July 29, 2025 • 56 mins
On today's episode, Fat Joe and Jadakiss take a look back at the rise of southern hip hop during the 1990s, 2000s, and all the way up to the present day. They pay homage to southern rappers like Lil Wayne, Andre 3000 and Big Boi of OutKast, Master P, Pimp C and Bun B of UGK, Scarface, Future, and many more who shook the landscape of hip hop culture. Joe and Jada debate which southern artists had the most influence on New York hip hop, whether trap music originated with T.I. or Young Jeezy, and the top rappers from different regions like Atlanta, Miami, and Texas. Joe also tells the story of how he forced Scott Storch to lace the "Make It Rain" beat with dirty south drums after he realized the sound was sweeping the nation.
7:00 - Most influential '90s southern rap labels
13:30 - Which southern rappers influenced NYC most?
21:30 - How "Make It Rain" was made
31:00 - Top 5 Miami rappers
50:00 - Ben Simmons to Knicks?
1:02:00 - Rap money ISN'T athlete money
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I'm like, nah, nah, nah, she ain't dancing to
it yet, she ain't dancing to it. Ain't. Finally threw
the drums where I saw her by the speaker, you know,
doing this, and I was like, that's it. That's when
I knew the whole sound was changing. I said, Yo,
they got the whole country in the choco. Yo. What
(00:29):
up y'artist? Your boy? Yo, crap, your boy Jada kiss?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is the Joe and Jaden Show. Don't get it
fucked up. Let me tell you something. They want you
to do good. Kiss, They just don't want you to
live next to him.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Won't let that go over your heads, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So your friends they might want you to do good,
they don't want you to live next to them. So
if they make a hundred dollars, they want you to
make ninety. They never want you to make a hundred ten.
I never gave a fuck like with me, realistically, I
guess hip hop was competition. But to me, like, you know,
somebody came in the game raw, So anybody came in
(01:10):
the game, I showed them love like unconditional, like I
never really like looked at nobody like, oh, they the
competition on that level or nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
If you get a billion dollars, if you get a
billion sales, if you get it a heavy feed. But
with this particular game and this particular time, alle oops
ain't ain't something that you're not throwing. Alley oops is
not favors are not easy to come by in And
(01:42):
it's not even that this game is really fucked up
because you might do you might show up every time
they call you, and the reciprocation, ain't it?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I mean you agree, Yeah, well, I realized because you
get high and most of the times I have a
children that you was at a show or something like that.
I didn't realize how professional you are. Like me and you,
we race each other every day to see who's the
first one here. So you can't but judge your book
(02:15):
by its cover. But yeah, you're correct, you know, unfortunate.
I wouldn't say crabs in a barrel because it's on
another level, but it's it's a scenario where you know
you're trying to come in the game and then some
guys got their eyes on you and they just like, yo,
these guys are running too fast. Because you think about
(02:38):
the podcast has been on for what two months? And
we don't be viral how many times? And we done
have so much Royalty sit on this couch in the
first two months. Is fucking Royalty? Now he is shanty
fucking Jermaine Dupre. You know all the guests we done
(02:59):
had already, it's been Royalty's sitting on this couch. Nobody
else come out like that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's a fact. It was pretty much to say they
fucking hate.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, they hate, but check this shit out. There's not
much they could do because the people see, there's no
power like people power. My mentor JAYL. Riding Good, taught
me that. He said, there's no once you got the
people with you, there's nothing you could do, whether they
for you against you. I learned some new shit. You
know how Jimmy went on tour after after doing this show.
(03:31):
He's on tour. By the way, I've seen that Nigga
on Channel seven or something the other day. Yo, he's
on tour. Off with Yo, I'm not I'm y'all. He's
on like I would think Jimmy's putting out a book
of some ship. He's sitting on couches. He never sat
on talking about that ship. But I'm saying, oh my
(03:51):
forgot what I was saying. But the point is, no,
keep it real Alzheimer's. That's that ainc smacking me on
the back of my knee, killing my man crack with
the y'all rabbits. They got that ship on chill. They
got the jail ac in there. Like the sense you
booking with the you gotta put the fucking cardboard over
(04:12):
the fucking thing because this ship is rock Nation. Definitely
pay the ac bill. Yeah, they like it cool. That's
another thing. Shout out to jay Z with the casino.
You know, you got Knives going for casino in Brooklyn
and you got jay Z going for casino and tom Square.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You know what I'm saying, Asenel Green, I think Tomes
Square need a casino. You know, you know they worried
about the plays. So the only people who are opposed
to the casino on Tomes Square is obviously the people
who've been kicking for a hundred years on the on
the plays, so they hate competition coming. I don't think
it's competition. I think you add five thousand more jobs,
(04:55):
opportunity people come to the you know, if it's Jay Z.
It's going to be some SuperFlash, you know what I'm saying.
It's in New York City. Were at the age where
we're all trying to get a casino, So salute to
the legendary leigiens. You know. I was thinking of JD
and the building and all that, and I said, we
should just go into a whole influence of South hip
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hop in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We're talking about the rise of Southern hip hop in
the nineties.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Who are some of the crews that are most influential
at LAEL the most impact, No Limit, Cash Money.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Suave House, Rap a Lot so So Death, Slipping, Slide
the face. What would you say? I say all of them.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Shit, I say all of them too. But from a
historical standpoint, don't kill me, but I believe Suave House
and Tony Draper were the first to open that door.
Were independent. And the thing about uh South Rap a
Lot that was independent.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think about the way Luke had that ship on
tilting Miami. You know, Uncle Luke, that's better. That's before
Slipper slotes you reach Congress. No, he reached Congress, So Luke,
I mean, so many contributions to the hip hop game
(06:31):
in the South. Now when Jermaine the previously, I didn't
want to argue with him right because he was royalty.
But I felt like the South keep it together more
than New York. I think New York. When I think
the New York kind of fell apart was when everybody
started getting money, and everybody started saying, this is my crew,
(06:53):
this is my crew, We're getting the most money. We
this because you know, when the time I came out,
it was I would show up at everybody's video, everybody
show up at my video. We all supported each other.
I think once the money came and play and ego
and pride. You know they say that pride and ego
(07:14):
comes in before every downfall.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And so you know, the South, they started doing records
with each other. Even when I moved down to Miami,
Pitt Bulls in one studio, Wayne's in one studio, Ross's
one studio, Scott storch Is in one studio, Calliti and
once and everybody was just walking in each other's sessions,
just doing songs with each other. And we missed that
(07:38):
in New York. I think the South you used to
have it like it used to be like that and
then heybody got a couple of dollars. Who you think
is the most legendary record label in southern Hippo.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Said, you said, you said, schwab House. Definitely rap it
a lot slipping slap I was doing anything, but I
would say it would have to be uh, no limit
in cash money. To me, it was all tall whole run. Yeah,
we was on the rough ride of cash Money Tour.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
What was that like?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It was like the best of both worlds, you know,
like up top in New Orleans and we was bringing
that new He was bringing that East Coast New York flavor,
and they was bringing that New Orleans baby heard and
(08:36):
it was a perfect It was a perfect match. They
had mad tall buses. They bought the whole family where
my aunt I ain't sure Rest in Peace. Ms. Gladys
might have been there.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
They was pulling up.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
They had the whole family, dogs, babies, grandma's aunties, They
had everybody on one tour. They came crazy, They came crazy.
Shut out the Birdman. Yeah, they did shout out the Birdman.
What's South bird Man? You know, Lil Wayne, I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Gonna skip all the way to like Carter three and
Lil Wayne was like the first because you know he
was a South rapper, but the way he was rapping
off of these soul beats and he was spitting, but
he was spitting with it. You know. Me, you whether
(09:28):
we like that? Admitted even fifty said, whoever we got
a New York flown New York cadence. He was like doing.
He was just bouncing all over these beats like I
had never heard nobody bounce over them and saying some shit.
You know his he was barred up.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, we know he can't. We's He is one of
the people that with then the test of time, coming
in the game as a kid and then turning into
a man and fucking creating his own uproar. You know
what I'm saying, starting with the hot boys doing all that,
being the little one, and then he put the whole
(10:09):
ship on his back at the while lane blink every
time me got welcome home and.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Beg juve juvy all those guys, master Man master p
to me showed that by how to get money. He
fucking bombarded at the game.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
He was dropping. They had them colorful album covers with
the gold Ship on it, with the dropping at every
six Silk, the Shock and See Murdered, the rap game
like the Carter, and he had something dropping every month.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
He figured it out. It was like that was his
content at the time. So he was like, anything I
throw out there, Michelle, I just bring it to the pal.
You know. That's almost like how I do my accountant,
whether I'm you know, making money doing the podcast or
a show or this or that. At the end of
the month, I bring it all together and be like,
all right, we did well. So that's how he was
(11:05):
moving on with the music and then why he had
a legendary run where he Snoop Dogg was going through
a ship. He brought him down there through stupid life
preserve through Snooper. I feel like Snoop is very loyal
to him and realized that that was a major time
in his life, you know, where he needed help and
(11:28):
master p through him that life preserver.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
What artists from the South had the most influence on
New York hit? Wod you say?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I say, we listen to the question carefully.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
What artists from the South had the most influence on
New York hip? Not even sure? So that mean their influence.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
If you ask whole and you asks a bunch of rappers.
They might just say scarfings, you know you got it,
throw you got it for that? I mean, of course,
but I'm just saying, you asking me. It's a toss
up between uh, Scarface and Lil Wayne to have the
(12:12):
most influence and impact on New York artists. Now, if
you talk about.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
No, no, no no, this is great, I think it's
more though it's Scarface, it's Weezy's Gezy. Oh Jesus T.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I yes, you know, I got a story with t.
I you know what I'm saying. You know, I would
signed the Atlantic Records and I sold two million records,
and they had this poster of me. Ship was like
six floors high when you walk in the lobby.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
This ship was the.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Whole ship was me in the orange leather shirt, medallion
with it. With that, I got to bring the lion out.
I ain't never bring out the lion to this show yet.
So I got the lion with the big brick in
this month, we got the big diamond in his mouth.
So they had this shit in the poster for I
think like two three years. One day I walked into
(13:06):
a meeting with Atlantic and the ship had a poster
of t I the Big Ship, and I went upstairs
and they start talking to me, like, yo, your last
album sold half a million. This new guy t I
is selling two million. This this yo. This ship was
the craziest ship in the world. And that's around the
(13:28):
time I had to leave Atlantic, where I was like, yo,
A right, y'all, don't believe in me. I gotta go
and I went independent. But I mean that ship was crazy.
But I always had love for t I. T I
is very influential in New York and jeez, you know,
what could you say about jez jez uh who started
(13:48):
trap music? Was it t I?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Was it g Z get me the line? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I mean I had the trap, yeah, and he had
he had the Albump music. You gotta trap museum in Atlanta.
Seea has an actual trap museum where you see him
sneaking out the refrigerator, goes into another room. They like
they they rebuilt a trap and the most legendary you know,
(14:17):
as years went on.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Gucci Man was very Influenti's that dude, man. You know
that he put a lot of He did a lot
for hip hop, He did a lot for land.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You know, but I gotta go back, right, because I
gotta go back. So the question is who influenced New York? Now,
who influenced the world, And mostly the South because I'm
in the South. So I'm mostly in Miami, part time
New York for the last twenty something years. So I'm
(14:50):
stuck in the studio with a million Miami heat fans.
I mean, like, this shit is crazy. And the way
they talk about Andre three thousand, well, I don't think
no New Yorker one of the Kings. Yeah, but I
don't think no New York kidding me. I know, But
do they understand what three Stacks means to the South?
(15:15):
The Big Boy too, hell Cash as.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
A group and as individual they them dudes. They know
if you don't you shouldn't listen. Is something else?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Smooth Jazz, I never forget. I was in walk Disney
one day. I was taking my daughter and randomly, uh,
three Shacks just walked by. He had to fuck it,
what's this ship like the Oscar suit? Oh he had
to jump on. You had a ship roll now that
everybody rocketed, but he had the ship rolled up with
(15:48):
I was like, yo, did I just run into three
Stacks walking by? Himself and walk Disney.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yo, the man was walking by himself and walk Disney
with his ship rolled up. I was like, Yo, that's
fucking three stacks. Might you liable to see three stacks?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Anyway? Walk in the middle of Brooklyn. Now it's demographics
that's very hot right now. Texas, Houston, I mean Texas
as a whole New Orleans very hot.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Now I look at Texas by itself, Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Blacken them in Texas alone.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, No, I've been in Texas with I'm literally in
Texas with the tor bus at the hide under the
fucking the overpass because it's tornadoes, Like like you could
go through Texas for what ten hour drive or something.
The whole Texas is the biggest shit And so you
have all this corpus Christy with Selina's from some of
(16:49):
my man Baby Bash and Frankie Jay, Like, I know,
guys who made a whole life savings slim Dog in
Texas gonna be uj pimpsie h traded truth, traded truth,
(17:10):
or it could go Paul Wall You got Johnny dang Man,
is it is it?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He? He made a hell of a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
No, this guy got forget it. Teeth right now, Like
he went to every level. That's like the TV we
used to watch video music Box with. He went from
the regular sistem. Now he got ships. His ship is
damned there, Ice Venias. No, I'm telling his ship that
(17:39):
he done took it to another light. And I see
Johnny Dang everywhere, be dumb.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Icy, he always smelling. You always got the same.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
What a great guy, What a great guy. But Texas,
that's their own area. Like, yeah, it's the South, but
to me, it's like their own area. You got what bullshit?
Bushwick Bill, you got, scarface, you got like like I
think you can make a living in Texas alone. Look
(18:09):
if you popping, popping popping in Texas? Who they got now?
My man, because I'm the biggest, the hardest dollars thinking,
the biggest, hardest, your big ex the plug. That's the
record I wish I made. You know what I'm saying.
So you saw when you talking about New Orleans's.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Four nine, what the helly going crazy?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You know?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I listened to what the helly the other day and
I compared it to Black Robins who and yeah, because listen,
let me explain some to you. The beat was both
infectious and hein't gonna like WHOA if you listen to
what the helly is that? What the helly? Man? What
the helly? What the helly? Is his own version off
(18:53):
WHA twenty twenty five. I'm fucking with what the hell crazy?
This ship's anyway you better be, Yeah, but the beat
is like, oh fucking hypnotic. Like that beat right there,
that's what the helly. You first hear, you think it's
a TikTok thing and this or when you lock it
(19:14):
in the club, that ship is slapping? Is she slapping
in the club? What about Memphis?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's what my dad is for me? How you feel
about Memphis?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
God, that's where your dad is from Memphis. He moved
up here from Memphis.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, that's where he met.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
My mind's at That's how they had You want to
know what's crazy about Memphis. We'll get into Memphis, but
you know, Fat Joe gotta always tell a story right
here Memphis. So I'm hosting this tour for bud Light,
and it's every city they got an NBA team and
the star right so every so I'm in Memphis. I
(19:58):
think it was Rudy Gay or body Zach Randolph. So
I'm at a party and then what's my man a
Bay Bay the d j a Bay Bay and he's
DJing and this's there's one. The place wasn't so crowded,
but there's one chubby size young lady who's by the speaker,
(20:23):
and she keep moving like like you know, she keep
moving and for some reason, I'm standing at her the
whole night because she by herself, but she just moving.
Every record they throwing, they asked some ship god googiee bugely.
She's ugly booglee god googily. Now they asked some ship
like that, Yo, google that, Google that because he thinks
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he about the Cat the Bronx, don't they young, because
they're gonna say cat gig. They had some ship called
god Bogle God is WHI I'm trying to tell you
as I heard all type of shit I never heard
of my life. But I'm watching this girl the whole time.
(21:06):
It just so happens. I go back to Miami and
I told that story on here before. How my man
stand told me he went to the strip club and
they were throwing money in the air. So that's when
I came up with make It Rain. But the way
I work with Scott Storch is you book studio with
him and he could play whatever you hear. So if
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you hear some shit in your head and you tell
him you can make it, life play it. But the
crazy part was the drums. And the whole time he's
putting drums on it, He's like, yo, you knew, y'all,
you fat Joe. You're digging into crags like I can't
(21:50):
make you no Dirty South drums, And I'm like, yo, bro,
I just went to fifteen States and everybody was playing
Dirty South records. And then one time, I think jay
Z had the rock Boys in the building of the
night to us was the biggest shit in the world.
(22:11):
And at the end of the night, Homeboy was like, Yeo,
I'm throwing the throwback and he threw on the jay
Z that was popping. Then that's when I knew the
whole sound was changing. I said, Yo, they got the
whole country in the Choco, because I just went through
the whole country. In any case, I'm in there with
with Scott saw Maam had an argument because he was like, Yo,
I can't give you Dirty South drums. I said, Yo,
(22:32):
you gotta give me dirty South drums because that's the shit.
So he's producing it, and the whole time I'm looking
at the heavy set girl dancing by the by the
speaking I'm like, no, nah Na, she ain't dancing to it. Yet,
she ain't dancing to it. He finally threw the drums
where I saw her by the speaker, you know, doing
that shit, and I was like, that's it. She's dancing
(22:54):
to this. And so that's how we came up with
making ran up in Memphis, and so Memphis it's got
what Yo, Gotti recipeacef dolf Ah woe realer glow, money bag,
money bag yo. And then they they're all, who's the
guy down with young Dolph? They just signed It's a
(23:15):
key clock, you know. So right now it's safe to
say Memphis got it, you think. So in the South
they're doing in the regional, they're doing more than that.
They're doing more.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The numbers, they they causing a lot of fucking problems of.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
It, oh for sure, but they they they know since future, right.
So what I was trying to tell my nephews, Nori's kids,
I was like, yo, you know they no no one
numbers telling me that, uh, the young dog invent the
trap and they confused. They're young. They're young, right, So
(23:57):
I'm trying to tell them, yo, what about had an
album trap music? So I'm trying to tell him that
that that whole wave. You know, Future pretty much created
that whole wave to me, like with the single rap,
like you know all that ship you know, he had
(24:19):
that ship lit and he still got it there.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So I feel like he's on Pluto.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
He's on the whole number.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, he's on Pluto.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
He don't really he really misses when he when he's in,
when he's when he's cooking, he's cooking with fucking fish beach.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Oh no, he's he's definitely he's like a Jady kiss.
You know, never had a whack verse this guy.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
He got fucking nuclear missile songs.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah for sure. I remember when he.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Catch wildfire and they stay on fire.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I remember when he gave water, he gave what's his name,
He gave Cali the Boy, and Cali gave it to
Acehood that I won't go man, man my Ferrari. You
know how that ship used to knock in that fucking club.
He gave the few, No, no, he gave Walers. I
(25:15):
got the keys, keys, keys, I got the keys. You
know we're talking southern hip hop. We gotta take it
to Miami. Three oh five bet that up.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Listen, the list is crazy man. Then first I was
you gotta start off with two live crew, Uncle Luke
and the boys.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
You got JT Money, j T Money. You know there
was this there was a crew, James. You would know
this crew. I think it was called Society. They had
this one record. I was addicted to this record back
underground real hip hop. Then you got trick Daddy dollars
Trick Daddy. You know that Trick Daddy wouldn't stop going
(25:54):
platinum and he wouldn't want to leave Miami. But I'm
signed on the Atlantic records he got. I don't like
Trick Daddy's a super duper hit maker and a chef
for real. Trick Daddy popped, No, he cooks for real.
(26:15):
I ate a little kromp Fritis that he made out
there in front of the parking beas the biggest projects
out there and in Miami. Uh, you gotta go. Trina.
Trina is like one of the leaders of all the
all the girls in in hip hop. You know know
(26:37):
that Rio five, and then they gave like it was
it not really, but it is the birth of Rick Fross,
Ricky Rose, Ricky Rose. I don't think I've ever been
in the club where I had that effect of hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling,
like people banging on the walls. Uh. The DJ would
(27:01):
play it twenty times in the world, hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling,
pit Booll flow flow Rider, flow Riding broke Michael Jackson's
record ten years.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Flow Rider broke everything. There is the break he ordered
mean lawsuit. They did him Greasy, one of them companies,
and he caught one to getting it.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Y'all shout out to Nephew, the whole crew out there. Uh,
then we could go on with ball Greasy, everybody else
who's contributions to the game. We gotta say Kodak Black.
If we're going to better, say he up and Yo,
how black he is Florida, the whole floyder. You go
to Tallahassae, you go to t Paint. T Pain's contributions
(27:47):
to hip hop music go unnoticed in the major major
He got the all I do is win, win win.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
No mane pane is Pain is one of them special
chosen people in our coach. People live on family. These
timeless yes songs that will be played our kids, kids,
kids kids kids who head t Pain.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Trust me, you already know we left anybody out. We
saw her And speaking of that, I never seen nobody
had a club on till I'm talking about from a
Miami perspective, like Jeezy Man Jeezy, he had nig he
had dudes running, They got rap song Bible.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
All you gotta do is hit play.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I'm your favorite rapper, favorite rapper. I'm a favorite trapper's
favorite trapper. He was going.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
He got the no Man, he got the Bible playlist
for trapping and hustling.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yo, shout out to Vera. You know Vera, my man
evil shoot the videos. He made the Snowman Deph Jam
paid him to make the make a logo and he
made the snow Man logo for Jeez. Crazy out there.
Shout out the ef eif did that crazy Yeah, yeah,
(29:09):
he created that T shirt. You know what I'm saying.
Like my man right here, Yo, t Mars shout out.
You were giving us fire every day and we love
to see he come with gifts. He come with legendary shit.
T Boks. You know, I wore your hat from Yankee Stadium,
and you know how this shit go. It's like whether
you you hit it out the park and you don't,
(29:32):
as long as they talking, you know what I'm saying.
Like I realized that this game, but of twenty twenty five,
social media and all that, if you're winning or you're not,
if they talking, you're doing great. Yeah. So they was
fucking me up because I had to delay on the mic. Meanwhile,
(29:52):
your captains in every fucking interview, they keep showing and showing,
showing and showing and showing your I had your ship
in the for something legendary. And so when I did
that Yankee Stadium at the World serious, I threw that
hat on. Look at Jada Jaya like, yo, I'm rocking
his shit all the time. But he got the yank
(30:13):
young man made this water gwitty. You ever climbed on
the top of the Yonkers water shit, he don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I gotta be on the ground. I ain't. Now you
feel about flying, That's how I feel about being in
the end the heights. Yeah, up on shit, I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You know, my building had a water tower. In the
Forest Projects, we had a water tower and we used
to play hooky in there. Your kids, if you from Forrest,
don't do what I've said. But you know, we used
to skip school in there and it was like a
water tower, but you go up that ladder and then
they had like a little the round part in the
(30:51):
top was like you could chill in there, and we
go up to the roof. I mean we chilling there
for fucking nine in the morning, the three afternoon, and
that we came on for school. So in your neighborhood,
yin used to ride on top of the elevators.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
We did all of that.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
We was in the projects. We would ride on top
of the elevators and stick this shit. You know you
could stick them. I say, oh what up?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Man? And winning young three five four three five eight.
We used to ride on top of the buildings. But
where I lived at Wolburn and Ravine, they had the
Gate to Hell. That was an old like factory that
we used to play in that you could die anytime
you're going it was missing shit was you gotta go
(31:33):
up but the stairs is loose and missing any look, God,
no God, thank nobody never fell in that shit. But
now we was doing some fucking stupid ass shit is Yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Had one called dead Man's Hell. So dead Man's Hell
was like, yo, I mean, if you did it, you
might have saved twenty minutes. Right, So you go from
my block to Third Avenue where you go chopping. They
had some shit dead Man's Hill where they had a
wire and it was just like a little, a little
if you fail, you died to Night of Space, you
(32:06):
could do it, but the wire if you ain't get
scared you I mean, people were doing that shit. Grown men,
women were taking dead Man's If you didn't take that,
you had to walk around maybe ten fifteen blocks, like
it was some long shit. You did that in like
two minutes. You already halfway down. Oh more than that,
(32:28):
you already like that price position and where you want
to get. But that Man Hill, that shit was crazy.
Be like, we had no business doing that shit. Just dumb.
They Oh man, this is not me.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
This is the producers. I ain't even gonna blow them
up case you bump into him in the super Bowl.
They're saying, is it me or are the ladies slowing up?
It was a good two years where the ladies had
it in the smash. I don't fucking think the ladies
is slowing up at all. Gloous, glowing Nikki can never
(33:05):
she hit ship out the park, megan to megastar. You
talk about Cardi every day. She just dropped the new single,
that ship's on fire. They turned into megastar. One thing
about the females. They get a single or a good
album and they turn into megastars. Parsh South, but she's sexy.
(33:27):
Say was she fucking bigger than they take? They turn
the females turned into mega iconic stars. They get out
of the get somebody like Otto, Lotos Megas fucking you know,
she's not iconic because she's still young, but she's a
mega fucking star.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yea, she is shut out to Lotto. I fuck with Lotto.
But the women, uh are they slowing down? If they are,
they like at a nine. You know what I'm saying,
because they like two years ago, these girls was bigger
than the guys.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
The girls is fucking ship up. They're killing ship.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
But they really was fucking it up a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
They had it was no oxygen, there was even no room.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, they get the fuck out the game. She was
on smash. They was running that ship for real. But
if if they did fell off, they went to a nine.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
They got out of the orbit. You know, Ice Spice
out of head. She wasn't allowed. Yeah, but she wasn't
allowed she No, she's on some commercial on you type.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
She got some ship Kate Spade or some ship with
the Demo sisters. They played that commercial. But Ice Spice,
she wasn't allowed to lose her ass man. She lost
some weight and.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
People get it.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
No, no, it was off my nephews, just like yo,
we off Ice Spice. Just this that I've never seen nobody.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I don't got nothing to do with that. She lost
the ass with my nephew saying. They was like, well
she lost the yaller. They was like yo, and then
she got it right back and they jumped on it
like that, just.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Like that, shout out the Ice Spice man. Ice Spice
in the Bronx sort gardener. Nah, No, she be with
fucking m what's the name tail us with? You know,
she dating the football player. I've seen the guys.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Short's Garden, the Short's Garden. Yeah, I seen him.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I seen him in Carbone, you know, what I'm saying.
The private Oh no, they're doing ship.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
The females is out of it.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
You know they're doing They doing carbone. I've seen them.
I walked in the room. Now everybody gets in that
the room I'm talking about specifically, and they was in
that ship. I was like, okay, because it took me
years and years and years it to get to the
private woombs and to speak easisy ship. Were you you
(36:05):
bump into Dolan or some ship like that? They mad younger,
They right up in there.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
That's telling you what's going on out here.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
You know they got that boost. You remember you used
to climb the roof and then they give you the boost.
You jump up to the roof when you was a kid.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, step on somebody's shoulders. Yeah, you step in the hands,
step in their hands and they boost you up. And
I used to That's how you learn how to do
backflips in the hood orre you going between? You see
what I'm saying, dudes, and they flipped.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You know one thing about the at L The police
been trying to put people way away out there, like
with the young dog and the wire cell crew and
the what what's the other one? The wine, the Melly and.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Florida.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, I know he was from Atlanta. You're for Florida, Florida,
for Florida wine man blue one of them Ben Lucci.
Melly is Florida. Lucci is a sorry Mellye Lucci right
free Melly. They were trying to book everybody out there
with them ricos, and they were trying to book Donald
(37:14):
Trump before he went for friend president. They Trump still
gotta open they so they used that rico loose handed me.
You know, I watched that whole trial too, And what's
your man was? I don't know if we should give
me a shout out here? Your man who the craziest
witness ever created? What's his name?
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Woody or Woody? Yo?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Your Woody was out? No, he did let him, let
him free Woody Woody back in, although wood he fuck.
If he back in, they're gonna give him ten thousand years.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It ain't nothing, it's some light.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
If he hopped the train, they're giving him ten.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Street racing.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, he wanna show you out.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
He got new.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
He was racing down that boy Woody Cleveland wood he
is on that O. J. Simpson list. I'm telling you
wood he should not even be in Atlantive, Woody, what
he should be living in like Bahamas or some ship.
Because when I'm telling you, if they catch him for
hopping the train, they're gonna throw the book at them.
(38:20):
And he was straight up if we're gonna listen to
him and believe him, like I can't read, I don't know, ship,
don't this. I don't like that boy. They're gonna smoke
his boots.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
He was just playing stupid on the stand.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I mean it was very, very very entertaining. Oh no, no,
he definitely get That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
He knew what he was doing. He was throwing them
people off. This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Nah, it's crazy because they they'll tell you so far.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I was cracked.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Nah, you know now, I'm more like Ralph Crampton man,
the Honeymooners man. You know what I'm saying, Ralph.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Kram you crammed in. If he had crammed in that bread.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Cranson had a lot of bread. Craniall was down in Miami.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
You mean.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
TV show? He was fucked up the Union. Yeah, no,
he was fucked up in the app bad. At least
he has somebody to pick on. What's his man's knowing
man knowing, Yo, he was killing knowing the real Jackie
Gleason at Breck, the real Jackie Gleason. He was a
pool shok. He being my. He be in Miami killing
(39:32):
dudes for bread. Oh that was his gambler. He ran Miami.
You get Minnesota facts, Minnesota facts. He ran everything in Miami.
So that's who you know. I inspire to be man.
You know what I'm saying, Ja, Yes, yes, Joyce Redolph,
let me take you with Joyce arc Cornie d Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
That ship was the ship though.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
The Marathion's or New Year. You don't know about the
money moonings. This the fun, Ben Simmons, the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Have hold on one second. One second. I'm sorry. They
buying me socks. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I'm trying to be cool, trying to I'm trying to
do the socks and one five eight they got cotton.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
This go talk I rich cotton. He's saying, I need
like Louis socks and all this kind ship.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
What I just told you, you're getting one where it's cool.
We got I got all of the socks, but get
these from one five eight up n y c rich
cotton man they got.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I got an app out on socks. They are they
all trp.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Trying to get mad socks. You're gonna waste The ships
is one where like air Force.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
And it's over. So you said the witch cotton's rich cotton. Wait,
I got the rich cotton. That's what up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I ain't gonna bring it up a little.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Ben Simmons to talk about this Nix is in talk
with I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
This is it might be allegedly is something I seen
them in the sports world that the Knicks is in
talks with Ben Simmons. The first comment I seen is
fat Joe. No, that's.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
That's emphatically Nonsighth.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
For God, wouldn't like Ben Simmons off the bench. No, listen,
let me talk before you say why not. And I'm
not enthusiastically happy about it, but just look why Mike
can work. You don't we need him to handle the ball.
He can fucking hell of a pass it and he
can stick anybody from one to five. We don't need
(41:50):
him to shoot passing the Clarkson, pass it to the
big nigga from French and pass it to whoever else
they left it bridges or whoever.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
You know, I think about it fused because I can't
see that dude.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Houston said, we're gonna talk about him longer than he's
gonna play.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
If you don't listen to what I'm saying to you,
I'm confused. Like Ben Simmons is he's a wash.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
They hypnotize him back that Ben Simmons right now, he's
been everything's been from.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
What about the Young boyn read what about the Young
Boy around the world and AIAI. But he ain't been Simmons.
He ain't been playing and he ain't been playing. Yo,
that's a fact. But I watched you since my vert
I washed. He got he got it in them. Somebody
(42:42):
took it out of a porch. He had a supercore.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
He's been.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
He used to be a killer, he was the man,
but he ain't that. I think it was Philly.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Philly does something to him, Yo, listen or lady and
Philly a cheese steak. Something in Philly.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Shout out to my man, Skinny Joe, Skinny Joe coming
down there for that Philly cheese seak. My man just
opened up a Philly cheese seakes. I said, no, I
rolled by the line a million man mind. I was
gonna go go in there. He said, this ship the world. No, No,
I'm going next week. I go to Miami tomorrow, but
(43:21):
I'm going to the I just need one. But it's
the real deal. I just need one. But I've been
watching it on Instagram. Shout out, my man Steve Morleronald. So,
my man Steve Morleronald got the Italian restaurant at Fort
Lord of Delle. His cheese steaks are undefeated. But this
just off of face value. And segued to full Steve skinny,
(43:45):
Skinny yo, his ship looking real. And now you said
you brought up Philly. Yo. The guy's piece of ship.
He's watched up crash Ben Simmons, He's done. He's a
vision of himself. He's scared of his own shout out, listen,
now listen to mental illness, cracked therapy.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I got a delusion. I got one of your cunneage.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Why is the loser? Think about this?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
And Philly's my second home. It's my favorite place that
if I had to get out of here right now,
I'm moving to Philly. They love me, they protect me,
they they love I love Philly too. I think it's
when you when you're a rookie and they initiating you
and Philly, they take you somewhere, and they happened to
Markel folks. Yeah, happen to Ben Simmons.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
But Markel folks came back. Now he came back to
say Simmons to come back long time and then he ain't.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Even He don't got the Ben. Look, Ben Simmons just
forgot how to shoot. He can't play matl folks. That No,
this guy can't play.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
He can play.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Simmons don't want to shoot. Somebody told them, don't shoot,
and he the fucking mind.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I can't with the thing.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Look, if he gets the eye the tiger back, which
New York could make it get back, put it back,
and he'd be I.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Was at Boss, he was at Brooklyn. Ain't do ship.
Now let me explain.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
He wasn't even showing up.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
He wasn't moving there, ain't gonnais is gonna even help
you or fucking hurt you.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
No gray area within the garden.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Ben Simmons is washed up. It's over. There's no way,
no hope, no nothing. We can't rewind the time I
got hope. I cannot rewind the time with this man.
This guy's failing.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Men.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
She's fully in the gray area, especially off the bench. Nah,
he can't do nothing. I've been watching him for years.
I used to like this game, and I've been watching
him for years. I swear to God, I've been watching
your Marshall. Folks came back. He had a little spurk
went down to Orlando. Your man, best Simmons.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Take him to Disney. He might see three thousand.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
They gave my man Polonchio.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Why what did you call it? Pablo, Paulo Chero? You
mess making Noro ca Caro. Yeah, man, I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I'm sorry, Polo. This guy hold on, hold up, let
me tell you about Punk Carrow Punk Caro.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
He just got that.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
No, No, they did the right there. I thought about it, right,
I said, Yo, if you put Pink Carrow on Detroit,
they're the favorite. If you put Pink Carrow on any
team that's this that's almost looking to go, they're gonna
(46:50):
win a chip. So I feel like, of course Orlando
gave him the bag. But they also played like defense
because they was like, anybody we give this guy to
They imagine you sent point Carroll to Golden State, You
sent part Carroll anywhere they got a chance, if they
already got a one two punch at or whatever, they
(47:13):
got a chance at a chip. This guy, point Carroll.
I've seen some shit the other day. Maybe we don't
watch Orlando, but when they announced the deal, they was
like first NBA player with twenty five plus. I was like,
they put him in the names with like you know,
Will Chamberlain and this and and I didn't even know
he was doing that kind of I love him. I
(47:36):
ain't know he was doing legendary status numbers. That's what
he's doing. So I shout out, Punt Carrol. You know
he know he got a weird name. Don't get it
fucked up. His best friends had to study his shit.
He got a weird row Man, he got a weird there.
Pont Carrol, what's up, brother? I love Orlando team.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
And Shamguard just got a then coach job.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
On Sam God, oh shamp what's going on? Baby? I
got to cheer you. You know, Shamguard one of the
only people I know from the street that made it
to the league. So you know this, you know, Skip
made it. Skip, that's it. That's it, Rayfid Austin, that's it.
(48:22):
Who else in the street made it to the league.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
The Sham ain't from the street.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
He went the car he went to give I know
Sham from the street. Yeah, we know him from home. Yes,
he's from the street.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
So he in the league.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
He's assistant to college and killed. He killed in corp Okay.
So yeah, yeah, he killed in college with he ain't
do that problem with them, what you wanted to do
that in Providence? He killed him. Know what he did
in Providence. I salute him for what I'm saying is
to me, let me say, you just know Fat Joe
met him in the street street basketball. You know he
(48:57):
got the shamp. You know what I'm saying. He invented
to the move that every one of our players that
we think is the greatest of all time seventy one.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
He showed. He did hours in sessions with Kobe, and
he did hours in sessions with Jiji.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
He's legend. He taught them out of Sham for hours,
dribbling skills for hours.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
He got story. He told me shit Kobe and gig.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Listen, shamguar salute brother, because I've seen you in the streets.
I know you went to college, but I've seen you
in the streets that we could easily get lost in
the streets, and he was in the streets. So that's
just one shot. I tell you. I know Shamguard was
sitting on the block to three in the morning drinking
talking this like, Oh he was in the streets and
(49:50):
now he's a coach of of Orlando. That's that's huge.
He was in Dallas right before that. What you think
about Dallas chances? Kyrie, don't want to go back son.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
They just sugned the Angelo Russell two years, thirteen million.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I think he's good.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I think that's a good feeling horse. Can you see.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
By the dog ya listen? Nah, I really am not
a fan of D'Angelo Russell. I mean he's good close,
but no, cigar. I'm sorry, guys. He had his chance.
And what's crazy is I actually was there when he
got drafted to the league, and his confidence walking up there,
(50:38):
you would think he was the next Ai, the next Kobe,
the next MJ. Lebron. He will I'll never forget that.
And I remember to myself saying, Yo, this kid gotta
humble himself. And boy, the league have a way of
humbling you if you're not out there doing what you
gotta do. And so Angelo Russell, congratulations on sticking somebody
(51:03):
up for another check.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yo, with that?
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Why I look fifty three when you can look?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
I can't believe this.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
No, I'm trying to tell you the truth. Why get
thirty million when you should be getting three million?
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Thirty?
Speaker 1 (51:19):
I'm a little upset to yo, And I don't get jealous, man,
I'm a little upset. I looked up this week. I
guess they started the trades and all that. This week.
It's like five NBA players in the world with one
hundred million and better. Do you know what rappers gotta
do to make a hundred million? What's the percentage of
(51:40):
rappers that ever made one hundred million?
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Da grumble rappers made one hundred million?
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Not a rap, yo? How you watch these basketball players?
They said, No, you watch the ESPN. This shit's like, Yeah,
Julius ran dow one hundred million, three year deal, two
hundred sixty seven. I think Ponchero got for somebody as GA?
What as GA got.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
To seventy four?
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Carol eighty five five minutes? How much as g A?
You got any something for four? What the fuck? What
am I doing wrong?
Speaker 2 (52:16):
You don't know how to shoot the turning round. You
got the leg for the euro you already you got
the leg for the first.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Jumper to your look you got I got it. I
ain't got the winner need to come back. You don't
got it.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I ain't got a hops. That's what got you the
hundred mil. You got the half year. I don't got
the hop they go back. I ain't got the first
one you ha been to jump. I got the first.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Even you would have me, I got the looks this
dece even later it would have called you to just
you know, going out by had to move practice got
the one. You got it all right, SG A two
eighty five million without the comp like four years, no
(53:05):
agent fee, no agent fee, fuck, pure money.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Pure.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
The boy got his own money. Joey got his own ship.
And I just want to know what the fuck were
doing wrong. My legs are bad.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
They can't shoot the turnaround, man, joe this ship is
you know how to do this? You know?
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Because you ever noticed these ball players they want to
be rappers. I don't know what for? Did you know?
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I mean, let me speak on that.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
They do they want to they don't they let me.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
I figured it out ballplayers like rappers. They don't want
to be They want ballplayer money, but they want to
be rappers with their contracts. If they had to switch
like a hobacks gonna be less ball players. They would
be playing the pianoing on. They wouldn't want to rap.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
They wouldn't want to rap if they figured it out.
I just think everything was procession rap they get. I
think it's smoking mirrors. I think the ballplayers think the
rappers got as much money as done they've been watching.
I'm telling you, bro, I'm telling you, I'm sitting next
to Jeff Teg how much money Jeff Tag made it
his career? Yeah, you right, pretty good? What's pretty good?
(54:18):
I'm saying over fifty See how much good he said
doing this? Hold on? He signed a three year fifty
seven and twenty seventeen. And then what else we got
more than that? Whoever? You know what fifty seven million is?
By the way, the man told me, yo, I remember, yo, team,
one of these things. You was nearly one hundred. You
(54:41):
was driving a black bet like fuck you can you
got a hundred million like ninety eight point eight to
be exam They look at us ninety eight point eight
that's on the what like, he's not on a low ad,
that's on the low lower end.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Mind, Go see where I'm from.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I used to go see Ronald Tests and fucking Queensbridge projects.
He had when he got that like forty million or something.
He had an old school pickup truck. He used to
play for me at the Rock. I would go to
Queensbridge to get him. He's sitting out there with sound
chancletos on front of the bell like somebody ain't telling him, Yo,
you're filthy rich superstar. And he was out in the
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projects in the summer every day. And by the way,
Runal Tests is undefeated in the Rucker's history. He never
played a game that he lost. So if he played
a hundred times, you could have bet the kitchen sink
on him. He never lost. One time we had a game.
He cut himself all the way here, he taped the ship,
still won the game. Runout Tests. He was different. But
(55:49):
it's safe to say I would switch with the ball
players any day, and a baseball player, Yo, we gotta
wrap this mad Rinaldo shit. Ronaldo is Saudi Arabia again,
like five hundred million taking the plane to Dubai every
day there's a thirty minute flight taking the He lives
in Dubai. It's seven hundred million over to respectful ship
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and he flies over there for the game and flies
back into private like a joke. His kids ain't dun yo.
This ain't that, that ain't this, and this cracking kiss
baby the biggest fucking show in the globe, A phenomenon.
Rookies in the year. We're gone for that number one spot.
(56:35):
And let me tell y'all, I see y'all shaking in
your boots. Were coming to train this coming baby, to
train this coming sh see you
And I'm like, nah, nah, nah, she ain't dancing to
it yet, she ain't dancing to it. Ain't. Finally threw
the drums where I saw her by the speaker, you know,
doing this, and I was like, that's it. That's when
I knew the whole sound was changing. I said, Yo,
they got the whole country in the choco. Yo. What
(00:29):
up y'artist? Your boy? Yo, crap, your boy Jada kiss?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is the Joe and Jaden Show. Don't get it
fucked up. Let me tell you something. They want you
to do good. Kiss, They just don't want you to
live next to him.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Won't let that go over your heads, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So your friends they might want you to do good,
they don't want you to live next to them. So
if they make a hundred dollars, they want you to
make ninety. They never want you to make a hundred ten.
I never gave a fuck like with me, realistically, I
guess hip hop was competition. But to me, like, you know,
somebody came in the game raw, So anybody came in
(01:10):
the game, I showed them love like unconditional, like I
never really like looked at nobody like, oh, they the
competition on that level or nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
If you get a billion dollars, if you get a
billion sales, if you get it a heavy feed. But
with this particular game and this particular time, alle oops
ain't ain't something that you're not throwing. Alley oops is
not favors are not easy to come by in And
(01:42):
it's not even that this game is really fucked up
because you might do you might show up every time
they call you, and the reciprocation, ain't it?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I mean you agree, Yeah, well, I realized because you
get high and most of the times I have a
children that you was at a show or something like that.
I didn't realize how professional you are. Like me and you,
we race each other every day to see who's the
first one here. So you can't but judge your book
(02:15):
by its cover. But yeah, you're correct, you know, unfortunate.
I wouldn't say crabs in a barrel because it's on
another level, but it's it's a scenario where you know
you're trying to come in the game and then some
guys got their eyes on you and they just like, yo,
these guys are running too fast. Because you think about
(02:38):
the podcast has been on for what two months? And
we don't be viral how many times? And we done
have so much Royalty sit on this couch in the
first two months. Is fucking Royalty? Now he is shanty
fucking Jermaine Dupre. You know all the guests we done
(02:59):
had already, it's been Royalty's sitting on this couch. Nobody
else come out like that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's a fact. It was pretty much to say they
fucking hate.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, they hate, but check this shit out. There's not
much they could do because the people see, there's no
power like people power. My mentor JAYL. Riding Good, taught
me that. He said, there's no once you got the
people with you, there's nothing you could do, whether they
for you against you. I learned some new shit. You
know how Jimmy went on tour after after doing this show.
(03:31):
He's on tour. By the way, I've seen that Nigga
on Channel seven or something the other day. Yo, he's
on tour. Off with Yo, I'm not I'm y'all. He's
on like I would think Jimmy's putting out a book
of some ship. He's sitting on couches. He never sat
on talking about that ship. But I'm saying, oh my
(03:51):
forgot what I was saying. But the point is, no,
keep it real Alzheimer's. That's that ainc smacking me on
the back of my knee, killing my man crack with
the y'all rabbits. They got that ship on chill. They
got the jail ac in there. Like the sense you
booking with the you gotta put the fucking cardboard over
(04:12):
the fucking thing because this ship is rock Nation. Definitely
pay the ac bill. Yeah, they like it cool. That's
another thing. Shout out to jay Z with the casino.
You know, you got Knives going for casino in Brooklyn
and you got jay Z going for casino and tom Square.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You know what I'm saying, Asenel Green, I think Tomes
Square need a casino. You know, you know they worried
about the plays. So the only people who are opposed
to the casino on Tomes Square is obviously the people
who've been kicking for a hundred years on the on
the plays, so they hate competition coming. I don't think
it's competition. I think you add five thousand more jobs,
(04:55):
opportunity people come to the you know, if it's Jay Z.
It's going to be some SuperFlash, you know what I'm saying.
It's in New York City. Were at the age where
we're all trying to get a casino, So salute to
the legendary leigiens. You know. I was thinking of JD
and the building and all that, and I said, we
should just go into a whole influence of South hip
(05:19):
hop in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We're talking about the rise of Southern hip hop in
the nineties.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Who are some of the crews that are most influential
at LAEL the most impact, No Limit, Cash Money.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Suave House, Rap a Lot so So Death, Slipping, Slide
the face. What would you say? I say all of them.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Shit, I say all of them too. But from a
historical standpoint, don't kill me, but I believe Suave House
and Tony Draper were the first to open that door.
Were independent. And the thing about uh South Rap a
Lot that was independent.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think about the way Luke had that ship on
tilting Miami. You know, Uncle Luke, that's better. That's before
Slipper slotes you reach Congress. No, he reached Congress, So Luke,
I mean, so many contributions to the hip hop game
(06:31):
in the South. Now when Jermaine the previously, I didn't
want to argue with him right because he was royalty.
But I felt like the South keep it together more
than New York. I think New York. When I think
the New York kind of fell apart was when everybody
started getting money, and everybody started saying, this is my crew,
(06:53):
this is my crew, We're getting the most money. We
this because you know, when the time I came out,
it was I would show up at everybody's video, everybody
show up at my video. We all supported each other.
I think once the money came and play and ego
and pride. You know they say that pride and ego
(07:14):
comes in before every downfall.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And so you know, the South, they started doing records
with each other. Even when I moved down to Miami,
Pitt Bulls in one studio, Wayne's in one studio, Ross's
one studio, Scott storch Is in one studio, Calliti and
once and everybody was just walking in each other's sessions,
just doing songs with each other. And we missed that
(07:38):
in New York. I think the South you used to
have it like it used to be like that and
then heybody got a couple of dollars. Who you think
is the most legendary record label in southern Hippo.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Said, you said, you said, schwab House. Definitely rap it
a lot slipping slap I was doing anything, but I
would say it would have to be uh, no limit
in cash money. To me, it was all tall whole run. Yeah,
we was on the rough ride of cash Money Tour.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
What was that like?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It was like the best of both worlds, you know,
like up top in New Orleans and we was bringing
that new He was bringing that East Coast New York flavor,
and they was bringing that New Orleans baby heard and
(08:36):
it was a perfect It was a perfect match. They
had mad tall buses. They bought the whole family where
my aunt I ain't sure Rest in Peace. Ms. Gladys
might have been there.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
They was pulling up.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
They had the whole family, dogs, babies, grandma's aunties, They
had everybody on one tour. They came crazy, They came crazy.
Shut out the Birdman. Yeah, they did shout out the Birdman.
What's South bird Man? You know, Lil Wayne, I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Gonna skip all the way to like Carter three and
Lil Wayne was like the first because you know he
was a South rapper, but the way he was rapping
off of these soul beats and he was spitting, but
he was spitting with it. You know. Me, you whether
(09:28):
we like that? Admitted even fifty said, whoever we got
a New York flown New York cadence. He was like doing.
He was just bouncing all over these beats like I
had never heard nobody bounce over them and saying some shit.
You know his he was barred up.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, we know he can't. We's He is one of
the people that with then the test of time, coming
in the game as a kid and then turning into
a man and fucking creating his own uproar. You know
what I'm saying, starting with the hot boys doing all that,
being the little one, and then he put the whole
(10:09):
ship on his back at the while lane blink every
time me got welcome home and.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Beg juve juvy all those guys, master Man master p
to me showed that by how to get money. He
fucking bombarded at the game.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
He was dropping. They had them colorful album covers with
the gold Ship on it, with the dropping at every
six Silk, the Shock and See Murdered, the rap game
like the Carter, and he had something dropping every month.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
He figured it out. It was like that was his
content at the time. So he was like, anything I
throw out there, Michelle, I just bring it to the pal.
You know. That's almost like how I do my accountant,
whether I'm you know, making money doing the podcast or
a show or this or that. At the end of
the month, I bring it all together and be like,
all right, we did well. So that's how he was
(11:05):
moving on with the music and then why he had
a legendary run where he Snoop Dogg was going through
a ship. He brought him down there through stupid life
preserve through Snooper. I feel like Snoop is very loyal
to him and realized that that was a major time
in his life, you know, where he needed help and
(11:28):
master p through him that life preserver.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
What artists from the South had the most influence on
New York hit? Wod you say?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I say, we listen to the question carefully.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
What artists from the South had the most influence on
New York hip? Not even sure? So that mean their influence.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
If you ask whole and you asks a bunch of rappers.
They might just say scarfings, you know you got it,
throw you got it for that? I mean, of course,
but I'm just saying, you asking me. It's a toss
up between uh, Scarface and Lil Wayne to have the
(12:12):
most influence and impact on New York artists. Now, if
you talk about.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
No, no, no no, this is great, I think it's
more though it's Scarface, it's Weezy's Gezy. Oh Jesus T.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I yes, you know, I got a story with t.
I you know what I'm saying. You know, I would
signed the Atlantic Records and I sold two million records,
and they had this poster of me. Ship was like
six floors high when you walk in the lobby.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
This ship was the.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Whole ship was me in the orange leather shirt, medallion
with it. With that, I got to bring the lion out.
I ain't never bring out the lion to this show yet.
So I got the lion with the big brick in
this month, we got the big diamond in his mouth.
So they had this shit in the poster for I
think like two three years. One day I walked into
(13:06):
a meeting with Atlantic and the ship had a poster
of t I the Big Ship, and I went upstairs
and they start talking to me, like, yo, your last
album sold half a million. This new guy t I
is selling two million. This this yo. This ship was
the craziest ship in the world. And that's around the
(13:28):
time I had to leave Atlantic, where I was like, yo,
A right, y'all, don't believe in me. I gotta go
and I went independent. But I mean that ship was crazy.
But I always had love for t I. T I
is very influential in New York and jeez, you know,
what could you say about jez jez uh who started
(13:48):
trap music? Was it t I?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Was it g Z get me the line? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I mean I had the trap, yeah, and he had
he had the Albump music. You gotta trap museum in Atlanta.
Seea has an actual trap museum where you see him
sneaking out the refrigerator, goes into another room. They like
they they rebuilt a trap and the most legendary you know,
(14:17):
as years went on.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Gucci Man was very Influenti's that dude, man. You know
that he put a lot of He did a lot
for hip hop, He did a lot for land.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You know, but I gotta go back, right, because I
gotta go back. So the question is who influenced New York? Now,
who influenced the world, And mostly the South because I'm
in the South. So I'm mostly in Miami, part time
New York for the last twenty something years. So I'm
(14:50):
stuck in the studio with a million Miami heat fans.
I mean, like, this shit is crazy. And the way
they talk about Andre three thousand, well, I don't think
no New Yorker one of the Kings. Yeah, but I
don't think no New York kidding me. I know, But
do they understand what three Stacks means to the South?
(15:15):
The Big Boy too, hell Cash as.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
A group and as individual they them dudes. They know
if you don't you shouldn't listen. Is something else?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Smooth Jazz, I never forget. I was in walk Disney
one day. I was taking my daughter and randomly, uh,
three Shacks just walked by. He had to fuck it,
what's this ship like the Oscar suit? Oh he had
to jump on. You had a ship roll now that
everybody rocketed, but he had the ship rolled up with
(15:48):
I was like, yo, did I just run into three
Stacks walking by? Himself and walk Disney.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yo, the man was walking by himself and walk Disney
with his ship rolled up. I was like, Yo, that's
fucking three stacks. Might you liable to see three stacks?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Anyway? Walk in the middle of Brooklyn. Now it's demographics
that's very hot right now. Texas, Houston, I mean Texas
as a whole New Orleans very hot.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Now I look at Texas by itself, Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Blacken them in Texas alone.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, No, I've been in Texas with I'm literally in
Texas with the tor bus at the hide under the
fucking the overpass because it's tornadoes, Like like you could
go through Texas for what ten hour drive or something.
The whole Texas is the biggest shit And so you
have all this corpus Christy with Selina's from some of
(16:49):
my man Baby Bash and Frankie Jay, Like, I know,
guys who made a whole life savings slim Dog in
Texas gonna be uj pimpsie h traded truth, traded truth,
(17:10):
or it could go Paul Wall You got Johnny dang Man,
is it is it?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He? He made a hell of a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
No, this guy got forget it. Teeth right now, Like
he went to every level. That's like the TV we
used to watch video music Box with. He went from
the regular sistem. Now he got ships. His ship is
damned there, Ice Venias. No, I'm telling his ship that
(17:39):
he done took it to another light. And I see
Johnny Dang everywhere, be dumb.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Icy, he always smelling. You always got the same.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
What a great guy, What a great guy. But Texas,
that's their own area. Like, yeah, it's the South, but
to me, it's like their own area. You got what bullshit?
Bushwick Bill, you got, scarface, you got like like I
think you can make a living in Texas alone. Look
(18:09):
if you popping, popping popping in Texas? Who they got now?
My man, because I'm the biggest, the hardest dollars thinking,
the biggest, hardest, your big ex the plug. That's the
record I wish I made. You know what I'm saying.
So you saw when you talking about New Orleans's.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Four nine, what the helly going crazy?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You know?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I listened to what the helly the other day and
I compared it to Black Robins who and yeah, because listen,
let me explain some to you. The beat was both
infectious and hein't gonna like WHOA if you listen to
what the helly is that? What the helly? Man? What
the helly? What the helly? Is his own version off
(18:53):
WHA twenty twenty five. I'm fucking with what the hell crazy?
This ship's anyway you better be, Yeah, but the beat
is like, oh fucking hypnotic. Like that beat right there,
that's what the helly. You first hear, you think it's
a TikTok thing and this or when you lock it
(19:14):
in the club, that ship is slapping? Is she slapping
in the club? What about Memphis?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's what my dad is for me? How you feel
about Memphis?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
God, that's where your dad is from Memphis. He moved
up here from Memphis.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, that's where he met.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
My mind's at That's how they had You want to
know what's crazy about Memphis. We'll get into Memphis, but
you know, Fat Joe gotta always tell a story right
here Memphis. So I'm hosting this tour for bud Light,
and it's every city they got an NBA team and
the star right so every so I'm in Memphis. I
(19:58):
think it was Rudy Gay or body Zach Randolph. So
I'm at a party and then what's my man a
Bay Bay the d j a Bay Bay and he's
DJing and this's there's one. The place wasn't so crowded,
but there's one chubby size young lady who's by the speaker,
(20:23):
and she keep moving like like you know, she keep
moving and for some reason, I'm standing at her the
whole night because she by herself, but she just moving.
Every record they throwing, they asked some ship god googiee bugely.
She's ugly booglee god googily. Now they asked some ship
like that, Yo, google that, Google that because he thinks
(20:45):
he about the Cat the Bronx, don't they young, because
they're gonna say cat gig. They had some ship called
god Bogle God is WHI I'm trying to tell you
as I heard all type of shit I never heard
of my life. But I'm watching this girl the whole time.
(21:06):
It just so happens. I go back to Miami and
I told that story on here before. How my man
stand told me he went to the strip club and
they were throwing money in the air. So that's when
I came up with make It Rain. But the way
I work with Scott Storch is you book studio with
him and he could play whatever you hear. So if
(21:29):
you hear some shit in your head and you tell
him you can make it, life play it. But the
crazy part was the drums. And the whole time he's
putting drums on it, He's like, yo, you knew, y'all,
you fat Joe. You're digging into crags like I can't
(21:50):
make you no Dirty South drums, And I'm like, yo, bro,
I just went to fifteen States and everybody was playing
Dirty South records. And then one time, I think jay
Z had the rock Boys in the building of the
night to us was the biggest shit in the world.
(22:11):
And at the end of the night, Homeboy was like, Yeo,
I'm throwing the throwback and he threw on the jay
Z that was popping. Then that's when I knew the
whole sound was changing. I said, Yo, they got the
whole country in the Choco, because I just went through
the whole country. In any case, I'm in there with
with Scott saw Maam had an argument because he was like, Yo,
I can't give you Dirty South drums. I said, Yo,
(22:32):
you gotta give me dirty South drums because that's the shit.
So he's producing it, and the whole time I'm looking
at the heavy set girl dancing by the by the
speaking I'm like, no, nah Na, she ain't dancing to it. Yet,
she ain't dancing to it. He finally threw the drums
where I saw her by the speaker, you know, doing
that shit, and I was like, that's it. She's dancing
(22:54):
to this. And so that's how we came up with
making ran up in Memphis, and so Memphis it's got
what Yo, Gotti recipeacef dolf Ah woe realer glow, money bag,
money bag yo. And then they they're all, who's the
guy down with young Dolph? They just signed It's a
(23:15):
key clock, you know. So right now it's safe to
say Memphis got it, you think. So in the South
they're doing in the regional, they're doing more than that.
They're doing more.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The numbers, they they causing a lot of fucking problems of.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
It, oh for sure, but they they they know since future, right.
So what I was trying to tell my nephews, Nori's kids,
I was like, yo, you know they no no one
numbers telling me that, uh, the young dog invent the
trap and they confused. They're young. They're young, right, So
(23:57):
I'm trying to tell them, yo, what about had an
album trap music? So I'm trying to tell him that
that that whole wave. You know, Future pretty much created
that whole wave to me, like with the single rap,
like you know all that ship you know, he had
(24:19):
that ship lit and he still got it there.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So I feel like he's on Pluto.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
He's on the whole number.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, he's on Pluto.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
He don't really he really misses when he when he's in,
when he's when he's cooking, he's cooking with fucking fish beach.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Oh no, he's he's definitely he's like a Jady kiss.
You know, never had a whack verse this guy.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
He got fucking nuclear missile songs.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah for sure. I remember when he.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Catch wildfire and they stay on fire.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I remember when he gave water, he gave what's his name,
He gave Cali the Boy, and Cali gave it to
Acehood that I won't go man, man my Ferrari. You
know how that ship used to knock in that fucking club.
He gave the few, No, no, he gave Walers. I
(25:15):
got the keys, keys, keys, I got the keys. You
know we're talking southern hip hop. We gotta take it
to Miami. Three oh five bet that up.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Listen, the list is crazy man. Then first I was
you gotta start off with two live crew, Uncle Luke
and the boys.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
You got JT Money, j T Money. You know there
was this there was a crew, James. You would know
this crew. I think it was called Society. They had
this one record. I was addicted to this record back
underground real hip hop. Then you got trick Daddy dollars
Trick Daddy. You know that Trick Daddy wouldn't stop going
(25:54):
platinum and he wouldn't want to leave Miami. But I'm
signed on the Atlantic records he got. I don't like
Trick Daddy's a super duper hit maker and a chef
for real. Trick Daddy popped, No, he cooks for real.
(26:15):
I ate a little kromp Fritis that he made out
there in front of the parking beas the biggest projects
out there and in Miami. Uh, you gotta go. Trina.
Trina is like one of the leaders of all the
all the girls in in hip hop. You know know
(26:37):
that Rio five, and then they gave like it was
it not really, but it is the birth of Rick Fross,
Ricky Rose, Ricky Rose. I don't think I've ever been
in the club where I had that effect of hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling,
like people banging on the walls. Uh. The DJ would
(27:01):
play it twenty times in the world, hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling,
pit Booll flow flow Rider, flow Riding broke Michael Jackson's
record ten years.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Flow Rider broke everything. There is the break he ordered
mean lawsuit. They did him Greasy, one of them companies,
and he caught one to getting it.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Y'all shout out to Nephew, the whole crew out there. Uh,
then we could go on with ball Greasy, everybody else
who's contributions to the game. We gotta say Kodak Black.
If we're going to better, say he up and Yo,
how black he is Florida, the whole floyder. You go
to Tallahassae, you go to t Paint. T Pain's contributions
(27:47):
to hip hop music go unnoticed in the major major
He got the all I do is win, win win.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
No mane pane is Pain is one of them special
chosen people in our coach. People live on family. These
timeless yes songs that will be played our kids, kids,
kids kids kids who head t Pain.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Trust me, you already know we left anybody out. We
saw her And speaking of that, I never seen nobody
had a club on till I'm talking about from a
Miami perspective, like Jeezy Man Jeezy, he had nig he
had dudes running, They got rap song Bible.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
All you gotta do is hit play.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I'm your favorite rapper, favorite rapper. I'm a favorite trapper's
favorite trapper. He was going.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
He got the no Man, he got the Bible playlist
for trapping and hustling.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yo, shout out to Vera. You know Vera, my man
evil shoot the videos. He made the Snowman Deph Jam
paid him to make the make a logo and he
made the snow Man logo for Jeez. Crazy out there.
Shout out the ef eif did that crazy Yeah, yeah,
(29:09):
he created that T shirt. You know what I'm saying.
Like my man right here, Yo, t Mars shout out.
You were giving us fire every day and we love
to see he come with gifts. He come with legendary shit.
T Boks. You know, I wore your hat from Yankee Stadium,
and you know how this shit go. It's like whether
you you hit it out the park and you don't,
(29:32):
as long as they talking, you know what I'm saying.
Like I realized that this game, but of twenty twenty five,
social media and all that, if you're winning or you're not,
if they talking, you're doing great. Yeah. So they was
fucking me up because I had to delay on the mic. Meanwhile,
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your captains in every fucking interview, they keep showing and showing,
showing and showing and showing your I had your ship
in the for something legendary. And so when I did
that Yankee Stadium at the World serious, I threw that
hat on. Look at Jada Jaya like, yo, I'm rocking
his shit all the time. But he got the yank
(30:13):
young man made this water gwitty. You ever climbed on
the top of the Yonkers water shit, he don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I gotta be on the ground. I ain't. Now you
feel about flying, That's how I feel about being in
the end the heights. Yeah, up on shit, I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You know, my building had a water tower. In the
Forest Projects, we had a water tower and we used
to play hooky in there. Your kids, if you from Forrest,
don't do what I've said. But you know, we used
to skip school in there and it was like a
water tower, but you go up that ladder and then
they had like a little the round part in the
(30:51):
top was like you could chill in there, and we
go up to the roof. I mean we chilling there
for fucking nine in the morning, the three afternoon, and
that we came on for school. So in your neighborhood,
yin used to ride on top of the elevators.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
We did all of that.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
We was in the projects. We would ride on top
of the elevators and stick this shit. You know you
could stick them. I say, oh what up?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Man? And winning young three five four three five eight.
We used to ride on top of the buildings. But
where I lived at Wolburn and Ravine, they had the
Gate to Hell. That was an old like factory that
we used to play in that you could die anytime
you're going it was missing shit was you gotta go
(31:33):
up but the stairs is loose and missing any look, God,
no God, thank nobody never fell in that shit. But
now we was doing some fucking stupid ass shit is Yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Had one called dead Man's Hell. So dead Man's Hell
was like, yo, I mean, if you did it, you
might have saved twenty minutes. Right, So you go from
my block to Third Avenue where you go chopping. They
had some shit dead Man's Hill where they had a
wire and it was just like a little, a little
if you fail, you died to Night of Space, you
(32:06):
could do it, but the wire if you ain't get
scared you I mean, people were doing that shit. Grown men,
women were taking dead Man's If you didn't take that,
you had to walk around maybe ten fifteen blocks, like
it was some long shit. You did that in like
two minutes. You already halfway down. Oh more than that,
(32:28):
you already like that price position and where you want
to get. But that Man Hill, that shit was crazy.
Be like, we had no business doing that shit. Just dumb.
They Oh man, this is not me.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
This is the producers. I ain't even gonna blow them
up case you bump into him in the super Bowl.
They're saying, is it me or are the ladies slowing up?
It was a good two years where the ladies had
it in the smash. I don't fucking think the ladies
is slowing up at all. Gloous, glowing Nikki can never
(33:05):
she hit ship out the park, megan to megastar. You
talk about Cardi every day. She just dropped the new single,
that ship's on fire. They turned into megastar. One thing
about the females. They get a single or a good
album and they turn into megastars. Parsh South, but she's sexy.
(33:27):
Say was she fucking bigger than they take? They turn
the females turned into mega iconic stars. They get out
of the get somebody like Otto, Lotos Megas fucking you know,
she's not iconic because she's still young, but she's a
mega fucking star.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yea, she is shut out to Lotto. I fuck with Lotto.
But the women, uh are they slowing down? If they are,
they like at a nine. You know what I'm saying,
because they like two years ago, these girls was bigger
than the guys.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
The girls is fucking ship up. They're killing ship.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
But they really was fucking it up a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
They had it was no oxygen, there was even no room.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, they get the fuck out the game. She was
on smash. They was running that ship for real. But
if if they did fell off, they went to a nine.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
They got out of the orbit. You know, Ice Spice
out of head. She wasn't allowed. Yeah, but she wasn't
allowed she No, she's on some commercial on you type.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
She got some ship Kate Spade or some ship with
the Demo sisters. They played that commercial. But Ice Spice,
she wasn't allowed to lose her ass man. She lost
some weight and.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
People get it.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
No, no, it was off my nephews, just like yo,
we off Ice Spice. Just this that I've never seen nobody.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I don't got nothing to do with that. She lost
the ass with my nephew saying. They was like, well
she lost the yaller. They was like yo, and then
she got it right back and they jumped on it
like that, just.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Like that, shout out the Ice Spice man. Ice Spice
in the Bronx sort gardener. Nah, No, she be with
fucking m what's the name tail us with? You know,
she dating the football player. I've seen the guys.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Short's Garden, the Short's Garden. Yeah, I seen him.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I seen him in Carbone, you know, what I'm saying.
The private Oh no, they're doing ship.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
The females is out of it.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
You know they're doing They doing carbone. I've seen them.
I walked in the room. Now everybody gets in that
the room I'm talking about specifically, and they was in
that ship. I was like, okay, because it took me
years and years and years it to get to the
private woombs and to speak easisy ship. Were you you
(36:05):
bump into Dolan or some ship like that? They mad younger,
They right up in there.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
That's telling you what's going on out here.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
You know they got that boost. You remember you used
to climb the roof and then they give you the boost.
You jump up to the roof when you was a kid.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, step on somebody's shoulders. Yeah, you step in the hands,
step in their hands and they boost you up. And
I used to That's how you learn how to do
backflips in the hood orre you going between? You see
what I'm saying, dudes, and they flipped.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You know one thing about the at L The police
been trying to put people way away out there, like
with the young dog and the wire cell crew and
the what what's the other one? The wine, the Melly and.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Florida.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, I know he was from Atlanta. You're for Florida, Florida,
for Florida wine man blue one of them Ben Lucci.
Melly is Florida. Lucci is a sorry Mellye Lucci right
free Melly. They were trying to book everybody out there
with them ricos, and they were trying to book Donald
(37:14):
Trump before he went for friend president. They Trump still
gotta open they so they used that rico loose handed me.
You know, I watched that whole trial too, And what's
your man was? I don't know if we should give
me a shout out here? Your man who the craziest
witness ever created? What's his name?
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Woody or Woody? Yo?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Your Woody was out? No, he did let him, let
him free Woody Woody back in, although wood he fuck.
If he back in, they're gonna give him ten thousand years.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It ain't nothing, it's some light.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
If he hopped the train, they're giving him ten.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Street racing.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, he wanna show you out.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
He got new.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
He was racing down that boy Woody Cleveland wood he
is on that O. J. Simpson list. I'm telling you
wood he should not even be in Atlantive, Woody, what
he should be living in like Bahamas or some ship.
Because when I'm telling you, if they catch him for
hopping the train, they're gonna throw the book at them.
(38:20):
And he was straight up if we're gonna listen to
him and believe him, like I can't read, I don't know, ship,
don't this. I don't like that boy. They're gonna smoke
his boots.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
He was just playing stupid on the stand.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I mean it was very, very very entertaining. Oh no, no,
he definitely get That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
He knew what he was doing. He was throwing them
people off. This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Nah, it's crazy because they they'll tell you so far.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I was cracked.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Nah, you know now, I'm more like Ralph Crampton man,
the Honeymooners man. You know what I'm saying, Ralph.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Kram you crammed in. If he had crammed in that bread.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Cranson had a lot of bread. Craniall was down in Miami.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
You mean.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
TV show? He was fucked up the Union. Yeah, no,
he was fucked up in the app bad. At least
he has somebody to pick on. What's his man's knowing
man knowing, Yo, he was killing knowing the real Jackie
Gleason at Breck, the real Jackie Gleason. He was a
pool shok. He being my. He be in Miami killing
(39:32):
dudes for bread. Oh that was his gambler. He ran Miami.
You get Minnesota facts, Minnesota facts. He ran everything in Miami.
So that's who you know. I inspire to be man.
You know what I'm saying, Ja, Yes, yes, Joyce Redolph,
let me take you with Joyce arc Cornie d Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
That ship was the ship though.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
The Marathion's or New Year. You don't know about the
money moonings. This the fun, Ben Simmons, the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Have hold on one second. One second. I'm sorry. They
buying me socks. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I'm trying to be cool, trying to I'm trying to
do the socks and one five eight they got cotton.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
This go talk I rich cotton. He's saying, I need
like Louis socks and all this kind ship.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
What I just told you, you're getting one where it's cool.
We got I got all of the socks, but get
these from one five eight up n y c rich
cotton man they got.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I got an app out on socks. They are they
all trp.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Trying to get mad socks. You're gonna waste The ships
is one where like air Force.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
And it's over. So you said the witch cotton's rich cotton. Wait,
I got the rich cotton. That's what up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I ain't gonna bring it up a little.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Ben Simmons to talk about this Nix is in talk
with I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
This is it might be allegedly is something I seen
them in the sports world that the Knicks is in
talks with Ben Simmons. The first comment I seen is
fat Joe. No, that's.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
That's emphatically Nonsighth.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
For God, wouldn't like Ben Simmons off the bench. No, listen,
let me talk before you say why not. And I'm
not enthusiastically happy about it, but just look why Mike
can work. You don't we need him to handle the ball.
He can fucking hell of a pass it and he
can stick anybody from one to five. We don't need
(41:50):
him to shoot passing the Clarkson, pass it to the
big nigga from French and pass it to whoever else
they left it bridges or whoever.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
You know, I think about it fused because I can't
see that dude.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Houston said, we're gonna talk about him longer than he's
gonna play.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
If you don't listen to what I'm saying to you,
I'm confused. Like Ben Simmons is he's a wash.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
They hypnotize him back that Ben Simmons right now, he's
been everything's been from.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
What about the Young boyn read what about the Young
Boy around the world and AIAI. But he ain't been Simmons.
He ain't been playing and he ain't been playing. Yo,
that's a fact. But I watched you since my vert
I washed. He got he got it in them. Somebody
(42:42):
took it out of a porch. He had a supercore.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
He's been.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
He used to be a killer, he was the man,
but he ain't that. I think it was Philly.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Philly does something to him, Yo, listen or lady and
Philly a cheese steak. Something in Philly.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Shout out to my man, Skinny Joe, Skinny Joe coming
down there for that Philly cheese seak. My man just
opened up a Philly cheese seakes. I said, no, I
rolled by the line a million man mind. I was
gonna go go in there. He said, this ship the world. No, No,
I'm going next week. I go to Miami tomorrow, but
(43:21):
I'm going to the I just need one. But it's
the real deal. I just need one. But I've been
watching it on Instagram. Shout out, my man Steve Morleronald. So,
my man Steve Morleronald got the Italian restaurant at Fort
Lord of Delle. His cheese steaks are undefeated. But this
just off of face value. And segued to full Steve skinny,
(43:45):
Skinny yo, his ship looking real. And now you said
you brought up Philly. Yo. The guy's piece of ship.
He's watched up crash Ben Simmons, He's done. He's a
vision of himself. He's scared of his own shout out, listen,
now listen to mental illness, cracked therapy.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I got a delusion. I got one of your cunneage.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Why is the loser? Think about this?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
And Philly's my second home. It's my favorite place that
if I had to get out of here right now,
I'm moving to Philly. They love me, they protect me,
they they love I love Philly too. I think it's
when you when you're a rookie and they initiating you
and Philly, they take you somewhere, and they happened to
Markel folks. Yeah, happen to Ben Simmons.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
But Markel folks came back. Now he came back to
say Simmons to come back long time and then he ain't.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Even He don't got the Ben. Look, Ben Simmons just
forgot how to shoot. He can't play matl folks. That No,
this guy can't play.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
He can play.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Simmons don't want to shoot. Somebody told them, don't shoot,
and he the fucking mind.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I can't with the thing.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Look, if he gets the eye the tiger back, which
New York could make it get back, put it back,
and he'd be I.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Was at Boss, he was at Brooklyn. Ain't do ship.
Now let me explain.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
He wasn't even showing up.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
He wasn't moving there, ain't gonnais is gonna even help
you or fucking hurt you.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
No gray area within the garden.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Ben Simmons is washed up. It's over. There's no way,
no hope, no nothing. We can't rewind the time I
got hope. I cannot rewind the time with this man.
This guy's failing.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Men.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
She's fully in the gray area, especially off the bench. Nah,
he can't do nothing. I've been watching him for years.
I used to like this game, and I've been watching
him for years. I swear to God, I've been watching
your Marshall. Folks came back. He had a little spurk
went down to Orlando. Your man, best Simmons.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Take him to Disney. He might see three thousand.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
They gave my man Polonchio.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Why what did you call it? Pablo, Paulo Chero? You
mess making Noro ca Caro. Yeah, man, I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I'm sorry, Polo. This guy hold on, hold up, let
me tell you about Punk Carrow Punk Caro.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
He just got that.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
No, No, they did the right there. I thought about it, right,
I said, Yo, if you put Pink Carrow on Detroit,
they're the favorite. If you put Pink Carrow on any
team that's this that's almost looking to go, they're gonna
(46:50):
win a chip. So I feel like, of course Orlando
gave him the bag. But they also played like defense
because they was like, anybody we give this guy to
They imagine you sent point Carroll to Golden State, You
sent part Carroll anywhere they got a chance, if they
already got a one two punch at or whatever, they
(47:13):
got a chance at a chip. This guy, point Carroll.
I've seen some shit the other day. Maybe we don't
watch Orlando, but when they announced the deal, they was
like first NBA player with twenty five plus. I was like,
they put him in the names with like you know,
Will Chamberlain and this and and I didn't even know
he was doing that kind of I love him. I
(47:36):
ain't know he was doing legendary status numbers. That's what
he's doing. So I shout out, Punt Carrol. You know
he know he got a weird name. Don't get it
fucked up. His best friends had to study his shit.
He got a weird row Man, he got a weird there.
Pont Carrol, what's up, brother? I love Orlando team.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
And Shamguard just got a then coach job.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
On Sam God, oh shamp what's going on? Baby? I
got to cheer you. You know, Shamguard one of the
only people I know from the street that made it
to the league. So you know this, you know, Skip
made it. Skip, that's it. That's it, Rayfid Austin, that's it.
(48:22):
Who else in the street made it to the league.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
The Sham ain't from the street.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
He went the car he went to give I know
Sham from the street. Yeah, we know him from home. Yes,
he's from the street.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
So he in the league.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
He's assistant to college and killed. He killed in corp Okay.
So yeah, yeah, he killed in college with he ain't
do that problem with them, what you wanted to do
that in Providence? He killed him. Know what he did
in Providence. I salute him for what I'm saying is
to me, let me say, you just know Fat Joe
met him in the street street basketball. You know he
(48:57):
got the shamp. You know what I'm saying. He invented
to the move that every one of our players that
we think is the greatest of all time seventy one.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
He showed. He did hours in sessions with Kobe, and
he did hours in sessions with Jiji.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
He's legend. He taught them out of Sham for hours,
dribbling skills for hours.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
He got story. He told me shit Kobe and gig.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Listen, shamguar salute brother, because I've seen you in the streets.
I know you went to college, but I've seen you
in the streets that we could easily get lost in
the streets, and he was in the streets. So that's
just one shot. I tell you. I know Shamguard was
sitting on the block to three in the morning drinking
talking this like, Oh he was in the streets and
(49:50):
now he's a coach of of Orlando. That's that's huge.
He was in Dallas right before that. What you think
about Dallas chances? Kyrie, don't want to go back son.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
They just sugned the Angelo Russell two years, thirteen million.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I think he's good.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I think that's a good feeling horse. Can you see.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
By the dog ya listen? Nah, I really am not
a fan of D'Angelo Russell. I mean he's good close,
but no, cigar. I'm sorry, guys. He had his chance.
And what's crazy is I actually was there when he
got drafted to the league, and his confidence walking up there,
(50:38):
you would think he was the next Ai, the next Kobe,
the next MJ. Lebron. He will I'll never forget that.
And I remember to myself saying, Yo, this kid gotta
humble himself. And boy, the league have a way of
humbling you if you're not out there doing what you
gotta do. And so Angelo Russell, congratulations on sticking somebody
(51:03):
up for another check.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yo, with that?
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Why I look fifty three when you can look?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
I can't believe this.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
No, I'm trying to tell you the truth. Why get
thirty million when you should be getting three million?
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Thirty?
Speaker 1 (51:19):
I'm a little upset to yo, And I don't get jealous, man,
I'm a little upset. I looked up this week. I
guess they started the trades and all that. This week.
It's like five NBA players in the world with one
hundred million and better. Do you know what rappers gotta
do to make a hundred million? What's the percentage of
(51:40):
rappers that ever made one hundred million?
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Da grumble rappers made one hundred million?
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Not a rap, yo? How you watch these basketball players?
They said, No, you watch the ESPN. This shit's like, Yeah,
Julius ran dow one hundred million, three year deal, two
hundred sixty seven. I think Ponchero got for somebody as GA?
What as GA got.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
To seventy four?
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Carol eighty five five minutes? How much as g A?
You got any something for four? What the fuck? What
am I doing wrong?
Speaker 2 (52:16):
You don't know how to shoot the turning round. You
got the leg for the euro you already you got
the leg for the first.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Jumper to your look you got I got it. I
ain't got the winner need to come back. You don't
got it.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I ain't got a hops. That's what got you the
hundred mil. You got the half year. I don't got
the hop they go back. I ain't got the first
one you ha been to jump. I got the first.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Even you would have me, I got the looks this
dece even later it would have called you to just
you know, going out by had to move practice got
the one. You got it all right, SG A two
eighty five million without the comp like four years, no
(53:05):
agent fee, no agent fee, fuck, pure money.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Pure.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
The boy got his own money. Joey got his own ship.
And I just want to know what the fuck were
doing wrong. My legs are bad.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
They can't shoot the turnaround, man, joe this ship is
you know how to do this? You know?
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Because you ever noticed these ball players they want to
be rappers. I don't know what for? Did you know?
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I mean, let me speak on that.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
They do they want to they don't they let me.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
I figured it out ballplayers like rappers. They don't want
to be They want ballplayer money, but they want to
be rappers with their contracts. If they had to switch
like a hobacks gonna be less ball players. They would
be playing the pianoing on. They wouldn't want to rap.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
They wouldn't want to rap if they figured it out.
I just think everything was procession rap they get. I
think it's smoking mirrors. I think the ballplayers think the
rappers got as much money as done they've been watching.
I'm telling you, bro, I'm telling you, I'm sitting next
to Jeff Teg how much money Jeff Tag made it
his career? Yeah, you right, pretty good? What's pretty good?
(54:18):
I'm saying over fifty See how much good he said
doing this? Hold on? He signed a three year fifty
seven and twenty seventeen. And then what else we got
more than that? Whoever? You know what fifty seven million is?
By the way, the man told me, yo, I remember, yo, team,
one of these things. You was nearly one hundred. You
(54:41):
was driving a black bet like fuck you can you
got a hundred million like ninety eight point eight to
be exam They look at us ninety eight point eight
that's on the what like, he's not on a low ad,
that's on the low lower end.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Mind, Go see where I'm from.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I used to go see Ronald Tests and fucking Queensbridge projects.
He had when he got that like forty million or something.
He had an old school pickup truck. He used to
play for me at the Rock. I would go to
Queensbridge to get him. He's sitting out there with sound
chancletos on front of the bell like somebody ain't telling him, Yo,
you're filthy rich superstar. And he was out in the
(55:23):
projects in the summer every day. And by the way,
Runal Tests is undefeated in the Rucker's history. He never
played a game that he lost. So if he played
a hundred times, you could have bet the kitchen sink
on him. He never lost. One time we had a game.
He cut himself all the way here, he taped the ship,
still won the game. Runout Tests. He was different. But
(55:49):
it's safe to say I would switch with the ball
players any day, and a baseball player, Yo, we gotta
wrap this mad Rinaldo shit. Ronaldo is Saudi Arabia again,
like five hundred million taking the plane to Dubai every
day there's a thirty minute flight taking the He lives
in Dubai. It's seven hundred million over to respectful ship
(56:14):
and he flies over there for the game and flies
back into private like a joke. His kids ain't dun yo.
This ain't that, that ain't this, and this cracking kiss
baby the biggest fucking show in the globe, A phenomenon.
Rookies in the year. We're gone for that number one spot.
(56:35):
And let me tell y'all, I see y'all shaking in
your boots. Were coming to train this coming baby, to
train this coming sh see you
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