The Best Of Covino & Rich

C&R react to the horrible Jayson Tatum injury! There's big Pete Rose/Shoeless Joe Jackson news & they react to the NBA Draft Lottery being "rigged!" They slide head first into the Pete Rose story! The guys have a great discussion about the timing of it all! Plus, some Ray Liotta love, 'SHAQ DIESEL TRIVIA' & tonight's NBA action! 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, thanks for listening to the best of Kabino and
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searching the FSR. Feel bad for the Celtics fans? Feel

(00:25):
bad for Jason Tatum? I feel bad for beatim. I
don't you feel bad for Celtics fans? Be it Celtics fans? Yeah,
because I mean, look, I understand that they're a hateable
franchise and defending champions all that stuff, but you don't
want to see star players no down. So I'm bad
Danny G. I could promise you feels bad for Jason
Tatum as a human. Do you think Danny G, a
lifelong Lakers fan, feels bad for the Celtics fans.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Jason Tatum's a little different though, because he's a long
time Kobe supporter.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, so, I mean I wish Tatum was a Laker.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I feel bad for any fan who watches their superstar
go down an injury like that.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I thought the wheelchair was a bad move, though I
would have waved it off. Yea, if I'm a Celtic.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
The Celtics poop their pants and wheelchairs from what I understand,
in a key situation. And again, the Ezualdo Cabrera injury,
which I was glued to last night, was such a
somber broadcast and no one's really speculating before we get
into all the fun stuff rich right and the Mavericks.
Big night rigged, as everyone is saying, which is ridiculous,

(01:22):
But we'll get there. Just one quick question. Ten to five,
ninth inning, you tag up to get that eleventh run.
No one's really questioning that. Was it that important for
the dude to extend himself on a sacrifice fly when
they were up ten to five in the ninth Yeah,
I'll tell you what I mean. Maybe we can ask
him because no one's speculating on that. Everyone's just really

(01:44):
talking about how unfortunate that injury was. His ankle four
point eighty but still just a fracture. He's on the
ten day DL and now le Mayhew's off the DL,
so that's how that works out. Ten day. He might
as well put him on the one thousand days with that,
But you saw that at well as of now, that's
what they're saying. But I'll tell you why they did
the tag up. You're right, they're up five runs ninth inning.
It's low risk, like it wasn't. If the Eagles are

(02:07):
up seventeen with three minutes ago and Sakwon gets hurt
because he's in the game, bonehead move. If Mahomes gets
sacked and the Chiefs are up or down twenty one
points in the fourth quarter, you know, asinine play a
tag up from third? What is it? One in a million?
But there's a better chance of the Mavericks winning the

(02:28):
draft water He tried to avoid the catcher. He goes
around the bag, his speed and his momentum locks his ankle,
distorts his body in a weird way, spins his ankle.
His whole leg looked like it was backwards in that moment,
and a real painful, somber situation for a really well
liked and fun got to root for Oswalda Cabrera, so

(02:51):
wishing him and Tatum the best moving forward. But let's
get into the other fun stuff and we'll talk more
about that later on. Of course. Gruesome injuries and your
reaction to them, I want to get to that. But
last night, dude, not only a Nix and Timberwolf sort
of night, a Mavericks sort of Notrick with the number
one pick in the lottery obviously getting Cooper flag from

(03:13):
Duke and the Spurs got the number two pick. Did
you call him goober flag because he's a little goobersh
Now I called you a goober? I said Cooper flag,
goober flag. And you know everyone's saying rig today because
there was a one percent chance of this happening. You know,
Nico Harrison feeling a sense of relief. Maverick fans are like,
what the odds of the MAVs and Spurs landing the

(03:34):
one and two were one in one thousand, and the
MAVs Spurs sixers combo in the top three was one
in ten thousand, So odds were way against this happening.
It makes you scratch your head and say, what, well
I want to put in perspective, guys, I did that,

(03:54):
did the math? There was a better chance of Lloyd
Christmas getting with Mary so Onson, I don't think he
had a one percent chance. So you're saying there's a chance.
I think that we all felt the same way. I
went to the gym right after the show yesterday.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
So you're telling me there's a chance one.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
In a billion.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
You tell the Jim, why don't you break about it?
Was that your first time this month? Look at these pecks, bro.
So I go to the gym and without fail, the minute,
Danny G texts me and he's like, Yo, people are
gonna say it's rigged. You watch Danny, They didn't skim
a beat. The dude checking in with his little phone
scanner at the desk was like, yo, you see that

(04:34):
Mavericks first word rigged.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
It was the hot envelope scandal.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
And the guy behind the desk is like, Yo, the
NBA is totally rigged. And I watched it firsthand. The
chit chat at the gym simultaneously Danny G saying social
media is blowing up saying rigged, Well, hold on, how could.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
You not think that when there is a one percent
chance of that.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
One?

Speaker 7 (04:57):
Fine?

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Howve you? Or Sam?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
And then when you think about all the ups and
downs the team just went through with trading Luca out
of nowhere overnight, all the controversy there surrounding the ownership,
all the injuries that went.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Down this part of the deal.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Everybody chanting fire Nico, and all of a sudden they're
number one with a one point.

Speaker 7 (05:19):
Eight behind this. This was part of the deal.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
So I'm not saying that's the case.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I'm saying I understand that people are buzzing about it. Wait,
the same people that are behind this, are they the
same people that write the script for the NFL?

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Okay, No, that's fair.

Speaker 8 (05:34):
Ri.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
People are saying that's that's craziness. Is crazy talk to
think that sort of thing. But we also like to
think that there's no cheating with officiating and things like that.
Yet we've seen it and known it to be true.
One of my favorite potential scandals of all time because
I think it really is tricky and awesome. Yeah, but
how many times do people say that the officiating's rigged
and they're like, get out of here, dude. Yeah, Donnie

(05:55):
admitted it, and we have the proof. So it's not
like it's impossible that these things could happen, and there's
a reason why there's a bus and Rich's low probability.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
I do understand Rich.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
You always point out about judges ex judges and lawyers
and people involved in our pre show meeting. We're talking
about a law firm maybe presiding over the NBA draft,
And I looked it up though it says the NBA
handles the legal aspects of the NBA draft through its
own internal legal department.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
So it's not like where they have the Oscars or
the Grammys and they're like well represented by it.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
They have their own lawyers in house, their own counsel.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, I'll say this, one of my favorite potential scandal
slash conspiracies is the nineteen eighty five Nicks Patrick Ewing draft.
Where was the envelope frozen and cold so that whoever
stuck their hand in was like I said, it was
the hot Yeah, like ooh like, and it's the knicks

(06:54):
that aren't.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Really that's a stretch though.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
You think you could dig your hand in a bunch
of envelopes and the cipher which one's the cold? I
told you, Yeah, If I told you there's you know,
at that time, twenty something envelopes in a in a
you know you're gonna be able to pick the one
out of twenty seven that feels cold. The cold doesn't
transfer onto any envelope, it's just the one, dude. It

(07:16):
was in there with your auto pops and it was
like if one if is like Danny g said Hamlin,
Hamlin and McGill are involved in this, so it has
to be legit. Well, all I'm saying is nowadays though,
where there's social media and people love to speculate and
everyone is a little sleuth, right, Everyone wants to be
their own little solving murder. You know podcast, You don't

(07:39):
think that someone would be investigating the whole process.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
What is it is?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
It?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Is it like lottery balls?

Speaker 8 (07:45):
Right?

Speaker 5 (07:45):
I mean I didn't watch last night. What do we
what are we doing these days?

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
It's it's like lottery balls, right, I mean one weighted
was one with and then hot balls scandal. One ball
was actually it was extra hot for the Mavericks. Oh
there was a warm one for the Spurs in the
case of the old hot ball. Yeah, the old hot
ball scandal. This one doesn't involve rich you know what.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
To me, those balls are perfect.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah, there was a get somebody to like lean into this.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Remember when Lebron did that pretty open interview with Pat McAfee,
he talked about the NBA being rigged to listen.

Speaker 9 (08:22):
Listen man during the ball drop you know during the
lottery drop Cleveland got the number one pick.

Speaker 10 (08:28):
That's I just don't think that was just keep Lebron home,
you know what, Patrick going to the Knicks, you know,
Darren Rose to the bull.

Speaker 9 (08:45):
I understand Simon, guys, you know, so you know I
had to make sure that, you know, I had to
do my part.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
He's also being a little cheeky there, joking around, insinuating
there's some truth to it. But I'm just joking, and
I want to know how you got feel about it.
Before we took about reactions to injuries and Shack diesel trivia.
The other big story of the night, the Mavericks with
the number one pick Spurs number two?

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Do you believe that it could be rigged?

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Anything's possible, right, And I'm gonna tell you that I
choose to believe that the Mavericks just got really lucky.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know, it's it's improbable, not impossible. Then, so we
saw the one point eight percent chance happened, which is wild.
That's like, get that's what I like to It's like
getting stricken by light. Yeah, it happens bitten by a shark, kid,
you know, it happens to people and that's why they
were pumped about it getting a plane crash. They're all acting,
and they're all in on it.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
If you want some lottery numbers to play later, the
winning combination of ping pong balls that earned Dallas the
number one pick ten fourteen eleven and seven. Oh, those
are the numbers right now, ten, fourteen eleven seven.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
You know, Danny g I want yeah, you, Sam, Dan
Bayer Covino. In fact, I want the Fox Sports Radio
Nation to hit us up eight seven, seven, nine nine
on Fox. For anyone that genuinely thinks maybe it is Rake,
maybe this is the Denver Airport, or maybe this is
we landed on the moon.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Maybe not?

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Is this the who shot JFK. If you believe in
you know, all the wild conspiracies Earth is flat? The
Earth is flat? All right, Kyrie, then answer me this
for real. I'm not mocking. I'm curious. How do you
think they did it? Do you think it was a
weighted ball? Do you think the league got in with
the owners because no owner would agree to this, So

(10:38):
you think it was a one on one like Nico
Harrison Mavericks meeting, like, hey, listen, we did you solid
Lucas a light for that to happen, Yeah, you have
to have some sort of plan, right, and some sort
of schemery. And then like Danny g insinuated, anyone that
sow them that the law firm is involved in, anyone
that would blow the whistle can't be involved. So this
says to be like a secret inside job. So if

(10:58):
you think that, you know, oh twenty you know this
is a shady saw Goodman.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
It is their own lawyers now employed by the NBA
in house. Like I said, Saw Goodman, they could, Yeah,
they could be in on it. So if you think
you would hope they're not.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
If you think Shenanigans may play it was his name,
Jimmy McGill. Yeah, but sip Jimmy slipping jim slipping Jimmy situation,
I think, wait, is slipping Jimmy involved? Yeah, so I
said Hamlin Hamlin McGill. I know, but yeah, slip in Jimmy,
because that's extra shady. If you think everyone's involved in
that way, is that impossible?

Speaker 5 (11:33):
No, But I don't.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Think that's happening. You know, for every conspiracy, I didn't.
I never believed that frozen envelope this situation. The first
thing I always ask myself, in a conspiracy, is how
many people would have to completely shut their mouth be
involved being on it without blowing, you know, whistle blowing?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I believe that I believe more in the Colombian alien
sphere that they found this week more than I believe
that this was rigged. Yeah, damn, buy You're a reasonable guy,
are you? Are you just minding your own now because
you feel like it's all hogwash? Or do you think
there's some some possibility that there's you know, injustice, it's rigged,
it's a tomfoolery.

Speaker 11 (12:13):
I do feel that there is an undercurrent of possible
tomfoolery or rigging, if you will. I am not happy
that the Mavericks were the ones who were to benefit
from it, and that would be the team that you
can most likely connect to the rigging, not because of
them being the Mavericks, but because they gave Luca to
the Lakers. That's if Luca was traded to the Orlando Magic.

(12:38):
I don't think that there's a hey, here's a solid,
here's a tip of the cap, but hey, thanks so
much for putting one of our premier superstars to take
the torch from Lebron and our golden franchise and be
able to carry that on, so I could, I could
see it.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I put it.

Speaker 11 (12:52):
At fifty percent earlier, which it was a bit of
a stretch, but maybe around twenty twenty five percent.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Words I you know, Dan Byer, It's it's interesting because
that sense of while the Luca you know, to the
Lakers thing nevericks, seem to be rewarded for this, well
you hate to think that's true, but of course as
possible at the beginning, middle, end, end of the day.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
It's a business.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
So if it's good for the league, it's good for everybody,
and it could be just a business move, and they're
just well, don't you know if you're trying to make
us believe that this is the truth? You know how
it's all you know, what people love to say, and
I don't know if this is true. I'm just repeating
something I've seen on social media, which is the problem
with most conversations nowaday. So my apologize every time people

(13:41):
talk about well, the NFL, oh, you have the script
and it's rigged. People love to plo out the fact
that the NFL is registered as an entertainment league or
something to the nature that like they're off the hook.
If something ever came out like that, have you seen
people say stuff like that. I don't know about the
legality of it's registered as an entertainment league, but even

(14:06):
in the fight game, anytime you see something go down
like this, the first thing they always say is, look,
this is still entertainment.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
They're trying to get people to watch. They're trying to
get people to tune in. It's all about ratings and money.
How many times has its fight the league? It's possible.
How many times can we know, has the fighter that
they needed to win to set up another big fight
lost in a close fight, but they won on the
car because in a month or so people will forget because.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Well, fighting's rigged, right.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
We know that there's definitely rigging going on shadiness in
the fight game, but it's also a business, and you
also want to be able to sell a fight. And
if you can't sell a fight because there's no personality
behind it, then you're failing in that entertainment factor of
the sport, right, which is part of it.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
This is just good for the league.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
A lot of drama for the league, which could sell
the league, which could be more money, more ratings, like
Dan Byron sinuated a little backscratch for the Mavericks.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
And we saw a lot of that good deal last night.
We saw a lot of that as far as the
Lakers go. Like it says, Chris Paul was traded from
New Orleans to LA, and then New Orleans gets the
number one pick. Ad was traded from New Orleans to LA.
New Orleans gets the number one pick. Right Luca traded
from Dallas to LA. Of course, Dallas gets the number
one pick. Lebron left Cleveland for Miami. Cleveland gets three

(15:31):
of the four next four number one picks, including the
one when Lebron came home for the trade for Kevin Love.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, it just looks bad.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
It kind of feels like it looks really bad when
you list all that out, Danny g But it kind
of feels like how the WWE gave up the rules
of it being real at one point, right, because they
always stayed in the character and then all of a
sudden they stopped the NBA and fighting and sports. They
still put up that illusion that ruse that it's legit,

(16:02):
when maybe it's all planned out or maybe it is legitimate,
but they still are legit. I don't know that it's
it's not impossible. I do believe that it's improbable. I
do believe that they just got lucky. But it's not impossible, dude,
from a business standpoint. From a standpoint, yeah, when there's
that much money involved and if it's good for the
league and favors are being done well. Yesterday we went

(16:25):
over businessmen try to pull one over on anybody, and
they think the viewing audience is dumb. We went over
the possible landing spots for a Cooper Flag yesterday with
Dan Bayer, and of the top three highest odds, we said,
maybe Utah gus I got good coaching and they're revamping
that that that basketball program, and maybe the Utah Jazz
was a good landing spot. But the other options seems
sort of like like the way you go to die.

(16:47):
You know, no offense like Charlotte hornets Washington. Yeah, no fens.
So you know, you take a guy like Cooper Flag
and you put him on a team with Kyrie and
a d both healthy, you do not you don't have
a team that like might compete. You have a team
that could will be a top five team in the West. Oh,
they're back in it. Yeah, for sure, they're in the
mix again without a doubt. You know, he went from

(17:08):
possibly playing for a twenty win team to a contending team. Yeah,
that would be the difference there, That would be the
assumption anyway for Cooper flag hop balls. It's the hot
ball theory. You heard it here first the hot balls
scandal with the Mavericks, not the not the frozen envelope,
the hot balls, the hot ball. Personally, I think it's magnets.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
How did it work? How magnets?

Speaker 12 (17:30):
No, I don't care, Okay, but what if it's magnets, Well,
how do they work?

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Well?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Think think about you know when you're when those balls
are popping around like your Yo Lando Vega with the
you know the lottery numbers, they're all ping pong balls, right,
I mean what you're right?

Speaker 5 (17:44):
What if there's magnets.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Sam.

Speaker 11 (17:46):
The Knicks theory in nineteen eighty five for Patrick Ewing
was the as you guys were saying, frozen envelope, bent corner. Yeah,
but you visually could see the tumbler. You could visually
see the envelope.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Right.

Speaker 11 (17:58):
What makes this so seektive is no one sees it.
All we see is them unveiling the cards from the
predetermined lotto drawing coming out of the hopper. That was
one person saw, maybe two people saw. Like that adds
actually more to the theory of what is going on
behind closed doors as opposed to maybe sleight of hand

(18:21):
that happened right in front of you forty years ago.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
You know, Richie, you're just not in the room where
it happens.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Stevie, that's such an amazing point, because you know, I'll
be honest. I gotta be honest with you guys. Perhaps
because I was at the gym and I didn't see it.
Every time I've seen the draft lottery, you know winners.
You're right, it's they. They're all sitting there and they
hold up the logo of the team. I thought, maybe
someone did see this. And if you're confirming that no
one really sees the balls being picked, then.

Speaker 11 (18:48):
And there's someone from a law firm, maybe two people
in the room. A couple people are the ones that
conduct it because they don't want any leaks, they don't
want any drama, but'll.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Uenveloup some money. What's this of Hey, Charlotte Hornets, you
like being in the league, right, Yeah? She that does
seem like it's fair. We're doing a speculating guys, nobody
really knows. As I mentioned, we're not in the room
where it happens. But when there's that much money to
be made and that much money to be had and

(19:18):
spent and bought, anybody could be bought to shut up
and let it happen because it's good for the league.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
They used to show the actual drawing of the Ping
Pong po.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It was like, yeah, like a lot, like an actual
lot exactly. Let me bring up one more point. And
this is by no means to be insensitive, but you know,
we were living in New York during nine to eleven,
and you know there are people that have all crazy
conspiracies about terrible days like that. And I will say,
you saw planes hit towers, awful, you saw things happen.

(19:51):
The fact that they never released footage of a plane
hitting the Pentagon is why people are like, what really
hit the Pentagon? You could put that to rest if
there were video of that. Not to compare one of
the worst days in US history to an NBA lottery,
but when you don't have the visual proof of something,
it leaves your mind open to wander.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
But plus you never saw the.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Plane parts really yeah, so it's like you never saw
real evidence and people just want the evidence.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
That's it.

Speaker 12 (20:18):
But if you leave it in this day and age, though,
people will get the evidence and the Internet will just
be like, well, no, we can explain this away.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
We can ask that a way, you know what. That's
what Danny g was insinuating. We were having our little
pre show meeting in the lobby when Shaq Diesel was
walking in. We said, hey, it's up Shack. He's like,
what are you guys talking about. You were saying how
you can have the proof right there in your face
and you're still gonna believe what you want. Everything points
into the direction of man Man is fixed, and even me,

(20:48):
I don't want.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
To believe it.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Really, Like, come on, I want to feel like I
want to feel like, even though we're all the evidence,
is there for you to believe that, there's no way, dude.
I want to feel like, even though we're the lightest,
most fun show on sports radio, I'd like to think that,
you know, we don't take anything too serious. We're having
a lot of fun. I still think we're above saying conspiracy,
But I there's a part of me.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
It's like you know me and me. It is kind
of wild.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Ah, And I think social media has sort of conditioned
our minds.

Speaker 12 (21:14):
To amplify it a lot of crazy thoughts. Yeah, yeah,
to it'd be like ads, get out of here. I'm
not believing that.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Because you see so much hotwash and bs on social media,
your automatic default now is like, nah, that can't be true.
I'll believe it when I see it. And we're seeing
this right before our eyes, but our default is nah,
they wouldn't do that. Come on, I mean they think
we're that stupid. Then again, did we really see it

(21:41):
or did we just see names being called? And again,
let me read that once that I thought it was
really interesting. I screenshot it. That's my method here. The
odds of the MAVs and Spurs landing one and two
were one in one thousand MAVs Spurs sixers combo top
three one in ten thousand chants. Not good odds, not
good odds. So it happened yesterday. I congrats to the maps.

(22:05):
You said something off the I just set the point
how it's so true. I was Sam telling us that
his confirmation name is Javier last week.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Might be one of my favorite moments of our show.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
It might it sounds like like like Jerry finding out
that Kramer's middle name was Javier or his real name,
and he's like, what Cosmo, Cosmo. It just sounds like
something you see on a sitcom. It really impacted you
that much. Really, the whitest guy we know, cotton headed

(22:37):
Ninni Muggins, and your confirmation name was Javier from what
really is? Honestly, you are like any sitcom neighbor.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
I was Sam.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Everybody, Thank you, Thank you. All right, now to your
phone calls. We'll wrap up the draft lottery and like
you said, lots of great stuff. We'll get to Pete
Rose and news out of baseball shack, diesel trivia. Let's
go to Big Bird in Georgia, Big Burt.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
You're all at CNR.

Speaker 13 (23:02):
Hey, god, Hey, I just want to make sure it's
Big Burt, not big Butts, like big butt, not Big Burt.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
Hey.

Speaker 13 (23:11):
You know, the whole conspiracy theory is not always rainbows
and sunshine. Speaking as a New York nickname, we got
Patrick Ewan in the shadiest form, but did we ever
get a championship? No, Well, we really need to look
at these Vegas connections with Dallas and the bookies, and
see what Nico.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Bett it on.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
You know our buddy Wes speaking of Vegas, our buddy
Wes in Vegas, one of our good pals, listener of
the show. He did point out something interesting. He goes
so quote conspiracy theories. Over the years, things that we
thought were conspiracies end up being not so conspiracy.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Conspiracy astro.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
He said, some of the some of the things people
thought were facts about COVID nine to eleven. There are
things throughout life where as more and more comes out,
like maybe it's not totally untrue, but parts of it
are our cover ups.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
The tuck rule is still one hundred percent rigged rule.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
But if you've been told your entire life, he said,
that's something or sounds or looks too good to be true.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Probably is bs we smoke.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
There's fire rich what we're we looking at on Reddit.
During the commercial break.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Danny G showed me the feed of when they actually
little ping pong balls are popping up and there was
some lawyers and media on standby, but again where their
pockets lined. Yeah, but never know, they don't really publicize
that broadcast, which is odd. When you think about how
everything's a spectacle. Nowadays everything's a big event. What I

(24:34):
read actual the actual lottery of this. And by the way,
there's an update. It's the old sticky balls conspiracy. It's
not hot balls, sticky balls. They got time constraints. Covin knows.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
What I read is why they've switched it up a
little bit, because, yeah, they used to show the long
process and people fell asleep.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
People's gender reveals and birth announcements are more elaborate than this.
And we're talking the NBA. And again the winning numbers
were ten, fourteen, eleven, and seven. The maps getting the
number one pick sticky balls with the sticky Balls dB.

Speaker 11 (25:03):
There was also only seven teams in the lottery at
one point. Now there's fourteen, so like he didn't have
as many teams in the league at that time, seven
or eight teams.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Another great really fall asleep.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Now it's the opposite of the remember in the Home
Alone two the sticky bandits like you just stick your
hand in, the sticky balls will stick to you. Here
we go, pops up all right, Well, congravs and the
spurs and we're gonna wrap it up with this phone call.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yeah, that's Charles in Florida.

Speaker 14 (25:29):
Hey, Charles's buddy, let's go on calling you from Cape Cole, Florida.

Speaker 9 (25:34):
How you guys doing today?

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Good man?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
What's up?

Speaker 8 (25:37):
All right?

Speaker 14 (25:37):
So it's all rigged, brother, it's all rigged. I mean
I have friends that score. They were gonna stop watching
the NFL when they went to Vegas.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Okay, so what you are? You are one of these guys?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Go to hear his explanation.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I was gonna say, Charles, you're one of these guys
that truly believes sports are rigged.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Did he drop Charles shit?

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Oh my god, the NBA drap they got to him,
They got to him.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Oh no, Charles, he got sniped.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Oh man, sorry, Charles, you knew too much.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
He knew too much?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
All right?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
So hey, NBA Draft Lottery, Uh hey, it was fun yesterday.
I think you know what rigged? Or not? Pretty cool
to think that Cooper flag is going to go to
a team that matters, and instead of watching a young
guy struggle on a bad team, we're gonna watch a
young stud player jump right in with a D and
Kyrie and a squad. So it should be interesting. And

(26:37):
you know, the Spurs are going to get better. Wemby, like,
you're you're setting the NBA up, which is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
You know it would be great Nico trades this pick.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah, I saw those memes yesterday. Hilarious.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
By the way, there is a side question that doesn't
necessarily save his job, does it just because they got lucky.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
No, there's no guarantee that Flag is going to be
a wonderful NBA player.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Right because it's also regulating, Like, oh man, he's all
happy now, It's like, yeah, is he safe?

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I heard I told you about you heard people at
the gym talking about this. I go, you go do
that save Nico Harrison's job? And the guy screamed back me, No,
that be's gonna get fired anyway. I'm like, okay, some
people think his days are numbered regardless, So we shall see.
But let's go to Dan Buyer for an update.

Speaker 11 (27:23):
D B guys, breaking news from Major League Baseball as
they have ended the lifetime bands of seventeen deceased individuals
that includes Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson, taking the
players off of the permanently ineligible list, and a letter
to the attorney for Pete Rose Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred
said quote, a person no longer with us cannot represent

(27:46):
a threat to the integrity of the game. Manfred calling
the move a policy issue, stating the permanent ineligibility ends
upon the passing of the disciplined individual. Now, this does
not mean that Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson will
automatically be in riding Cooperstown completely separate deal. However, they
are now eligible to be enshrinding Cooperstown, as the Baseball

(28:07):
Hall of Fame says, the Historical Overview Committee will develop
the ballot of eight names for the Classic Baseball Era Committee,
which evaluates candidates who made the greatest impact on the
game prior to nineteen eighty, to vote on when it
meets next in December of twenty twenty seven. So if
they were to go into the Hall, they would need
twelve out of sixteen votes from that Classic Baseball Era Committee,

(28:30):
and that vote does not take place for another two
plus years.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studio and it's
time for our ti Iraq Play of the day. Are
the Knicks really just one went away from the Eastern
Conference Finals?

Speaker 15 (28:49):
Yes, rebound Robinson hands took Bridges, who's had the ball
in his hands now for all three nick Quins over
the defending champion Boston Celtics. New York Knicks have done
it again one twenty one, one thirteen, and they've got
the champs back on the ropes a three to one
series lead in the Eastern Conference semi Finals.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Madison Square Garden was popping. I'm telling you New York basketball,
it hasn't been like this since the Ewing Stark State.
Speaking of that frozen envelope and the stars were out. Yeah,
Santa see Jason TAM's injury a little bittersweet as the
Knicks go up three games to one. That's the courtesy
of Knicks Radio Network, and that's the tire rack play
of the day. Real Quick, right Quick, eight seven, seven

(29:31):
ninety nine on Fox. Let's wrap up some of the
other stuff we were talking about. Yeah, I mean, Charles
is back when we thought, uh, you got sniped. Yeah,
Charles in Florida. Your thoughts on you're the guy. You're
the type of guy that thinks a lot of sports
are ranked correct.

Speaker 14 (29:44):
I don't want to believe that I grew up in
Chicago in the nineties and Mike was my damn Yeah,
I wanted to be like Mike. You know, I was
taking the I couldn't un headle up.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
But you know you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Of course man. But you but you think, like you
look at that NFL Draft lottery, the NBA Draft lottery,
and you think to yourself, it's got to be fixed.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
That's your mindset.

Speaker 14 (30:04):
It's gotta be I mean, but the odds, the odds
of like didn't getting both. And then here's the thing,
what about all the other sports too, Like what about
what about the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelcey dingy.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, and it makes a lot of sense as to
why maybe they got rid of Luca. Maybe they had
prior knowledge of that information, they knew that was going
to happen. Maybe that's why it all. It does make
it make more sense, right because in the middle of nowhere,
in the middle of the night, they make that trade
for what. I'll say this. I know what I love

(30:39):
to watch. I trash TV. I heard Spot say smut. No,
that's that Okay, Yeah, it's smut Island. That's what he's watching.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
No.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I I love to watch dumb stuff like ancient aliens
and conspiracy documentaries. But at the end of the day,
in fact, the beginning, middle, one, end of the day,
I don't really believe all of it, but damn it's fun,
and I think when we have these conversations, man, it
really is fun to talk about guys in a secret
room and being like, oh, how the Mavericks are gonna
get the first pick because they gave up Bluke to

(31:10):
the Lakers and did the league of solid It's so
much fun to talk about. But really it didn't happen
that way.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
I like to believe that. Come on the league.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
But some of these sports conspiracies gotta be true, right,
I mean not all of them. Yeah, not everything is
what it appears.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I choose to not believe that just for my own sanity,
Like there's no way, I gotta tell you. I started
doing it myself the last couple of nights because it's
allowed here in California. On Baseball, dude, we talked about
the NBA over unders. I've been doing over under strikeouts
and home runs and it's so fun, honestly. For instance,

(31:53):
like like Aaron Judge home run. You know, yesterday I
missed out because I had Verdlander under four and a
half strikeouts. But you could pick like three things and
it keeps you so locked into just Danly baseball. And again,
this is not an inn fIF this is not an
official commercial. This is me just telling you I'm having
a lot of fun with it. The pick six thing.
You don't have to do six because the odds are tough.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
With Do you got tonight? You pick anything tonight? I'm
gonna go over in a little bit, all right, I
want to look.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
But uh, yeah, we do the codes, uh and the
commercials rightfully so, but I'm telling you personally, I'm really
having fun with that. I was talking to some of
my softball buddies about night.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Dude, we do it. I'm like, you better use our
stupid code, buddy.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
But hey, Pete Rose the big story today, shoeless, Joe
Jackson the big story today. Can I tell you, for
a split second, a split second, you thought it was
Joe Jackson the singer. No, I thought it was Michael
Jackson's dad, Joe Jackson.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
No.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
For a split second, I saw a picture of Pete
Rose and his captain Kangaroo haircut, wearing his red sat
and this says reinstated, and I was like, yeah, he died,
is right, Like I forgot for a split second he
thought it's that Pete Rose resurrected. No, I'm like, oh, man,

(33:07):
look finally, Oh but yeah, he's dead. Breaking news today,
you heard the indmyer. MLB Commissioner Rob Manford removed Pete
Roses and Shoeless Joe Jackson and other deceased players from
the league's permanently ineligible list on Tuesday. Reinstated removed from
MLB's permanent ineligible list. And I'm like, Okay, shoeless Joe

(33:33):
Jackson legend, we know the story, We've seen, feel the dreams,
we know Shoeless Joe Jackson. Yeah, Pete Rose, okay, we
all know his story. A little too little, too late here,
but okay, all right, it makes sense. And then my
other question along with Jay Stu too, because I saw
Jay Stu in the hallway. Yeah. Yeah, he's like, he's like,

(33:56):
Jay who j Stu producer. He's like, my question would be, well, why,
And I'm like.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Ye, give you that eyebrow raised is that big?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Jay?

Speaker 5 (34:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
He's like why, And I'm like, yeah, I know why.
Now it's a big shoe. He actually said, my first.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Question is why on a random Tuesday, May thirteenth because
of what's happening tomorrow and then yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
The detective Yes, like, oh today tomorrow is actually Pete
Rose Day. So it does kind of add up and
make sense. I don't know if that's why it adds up, no,
but it does make it make more sense, right, like
why now? And then then I started thinking too when
I hear Dan Meyer saying and other seventeen other people
on the list, and I'm like, can I mean anyone
else on the list? And then it makes sense. Do

(34:43):
you remember the movie eight Men out?

Speaker 16 (34:45):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Those are right of them? Yeah, eight of them are
from the Black Sox scandal, So most of our black
socks that played with shoeless Joe Jackson, the guys with
the shoes socks most of them and are affiliate with
that scandal from back then.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
So Iowa Sam brought up something about Ray Liota, and
I was laughing because it's exactly what I picture in
my mind.

Speaker 12 (35:09):
Do you You're looking at like MLB Network right now
and you see a picture of Pete Rose and then
a real picture of Joe Jackson, You're like, why isn't real?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Is that?

Speaker 12 (35:17):
Why is that not really Ray Liota's face. You're like,
oh wait, oh, you think of Joe Jackson.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
You're like, can I.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Give you about Raleiota fun fact?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Please do.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
He's from my hometown of Union, New Jersey, and he's
in our Union, New Jersey High School Hall of Fame.
And I was there sitting in the audience when he
was inducted. Goodfellas came out in nineteen ninety I graduated
in ninety four, so he got inducted around ninety one,
ninety two or something like that, fresh off of the
movie Fame, and it was an experience.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
I'll leave it at that. And we later had him
on the show years later. But you in the whole thing, and.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Then you remember him most aside from Goodfellas and Shoeless
Joe Jackson in the Field of Dreams, you know him
best probably from Chanticks Can Dick chanty Am I No,
I'm the Hall of Nothing. How are you not in
the Union Hall of Fame? Because just Raaliota? But go
against Robert wool and uh Arti Lang, Alardy Lang.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
They're all from my hometown.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
No one else, no room for Stevens, no former Yankee, Joe,
Joe Collins, Joe Collins, you should be on the melt
Rush call.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
You can get in there, You should get in Yeah, man,
I think so.

Speaker 11 (36:23):
Of those seventeen players that were on the list, all
of them, in one way or another except two were
tied to gambling of some sort.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
I had to look it up.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, because I'm like, all right, well that there's eight covered, right,
eight men out that famous movie from the was it
late eighties with John Cusack. I remember going to see
it too, the Black Seck scandal. Looked to see if
I knew or recognized any other names, and you really don't.
But they all all are gambling related, which is so
ironic and almost hypocritical in today's world. Look how Rich

(36:57):
just started off this segment. How much fun he's having
gambling on baseball. Yeah, and we're still like holding this
against these guys, and I get it. They broke rules
that applied then one of the other reasons, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (37:10):
Yeah, I was gonna say, don't hold it against Benny
Koff Kavino because just because he was acquitted on an
auto theft charge and was but was still subsequently banned
auto theft and then we all know shuffling Phil Douglas, right,
the old New York Giants player. He was banned after
threatening his manager, so that's why he was on the
ineligible cheffing.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I'm gonna go to chat GPT right now and see
if chat GPT could give Rich an old school baseball nickname.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Please do.

Speaker 12 (37:39):
Cavino has been obsessed with it. It's going to take
four gallons of water to spit that out.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
I got it, I got it.

Speaker 11 (37:46):
I don't scarecrow Rich Davis. Yes, that would be kind
of mine. Maybe it's more Wizard of Oz than anything.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Can we give radio host Rich Davis an old school
baseball nickname? Let's s they come over with.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Double talk Davis see.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Hold on. Perfect for a radio host known for chatting
up a storm. Double talk Davis, Rich the mouse, Rich
the mouthpiece. Davis reflects his role as a vocal personality. Yeah, hey,
there he is. Quick draw Davis with the double quick
suggests double talking to days, double plays.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
A night and fast talking.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Oh there he is slick Davis would play at second base,
a nod to a smooth talker with charm on this one.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
There he is, step into the plate, chatterbox, Davis.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
I think that's the winner. Chatterboat an era appropriate.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, it's bat in two thirteen Chatta Box Davis. So
shoe was Joe Pete Rose. Now I'm not saying this
because I don't want to get on the bedside of
Rob Manford. I don't want any baseball hookups ever taken
away from me. But I'm reading a lot of sentiment online,
like Adam hit us up on X and said, Yo, guys,
I'm big baseball fans like you. I love MLB, but

(39:05):
Rob Manford is a damn coward removing Rose and Shoeless
Joe from the band list because they quote are no
longer with us and cannot represent a threat to the
integrity no threat to the integrity of the game. As
the quote goes, and as you heard from Dan Byer,
it does feel lame and like, yeah, was this really

(39:28):
announcement worthy? We all know that it's like death also
eliminates people from life and imprisonment. His lifetime ban was
lifted from Baseball. Yeah, they're dead. And not to sound morbid,
I joked before and I said, hey, old Barry Bond
should fake his death just to know guys like Barry
Bonds and Roger Clemens the Rocket. Those guys know now

(39:51):
in the back of their head it sounds terrible, but
they're like, I guess when I'm dead one day, nothing
my family will get to see this.

Speaker 11 (39:58):
No, that is not correct, because they are eligible. No
one's voting for that's this is this stipulation with Rose.
It's also not a guarantee that this Classic Committee Baseball
Era committee votes Pete Rose and shueless Joe Jackson, and
they still need to be voted in by the Baseball

(40:19):
Hall of Fame with those separate entity correct And in
nineteen eighty nine when Rose was given his lifetime ban,
there was no ban for the Hall of Fame at
that time. It only came in nineteen ninety one when
Rose was first eligible, that the Hall of Fame said, well,
anybody that's on the permanently ineligible list cannot be enshrined
into the Hall of Fame. Shoeless Joe Jackson actually was

(40:42):
up for enshrinement in the nineteen thirties and nineteen forties
despite being banned.

Speaker 7 (40:46):
The ban for the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 11 (40:47):
Didn't come in until nineteen ninety one, until after Pete
Rose had agreed to his lifetime ban. With Bargie Amati,
but Bonds, all of Clemens, Rafael Palmeiro, a Rod all
have been on the back. Remember we say they get
thirty eight percent of the vote, they get forty percent
of the vote.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
So they're all they're all clean.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
They're all clean.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
For toned in Me, Chatta box Davis, got it all.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
A double take for double talk? Dare he is double talk? Davis?

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, he's offa two today, Chatta Box Davis.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
Oh so funny.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
So to me, it's almost like, yeah, what could he do?
It's almost like you're you're you're making this statement for
some sort of like you know what, Rob Manford, you
did the right thing, you did nothing, they died. I mean,
does anything really matter? Like what you mentioned, I'm not
in the Union High School Hall of Fame. Yeah, is
it gonna mean Diadley squat to me if I'm dead?

(41:46):
Who cares?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:47):
This is like when Kenny Stabler was put into the
Hall of Fame right after he died. I was like,
it sucks the life out of the joy out of it.
I mean, it's you're not giving anyone an honor. You're
just saying they're dead, So it doesn't matter. You're not
giving them anything. They died, there's no more bandlifted. They're
obviously not a threat, you know why, because they're dead.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
It's dumb, the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Just what about the family and the organization like the Reds.
I was gonna say that about the statement about how
happy they are as an organ.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
You know what, It made them much more happy to
see their grandfather and their father and their family member
honored when he was alive and when it mattered. So yeah,
it might help the family legacy a little bit, but
it didn't help anything for Pete Rose. And again it's again,
it's baseball, dude. It's not like he murdered anybody. This guy,

(42:38):
this guy here is dead. Cross him off, then off.
I look at it this way. Kavino and I have
made it a point over the years, and we try
to do this, honor people while they're here. Nothing bothers
me more than when some actor, musician, a great athlete,
someone dies and then everyone decides to, as the kids say,
give them their flowers, give them their flowers.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Swear to God.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
We make a deliberate attempt to try to do that
every once in a while, whether it be here on
Fox sports radio or a Patreon show. You'll just have
a random thought, you'll appreciate somebody. I'm like, you know,
I'm gonna write this down because this dude deserves some
props or some credit. He's been doing it for too long.
He's too great at what he does. No one's gonna
talk about it until he's dead. Let's talk about him now. Yeah,
So that's why I feel bad about this whole Pete

(43:24):
Rose thing. We said it over and over again that
he'll be acknowledged once he dies, and it's exactly what happened.
Is Donald Trump gonna try try to take credit f scress. Ever,
then he say like early on, like we're gonna get
him in.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
That's a whole other conversation in itself. And again it
doesn't matter. It doesn't mean he's gonna be in the
in the Hall of Fame, guys. It just means that
he's eligible now and that he's no longer banned because
he's no longer a threat to the MLB.

Speaker 11 (43:52):
It also, as you brought up the point about the families, Yeah,
and I know Danny brought up Kenny Stabler, but Stable
didn't do anything wrong like they should have They should
have enshrined him. Pete Rose did something wrong. And what
major League Baseball is saying is, we know that he
did something wrong, and if Pete Rose were allied today
and we put this into effect, he would not be eligible.

(44:14):
He still would be on the permanently ineligible list because
he's still alive. The ruling, as Manfred calls it, policy says,
if you are dead, well, then you're done. You are
no longer a threat to the game. You're no longer
you know, could possibly bring any stain to the game.
So that's over with. So with that, the end of

(44:36):
your life means the end of your sentence, which may
give solace to the family or the Reds fans, but
doesn't necessarily put Pete Rose or shoeless Joe Jackson off
the hook because they aren't here to sell. To be see, it's.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Only eligible because he's lifeless Joe Jackson.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Yes, that is correct.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
And by the way, yes, think of how long that
Joe Jackson family had to wait to get this news.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
How long is that I've been dead for?

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (45:02):
It's ridiculous, like probably like the FDR, it's a weird announcement,
you know, that's my fi Jo Jackson.

Speaker 12 (45:08):
How long he's been dead? Yeah, Jason Sewart said he
had been dead for seventy one years.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
He died December fifth, nineteen fifty one.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
Seventy one years.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
It's been dead, what seventy three years, seventy four years,
whatever it is? He was no threat seventy one years ago.
But now we announce it. I guess better late than ever.
You can't have a death sentence, I mean you can.
You're gonna have a life sentence then when you die.
Was it eight eight man out for for a lifetime

(45:38):
and seventy one years?

Speaker 16 (45:39):
Now?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Listen again, No, you know, with no disrespect to you know,
victims and major crimes. Right, yeah, But you ever see
someone in court they hand down some piece of trash,
some real piece of s like back to back to back,
all these life sentences, and you're like, one's enough. What
Like I get it, because you want to make sure
that the people that were affected have their their justice,

(46:03):
their feeling. But like there are times that it's like
thirty years to life for this count. This counts thirty
years and a guy is serving like five back to
back consecutive.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Life This guy to live to three hundreds.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Not going to live five lives. It's it's symbolic, it's
in a message, but I'm saying symbolic. But I think
there's something well meaningful to those times.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
They always say banned for what? Banned for life?

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Right?

Speaker 5 (46:25):
That would that's what you would think.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
So it's implied, isn't it implied that when they die
the ban is lifted. Oh but not for Joe Jackson
and the other eight guys, it was it was for
life plus seventy one.

Speaker 11 (46:36):
Man Manfred said that banned for life was never a
part of this series. Permanent least an eligible list. Now
what he and that's what he said. They called it
policy that now they could be taken off the list
and allow this to be put in the hands of
the Baseball Hall of Fame. I brought this up earlier.
I'm going to try it again in it because it
didn't didn't sound right. So maybe I'm I'm gonna be

(46:57):
double talk Davis here double talk. But earlier today on
the network on Doug Show, the Menendez trial is front
and center here in southern California, and I don't know
if it's that way across the country, but there is
I think that there are parallels, they may not be
exact to what's going on, but again there was a
questioning about the sentencing and how that went out. It

(47:18):
was the same thing with Pete Rose, where he thought
that he would be able to renegotiate his entrance into
Major League Baseball after a year, but decided to accept
this agreement to say that he didn't bet on baseball
to stop litigation against the league. Then Barciamadi dies, Faye
Vincent becomes commissioner and says, well, this is the agreement
you signed. It you said that you are permanently ineligible

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from Major League Baseball and it was never moved from that,
and commissioners after the fact did not want to change
a commissioner's previous ruling. Manfred even mentioned that in the
statement it's I mean, I don't know if it's like
became a Covino's favorite game of Jenga, but there's just
a lot of peace, is like in and out here
and moving around, and somehow or another, Manfred's figured out

(48:04):
a way to craft this in a way that I
don't know, to me kind of makes sense.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
But I maybe trying to take glory on just a
weird announcement.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
See what, Yeah, I think that that could you know?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
That could be part of it?

Speaker 11 (48:16):
And and a lot of people like you, I think,
just don't are you know see right through it.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
It's like a made up valor. It's like, hey, guys,
look what I'm doing. And I'm like, okay, but he died.
And by the way, speaking of the Menenda's brothers, I
do love the infamous Menendez brother Mark Jackson basketball card.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Have you ever seen that?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
NBA Hoops NBA Hoops nineteen ninety is Mark Jackson throwing
a pass, but the Menendaz brothers are sitting right there
court side.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
I have this card in my collection. I have it.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's a classic. It's a weird one.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
All right, let's get to the phone calls on this
because it is a big, big breaking story today Pete
rose off the ineligible list along with the other Black
Sox guys and other gambling stories.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
And who do we got rich?

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Let'say ahead of Brooklyn and Bruno? What's that Bruno seeing
our boys?

Speaker 16 (49:07):
I love you guys, Hey, I this is near and
dear to my heart. I honestly believe this is such
a really bad thing. Beat you know, to put him in,
or if they're considering putting him in after the fact,
keep them out, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
They shouldn't.

Speaker 16 (49:22):
They shouldn't put him in posthumously. It really isn't right.
The other players, the Black Sox guys, I can understand that,
but just think about the environment we live in today
with legalized gambling. I mean, don't all these players that
are still right now, I mean NFL, NBA, these guys
gamble on their phones every day.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
Now that being.

Speaker 16 (49:40):
Said, it is it's just it's window dressing. It's terrible
now because you don't want to just leave. I'd rather
see him be left out. It's Susan Louci.

Speaker 7 (49:48):
Don't get worse.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah, it's a sympathy thing. It's almost better. It's almost
it's almost better off leaving them out.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
I agree, you know what, it's like a great call,
you know, agreed, great call that is, but.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
You could feel and right through the the tom foolery
that is just disingenuous. It feels odd like and forced,
especially the current. Like I said, we started the segment
me talking about how I'm loving doing the UH DraftKings
pick six, and you know, gambling and sports wagering is
a part of life now. It's almost like that port.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
And guess what Rose was around while the explosion happened.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
And let me tell you it's also it's like that
sad story of like a guy that's sitting in jail
because he had a joint on him and he got
arrested for weed. Meanwhile, like everywhere you go, there's you know, shop,
we'd legal shops everywhere. So Bruno's saying, it's sending a
bad message at this time, right, Yeah, it's it's weird.
It's a mixed message. Uh, Kurt. Actually, let's go to
Mitchell first. He's been on a whole for a while.

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Thanks Mitchell eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox for Someboddy.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 6 (50:47):
Guys?

Speaker 14 (50:47):
Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, blank, major
League Baseball and.

Speaker 13 (50:50):
They can shove the lift up their football pass because
to me, I mean, you know, he hadn't know that
man didn't have much life left.

Speaker 6 (50:58):
They could have took that up a year.

Speaker 14 (51:00):
They're not doing it now for his career or anything else.
They're doing it to make themselves feel better.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
So yeah, yeah, I mean I feel that the announcement
on this random Tuesday, a day before Pete Rose Day.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Does make you feel that way. It does.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Pete Rose legend, shoeless, Joe Jackson legend. Will they be
in the Hall of Fame in two years when the
committee votes? Probably Kurt and Penn. What's up Kurt going on?

Speaker 8 (51:31):
Guys? I love his show.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
Thank you man, Thank you man.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (51:34):
No, so I'm probably you're not gonna like me. I'm
I was so happy when I heard the news today
about all of this. To be honest, I understand Pete
Rose is t Rose and as a person and everything else,
but the fact that he owns the record and there's

(51:56):
I hate what like the sterory guys, but he just
was Charlie Hassel, Hey, dude, we're not.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
We're not saying we're mad at at this. We're mad
at how it was handled. Yeah, yeah, no, we all love.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I just think it should have I think it should
have happened while he was alive. I hope you're not
misunderstanding credit. I like Pete Rose.

Speaker 8 (52:12):
I think you should be wishday it would have happened.
I feel like people should be alive when they go
into Hall of Same Like, I'm like more stoked about
to shoeliss Joe Jackson thing.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah he's he's smiling down somewhere seventy one years later, Chantix.

Speaker 11 (52:28):
So if if Pete Rose is put on this ballot
that's going to be voted on by the Classic Baseball
Era Committee in December of twenty twenty seven, this would
be the class. Just some of the names that he
would go in, because remember there's always headliners, right, It
would be Elbert Poolholz, Robinson Cano, Yadier Molina, Steven Strasburg,

(52:49):
David Price, Lorenzo Caine, some of the names that would
be up that year. Fool's in for sure.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
I'm just laughing Deck because I'm thinking the would be
one writer that's like shoeless Jo Jackson. I mean, he's
not a first ballot guy.

Speaker 11 (53:03):
It's the same thing like it's but like when you know,
you would think it would be what a weekend it
would be for Albert Poolholes, which would then be completely
overshadowed by Pete Rose getting in at that point.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
That's true, but an honor not to be inducted with
those names. That's kind of cool, no diggity, no doubt. Now,
before we do Shack Diesel Trivia New York Duke Online
one says he has an explanation, a quick Ray Liota story.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
I mean the.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
More the most popular guy from Union, New Jersey, Ray Liota.
And then it's what Artie Langham, then Steve Cavino, and
then Robert woll and then Steve Cavino may be somewhere
down there, but he.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Came up on the show today because of Shoeless Joe Jackson.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
Yeah, he played Shoeless Joe and Feel the Dreams. What's up, man, Well,
I've got that.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
I've got a story for you. Really quickly. I met
Ray Leota briefly for an afternoon. My best friend of
time was an actress named Gina Masso Jacobo. She played
Janice Roalthy in Goodfellas.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
And the gumaud And Apartment exactly.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
Exactly, And as part of the you know, basically encouragement
for scores, as they encouraged those guys, Ray and my
friend Gina to you know, like spend some time together.
So we lived up on West av Second Street and
Ray came up with the apartment. It was about this
time at that as I want to say, about nineteen

(54:34):
eighty nine, and he was he was the most amazing,
wonderful person. It was in between obviously Fields of Dreams
and Goodfellas. But we spent the afternoon watching playoff basketball
on the couch and talking to me. I'm a Jersey
he mentioned he was from New Jersey, and I'm a Randolph,

(54:56):
New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
And yeah, yeah, very cool story, chantist.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Thanks for sharing, man.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
And by the way, correction, Janice ROSSI lived in apartment
to R two R. So what girl did you call
a hoe in?

Speaker 7 (55:16):
That was?

Speaker 5 (55:18):
That was bringing up Bill?

Speaker 1 (55:19):
All right, well you want to get a contestant here
for Shock Diesel trivia, let's go.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Whenever we say not to name drop, that means we're
about to name drop'd.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Not only our CNR friends with Tyson and mahomes hey man,
they're also buddies with a big Aristotle.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
What's up, Big Shot Diesel aka shat Fool aka shack Daddy.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Okay, the big Aristotle.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Guess what's down from sing our project?

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Time for some basketball trivia basketball trivia?

Speaker 3 (55:51):
What he said that was the break back boards. Now
I'm breaking records for Episol.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Radio Shack de Sol basketball trivia, f s R Security
Walking our broke Shack Foo into the main studios.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Sorry to make you wait, dude, got me waiting here.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I'm a busy, busy man, Shack Danny g said, you're
no longer the most popular NBA legend. That's a broadcaster.
That's fools. I wouldn't say that. He's following of my footsteps,
my big footsteps. My little Jordan wishes he was me.
Let's meet the contestants.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Michael Jordan trying to be like me.

Speaker 7 (56:21):
Ten time winner Double Talk Davis right over there.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
Space Jam was not as good as Kazam.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
Now he's trying to get in a booth like me.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
It's not wrong. Four time winner Spotty Boy.

Speaker 7 (56:32):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 3 (56:33):
All right?

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Five today, Spotty I'll use you for this. Would you
love to travel to beautiful Tulsa, Oklahoma? Okay, Waterloo, Iowa? Oh, Spokane, Washington?
All right, Roanoak, Virginia or Miami, Florida.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I'm a huge fan of the song Waterloo by Abbas. Yeah,
but you also but you also like Tulsa spell backwards.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Oh that's tough.

Speaker 7 (56:53):
I'm gonna go with Waterloo, all right. That is Corbyn.
Don't think that didn't cross my mind.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
By the way, Corbyn, what's up? What do you do
for living there in Iowa?

Speaker 8 (57:02):
I'm a truck driver, nice man.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Love it keeps.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
American running truck drivers.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Here are the rules for Shack Diesel trivia. The first
contestant with two correct answers is the champ. If there's
a tie, we have a tie breaker question. Your name
is your buzzer, but you do have to wait until
all three possible answers are read. If there's two wrong
answers in a row, we move on to the next question.
Are you ready?

Speaker 7 (57:20):
Yes, let's get it all.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I've been ready, but you have me sitting around waiting.
I know, all right, come on, all right, let's get
this party started. In the next Celtics series, how many
of the first one hundred and three point of times
did the Celtics miss? OKAYO? Is it a eighty two, three,
seventy five, sixty seven?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Well Corbyn spoke up. Corbyn, you got to say your name.
You gotta wait till all three possible answers are read. Okay, Okay,
so say Corbyn Corbyny which one AB or C?

Speaker 6 (57:57):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Corbyn on the border. How did he know that he didn't.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Need multiple chi when you get it like I gotta say,
Kazam say with authority, all.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Right, happily to a space jam.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
We move on to round number two, Round two. What
was I once quoted saying about leadership? Okay, Michael Jordan
has none? Just kidding when you flop?

Speaker 3 (58:21):
This is actually about flopping.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
When you flop, that's just another message that you don't
know how to play me. Stand up and take your
medicine like a man. Oh b, I've never seen Michael
Jordan flop, so I don't want to hear how it's
only a problem with today's players.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Wait, no, no, no, you read your own quote wrong.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
What do you mean I read it wrong? I've seen,
I've even seen. I've even seen Michael Jordan flop. Sorry,
don't have my glasses on, So I don't want to
hear how it's only a problem with today's players. Or see,
flopping is for suckers who should be flipping flapjacks, spot spot.
What was that quoted saying about leadership?

Speaker 15 (58:58):
Was it?

Speaker 12 (58:58):
Flop floppers are for suckers, flapjacks, flipping flapjacks.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
I like that, one.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
Man.

Speaker 7 (59:06):
That's a good quote, though. Corbyon for the steal. He
he yes, yes, because I am got.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
We know it's better than this great jam.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Yeah you said when.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Oh nice, Yeah, when you flop, that's just another message
that you don't know how to play. Shack, stand up
and take your medicine like a man.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Let me guess next. Michael Jordan is gonna want to wrap.
Michael Jordan's gonna want to DJ. He's gonna want to
be a nicy hot He's trying to be like Shacked Diesel.

Speaker 6 (59:38):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
He's gonna try to do a meme of him or
a gift of him.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Jimmy, he's trying to do the shimmy. Don't you own
a bunch of Papa John's. I hear he's buying up dominoes,
trying to.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Do trying to be like Shaq. Heugh, Hey, congratulations, that's
great job. Corbon two in a row for the w greatants.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
We're gonna send out a shiny new sea in our
water bottle to Waterloo.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Iowa, there you go, Iowa.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I enjoy the game tonight, Tulsa iowaba.

Speaker 12 (01:00:06):
Alright, letter guys, I'm busy later. Thanks Sank Shack, go
back and spell Tulsa backwards. And see what that read out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
But did you just figure that out? Did you hear him?
That's why I was laughing. They voted out because I
couldn't think in my head and I was like, oh
you pe brain. I knew that's why the I would drop.
You just played that's Dan Patrick. Cresh it is and oh, yes, yeah, Iowa,
there is. And you have some maybe some DP news.
Well we're gonna be filling in for Dan Patrick on
Friday morning, so Iowa we'll be there Friday morning in

(01:00:35):
for the great dam Pat.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Thanks for the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Remember when I said I was watching I now pronounce
you Chuck and Larry. I have seen that in a
long time. When the last time you saw that movie
probably in the two thousand. It's now available on Netflix
or whatever. So I was watching it. Dan Patrick also
in that movie. He's in many Sandler movies, but it
was cool to see him in that. It's a wild movie.
I think I've forgotten classic from Sandler and Kevin James

(01:01:00):
Worth The Watch.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
I forgot all about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
But yes, listen out on Friday when we get you
ready for the weekend with weekend hob knobbing and what
else we doing on Friday. I feel like we have
a new Friday spectacular.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Yeah, we've been playing Steve Covino or Bill Belichick.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
Oh yeah, I was trying to forget that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
So yeah, that's in for Dan Patrick on Friday and
then tomorrow Fox Sports Radio Nation Regular Show, regular time.
But we get you ready for your hump day Midweek major.
We do it every Wednesday. The biggest stories in sports
and pop culture are they mid week or major? Well,
hey tonight gearing up for anything you watch in the

(01:01:39):
other Yanks on tonight or what? Yeah, Yanks Seattle got
to play for Oswaldo Cabrera, poor kid, tough injury. Let's
not forget they put them on the ten day DL. Honestly,
that's like a season ender. It looked like the ankle fracture,
but it spun around. You guys, think the Caves are
gonna I was get just looking as Donovan Mitchell out,

(01:02:01):
is that that's the determining factor? He I mean either
way the Pacers, you have to assume PACER's got this right, Yeah,
three to one, and then you get the Pacers Nicks.
That would be that's the dope series right there. Yeah,
but it just takes you back to nostalgia times. Let's
not forget we have a big game five tonight, tied
up two games apiece, Nuggies at Thunder and the world

(01:02:22):
seems to think the Thunder has us on the control
ten and a half point favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Update seventeen minutes ago on All Star Guards, Spider Mitchell
he's going to be available to face the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Well, that would insinuate why they are eight and a
half point favorite. So the Cabs are big favorite tonight,
Saman to Thunder. So some NBA action tonight. It's some
baseball like every night. And hey, hopefully you enjoy anything
else you ever need, you can always reach out Covino
and Rich And just a reminder before we get out
of here, we're putting the final touches on our June

(01:02:54):
twentieth to twenty second party in Las Vegas.

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All you got to do make sure you're there and
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from pool parties, live broadcast, a lot of fun stuff.
So meet some people June twentieth to the twenty second
book it will see you until tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Are even there to your baby? See you in the
promise land Man, later guys