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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
You know you don't do the Bowl championships. That should
always be the expectation. All right, man, you go ahead.
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. An incredible week,
some upsets, a team taking their first loss to the season. Mitchell,
Your Detroit Lions found a way though, in a big way.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
They did, Richard, And I was rocking that han no
Lulu Blue all day. You already know it. Our friends
over at Brightling, I was rocking it. You already know start.
I know you have it on. We got to start
out in the NFC West, the Sherman moule two points
whatever it has been several times now in San Francisco.
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Seattle goes on the road and gets what is by
Vegas standards and up set big win in the division.
They climb back. What are your thoughts because this game
not a whole lot of people thought this was going
this way. San Francisco is finally healthy ish and they lose.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Richard. Your thoughts on this game, Well, it was a
chaotic week in Seattle. You know their center Connor Williams
retiring in the middle of the bye week. You know
they cut their leading tackler, so you know it seemed chaotic,
but they this defense responded in a big way, holding
San Francisco forty nine ers to twenty points in the game,
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really keeping Christian McCaffrey in check for a majority of
this game. Nineteen carries seventy nine yards, four catch for
twenty seven. I mean, felt felt like a solid game
from him. You know, still almost one hundred yards total offense,
but just could not get in the end zone again,
just the way their season is gone. When they need
a touchdown, they get field goals. And that's the frustrating
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part for this offense, because they got a turnover, they
got a sut and change opportunity where it looked like, hey,
the momentum is going in San Francisco forty nine ers favor,
looks like they were going to be able to make
a big play, score touchdown, kind of start to pull
away in that moment, and the Seattle Seahawks got the stop,
held him to a field goal. Then you look up,
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Nicholas john Bosa gets hurt and the Seattle Seahawks take
full advantage of it, go down the field, score touchdowns.
Both both touchdowns were scored after nick Bosa was down
with an injury, Jackson Smith and Jigba ten catches for
one hundred and ten yards. He continues his excellent play
throughout this these last few weeks he's been on. I mean,
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he's been playing really impressive football. Geno Smith twenty five
of thirty two for two hundred and twenty one yards,
had the interception, but really really played well when they
needed it, used his legs when he had to have it,
especially on the game winning touchdown. And everybody, you know,
even folks in Seattle, you know, haven't been as high
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on Gino this year, even though I think he's still
playing really good football. He's just been beating up you know,
he got sacked four times in this game. And with
all that said, they're five and five, win off the
bye week against a very tough opponent, got another divisional
opponent coming up next week, and you kind of control
your own destiny from this point. You know. With this
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win against the San Francisco forty nine ers, they have
the tiebreakers against a lot of these teams. The Seattle
Seahawks do, and the San Francisco forty nine ers are
one and three within a division. So it's just a
really rough season, you know, because if you're looking at
tie breakers and how tight this race is, when you
get to one and three in the division, you're not
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going to have the tiebreaker over a lot of these teams.
So hopefully you get the tie with the Rams, and
you get the tie with the Arizona Cardinals, but you
just you know, you're putting yourself in a tough position.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
They're going to have an opportunity to separate themselves from
the pack next week against Arizona Cardinals. Richard, But this
San Francisco forty nine ers team is clinging on for
dear life. And while they're finally healthy, it's not the
playmakers that you would expect. It's Juwan Jennings that they're
leaning on for ten catches, ninety one yards and a touchdown.
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Like what's going on with this offense because while they
seem to be getting healthy, they're not leaning on Deebo.
They're not leaning on CMC. I know he's roughly back
now and they're gonna lean on a more down the stretch.
But the time is now for the San Francisco forty
nine ers team. They've got to start winning now, and
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they're going to go on the road against the Packers
who've been playing impressive ball all season. I mean, once
is it going to start. The pressure is building up
on this team. They've got to win now, Richard.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, they got to figure it out and they got
to start executing. You know, one hundred and fifty nine yards,
one touchdown and one interception from Brock party one twenty eight.
It's just not good enough in a game like this
where you had to have more. Juwan Jennings played another
excellent game. He was a standout in this game. Made
a ton of big plays, huge third down conversions every
single time they needed at third and eleven where it
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looked like he dragged half of the DB's in Seattle
to the first down marker, and you need more of that.
Got a touchdown on that drive, and you just need
more consistent play. And it just doesn't seem like the
plays are there as they have been in the past.
In the red zone execution, I mean it's been a
storyline the entire season. They were the number one red
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zone offense last year. They cannot find a way their
bottom of the pack this year in terms of getting
the ball in the end zone, not just driving down
into the red zone and kicking field goals there. I mean,
I guess they're best in the league at that right now.
But you can't have that if you want to be
a championship football team, and that's the team that everybody expects.
That the faithful expected from them. I expected it from them,
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the amount of talent this team had. You expected them
to go out and play better football and execute at
a higher level than they have been and that you know,
I'm sure Kyle is gonna change something up, something up,
and switch something up to spice it up, because right
now it's just looks stagnant offensively and that the holes
aren't there in the run game. You're not seeing the
big yack in the past game. You're not seeing a
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big time explosive plays that they're known for and they've
been known for throughout Kyle's tenure in San Francisco. But
the Seattle Seahawks did a really good job in this
game of just sticking around, hanging around, making plays when
they were there. Devin Witherspoon tips the ball up to
Jonathan Hankins for his first career interception. Huge playing the
ball game while the San Francisco forty nine ers were
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in their own territory steal and that ended up contributing
to points for the Seattle Seahawks. And that's those are
the things, tight window throws that brock Perty's trying to
make and trying to force in there that led help
lead to this defeat at the hands of the Seattle Seahawks.
But this is a really really positive game. Derek Hall
and Draymond Jones continued their strong seasons, sack eats, DK
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metcalf mates and big plays when they had to have him.
Had seven catches for seventy yards. Your boy, your boy
K nine, had fourteen carries fifty four yards, got an
end zone. And you just look at this team and
you're doing what you need to do to win. And
that's really all you need to do in this league.
You know, you win ugly, you win pretty. But this
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is a good confidence booster. I thought their defense, the
Seattle Seahawks defense played really really well on this game.
They got the stops, They had tight coverage. Tarik Wooland
was tighten coverage. Witherspoon was tightan coverage all day, disruptive
from from the d line, disruption Byron Murphy. Ernest Jones
looked really good still kind of trying to find his
way within this defense. But the young guy Knight. They
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looked good in their first game since all the change.
You know, you expected them to come out and execute
at a high level off the bye week, fresh legs,
et cetera, et cetera. I to see what they do
next week against the Arizona Cardinals, who have been red hot,
playing really good football. Kyler Murray, that defense, Buddha Baker
and those boys have been playing really good. So I'm
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looking forward to seeing if the Seattle Seahawks can can
really come back into Loomenfield and protect home field and
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Speaker 1 (08:34):
Another team that's been red hot at Kansas City Chiefs.
They go on the road against the Buffalo Bills. This
was much while for football in Buffalo, and it was
the Buffalo Bills controlled this game early and often, and
you got to look at it from Josh Allen's standpoint,
this is a team that could never get over that hump,
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and that was the Kansas City Chiefs, and they controlled
this game. I don't want to say that they dominated
it because they didn't, but they will always seem to
be in control. Richard, what were your thoughts on this game,
because to me, it looked like Buffalo was the batter
team early often and throughout.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well it's just like Josh Allen said earlier in the week,
he said, I mean, they've been able to beat the
Kansas City Chiefs in the regular season, they just cannot
beat him in the playoffs. So this isn't as surprising,
you know, of a win as anybody is going to say.
You know, it's the Kansas City Chiefs have been playing
on borrowed time for a number of weeks. You know,
could have lost last week, could have lost the week
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before that, and this week it looked like again, if
they get a stop somewhere, then you get Patrick Mahomes
the ball back. But instead Josh Allen breaks a twenty
six yard touchdown run late in that game to put
the dagger to close this game up, to kill the
hope of the Kansas City Chiefs, because even then, if
they kick a field goal, and at the end of
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that game and Patch Mahoons gets the ball back, I
think everybody in the stands, everybody watching that game thinks
he's gonna win that game again. So this didn't feel
like a dominant win, but the Buffalo Bills did look
like the better team in this game. Patch mahomes through
an early interception and just never looked right throughout this game.
He completed passes to eleven different receivers. Again, sometimes you're
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trying to figure out which guys are working for you,
who's going to be your go to guy. He ended
up getting four catches for sixty one yards and a
big time touchdown from Xavier Worthy. Kareem Hump continues to
carry the load in the running game, but they've looked
like this the entire season. The difference is the thirty
points that Buffalo was able to put up on this
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Kansas City defense. Because this Kansas City defense has been elite,
one of the best defenses in football throughout this season
and previous seasons. SPACs has been calling an incredible game.
They've been covering well, they've been rushing a passer well.
But Josh Allen had his way twenty seven of forty
two hundred and sixty two yards one touchdown in the interception.
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He rushed the ball twelve times for fifty five yards
in that huge touchdown that put the d nail in
the coffin at the end of the game. I'm sure
this is good for this young team's confidence because a
lot of these young players weren't in the same roles
that they are in now. Curtis Samuel hasn't been a
part of this rivalry. Taylor Rapp had a huge interception
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in this game, and I don't think he was as
huge of a part of this rivalry as he was
in this game. And obviously Khalil Shakur Kir was a
part of it, but he wasn't the go to guy
that he is now. So I'm interested to see what
this does for them going into the playoffs if they
have to face the Kansas City Chiefs again, that's the thing.
Does this give them confidence going into that week. I
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know they're feeling really, really good going into this bye week.
The Kansasity Chiefs probably feel slightly disappointed. I'm sure Andy
Reid feels good, because again, you don't want to have
an undefeated season. You want to have coachable moments. You
want to be able to tell your team, hey, we
got to do better than this, we got to play
better than this, we got to correct the things, and
that this gives him opportunity to do that, to coach
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his team, to tell that defense, hey, you're you're not
world beaters yet. You know, we've won two back to
back in I mean, we've won back to back Super
Bowls and we've played started off nine to zero. But
you see this team hit us in the mouth. So
we do have things that we can correct. Things we
can't fix, things we can get better at. And I'm
I'm I get to go watch this team in a
couple of weeks when they played the Raiders in Kansas
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City on Black Friday. So I'm excited to go out
there and see what they do against the Carolina Panthers
and what they do against the Raiders when we come
to town.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
But the Kansas City Chiefs the last several games, they
haven't looked all that impressive. You know. They beat the
Las Vegas Raiders by seven points, they win against the
Buccaneers in overtime, you know, and then they go and
squeak one off with the block field goal. Against the
Denver Broncos and then you see them go on the
road and lose. Uh, let's my two scores against the
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Buffalo Bills. I mean they've been skating by all season
and finally they get caught. I mean, are the Kansas
City Chiefs that good as their nine to one record reflects?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, Menchell, I mean they're back to back Super Bowl champions.
So you can say what you want about them skating
by games. They skated through most of the last season,
and then when it came to the playoffs, they dominated, dominated, dominated,
and you could say they snuck by those games. They
didn't blow the Baltimore Ravens out in AFC Championship game.
They didn't blow the San Francisco for nine Ers get out.
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In the Super Bowl. They won an ot walk off touchdown,
but they won and they got to hold the trophy
at the end. So are they the team? Are they
are as good as their record says because they are
back to back Super Bowl champions Because when you aren't,
when you don't have the championship pedigrade, people can say, oh,
we wonder how they're going to be in the playoffs.
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We know how this team is going to be in
the playoffs. There are a lot of guys still on
this team, still on this roster with two Super Bowl
rings on in very prominent position, and so this team
will be fine, especially with the best quarterback in football.
I don't think you can count this team out or
say they're not as good as their record, especially with
the way their defense. Chris Jones is still going. Nick
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Bolton is playing really good football justin Reid, you know,
friend of the program. We got so many people that
are playing really good football as a part of that
team that I'm not really ready to say they're not
who we thought they were. That would be that'd be
silly to say, you know, this is a loss that
they probably needed. I'm sure their coaching staff is thankful.
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I don't think anybody wants an undefeated season going into
playoffs because you just feel like your first loss is
going to be at the worst possible time.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I don't want to play spoiler, he Richard, I don't.
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Speaker 1 (17:22):
But let's take it to the number one team in
Richard Sherman's Power Ranks, Lions. The heinlo Lulu Blue. I'm
playing some forecasting here, Richard then future number one team
of Richard Sheran Power Ranks. The Detroit Lions took on
the Jacksonville Jaguars fifty two to six, and I'm pretty
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sure that was after the third quarter. They're laying the
stone cold SmackDown on the Jacksonville Jaguars. What didn't the
Detroit Lions show you today that? I mean, this could
this win could not be more impressive. Jacksonville scored first,
mind you, they got out three to nothing, and the
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Detroit Lions just said, ah, that's good enough. We'll take
it from here. Your thoughts on my hometown Detroit Lions,
I would love to hear it.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Well, their defense looked really good, you know, obviously Mac
Jones and this Jacksonville Jaguars offense haven't shown much all season.
They didn't show much when they had the other quarterback
at the helm. They didn't show much with Mack Jones.
But still this defense, you know, beating bad teams is
still an art. Like there are teams that played to
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the level of their opponent. That's not what the Detroit
Lions are. They showed them, Hey, there's a huge gap
between what y'all are and what we are. And they
showed it over and over and over, executing every single
drive their first sevens drives down the field, they scored
touchdowns and again, back to the conversation with San Francisco
forty nine, that's the difference between elite contenders is that
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they score when they get into the red zone. When
they get into the red zone, you know, it's pretty
much a done deal your faatest they're scoring. And the
Lions coming off that very as Jamiir Gibbs said, weird
game where they had all the interceptions and everything working
against them, Murphy's law, everything that could go wrong went
wrong and they were still able to win that game.
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I think it gives the team a bit of a shield,
you know, a bit of an invincibility complex because you say, hey,
even on our worst day, we can still win. So
they're not having their worst day in this game. Jared
Golf twenty four to twenty nine, four hundred and twelve yards,
passing four touchdowns in a perfect passer rating would almost
get him back into that MVP conversation if he didn't
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throw five picks the last time Mitchell, so he's nowhere
near the conversation at this point. But great game from
aman Ras Saint Brown. A huge game from Jamison Williams,
probably his best game as a pro. Four catches, one
hundred and twenty four yards and a touchdown. Cool to
see him get back involved that. That incredible safety duo
played their butt off. Brian Branch had a really really
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crucial hit in the game, Kirby Joseph had the interception.
So you just saw really good performances from all over
the place. Jamier Gibbs and David Montgomery both got a
touchdown in the first quarter. One got one yard touchdown
than Jamier Gibbs. That I'm faster than everybody and I'm
gonna get a touchdown too, and so that was really cool.
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He also had the reception Jamiir Gibbs had the reception
for fifty four yards where he just looked so fast
and I thought he was scoring a touchdown on that one.
But they look great. They look like a really good team.
And this is what they've looked like. They look like
the team that are supposed to look like when you
talk about a contender, and they're the best team in
the NFC right down. And I think that's clear. With
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Tony Gonzalez on on the broadcast was saying that it
may be somebody else as the best team in NFC,
the Philadelphia Eagles, and I said, not so fast. My
friendly courso works both ways, and he said, not so
fast when you're talking about the other teams as well,
because they are not as complete as the Detroit Lions
are right now. And getting Zadarius Smith is only going
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to help him. He kind of got banged up a
little bit in this game. I'm pretty sure he's all right,
but as he continues to get out there and get rolling,
I think he's going to be really impactful.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well, you gotta love it, Richard. We've seen it. I
mean you saw it, guys. If you have not tuned
into the Jumior Gibbs episode with Richard earlier this week.
This podcast is turned into a Detroit Lions fan base podcast.
I love to see the Hano Lulu Blue tuning in
every week. Let's take it to arguably the game of
the day, the Pittsburgh Steelers against the Baltimore Ravens. Pittsburgh
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turns out a huge win divisional foe the Vegas had.
This game is a three point game in Baltimore's favor.
A lot of people are saying, hey, Baltimore's got this,
no question about it. But Richard, you pointed, week after
week after week, the division rivalry's saying, these division games
are different. Baltimore is showing us something here. I mean,
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this team, they're eight and two, when they're looking like it,
they win against the Baltimore Ravens Pittsburgh. Are they the
team right now in the AFC North because they certainly.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Look like it. Well, I mean, they definitely do. And
obviously you got to give them credit because they just
beat the team that was challenging them for that supremacy
and the team that won the AFC North last year
and the Baltimore Ravens. But the Baltimore Ravens are owing
to four in the last four matchups against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
And that's with whoever it is at quarterback. And it's
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just like Lamar Jackson's struggles against Tomlin coach teams. It
doesn't matter if Kenny Pickett's at quarterback, if Mitchell Trabitsky's
a quarterback, They're finding a way to beat the Baltimore Ravens.
And this is with the super tandem of Lamar Jackson
and Derrick Henry. But again, Todd Monkin is falling victim
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to the thing that Baltimore Ravens coordinators do every single
time things get tight in a ball game, and a
big time ball game, they stop running the football. And
everybody knows the statistics of their wins versus their losses.
Every time they lose, it's because Derek Henry has fifteen
carries or less. It's I think he averaged averages fourteen
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carries in their losses and like twenty carries in their wins.
So it keep feeding the ball. But whenever they get
down in these games and it wasn't a huge lead,
they missed multiple field goals uncharacteristically. You know, Justin Tucker,
the All Pro Future Hall of Famer just could not
get the ball through the uprights early in this game.
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If he makes those field goals, they likely win this game.
But he didn't, and the Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Tomlin knows
how to win in an ugly ball game. He knows
when things aren't going great, Hey, that defense is gonna
step up. And the Pittsburgh Steelers defense stepped up in
a big way. You just saw all their big time
guys stepping up. TJ. Watt had a sack. Peyton Wilson
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had a really incredible one hand like diving, ripping away
interception late in the ball game that really turned the
tide to the Pittsburgh Steelers and really kind of closed
out this game. Cam Hayward had a huge deflection in
this game late in the game that they had to have.
Naji Harris eighteen carres for sixty three yards. Russell Wilson
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didn't have the biggest game, you know, he struggled early on.
I think he had eighty eight yards, you know, somewhere
middle of the third quarter. But he turned it on
late twenty three to thirty six, two hundred and five yards.
Very costly interception in the end zone late in the game,
but played well enough, maybe big enough plays converted third
downs to help them win this game, to help them
run that clock, control the ball game, and that's what
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they needed. That's what Tom the need to protect the ball,
run the clock. And I think his tight end probably
could have done helped him out a little bit. And
bad at that pass down the end zone. Didn't really
seem like he gave a lot of effort. But George
Pickens with another good game. I think he's really happy
to have Russell Wilson in the fold. Eight catches for
eighty nine yards. But it's concerned and it has to
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be scary for Baltimore Ravens fans because it just seems
like another more of the same, Like, Okay, we have
an MVP candidate likely to win MVP. I mean touchdown
interception mister, But I don't think he had the same
regression that Jared Golf said. I don't know if one
touchdown one interception is five interceptions in a game. Those
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aren't created equal, but it's definitely not the huge four
or five touchdown games he had been having. Derrick Henry
also got a touchdown fumbled for the first time in
five hundred and thirty eight touches. Not the kind of
game he's used to having. Obviously, you can't go away
from Derrick Henry just because he fumbles the football. But
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I don't know what you do. This has to be
a lesson, and you would have thought they learned this
lesson after losing the playoffs the same way every year,
and everybody's saying the same thing, including their own staff, saying, Hey,
we went away from running the football. We'll never do that,
We'll never make that a mistake again. I don't know
why we did that. We went away from running the football.
I don't know why we did that. We went away
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from winning the football. I don't know why we did that.
Stop doing it. Run the football. Run it run it,
run it run the football, Chris Brown. When you see
it running running, yeah, running like run the football. And
do I need to put the hat on because run them.
I'm gonna have to. Because when they run the football,
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they win football games. When they don't run a football game,
when they don't run the football, they lose. And it's
been true in the playoffs, it's been true all of
this year. When they lost to the Raiders, they didn't
run the football well. The Loft to Cleveland they didn't
run the football well. Kansas City they didn't run the
football well. The Pittsburgh they didn't run the football well.
It's a common theme. It's not hard to see. You
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don't need analytics or research to really dive deep and
see it. You got one of the best running backs
in National Football League. Turn around and hand them the
ball sometimes at least twenty times a game. And sure
you can have Lamar throw at thirty if that's what
you want to do, but do not go away from
the run game. And that's what they did. Give the
Pittsburgh Steelers a lot of credit there. They're looking like
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a top AFC contender. And if the Kansas City Chiefs
slip up again, you might look at him as a
one seed going into these playoffs. And I don't know
if Kansas City really wants to go down that road,
because they'd be seeing the Buffalo Bills a lot earlier
than they want to.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
There's no question about it. This Steelers defense is nasty.
I mean this offense. I mean this is the second
time this season they've not scored a touchdown and won
a game. I mean, the rest of the NFL is
two to eighteen without scoring a touchdown in a game,
and the Pittsburgh Steelers have managed to win two games
without scoring touchdowns. Kudos to the Steelers, Yeah, I mean kudos.
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That's huge. And Richard, you know all too well that
carries a team and Russell I don't want to speak
poorly about him by any meets because he seemed to
turn this offense around in Pittsburgh, but he's the beneficiary
of another great defense here. Let's see how far he
can take this Steelers team, because it seems to me
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like he's got the weapons. He's got n Agie Harris,
I mean George Pickens. There is probably no bigger fan.
I mean, George Pickens is proving himself to be one
of the top receivers in this league ever since Russell
Wilson's taken over those reigns. So let's see what happens
here in Pittsburgh. They've got an opportunity. You're going to
see him first hand on Thursday Night Football, brought to
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walk away either impressed or in questions because this balt
This Pittsburgh Steelers team is eight and two. It doesn't
matter how you debate it. They are eight and two
and they proved it at home against one of the
best teams in the league in the Baltimore Ravens. Let's
see where they go from here. In terms of the
Baltimore Ravens, it's a hardball ball on Monday night football.
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They're gonna take on the La Charters next. We'll see
how they recover from this loss.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Because again, these division games are weird. So even when
Pittsburgh's eight and two, when you feel really good about
this huge win against Baltimore, sometimes they're that's setting you
up for a letdown in another very tough division game
against the Cleveland Browns. And Jamis just threw for almost
four hundred yards against the Saints. Like, it's not that
they can't do it. It's not that they can't push
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the ball down the field and they can't execute. So
I hope we don't they don't have a case of
overlooking the Cleveland Browns. And that's what I'm gonna say
on air Thursday night is just you know, this is
a really talented defense, a really good football team. But
if their offense struggles like they did because Cleveland's defense
is very capable. Miles Garrett is just as capable of
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wrecking a game as anybody in this football league. And
so if you if they get out there and start
lollygagging and you let Jamis get hot, this can this
can get scary for Pittsburgh and Cleveland. So I I
know they deserve to feel good about this game and
feel good about their season eight and two. I'm sure
their fans could not have predicted them going eight and
two this season after seasons that they've had. But they
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look like a really complete team and I can't wait
to see what they looked like Thursday, short week.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
The Chicago Bears in desperate need of a win, going
under the five hundred mark. Last week, they're hosting the
Green Bay Packers at home. They make it super competitive
and lose by a blocked field goal. At the buzzer,
we saw what appeared to be a lot better game
from Caleb Williams. He looked a lot more comfortable in
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the pocket. When the bocket broke down, he was scrambling,
he was picking up yards. He looked more like a
veteran out there than it did a rookie. And I
think Chicago needed to see that, but nonetheless they come
away with the loss. Richard, how does this happen for Chicago?
How do they turn the tides here? Because they had
this game and they lost it.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
They just don't know how to finish. And you do
have to give kat Williams a lot of credit. He
looked really good. The offensive line looked better. At the
entire offense looked better. DeAndre Swift had a really cool
touchdown run where he made a corner miss in the
open field, got loose, got busy. Caleb Williams was making
plays with his legs, but he wasn't depending on it,
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and you saw him rush the ball. You saw him
go out there and use his legs to really put
the defense in jeopardy and put the defense on its
heels and really make them adjust, make them have to
account for his legs in a way that he hadn't
really been doing throughout the season as much as he could.
And I think that opened up some plays for him.
He was getting the ball out quick on time, even
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when he's looking left. Sometimes he glanced back right and
hit the check down for a lot of yards because
the defense is moving with him. And I thought I
thought he looked really solid, coming off a really tough game,
some tough conversations in that locker room. Teammates really frustrated
with his perform Larrence is in the past games. So
I thought this was really a step forward for this team.
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It just sucks that they weren't able to finish because
in a game like that, that's how you take the
next step. You kick that field goal that you win it.
And you're talking about a team that may sneak into
the playoffs, the team that's feeling confident that they can
beat anyone, and that defense is playing like a defense
that can play with anyone. But they didn't. The phield
goal got blocked. Carl Brooks blocked the game winning phild
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Gold got his fingertip on it, and that's all you
need at that distance to be able to get it.
Jordan Love though, he's a risk taker, and he's a
guy that's reckless with the football, and he's thrown interception
in eight straight games, eleven on the season and eleven
and I don't even thinks he hasn't played every game.
He's missed two games in this season. So that's something
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that I'm concerned about. The Green Bay Packers. This is
a good win for them. They are seven and three,
keeping up with your Detroit Lions in the division race.
Minnesota Vikings are also up there at I think they're
eight and two now. So this NFC North is really
starting to heat up, and look at it look like
one of the best division divisions, if not the best
division in football. But if you're a Green Bay Packers fan,
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you have to be concerned about these interceptions because that
is what ended your season last year at the hands
of the San Francisco forty nine ers. Two Jordan Love
interceptions and in the clutch is what ended your season.
So he has as many interceptions now as he did
through the entire season last year, and he has to
get that fixed. These aren't just like tipped interceptions at
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the line of scrimmage, or are lucky plays by guys
or hey, it bounced off the receiver's hands and got
an interception. These are these are balls he's thrown to
defenders and he has to get that fixed. I like
how they leaned on Josh Jacobs throughout the game eighteen
carries for seventy six yards, even got involved in the
past game four carries took some short passes and made
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them big gains. I think that's gonna be positive for him.
Christian Watson had his best game four catches for one
hundred and fifty yards. Rashawn Gary made some plays on defense.
Our guy Xavier mckinne did not was not able to
get Caleb Williams this time, even though he's gotten just
about everybody else. But I thought this is what was
a rare kind of win win for both teams. It's
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good for I'm sure Chicago feels a lot better about
theirselves and about their team than they did coming into
this game. And I'm sure Green Bay is thankful to
be able to get out of this game where they
didn't play as well as they possibly can. With the win,
Green Bay has a tough game against San Francisco forty
nine ers, who are reeling right now after that lost
to Seattle. In Green Bay. The Bears have a tough
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game against the Minnesota Vikings who are rolling eight and two,
and they're gonna put a lot of pressure on Caleb Williams,
so better keep getting up all that fast.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
They finally scored a touchdown, I mean, then went twenty
six strives With that one, Richard, and they're on a
four game losing streak. I know, you could say you
can take away, you know, some feel goods after losing
this game close, but it's a four game losing streak.
And it all started with that Hail Mary against the
Washington Commanders when Tyreek Stevenson was celebrating over there doing
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whatever he was doing with the crowd. I mean, how
long does a loss like that carry over? Because this
Bears team was four and two and now they're four
and six and we're talking about feel good losses.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, I mean, but they weren't expected to be anything
like that, Mitchell. This year. They weren't. You're not drafting
the quarterback that high and you know, I mean their
draft pick was what nine or ten, But you're not
drafting top ten and making the playoffs. Many times, there
are teams that have done it. But they had a
really good defense, and they have a really good defense.
But there's still ways to go offensively, especially offensive line
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and the quarterback. And you've got a young quarterback that
has to develop. I think they're starting to figure out
the rhythm that he needs to be in where they
have to run the ball with DeAndre swift. They have
to lean on a run game and then then let
Caleb Williams go. You can't just sit there and drop
back with Caleb Williams and have the run game as
a second as an afterthought. That can't be the way
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you approach games. And I think at least they're figuring
that rhythm out. I think they're showing signs of life.
Maybe they can get hot and win some games that
they won't be favored in down the stretch and sneak
into the playoffs. But they really needed this one for
their confidence going forward. But yeah, I mean, I guess
it does linger, you know. I mean, there's nothing else
to say about that. They're own four since that game,
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so clearly it's having some carryover effects.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
You want to talk about a disaster season, let's go
to the New York Jets. Hey Aaron Rodgers and this
whole feel good story about him coming back from the
Achilles injury. I don't know where this season is going
to land for them, but it's not looking good. You
already lose a coach and Robert Slok. They've made so
many different moves and nothing seemed to work, and it
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all culminates with another loss against the low lean in
app Colts, who just brought back Anthony richardson where do
we go from here? I mean, who do you cast
the blame on other than Woody Johnson in New York
New York Jets territory.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Richard, Yeah, I mean you got to put a lot
of the blame on Whatdy Johnson, because you've made an
unnecessary decision in the middle of the season. And there
it's been shown statistically, no matter what team you're looking at,
if you take if you fire the head coach min season,
the rest of that season is pretty much wrap. You're
you're not going to the playoffs, you're not having success,
You're not you're not doing anything worthy of mention in
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that season. And I know he tried to cut the
front off his loose to to make all these moves
to make him look better and say, oh, get get
Redick in here, get get get Davonte, do all this
so that it doesn't look bad, so you guys can
win and it can look like I fired Robert Salay
and he was the problem, and I was the answer. Clearly,
Robert Salad wasn't the problem. Aaron isn't playing as well
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as he has in the past. It's probably his worst
season of his football career, probably since the first season
he started. They're not playing well on defense. Ever since
Brick became the head coach, they've been one of the
worst defense. I think they've given up the second most
points since he's become the head coach. And that's just
you know, that's just one of the side effects of
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moving your defensive coordinator to head coach and throwing all
this responsibility on his back, all these extra things to
think about during the game, during the week, all these
extra meetings that he has to be and you're changing
the whole dynamic of the staff five games into the season,
and that's a shock that they just haven't recovered from.
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The players are kind of frustrated. You saw the comments
saw had about you know, bricks tackling presentation, and then
they went out and they missed a lot of tackles
in this game. So it's just a lot of things compiling,
a lot of frustration, I'm sure mounting in that locker room,
mounting with that coaching staff, and disappointment because you know,
they were they're really talented team and they've had a
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talented defense for the entire time this staff has been
employed and they just haven't had the offense. And everybody
thought when Aaron came in he would he would fix
a lot of the problems, and Davante would help fix Aaron,
and he would help fix Garrett Wilson, and just hasn't
culminated the way they would have wanted it to. When
it's disappointing the.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Other side of the football, Anthony Richardson comes back from
his break. I mean, obviously they sidelined him and showed
him what Joe FLACKU could do for the last few weeks,
and he comes back and he looks like a lot
more competent quarterback out there, throwing for two hundred and
seventy two yards a touchdown, getting done on the ground too,
with two rushing touchdowns. How much do you think that
time off, that time to just examine and look and
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study benefited Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I think it benefited that a tremendous amount. Just being
able to sit there and listen and watch and get
hungry and get frustrated and work your craft and be
able to push the reset button on everything and go
out there and just play free. You know, what's the
worst that can happen. They already said he's going to
be named the starter for the the rest of the season,
So now just go out there, let the ball fly,
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be confident, trust your reads. And it looks like he's
a whole different quarterback. I mean, his completions, he's not
overthrown as much as he was at the beginning. He
was completing a lot more passes. Uh, He's not putting
his body in danger as much. Obviously he took a
hit when he ran that first touchdown in but he
looks a lot more in command, a lot more accurate.
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His feet are under him. I think it benefited it.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
You talked about it so much paralysis by over analysis.
I mean, these these younger quarterbacks, and you can speak
to this way better than I can, but it seems
like the more you think about a play, the less
you are instinctive. And to me, it looked like he
was just playing naturally, letting the letting the play come
to him, as opposed to trying to force something. And
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if you see this down the stretch, I mean, this
Indianapolis Colts team is still in the thick of things
when it comes to the playoff race. If they can
get hot.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I mean they play my Detroit Lions next week. I
welcome Anthony Richardson, but we'll see. Let's go to the
Minnesota Vikings. I know they played the Tennessee Titans today,
but this team is now eight and two and Sam
Darnold gets back on track a bit, throwing for two
hundred and forty six yards two touchdowns. Richard, I know
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we talked about the Minnesota Vikings and they're fall off
of the last couple of weeks. Like, how much do
you believe in this team? Because this NFC North Division,
I mean, they're dominating the league right now. The Minnesota
Vikings are eight and two, the Green Bay Packers are
seven and three, the Detroit Lions are nine to one.
We're potentially seeing three teams to the North going into
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this playoffs. How much do you believe in the Minnesota Vikings,
albeit against the Tennessee Titans today.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I mean defense translates. And Andrew van de Ginko have
two sacks in the game, He's got eight on the season.
They're putting a lot of pressure on quarterbacks, They're getting
a lot of turnovers. I think that translates, and they're
gonna make it tough Offensively, they got a very competent
coordinator and Kevin O'Connell well head coach coordinator. He calls
a really great game and every time you talk to
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a defender who's gone against him, they talk about his creativity,
the acumen. He has, the creativity within the game, you know,
making plays look like other plays, but then having pretty
much counters off of it. And so if they can
get to the playoffs and they get the right matchup,
I think they can do damage. And I think every
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team in the NFC North has that story if they
can play well enough. This defense has a lot of
unknown guys making huge plays and just fitting in this
system like hand and glove. So yeah, I think this
is gonna be a dangerous team down the stretch. I'm
looking forward to seeing what they can do during the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
You witness the Eagles, I mean and the Commanders go
at it, and it looked at the Commanders had control
this game. They were playing the game the way they
wanted to, slowing it down, letting the defense control the game,
and then all of a sudden we saw Saquon takeover.
Late in that game. Philadelphia looks like the real deal.
I mean, if they can if they can put a
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full sixty minutes together weaken and week out, they look
like a top contender in the NFC. What are your
thoughts after being in Philly and witnessing their dominance late
in that game against the Commanders.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Well, I just don't, you know, it just don'sn't like
the Commanders are quite there yet with the weapons offensively
and defensively, just don't have the firepower they need to
stop that offense. But I wasn't I didn't walk away
really impressed with the Philadelphia Eagles offense. I walked away
impressed with Takuon Barkley. But at times it just looked discombobulated, disconnected,
and you look at it through through the first half
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and you're like, they have too many superstars, too much
firepower to only have six points in the game. I'm
not sure how this defense is getting stops. They don't
have a ton of great corners. You know, Marshawn Lattimore
wasn't playing in this game, and so you wonder why
AJ Brown wasn't dominating. Devontae Smith wasn't really dominating in
this game. And so that's the stuff that concerns me
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because if you run against a team with some real
dogs in the secondary, some dogs on defense, and some
some offensive firepower, I think they, you know, people pull
away from them in a game like that. So I'm
not quite ready to put them up there with the
with the contenders. I'm not willing to put them up
there with your Detroit Lions or or even the Minnesota Vikings.
And you know, I think the Benefit Soda Vikings are
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more complete team than a Philadelphia Eagles, so I'm not
I'm not quite sure where they fall in the hierarchy yet,
but I need to see them play somebody like that
and not start the way they did in this game.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Well, Richard, this concludes our week eleven recap of the games. Guys,
we really appreciate you tuning in weekend week out. I mean,
make no mistake about it. We see your comments. Will
we welcome all feedback, Richard, please sign us off, my friend.
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