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October 5, 2025 • 22 mins

Kickoff is nearly here, so let's get betting! NFL betting expert Chad Millman and professional sports gambler Simon Hunter announce their final five against the spread contest picks for NFL Week 5. After all their picks and predictions this week, they deliver their top five best bets, including Dak Prescott's Dallas Cowboys visiting the New York Jets, Cooper Rush and the Baltimore Ravens hosting CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans, the favored Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes heading to Jacksonville on Monday Night Football, the New Orleans Saints hosting Jaxson Dart and the New York Giants, and a must-fade spot for the LA Chargers against the Washington Commanders. All their final and official betting picks, all in one fast-paced episode! #Volume

0:00:00 - start

0:07:30 - Texans at Ravens

0:08:30 - New York Giants at New Orleans Saints 

0:10:30 - Dallas Cowboys at New York Jets

0:12:30 - Kansas City Chiefs at Jacksonville Jaguars MNF 

0:20:00 - Denver Broncos at Philadelphia Eagles 

0:22:00 - Washington Commanders at LA Chargers 

0:24:00 - FINAL BETS

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
I am Chadmllman.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
I am joined by my co host, my bff, my companion,
my compadre, professional better signment hunter Ellos only.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Man, Chad. I made the terrible decision. I went to
the Phillies game last night. Even the last Phillies game
I went to was the no hitter against Houston in
the World Series. I said I would never go again,
got offered to go, and I had to produce O Tani,
which I always you know, in my mind, the greatest
baseball player ever. I was like, I gotta go. Feeling good,

(00:44):
three enough, Rob Thompson playoff. Baseball is decided by these managers.
Every move the man made was wrong. Phillies lose five
to three. Honestly, almost as bad as a no hitter
walking out of the stadium, and I as bad as
my life, fizz. I feel thankful I'm not a Phillies
Penn State fan, because that is truly the worst life

(01:05):
you could have yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
That is a terrible parlay to have lost yesterday. I'm
whispering a little bit when I announce you because I'm
doing a road game. I'm in College Park, Maryland. We
had parents weekend for my son, who's a freshman. We
walked out of the Maryland game yesterday as the fourth
quarter was starting and they were up twenty to nothing.

(01:28):
It's a fifteen minute walk from the stadium to our
hotel and Maryland had given up a three touchdown lead
in the biggest game they've had in a generation, ended
up losing twenty four to twenty. They were losing by
the time we got back to our hotel. We're still
trying to figure out what happened. So we both had
our hearts broken yesterday. But guess what we do get

(01:50):
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Speaker 2 (02:38):
Get excited, folks. We can't give out the exact date.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
There's still some logistics to work out that we want
to nail down before we give out the exact date.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
But don't worry.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Thanks to everybody for your patients. Stay tuned, Simon. This
is the strip down in the room eves dropping version
of Sharper Square, in which you and I will try
to nail down our final five picks. Now that we've
got injuries, we've got latest line moves.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Are you ready, my brother?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
All right?

Speaker 1 (03:08):
These are the games that we zered in on the
other day. Reminder to everybody we loved the Rams on
Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
This is already a loss for us.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
We're moving on. Honestly, I'd play it again. I played
again every time home team short week against a team
with the backup QB, two backup wide receivers missing its
defensive end, got a good number that moved in our direction.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
We're not changing that decision.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Things happened. I think they had what was it two fumbles.
Their defense just played terrible, And you know, that's why
we love what we do. It's it's all, at the
end of the day, madness and randomness and uh yeah,
the biggest thing to come out of that game. Obviously
it hurts us in the contest, whereas people unfortunately like you,
Chad took the RAMS and Survivor. That is just that's

(03:57):
why Survivor's so tough. It's like that was such they
had to lose that way in that game in a
million different ways for you to lose that Survivor bed
So yeah, awful way to start our week. Zho and one.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I feel like an adult because at halftime of that game,
I'm like, you know what, I got a big day tomorrow.
I got to get up early. I'm just going to bed.
I save myself three hours of misery by going to
bed at halftime of that game.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I woke up.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
So we lost in overtime, and I'm like, well, I'm
so glad I wasn't watching that another game. It's going
to be controversial. Houston Texans right now are one and
a half point favorites over the Baltimore Ravens in the
contest we currently play. This won't be true when we
have the contest for Sharper Square. In the contest we
currently play that line locked at three and a half.
We can only play the lines as they're given to us.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Those are the rules.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Obviously, we're going to take Houston at plus three and
a half given the way the lines have moved over
the course of the week with Lamar Jackson, and this
was a move that you predicted on Tuesday. As Simon says,
do we still put it in the contest?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yep, locking in that's the quick one three and a half.
Gotta take it for Houston.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
New York Giants at New Orleans Saints minus one and
a half for the Saints right now. Look, you mentioned
on Thursday this is gonna be one of your biggest bets.
I went against all my beliefs, partially because.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Of what you said.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Even though the Saints opened it plus two and they
are now one and a half. I went against all
my beliefs. I've bet on the Saints as one and
a half point favorites. We've seen this comeback to bite
us with the lime flip even a couple times this year.
We saw it with the Ravens game opening against the Bills.
We saw it with the Raiders game against the Bears.

(05:43):
We had plus one and a half in that one,
so we got lucky. But man, this is a dangerous,
dangerous catch a falling knife scenario.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, still on it. But I'm like you, I'm leaking
cough and says the week goes along because it is
the Saints, and uh, it's it's a little scary. But
the only thing I could take out of it that
makes you feel a little better is the Sharper books
are still at minus two and a half on the
Saints team, so at least we know the professional money
is on our side. But I'm getting a little worried

(06:17):
it's become I thought it would be more love for
this giant side, and most guys I've talked to just
seem like they're on on the Saints with us. So
this this might be the fifth or sixth one right now?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Wait, why are you leaking confidence? If everyone's with us?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
You don't want you don't want that, you don't want
to be that. I want to at least here one
one or two other guys breaking me breaking it down
by the right side is the Giants. Everyone has the
same thought process as us, though You're you're fading a
rookie QB after a huge emotional win at home against
an incredibly desperate Saints team. So again, I'm still on
the Saint time you just said it, I'm heavily invested

(06:51):
into it. Will it be one of our four today?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, that's what it's going to come down here. Like
I we got a couple of games in here that
I think are very much on the edge, and I
want to be very thoughtful about this. So I'm going
to have I have a comment at the end based
on something you said on Thursday that we'll get to
Dallas at the New York Jets. Jets are currently one

(07:15):
and a half.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
This was our brass balls bet of the week.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I think it takes a true set of brass balls
that can sustain a maximum kick to the groin because
we will suffer for sixty minutes watching this game. We
like the matchups, we like the situation. We like the

(07:42):
Jets offense against this miserable Cowboys defense. We like the
spot for the Jets looking bad in prime time versus
a Dallas team that looked magnificent in a tie in
prime time. We got the value. If you were listening
during the week, you were able to get the Jets
at a much much better number. I think in the contest,

(08:05):
the Jets are at plus two and a half.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I love it, but it's the same exact thing as
the Saints. Every prof talked to is right there with us,
But luckily for us, every public guy I've talked to
is on the Cowboys. So yeah, this is pros versus
Joe's good number, good spot. I already know a thousand
different ways we're gonna lose this bet. Yeah, but we're
getting a great number. Gotta lean to it. This is
what we do plus two and a half. I'm glad

(08:29):
that you know we talked. There's like three games we
debated for our brass Balls bet, and I'm happy we
settle on this one because it obviously was the best
number this week that we gave out. It's key number
of two and a half. The pros have coming incredibly
heavy on it. I mean even now, there's some books
popping plus one on this Jet side. So even if
you missed the two and a half, you want to
join us. I don't hate the plus one and a half,

(08:51):
but I would not take the plus one.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, that's this line has completely moved to one and
a half in one, so I'm with you. I would
still take the Jets one and a half. So we're
not just giving away a bad line here. Jets feel
like they're going to be in for us, to be honest,
Kansas City, at the Jacksonville Jaguars mostly three and a half.

(09:13):
At hard Rockets three, it's still three and a half
everywhere else.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
This was Chad Loves.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
You were very reluctantly on this train, only after hearing
what the wise guys had said in sharp calls, and
then admittedly looking a bit more at the Jacksonville defense
and wondering if you've gotten too biased on the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
But but.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
We do not have to like this, don't You don't
like this as one of our five. I don't think
it will only be here because you want to blame
me for the entertainment value, which I am all for.
Here's what I would say to my comment earlier the
other day, You're like, you got a nut up. We
got to put this in the contest. Here's my take
on the contest. The only pride I get from the

(10:03):
contest it's finishing with a winning week. I don't care
if it's a pick you made that I was against.
I don't care if it's a pick I made that
you were against. I just want to finish with a
winning week. So if we don't like this as much
as we like the other two picks that we're going
to talk about, including our Rock and her Place hard
Rock bet of the Week, I could care less.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
If we put it in.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
We should care. It's your bet, so it to me
you care.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Well, I already had it in the contest because to me,
it's it's a game that if you believe in you
should take a stand on. It's your favorite bet of
the week. You gave it on Tuesday. I don't have
a position on it, but I told you the smart
money agrees with you, and you're getting a good number.
It's three and a half in the contest. So, like
I said, if you believe in it, you love it,
I'm happy to put it in because I think it's

(10:50):
a good number. And I'm already down oh one this
week on that RAMS one, so I'll offer it to
you if you want it in, it can get in.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
No problem is this is not how we're doing it.
It's not a out pride. It's about getting to a
winning number.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
And right now, winners, give me a winner. If this
is your winner of the week, give it to me.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
If you're already of it, We're already won one.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
We got to win three or four games over the
next two days, so we can only afford to lose
one more game.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
We've got two more games. I want to discuss it.
Think that way, well, listen, well, we have to think
that way, because that's the reality. We have to be Intelli.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's your two micro right now. You're you're your two micro.
You're you're not a truth sports betters, do not think
the way you're talking right now. I'll be honest with you.
Chat you're sounding very immature.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I'm not immature.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
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turf drinking beers in College Park till late on Friday
night with college kids.

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(13:40):
that we would want it to. It's at four and
a half. In most places you can get it at four. Simon,
this is our rock and a hard place. Hard rock
better the week at a lot. We're both on the Broncos.

(14:02):
The pros are on the Broncos. It's a matchup of
a relatively unlucky team in the Broncos versus what has
been a very lucky team in the Eagles. Do we
put this in instead of the Saints? Do we put
this in instead of the Jags?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I could get there putting this over the Saints. It's
another game though, That's like, I don't get why I
went back up to four and a half. It went
down to three and a half at every book. Yeah,
I know, and it's been bumped up to four four
and a half at every other book. So it's another
game where I'm a little scared that there's a blind
spot here. And you know, looking at the five I
put in, this was one of the original five I

(14:45):
did put in. So like again, I'm it's tough for
me to move off certain games. This one I'm trying
to be open to moving off of because I like
it too much. Where once again, everyone knows there's something
wrong with this Eagles team. This is a good matchup
for Denver. This is a great number for Denver. What
are we missing here? So I'm like, yeah, I wish

(15:06):
I had someone else here that could talk me out
of it. But I like the four and a half.
But if I had to choose between this or the Saints,
I would definitely feel more comfortable taking a four and
a half.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, I mean, I take I'd be more comfortable taking
a four and a half with a really good defense
versus a number that moved from plus two to minus
one and a half on a quarterback who has never.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Won a game number one in his career in his career, right, all.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Right, last game that we can think about, and then
we'll make a call. Washington at the LA Chargers. This
was the second Simon says you were prescient on the Texans.
You said take the Texans at plus three and a
half on Tuesday. The show was live for an hour
maybe two at the most when that game moved because
of auto Lamar Jackson noise to making the Texans a favorite.

(15:56):
Jaden Daniels will be playing most of the Chargers starting
there off offensive line will not I'm starting to like
this game more than any other game we are picking
right now, and I know if we leave it out,
we will lose whatever game we keep in its place.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
It's fair. It's it's two and a half still in
our contest, and.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Three two and a half and three out there right now,
right now.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah. Yeah, for people that are betting, I'd grab the
three obviously. For us, we're talking to two and a
half and My only fear here is this is the
exact same situation as I made everyone take Denver a
couple of weeks ago, where it's like it's a it's
a good line, a good spot Denver's defense, and I
guess bo Nick's blew it at the end, right, And
we're putting a lot of faith that Daniels won't blow

(16:48):
it in the end here. And I don't know if
you saw the footage of him with that knee brace
on and him moving, he's not the same for this line,
even with McLaurin out as not butched. That's the most
interesting part to me that this two and a half
is held, because when I gave it out, I gave
it out thinking, okay, this could easily drop if all
these guys get cleared, and you know, this could get

(17:10):
down to one and a half. And with the other way,
there was a point a time where I got to
three and a half. So the fact that a couple
of these very public books, I've been taking NonStop chargers
money and they're holding a two and a half, it's
no different than us backing the Chiefs last week and
for good measure, the Jags this week. Like this is

(17:31):
the books are taking positions on these lines. I agree
with them, my model agrees with them. It's all about,
like I said to you, nutting up, that's the same
thing here where it's like I'm leaking confidence on the
Saints and I'm leaking confidence on this game. But I've
been betting both of them multiple days in a row,
and it's like, okay, I'm right there with you. Where

(17:51):
it's like we have a good number, a good spot
in this Commander's team against a Chargers team that's still
being valued like they are pretty healthy. Like this, I
just wanted to check my model if the Charges were
fully healthy, and watching it was fully healthy, what my
model would make that line had my Charger in minus
six and a half in the spot. So I've taken

(18:13):
three and a half four points just to the books
line off my line of what they would be healthy.
So it's just an interesting number where I could be
undervalue this Chargers team right now. But I don't think
I am. I think they are just not the team
we all thought they were even just two three weeks ago,
with all these injuries they've had, and we're putting faith
in the number with the books here honestly for back

(18:35):
of the commanders here, Jed So obviously we both wish
this was three and a half. We're taking two and
a half. I would still play if I once again,
if I had to take this over the Saints. I
would if I had to take it over Denver's that's
a tough conversation staying with the Jacks.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Why don't we do this, Let's take the Saints out.
We keep mentioning every time I would take this over
the Saints. I would take this over the Saints. Clearly
don't have a ton of confidence in the Saints, even
though even though we know at this point as we
say this, the Saints are going to win twenty seven
or nothing, so we can take out the Saints. It

(19:13):
comes down really to Jags Broncos. Commanders. We're locked in
with the Rams, obviously we lost. We're locked in with
the Texans, We're locked in with the Jets.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
So we have to two locked in.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
We have we have two locked in for today, we
need against three.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
What's the what's the one we want out? I'll let
you pick, because you're you're again you're waving on the Jacks.
Pick if you if you fill in your soul brother,
I want you to put it in because again I
bet it now, I'm I'm on it with you. But
it's like it's that's going to be your one plant,
big big bet this week. This is my team. And
again we get to wait till Monday night, which is

(19:51):
even better.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I know it's miserable, it's miserable. I really want to
take the Jacks, Okay, so I'll take.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I'll take. So we got the we got the Jags
and then.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Houston.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
And who do you want now, between Commis or Denver?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Who do you want? If we do? If we do Denver,
we're basically done at one o'clock. After the one o'clocks.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Every time I want to say Denver, I actually want
to put the commanders in every time. I feel so
aggressive every time I say Denver.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
No, let's do Commanders then, because I love the commanders too.
I just can't get over that such a If we
get burned the lands on three again, I'll I'll look forward.
I won't make us better against the Chargers if it's
under three.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Well, look that.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
That's the point though, like that, like let's not discount
the number, Like the number is a big deal. We're
getting the four and a half with Denver. We're getting
the two and a half with the Commanders.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
I know, but like I always tell you, the books
aren't our friends.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
All right, So we're going with the Commanders, all right.
All right?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Then the final four that we're doing because we already
lost the Rams, we got the Texans. We get a
plus three and a half in the contest. We know
their favorites now, but we can only play the lines
that are presented. If you were listening to Tuesday Show,
then you were able to get the Texans at plus
three and a half. We're doing the Jets at plus

(21:29):
two and a half. We're doing the Jags at plus
three and a half. On Monday Night, we're doing the
Commanders at plus two and a half. But you can
get a three with the Commanders out there, so go
and get it. Reminder, we're coming back with a free
to play Sharper Square contest. Dates will be determined and
shared in the next couple of weeks, but there will

(21:49):
be a contest that we're all going to get.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
To play together.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
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