August 1, 2020 • 35 mins
In this exclusive podcast Colin talks with "First Things First" host Nick Wright about the people upset at NBA players kneeling, social media, bad habits, favorite shows and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Nick Ride is joining me. Get Nick, writes his Twitter account,
co host. First things first, my buddy Nick right here
on our Saturday podcast. You know, I just, uh, you know,
I was just laughing at some of these people that
are telling me. I've been doing this now thirty years,
so I'm pretty good at selecting topics. And you know
what we do for a living, right, Yeah. I love
everybody telling me you are not talking about the China
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NBA story. And my takeaway is, did I did I
look for a did I go to the trades and
ask for a producer? Does everybody get that China NBA
is a bureaucracy laden story about a government that would
not make a great topic for a sports talk radio show.
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I am amazed at how many the fake outrage crowd
who wants me to talk to they don't really care
about China. And by the way that they did, they
wouldn't have their iPhone because their iPhone was made in China,
so they're complicit supporting an evil government. I guess all
of our iPhone as they tweet about China from their
iPhones that are from China. But what when people say
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to you, why are you not breaking down this fascinating
NBA China story. What would your take be, Well, it
is so rife with hypocrisy. I mean, you just pick
the layer and you want at it. First of all,
the vin diagram of people demanding that we crush the
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NBA for the human rights trustees in China, and the
vinn diagram of Peter combined with the Vin diagram of
people who scream keep politics out of my sports coverage.
It's not even a Vin diagram. It's just one big circle.
It's the same group of people who who don't want
you to talk about anything but the games. If you're
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discussing social injustice in this country or racial inequality, but
are in domain ending it because not because they deeply
care about sweatshops in China or the horrific internment camps
that the Yugur community, the Muslims in some parts of
China going through, or what's going on in Hong Kong,
they are only using it as a cudgel to try
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to silence black people. And so it is. Listen, I
think it is almost impossible to participate in daily modern
life without making some basically you know, moral I don't
want to say equivalences. That's not the right word, but
it moral bargains. Your shoes are made, like we all
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basically decide. There's only even one person my entire life
I've actually known who refuse to buy anything that was
an American made. Happened to be my father. I mean
when I parent, he was a Union guy forever. When
my parents split up, we looked for a television for
his house for nine hours because you know how hard
it is, even twenty years ago to find a TV
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that was made in America. The vast majority of us
always make these kind of compromises. Yea. And yet listen
the NBA and if you, if you have a if
you really want to cross the league because they have
chosen economics over universal you know, equal rights and over
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human rights globally feel free. Like I understand that's a
legitimate stance to hold, and I get it they value
the relationship with China, but it is the same type
of compromise we make all the time. And I just
doubt that these people actually really care. They don't. I
just think they don't like And when I say one
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other thing, I think it is totally legitimate for people
to say, I am deeply educated, deeply concerned, deeply involved
and injustices are happening in my hometown or my home country,
and I am not as invest did geopolitical and international issues.
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I think you can say, for example, let's say someone's
biggest issue is the oppression of the protesters in Hong Kong.
I don't think that therefore means they have to be
deeply invested in the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Like you're allowed
to say, these are my issues and these aren't my issues,
And it just to me it's obvious hypocrisy from folks that,
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by the way, when they're attacking the NBA for the
relationship with China, they seem to very leave out when
the politicians do it attacking a guy I know relatively well,
Tilman for Tita, the owner of the Rockets, because he
is a loud and adamant political supporter of a president
they like a lot, And so that hypocrisies go ted.
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Cruz goes after Mark Cuban, not Tilman for Tita, and
I think it's pretty obvious walk Yeah, I mean, I
think this idea that people deeply care. If you're a
farmer and your subsidy is cut, you have a right
to be mad. If you're a senior in your pharmacy
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bill doubles, you have a right to be mad. If
you're a renter and your lease is doubled. Those are
personal things that you should complain about. None zero of
the people bitching about China and the NBA care about
the NBA or China. They don't. So I use this
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line with my daughter. Don't let people with no life
ruin yours. People that complain to complain about stuff they
don't really care about are simply lonely, angry, miserable people.
If you want to complain about something that deeply affects
your family, I've got your back. I've totally got your back.
The guy, the guy that rips the NBA, go to
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his last two hundred tweets about the NBA. They're all negatives.
So well, and I'll take it a step further because
what it used to be when the NBA athletes, vast
majority black athletes, would talk about police brutality and police violence,
they would get people would immediately go to the same
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Charlotteans either what about Chicago meaning violence in Chicago or
the red heiring of black on black crime. Basically, what
are you doing in your own community? And now that
over the last few years, NBA players have become some
of not only the most charitable something but some of
the most activist athletes in American history, addressing real issues
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in their own communities, building schools, providing opportunities, those things.
That arrow has now been removed from the quiver. So
now it's why aren't you solving a you know, a
century old dictatorship. Why isn't that And it's just again,
I was happy. I think one could make the argument
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that the entire world would be better if we were
more of a global community and we cared about human
rights violations everywhere. But that is not how America has
ever operated, and we've never asked celebrities. In order to
have any cause domestically, you must therefore be invested in
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every cause globally. So to me, it is just it
is just so transparent that it is to me, using
real pain and suffering of various groups of people in
China as just a cudgel to try to silence black
people from expressing their dissatisfaction with what's happening locally or
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domestically in this country. And like you're saying, the people
tweeting to you about it, saying, why aren't you talking
about China? If you started doing that type of show
where you talked about every you know, nuance, geopolitical or
somewhat sickly political issue, they would hate you for it.
They would absolutely be furious. It's the same people saying
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keep polity or sports of mind escape sports and my escape.
I don't seoplelack lives matter on the court. Why aren't
you talking about China? It's just obvious what they're doing. Yeah,
I mean, listen, people tell me to stick to sports,
then they want me to talk about China. Well, that's
that's bureaucracy that I just listen. I've been doing this
for thirty years. I'm really good at it. This is
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what I do. I talk, I know how to produce
a show. You know, the guy that's lamenting my lack
of China talk has no interest in China. He's got
an iPhone from China. He's then complicit assisting an evil government.
And if you really care about human rights, you just
don't care about young basketball player of human rights. You
care about all human rights in China. So I'm pretty
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much over it. I do think this is one thing
both side. I'm kind of fascinated by this because I
do think of myself as a kind of a social
left fiscal right. Is that both sides do this. Conservatives
look at me and say, oh, you now are just
very woke, as if I just am inauthentic, to which
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I would say, I was pro gay marriage before Obama
and Clinton. I've been pro gay pot or pro pot forever,
pro gay marriage forever. Yeah, pro gay pot. That would
be a fascinating platform. So I could be a good business. Yeah.
But the idea that you're just doing it. But I
think Democrats do it to conservatives where they're like, you're
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just trying to get clicks. No. I work with Jason Whitlock.
He's conservative. I don't have to agree with him. I
don't think he's making it up. You're more liberal. I
don't think you're making it up. The idea that everybody's
just playing a game, conservatives claimed. Now I'm getting a
lot of these that is very woke. I was pro
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gay marriage on the air in Portland thirty years ago.
That that word to me, Colin has it's one of
the MANI it's one of the many phrases like swag
or woke that actually originated in the black community, and
then all of a sudden was kind of taken by
a totally different community to mean something totally different, like
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I'll go on a flight non secretary here, but some
kind of on the political topic anyway, Like four years ago,
when the term fake news came about, it had a
very specific meaning. It was news, mostly on the Internet,
made to look like it came from a credible source,
usually a small local newspaper, and the entire thing was
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made up. It was and so it was. It was
news that was made to look believable to dupe the
audience into thinking, wow, the you know, the Des Moines
Register reported this. That's the origin of the fake news term.
It then got reclaimed or claimed, and now you have athletes, coaches, politicians,
any story that someone doesn't like they just call fake news,
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and the word has lost all meaning. That What's happened
with the term woke, which is essentially now just weaponized
to mean you are showing empathy or care for something
I can't imagine you actually do care about it. Therefore
I think you're virtue signaling or any of these things.
The reason people I think throw that term around so
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often is because for a lot of folks, it is
they can't comprehend that some people might actually be able
to have empathy for others who are dealing with things
they own. And so if you if you express outrage,
you know, on your show, and you talk less politicople
basically any any sports show in America. But if you
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just you know, if you the days after the George
Floyd protests, if you talk about that for five minutes
and how effective you were by it, and how even
though that hadn't been your life experienced house scary, you
understand it is for other people. Some people, I think
it is so their brain is wired in a way
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that because they can't feel that type of empathy, they
think no one can. Yeah, and so you must be
faking it. Yeah, so you must be putting on an
act to try to get out of boys from the
liberal media as opposed to no man. I felt sick
to my stomach seeing that, and it made me sad,
Like I think, some people don't believe that emotion is possible.
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You know, it's interesting my wife and I have this discussion.
I've said this before. I love Bill Maher. Don't agree
with him all the time, but love him. And I've
also read an an culture book. My kids like hip hop,
my wife likes hip hop, but we sing country music
at home because it just puts it in a good mood.
There's a certain duality. I can like a bunch of stuff.
I have no problem. Now I see you Nick, Nick
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right joining me, and I see to myself, this is
a pretty left leaning guy. Are there times, though, similar
to me, that you do listen to the other side
and feel like, you know what, it's an fascinating perspective. Well,
I think I think that there are. I think there
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are plenty of instancies in my lifetime where the folks
on you know, the right because with the perspective of time,
you can look back and say, oh, that was one
I think they got right. Yeah, like, oh that that's
the concern that the I'll use a very I think
localized example, but I think this is kind of the
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one of the foundational principles of some types of conservatism,
at least what it once was. Is. Man, there's too
much red tape. If I want to open a barber
shop in Kansas City, the amounts of licenses and fees
and hoops I have to jump through is owners and
that that type of you know what I mean, old
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regulation or government bureaucracy. I absolutely want to listen to
those conversations, and I would argue that once upon a time,
what was considered conservative tax positions I think are actually
quite smart now where you've got to go back maybe
fifty years. But there's a lot of things that I
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that I think are It's very very few, as you said,
on the social issues, there's almost I'm exceedingly far left
from social but Bill Bill Maher brings up something that
I think is a fair criticism of the left, and
he says, conservatives will come on my show and argue
with me. He goes, liberals won't go on conservative shows.
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He goes, you know, goes, I can invite any conservative
on Ben Shapiro Bannon. He goes, They're like, oh, I
can't quite argue. He said, there is something redeemable about
the willingness to spar and I do think, and that's
one of the reasons I love Bill Maher's show. The
gets into these occasional little feisty arguments, and I feel like,
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as a consumer, Nick, I'm learning stuff well, I think so.
And I've said this to you before because I used
to be a every single episode watcher of Mars Show.
Not as much anymore. And this is not the fault
of his but what has to me, in a very
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unfortunate way over the last call five years, deteriorated as
far as our ability to have big conversations about important
topics is our inability to agree on a set of
facts and and so like Mars Show, and I think
the end of the season thing an example, but a
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lot of these shows, I think it used to be okay,
here in the fact, you know, the last things, we
should address it this way, the right things, we should
address it this way, Let's debate it. And I find
that really interesting, really stimulating. As you were saying, sometimes
you find I find myself saying, no, I actually agree
with the person I didn't think I was gonna agree with.
But that's it's so often deteriorated to we are actually
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arguing over what the set of facts are, which I've
made this show to you before, I think off the air,
but if we debated sports the way we debated politics,
it would be none of the shows would work because
I'd go on with you and say, you know why
Lebron's better than Jordans because Lebron's got eight rings Jordan
only had three. And you'd say, wait, oh, I watched
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Jordan won six Lebron. No, no no, no, look look it up.
Check it. We can check out for the show. Lebron's
got eight, Jordan's got three. So I haven't even an
argument like you. At least with sports, we all agree
the Lakers beat the Clippers last night. We can debate
why it happened, and I see that when you're by
the way, you're doing a very good job of pointing
that artful, heartful topic for you. Um. But with we
all agree on almost the rules of the game, what
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happened and what, and then we debate why it happened.
And I hope because it does seem like and people
have different, you know, different explanations for this, but it
certainly seems like starting around two ten that both that
it became people started doing politics a little bit more
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like sports teams, which was I have to root for
my team no matter what, even if I think they're wrong.
I remember listening to you, I don't even know. I
think it was PREFS one and the timeline probably had
to be where you and I. You said, listen, I
voted for Obama. I'm happy he won. So everyone's got
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to acknowledge the Affordable Character website is a disaster. It's
his big thing, and they totally butchered the role out
of and I think once upon a time folks were
it was not considered sacrilegious, said hey, hey, Hetting, my
side screwed up on something, right. But now people are
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so entrenched and so almost you know, hunkered down that
you want people just feel a lot of people feel
a desperate need, no matter what, to defend their side,
even if their side is doing something they disagree with.
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it's it's interesting. I think we have a a bit
of a Bill O'Reilly was on this like fifteen years ago,
a little bit of a culture war. I think there's
some people that have been marginalized, rural American poor. They
shout boycott NASCAR and boycott baseball, boycott the NBA. They kneeled,
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and I think, boycott Nike, boycott this and that. And
the reality is what has really happened to me. It
used to be that if I owned a farm and
you worked on the farm, I made more than you,
but not seven thousand times more. Silicon Valley in the
wealth has really separated America. And the truth is it
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has made um, even the middle class virtually powerless. Virtually. Yes,
it's very mean, and I guess my point is what
it's done to the even the middle class. They feel weakened.
There's fear with that, there's anger with that, and I
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understand that I am not mocking them. If I have
three kids and I'm being replaced by a robot or
some techie kid, and I'm a fifty eight year old
manager and I lose my job, nobody wants to hire me,
and I think what you're getting this anger is fear based.
Silicon Valley is largely the exponential wealth generated over a
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day has separated the coasts, often from the Midwest, the burbs,
from rural America. And I think there's real fear out there.
Not that it's justified, but I understand it because when
society pulls away from you and you feel like you're
being left behind, that stirs a lot of understandable emotions.
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Well and listen, I mean that's the old like economic
anxiety argument, right, and so I so listen. I think
it's what's been made pretty clear over the last however
many years in this country is there is a non
negligible portion of the country. I don't know what percentage
it is, but it is as it's not one in
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a hundred. There's a percentage of people who race is
the single most important thing in their life and that
they and whether that's fear or hatred or whatever it is,
that is going to be their guiding star. Set those
people of stuff, there is another group of people who
I think you are talking about, who feels like what
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I was promised via the American Dream was a lie,
which was that I didn't have to be, you know,
a master's in business in order to build a decent
life for my family and put a kid or two
through school and have a decent house in a decent neighborhood.
Adding a black, white Hispanic for people of all colors,
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that's something that now you know, you know me, I'm
a union guy. I think the you know, the lack
of some of the public sector unions has worth that.
I think obviously the you know, technology as well, it
maybe has helped society as a whole, or obviously has.
There's a lot of folks you can't go from I
worked in a factory for twenty six years, so now
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I'm going to be a coder. You weren't trained for that.
And there's and so there is an element of like, uh,
folks who feel like I did what I was told
to do. You know what I mean. I went, I
went to school, I finished high school. Maybe I got
a bachelor's area. Maybe I went to trade school, and
I went and learned a craft, learned a trade. And
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I thought I was supposed to be able to do
this for thirty five years. And it's enough money aside
that my house paid off to put a kid through
a good public's college and be able to retire. And
it's like no, actually, turns out your job's gone you're
probably gonna have to work till you're dead. And like,
for a lot of those folks, I understand why they
would be furious with everybody. Now, I think a lot
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of that anger gets misdirected and they get tricked into
thinking it's you know, folks coming in from Mexico they
should blame and stupid stuff like that. But yeah, there's there.
There has been a drastic shift as far as what
rich means as far as you know, and how many
people classify as soup we're wealthy, and how many people
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classify as middle class, which I don't like it's called
middle class, but it's certainly not like a middle quadrant
of our society. It's an incredibly shrinking amount of people.
We're like, No, I'm comfortable. I'm not wealthy, but I'm
comfortable those people are? You know you and fart between
these days? Yeah, Nick Wright, co host. First things First,
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we did an Instagram live this week, and I will
say we fumbled around with it for a few seconds,
but appeared to have mastered the platform. You know, So
I gotta tay this funny story my daughter two and
a half months ago, three months ago, says dad, TikTok's interesting.
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She said, you know, don't you think it's kind of funny.
It's the only platform on social media that takes all
my information. She had a term for it. She's very techy.
She goes, it's made in China. And then she added
a cup other layers to it with the pandemic, and
she said, do you think it's possible TikTok was created
to monitor American citizens? And I said, God, I have
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no idea. I said, where did you read that? And
she said, why didn't? She says, but it's the only
device on social media that takes blankety blank information from me.
And then about two months later, I read on the
internet and I and I read it and I thought,
oh my god, what And there was some there was
there were people echoing her sentiments. And I'm moving into
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this secretary of state. Yes, I'm feel worried about that.
So so it's I don't know if my daughter got
it somewhere or not. But of all the platforms on
the new platforms in our twenty years of doing this
for a business, your favorite and why and the one
you just don't get and why? So Twitter, to me
has been the best and the worst, and that it's
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been the best in that I don't I used to
have to go to like Sports by Brooks and The
Big League and dead Spin in all these different websites
to try to find some stuff to see what is
going on other than the biggest stories. Now I just
scroll my Twitter feed because I'm following, you know, the
accounts I need to, and I get all the latest
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news immediately. I'm never behind on anything. It's the worst
in that it has absolutely become a compulsion. I am.
I am If I am two hours behind the news,
even if it could be Friday evening and I don't
have a show until Monday, I feel naked, Like I
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feel like I have to know what's happening at every
single moment. And I don't think that's healthy. I think
it's bad for my brain. Like I wake up and
the very first thing I do is see like check Twitter,
not my mentions, but just check Twitter to see what's
going on. It's the last thing I do before bed.
So I don't think that's been good for me. Like
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I as far as just kind of like human development,
I can't when I'm on vacations if I don't delete
the app from my phone. I'm scalling it all the time,
like so it has hooks, It's got its hooks into me. Now,
it has been good as far as I think. One
of the reasons that FS one hired me or at
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least gave me a look was I was a local
host in Houston, but I had forty thousand Twitter followers,
which for a local radio host in Houston was like
a significant amount. So you know, it allows you to
put stuff out there, so that part's good. The one
that I have not I never got on any of
the picture based ones or video based ones, so Instagram, Snapchat,
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and TikTok. I don't have an account Snapchat. I never
really had an account Instagram. I'm trying to build up
because it does seem like it is kind of the
wave of the future. But maybe it's maybe TikTok is,
but TikTok is confused, Like I feel like an old
man on this. Yeah, TikTok's confusing, and and like my
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kids love it, like it is you know, my daughter
who's just turned fifteen or I guess not, she's she's fifteen,
Like she's been on TikTok forever, back when it was
called Musically, which is what it once was called before
it switched over to TikTok, and I do see it
seems like a lot of these like viral stories of
like the you know, the different Karen's in public and stuff.
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It's like always recorded on TikTok. So I guess people
are using it, but I feel I feel so far behind.
And I know it's dumb because you should just start up,
but I also feel like, man, am I going to
start from scratch on a whole new social media platform?
But I wish I had done that with Instagram five
years ago instead of starting on Instagram two years ago,
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because I'd be further ahead. But I Twitter a sports
media way way overestimates how many people in the public
or on Twitter, but in sports media, all of us
are on it. So it's just you gotta like to me,
Twitter is the one I use more than anything. I
don't use Facebook at all, and I'm getting into Instagram
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more and more. I think it's probably similar with you. Yeah,
I mean you can, to be honest, most of these
platforms you can't monetize. I get three hundred and thirty
million views a year on Facebook. My company doesn't make
any money to note worthy on it. I mean YouTube
channels where the money's at if you have a good
YouTube channel. My company makes a lot on my YouTube channel,
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a lot, but most of these. I find Twitter is
where I get my information and I view it as
a marketing platform. I send out my best stuff for
my funniest lines, and I think it's almost like it's
the old icing on the cake. It's not the cake,
but it can. If you take a really smart edited
rant put it on there, it gets a lot of
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attention and it's good branding. It gets your name out there.
I think you nailed it though, on the YouTube thing,
which geez, I mean there are there some of the
wealthiest people in entertainment media these days are folks that
don't have a TV show, don't have a radio show,
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that they have a YouTube channel with eight million subscribers
and they're twenty something year old who just you know,
made nine million dollars last year. The number of people
who and I'm trying to act like a super I'm
a super popular guy, but among the people who stop
me and say I watch you, I would say half
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of them say I watch you on YouTube like that
as opposed to and those are the people, by the way,
who very often when they see and some like they
know me, but the friend doesn't. I'll hear him say,
oh yeah, he's on ESPN or he like they because
they don't watch on FS one, they watch on the internet.
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They watch on YouTube, and so they probably follow me
and you and Mac you know whomever, And so to them,
we're basically all on the scene network, you know what
I mean, We're all we're just sports media guys. But
the YouTube things, the amount of money that is made
by YouTube, and another one that I haven't ever got
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into because I'm not a gamer like that is Twitch,
the folks that live stream them playing video games. There's
a ton of money in that too. But I just
feel like an old man on this stuff. I'm like,
I'm on the radio and on television, Like that's how
you could confield me. Okay, we're gonna play twenty questions,
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except I'm gonna ask two or three. Nick Write's worst habit,
oh smoking. I mean, I have worn nicotine patches for
thirteen years since I met my wife. I started wearing
level one nicotine patches are supposed to wear them for
six weeks maximum. I've worn them for thirteen years, and yet,
as you saw yesterday, get a couple of kills in me,
(30:59):
and I'm still going to a ripple Black and Mile
like my life depended on it. I mean, some would
say gambling, but I look at gambling not as a
bad habit. I look at gambling as something I really
enjoy that at times. You know, I make a lot
of money. At times I lose some money. But my
flop me on gambling has always been I just have to.
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I just you gotta know how much money you have,
and so how much money you can play with. And
so I don't look at gambling as a bad habit.
Smoking is an unredeemable bad habit I have. I just
I just love Black and Moms. Who is nothing I
can do? Um movie you love? Movie or TV show
you love that has been critically mocked or panned. Oh
(31:44):
that's interesting. So I time to Tom Cruise was in
a movie called Cocktail that I liked. What's so funny,
you say, Tom Cruise. I don't know if these will portable,
so pans, but I I've watched all of the Mission
(32:05):
Impossible except for maybe Mission Impossible too. Mission Impossible is
three four five six are four of the greatest films
ever made. And my wife makes fun of me all
the time because I bought them, like I own them
on Amazon Prime and all just basically almost every night,
(32:30):
all put on one of the Mission Impossibles and watched
and she'll be like, why can't you just turn the
TV off and go to bed? And I need the
TV on to help fall asleep, but it's something I
haven't seen. I stay up. So I just I like,
I've rewatched Mission Impossible five seven minutes at a time,
probably twenty times. So I love those movies. I love
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the Born movies. I love the Mission Impossible movies. I
think those things are great. I think they're great, not
not movies, great films and pieces of art. And I
will die on that wall. Finally, Electric caremeal one to go.
It's okay, um, so I am. I'm gonna have some
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type of steak, so it's probably gonna be if it's
my last meal, either a kan City strip like you
were so kind to cook when we watch Lakers Clippers,
or I guess you know in theory, I want to
leave as much money as possible to my family, but
I can spring for the A five blog you basically unpooked.
(33:40):
So I'm doing that. I'm gonna do um cream spinach.
I'm probably also gonna do some paid spinach. I'm gonna
do some type of beef steak, tomato, onion, blue cheese,
gorgonzola salad, and I'm gonna have a big glass of
(34:05):
good tequila and no dessert. I'm not a dessert. Maybe
maybe some maybe a flight of cheesecake. But I you know,
I had that that a five thirty dollars an ounce
wagu steak when Kendrick Perkins lost a bet to me
about the NBA playoffs lust year and he had to
(34:26):
paper a meal of mine, and so I got, I
think you're supposed to get six ounces max of that.
I got eighteen ounces of a five blague at uh
del Frisco's in New York City, so which was five
hundred and forty dollars. Perkins was paying for it, so
I didn't care. Now I will tell America this, that
is not a steak. I think that is made to
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be eaten in that quantity because it was. While it
was maybe the most delicious meal I've ever had, it
is so marvelie and it was so rich h that.
I don't think your body is conditioned to take it,
but it was worth it, So yeah, I think that's
my electric chair meal. By the way, also, if I
(35:08):
get to pick the meal, if I also can pick
the foreign execution, I would much prefer firing squad than
any of the other. I think that's way to go.
Ructric chair seems horrible, the injection. I feel like they
screw up the inspiring squad. I feel like just go
is the best way to go. I think that's my take. Yeah,
the electric chair. I don't even like when my shoes
rub on a carpet and I get shot. Yeah. Yeah,
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that's not good. It's good. It's not really good, all right.
His name is Nick Wright, Saturday Podcast. That is enough.
I have thoroughly enjoyed the last couple of days hanging
with Nick, my friend. Have a great weekend you two
as well. Thanks for having me on Colin talk to you.
The letter
Nick Ride is joining me. Get Nick, writes his Twitter account,
co host. First things first, my buddy Nick right here
on our Saturday podcast. You know, I just, uh, you know,
I was just laughing at some of these people that
are telling me. I've been doing this now thirty years,
so I'm pretty good at selecting topics. And you know
what we do for a living, right, Yeah. I love
everybody telling me you are not talking about the China
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NBA story. And my takeaway is, did I did I
look for a did I go to the trades and
ask for a producer? Does everybody get that China NBA
is a bureaucracy laden story about a government that would
not make a great topic for a sports talk radio show.
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I am amazed at how many the fake outrage crowd
who wants me to talk to they don't really care
about China. And by the way that they did, they
wouldn't have their iPhone because their iPhone was made in China,
so they're complicit supporting an evil government. I guess all
of our iPhone as they tweet about China from their
iPhones that are from China. But what when people say
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to you, why are you not breaking down this fascinating
NBA China story. What would your take be, Well, it
is so rife with hypocrisy. I mean, you just pick
the layer and you want at it. First of all,
the vin diagram of people demanding that we crush the
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NBA for the human rights trustees in China, and the
vinn diagram of Peter combined with the Vin diagram of
people who scream keep politics out of my sports coverage.
It's not even a Vin diagram. It's just one big circle.
It's the same group of people who who don't want
you to talk about anything but the games. If you're
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discussing social injustice in this country or racial inequality, but
are in domain ending it because not because they deeply
care about sweatshops in China or the horrific internment camps
that the Yugur community, the Muslims in some parts of
China going through, or what's going on in Hong Kong,
they are only using it as a cudgel to try
(02:17):
to silence black people. And so it is. Listen, I
think it is almost impossible to participate in daily modern
life without making some basically you know, moral I don't
want to say equivalences. That's not the right word, but
it moral bargains. Your shoes are made, like we all
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basically decide. There's only even one person my entire life
I've actually known who refuse to buy anything that was
an American made. Happened to be my father. I mean
when I parent, he was a Union guy forever. When
my parents split up, we looked for a television for
his house for nine hours because you know how hard
it is, even twenty years ago to find a TV
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that was made in America. The vast majority of us
always make these kind of compromises. Yea. And yet listen
the NBA and if you, if you have a if
you really want to cross the league because they have
chosen economics over universal you know, equal rights and over
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human rights globally feel free. Like I understand that's a
legitimate stance to hold, and I get it they value
the relationship with China, but it is the same type
of compromise we make all the time. And I just
doubt that these people actually really care. They don't. I
just think they don't like And when I say one
(03:45):
other thing, I think it is totally legitimate for people
to say, I am deeply educated, deeply concerned, deeply involved
and injustices are happening in my hometown or my home country,
and I am not as invest did geopolitical and international issues.
(04:05):
I think you can say, for example, let's say someone's
biggest issue is the oppression of the protesters in Hong Kong.
I don't think that therefore means they have to be
deeply invested in the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Like you're allowed
to say, these are my issues and these aren't my issues,
And it just to me it's obvious hypocrisy from folks that,
(04:28):
by the way, when they're attacking the NBA for the
relationship with China, they seem to very leave out when
the politicians do it attacking a guy I know relatively well,
Tilman for Tita, the owner of the Rockets, because he
is a loud and adamant political supporter of a president
they like a lot, And so that hypocrisies go ted.
(04:51):
Cruz goes after Mark Cuban, not Tilman for Tita, and
I think it's pretty obvious walk Yeah, I mean, I
think this idea that people deeply care. If you're a
farmer and your subsidy is cut, you have a right
to be mad. If you're a senior in your pharmacy
(05:12):
bill doubles, you have a right to be mad. If
you're a renter and your lease is doubled. Those are
personal things that you should complain about. None zero of
the people bitching about China and the NBA care about
the NBA or China. They don't. So I use this
(05:33):
line with my daughter. Don't let people with no life
ruin yours. People that complain to complain about stuff they
don't really care about are simply lonely, angry, miserable people.
If you want to complain about something that deeply affects
your family, I've got your back. I've totally got your back.
The guy, the guy that rips the NBA, go to
(05:55):
his last two hundred tweets about the NBA. They're all negatives.
So well, and I'll take it a step further because
what it used to be when the NBA athletes, vast
majority black athletes, would talk about police brutality and police violence,
they would get people would immediately go to the same
(06:17):
Charlotteans either what about Chicago meaning violence in Chicago or
the red heiring of black on black crime. Basically, what
are you doing in your own community? And now that
over the last few years, NBA players have become some
of not only the most charitable something but some of
the most activist athletes in American history, addressing real issues
(06:39):
in their own communities, building schools, providing opportunities, those things.
That arrow has now been removed from the quiver. So
now it's why aren't you solving a you know, a
century old dictatorship. Why isn't that And it's just again,
I was happy. I think one could make the argument
(06:59):
that the entire world would be better if we were
more of a global community and we cared about human
rights violations everywhere. But that is not how America has
ever operated, and we've never asked celebrities. In order to
have any cause domestically, you must therefore be invested in
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every cause globally. So to me, it is just it
is just so transparent that it is to me, using
real pain and suffering of various groups of people in
China as just a cudgel to try to silence black
people from expressing their dissatisfaction with what's happening locally or
(07:44):
domestically in this country. And like you're saying, the people
tweeting to you about it, saying, why aren't you talking
about China? If you started doing that type of show
where you talked about every you know, nuance, geopolitical or
somewhat sickly political issue, they would hate you for it.
They would absolutely be furious. It's the same people saying
(08:06):
keep polity or sports of mind escape sports and my escape.
I don't seoplelack lives matter on the court. Why aren't
you talking about China? It's just obvious what they're doing. Yeah,
I mean, listen, people tell me to stick to sports,
then they want me to talk about China. Well, that's
that's bureaucracy that I just listen. I've been doing this
for thirty years. I'm really good at it. This is
(08:26):
what I do. I talk, I know how to produce
a show. You know, the guy that's lamenting my lack
of China talk has no interest in China. He's got
an iPhone from China. He's then complicit assisting an evil government.
And if you really care about human rights, you just
don't care about young basketball player of human rights. You
care about all human rights in China. So I'm pretty
(08:48):
much over it. I do think this is one thing
both side. I'm kind of fascinated by this because I
do think of myself as a kind of a social
left fiscal right. Is that both sides do this. Conservatives
look at me and say, oh, you now are just
very woke, as if I just am inauthentic, to which
(09:08):
I would say, I was pro gay marriage before Obama
and Clinton. I've been pro gay pot or pro pot forever,
pro gay marriage forever. Yeah, pro gay pot. That would
be a fascinating platform. So I could be a good business. Yeah.
But the idea that you're just doing it. But I
think Democrats do it to conservatives where they're like, you're
(09:30):
just trying to get clicks. No. I work with Jason Whitlock.
He's conservative. I don't have to agree with him. I
don't think he's making it up. You're more liberal. I
don't think you're making it up. The idea that everybody's
just playing a game, conservatives claimed. Now I'm getting a
lot of these that is very woke. I was pro
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gay marriage on the air in Portland thirty years ago.
That that word to me, Colin has it's one of
the MANI it's one of the many phrases like swag
or woke that actually originated in the black community, and
then all of a sudden was kind of taken by
a totally different community to mean something totally different, like
(10:14):
I'll go on a flight non secretary here, but some
kind of on the political topic anyway, Like four years ago,
when the term fake news came about, it had a
very specific meaning. It was news, mostly on the Internet,
made to look like it came from a credible source,
usually a small local newspaper, and the entire thing was
(10:38):
made up. It was and so it was. It was
news that was made to look believable to dupe the
audience into thinking, wow, the you know, the Des Moines
Register reported this. That's the origin of the fake news term.
It then got reclaimed or claimed, and now you have athletes, coaches, politicians,
any story that someone doesn't like they just call fake news,
(11:01):
and the word has lost all meaning. That What's happened
with the term woke, which is essentially now just weaponized
to mean you are showing empathy or care for something
I can't imagine you actually do care about it. Therefore
I think you're virtue signaling or any of these things.
The reason people I think throw that term around so
(11:24):
often is because for a lot of folks, it is
they can't comprehend that some people might actually be able
to have empathy for others who are dealing with things
they own. And so if you if you express outrage,
you know, on your show, and you talk less politicople
basically any any sports show in America. But if you
(11:45):
just you know, if you the days after the George
Floyd protests, if you talk about that for five minutes
and how effective you were by it, and how even
though that hadn't been your life experienced house scary, you
understand it is for other people. Some people, I think
it is so their brain is wired in a way
(12:07):
that because they can't feel that type of empathy, they
think no one can. Yeah, and so you must be
faking it. Yeah, so you must be putting on an
act to try to get out of boys from the
liberal media as opposed to no man. I felt sick
to my stomach seeing that, and it made me sad,
Like I think, some people don't believe that emotion is possible.
(12:28):
You know, it's interesting my wife and I have this discussion.
I've said this before. I love Bill Maher. Don't agree
with him all the time, but love him. And I've
also read an an culture book. My kids like hip hop,
my wife likes hip hop, but we sing country music
at home because it just puts it in a good mood.
There's a certain duality. I can like a bunch of stuff.
I have no problem. Now I see you Nick, Nick
(12:52):
right joining me, and I see to myself, this is
a pretty left leaning guy. Are there times, though, similar
to me, that you do listen to the other side
and feel like, you know what, it's an fascinating perspective. Well,
I think I think that there are. I think there
(13:13):
are plenty of instancies in my lifetime where the folks
on you know, the right because with the perspective of time,
you can look back and say, oh, that was one
I think they got right. Yeah, like, oh that that's
the concern that the I'll use a very I think
localized example, but I think this is kind of the
(13:38):
one of the foundational principles of some types of conservatism,
at least what it once was. Is. Man, there's too
much red tape. If I want to open a barber
shop in Kansas City, the amounts of licenses and fees
and hoops I have to jump through is owners and
that that type of you know what I mean, old
(14:00):
regulation or government bureaucracy. I absolutely want to listen to
those conversations, and I would argue that once upon a time,
what was considered conservative tax positions I think are actually
quite smart now where you've got to go back maybe
fifty years. But there's a lot of things that I
(14:21):
that I think are It's very very few, as you said,
on the social issues, there's almost I'm exceedingly far left
from social but Bill Bill Maher brings up something that
I think is a fair criticism of the left, and
he says, conservatives will come on my show and argue
with me. He goes, liberals won't go on conservative shows.
(14:42):
He goes, you know, goes, I can invite any conservative
on Ben Shapiro Bannon. He goes, They're like, oh, I
can't quite argue. He said, there is something redeemable about
the willingness to spar and I do think, and that's
one of the reasons I love Bill Maher's show. The
gets into these occasional little feisty arguments, and I feel like,
(15:02):
as a consumer, Nick, I'm learning stuff well, I think so.
And I've said this to you before because I used
to be a every single episode watcher of Mars Show.
Not as much anymore. And this is not the fault
of his but what has to me, in a very
(15:23):
unfortunate way over the last call five years, deteriorated as
far as our ability to have big conversations about important
topics is our inability to agree on a set of
facts and and so like Mars Show, and I think
the end of the season thing an example, but a
(15:44):
lot of these shows, I think it used to be okay,
here in the fact, you know, the last things, we
should address it this way, the right things, we should
address it this way, Let's debate it. And I find
that really interesting, really stimulating. As you were saying, sometimes
you find I find myself saying, no, I actually agree
with the person I didn't think I was gonna agree with.
But that's it's so often deteriorated to we are actually
(16:09):
arguing over what the set of facts are, which I've
made this show to you before, I think off the air,
but if we debated sports the way we debated politics,
it would be none of the shows would work because
I'd go on with you and say, you know why
Lebron's better than Jordans because Lebron's got eight rings Jordan
only had three. And you'd say, wait, oh, I watched
(16:31):
Jordan won six Lebron. No, no no, no, look look it up.
Check it. We can check out for the show. Lebron's
got eight, Jordan's got three. So I haven't even an
argument like you. At least with sports, we all agree
the Lakers beat the Clippers last night. We can debate
why it happened, and I see that when you're by
the way, you're doing a very good job of pointing
that artful, heartful topic for you. Um. But with we
all agree on almost the rules of the game, what
(16:54):
happened and what, and then we debate why it happened.
And I hope because it does seem like and people
have different, you know, different explanations for this, but it
certainly seems like starting around two ten that both that
it became people started doing politics a little bit more
(17:17):
like sports teams, which was I have to root for
my team no matter what, even if I think they're wrong.
I remember listening to you, I don't even know. I
think it was PREFS one and the timeline probably had
to be where you and I. You said, listen, I
voted for Obama. I'm happy he won. So everyone's got
(17:38):
to acknowledge the Affordable Character website is a disaster. It's
his big thing, and they totally butchered the role out
of and I think once upon a time folks were
it was not considered sacrilegious, said hey, hey, Hetting, my
side screwed up on something, right. But now people are
(17:58):
so entrenched and so almost you know, hunkered down that
you want people just feel a lot of people feel
a desperate need, no matter what, to defend their side,
even if their side is doing something they disagree with.
What's up everybody? John middlecot Three and Out Podcast. That's me,
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(18:21):
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Three and Out Podcast. Go subscribe right now. Yeah, you know,
(18:42):
it's it's interesting. I think we have a a bit
of a Bill O'Reilly was on this like fifteen years ago,
a little bit of a culture war. I think there's
some people that have been marginalized, rural American poor. They
shout boycott NASCAR and boycott baseball, boycott the NBA. They kneeled,
(19:03):
and I think, boycott Nike, boycott this and that. And
the reality is what has really happened to me. It
used to be that if I owned a farm and
you worked on the farm, I made more than you,
but not seven thousand times more. Silicon Valley in the
wealth has really separated America. And the truth is it
(19:25):
has made um, even the middle class virtually powerless. Virtually. Yes,
it's very mean, and I guess my point is what
it's done to the even the middle class. They feel weakened.
There's fear with that, there's anger with that, and I
(19:46):
understand that I am not mocking them. If I have
three kids and I'm being replaced by a robot or
some techie kid, and I'm a fifty eight year old
manager and I lose my job, nobody wants to hire me,
and I think what you're getting this anger is fear based.
Silicon Valley is largely the exponential wealth generated over a
(20:08):
day has separated the coasts, often from the Midwest, the burbs,
from rural America. And I think there's real fear out there.
Not that it's justified, but I understand it because when
society pulls away from you and you feel like you're
being left behind, that stirs a lot of understandable emotions.
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Well and listen, I mean that's the old like economic
anxiety argument, right, and so I so listen. I think
it's what's been made pretty clear over the last however
many years in this country is there is a non
negligible portion of the country. I don't know what percentage
it is, but it is as it's not one in
(20:52):
a hundred. There's a percentage of people who race is
the single most important thing in their life and that
they and whether that's fear or hatred or whatever it is,
that is going to be their guiding star. Set those
people of stuff, there is another group of people who
I think you are talking about, who feels like what
(21:16):
I was promised via the American Dream was a lie,
which was that I didn't have to be, you know,
a master's in business in order to build a decent
life for my family and put a kid or two
through school and have a decent house in a decent neighborhood.
Adding a black, white Hispanic for people of all colors,
(21:37):
that's something that now you know, you know me, I'm
a union guy. I think the you know, the lack
of some of the public sector unions has worth that.
I think obviously the you know, technology as well, it
maybe has helped society as a whole, or obviously has.
There's a lot of folks you can't go from I
worked in a factory for twenty six years, so now
(21:57):
I'm going to be a coder. You weren't trained for that.
And there's and so there is an element of like, uh,
folks who feel like I did what I was told
to do. You know what I mean. I went, I
went to school, I finished high school. Maybe I got
a bachelor's area. Maybe I went to trade school, and
I went and learned a craft, learned a trade. And
(22:19):
I thought I was supposed to be able to do
this for thirty five years. And it's enough money aside
that my house paid off to put a kid through
a good public's college and be able to retire. And
it's like no, actually, turns out your job's gone you're
probably gonna have to work till you're dead. And like,
for a lot of those folks, I understand why they
would be furious with everybody. Now, I think a lot
(22:40):
of that anger gets misdirected and they get tricked into
thinking it's you know, folks coming in from Mexico they
should blame and stupid stuff like that. But yeah, there's there.
There has been a drastic shift as far as what
rich means as far as you know, and how many
people classify as soup we're wealthy, and how many people
(23:02):
classify as middle class, which I don't like it's called
middle class, but it's certainly not like a middle quadrant
of our society. It's an incredibly shrinking amount of people.
We're like, No, I'm comfortable. I'm not wealthy, but I'm
comfortable those people are? You know you and fart between
these days? Yeah, Nick Wright, co host. First things First,
(23:22):
we did an Instagram live this week, and I will
say we fumbled around with it for a few seconds,
but appeared to have mastered the platform. You know, So
I gotta tay this funny story my daughter two and
a half months ago, three months ago, says dad, TikTok's interesting.
(23:46):
She said, you know, don't you think it's kind of funny.
It's the only platform on social media that takes all
my information. She had a term for it. She's very techy.
She goes, it's made in China. And then she added
a cup other layers to it with the pandemic, and
she said, do you think it's possible TikTok was created
to monitor American citizens? And I said, God, I have
(24:08):
no idea. I said, where did you read that? And
she said, why didn't? She says, but it's the only
device on social media that takes blankety blank information from me.
And then about two months later, I read on the
internet and I and I read it and I thought,
oh my god, what And there was some there was
there were people echoing her sentiments. And I'm moving into
(24:30):
this secretary of state. Yes, I'm feel worried about that.
So so it's I don't know if my daughter got
it somewhere or not. But of all the platforms on
the new platforms in our twenty years of doing this
for a business, your favorite and why and the one
you just don't get and why? So Twitter, to me
has been the best and the worst, and that it's
(24:53):
been the best in that I don't I used to
have to go to like Sports by Brooks and The
Big League and dead Spin in all these different websites
to try to find some stuff to see what is
going on other than the biggest stories. Now I just
scroll my Twitter feed because I'm following, you know, the
accounts I need to, and I get all the latest
(25:13):
news immediately. I'm never behind on anything. It's the worst
in that it has absolutely become a compulsion. I am.
I am If I am two hours behind the news,
even if it could be Friday evening and I don't
have a show until Monday, I feel naked, Like I
(25:35):
feel like I have to know what's happening at every
single moment. And I don't think that's healthy. I think
it's bad for my brain. Like I wake up and
the very first thing I do is see like check Twitter,
not my mentions, but just check Twitter to see what's
going on. It's the last thing I do before bed.
So I don't think that's been good for me. Like
(25:57):
I as far as just kind of like human development,
I can't when I'm on vacations if I don't delete
the app from my phone. I'm scalling it all the time,
like so it has hooks, It's got its hooks into me. Now,
it has been good as far as I think. One
of the reasons that FS one hired me or at
(26:19):
least gave me a look was I was a local
host in Houston, but I had forty thousand Twitter followers,
which for a local radio host in Houston was like
a significant amount. So you know, it allows you to
put stuff out there, so that part's good. The one
that I have not I never got on any of
the picture based ones or video based ones, so Instagram, Snapchat,
(26:41):
and TikTok. I don't have an account Snapchat. I never
really had an account Instagram. I'm trying to build up
because it does seem like it is kind of the
wave of the future. But maybe it's maybe TikTok is,
but TikTok is confused, Like I feel like an old
man on this. Yeah, TikTok's confusing, and and like my
(27:02):
kids love it, like it is you know, my daughter
who's just turned fifteen or I guess not, she's she's fifteen,
Like she's been on TikTok forever, back when it was
called Musically, which is what it once was called before
it switched over to TikTok, and I do see it
seems like a lot of these like viral stories of
like the you know, the different Karen's in public and stuff.
(27:24):
It's like always recorded on TikTok. So I guess people
are using it, but I feel I feel so far behind.
And I know it's dumb because you should just start up,
but I also feel like, man, am I going to
start from scratch on a whole new social media platform?
But I wish I had done that with Instagram five
years ago instead of starting on Instagram two years ago,
(27:45):
because I'd be further ahead. But I Twitter a sports
media way way overestimates how many people in the public
or on Twitter, but in sports media, all of us
are on it. So it's just you gotta like to me,
Twitter is the one I use more than anything. I
don't use Facebook at all, and I'm getting into Instagram
(28:07):
more and more. I think it's probably similar with you. Yeah,
I mean you can, to be honest, most of these
platforms you can't monetize. I get three hundred and thirty
million views a year on Facebook. My company doesn't make
any money to note worthy on it. I mean YouTube
channels where the money's at if you have a good
YouTube channel. My company makes a lot on my YouTube channel,
(28:29):
a lot, but most of these. I find Twitter is
where I get my information and I view it as
a marketing platform. I send out my best stuff for
my funniest lines, and I think it's almost like it's
the old icing on the cake. It's not the cake,
but it can. If you take a really smart edited
rant put it on there, it gets a lot of
(28:50):
attention and it's good branding. It gets your name out there.
I think you nailed it though, on the YouTube thing,
which geez, I mean there are there some of the
wealthiest people in entertainment media these days are folks that
don't have a TV show, don't have a radio show,
(29:11):
that they have a YouTube channel with eight million subscribers
and they're twenty something year old who just you know,
made nine million dollars last year. The number of people
who and I'm trying to act like a super I'm
a super popular guy, but among the people who stop
me and say I watch you, I would say half
(29:33):
of them say I watch you on YouTube like that
as opposed to and those are the people, by the way,
who very often when they see and some like they
know me, but the friend doesn't. I'll hear him say,
oh yeah, he's on ESPN or he like they because
they don't watch on FS one, they watch on the internet.
(29:55):
They watch on YouTube, and so they probably follow me
and you and Mac you know whomever, And so to them,
we're basically all on the scene network, you know what
I mean, We're all we're just sports media guys. But
the YouTube things, the amount of money that is made
by YouTube, and another one that I haven't ever got
(30:16):
into because I'm not a gamer like that is Twitch,
the folks that live stream them playing video games. There's
a ton of money in that too. But I just
feel like an old man on this stuff. I'm like,
I'm on the radio and on television, Like that's how
you could confield me. Okay, we're gonna play twenty questions,
(30:37):
except I'm gonna ask two or three. Nick Write's worst habit,
oh smoking. I mean, I have worn nicotine patches for
thirteen years since I met my wife. I started wearing
level one nicotine patches are supposed to wear them for
six weeks maximum. I've worn them for thirteen years, and yet,
as you saw yesterday, get a couple of kills in me,
(30:59):
and I'm still going to a ripple Black and Mile
like my life depended on it. I mean, some would
say gambling, but I look at gambling not as a
bad habit. I look at gambling as something I really
enjoy that at times. You know, I make a lot
of money. At times I lose some money. But my
flop me on gambling has always been I just have to.
(31:21):
I just you gotta know how much money you have,
and so how much money you can play with. And
so I don't look at gambling as a bad habit.
Smoking is an unredeemable bad habit I have. I just
I just love Black and Moms. Who is nothing I
can do? Um movie you love? Movie or TV show
you love that has been critically mocked or panned. Oh
(31:44):
that's interesting. So I time to Tom Cruise was in
a movie called Cocktail that I liked. What's so funny,
you say, Tom Cruise. I don't know if these will portable,
so pans, but I I've watched all of the Mission
(32:05):
Impossible except for maybe Mission Impossible too. Mission Impossible is
three four five six are four of the greatest films
ever made. And my wife makes fun of me all
the time because I bought them, like I own them
on Amazon Prime and all just basically almost every night,
(32:30):
all put on one of the Mission Impossibles and watched
and she'll be like, why can't you just turn the
TV off and go to bed? And I need the
TV on to help fall asleep, but it's something I
haven't seen. I stay up. So I just I like,
I've rewatched Mission Impossible five seven minutes at a time,
probably twenty times. So I love those movies. I love
(32:51):
the Born movies. I love the Mission Impossible movies. I
think those things are great. I think they're great, not
not movies, great films and pieces of art. And I
will die on that wall. Finally, Electric caremeal one to go.
It's okay, um, so I am. I'm gonna have some
(33:16):
type of steak, so it's probably gonna be if it's
my last meal, either a kan City strip like you
were so kind to cook when we watch Lakers Clippers,
or I guess you know in theory, I want to
leave as much money as possible to my family, but
I can spring for the A five blog you basically unpooked.
(33:40):
So I'm doing that. I'm gonna do um cream spinach.
I'm probably also gonna do some paid spinach. I'm gonna
do some type of beef steak, tomato, onion, blue cheese,
gorgonzola salad, and I'm gonna have a big glass of
(34:05):
good tequila and no dessert. I'm not a dessert. Maybe
maybe some maybe a flight of cheesecake. But I you know,
I had that that a five thirty dollars an ounce
wagu steak when Kendrick Perkins lost a bet to me
about the NBA playoffs lust year and he had to
(34:26):
paper a meal of mine, and so I got, I
think you're supposed to get six ounces max of that.
I got eighteen ounces of a five blague at uh
del Frisco's in New York City, so which was five
hundred and forty dollars. Perkins was paying for it, so
I didn't care. Now I will tell America this, that
is not a steak. I think that is made to
(34:47):
be eaten in that quantity because it was. While it
was maybe the most delicious meal I've ever had, it
is so marvelie and it was so rich h that.
I don't think your body is conditioned to take it,
but it was worth it, So yeah, I think that's
my electric chair meal. By the way, also, if I
(35:08):
get to pick the meal, if I also can pick
the foreign execution, I would much prefer firing squad than
any of the other. I think that's way to go.
Ructric chair seems horrible, the injection. I feel like they
screw up the inspiring squad. I feel like just go
is the best way to go. I think that's my take. Yeah,
the electric chair. I don't even like when my shoes
rub on a carpet and I get shot. Yeah. Yeah,
(35:31):
that's not good. It's good. It's not really good, all right.
His name is Nick Wright, Saturday Podcast. That is enough.
I have thoroughly enjoyed the last couple of days hanging
with Nick, my friend. Have a great weekend you two
as well. Thanks for having me on Colin talk to you.
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