Joe and Jada - Wu-Tang's Raekwon & Mobb Deep's Havoc on '36 Chambers,' Prodigy & REAL hip hop - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So get money.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do what you do, get money, but stop calling everything
fucking hip hop, man, because everything ain't hip hop.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah yeah, what's up? Y'all's your boys? Yo? Crap? You
know who it is?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Your boy Jada know what this is the Joe and
Jadens Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic, you know
what I mean, And numbers speak for themself.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
But today it's just that again.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome my brothers, ray Kwan Havoc to
the Joe and Jaden Show.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Make some noise.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Nah shah lah, nah shahla. You ain't you ain't do
that intro? Right, y'all, y'all ray Wan in this motherfucker
have it? Mom, this motherfucker. This is a different This
is a different type.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Of like Yalty on this fucking couch definitely always there's nothing,
but this ain't not regular couch.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
If I ever caused you any type of problems or anything,
because you know he's one of my best friends in hip.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Hop, have Ray hardened me because he's gonna tweak out
several times?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
But they know on Fried I just had to hear it.
What the fuck do you think to give him the
heads up?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I'm actually putting it a surgeon general.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
The surgeon General the clause.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm like, Yo, ray Man, I know I've done might
have caused you so much stick just being his friend.
This is one of my closest friends on the earth,
so I know this ship come to him. You think
you just start working with me, and Niggas is telling you, yo,
fuck Joe, Yo, He's why he's just heven.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Catch this way fullers for thirty house the new Fludy. Yo,
this guy been catching the trains for thirty years. He's been.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'm just telling him and has in the builder Steve
Rifkins in the building.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
You'll have Yeah, I gotta take it to don't start
is way too early and then say it. You know,
I got cousins, moved and I got cousins. I got cousins.
I got cousins for Queen's Rich I used to be
in Queensboro. He as a kid. No, no, I'm gonna
keep it real with you.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Fat Spanish kid. I wasn't even Joe's track like that.
I used to visit my cousins at Queen's Ridge. I
thought it was Brooklyn, Brooklyn every summer, Brooklyn Williamsburg Cornelia
all that shit over there, williams Worth, listen, you fucking
me up. I'm telling him, I got cousins. My cousin

(02:54):
Bubu passed away. My cousin He've hat gravity. He's one
of the biggest break dancers in the world, his mother
and them. They come from Queensbridge projects, My cousins Queensbridge, right,
I think that's the most royal projects probably in the
in the world of here bias, right, yeah, But I'm

(03:16):
just saying the only other project I could compare to
as maybe Cabrini Green in Chicago. They're not even here,
but just growing up in Queensbridge, what was that like?
Was you really coming outside seeing shann on the corner
of Rock Sanne Shantan?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
What was that like?

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Because I tell I tell people my story growing up
in the Bronx and Miss the Nests and Belly Mellan Nolaman,
and they look at me.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Like I'm lying or I'm an alien? What would please
tell me?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
As a kid, what was it like walking around Queensbridge
when you're hearing.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
That to do the bridge to do? What the fuck
was that? Like? God?

Speaker 5 (03:54):
That that was the type of shit that made you
be proud to be from qv You know what I'm saying,
Like would you go to oh Niggas like where you're from?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'm like, I'm from Queenstres.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
You know what I'm saying, because we got the song
just like you know what I mean, just Bridge and
you know Bridge, like straight up like you know where
I'm from, like QB. So you're proud. And then you
got mc shan walking around with the different rumas or
you might see Mally Maul and Roxy and Chantey, so
that that boost your confidence up, you know what I'm saying,

(04:24):
to become somebody because you seeing somebody that came from
around your way that made it coming through with the
BMW's and all that shit. So that was a depth
with year was that shit man?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Like four? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Seeing Roxy and Chantine eighty four when I'm like eight
years old, that's what I'm talking about. I seen mister Ness.
I was in the supermarket. My brother was like, Yo,
this is mister ness.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
He had the braids already with the with the beads.
I had the nikes to like he was superstar Like
when you looked at him, you already knew yo. Oh shit,
who this like he was just he was walking around
supermarket like looking like a star. Right, you know what
I'm saying, And you went because it intrigues me. You know,
we've been around your hood. We've been around your hood.

(05:09):
I've been around his hood like I used to pump
cool Gie rap and drive around his hood and Queen's.
You know, we we we all been intrigued with each
other's hoods. But your hood. They was the original superheroes,
the first super group in hip hop. Because you got this,

(05:30):
you got Molly mal you got.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
You got the game in the choco because you got
mister Magic. So y'all own the radio station with that job.
You got Craig G.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
You got Master Ah, you got rock saying Sean J
Big Daddy Kane, straight up, what kind of shit is this?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
The Symphony's ringing off and you're seeing them on the block.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
That shit is I mean, like I said, man, that
shit was an inspiration. And they style was just crazy
because y'all remember the Coca Cola shirts and shit like Dad,
the Benettontons.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
They was coming through it all that.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yeah, they was coming through with Dad is a big
Daddy came like smooth operator.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
There's no way you could become a fucking rapper. You
know what I'm saying. See, you know what I mean, Joe,
you was around, You was around niggas tooto show, don't
start them, don't start them. I was Raven.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
I'm just talking about his block, you know what I'm saying,
because when it comes to hip hop, I'm talking about
global hip hop.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know, the bridge is what Compton is to LA.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
When the first time we got a connection with LA
is coming say out of Compton and.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
You like, what the fuck easy with a flamethrower?

Speaker 4 (06:40):
You like this, I gotta go there right and so
that I'm just trying to bring that essence up.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
But I wasn't around all lot now.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
To god Brooklyn, your Brooklyn days, then your stat noladays.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I was out there early with y'alls.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
You know what I'm saying. So, oh, what was it
for y'all? They had a mega group out of Statenlae to.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Ars, D Force and d Force, m ds, you know, legendary.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
No, No, that's like they maybe they would have kept
going to maybe more hit. It would have been like
a new addition, like no, they can't before boys. The
men though, bron the fourth.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yes, hell, you don't force some ds at the A
long time before they was doing Ship.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I guess that everybody was probably trying to compare them
as at one point.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
You know what I'm saying. I think you had to.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Say they they don't know I wasn't he for stantonand that.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I don't know U m C U m CS just
the stat knowledge. You know, you gotta stop, yo, do
do that.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Don't tell you, I'm gonna turning your s readers in
the building, journalists of all journalists.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
We got so much royalty here or what with you know,
Staten Island.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
He came from Brooklyn first, man, I know that you
say that first.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I mean, you know, tell us the Brooklyn aspect of here.
I mean, you know, I was a kid man.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know my mom's you know, we come from Brownsville
on My moms got us side of there around I
was around nine years old. Never knew my dad, never
had a relationship with him. It's like when she had me,
she found out that he was in the drugs, and
you know, back in the seventies, I guess you know,
he was doing a lot of gangster shit and getting

(08:36):
in the ship. And then when she found out he
was on drugs, she just said, yo, got the boat.
You know, my mom's was like a tough skinned lady,
so she felt like at the end of the day, like, yo, youth, Nah,
I can't have you around my kid. I don't even
want to fuck with you. Because she just felt like
he was getting into too much shit. You know, it
got to the point where she was like, you know,

(08:57):
cause it's his His mother lived in East New York,
lived in the projects Atlantic Towers, East New York Avenue
rather right or in that area right there, because I'm
from Ocean Hill, so between Ocean Hill, you know, you
right across Atlantic Avenue, you're turning to East New York.
So anyway, you know, never had a relationship with him.

(09:18):
They robbed our crib one time. We wasn't there a
Brooklyn with school in Brooklyn, and that that just made
my moms be like, yo, illa, what let's get the
fuck out of here, you know what I mean. And
she has sisters that lived in statn Allan already, so
they told her, they said, yo, come to stat now
and it's a little bit more safe for.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
It's letter over there.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
And they was helping her too because she needed some
help at the time because she had us young, so
she was still going to the work. She's working at
the Twin Towers and all that. So she moved us
to the Allens. So I left. I loved b K
when I was around eight, and you kept that. You know,
it was over there East New York.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
I told the story one time on the Pard It's
where my aunt I used to live on this hill,
sum Summit Hill or some miller. Miller hell, my aunt,
my godmother. I used to spend summers over there. And
then I went to the projects and the DJ was
playing that baby we can do It's eight good time,
do it right? We can't do it, yo. Let me

(10:18):
tell you something. That's one of the first I mean
pause on a higher level. I don't know if I'm
saying it right, but that's one of the first songs
that ever stimulated my brain in a different way. Like
I was a kid, but I knew when I heard it.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
I said, this is a masterpiece.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Like I heard the music and everything, I would, you know,
just a fan. I just was like, Yo, this is
fucking incredible. This shit was dancing on my brain, like, Yo,
this is crazy. He played it like three four times
Stanton Island. Y'all threw that motherfucker on. Yall bat on
the legendary is of Forms, and y'all actually made that

(10:57):
like a bridge. You personally, you meth ghost genius, you got.
Y'all made that shit like the bridge of our era.
You know what I mean, because I'm thinking about Superhero.
You know, one night I come out the club. I'll
keep it real with you. I came out the club
in the Bronx. It was like five six in the morning,

(11:17):
and I keep it all the way tall with you.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
If you really want to know.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Kr res One had a show in the Bronx and
they pulled up. The whole entire Juice crew pulled up
and when we came outside, it was like six in
the morning. He had already performed, like two o'clock. They
was all outside. They had jeeps, benses, dap of dance
shit distance. They was all outside like this is the

(11:43):
first time I ever seen a big day came Why
body kid bends this. They was all outside like this.
I don't know what they was coming for. They just
was like, fuck it, We're going to the Bronx and
we're going you know what, I'm saying, but that's what I.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Mean by superheroes. That's how it was, or that's.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
How it is when we see you guys, when we
see the Wu Tang, we look at y'all. You know,
ghost they just came up here. I ain't gonna lie
to you, Star Tony Tong, that's your brother. But you
know he like a superhero.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Nah.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
When I see him, I just feel like, oh my god,
it's like fucking ghost face royalty. That's how I feel
when I see him. I'm like, Yo, this ship is really.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Ghosts on the fucking couch. You know the same thing
with you are.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Let's go Old Dirty Basket right, because we don't talk
about him enough in this shows how ill is Old
Dirty Basket bro.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
The illest, the illest, singing dirty.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
One time on two fifth, we stuffed at the juice
ball each other loved a whole bottle a tiger Bot.
I don't think nobody in the world. I don't even
think he's supposed to do that for one nor he
can't do it. Hell no, Norrid said.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
That's the ship they used to make him up like
a like a bad drink, Like when you drink tiger ball,
you want to.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Fight it it's distracted from a tiger's boom o.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Dirty to the head. Wow, yeah, yeah he got he had.
That's how I knew he was human? Is it?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Even it did nothing out there would have been, but
he still took the fucking whole bottle with tiger today,
I know, you gotta to see him doing all type of.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Man we go back so far man where we used
to go downtown on downtown Brooklyn Albie Square, and.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
We used to be robbing and all that.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Ship we used to be up at A and s,
you know what I mean, just catching polo shirts and
all that.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, he was, he was. He's serious with it now.
He must have been crazy before a rap right, Oh yeah, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
He was a He was the guy you ain't really
want to see out in them streets.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Like well, he was a good No, he was a
good nigga though, you know what I mean, he wasn't.
He was like a more like a thief than a
Crook's a difference, you know what I mean. Crook is
a crook got attitude all the time. He's just funny
and and and like the steal you'll.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Take in two a three candy bars out just to
be still like that Crystal be still for no reason.
We're going to seven eleven income out, Yo, God, you
want to.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Snicker, I'm like I do that sometimes, like little candies
and ship a little ship.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Right in front of it. Like I just be like
because you're not. Yo, listen, listen to my part.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
If I spind the shirt amount not like in Birdle
but in the gas station and one bowld Yeah, I
gotta steal something.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
You see this ship, this is in the three pack
of bags five waters in the now.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I gotta let me get a let me get like
a commax, yo, just about the.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Gas and ship. You want to snickers? You want to
most man?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
You know, I got a funny story where odib I said,
it's very long, but I'll tell you. But uh, one
night I'm passing, Uh, I'm with my wife in the car.
I think I had the green bands and it was
that Cheetah club and I was just driving by. Everybody
was outside and I seen because you guys had serious

(15:24):
beef with all the bouncers in every club in New
York City. Like I mean, y'all was public enemy number one.
Y'all wasting out here right because y'all kept beating up
the bouncers and all that, right, Like I don't know
what the fuck it was, but I'm driving by and
it's like twenty bounces cock diesel dudes, you know, and
they got like, oh dB kind of him duck. And

(15:45):
so I'm looking around the whole hip hop every I
don't want to talk about who super rappers was out there,
and everybody was like minding their business. And it was
just for a fact Odi B was gonna get stretched
out because he all getting with them just this day,
and they looking they looking to beat them up. These
guys kept beating them up, the bouncers. So they finally
caught oh d B by himself. He was wilent. So

(16:08):
I told my wife. She was like, Yo, that's not
your business. I said, Yo, I gotta put. I can't.
I can't actually see it right and break out like
maybe thank God if I ain't see it, I'm out,
But I can't see it and not try. So I
jump out the car, and you know, d beat was

(16:30):
crazy recipe. So I'm trying to make sense to him,
like yo, o d yo, it's like twenty thirty dudes.
They looking to pound you out. Like you got to chill, like, yo,
fuck them this we the moo tank this that. So
I kind of like talk them off the cliff. And
I'm telling him, you see all these rap niggas, they
don't give a fuck. They're gonna watch you get pound out.

(16:50):
They all out here. Ain't nobody trying to help you, right.
I almost had him. Then he was like you no, no.
I almost had him, right, And then he was like
you see that, Joe, the killer bees they're coming from there.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I said, oh, mind god.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
He was hallucinating that the killer bees was coming like
the video like triumph. At this point I knew, I said,
yo dB, I said, I told the bounces yo od
b don't disrespect this, and that.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
They were like, nah, Joe this.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
I couldn't do nothing because the man started hallucinating that
the killer bees. You see that the killer bees are coming.
He believed the video Steve Steve Rifkin in the house
was loud retors responsible for Woo Tay Big Pawn Mom.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
D Uh.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
You know, I used to think I was the only
one that loved Steve. I ain't gonna lie to you, right,
so you know, we all gave him a heart. He
had the wildest guys in the world, right, So we
going to the office, everybody giving him a heart time wiping.
You want your flag, give him the flags? What were
throwing the flags for a kiss?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Or give him the flag? No, I thought I was
the only one of the flag on the plane. No.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Now I'm gonna tell you why, because many times in
my life, even in the drug game, I would find
a connect that I really looked up to and be like, Yo,
I got you, you feed me, I'm gonna always be
loyal to you. So I used to look at Steve's
changed my life. You understand what say. He bought my
mother's my mother's house. He made me move out the

(18:27):
projects and bought a house, so you know, we know
how generous Steve is. So I used to look at
him and be like, damn if Steve only knew I'm
the most loyal to him, like I got him like
nobody else.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
But I know he was. He knew I was there.
Everybody wanted him.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
I was real dangerous when he signed me, so everybody
told him, Yo, this guy, you gotta watch him this.
So he probably got an extra antenna up for me.
But I was really looking at him like one day
I'll prove to you I'm loyal. You're gonna And what
we did the what what was it? The thirtieth anniversary
of Beach. Remember, everybody showed up and every artist he

(19:05):
ever had showed up free before, loved each other, hugged
each other, we had huddle ups. That's when I said
to myself, Man, you ain't the only one that loves
Steve Rifkin. Like everybody loved this man right here. So
shout out to Steve Man. You changed all our lives.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Man.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
We love you, brother, and we'll continue to support you.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
But you too. You know.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
I know y'all got a tour coming up, but I
know I know that, and we're going to support and
we're coming right. But I want to get more into
like Prodigy, What was it like being next to Pete?
How did you ever even meet? How did you meet?

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Hello? Yo, I'm half I'm Prodigy.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Then you know I met him through a mutual friend
in high school and shit, you know what I mean.
I got to the high school before him, the high
school art designer and the high end you know, Denmark
junior year he came in the audience.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
You went on, Ellen, all right, Ship came out in
high school before he.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
I mean no, no, no, no, no, kind of kind of
like kind of like during high school, kind of like school,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
So I met him in there.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
He came in and I remember how I went to
uh W b LS with Molly mal he was on
the radio back then, and Trash bought me up there
and Ship and I said, yeah, shout out to Trash.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I've seen this kid in there. And I kept looking
at him. He looking at me. I'm like, damn, he
was in b LS. No he wasn't. It was this kid.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
He come to find out the nigga went to my school,
you know what I'm saying. So I was like, oh shit,
you go to one Design, b X, Y and Z.
Make a little story short. He knew Pete, you know
what I'm saying. And that's how we all got together.
It's like, you know what I mean. He knew p
my man Blackie from the Bronx. So that's how I
started hanging out on the.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Did he fit like when you heard Prodigy for the
first time?

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Then he spit like was he talking? No, he was
not that prodigy. That's why, like if if I wasn't.
If I wasn't there, if I wasn't there, the witnessed
it myself, I would have thrown somebody else real pet rhyms.
You know what I'm saying, because the nigga just switched
from juvenile hell and then went into infamous moke and
I saw I was dead. Nobody didn't write it, and

(21:16):
I was like, how the fuck he do that?

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I feel like he tricked me, you know what I'm saying.
But you know what I'm saying, He ain't show you
all the all the changeress boods.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
He ain't show you all the you know what I'm saying,
ain't show you the year old stat You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
He he just he just started going in. But the
interesting part about it to me is this, you know
everybody saying how great he is and all this, and
the third when you up close on something you really
don't notice thing like that. You understand what I'm saying,
because I you know what I'm saying. I thought, you
know what I'm saying. He was just like, Okay, you're good.

(21:51):
He used to be spitting the rhums in my egg.
You know, in the studio shit like that, and I'd
be like, oh, you know, that's cool. But now when
I think about it and I listened back to that shit,
I'm like, damn, this.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Nigga was, you know, like he was like a like
an animal. He had his own He wasn't like what.
He had his own vocabulary record and he was like
nobody else. So it wasn't like he was trying to
be somebody else. He had his own vocabulary. He had
his own, you know.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
I you know there's times I ride around shout out
my man Risch the ball. I ride around with rich
big fans of both of you guys, and we'll just
play like your album and just say every word for
word and just and then that says a lot about you,
right because you have to keep up with somebody that
we call you know, the clips came up here and

(22:40):
said he changed your life.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
He's also doing the production. We know that you know did.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
You'll know they got to be to make get the
making project with p That's that's the triple to work.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
I had a tough fucking joke triple strip.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I was rapping next to Michael Jordan.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
You know what I'm saying like, you know what I mean,
and still had the cook in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
You know what I mean. It's still the avers. You
know what. All of your ships was hard though. In
Naked Murdered.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Music, I don't know what you hit some he gave you,
give me some. Oh, he gave you some of that ship.
You switched like that from him and miss the murdered music.
Your ships went up a trip and lean them out crazy.
I'm like, fucking half what that. I ain't gonna need me.
We didn't getting it.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
We ain't have choices. So the game.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
So I come out flow Joe. Everybody knows Fat Joe's
in town. Enough respect for the boogie down and then
the tape drop, you know, maadic realizing the realism of
life in actuality fuck with.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
At that point, you knew you couldn't come with stomp.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
That's the idea, like you had to step shut up,
or you're not gonna be involved next year. You don't say,
because there's a class of ninety two, class of ninety three,
class of ninety four.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I knew for fact, listen, it's an over bedtime.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I had to go through that, all of that, and
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we have such a legendary interview right now. But like
with the youth, I feel like unless I don't see
what's going on, that's what they miss, you know what
I'm saying. It's more like making music for a moment.
Everybody want to catch get a bag.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
It ain't like.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
That level of you know, respect for the art of
like what you're gonna say. You know, we we we
fucking rocking babies, KRS babies, we fucking ll cooj babies.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
So we had no choice but.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
To just admire what everybody was doing and bring what
they bring in to the You had to step your
shit up. Like I felt like I was really his
school when like I discovered Big Pun, but Big Pun
taught me.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
So I used to sit there with him and he
disrespecting me, like for him being my little brother. He
be like, you're limited, you give up easy, go all
the way. Sixteen means sixteen, you.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Got twelve hot ones, but you want to give up
on the last four Like this. I was at Wardens
School with this guy and it was like and he
was sharping me up.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
So when he passed. So Pun was around you before you,
before you got on.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
No no, no no. I was around two albums before Pun.
I met Pun the last day I was handing it
in my second album.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I put him on my album.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
As soon as I heard him, I was like, oh,
you met him right at that point.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
I called you. We did firewater me and you be real.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
And then something that's so crazy is like I always
tell a story I did a show with Wu Tang
and they got five hundred and I got five hundred differences.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
They had thirteen dudes, So I didn't know. I really
honestly ain't understand how the math was. Benn Mak.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
And so and then Ray and me become tight at
the Old Woo Tank and he's beyond the hottest guy
in the fucking globe and I could call him at
any time and he show up in ten minutes to
the studio.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
What's up, Joe? So I'm like, Yo, this is my artist,
Big Punt.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
And then he just jumped on the joint and that
that was the first joint that we ever put out
with Punt.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, because you introduced me to him, you know, And
he was like, you know, I was coming up there
to see you because you said, Yo, you wanted me
to come through.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
And I remember that day clear because my little brother.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
You know what I mean, he had graduated and I
had bought him an SC three hundred SC four hundred,
you know back then, that man and told him I said, Yo,
I said, Yo, you gotta come with the Bronx cause
you know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I ain't know if he really know how to fully
drive yet. So it's like when.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
He came, when he came right, it's like all of
us like when he walked to the door, we always
like we like in here and shit when he walked through,
anybody say he made he made it.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
But anyway, meg a.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Long stovey short. You said, Yo, I wanted to introduce
you to somebody. So I said, what's up?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
What you wan to do? So I see this other
Portomincan big nigga come out as ship. So he was
like yo he rhymes and you know, I'm like yo.
He's like, yo, let me spit for you. He said, Yo,
you can spif. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, that nigga said plun just said boom boom bong.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I looked at Joe. I said, that's one of them. Yeah,
he said you got one. He said that's one of
them exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I remember that shit clearsed day and it's like he
was like, yo, you mind if he get on his firewater.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Wreck and I was like put him on, say yo.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
Then.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Ever since then, I think that's when your loyalty level
for me, it grew at a at a at an
old time.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
I give first video we threw the suits on Yah
got blue shitty bullllock. This man never let me down,
this whole life never let me down. I got to
salute him for that. That's another level where you know, jadkiss,
I'm twenty years waiting on the verse. It's my business partner.
But that ain't shut because we all got down on that.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Ain't sure.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
I fucking I gotta chick on this guy like that
white like John Blaze.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Here we go on John Place.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
If we got that off, No, no, I ain't forget
trust me when we got that off. That's why I
told him I threw a wires crack at another there
because he was a baby. When we did John play
he came through. He was like the youngest dude doing it.
You know what I'm saying, And and and that John Blake,
that's when you had the rhyme in the studio all
type of It wasn't like send somebody your beat the

(30:40):
ship had come back.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
It was like you had to show up.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
That's what I was just about to ask you all
on thirty six Chambers and or everybody had to be
there for every session, right most of the time, I say,
I say about least like ninety percent because you know,
we was up in Risid's base man. You know, Rizza
had this little hole in the spot and it was
like almost like a studio apartment. So when you come in,

(31:06):
shit was real small, and it was like a little stove,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
He had a little chair is ship like two chairs,
like what we wanna do with two chairs?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
And you know, so then the wings we in the
room and it's like everybody's just sitting on the floor
or somebody might be standing up, and yeah, you know
a lot of times it was like yo, it's like
being on a fucking assembly line, you know what I mean, Like, Yo,
now you come through and you throw something in the
hell you say something.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
But at that time, it was like like going back
to with Dirty.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
You know how he was so influential because he's seen
something in the group. He seen something when they started
to formulate this this thing called Wu Tang Klant.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
It was like Dirty had a lot to do with orchestrating.
You know.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
That's why I always call him the general too. You know,
Rizzi of course the genital, but you know that was
the next general, you know, and he was very voistous,
like it's almost like you write a ball you gotta
you gotta come over there and get his approval, you know,
and it's like he like a coach.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
He might motivating everybody out exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
And it's like and it's like the beats he was
he even knew how to make beats, so he was.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Even in Rizin.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
That so they are dirty. You really thought, yeah, they
was orchestrating together there. But you know, but you know,
before the war and all that ship, it was the
jus A Dirty and Riza running around doing whatever they
was doing. They was called the Orlans Together Now crew,
So they was already you know, splashing, going doing battles

(32:45):
and all of that. So when they started to form
this ship, it was almost like we knew we had
three three bosses, you know, so yeah, he must say something,
but he don't have to say nothing, but he's saying something.
That's the chemistry that they had. So we just had
to follow what they what they marching orders.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Was you havelf was there ever a group that that
almost happened that we never heard about, like like, was
it always just gonna be you in Prodigy or what
was you ever going to team up, let's say with
tragedy at this.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Was there ever another group?

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Yeah, I definitely teamed up with a few casts from
from from the Bridge that it just never panned out. Yeah,
it didn't pan out anybody big we know about no No,
you would you know from y'all.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Rapper Nooy was my guy.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Man, that's my guy, yes, yo, the rapper Noy Yo, Yeah,
I was.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I was.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
You know, it's certain guys who are CRUs then when
they when they shiit came on and they might have
not been the main start, but you know it taught you, like,
like y'all, I used to see him and be like
your rapping Noy was something like you know.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
He used to made Yeah he was, he was. He
was a hidden a hidden gym. My favorite alchemist. Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
We met alchemists through kind of like you know, we
used to go to LA when we first started going
to l A, and we hooked up with mugs with
DJ Mugs, So we was chilling with mugs or whatever whatever,
and you know, Goldfather and NDDI and Twin and all
of them kind of like you know, used to really.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Befriend mugs and so ALC was down with mugs and
then that's how they kind of met him ALC first.
He used to be getting weave from him and ship.
You know what I'm saying. Because al used to live
in NYC, down in there, Soulho.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
So he used to have the wave and yeah he
had Yeah, he had the plug for the fire and
he was making beats, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
So the chatter was going around. You know what I'm saying,
this this kid, you know what I'm saying, alchemists. He
over there making beats. I said, let me see what.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
The fuck they shit about, you know what I'm saying.
So I went to our crib and I was like,
oh shit, this is white chocolate.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
You know what I'm saying. This crazy ship, the brother
he had that ship.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
He's one of them guys him man preem where the
fine New York sound hip hop, but they're not from
New Year.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
It's weird when you find out he's from La Preenview.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
And even you even knew he was from La back
in New Ever ever, every Alchemist, yeah you wouldn't even know.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I thought he was from n see what I'm saying.
So what's crazy is that? You know? And I'm also
glad Tom from Houston. Wow, Kreamer, Yeah, I know that right.
Another one he with another news.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
He said his cousins used to bring him tapes like
Magic and Red Alert tapes all the way out to Houston,
and he was studied at the Game and then he
finally moved over here. But Alchemist is good to see.
I feel like every now and then, some of us
we have a moment. He has a moment right now,
and so the game is finally recognizing all his contributions

(35:57):
to hip hop, and he's doing joints with Freddy Gibbs
and now rikaba Du you know er kabab Du straight royalty.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know what I'm saying. The most by dude, she
a different level of excellence. Yeah, I know. She wanted
to super fans. She she look, we all know she's different.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
And but the see Alchemists work with us, and it
feels like, right now he's the goal to God. Absolutely,
you want to get hot, go see Alchemists right now.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
But he put in that word. It wasn't overnight, No,
he definitely put that work in.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
And then I didn't understand how you and Prodigy come
up together and you're one of the greatest producers of
the all time. I didn't understand, like how their relationship
they start making a lot of music together, Like, how
did that happen? They just met up and started. I
mean it was natural.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
I mean, if you got if you got another cat
just making tracks, you know what I'm saying. And he's
becoming part of the family. It's like I'm not standing
what I'm saying. So I'm like, oh, that's let's let's
get it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
That's a little bit work glowed off for me. You
know what I'm saying. I can start.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Writing some moms and y'all canna tell you some crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
We at your wedding.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Steve was with us and were going towards your wedding
and we was like in a van with Rizzid, and
so I asked Rizzard because Whizzid is stingy, he didn't
want the woo tang with nobody else. So I say,
your wisod man, how you let me you know how
you left? Raby Cooley say, I'm gonna tell you the truth.
I ain't really like it at first because I'm wizz
I wanted all boot tang, you know what I'm saying.

(37:33):
But I knew you and him, I had a real connection.
Y'all was brothers. And I was like, yeah, yeah, rock
out with Fat Joe if you want. I was like, yo,
I looked at I was like, thank god, you let
a block with me, because Rizzard definitely wasn't playing that.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Type of ship right now.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
He definitely, he definitely was training us like Doboman's kiss.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Y'all's beating us, the fucking beating us to Washington washing
machine hostes, Bom stay right in Boom. But you know
he had a plan. You know, he had a plan,
and like you said, yeah he was. He definitely had
selfish ways because at that time, you gotta remember, nobody
wasn't fucking with Staten Allen niggas.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Oh no, you know what I'm saying. So we had
a vengeance, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
It's like, yo, come on, we've been partying since we
was fourteen years old, going to the rootstop.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Going here, going to the quarters. You know, you know queens,
you know Trabagar Square and Yo Brooklyn Els Queens and
Ows Bronx and owns.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
You be waiting for statn Allen and you don't hear it.
It's like now we want to fight. We came to party,
but now we want to fight, you know. So that
mentality always stayed with all of us, you know, like yo,
like fuck all the mother Burrows, like y'all think something
sweet of it, but not really knowing that a lot
of niggas that lived in Staten Allen too, was from Brooklyn,

(38:52):
Bronx Queens Manhattan that they migrated there.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Young sta what I'm saying, And it's.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Still some real last niggas that was funding anyway, but
we had some to prove, and I think that was
part of his his his mystique on how he wanted
to approach the game, like Yo, it's just our shit,
you know what I mean. So at first we was
all down with it because we seen the vision. But
then as we got in the game, it started, niggas

(39:18):
start throwing flowers at us and you know, showing us,
you know, super love.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
It's like, Yo, I'm a fan too. I like that nigga,
you know, So we come back, yo, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I could see how his energy would change and I'm like,
to me, it was like, nigga, I'm grown man.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I'm gonna go do what I want to do. Anyway,
you know, but I still respect the cold of what
it is because at the end of the day, we
had a vision, you know.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
So that's the kind of the same shit that made
their locks the locks, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Going to parties.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
We turned it on video music box. We're doing this,
they shouting, everybody.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Ralph showed the clip with you on video music box.
Don't flo this man, did you listen? You know what
I mess.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
We turned on the radio. They shout out Long Island.

Speaker 8 (40:05):
Standing Allen, Brooklyn, Queens Bronx, Mount Vernon, New Shell, skip
right over right, and we right in the middle of it.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Were like, all right, motherfuckers, we're gonna show y'all and
I give you that.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (40:21):
We had no I had no It was no Melly
mal It's no rock saying, no ns I'm coming outside
seeing one our Wayne niggas like that.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Man.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
It was none of that heavy. He wasn't heavy. He
wasn't too far away Mount Vernon, Vernon.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
But we can't even though heavy shoulders, well, love and
being them took after we got with the riders, he
was able to go to average crib and see him
punching the punch of baggings.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
But before that, we got nothing on outside punching back.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Everyone's nice in boxing, no fun way for Heavy.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
We want to catch it fucking flurry your own type and.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Ship, and you know, have Have was like, you know,
if we're gonna keep it a stack. This whole interview
has been really really uh one hundred. He was somebody
I really really looked up to my whole life growing up,
and and yeah we was. I was super cool with
every d but I never told him how much he influenced.

(41:23):
So even now I throw on outfits and I think
I'm fly, and I look at some old pictures of Heavy.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
He wore that ship.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Twenty years ago, I'd be like, damn, have had that
ship on me. So have made big niggas like us may.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Big nigga. Definitely he made it. He made it a
laane your niggas, we gotta look what I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
And so I actually became cool whereever. He used to
come to Miami hang out with us and everything. But
I never told him the truth, Like I never said, y'all,
have you know you're like I like.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
You really really really really really really really really inspired me,
you know.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
And so the first time I man have we was
at Taving on the Green and I'm using the bathroom
and somebody walked in and you gotta flow, Joe, you gotta.
When I turned around was Heavy Dee. You' almost died.
Like if you don't know how much I used to look.
I used to do the dance wools like Heavy studied
the videos every ding. So when I when I finally

(42:24):
met him, because I've seen them many sounds roof top
places for far like a fan. You know what I'm saying, like,
oh ship Heavy D. But when I finally got to
mix it up with him, you know, Heavy D. He
was a special guy.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Man. But you got Mary, we got d m X
came up together. Mary came before.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
I know what I'm just saying, let's well, let's somebody
before your uncle over like a fat.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Rash shot out the fund and race you live on
on bluff. But listen what I'm talking about. But I
didn't see when I came outside, he wasn't there be
like the fact rap Founder, it was none of that.
There was nothing sails in the crypt. It was fucking
there was none of that.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Y'all was in that gas station deep out there, just
way before the gas before the gas station.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
There's nobody y'all got, you got.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
But Mary was on before y'all. Right, she put y'all on.
She did so she wasn't never in the hood like bro.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
It was what she was just getting to the you
know what I mean she was. She threw what's the
alley when she was still on the ladder. That's why
she said, the only one, what's the full?

Speaker 1 (43:34):
That was just out.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
But she was still getting right, like she said. She
pressed us the buff with I don't want no funders
fee one. Just make sure my little niggas is straight.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
So kind of like that. But but be in peace.
So y'all coming. We so we saw y'all coming because
nasus the whispering in Miami. But go y'all.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
Puff got somebody for y'all, bro, she said, he he he,
he said he got somebody for all deep.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I was like, who the fuck? He got football deep
And when they played that's.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
It, I was like, oh, he got the white football d.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
They had them young them young locks, boy, Greek young locks.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Spitting fire flake. I thought I thought had the best rappers.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
We heard this ship ship inspired though we was riding around.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Listening to them. We got m O B. You know,
telling all the.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Time, made us who had listen to all of one day,
I'm hanging out with Ray. We go Jimmy's cafe, We
go to Harlem. I don't know if you remember, it's me,
you and Knas. Actually we hung out in Jimmy's cafe
early in the day. We ate some food that we
went to Harlem seeing some theories out there and all that,
and then we wind up we end up going to

(44:52):
the Tunnel that night, me.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
You and nots. But all day we was listening to
somebody's album. I don't know who it was.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
I don't know if it was Mike Geronimo something, but
we us three was in the car listening to this
album More Day had just came out and were just
fib into it. And then we went to the tunnel
and You and Knas was acting like y'all didn't know
who who the dude was that we was listening to
his music. So I was sitting there with y'all was like, yo,

(45:23):
So I telld to him and say, Yo, we've been
listening to your album all day. Your shit fired be
You're sitting then y'all was like, yo, your shit is fire,
this and that. I forget who it was, but Dean
mad No, it wasn't Dean bark No. I think it
was Mike Geronimo.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I'm not sure. Somebody like that had a hot album and.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
He was underground. He was, you know, it's Ray Corners
Nabs so crazy, y'all. I don't even really remember. I
Mike got a little baby dementia going on.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
No, no, no, you don't. But we had it. But
we did it though. That happened to me.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Royal flesh one of them.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
It was a royal fluncher, Mike them on one of
us with a new though it was yeah, it was
Queen's that's no, no, it was something like that. It
was one of them. It was one of them, and
we was just just like, yo, guys, like you know, listen,
everybody was like, y'all, this ship was hot.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Prodigy story I got, I'm making the first album, Cass
the game Goodbye. We got the crib in Miami, crazy
crazy ship, Gues's house.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
This that Maid's or.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Y'all was doing it, praying this when you can blow
the budgets. This is the budgets this wing. You can
plan to blowing, keepff rifting, keep rifting at me. I
don't even want to tell y'all do this album. Go
to Miami. I want to do this and this boom.
They gave me the crazy crib in Miami for months.

(46:51):
I'm writing the songs in the crib and I'm going
there laying three five at a time to save studio boom.
My though we there for a month or two, you
get a phone call because we got the house phone
in the crib.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
It's p.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
I'm like, somebody fucking prank call in the house. Man like, now,
suck he's the prodigy? Mean, Pete, what's suck? Like?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
I just went to visit my moms. She and Florida
him down the crime.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Come by the crib, me sending the address, Pete, the
DEVI ring is prodigy Me, Oh ship me?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
What up?

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Everybody? Niggas coming out they room, Yo, PA want me
chilling now. I'm like, we got a chef and all that,
so we made sure he ate everything.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
We chilling. He's like, I'm chilling with y'all. You're chilling. Yeah,
I'm just staying at night.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
And he's a priceless, bright away me. You had there
hung out with you, and now she was like priceless.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
He was I don't know if he was going. He
was sick, he was old, you know, but he didn't.
I couldn't let him smoke, so I was he would
make sure he was good him. Now I want smoke.
All right, We're gonna make sure I can get a
little wine to buy him for wine drinking some. But
like your kiss, I don't want to smoke. But let
me rollman.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Said, Nah, I'm gonna be good. Just let me rolling
shit me, fucking you roll up a couple. We went
to the club. We got crazy, one of.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Them crazy ships. And then he stayed like a day
or two. Then he bounced or I'm like, yo, that
was like some that ship. What was the chances? He
fucking called me, said he went to visit his MOUs
pulled up, stayed two days.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
We partied. We didn't. Now we fucking make a song.
That fucking only shipped me.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
But this time was that ship was one of the
illy ships.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
You get the flick. His niggas would have doded do
them two days.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
He did them two days, fucking ignowed.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
It was the best on earth. Nah, that was that shick.
You know.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Look, mister Ness, that's crazy. I'm gonna call him back
after mister nets.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Is listening to us, Mister nest inst the whole phone
is listening.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Listen, I got a flag.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Could you never believe me when I say ship but
our family found the turkey chops.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Now it's the turkey. It's oh you get another hot
Sindy that fortune, yo.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Listen your chealage, test the challenge, test fool, put it together,
test move, put it together.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
I've been telling everybody they got turkey chops. Connect this.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
They like poor chops, but it's turkey. I ain't had
it for years. So when I say to everybody like yeah, yeah,
I know what isn't nobody.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Can get it. Nobody what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Remember, I found not on Easy, one of the best DJs.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
He's one of the best gloves. Fatty, he's out the
turkey times.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
He frowned it yo Yo Caribbeans song, Where you where
you out of Caribbean?

Speaker 1 (50:17):
So momt Browner money earning mouth when we out of
when we out of from right now?

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I can't eat on the side so I can get
shipped on my face and Yo, that's that ship.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
I get sauced. Yo.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
But listen, we gotta show the camera the turkey shot
I take.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
I want to enjoy it. He don't care. You see
what I'm saying. I got a little bit of etique.
It's a grown man. Plates, that's a grown man.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
They gave you straight items close saw. You got the rock,
you got the red. They got that ship, they got
the turkey be shopped with the bone. This is the
real ship, right, No, boss, this is the real ship.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Because I ain't gonna lie to you. A couple of you,
I think James Caribbean old man, melt vernon man. You
know what sold up? Get right, James, I tell them
the produce maybe is soul. You see my sister, brother, James,
and I back. You know what I mean? That's right,

(51:29):
full up. They cater, they do all eving. Man, he's
all right too. Let me tell you your half man.
We have had to hit.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
My bad this because I gotta sit down and really relax.
And that look, yeah, that's a real Puerto Rican right there.
That's a real real Puerto Rican Spanish nigga right there, boy.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Look I got two three diapepsies over here for them.
That's not enough. Let me get thirteen died.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
You do reminded me. I like that comedian back in
the days. He was like, yoh, fuck with the Puerto Ricans.
They shot till somebody in the third floor. They can't
the poppy.

Speaker 7 (52:11):
That's not me.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
I don't know. Oh ship, my body a vo s's
going there? No, no, Maama, this ship hitting on another level.
This ship a god I know. Yeah, No, this ship
real with and soul man and it got paused the

(52:33):
bone that's what she hit me with that he just
can't stop, can stop, won't stand out.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
You know, go so on this last album he got
the skit set fuck the pause and all.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Like supream clientele too. Listen. I didn't y'all go into
a tour, did it? When they just start to its
starting on November? All right?

Speaker 3 (52:55):
So listen when I when I heard that, I'm like, yo,
I thought we was going out. Reson made the announcement,
but then no, y'all got new music coming out, So
y'all gonna go get a bag before we go get
the other back. That's correct, the bag before the other
back got the Emperor's closed.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
The name of Loan is just Emperor's new clothes.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Emperor's new clothes part of me With anybody that knows Ray,
you know, it's this ill is. You sit down for
a meeting with him and the meeting turns into three
other meetings because it's the way his mind works. He's
just always thinking how to create revenue for the crew

(53:37):
and the famine, you know what I mean, bring ideas
the life and all that.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
So how the.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Emperor's new clothes on MASSI appeal in the in the
in the raw of mean drops in Inclinel two to
slick Rick joint have when you come October tenth tenth.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yes, this is all this is a clip loader of monsters. Yeah,
all right, you know what I mean. So how did
this even come about?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
It happened like like real quick, right because I was
already working on the project and I was trying to
figure out how I was gonna go about it, if
I was gonna do it Indie or I was gonna
go picture. But then I was talking to this dude
that worked up in Massapel and he told me about
what they was doing.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
So you know, I'm like, wow, legends has it? I say, Yo,
who's the dude's up there. So then they started, you know,
mentioning who was there. I'm like, damn, those all my friends.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Like damn.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I'm like, said, it might be smart to you know,
be a part of that juice creu vibe and and
really we can help each other now, you know what
I mean. Where it's like, you know, yo, I want
you to win. We all want to win. So the
idea of it alone, I don't know. I was just
looking at it on some super friend ship. So I
even call Nas, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I kept him out of it, you know, but I said, Yo,
the guy that I was talking to, you know what
I mean, he was like, yo, I could call NAS's partner.
So I said, Yo, look if they could do this,
that this, that that say. Yo, I'm damn, but I said,
but here's the catch. They gotta happen in twenty four hours,
you know what I'm saying. So it was like, cause

(55:23):
I already was getting ready bust some move. I had
a move in place already, and it was like, I'm
getting ready to go like this, but I'm telling them
before I go like this, I'm like that, like, yo,
we could pop that off.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
We're gonna pop off.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I'm with it, so boom, next thing, you know, they
met my they met my requirements on what I wanted,
and then me and Nas got on the phone. But
the crazy shit is that me and Nas we always
talk all the time anyway, like we hey, now they
I might get a call from him, Well we get
a call.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
So we always talk.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
But we talk about life, We talk about kids, and
you know what I mean, you know, his mom's goad
bless his mother. His mom's name was, and my mom's
name was, and his brother named Jabbari, my son named Jabbari.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
All this is just happening night of the blue.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
So we got like a real bond, and especially from
back in the early nineties, so you know, we platonically
build him.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
But when this happened, it was like Yo, he was
you know, he hit me. He was like yo, I
heard yo, welcome to the family.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
I'm like, yo, with's a honor to come over there
and rock and roll with y'all, you know what I mean?
Because I felt like that that that hoster was a
serious hoster, you know.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
What I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
And then on top of it, having my favorite you
know what I mean, like he's all my favorites. But Rick,
you know, to me, that's like that's like my big
bro right there. You know what I'm saying, Like we
always love the ruler, just style, storytelling, flow, bounce, British nigga,
you know what I mean? Willied up or you know,

(56:55):
it was just like wow, they got a little clip
over there, So it just happened. It was just one
of things where it was like, yo, I got a
project and I love what y'all doing, and one thing
led to the next.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
And it was only popping after that. How about you
that school reached all the Yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Were because y'all been inacted connected, was connected right right
right now?

Speaker 5 (57:17):
You know esco to brother like you know what I mean,
I know him from fucking preschool. So you know, so
you guys went to preschool. You guys will always say
he's younger. No, no, no, no, we really did I
know each ovor from the block. Wasn't it in the
same grade? We probably we wasn't in the same crade,
but school, but after after school you got to go

(57:39):
to pre.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Calling you in that court, I'll see it like.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
Like after things but until your parents get out of Yeah,
so we was we knew each other from there. But
it was a no brainer for me. You know what
I'm saying, Like I'm trying to I was trying to
do the project, you know what I'm saying, one the
one last of Rah. You know what I'm saying for
Prodigy and you know, Nah, scave me the lane real quick.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
So how hard is it after the fact to make
this sound like a mob deep?

Speaker 1 (58:07):
How hard is it? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (58:09):
I wasn't hard at all. Man, Like you know, look
that al You know what I'm saying. Alc got the sounds.
I got the sounds, we got the verses. It ain't
gonna sound nothing but mall. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
You know what you know who did that really well?

Speaker 4 (58:22):
T is Uh pre More and Guru that last album
they threw out together. I felt like Google was he
He was almost fitting ship like he like you have
facetipped like yo, no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
That album right there did not sound outdated.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
The balls sounded like Guru was around the corner.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
You know.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
That was a really great album that they put together.
But the mall, now you got your Wolf.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
But that's how this mall deep babble won't sounds.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
You know what I'm saying, Like this cit is like
when it come on, this shit is scary, like you
feel like he hit like you know what I'm saying,
And certain little things that he's saying is like he
got this like premonition thing going on. You know I'm
that way, but you know it's it's like that, So
you know, just get ready for some for some dope shit.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
You know when they say they got to saying, it's like, Yo,
that ain't age. Well, you know, lately I've been picked.
I've been listening to a lot of Tupac and the
man sounded like he down the block right now with
the ship and the messages and everything he was saying,
it's so relevant to what's going on today and other.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Arra segue to what Ray been doing interviews in promo
for the new album, saying, they putting a lot of
shit on our unbrother that don't even go under our unbrother,
like big crediting. They calling people hip hop and they
do good music, but it ain't supposed to be overhead.
And then that gets you the new viewers in, the

(59:58):
new customers, in the new people that want to get
into the culture, getting miscon screwed because you're looking at
something that they're saying this hip hop album of the year,
and his shouldn't even be It should be in a
whole another.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Not look no, not the cut your kiss.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
You know that had a lot to do with the
title because he it's a Danish folktale about a king.
This is it's called if his New Clothes, you know
what I mean. It's an on cartoon type of folk tale.
But anyway, it's about a king, right and the king,
you know, he's a fly nigga. He love to get fly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
This is what he do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Now, some scammers which I call industry snakes or whatever
the case may be, came to his spot and saying, yo,
we got some gift for the king. So, you know,
his men before you get to the king. He got
to his men, and you know, they was like, yo,
what you got. He was like, Yo, we got closed.
That's gonna fuck everything up for this right here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
So they like work, so they like before they went
to go to the king, they say, yo, let me
see it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
We try you know what I'm saying. So when they
went and seeing it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Now checking y'all, this is where it gets real smoothest
way it really gets real. So when they went to
go see the shit, niggas is like this, this is it.
So whatever is in their hand is nothing. It's nothing
in your hand, nothing nothing, no clothes, no nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
This is the outfit. This right here is the shit.
So now they go back and they talk, talking amongst
each other and saying, well, damn, it ain't nothing in
his hand. But we're scared.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
We we don't want to fuck around and miss the
opportunity to present sign to the king that might be dope.
So we're gonna say that is some shit. So they
came back to the king and then now they told them.
And then when they came back, when the king came
back and he's seen it, now you're looking at them
like fucking close hit man. But y'all saying, this is

(01:02:00):
what it is, yo, this is what it is. This
is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
So they sold him and it's something that wasn't real.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
So I don't want to go too deep into it,
but that's how I feel about the game right now.
You know what I mean, Anything that niggas say, we're
supposed to just credit it. We're supposed to just co
sign it. Oh, like seriously, you know what I'm saying, Like,
don't get me wrong, and back to what you were
saying about all I was trying to do, not hating
or no nothing the degeneration that's here today. My thing

(01:02:29):
is just like all of us is man's man niggas.
So it's like if we don't feel that way, you
can't sell me that, you know what I mean. And
I just feel like a lot of times we get
sold on shit because it's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
A vanity move for everybody. It's Yo, I did it first, or.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Yo this or whatever, or putting a lot of shit
to be shipped that it ain't it really ain't. Now
now look at it like this, Like in rock music,
you see how they they separate shit. This is punk rock,
this is hardcore that, this is this, this is that,
but it's all under the and make it all work
under the thing of rock music. So I just feel like, yo,

(01:03:08):
we be paling ship all up in there and calling
it this and calling it that when they really So
if I was to do something not the cuntry, if
I was to do something that was outside my element,
I might as well be outside with no closer and
ain't allowing, you know, whatever somebody else is dictating to
be what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
When I know that that's not what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
You know what happened, right, Remember they used to have
these seminars in like DC and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
How can I be damn shit like that?

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
And I never forget. It's really weird now that I
can't say who because it really don't make no sense
because it was just really early hates. I just start
saying now I can't say. Oh, it was like a
bunch of living legends was on the stage, just something
like this, and then people could ask some.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Questions after they was tore pandles know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
But some girl got up and said, Yo, what do
you think about the leaders in the news school?

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
This is when them boys was on fire, just a
never case saying that they they were the first young.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Group to have it on freyhere niggas just like yo,
who is they right? And one of the legends of
all legends and and I you know, he was like, yo,
that I don't understand that shit, that shit wat this
and this and that. I'm a high seventeen years old, eighteen.

(01:04:36):
I look because you know, we worshiped these guys and
I was like, Yo, they hating on the young dudes
coming up, and so I always told myself, I never
hate on the young dudes. But some of the shit
the young dudes be doing is out of control right now. No, no,
I'm keeping I'm not going there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I'm not going there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
And we got to accept all type of weird shit
going on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
But look, not to cut you off, right, you gotta remember,
they ain't come from the ship we come from, right.
So it's the same way how our parents when they
was hearing the music that we love, what the fuck
is that they came up under the OJ's and yeah,
you know what I mean, there's any meals in this
and that or whatever. So I guess in a way,
you know what I mean, it's normal for us to

(01:05:22):
be like yo, we can't really relate all the way.
But my thing is just that now it's at an
all time high, a lot of stuff that shit going on,
and real niggas, see, real niggas ain't really being like yo.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Hold up, hold up, hold hold up, hold up. Nah.
You know cause I look at our forefathers the same way,
were sitting here and we're talking about the canes to this,
the ricks, the karas or that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
You know, they taught they taught us to be this way.
This school is supposed to be this way, you know.
Now it's turning into a different school, you know. And
my thing is that do your thing. Shout out all
the young nigga because one thing about me, I want
you to get money, man, because hip hop saved a
lot of lives my niggas, you know what I mean,
And we and we turned the economy up into a

(01:06:11):
whole different stratosphere.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
So get money. Do what you do. Get money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
But stop calling everything fucking hip hop, man, you know
what I'm saying, because everything ain't hip hop. You know,
you might be ill at what your what your technique is,
you know what I'm saying. But Yo, that might not
just be hip hop. That's not enough to be like
Yo already, Yo, you get the fucking shit on your nest.
Shit I hate the most.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
You didn't earn the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
One of the one of the things I hate the
most is I'm a news junkie. I go to sleep
with the news on right if I'm home, I'm watching
the ten eleven o'clock news. I'm a news junk like
anywhere I go, Like, yes, last night I was in
Toronto watching the Toronto News and my VA.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I'm watching the VA.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
I want to see if they killing it dudes and
the ABIT like I'm watching right, And so what's crazy
is everybody who either gets killed or kills somebody like
rap star and they be like Junior acts, rollo wallow.

(01:07:19):
Just what we don't know who these niggas is. These
niggas don't even got a demo? Why everybody gotta be
hip hop? Who's kilt or even kilt? And what makes
you like a rapper? Like what you call a demo?
And all of a sudden, the news is saying rapper,
rap star. It's like, who are these guys?

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
You understand?

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
And it's like we always get the brunt of it
because I watch whatever whatever, it's always a rap dude.
And then you got to google them. I think J
Cole said it best one time said I ain't even nobody.
I had to google him after they was saying on
the news hip hop star, like you know, because just
because you rap, or you got a demo or you

(01:08:01):
gotta this, don't mean you really a rapper. And another
thing I got a problem with is everybody's saying they
in the industry. Like, what industry, bro, If you ain't
got no fucking money and you playing Xbox in the
couch thirty some years old, what industry. We all had

(01:08:24):
our moments, we all had our learning, you know, we
all had auntie rogers, we all had what we don't
want to call groupies groupies around us because we hot
right now this and that craziest shit is I go
see a boogie. He's performing over in Madison Square, guard
each other to come out with him. I come in

(01:08:46):
this green room and there's a dude that used to
be with me and punting our green womb grown l
ass man a boogie. A little dude up in there
like he wanted the guys. I look at this dude.
I couldn't fucking believe this guy's a lifelong groupie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Yoh, he gotta be John Blaze.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
And then we are walking a bogie shit, and the
nigga's up in there playing Xbox with them, acting like
I look at this dude, I can't believe he spent
his whole life doing this in green room and he's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Telling his family he's in the industry. He ain't in
no fucking industry.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
No I want to know though, like why you you
open up a Pandora's box.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
But you know what it is the people we allow
to be around us. Sometimes it's like, hmmm. They feel
engaged because they know they know niggas. So when you
feel like you know niggas, you feel like you it's
like you feel like you got a job with me,
you know, but you really don't do shit, you know
what I mean. You just drinking up my shit and

(01:09:57):
smoking us smoking our weeding and n catery, you know,
doing all of that. But I fool getting to it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Yeah, but they feel like they're entitled to it, and
it's an entitlement thing, you know, It's an entitlement thing.
And the more you go out, more you start thinking
that you are on the industry.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Yeah, because yo, yo, this thing is the number one
game that makes niggas think they got a job that
you're doing absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Could you say that again, brother, this profession we're in.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
If you let somebody hanging around long enough, they'll go
to their family say they working in the industry. They
have a job and they're doing absolutely ship. If you
put the camera on them and follow them for the
whole thing, I'm gonna try to talk more or nothing
but making plates taking a seat in this print.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
I'm trying to conduction. I'm trying to talk in morescow
fucking up the whole environment. They they feel me. I'm working.
I'm in the industry.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
One day I got this guy, this guy right say
twenty something or something, he making one of the most
bogus claims and lawsuits in the world. And you know, people,
you know, you got a weird society now that feeding
into that shit and pumping at you know what I'm saying, like,
you got people who just and the guy just on

(01:11:27):
his Instagram because I think he lost the lawsuit of summer.
He was like, yo, you know in this industry, oh
my god, if I didn't want to break the fucking phone.
This guy who's just a weirdough shoing somebody with the
most bogus lawsuit, he's nobody, you understand what I'm saying, Like,
absolutely no one. He didn't make a beat, didn't rap,

(01:11:50):
not down with the crew. He just try to sew
a rapper with the most bogus shit you ever heard
of in life. And the man get to talk to
He's like, you know what, not in the street, you know.
And I'm like, oh, so, now, if you sure a rapper,
you're in the industry.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Crazy that that's the industry. You mean, that's the industry.

Speaker 7 (01:12:14):
Were in that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Notice too, the tour starts when it kicks off. Yeah,
but November, Yeah, November.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Tickets or the tickets And ain't no be this is
the starting of the tour. It should have been started,
but it be only family and friends is getting family
and friends.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
And I want to pluck. I don't want to plug
something else too.

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
I just got a new show on Shape for five
for Sure Sunday starting October twenty first.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Crazy about time. They got one of us in the bills.
Ship showed it from you. You got it, you god?

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
This is what it is. Separate, this is what it is.
This is why try to tell him right, ray, because
you know how ship number one God, y'all this half
came in and he was like, y'all I made.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
It, y'all live.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Everybody's telling me this is it, right, don't get it
fucked up? We number one right, and yo, I fall
on the sword, bro. I don't give a fuck. I'm
the Losion. I don't give a fuck if I'm full
of the sword, Yo, is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
What I'm saying to you is.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
The reason why this works, and the reason why I
knew it would work is because he's.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
In the tell them, huh do you want this?

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
No, no, but this is just normal ship. This is
why I'm trying to pick him up for your show.
There's a reason why we watch Charles Barclay, Shaquill O'Neil,
Kenny Anderson because they all champs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
They all any Smith, Kenny Smith.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Now Kenny Anderson. We got the same legs. Me and
Kenny Smith left flesh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
We got the same legs.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
For what I'm saying to you is there's a reason
they're valid. We want to hear him too, short got
a show.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
On x M two. We want to hear the real
legends that bitch. So we come up in here.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
We talking hip hop. We love hip hop. We embrace
in the coach Q Tip, who never bothers. Nobody texts
me all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
I never knew nobody love hip hop like me. You
guys are up there loving hip hop, preserving the culture.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
This is hip hop. This is like fucking Kamus Wine
bro special shit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
And lit those niggas you're talking about. It's like they
don't they don't fuck with the rules. They keep the
rule book right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
It's cruise. It's supposed to be rules, you know what
I mean. And it's like it's society rules.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
But you know, we let that money, you know, we
you know, millions is being made, and you know, you
start to you start to, like I said, vanity, that's vanity.
That's when it is, start to take over your mind
and your soul. And then next thing, you know, before
you're doing it. You out there fucking wearing fucking Louis
sandals with with two open toes on it, you know

(01:15:29):
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Because because they Louise and all this bullshit. So now
you think, yo, you can get away with that, just
lile shit.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
But like I said, at the end of the day,
the same no assassination, you know, you know situation with
the younger generation, because hey, my thing is, if you
wasn't there, I ain't expecting you to know it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
You wasn't there, Now get money, do what you do,
but it got to be somewhere where it gotta be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Some you knowlet on order rule.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
But like yo, hold up, nah, stop calling that that
or stop saying this or start saying that, because if
you really look at it, like every every place got
they got they zone.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Don't get me wrong, like y'all was living in the South.
They get busy, they got they they got they bounce.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
You go over here, you know man, you know West Coach,
they got they sound we yo salute. You know what
I mean, yo, Because that's a that's a part of
hip hop as well. You know what I mean, the
way they do they dance. But we ain't trying to
do what they do, and they shouldn't be trying to
do what we do. If anything, we compliment each other ship.
But when you start doing weird shit and and and

(01:16:32):
you know, when it get really out of control, nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Ain't saying nothing nothing. It's like, oh I'm down. No,
it's all the way out of control.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
I told them the other day we were talking about
or not in no particular form, but we're talking about
Look I leave it at that man because these guys
nah nah, because he's out of control. So right now
they got the big ship. And who's rating this one's rating?
This one's rating this one's ratting my aunt, my cousin,
everybody's rating. Now you got one dude who's calling out

(01:17:03):
the forty eight laws of rat.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Yo, I rat it the most. You guys didn't spend
as much time as me of court. Pase start the rules.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
If you don't walk in by eleven fifty nine on Monday,
you're not a real I never seen this in the
history of hip hop music.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
And this is part of the shit you talking about.
You talking about some other shit too. I don't want
to hurt no feelings, but it's like, I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
We let a lot of shit slide, man, We let
a lot of shit slide on our watch. They should
have been reprimanded and just it's uncomfortable as it is.
We should have spoke up and been like, YO, that
ain't it y'all y'all, I'm a journalist. Emperor's New Clothes

(01:17:50):
out right now, all platform now. My Deep album coming
in October October tenth. The tour start in November November.
No bone tickets. We got a track, Pump it fucking Up.
Who got a chot Oh Ship only on.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Joe and Weave at the Turkey chot Only Joe and Jays.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
You know how serious this turkey chop is. This ship
is a fifty two fake out right, no doubt. I
don't worry, Jane. There's a bunch of family, that's right.
Something man. You trying to come in here with the
hood on this one. You your right, your rock, Yeah,

(01:18:38):
come here, Sis, rapid were doing it. That's how that
should be. That we're doing the couch.

Speaker 10 (01:18:48):
New mob beef right here now. But if some listen
to this new the new right this here gone in
your chain? Yes, d yes what yes?

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Lay that ship turn it up here. That's what you want.
Difference right.

Speaker 7 (01:19:22):
Now, Mark D, No, Mark D.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (01:19:26):
New York is just one trumb on the map, one
trumbing the lot. You're happy with that piece.

Speaker 11 (01:19:32):
I'm gonna need Jack Blindie saying to follow my words.
That's why the blood, money and power the fans turned
me to a monster, addicted to when they scream you
have one hit in your life, one second in fame.

Speaker 7 (01:19:46):
One of you niggas back up.

Speaker 11 (01:19:48):
Everybody pays, all of you niggas back up, Praise.

Speaker 7 (01:19:53):
The ring a vander Rody and I can full of
ole man ashes the asses on.

Speaker 11 (01:19:58):
My phone and soldiers from my me to bring green back,
bring you back, bring back.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
They just like fucking.

Speaker 7 (01:20:10):
Ring away.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Dollar. He's running bank. Bring it back out gets the world.

Speaker 7 (01:20:20):
I don't think God niggas hend me though many.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Classic ship get the world.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Wow man, no mony putting it down, saw no mom
he putting it down saws.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Stupid refreshed.

Speaker 11 (01:20:44):
Now, I can't waste want trumb on the map, You
want trumbing the lot too happy with that piece.

Speaker 7 (01:20:50):
I'm gonna need that.

Speaker 11 (01:20:51):
Boy said that by my thirst, passing by my breed
from blood, money and power events turned me to a monster, addicted.

Speaker 7 (01:20:59):
To when they scream you have one hit in your life.

Speaker 11 (01:21:02):
One second in fame, one of you niggas back up.
Everybody pays all of you niggas back up before.

Speaker 7 (01:21:09):
I'm start spraying. Then you ring around them rody and rocking,
full of old man ashes the ashes on my phone and.

Speaker 11 (01:21:16):
Soldiers reminds me to bring my gun, bring my flame.
Kills niggas on contact.

Speaker 12 (01:21:22):
Just like Ray can't FoST out in my a out.

Speaker 11 (01:21:26):
In my age drinking way, Willie, it's the thore woods
down in this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Here's some black shit. I MENI you can't thirty and half.

Speaker 12 (01:21:35):
Wools the only small people against the world. Doctor can't
meet that a small people against the world.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
You can't read this.

Speaker 11 (01:21:45):
I got machine tool, the big one, the small people
against the world.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
That got small plastic rocket.

Speaker 12 (01:21:53):
I was like, dude, that's the small people gets.

Speaker 7 (01:21:55):
Some rockets with the internet. Learn this, fucking dan, small
people against the world.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
You fo.

Speaker 12 (01:22:06):
Yo, shine baby shy. Yeah that's what I do. Your
niggas talk a good buy but never follow through it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
So slow deah little youngest street for follow your whole
filter for holes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
You lie go You know the coat.

Speaker 12 (01:22:20):
I ain't got to tell you. Keep your service small.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
That's a given.

Speaker 12 (01:22:23):
Got to be about of paper, not just partying, bitch,
just the big picture.

Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
My hi was on the special.

Speaker 12 (01:22:38):
Open case front on me because of bro open your face.

Speaker 7 (01:22:42):
I'm that nigga. My name ring all over the place.

Speaker 12 (01:22:45):
I'm good, damn man.

Speaker 11 (01:22:46):
You lie though, lie got your spot blung.

Speaker 12 (01:22:49):
You the reason why the cops.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Know what the cops snow. He is not low mother
fucking halls is my heart keep against the world.

Speaker 7 (01:23:00):
Oh it's not a good niggas freshing somebody, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
It's small deep against the.

Speaker 12 (01:23:09):
Fuck that was fucking up station.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
It's just a ratsody sat in for that of Stlow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Jesus Christ. When now I'm gonna come out October tenth.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Wait, shut up, damn, I'm gonna have to sneak in
the offices or something. Man, I gotta get my hands now.
That shit bothered me. That's bothering me right now, stupid too,
that's just so fazy. Should's bothering me. I ain't got
my hands on the whole ship. It's like you see
an episode of Gangs in London and some ship. This

(01:23:44):
ship is like yo, it's like Mobland. This ship sounds
so refreshious. Sound man, sound beautiful sound.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
We got the Queen Rhapsody, and the motherfucking building came
out of nowhere, pulled up on the dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Your rats all worry your rats rats. Tell them, tell them,
tell them, Tell them something real quick. Tell them how
me and you connected. Tell them where where it started?

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
By Carolina, you came down to work with nine. That
was the first time I got to meet you in
the flush.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
Yeah talking to mic Oh, I got it. Oh yeah,
just past that ship over a little something. Yeah, we
got bootleg.

Speaker 13 (01:24:21):
Mice, Carolina Bright Lady Studio and Ray came down came
to the studio. I was always in the studio, studio
rat and you was on already. Yeah, yeah, and say
you some records and you just show my love. He
got on the what was the first joint we did
Cocaine coconuts something coconut oil.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Or something like that. Yeah, and bless me. And you've
been in my corner ever since.

Speaker 5 (01:24:46):
No, of course, of course I remember, like when she
was getting was on her rise, you know, yeah, and
I was in North Carolina and you know, we was
around ninth and you know, he was like, yeah, I
want you the same same one type of situation, you
know where it was like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Yo, rhaps thee worry Yo, I never heard of whatever.
But he was like, yo, she get busy, you know
what I mean. And I wound up doing the record
with a down the line and look, you know she
from the cloth. So we supported whatever she do. Oh no,
But he did the same thing for me. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
Rab one of them guys that you know he gonna
support if he believe in you and he think you family,
he think you're worthy of it. You can't fake him.
He's like, he gotta believe in you and that's it.
You say no more, he gonna pull up. But you
we protect you, whether you know it or not, because
you're from the same cloth. So whenever you throw somebody,

(01:25:41):
you see me, we post your shit, do whatever. It's
like we we you know, people like you special, so
we gotta make sure, coming from where we come from,
we gotta make sure we can help you win as
much as we can because you know you talking and shit.
Everything we complaining about you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
You know what I'm saying. So it's like everything we like, yo,
the game fucked up. The game you not.

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
So we got to support you at all costs. So
it's it's beautiful. Ninth Wonder you know that guy is incredible.
Ninth know everything you know about graffiti.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
He be hitting me up, y'oll the bubble letters that
you know, he know about all that shit. Man. But
New marb deep in October they're going on tour.

Speaker 7 (01:26:29):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
It's so honest to Joe and Jada. We got to
get a segment for you to come in and just
talk your ship.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
You know you're right now. You just on the drive by.
She just came in for the exclusive listen. I mean
I had to come sure, respect like all the King's here.
I'm able to do what I do because of the
doors that you're open, every one of your Nah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
But you get busy, though, busy busy. You know, you
a writer, writer, and you you can tell us in
your bones, you know what I mean. Like, you know,
I love I love the fact that you stay in
your lane, you know. And when I think of artists,
you know, you know, it's important to still understand that
this is poetry, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
And she's definitely really on it like that, you know,
like she take it serious. And that's what I fell
in love with it about you, is that yo. She
really rhyme like.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
And she do She doing exactly what you said. She's
stay in the lane. She do what she loves to do.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
I don't feel like, uh, you know, I'm not against it,
but I don't feel like every girl needs to be
over sexualized.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
And all that. You know what I'm saying. She wants
rohms and beats. That's it. She wants rhymes and beasts.
It's soldiers doing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
All the talking for her. She don't need to know
what I mean. It's very well spoken. But you when
you press play or you she hits the button and
you to be setting and you know he got doing
this too.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
So it's like, you know, I just want to tell
you thank you for what you bring to the table
because you know, it gives us a little bit of
peace knowing that it's conscious, you know what I mean,
artists out there that do what they do, but they
doing it in a way where it's like, yo, we
feel proud.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Everything should be like yo.

Speaker 5 (01:28:19):
Knowledge, you know what I mean? Knowledge is important man.
And you definitely definitely a sword stress. Thank you sword stress.

Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
And that ain't this cracking?

Speaker 13 (01:28:32):
Kids?

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Goddamn it. Yes, let's Joe love Love.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Love.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
Let's play that ship one more time. That's that mall
d that mall des Lesure

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