Richard Sherman breaks down a wild Week 4 in the NFL, starting with the San Francisco 49ers’ shocking loss to the Jaguars and the Detroit Lions’ dominant win over the Browns. Sherman and Mitchell react to Brock Purdy’s turnovers, Detroit’s young offensive line, and key secondary injuries. They also hit on Puka Nacua’s explosion for the Rams, Sam Darnold leading the Seahawks, Baker Mayfield vs the Eagles, Jackson Dart’s Giants debut, the Ravens’ struggles, Chiefs’ statement win, Steelers’ bounce back, international games, Ashton Jeanty’s breakout, Josh Allen and the Bills, and Cam Ward’s brutally honest quote about the Titans.
00:05 – 49ers collapse vs Jaguars, Brock Purdy’s turnovers
01:18 – Lions roll Browns, Amon-Ra St. Brown & Gibbs shine
04:38 – Niners’ offensive woes: drops & turnovers
10:00 – Puka Nacua dominates, Rams beat Colts
13:48 – Previewing 49ers vs Rams TNF showdown
14:32 – Sam Darnold’s rise with Seahawks
16:02 – Eagles beat Bucs, but AJ Brown still quiet
18:29 – Baker Mayfield keeps Bucs competitive
21:21 – Giants rookie QB Jackson Dart’s debut win
28:46 – Should the Giants trade Russ?
31:01 – Chiefs vs Ravens reaction
32:54 – Baltimore’s offensive struggles with Lamar & Henry
35:05 – Chiefs’ statement win & playoff outlook
38:18 – Steelers beat Vikings in Ireland, Rodgers leads
42:14 – Vikings QB situation: Carson Wentz vs J.J. McCarthy
47:07 – Bills move to 4-0, Josh Allen MVP form
48:56 – Cam Ward calls Titans “ass” & Sherman reacts
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to Richard Truman Podcast. It was another incredible week,
but unfortunately the San Francisco forty nine Ers lose twenty
six to twenty one to the Jacksonville Jaguars. One of
the worst games I've seen him play in a very
long time, just on I mean, I can't say both
sides of the ball, because I felt like the defense
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in the second half really picked it up and started
to figure it out. But offensively, that was that was
bad football. I mean not in terms of moving the ball.
They threw for three hundred yards. They ran for about
eighty three, which is lower than Kyle would won, I'm sure,
but it just was a sloppy game, an uninspired game.
They gave up a touchdown on special teams on a
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punt return and nobody was even close. It didn't it
look like a practice rep multiple interceptions by brock Party
and then a fumble by Eric Armstead of all people.
At the end of the game. It was disastrous. But
I know your I know you feeling good, Mitchell. It
was tough sleding there early against the Cleveland Browns. It
still is one of the top defenses in the National
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Football League, and they have a lot of guys that
can do it. But for Detroit, Lions slowly but surely
got the engine turning and pulled it off.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Tell me how you feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh, they're starting to look like a juggernaut, Richard. I'm
certainly going into Sunday a lot more at ease with
these last three weeks. And listen the Cleveland Browns there.
You know they're the one in three Cleveland Browns. But
reality is, they just beat one of the best teams
in the league in the Green Bay Packers last week.
So coming into this week, you know the Lions are
on high alert. Cleveland Trotzen statistically the number one defense
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in the league, and Detroit took care of business thirty
four to ten, and we saw it all over the field.
I mean, i'mon ras Saint Brown two touchdowns, you know,
Gibbs ninety one rushing yards, and it's just right now.
It's a combination of a couple of things. For one,
this defense is looking dynamic, looking like one of the
best defenses in the league, which I myself might have
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called at the beginning of the year. But the more
surprising thing is this offensive line.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Richard.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
They're replacing two key components right in the middle, and
Frank Reganow and Kevin Zeitdler and they insert a rookie
right from Georgia. Frank, I'm sorry, Tate Ratledice offensive guard
is going right next door to Christian Mahogany. Richard, these
two guys are turning into absolute studs right in front
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of our eyes, and it's giving the Lions that extra
cushion with their salary cap. If you think about it,
between those two players, they're bolt on rookie deals right
there in tier of Their offensive line is probably making
about twelve million dollars collectively. That is a huge, huge
opportunity for the Lions to continue to build this roster.
But to give up zero sacks for the second week
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in a row with this young offensive line, Detroit's got
to feel very very good about what's ahead the rest
of this season. You know, Richard, I want to talk
a little bit about the secondary though, because I know
you love you some terry On Arnold, I know you
love you some DJ Reid. You know, reality is, we
saw one of the guys in terry On have a
reduced role this week, and he gets another penalty, and
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we see Dj Reed go out with looks what looks
like a meaningful hamstring injury. Let's start with Terry on Richard.
He struggled of recent he has not been able to
stay off well. If the penalty's off of his back
and we see another one today, you know, what is
your advice for a young player like him who's going
through the motions but has the talent.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
H You just got to stop pressing, you know, just
do your job. Trust your technique. You know, I'm sure
that's exactly what the coaches are telling them. You got
to trust your technique. You know, you feel like you're pressing.
You want to cover so well, you want to do
things so well. Sometimes it's less is more, and that's
where you got to get to his less is more.
But I got to get back to the to the
San Francisco forty nine ers and complete that little recap
because that was awful and I want the pople to
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understand that. And we'll finish it off your Detroit Lions.
But brock perty is back. I think they they if
if mac Jones wasn't hurt as badly as he was,
I think he starts this game. You could see the
rust obviously, Brock completed some really good passes, but you
could see the rust offensive line again. He was under
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the rest. The pockets were collapsed in but he had
adequate time. There weren't very many holes for Christian McCaffrey
to work his way through. Way, way, way too many
drops from why I mean, I can't I can't just
say to why receivers because there was everybody wide, receivers,
the running backs, the tighty ends. Everybody had had a
hand in dropping passes in this game. And and still
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they had a chance to win because they're a really
good team in Jacksonville isn't a great team.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But to turn the ball over what it ended up
being three three times, it might have been four or
it was four for four turnovers. To turn the ball
over four times in any game, it's unacceptable. That's an
unacceptable thing to do.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And I'm sure Kyle Shanahan is gonna have his foot
deep in a lot of people's rear ends because that's
not forty nine ers football. And those drops, those drops
are just those. There weren't all difficult passes, you know,
some of them were high. I think the one Christian
that ended up getting picked by by Lloyd was high.
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But there was something that was that were right in
the gut.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I thought.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I thought the one KB dropped was right in his
hands and a play that I've seen him make a
lot of times. I thought Christian dropped the easy one.
I thought there was It just seemed like Murphy's law.
Everything that could go wrong went wrong. And defensively, they
start the game off given given Travis Etn a forty
eight yard touchdown almost untouched down the sideline. That was,
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Oh my god, that was disappointing. And then to let
them drive thirteen or fourteen plays whatever it was, all
the way down the field after giving up a third
and long to Travis Hunter a twenty eight yard game
when they were backed up. If you get that stop,
it's an entirely different game. And it looked like they
had a chance to get the ball out, but steal
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and unacceptable play by that defense. But after that, the
defense only gave up three points. I want to say
they gave up two touchdowns early. They gave up three
points in the second half, and then there were other
things that happened. The special teams gave up on return
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as we said, and again the offense had a chance
to win the game with three minutes to go, driving
down the field, a good pass to Christian McCaffrey, and
then you can't have that fumble. You cannot have that play.
You cannot you have to protect the football. And again,
it just seemed like everybody was going through the motions
this game. I don't know why, I don't. I love
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this team, I love watching them, but that just felt
like everybody's going through the motions, like, hey, we're three
and zero, you know, maybe maybe looking forward a little
bit to the Rams game. I'm not sure, but I'm
hoping that. You know, again, it's the NFC West is
really tight right now. Everybody's three and one at the top.
The Rams pull out a tough win against the Indianapolis Colts,
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the Seattle Seahawks pull off a win against the Arizona Cardinals,
and the San Francisco forty nine Ers lose a game
that they probably should have won and could have easily
won a team that they were better than and they
did not win.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So this is gonna be a tough division.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Three to one at the top, three teams tied, and
you got a tough Rams team who's battle tested, who
played a great game at home last week and who
were playing at home again on Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You gotta get you gotta pick it up, lick your
wounds and figure it out.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's a short week, and guys got to come back
locked and they got to run the ball better. They
got to move people. Now, you got to give the
Jacksonville Jaguars credit. They have a good offense, I mean
good defensive line. Their defense has been phenomenal, three plus
turnovers in every single game. They're making plays, they're forcing
the issue. The San Francisco forty nine Ers defense had
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some opportunities. I thought the up and stout interception was
a phenomenal play. I thought that was a horseshit call.
I thought that was BS. There's no way you called
that after an interception. I mean there's a little push
and pull in every play. That wasn't enough to effect
the play in that way. You got to give him that.
And I thought Fred had a couple opportunities. He punched
the ball out. There are a couple of tips that
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bounced his way and he couldn't quite bring him in.
I'm sure he's kicking himself for that, but he was
around the ball. But eventually you got to get an interception.
This defense has to get a turnover. You got to
give the offense another possession, especially when they're playing like this.
But going back to your Detroit Lions, it's tough because
you guys dealt with a lot of injuries last year.
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So to have the injuries in the secondary that you're
having right now. Both starting corners banged up, one of
your safeties is banged up after playing a really solid game,
getting two turnovers, two big turnovers in that game. It's frustrating,
but it's the next man up in mentality. It has
to be. You don't have a choice. Hopefully those guys
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are healthy, Hopefully they get back soon, but you gotta
go next man up. This team is rolling offensively, and
nobody's gonna wait for you. Nobody's gonna gonna wait for
you to get healthy, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That's no question about that. But it's a good thing
to see, Richard. They're clicking on all cylinders. I'm sorry
about your San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I really am.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
There gonna be in a dog fight in that NFC weist,
and we just saw the hat change, Richard, because they're
tied neck and neck with the Seattle Seahawks top that
division with the Rams. But let's let's talk about this
Rams team right now. Because the Colts come to town.
One of your new favorite players of the year, Indiana Jones,
trots out to LA and they kept this game really competitive.
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Ultimately LA ended up pulling off the win. Stafford goes
for three seventy five and three touchdowns. Pooka a Cool,
Holy cow, can this guy ever be stopped? Thirteen receptions
for one hundred and seventy yards and a touchdown. He
is the new Cooper Cup out there, right Richard? I mean,
what is your thoughts on this LA Rams team? I
know you're gonna see him firsthand on Thursday night. What
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are your thoughts on this team? Because to me, personally,
I believe they're the best team in the NFC West,
just top to bottom.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I think they they're the guy wreckers.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Defensively, especially on the D line, and offensively, I mean,
we're seeing Pooka a Cool become this this absolute star,
and Matthew Stafford just continues to be as consistent self.
What's your thoughts on this Rams team?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I thought offensively, they really caught fire after struggling early
on Stafford go throw us for three seventy five and
three touchdowns. He was only sacked three times, and I
mean I thought they were beating him up a little bit.
But watching this game, I thought they benefited from some things.
You know, ada I Mitchell had a touchdown. He had
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a touchdown, thick touchdown where he spent off, ran it
in and literally dropped the ball at the goal line
for a touchback. Literally erased a touchdown off the board
in this game, and I think that was the difference
in the game. That's when a lot of things started
turning around. Another huge play in the game. The defender
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falls garden to to out Well and it ends up
being an eighty eight yard touchdown, a one play touchdown
when the game is tied up. And of course Matthew
Stafford does not miss the layups like that, and he
hit him right on the on the numbers to to
out Well runs it in a speedy guy. His only
catch of the day, eighty eight yard touchdown. So I thought,
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I still think the Indianapolis Colts in Indiana Jones are legit.
He did throw two interceptions in this game. Great plays
by the defense. Cam Curll had one of them. But
you can't have those mistakes against a really good team
like the Los Angeles Rams, like you said, at their
front causes a lot of issues and helped them in
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check for the most part. They held Jonathan Taylor and
check for the most part. He still had seventeen carries
for seventy six yards, and he had another big time
mistake on at A nine Mitchell. He had a fifty
one yard run where he was contained and broke two
three tackles and ran it in for fifty one yard touchdown,
and they called it back because of a holding call
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on number ten at A nine Mitchell. And that that's backbreaking,
that's back breaking. One guy single handedly might have lost
him in this game. And so will I give the
Rams a ton of credit. I gotta say that Colts
beat themselves in this game. I mean one guy beat him.
He took two touchdowns off the board and they lost
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by seven. And you can't have it. You can't have it.
I'm looking forward to this game in La versus the
San Francisco forty nine ers. I think it's gonna be
a doll fight out. The division games always are. Uh
McVay versus Shanahan always is. Those games are always close.
You know what they're gonna They know each other so
well defensively, I know Robert sala is gonna have these
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guys raring to go. Chris Shula is gonna have his
guys wearing to go. That D line, the San Francisco
forty nine ers offensive line has to figure out a
way to open up some holes. They have to find
some room for Christian McCaffrey. And maybe you gotta run
Brian Robinson a little bit more than they're running him.
I think they I think he has to have a
bigger role in his offense for them to really get going.
There are so many injuries right now. Hopefully they start
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to get healthier and get guys back. But man, they
couldn't have played much worse than the San Francisco forty nineers.
Couldn't have played much worse than they did today. And
then you got the Seattle Seahawks. That's why I'm wearing
a hat because to the winner goes to spoils. The
Seattle Seahawks played really good football, both sides of the
both sides of the ball, all three phases. They let
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the Arizona Cardinals back in the game gave him some
uncorrect characteristic explosives late.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
In that game.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
That I'm sure they want back. But for all intents
and purposes, Sam Donald looks the part. He looks like
a really good NFL quarterback. He looks like the guy
that they paid. He looks a little underpaid right now
with the way he's winning these ball games and pushing
offense down the field and controlling these games. Get the
word game manager is such a frown upon phrase now,
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it's it's looked at at so differently than it used
to be. But he's managing the game so well, and
that is winning football in the National Football League. Tom
Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time, the greatest,
the greatest football player for some people, and he would
say himself, he's he's really a phenomenal game manager. He
knows how to get the offense in position, he knows
how to take what the defense gives him, not put
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the ball in harm's way, control the clock, under standing
situations you're in. And that's what Sam Donold is doing
a great job of for the Seattle Seahawks week in
and week out. If they didn't have that that game
against the San Francisco for nineer. If that was closer
than than the score would would would suggest, Uh, they
could easily be undefeated again. Feel like they're gonna win
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this division and it's gonna be a tie with San
Francisco for nineer, but they're gonna have the tiebreaker.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I still feel that way.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I felt like that early and I still feel like
that right now because of how they're playing and the
injuries and things that San Francisco for nine ers are
dealing with. They they obviously missed Nicholas John Bolster today.
You could see that. You could see the lack of
pressure at times on on uh Trevor Lawrence. Not that
he had a huge game, but you needed to get
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him on the ground. You needed some turnovers, you needed
some some some big plays, and you needed your close
her out there, and he wasn't so uh, Mitchell. It's
a it's an interesting league right now. But the Eagles
Bucks game looked like a blowout early, but it ended
up being a game.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I can't really make much sense of this Philadelphia Eagles
team because you know, they got one of the best
ride receivers in football on aj Brown, and three of
the first four weeks of the season. They haven't even
thrown them the ball yet they're still winning. There's still
four and zero. They came out of the gates roaring,
you know, went up quick double digits against the Bucks
right away, and then the Bucks ultimately turned this thing
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around and make it competitive game. The more I watch
Baker Mayfield Richard, the more I love the guy. I
would love for him to be a quarterback of any
team I root for. He's just such a gamer seeing
him scramble out of the pocket and I'm third and
long fourth downs and getting the first downs, and they
really made this game more competitive than the score might
have suggested. But let's talk about this Eagles team because
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you know, as they continue to win, to me, I
just don't think they're the best team in the NFC.
And I know they're number one on your power ranks,
but I'm just not sold on it yet.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
How did they change their identity little bit here?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Because I know they got up so early, but statistically speaking,
they got to start getting aj Brown and the receivers
more involved in these games.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, I mean, if you look at it, statistically, their
superstars on offense didn't have superstar kind of days outside
of Jalen Hurts, and even he was fifteen for twenty
four four, one hundred and thirty yards and two touchdowns.
But again, managing the game and doing what is necessary
to win these ball games is all that matter. Statistics
don't really matter in this respect, and I think that's
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the way the Philadelphia Eagles are playing these games. They're
not worried about putting up gaudy statistics. They targeted AJ
Brown nine times in this game. He only had two
catches for seven yards, so it wasn't for a lack
of them trying to get him the football. But I'm
sure Todd Bowles understands who AJ Brown is and they've
had some success against Jalen Hurts, and I think Jalen
Hurts might have taken that personally in this game, and
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you could see he made a lot of big plays
with his legs. They held Sakwan Barkley and check nineteen
carries for forty three yards two point three a care.
They deal what they could against Saquon Barkley, but but
they found Dallas Goddard for two touchdowns. And so again,
no matter who you stop, you stop one guy, the
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next guy wins. You stop Saquon then then Jalen Hurts
is gonna do it with his legs. You stop Saquon,
I mean, you stop Jalen Hurst. Then Saquon Barkley's doing
them out the backfield catching the football. Deavonte Smith will
catch the football. He only had two catches in his
game on four targets. But I really liked what I
saw at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I think they're they're
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a better team than than people gave them credit to
start this season. I think they obviously have won the
NFC South four years in a row, and I think
they got a good chance to win it this year.
I really like the way Baker Mayfield's playing. I think
he's playing at a top five quarterback level in the
National Football League to be able to do this without
Mike Evans, they haven't been able to win a lot
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of games with Mike Evans is not in the lineup
for obvious reasons. He's an incredible all All World Hall
of Fame talent. That's a reason he's had so many yards.
But the way Baker was moving around and finding guys
using his legs, hitting the open guy. He hit a
Mecca Abuka on a seventy seven yard touchdown off of
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scramble you know, found him thread at the needle between
two defenders. It looked like a bus to coverage. Then
he found Bucky Irvy on another seventy yard touchdown. Bucky
Irving ended up with being the lead and receiver with
one hundred yards receiving and a Mecca had one hundred
yards receiving. So again, this Philadelphia Eagle secondary can be had.
And I think that's something different than it was a
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year ago, that that's a vulnerability that wasn't as much
last year. I thought they were one of the best
secondaries in the National Football League. But when you lose
big play Sleigh and you lose you know, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
CJ.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Garter Johnson got cut from the Houston Texans, but he
fit very well in his system. He did well, he
played well, and sometimes when you lose veterans like that,
angels of dynamic and there's been more mistakes in that secondary.
But Cooper dejen looked really good. They were trying him
up at the outside corner today. He had some really
really good coverage reps against a Mecca Abuka where he
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just played at square square shoulders. Great footwork, breaking on passes.
I thought he looked in control, he looked dominant, and
I thought I thought Quinon Mitchell looked the same. I
thought he looked great in his I think there was
some next gen stat about tight window throws, and he
had the most tight window that he forced, the most
tight window throws today, one of the highest in the
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National Football League in a long time. So you have
the guys, they have talented players, but people are finding
the others. People are finding the others to attack in
this defense. They're not going at the strengths of the defense.
But again, when you have Jalen Carter and guys like that,
you're not just gonna run the football on them all
day and you're not gonna have a ton of success
on the ground. But I think it might have just
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been the weather, that the weather in Tampa is super hot,
and that it will get to him eventually, And I
think after a while it gets to everybody, and he
started to weigh on him and guys, you know, just
natural fatigue, and you start to see Baker have a
little bit more time. But I still feel like the
best team in the National Football League right now is
the Philadelphia Eagles, and until they lose, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
To It's hard to say otherwise.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Let's talk about that same division, and this is the
New York Giants. They host LA Chargers today and they
shockingly get a win in Jackson Dart's first game as
a starter, and he impressed early. I mean, you saw
his mobility. You see why they like him. He gets
in the end zone on his first first possession of
the day. This is big time for the New York Giants.
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It's been needing a quarterback for it seems like forever,
and they finally have got some life. And as soon
as they get some life, Malik Neighbors goes down with
what is you know, believed to be an ACL tear
out for the season.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I absolutely hate to see it, but you're a nit.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Show impressions on Jackson Dart in his debut today.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I thought he had a solid debut.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And you know, obviously all the online conversation about Russell
Wilson and what we said on Thursday night after he
was bench for Jackson Dart is the big story for everybody.
But you saw the way the New York Giants played,
not just offensively, not that Jackson Dart had some gaudy
numbers or you know, he went out there and lit
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the world on fire. He just played solid football. He
used his legs when he needed to. He was sacked
six times. So it's not like the offensive line got
way better between the two quarterbacks. But you saw the
energy from the other side to the football. You saw
the defensive line. I mean, they have one of the
most talented defensive lines in the National Football League, but
you saw them getting after it. Obviously, the Chargers are
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without Rashaun Slater and lost Joe early in his game.
Two of the best tackles in the National Football League.
You lose both of them. Any team that loses both
their starting tackles is going to have a hard time.
This is not the team you want to be playing
against when you lose both to the starting tackles. And
I think that was evident. Brian Burns was all over
the place, Abdul Carter was all over to play sexy
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Dex Lawrence bat it pass, intercepted, return it to the five.
They only end up getting the field goal out of that.
He if he would have tugged that, that would have
been an incredible But even on special teams, they were
making plays on special teams. They were they were playing
with a renewed energy and swagger, and for them to
play which an opponent, which which might have been their
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toughest opponent of the year, with a rookie quarterback and
come out of there with the win was incredible. And
you could see this was a little this was kind
of kind of crazy, but you could see how Brian
Dabo responded. I don't know if you saw it, Mitchell,
but there was a clip of him and Jackson Dart
after the game and he was like head button him
and they were face to phase and hit and he
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was just so excited with him, you know, so hype,
like they're gonna be doing this for a long time.
And you could just see the love and appreciation and
the belief and faith that he has in Jackson Dart
and I just don't remember him having that with Russell Wilson.
And now that's gonna start some speculation of its own, Mitchell,
because just the way Brian da Bole approached the game,
there were conversations. I think it was Connor Hughes who
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put out a video saying, you know, there was there
was two different playbooks.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And guys felt look like there were two different playbooks.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
There was a playbook that Russell Wilson had and there
was a playbook that Jackson Dart that was for Jackson Dart.
And that's weird. That's I've never heard that in the NFL.
I never you hear about packages for guys, if a
young guy might have a zone read package or something
like that. But the way they were talking about it,
it was almost like, hey, they're not giving Russell Wilson
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the full playbook, but they're giving Jackson Dart the full
playbook or vice versa.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know, it was odd, odd thing to hear.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But I thought Jackson Dart for his first start against
a defense that's been playing really lights out in some
big games, some competitive games. They've played lights out against
a lot of good opponents. I thought he played well
thirteen for twenty one hundred eleven yards a TD and
ran for TD. I think for a rook that's nice.
That's solid, especially when you get sacked six times. They'll
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play worse teams in the future. I think they played
the Saints next week, which isn't anything to sneeze that.
I think people underestimate the Saints because they've been losing,
but that defense has some guys that can go. But
I think that'll be a confidence builder. And I know
people were hesitant about day Bo's decision to play in
versus the Chargers. I think they kind of consider this
an automatical loss if he played Jackson Dart. And to
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see them play all these games, They've played three games
on the season and the only win comes when the
rookie gets on the field against a really, really talented
team that's well coached and playing well in the Chargers.
It's really cool. It's really cool. I enjoyed that for him.
I like that for day Ball. He saves his job
for another week. Hopefully, you know, they can have some
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sustained success and the Giants stick with them.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Richard, I'm gonna ask you a tough question. What does
this say about Russell Wilson. The team comes out, you know,
first week without him as a starter and gets a win,
and it gets a very tough opponent. What does this
say about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I'm not sure it says anything about Russell Wilson as
much as it says something about like new newt better.
You know, sometimes people like the new toy and not
that it's like when you get a new car. It
could be a used car, it could be just a
different car than the car you've been driving, but there's
an excitement level. There's a fun about driving a different car.
It might not even be better than the car you've
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been driving, but it's newer, it's different, it's fun. And
I think that's what guys feel when you're losing. You
just want to see something different. You just want to
see a change. Maybe they were seeing things in practice
that we're exciting, you know, maybe the kid was making
some plays. It was kind of like the Kansas City
Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes when they know everybody. They were
talking about him so much in practice and everything he
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was doing in practice, you kind of like knew eventually
they're gonna push Alex Smith out of here for some
reason or another and play this kid because the team
has talked about him too much that the excitement, the
momentum is going too much.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
And I think sometimes when you.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Have a guy sitting behind, especially a draft pick, no
matter what, it's gonna unless you have immediate success. So
unless Russell Wilson came out and won the first three
four games, the pressure to play him from a coach
that's on the hot seat was gonna be immense. And
the only way he could guarantee that he saw Jackson
Dark play and he got to coach him and got
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to at least put him on the field and see
what he had was to make this decision.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So I don't know. I think it was just the.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Team, you know, the new, the new hotness, the new,
the new guy, and then the excitement that comes with that,
the new different thing, the unknown. And now I would
only guess that the momentum continues to grow from from
Giants fans in from everybody else.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
With the first winning season, yeah, I mean, the momentum
is there. And you gotta love their draft class too.
Have Duel Carter has led all rookies with pressures on
the season. And then the running back Cam Skataboo. I mean,
this guy is made for New York football, absolute bowling ball,
all heart and hustle. At twenty five carries for almost
eighty yards today. You know, you got to love to
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see what they've done with this draft class. And there
is at least some hope for the New York Giants
going forward. Back to Russell quickly. Do you think that
he sticks with the team through the rest of the year.
Do you think they trade him? Do you think they
give him the courtesy and waive them so he can
go and sign with somebody like the Saints to continue starting, or.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
What do you think is gonna go on with him?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I would have guessed they trade him. That would be
my first guess.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
There are a lot of QB needy teams, and if
they feel like they have a chance late in the
season where they got to get enough roster and it's
just a quarterback away, you know, the natty bangles come
to mind right now, and and and or if somebody
gets hurt. You know, if somebody starter gets hurt and
they need a veteran guy and they know Russell Wilson
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can come in and make a difference, or or at
least continue to keep them on the track to get
where they think they're they're capable of getting. But I
think the Giants will try to get something for him.
I don't think they'll just trade them away for nothing.
I don't think they will release him for nothing. Maybe
if it's fast the trade deadline and a team loses
a quarterback. I think they'll do them that courtesy. But again,
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just like today, Jackson Dirt get a little banged up,
and you needed Russell Wilson to come in.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
And and and and play for a couple of snaps.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Not that Jameis Winston couldn't do that, but it would
take the right offer and and it would have to
benefit the Giants in a big way out the match.
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Speaker 3 (31:01):
Let's move on to what many would consider to be
the game of the week, one and two Kansas City
Chief Team hosting the one and two Baltimore Ravens. Both
all fans of football across the world have a lot
higher hopes for both of these teams than one and
two start. I think it's probably the biggest shocker in
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the NFL. I guess you know news circuit right now
is the fact that both these teams are one and two,
and one of them is going to be one and
three leaving this game. Ultimately, it's the Baltimore Ravens. Richard,
is it safe to say that the Baltimore Ravens are
going to miss the playoffs statistically? And I know you're
a big statistics Guy, teams that start one in three
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have approximately a fourteen percent chance of making the NFL postseason.
The Baltimore Ravens find themselves in that exact position at
one in three.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Do you see them missing the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I don't think so, But if they did to, oh
my god, it's furniture going to be moving in Baltimore.
I can't imagine what that fan base is gonna do.
I can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Obviously, that front office has been pretty stable and they've
been pretty consistent, so John Harball isn't going anywhere. But
you could see the frustration even after a couple losses,
and it's weird to just see them play without confidence
offensively after your Detroit Lions came in there. It's almost
like their shell shock. And you never see Lamar Jackson
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play where he looks where he looks hurried or rushed
or panicky. He's not seeing the field.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
He threw fo one hundred and forty seven yards a TD,
but he threw a interception in this game, and he
never looked comfortable. They only ran Derrick Henry eight times
in this ball game for forty two yards. That's not bad,
but again it doesn't look like they trust him. It
doesn't look like they trust him. He's fumbled in big moments,
but he's also been one of the most dominant running
backs in the last deck, so so I think there's
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some internal strikes in there, but they're a veteran team.
They're gonna figure it out. Mahomes through for two seventy
and four touchdowns. He looked really good dominated this defense,
and I think that's where a lot of the turmoil
will start on the defensive side of the football. Obviously,
obviously they're playing without nom Day, not a Bouquet who's
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one of their best players in a disruptor up front.
But you still got you still got guys in the
back end. Kyle Hamilton, Marlon Humphries that that should be
veteran guys that have played at a high level, that
that know that are all pros in this National Football
League who aren't playing to the level that they played
at in the past. And they gave up a lot
of points, they gave up a lot of yards in
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this game, and it's uncharacteristic of a Baltimore Ravens defense.
So that's the more disappointing part is just like man
you guys aren't playing up to the standard that the
national public is used to the Baltimore Ravens up to.
It's it's not even like, hey, we're you're not playing
to an all pro level. It's just you know, when
you go watch the Baltimore Ravens play, you expect great
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defense and they're not playing it. Or you expect Lamar
Jackson to be dynamic and be dominant, or them to
hand them all off to Derrick Henry. But for them
to have between Lamar Jackson passing and Derrick Henry is
rushing to be under two hundred yards, it's just I'm
not not something I thought we would see in a
full game, especially against the Kansas City Chiefs, who have
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a really good defense and spacks calls a great game,
but Derrick Henry and Lamar always gets theirs no matter what.
So it's really disappointing. And it's probably a shell shock
for that team to start one and three, But I
think they'll respond and come back. They're in a weaker division,
and you know with the with the Cincinnati Bengals and
without Joe Burrow and the Cleveland Browns just lost to
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your Detroit Lions and they have a great defense, but
struggling offensively Flacko with some really really head scratching interceptions to.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
But no, I don't think they missed the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
What does this win say about the Kansas City Chiefs team, Richard,
this team.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
It was like a lot.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Of the national media wrote them off and they said,
maybe this is a time that Kansas City just collapses.
Started one and two with an only win of the season,
a very unimpressive showing against the New York Giants last week.
They come in this week and it's like they took
that personal and they wanted to show They wanted to
show to everyone that they're They're still here. There's still
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the same team that goes to the super Bowl every
single year. They look dominant today. They definitely showed me,
at least that there's still somebody that you got to
be very very serious about.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Long term.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I'm assuming they might make a showing in the top
five of Richard Sherman's power ranks here soon at some
point if they continue playing like this. But what is
a win, a statement win like this show to you
about the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Well, they're a championship team. You know this reason. They've
been in the Super Bowl five in the last six years.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So I'm not writing now. I told you I'm not
writing them off. I don't care what their record is.
They could be they could be on in in six
on eight. I was still I don't know they're going
to run because they've shown that and they they have.
As long as they still have Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes,
Travis Kelce, Chris Jones, Spags, they're gonna have a chance.
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And uh Trent McDuffie is still still there playing good football.
Nick Bolton, the guys, they still have all the a
lot of the pieces on the championship team. They'll get
Rashi Rice back. That'll be a big addition to their
to their offense. Xavier Worthy obviously came back and made
an impact today. Thornton was making an impact in instead.
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They're still a team that can be very dangerous with
a quarterback who can be the best in the National
Football League when he's on. And so no, I'm not
gonna count him out, and I wasn't gonna count him
out in the first place. I still think whether they're
the one seed or the seventh seed, they're gonna be
a tough out in the playoffs and nobody wants good
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and want to play.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
You can be a dominant team like it could be
the whoever it is.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
It could be the Buffalo Bills, and they feel really
good and they get the two seed or they get
the one seed and they got to play the Kansas
City Chiefs in a divisional. If they're not gonna feel
great about that, I know they're not. It's gonna be nightmare.
It's gonna be traumatic. They're gonna have nightmares before the
game because of the history with Patrick Mahomes, and you
know how dangerous he can be. No matter how it
looked in the regular season. He's found a way. They've
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found a way, they've game planned right, they've showed up
in big moments, and they found a way to win
when winning was needed. So no, I'm not counting out
to the Kansas City Chiefs, not me unless one of
those guys goes down with the season long injury or
something crazy. And even then I have a hard time.
I'm an knock on woo because I don't want that.
Nobody in the football world does. But I think they're
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gonna have a chance and they're gonna be dangerous in
the postseason. I don't even talk about the Chiefs into
the postseason because of regular season. No matter, I don't know,
it's not gonna matter what they're seeded, They're gonna be
a tough out.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
This AFC West Division is certainly looking like it's gonna
be a tight match all the way to the finish line. Obviously,
with the Chargers losing today, we'll see how the Broncos
continue to play here. But the AFC North is we
just talked about it briefly with the Baltimore Ravens. But
you gotta look at the Steelers at some point here, Richard.
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They're three and one now with Aaron Rodgers. They go
across the plan play in Ireland, our boy, big play slaves.
Gotta be happy coming back to the US with the
w This is big time for them. And they get
a bye week and then they go to the they
play the Browns, the Bengals, and then their schedule gets
tough with the Packers and Colts. Theoretically, they should win
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their next two games and be five and one. Do
you believe in the Pittsburgh Steelers team at three to
one top of their division?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yes, I do, and The big reason is Aaron Rodgers.
I know Aaron Rodgers, and I know he's looked rough
the last couple of years. He tore his achilles and
then he you know, was coming back. But he's still
Aaron Rodgers and he still has a way about him.
DK Metcalf is starting to find his rhythm in this offense.
Aaron was an efficient eighteen of twenty two for two
hundred yards and a touchdown. In this game. Metcalf had
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five catches for one to twenty six. You could see
the chemistry between those guys developing and strengthening. You could
see him hitting him on the pack, shoulder faith, the
one step hitches, just get getting him involved. Kenneth Gainwell
had almost one hundred yards today. He had two touchdowns.
The defense had two interceptions and six sacks. And they
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were the object of a lot of scrutiny early in
this season. And for them to go all the way
over there and everybody made a big deal about their
playing and the Minnesota Vikings had all the first class
seats and a nice, super nice plane, and the Pittsburgh
Steelers rode over their old school. We getting here, how
we get in, how we live and they played like that.
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They played like hungry dolls. They chase, they chased, they
were aggressive, they were hungry.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
T J. Watt was making big impact plays. I thought
he almost well.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
He ended up having an interception in the game, but
he had a number of plays where he made huge plays,
batting the ball down, sacks, pressures, things like that. I
think this team is getting back to where they need
to be and a bye week does nothing but helped
this veteran team. It looked like Jalen Rams he got
a little banged up, maybe a little hamstring strain. So
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a week off and some rest will help him, you know,
help them get even healthier and be better when they
get back. But they're gonna be a tough, tough team.
They're gonna be a tough route than they've been in
the past. With all these veterans and Anon Rodgers at
the helm, I think he and Tomlin are getting to
know each other. There was a moment in a game
where where Aaron wanted to go for it. Tomland obviously
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wanted the points. He succumbed to what Aaron wants. They
end up getting stopped on that play and it gave
the Minnesota Vikings a chance late in the game, and
I think those are conversations. It's a great growing moment
for both both of them, but it's a growing moment
in a win, which is much better and much easier
to deal with than growing moments and losses. But I
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think that just goes to the respect that Tomlin has
for Aaron Rodgers and what he's done in this league
and big play in it. They can be a splash
play defense. There was a lot of splash plays today.
But on the other side, Carson Wentz threw for three
fifty and two touchdowns. He threw the two interceptions and
ended up being coll seed. Justin Jefferson ten catches for
one twenty six. So again, Kevin O'Connor was going to
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have a tough decision when JJ McCarthy is healthy and
ready to go because of how well Wins is running
this offense, not that it's perfect, not that it's perfect
by any means, because you know, he's taking sacks, he's
getting beat up, he's making mistakes to two interceptions, one
of them was tipped up. But he's been better than
McCarthy has been. He's been just a veteran in this offense,
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hitting the guys that are there making the players are there.
There are some high misses that he had, but I
think that's gonna be a tough tougher decision for Kevin
O'Connell than it would have been if he hadn't played
as well as he's playing.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
The Vikings are in unfamiliar territory and that's losing football games.
Were fourteen and three last year, this year they're two
and two. They don't look like the same team without
Sam Darnold, who's over in Seattle now, and like you've
mentioned a number of times, you thought it was a
mistake that they didn't bring him back, and I'm thinking
that the Minnesota fan base is probably starting to think
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that same way. Sure, Carson Wentz steps up there and
has a good statistical game, but the reality is, you know,
this doesn't look like the same Minnesota Vikings team. Let's
see if they can bounce back next week. It is
good to see Justin Jefferson getting more involved, though it
was a slow start to the year for him, but
ten receptions for one to twenty six and they're gonna
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stick over across the pond. They play in the London
next Sunday, Richard, what is your thoughts on.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
That's just rude.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
They put them in international two weeks in a row,
so they're they're sticking. They're sticking over there for another week.
I mean, do you think these these games are getting
out of hand? Like I like the fact that they're
doing them, you know in Brazil and South America, but
like these nine thirty am Eastern Times starts. I mean,
let's be real, are you jumping out of bed at
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six thirty in the morning Pacific time to flip on
a football game?
Speaker 4 (43:29):
It just doesn't seem like real football when it's at early.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I definitely jumped out of the bin and watched it today,
and I actually enjoyed it. I enjoyed dk Metcalf's eighty
yard touchdown run. I enjoyed Aaron playing well and you know,
getting a rushing, rushing first down and then fumbling in
football and then laughing about it.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I enjoyed it. It was fun. It was fun to see.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
But I would not enjoyed if I was a member
of the Minnesota Vikings and I had to fly from
Ireland to London and be away from my family for
two weeks to play the game that we've been playing
from home just to make people happy. I make international
folks happy, Like you could have another team like it,
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give us a couple of weeks break and let us
do it again.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
I think they might have a little bit of advantage
if they're already over there and they get to spend
a week in acclimate, but it's not it's negligible, you know,
whoever wakes up and is ready to go. The Minnesota
Vikings hadn't lost internationally until today when the Pittsburgh Steelers
got them, so that was something. So maybe they have
a different understanding and agreement with the league and they
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just know how to do it well. But that Brown's
defense isn't anything to play with it, it's nothing to
joke with after flag holes play. I'm not sure if
the Browns start to consider a change that quarterback potentially,
but their defense is still playing well. But I would
not appreciate that, Mitchell. I would not appreciate being international
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two weeks in a row. I mean, I'm sorry, I'd
love you know. I'm more for growing the game and
all that, but like, let me.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Go home, Richard, before we wrap things up here, We
got to just talk a little bit about Ashton Genty
that the number six overall pick goes to play for
your former head coach Pete Carroll, and everyone's just kind
of been waiting for him to break out. You've seen
kind of glimpses here and there. I think the statistic
was he had more yard rush yards after contact than
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he did rushing yards. I want to say it was
something like it was one for one. So this guy
was getting hit in the backfield all the time. They
finally gave him some running lianes today to work with,
and he showed why he was picked number six overall,
going for one hundred and thirty eight yards and three touchdowns,
one receiving or two receiving and one rushing. That's a
big deal for him. Unfortunately, the Las Vegas Raiders do
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not pull off the win. They go down in similar
fashion to what we saw last week numerous times with
block field goals again rears itself today.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
Richard, what's the deal with all these block field goals?
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I don't know. I don't know. That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Some of it is just offensive lines not being as
strong as they used to be and not being able
to sustain against some of these stronger defensive linemen. Some
of it is these corners timing it up well and
and that simple hand release tactic that most field goal
teams use is predictable and sometimes they switch it up,
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but if you guess you're right and you time it right.
It seems like more and more teams are taking that
risk and going forward and guessing right. And that's just
what happened today. The Bears were able to block one
and that's saved the game for them because if the
Raiders make that field goal, they win that football game.
So big win for the Bears. Tragic loss for the Raiders.
But shout out to Ashton Genty, big run, big rush
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yards today, three touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Happy for the kid. Hat tip to the kid. He
deserves it.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
You know, he's been getting a lot of scrutiny and
a lot of He's a bus, he's a bus conversation,
so it's great to see him have some success.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Always happy to see that the Bills are four and
on now.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I'm not sure are they hitting shoulders above every other
team in the AFC?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I'm not sure, but Josh Allen gives him that advantage.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Like without Josh Allen though they're not, but they have
Josh Allen, and he's the MVP, reigning MVP of the
National Football League, and so he's getting them over the top.
This game against the Saints was closer than it probably
needed to be, but again, Josh Allen decided I don't
want it to be that close anymore, and he took
over the game, made huge plays, showed that he's the difference.
He's the gap between the next teams and the AFC,
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and not that he's a greater quarterback than everybody else,
but his team, for his team and what he needs
to do, he's playing outstanding football and he's putting them
over the top. And I don't think there's a team
in the AFC better than them. I'm not sure they
won't go undefeated, because no team goes undefeated, but they're
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gonna be a tough, tough team to beat consistently, especially
when they're playing in Buffalo. But yeah, I think they're
the best team in AFC. I'm not sure if they're
heading shoulders, and I don't think they're better than Philadelphia Eagles.
If I'm if I had to, if you put a
gun to my head today and ask me, I think
the Philadelphia Eagles are a better team, and which is
why they are one and two of my power rankings.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
There you go, wow, we can get to three, four
and five later because I know we got some other
guys you have to play here, specifically the Green Bay Packers,
who are on the cusp of your top five.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
I know.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Before we leave this, Richard, the quote of the day
comes from cam Ward of the Tennessee Titans. He was
asked about what they thought about his team, and he said,
if we keep it a buck right now, we're asked,
I mean, do you appreciate this candor for him or
do you think he needs to kind of you think
this is out of line.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
It's not out of line. It's just honesty from a quarterback.
But his team isn't good enough overall. And so if
this was a veteran team, a team like if he
was playing for the Minnesota Vikings and they were a
fourteen win team last year and they just aren't playing
good and they've lost a couple of games, you can't
say it, and the veterans aren't gonna allow you to
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say it. And you're not perfect enough, you don't have
the credibility to say it, and so I think that
speaks to the point you got to have the credibility
with great play. You know, all pro quarterbacks, all Pro players,
super Bowl winners, guys that are established in this league,
they can say things like that. If Aaron Rodgers came
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out and said, hey, we played like ass today, we
played a crap. We got to be better than that.
It's Aaron Rodgers, four time MVP, Super Bowl champion. You're
not gonna be able to say much to him. If
Tom Brady comes out and says it, if Matthew Stafford
comes out and says it again, they have credibility. When
you're a rookie quarterback, you know, although you were the
first pick in the draft, I don't think you can
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and get away with saying that without ruffling feathers in
your locker room because because they're betteran guys.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Sure, it's not going your way right now.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
You've lost three games, You've played the Rams, the Broncos,
and you just lost to the Colts a division loss,
and then you lose this game. So sure you could say, hey,
we're not playing very well right now, but saying it
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that way it capsulates the whole team. And that's it.
That's the mistake. As a quarterback. You have to say,
I'm not playing good enough right now, and it sucks
because even if you feel like you are playing good enough.
That's the responsibility the quarterback has. That's the leadership. That's
all the things you talk about from great quarterbacks. You say, hey,
this is on me. I got to play better. There's
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some things I can do to put my teammates in
better positions to win the football game. I'm going to
go back to the drawing board, study the tape and
see what we can do better. But this is a
frustrating feeling right now to not play up to the
standard that we know where capable of. But we'll get
back to it next week. We'll plush this one and
get back to the drawing board. That's all you gotta say.
That's all you gotta say. You can't say. You can't
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say that because you're the leader of the team and
you're the voice of the team. And when you say that,
you piss other guys off. Were like, I'm playing well,
I'm playing hard. I'm doing my job. And if you
maybe you did your job, then you know, then you
start to get the finger pointing and it starts to
tear locker room apartmental So you can't be careful with that,
young camp Well Richard.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
That concludes a week four's Sunday Night recap.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
I will let you sign us off, my friend.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
As always, it's been a nice week. I'm sorry for
the San Francisco forty nine ers faithful fans. It was
a rough one. It was a rough one. They got
to play better than that, and they will play better
than that. I can't wait to see you guys on
Thursday night. I will be there in LA for Thursday
Night Football. Check us out TNF tonight starting four pm
Pacific until the game starts at five fifteen Pacific time.
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It's going to be a fantastic division game. I can't
wait to see you there. For all you other fans,
congratulations on your teams winning or keep hope alive. If
your team lost today, it ain't over yet. It's a
long season and you never know what can happen. This
is the NFL. As always, we appreciate you joining us.
You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here
with us, and we sure do appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
All.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Love
Welcome back to Richard Truman Podcast. It was another incredible week,
but unfortunately the San Francisco forty nine Ers lose twenty
six to twenty one to the Jacksonville Jaguars. One of
the worst games I've seen him play in a very
long time, just on I mean, I can't say both
sides of the ball, because I felt like the defense
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in the second half really picked it up and started
to figure it out. But offensively, that was that was
bad football. I mean not in terms of moving the ball.
They threw for three hundred yards. They ran for about
eighty three, which is lower than Kyle would won, I'm sure,
but it just was a sloppy game, an uninspired game.
They gave up a touchdown on special teams on a
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punt return and nobody was even close. It didn't it
look like a practice rep multiple interceptions by brock Party
and then a fumble by Eric Armstead of all people.
At the end of the game. It was disastrous. But
I know your I know you feeling good, Mitchell. It
was tough sleding there early against the Cleveland Browns. It
still is one of the top defenses in the National
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Football League, and they have a lot of guys that
can do it. But for Detroit, Lions slowly but surely
got the engine turning and pulled it off.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Tell me how you feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh, they're starting to look like a juggernaut, Richard. I'm
certainly going into Sunday a lot more at ease with
these last three weeks. And listen the Cleveland Browns there.
You know they're the one in three Cleveland Browns. But
reality is, they just beat one of the best teams
in the league in the Green Bay Packers last week.
So coming into this week, you know the Lions are
on high alert. Cleveland Trotzen statistically the number one defense
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in the league, and Detroit took care of business thirty
four to ten, and we saw it all over the field.
I mean, i'mon ras Saint Brown two touchdowns, you know,
Gibbs ninety one rushing yards, and it's just right now.
It's a combination of a couple of things. For one,
this defense is looking dynamic, looking like one of the
best defenses in the league, which I myself might have
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called at the beginning of the year. But the more
surprising thing is this offensive line.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Richard.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
They're replacing two key components right in the middle, and
Frank Reganow and Kevin Zeitdler and they insert a rookie
right from Georgia. Frank, I'm sorry, Tate Ratledice offensive guard
is going right next door to Christian Mahogany. Richard, these
two guys are turning into absolute studs right in front
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of our eyes, and it's giving the Lions that extra
cushion with their salary cap. If you think about it,
between those two players, they're bolt on rookie deals right
there in tier of Their offensive line is probably making
about twelve million dollars collectively. That is a huge, huge
opportunity for the Lions to continue to build this roster.
But to give up zero sacks for the second week
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in a row with this young offensive line, Detroit's got
to feel very very good about what's ahead the rest
of this season. You know, Richard, I want to talk
a little bit about the secondary though, because I know
you love you some terry On Arnold, I know you
love you some DJ Reid. You know, reality is, we
saw one of the guys in terry On have a
reduced role this week, and he gets another penalty, and
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we see Dj Reed go out with looks what looks
like a meaningful hamstring injury. Let's start with Terry on Richard.
He struggled of recent he has not been able to
stay off well. If the penalty's off of his back
and we see another one today, you know, what is
your advice for a young player like him who's going
through the motions but has the talent.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
H You just got to stop pressing, you know, just
do your job. Trust your technique. You know, I'm sure
that's exactly what the coaches are telling them. You got
to trust your technique. You know, you feel like you're pressing.
You want to cover so well, you want to do
things so well. Sometimes it's less is more, and that's
where you got to get to his less is more.
But I got to get back to the to the
San Francisco forty nine ers and complete that little recap
because that was awful and I want the pople to
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understand that. And we'll finish it off your Detroit Lions.
But brock perty is back. I think they they if
if mac Jones wasn't hurt as badly as he was,
I think he starts this game. You could see the
rust obviously, Brock completed some really good passes, but you
could see the rust offensive line again. He was under
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the rest. The pockets were collapsed in but he had
adequate time. There weren't very many holes for Christian McCaffrey
to work his way through. Way, way, way too many
drops from why I mean, I can't I can't just
say to why receivers because there was everybody wide, receivers,
the running backs, the tighty ends. Everybody had had a
hand in dropping passes in this game. And and still
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they had a chance to win because they're a really
good team in Jacksonville isn't a great team.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But to turn the ball over what it ended up
being three three times, it might have been four or
it was four for four turnovers. To turn the ball
over four times in any game, it's unacceptable. That's an
unacceptable thing to do.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And I'm sure Kyle Shanahan is gonna have his foot
deep in a lot of people's rear ends because that's
not forty nine ers football. And those drops, those drops
are just those. There weren't all difficult passes, you know,
some of them were high. I think the one Christian
that ended up getting picked by by Lloyd was high.
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But there was something that was that were right in
the gut.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I thought.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I thought the one KB dropped was right in his
hands and a play that I've seen him make a
lot of times. I thought Christian dropped the easy one.
I thought there was It just seemed like Murphy's law.
Everything that could go wrong went wrong. And defensively, they
start the game off given given Travis Etn a forty
eight yard touchdown almost untouched down the sideline. That was,
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Oh my god, that was disappointing. And then to let
them drive thirteen or fourteen plays whatever it was, all
the way down the field after giving up a third
and long to Travis Hunter a twenty eight yard game
when they were backed up. If you get that stop,
it's an entirely different game. And it looked like they
had a chance to get the ball out, but steal
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and unacceptable play by that defense. But after that, the
defense only gave up three points. I want to say
they gave up two touchdowns early. They gave up three
points in the second half, and then there were other
things that happened. The special teams gave up on return
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as we said, and again the offense had a chance
to win the game with three minutes to go, driving
down the field, a good pass to Christian McCaffrey, and
then you can't have that fumble. You cannot have that play.
You cannot you have to protect the football. And again,
it just seemed like everybody was going through the motions
this game. I don't know why, I don't. I love
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this team, I love watching them, but that just felt
like everybody's going through the motions, like, hey, we're three
and zero, you know, maybe maybe looking forward a little
bit to the Rams game. I'm not sure, but I'm
hoping that. You know, again, it's the NFC West is
really tight right now. Everybody's three and one at the top.
The Rams pull out a tough win against the Indianapolis Colts,
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the Seattle Seahawks pull off a win against the Arizona Cardinals,
and the San Francisco forty nine Ers lose a game
that they probably should have won and could have easily
won a team that they were better than and they
did not win.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So this is gonna be a tough division.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Three to one at the top, three teams tied, and
you got a tough Rams team who's battle tested, who
played a great game at home last week and who
were playing at home again on Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You gotta get you gotta pick it up, lick your
wounds and figure it out.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's a short week, and guys got to come back
locked and they got to run the ball better. They
got to move people. Now, you got to give the
Jacksonville Jaguars credit. They have a good offense, I mean
good defensive line. Their defense has been phenomenal, three plus
turnovers in every single game. They're making plays, they're forcing
the issue. The San Francisco forty nine Ers defense had
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some opportunities. I thought the up and stout interception was
a phenomenal play. I thought that was a horseshit call.
I thought that was BS. There's no way you called
that after an interception. I mean there's a little push
and pull in every play. That wasn't enough to effect
the play in that way. You got to give him that.
And I thought Fred had a couple opportunities. He punched
the ball out. There are a couple of tips that
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bounced his way and he couldn't quite bring him in.
I'm sure he's kicking himself for that, but he was
around the ball. But eventually you got to get an interception.
This defense has to get a turnover. You got to
give the offense another possession, especially when they're playing like this.
But going back to your Detroit Lions, it's tough because
you guys dealt with a lot of injuries last year.
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So to have the injuries in the secondary that you're
having right now. Both starting corners banged up, one of
your safeties is banged up after playing a really solid game,
getting two turnovers, two big turnovers in that game. It's frustrating,
but it's the next man up in mentality. It has
to be. You don't have a choice. Hopefully those guys
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are healthy, Hopefully they get back soon, but you gotta
go next man up. This team is rolling offensively, and
nobody's gonna wait for you. Nobody's gonna gonna wait for
you to get healthy, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That's no question about that. But it's a good thing
to see, Richard. They're clicking on all cylinders. I'm sorry
about your San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I really am.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
There gonna be in a dog fight in that NFC weist,
and we just saw the hat change, Richard, because they're
tied neck and neck with the Seattle Seahawks top that
division with the Rams. But let's let's talk about this
Rams team right now. Because the Colts come to town.
One of your new favorite players of the year, Indiana Jones,
trots out to LA and they kept this game really competitive.
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Ultimately LA ended up pulling off the win. Stafford goes
for three seventy five and three touchdowns. Pooka a Cool,
Holy cow, can this guy ever be stopped? Thirteen receptions
for one hundred and seventy yards and a touchdown. He
is the new Cooper Cup out there, right Richard? I mean,
what is your thoughts on this LA Rams team? I
know you're gonna see him firsthand on Thursday night. What
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are your thoughts on this team? Because to me, personally,
I believe they're the best team in the NFC West,
just top to bottom.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I think they they're the guy wreckers.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Defensively, especially on the D line, and offensively, I mean,
we're seeing Pooka a Cool become this this absolute star,
and Matthew Stafford just continues to be as consistent self.
What's your thoughts on this Rams team?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I thought offensively, they really caught fire after struggling early
on Stafford go throw us for three seventy five and
three touchdowns. He was only sacked three times, and I
mean I thought they were beating him up a little bit.
But watching this game, I thought they benefited from some things.
You know, ada I Mitchell had a touchdown. He had
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a touchdown, thick touchdown where he spent off, ran it
in and literally dropped the ball at the goal line
for a touchback. Literally erased a touchdown off the board
in this game, and I think that was the difference
in the game. That's when a lot of things started
turning around. Another huge play in the game. The defender
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falls garden to to out Well and it ends up
being an eighty eight yard touchdown, a one play touchdown
when the game is tied up. And of course Matthew
Stafford does not miss the layups like that, and he
hit him right on the on the numbers to to
out Well runs it in a speedy guy. His only
catch of the day, eighty eight yard touchdown. So I thought,
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I still think the Indianapolis Colts in Indiana Jones are legit.
He did throw two interceptions in this game. Great plays
by the defense. Cam Curll had one of them. But
you can't have those mistakes against a really good team
like the Los Angeles Rams, like you said, at their
front causes a lot of issues and helped them in
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check for the most part. They held Jonathan Taylor and
check for the most part. He still had seventeen carries
for seventy six yards, and he had another big time
mistake on at A nine Mitchell. He had a fifty
one yard run where he was contained and broke two
three tackles and ran it in for fifty one yard touchdown,
and they called it back because of a holding call
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on number ten at A nine Mitchell. And that that's backbreaking,
that's back breaking. One guy single handedly might have lost
him in this game. And so will I give the
Rams a ton of credit. I gotta say that Colts
beat themselves in this game. I mean one guy beat him.
He took two touchdowns off the board and they lost
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by seven. And you can't have it. You can't have it.
I'm looking forward to this game in La versus the
San Francisco forty nine ers. I think it's gonna be
a doll fight out. The division games always are. Uh
McVay versus Shanahan always is. Those games are always close.
You know what they're gonna They know each other so
well defensively, I know Robert sala is gonna have these
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guys raring to go. Chris Shula is gonna have his
guys wearing to go. That D line, the San Francisco
forty nine ers offensive line has to figure out a
way to open up some holes. They have to find
some room for Christian McCaffrey. And maybe you gotta run
Brian Robinson a little bit more than they're running him.
I think they I think he has to have a
bigger role in his offense for them to really get going.
There are so many injuries right now. Hopefully they start
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to get healthier and get guys back. But man, they
couldn't have played much worse than the San Francisco forty nineers.
Couldn't have played much worse than they did today. And
then you got the Seattle Seahawks. That's why I'm wearing
a hat because to the winner goes to spoils. The
Seattle Seahawks played really good football, both sides of the
both sides of the ball, all three phases. They let
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the Arizona Cardinals back in the game gave him some
uncorrect characteristic explosives late.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
In that game.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
That I'm sure they want back. But for all intents
and purposes, Sam Donald looks the part. He looks like
a really good NFL quarterback. He looks like the guy
that they paid. He looks a little underpaid right now
with the way he's winning these ball games and pushing
offense down the field and controlling these games. Get the
word game manager is such a frown upon phrase now,
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it's it's looked at at so differently than it used
to be. But he's managing the game so well, and
that is winning football in the National Football League. Tom
Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time, the greatest,
the greatest football player for some people, and he would
say himself, he's he's really a phenomenal game manager. He
knows how to get the offense in position, he knows
how to take what the defense gives him, not put
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the ball in harm's way, control the clock, under standing
situations you're in. And that's what Sam Donold is doing
a great job of for the Seattle Seahawks week in
and week out. If they didn't have that that game
against the San Francisco for nineer. If that was closer
than than the score would would would suggest, Uh, they
could easily be undefeated again. Feel like they're gonna win
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this division and it's gonna be a tie with San
Francisco for nineer, but they're gonna have the tiebreaker.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I still feel that way.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I felt like that early and I still feel like
that right now because of how they're playing and the
injuries and things that San Francisco for nine ers are
dealing with. They they obviously missed Nicholas John Bolster today.
You could see that. You could see the lack of
pressure at times on on uh Trevor Lawrence. Not that
he had a huge game, but you needed to get
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him on the ground. You needed some turnovers, you needed
some some some big plays, and you needed your close
her out there, and he wasn't so uh, Mitchell. It's
a it's an interesting league right now. But the Eagles
Bucks game looked like a blowout early, but it ended
up being a game.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I can't really make much sense of this Philadelphia Eagles
team because you know, they got one of the best
ride receivers in football on aj Brown, and three of
the first four weeks of the season. They haven't even
thrown them the ball yet they're still winning. There's still
four and zero. They came out of the gates roaring,
you know, went up quick double digits against the Bucks
right away, and then the Bucks ultimately turned this thing
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around and make it competitive game. The more I watch
Baker Mayfield Richard, the more I love the guy. I
would love for him to be a quarterback of any
team I root for. He's just such a gamer seeing
him scramble out of the pocket and I'm third and
long fourth downs and getting the first downs, and they
really made this game more competitive than the score might
have suggested. But let's talk about this Eagles team because
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you know, as they continue to win, to me, I
just don't think they're the best team in the NFC.
And I know they're number one on your power ranks,
but I'm just not sold on it yet.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
How did they change their identity little bit here?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Because I know they got up so early, but statistically speaking,
they got to start getting aj Brown and the receivers
more involved in these games.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, I mean, if you look at it, statistically, their
superstars on offense didn't have superstar kind of days outside
of Jalen Hurts, and even he was fifteen for twenty
four four, one hundred and thirty yards and two touchdowns.
But again, managing the game and doing what is necessary
to win these ball games is all that matter. Statistics
don't really matter in this respect, and I think that's
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the way the Philadelphia Eagles are playing these games. They're
not worried about putting up gaudy statistics. They targeted AJ
Brown nine times in this game. He only had two
catches for seven yards, so it wasn't for a lack
of them trying to get him the football. But I'm
sure Todd Bowles understands who AJ Brown is and they've
had some success against Jalen Hurts, and I think Jalen
Hurts might have taken that personally in this game, and
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you could see he made a lot of big plays
with his legs. They held Sakwan Barkley and check nineteen
carries for forty three yards two point three a care.
They deal what they could against Saquon Barkley, but but
they found Dallas Goddard for two touchdowns. And so again,
no matter who you stop, you stop one guy, the
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next guy wins. You stop Saquon then then Jalen Hurts
is gonna do it with his legs. You stop Saquon,
I mean, you stop Jalen Hurst. Then Saquon Barkley's doing
them out the backfield catching the football. Deavonte Smith will
catch the football. He only had two catches in his
game on four targets. But I really liked what I
saw at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I think they're they're
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a better team than than people gave them credit to
start this season. I think they obviously have won the
NFC South four years in a row, and I think
they got a good chance to win it this year.
I really like the way Baker Mayfield's playing. I think
he's playing at a top five quarterback level in the
National Football League to be able to do this without
Mike Evans, they haven't been able to win a lot
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of games with Mike Evans is not in the lineup
for obvious reasons. He's an incredible all All World Hall
of Fame talent. That's a reason he's had so many yards.
But the way Baker was moving around and finding guys
using his legs, hitting the open guy. He hit a
Mecca Abuka on a seventy seven yard touchdown off of
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scramble you know, found him thread at the needle between
two defenders. It looked like a bus to coverage. Then
he found Bucky Irvy on another seventy yard touchdown. Bucky
Irving ended up with being the lead and receiver with
one hundred yards receiving and a Mecca had one hundred
yards receiving. So again, this Philadelphia Eagle secondary can be had.
And I think that's something different than it was a
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year ago, that that's a vulnerability that wasn't as much
last year. I thought they were one of the best
secondaries in the National Football League. But when you lose
big play Sleigh and you lose you know, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
CJ.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Garter Johnson got cut from the Houston Texans, but he
fit very well in his system. He did well, he
played well, and sometimes when you lose veterans like that,
angels of dynamic and there's been more mistakes in that secondary.
But Cooper dejen looked really good. They were trying him
up at the outside corner today. He had some really
really good coverage reps against a Mecca Abuka where he
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just played at square square shoulders. Great footwork, breaking on passes.
I thought he looked in control, he looked dominant, and
I thought I thought Quinon Mitchell looked the same. I
thought he looked great in his I think there was
some next gen stat about tight window throws, and he
had the most tight window that he forced, the most
tight window throws today, one of the highest in the
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National Football League in a long time. So you have
the guys, they have talented players, but people are finding
the others. People are finding the others to attack in
this defense. They're not going at the strengths of the defense.
But again, when you have Jalen Carter and guys like that,
you're not just gonna run the football on them all
day and you're not gonna have a ton of success
on the ground. But I think it might have just
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been the weather, that the weather in Tampa is super hot,
and that it will get to him eventually, And I
think after a while it gets to everybody, and he
started to weigh on him and guys, you know, just
natural fatigue, and you start to see Baker have a
little bit more time. But I still feel like the
best team in the National Football League right now is
the Philadelphia Eagles, and until they lose, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
To It's hard to say otherwise.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Let's talk about that same division, and this is the
New York Giants. They host LA Chargers today and they
shockingly get a win in Jackson Dart's first game as
a starter, and he impressed early. I mean, you saw
his mobility. You see why they like him. He gets
in the end zone on his first first possession of
the day. This is big time for the New York Giants.
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It's been needing a quarterback for it seems like forever,
and they finally have got some life. And as soon
as they get some life, Malik Neighbors goes down with
what is you know, believed to be an ACL tear
out for the season.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I absolutely hate to see it, but you're a nit.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Show impressions on Jackson Dart in his debut today.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I thought he had a solid debut.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And you know, obviously all the online conversation about Russell
Wilson and what we said on Thursday night after he
was bench for Jackson Dart is the big story for everybody.
But you saw the way the New York Giants played,
not just offensively, not that Jackson Dart had some gaudy
numbers or you know, he went out there and lit
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the world on fire. He just played solid football. He
used his legs when he needed to. He was sacked
six times. So it's not like the offensive line got
way better between the two quarterbacks. But you saw the
energy from the other side to the football. You saw
the defensive line. I mean, they have one of the
most talented defensive lines in the National Football League, but
you saw them getting after it. Obviously, the Chargers are
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without Rashaun Slater and lost Joe early in his game.
Two of the best tackles in the National Football League.
You lose both of them. Any team that loses both
their starting tackles is going to have a hard time.
This is not the team you want to be playing
against when you lose both to the starting tackles. And
I think that was evident. Brian Burns was all over
the place, Abdul Carter was all over to play sexy
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Dex Lawrence bat it pass, intercepted, return it to the five.
They only end up getting the field goal out of that.
He if he would have tugged that, that would have
been an incredible But even on special teams, they were
making plays on special teams. They were they were playing
with a renewed energy and swagger, and for them to
play which an opponent, which which might have been their
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toughest opponent of the year, with a rookie quarterback and
come out of there with the win was incredible. And
you could see this was a little this was kind
of kind of crazy, but you could see how Brian
Dabo responded. I don't know if you saw it, Mitchell,
but there was a clip of him and Jackson Dart
after the game and he was like head button him
and they were face to phase and hit and he
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was just so excited with him, you know, so hype,
like they're gonna be doing this for a long time.
And you could just see the love and appreciation and
the belief and faith that he has in Jackson Dart
and I just don't remember him having that with Russell Wilson.
And now that's gonna start some speculation of its own, Mitchell,
because just the way Brian da Bole approached the game,
there were conversations. I think it was Connor Hughes who
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put out a video saying, you know, there was there
was two different playbooks.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And guys felt look like there were two different playbooks.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
There was a playbook that Russell Wilson had and there
was a playbook that Jackson Dart that was for Jackson Dart.
And that's weird. That's I've never heard that in the NFL.
I never you hear about packages for guys, if a
young guy might have a zone read package or something
like that. But the way they were talking about it,
it was almost like, hey, they're not giving Russell Wilson
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the full playbook, but they're giving Jackson Dart the full
playbook or vice versa.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know, it was odd, odd thing to hear.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But I thought Jackson Dart for his first start against
a defense that's been playing really lights out in some
big games, some competitive games. They've played lights out against
a lot of good opponents. I thought he played well
thirteen for twenty one hundred eleven yards a TD and
ran for TD. I think for a rook that's nice.
That's solid, especially when you get sacked six times. They'll
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play worse teams in the future. I think they played
the Saints next week, which isn't anything to sneeze that.
I think people underestimate the Saints because they've been losing,
but that defense has some guys that can go. But
I think that'll be a confidence builder. And I know
people were hesitant about day Bo's decision to play in
versus the Chargers. I think they kind of consider this
an automatical loss if he played Jackson Dart. And to
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see them play all these games, They've played three games
on the season and the only win comes when the
rookie gets on the field against a really, really talented
team that's well coached and playing well in the Chargers.
It's really cool. It's really cool. I enjoyed that for him.
I like that for day Ball. He saves his job
for another week. Hopefully, you know, they can have some
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sustained success and the Giants stick with them.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Richard, I'm gonna ask you a tough question. What does
this say about Russell Wilson. The team comes out, you know,
first week without him as a starter and gets a win,
and it gets a very tough opponent. What does this
say about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I'm not sure it says anything about Russell Wilson as
much as it says something about like new newt better.
You know, sometimes people like the new toy and not
that it's like when you get a new car. It
could be a used car, it could be just a
different car than the car you've been driving, but there's
an excitement level. There's a fun about driving a different car.
It might not even be better than the car you've
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been driving, but it's newer, it's different, it's fun. And
I think that's what guys feel when you're losing. You
just want to see something different. You just want to
see a change. Maybe they were seeing things in practice
that we're exciting, you know, maybe the kid was making
some plays. It was kind of like the Kansas City
Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes when they know everybody. They were
talking about him so much in practice and everything he
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was doing in practice, you kind of like knew eventually
they're gonna push Alex Smith out of here for some
reason or another and play this kid because the team
has talked about him too much that the excitement, the
momentum is going too much.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
And I think sometimes when you.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Have a guy sitting behind, especially a draft pick, no
matter what, it's gonna unless you have immediate success. So
unless Russell Wilson came out and won the first three
four games, the pressure to play him from a coach
that's on the hot seat was gonna be immense. And
the only way he could guarantee that he saw Jackson
Dark play and he got to coach him and got
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to at least put him on the field and see
what he had was to make this decision.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So I don't know. I think it was just the.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Team, you know, the new, the new hotness, the new,
the new guy, and then the excitement that comes with that,
the new different thing, the unknown. And now I would
only guess that the momentum continues to grow from from
Giants fans in from everybody else.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
With the first winning season, yeah, I mean, the momentum
is there. And you gotta love their draft class too.
Have Duel Carter has led all rookies with pressures on
the season. And then the running back Cam Skataboo. I mean,
this guy is made for New York football, absolute bowling ball,
all heart and hustle. At twenty five carries for almost
eighty yards today. You know, you got to love to
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see what they've done with this draft class. And there
is at least some hope for the New York Giants
going forward. Back to Russell quickly. Do you think that
he sticks with the team through the rest of the year.
Do you think they trade him? Do you think they
give him the courtesy and waive them so he can
go and sign with somebody like the Saints to continue starting, or.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
What do you think is gonna go on with him?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I would have guessed they trade him. That would be
my first guess.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
There are a lot of QB needy teams, and if
they feel like they have a chance late in the
season where they got to get enough roster and it's
just a quarterback away, you know, the natty bangles come
to mind right now, and and and or if somebody
gets hurt. You know, if somebody starter gets hurt and
they need a veteran guy and they know Russell Wilson
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can come in and make a difference, or or at
least continue to keep them on the track to get
where they think they're they're capable of getting. But I
think the Giants will try to get something for him.
I don't think they'll just trade them away for nothing.
I don't think they will release him for nothing. Maybe
if it's fast the trade deadline and a team loses
a quarterback. I think they'll do them that courtesy. But again,
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just like today, Jackson Dirt get a little banged up,
and you needed Russell Wilson to come in.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
And and and and play for a couple of snaps.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Not that Jameis Winston couldn't do that, but it would
take the right offer and and it would have to
benefit the Giants in a big way out the match.
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Speaker 3 (31:01):
Let's move on to what many would consider to be
the game of the week, one and two Kansas City
Chief Team hosting the one and two Baltimore Ravens. Both
all fans of football across the world have a lot
higher hopes for both of these teams than one and
two start. I think it's probably the biggest shocker in
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the NFL. I guess you know news circuit right now
is the fact that both these teams are one and two,
and one of them is going to be one and
three leaving this game. Ultimately, it's the Baltimore Ravens. Richard,
is it safe to say that the Baltimore Ravens are
going to miss the playoffs statistically? And I know you're
a big statistics Guy, teams that start one in three
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have approximately a fourteen percent chance of making the NFL postseason.
The Baltimore Ravens find themselves in that exact position at
one in three.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Do you see them missing the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I don't think so, But if they did to, oh
my god, it's furniture going to be moving in Baltimore.
I can't imagine what that fan base is gonna do.
I can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Obviously, that front office has been pretty stable and they've
been pretty consistent, so John Harball isn't going anywhere. But
you could see the frustration even after a couple losses,
and it's weird to just see them play without confidence
offensively after your Detroit Lions came in there. It's almost
like their shell shock. And you never see Lamar Jackson
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play where he looks where he looks hurried or rushed
or panicky. He's not seeing the field.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
He threw fo one hundred and forty seven yards a TD,
but he threw a interception in this game, and he
never looked comfortable. They only ran Derrick Henry eight times
in this ball game for forty two yards. That's not bad,
but again it doesn't look like they trust him. It
doesn't look like they trust him. He's fumbled in big moments,
but he's also been one of the most dominant running
backs in the last deck, so so I think there's
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some internal strikes in there, but they're a veteran team.
They're gonna figure it out. Mahomes through for two seventy
and four touchdowns. He looked really good dominated this defense,
and I think that's where a lot of the turmoil
will start on the defensive side of the football. Obviously,
obviously they're playing without nom Day, not a Bouquet who's
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one of their best players in a disruptor up front.
But you still got you still got guys in the
back end. Kyle Hamilton, Marlon Humphries that that should be
veteran guys that have played at a high level, that
that know that are all pros in this National Football
League who aren't playing to the level that they played
at in the past. And they gave up a lot
of points, they gave up a lot of yards in
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this game, and it's uncharacteristic of a Baltimore Ravens defense.
So that's the more disappointing part is just like man
you guys aren't playing up to the standard that the
national public is used to the Baltimore Ravens up to.
It's it's not even like, hey, we're you're not playing
to an all pro level. It's just you know, when
you go watch the Baltimore Ravens play, you expect great
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defense and they're not playing it. Or you expect Lamar
Jackson to be dynamic and be dominant, or them to
hand them all off to Derrick Henry. But for them
to have between Lamar Jackson passing and Derrick Henry is
rushing to be under two hundred yards, it's just I'm
not not something I thought we would see in a
full game, especially against the Kansas City Chiefs, who have
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a really good defense and spacks calls a great game,
but Derrick Henry and Lamar always gets theirs no matter what.
So it's really disappointing. And it's probably a shell shock
for that team to start one and three, But I
think they'll respond and come back. They're in a weaker division,
and you know with the with the Cincinnati Bengals and
without Joe Burrow and the Cleveland Browns just lost to
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your Detroit Lions and they have a great defense, but
struggling offensively Flacko with some really really head scratching interceptions to.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
But no, I don't think they missed the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
What does this win say about the Kansas City Chiefs team, Richard,
this team.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
It was like a lot.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Of the national media wrote them off and they said,
maybe this is a time that Kansas City just collapses.
Started one and two with an only win of the season,
a very unimpressive showing against the New York Giants last week.
They come in this week and it's like they took
that personal and they wanted to show They wanted to
show to everyone that they're They're still here. There's still
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the same team that goes to the super Bowl every
single year. They look dominant today. They definitely showed me,
at least that there's still somebody that you got to
be very very serious about.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Long term.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I'm assuming they might make a showing in the top
five of Richard Sherman's power ranks here soon at some
point if they continue playing like this. But what is
a win, a statement win like this show to you
about the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Well, they're a championship team. You know this reason. They've
been in the Super Bowl five in the last six years.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So I'm not writing now. I told you I'm not
writing them off. I don't care what their record is.
They could be they could be on in in six
on eight. I was still I don't know they're going
to run because they've shown that and they they have.
As long as they still have Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes,
Travis Kelce, Chris Jones, Spags, they're gonna have a chance.
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And uh Trent McDuffie is still still there playing good football.
Nick Bolton, the guys, they still have all the a
lot of the pieces on the championship team. They'll get
Rashi Rice back. That'll be a big addition to their
to their offense. Xavier Worthy obviously came back and made
an impact today. Thornton was making an impact in instead.
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They're still a team that can be very dangerous with
a quarterback who can be the best in the National
Football League when he's on. And so no, I'm not
gonna count him out, and I wasn't gonna count him
out in the first place. I still think whether they're
the one seed or the seventh seed, they're gonna be
a tough out in the playoffs and nobody wants good
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and want to play.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
You can be a dominant team like it could be
the whoever it is.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
It could be the Buffalo Bills, and they feel really
good and they get the two seed or they get
the one seed and they got to play the Kansas
City Chiefs in a divisional. If they're not gonna feel
great about that, I know they're not. It's gonna be nightmare.
It's gonna be traumatic. They're gonna have nightmares before the
game because of the history with Patrick Mahomes, and you
know how dangerous he can be. No matter how it
looked in the regular season. He's found a way. They've
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found a way, they've game planned right, they've showed up
in big moments, and they found a way to win
when winning was needed. So no, I'm not counting out
to the Kansas City Chiefs, not me unless one of
those guys goes down with the season long injury or
something crazy. And even then I have a hard time.
I'm an knock on woo because I don't want that.
Nobody in the football world does. But I think they're
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gonna have a chance and they're gonna be dangerous in
the postseason. I don't even talk about the Chiefs into
the postseason because of regular season. No matter, I don't know,
it's not gonna matter what they're seeded, They're gonna be
a tough out.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
This AFC West Division is certainly looking like it's gonna
be a tight match all the way to the finish line. Obviously,
with the Chargers losing today, we'll see how the Broncos
continue to play here. But the AFC North is we
just talked about it briefly with the Baltimore Ravens. But
you gotta look at the Steelers at some point here, Richard.
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They're three and one now with Aaron Rodgers. They go
across the plan play in Ireland, our boy, big play slaves.
Gotta be happy coming back to the US with the
w This is big time for them. And they get
a bye week and then they go to the they
play the Browns, the Bengals, and then their schedule gets
tough with the Packers and Colts. Theoretically, they should win
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their next two games and be five and one. Do
you believe in the Pittsburgh Steelers team at three to
one top of their division?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yes, I do, and The big reason is Aaron Rodgers.
I know Aaron Rodgers, and I know he's looked rough
the last couple of years. He tore his achilles and
then he you know, was coming back. But he's still
Aaron Rodgers and he still has a way about him.
DK Metcalf is starting to find his rhythm in this offense.
Aaron was an efficient eighteen of twenty two for two
hundred yards and a touchdown. In this game. Metcalf had
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five catches for one to twenty six. You could see
the chemistry between those guys developing and strengthening. You could
see him hitting him on the pack, shoulder faith, the
one step hitches, just get getting him involved. Kenneth Gainwell
had almost one hundred yards today. He had two touchdowns.
The defense had two interceptions and six sacks. And they
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were the object of a lot of scrutiny early in
this season. And for them to go all the way
over there and everybody made a big deal about their
playing and the Minnesota Vikings had all the first class
seats and a nice, super nice plane, and the Pittsburgh
Steelers rode over their old school. We getting here, how
we get in, how we live and they played like that.
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They played like hungry dolls. They chase, they chased, they
were aggressive, they were hungry.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
T J. Watt was making big impact plays. I thought
he almost well.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
He ended up having an interception in the game, but
he had a number of plays where he made huge plays,
batting the ball down, sacks, pressures, things like that. I
think this team is getting back to where they need
to be and a bye week does nothing but helped
this veteran team. It looked like Jalen Rams he got
a little banged up, maybe a little hamstring strain. So
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a week off and some rest will help him, you know,
help them get even healthier and be better when they
get back. But they're gonna be a tough, tough team.
They're gonna be a tough route than they've been in
the past. With all these veterans and Anon Rodgers at
the helm, I think he and Tomlin are getting to
know each other. There was a moment in a game
where where Aaron wanted to go for it. Tomland obviously
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wanted the points. He succumbed to what Aaron wants. They
end up getting stopped on that play and it gave
the Minnesota Vikings a chance late in the game, and
I think those are conversations. It's a great growing moment
for both both of them, but it's a growing moment
in a win, which is much better and much easier
to deal with than growing moments and losses. But I
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think that just goes to the respect that Tomlin has
for Aaron Rodgers and what he's done in this league
and big play in it. They can be a splash
play defense. There was a lot of splash plays today.
But on the other side, Carson Wentz threw for three
fifty and two touchdowns. He threw the two interceptions and
ended up being coll seed. Justin Jefferson ten catches for
one twenty six. So again, Kevin O'Connor was going to
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have a tough decision when JJ McCarthy is healthy and
ready to go because of how well Wins is running
this offense, not that it's perfect, not that it's perfect
by any means, because you know, he's taking sacks, he's
getting beat up, he's making mistakes to two interceptions, one
of them was tipped up. But he's been better than
McCarthy has been. He's been just a veteran in this offense,
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hitting the guys that are there making the players are there.
There are some high misses that he had, but I
think that's gonna be a tough tougher decision for Kevin
O'Connell than it would have been if he hadn't played
as well as he's playing.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
The Vikings are in unfamiliar territory and that's losing football games.
Were fourteen and three last year, this year they're two
and two. They don't look like the same team without
Sam Darnold, who's over in Seattle now, and like you've
mentioned a number of times, you thought it was a
mistake that they didn't bring him back, and I'm thinking
that the Minnesota fan base is probably starting to think
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that same way. Sure, Carson Wentz steps up there and
has a good statistical game, but the reality is, you know,
this doesn't look like the same Minnesota Vikings team. Let's
see if they can bounce back next week. It is
good to see Justin Jefferson getting more involved, though it
was a slow start to the year for him, but
ten receptions for one to twenty six and they're gonna
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stick over across the pond. They play in the London
next Sunday, Richard, what is your thoughts on.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
That's just rude.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
They put them in international two weeks in a row,
so they're they're sticking. They're sticking over there for another week.
I mean, do you think these these games are getting
out of hand? Like I like the fact that they're
doing them, you know in Brazil and South America, but
like these nine thirty am Eastern Times starts. I mean,
let's be real, are you jumping out of bed at
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six thirty in the morning Pacific time to flip on
a football game?
Speaker 4 (43:29):
It just doesn't seem like real football when it's at early.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I definitely jumped out of the bin and watched it today,
and I actually enjoyed it. I enjoyed dk Metcalf's eighty
yard touchdown run. I enjoyed Aaron playing well and you know,
getting a rushing, rushing first down and then fumbling in
football and then laughing about it.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I enjoyed it. It was fun. It was fun to see.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
But I would not enjoyed if I was a member
of the Minnesota Vikings and I had to fly from
Ireland to London and be away from my family for
two weeks to play the game that we've been playing
from home just to make people happy. I make international
folks happy, Like you could have another team like it,
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give us a couple of weeks break and let us
do it again.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
I think they might have a little bit of advantage
if they're already over there and they get to spend
a week in acclimate, but it's not it's negligible, you know,
whoever wakes up and is ready to go. The Minnesota
Vikings hadn't lost internationally until today when the Pittsburgh Steelers
got them, so that was something. So maybe they have
a different understanding and agreement with the league and they
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just know how to do it well. But that Brown's
defense isn't anything to play with it, it's nothing to
joke with after flag holes play. I'm not sure if
the Browns start to consider a change that quarterback potentially,
but their defense is still playing well. But I would
not appreciate that, Mitchell. I would not appreciate being international
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two weeks in a row. I mean, I'm sorry, I'd
love you know. I'm more for growing the game and
all that, but like, let me.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Go home, Richard, before we wrap things up here, We
got to just talk a little bit about Ashton Genty
that the number six overall pick goes to play for
your former head coach Pete Carroll, and everyone's just kind
of been waiting for him to break out. You've seen
kind of glimpses here and there. I think the statistic
was he had more yard rush yards after contact than
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he did rushing yards. I want to say it was
something like it was one for one. So this guy
was getting hit in the backfield all the time. They
finally gave him some running lianes today to work with,
and he showed why he was picked number six overall,
going for one hundred and thirty eight yards and three touchdowns,
one receiving or two receiving and one rushing. That's a
big deal for him. Unfortunately, the Las Vegas Raiders do
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not pull off the win. They go down in similar
fashion to what we saw last week numerous times with
block field goals again rears itself today.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
Richard, what's the deal with all these block field goals?
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I don't know. I don't know. That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Some of it is just offensive lines not being as
strong as they used to be and not being able
to sustain against some of these stronger defensive linemen. Some
of it is these corners timing it up well and
and that simple hand release tactic that most field goal
teams use is predictable and sometimes they switch it up,
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but if you guess you're right and you time it right.
It seems like more and more teams are taking that
risk and going forward and guessing right. And that's just
what happened today. The Bears were able to block one
and that's saved the game for them because if the
Raiders make that field goal, they win that football game.
So big win for the Bears. Tragic loss for the Raiders.
But shout out to Ashton Genty, big run, big rush
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yards today, three touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Happy for the kid. Hat tip to the kid. He
deserves it.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
You know, he's been getting a lot of scrutiny and
a lot of He's a bus, he's a bus conversation,
so it's great to see him have some success.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Always happy to see that the Bills are four and
on now.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I'm not sure are they hitting shoulders above every other
team in the AFC?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I'm not sure, but Josh Allen gives him that advantage.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Like without Josh Allen though they're not, but they have
Josh Allen, and he's the MVP, reigning MVP of the
National Football League, and so he's getting them over the top.
This game against the Saints was closer than it probably
needed to be, but again, Josh Allen decided I don't
want it to be that close anymore, and he took
over the game, made huge plays, showed that he's the difference.
He's the gap between the next teams and the AFC,
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and not that he's a greater quarterback than everybody else,
but his team, for his team and what he needs
to do, he's playing outstanding football and he's putting them
over the top. And I don't think there's a team
in the AFC better than them. I'm not sure they
won't go undefeated, because no team goes undefeated, but they're
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gonna be a tough, tough team to beat consistently, especially
when they're playing in Buffalo. But yeah, I think they're
the best team in AFC. I'm not sure if they're
heading shoulders, and I don't think they're better than Philadelphia Eagles.
If I'm if I had to, if you put a
gun to my head today and ask me, I think
the Philadelphia Eagles are a better team, and which is
why they are one and two of my power rankings.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
There you go, wow, we can get to three, four
and five later because I know we got some other
guys you have to play here, specifically the Green Bay Packers,
who are on the cusp of your top five.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
I know.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Before we leave this, Richard, the quote of the day
comes from cam Ward of the Tennessee Titans. He was
asked about what they thought about his team, and he said,
if we keep it a buck right now, we're asked,
I mean, do you appreciate this candor for him or
do you think he needs to kind of you think
this is out of line.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
It's not out of line. It's just honesty from a quarterback.
But his team isn't good enough overall. And so if
this was a veteran team, a team like if he
was playing for the Minnesota Vikings and they were a
fourteen win team last year and they just aren't playing
good and they've lost a couple of games, you can't
say it, and the veterans aren't gonna allow you to
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say it. And you're not perfect enough, you don't have
the credibility to say it, and so I think that
speaks to the point you got to have the credibility
with great play. You know, all pro quarterbacks, all Pro players,
super Bowl winners, guys that are established in this league,
they can say things like that. If Aaron Rodgers came
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out and said, hey, we played like ass today, we
played a crap. We got to be better than that.
It's Aaron Rodgers, four time MVP, Super Bowl champion. You're
not gonna be able to say much to him. If
Tom Brady comes out and says it, if Matthew Stafford
comes out and says it again, they have credibility. When
you're a rookie quarterback, you know, although you were the
first pick in the draft, I don't think you can
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and get away with saying that without ruffling feathers in
your locker room because because they're betteran guys.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Sure, it's not going your way right now.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
You've lost three games, You've played the Rams, the Broncos,
and you just lost to the Colts a division loss,
and then you lose this game. So sure you could say, hey,
we're not playing very well right now, but saying it
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that way it capsulates the whole team. And that's it.
That's the mistake. As a quarterback. You have to say,
I'm not playing good enough right now, and it sucks
because even if you feel like you are playing good enough.
That's the responsibility the quarterback has. That's the leadership. That's
all the things you talk about from great quarterbacks. You say, hey,
this is on me. I got to play better. There's
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some things I can do to put my teammates in
better positions to win the football game. I'm going to
go back to the drawing board, study the tape and
see what we can do better. But this is a
frustrating feeling right now to not play up to the
standard that we know where capable of. But we'll get
back to it next week. We'll plush this one and
get back to the drawing board. That's all you gotta say.
That's all you gotta say. You can't say. You can't
(51:09):
say that because you're the leader of the team and
you're the voice of the team. And when you say that,
you piss other guys off. Were like, I'm playing well,
I'm playing hard. I'm doing my job. And if you
maybe you did your job, then you know, then you
start to get the finger pointing and it starts to
tear locker room apartmental So you can't be careful with that,
young camp Well Richard.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
That concludes a week four's Sunday Night recap.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
I will let you sign us off, my friend.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
As always, it's been a nice week. I'm sorry for
the San Francisco forty nine ers faithful fans. It was
a rough one. It was a rough one. They got
to play better than that, and they will play better
than that. I can't wait to see you guys on
Thursday night. I will be there in LA for Thursday
Night Football. Check us out TNF tonight starting four pm
Pacific until the game starts at five fifteen Pacific time.
(52:00):
It's going to be a fantastic division game. I can't
wait to see you there. For all you other fans,
congratulations on your teams winning or keep hope alive. If
your team lost today, it ain't over yet. It's a
long season and you never know what can happen. This
is the NFL. As always, we appreciate you joining us.
You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here
with us, and we sure do appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
All.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
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