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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know we said the break wait because we're having
a blast out here.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
No social media was fucking shup.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Up yo, what up y'all?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
This is Joe Crack the diggity don Jiglin, don't play.

Speaker 5 (00:29):
Yourself, shit boy, Jada. This is the Joe and Jada Show.
Every show legendary, every show iconic. I mean, this particular
episode is gonna be one of my favorites because I
love sports.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
And when you think about our next guest, think about
being a part of arguably one of the best college
basketball teams in history. When you think about my next guest,
you think of the old NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Think of tough defense.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
You think of a center and that I can stick
off other four positions on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
You think of, you know, just toughness, New York grit.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Think of a good person coming from a good family,
a good father, good human being. Ladies and gentlemen, make
some noise for our brother joking.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Noah, it's an honor. It's an honor, my brother, no doubt,
you know what it is. It's an honor. Man honored
to be here.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
We appreciate having you, I know, my man, the Phil
Jackson and the Rutgers over here. He couldn't wait to
have you up here. Yeah, I mean, you can't tell
him nothing. He's He's the Greg Popovich of the street ball, right,
you know, explain to you, man, he asks me.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Now you got this.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Your ship is mixed with Marlon bread though. Now with
you where you want?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
No, I don't mean no shit. I don't mean no
shit like that. Well, I'm just trying, I say. Is
just now people are starting to say, Yo, y'all got
too many guests on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
What happened?

Speaker 4 (02:04):
And just Joe and Jada? But what you doing? Legendary
guys like this pull up and they available. We're gonna
put them on the jont.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
First dage first. Anybody that's somebody that come to the city.
You know where they coming here? I like that, anybody
that come to the city.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I took the plane. I took the plane to come
and be on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
They fling into your show.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Shit took the plane.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
He flew.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
They talking cam and j Cole. I know you're a
fan of hip hop.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
What's your first show? I walk off? Yo?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Why you want to walk off?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Can want to get into this ship?

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Man?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
You don't you kid?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'm not getting this ship.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I'm asking you, sh hip hop show what you think
about this? All what they saying online? Who's better Cam
J Cole or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
So for me, I moved to New York City from
France in ninety eight. To me New York City hip
hop around that time, this shit shaped my life, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Like I come to New York City, I'm talking English
like this with the accent.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
And stuff, all frenchy. But then Tony Parker, you know
what I'm saying, Tony Parker shit. And then I get
to New York City and the fucking hip hop is
just going nuts. Like I'm coming from France, and then
all of a sudden, I.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Kissed bitch ass nigga. I got the hood.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Won't miss you, bitch ass nigga. You know what I mean,
I'm like, oh shit, the fuck is this? So I
had to learn along the way, you know what I'm saying.
But that was you know, I love basketball. Next thing,
you know, I'm going, I'm going uptown. I'm playing basketball
with the guys and New York Like its shaped me.

(04:00):
It shaped me if I didn't have New York City,
if I didn't have the hip hop because the street
ball and the hip hop was so connected, and you
don't see that anywhere else like that, Like Joe, like
I remember you pulling up at the rucker, you know
what I mean, you got all your guys with you
were playing you and the chip.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
We lost the chip. I missed a couple of free
throws at the end. O see. But I had a
question for you about that.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Because this shit fucked me up because they cast some
real bullshit on me.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
So did you did you pay the reps? Definitely? Buttered up?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Somebody I need to know because this is this was
what like twenty years ago.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Everything I earned was legit.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, you know what they did?

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Just I want I just everything I earned was legit.
You know. With me, we won five chips. B on
the sixth one we got robbed and so we was
up like eight points for like twelve seconds and they
kept calling five five and the other team.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Just the crowd been to see me lose.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
You know how people hated Kobe and all this, but
when he passed away, you realized, Yo, we lost the treasure.
It was like we were winning so much, so we
had fans who just wanted us to lose, and when
we lost and were walking out the park, they barely
even celebrated. It was like, not like this, So I
know what you felt like, but we didn't. I left

(05:22):
because I was getting disrespected at the worker. I would
have stood for twenty years, but they start doing shit, y'all.
Only two people could come in all this this. I'm like, yo,
I don't know if they know we get in this park,
then you know what I'm saying. But they robbed me
the one year I lost and we came back. The
next year we blew them out paused in the championship, you.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Know, and I got on the mic.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
I got real nasty with him because you know that
coaching really was my life.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
You know.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
I tell everybody when I died, that casket gotta go
through the rucker.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
You know how it goes through your neighborhood, because I
had some of the greatest years of my life. But
you didn't answer the question. Jay Cole and Campbell, you're
just saying New York shape your right, not that.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I mean killing man.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
This is yo, This is okay. I mean, it's like
big punt. I remember I coming to New York. I'm
listening to it and I know you from with elementary school.
I'm like, oh shit, yo.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
This is different. Different, it's a different area.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Our kids, the youth, they're being very disrespectful and they're like,
fuck you, you old motherfuckers. And I had some of my
nephews style on me with clothes I wore in videos
and flow Joe. They was like, Yo, this is the
new shit. We got the fly I see, yo, bro,
we wore that shit in ninety four ninety five. The

(06:43):
other day, I'm looking at Joey Badass, who is a
friend who I got super loved for. But he's sitting
at the.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Nick game course. He got the trench hat on.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
So they bring it back all the old But the
youth might look at that and be like, Yo, the nigga,
Joey Badass wearing this shit of a lifetime. That shit
it's crazy. But yo, guys like this is all recycled
ship And so Jada, my business partner, is telling me
to mind my business with that right there.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
No, I'm not whose phil Free. I'm telling you I'm
minding my business.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Why are you mining your business? We gotta hit it
involved it.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
You say, lawsuit that turned into some internet ship and
we don't even know what's going on here.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
The lawsuit ship was kind of like, come on, man,
I don't know whats going on in twenty twenty five,
let's talk about that.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
We come in and work there. Hey, I'm trying to
stop support my brother. You know what I mean. I
go to all of the location's third half to seven.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I don't want Yeah, I stopped thinking against the Timberlands
for work.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I go and see my man, Serge Wilson. He give
me one eight and a half and one that.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
What is it? You could trust? He showed me one
and a half? Brad, you could trust? Y'all tell you
come on, y'r tey. This is global people coming in
from all the first to go to up and wash
seau and bars everything. They gave you a ten and
a half and then that's about.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's the only trick in the and a half. They
had to meet a quota.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
I must have said, yo, I need you to sell
ten pairs attempts today, and they gave.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
It to j Jada.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Here's a twelve min shopping etiquette. My etiquette is so up.
When the display is eleven and a half and up.
They don't got my side. Now Will goes downstairs. He's
taking too long.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Will might have.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Got it. He come back up. The box is a
little bit old. You know, we got it.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Catch out we somebody. Yo, My good job man. You
made the quote ten and a half one and alf
your kiss go, I'm not watching.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I ain't gonna lie to I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Kiss. That's legendary.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
That's a legendary story.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
The most sizes. Talk to me the best everything. We
hit the phone on this, Why hit baby, that's the money.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, whyet it's a big one.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Kiss.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
It's so big one, biggest in my life. Alright, alright, train,
I'm on the I'm on the podcast. Now the wire hits.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
What kind of side deals? You got?

Speaker 4 (09:27):
No side deals? It's just God bless America right now.
That's the that's I've been waiting for that ship. You know,
it's so hard, man, it's so much. It's almost like weight, right,
It's so hard to lose weight, it's so easy to gain.
It's so hard to make money, but so easy to
spend this ship. You know we just got let's not
talk about no money, no more. Listen, you're fucking with

(09:49):
my store up in YC. How many how we treat you?
What's the servicing up in YC? How do we get it?

Speaker 5 (09:55):
I won't save my percentage off, but I get I
get treated well.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Street mail Ome, I go in the back, used the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Just Wilson fucked you with the tedd and a half
and the eight and a half.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yo, that's the oldest ship.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
They lined me up the search telling them I do
listen talking to Search.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Wilson did the old kiss.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
I gotta be honest with you kiss. I'm not gonna
lie to you. I think you've been lined up. They're
gonna be out. They lined you up. Nigga had a
pair of boot he gave me the kiss. Let me
tell you something. We used to get it like that
in jew Man, they was just store, not being offensive
to nobody.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Street.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
It was a store caught you man in the bronx
that had all the fly ship them niggas was the
king of giving you a size eight and a half
and the twelve like and once you leave, they be like,
we sold out, so you gotta pick something else.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Of robbing you.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
A few stops down on the train, after you buy
all your snorkels, all of that shit.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know, I grew up in there.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
I would have never owned the store if it wasn't
for Rose, Teddy Sheldon, all those guys. They taught us
to retail business. Simon passed away, Melvin passed away. I'll
tell you one thing. I was the only guy they
would say, Joe, when I opened the door, you run
that way as fast as possible. You see those four
guys across the street. They're gonna rob you. So I

(11:17):
used to get my sneakers and have to run like bucket,
run up to the train. Because I knew graffiti. I
knew how to like jump off the train. So if
you follow me in the train, and you know we
stuck in the train, I know how in between the
train to jump off and then run back down and
get the fuck up out of there. So that was

(11:38):
my ship, the train. But YOJ Man was legendary. But
they got that from there. I'm sorry about that, brother.
We will replace these these these boots right here as
soon as you you blink, brother, and don't.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Worry about it.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
I got you and we got my brother here. You
gotta tell me about them back then, it's hard to
win one chip in anything, but they get two inch
see double a chips.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Back the back.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Tell us a little bit about that. Tell us shout
out to that old team. Shout out to coach Billy Donovan.
Shout out that everybody that was involved in that. Let
me a little sall of fame. Coach Coach Donovan just
got in. I was actually I was there with AI,
so I was able to be in the building and speech.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
It was dope man, super dope.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Shout out my man Bruce ki Al Horford playing Green Bristopher.
We had a we had a squad man and after
we win the chip, you know, they was like it's
time to go to the league.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
But we was having so much fun. You know that
we we came back again.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Not a lot of guys would say.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
No to no, no, no no, And I electively though,
we cont all come back, so you know, no bread
on the table, just going out there and just handling
the business.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
These are my best friends, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
So I remember even going into the league, it wasn't
like guys weren't even happy to go to the league.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
We was having so much fun. He was missing that
camaraderie of that, Like, that's the ship about basketball. It's
like the chemistry.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Everybody want to talk about stats and the top guy
in this but when you have good chemistry on that court,
you can't take that shit for great. You might never
have that ship again. Oh you know what I'm saying. So,
and that goes for everything. That's not just basketball, that's
just life. You know what I'm saying. You got to
treat your people right and take care and protect that
because that shit is fragile, you know what I'm saying.

(13:32):
So I cherished those times. Man, I'm proud. I'm proud
the fact that you know we said the bread, the
bread could wait because we're having a blast out here,
no social media.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
It was fucking shit up.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
You motherfuckers that you ain't going to same school with
Aaron Hernandez.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right, we did it, did man.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
That boy was busting his ham out there on the compleat.
He was going crazy, your Aaron and Nanda you know him.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
He was in the same dorm, same dorm.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
You're lucky I never stepped on this kiss hold up
kiss so shit?

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Oh shit, So you were in the same place with
Aaron and Nandez yes, did you know he was bunked
out like that?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
No money, not not like that, not like that. When
I saw it, I was like.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
He said, he killed the motherfucker on the Campaigs.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Now you're not no, no, no, we can't. It's a
sad story.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Man.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Listen, I got I got my man John Beeson. What
what's John Peason's stats?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Rich?

Speaker 4 (14:39):
John Beeson was on every All Star team everything on
the Giants, probably the greatest player of fucking you am this.
He told me Aaron Hernandez would be on the line,
you know, when they be on the line, he'd be like, nigga,
I kill you nigga, and the you know, football's like
and then we watch every week like the hits that this.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
He told me.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Aaron Hernandez used to tell them like, yo, I will
body you niggas you come.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Like everybody shut the fuck up.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Like he was this silent majority lit'sten kiss That dude
was talking to them where they was like they didn't
know what they knew because the way he was saying,
he was saying ship like he was saying, yo, bro,
you know yeah this, yeah, I shoot your mom's nigger,
Like what everybody was like cheeps like he was on
one legend, but at that time he was just fun.

(15:34):
He was He shot a nigga in the eye at school.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
The ship that's fucked up is like you.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
We talk a lot about Hernandez, but there was a
lot of really good brothers out there like this. They
want a chip too. So we won, then the football
team won, and then we want to get so school
is on fucking fun on fire. But it's a it's
a sad story. There were other killers on that team too,
But that's another that's a that's another story.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, that's another store. No, that's tell me about the
guy who are shot the place over there by the
bow Jangles and ship. Let me tell you something. You
had some bugged out motherfucker's on your ship. That motherfucking
I never forget Aaron Hernandez. No, no, hold up, listen,

(16:25):
I remember Aaron Nanande's. They walked him out of that
man ship. I never forget how he spit on the floor.
I said, oh, he did this ship. You see how
they brought him out, He said, almost like when Cosby
was walking out of court, and he went, remember when
Bill Cosby was walking Yo, you remember when Bill Cosby

(16:46):
walked out the court and said, that's why Aaron Hernan
they bought him out a double burder, Aaron Hernanda.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
They might even like, oh Cosby do that? Was that?
Some niggas is crazy. It's one I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Aaron Nandez, Yo, there's a legendary spit. He walks out
of the mansion. They walking him out from Murdy. He's
like I said, Oh he did the Bill Cosby. Bill
Cosby had walked out with Bill. Bill might have got
that ship from Aaron Henandez.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Bill didn't do a spit. Builders did it? Oh shit, we.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Gotta start that shit.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Legendary Purp walks. Scotch crazy, yo, Legendary purp walks. But said, yeah,
you knew Aaron Henandez. Damn, this nigga don't win and
got a hundred flags. Now they they it's gonna be
a flag show.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
We talk about championships. You want to talk about Aaron Hernande.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
No, because the ship hit me like I was just
talking to you and I said, oh shit, it's the.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Same school, same school.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
We're airing a legend le ya yo went it?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Who is tony ya yo?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Right? They used to work with us.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
He he was in there school with all of them. Now,
that must have been a time. You know, me and
you were more like sitting buddies. I don't know if
you call that. Me and you many games at the
Rucker and uptown we sat next to each other and
the bleachers and analyzed the game, you talking about it.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
That was just sick. Fly I'm not even I'm not even.
I'm hold my flag. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Me and you watch many games off at the Rucker
and and and Dykman and all that, and they Butter
loves you. Shout out, he's on his way.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
He's on his way. Shout out the way, Shout out
a whole lot of game. He just got his book out.
Two whole lot of game. Go check it out. One
of my brothers he used to get pissed at me
in the street ball tournaments. When I used to get
the defensive rebound. I used to bring that ship up myself.
The fuck you do it? Fuck you doing man? Just
give the ball to the point guard. I used to

(19:02):
you know, I used to like bringing that ship up
myself that. She used to stress him out.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
That was ahead of the time. He was ahead of
your time.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
But let me ask you something now that you saying
that this motherfucking win but Yamba, Holy shit, what the
fuck is wrong with winm but Yamba. I've seen him
crossing dude four times, coming up, crossing him to death.
Nigga seventh? What what? What? What? What? What coming up there?

(19:31):
I like a like, like is this normal?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Shiit?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
No? I've never seen no ship like he was working with.
He did some other off season work. Your kids.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
You wanted to go see the monk kids, the monks.
We gotta keep it a buck kiss. I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
He's doing some shit.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Nobody never did.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
But he's seven to one, seven seven. He grew two
inches this year.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
He grew Jada the man, come down. I'm talking about
this one player. I want you to really go this.
He takes it out the defensive dude picks him up
all the way. He crossed them four times, went through
the ship and dunked backwards like this ship is like
it's everything we know about basketball, or we think we know,

(20:16):
right because you're a huge basketball fan, I am. He
played the game. I have never seen this sort of
thing like this is crazy for seven seven little.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Bit of gripe with the new way of basket.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Like the stretch I do too.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I like the bit. I like the old huches of
the big.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Man bumping bodies poured down on the block.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
That's me.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I mean, I can't do it the way I coach.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Okay, the way I coach is, I will embarrass you
because I wonder. All I want to do is win.
So if you a dude that you want to do,
I will call time out and I will in front
of the whole crowd, standing on the spot and say
this is where I want you here and pass him

(21:03):
the ball right here. He's a big man. I want
to miscaught. He don't do it, I'll call a time
out again. I walk right in the spot, in front
of the whole fucking park. I want it here here.
Like I'm not playing. I'm not like like coach Mike Brown.
I sat next to him. God bless him. He's a
great coach. But I'm not cool with Hey, buddy, thanks

(21:23):
for the like he's too cool. Hey Mike, that's not
what I do. I'm Bobby Knight of the coaching.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Shit.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
You gonna you're a big guy. You are not finessing
your way out of here. You're gonna have to bump
and grind, pause and fucking go to the I can't
do that. I cannot. Everybody gotta play their position to
do what they gotta do. And I don't care about
you know, because the one thing I noticed about coaching

(21:50):
is you could be the most athletic person in the world,
but you could be dumb as fuck.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
You need gumb You need a bro who is the
big guy on your team. Joe rest in peace, Panda Strictly.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Rest piece should have been in Hey, that's finishing breakfast.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
He used to dominate.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
He broke my heart. He came and he played for
jay Z. Shout out to the rock. He broke strict due. Yes,
they try to get Kareem read too. They gave Kareem
a Duffel bag of and he stood with the BX
and we're still brothers to twenty years later. I go
like this, look, that's strict. Finish your breakfast about me.

(22:34):
It's about terror squad fat Joe, finish your breakfast this
this that, that's what that strict line is about. That dude
went and I love strict every time I passed this.
So when I come from Jersey, when I come from Jersey,
Strict used to live in them tall buildings on one
eighty first, that's over the highway. Every day I come
down here to Manhattan. I think a Strict every day

(22:57):
in my life. He was so talented and he was
like what was he like? Bonus, who's the guy who
used to pass.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Bus? Father? Did he did? Have?

Speaker 4 (23:08):
He did the bonus r vetus.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
You know what I used to love about Strict though.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I remember coming to my first time in the park
and I'm like, holy ship, we had kingdom. You know,
one of those nights when it's just fucking lip nut crackers.
Everybody's nutcrackers, everybody's smoking blunts.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I'm like, so, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Strict gets the ball, fucking takes it to the rack,
he misses, He runs in the fucking crowd, He drinks,
and he takes somebody's nutcracker.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
He drinking the nut crack.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, you know, I'm like, oh, this is a whole different.
This was like it was basketball, but the entertainment, this addiction.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
It was an addiction.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know, this this shit changed my life. I'm from France.
Oh I see this ship and then I get to
so my first year Florida.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
And the hardwood floor with this ship.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'm here this What are you're saying the first thing?

Speaker 4 (24:12):
If no?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
It was like so my first year at Florida, I
didn't play.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I was playing behind Al Horford was playing ahead of me,
David Lee was playing ahead of me. So everybody talking
about yeah, yes, jokin, you gotta transfer into every just noise,
a lot of noise.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
So I'm like, you know what I need to play.
I haven't played all year.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
So I came to Harlem and I'm playing in all
the fucking tournaments that same right, I'm playing Dykeman, I'm
playing at the Rucker, I'm playing at Kingdome.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Voice of Harlem on the mic, I'm like, you know
you got Kenny a Diykman. I'm like, yoh, okay.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
After that summer went back to I came back a
fucking different It was a different animal.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yeah, because they ain't have that. I brought a lot
of NBA players, and I won't mention there was a
two or read that just you know what I brought.
And I'm not disrespecting because I'm a huge fan, but
I bought homeboy Jason Richardson after he won the Slam
Dunk and he wasn't the same guy in the streets
that he was in that Madison Square garden. You can

(25:16):
tell he was just intimidated. He never came with that
ship out there. You thought this one he was missed
a highlight after Vince Carter. He was the next guy
dunking on dudes, jumping over cars.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
We brought him out there two times and it was like.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
I got NBA players that I had to give him
the pep talk, smack him in the back of the
next Come on, guy, Oh, you're an all star, like
straighten up, like you know, papping back of the neck
and shit, yo, come on guy, you're an all star.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
You like TIBs, You like a street TIBs.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Oh, I love TIBs. I love TIBs. But the truth
is the truth. I had guys that were all stars
that were the most dominating the NBA that you just
seen them. They might have been shitting on themselves when
we get out there because they're not used to the
nut cracker, the blunt, the nigga come dancing in front
of you for no reason.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
God, come out the stand and start there.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
What and you you and the good you know and
and you seeing all the shit and you see everybody.
Then you look on the side fact Joe's crazy running
the crowd topless, five hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
You're like, yo, what the kind of shit show going
on in here?

Speaker 4 (26:31):
And then you coming and you're like, and I'm trying
to I'm this is the one guy. I don't want
to say his name, but he was an over star.
He might have been a ten time boy. He came
out there, man, he might have scored two points and
he was shook and he was like, Yo, but the
people are on the court, but this nigga, this is
hall of them.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
It's real, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Marchael and a couple of them really really excelled. A
couple of them was like really really they loved it.
You know, Baron Davis loved it. One time I brought
out there, Tino Moble League and Stevie Francis and the
Niggers was going. But now remember when they was the
duo Al Hamilton always played a mazing out there. It

(27:10):
was a lot of players that were Stephan Marlbury had
him every game, you know. Stephan Malburry at that time
was getting twenty two million a year in the NBA.
He was the highest paid. He played out there for free,
was coming out there. Then he had his brother Zach.
You not the whack Zach because Zach never made it
to the league, so that he was actually a good player.

(27:33):
But you know he's the Marlbury, so they expect me, Zach,
you not the whack. Maybe on the mic yo, Zach,
you not the whack. Zach go up in there. He
scores little ten points to go hard. But you know,
Stephan Marlberry's the most Uh. He was the most dedicated
street basketball NBA player I've ever seen. He cats And

(27:55):
another person who never lost a single game is Ronald
Tests at the Worker. He never lost a game he
played in runal Test. I had him one year on
my team. We playing the Chip. He splits. His whole
hand splits. You've seen that before, right, was like split

(28:16):
like he had like a His shit was split like split.
It's the championship shit is split wide open like he
needed surgery or something.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Definitely stitches.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Right.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
So now I'm shook because I'm thinking the omen is old,
Like this guy never loses, like I knew I was winning. Look,
Ronald Tests never lost the game. So the one game
we in the Chip, he splits his hand, I mean splits.
So I'm like, oh, we lost because the man not
gonna be able to finish this game. It's like fourth quarter.

(28:52):
The man gets some tape, he tape his whole hand together,
tape goes back out, it starts killing them. Yo. Ron
Or Test different, and you know I would go, I
would go pick him up in fucking Queensbridge projects. You know,
Ronald Tests had two apartments in Queensbridge in the projects.

(29:15):
He had that forty nine million dollar deal too. He'd
be sitting in front of the bench with chunclets On
in the middle of the projects where everybody knowing he
got forty nine million driving a dusty pickup truck. Ronald
Test he was different. Ronald Test was too just too strong.

(29:37):
And his brother right, what was brother Danny was? We
used to play Danny fuck you, Danny. Danny was big,
Daddy was Yo. It's sometimes That's why I'm.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Trying to take that Denny.

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Speaker 4 (31:35):
What player or what game did you watch Christmas or
something like that and you went outside and was like, yo,
you was emulating the moves, like yo, I gotta be
like this guy.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
This guy is incredible, I would say for me, like
I grew up a Knicks fan and my pops used
to take me to the games.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
So I was in the garden when Elga hit the shot.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
I was there too.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, you've definitely been to more Knicks games.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
And no, no, no, no no, but I was there
that game. I was with Alan Ovison. He was here
and we said it on the episode.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
He was with me.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
I've been looking forever for the pictures of that game.
But it's the other side, and we was in them seats.
We was like a little fourth row, fifth floor. We
wasn't in the court side, but that you saw that
whole crowd too.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Shit go crazy. So but you know it's like when
you're a kid. You just watching all the games. You
watching all like that. It was still VCR and shit like.
So I had all the magic Johnson tapes blacking I'm watching.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
That wasn't black and white. It was I was.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
I'm an old nigga. I used to watch Honeymoon's black
and white.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Honey Moon is oh, he came mooning black and white.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Now they got the they got the colored version. Now
I even got Wizard of Oz and color. Now they
redid it. The point is it was black and white.
I used to watch the Knicks when the ship was
black and white. I used to watch TV when the
TV turned off. You ever, you're too young for that.
Right twelve midnight, they throw the American flag. An Indian

(33:09):
dude come out and he look at the fucking pollution.
He was going green a long time ago. He'd be
looking and he start crying. The Indian dude with the
Indian outfit. Every night he looked and he see the
trash and he start tearing. And that's it. You wake
up in the morning TV again. That ship is off

(33:31):
all night. I'm old. I talked about when I'm a kid.
When I'm a kid, the Honeymoonist was probably like the
last show on with Art Carnie, that shit be going off.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Got the all.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Drew, then they got a flag, and.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Then they got an Indian dude.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
They're trying to tell you, yo, don't throw ship in
the street, don't pollute, you're fucking up the earth. And
he come over there and he start crying and shit,
And that's how TV turned off every night.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Damn, what do you mean.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
When you was watching what you was watching?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
We're talking about basketball right now, we're talking about the TV.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, basketball. You saying DVD.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh No, It's just it was more like it was
more you know, you walking in the street and you
just you doing moves.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
You don't even have a ball or nothing. It don't matter.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
You're working on yours in the street with the wow
just think, okay, what am I gonna do? So you're
walking up the black working on your ship. You already
there in your mind, you know what I'm saying. So
for me, that was my mentality as a kid. It
was just like I wouldn't tell nobody like, yo, I'm
going to the league.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
That was not how I moved. But the reality is
I'm a third I'm a third generation athlete.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Talk about it like my grandfather was a soccer player
from Cameron. My pops is a Hall of Fame tennis player,
only Africa player to ever win a Grand Slam, last
Frenchman to win a Grand Slam.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
So I grew up seeing all that shit.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Just know knowing the greatness, just knowing what it takes
to be a pro. You know what I'm saying. It
wasn't like, Yo, my pops will wake me up in
the morning. Yo's let's go for a run. You know
what I'm saying, Like that was my game. I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I wasn't more talented than half the guys out there.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
But I had the education of all, right, wake up
in the morning, the discipline of what it takes, Like
when I see you fucking tired, and I got two
more gears because I'm running three miles before school, because
I know nobody else doing that shit, and y'all fucking

(35:46):
up the drills. Y'alln't want y'all coach say something because
you got twenty points, so you think that you can
just I don't give a fuck with the coach got
to say, like New York City more than just like
looking at guys and being like, yo, I'm looking at
like this is what I'm not supposed to do, and
this is what I'm.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Not supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
A lot of guys should have been there, man, there
was a lot of guys who were better than me.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
What same thing happened to me? I don't believe it
happened to Kiss, because Kiss always been the best. But
when I got on, I'm networking in Manhattan, I'm performing
at Soobs, I'm going to lyricists lounge, this and this
and that, trying to get on, and the guys was
a hundred times better than me in the hood. And

(36:29):
then they got mad at me because I got on,
but they wasn't willing the network, go talk to people,
meet people, get a deal, Like you know, I snuck
up in the record label. That shit was thirty one flights.
I snuck in the record label, walked up thirty one
flights and I was fat, fat fat Joe, three fat joke,

(36:51):
three fat jokes. And I give the guy my demo.
He tells me I'm not good enough, and shit like that.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I was doing.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
I was going down to DC. How can I be
down and everywhere trying to get on. I ended up
doing Apollo Theater. I won four weeks in a row.
That's how I got my chance. But other guys was
one hundred times better than me, and they ain't understand.
They were like, we better than Joey. But yeah, y'all
don't want to put in that work. You know, it's

(37:18):
a special and an athlete's a whole different.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
I stood in Tony Parker's house for a couple of
days and that guy was eating like a bean.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
They was giving a nigg a.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Bean, an asparagus, one piece of turkey, and it was like, yeah,
go work out for two hours. He come back. They
give him some mother bullshit tolfoo this he gonna work
out again. He come back. I'm like, Yo, this shit
is yo. That guy there, Tony Parker, Tony Parker. I
lived in his house for like a week. A week
we was performing at somebody's birthday. Probably was like, yo,

(37:49):
don't stay in the hotel state my house. His shit
was a cun It was San Antonio, San Antonio. He
had a calm plex, maybe a hundred acres and some shit.
He had the professional him to everything. But I'm looking
at this dude, eat and he getting up. He got
a fucking chef. I'm eating all the eggs and pancakes
and motherfucker eating a bean.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
This this that I was like, Yo.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
This is Parker, Pops, Tony Parker. Pops just passed to
so plus peace.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Pops. Oh he was dead. Pops was dead. He was
on top of Tony like that. That's exactly who had
him on that regiment.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
That's right. This Pops was a dog too, Hooper nice
Chicago finance.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
That's when I'm trying to Loyola like with top score.
I went to the funeral last week. Ye had Tim
Duncan there, David Robinson like yo, everybody, all the French
players came. I'm like, yo, damn he love the boy
showed that. They showed out for him. Everybody flew to
Chicago goose bumps. You know what I'm saying for Pops,

(38:58):
so respect. That's well.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Speaking to Tim Dunky, that's my favorite power for the
boy all the time. Doesn't get better. Fundamental shit, man,
he give it to you.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
He don't even know. I remember that one game.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
It was one game.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
He was one of his last games, and he was
old already and he was still busting they and he
gave him every remember him never bustings.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Know.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
What I'm saying is it was this last season his
team was whack who. His last season, Tim Dunky's team
kind of fell fell off. Golden State was the best
ship we ever see. They fell off now right, it
happens to everybody. What I'm saying is they didn't have

(39:42):
that kind of firepower no more. But that boy, timmy man,
he ain't let me down. He still gave them niggas
like forty one. He went to the last oxygen. I'm
trying to die.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Grego used to send them out and put reason with
old age. He used to make and Tim Duncan and
he was he was cool like that man.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
They used to they were so good. The Spurs were
so good. Talk about chemistry. One day, Tony's like, Yo,
let's have let's have lunch. I'm not feeling like lunch playing,
you know, buddy, Buddy before the game, like we Chicago Bulls,
y'all San Antonio. He's like, no, come on, man, I
need to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Pop said that. No, Tony Parker, I pull up.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
These guys are all drinking wine before the game at
lunch I'm like, yo, good.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
They came out there still bustobly.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
So who's on your Chicago team.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
At that time?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Had we had young Jimmy Butler, You had Derrick Rose,
We had lou All Dang, We had Carlos Boozer, a
whole lot of game in this motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Come on, man, but what that we talk about your
lot on this show? Man?

Speaker 4 (41:03):
You wore your Harlem pink pants. You got the hall
of Pink, of game in the building, whole lot of game.
Aging Yo. So you have a young Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Young dere Derek ro we had.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
You know, it's it's too bad, man, because we were
right there, We were right there. I love I love
everything about it. Well she got you got lou al Dang.
Yet at that time, we had lou All Dang. We
had Kirk Heinrich picking up full court. That's the toughest,
toughest white boy we had him. We had big Duck

(41:43):
Brad Miller.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Brad Miller changed my fucking hole, my whole ship.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
But he one day after practice, he goes, you know,
he had a big used to put dip in his mouth.
Big country got red truck, redneck truck, exactly.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
But one of my best friends might have had the
veteran under the seat that could fly. He might know,
but the best, the best of the best Confederates that
his mouth more be careful.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
So he got the dip right, and he's like, Yo,
young fella, don't ever shoot a jump shot again? Is
what I need you to do. Catch the ball at
the elbow, dribble handoff.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
If he's over playing it, throw the back door pass, yo.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
So things he just told me two simple things that
changed my whole ship, Like, Yo, I had I had
seasons while I'm averaging five dimes a game, non shooter.
Just from that little just did this big fella get
the ball at the elbow?

Speaker 4 (42:53):
This guy's favorite balls for me was like saying, my
cou sell right, and every tell him I see Sam Cassell,
I tell him we got to bring him on the podcast.
Wasn't nobody like Sam Thesell. Sam Cosell's a coach. Whoever
he's teaching is fucking learning. He was one of the
last technicians. Like he's like a fucking brainiact that could

(43:17):
play experience as a motherfucker. And when somebody just gives
you advice and you could apply it and turn around
and make you so much better. It's amazing to me
and all. And that's dope for Brad because you guys
had a hell of a team, you know what I'm saying.

(43:38):
And y'all were just young. It's kind of like the
OKC team when they had KD they had you know,
they split them up, James Harden, Like, what kind of
team could that have been if they played together? Or
Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter they split that shit up.
You guys had a hell of a team and a

(43:58):
hell of a coach. You know, I'm a TIMS guy. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. I fuck with coach tibbs.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Man tis Man, all right.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
No, he got thirty million on the walk out, He's
all right.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I've seen him. I saw that clip. Y'all were wilding
on the thirty million bro. Well, you know, by the way.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
That don't want to coach. I mean, that's a hell
of a walk all this it's a it's a highway robbery.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Huh, highway robbery. No, No, he deserved everything. We ain't
been there in twenty five years. They should have gave
him more, exactly, not in favor of the.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
History and bring him back right now, like tomorrow, make
a big thing, bring him back.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Nah, shout out this was this was the best man.
It's sad because Coach Brown. The problem I got with
Coach Brown is his sneakest.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
When he got on. When you rocking, your coach pot
Tims was rocking.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
If it's over, if your coach is pie, your team
is pie. And Coach Brown he's my neighbor. He lives
around in the neighborhood. Everybody says, a beautiful guy. But
his fucking sneak is I'm not intimidated. So if I'm
looking at it, coach, yeah, you coach, you're the fucking leader.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
He might got some bullshits on to intimidate you.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Now he got some bullshits on. He got like fake converts. Nah,
that's not helping to feed either. It's not comfortable. It
ain't not it's anyway.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Coach Brown up. Wish you luck.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
The system looks like it's gonna work. By mid season,
they're gonna be the fluidity. He's gonna be riting another thing.
I want the job. I ain't got the pause, I
ain't got the heart to tell you in person. Because
I see James Dolan at all the games, but if
someone could tap him, if Clide Fraser retires, I want
the job. I'm giving up everything being you, the glory days.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
It's all of wrapping everything to be the announcer.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Gotta wear the suits.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
It ain't no money. It ain't no money.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
You gotta wear.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I gotta wear the cow hide suits.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
And I ain't got a fucking problem with with the
boy Pony Versace. I want to be the voice of
the city boys Holy make Moly Yadas fluidity. What I'm
ready for the jobs Jakes Swiss and feeling this ceiling,
willing and dealing, jobbing and thriving. What I wear the
fucking cow hide shuits in honor.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
All the clydes Mouth Clyde.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Other day, say something here, know Pat Rawley used to
have a hard touch.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
He told him. That's why he turned it to a coach.
He used to try to stick me out there. I
used to kill him. That made him turn.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
I'm not even gonna lie to you the other day.
You know when people.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Start dying and ship they He's not dying, right, but
you know what.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
People listen, listen. Everybody don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
I'm not saying that, but you know when people start dying,
the motherfucker dining on the death bed. He know he
going in six hours, and he'd be like, yo, I
killed thirty six people. They start telling they shit, you
know they dying. The motherfuckers start y'all, I'm the serial
killer of Alaska, killed the girl in all but Kirky
this yo.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Listen, Phil, they come to flex. Listen.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
I seen Clyde do something the other day. I never
seen him doing his life. He straight up said, I'm
the best nick, the greatest nick of all time, Clyde.
Don't brag like that. I seen him on the interview. No, no, no, no,
he said that with those lyrics, I'm the greatest nick
of all time, Clyde Fraser. I never heard him say
that at all the years he said that recently, and

(47:35):
his rumors he might be retiring, and that man was like, yeah,
Clyde Fraser, the greatest nick of all time.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
That was the chip he won the chip man. Yeah, no,
he wanted to hear. He used to clean his rose
voice with a chin chilla a little.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
As he deserves it. Well, he deserves it.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I'm with that.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
You understand what I'm saying, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Live in life, man, You work, card, you deserve to
do whatever the fuck you want to do if it's legal.
You want to wipe your car with a chinchilla, wipe
your car, do whatever. Ain't nobody give you shit. You
work for it, so whatever makes you have what's your man?
Jared Jeffries, remember on the Knicks, what the lightskin do?
He told me his first check, he cast it out

(48:20):
all cash, it through it in the bathtub. It slept
in the money. Jared Jeffries, motherfucker crazy told me this shit.
I was like what he was like, Yes, I pulled
out a half a million dollars cash, do it in
the bathtub and bathed in it.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
All night, like in the money.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
The Jared Jeffery, what's the wildest shit you heard like
a basketball player say about.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I never heard no shit like that. That's crazy, No.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
I've heard it. We were playing Boston and we went
to dinner with Boston and the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I was up there in Boston.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
And they was all saying crazy shit, like they were
saying crazy shit the ball players.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
They were young.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
They were saying, you know, he said he bathed in that.
I can't tell you the other ship. I'm really in
trouble without talking about I think.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I think the league now it changed a lot, man,
Like you know, like when you walk around New York City,
you're like, why does it feel why does the city
feel so polished? Like the money's so big that I
think that, And because of the social media and all that,
I think everybody's just on their best behavior.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Like you don't even they don't even go they're playing
video games. You know what I'm saying, Like it's it's
John Morant unless you that's right, trying to play China,
motherfucker want to play China? Not playing.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
I wanted them three years ago. You remember that ship
ay party. You watch everything I say, Hey, I wanted
him three years ago. I told him, Bro, you have
China's from over the water, that place thirty minutes.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Not used to play in a little bit of minute.
So he had the right hands there with their shade.
I know soon know he ain't drunk, he ain't bother.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Nobody said get shrinking.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Step for Maulbury went from twenty two million a year,
the biggest.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Player in the ninety seven times sis, they'll fucking throw
you in China or Yugoslavia.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
My nigga, don't care how nice you is. You not
bigger than the program. Fall in line or you're gonna
fall by the wayside.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Tell me about it. That's right or wrong. I lived it.
I lived it here.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
I got kicked off the Knicks in the middle of
the winter. I only have a job anymore.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
How that that was good? That was a good question.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Happen? Yeah, Jay rarely wanting. Who is Corny Horny horna
sheck horn Jeff hornisheck yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
What happened with him? He ain't fuck with me, so
he ran He ran up on me, like you wanted
to fight me. That's what happened.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
But I mean, look, at the end of the day,
I take my part. When I was on the Knicks,
I wasn't right, Like I just got no, no, no, this
is this is like, this is a fucking movie. This
is a movie. I'm a free agent. But I got
hurt the year before. I remember shoulder reconstruction. So I

(51:21):
do my surgery at HSS right the best place. So
I get the surgery popping, like you know, I'm taking
the pills for the surgery percumcess, like I'm walking in
the streets. But I'm a free agent, so I'm walking
in these streets. Everybody, Yo, Joe Keane, you're coming home.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
What's up? I get the call from Phil Jackson a
week before free agency. I'm coming to New York. Shit
is like dream come true shit.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
But I'm already on my injuries, piling up, injuries, piling up.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
I hate that.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
It's the worst. You know what I'm saying. I'm fucking ready.
This is like dream come true shit, and I'm not
right mentally. I'm in New York. The streets is calling.

Speaker 4 (52:11):

Speaker 2 (52:12):
I gotta coach. You don't fuck with me. Make it
rains number one about that time, make it rain. Making
rain was high. That was making rain was high. Making
rain was hot.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
And you know it's also you gotta understand when you're
playing in the NBA, the amount of money you make.
It's on a ticker like I remember going being in
the club when I saw my deal with the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I'm seeing people like, yo, look what Joe King getting.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
That's why my girl made shout out my girl, Robin.
She made baller alert for that, you know, baller alert
on Instagram. She made it so that when a baller
comes in the club, they'd be like, yo, ladies, Joe
kn't knowing is worth No, No, that's the true exception
of ball alert wich, so that you could like, like

(53:05):
know what these guys are making, Like that's a fact.
They know what you're making. It's crazy about that. I
don't disclose nothing. You go right now, they say, fact,
you're worth like a million dollars right now, and the
net worth, I'm not worth nothing.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Exactly. Don't tell them nothing.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
I'm not worth a thing. They told me I was
worth a million dollars. I had a million, eight hundred
thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Watch on.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
When I saw that shit the networth, I was like, okay, perfect,
I'm good. You know what they tell y'all. Shit, So
you out there doing the most is what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
I'm doing it like So I get kicked off the Knicks,
I get into it with Corny Horny, and now this
is the first time of my life where I got
a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
I'm young, but I don't have a job.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
So I'm like, yo, if I stay in New York
City right now, it's a it's a rap.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
I'm fucking myself.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
So I had to I rented the house in La
Thank god, I had great mentors Hamilton and what a
big wave surfer. So from end of January all until December,
so it was like almost a year I had to train.
I was training by myself. I didn't have I didn't
even have a team of block with that. But thank god,

(54:26):
you know, Memphis picked me up and I got to
finish my career, you know, playing off the bench for
a year and it was a blessing. But like, yo,
I had nine surgeries, bro nine you know what I'm saying.
But like, yo, come on, man, Like I got to
live out like coming from here and being able to

(54:46):
make money, take care of my kids, take care of
my family, you know what I'm saying. Like I got
to live it at the highest level. The New York
shit is like when I go in there, it's like,
damn it hurt. I wish that.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I wish it. I wish it would have been better,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
You know, they do that a lot. They have a
tendency of bringing people when they a little bit past
their prime. Sia Rashid Wallace.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Everybody, man, well, the Knicks do that?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Not now, No, no, not now.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
But the Knicks, well, you know, I believe that Leon
Rose and West changed the whole DNA of the New
York Knicks because me personally, I would have never got rid.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Of lin Sanity and Tims.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Tims changed the whole shit thing for twenty five years.
We're not even talking about that. I'm talking about the DNA. Yeah, yeah, right,
I forgot what happened? Who who somebody who's playing on
the Knicks now. When the Knicks read up his contract,
I couldn't believe it. As a Knick fan, we always
lose the nigga once they get nice, they go. And

(55:53):
they brought them back. I said, oh, they finally changing
the DNA. You know, likelynsanity I want, And they got
rid of in Sanity. He was Musky TV.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
The man was on fire.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Why wouldn't you bring the brother back? I didn't even
understand a lot of moves they were making. They wouldn't
pick Runal Tests because he was from New York. They
was bypassing New York players like Homegrown Born.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
The next at thirty years and trading away niggas that
turned out. They're be incredible everywhere they went Rod Strickley,
Mark Jackson, everybody.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
But one of the reasons they were doing that.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Was they too close to home. So what they I'm
telling you just from a fan, I felt like they
didn't want runol Tests in his prime. They didn't want
these guys because they from the city. They had a
mentality of the they too close to home. They control
it's a real thing. That's a real thing is from

(56:54):
the outside.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Then it's on the individual.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
You know, he's going outside, you know, just Smith's going outside,
brunting in heart, is in the livebrries in Westchester, chilling out,
eating wings and cannon like it's this stiff.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Is on the well, that's great, great that we got
some players they want to stay warming do they?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Thank God? God, thank god?

Speaker 4 (57:16):
You know, because on the strip club and seeing the
star of the ship and they're throwing money, I'd be like, Yo,
this shit crazy, These motherfuckers.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
What what in that same token Mason in them was
outside and it still was winning.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
This Nigga Zion got like thirty two strippers pregnant. I'd
be really fucking oh yo, I wouldn't be really pissed
if I was the fan of this ship and Zion
my guy. I want them to play the greatest I
wanted him to be. That's the last guy.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Bet to be a fucking thirty two is a lot. Sick.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Thirty two is a lot. Listen, you know that's the
fat Joe. You know what I'm saying. But I don't
mean it like that.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I don't want Zion.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
I don't want to know. I love you, Zion man.
I'm a fan of your game. When you say you
love HI about to say he got thirty two baby strip,
I know I would be really mad if I went
to every strip club and Zion was in there and
he's unhealthy and this and this, I'd be really pissing.
I went through that with the Knicks a lot.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
What's my man?

Speaker 4 (58:18):
He got shot in the knee, cle Anthony outside Starlets
they fixed some.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Bad that was disgusting though.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Any street nigga who had something to do with that,
you know that was disrespect bro the man an athlete.
You shoot him in his kneecap. It couldn't have been
that serious, but he should have gave it up, gave
what up they wanted. Oh so they was robbing him
in he.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
They didn't like.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
That was personal no, that was personal. They shot him
in his knee.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
That ain't had nothing to do with no robbery, just
me fat joe, criminal theology one on one that was
bigger than the robbers. They shot him in the knee.
He was fucking somebody girl. He shot him. I'm telling
you what must have happened. I don't know the facts.
They're not robbing the dude, shooting him in his knee.
He was fucking somebody, bitch, and they said, you know what,
this is the third warning.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Chaguito gave it to him.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Chaquito.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
I'm telling you, but anyway, you need to go back
to the rutger Man. I can't do it. Adrian be
trying to give me, hey, buddy, trying to get me
out there all the time. I can't do it. I
would take the whole summer off. I wouldn't make a dollar.
Number one, Okay, you could keep all your flags. You

(59:35):
want to keep your flags, and you want to throw them.
I'm number one in America. Wust Love is number one
in America. White America's begging to give me money. I'd
be like, yo, the whole summer is off. I got
a coach and me I'm a different coach. Hey, Butter's
right here, one of my greatest players of all time.

(59:55):
After the game, what we do? We go eat steaks,
rice and bean and lobsters. And it was a family
before the game. We stretched together. I get on the
floor this like I'm all in. But my shit, you

(01:00:17):
know it's crazy. I went to Harvard yesterday and I
gave a lectures that thank you and Harvard. But one
of the best parts of the movie Malcolm Max is
when some girl, some white girl, come up to him
and says, I understand my ancestors is wrong. I know
we wrong. What can I do? He said, you can
do nothing for me. Mama, you say, I'm sorry. You

(01:00:38):
know what I'm saying. One of the greatest point guards
that ever lived, the greatest handles ever created, was Bone Collector,
and he came up to me one summer and we
coming in the park and then we're giving out the
Terror Squad. Jersey says Joe my whole life, I want
to win a chip Yo Jo Jojo. He said, how

(01:00:59):
can I join us? Say you, my friend cannot join
the team. He was like looking at me and he
had the greatest handle in the universe. And I was like,
you don't want to win the championship, you want individual tievement.
And people didn't realize the rule was once we up
by twenty, didn't play the game. Alley, you act stupid,

(01:01:20):
but I want fucking to win. I'm going in there
to win. And you we played basic basketball till we
blowing you out. Now we do the tricks. You know
what I'm saying. Anybody, they ain't understand that we're walking
up in there to win. We had blue collars. Tell
me some of the big guys we had DP the Beast,
Remember the Beast, Oh my god, BJ, the Beast, Oh

(01:01:44):
my Bj. He had abnormal strength and he didn't want
no limelight. He didn't want nothing. Who was a coastal
see Syracuse. Now he played for US. Adrian Adrian Noughtry
never bothered nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
He played his team.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
He threw the backpack on it, took the train and
got out of it. He never hung out. There's guys
like that. Oh what was my man?

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
It was the Preacher.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
These are guys you'll never say they name. We couldn't
win these chips without these guys. These guys got all
the rebounds, made the right block at the right time.
Hey guy, you know we had guys that went in
there to really win. Who's like, yo, we're gonna win
a chip. It ain't just about the you know what
I'm saying, and so you know we're gonna get to that.
But it wasn't about that, and we you know, good times. Wow,

(01:02:35):
Derek Rose. Right, we had g Herbal up here, young brother.
You know he's out there saying, well, you know all
these young dudes. My nephew was crazy out here, man,
these guys are crazy. My daughter's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Gee.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Herbel said that Derek Rose is better than Michael Jordan.
He didn't really mean that, And so what he's just
saying in his eraror when he grew up he watched
them in high school.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
He didn't mean nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
You know what he meant, he didn't mean that. And
so what I'm saying to you since that in his
era of high school, he saw Derek Rose in the
street games, he saw him in high school. He grew up.
He's home grown. Yeah, and then he excelled to be
the youngest MVP. How unfortunate was his injuries, and how

(01:03:24):
great of a player he was already a grader. I mean,
even his last year he scored like fifty one somewhere right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
When Derek rose in his prime. When he stepped onto
the court, it was like the energy for the team,
like you know, you know, it feels like when somebody
pull up to the court and you're like, oh, were winning.
Every time he was on the court, you felt like
you had a chance you could win. I mean, we're
not talking about the athleticism and all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
The oism was out of control.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
He was out of control. He's a chiller. D row
was must sy TV, must watch TV.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
And but when the injury happened, it was like it
was like somebody died, bro, Like that's what it felt like.
It was like, Yo, we were winning the championship that year.
There was no question in my mind. It was like
we just lost to the heat in the Eastern Conference
the year before. We're young boys, and now it's now
it's it's our fucking time. That's what it felt like.

(01:04:24):
So when he got hurt, it was like we didn't
have a shot anymore. Even talking about it now, it's
still hurt. It's still hurt because it's like it's the
biggest what if. Like you know, it's like when you
really want when you care about Like I hear you
talking about the Rutger guys, Like I see how passionate
you are about the winning.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
He was all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
He embodied all of that, and the way he embodied
Chicago during that time, it was like it was crazy man.
It was like, you know, Chicago is a crazy place,
you know, different, Like we talk about street ball shit.
You can't even do this treet ball ship over there.
They can't do it. It's too violent. Kids are dying
every day, you know. So what Derek represented coming from

(01:05:10):
that and represent them the way that he represented that
every day on the court.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
He said, these young kids were just like he was Yeah, yeah,
it was all of that, and he was like humble.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
You know. It was like all that he did, the
way he carried himself through the fucking bright lights, you know,
it was like it was impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
You know, I see a lot of guys get caught
up in the lights.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
You know, like when the lights come, it's like, yo,
you don't know how you call you you lost in
the sauce.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
That should be a new term you bring back and
you recycle lost in this sauce, lost in this you
guys are lost in this sauce.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Hey yeah, but the best man, best human fuck basketball,
like in terms of brotherhood and the loyalty that he
has for his people, the way he takes care of
his people, like man, shut out pooh. Honestly, I'm impressed.
I love people like you see it. Like when you
go through adversity, you see who who's a real motherfucker

(01:06:12):
And when motherfuckers have real success, you also see that
shit too, you know what I'm saying, Like, can you
can you have a humility about yourself when you know
when you're around, when people look at you as great.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Now when you're young. I give every rapper a two
year grace period, right because I asked little Cocky Kott
who came here, he's a young boy, this on fire,
and I said, yo, I know what's like for people,
regular people to know me, Yo fat Joey. And then
the next day I got a hit and they running
like yo fat yo yo yo yo yo. For me,

(01:06:47):
it takes like two years to get off that cloud
and then we'll see who you truly are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Did you let the fame get to you, the money
get to you, the success? You know?

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
You don't know how many rappers I've seen coming home
and two years later they got a purple Yorky dog
with them and they start acting like they forgotten the
whole shit. So I give them two years because it
takes two years. It takes two years for a girl
who barely got men to all of a sudden being

(01:07:17):
sex symbol and every guy they ever thought in the
history of mankind is rapping to them every day at
a club and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
It takes two years for all that shit to settle down.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Soak in now. If you're an asshole, you're an asshole.
If you're gas or you think who you are, you
are who you are, or you come back to earth
and you pretty much who you are. So when you're young,
I could see people getting caught on that shit. But
then you gotta figure out life. Somebody got known what
they talking about out there. That's I give them a

(01:07:48):
grace period, you know what I mean. Anybody who just
come into money, come into fame, you know, they got
to get used to this new lifestyle of what's going on.
And you know, and if you full of shit, full
of shit, and we see more full of shitters, then
you know. I always ask Angie this Angie Martinez, one
of my wife's best friends. She's always in the house.

(01:08:10):
I'll be like, your a, Angie, don't talk sit even
though let me. But I'd be asking Ange your ae,
what are the artists? Because she's in the radio. She
walks them come for the first spin, and then they
come by the next year, the next year, the next year,
And I ask her quietly beyond the scene, like, who
are some artists she likes Joe leave. If you even

(01:08:31):
start to believe the shit that I seen on the
radio of how people switched up and they get caught
up in the fame, the lights, the money. And but
one thing that bugs me out about athletes. You the
man college, you, the man NBA. The crowd is screaming

(01:08:52):
for you, you walk in. How hard is it as
an athlete when you retire and you don't hear that
no more?

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
You know us?

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Patty Labell I just seen on TV She's going on
tour eighty one years old, Smokey Robinson in them they
still rocking eighty years old.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
The artist.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
As long as you got a voice, God willing, you
could keep going to athlete. It's an expiration day for real,
And what does that feel like, no, no, they got
the paper.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Oh no, that's what you're need.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
My neighbor ain't Miami is Jamal Mashburn. He ain't playing
fifty years.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
He's up. Oh he walk around with his wife like
hi Joe, like I'll be like damn. And they got
a hay here. You know, of course they up financially
if they didn't blow the bag.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Yeah, well it's more than the bag. The bag is
definitely a piece of it. But it's true. You're you're
playing in front of twenty thousand people, you know, for
as long as you play, and then all of a
sudden when it's done, it's like you don't get that
no more. Ever, you're not you're not the gladiator anymore.

(01:10:03):
Your frequency as a competitor, like who you are as
a competitor, Like you gotta change, Like I can't be
like yo, fuck that, that's not it's not that anymore.
It's not fuck that team, Fuck fuck that city. Like
we over here we coming in like it's not it's
you gotta if I if I live, if I live,
if I live my life how I was as a competitor.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Now you be in trouble. I be in trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
So I had to change my whole mindset knowing like, Okay,
I'm not playing in those games anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Like it's about bringing people together.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
And I'm really careful how I because with these with
these shorties, the way I talk about like this generation,
the game is different, The money is bigger, the expectations
are bigger, the pressure is bigger. When you get dunked on.
The whole world sees it on their phone. When when
we when I was playing.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Lump into somebody with the Beijing on the shirt is
added the whole world, season, the whole Kayling Brown, we're
working on him coming on the box. We winded ten
We're working right now as we speak. We're deliberating numbers
right now. We need him on a new box. That
way he can have a brand he could trust. We
winded Tennis the Rose Royce of hair coloring.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
I thought that was for bids, not for roofs. No,
that's what.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Yeah, we got the ship for this shop. We got
beard and a head. What are you talking about? We
got here too, Travis Kelce is head. We ain't got
no bums on these box but anyway, Jayleen Brown, welcome
to the family. Jaylen Brown, welcome to the family. Come on, man,
let's make it happen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Man, he better when I signed this ship. When he's white,
it better be no, won it wont and won't.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Come on, bro, you know better than that ship you
put fucking doing the show with me every day?

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Do I look like the ship? Come off my ship,
the rose rooye my bed.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
You're shitty, right, Joe came, I'm and be honest with you.
The first person with the ringer went off.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
In six episode bad My bas fucked up. I'm gonna
turn this shit off. Gotta be some friends shit or something.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
Don't let.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
You got a new show coming up, tell us about it. Yeah, man,
I'm I'm really proud of this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Like you know, first, I want to thank the Knicks
because without the Knicks, I'm in a position now where
if it doesn't get me crunk, I'm not fucking with it. Like,
if it doesn't get me hype, I'm not doing it.
And that's a blessing to be able to say no. Man,
I don't know, so shout out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
To the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Me and Jada is still doing the chitling circuit. We
can't say no. Our families want to spend money like
a motherfucker. They selling them boots that don't fit all
kind of shit. We We'll be at a bar and
Alabama for you right quick, So yeahead.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Shout out to the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Shout out to the guys, like you know, the guys
who got it done last year.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
This show turn me the show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
No, but I want to thank thank the Knicks first
for getting this shit done. Because now I can walk
around New York more comfortably. There was a time when
I was walking around the city. You know, people thought
I was stealing money every time I walked in the street.
Now the Knicks are good, I could come home again comfortably.
So I want to give a shout out to the
guys before we talk about the show. But right now

(01:13:24):
I'm starting a travel show called No Mad. I'm hype
as hell. I get to travel.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Nicks gave you this show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
No, the Knicks didn't give me the show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
But I just wanted to give a shout out to
the Knicks first before the show is No Mad.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
The show is No Mad.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
IM working with a media company called NBA Take two
and we start in Chicago. Then we went to Morocco
and we're using Okay, now it was Casablanca, Robot.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
You didn't meet the little man you were talking about
man like this that you fucked up on your show.
You should have went and found the little man. I
heard you talking about him before.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I swear to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
God, you should have went the muck of thish put
the little guy on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
You wonever your water in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Man, oh man, shit, man, this shit being bigger than him.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
He like in the box of rewind He looked like
he ducking and marquessh asks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
French Montana.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Yeah, that's crazy, French Montana. The little guy you fucked up.
They should have already known you going to Moronco, go
find the little guy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Now we found we found a rapper, El Grande Toto.
Shout out to my main man, Toto man. We went
to Casablanco. We went to his hood.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
He showed us a great time like this guy's like
you got.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
The guys that do this and shit like for like
hours of snakes the snake ship like that while you
eating the niggas just going like this, and he got
some shit in his head. Fowers, you've been there yo,
hours you eating. Let me get the hey niggas there
for like five hours. He's just going like this is

(01:15:08):
ship dizzy, like a motherfucker, Like he don't get dizzy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Best the best people, man, best the people over there, Austin.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
But we just went before her came. Melissa. We were
just in the in Jamaica with Rohan and we're just smiling,
lying and fucking.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
You know, Rohan Molly said, you know, Rohan Molly's my man.
Rohan Molly has been damn if I could have said
what I really was gonna say, I'm getting the flag.
But Rohan Molly has gotten to the bag in the
same place as a fact say, they say, behind doing
number one, you know they doing business. They're handing our bags.

(01:15:51):
When I opened the door, Rohan's in there already, and
we're like, he ain't fat. Joey starts smiling like we
don't hit the same plugs up a million times everywhere
I go. Your rod, Yeah, joe I'm over here too.
So Royan's a hustler. So he took you to Jamaica,
took me to Jamaica. Like talk about ghetto royalty.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
I mean that name, you know, I mean, look, at
the end of the day, what Bob Marley did for
the world, man, is just.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
And what the Marllys do for the world because they
were feeding.

Speaker 7 (01:16:24):
They people for years and years and gears and gears
they could trust the Marlies get I guarantee you right
now with this hurricane.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
They doing a lot of these guys don't never stop
giving the people. I don't know how they run out
such beautiful people. Man, they for their people. Man, I
trust them with with my life, the Marllis. I just
got to keep it real with you. And I'm not
their best friend. I'm not with them all the time.
But them people stand for something, you know what I'm saying.

(01:16:56):
They righteous, They stand for something, and you got to
salute them for what they do for their people. So
you went out there, you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Know, just like for Rohan and Steven was out there too,
going to a Hope Road where Bob bought his house,
you know when he started making making the records. We
went to Trench Town where he grew up. We were
up in Nine Mile where he's buried. Shout out Uncle
Rich for making all that possible for us.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
But just to you know so much of that of
that music just gave me so much power. While I
was playing you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
It was obviously like hip hop New York, but there
was also that part like the Roster Bob Marley, so
I wanted to just you know, show that. And Rohan
just opened so many doors and just so many cool
and really interesting interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
I got to interview Bob's lawyer, you know what I mean,
just like great conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
So, yo, check out check out my show, No mad
Where is it available at. It's gonna be on YouTube.
You know we don't have We're gonna have it. It starts
we launched next week. So yeah, check me out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
You know, I sample ball Marley one time and he
was not clearing the sample, and you know me, I
send the yard man the rosta.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
DJ Keller to the BALI come like, so the roster
go there.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
He smoked blunts with them for like eight hours, and
he thinks they don't know why he's there. And they
turned around at the eighth hour, be like, so y'all
come here for the big money, you know, for the
clearing's got to tell them we clear it. CALLI went
over there, I said, your cali came back? So why
I said your calend? He was so wide he was
within him for eight hours, smoking Bob malies.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Did they they going?

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
And they told him at the eighth hour they look
and summon, no what you're here for a star? You're
win the clear instead that big mind. You tell them
we love fight Joe, we love him. We're gonna clear
it for you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Call it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
Don't worry when no white are here, he get up
out of there. These people great people, man, And you
got that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
I got that, man.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
I watched that movie on ball Mally a couple of times.
I went to the movie theater like two three times
to see that ship. But I'm gonna I'm looking forward
to your show. I love shows like that. You know
my man who died Michael Kane. Oh no, board ain't
too Michael k with this call yes, uh huh Ohmark.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
But what's his real name?

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
But I'm Michael Willie Michael k He had a show
like that too that was really really dope. And I
like that because you know, I watched his brother. I
really got to get your name. I've watched you. I
know you don't know, but fact Joe watches you all
the time. It's a show on YouTube where the man
go to Africa. He go to Cuba, he go to Columbia.

(01:19:45):
I'm learning so much about the world watching this new
black brother.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
He goes abroad and there's a whole black.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Community in Columbia and the all Africans Spanish speaking, and
he up in there that Choco. He and Cuba, He
and Cape Verdier. He in Puerto Rico. He is Santo Domingo.
This guy go all over and I watch him to
learn the real Like they go into the town and

(01:20:16):
they not just glorifying the bad shit or this, They
just showing you what it is. Then come with a juice. Yo,
this is the juice from here. This is the meal
from over here and this. And I learned so much
from this guy on YouTube. I'm gonna find out his
name because I said to myself, I got to big
this guy up. Not that he needs me, because he's

(01:20:36):
doing great on there, but I love watching shit like
that and learning.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
And I might go to Cape Verdia now because I.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
Seen that episode and it was such beautiful water and
beautiful flowers. You know, I'm into the flowers of the
water and everything. But that's his name, Komori Martin is
his name? You sure I got the right one? Show
me his I don't want to get the wrong wrong
guy props because there's a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Man, I didn't know that Omar had a show like that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Oh yeah he did. And he was almost like, what's
that channel?

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
Nah? This ain't the guy talking about Nah. It was
a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I got this ship. It ain't the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
My guy ain't got no money like this. This guy
got fancy suits and all that. My guy's a regular guy.
Nine the father.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
He go out there and and he make it happen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
He ain't the one shot out hard rock.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
Bet you want to bet on the games and all
that NBA predictions this.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Year, you jump out the window future. Who you think
is gonna take the Age? Who you think is gonna
take the West? We're gonna win the chip rookie, Yeah, defensive,
just just early.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
You know, it's all right, But so East, the Knicks,
the Knicks gotta take it this year. They gotta take
the East. We love We ain't disagreeing with that. One
man gotta take the Knicks, gotta take it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
This is the year. But you know, boom who you
know more? I'm with you? Who? So?

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
And then in the West, the West is tricky but
I think it's still early. I like the rockets. Amen,
So it's it's too bad that that point guard. Uh
that fred Fred Vankley got hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Cleve cruise shoe. No he's Van Clee.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
No, No, what's his name?

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Yo? What's his name?

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
The lightskin? Do it from up in Toronto?

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Can Fleet close enough? God? Damn it? Van Cleef and
van Fleet ship, he's my dog.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
Man, van Fleet and Van Cleef is the same ship.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
That he wanted to chip in Toronto. He's a very
great player.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
But finally, fine, Kevin Durant is making a difference. Finally
they put it now. He went on the team. He
won a chip for free over there at Golden State.
Ever since then, we got nothing to do with telling

(01:23:17):
you the truth. He's gonna kill yo. Listen, it don't matter.
He's finally.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
He he fits in that system. He went to fucking
on Phoenix, stunk it up to all the places. I'm
keeping it a buck with you. But finally the chemistry
he was the right piece. I'm not saying he ain't
one of the greatest of all time. I'm just talking
about fitting in with the system. Right now, he looking

(01:23:50):
like a superstar with that. But they picked the right
guy for that system. Okay, see and Denver to me
out the west, somebody one of these twos coming out
the West.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Nobody. They ain't beating them. At the end of the day,
that to will be over their head and they'll walk
out the tunnel like they always do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
But MVP prediction. My MVP of the NBA for the
next four to five years is called womb Yamba. If
wim Beyama doesn't get hurt, it's a rap. It is
a rap.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Just give him all the awards, give him everything.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
Women by Yamba, you see this guy, your your butter
seven seven you missed what you came late.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
You know he's this.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
Guy's coming light Holy ship. He's over here. It's all
by the way. Somebody's trying to score. He smacking ship.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
This guy. It's his league. It's nobody else, Nobody.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
Wimb Yamba v VP New York Knicks Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Who else we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
Rookie of the Year. Gotta be if he.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Play accidents the ditch? How you took is it?

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
I'm sorry? He said the Knicks?

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Who else? What's the question?

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
Question is who you think is gonna win the chap
Who's coming out the west? Where you said Houston?

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
I said, Houston, who's MVP of the league? Wemby, I'm
with you. What he did?

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
You on drugs? You who's your MVP?

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
Tell me now, who's your MVP of the of the
fucking league?

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Luka?

Speaker 5 (01:25:27):
Oh, Luca, Luca. He ain't within his ship, Wendy. Look
at the numbers though, yo, yo, what look at.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
His numbers looking looking good?

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
Let me tell let's talk about this.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
Let's talk about this, because the biggest ship the youthh
and them.

Speaker 5 (01:25:43):
Okay, going back there all right now, the youth, they
stay out of that area.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Dog, you're not listen to me. The youth and them.
Last couple of years was saying Michael Jordan ain't the greatest.
He was playing against white boys. I I heard that
he played against what's calm alone, the white boy stocked
in the disc. The biggest ship, they saying in the
hood is he was playing against white boys. They try

(01:26:10):
to act like Larry Bird wasn't wasn't white. He wasn't good.
He was I'm telling you your kiss you outside outside.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
You should know this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
White I did know that you wasn't say the truth.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
They say that m J wasn't the greatest because he
played against white niggas. Right now, they got white niggas busting.
They ass dizzy nigga on TV every day, the joker Luca.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
You know the movie. Them niggas are.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
White, they won't.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
That's a different way.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
That's not We're not talking about all Americans, not the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Same white Now we got different white peace. It's very good.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
We got very different white who this Confederate ou all.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
Of them sits got a different white nigga.

Speaker 5 (01:27:14):
He hat this, yo, bro, For you to go around
the world and don't know that, it's killing me.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
No, no, no, no, I'm not talking about where the
white people. What I've been hearing in the hood, Yo,
MJ the greatest is the all time. He used to
play white boys. He used to Just you gotta stop thinking.
You ain't hear that. I didn't you know that? So
I heard that? Might I owe that every day? By
the way, I'm in the studio every day with twenty haters.

(01:27:41):
These guys are telling that ship all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
I cool.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Now I'm looking at TV. You just call Luca the MVP.
If it ain't Luca, then that right, MVP. He's a
white boy. I don't know if he's from Yugoslavia or
Serbia or whatever. I'm looking at a white boy balling.
When I look at Joker, he's a white boy baller.
I don't give a fuck of me. From Texas, the
middle of America, whatever, he's a white boy. They are

(01:28:07):
telling me that Michael Jordan is not the greatest of
all time because he was busting white boy's ass.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Not pause. I wasn't there. I didn't. I never heard it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
I heard it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
It's even the youth sitting and see him or something
like that. So'brian and Colb and this and that. I
never heard.

Speaker 5 (01:28:23):
They said he wasn't nice because he played against white people.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
That didn't even make sense.

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
I've heard Stockton and some of them white people with
some of the nicest white niggas ever played Herr.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Kurr was on his team.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
Horny Horner sat, Corny Horny. Corny Horny was nice.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
He's nice, Kerr.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
What was my man on Chicago? The boy that boy
was not pasing, pasing was nice? But no, what's side
of the guy Tony Tony cuckos.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
He's a regular white guy too.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Right, I never said the white niggas ain't nice.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
You talking to the rogue. I'm telling you what they
talking about study. I'm not talking about what. I'm not
saying you need a study. Barber's shop is saying.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Serbia, Serbia. That's a different Serbia. That's a that's a
different white Croatia. That's a different They've been through some
ship over there.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Sen You ever met the Hong Kong's Mongolia.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Man, you're talking about the wrong guy.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
Been all over the globe. I know what you're talking about.
I'm just telling you, all right, let's talk Rookie of
the Year. I'm giving it to the white boy if
he ball like he's supposed to. Cooper Cooper, who you
giving it to? VJ Edge doing work? He ain't getting
the same kind of publicity.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
But he fucking he's nice. But I like it. I
like to I like.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
DJ Kelli had a rule.

Speaker 4 (01:29:59):
DJ Calim was already rich and he dj on the
thing in the radio. I don't give a fuck if
he had the flu the months THEO, he would not
take a day off DJing because he always told me,
yo this somebody more hungry of me. He said, somebody
gonna come out here, and DJ's so crazy and they're

(01:30:20):
gonna take my slot. And Lebron caught a little sciatica
and let Reeves and them boys go, and them niggas
out yea scoring the fifties one?

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Damn?

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
What do you want me to yo? This is why
this is the number one podcast. We don't hide this shit.
Lebron fucked up. I am telling you he might be
on the trading block now without him knowing. Okay, you
don't think so, they're not doing that, Jada, Jada, Okay, Okay, No, okay,

(01:30:58):
Can I speak my piece?

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Can I speak my piece?

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
Of course? Can I speak? No?

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
No, Han's on the trading block. I ain't on no
damn trading block. Dog, he ain't never getting trade. They
let these guys go. Who's getting two dollars? He's never
getting trade? Can I say something? They just they scored
every fall of next So what? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
So what I'm gonna tell him in a.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
Straight You think I'm scared of risk?

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Paul fucking crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
Is it about saying so stupid? Bron's not saying not stupid.
I'm telling you that I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:31:31):
Ask him because he was on the trading Lebron fucked up.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
Comebody, Lebron took a couple of days off, and we
did you know that Austin Ree could score fifty one
points and forty points a game?

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Did you know You've been watching the games? Did you know?

Speaker 4 (01:31:47):
Well, hello, we know now, so you rather have Ron's
for so you think they'd rather lose a Lebron just
to have Lebron? Because then Lebron come and try to
take the game over. It's a rap, same old Lakers.
This ship they running right now, it's a new Lakers.
And I think he says, don't come in there and I.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Play his position games. It's eight games.

Speaker 5 (01:32:12):
What Bron is in right now is one of the
teams when he wins the chip.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
You don't gotta do that much.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
You gotta do jam was doing everything when he was winning.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
The Joe what James? You was watching? You playing five?
People know that's young Lebron.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
I'm talking after he's got with Wade and Bosh and
everybody else. He gets the teams where he can save
his gears to the playoffs, they can hold it like
they doing now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Then when they engage, it's something you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
Got your early prediction. Shoot me whatever, fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
The comments up this this that Lebron James is getting
traded by the l A Lakers.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
As soon as he goes hold and stick it up,
go up there and it up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
You bet.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
That boy, he's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
It's about them. His foot is gonna catch you a fight.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
He's gone.

Speaker 4 (01:33:03):
Brother, he showed it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
I don't got nothing to do it, yo' listen, you
man me. He let the chaut everybody, I don't got
nothing to do and spoke this chin out.

Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
He spoke this chim out. They got, you know, Marlon
brand A gonna come back from the death and ship
and then all them Jack Nicholson's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
And all them dives.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
You're gonna be like, yo, we don't. I'm trying to
tell you. Let him sit out of two more weeks
and let them kids keep scoring fifty something, come back
in the game and them niggas is going twelve points
running round behind Braun and keeps I'm not doing that
and go five games to eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Two games is a big difference.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
The Knicks traded Patrick Ewing Chicago Booze traded Little Scottie
Hippat Michael Michael Jordan's win.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Oh Washington, Tracy, he let all these teams.

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
He's gonna bet.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
These It was saying, this is ours.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
If it's something, if it's something you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Tweaking right now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
If it's something the NBA has taught.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
You, it is zero to no lawy ut when it's
your time, it's the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
And then there's Lebron.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Have you been watched that's what you're thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
And I'm trying to tell you like.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
You haven't been watching what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
That's what you're thinking. Can you answer my questions?

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
What you would? What the How powerful is he? That's fault?
How powerful has he been? Not no more?

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
I'm telling you right now. They put the young boys
on the get on the floor, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
He can get Austin Reeves out of here right now.
No you can't. I bet you no, you can't. Not
no more.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
Sorry, sorry, not right now, Not right now.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Baby.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
I'm a Lebron.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
You don't see that, white lady.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
I'm a cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Touching Norston.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Breaking news. They breaking news.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
It ain't wots no more.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Ain't it ain't wots no more?

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Something? Yeah, okay, he got.

Speaker 5 (01:35:12):
Twenty years, big great.

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
They'll just get Joe So millions of records walked in
Atlantic one day. They took the poster Dell and niggas
t I nigga, you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Still posted that you got this fucked up? Your day
comes you bug?

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
He poked his cheeky.

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
You got the most boy, I'm crazy gonna see he
passed me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Okay, that's all. I'm a disrespect her.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
When te more games twenty more, Yo, we're talking about
the ship viral Okay, to time the fell out. I
know how the.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Ship go on stop. I know how this goal.

Speaker 5 (01:35:51):
Left bro, because they gonna fry it anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
I know how it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Chilled me.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
He got a living of a process. I was a
living nation. These guys are scared to.

Speaker 8 (01:36:06):
Talk, like getting to get shuts out of this thing.
Oh man, when this comes on, Yo, came time, he
came a time. I'm not crazy, kay, okay, kay kay.
I was twenty one years old about twenty two. I
walked into Apollo Theater. I got a rope chain on.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Hold up.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
I walked in the Apollo Theater. I got a rope
chain on pause. I see a guy from the back
of his neck is this big? He turned around and
I said, holy shit, that's Mike Tyson.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
He's tired Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
Six years later, Kenneth Josh Johnson was knocking him out
of it. Ain't the same shit I want. I'm trying
to tell you. Don't get paid twenty twenty five for
what you did in twenty twenty two, eighteen or nineteen
or whatever. You're a die hard Laker fan. Rich if
Lebron comes in, hold up, if Lebron weak, you know,

(01:37:08):
actually mostlaw you fan tweaky.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
You're a Dallas fan after they you know, not so
bollowing me's tweaking. Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
Tell them Lebron comes in the twenty get they keep
going twenty games, Austin Red fifty one, the other dudes playing,
they playing player Lebron come back and start that ship,
and y'all start, y'all keep losing and and and and
y'all can't.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Do it no more.

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
It's so old Lebron. Yo, we gotta understand this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
This that coach gonna traded he got the coach. Take
the coach. Who's gonna trade him? It's a new day.
Who's gonna trade him? Rich?

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
They ain't gonna trade it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
You didn't even play yet, let him play. You ain't
didn't even play a game.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
He got him trade, He put him on the flock.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
He didn't even see what he's gonna do. It's not
even the first quarter.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
They traded everybody and hiss.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
It and dre Lebron. Okay, he didn't trade Jordan's. They
didn't trade Kobe is Madenings. They didn't treat that's Lebron.
Ain't a lately traded him Lebron.

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
When Lebron, when Lebron hangs it up, it goes back
to Akron. He ain't a Laker like Kobe. When it's
all said and done, that fucking ractor that ship going
up in Cleveland, they ain't going up in the Lakers
and other cities.

Speaker 5 (01:38:20):
He's Lebron. He did something nobody did business wise. All
of that can if they're not gonna trade.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
Card bless Lebron. I did the show where him on
the stars. He gave me the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
He can't even treat. He can't get me.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
You saying that with one boot one traded pull out
of through tip felt.

Speaker 5 (01:38:43):
Can he get talking about he's gonna trade it?

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Okay, he can't fucking get traded. He can't get treated.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
He protected himself.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
He can't get traded. How about that? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
They really mad?

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
Now I'm making it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
Genie Buss, Genie Buss looking at the shape, Geni Boss.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Like, yo, this shit is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
We can't trade him for the fifty one ers.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
You gotta do fifty one ers for years.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
You just better know, Austin Reeves.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
You already making it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Austin Reeves learned from Jada Kiss.

Speaker 8 (01:39:22):
Yesterday's price, it's not today's price.

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
Yesterday's price is right. Today's price is doing great. Man,
Let's talk about the Noah's Off Foundation.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
No, no, no, no, y'all can't get a hype like this.
And now we're gonna talk about foundations.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
We can talk about you, y'all not gonna do it
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
I'm not coming in talking about foundation after this debate.
I'm just.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
I don't want to talk about I don't want to
talk about charity.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
I don't want to talk about charity. This is I'm listening,
this is a this is awesome. I can't. I thought
I came on a podcast, but I love this shit
like I love this ship. Yeah, I love this ship.
You know I didn't realize it was gonna get like this.
I didn't realize how passionate it was about basketball. Like

(01:40:12):
holy ship.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
Guys were really passionate about this ship. And with that
being said, this ain't that. That ain't this cracking kids?
God damn it makes some noise for a brother, Joe King. No, Hey, father,
come in, Hey up all the time, Hey father, Tell
him about.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Your book right here, right here, right here, right here.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
You know you from all the money coming with the
pink sweats. I love you to death, Saint Yo, don't
turn nothing. No, tell him your book, God, brother, tell
him where you could find it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
No, No, you need the mic like that ship, A
whole lot of games. Get right, get right. Let Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
Love brother always man, thank.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
Your quick, That'm always you know that quick.

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
Hey, Butter is in the building, hallms this terror Squad's
own shout out to Tony Rose.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
He let us borrow him. Yes, sir, about your book.

Speaker 9 (01:41:15):
I got a book out right now called The Whole
Lot of Game, trying to put the kids on in
the next generation on how to you know transition and
look at entrepreneurship and financial literacy in a different way.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
Who's the guys you connected with on the financial literacy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
On our block Mkaphi Bank.

Speaker 9 (01:41:33):
Yeah, I'm tapped in with them and we're doing some
good different things within the community.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
So you know, hey, butter from player to player, from
young kid right now will be the next hottest in
the in the city, this and this and that or
all around. Give me one one thing you could tell
them not to do to get into the NBA. What
should they avoid to get into the NBA. Because you're

(01:41:58):
the one guy I always go too. Did I say
should have been in the NBA but didn't make it
to the NBA because you know, you was a star
in Harlem like you was in the NBA in Halem,
all the girls want you. Everybody with you, camera on
your cousin, this, this, that. What bit of advice would

(01:42:19):
you give some kids coming up in the game that
got a lot of potential to get to the NBA
what they shouldn't do.

Speaker 9 (01:42:25):
What they shouldn't do is focus on what others are saying.
Stay true to yourself, you know what I'm saying, Continue
to learn, be more of a listener. That was one
of my mistakes when I was young. I didn't really
listen too much. So you know, as you get older,
you don't want to sit back and say, oh, if

(01:42:46):
I would have knew this, Nah, be honest, you wasn't listening. Accountability,
you know what I mean? That's really like a big
main thing for me to help the next generation with
and spread that word about just being accountable when you
start to be accountable in your girl.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
Fact.

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
Richie Parker, Richie Parker, Nah, Richie Parker should have been
the NBA. Kareem Reid.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
We went and got him a try out with the
Knicks when they don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
I took a guy off the street, but pulled him
in with Isaiah Thomas gave him a trial. Isaiah said, Man,
this guy came in smelling like blunts. We can't do it,
you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, NBA different
the man I just told you, Tony Parker ate the
bean for breakfast, bro, Like he was eating the sparagus
for fucking lunch. Kareem Reid coming off for all of them. Yeah,

(01:43:36):
you the man in hall of them. But when they
running them drills in the garden, his shit different.

Speaker 9 (01:43:42):
Hey y'all, I don't know if you remember, but kiss
he had rough riders. He had the first father and
son that we ever seen, which was Steve Burt Senior
and Steve Burt JRN.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Yeah, stick to the verses.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
Don't talk about coaching at the Rutker. Stick to the verses,
stick to versus.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
Don't talk about him.

Speaker 9 (01:44:07):
Yeah, he definitely you had Jamal Tinsley. I gotta give
you your props.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):

Speaker 9 (01:44:11):
Malt Tinsley was dead night swore to him, but serious
satellite shout out the Kenny Sadeafield.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
But those yeah, we.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
Got the best of the anybody did have some dogs.
I gotta hey butter.

Speaker 4 (01:44:28):
The other day I forgot his name and I don't
want to get killed. But the other day I'm at
the Nick game and they playing Cleveland and one of
the guys that used to play at the Rutker is
the assistant coaches Cook, old man Cook, holy ship. Let
me tell you something. I grabbed him. This is not
a mistake. Listen to me, Joe. I watched him in

(01:44:51):
the street and he see you don't know his name.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
He's gonna be mad.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
No no, no, no, no, no no, no, listen. I'm Fried,
niggas no, I'm talking. I'm Fried. I don't remember my name.
I'm keeping the real with you. When this man came
up to say what's up the fact Joe, I almost
cried bro I looked at him and I said, I said,
you're the coach. He said, Yo, I'm the coach. I

(01:45:16):
was like, congratul license man, God bless you, man, Like
I can't believe it. It's Omar fucking Cook and I'm went.
I told my wife. I told a hundred people that day.
I was like, yoest kid used to play at the Rucker.
I can't believe I don't know his name. I knew
you would know his name.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
I should have called you. Don't look stupid, got sham guard.
He's doing what all this? I don't know if I'm
figging it up no more. You got Royale Ivy. You
know what I mean. He's always been coaching, assistant coach.
He was.

Speaker 9 (01:45:49):
Coaching you or Royal Ivy. He used to play with
the Cadz went the Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):

Speaker 9 (01:45:55):
Rose, one of the greatest coaches. Always shout out Tony Rose, always.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
Came hold up Tony Rosen, one of the greatest coaches.
For Tony Rose, up, who somebody I respect? Two months
for coaching the today, we put a terror squad uniform
on a butter. He was the Indian man crying when
the TV came off. The niggas just say he had another,
but it's another Spanish nigga.

Speaker 9 (01:46:20):
That was with.

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
God when he walked in. I worked on them all winter,
took the Miami drop top Ben Lee's steaks and lobs
this whatever you want this, I worked because he used
to kill us. He was the terror squad killer. I
mean we went triple four over top, set the lights
him and Stephanie.

Speaker 9 (01:46:45):
Ben Me was throwing money out the helicopter at his
pool party, just to reiterate on the butter.

Speaker 4 (01:46:53):
They hugged me for you know, I said, I started
Memorial Weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
They called me up.

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
I got death threats from the Jamaican and the mafia.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
They called me up.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
Said by to you call, was with you, Joel, you
erased some mind in history. I said no, but if
you call, thank you for being one of the biggest promoters.
We did Memorial Weekend together. But you you've seen some
ship out there when. But what I'm saying is today
that part because he was the terror squad killer. The
day he walked in with that jersey Tony Rosa. Couldn't

(01:47:25):
believe it because he coached you since what high school?

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Since I was like fourteen fifteen. I used to play
for the Mustang thing shout out to the musk and I.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
Love, love, love Tony Rosa, And I wasn't happy about it,
but I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
This guy was gonna beat us.

Speaker 9 (01:47:40):
I was gonna he was really the only take one
of them, you know, if we're being honest.

Speaker 4 (01:47:44):
It was a lot of y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
You know what was coach.

Speaker 4 (01:47:47):
I had to buy him out. I had to bring
he was killing us. He going up against Stephan Maulbury
three point three point three point three point three porter
three pointer three. I said, Joe, I can't beat him.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Join them.

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
Gott to join a butter.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
Cherry squad joined a butter.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
I had to get that man off the market. Yeah.
He had a team out there too.

Speaker 9 (01:48:11):
I don't know if you remember for our home him
Hell yeah, yeah, yeah, Andre, Barrett and all of them
just shout out to them, assistant coach, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
They out there money.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
I thought, oh I should have really really went night
was there. But I mean, like really, you want to
know what happened that Andre Barrett because I'm a huge
Andre Barrett fan. He didn't do him. So he came
in the league and he was doing what they told
him to do, passed the ball, this this that I
was waiting for him to do him and so he

(01:48:44):
was such a company guy. Brought him in and but
he never did him. And if he would have did him,
he would have had a longer career in the NBA.
How proud of us was this Skip to my lou,
Skip to my loop, caught a check to huh? He
caught a real fucking check way in Houston. Skip is

(01:49:04):
probably the greatest story in rutting history and street ball history.
He's the one guy that I seen doing it. Remember
the year we had.

Speaker 9 (01:49:16):
Skipping, that's when he won the championship again, three other guys.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
I gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:49:24):
Out and Skip was like that crowd couldn't And he
passed it to stuff and Steph used to do that
ship where he goes low and do some shit. It
was almost like the make trips that sh That's how
he used to come in. Then they passed it the
ring ring do the circle up Now it was just
too much.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
It's too much.

Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
It was like Camelot my Nigga royalty. We we had
too many mon One day we put Steph on with
Ai out there. One day we had a game with
Steph on the AI. They were the two best points.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
Thompson shout out the natural control. You know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:50:00):
I gotta make sure arrested. Peace to Greg Marius and
Ali Moe. Greg Marriage a man, a man of honor.

Speaker 4 (01:50:07):
We can't talk about it in the Rock Nation building,
but anybody else would have found a way to give
that game the jay Z and Rock Nation or cancel
it or this the man saying, y'all fat joeing them one.
That took a lot of heart for that man to
say that. You know what I'm saying, so shut out

(01:50:28):
Greg Marriage. I also went when he was he was
passing away, was there? I went and I went to
the hospital. He requested me to go there. And man,
what a good man, bro, what a great man, Greg
Marius in the whole family piece, y'all, this ain't that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
That ain't this.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
It's a butter and crack and kiss.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
Let's y'all put the music for man showing right now.

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