Richard Sherman Podcast - Reaction to 49ers drama, Seahawks future & Steelers Add Rodgers + Ramsey - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And I know
it's been a while, but there's gonna be some changes
this year. Every single week we're gonna have my guy,
Big Play Slave on the show to co host with
me discuss Pittsburgh Steelers, the league, cornerback play, whatever's going on,
Big Play, talk to him.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
What's up everybody? Man, As y'all know, Man, I'm here
with my boy, Sharon. Man, I'm proud of you on
the show. Looking forward to it. Man, it's gonna be
a great year for us. Man, So we finally got
this thing going. Man, at least we could connect in
some kind of way.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
No question, no question, we gotta connect. But we got
big news already. Let me see that ring. You know
that thing looked like a mountain.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Come on, now, you know you know it.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
You know it's ill.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
You know, finally got You had to go get that, boy.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Yeah, you had to. You had to feel good, don't it?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Man? Look feel better than winning?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Better? It makes the winning feel real and like legit.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Look jit, legit, I'm talking about just watching it and
then man, you put that thing on your finger. I
went home with it, man, I had the whole city
looking at Marine.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
How how was the ceremony I was How was all that?
Seeing of gods?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I mean, the summer was good.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I had some mixed emotions in there, man, just seeing
my guys.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Man, every coach, everybody that came to me that's in
the front offer there like man slavery witty Rish, she
was here and you know but uh, you know, the
business part of it is the business part of it, man,
that's goa always be home. Uh. I appreciate the Philly
organization for sure, you know so. Uh I'm always thankful
for him.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Man, that's it. You know what I'm saying, thankful because
they I'm champed.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I'm a champing if.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Y'all want me there, and then y'all don't let me
walk away there. Y'all wanted me there. It's so bad
than God damn it. Give me a little little change
and I'll be right there with the Philadelphia Eagles number two,
number two on my chest. But you know, y'all don't
want it that bad. You know, everybody say how bad
they want it. You know, when you're gone, Oh man,
we showed, we showed you wish you. We let you

(01:57):
get away, but but you let me get away.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, man, you know. But it's all good, man,
it's all love. It's no hard feelings at all. Right,
for sure, I can't be no hard feeling after the
super Bowl win, Yeah, I'm in a good note. Now
we would have lost the super Bowl probably been.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Hot, right right, Well, let's talk about your new team. Then.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Let's talk about your new team because you're in Pittsburgh now,
Pittsburgh stealing big place slave.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Uh, y'all got a Rod.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Now, there's a lot of speculation in the off season,
whether he was coming to Pittsburgh, whether he's not coming.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
You know, he decided he's retiring. Tell me how that's been.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Obviously, you guys have gone through OTA's in Mini camp,
and and there's always this this kind of I don't
know this, this I don't know this, this understanding and
and and kind of perception of what a Rod is
and who he is as a player, who he is
as a person.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
How has he been to you? Man't been great? Man?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
You know, he came to at the mini camp, you know,
so we had a couple of days just to hang
around and talk about and man if he had to
host his own little team meeting himself, man and talk
to the team and let us know, like, hey, man,
he's all in. He's looking forward to winning, and he's
always been, you know, competitive, and he always loved his
Pittsburden nation of the fact of how they fans, traveling
and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
So he loved to play for this kind of organization.
So it's been good, man, he's been a good dude.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
And for him coming in, definitely me and him as
veterans on both offense and defense, I can get some
knowledge off to these young guys, man, because h you know,
this is something new for the Stealers, because Stills ain't
been this type of type of guys in a minute,
you know, making these big trads and these type of
big signings, and you know we're looking forward to winning.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, and then on top of that, you got that,
but then you got TJ. Watt signing a record deal.
I mean what three years, one hundred and twenty million dollars.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Let me hold something.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I'm talking about telling you, man, I made he made
in three years. He probablynna make more than what his
brother was. And his brother was really that dude too.
So and that's what's crazy.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
That boy.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's some money and.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Which he deserves because he is arguably the best player
defensive player in this league. And so I'm happy for
it because it dudes me justice because I need him
getting after that quarterback like asa he no question.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Then then you talk about Cam Hayward had it all
pro season last season, another great veteran presence. Uh, then
you look up and you see thinking the secondary, you
got Joey Porter Junior, you got Minka Fitzpatrick, But then
then you don't got Menka Fitzpatrick and and all of
a sudden you got Jalen Ramsey and and uh, have
you had a chance to connect with him? And you know,

(04:22):
I remember you saying, y'all used to have a group
chat or something. How has that been?

Speaker 4 (04:26):
It been good? Man?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Me and him been chatting the whole time, and not
knowing like I had a feeling that he was getting
traded to us, but not knowing what the trade was.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
So u uh he called me a day before. Man,
we're just chopping up like, hey, man, slay, how it
is over there? Just giving him the updates. And then
you know, like, man, it's good over here, man, you know,
just hard work. You know, the guys been able to
learn and da da this, and you know, give him
a litle bootprint. I know because I'm new just as
much as he knew.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
So uh.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
But when I saw the trade go through, I'm thinking
at first it was just it just like some draft
picks or something. I thought it would be me and him,
Mika all us back then I'm like, I look, hill boy,
it gonna be crazy. Then I've seen the final results, like, okay,
this is a little different, like you.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Know what I'm saying. So I'm just looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know, I've met megap for a couple of times
down there.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Man, he's a he's a man, smart player.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Man. He is what Pitts Burden nation. It is for
sure because it definitely being in that building. Man, he's
ten toes down, He comes to work, he leads by example.
So he was a great, great little teammate for me
for the six days I was there around there. So
I was looking forward to seeing it because I've been
my real truth first time actually coming in with another

(05:36):
All Pro at that safety position in staate of that guy.
I kind of earned it with already. You know, I
earned it with GQU and shoot, that's really it. That's
my only All Pro safety. I played with GQ, and
I played with the Pro Bowl and the Quandary Diggs.
But a guy that was already fully established, that knows
the game, that's done been there. This is gonna be
my first All Pro. But now you know, I replaced

(05:56):
him with another All Pro. And I feel like it's
one of the best in the game. Well that's Jalen Ramsey.
So it's gonna be great.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Man.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
You know, I get to play alongside another All Pro.
It's gonna be my first time doing this. So right,
I'm looking forward to it. Man, I'm excite it. And
you know, and we go see what we gonna do.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Man, Yeah, that's that's for sure what we're gonna do.
We gonna see what it's gonna do. Because that that's
a lot of stuff in that corner room. And you know,
with them trading for Minca, it makes me feel and
and you know, just outside looking in, and I don't
got no insider information that Jalen's gonna have a role
at safety and Nickel and play it like that and

(06:31):
maybe they bring a safety in on nickel downs and
he bumps down to the nickel out of the safety position.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
But you got Joey Porter Jr.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Who's who's been there and and and established himself as
the starter in Pittsburgh. Then you come in with it
with an all pro like yourself and all pro like
Jalen Ramsey. I'm interested to see how he responds both
mentally or or you know, outwardly. And because you you
gotta respect it. You gotta respect the talent that they
brought in the old heads and it you if you

(07:00):
receive it right. I think there's benefit there. You know,
you bring two all pros at your position. You soa
key a knowledge. You become a better player, You elevate
your game, you elevate your practice habits, you elevate your
your film study habits. You learn things you couldn't have
learned otherwise because you've just been learning from yourself. You
had Pat Peterson there a couple of years ago when
he was young.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
He had he had Pat.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
There, so I'm sure he soaked up knowledge there. But
you got two more coming in, so you know, I
it's it's one of them years for him where it's
a contract gear money on the line. You're only signed
for a one year deal, so you know, if he
if he handles this right, this could go really well
for him. But you know, young dudes sometimes don't handle
things like this right and and it ends up being

(07:43):
a detriment. And I don't think that's gonna affect you
are Ramsey, because you guys are pros. You guys are pros, pros.
You guys have been been in this game long enough. Hey,
y'all gonna show up, trap your cleats up, go out
there and put on the show.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Come on, now, he he ain't nothing to it, just
to go out there and just pla man. So like
I said, it ain't ain't none been in. You know,
I've been challenged before. I got guys that come in.
I had draft picks coming in that's supposed to be
replacing the sleigh.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
All that is is to say, man, I'm here to
give you the knowledge.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I'm always gonna be competitive, but I'm a competitive in
a way of just like helping you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I'm not here to like down play nobody.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
I'm not here to sit here and sign helping the
kid get great and none of that That's not how
I operate, because that's not how I was done. So
I'm here to give him everything every tutor and the
best man wins or whatever. How would we do it?
I don't know how the packages go. Look, I don't
know what Jayla.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Man doing exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Is you coming out there and you're saying, hey, who
you want me to cover any cover?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, that's it. I'm just there. You know what I'm saying.
I'm here a doperd thing.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
You got familiarity with this defense and it's coordinated though.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, yeah a lot.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Man.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know that was my DC. Uh and Detroit, you know,
gave me my first all pro. You know, he's considered
as basically one of the corner of the gurus for me. Uh,
he kind of like set me down. And I was
in his reet room every day almost with him and
the dB coach learning. They taught me how to study feel,
They taught me a lot of things. So man, you know,
I'm like his first little young prota j for his

(09:05):
first defensive coordinator. And uh, you know I panned out
very well. And uh and he always called me top five,
top five, top.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Five, top five slat saying he ain't fine, yeah, yeah,
so that's my dude.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Man.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
So I'm looking forward to get away with Ta me
and man be fun. It could be fun. I know
one thinks about Ta Man. He gonna make sure we
have some fun.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
No question about that. And speaking of fun, training camp
starts this week. I don't know a lot about Pittsburgh's
training camp. All the training camps I had worked on site,
you know what I mean. We we in Seattle, were
in Seattle, We San Francisco, We right there at the
stadium doing training camp. It's Pittsburgh's in Pittsburgh, are you know?
I remember they said Tomlin goes to some camp from
college or something.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Man.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Look they said we go to somewhere called It looked
like a Harry Potter world.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
So I'm like, I remember me going down there.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
You know when my first joint practice I've ever had
was in what four point fifteen, went down there, and
uh when the we went in a little crazy like
D two school or something like that, and they had
doing rooms and all that. Yeah, so I heard Wes
in doing rooms and and all kind of crazy stuff.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
So I'm like, this is going wait, this is probably
worse than college. How this sounded you know what I'm saying.
But it's all good though.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Man, that's a tradition they have, and hey, you know,
I'm here to buy it all in and whatever it
needs done, I'm there to get to work in because
no matter the location whereas that, hey, we're here to
get better and win games.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
So that's the really thing that's only matter.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
I'm excited. I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
You know, we're gonna be checking in with your on
training camp and seeing how that goes.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
That dynamic we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
You know, you can't give us too much inside of information,
but if I see any anything rumbling or anybody saying
anything in the media, I'm gonna have to ask.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I already know, you already know. I already know. Man,
already know, sir.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
So hey, believe me, I'm a bit I'm gonna be
here to tell you, oh, be here to tell you.

Speaker 2 (10:51):

Speaker 3 (10:52):
But hey, I know that's all waiting on this switch
to switch. There's a lot of drama going on in
San France right now. All the fel like its drama
every other year, like really every year, I'm not even
going to say every other It seems like somebody always
want big money, and I know y'all just gotten rid

(11:12):
of traded a big money guy. So the guy that
was behind hi wont big money because he do a
lot of dirty work. And I feel I got a
lot of respect from man. So man, Jennis, like he
won a new contract or be traded. Like how you
feel about that right now?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's said, Man, it's sad because not because of Juwan.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Juwan deserves what he deserves.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
And he put on a had almost a thousand yards
last year, seventy seven catches, did a great job, does
a great job, separating, doing all the dirty work, run blocking,
past blocking, like hey, whatever, whatever needs to be done,
he's willing to do. And I think he would thrive
if he was a number, you know, two receiver for
somebody and really getting targets like the way he deserves.
Like I think most of the time he got his

(11:54):
high targets when most guys were out, you know, and
he's the only guy there. Then he got ten eleven
catches and he looks the part. He's making big catches
third and Juwan he's the guy that he used to
go to on third down.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Anyway. After Kendrick Bourne.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Left but it does seem like this has just set
precedent for the forty nine ers, because every year somebody's
done it. You know, whether it's whether it was when
when Big Trent, Big Trent wanted more money and he
deserves it best tackling football, and then he held out
and did what he had to do to get his money.
Nicholas john Bosa coming off a defensive player or yeah,

(12:29):
coming off a Defensive Player of the Year, needed my money.
That set out, did what he had to do, got
his money. Brandon Ayuk last year. And so when you
continue to have guys do that and have success, you know,
and get what they what they're asking for, it's gonna
embolden other guys to be like, oh, well, if it
worked for them, might as well.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Try, my love, might as well, might as well try?
I mean, why not y'all folding?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, And that's the hard part, because you're gonna have
to put your foot down somewhere with someone and you
don't just want to be the guy. It's like playing
musical chairs and being a guy standing up on the
music stop.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah, you can see that happening.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Though.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
They got to put a foot down for somebody.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Because that's the fact is if guys feel like they're
producing in a higher level, they can always stand ten
toes down. So somebody will be example. And I feel
like they might be him, just to the fact.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
But I think they might. I think they might do something,
you know. I don't think they give him any more money.
I think they may take some of the money from
the year two and try to push it forward, so
they could try to at least appease him a band aid,
you know, push the issues back.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
They got a lot of dead money this year.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
They'll have more money next year when some of these
dead money big contracts come off the books. But I
think you gotta do something, you know, because you do
not want another distraction kind of just lingering on into
the season.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, because y' they don't set the tone already a
page a quarterback and the page the tight end. You
already got your running back, got your left tackle, got
your middle linebacker you just paid.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Do you got the corner you just paid?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
So they doesn't start to set their tone to make
sure they're going to be a championship team. But you
got this distraction coming in here with another guy want money.
It's just like come on, y'all life. They go get
to a point of the team will be like, hey, man,
that's playball. I know everybody want any money, but people
trying to win too as well.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
So people trying to win, and that's where it's It's
it's tough because I know the fans are fatigued by it,
you know, because they're just like, man, when is enough enough,
Like when we're gonna just have an off season where
guys just show up and play. But this is a
it's an NFL. You know, Juwan Jennings played really well
last year and he just wants to be compensated for him.
I'm not mad at that, but it's just what comes
with the business of football. You know, everybody understands the

(14:39):
front office side of business.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
This is the.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Player's side of business, like, and he's standing on what
they call business, and so you gotta you gotta respect it.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
You got to.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
And we're gonna speak on big money because you saw
Sauce Gardner got his money. Highest paid corner in the
National Football League. Congratulates the Sauce Gardner deserved all your money,
played well to first team All pros in your first
two seasons. What are you thinking of this deal slag.
I mean, I remember when we were fighting for fourteen
fifteen million. You was the highest played at sixteen point seven.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Come up, Look that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I'm like, I was scratching a calo for that, and boy,
and that was like what four years ago, and I'm
talking about they done double that thing. I mean about
double I'm talking about I went from sixteen, they going
to thirty. I'm like, goodness, boy, just can we just
go back in time five more years for me to
be making thirty?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, look, I can only imagine what you would have
been asking for right now.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Back to Jesus more, I'm talking about thirty five. We
might with a set history as being a cornerback. That
might be the highest non paid quarter quarterback.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah, look, I would have loved that.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
But that's the stuff that I get frustrated when people
go back in history and they talking about me or
my game. I had twenty picks in my first three years,
Like that wasn't I got mad. We was even negotiating that.
To negotiate table, I said, what are we talking about here?
You find somebody who could have done more than what
I did? Like you you find that twenty picks in Like,
how many games did I play? Twenty six games? Yeah,

(16:12):
something like that. Like I did what you needed me
to do. We won a super Bowl with number one defense.
I led the league interceptions, Like you tell me something
more I could have done with what y'all tell me
to do. Y'all tell me who to cover, where the cover.
I do the job at a high level. And that's
what Sauce did. That's why he got his money. And
that's big time.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, and he got that with three picks. You talking
about you know what I'm saying, You talking about twenty.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Right three three?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Look, look it's a different game though, Hey, and I
know that people gonna mention that. But you know he's
not getting targeted time. But he also drops him and
the Sauce you gotta use. You gotta catch man, he
gotta catch. We gotta get them hands in order.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Now he's a little brother man, you know, so he
been I've been watching him from afar and in person
because I'm not playing in Detroit. Man, I went to
his high school a bunch of time watching him play live.
H's been at one of my little camps. If you're
having hosting his little skinny six one to six one dude,
skinny probably by the bucket and look like out there,
I'm like, look, yeah, I don't know what you're doing,

(17:09):
but you need to eat. But man, you know watching
him now, you know, on the high here is the
highest paid corner the league. Man watching him do his thing. Man,
I'm so thankful for man to be just some good
mentor to him. And you know, he's one of the
best in this game right now. So he's doing his thing. Man,
he doing his thing. I'm happy for him. Man, I'm
very happy for him.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I always loved that about you, Like the way you go,
you know what I mean, back to the trenches. You're
watching these kids in high school and you're going to
work out with him at parks and dirt fields and
you know what I mean, getting it out the mud.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
That's old school.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's old school, man. That's how I was traised, man,
old school love. Man, that's how gotta do it. Man.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I just think a lot of guys that's had that profession. Man,
I know it can be unsafe. It can't be.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Because what it is in this world right now.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
But I feel like guys like us can be very
impactful to the younger kids in this generation that's playing
this sport, because like, I ain't see that coming up,
so me going to stay it isn't just knowing that.
Hey man, I'm human just like y'all, and I'm gonna
work just how y'all need to work. And I'm gonna
show y'all you know how to get there.

Speaker 2 (18:06):

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Some people's blessed enough to be talent enough to get there,
but at least you got a chance to, you know,
attempt and.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Know what it would look like to get there, no question
about it, no question. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I'm sure them kids appreciate it, and they gonna go
back and maybe give back to the next generation because
of what you did for them. I mean, that's the
way it should be. Speaking of corner play, there's some

(18:38):
good corners out there playing right now. And I know
Saus just got paid, but who are your top five
corners in the National Football League?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Right you know?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
You know, I gotta go off with the with the
defensive play of the year for the show Man and
you know impasser tam ab and watching him from a
loan from loan like that.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Man.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
That's nice.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
He nice, But I feel like the most gifted one
for the show out the bunch is this guy right here,
and he's in Houston, Texas.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know what I said, Stanley, now sting Stingley got that.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
He might be the most gifted one out of the
bunch man just for the fact that he reminded myself
with the sharn elite ball skills. I appreciate that, you
know what I'm saying. The one that can just really
attack the ball at every angle. See the ball can
turn to the receiver within a matter of seconds. You
know it took me a minute to turn to receive.
I think dB all time ball down. He thinking his

(19:28):
minds now his mine.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'm thinking, I'm thinking catch it until I ain't got
no choice. Yeah, but I think certain is one of
the most technically sound corners to play. I mean in
the game in general, not just this decade or anything.
I mean, you look at this tape and compared to
any of the greats, anybody like anything. I'm not saying
he got the interceptions that that that Charles Woodson.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
God with sixty five or all.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
That, But when you look at the tape and you
talk about how you should be playing press and what
you look the patience. He shows his off coverage, his
his pedal, his transition out of the pedal, his his
his uh stem and weave you like, boy, this boy
looked like he in the park by himself, just drilling
on cones. Except this real game situation.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Hey, that's the privilege of having a first round dad,
even in the backyard pilling Cincinnati was in the league,
man that And you know to shout out to Pat
tartan senior man for really getting your boy right, man,
because your boy liked that.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Your boy is like that.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
And then you talk about Stingley he got he got
just such a natural feel, ball skills, the technique, catching
in space like he's got it all. He continuing to
chase past her ten. Then you got Salt Sauce play
playing at a really high level. When New York got
all the eyes on him, all the scrutiny and everything
he's been dealing with, especially with Aaron Rodgers being there

(20:51):
and solid and the issues they've been dealing with. He's
looking forward to With that money comes expectations, though, Sauce,
they gonna they are going to be you drop interceptions,
it's gonna be prime time new It's gonna be headline news.
You go through and you have a zero interception year
and you give up a touchdown, they gonna make you
feel it. So yeah, with New York, no question. With
big money comes big responsibility. But I know he's ready

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for it. Who are some of the other corners you
think are are up and coming? I mean we talked
about the three three obvious ones, and stay away from
the teammates. We ain't going with your bias teammates and
your new teammate.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Hey, I'm be you know what I'm Saying'm gonna leave
my teammates out of because I'm show think they all
my dogs, so they all gonna be taught guys too
as well. But a guy else that's coming up, man,
that that's that's contract coming up to as well. So
I ain't gonna be like, I'm not gonna be surprised
if he surpassed it, depending on how the organizations is,
you know what I'm saying, because they win championships, so whatever,
that boy, Trent mndefine, you know what I'm saying, he's

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been all over the field, man, and he plays nickel,
he travels, he does it all. He started off as
a nickel and made all pride a nickel. Then he
went outside to play corner, made all pro as a corner.
You know what I'm saying. He's up there, and I
ain't gonna be surprised he not the next highest paid corner.
They get his deal done because he's nets.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Up, no question. I mean, it's it's a lot of
young guys playing.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Well. You got Christian Zalas out there in New England.
You got Witherspoon out here in Seattle, you got yeah,
I mean, Joe we We we sleeped on Jalen Johnson
out there out in Chicago, you know what I mean,
was playing.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
And j C.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Horn. You know jac Horn, he coming along too. So
it was a bad wave. We had a bad badge
of corn. At one point in time, we had a
bad bunch of you know, we had a couple of
that's that sprinkle a little bit. But these last about
three years, it's been some real real deal corners coming
into this draft. And I'm talking about ones that's deserving
as a first round draft picks or your early second

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round draft picks. They're all panting out like crazy, you know.
They So I feel like the staff is doing a
great job right now and finding these corners because the
what's coming out to him playing.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
I think so too. And they're playing well early. They're
playing well early.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
In the to come in at the today starters and
be dominant.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
And we didn't even mention your boy Quinn y'all mete
out there in Philly, who was out there super Bowl
for rookie year starting.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, I'm from about doing it and getting that three,
you know.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
So he goa be up next too, And I told them,
I'm telling him all the time, like, hey, we loove,
you came at a perfect time.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
You're doing your thing. You start off hot.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
All you gotta do is they climb every year. Just
climb every year. And he gonna do that, man, because
you got to work there. So he gonna be one
of the best ones.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Too, coming up, no question, no question about it.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Hey, I know one thing about you because I've been
watching you for the longest, and you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
You don't like these you.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Know, these coaches, and that because you prefer to be
the players to be the scouts. You prefer the players
to be all these stuff that rank these guys because
we go against something and all that, and they just
put out the dog on top ten quarterbacks and of
course Da Mahomes at one, Alan at two, Borrow at three,
Lamart for no, Jayden Daniels that five, Stafford six, Herbert

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Golf Hurts, and Baker Mayfield. That's the top ten right now.
I know you don't like that because you you they
be having stuff all wrong.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
You know, I ain't within a meeting.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
I don't like him meeting, Yeah, I mean I don't.
I don't dislike him.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
But like obviously the top three, top four, top five
probably are gonna be you know, your preference.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Like there's some people that's gonna put.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Lamar at one, some people gonna put Burrow at one.
You know, my homes is deservedly sold. The m v P,
the Super Bowl, MVPs, the winning, the just constant like
inevitability you feel when when you see him play teams.
Obviously your Philadelphia Eagles took him behind the woodshed in
the in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Uh made him made him look really bad.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah ye yah yeah yeah yeah yeah so so again,
but so some people gonna use that game to drop
him a little bit, and so I can I can
see why they put Jaydon Daniels. They're taking his team
to the NF Championship in his rookie year, a team
that wasn't expected to do a ton, wasn't expected to
have more.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Than single digit wins.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
The only person I have a problem really being on
this list is the only person who hasn't you know,
outside of Baker Baker. Mayfield as well hasn't been to
a championship game. At least you look at this, you say,
Mahons multiple Super Bowls, Josh Allen's been to AFC Championship games.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Burrow's been to a Super Bowl, Lamar.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Has been to the AFC Championship game, Jaydon Daniels NFC
Championship game, Herbert's won one playoff game. Golf has been
to a Super Bowl with the Rams, you know, play
played in big time games. Hurts just won a Super Bowl,
been to been to another. Mayfield hasn't you know what
I mean? I don't know if I would put Mayfield

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at that tenth spot. You know, again, I'm a brock
Purty guy, so that's probably who I would have put
in that tenth spot. But I could see why Mayfield
got there with the season he had last year with
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was playing really high level
of football, really doing a great job with with Mike
Evans and Chris Godwin before he got injured and really
you know, elevating that offense to the point that that

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he deserves recognition.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
But Herbert has all the tools. He got all the tools,
he got them all.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Now he looked fantastic.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
He looked six four six five two thirty, can run
like like the win beautiful arm accuracy is there.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
But the excuse is keep stacking up for him.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
You know, every year it's like he doesn't have got
enough help, or this happened, or somebody went here, or
the coach and it's this, and it's that, and it's
like it's getting to the point. You got you got
an established coach. Mm they're getting you some weapons. Lab
McConkie had a pretty solid year of rookie. But he'll
get better. They'll get you more weapons. But you gotta

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win playoff games. You gotta win in this league. And
I know you're in a tough division with mahoones in
that division. You know you got to deal with Mahmes
Denver's getting better, and that defense when Denver is always
top five, but you gotta win. Yeah, and so people
keep putting I'm just thankful they're not putting Trevor Lawrence
in there no more, like, because that that's the kind
of stuff that gets you get me questioned in y'all credentials.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Like, that's the what you can get me with every time.
That's what we're making the executives bad. Like, hey, bro Chuck, lads,
come on, he yeah, yeah, I know, he.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Got to put it on tape, like, but he I
didn't got too many coaches five, Yeah, he.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Got too many five.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Now he got some good ones five he got we
got a Super Bowl champion coach five.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
So right, come on, it ain't him, it can't be.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
And you got the weapons.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Brian Thomas is what looks like he's gonna be one
of the best receivers in the National Football League if
he gets consistent quarterback play. Uh, they just got you
Travis Hunter, who likely played both ways but make an
impact on offense as well.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
And so.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
At some point you got to start to look at
him and say, hey, y'all paying this man over, what are.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
You getting fifty five fifty.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Y'all giving him top five quarterback money, but the top
five quarterback play ain't matching it.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
But that's the story for a different day.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
You know, everybody in Duvall get mad when I talk
about him, But the tape say what it's saying. They
say what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Hey, hey, I'll witch you with you right now, I'll
witch you with that right Because I'm over here looking
at the list too, I was like, all, it's some
people can be for sure move. I feel like Hurts
can easily move to to fire Stafford. I think Stafford
could be easily stuck at sixty people. It's just well,
if you feel like your preference.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
He's not he's Stafford. Staff could go.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Look Stafford could play at as close to as top
three as any of these dudes. And in that game
against y'all, he gave you everything you can handle.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Like, look, we were thinking like we already knew it.
That it.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
We're like, hey, this is the only team that's possibly
can beat us.

Speaker 2 (28:50):

Speaker 3 (28:50):
That's the only team and nobody else we felt's in
the NFC can beat us. But dumb boys there because
the staff ware he's capable of doing like. He's not
a guy that gets shy of when turnovers happened to him.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Oh I don't care.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
I'm gonna come back here it again, like the same throw.
He'll throw it again. Like you've been to pick a
pick an out route, but he'll throw out rocked six
more times. You better pick it six times in the row,
then you know what I'm saying. That's one thing about
Stafford Man. He not he's not a gun shot.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
He's ready.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
He's competitive, tough, tough minded dude, and you know he
knows what takes to win.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
And definitely the playoffs. He don't care about the stackson the.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Playoffs, No, he don't.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
And if Jalen Carter I talked to the sat Quan
about that, if Jalen Carter don't make that play late
in the game, and from what I understood, he faked
the stunt and got himself free and did to some
real like just individual talented. Hey, hey, hats off to
Jalen Carter made a play. If he don't make that play,

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it looked like they had something developed that that could
have made that a lot more interesting of a finish.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I'll just say that.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
I'm telling you right now that play is crazy because
that's played with so Seth j C. That's Jalen j
C had came in. There was like a uh, he faked.
He did the first stunt and got the sack off
of it, and he faked it and he got that
one off of it. I said, both SATs officer that sunt,
but one of them did it for his whole way
next week. He faked it because they've been They did
it like three times and got it and Nolan got

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sacked off of he got a sack off of it,
and then they finished do it again.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Faked it.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
I said, oh, thank goodness because I saw it. I
saw the action like I'm like, oh, we look like this.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Little option route and even the way it was coming
back to the mineral field.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, it would have been ugly.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Then then it would been like, oh, slave fault because
the fact that I got us all the way down
there with the out one up, it'll be oh yeah,
everything would have been on me for a second. But
then I made up the last of the last play
of the game, and no question, I think hurts for
show though should be moved like the maybe five, you know,
because the fact that four years full super Bowl appearance.
I mean, folks, playoffs appearances too, super Bowl appearances one.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
One of super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Uh, you know you got just you gotta just involved
him winning, you know what I'm saying. I can see
how people feel about the talent aspect of just how
his statue look at. He's six three like all these
guys that's coming in here, or he a magician as
in Mahomes as everybody says.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
But from winning standpoint, you gotta have him top five.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, I think so too. I think you could easily
make an argument for Burrow being one. Yeah, you know,
and I think I think if you if you went
back in axis executives and they took their bias to side,
and you said, hey, I don't care if you the
Baltimore Ravens. I don't care if you're the Buffalo Bills.
I don't care if you outside the Kansas City Chiefs.
I think the Kansas City Chief's picking my homes over

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everybody every single time, and they not even having a
question of conversation about it. I think that's true. But
I think from Buffalo, y'all love Josh Allen. But if
somebody said Burrow and Lamar it would be a conversation,
and you can't just sit there and be like, hey, no,
there's no question, there's no way we would ever take
anybody else over him, Like that's just biased, because it's not.

(31:53):
It's not anybody heading shoulders above anybody like Lamar Jackson
is one of them ones and Joe Burrow it's one
of them ones. Every time. They just can't stop a
nose bleed on defense, Like they refuse to pay anybody.
They so bad on defense. They drafted a dude in
the first round. He said, I don't want to come
to play, and he said, I'll go back to college
before I play for y'all.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
That's that's what's the crazy part.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Man.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
They got to get to Joe Man some defensive help man,
because buy look here, they tried.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
They look. They don't want to man, they don't know
why they want to pay that young man.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Pay that man his money. Man, pay the man in
his money.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
But Joe Man, he easy would have been MVP if
he had at least made it to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
But the fact that he made it to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
And I mean we saw him live a couple of
times and him and Jamar Chase and t Higgins and
everybody else.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Boy, they hey, he it's it's art. It's art what
that man does.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
He's out there dissecting defenses and these are you know,
at that point, Baltimore had started to play better. They
were struggling early on, but that was the point where
they switched things around, and Humphries and Marlon was playing
really good foot ball, and still Joe said, hey, ripping
y'all to shreds and heat.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Look, I want to say I got to look.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
At the scoreboard, but they forty five, forty six something
like that.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah that look, the boys put up points. I'm telling you,
they was averaging. We went there were like, all right, man,
we got to start their offense. And that was averaging
about twenty six, twenty seven points. And Joe was slinging
it like he was already down there two thousand yards.
You know what I'm saying. Wait above Everybody like, but look, yeah,
but we just knew our office gon put points upon

(33:31):
their defense.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
So we was like, hey, bro, we got to stopped
the boy about five times, four three or four five times.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
We got good to go, and look at it turned
out because we control the clock, making big plays and
kept that boy out that field because he has no
question he's out there, he's making plays.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
And it's so silly. And we talked about this before,
but this, this whole MVP conversation just frustrated me last
year because I thought Josh Allen had a better shot
at it the year before. And then people call me
a Lamar Jackson hater because I said, hey, he got
twenty four total touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
I don't know if this is the year he get it.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I mean, he won it with like forty four, forty
three touchdowns the MVP year that he wanted. I don't
think they're gonna give it to him with twenty four.
In law behold, they gave it to him slave. I
think Josh Allen had thirty thirty eight forty touchdowns, like
he was going crazy, but he had like seventeen interceptions
and turnovers or something, so somehow they punished him for that,
and I said, Okay, that's a little weird, but whatever.

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This year, Lamar has the craziest year than he had
on his first MVP season, forty one touchdowns, only four
interceptions on the entire season, one of the most efficient
seasons for a quarterback in NFL history.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
I'm talking about one of them, Aaron Rodgers season.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Aaron Rodgers got four MVPs and they looked similar to that,
thirty seven and three, thirty thirty three in four. You know,
stuff like that gets you the MVP. And not that
Josh Allen had a bad season, but Lamar's numbers were
better my personal opinion, and objectively they were better, and

(35:03):
they gave it to Josh Allen. And then you hear
MVP voters talking about, oh, well it was because you
know Lamar, he's more valuable to his team than Lamar.
What the heck are y'all talking every quarterback that's starting
international football and that's why he's paying him fifty sixty million,
because they're the most valuable, they're the highest paid, because
they're the most important. If you take them off those teams,

(35:24):
those teams are gonna be substantially worse. Maybe one or
two of them still make the playoffs, sure, but they're
going to be worse.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
So that argument is null and void. That's a nonsense argument.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Every quarterback is the most valuable player, and if you
took them off that team, their team is a lot
worse off, so that's not an argument. Is he having
the best seats and like he wasn't arguably the best quarterback.
So when you talk about it giving MVP, that's like
giving Defensive Player of the Year to a player and
you like, he might be the second best at his position,
but he's the defensive player of the year, and I

(35:55):
think that.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Can't be high work.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
It's crazy because the fact that everybody was complaining about
about Lamar be able not to pass and do this
and do that.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Now you have his best passing statistics.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
And I's like, oh, dang, I answered what y'all didn't like,
I still ain't win the MVP. That's that's why I
was mind blown, because y'all was complaining about him not
be able to throw the ball. Now it's like Lamar
is just this amazing that throwing the ball now, like
now like it was.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Wild at me.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I thought was I thought, I thought he went by a.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Mile and he ain't got no all Pro receivers out there.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, he had a Pro Bowl receiver and his Pro
Bowl receiver probably had what eleven hundred yards I think,
And now you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
And that's what they were arguing for Josh Allen. They're like,
he got these young receivers, and he did. He had
young receivers in this young team. But they were well coached,
they played well.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
On defel Yeah yeah, yeah, Lamar should have been three
p easily.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Don't laugh at me.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Hey, hey, hey, I know it got me too bad.
It get me too every time. Man, it gets me
to us. What a goodness?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Look, and we're gonna we're gonna speak because a lot
of stuff is changing within it fail in this draft situation,
and something's changing. For the first time in the NFL history,
the Houston Texans signed Jayden Higgins to a fully guaranteed
deal slay not just first round as a second rounder.
So everybody else said, hey, I ain't showing up until

(37:18):
I get mine guaranteed too. And now you're seeing deals
or guys. Nick m and Worri with the Seattle Seahawks
gets a four year, one hundred and I mean eleven
point six million dollar fully guaranteed deal. The number thirty
five pick got a fully guaranteed deal, and then the
tight end, Elijah Royo from the University of Miami gets

(37:41):
a four year eight point eight one three million dollar
deal with six point eight of it guaranteed.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
I love it for these young men.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
They're getting more guaranteed, more security for their families, for
their future, and they get to play the game they love.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
I'm never upset with that.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, you can't be. You know what I'm saying, you
can't be.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
I can't what second round is getting their fully guaranteed
money as a second rounder. You know, I was just
looking at this. Dude did four for eleven million. I
was a thirty six pick. I was going to pick
above him, and I mean behind him, and my contract
was a full year, like five mil. He getting for
eleven God, she's she I'm just looking at it, you

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know what I'm saying. But I'm happy that they're doing it, man.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I see.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
It's a good thing for the kids, man, because the
fact that they coming in and getting, like they said,
setting your family straight, and that's that's what a lot
of guys play this game for. You know, some people
play the game because they love it, and you know,
but a lot of guys in this.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Game play the game because they want to provide.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
It for their family, man, get their kids a better
future and all that. So it's good that they get
their money guarantee. Because it's been a lot of people
in this league that comes in league and see two
or three years. You know, that's the average. You know,
at least now they getting full guaranteed. These guys don't
pan out. I'm hoping for all of them to pan
out that Hey, you know, made eleven million dollars in

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four years.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
You can't be mad at that.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I mean, look, I remember some of these SEC guys
coming in and saying they taking a pay cut coming
to the league.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
But that's that's actually true. Now that's actually trying to happen.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
That dude's coming into the league, getting picked in the
fourth round and they were coming off a multimillion dollar
in nil deals. I said, this is just a different time.
Were gonna get to the time. Well, we seem like
we might be already here. With Shamar Stewart holding out,
not even coming to the Bengals training camp, not coming
to mini camp, not coming to anything.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
They're saying, if he holds.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Out to a certain point, you gotta go back to college,
you gotta go back into the draft.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeh, what I'm saying, And that's crazy, you know what
I'm saying That's why I'm like, I don't know why
they won't get the job done, but it must be
something about something going on that we don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
But that ain't my problem.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
But hey, hopefully the kid get his money because he
got he got y'all drafted him. Y'all thought he was
worth it, so y'all should get so. But to go
back to college, he probably gonna get probably more money
at college anyway, no question, no question.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Now we can we can talk about these NFL wide receivers.
You know, I do got an opinion about that and
how they ranked, because he's executives and coaches and scouts
ranked the wide receivers and it looks like for the
most point part they got it right. But the first one,
obviously Jamar Chase Justin Jefferson is two. Those can be interchanged.
Tyreek Hill was three, CD Lamb was four. AJ Brown

(40:28):
All day, always open. AJ Brown was five. I'm on
ros Saint Brown six, Malik Neighbors young guys seven's in
a little early, Nico Collins eight, Mike Evans nine, Garrett
Wilson ten.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Reaction.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Hmmm, I like Nico for sure.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
I thought Nico was on his way to earlier before
he got.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Hurt on toy toy Hemp, what's crazy? He ran past
a dude turn at hampstring right and scored.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
He was he was, he was looking Julio is to me.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
I'm telling he was mine. You would body frame. But
he gave me more of a prime uh, Josh Gordon,
that's what he gives me, that feeling, that swow Josh Gordon.
I'll tell you all like he was my sleeper for
a long time because I was watching his film, like, bro,
this boy he is nice. But then here right when
I say he's a sleeper, everybody just jumped on the

(41:20):
bandwagon was like, oh this kid here. I was like, damn,
I can't losing him as my sleeper no more. When
I people like hoos him upcause now everybody with lego
likes that.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
All right, But.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
That list it's huh, I don't know. I don't know,
like it's for show. You know, I'm for sure agreeing
with that AJ situation. AJA five is look like look
aj out of a everybody in that first five I
feel as in it's besides tyry because he unified with
fast and everything.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
He faster than everybody. So but everybody on that list
is from top four. It's mostly schemed.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
No.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
And for me, as this is a dB, I don't
seen Chase line up in the back. For I see
justin line up in the backfel I seen Tyree be
getting a three point, says Bot, the damn tackle guard
and be motion across that. All I say is aed
doing is line up at X come see about me?
And still but y'all pros like that.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
See, That's what I don't like when people would talk
about like schemes and they like like because that was
the argument they used to make with me, Like, oh man,
it's the scheme that got you over. I said, you
know how many you know everybody run cover three?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (42:32):
And you know how for some reason I'm the I
make it look like it's something else. I make it
look like it's some kind of special new coverage new
like with these guys I play with. And then it
was like, but if you really like that, I don't
gotta move. I don't got to do nothing special. You
gotta come over here. I don't got to chase you down.
I don't got to we don't got to move our scheme.

(42:52):
Look if you go over there, you running from me.
The scheme working.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
We know where you're.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
At, yep, because you know you'll get solo action.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
You get a solo we're leaning safety to you if
you go over there, but if you come over here,
we can dance.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why we're trying to
tell folks when I just say with AJ like he's
sitting up here, like if you want to see by me,
I'm over here. You know where I'm at. I'm not
going to go on this backfield. I'm not motion out
of that and getting it, getting isolated on the line
back or none of that. I'm coming to see your
best dude to make your best dude look like that's
your worst.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Dude, right And I'm on the line and.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I'm on it and I ain't man, look I done
seen it, Like he don't run from no smoke. So
people having him at five and then with it being said,
besides a lot of guys like people want to talk
about the quarterback play. All these guys got like real deal,
like professional, like pro pole type of quarterbacks. They always

(43:50):
say it hurts this and hurts that out of all
of them when it come down his passion. But like
I say, Hurts though the best deep ball and guess what,
A J.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Brown most likely be the best at catching that deep ball.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
So to be talking like that, to have him at
five and folks that be complaining about how Hurts is
as a quarterback as in passing, it's just crazy because
Aj is still being first team All Pro three years.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
In a row.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
I felt that that ball he threw it was a
nine ball in the playoffs. It was like third down
for the game maybe against the Rams. Was it the
Rams or was it it was third?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
It was dang who that was? I know you're talking
about though.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
It was like third and long, yes, and through a
crazy just and through a dime.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I said, y'all just lined up and said go ball
on third and nine.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
D J AJJ.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Brown.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
That's the That's that's what separates AJ from a lot
of guys. I feel asking too for show. Jamar Chase
can do that, but they dud put Jamar back dug.
I feel like Jamar Chase can be all of them
can do it.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I didn't seen Jamar Chase just catch a hitch and
take it and take it yard.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah, not arguing that Jamar Chase came up. I said,
Jamar Chase could do it. I seen him like I
would against him. And when I tell you, like he's
just as hard to tackle as.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
It is with a J.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Brown like a J but Famorrow Like i' he probably
one of the best dudes I've seen besides Tyre because
he's just unified.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
But the stick that foot in.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
The ground and get vertical, like he's not scared of
you hitting him, like he ain't trying to board none
of that. Like watching the film we play them was
and that man, Jamar Chase caught that screen on Baltimore
and took that mug eighty like got I said, look here, boy,
look we gotta tackle this boy. If we don't tackle
this boy, he going for two hundred so and.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Justin too, You're tough dude like everybody thinks. Justin stinny
skinny and stuff.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
He got that, he got that freak wiggle that that
you got.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, justin get act though.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Man.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Just the only thing I sleep on too.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Man that I don't really kind of like like the
list too much because I'm not saying I'm biased, because
I'm saying this is my dog.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
But I know I ain't biased, but people really, really.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
People be sleeping on smitty right, I'm telling like Garrettson's adult.
But like if Garrett like he's getting the targets he
deserve to get, like he getting them, we gotta feed Sakuan.
You gotta feel uh a j didn't gotta feed Dallas
Dallas at the tight end position.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Then you know that hurts.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
You know.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I ain't say the saying, but you know, if it's
thirty passes hurts dropped back, its gonna be least five
of them will be runs.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
But he goes and no, don't sleep on pooping the cool.
I know you've heard that him.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Boy, That's what I'm gonna say to him too.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Like that, Like I feel like for show Nego Collins
should be at.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I ain't gonna lie. He might be for me, honestly,
he might be at six.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Yeah before he got hurt, earlier got hurt.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Yeah before you hurt easy three or four, But right
now I say six because I'm not a man. Saint Brown,
he's adult, he does it all, he gets down, but
for showing me leak, I feel like I feel like hooka.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Is Yeah, I feel like you got it's hard because
he did break those records and he got all them
targets and he got them catch and he's an issue
to deal with.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
I just feel like it's really good.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
It's one of those teams that is just you know,
I want to see him with a better quarterback, hopefully,
you know, either Russell Wilson or Jamis or or Jackson
Dark whoever gets to start and plays and plays better
than what he was dealing with before. But what about
Tyreek running ten ten to one in a hunt at
thirty plus? Like people and people ain't really talking about that.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Like when I seen him do it, I'm like, hey boy,
look we went to the high school around the same area.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I said that that mother fum's still fast.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
A ship age and he just go out there and
just do it willingly, not like heraining. People think he
really training for like he really just training and get
in shape like he's training it, like he really takes
his time.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Say if he sat down and not took.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
A beating on his body in football for a whole
year and run, man, he will leave me. I ain't
gonna say a beat people like the Olympic runners, but
he'll run. He'll run the nines.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I don't think people really understand what ten to one is,
like what ten to one is. Like you can talk
about forties and four to two and four to three
and all that, but ten to one at thirty what
is he thirty.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Two, thirty one?

Speaker 2 (48:24):
About thirty one?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Like and he still wanted it, Like I just ran
it the other day. I don't train for this. I
don't do I woke up one day, put on some stuff.
I might have done some sprints the week before, and
then I ran ten one and I play in the
National Football League.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Like that's a stupid fast.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
And I don't like to go against people with as
that take that sports as a as a likelihood, like
you know, that's that what pays their bill.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
But folks don't understand the fact that people like, oh,
he got football spill, like he can't bring that up it.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
I'm trying to tell you, like this kid, tyree man,
he the kid, But like this dude here, litve he
took a whole year off and like let his body
like heal from getting it hit for twenty some weeks
in football and just like train and got in that
type of work like not saying he'd be the fastest
man in the world, but he will be out here competing.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Like DK did it. DK came out of nowhere and
just bust out a rant.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Of ten to three, just waking up, like I'm gonna
take by about five weeks and just try to.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Try any two thirties.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
And you know what I'm saying, that's the only thing
that kind of like be getting me when I'm hearing,
because I've been seeing these little stuff that beyond all
on the internet and seeing the track people be like,
you know what, saying.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Look, look, look, look, let's let's let's let's do this.
We're probably gonna get in trouble for this.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
The track people like Lord no Llows and all those
guys are very special individuals. They do a great job.
Like he's really fast. He got Olympic gold medal. I
dreamed of playing Olympics. I wish they had football we
I would have got a chance to play an Olympics.
I thought our sport could do that. But he is
closer to you and yo for then you will ever

(50:02):
be to him in his sport. Like he the fact
he could probably break ten and if he breaks ten.
It's not like y'all live in you Saint Boat ran
nine to five, but Tyson Gay ran nine to six.
Nobody else has run under nine nine to seven. So
if you said Tyreek Hill ran nine to nine, in

(50:23):
which I'm sure he could do at thirty something years old,
but then it's still an all pro football player, like,
not just a football player, not just I played football
in the National Football Professional I've been a top at
the top of the top. I've been the best. I've
won a Super Bowl like you. For him to go
into your sport and run even remotely in the same stratospeare,

(50:46):
that's world class speed that he showed.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
You.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I don't know if anybody could come to football, if
they could say, hey, I'm gonna put on a football
jersey and be almost as good as Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
No, you're not not close.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
You're not even gonna register.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Only y'all not gonna make the Peace Squad.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Come on, man, I do underwait I.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Be saying the same thing because I have some guys
that be at my facility, you know that be that's
track track fanatics, and they all up in here Houston.
You know they'd be like, you know, that's all it
is in Texas. That's all they do is run run
everybody then, Like, but I'm trying to tell folks like
y'all understand, like where we're trying to come from what
we be saying, Like it's only be saying it because

(51:29):
the fact that we are way closer than y'all are
to y'all sport and y'all all the hours, like y'all
will not be competitive.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
You come over here, you'll be.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Who but we go over there, like we could be
a little we might can be talked about like I
could be on the football one team and be and
make us win the world.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
He could be on the football one team right now
and they can.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Go and win it. Go man and be competitive. Better
just look out of place.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yes, And so that's where where it's tough when you
talk crazy to him, you know what I mean, Like,
don't talk to him like that, don't talk about him
like that, like you talk about like you wouldn't even
be close, Like it won't even be like you not
running nine seven every time you run ten black sometimes
you run ten oh, you run ten oh six ten
and he ran ten one.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
So if you have one of those ten O races.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
And he has a nine race and he runs a
little better, then guess what that day he gets you.
And if he ever did that, that's why Noehllows didn't
want race him, because if he ever walked in and
beat you at your sport, you will never be able
to walk out and say another word, because that's you
can't talk about nothing. It's a guy who just can't.

(52:33):
He ain't he doing this for fun and walked through
and beat you in your own sport and you could
never go to his sport and do that.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, he can't. And that's why I be arguing for it.
I'm with you, boy. I'm telling you, boy, I just
to have an argument. What these dudes in the longer ruld,
I'll swear because you offer.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Yeah, let him have yeah, yeah, you know, you know,
I got.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
I know, I'm like all right, i'd be like, you know,
I'm more like all y'all, y'all think it slick, But.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Well, we're gonna, we're gonna move. We're gonna we're gonna
move on. We're gonna move.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
We're gonna make it quick because we gotta we gotta
close up here eventually, you know.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
But Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I know you've seen what they suspended him for for
giving impermissible benefits, and they talked to about him like
he was paying the kids or something, when it was
him giving them ubers to practice, making sure they got treatment,
making sure they had team meals, and making sure that
the field got paided along. Behold, Teddy Bridgewater wasn't an
actual employee of the school. He was a volunteer, so

(53:30):
you cannot suspend a volunteer. He was there volationally, so
you cannot suspend him. You cannot sanction him, You can
not do anything. You can go coach somewhere else if
he felt like it. But what do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Uh? I mean I was.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
I was hurt by it because the fact that I
know Teddy.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
You know, I've been I'll be in Miami a lot
because my son and moms. He's from Miami, so we
used to go down there a lot. I don't know
Teddy for a.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Long time, and he don't to mean nothing but good
to the community.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
When I say him and Lamar Jackson, man, they guys
that really goes down into the community, hands on, no security,
no nothing, showing up but love to everyone.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
That's why you see them guys stay down there.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
That's why the don't lead because they showed so much
gratitude for them to do that to a guy that
took his time out, brought the program back. Everybody know
about Northwestern where I'm from down soccer, I'm from down
that way. I'm right there to do vall Bruns and
Georgia though, but it's like all that right there. So
but theming to bring back Northwestern to what it was
to like a championship team because a lot of guys
came out of there, like a lot of great ones.

(54:29):
Zavi rose everybody and for him to do that and
bring them back, and he's doing it in the right
way because what he didn't have in high school, they probably.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Wondn't do it not that way in high school.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Taking care of his body, showing them how to be
a profession at a young age.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
That's all what it is.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
It's just like he just teaching them how to be
a pro early and and you see what that had
to do. They won a championship in one year. Like
I don't know what they mad about with that, but it.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Is ay mad because he's doing it. You know, these
private schools have been doing it for years. You're not
mad at IMG doing it. I'm ad at all these
private schools paying for these kids to come here, paying
them thousands of dollars, professional trainers, training rooms, like weight rooms,
like spending all this money. This dude is two hundred
thousand out of his pocket, not putting it in kids
pockets to say, hey, come to my school, but putting

(55:14):
it into them, investing into those kids to make sure
they're taking care of so they can do things the
right way.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Man, get out of here.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Hey, look, man, and you know you don't want to
say it, but if.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
You them people, Man, I don't know what people if
them people, they don't want they don't want to see
them win.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
They don't want to see them whin. Man, they don't
want to see they don't want to see that man
build that community up because that community is not you
know what I'm saying, it's not the best shape, right.
And what brings the best stuff to that type of
community sports football.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Once the team in the city start winning, the city
come together, city, start putting stuff together for the kids,
this thing, you know, start having event for the kids,
and probably a lot of people don't want to see that.
That's why I mean, I'm not and I know how
I go down down there because I.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Had they mad that he won, They mad that they
won a championship. So I'm sure the.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Team he beat, or a team he beat along the way,
is the ones that reported and hated on him.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
So it's sad, but that's how it goes.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Your boy, your old teammate, and the Dominican Sue retires.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
I want to give you a chance to give miss
Floppers hey Man. Shout out to my boy Sue Man,
the Dominican Man. He's probably one of the best ogs
I had outside of the dB room play with him
from in the Detroit. When I tell you this, dude
here set the standard of what a professional need to
look like. He set the standard for us at definitely
Detroit and man playing alongside him. Man, he been one

(56:36):
of the best ones, one of the best detacckers I
ever played with. I got, I played, I got a
chance to play with him and Fletcher, even though me
and Fletch played again in college. But them two guys there, Man,
not to my boy Man, Sue Man, he wanted the
best they ever do it. Man, I don't know how
they'll do them, but I'll fit sure put him on
my first ballot. You know what I'm saying, because he
did was a gag wrecker. I watched five people try

(56:58):
to block him with folk and not successful.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
You know what I'm saying. So shout out to my dude.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
Man.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
I much love to you.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Man.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
You know we still connect he and Houston as we speak,
probably right now, and I'm telling him right now, I'm
pulling up to your crib, and your crib is my crib,
so you gotta check in with me.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Well, I appreciate your big play.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Well, like I said, everybody, big Play will be joining
us every week during the season, maybe once or twice
during training Kevi. Itf be not too busy, But I
can't promise you that. I appreciate you guys all joining us.
You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here
with us, and we sure do appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yes, sir, appreciate you man.

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