Richard Sherman Podcast - NFL 2025 Predictions: NFC West Champs: 49ers or Seahawks, Packers Rising, Eagles-Chiefs Super Bowl Rematch? - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. Another season, another
incredible year for the Richard Sherman Podcast. We appreciate you
always joining us and hit that sub button if you knew.
Your team has a lot of hope right now, Super
Bowl aspirations all around. Mitchell, how are you feeling, Richard?

(00:27):
It's great to be back.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Football is almost back, my friend, and this is again
my favorite time of year, right next to the NFL Draft.
You know, I love me the NFL Draft, But NFL kickoff,
we got a doozy right around the corner, and we're
here at the Richard Sherman Podcast to break down you know,
this season ahead. Let's get right into it, Man, because

(00:50):
I know your allegiances lie heavily with that NFC West,
and for once in a long time, this NFC West
is truly anyone's game. I mean, we see the forty
nine ers, They're gonna have to battle a lot of
adversity this year, rich A lot of roster changed, you know,
the LA Rams pretty darn good, the Arizona Cardinals do

(01:12):
they rise from the depths. And then the Seattle Seahawks,
I mean a quarterback change, you know, obviously second year
under the head coach. You got to see some of
these guys live in camp. You went to San fran
you went to Seattle. Richard, talk to me, what do
you like in the NFC? Is it the forty nine
ers division? Because I like to tell you something, Las

(01:35):
Vegas that they're known for making odds. I don't know
if you knew this or not, but they're known for
making some odds and they favor your San Francisco forty
nine ers to take this division.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Do you like that or do you like the field?
My man, Mitchell?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I feel good about the San Francisco forty nine ers
always because they have Kyle Shanahan, because they brought Purty,
because they have Christian McCaffrey, because they have Trent Williams,
Nicholas John Bosa, Fred Warner, Diamadore leonor. These are the
reasons I feel comfortable, George Kittle. The list goes on.

(02:14):
It seems like a who's who of the Pro Bowl
All Pro team. But the reason, the reason I have
Paul's Minchell, the reason I look at that ten and
a half and I say, hmm, I can see it,
but I need to squeen a little bit to see
it because of the injuries, because the injury bug has

(02:35):
been so ravenous through the San Francisco forty nine Ers
locker room that it gives me pause and concern because
the last few years it's been contagious. And so if
you keep those guys that are mentioned healthy, I think
ten and a half eleven wins sound manageable. Those are
some of the best players in the National Football League.

(02:56):
They make impacts week in and week out. They will
be perfectly fine. They will find the way Kyle Shanahan,
Klay Kobiak, they'll figure it out. But it's fragile. It's very, very,
very very fragile this year. When you're top heavy like that,
it's like when you see a circus act and you

(03:17):
see the elephant at the top and you're like, if
one thing breaks, the elephant falls Mitchell when that's a
heavy fall. So could they win the Division of forty
nine Ers, No question about it. They're talented enough. They
have some of the best players in the National Football League.
They have one of the best play callers, if not
the best play caller in Kyle Shanahan, a great coach,

(03:38):
Robert salaz Back coaching that defense they have a talented defense.
He young in the back end outside of Diamador Leonor,
but up and Stout has looked really good. He looked
incredibly feisty. He looks like he's gonna fit right in
if he's healthy. Ronaldo Green looked good last year. I
think he'll take another step in year two. They like

(04:00):
they like uh, they like the safeties, they like the
linebacker and corps. I think this is again another good
talented linebacker and corps. I think de Winters will take
the next step this year. It's the detackle position that
leaves me really really concerned. You got the rookie CJ.
West penciled in as the starter. You got Jordan Elliott,
who doesn't have a ton of experience. You got Alfred Collins,

(04:24):
who they took in the second round, who they're really
high on. Who you know, it's a hard position to play,
so it's gonna take some time some experience for him. Uh.
Michel Williams, the draft pick, the first round draft pick,
if he's healthy, looks to be everything they thought he
would be. But that defensive tackle position is the one
that's really really concerning because if you can't get that right,

(04:48):
then you're gonna be in for a long, long, long, long,
long season, and you pick up Jordan Jefferson off waivers,
and I think he'll he will factor into the mix,
and I think Chris Caseric will maximize these guys to
the fullest. But you just never know. And if that
it's not like you can go do something else and
make a big tray. You can, but it's costly and

(05:10):
they're they're the second highest dead money in the league,
so it's not like you can make some crazy trade
and really secure that spot during the season. So this
is pretty much what you're going with. I think they
really like uh Marquis Singh in the in the back end.
I think he'll he'll start. They've been praising him. It
looks like he'll start. They look they were actively shopping

(05:31):
Jaira Brown, so I'm not sure how he'll factor into
that or what that makes will look like. On the
offensive side, they look really good, Mitchell, They look really
good as Still, that offensive line was a question mark
to begin the season. They didn't do a lot to
make me feel more comfortable. Obviously feel good about Dominice Pooney,
but he was a little banged up. You feel good
about Trent Williams, but there's a lot of question marks

(05:55):
and and a lot of guys that that that are
on proved seasons. This is a year for him and
Kyle Shanahan has spoken spoken glowingly about this offensive line,
but it's it's to be seen. They're they're a great
run blocking offensive line in pass pro is when they
where they struggle, and we'll see the first game of

(06:16):
the season. You got Seattle Seahawks, you got Leonard Williams,
you got Jaron Reed, you got Byron Murphy, you got
you got these fast rushers gloy, you got de Marcus Lawrence,
you got pass rusher galore coming in to boy at MAFE.
So they'll be challenged right out the gate, and we'll
see how well they stand up against that offensive line.
Because again, you pay brock Purty fifty plus million. When

(06:39):
he's upright and he has time, he's one of the best.
It's proven, he's got the highest EPA, he's effiiching, he's accurate,
he's all those things. Got great anticipation. But nobody's good
if you if you're not standing upright, and so they
got to keep him up right. Obviously, we mentioned all
the other guys they bought in. Brian Robinson the running back.
I think that's a great one two punch with Christian McCaffrey.
If if Ice Grindo gets held, I think this is

(07:01):
gonna be a great backfield and they can feel really
confident and excited about it in all the ways. They
could use Christian McCaffrey as a receiver, maybe even two
back sets with Brian Robinson. I think there's some exciting possibilities. Obviously,
they were without Deebo Samuel now, so they have to
replace that factor of their offense. Maybe they use Christian
McCaffrey in that role while Brian Thomas, I mean, Brian

(07:23):
Robinson is in the backfield, you know, things like that.
I think Kyle Shanahan will use his creativity the receiving corps.
Huge question mark.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
No, I mean, you talk about question marks, and that's
all I hear he's saying is question marks. And that's
the story of this team right now is the question marks.
How will they be answered? Because we talked off air
this week, I mean, you look at the embarrassment of
riches this team has had over the last five years
when you were playing there, Richard he had the Forest
Buckner and Eric Armstead, you know, clogg in that middle.

(07:54):
Now you're relying on these relative of knowns in the middle.
What the forty nine ers have really benefited from over
the years is they've had all these all Pro and
Pro Bowl players, But it was these guys that came
out of nowhere to fill in those gaps. The dre
Gleek Green Laws, the Teleanola of Fungas you know, Diama
Dore lenor being another one like who is that guy

(08:15):
gonna be? Defensively is the main question mark for this
team because while they are favored by Vegas to win
the NFC West, I don't know, man, My gut tells me, no,
I lean more towards the Rams. I lean more towards
the Seattle Seahawks that into the forty nine are faithful.
And I'm sorry, I know bulk of filers here and

(08:35):
listeners are probably not gonna like me for saying this,
but I just do not see them winning this division
without somebody, you know, somebody big, stepping up and filling
those voids. We asked all last year, how is Rock
Purty paying Brock Purty gonna affect this roster? And now
we see firsthand. I mean, you don't get the luxury

(08:57):
of resigning a telenoha funga, you lose.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
A dre green law.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Like now it's time for Kyle Shanahan to develop and
John Lynch to pluck these draft picks and insert them
into the roster to help level set this forty nine
ers organization, because I think this is a tipping point
for them right now.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Rich I.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Know you're cautious and agreeing with me. I know you are,
but like there are a lot of question marks, and
that's all I've heard from you right now.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
It's definitely an inflection point. It's definitely a fork in
the road that will be define the Kyle Shanahan in
John Lynch era. And I say that knowing that they've
been to multiple Super Bowls, They've been to multiple NFC championship.
This has been a successful tenure by every stretch of
the imagineation field. You're judged by what you're doing now,

(09:48):
and I think they've put together as solid as a
team as they can under the circumstances. I think they
could have done more to address that offensive line. Hopefully
what they did has bears fruit, But I think the
receiving corps, you know, bringing in Marquez Valdez scantly. I
think that's a positive move. I know his hands have

(10:09):
been inconsistent, the speed is still there. He looked solid
with the Seahawks. I thought he would make it. Obviously,
Tory Horton had an incredible training camp, an incredible preseason
and just beat him outright, I mean he earned the spot.
He has a bright future, incredible young man who was
very versatile, dominant at times in training camp for the
Seattle Seahawks. And so you understand what happened there. It's

(10:30):
not like it was because the veteran just didn't play well.
He just got beat out. That happens in the National
Football League. These hungry rookies come in and they got
a point to prove, and that can't proved the point.
He should have definitely went higher in the draft. He
looks more like a first or second round draft pick,
but I think he's a solid addition. I thought they
brought Sky Moore in to help more with special teams,
but also still a veteran receiver who's played on the

(10:52):
Super Bowl teams with the Kansas City Chiefs. Obviously they
were gonna move on from him. The San Francisco forty
nine ers. He had a big punt return for a
touchdown in a preseason game versus the Seattle Seahawks, so
there was some there was some some energy there, some
hype there, and they capitalized on it. They didn't spend
too much on it that they needed to solidify this

(11:13):
receiving corps. Again, the Juwan Jennings saga continues. They're saying
he wants over twenty million dollars a year and it's
starting to become it's getting to that point where Rubbert
has to hit the road. Either they're going to pay him.
John Lynch said, he's not going to trade him, So

(11:34):
you're not gonna pay him. You're not gonna trade him either.
He's gonna go out there and play well, which which
would be great. He goes out there plays well, I'm
sure he'll get over twenty million dollars a year. But
if he doesn't step on that field, if he makes
one of those moves where he sits out the game
or continues to say his CAF issue is an issue,
and they go on and play the Seattle Seahawks without
Juwan Jennings, WHOA, WHOA.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
To even throw the ball to at that point, and
that this this You got Ricky Persall in his second year,
rich and he's expected to take a huge step forward.
But without Juwan Jennings, that veteran presence, right, the guy
who's overcome a lot of odds, seventh round pick out
of Tennessee. You know, he wouldn't even see him during
the first two three years of his of his pro
career because he was battling injuries. And now he is

(12:19):
again battling this this you know, the calf issue, Richard.
You can speak a heck of a lot more than
I can with calf issues. I know those bothered you
towards the tail end of your career. How big of
a worry point is this for the forty nine ers, because,
like you just alluded to, without Juwan Jennings, who else
is there? I mean there's Ricky Parsall and then a
bunch of relative unknowns, a bunch of guys that they

(12:42):
just brought in. And that's the main question mark with
this forty nine ers team.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, it's it's a bunch of relatively unknowns and you're
going into the Kubiak bow versus the Seattle Seahawks. The
two Kubiaks's offensive coordinators going, We're gonna get into that
in a second, but but what who do you throw
the ball to? I know who you throw ball to.
You throw it to George Kittle Moore, which you've neglected
for the past couple of years, one of the best
tight ends, if not the best tight end in football.

(13:07):
You feed him more than you have. You've had so
many miles to feed with Brandon Ayu and Deebo Samuels
that you've neglected George Kittle, So you definitely feed him.
He's a matchup nightmare for especially the way the Seattle
Seahawks defense plays and a Mike McDonald's scheme, like the
tight end is where you have to go with the ball.
They do a great job on the receivers. They do
a good job disguising coverages. The windows are gonna be tight,

(13:31):
the pressure is gonna be there. But Christian McCaffrey in
the past game like, there's gonna be ways that they
can that they can navigate this space. But it's just
such a ridiculous it would be such a bad and
detri move mental move for Juwan Jennings for what he
actually wants. In the long term, there's an huge opportunity

(13:52):
here for Juwan Jennings to have the season that would
get him twenty five million dollars a year if he
goes out there and continues to just be in else
he's been incredible, incredible as a as a player, as
a teammate, as a as a competitor. He goes out
there and sets the tone. So going out there against
the division rival when the season starts and earning your

(14:13):
keep and going out there and showing how dominant you are,
how how great you are, why you deserve the money,
goes a lot further for you than sitting out and saying, hey,
you guys didn't give me the money I wanted, so
now I'm gonna my CAF is gonna linger on. That's
a hard one to play when you haven't had the
seasons to really support this argument. You've had one season

(14:37):
where you almost had a thousand yards, which is great,
but can we do it again? When you when you
try to make the point when you haven't done it again,
it's almost like you think it's a blue We all
think it's blue, and you're like, hey, I don't want
to have to I don't want you to find out
that it's just a fluke. I want you to pay
me now before you find out, like, no, don't, don't
play that game. You are who you think you are.
You've been dominant, you can beat dominant. You know you're dominant.

(14:58):
Go out there and prove it one more time, twenty
million dollars. If they don't pay you, somebody else will.
But if you wait and play this game and then
Brandon Ayu comes back, now there's a thirty million dollar
receiver on the field who's going to get those targets. Now,
all of a sudden, your opportunity to show what you
can do has just evaporated. And so I don't want that.

(15:21):
For Jwan Jennings. I hope he goes out there and
puts his best foot forward and beat and continues to
be the guy that he's been every time he stepped
on the football field, which is a tone setter, a
great teammate, a guy who rallies. This is the energy
and really the attitude of this offense. A lot of
time he alone, obviously with George Kittle and Christian McCaffrey

(15:42):
and the rest of those guys, but he sets, he
sets an attitude and a nastiness that they need.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Let's talk a little bit about some of these other
contenders in the division. I like we talked about. You
went to Seattle Seahawks training camp. You got to see
a firsthand. This team is getting slept on. I mean,
let's just spade a spade. They're they're picked the finish
fourth in the division. I don't see it, man, I
really don't. Second year coach getting his feet wet. This
team seems to have figured out their identity. They want

(16:11):
to get back to playing sound defense. Richard, Can this
Seattle Seahawks team take that stepup and be true competitors
in this division like they were ten years ago when
you were running that field.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yes, yes. If I hadn't gone to training camp and
I was just outside looking in, no insider information, no
knowledge of what's going on, I kind of. I mean,
I don't think eight and a half they'd won ten
games last year. I don't think they go that far backwards.
But I don't see how you have the Cardinals at

(16:43):
nine and a half in the Seahawks at eight and
a half. But I've been at practice, I watched them.
I've been in the meetings. Make sure they look good.
They look good. Clint Kobiak in this scheme, I don't
even want to call it. Kyle Shanahan's Sean McVay, Lafleur
O'Connell scheme is doing work for this team last year.

(17:09):
That's why they got rid of Ryan Grubb. No offense
to him, you know, no bad to It just doesn't
work in the National Football League. You have to have
an identity on offense. You have to be able to
run the ball. You have to have the identity in
a run game. In the pass game. You can't just say, hey,
we're gonna just put together a run game whatever, but
we had a great pass game. You can't play like
that in the National Football League and expect success. A
lot of times the pass game is predicated off the

(17:31):
run game. Hey, if you can run the football, you
get people to commit to the run. You can play action,
you can really move people and have a great game.
If you can't run the football in the National Football
League and you can't run the football against too high
you don't have a chance. And I think people saw
it glimpses of it in the preseason. You saw Charbonnay
thirteen yard run first play of the preseason. I'm sure

(17:53):
Seattle Seahawks fans were jumping for joy. This offensive line
looks really good and they have the right mindset, they
have the right approach to the game, and they're getting
great coaching. It's the way they're talking to it. I'm
this is coming from understanding what it takes to win,

(18:14):
being around winning culture, being around championships, winning Super Bowl.
When you get guys who are who are out there
sacrificing because they don't want to let the guy next
to them down, that's special. It's not every day. It's
just because people are in the National Football League doesn't
mean they feel like that. Just because they're in the

(18:36):
National Football League doesn't mean they take pride in their
job and take pride not letting the man next to
them down. They can take pride and feeding their family,
no question about it. They can take pride and saying hey,
I'm coming here, I'm gonna do what I gotta do
to make sure my kids are good, no question about it.
But when you sit there and say, hey, I don't
want to let the guy next to me down, it's
a different mindset. It's just shift and so that's what

(18:57):
I'm hearing from the offensive line. That's what you're hearing
from trum Cross, That's what you're hearing from Gray's abel.
You're hearing that from those guys, and then you see
the play come together on the field. I think that's
gonna be a really strong component for them and really
take them far. The scheme Abe Lucas looks really good
and healthy, moving people. I think that's gonna open up

(19:20):
this past game, and that's what Sam Donald needs. That's
what Sam Donald has run. That's what he ran in
San Francisco behind Brock Purty. That's what he ran for
Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota, and that's why they brought him
in here to run the same scheme. Cooper Cup has
experience in this scheme. I think it'll do wonders for
JSN obviously. I think this scheme works for so many people.

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And I haven't even seen K nine into a ton.
Obviously he's been injured, but you've seen the lanes, the
lanes that are there. I mean, we've seen what he's
done when he's getting hit in the backfield three four
yards and still coming out with eight nine yard games.
So imagine if he gets a lane, if we're talking
about split zone and he's he's seeing nothing but daylight
and one cut, make one guy miss in your house?

(20:04):
Call whoa scary Well?

Speaker 3 (20:07):
You just you just brought up a name.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I think this guy is going to break Fantasy football
wide open and win a lot of fantasy football fanatics
some leagues this year. It's Kenneth Walker. And with that
point being, is these young offensive linemen, the Charles Crosses,
the Abe Lucases, and then you sprinkle in some of
these rookies, Gray Zabel being one of them. These guys

(20:31):
on that tackle positions are no longer rookies, right, They're
veterans now and they're gonna be leaders. And we've heard
so much Kenneth Walker the third this could be his
breakout moment, an opportunity to bring the Seattle Seahawks back
to this beast mode style of running the ball between
the trenches. When you couple him with Zach Charbonay, a

(20:51):
guy who can take take a play at one yard
game into a fifteen to twenty yard game. You have
those two guys in the backfield together. I love the
Seattle Seahawks. There are questions right there are questions they
got rid of what, you know, what was their their
main focal point at offense, DK Metcalf. Obviously, it's tough
to see Tyler Lockett leave, a fan favorite and a

(21:12):
great person in the community. But you add Cooper Cup
and then you expect JSN, Jackson Smith and Jigball another
guy could have a massive year. The biggest question mark
here is how big, if at all, if an upgrade
is Sam Donald from Geno Smith, because to me, it
looks like they just made a lateral move. Maybe that's

(21:34):
what they wanted. Maybe they just wanted to get a
little bit younger at the position. You know, go with
the hot hands Sam Darnold, who benefited so much playing
with Minnesota last year and playing with Justin Jefferson, one
of the best wide receiving corps in football last year.
But you can't turn your head at the Seattle Seahawks
offensive weapons. JSN is going to be a rising star.

(21:55):
You've got the veteran Cooper Cup. I mean, that's why
I like Seattle so much much. There are, like the
forty nine ers, a lot of question marks, But I
like these question marks more in Seattle than I do
in San Francisco because I think they've got a lot
younger building blocks here to help turn this team around.
And when you ignite that mindset like you talked about,
you switch from just showing up and putting the pads

(22:18):
onto now showing up, putting the pads on and wanting
to win games for the guys next to you. Seattle
to me looks like a team that could surprise a
lot of folks this year. I know you also like
the La Rams, and that's why I think this is
going to be one of the most competitive divisions start
to finish in football. The La Rams are going absolutely

(22:38):
nowhere from where they've been. They are going to be
another dominant team ready to go. I know Matthew Stafford's
been battling the injuries, he's dealing with it, he's getting older.
But you add DeVante Adams, I mean you want to
talk about an upgrade to that offensive unit. The La
Rams are not just a division, you know, the potential

(22:58):
winner to me a Super Bowl contender this year. They're
very young. Defensively, They've Jared Verse, They've transitioned so well
off of Aaron Donald. They immediately at Jared Verse and
the other defensive tackle young up and coming stars in LA.
I know we talked about it, and I know you
don't want to go there, but would you term the

(23:21):
LA Rams as a favorite in this division.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's it's tough, it's tough, It's it's close, but there's
there's still question marks in their secondary. There are things
that I gotta see happen. I gotta see things come together. Obviously,
their defensive line is really strong. Their offensive line could
potentially have some issues. Matthew Stafford lower back missed a
lot of the time in the preseason. Could be fine,

(23:45):
but if if anything happens to Matthew Stafford, everything clos
out the window. Everything. Not that Jimmy can't get it
done and can't be proficient, can't be efficient and take
this team to a super Bowl. But I think the
the gap between Matt Stafford and Jimmy Garoppolo in terms
of like how they changed the complexity at the games

(24:08):
is drastic, And not that Jimmy can't go out there
and run the offense professionally and and hey they got
a great run game and make get make it happen
and get this team that ten eleven wins and get
him to the playoffs. But Matthew Stafford is a special talent,
and if he's not playing, and if he's injured, the

(24:28):
dynamic changes. And he's got a back injury, which is
those things are temperamental, and he's older, and he's older.
You know that father time is undefeated and so but
I want to get back to the Seattle Seahawks because
I hadn't finished on them in their defense and everything,
and what what Because I sat here and said it
was a lateral move between Gino and Sam Darnold. The

(24:51):
thing that makes it different is click kobiak. The thing
that makes it a different move is this run game
and how effective it has been in the preseason, in practice,
and how effective it has been throughout the league. I
think that is what makes this totally different. Now, if

(25:14):
you gave Gino this same run game with this, then
I think Gino would have the success he had that
Pro Bowl season, he had the year though in Petz
last year, but or was that the year before? Was
that twenty three or twenty conness crazy? But I also
think it benefits him to have all these people who

(25:37):
are experienced in this offense come with him and be
able to move into offense that he had a ton
of success in last year he went to a Super
Bowl with San Francisco as the backup to brock Party.
I think he has a lot of experience and those
things are going to help him. That run game is
going to help him be able to manage and not
have to deal with the pressure that he's dealt with before.

(25:59):
And this offensive line take some pressure off of them
that they've had to deal with that they had to
deal with last year. They have a lot of moving
parts between the right guard and center. There's a lot
of spots up to up up for grabs and a
lot of you know, three guys kind of battling for
for three spots. You don't know who's gonna gonna go
where between Alu and Jalen Sundale and Anthony Bradford, but

(26:25):
between the center and right guard spot. But they'll figure
that out. They got them all listed between center and
right guards, so I don't know who's gonna be the storder.
But defensively, I think the Seattle Seahawks are gonna surprise
a lot of people if they can stay healthy. DeMarcus
Lawrence is a game record and I don't think he
got enough credit. In Dallas, everybody said, hey, when when

(26:45):
Michael Parsons isn't playing, this defense is different. But when
DeMarcus Lawrence wasn't playing, things really fell apart. It falls
us apart for for Michael Parsons, it falls apart for
the rest of defense. He's a great run defender, a
great pass rusher, an impactful player, and in this defense
they're not gonna be able to double him at all.
Because you gotta worry about Leonard Williams, you gotta worry

(27:07):
about Byron Murphy, Jaron Reed, you gotta worry about Boye Mafe.
You got so many guys that that Derek Hall that
are impact players, that are really good pass rushers. And
then in the secondary you got Julian Love, the pro bowler.
It's a reason they paid him. They every court coach
in this conference speaks highly of Julian Love. When Kyle

(27:28):
Shanahan I went there, he said, hey, make sure you
tell Julian Love bro I did not know, Like, I'm
watching Julian Love like he is good. There's ridiculous how
good he is. I'm like, yeah, that's why I got him. Starting.
Kobe Bryant, another guy that's impactful Spoon. Spoon is having
a great camp. I think he's gonna have another great year,
Reek Wooling contract season for him. Very motivated, gotta have

(27:50):
a great year within this scheme. You see that Ernest
Jones we full year in this system, Tyrese Knight full year,
full time starters that I think they're gonna pick up
where they left off. And then Nick m m Worri
the wildcard, the Swiss Army Knife. They're gonna use him
everywhere in this scheme and it's gonna be really fun
to watch. They got him in the depth tronal. I

(28:11):
look at depth tron, I'm like, they're not given credit
for where he is at. You could literally put him
at every as the backup to every single position pretty
much in his defense, and they're gonna use him like
Mike McDonald used Kyle Kyle Hamilton in Baltimore. Where he's hey,
he might be at nickel, you might see him at linebacker.
You might see him look like he's at de tackle.
He might be out outside at corner, you might be

(28:33):
about deep. I say, you never know, And I think
that speaks to the versatility that this defense is gonna
have in this scheme. It's gonna be tough to deal with.
You're gonna see a lot of it on display in
the first week. This gotta be the first time two
brothers have coordinated against each other in the National Football League.
Somebody's gonna have to check me on that. But Klay

(28:54):
Kubiak versus Clinton Kolbiak, that's gonna be really cool. That's
gonna be really cool. I'm sure their dad is going
to be really proud of that. But I think the
Rams can can make noise. But Stafford's health is the
big question mark. And if your quarterbacks health is a
big question mark, then everything's a question mark.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
And the last team we haven't touched on is Arizona Cardinals.
I mean, this is another team the expectations are higher
this year than in year's past. You got Marvin Harrison
Junior coming back. You know in year two, it looks
like he's haded a lot of muscle. We'll see if
he's able to get involved more. You know, this team
made a lot of changes this offseason to try to
compete in this division.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
I don't know if they're.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
There just yet, but Vegas has got him over under
nine and a half wins, which tells me they're right
on the cusp of being a playoff team. Are the
Arizona Cardinals contenders in this division as well? Or do
you put them bottom of the totem pole.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Right now? I just.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Can we see Kyler Murray get back to where he
was two three years ago where he was given defenses
a lot of problems run with his legs. We saw it,
we saw it. You know, James Connor was a lot
more involved at the goal line, but two three years
ago you saw Kyler Murray taking over as soon as
they got in the red zone. This is what it's
gonna take, in my opinion for the Cardinals to be

(30:16):
a true threat is unleash Kyler Murray. Can he rise
to the occasion now that he's been in this league?
What is this year five for Kyler?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. He's he's a wild card
and you don't know what you're gonna get. Is he
gonna be healthy coming into the draft, Like he's small,
he's diminuted, demute, diminuative, and you you, you don't know
what you're gonna get from him. So you sit there
and say, what is he gonna do? What is he

(30:46):
gonna do this year? I don't know. I don't know,
Like what is their offensive line gonna be? I don't know.
I know James Connor has had some success, but he's
also you know, running back. You know, they eventually fall
off a cliff. So's he gonna fall off soon? I
don't know. I think they have two big good receivers
and Michael Wilson Stanford Guy and Arvin Harrison Jr. I

(31:10):
think those two receivers, I mean having two big receivers
that he can just throw the ball up and hey
ask him to make a play. Sure, I could see
that having some success, but it's almost like they had
seems like they figured Kyler Murray out a little bit.
And so if you figured him out, then I don't

(31:30):
know what is he doing different? What has he done
to grow? What has he done to evolve to help,
you know, change the narrative around what he did last season?
And so I think I'm gonna wait and see mode
with the Arizon the Cardinals because of Kyler Murray. Kyler
Murray just he had a solid season last year. He

(31:51):
was he was twenty one touchdowns, eleven interceptions, but they
didn't win. They didn't win, and so that you know,
at the end of the day, it matters. That matters.
They were eight and nine, and I think Josh Gannon
did a good job, you know. I think he did
a great job with that defense. I think they got
a lot of veterans on that defense. I liked Will

(32:13):
Johnson in that draft. I think I thought he was
one of the better corners in that draft. They got
him in the second round. I like him. I obviously
Booda Baker is gonna be a factor in his defense,
but I don't know. I still see them as middle
of the pack, you know what I mean, eight and nine.
I don't see him as nine and a half. I

(32:34):
see him as eight and nine again. And at that point,
they're gonna have to make a decision on if Kyler
Murray is the future or if they're drafting somebody for
the future, because if you keep going eight to nine, eventually, Mitchell,
you're setting yourself up for failure because you're in the
middle of pack. So it's not like you're drafting high
enough to get a potential franchise defining generational player and
you're not good enough to be like, hey, we're competing

(32:56):
in the playoffs where we got a chance and we know, hey,
we're doing things the right way. I just don't know
wait and see.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
So who's it gonna be before we leave this division?
It sounds to me like you're you're a bit muddled.
It's it's almost like a wait and see division. But
that's not how we do things at the Richard Sherman Podcast.
Who are you taking right now? I need I need
a division winner? Courtesy of Richard Sherman.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Division winner. And so this one's tough. This one's tough.
It I I don't I don't know how Matthew Stafford's
back is gonna be throughout the whole season. And that's
gonna keep the Rams at least second for me, or
second to third. They're not gonna win it right now

(33:47):
for me. I think they if they make the playoffs
and he's healthy at the end and they're in the playoffs,
he's gonna cast some noise and they're gonna cause some problems.
So I think it's between the Seattle Seaalts and the
San Francisco forty nine ers. I think the first game
will determine a lot. It's crazy because they play the
first game and then they played the last game, you know,

(34:08):
So that's I don't I don't know how many times
that's happened in the history of the game, but I
don't remember that happening anytime. But hmmm, it's in Seattle.
It's in Seattle. San Francisco's banged up. You got a
lot of young new receivers, you got your guys, though,
you got your all pros ah Angel. It's tough for

(34:34):
me to bet against them in Seattle with everything going on,
and all the injuries, and all the uncertainty, and and
and and in the d tackle situation, I got it.
I think Seattle wins the division in a tie record
wise with the San Francisco forty nine ers, but it's
gonna be a close tiebreaker. I think they both win

(34:56):
eleven games, and they're tied for the division, but the
edge goes to the Seattle Seahawks. That's that's what I
This is.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
The this is the fine line you walk having played
for both organizations, rich Well, this is.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Not even a fine line. This is really how I'm
seeing it because I think Seattle has enough to make
the jump and to do that and win eleven games.
I also think San Francisco is talented enough to win
eleven games. Now, if they win twelve games. If San
Francisco wins thirteen games, nobody be that surprised. Now if
Seattle wins thirteen games, people will be like, oh my god,

(35:32):
we're so long. But I see the Seattle Seahawks a
lot better than everybody else does. And we'll see if
my if I know football in Week one and how
they do against San Francisco forty nine ers. But to
say eight and a half wins is insanity for the
team I've seen in the way they've been executing, the
way they've been working, the get if they get eight wins, Mitchell,

(35:52):
I don't know nothing, and I need to stop. I
need to stop this. If they're healthy and they get
eight wins, color me dumb.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well, I'm not going to color you dumb, but I'm
gonna go against you. I'm going to be your adversary here.
I think the La Rams, I think this is their
division this year. I think Matthew Stafford does study healthy.
You couple pooking the Cool with DeVante Adams, and all
of a sudden, you know this wide receiving corp in
this offense, takes another step forward.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Then you got Kyron Williams.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Obviously you know Blake Korum's second year as well, a
good running back stable there. But the big difference maker
for me in LA is Jared Verse. As he continues
to get older and more developed, I think he's going
to strike fear in a lot of defenses that he's
going to be a guy to keep it an eye on.
Dark horse candidate for Defensive Player of the Year. You've
heard it here first, Jared Verse. Out of the LA

(36:42):
rams A Division, I want to talk about Richard as
we tie the knot on the NFC West. Is the
NFC North. You already know I'm rocking that Honolulu Blue
for a reason. But the big news out of the
NFC North before I go on my rant about the
Detroit Lions and how they're going to walk away with
the division with these is the Green Bay Packers. I mean,

(37:03):
this team is a team I now envy. I mean,
this is a team that's going out there and taking chances.
This deal for Micah Parsons. Certainly, without a doubt, pragmatic
opinion my Detroit Lions biased aside, this Green Bay Packers
team just got a lot better overnight by adding Michael Parsons.

(37:23):
That comes with the flexibility they have with their cap space.
I mean, the Green Bay Packers have orchestrated this team
so well they've they've they have not had to pay
any receivers. I mean they've been dealing with these guys
that they drafted a slew of young wideouts. They haven't
had to dab into the thirty thirty five million dollars
paydays that the Detroit Lions have had to do that,

(37:46):
the Cincinnati Bengals have had to do that. You're San
Francisco forty nine ers, whether they like it or not
with Brandon Ayuk, have had to do. And the Green
Bay Packers are sitting very very well managed from a
roster construction standpoint. They strike fearing me right now, Rich,
I gotta know how big of a plus is Micah
Parsons additions to this Green Bay Packers team.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Ooh, I'm trying to quantify for you, Minchell, please do
but it it's bad, Mitchell, It's bad. It's is it?
Is it? No, it's not. It's not Lebron joining the heat.
It's not that bad for you, Mitchell, is it?

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Is it? Luka doncis joining the Lakers. Let's let's talk
NBA here for a second.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Oh, let's talk NBA. No, because that's because we didn't go.
The Lakers didn't do enough with that. I'm trying to
understand a way that this impacted it so that you
understand this team is a Super Bowl contender. Now, this
was a top five defense without him. They were eight

(38:56):
eight eighth in sacks, tied for eight in sacks without him,
where Shaun Gary had developed into a ferocious pass rusher
without him. Now you're gonna have to Now you don't
get the double team Rashaun Garrett anymore. You hopefully double
team Michaeh Parsons, but you got other people to deal with.
And it's not like they needed Michael Parsons. This is

(39:18):
icing on a cake, Minchell. This is this is the topping.
This is the cherry, and this is a big, juicy
cherry on top of Green Bay, Green and Gold Sunday
that they're going to love like. He takes them over
the top. Menchell, He gives them not credibility because they

(39:39):
had credibility. But for example, if you take the game
we had Thursday night football in Detroit, Green Bay Packers
versus Detroit Lions. They won that game. Detroit Lions won
that game by three points. Michael Parsons, I think changes
the outcome of that game. Like that's how much of
a difference maker he is. I think he ruled when's

(40:00):
that game for the Detroit Lions. I don't think you
you can isol him with Penay Sewel all day and think,
oh man, this is just gonna go great. And I
also don't think you just slide to him and leave
Rashan gary to to just feast. And so I think
he changes the trajectory and the dynamic of this division.
It makes them the clear favorites in this division, and honestly,

(40:22):
right under, right under, because I still have question marks
about Jordan Love. I just don't know, you know, because
in big games, in huge games, he hasn't shown me
what I need to see to say, hey, he'll take
them to the Promised Land, because that's but will he
ruin it for him? I don't think, you know, maybe not,

(40:43):
And so that's the question mark. Now I think this defense,
I think they have a good enough defense to take
them where they need to go to win this division,
to be dominant, to really to really have impact, to
find a way to get home field advantage in the playoffs. Mitchell,
They I mean, they're with the phil Eagles right there,
but they got to prove it. That's the thing that

(41:04):
that differentiates them from the Philadelphia Eagles. The Philadelphia Eagles
have just won a Super Bowl, they win to multiple
super Bowls. They're proven, they're proven product. It's not speculatory.
It's not oh man, it looks good on paper. This
looks great on paper. It looks like they got a
ton better. But I think Jordan Love and how he

(41:24):
plays will determine how deep they can go. And that's
obviously going to be the case regardless. But this defense
is doing enough like they're they're going to be phenomenal.
If they're not top three defenses in the league, I'd
be really, really really surprised.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
And to your point, I mean, you you look at
this Packers team, Jordan Love, he's only going to get better.
In my opinion that they just added Matthew Gold in
the draft. Word from him at camp is he's, you know,
definitely exceeding expectations from.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
What they thought.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
You already have a very good wide receiving corps, very
young wide receiving corps tight ends. You know, is the
offense going to be able to do enough to be
able to elevate them to that championship contender? Because I
think you're right. I think the Packers with the addition
of Micah Parsons, certainly have a super Bowl caliber defense. Now,
this move reminds me a lot of what the Philadelphia

(42:17):
Eagles did last year. They took some huge swings. They
went out and got Saquon Barkley. I mean, look how
that all paid off. You know, in years prior to that,
they went out and got aj Brown. I mean, these
are teams that are not afraid to be making huge
moves that are going to impact, you know, the direction
of the franchise for not just this year, but the
next five ten years. Micah Parsons is one of those

(42:38):
guys that he's going to be a relevant mainstay in
this league for the next seven eight years and I
don't think there's much debate about that. It hurts me
to my soul that he is in this NFC North
Division because I thought this division was a Detroit Lions
for the next five years with these and now it
gives me a little bit of pause, My friend.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
It should give you Pauls because Brandon, I mean John Jacobs,
Brandon Jacobs, I don't know why, how old I am.
Josh Jacobs had thirteen hundred yards last year, fifteen touchdowns.
He's coming back. He's gonna be healthy. That run game
is as healthy as has ever been. The thing that
worries me is the two teams I just talked about,
like in Jordan Love and Packers. Fans can hate me

(43:18):
and feel how they want about me. But he threw
three interceptions in that game in the playoffs, in the
wild card game, they ran the ball well and they
didn't stop Saquon Barky. Sakon Barkley ran for one hundred
and nineteen yards, and you just got it worse against
a run like you lose Kenny Clark. It's not like, hey,
that's sure, you get Michael Parsons, that's phenomenal. Against the

(43:39):
pass they didn't. I mean, I think Jimenn Hurts had
one hundred and thirty one yards passing in the playoff
game last year. It's the run game that concerns me
going forward, and I mean the run defense. And they
were seventh last year, which is fantastic. I think it
was historical. They averaged under one hundred yards rushing a
game giving up so that was his for the It's

(44:01):
been a long time since the Green Bay Packers had
a run game that well. But that good. But then
you give up one hundred and nineteen in the playoffs
when you need to have it, your offense only scores
ten points, you lose that game. So when I'm talking
about Jordan Love, I'm not talking about the season he had.
He had twenty five touchdowns, eleven interceptions, But in the
playoffs multiple years, his interceptions have become an issue. It

(44:22):
was an issue the year before against San Francisco, when
you know it looked like they were in that game,
he got in a two minute drill through it to
the other team. I think back to back drives he
threw interceptions. If I'm not mistaken, my memory doesn't isn't
as clear as he used to be. But this defense
can give them a chance in those games. Now, maybe
it'll be different this year, and they can they can

(44:44):
be they can be great. They can it's gonna be
it's gonna be fantastic. But he has to show up
in these playoff games and win them. He has to
show up and make the plays that get his team
over the top and not the plays that that get
his team sent home. And you can be as mad

(45:05):
as you want to, but three interceptions, no touchdowns in
the ball game, it says what it needs to say.
And then you watch Matthew Stafford play a totally different game.
Obviously conditions were different and scope, but they had a
chance to win that game at the end and out.
The Rams were as good as the Green Bay Packers
were last year, but quarterback play made the difference in

(45:25):
that game, and so that's going to be the case
going forward. Can he outplay these veteran great quarterbacks and
get this team who has all the talent in the
world to get to a Super Bowl to the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Well to your point, and three playoff games started his career,
and remember he had a big one too, when they
took care of the Dallas Cowboys on the road with
relative ease two years ago. Jordan Love has a passer
rating at eighty three point four six hundred and seventy
eight yards, five touchdowns, five touchdowns coupled with five crucial interceptions.
Can he avoid that? Can he just be a game

(45:59):
manager and a leader that elevates this team offensively to
match what they are able to do defensively. This Green
Bay Packers team certainly scares me off a Detroit Lions fan.
But I'm gonna tell you right now, Richard, why I
believe the Detroit Lions are gonna win this NFC North again.
The Detroit Lions that they are built the right way,

(46:19):
and and sure they lost, they lost both of their coordinators,
but I'll take that as a huge compliment for what
Dan Campbell has been building here. You know, they lose
Aaron Glenn who goes off to the New York Jets.
They lose Ben Johnson, the mastermind, the offensive the offensive genius,
who is now staying in division come on, man and
going to the Chicago Bears. But they got a guy

(46:42):
in Johnny Morton who's been part of this organization in
years past. Dan Campbell does not tread far from who
he believes in. Johnny Martin was part of this staff
prior to going to Denver the last couple of years.
He comes back, he's already said he's gonna be taking
more shots downfield. The Detroit Lions have got some absolute
juggernaut offensive weapons. Let's start offensively, Jared Goff. You all

(47:07):
know what we're gonna get with Jared Goff. You're gonna
get consummate pro the guy who's fallen into I think
the perfect state of his career. This is peak Jared
Goff right now. I don't think we're gonna see in
terms of his age, in terms of everyone around him,
his offensive weapons. Jared Goff is going to continue to
elevate this offense for Detroit Lions. I'm on Ross Saint Brown,

(47:29):
one of the top wide receivers and most sure handed
receivers in the NFL. He is their safety net. The
big guy here, Jamison Williams. The maturation of Jamison Williams
over his first three years in the league. Now entering
his fourth year, this is we're gonna We're gonna see
him shine and I know it's fantasy football time. I

(47:50):
see Jamison Williams firmly as a top twenty wide receiver
statistically this year in the league. He can take the
top off the off the opposing defenses, and this is
exact actly what they're gonna need to be able to
beat a team like the Green Bay Packers. Jamison Williams. Right, Richard,
if this guy can have a thousand yards, you know,
seventy catches, uh, eight touchdowns, tell me that's not feasible.

(48:16):
I mean, because this guy is feasible, is very much
so prime another guy who's playing for that next contract.
And then, God love Brad Holmes. You know, they just
made a huge trade. They traded Tim Patrick, who a
lot of folks thought was going to be for sure
their number three wide receiver to get us. They were
able to move on from Tim Patrick and make some

(48:38):
roster tweaks, free up an extra roster spot because they
drafted a guy in Isaac Taslaw. Richard Isaac Taslah grew
up in the western side of Michigan. He went to
a small Christian school. No one knew who he was.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
He went to.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Hillsdale College, which is a very very small school here
in Michigan, very small. So well, he ran the wing
tea as a quarterback and running back. You know, speak
to me, rich I'll speak to you here for a second.
And then he goes to Hillsdale and because of this
lovely thing they call the transfer portal, he was able
to end up at Arkansas, where he was really not

(49:16):
that utilized. I know Arkansas had some quarterback issues last year.
They didn't really get him a ball a ton. I
think he meted out less than forty receptions. But Brad
Holmes made a huge swing. He traded multiple picks to
move up in this year's draft. In draft Isaac Tesla
and everyone questioned it. Everybody but Richard. I don't need
to live in Detroit and be exposed to Detroit media

(49:39):
to see how big of an impact this guy has made.
I mean, he was all over NFL's Instagram with all
the catches he was making this preseason. This is a
six foot four guy that runs a sub four four
forty who reminds me a lot, a lot, a lot
of Puka Nakua. If the Detroit Lions could have found

(49:59):
a diamond in the and Isaac t Slough and partnered
him up with Jamison Williams, with i'man Ross, Saint Brown,
with the beast that is Jamiir Gibbs, Sam Laporta, David Montgomery.
Where would you like me to stop? Because I know
the Green Bay Packers added Micah Parsons, But Richard, this
Detroit Lions team is the best youngest team in the

(50:24):
NFL right now. I think they've got the most players
under the age of twenty five that made the highest
ranks in NFL's top one hundred. That is offensively, and
then you look at the defensive side of the ball.
And I'm just gonna come out and say it. This
might surprise some of you guys. I think the Detroit
Lions are gonna have a top three defense this year.

(50:44):
And you get a healthy Aiden Hutchinson, you get absolute
stalwarts in the middle, Alee McNeil battling an injury. You know,
I had a terrible ACL injury. Who didn't get injured
Last year on the defense for the Lions. Thirteen defensive
players won on ir last year. I saw a crazy
stat after this, Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Eagles won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Did you know that twenty one of twenty two Day
one starters for the Philadelphia Eagles played in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Did you know it?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I mean, because this shows you the NFL is not
just about ability, it's about durability.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
It's about sustained availability.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
And the main one availability Detroit unfortunately did not have
anyone available, and we saw it unfortunately when they lost
to the Commanders. But you look at this defense at
the back end, Brian Branch, Kirby Joseph. They just added
your buddy DJ Reid on the outside at corner, and
then you get a Terry On Arnold, a Meek Robertson dog. Richard,

(51:41):
where would you like me to stop? Because I really
firmly believe that this Detroit Lions team is well ready
to make this run. They have a gauntlet of a schedule.
If you guys have not looked at their schedule, I
believe they said it's probably goes down as one of
the hardest schedules in NFL history. They're gonna have to
battle a lot of opponents on the road, Kansas City Chiefs,

(52:04):
Cincinnati Bengals, Baltimore Ravens, obviously the gauntlet of division that
we're in right now. But I'm telling you, I said,
the Detroit Lions win in twelve games, twelve and five.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Richard.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I gotta hear from you, though, man, because I know
you like the Green Bay Packers right now. But come on, man,
show me some love for my Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
At least, I gotta show you love to your Detroit
Lions and the Honolulu Blue Boys Metro because they are
a fantastic team, and I think Jared Golf is going
to have another good season. Obviously, their offensive line has
been I mean, along with the Philadelphia Eagles, probably one
of the best in football. The issue that I have

(52:46):
a health as always Taylor Decker low banged up, already
low banged up, And anytime you come into the season
with questionables, you concern, especially at all offensive blind Graham
Glasgow a little banged up, yep, and you're going to

(53:06):
have to deal with pressure and what doom the season
last year was mistakes from the quarterback position and pressure,
like people started to get And I hadn't said this
in a long time.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
I had not.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I had not said this about Jared Goff because he
just looked different in Detroit. I don't know if he
went there and they injected that blue collar toughness into
his veins, but he turned into a different quarterback. Not
not a more effective or better talent wise, just different
in how he responded to physicality and how he responded

(53:47):
to getting hit and turn and standing up and standing
in the pocket, standing strong. Like there were times when
he was with the Rams that his reputation was hey,
if you hit him. A few times, he's going to
start to get flutter, he's gonna his feet are gonna
get quicker, his his passes are gonna be erratic. And
that's that's the recipe for having success.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I feel like we need to cue the video of
you knocking out Jared Goff at the one yard line
during his rookie year. If you guys have not seen
this video, please, I mean, Richard, have you hit somebody
harder than when you hit Jared Goff and knocked them
out of that game?

Speaker 1 (54:24):
What?

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Seven eight years ago?

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Love strummings chasing Duff away, flag gets strown, and Doc
with a whole oh gets slammed down a bounds of
free by Richard Sherman, knocking along his speen, but does
a flag down back at the twenty eight yard line.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
No, I don't, I don't. I don't think I've ever
hit anybody harder in my life. But but that's that's
what happened late in the season. And also the defense
was just so banged up, Like, let's just be honest here,
you was still banged up. They were taking guys off
the street literally starting them. So I'm not gonna put

(55:07):
that against them, but they gave up forty five points
to the Washington Commanders and at doing the season, three
turnovers by Jared Golf and forty five points for the defense.
You can't do much with that. Jared Goff still scored.
I mean that offense still scored thirty one points. That
should have been be enough to win in the National
Football League. But you don't want to run into that
situation again and again. You talk about guys understanding how

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to affect this offense and say, hey, you got all
these great receivers, you got this great offensive line, but
the way we can stop this offense is hitting the
quarterback and getting pressure on the quarterback. So that's why
the Green Bay Packers felt like it was a need
for them to go get one of the best pass
rushers available in the National Football League to change the

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trajectory of these games when they play the Detroit Lions. Now, again,
is Jamiir Gibbs going to continue to evolve into one
of the best running backs in the National Football League?
I believe so. There are people who believe he's the
best running back in football, and he's shown that he's
been impactful, But how does he continue to take the
next step and what does that look like? What does
his defense look like? Terry on Arnold is a name

(56:14):
I want to talk about. That's my dog. I sat
there and had a great conversation with him at the draft,
and he has really high expectations for this defense and
how they played in the conversations and the connection and
brotherhood that they have in that back end along with
Brian Brandt. He has really high expectations for this team.
Aidan Hutchinson coming back from injury, he tried everything he

(56:36):
could to get back for the playoffs last year. I
think he takes the next step, but you got to
stay healthy, and again that health doom them. Health is
dooming these seams, and that's an unpredictable factor in the
National Football League. But I thought last year was the
year that they had to like do it because it
was perfect scenario, and unfortunately it didn't work out for them.

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The year before like a Cinderella year, they weren't expected
to do much and they got all the way to
the NFC Championship up double digits, and unfortunately it didn't
go the way they wanted it to. What happens this
year when everybody in the division is getting better. I
minus the Minnesota Vikings. I think the Minnesota Vikings got worse.
I don't think JJ McCarthy is as good as Sam Donald.

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I don't think he's going to be as prepared or
won the offense as proficiently as Sam Donald did. I
thought that was a Cinderella season for them that they
had to maximize, and I don't think they did. I
think they take a step back. I think the Chicago
Bears with Ben Johnson did a lot to solidify their
offensive line and at least give Caleb Williams a chance
to develop into what people think he is. And if

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he doesn't, it's clear and a parent it's him and
not the offense or the scheme or the team. It's him.
So if he has a good season, it's like, hey,
he just needed time, he just needed protection. If he doesn't,
maybe this isn't it for him. But I think they're
going to be better. Their defense is stout, they have
weapons on all they have Ben Johnson call into play,
so they may be a sneaky team. This is NFC

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North Gauntlet Murderers.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Row it sure is.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
I mean you already touched a little bit on JJ McCarthy.
This Vikings team no one saw it coming. Last year
fourteen to three. I mean, dude, the last game of
the season, they were playing the Detroit Lions, both with
two losses. Whoever won that game was going to be
the number one seed in the NFC. That is absolutely
unheard of, especially in a seventeen game schedule. Now they

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move on from Sam Donald, they get JJ McCarthy. Obviously
he gets hurt year one beneficiary Sam Donald. I don't
know if the McCarthy starts.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Year one anyway.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
So Sam Donald, you know, obviously took that team to
heights they never expected. But you got to think that
JJ McCarthy, with a year under his belt and with
Justin Jefferson as his number one option, is going to
have some level of success. You really see that big
of a downfall, and if so, how much.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
I don't don't like unproven. I don't like to go guessing.
I don't like to figure it out. I think they
had a sure thing and a guy who fit their
scheme and fit their system, and Sam Darnold I thought, hey,
it might have been a Cinderella season, but you know,
it's working. It was kind of like Nick Foles when
he had that Cinderella run with the Philadelphia Eagles, they
beat they win the Super Bowl to beat Tom and

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those boys, and then they go on and pay Carson
Wentz all that money and they trade Nick Foles. And
I understand you feel like Carson Wentz is the guy,
you feel like Nick Foles isn't. But sometimes the hot
hand just keep going, just keep going. Maybe this engine
only works in this car, but it works incredible over

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and above expectations. So just keep that engine in the car.
Don't sit there and be like, yeah, but we might
have a better engine in the back, Like, no, this
one's proven, this one's won races, like, go with this one,
And that's the mistake. I think teams keep making it.
I think Minnesota vikings On the newest victim of that,
and sure, maybe he does solid. I think Kevin O'Connell
is arguably the best play caller in the league right now.

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So it should be open, people open, and the run
game should be there and he should be set up
for ultimate success. But if he doesn't, then they gave
up Sam Donald in for a Maybe it's just the
same thing that Jerry Jones is doing in Dallas. You
have an all pro, three time All Pro player, and

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you say, well, we'll take two draft picks because we
might be able to draft some all pro players in
a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I'm sure you will.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yeah, I got you, But like, how does that help
you win? Now? And if JJ McCarthy works out and
he becomes a pro bowler and has and they win
thirteen games this year, I'll sit there and eat eat
crow because I was wrong. But I don't see a
rookie quarterback behind that offensive line, the offensive line that
was getting Sam Donald beat up late in the year

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in this division with a lot of really good pass
rushers always, I don't think they're gonna go out there
and replicate what they did last season. In every game
he loses, They're going to start the fans and everybody
else is gonna say, man, what Sam Donald has lost
that game? He went fourteen and three, and the expectation
shouldn't even be fourteen and three for this year, but

(01:01:17):
that is what y'all did, And so you're gonna put
that burden of expectation on this kid. So if he
wins seven games, Mitchell, they're gonna be calling for his head.
Like that's the situation, that's the seat he's sitting in
right now. And that's the point I'm trying to make.
What I don't think he's set up for necessarily success. Addison,
Jordan Adison is gonna be out the first three games.
They brought Adam Thielen back, Sure that'll help, but people,

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people are not gonna just let Justin Jefferson run around
and be Scott free and be open and just hey,
you know, we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna just let
him play pitch and catch with the rookie like I
think he's gonna have a learning curve. And during that
learning curve, will the fans continue to support or will
they sit there and start to be frustrated and say, hey,
why didn't we keep Sam darl If you guys knew.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
It's fair?

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
I mean, but this is a coaching staff that was
able to get it done with Sam Darnold, who was
kicked around the league with Kirk Cousins. I mean, I
know he's been battling injuries of recent but this team
was able to get it done with relative castoffs. Right,
So now it's JJ McCarthy's time to shine. That is
a big, big question mark. Let's turn to the Bears

(01:02:23):
quickly Ben Johnson right, Dan Campbell loses both corners. Ben
Johnson's was the heaviest hit because he was considered this
absolute dynamo offensive mastermind. Can he replicate this with the Bears?
The Bears have a bundle of offensive weapons DJ Moore obviously,

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Roma Dunza. They just drafted Luther Burden and Colston Lovelin,
who they love in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Right now, they.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Got a mixed bag of running backs. DeAndre Swift. Maybe
he can revitalize his career in Chicago. Are you worried
about the Bears as a speaking from my standpoint is
a Detroit as a friend of a Detroit Lions fan, Richard,
I'd be worried about the Bears. I don't know about worry.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
You should be worried that they're not a dumpster fire
that they you know, I think they had. They're gonna
have an identity. They're building a really solid team and
they're gonna have a solid foundation that could have the
potential to be a really good team because you got
to get offensive line, you got a good defense, You'll

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have a good running game. It's gonna be based on
how the quarterback played, and he played solid last year.
I mean, I know he had a lot of scrutiny,
a lot of people beating him down. He had a
solid season last year. He had twenty touchdowns, six interceptions,
and he was under a lot of the rest, under
a lot of pressure. You know, made some mistakes, only

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sixty two percent completion percentage, But it wasn't as bad
as they said. That's why I think Ben Johnson came
in here. He thinks it's an easy fix. And we'll see.
If he goes out there and has a great season
and he's the guy that everybody projected him to be
coming out of USC, you may have something to worry
about too, and maybe they may be that team that

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they you know, they that you surprisingly split with that
you weren't expecting to. But that's a big if. Again,
quarterback situations, this is the the new quarterback. I mean,
the question marks that quarterback for the Bears, question mark
at quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. What are they going
to do? Because that dictates how high these teams can

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go and how low. And I guess that's a true
for every single team. But if Caleb Williams plays well,
the team wins and they're a ten win team, but
Vegas has n't met eight and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
I agree with that, all right, So burning question here.
You know, I already got the Detroit Lions. Who do
you like in this division?

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
And I don't. This is the Packers won eleven games
with with the roster they had, and I think they've
gotten better. I think they can win twelve or thirteen games.
This season. The Lions went fifteen to two and unfortunately
lost in Divisional. I think they're gonna have a hard
time replicating that. I still got Detroit winning. I got

(01:05:30):
Detroit winning the division with Green Bay right there on
their heels and them playing. Yeah. Yeah, I got them
split in a series, but I got the Lions winning
the division.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
I'm gonna sound like you with the NFC West. I
think they both finished twelve and five, and I think somehow,
some way, the Detroit Lions won that tiebreaker and win
the division.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
This division, the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
NFC East, is the one I'm probably most excited to
talk about, just based on the new news that came out.
We cannot start with any other team other than the
Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Richard.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
We talked about it off air, We've talked about it
on air, Jerry Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
I just go back to Mark D'Antonio.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Man, I'm such a Michigan State Spartan fan, and he
had one iconic line as pertaining to Mike Hart and
the University of Michigan Wolverines. When Mike Hart called him
little brother, Mark D'Antonio went on and said, pride comes
before the fall. Has Jerry Jones's pride gotten in the way?

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Yeah? Yeah, he's gotten in a way, in a big way.
I think this is one of those franchise defining moments
that could have been avoided where you're drafted, well developed,

(01:07:03):
well all pro players. You did it with Dak Prescott,
you did it with Cedee Lamb, Trey Diggs, etc. You
paid the guys. Tyron Smith is in there. They used
to have offensive linemen, but now a guy who impacts.
You watched the Philadelphia Eagles in your division go to

(01:07:23):
the Super Bowl with one of the most ferocious pass
rushes terrorize one of the best quarterbacks in the National
Football League on their way to a Super Bowl dominant
Super Bowl win, and you said, hmm, yeah, I think
we should trade away our best pass rusher because that
seems like to the Super Bowl. It makes a lot
of sense. I know that every other Super Bowl has

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had something to do with defense and a dominant pass
rusher and a dominant pass rush. Even when the San
Francisco forty nine Ers lose to the Kansas City Chiefs
the year before, what was the defining play? It was
Chris Jones pressure on Brod Purdy unblocked that if he
if he's picked up, San Francisco wins that Super Bowl,

(01:08:10):
he wasn't he gets to a quarterback. You look at
the Super Bowl between the Bengals and the Rams. Oh
my god, Jamar Chase wide open for a touchdown to
win the game. What happens Aaron doren don ruins it.
Like Patrick Mahomes loses to Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay

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Buccaneers both tackles out, pass rush, beat beat him, beat
the crap out of him. Lost. So when you see
these things happen over and over and over and over,
and you see how the league has evolved. But you
see the factor in the end in these big games
is usually pass rush. Like you got the receiver quarterback

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combo cool, You have to have the franchise quarterback that
makes it. But defensively, you have to have pass rush.
So what you did was put your team further away
from a Super Bowl because you didn't want to negotiate
with an agent. So you're talking about pride comes before
the fall. This was stupidity. This was utter nonsense because

(01:09:16):
you can't justify this any other way. And you're like, oh,
we got a boatload of picks for Michael. Picks don't
mean nothing, like picks are are a bunch of fluff
and conjunction like conjuncture, like there's nothing that those picks
are gonna do to help you this year. And I
saw Daz Bryant put out a tweet, Oh, we're going
after arch Manning in a couple years. That's why we're

(01:09:37):
stacking up pick. But what how does that help you
win a Super Bowl? You are paying Dak Prescott sixty
million dollars, so bringing in arch Manning is gonna make
the difference. I don't I don't think that does it.
Defense pass rush is what you need to be securing,
and you just made your defense a lot worse, a
lot worse. Not that Kenny Clark isn't a great player

(01:09:59):
and a Pro Bowl player, and he's gonna be impactful
at the defensive tackle position. Probably helped them stop the run,
but now they're gonna just be able to drop back
and pass. You got worse. I'm sure the Philadelphia Eagles,
Washington Commanders at New York Giants, they're cheering for Jerry Jones.
Thank God, they couldn't have heard better news. Then you

(01:10:20):
have traded away arguably the best player in one of
the best players in your division, one of the best
players on your team. And that's not like you could
argue with somebody else, Like there's not anybody in the
league that wouldn't say he's arguably the best player on
their team. You're on drugs if you think otherwise. But
I'm trying to understand how you could justify that. But

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he can't. And when this team goes what they have
Matt eight and five, that seems accurate, maybe lower than that,
because you got a new coach, you got a new coordinator,
you don't have Dan Quinn on that defense anymore. Night
there's so many things that you don't. Don't have Al
Harris in that secondary where he's coaching these guys to

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ten picks, eleven picks, nine picks, sixes like you got
rid of a lot of the things that made you
great and got worse.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
I echo your sentiments, and we saw it when DeMarcus
Lawrence went left town too. I mean, here's a guy
who was a stalwart for this team, who spent his
entire career with the Dallas Cowboys. You know they didn't
they didn't want to pay him either. So he says
in his parting shot when he left was I want
to go to a place I can win a Super Bowl,

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and he goes to the Seattle Seahawks. You know that
right there, the way you're treating your veterans, and Micah
Parson's got to peek behind the curtain with the way
they handled it with Ceedee Lamb. You know that the
way that situation drug out. Jerry Jones just shooting himself
in the foot because he watched I'm on Rocke get paid,
He watched Tyreek get paid, he watched all these other

(01:11:55):
guys get paid, and then he says, I gotta pay
Cedde Lamb. If he would have just it's been proactive
and signed the guy three to six months earlier, he
would have saved five million dollars a year. I mean,
you look at the aman Rod Saint Brown contract, which
is pretty much what he could have signed CD for,
and now Saint Brown is not even a top ten
paid wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
In the league.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
You know the same thing with Bosa.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Exactly, and you look at the same thing with Micah Parsons.
Now he let this play out for far too long,
messed around, and he found out, Richard, he found out
in the worst way. And to your point, those those assets,
those draft capital, that's just a shiny object. The rycoldhar
reality of those picks. Unless there's a monstrous injury with

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the Green Bay Packers, those picks are going to be
in the high twenties minimum. So you're trading an absolute
game wrecker in Micah Parsons for a Pro Bowl caliber
defensive tackle and Kenny Clark and two late round first
picks or first round picks. That just does not make
sense to me. For the first time in probably ten years, Richard,

(01:13:07):
I would say I would trade places with the New
York Giants as opposed to being the Dallas Cowboys, because
the way they've orchestrated their roster makes a heck of
a lot more sense to me than what they're doing
in Dallas right now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
It does, and I think this is low. They got
him at six and a half wins for the Giants.
I think the Giants can win seven eight games because
of how their defensive line is built. More than anything,
I think they got some issues on the offensive line.
I think Russell Wilson is gonna be really solid for them.
He's gonna be better than Daniel Jones, has been no
question about it. He's gonna help malikue neighbors have a
great season. He's gonna help that offense to be a

(01:13:39):
lot more effective. But I think that defense is going
to be ferocious. That pass rush with all the guys
they have, is going to Brian Burns. They got Dexter
Lawrence x dex the rookie that they just drafted at Louisville,

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card Abdul Carter, like Thibodau like, that's those four on
third down and nine Like, who wants to deal with that?
And so not only do you get worse now again,
what we talked about, a defensive line of ferocious password
can ruin games. It can literally ruin games. They can

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ruin games for teams. So that's why I don't know
what the Giants record is gonna be because that's a
you gotta puncher's chance every time. Like they can literally
go out there and in two sack, force fumbles and
change the trajectory of any game. And you have guys
that can get there in a flash. So I look
forward to seeing them in action. I think they they
they get eight to nine wins in this division. I

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think the Cowboys and the Giants, flip I got the
Giants have probably more eight and a half in my opinion.
In the Cowboys, the left tackle Tyler Geiden is out
for an extended amount of time with a new fracture.
That's another huge deal. You got the philadel Eagles coming
into town first game of the season. Then you got

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the New York Giants in this crazy pass for USh.
You got to hope you can outscore them. And if
you can't predict the quarterback, then you got a sixty
million dollars quarterback thirty five million dollar receiver who can't
get the ball. They should win that game easily, but
you could also see a world where that pass rush
gets home and it makes it really difficult. I think
the Philadelphia Eagles are gonna be who they've been this

(01:15:25):
entire time. I mean They're gonna be consistent. They got
a super Bowl caliber roster again, they're coming off the
Super Bowl win. They're so consistent. One of the best
offensive lines in football, where the best defensive lines in football,
and as we know, trench warfare is what wins in
the National Football League. They still got the reigning offensive
Player of the Year in Saquon Barkley, the reigning Madden Athlete.

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Still got Jalen Hurts. They still got all All Day,
always Open aj Brown, They still got Davontae Smith. So
I mean, the talent is still there. All the things
that they need are still there to make another run.
So I expect them to win this division easily going away.
I think the Commanders right around nine and a half

(01:16:09):
ten wins wins if Jayden Daniels doesn't have this sophomore slump,
if he continues to play as efficient and effective as
he's been, and Deebo Samuel can come in and make
an impact like he did in his earlier years in
San Francisco. Defensively, I think they need to take a
step forward, But you know, I think that's tough. Bobby
Wagner is going to continue to anchor that group, so

(01:16:31):
I think they got nine to ten wins in them.
I think they go to the playoffs. But I got
the Eagles winning this game, I mean winning this division,
and I think the Cowboys and Giants compete for those
last the three and four spots.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
The one thing about the Commanders is like they're looking
like they're on win now mode too. They're kind of
operating like the Green Bay Packers, like the Philadelphia Eagles.
They go out and get Laramie Tunzel. They go out
and get your friend Deebo Samuel, like they have weapons.
The one area of concern for the Commanders they really
don't have a set running back. Austin Eckler will see

(01:17:04):
how much he has left in the tank. They really
like this to Cory Krossky Merritt, the rookie.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
But what are your expectations of Deebo, because it seems
like everyone just kind of cast him aside, like do
you think he can have a big impact with this
offense in Washington?

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
I do. I do. Obviously, ap Adam Peters, a GM
for the Washington Commanders, is very familiar with Deebo Samuel
and what he can do. I think they'll use him
in the right way. I think he'll he'll factor into
that backfield in the run game. I think he's highly
motivated right now. He's frustrated about everything that they dealt with.

(01:17:41):
They did what they can to protect Jayden Daniels so
he can get these passes off. But I think Deebo
Samuel is wearing for a really, really good year and
remind people of who he's been, and I think that's
gonna be really great for the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Let's talk about the NFC soft. This looks like it's
Tampa's division yet again. Vegas as them as a minus
one twenty favorite to win it with the Falcons nipping
at their heels, and then you know, obviously the Carolina
Panthers making some changes. And watch out for the New
Orleans Saints. Richard, I tell you what, man, they look
really really good. No, they are terrible. But talk to

(01:18:19):
me about talk to me about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
because it seems like this team has been on the cusp.
They've been very, very competitive, they're very good defensively. You know,
obviously Baker Mayfield, I think he's made you a fan.
I mean, he certainly has turned his career around and
made the Tampa Bay Buccaneers something to fear. How much
do you like Tampa in this division right now?

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
I like Tampa. I like Todd Bowles and everything he
stands for. I think this team is just a steady ship.
They're always where they need to be. I think Mike Evans'
career is a perfect analogy for who the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers are right now and who they've been. Just a
steady one thousand yards. No matter what is gonna rise

(01:19:00):
in the East, it's gonna set in the West, and
the Butts are gonna win the South. That's the way
it's been, and I expect them to only be stronger
this year. A Mecca Abuka has been praised a ton
in that training camp. He seems to be everything they
expected when they drafted him. Obviously, Chris Godwin that's been
there for a long time and and been fantastic for

(01:19:22):
this franchise. If he can be healthy, that makes this
trio a very very difficult trio to deal with. For defenses.
On the other side, Todd Bowles's defense always creates incredible
issues for these teams. Won ten games last year, I
expect him to win ten games again this year, potentially
eleven if they if the Panthers and Saints are as

(01:19:43):
bad as they they have been. And I don't I
don't have a lot to say about the Falcons or
the Panthers or Saints. They're gonna a lot of prove it,
a lot of things they need to show Pinnicks obviously
as the starter, and you know they're expecting big things
out of him. Uh, Drake London is it can be

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one of the best receivers in the National Football League?
Will they find a way to finally unlock Kyle Pitts?
Those are the questions that they have A j Terrell
still one of the best corners of the National Football
League back there, he has to find his footing back.
But yeah, the Carolina Panthers, they got technic Millan T.
Mac as he likes to be called. And by the

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end of last year, you saw Bryce. Bryce looked a
lot better. He looked more comfortable. Uh, he looked more efficient,
more effective, more like the the the guy they thought
he was coming out of Alabama. The Saints, I just
don't they named spend Spence, Sir Rattler the starter. They
named Spencer Rattler the starter I think last week, and

(01:20:50):
I just don't. I just unless I'm missing something. You know,
the covers kind of bear out there in New Orleans
right now. Obviously they got some veterans on defense with
Cam Jordan, uh, you know, the the talents there on defense. Offensively,
they got a lot of question marks. Chris Olave obviously
is a bright spot on that offense. But you gotta

(01:21:13):
you gotta understand what you're getting from quarterbacks. So I
think the expectations are low for the Saints. That's why
they got four and a half win total from Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
It's gotta be tough, Richard.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
I know you really can't speak to it because I
feel like every single team you played for had high expectations.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Going to the season.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
But if you were a season veat playing for the
New Orleans Saints, I mean that they're they're comparing this
quarterback room to one of the worst in NFL history.
Spencer Rattler, as you said, is starting, like how demoralizing
would it be that you talked about the Seattle Seahawks
wanting to play for the guy next to you. It's

(01:21:50):
gotta be tough being a wide receiver for this team,
no one. I don't know if I'm gonna get a
shot to catch from many many balls today.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Yes, it's been tough for years, and it's tough for
a defense to go out there understanding that you're not
gonna have much of a chance, you're not getting a
lot from the quarterback. I think that's a very frustrating
space for them to be in, in a frustrating space
for fans, and their only hope and bright brightness at
the end of the tunnel is is to think that
arch Manning is in the in the cards somewhere down

(01:22:16):
the line, and you're not even sure that's gotta be
what you know, what you think it is. You know
it's all up for debate, But I just don't know
about the Saints that I don't know what they're playing
is going forward. The rivalries, the marching bands, the offsets,
Saturdays just got way more fun. College football is back.

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Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
It's time to move on to the AFC, Richard. Let's
start with the afcis a team that just will not
go away, whether you want them to or not. The
Kansas City Chiefs are are minus one to fifteen favorites
to win again eleven and a half over under win total.
And the biggest news for the off season is off field, right,
it's Travis Kelcey getting engaged. I mean, I don't know

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if we needn't even need to talk about any of
the teams in this division. Man, let's just talk about
that for twenty minutes and we're good.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Well, you know, it's rare that you lose the super
Bowl and you still get a ring Metell and so
it was. It was great for Taylor Swip and Travis Kelce.
Happy for them. They look happy in every photo and
you know, every event they are, they seem to be
two supportive partners, happy for him. You know, it's always
loving air. It's such a weird time we live in
where you got to follow people's personal lives and and

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comment on on them getting married. But congratulations to you, Mitchell,
because you got engaged too. You get to it's a
ring season.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Yeah, man, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
I appreciate. I definitely appreciate. I followed in Travis Kelsey's footsteps.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
My man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
You know, he motivated me, he motivated you and and
and congratulates to you and and Bailey. That's freaking awesome.
But I think that the Chiefs again are the classes
this division until proven wrong. They're like, it's hard to
bet against them after being in the super Bowl five
of the last six years, they've been in the last three.

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It doesn't I don't I'm not gonna bet against If
I'm not gonna say somebody else's winning the AFC West,
I'm not gonna do that. Yes, Rashid Rice is suspended
for the first six games of the season with that
factor in potentially, but again, as long as they have
Travis Kelce, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and Spags on
the defense, they're gonna win eleven twelve games. They're gonna

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be in the mix at the end. I don't care
if they have home field avenge or not. They are
the favorites to win the AFC every single year, and
I have them as the favorites to win AFC. I
think this division has gotten more interesting. I think the
Broncos best defense in football last year. They have done
nothing to think that they've gotten any worse. Added Drake

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Green Law Toland Noah Hufanga from the San Francisco forty
nine ers. Hugeitions, still got the same cast of characters,
returning Defensive Player of the Year Pat Certain I think
they're gonna continue to be dominant. I think Drake May
I mean Drake May, bone Knicks. I think bon Knicks
takes the next step forward in this offense. Uh And

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I think they they I don't think they challenged the
Chiefs because I'm not even going to go there. But
I think their second I think they make the playoffs
and I think they they give people a run for
their money. Chargers with with Jim Harball again at won
eleven games last year. Justin Herbert needs to win. Now
that's it. There's people keep putting them in top ten conversations.

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He's got to win to prove that he belongs there.
It's hard to keep putting him in top ten conversations
without the playoff success, without the team's success. And I
know that the excuses are there every year. What weapons
does he have? What? What about this? What about that
we can make? This? Ain't excuses for Patrick Mahomes. A
lot of these years, you can tell me all his

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weapons in the playoffs. Some of these years you couldn't
tell me. Like you can't tell me you'd think that, hey,
if we gave Justin Herbert these guys that you would
expect him to take this team to the super Bowl.
So he has to produce. I think he's in a
great position with Jim Harball to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
The big question there, and because I like the Chiefs
or the Chargers coming into this season a lot, but
then they suffer a massive injury to Rayshawn Slater in
the preseason. I mean, it's just devastating, especially when you
see how Jim Harbaugh wants to build this team in
the trenches, and they just go and draft Joe Walt,
you know, and they get Rayshawn Slater, they get their
book ends, and then they go and draft the Hammer

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and Omar and Hampton, and they bring in Najie Harris,
and you see what they're doing. You see how they're
trying to build this roster, and then in one move,
Rayshawn Slater gets knocked out for the season. That's a
crippling blow to this Chargers team. The one darkar horse
in this division is a guy you know very well.
That's Pete Carroll. With these Las Vegas Raiders, you know,

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they bring over Geno Smith, they draft Ashton Genty, which
clearly Boise State needed. I don't know if you saw
them getting the doors break off of them and the
USF But how much is the addition of Pete Carroll
to that franchise is gonna change the winning ways in
Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
It's gonna it's gonna have a tremendous impact. I think
he takes them to a winning season for the first
time in a long time. I think he takes them
to at least them fighting for that seventh spot wildcard
spot in his first year. And I know people are like, hey,
it's boring, He's run the same things for years, and YadA, YadA, YadA.
It also works. It also works. It's solid. You won't

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have the volatility. You won't expect a volatility with this.
His scheme of sound. Guys know what to do, know
where to be. They can play fast offensively, they'll run
the ball. Geno will maximize these receivers. Obviously, Jacobe Myers
wants more money. He'll have a chance with a quarterback,
probably the best quarterback he's had in a long time,
to have his best season to earn more money. Their

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best player, brought Bowers, will will be set up for
another career year. Obviously, matchup nightmare. You saw that in
the game against the San Francisco forty nine ers, where
you know they just line them up and throw fade
balls to them. If football is easy, when you can
do that, I think Raiders fans should be excited. I
think it'll be a fun, consistent brand of football. They'll

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be in every game. I'm sure there will rarely be
a game they're they're out of where they're down double
digits or more. That's not Pete Carroll style. I would
expect them to be around eight to nine wins and
have a chance in the AFC East. There's not a
lot of tough to talk about. There's the Buffalo Bills,

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reigning MVP, Josh Allen and everybody else, and everybody else
in the Pips. I think Mike brabel will have the
Patriots more competitive in these games. Will Drake may take
the next step forward? Will they You know, their identity
is obviously gonna be toughness. He's working for more of

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the Bill Belichick style of dealing with the media. It
seems like he's pretty tough on him. They just let
let Real Peppers go, which was a surprising move on
a lot of fronts. But I think they'll win eight
nine games. I just don't see this division being anything

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but the Buffalo Bill's winning by multiple games. The Dolphins
have a lot of question marks. You're talking about Tarreek
and two of the conversations, Tyreek saying he wants to
be somewhere else at the end of the season to
what's saying they need to regain his trust. Just things happening.
Jalen Ramsey taking shots on the way out about respecting
his head coach and not respecting his head coach is

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just things not going great for them. The Jets with
Aaron Glenn, you know, they'll be tough, They'll they'll play
Manda Man in the back end. What does Justin Fields
give them? Is this his chance to have his sam
Donold moment where he revializes his career and takes it
to the next level. Who knows, we'll see his Baker

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Mayfield moment where he just hey, he takes the reins
and he looks like the guy that they drafted coming
out of Ohio State. We will see. Those are the
question marks.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
There's a lot of talent there though. Richard Garrett Wilson,
the big question I have for you is it pertains
to Aaron Glenn and his tenure with the New York Jets.
Is he's tried to change, you know, the way people
look at the Jets. He's not dealing with the media anymore.
You want to talk about some Bill Belichick esque play,
he doesn't even talk to the media. What are your

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thoughts on that approach, because it seems like the Jets
really need an identity reset and I think Aaron Glenn
is trying to deliver that for him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Yeah, I mean, I I don't know, because none of
that matters until the on the field product shows it
Like that works if you win. If you don't win,
then you just ostracize the media. They're gonna be pissed,
they're gonna talk even worse about you, and it's gonna
make your tenure even shorter. So it could work out
great if you're winning and people are like, yeah, he's

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all business cool, perfect, But if you're not winning, you're
gonna have to answer questions, you're gonna have to talk
to the media, and they're going to write worse things
about you because they're human beings and they're like, hey,
he's being he's being addict to us. We're gonna be
a dic to him, and that's just human nature. The
team's not winning, I'm sure those writers in Boston couldn't

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wait to write things right Bill Belichi, bad things about
Bill Belichick when they were losing, and things, you know,
we're falling a park after Tom left, like because you
have been that way to him. These are humans, that's
what's gonna happen. But if if they win, it's gonna
go great. It's gonna be a different culture in New
York and the team will follow suit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Let's talk about the AFC North. There's a lot of
storylines here. Vegas likes the Ravens to win it, you know,
and in fact, they're a super Bowl favorite this year.
The Baltimore Ravens are. They're followed closely here behind by
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Obviously Aaron Rodgers enters the fold there
the Bengals. I mean, can this team finally reach their potential?

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It seems like every year we talk about how good
Joe Burrow is, how Jamar Chase is playing. But they
got off to a slow start last year, they got
off to a slow start the year before that, and
they've just been trying to play catch up. Like, who's
your biggest competitor to the Ravens. Do the Bengals have
an opportunity here to regrain the stronghold and potentially make

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another run at a Super Bowl appearance.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Well, they'll be their greatest competitor in a head to
ahead game. I think they you know, they've already proven
that they can score on this defense and they can
keep up. But the Bengals problem is that they're thirty
for thirty This I got thirty for thirty ESPN because
they're gonna average thirty points to a game on offense
and they're gonna give up thirty points a game on defense.

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That's been the story, that's been their Achilles heel. So
it doesn't matter that Joe Burrow had one of the
best seasons of any quarterback in the National Football League
because your defense is so bad it ends up being
a nine to eight season and you got two of
the best receivers in the National Football League, it doesn't
matter because you got one of the worst defenses in
the league. And unless they can change that narrative and

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their defense can give them any semblance of putting up
a fight, they're gonna have a hard time. They're gonna
have a hard time winning this division or being competitive
because of that. They're literally negating all the greatness that
they have on offense with how terrible their defense is.
So if obviously signing Trey Hendrickson is a big deal

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because he's their best player. They're gonna have to find
a way to to get some stops on defense in
order for me to put them in there. Vegas has
them nine and a half wins. I could agree with
that if they could just get some stops. Well, you
think the Ravens win this division.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
You talked about Trey Hendrickson, and he was a storyline
in this division a lot of it. And the way
they did not want to pay him, they made it
abundantly clear. And even when they did pay him, they
just said, hey, here's an extra fourteen million dollars. We're
going to bring you up to thirty million dollars for
the year. We're not going to give you any long
term security that he was after. Like you've already talked
about this ad nauseum for the last three, four or

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five years. How poorly managed the Cincinnati Bengals are. They
don't want to pay any of their players. That remind
us a lot of the Dallas Cowboys, Richard, this is
the best defensive player they've got. The Bengals have finished
twenty fifth on defense last year season, bottom half of
the league. For the fast past five years that Burrow
has been in the league, Like, why do you do

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this to one of your best players that needs to
help the most on the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
I don't know, I don't know. It's insanity, I mean,
but it's the same insanity that goes to making Jamar
Chase play on his last year of his deal and
then you have to pay him forty million dollars instead
of just paying him the thirty five million that Justin
Jefferson he wanted. I think he said he wanted one
hundred thousand more than Justin Jefferson got. That's all he

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wanted was to say I wanted I got more than
Justin Jefferson. They end up paying him five million dollars
more per year than what Justin Jefferson got because they
wanted to stupidly wait for him to see. Well, I
don't know what you were seeing. He's already a great receiver.
You were seeing if he got injured or something, and
it would be cheaper for you to pay him later.
Ended up biting you an ass. And I think the

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same thing is true with Trey Henderson. They gave him
more money or something moved some of his money, and
I think gave him thirty million dollars this year, which
is fine, but you also wasted time with your first
round draft pick, Sjamar Stewart, and that was a stupid
decision because you want him to get acclimated to the
NFL game and to have all the time to be
prepared to have the most impactful rookie season he can.

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But instead you're fighting over a minimal language in the
contract and almost to the point where he goes back
to college, and that, again, that's just not what you want,
especially a guy you just drafted to change, help change,
help Trey Hendrickson. So two of the most important guys
on your defense you're pissing off. So hopefully they get

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that fixed, and Shamar Stewart is in, Trey Hendricks' is in,
and maybe those two helped them solidify this defense that's
been in the bottom half of the league for four
of Joe burrows five years. Can the Steelers be something
with Aaron Rodgers it's a question mark.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Can they be something worthwhile? Because right now they're just
seeing more of a storyline. I mean this, this is
we talked about tipping points. Mike Toimeland's one of the
best coaches in the NFL, but I think I would
have to imagine just making the playoffs is not good
enough anymore. Of the Pittsburgh Steelers fan base and their
ownership group, What does the addition of Aaron Rodgers really

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do to tip the scales more in that favor? Because
to me, it seemed like Pittsburgh Steelers waited too long.
They waited too long to address the quarterback. They drafted
Will Howard in the draft, and then they started waiting around.
Why didn't they just resign Russell Wilson? Why didn't they
re sign Justin Fields. I mean, this is a guy
that was four and two before bringing back Russell last year. Instead,

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they turned to Aaron Rodgers, who was a bigger name
in my opinion than he is a differentiator in the
wing column. Do you think the Steelers can get above
five hundred? Do you think they can get back to
the playoffs with Aaron Rodgers at the helm?

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
I don't know, because I don't know how Aaron Rodgers
is going to play. You know, I think the last
two years, one of them he was injured for most
of the year. Are injured four plays into the season?

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
The next year he was a erratic and not great
not great by any stretch to imagine. So can he
get back to the Aaron Rodgers that won four MVPs?
I don't think so. I don't think he can get
to that ceiling anymore. But can he even get close
to's just Pro Bowl caliber? The guy that can throw
for three hundred be really efficient, you know, the guy

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that rarely throws interceptions, that has twenty five touchdowns four interceptions?
Can he throw thirty touchdowns? What can Dk Metcalf do?
They did a lot this offseason. I mean, they brought
in Darius Slay, friend of the program. They traded for
Jalen Ramsey. Cam Hayward's upset about the money because he
sees everybody else getting their money and he's like, where's mine.

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They traded away George Pickens to the Dallas Cowboys, So
how do you replace that production is DK? Because you can't.
They're gonna double Dk Metcalf. So a lot of it
is on Aaron Rodgers shoulders. Can he get back to
the guy that we all know him to beat, which
is one of the best quarterbacks to ever grace the
football field. That's the big question, and I think that's

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what they're banking on. The reason why they didn't sign
Russell Wilson or Justin Fields because they felt like they
saw their ceilings. They know what their ceilings are, and
their ceilings aren't aren't able to get them to a
super Bowl or even in those conversations. So can Aaron
Rodgers be better? I don't. I don't know. We don't know.
We'll see. If he plays like he did last year,

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I don't think that's high enough to get to Sam,
I mean the Pittsburgh Steelers where they want to be.
But we'll see, we'll see. It's gonna be an interesting
storyline or it's gonna be something to talk about. But
if he if he doesn't play well early, it's it's
we're gonna know early, and they don't have anywhere to pivot,
Like you're not gonna go to Will Howard in the

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middle of the season with Aaron Rodgers think, oh man,
that's our future. Now, no, you're not. And then the
questions about Mike Tomlan going forward, coming coming to play,
do you make a change there again, like you're saying
he's he's never had a losing season and he went
won ten games last year and he'll find a way
to win ten games this year, But do you get
frustrated with that, Like the Seattle Seahawks deal with Pete

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Carroll and you say, Okay, that's enough, Like we want
to go a different direction. The Pittsburgh Steelers organization hasn't
been one to make moves like that in their history.
A lot of their coaches stay for a long time
and coach there for a long time regardless. So I
just don't know. I don't see them making a move.
But I also if Aaron Rodgers doesn't play well, this

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season could go bad really fast. But you have a
dynamic secondary with Joey Porter Jr. Darius slay In, Jalen Ramsey.
You have a great pass us with JJ I mean TJ. Watt,
cam Heyward, Alex high Smith. You have the pieces there
to make a run, but they're gonna have to put

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it all together.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
And finally, the AFC South, this looks again like the
Houston Texans division to lose. Vegas likes them a lot
plus one five to win the division. Do you like
the Texans? I mean, this is CJ. Stroud's third year
in the league. We saw a lot of regression in
his sophomore season. Do you think he gets back to
his rookie ways and his winning ways.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Yeah, I think he does. I think he does. I
like the addition of Mick Chubb to that team. Obviously,
with Joe Mixon miss in the first four games of
the season, a healthy Nicocollins, I think he's a top
five receiver in the National Football League if he's healthy
and he's doing what he needs to do. But again,
health is a big factor in it. They got rid

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of Laramie Tunsel. That's a I'm not sure how I
feel about that or how that will play out in
the long run. They still have a great pass rush
with Danil Hunter and Will Anderson. Derek Stingley is honestly
one of the top couple of corners of the National
Football League. Unfortunate stuff happening with Jimmy Wards, so there's

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you know, but you still got Petrie back there, and
you know they have enough talent. They They're in a
weak division with the Colts. It seems like they're giving
up on Anthony Richardson in starting Daniel Jones. You know,
it doesn't speak great volumes about what you could expect
from them, But maybe Daniel Jones turns it around. Uh
and has a great season. They have great weapons and

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and guys that can make plays down the field. Jacksonville
Jaguars drafted Travis Hunter to play both sides. That'll be
the storyline of the season for that team, just seeing
what he does. But Brian Thomas already developing into one
of the top receivers in the National Football League. What
can he do? And and obviously, you know how I
feel about the quarterback in Jacksonville and Rich I love him.

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What's not to love. He's the best. But if he
doesn't have if they don't win the win this year
and he doesn't go to the playoffs, what did the
conversations start to become about the quarterback? And what does
that look like moving forward? The Titans cam Ward, what
is he going to be able to do with that team?
Obviously he's showing flat during the preseason. But he's one

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of the most the least talked about number one picks
in the history of the National Football League. You almost
you almost talk about him like he's a third round
draft pick, Like, oh yeah, yeah, they got cam Ward
the number one pick in the draft, But I don't
think they have a tough talent around him to to
really make a ton of noise this season. I think
they surprise some people and and and win some games
they shouldn't. I think he's gonna be up for Rookie

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of the Year with his performances just because he's the
quarterback and he'll he'll put up stats and he'll start
from day one, but not a lot, not a lot
of things.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
I'm gonna throw two names at you because I know
we got some folks that filed fantasy football. Here two
names for you guys to keep an eye on. Jalen
Higgins for the Houston Taxans. He's a rookie out of
Iowa State. Look Out for him. He's gonna fill He's
a big receiver opposite of Nico Collins. You saw what
Tank Dell was able to do there and that wide
re tiver re stiver two spot. Jalen Higgins, look out

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for him. And then I know one of your Stanford
a lumb And I'm gonna butcher his name here, Richards,
help me out. Elk Ao Minor is that correct? Alimaynor
Eleck Alimaanor from the Tennessee Titans has been getting a
lot of love throughout training camp. Cam Ward is in
desperate search for who's gonna be the wide receiver to

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throw to. Look out for both of those guys this division.
While the Tennessee the Houston Texans are expected to walk
away with it. It could be interesting, but that concludes
our division recaps. I gotta ask you, though, man, this
is our prediction time for you, Richard. We're gonna keep
receipts going throughout the season. I gotta know who's gonna

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win the NFC, and who's gonna win the NFC, and finally,
who's your Super Bowl champ.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
NFC. You know I want to be Homer. I want
to go with San Francisco or Seattle. I just don't
know if this is their year this year, unless some
drastic things happen or some young guys step up in
a big way. I think the Philadelphia Eagles they're just
too consistent, too talented on both sides of the offensive
and defensive line. They have some some question marks in

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the secondary, but they also have Quinjon Mitchell had a
phenomenal rookie season all the way down to the Super
Bowl and played well in the playoffs. I think he
continues to thrive. But I think the Philadelphia egos. It's
hard to root against them inn NFC. I got them
winning an NFC unless some drastic injury news happens to
their major players. They still got Saquon Barkley, AJ Brown,

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Jalen Hurts, et cetera, et cetera. The list goes on
Lane Johnson. So I just don't see a path where
they they're just knocked off unless major injuries happen in
some critical spots. AFC wise, it's boring to to say this,
and it's hard to go against the Kansas City Chiefs.

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I want to I want to say Baltimore is gonna
win it. I want to say the Buffalo Bill's got
a chance. I want to say the Bengals are gonna
make one of them crazy runs like they did. But
it's difficult for me to go against the canon The
City Chiefs because even when they have a down year
like they did last year and the year before, where
you're like Patrick Mahomes came back down to Earth, they're
still in the Super Bowl. You're like, oh, they don't

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got home field advantage, they're gonna struggle, and they're still
in the super Bowl. You're like, man, they're beat up
going into the playoffs and they're still in the Super Bowl. Man,
they had to move. They're all Pro guard left guard
to tackle, and they're still in the Super Bowl. So
I just have a hard time rooting against them. They
still have Spags running that defense, they have a secondary

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and guys back there making plays. They still have Chris Jones,
they still have Nick Bolton. It's just hard to bet
against them right now. So I got the Kansas City
Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles, I.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Guess, And who's taking home the crown?

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
I would if it goes the way it did last year,
I would say the Philadelphia Eagles go back to back.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Richard, I got the Lions playing the Bills lines coming
away victorious. I know that's not going to surprise you
one bit. Let's talk about our MVP candidates. Last year,
Josh Allen ended up winning it over Lamar Jackson. I
know you weren't necessarily thrilled with that. But who do
you think is going to take home the hardware this year?

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
I think Joe Burrow will be in the mix. I
want to say, I want to say he would win it.
I honestly think he had a better case than Josh Hallen.
Last year, I thought Lamar had a way better case,
one of the most efficient seasons in the history of
the National Football League. He had one of those Aaron
Rodgers s MVP seasons but with a lot more touchdowns,
but he didn't win it. I think it was what

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is he forty five and four something crazy like that,
Like he was silly known as silly numbers, and they
didn't give it to him. So I just color me.
I hate the people they have voting for it because
I don't think they're voting based objectively. You know, it's
too much emotions, too much subjectivity, getting involved, too many feelings. Oh,

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Lamar won so many, it's josh is Stern, Like, I
don't care about that. Who had the better season? Who's
more valuable? You're gonna say you punish Lamar Jackson for
having Derrick Henry, but he threw for forty one touchdowns,
there's only four interceptions, Like, how how do you punish
him for that? That's valuable? That those numbers are valued,

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And so I think it's Joe Burrow. But I think
the same issue that he had last year is the
issue who'll have this year is his team isn't good
enough to give him what he needs. His team isn't
gonna be good enough. Last year he threw for almost
five thousand yards, forty three touchdowns, nine interceptions, one hundred

(01:49:44):
and eight rating, but his team, his defense was too
terrible and he didn't They didn't win every shootout that
they were involved in. So ah, we're not gonna give
it to I would love something, would love to say
Bron Perdy would do it, But.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
What about Sam Donald?

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Come on, man, Sam Donald could definitely I mean, if
they if they win thirteen games. He definitely did in
a mix. But again, he wasn't MVP candidate last year,
and he had a phenomenal year and took his team
to fourteen and three. So I'm saying, if they're not
putting him in the MVP race when they were fourteen

(01:50:23):
and three, I don't. I don't think you're gonna give
it to Anthem on now him being in Seattle. Give
me Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (01:50:30):
I like that one as well.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
And finally, before we wrap, we gotta know who starts
off Week one preseason addition, going into Week one, Richard
Sherman's Top five power Ranks.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
Top five power Ranks National Football League we're gonna go
Philadelphia Eagles won, Baltimore two, Bill's three, Kansas City four
or Detroit five.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
Okay, I respect it, well, Richard. That concludes it. Man,
this is our regular season preview. It's been a long one,
but a good one, and I'll let you sign us off.

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
My friend.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Well, I appreciate you guys. Sorry it's been so long,
but it's the season preview. We have to get every
division in here. We appreciate you joining us. You could
be anywhere in the world, but you're here with us,
and do not forget to hit that sub button. If
you're new, stay tuned all season for updates, reaction videos,
and of course after game content with me and my

(01:51:38):
guy Mitchell. Also big play Slave, See you next time.

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