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July 23, 2025 • 19 mins

Richard Sherman reacts to the growing dysfunction with the Dallas Cowboys and calls out Jerry Jones for creating drama before the season even starts. From public shots at Trevon Diggs to delaying a well-deserved extension for Micah Parsons, Sherman explains why the Cowboys front office keeps getting in its own way.

He also dives into Russell Wilson being named the starter for the New York Giants, reacts to JC Tretter stepping down from the NFLPA, and weighs in on Jamal Adams reuniting with Pete Carroll. Plus, Sherman salutes the retirements of Tyrann Mathieu, Philip Rivers... and maybe himself.

00:00 – Intro / Jerry Jones sparks drama over Cowboys stars
12:03 – Russell Wilson named Giants starter
13:39 – JC Tretter resigns from NFLPA
16:50 – Jamal Adams signs with Raiders & reunites with Pete Carroll
17:34 – Tyrann Mathieu & Philip Rivers officially retire

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And I know
it's only been a couple of days, but there's always
news and of course the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry Jones just
cannot help himself. He says, Hey, there's not enough controversy,
there's not enough drama. There's not enough issues with my
team right now. So you know what I'm gonna do,

(00:26):
I'm gonna create. So he talked bad about Trade Diggs.
Should they have paid Trade Diggs? Yes, you should have
played Trade Digs. You're playing really well. At the time
he was healthy, he had a lot of interceptions. You
pay the guy. But now he's been injured for a
couple of years, you think, oh, man, should we have
paid him? Should we have paid Steele? What about Deck?

(00:47):
We made him the highest paid and he missed a
couple of games. It's football, Jerry, it's football. It's been football.
That's the risk you take paying guys. These are still
great guys, the guys that play well. Every year, Jerry
Jones starts the season talking about his best guys, talking
and rarely ever talking positively about him. And you know what,

(01:10):
I don't mind Jerry talking in the media, but if
you're gonna talk in the media to start the season
and say, hey, I don't think my best players are
worth the money I'm paying them because they're always injured,
they didn't play as well as I thought they would.

(01:31):
I'm kind of having second thoughts about why I paid them. Jerry,
I could tell you this. I can tell you this,
that season probably ain't gonna start off how you want.
It's not. It's not you want this season to end
in the super Bowl. I don't know how many seasons
start off with the owner of the team, the general manager,

(01:52):
the person who running the show saying, Hey, my best players,
I'm not getting enough out of them, and I'm paying
too much. I really don't. And then, arguably your best player,
and I've been saying this for years, you haven't paid
at all. You have not given a contract. And you

(02:15):
could have paid Michael Parsons. When Nick Bosa got his
five for one to seventy, you could have paid Michael
Parsons right then, and there got a discount because now
now the price is only going up. That was thirty
four million dollars a year. TJ. Watt just got forty

(02:36):
one million dollars a year. You were gonna have to
go above what TJ. Watt just got because of Michael
Parson's age, his production, his consistency, or somebody else will.
But I've said this for at least the last two years,

(02:57):
it's something weird about Dallas in their relationship with Michael Parsons.
The Cowboys front not not the players, not the fans,
not the scheme, not anything the front office. Jerry Jones
in his relationship with Michael Parsons, I said, it's been odd,
like it's almost like they don't like him. They don't

(03:19):
like him, or they don't they are they feel like
they know something or the rest of us don't. Because
just objectively speaking, his numbers speak for themselves, his accolades
speak for themselves, and all those things scream pay the man,
but they haven't paid the man. His production's there, and

(03:40):
people are like, well, they haven't won a Super Bowl.
Miles Garrett forty million dollars. Cleveland ain't ain't sniffed the
Super Bowl. TJ. Watt forty one million dollars. They're not.
Pittsburgh was not in a Super Bowl last year, not
not by any stretch of the imaginations. Daniel Hunter got
thirty five point six million dollars. They went to the playoffs,

(04:01):
but he went to Houston to get that deal. Max
Crosby thirty five point five from the Raiders the respect
he deserves. But you know what I like about this.
I like the way Trey Digs and Micah Parsons are
handling it. They said, Okay, Jerry, you want to play
this media game. And that's the difference between the players

(04:26):
these days and players of the past. Players in the past.
You kind of just got to shut up and and
just you know, play and say say all the right things,
and and and and hope that the front office does
what you want him to do. Not anymore, not with
social media, not with all this media access. If you

(04:51):
want to throw daggers, Jerry, the players can throw them
right back. But it just makes everything look really dysfunctional.
But aaa Parsons did a great job. He was he
was calm, He delivered a good message. Hey, I've done
everything I could do to put myself and my family
in a position to get paid what I deserve, and

(05:11):
that's all I'm asking for. The reporters are like, are
you holding in? You're holding out clearly, He's holding in clearly.
If they paid him tomorrow, he'd be at practice, practicing
as hard as he could and playing a good game
and doing everything being a player he's been. But at
some point you gotta protect yourself. At some point you
gotta say, hey, enough is enough, Like I'm out here

(05:34):
putting myself in danger, and y'all done made me get
all the way to my contract year and still having paid,
not even answering my agent's calls. And David muller Getta
is one of the best out there, if not the
best agent in the business. So if y'all not picking
up the phone, it's not like he's he's saying something
crazy to y'all. David Mullageda has done a lot of

(05:57):
these incredible deals. I think he was He was in
on the Jaden Higgins deal with Houston, which became the
first second round pick to get the fully guaranteed deal.
Of course mullagedar got his hands on it. He's been
a part of a lot of these guaranteed deals, a
lot of these huge deals, Jalen Ramsey getting his deals.
You look at d B Play and you look at

(06:19):
DB's getting paid. In majority of the time, you're gonna
see David Mullagedtter's name attached to it, Micah Parsons and
quarterbacks too. Shoot. I mean he has a lot of
great clients in this league, long list, But for them
to play this game with Michaeh Parsons unnecessarily when you
could have paid this man years ago and saved yourself trouble,

(06:41):
headache money. You could have saved yourself seven million dollars
a year if you just paid him a couple of
years ago. And I said this, but Garry Jones refuses
to get out of his own way and get out
of the way of the Dallas Cowboys. They're the only
team in the NFC that has not made an NFC

(07:03):
Championship game since the nineties. I think it was ninety six.
As their fans, I'm sure the fans have to be
frustrated with this. You gotta be frustrated because it's not
like you don't have a talented team. They draft as
well as anybody. I think they got the most all
pros drafted in the first round over the last decade
or two. Like you're drafting the right guys, you're getting superstars.

(07:26):
You're handling it in a way that hey, ceede lamb
a guy All Pro. Trey Digg's been an All Pro,
Michael Parsons all Pro like you're getting guys Dak Prescott
All Pro. But you can't talk about him like that, Jerry.
You're gonna say, Michael Parsons, man, he didn't play a
lot of games last year. He missed six games. The
man missed four. You can't run a team and say

(07:48):
your best player missed more games than he missed. It
just sends the wrong message. And I don't know. I
don't really know how you fix this. I don't know
how you come back getting run of a mic as
Jerry Jones and say my bad like Trey, we love you, Michael,
we love you, because behind closed doors ain't enough. At
this point, you made it public. They made it public.

(08:12):
It's gonna have to be a joint press conference where
everybody says, shakes hands, hugs, were all good while Michael
Parsons is signing the highest paid non quarterback deal in
the National Football League. But is that gonna happen? I
don't know the way Jerry works. I don't know the
way Jerry works. He's gonna is he gonna franchise Michael Parsons.

(08:37):
I hope not. I hope not. I hope it doesn't
get to that point. I hope. I hope Michael Parsons
gets forty one and some change million dollars a year
over five years, with most of it guaranteed, and he
can continue to play at a high level. The man
has deserved it, the man has earned it. That's what
you're supposed to get. You're supposed to get what you're earned.
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Speaker 1 (10:53):
In other news. Because the Cowboys, I mean Jerry Jones,
not even the Cowboys. Cowboys got a really talented team,
a great roster. They got a new head coach who
was their offensive coordinator and Shoddy I think you know,
without these kind of distractions, this is a this is
a promising season for them, you know. Obviously it's a
a stacked NFC East, with the Commanders going to the

(11:17):
NFC Championship, the Eagles coming off a Super Bowl win.
It's gonna be a battle for that division. You don't
need to make it harder on yourself, Jered. You don't
need to go there and say make life harder for
your players and make these kind of things the topic
of the conversation instead of the season. The season hasn't
even started. There's not bad things happening yet they're not.

(11:39):
There's not bad plays, there's not bad games. But this
is just bad. This is as as an owner, as
a GM, this is about as bad as you could
say going into the season. This is a way a
GM gets in the way of his team. Our owner
gets in away of his team. But in other NFC
East news, Russell Wilson was the starter for the New

(12:02):
York Giants. Brian day Bowl announced that the other day,
which is expected, they paid him ten million dollars to
come in here and beat a starter. Obviously, they drafted
Jackson Dart. They brought Jameis Winston in, but they gave
Russell Wilson that money to have him be the starter.
This is a very tough situation, but clearly he's shown

(12:24):
enough for Day Bowl to name him the starter at
this point. Hopefully he could have some success. I'm sure
if things go the way they have for the Giants
the last few years, people will be, you know, calling
for Jamis or Jackson Dart. Jamis has been very productive
in this league. Jackson Dart is the young up and

(12:47):
coming rookie that you know, anytime somebody has a new toy,
they're always excited about it. So we'll see how that
goes for the Giants. Obviously, Monique Malik Neighbors is a
tremendous weapon and had a great season last year, and
they had some success you know, intermittently throughout the season.
So hopefully that situation works out really well. The offensive

(13:11):
line has had its issues, of course, so if they
can keep Russell Wilson upright, I'm sure he'll feed Mylik
Neighbors and maybe they'll be able to have some success
early on. Obviously, we'll keep a very good eye, close
eye on that situation. But congratulations to Russell Wilson on
being named the starter. Onto some NFLPA news. J C.

(13:33):
Treader resigns from the NFLPA. I'm not sure how I
approached this because there's a lot of things being said
about j. C. Tratder and the way things were handled
and these backdoor deals that were agreed to. I was
in the nfl PA, I was on the executive committee.
I can tell you that we didn't know anything about

(13:54):
any of the back door deals being done. Anybody agreeing
to deals about suppressing alleries, et cetera, et cetera. If
we're new, I been the first to come out and
say something, and so would he. So would he. He's
a stand up guy. He put a lot of effort,
a lot of energy during his time to try to
elevate the players, elevate the nfl P a UH and

(14:17):
the way players respected it. He's the guy who came
up with the players survey, the nfl PA All Pro Team.
He's done a lot of things to try to try
to change the narrative within the nfl PA. So I
could I could understand why he would resign and say
enough's enough. Man, I've given blood, sweat and tears, and
for people to talk about him in the way they're

(14:39):
talking about him, it's probably really frustrating. It's disappointing to
see the deals that have been done and the conversations
that have been had without the approval of the Executive Committee.
And I'm sure players are gonna gonna be frustrating and
and and and make their thoughts heard. Obviously, the executive

(15:01):
director resigned JC doesn't want to be considered. I would
guess likely it goes to Don Davis, who's who's an
incredible leader. But there's obviously some things that need to
be fixed and needs to be addressed. It's unfortunate. I
think the story is being made, the conversations being had,
or I mean they're they're revealing, and they're frustrating, and

(15:24):
they're you know, and everybody has an answer. Everybody's like, man,
this is the worst. They need to do this, They
need to do that. Unless you've set in those meetings,
you set up those buildings, set in those conversations. Like
it's hard for you to have an input on it
because you don't really know how these things work. But
I know that the players and the men in that
building care about the league and about the guys and

(15:47):
have done everything they could to to push the game forward. Unfortunately,
this is some backdoor activities that went on that that
guys didn't know about. And I'm sure that's what what's
going to be addressed. So we'll see how that goes.
I'll keep an eye on it and keep my ear
to the street. But it's it's it's an interesting time

(16:08):
for the National Football League and NFLPA because because you
can't have it, you can't have it. And it's good
on the reporters and everybody who was able to get
the information and expose it and put it out there
so that truth can be out there. Nothing wrong with
the truth being out there. I don't think anybody's upset
about that. Uh. And if you're upset with that, then
it says more about you than them. But something gotta change, clearly. Uh.

(16:32):
The Raiders signed Jamal Adams Pete Carroll. Uh. He and
Pete Carroll have a reunion. That's an interesting move. We'll
see how much he has left in the tank and
what role they'll use him in. When he was in Detroit,
it looks like they use him as kind of a
rover outside linebacker. Deal, which you know, I think, and
and it's probably a good fit for him to play.

(16:56):
I think it's it's hard to put him in coverage
in some of those situations, and it's shown tape. But
he is very effective as a blitzer, very effective as
a tackler, plays fast and can have an impact in
the role if he's in the right role. So it
could be good, it could not be good. We'll see.
We'll see how that goes. Tyrone, Matthew and Philip Rivers retire.

(17:18):
That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. I mean Tyron, you know,
got a lot of respect, had a lot of battles
when he was in Arizona, continued to elevate had a
battle in the Super Bowl with him when he was
with the Kansas City Chiefs. One of one of my
favorite players, a great human being, guy who got it
out the mud. Was one of the best players in

(17:40):
college football, got to the league, dealt with some injuries,
dealt with some man versity, and continued to find a
way to persevere and inspire and elevate himself in his
game and his team. And congratulations, hats off to an
incredible career. Philip Rivers retires after being retired. Okay, congratulations

(18:03):
the Philip Rivers, a great quarterback, had great battles with him.
Fun guy, incredible competitor. I guess I gotta announce my
retirement too. I'm I'm Richard Sherman. I'm retiring from National
Football League. Y'all will not see me put pads on anymore.
I'm doing TV permanently since since since you know, look,

(18:24):
Philip retired like that, then I gotta retire too. I
guess you gotta announce it. I thought I thought people
just got the point. Once you stopped playing for a
couple of years, it was uh, it was done, It
was over with. But congratulations of those men. Those are
those are great players. The game will miss them. But tremendous,
tremendous guys, tremendous teammates, tremendous players. Thankful to have gotten

(18:45):
to compete against them and and and enjoy their game. Huh. Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry,
You gotta do better. I appreciate you guys joining me
as always. You could be anywhere in the world, but
you're here with me, and I sure do appreciate it.
Catch you next time.
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