio and just started creating that,
like getting our musician cats together and just you know,
putting together this this theme song. And we knew we
wanted it to feel like we wanted to feel nostalgic beforeward,
because you know, it's like Amazon is doing something new
with the NBA, but we still wanted that Earth Went
(52:04):
and fire, but and it needed to be something I
could come to join Zada and we're still like yo,
you know, like you know, so man, we man, you.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Want to know what's so crazy?
Speaker 3 (52:15):
I hit Chicago all over that beat, like I hear
loop A fiasco.
Speaker 5 (52:20):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
I hear all y'all Spitti is here.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
I hear all the Chicago Spitti is just going crazy
on that beat right there, Like that's sick shot town.
Like I said, loop a fiasco. Kanye West. I always
say there was just one guy.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
He was a.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Freestyle Joos Joes, and I would go to see this
guy spit whenever I went to Chicago. I'd be like, Yo,
we're the guy juice at and they'd be like, Yo,
he's they got some ship tonight and you what you
go with? Yo.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Jo was like like it's like almost like a hoop
legend that like that you didn't make it to the league.
Button make it to the league. He was like he was.
I want to give him his love because that man
he was.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
He'd be like he'll sit there freestyle for like through
a whole show, just freestyling, and it'd be good.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like just sitting there bars to death
and you sitting up in there like looking at him
like oh my god and shout out to twist.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Up, twist the man, come on. And we wanted to
bring that, like, we wanted to bring that soul to
that theme song because it's like you bought it, you know,
like the stuff we grew up, you know, point black.
There's some classic joints. The one that we hear earn
on NBC that's the classic, right, so we like.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
You know what to me, this is your version of that.
Nah puts your team made up? I think he made up.
I'm loving it, right, Yeah. For McDonald's do that push
your team made up? I'm loving it. Yeah, that's what
you want. You want this ship to twenty years from
now when they show footage and remember that. That's why
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I know what that is.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
And man, just fit for us, like as black artists
to have a theme song for major sports and that
ain't that ain't happened now, I'm like a thing like
what if you couldn't have.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
Told me of that?
Speaker 7 (54:22):
For them people to let you be a part of
that collectively with the other guys in the people playing
the instruments is a wind fund.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
It's a wind for us.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
It's that we represent us, all of us. Get that.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
It was one of the first guys I called to
try to get you on this box we winded tent
because you got that legendary big you know, I try
to get you know you got whiskeys.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
You ain't got no beer, man? Why you keep looking
at me like I don't want to haven't? Okay, So comic.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Got the beer, he said, I ain't ready for that
right now. I'm like, why fight the time when you
can rewind the talk?
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Big? Why be fifty three when you can be forty two?
Why be forty two when you can be thirty one?
Speaker 4 (55:07):
Mister, mister Rose Royce, I add for your movies, kids,
cat fake, I'm already drinking it the whole movie Sack.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
The press, forty on the fuck three generations, Me by
dad and my son young.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Straight from Puerto Rico, So Lisa so so, straight from
Porto Rico.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
So this we own everything.
Speaker 5 (55:38):
It's all ship we own.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Listen, you're coming by. I'm telling you if you need
the little you know I do. That's the quicker bick
of opa.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
I got great.
Speaker 5 (55:46):
I had me doing that one yo.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
That's what Rose Royce of hair coloring, I'm not bullshit.
It's right, okay.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
You some some black and brown people, they get allergic
to it. I should is sensitive. Pnemona, you're free.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
We thought that everything vegan. It's not vegan. That's stoles
peace version of that.
Speaker 5 (56:05):
I'm saying, so you.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Can't even use it if it ain't vegan. I can't
have got.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Let me tell you something. I throld my birthday party
every year. I might have seventy two mountains of food.
Just there no reason. Everybody you walk by, grab a
grape whatever. It's just too much, right Stoles. He come, yo,
what you got for vegetar vegan?
Speaker 1 (56:30):
That's right for vegan? I go hold on.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
He identifies as plant based, plant based brother, my sister.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
I go in the house and come out with the coconuts,
you know the one you get the spoon with great
the inside with the s I bring them the coconuts
and porters. He said, Wow, Joe, you got these cause
ships ain't from New York.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
They from somewhere. They from Chili, from the.
Speaker 5 (57:00):
A.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
I'm like, I felt so good. I was like, Yo,
I got the coconnuts. Yeah, Joe, you gotta have you
gotta have something for the vegas at the part. Yes,
my body is a flake Griffo.
Speaker 5 (57:17):
I gotta get some of that.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
You always ahead of the time. Make sure y'all get that,
cause I'm coming. I'm gonna be coming with a whole
like not grooming. But that's one of the reasons. Like
it's like I'm going smallils and stuff too and some
natural things.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
So I gotta go run and sick in one CBS
Sally's all over we number one. I just don't talk
about it. We're selling boxes. I find With my first customer,
I went to CBS over there across the street from
the Beverly Center in l A.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
And it was a white guy.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
He had a fucking box in his hand, and I said, Yo,
he didn't even know I'm on a box and nothing
like he was. I was like, yo, you used to
rewind it. He said all the time. If it's good
enough for him, it's good enough for me. He shows
me because you know, we got uh Travis Kelce on
the box turned over and go it's good enough for him,
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it's good enough for me.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
I was like, yes, you got Travis kel.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Travis Brody Jenner, we got Gallet, Nikki jam reggaetone superstar,
like we're not playing.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
We got a white boy called wonder Boy. He was
that UFC. You know we got UFC. You UFC. You
know Trump might not mess with you if you got
one of them on the cover.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
You know what I'm saying. You know that's a stink.
That's we pushed up in the front. My UFC guys
over there, leave us the fuck alone. We don't want
no smoke.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
Ain't that that, ain't this. It's a cracking makes some
noise for her brother coming. Yeah, uh, legend day.
Speaker 5 (59:00):
I appreciate my brother brother.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
I appreciate all. Love y'all.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Mm hm
Man, you practically saved my life.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Get the other fact, yo, Yo, that man really saved
my life.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah yeah, what up y'all? This is Fat Joe the Gangster.
It your boy, Jaden kiss you know what it is?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Did Joe and Jaden's show, Every show legendary, every show iconic,
and you get just what we tell you you're gonna
get today's guests. You think of hip hop and you
think of barge speak on the gard. You think of
a strong black man when you think of morals, principles,
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when you think of craftsmanship, when you think of transitioning
to becoming a very great actor, one of the best
on screen and a voice.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Actor, you think of the South Side of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
That's the right shot town. What's good?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Ladies and gentlemen, give it a five?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Brother comic.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Explos is getting better and better, my brother, better and better.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That that that in show Man, that was a man.
That's that's spoke to my heart. Bro to be honest, man,
I never heard nobody and showed me like that saying
a man of integrity like that. So I want to
say gift. Thanks brother, brother Joe. I'm glad you what
you are.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
No, I'm glad to see you do the real deal, bro,
Thank you brother.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
First of all, in this show, I don't know if
you've been watching, but I count people's pockets. Wow, the
flag off, the off, the nah nah nineteen ninety three.
I mean Cabrini, bring Cabrini green projects.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, people don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Okay, you want to throw your taking flag back, and
don't throw one because I'm gonna tell you real chick.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, let me tell you all right.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I start at Relativity Records, me Common and the beat
Nuts and chi Ali the first artist sign he.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Signed nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
That's cool, he's before me, but we're on the same label.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
So you know how you were seeing Biggie in one
studio in this me and him, we started together like
literally infancy.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like you the second person that known in this whole
industry where the Beatnuts was the first shot out that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like Joe, you the yo yo.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But sir, you don't know how proud it makes me
that this kids that don't even know you rap and
I just see you in movies and see you doing things,
and I'll just be sitting back like wow. And then
I tell guys like him that I started with you.
He throws a flag and.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Tells me I'm capping, and I'm like, no, I really
know here, we really grew up.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Laugh came from saying I don't know if you know
whether or not on.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
This show I Pocket watched.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I watched Pocket. You know what I'm trying to say,
But I watch Hey Joe. But this is the thing.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's two moments in my life, in my career that
I can cite you for and just want to say
thank you. Brothers, Like you don't know what it meant
to me. One was you put me in a video
in your video and is the key to Soety Lena. Yeah, man,
Like you know, pictures come out like once a year.
It's in a pictures like it's gonna be here forever.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I love that man. He was kids in the arm
but you pulled up to the Bronx and I missed
some note that meant something because let him get in
coming from Chicago.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Man, one of the things we wanted was just to
be heard by New York and for you to be
like yo, even though he was on the same label.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
If you if you thought I was on some weak ship,
you've been like, uh, beloved and all for love it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm gonna tell you ship. The second one, well, the
second one we didn't talked about a lot. Man, you
practically saved my life. Get there on the fla, yo, Yo,
that man really saved my life. Like I was out
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on the West Coast with my guy, one of my
guys I knew through one of my close homies, but
he was my guy, and he just wasn't happy with
the whole situation, the whole ice q mac tan beef
that we had told him we had squashed it, were
doing it. We were sitting there doing a commercial. This
was the most money I was getting paid ever for
something at that point in time. Right, So we at
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peace were like, Yo, things is good. Everybody was like God,
just be from Chicago. We just couldn't hold it. He
couldn't hold it. So he started ruffling shit, and man,
it just got a little heated.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And I want to say, Dad, it's not because Fat
Joe's tougher than anybody. I literally begged for your life.
I literally got in the middle, was like, please, he's
my friend, he's my brother, you know, he you know,
some people take things personal. And they finally saw him
and he was on there I saw you and they
(05:46):
was talking crazy and I was like, no way, this guy,
I said, this is literally my brother. And I was
begging them because it was the serious ones. I was like, please,
this is my brother Joe. You know we've been we've
been waiting to catch this guy. I said, listen, I can't.
(06:09):
I just couldn't do I just see And basically I
stood in the middle like please, guys, like I cannot
do it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
But they they set up.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It was over after that day, right after that day.
But you settled that, like like, I'm like, man, we
are on we in California. Don't start nothing my homie already,
cause they already, like you said, they already wanted to
piece on me no matter what.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Because so my guy out there, he just he's just
going off. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I knew Joe. I ain't even hit it, but I
ain't know everything he did. But oh no, he did.
I knew it was him.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
They said, Yo, this can't happen. And because he had
a you know, relation, super relations still my brother and yeah,
shout out to.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
My family. Brotherhood. Family was good. That's when Fat Joe
the gangster. I was like this, this is cause he's
straight up, was like, he can't do that to my man.
It was like like one of the movies was talking
about good fact.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
He once again I begged him. I was in there, Mercy,
and I was just like, please, this is my brother,
this is my family. I did that one time for
Rich playing my best friend. One time they was about
to do it and not saying Rich and I mean
real deal. Well he was getting into it with a
seven headed monster guy who who just kills he's in
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jail for too many bodies, and I had to jump
in the middle and be like, yo, yo, yo, I can't.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's like yo, fat boy, get out the way. I
was like, oh no, I can't. This is my family.
I can't.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I knew what it meant. They real deal and this
other guy's you know, Jeffrey Donald, and I'm and I'm
a monster, and I'm sitting there like, yo, listen, please
let me get in. I said, no, knock him, that
knock him that y'all had yet up there.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But they go. But they go. The men go because
the first argument I ever had with him, right.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
He goes the next day to Rich and they had
blocked on Cyprus and says, if Joe got in the middle.
That means you're good guys. Let's become friends. And they
wound up being best friends. My man is still in
jail thirty seven years. But he went the next day.
He took it on himself, as said, if Fat Joe
threw himself in the middle trying to squash it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
These guys gotta be good guys.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And it was all over, you know, staring at each
other in the club and a couple of girls. And
you know, these guys they kill each other over girls,
These gangsters. Man, a lot of gangsters in jail killing
over girls. I'm telling you I.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Had a guy. This guy was a meaning. He's still
in jail too, forty years, right. He was mean, looking, scared, straight. No, no,
because no, A lot of wars have come over over
over women, most of them.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yo, But listen, this guy. All I'm gonna say to
you is this was a mass murder. He's still in
jail forty years. He would come to the club and
he'd go he's Porto Rican. He'd be like I, and
I'd be like yo, said I. The nanna he's talking by.
His wife was bad as ship to her. She was
fucking dudes like she was loose. So come on then, nah,
(09:25):
you know Jimbo from the barber shop. H yeah, he
was with the net with everybody. If it's ten, got
the no Jimbo, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yes with the net. Net.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Jimbo won't be away the two more days like he
would come all of one time.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I argue with the niggas like A and I said, no,
I don't want to hear that shit. You're a fucking liar.
She's the most decent girl in the world. She didn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
YESA, and everybody knew what that was. Somebody was disappearing
over the net. Not no.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I know maniacs like that. Man, but you know, common man,
you're the beloved of all beloved. Let's keep it peace.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I said.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You know what I said, I didn't see.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
What's that like spoken sage or something.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
It was posted to protect us for that story.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
It's similar to say it's Plasanto's Palisanto. You know it
comes from the trees down in Chili, bringing the good energy,
bringing the good energy, moveative energy.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You know you guys, I know, I know, I know
you in the serious relationship, correct, But you guys, you
nice guys.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You always got the baddest chicks because they think you
nice guys.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You know, comebags, its comeback, you come with a smile.
They don't comment. He's the beloved them all. What a
nice d the beloved of all belovers. And you Polosanto,
you know you know you got that new ship out
there on the streets.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Boy, Yo, you know I gotta say, you know, like
at the end of the day, you know, I've definitely
dated some some beautiful women and amazing women, but I
think you know, it was like they respected me as
a man. They knew I was coming as a man.
I had the the love, but I'm a man too.
It's like I'm gonna lead the way I lead, and
(11:28):
I was giving him that you know that authentic man, Joe,
I'm true, Bro. I don't be trying to like I
ain't gonna act like like nothing for nobody at this
point obviously, but even at that moment, but you just
say you always You've never been like a like a
bullshit and you always been a break shooting like and
no nobody I've been with it's like none of the
(11:51):
women that I like have relationships with go be like
damn that nigga just did me bogus foul like I
had the intecurty.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, I'm a man. I did you know something's wrong?
Speaker 6 (12:01):
You know?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But I'm saying it ain't been bogus where It's just
like I ain't been out there like bogus, And uh,
you know, I'm the type of man. If it ain't working,
I'm gonna say it ain't working, I ain't gonna keep
you going like forever because you got a life. I
got a life. We want to live happy. So yeah, man,
I just I mean that's I guess. Nice guys, do
you know what it ain't?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
How you knowing it ain't work? What do you want
me do?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Jada, we had a real life ship.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
We're trying to help. Somebody's in the struggle right now.
Somebody watching this ship. They don't know whether they want
to be together or not. Maybe he can give us
some knowledge and maybe it's time to move on or
stay strong.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean, King, seek seek the King doing all, so
be at it. You gotta seek the King. No man,
listen man, Jada just said it. Man, I'll be like man,
I try to listen to God most of the foremost
all like that's in everything I do. And especially the
most important things in life, where it's like career, my purpose,
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a relationship, dealing with my family, dealing with how I'm
gonna go speak on something like if I get an
opportunity to speak to people, Man, I'm always going seeking
the Kingdom first. So I think in a relationship it's
important that.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
The reason why I feel happy and great in the
relationship with Jennifer is Man, God is first, and we
just building from there. We're not perfect human beings, but
we communicating, we growing. We like just trying to be
the best children of the most High and still have
fun too, Like you could be God.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
And I know you ready with your intellectual questions. But
let's go back to Jennifer. The reason why I love
her so much besides her being so talented, but the
hard things she's been through in life, and to see
her just keep a chin up and walk through the
fire and still be strong and still be you know,
that's what I respect about humans the most. He's the
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adversity you have to overcome and the tough times and
all that, and then her, you know, she had the
toughest man.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean, I don't know if it's getting no tougher
than I don't get so don't get no tough.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I've never been able to tell her that because you know,
I sit next to her and all the games and
all that, and you know we always have it fun
when I see her.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
But they you know, she's like, man, you know, she's
a gee. She would appreciate that, man.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And I gotta say, that's one of the things that
I was like, Man, how this person got still got light?
Light after all like losing dealing with what she dealt with.
I'm like for her to have light and be good
to people and like just still be bright about life.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
That's that's that's strong. But warriors, that's just a different
type of Yeah. But yeah, that's what it is. I mean,
I ain't the relationship expert, but.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I want to know, what was it the South Side
of Chicago, Like e nineties, eighties and nineties, Man, Chicago,
a lot of our people are from the South, so
we got something that's rooted in the South, but it's
but it's really Chicago is a city, so we got
that that movement of a city and the slickness and
the culture.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But growing up it was like I experienced everything from
black church to liquor stores, gang bang cultures like no matter,
I don't care how smart you or whatever you're gonna
be around game bang culture.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We hoops like there's just nowhere around it. It's the
one city.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Well La too, because I've seen grandmothers in all red
cars with red seats with red tires.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Principles is schools coming in red suits and blue suits. Yo.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
They I didn't speaking to mac ten and them. I'm
out there shooting the movie with them. I'm thinking of
water and Grandmother's is all red and Principles and Schools
is coming and the cops is throwing this ship up.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I'm like, it's it's like.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
That in Chicago with everyone is pretty much.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
How did you escape?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I grew up with around stone, blackstones and four corner
hustles and vice lords and that's who I was with.
And man, that's what it is. I mean, I don't
mean I have like friends, that was folks or whatever,
but overall, I guess I escaped it because I started
feeling like I had something to live for. So I
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wasn't going too deep into that, but I you know,
me and my guys, that's how we had to make
it to a certain degree. But just like we know
the stories from I don't care if you know it's
the b X, I don't care if it's young because
if it's if it's Atlanta, if it's you know, La.
When people start seeing you doing something, they support you,
like you coming from the hood, they like man, especially
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doing something good, they kind of wrap their arms around
you and be like, we ain't gonna let nobody get
to this cat.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So I mean, I was part of it. And then man, blessings,
man like what you just talked about.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I could I could have not been here all they
been around stuff and I could have not been here,
But you know best about it most.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Now back to the first flag he threw at me.
He's why I said, counting pockets. Right.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I meet you ninety ninety two, ninety three, and I
go to Chicago with you, right and with sitting down.
This is when Chicago it wasn't even a downtown. It
was just the real Chicago, the good times Chicago. And
I remember sitting out there with you and you was like, yo,
I'm buying all the properties and you were telling me
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your grandfather had properties and he taught you how to
buy properties and why I counted your money because I
said this, man, I'm just buying a chain a call hooty,
and you was buying properties at that time.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
But man, really it was my mother who was really
the like my father used to say to me, get
the land, get the land. I ain't grown up with
my father, but when he was, she would say certain things,
you know, to be like get the lamb, man, they
can't take the lamb from well.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
My mother was like, as soon as I started, like
first album.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I ain't really make no money. I'm trying to, you know, survive, right,
none of us right, maybe.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Only a freir head full out of They went and
bought a kilo with their advance.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
The good story, all right.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I'm just trying to let you know they had a
side of us. And while rapping, I mean, that's what hey,
that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
We wouldn't make it.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
But but my second album, my mother saw that I
was like getting somewhere, like just more than more than
what you know, like I had before, and just she
you know, she was like, man, you don't know how
long it's gonna last. Man, you should invest in some property.
And I was like, man, that's good. I started doing it,
and then she was she was She was the one
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that schooled me. And then I got a friend named
Moe who got into real estate, who started breaking it
down even more so that's when I really started getting
in properties and are seeing the value.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I mean, I really honestly wish early on.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I was up on like investing in because I got
all on the health ship early like the health.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Like got down with this. We would have been we
would have been franchising.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
We would have been franchised. I came to the opening
of y'all in Brooklyn. Yo, you know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I'm gonna start smoking this Piscato thing. What's the ship here?
You always ahead of time. I don't smoke, but this ship. Look,
I might have to buy some of that stock. Could
have pid man, what's the call Bylocano?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Cause you always haaded a curve on everything that fole
of South.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
They're gonna make some money, for sure. We got to invest.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I'm gonna come up with my own first, you know,
I be on some wellness that we're looking you, huh.
Maybe it's gotta come from South America. Yeah, it's gonna
be a good one.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Be a good yeah, because I got I got to
now fast forward.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
How does it feel the when every goddamn a walk
and I feel good whenever I see when thank you
because I.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Know what you stand for, what you represent, where you
come from. When they when they let one of us
in and you just dominate the way you've been doing.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Me feel man, I love that because for us right
So when like, let me tell you, when I'm up there,
I feel like I'm representing us because we all, we
all the tribe, man, Like, we know where we've come from,
we know what we do, We've been through it together.
We ain't got to see each other all the time
to know we just we're from.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
We just we know the tribe. Bro, we love each other.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So when I'm out there, man, I ain't gonna from
when I was on the Oscar stage, I felt like
I was represented. I was representing gods, black men, brown men,
black people like hip hop Chicago. It was a lot
that that I felt like, Yo, this is this is
what I'm this is why I'm up here, and my ancestors.
(21:05):
I felt all of that, and I'm like, I'm so grateful.
Did you feel that way? Because I'm like, man, when
I see y'all doing. I came in and said, man,
I'm proud of y'all. Man, it's just like what y'all doing.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Man, this is like it. It offers so much to
people people who like needed. We need it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
We need to We need the fund, we need the joy,
we need the wisdom. We need to come in like
in an authentic way. So to see us us like
just man, it was ninety three ninety two, Bro, ninety
ninety two Bro. So to see us like finding ways
and real ways to actually impact life and culture and
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be doing great things and taking care of our loved
ones and families. And you know, y'all rather you know
the same way. I feel like we all want. Now
I'm gonna tell you crazy things. I wrote my first
ever positive song right now.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You don't remember this. You know I'm game.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
It's the fat jaw smack your baby at the Christian
and I'm doing you know, I'm I talking all this
crazy shit. And I made one positive song and I
went to you, I Seek the Kingdom, Never Forget, and
I played it for you. I felt like the old
Common is gonna love this shit. It's a positive song
and I played it for you. It was like that's Joe, Joe,
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what the rest of the album sound like? Like you
wanted that sho I came with the Least Black Man,
this stunt il Can from the Million Man and he
was like, Yojoe was up with the rest of the holbur.
I was like, yeah, yeah, the album is hog. I
came to you with the positive joint like I thought.
Com was like, yes, now you want that Joe crack
(22:43):
fat Gangster ship. No.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
But but you know it was at the end of
the day, you were showing the evolution. But sometimes it's like,
you know, we all climb and go our way. We
grow in our own ways when it's time.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, for me, it's like positivity ain't gotta be like, oh,
preaching me. I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't like that in movies. I don't like it
in music. I don't like it in church. I don't
like me either, Like I don't like the judgment. I
don't like his self rightous. I don't like man, I'm
conscious now you know, like you was doing the goodness
out there to be honest, even if you know, like
you know what I'm saying, like bringing bringing me on
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that that in itself.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
But I feel like, you know, I kind of remember
when you played that joy but I what that joke.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
But you know what happens, You know, somebody like carr
us One who had the machine gun in the cover,
and we think it's coming again. He's air planes laying
and it's overseas, people dying, politics is lying. I'm trying
not to escape. That ship was like a fucking a
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rose blooming. I remember how to train. I had to
walk in and I played that ship and he was like,
plan's flying overseas, people dying, politicians lying, I'm trying And
I was like, it was like a rose.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I was like, Yo, what the fuck is this? Yo? Man?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Cal rust, kill us want and hip hop and itself
at that time too. Man taught me so much about
who I am as a person. This stuff I ain't no, like,
I ain't know like even what he was just talking about.
It just certain things about Africa that I all bench
just and Benica, Man, why is that?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Sing yoh?
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Why is that? He was going?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
He was creating and there even to be able to
break down the books of the Bible when he was
Abraham was the father of Isaac Isaac was.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
The father of Jacob. Jacob had twelve sons. For real
the needs for the children of Israel.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I'm like man to get us to be singing that
and rapping that like man, that dude just elevated us
all man hip hop being at that time teacher man
the teacher, and he made it sound But that's when
talk about like he made that joint sound good.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Like I had to get to that. I had.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It was a point where in my in my music
and career where I felt like I was getting stuff
and I wanted to spread the word. But it was
too it was too like self right, it was too like,
you know, you gotta find a balance. Life is a balance.
So it's like, you know me growing up, he was
my hero, my idol still is.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
But kros One was God in the Bronx, right, and
then Fat Joe Yes became the new like you know
the dawn, We're going double platinum, We on fire. I
used to walk the streets with Charris One. Everybody teach
the teacher look at me like, you know, you know,
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we attitudes. And I asked him one day, I said, yo,
I said, yo, Chris, how come everybody comes up to
you smiling with the teach. The teacher and then look
at you. He said, that's easy a rap about positivity
and unity. You wrap around gangster shit, they gonna make
you prove you a gangster every time out here. Me
(26:06):
did just smile. I posed no threat. I was like wow,
that shit was so deep for me at the time
where it was like yo, he's like yo. They look
at me like this is the unified. They look at
you like yo, you still fout Joe the gangster out here.
So dude, that's when we went right back to the
studio and killed some more people.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
That's a fact more babies at than Christian. But that's
what for me, I knew, like, okay, man, I wasn't
selling a lot of records, Joe. You know. I remember
walking into Relativity Records and it was I tell people
this story, it was it was Bone Thugs.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
At Harmony, Fat Joe.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I don't know if the rough House Riders will performing
like Fat Joe and sold maybe twenty thousand this week,
but Bone Thugs are sold forty thousand this week.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I sold five thousand.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So it was like that board let me know like
the priority of the label and what was going to
be put into my career. So I knew that, Man,
I gotta go on my truth no matter what in
state who I am because record sales wasn't it for me?
Like to be honest, Like I mean, I did have
some great ones at times, but some good ones, but
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overall it was like, Man, my integrity of what you're saying,
like just putting positivity out there, putting creativity out there
and putting that light out there as what to the
end of the day, some people ask me, man, why
are you still doing it?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
That's why I'm doing it. Yeah. The passion of.
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Speaker 3 (29:23):
I'm gonna try to speed this story, but it's just
too relevant and it's a very motivational story. I said,
when when I do motivational speaking, we have relativity.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Meed you to be nuts Chia.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I lead, and they shooting five thousand dollars videos for us, right,
but we think of relativity. Ain't look fancy and nothing.
We think we on the come up and they run in.
Alan Grumblack runs in with a video and he says, y'all,
I want to show y'all, want to show you there's
a group I just signed, a group I just signed
and he puts it in and this boom, thugs in
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harmony floating in the air. This this is not seeing yo, Allen.
This took stuck a million dollar video. He turned to
run and said, it is a million dollar video. We
spend a million dollars on this. At that moment, I
knew they didn't believe in me like they believed in
bone thugs, because it takes money to make money. So
I turned around and told everybody, yo, we gotta go.
(30:22):
And I remember some rappers just like Yo Joe, we
got chains, we got cars, apartment.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I was like, Yo, they don't believe in us. They
just spend a million dollars. And at that moment. That's
when I left Relativity.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It was scary because I did have a chain of
call apartment in thras Neck, and I just went and
no longer than six months later, I signed Terror Squad
records with Atlantic.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
They gave me a million something dollars.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Right, I only had two thousand in my bank account
with a gold chain and a call have Relativity. But
I say, in everybody's life, whether you abuse, you're a farmer,
you at whatever it is. I feel like there's this
invisible train that comes in front of you. It's to
train the opportunity. But it seems so risky, but you
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gotta have faith in believing yourself and jump.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
On that train. And I jumped on that train.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Maybe six months after that I signed Big pun So
we was really on a raw, but I remember that
happened when they showed me that Bone Thugs video.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And by the way, Bone Thugs I love, y'all. The
theft was about listen. I missed my uncle Charles U
y'all you know my uncle Charles too, God bless you
know Fry. I fuck up my own lyrics was last week? Well,
I called them my list my uncle Georgia. Let me
tell you.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I gotta tell you something. Joe Buttons. I see him
at the Nick game last night. He asked me one
on one on the side, he said, your joke, say
the truth. You really thought it was Uncle George. You
really thought it was Uncle George and you was trolling.
I was like, y'all, I'm I'm fine, man, I really
said Uncle. I really threw the set Uncle George.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
It was I get my own lyrics fucked up. I know.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
They put me on the start like when you do
TV shows and be like all right, you gotta go,
and it's just a TV chair.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'd be like, oh my god, my own songs. They
heard something her important. Put that train.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I hear you on that train, like that visible train,
that visit trainer. For me, that's where acting became for me,
Like like acting was like.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Jay.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
It was like I hit a ceiling with music for
a minute, like where I was like, and what am
I gonna do? Like cause I was like driving to
do some super hotsy ship and I'm like, man, these
niggas eating my I released this album called Electric Circus.
It was out there in fact Primo I went on
to a gang style. He was like, man, I ain't
like this albumntil we started performing, so I staw you
performing on and I understand it more. But it was
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like one of those things where I was just like, man,
I'm trying to trying to blossom and do something something else.
And then I was trying different things.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Man. I went to acting class and then man, that
was that train for.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Me, that invisible trainer, Like like, man, man, I love this.
It's something I can work at the craft.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I can. I can do this because I wanted to
do it when I was younger.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I was in the play when I was younger, and
my mother I was in the play, and I you know,
after I finished the play, my mother kept talking about
how good Derek ma Homie was in the play.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Oh he was good. He was a Derek is my brother,
my god. And that's day one. So Jay I was like,
I was like, I wasn't no good. Yeah, I wasn't
no good. Like what's up?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
So then anyway, I fast forward when I got the
opportunity to go to acting class, I was like, man,
this is it for me. I love acting as much
as I love music. I mean, music hit me in
a different place, but I love acting just as much.
You know what I mean, and across the.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Screen, bro, this great.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
You know I like gangster. I'm gonna skip a bunch
of ship is gonna get mad at me. But John
fucking they told you today you was in john Wick.
You knew that ship was gonna be ill right. You
was like, y'all, I'm gonna be on john Wick. Yo.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
But what's crazy, though, is you know that was I
was in john Wick two. So we filmed it in
New York and then it'll I thought it.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Was like though, man, it was you. It was like, yeah,
we was in Italy for some past us y'all bumped
into each other. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Ing.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
God. I love man the people that that checked out
John Wick.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Man. That blow my mind, man, cause I'll be getting
to cars like you said, some people don't know I
wrap I getting the uber the dude like, Yo, I
know you from somewhere.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I know. One thing they don't know is that your
common sense? Oh no, they definitely don't know. Yo. My
daughter looks at me like I'm a dinosaur. I'd be like, yo,
common sense.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
She'd be like his name is calm and Dad like come,
I said, no, that's common sense, No, Dad, it's cart.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You sound like a dinosaur.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You sound like I'm like, Yo, that's common sense. Yo, man,
they don't know what I ain't gonna front. I was surprised.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I just did this whole campaign with BMW and they
was like, man, we want the campaign to be a
say it's common sense. I was like, hey, y'all know
how y'all know about that. It's somebody in there that
new the new Like that's what the campaign is. It's
common sense. I said, damn, I'm gonna do this week.
We made it fly too. But it was like, bro,
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like a lot of people don't know I be in
call like I was.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I'd be. I like to write in the car sometime,
like just riding around. So I was in there the car.
I was in Boston.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
This driver, this dude of the young dude, he was like,
I was, you know, I put in my music and
started playing on rapping and stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
He was like, comment, I ain't know you wrapped. I
was like, yeah, I had that argument. I've had that
argument about you.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
That means you a great actor.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Man.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
I'm grateful they see you in that space and it
overpowered this space that they didn't know about.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
We gotta go to I used to love him.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Okay, okay, you knew that was like a lean back
when when you finished that bitch, you was like, oh,
I knocked this shit out, though, Paul, Like, what was
making I used to love it?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Where did that come from? What was the exception of
that idea?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Because to this day, I mean, we did it in
so many Big l did the Bondics to this. Everybody
did some version of it. But that was like the
epitome man.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Whenever God dropped that idea into my spirit, bro I was,
I was geek. I just know no idea made this
dope beat. He was dopey except George shoutout killed yo.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I was sitting at home.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
My homies had just left the crib and I was
staying with my guy Soign we had we had a
crib together like an apartment, and I was sitting up.
It was two in the morning. I just had that
beat playing. I was like, man, what if I made
hip hop or woman? And then I just started writing
and you used to take me. I don't know how
for y'all, but sometimes I'll be taking I'll be taking
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a wilder right attack. In the days they took way
back in the day. It used to be like you
need busting you, but yo, rain to come up with
some show. That one started coming to me. And then
I started, you know, just understanding the metaphor not understanding,
but just getting into the metaphor of it and taking
it through the through the whole ride, and I was like,
(37:31):
I ain't gonna fuck.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
I was.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I did feel like this is this is something way
through you was like, yo, this is some ship right
like as that ship start calling you, like yo, yo.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Man, I was like yo.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
And then by the time I got to the third
verse and it was like summing it up and got
to who I'm talking about, y'all this hip hop? I
was like, man, I knew that it could have something.
It could hit somebody because when I was in that
studio laying it, my guy, I said was he was.
He was like I could see him through the booth.
I was sitting there rapping and uh, you know we're young,
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so he like, you're going here girl?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
He like, y know, he like, why are you doing
this love song? Even't want to, you know, he like
doing a love song like this. As soon as I said,
we'll talk about challis hip hop and ni grabbed his head.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Like, Oh, you want to know what's crazy is when
you came in here, I know how much you love
ill Matic and so we're doing some ell matic and
similar I used to love her to ill matic is.
Over the years, every time I heard I used to love,
I picked up something new and I learned something new,
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and I was just like, Yo, this ship gets better.
You know, like ill mading, you can still like right
now we all could have rapped and didn't know the
word the right word right quarter body halfway Houston? What
the fuck he meant with quarter body got for Houston,
head for Houston, head for Houston, called her body.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Body had for us? Yeah, you know it's like so
you could keep like That's how the lover was for me.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Like every time I heard it, I would hear something
new and something new and be like, oh ship, that
shit crazy?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yo? What what? What hit me? Too?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Was like man, that was the first time I really
started like I remember, you know, back back in those days,
you would have like people give you a quote for
your album. Biggie gave me a quote and like I
was like, damn, I'm actually getting.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Respect from you know, more and more people.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
But then that movie Brown Sugar came out and Brown
Sugar was based on I Used to Love Her and
wow do that it was based on I used to
love her. That writer shout out to him, Michael Elliott.
He had come to me to write something, like write
some movie stuff with him, but I was like a
little bit, you know, I ain't know how to do that.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Were just moving, you know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Just so he ended up writing Brown Sugar Boom. Then
me and Erica, Me and Erka Badu did a song
four brown Sugar, which was Loving My Life based on
I Used to Love.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
You.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
So I was like it was it was one of
those things that kept evolving in a way, like that song,
and it was just seed that.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah see that.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Sheeps growing and you know what's crazy is but being
that you're saying that, I'm just you know, I was
supposed to be in the movie Chef.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I was supposed to be people's on you know the
actors are big, big yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay yo,
Rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
John Singleton he was coming to Jimmy's Bronze Cafe every
Friday trying to convince me to be in Shaft.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
But we was too much on that party, like a
rock star. We was like, give it.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
We ain't give a fuck with young rich rat niggas
big punt double plat. We don't give on fuck. He's
John Singleton was in the trenches. He was with me
in Washington Heights and fucking bummy apartment house, but he
had no business being there. Like, Yo, Joe, I got
this role. You could be People's because you know what's
my man? That the famous actor he played people He's
(41:10):
You see how he was speaking with the Spanish site.
He ain't staying no, no no. From that Joe was
supposed to be people, Bro, you turn that road down.
Dumb motherfucker. The dumb motherfucker. Every time I watched that movie.
It was supposed to be in glory, all right.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I believe what's something that happened to you? That you
had an opportunity?
Speaker 3 (41:32):
And he was like, fuck dad, I'm gonna stay in
d block yonk this, I ain't doing that ship. But
now when you look back, you're like, damn, I should
have did that.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
You got somebody you gotta give up.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
The last thing of Power, the last episode of Power,
last season.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Of Baising Kennan, I had to take my wife to
the usher sure, I tell you that that back I
couldn't get a private.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
It wasn't meant to be. It was one of them
be sad or be happy?
Speaker 3 (42:05):
You know how big that raising tailand was it the
shout out to one of the another Onevie?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I saw you at the Usher show that or you
was there too, Vegas. You know you go to Usher man,
you gotta he forced you to do the greatest hits.
Like I'm over there trying to go. All I want
is two free tickets. Right, it turned in, It turned
it of cost you more man, my brother, fat yo,
the light come like us and then you don't stay sick?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
And you got another word? Then it thow another one,
another one another. I'm like, ship is this the Fats
mars Is?
Speaker 5 (42:40):
Make you do a little concert? DJs? My god, it's
a honor your bucket, my bucket.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
You love basketball, yes, sir, played in the high school.
Was a ball boy for the Chicago Bulls from eleven
to thirteen.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
That m J NBA.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
He's seen NBA, He's seen Jordan's debut.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Right said things. First, I got to picture that front.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I might be putting them on blast, but I think
calib was a boy boy for Orlando Magic Too. I
never heard him say that before. But and Nick Anderson
all that Dennis Scott boy, he played the nd A
star in the movie.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
I would have hell with that. How did that fit?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah? That was bro. That mean movie that we love Basket,
I know you love That was my life was bro.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
That was like a dream, a dream, dreams and dream
inside of dream because that was my first lead role.
And then I'm playing a basketball player and I'm like,
in the movie I'm calling it, I'm playing against the Wade.
I'm like, damn, I'm trying. I'm trying to. Really, I
couldn't do nothing with him though.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Strong.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
And then once I was I was driving, you know,
the same was like, y'all keep keep I was supposed
to score over with dwhite House song, He's sake, I'm
scoring over. And then just about the third take, he
just smacked that ship. I'll show you what I really
do to this ship. I said, damn. But it was, man,
that was amazing. That was an amazing experience. Queen Latifa,
I got to give her love man because she, you know,
(44:19):
the producers, was looking at other people and then she
was like, I think he can do it. And the
producers really believed in and I had a tough time
on that movie because it was my first lead. So
they at one point, man, they was thinking about kicking
me off because I wasn't getting the scenes right and man,
it was crucial. And then I did this one scene
and they and they ended up being like, okay, cool,
(44:41):
And it wasn't even you know, it's like the story
you hear about. I mean, I ain't gonna put myself
on that level, but the story you hear about al
Pacino and Godfather, you know how.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I ain't hear it from the Bronx. From the Bronx,
that's right. That man is.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
That man?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Man, it's me. But listen, hear this all al Pacino.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
While they was filming The Godfather, the studio wasn't really
happy with his work.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
They was like this dude ain't delivered. So as Michael
as Michael.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
So the director he decided to move that scene up
where he and you know where he where he first
shoot them, dude, where the gun is in the bathroom
or you're the cop, yeah, the cop. He moved that
scene up because you know they were watching. You know,
when you're filming the movie, you get to watch what
they call delies. You're watching at what y'all shoot every day.
So he said, I gotta move this scene up so
(45:36):
they can see how cold this dude is. And they
see they move that scene up, like.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
They said, make sure you throw the gun.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
That's a menzo and them they told him to throw
the gun. Gun yo, wipe and dad throw the done.
He threw the gun.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Joe just him.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
The tension when he's sitting there, when he's sitting there
with them, Yeah, the tension right there, like oh man,
man shout out where.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
They beat him up.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
He's ship he had the his ship was broken jaw
and he said down you understand this and that when
in the bathroom killed him. But I gotta tell you
something about Queen Latifa. Queen our teeth is in the
studio with Coolan Dre.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
One day I'm hanging out with that. She looks at
me for.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
No reason, says, well, you think you fucked tough? She
pulls the knife out. You got the She chased me
around the studio with the knife. Come here, motherfucker, You
ain't that tough. She had one of those You ain't
that tough, motherfucker? She starts chasing me around the studio.
I said you a lot of tief. Please, Queen, please,
(46:36):
you don't play that ship. She's chasing me. She gotta
I chase that Joe out the studio story. I'm telling
you she did it in real lights. You know they
say it's the Puerto Ricans. Everybody got a knife in
New York.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
Y'all, you gotta keep the AWKOI when new projects you
got coming.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I'm working on this TV serious for Apples called Silo.
Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
They check that out, like right, yeah, it's fresh man,
it's really fresh enough. My man Tim Robbins is starring
in it. Tim Robins from Shawshank Redemption and uh like
missed Mixed the River and this woman Rebecca Ferguson some
dope ass actors and dope actors and the story is mean,
it's dope.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
What's your top five rappers turn actors?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
That's a question. That's a great question that Will Smith
gotta be. Will there you, Queen Latifa? Most depth? That
man was mean, No, No, sixteen blocks, sixteen blocks.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Yo, he'll quit rap, he'll quit act I don't know
where most depths.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Three.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Let's go eat and bar salon and chilling shut under.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yes, sir, shout out to yes, I love you. That
man is he is one of the three? Okay, I
got you, uh.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Will Smith, Queenie most that I'm gonna go ice cube.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
That's four. And then.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Damn who else? Who else is out there? Oh? There
you go? Thank you. I was I wasn't go put
myself Tupac was caked.
Speaker 5 (48:19):
You did?
Speaker 1 (48:20):
You definitely in there? You know we don't like this.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
You know our era don't put ourselves in ship. Put
you in there morning. This was my first movie.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Man, That's fire. That was so good to get.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
That's the first movie I did, Joe, and then like
man that was my first call back. You know, I've
been auditioning, auditioning, and some of the some of the
movies I was going for, they didn't even want to
see me because I was a musician. They like one
to THEE, Yeah, how we good on that? And in fact,
because they had already had Alisia Keys in the movie.
The director was like, I don't know if I want
(48:52):
to see him, but the cast director was like check
him out. So I did the tape and then they
they called me back. I was so gig man my
first all back and I was flying from doing a show.
I landed and went into the audition. Man, I felt that.
I was like, you know, I'm about to like this
shit up. And I did it maybe about a couple
About three weeks later, the director.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Called me like, Yo, you got the job. You got
the job. Like I was crying. I called my mother.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Then I had to go tell Kanye, like, YO, can't
go on this tour. Man, I got a movie and
he was like, man, do your thing, do your dream, brother, dude,
do what you gotta do. I was like, thank you,
appreciate you. That was my first movie, brother, all right
and everything to me?
Speaker 5 (49:34):
The look back. You just got the theme for Prime
for the NBA, and we saw it.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
I saw that, bro, let me tell you, I saw that. Hey,
as we said, I'm representing us. I feel like man
to be able to have the theme song like for
the NBA. What on Prime out? You could have never
told me like me. James Poyser James Poyson is a
producer who did a lot of Lauren stuff, did a
lot of stuff, played with the roof like eric A Badui,
(50:02):
This incredible producer, pianist.
Speaker 5 (50:04):
We have it. Let's let's check it out.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah, and Kareem Riggins we did that all together. Let's
check this is It's called Victory Media.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
I slipping like it. Victory is the name of the baby.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Shot term.
Speaker 5 (51:22):
That's my ball.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
I like, yo, I mean, I'm gonna tell y'all like
this is one of that for me. It is one
of the first. I got to give it up. James Poison,
Karee Riggins, we co produced that together, the theme song.
But we and back in March we submitted, you know,
(51:43):
they were taking submissions from different people. Amazon was and man,
we got together in the studio and just started creating that,
like getting our musician cats together and just you know,
putting together this this theme song. And we knew we
wanted it to feel like we wanted to feel nostalgic beforeward,
because you know, it's like Amazon is doing something new
with the NBA, but we still wanted that Earth Went
(52:04):
and fire, but and it needed to be something I
could come to join Zada and we're still like yo,
you know, like you know, so man, we man, you.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Want to know what's so crazy?
Speaker 3 (52:15):
I hit Chicago all over that beat, like I hear
loop A fiasco.
Speaker 5 (52:20):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
I hear all y'all Spitti is here.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
I hear all the Chicago Spitti is just going crazy
on that beat right there, Like that's sick shot town.
Like I said, loop a fiasco. Kanye West. I always
say there was just one guy.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
He was a.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Freestyle Joos Joes, and I would go to see this
guy spit whenever I went to Chicago. I'd be like, Yo,
we're the guy juice at and they'd be like, Yo,
he's they got some ship tonight and you what you
go with? Yo.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Jo was like like it's like almost like a hoop
legend that like that you didn't make it to the league.
Button make it to the league. He was like he was.
I want to give him his love because that man
he was.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
He'd be like he'll sit there freestyle for like through
a whole show, just freestyling, and it'd be good.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like just sitting there bars to death
and you sitting up in there like looking at him
like oh my god and shout out to twist.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Up, twist the man, come on. And we wanted to
bring that, like, we wanted to bring that soul to
that theme song because it's like you bought it, you know,
like the stuff we grew up, you know, point black.
There's some classic joints. The one that we hear earn
on NBC that's the classic, right, so we like.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
You know what to me, this is your version of that.
Nah puts your team made up? I think he made up.
I'm loving it, right, Yeah. For McDonald's do that push
your team made up? I'm loving it. Yeah, that's what
you want. You want this ship to twenty years from
now when they show footage and remember that. That's why
(54:07):
I know what that is.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
And man, just fit for us, like as black artists
to have a theme song for major sports and that
ain't that ain't happened now, I'm like a thing like
what if you couldn't have.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
Told me of that?
Speaker 7 (54:22):
For them people to let you be a part of
that collectively with the other guys in the people playing
the instruments is a wind fund.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
It's a wind for us.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
It's that we represent us, all of us. Get that.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
It was one of the first guys I called to
try to get you on this box we winded tent
because you got that legendary big you know, I try
to get you know you got whiskeys.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
You ain't got no beer, man? Why you keep looking
at me like I don't want to haven't? Okay, So comic.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Got the beer, he said, I ain't ready for that
right now. I'm like, why fight the time when you
can rewind the talk?
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Big? Why be fifty three when you can be forty two?
Why be forty two when you can be thirty one?
Speaker 4 (55:07):
Mister, mister Rose Royce, I add for your movies, kids,
cat fake, I'm already drinking it the whole movie Sack.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
The press, forty on the fuck three generations, Me by
dad and my son young.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Straight from Puerto Rico, So Lisa so so, straight from
Porto Rico.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
So this we own everything.
Speaker 5 (55:38):
It's all ship we own.
Speaker 4 (55:39):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Listen, you're coming by. I'm telling you if you need
the little you know I do. That's the quicker bick
of opa.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
I got great.
Speaker 5 (55:46):
I had me doing that one yo.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
That's what Rose Royce of hair coloring, I'm not bullshit.
It's right, okay.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
You some some black and brown people, they get allergic
to it. I should is sensitive. Pnemona, you're free.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
We thought that everything vegan. It's not vegan. That's stoles
peace version of that.
Speaker 5 (56:05):
I'm saying, so you.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Can't even use it if it ain't vegan. I can't
have got.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Let me tell you something. I throld my birthday party
every year. I might have seventy two mountains of food.
Just there no reason. Everybody you walk by, grab a
grape whatever. It's just too much, right Stoles. He come, yo,
what you got for vegetar vegan?
Speaker 1 (56:30):
That's right for vegan? I go hold on.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
He identifies as plant based, plant based brother, my sister.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
I go in the house and come out with the coconuts,
you know the one you get the spoon with great
the inside with the s I bring them the coconuts
and porters. He said, Wow, Joe, you got these cause
ships ain't from New York.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
They from somewhere. They from Chili, from the.
Speaker 5 (57:00):
A.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
I'm like, I felt so good. I was like, Yo,
I got the coconnuts. Yeah, Joe, you gotta have you
gotta have something for the vegas at the part. Yes,
my body is a flake Griffo.
Speaker 5 (57:17):
I gotta get some of that.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
You always ahead of the time. Make sure y'all get that,
cause I'm coming. I'm gonna be coming with a whole
like not grooming. But that's one of the reasons. Like
it's like I'm going smallils and stuff too and some
natural things.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
So I gotta go run and sick in one CBS
Sally's all over we number one. I just don't talk
about it. We're selling boxes. I find With my first customer,
I went to CBS over there across the street from
the Beverly Center in l A.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
And it was a white guy.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
He had a fucking box in his hand, and I said, Yo,
he didn't even know I'm on a box and nothing
like he was. I was like, yo, you used to
rewind it. He said all the time. If it's good
enough for him, it's good enough for me. He shows
me because you know, we got uh Travis Kelce on
the box turned over and go it's good enough for him,
(58:07):
it's good enough for me.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
I was like, yes, you got Travis kel.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Travis Brody Jenner, we got Gallet, Nikki jam reggaetone superstar,
like we're not playing.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
We got a white boy called wonder Boy. He was
that UFC. You know we got UFC. You UFC. You
know Trump might not mess with you if you got
one of them on the cover.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
You know what I'm saying. You know that's a stink.
That's we pushed up in the front. My UFC guys
over there, leave us the fuck alone. We don't want
no smoke.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
Ain't that that, ain't this. It's a cracking makes some
noise for her brother coming. Yeah, uh, legend day.
Speaker 5 (59:00):
I appreciate my brother brother.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
I appreciate all. Love y'all.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Mm hm
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