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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino and Rich podcast.
Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five
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iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. We ordered pizza today for

(00:22):
the cast and crew. You've done sports radio?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
We Frenchman me you, Danny, we did it.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
We we.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Who do we give credit to Danny? G our boy
trip trip again?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah? He uh.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
He liked to debate so much yesterday about rockies or bananas.
He he texted me, he said, Hey, the order is
going to be there for you, same instructions you gave
me on the order last time. As far as which
pizzas to get, I said, but you gotta tell Rich
this message that this pizza today came from a Rocky,
not a banana.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Wow, I'll tell you what I got it. They gotta
say this though, I'm sorry if I stole your thunder,
will you try to pose it as your pizza? Yeah?
What's the big deal? Trip is the man? Hey, trip
ahead of us? Got pizza for everybody here? Fox Sports radio.
We'll be partying with Trip in Vegas. Obviously free drinks
on Trip, Natty stacks buying pizzas for everybody. Really appreciate it,

(01:20):
thank you very much. And nothing better than when someone
brings in a box of donuts or cookies or pizza
to the office. Everybody comes out, Hey, what's going on?
What's going pizza? All right? Man? Yo, we got paper plates.
Everyone gets all fired up about it. It's nice team
building in chemistry and camaraderie. And then I heard Manzi say,

(01:43):
and I quote, this is how you order pizza. That's right.
This is how you do it. That's right. We don't
need all this meat lover nonsense, some cheese, some pepperoni.
That's it. Why are you complicating it? I mean, so
it dawned on me that, yeah, she's making a point,
a good point. I don't ever about the meat. I
don't disagree with Mancy one bit. If you want meat lovers,

(02:04):
get a different meal pie. I'm in New Yorker at heart.
I live in La now, but I'm a New Yorker.
To me, I don't think any toppings are necessary. I agree.
So you get a Grandma slice, a Sicilian slice, a
slice of a piece of eat. Then you're not doing
it right to be there just pepperoni and pepperoni and cheese.

(02:24):
And if you're not satisfied, then no pizza for you.
Beat it scramble. I'm a ding dong, so I do
agree with you, Mancy, but I could imagine there's a
lot of rooting too, and meat lovers, you want their meat.
Where's my sausage? Where's my meat? Right, there's a lot
of people that want there. I think it's trash, to
be honest, that's the first one. That's the one that's

(02:45):
least eating here Los Angeles, where everybody's really foofy about
their eating just in the studium. If you go if
you go to a state that has like good pizza,
New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, see like East Coast Detroit.
You go somewhere with a pizza's legit. I grew Manci.

(03:06):
It's plain or as we say in New York, regular
ya or pep caemberoni. You don't need all this nons veggies, lovers,
meat lovers, stop it. That means you, you know what
I mean, A barbecue chicken, pizza, pizza, pineapple pizza, barbecue.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Chicken pizzas not pizza.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, I guess you flab a bacon on yours. Rich Oh,
none of this crap to please everybody. I do agree,
but I think you're also cutting out some other great options.
I'm never one of those haters because you want pineapple.
Why if that's how you like it, why are you
so mad? I'm not hating on it. I'm saying, if
you want to appeal to the masses, if you're ordering
pizza for a kid's birthday party, for the office, only

(03:46):
for a fight night, all you need regular or Pepperoni.
In fact, you know what I compare to. It's like
a good steak. What do they say, a good steak
only needs a little butter, salt, and pepper. You don't
need dippings and sauces and all that. That means you're
an idiot. That means you have no tathin. You don't
need fick fins. Okay, So that's just the point. I

(04:07):
don't even think it's a debate. There's one way to
order pizza to keep everybody happy, and if someone's not happy,
they could beat it. Trust you can pick a hike.
I go to Wayne and Pepperoni. That's it. I reluctantly,
let me throw that word in there, reluctantly go to
way too many kids birthday parties, having an eight year
old and a five year old. When you look at
the pizza at the end, what's left over? Monzi's right,

(04:30):
the meat lovers and the veggie lover pizzas are like
the yellow starburst, like the banana laffy taffy. It's like
the one that no one wants. You're honestly, when the parents,
it's the black licorice chuckle. It's the black chuckle. It's
the only one left when the parents, like, does anyone
want to bring pizza home? Guess what's always left? Those two? Bingo?

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Why does pepperoni take precedence over sausage, Like I think
sausage is a better meat option than pepperoni.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh see, so there is a debate.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I don't think that's the I feel like most people
but would say it's pepperoni, Like, I get you like
the sausage means, but again that would be like.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Something just for you. Yeah, Sam, I likes the sausage
out here, that's the rumor around here.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
I'm just saying I think sausage bed in Pepperoni. I
like Pepperoni. You know what I thought for sausage.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I bet if we went to uh, you know Domino,
Johnny Domino of Domino's or whoever, Marco from Marco's Pizza. Oh,
Johnny Domino. Yeah, you know who's your favorite, Spotty, who's
your guy? Papa John? Yeah, we went to Papa John himself.
I'm sure Pepperoni's the number two options or number one
when it comes to toppings. So there's only one way

(05:38):
to order pizza. It's not even enough for debate. It's
playing in Pepperoni. Sure, you can get whatever you want,
that's fine, But when you're ordering for the masses, especially
for a big sporting event, a pay per view, well,
because no one's gonna say no to those options you met, like,
no one's gonna be like, oh, ren, you only got
playing in Pepperoni. But people might say, like the Broccolian

(06:02):
sausage one. Well, for the records to give it context.
Anytime people order pizza, meat on it, Monzi doesn't eat
it because she doesn't eat meat. So she's always like
the shower lacks the moon, but she's looking for the
plain ciss So you gotta have plane and pepperoni the end,
the end. What's your next? Just question for the fun
of it. I you know, you could chat GPT it,

(06:23):
you could google it. By far, the most popular pizza
topping in the United States is Pepperoni. Consistently ranks far
ahead of any other topping. Among other pizza toppings, Chad
Gpt says he loves his veggie pizza. Chad, Gee, I
love that stupid second dumb point before you get to

(06:47):
the knicks and before you get to the whole Thibadeau story.
As I continue to you know, become the number one
coach here Fox Sports Radio. My god, you're really leaning
into that. And you wonder why gott Lee mean mugs
you in the hallway. I think it does that no

(07:07):
matter what, so about is a lead into it.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
I hate the game and it's crazy because Rich has
a two thirty five winning percentage.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Stop it, you just said that. So I uh, I've noticed,
just from my daughter and son playing over the last
couple of years, something has gone away. And I wonder
when we decided to make the transition. Yeah transition not
Bruce Jenner style transition. Okay, something has gone away where Yeah,

(07:38):
in our practices or at the ballpark, or you're right,
they don't serve fat frogs and bubbalo bills an hour.
There is a transition, okay that the world of baseball
and softball decided one day and everyone's like, yeah, you're right,
because I was thinking back to my little league days.
I mean, we didn't have all the glory. Steve Cavino
had twenty seven little league home runs. It's quite acomplishment.

(08:01):
I mean it's still a record, I think Union New Jersey.
But do we all agree there was a year where
everyone's like, why are we wearing stirrups. Let's just get
baseball socks. So what are your kids wearing? The socks
with the stripes on them? They were solid color tea
just for the fun of it. You realize once you
have to order a specialty socking, You're like, where am
I going to follow in this? They are all there

(08:23):
on Amazon, Like we need to find black with I
believe it was like golden, like some special golden color stripe,
and they're there. When my son was on the Colorado
Rockies kids team, they have Rockies Purple, they have every sock,
but when was the shock with the stripe built in
on it. Yeah, but when did we'd say, remember when

(08:44):
you were a kid, did you you didn't have those
corny strips to say, it was around ninety four, ninety five,
that's my guess when the strip they came back without star. Yeah,
Paul Neo was the batting champ, had a year to
think about it, and he came back with the socks
with the stripe on the side. I'm only saying that
from experience, because I know for fact I was rocking
the stirrups, and then around ninety four then there was

(09:08):
the sock with the stripe, the illusion, and then they
just said no solid color sock or solid color with
horizontal stripes. However, every once in a while there's a
throwback guy who rocks the stirrup. I don't think they
make them. I didn't even know what you were talking about. Really,
I had to look it up. No way, I was like,
what is a stirrup? That was like part of your
little kid's baseball uniform.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
I don't remember when I started playing softball.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I don't remember what.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
So you always wear the like what tube socks?

Speaker 6 (09:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, the stripes already. Yeah, softball players were tubes socks
sometimes with the actual stripes. That's exactly what I would write.
So or if you or if your team was blue,
you just have that color blue sock or with stripes.
But when did the stirrup go? I guess when we
really went next level with the elastic technology, right, so

(09:58):
we didn't have the for a stirrup. Did you wear
stirrups playing Little League?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
No?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
For real?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
No two and one?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I'm looking here it says the two in one was
invented in the seventies. Oh wow, but not everybody was
using that.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
No popularized for me in the mid to late nineties,
Ota because in high school I was still wearing stirrups
in the nineties. I think I was wearing like we
had black stirrups. Yeah, and wow, I can't believe Sam,
you know what we mean by stirrups.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Right, I had to look it up.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I was just had a tall baseball sock, a tube sock,
and yeah, you tuck your pants in the sock.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Now. I don't know the history, but I imagine socks in
the pants black stocking days right back in the old
timey times when Scoops Callahan was reporting players couldn't keep
their socks up, so they would have stirrups to keep
them up. I would imagine that's where and whyatt started.
I'm making that up, that's my guess.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
It says.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
By the mid century, more players wore their socks higher
to reveal the white sock underneath. The advancement of colored
dyes and heightened sense of fashion in society to more
colorful stirrups.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
So you you'd have that stirrup on the bottom of
your foot inside. I'll I picture Darryl Strawberry, by the way,
today on this day, dude, any player from the eighties
on this day. Darryl Strawberry was drafted by the Mets
forty five years ago, and coincidentally, I tied all together,
guys on this day. In eighteen fifty one, the first
baseball uniform debuted, the first ever baseball uniform before they

(11:26):
were a basketball team, the New York Knickerbockers. They wore
straw hats, white shirts, and blue trousers. So today was
the first ever baseball uniform, but for a century, players
wore stirrups. If you picture Mike Schmidt in the eighties,
he was wearing that Philadelphia Philly red stirrup anybody in

(11:47):
the sixties. Automatically he was rocking a navy blue Yankos sterrup.
Here's a question then, and this isn't tonock anybody. It's
generational obviously, if you guys didn't know what stirrups or
what do you think the players? Let's just say, what
do you think George Brett was rocking of the eighties?
Anyone prior to I don't know ninety five, what do
you think they were wearing just regular socks or colored

(12:07):
socks because you always saw the sock with that stirrup
on it. Great example, if you just google image George
Brett nineteen eighty five, the first thing that comes up
is his tops baseball card. Did what do people think
that is? What did you think that was? That's funny
and that's not a knock at all. I'm just wondering.
I'm really wondering because I definitely wore stirrups all through

(12:30):
high school and you know, Little League. Obviously by the
college days it was that sock that won sock. But
interesting that you brought it up rich because I guess
kids have completely abandoned. On the day we celebrate the
first ever uniform. Any kids say today have completely abandoned
the stirrup. It's no longer a thing. Look eighties, when

(12:51):
you're a little boy, Google image Steve Garvey eighties. What
did you think those blue things on his legs were?
I didn't. I didn't see those rich until high school.
Like the city I was in in southern California, our
field was pretty poor.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
We were lucky to have some nice colored socks.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Lucky to have socks.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, we had to go to uh what was it
played again? Sports to get most of our equipment. It's great, man.
So yeah, completely gone.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
No kids right the way for throwback reasons, No, because
kids all, if they're gonna rock their pants more like knickers,
they pull it up. They have it up to the
knee and you'd see like the stripe of the solid sock.
I know we're doing a little baseball history here on
Fox Sports Radio, but I'm shocked at the younger audience
and the younger people here at Fox Sports don't know
about the stirrup. Like, and there were styles to wear it.

(13:41):
Two guys, right, Like some people wore where you saw
a lot of the color and other people you only
saw the side. The side of and that was sort
of up to you, you know, like you know sometimes Monci.
Now a guy will wear his baseball pants where you
don't see sock at all, and then other guys will
almost pull it up to their knee. Sure, look up
any eighties player and you're it's good, like I just
broke the glasses. Yeah, like you can name it. Player

(14:03):
in the eighties they think of like Ozzie Smith, red stirrups.
That's so funny, like you just never And then as
I because I'm ordering all these uniforms for the kid's
pony ball, and I'm like, man, we've come a long way.
These sweet like striped, golden and black socks. I'm like,
I had stirrups, and I'm like, I wonder when stirrups
went away? And here we are. Rich is for reference,

(14:24):
the coach of the West Hills Brown Stars, I mean
all Star team. So he knows a thing or two.
And as Kevin Hart says, you gotta learn something today.
You learned how to order pizza, plane and pepperoni. Only.
Stop making it scientific, Stop trying to please everybody that's it,
keep it simple, stupid and the other the past have

(14:45):
all the stirrups go. And even more mind blasting is
the fact and thought that people thirty or thirty or
so thirty ish and younger have no idea what that
even is. It's even in little league. They were probably told, oh,
you're in the pirates, get playing yellow socks around black.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Socks or the two in one socks.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
It reminds me of the fake football jerseys that my
mom would get us. She at the time she was single.
Mom couldn't afford the real NFL jersey, so she got
the shirt that looked like.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
The transition Danny was the stiruping sock to the sock
that looked like it had a stirrup on it. Yes,
all right, So we had a lot of people calling up,
not even sure why we're not giving away prizes yet
it's in one of the hot topics hot topics obviously
rich one exactly. I hit up my high school pals

(15:33):
and I said, Yo, guys, dumb thought that we're talking
about on Fox Sports Radio what happened to the stirrup?
And my buddy said, holy s crazy, I haven't thought
of that. You unlocked the memory. I think, he goes,
I think there was a specific year in high school
late nineties where one season we went from black socks,
I'm sorry, black stirrups to the coach said, why don't

(15:54):
we just wear black socks? So there was a time,
I think late nineties, and if you try to backtrack it,
you can look at your favorite stars, Big Jim Tomey
as a twin, as an Indian, the big Barn Door.
Would they call him Jim Tomey? Who do you think
he was wearing on his cavs that big galute had
stirrups on. Now there's a lot of young people thinking

(16:15):
what the hell are stirrups, which I'm shocked by. So
I appreciate your honesty because that makes the conversation so
much more fun. It's like when you tell a young
person about Monica Lewinsky in the blue dress. People are like, what, oh,
I got something to tell you. Wait, you don't know
about the cigar story with Bill Clinton? What?

Speaker 7 (16:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
What? Let me tell you? They don't teach you that.
I'm very excited to tell you what a stirrup is,
young people, kiddos. Stirrup socks are basically normal socks with
a huge hole cut in it for the entire foot
so you had the bottom of the stirrup in your cleat,
which was all bunched up depending on how you wore
the stirrup. In baseball, This is from AI Baseball. Stirrups

(16:53):
are socks worn over traditional sanitary socks, serving both a
practical and stylistic purpose. Originally designed to protect payers from
potential infection caused by dies in colored socks injuries that
would scrape the shins, and stir up provide an extra
layer of protection and also an extra support to the sock.
And it also displayed the color of the team you

(17:15):
were playing for it, so it's part of the uniform
that you rarely see nowadays. And Rich brought it to
our attention because none of these little leaguers that he's
coaching are wearing them at all, Like they don't exist
no more. It's like team specialized socks. Now.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Nobody else on our network has this content.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
No no fact.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
I just sent you guys all a video because I
think is this a stirrup? It's an Oklahoma softball player.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Don't worry, Montie, because we're buying you some for Christmas. Okay,
thank you, but can you just look at that I
sent this to you guys. So look at when you
get a chance. I didn't get it. I think I
blocked you perfect. Thank you so much. I'm waiting for
the text to come through on Fox on Twitter tricks Twitter,
because that's where I got the video. Okay, eighty year
older white guy. Let's see, Monci sents us up. I

(18:02):
don't know. I'm not a big Twitter guy. I'm always
on x at Covino and rich at Steve.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, yes, she.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Does, right, you see it little bit we're at. So
I'm shocked that people it's generational. Some people don't know.
Other people are like, what of course everybody were stirrups
back in the day in baseball, all right, Marley in Rochester,
let's start there.

Speaker 8 (18:23):
What you got, Bud, Yeah, man, I'm glad you bry
stirred up that memory. I remember them from the from
the late eighties into the nineties. I played little league
baseball in high school baseball, and we had different colors,
you know, hey, the mighty mighty Southwest Coast, we wore
blue stirrups and with the Wilson Wildcast high school baseball
man we wore.

Speaker 9 (18:44):
Black and that mess with the black and.

Speaker 8 (18:46):
Red man with the coats. It was blue and the yellow.

Speaker 9 (18:49):
Man, Yo, that's not as dope. I want to bring
you back. I three you. You can bring them up,
order them on Amazon itself. Man, I would rock those
with the old baseball shorts himself. That would look hot.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Thank you, bu Monzi. Appreciate great phone call. But Monci,
you did prove that they still exist because this girl
on Oklahoma is wearing them. Yeah, exactly what it is. Yeah,
but if you look around major League Baseball now I did,
most players are showing no sock right like he has
like designers. Once in a while, like Peter a. Lonzo
will rock the higher baseball pant and he'll wear like

(19:25):
special met socks with like the city skyline.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
And Dodgers do that too. They got like the palm
tree sock with the sand the.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
White and blue picture. Tani, his pants are going down
to the cleat. You're not seeing o'kin get that though.
It looks better with the sock, and I think it
looks cool.

Speaker 9 (19:40):
Now.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I wonder if he's wearing gold toes or bombus. What's
going on?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
What's he doing?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I want to know? So is he wearing the Nike
dry fits. Let's go back to the phones eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox, and then we'll talk some
NBA Andy, Andy Andy in Mississippi. What's up Andy, Hey buddy.

Speaker 9 (19:57):
Hey guys. The sanitary also made the look a lot cleaner.
So if you wore like tube socks that were white
with the wrinkles and the elastic in them, and you
wore stirrups over those, it looked kind of bush league.
So the sanitary hose made it a real smooth transition.
But the funny story I.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Have, I can sanitary home. Yeah, rich rich knows about
unsanitary shoes.

Speaker 9 (20:21):
Yeah that's what I've heard. The uh but my mom
my brother wanted his stirrups like a half inch thin. Yeah,
a lot of the styrups were wide, So she would
take an old pair of underwear of his and get
elastic from the underwear, cut the stirrup at the bottom,

(20:42):
and sew the elastic of the underwear in between, so
he could pull them up even higher and make that
stirrup almost like pencil thins.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Some people wanted to do that. He was pinstriping his
sock basically that it was a whole look. Yeah, there
was a definitely look to it, and now Rich said
to see the soccer, your pants are all the way down.
When you was the first person you think of pants
all the way down? Many Ramirez, Yes, one, yeah, Manny
or cc Sabathia for the Dodgers, Bonci.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I think it was Corey seeger. I picture him with
the low pants. And by the way, there is relevance.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
It's not only that Riches ordering uniforms for his little
nose picking team. Today is the anniversary of the uniform.
First baseball uniform ever worn on this day in eighteen
fifty one, and it was a straw hat, a white shirt,
and blue trousers by the New York Knickerbockers of baseball,
probably all made of wool. Very bad, not breathable, no

(21:42):
sweaty and itchy. All right, let's say hi to Trimp
in Vegas. Thank you for the pizza yet chat playing Pepperoni.
That's how it's done.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
What's going on, gentlemen, I got a few things that
I'll cover all this real quick. So I'm at the
club being sans club.

Speaker 9 (22:00):
I got a new listener for John.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
I'm going to hear this what's up John on my
heart radio, so he'll hear the shout out wants to
take the lays off. So the reason I send the
chief pizza because I know that Monty is a vegetarian
and she may be single one day, know from to Vegas.
And then the stirrups. I have a friend of mine

(22:23):
at work, her son. I was like, no, they weren't
letting wear socks and shoes. I'm like, no, go get
them cleats and stirrups.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
And she's like, oh my gosh. She was so happy.
That's part of baseball.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
You know what's interesting it was I just was trying
to figure out timeline wise. We're sort of learning this
together now, right. If I look back to our eighty superstars,
like I said, Kirk Gibson, Paul Main, Ozzie Smith, George
bread Down, they all wore starrups, all of them. But
if you look up, if you google image, Frank Thomas, King,
Griffy Junior, that generation all baseball pants down to the cleat.

(22:57):
And I think when players started to show sock again,
the start was gone. There was a generation of that
baggy pant longer pant baseball uniform and the c C
Sybbathew would come out and as pjson it looked like,
and you know what, the startup was forever done unless
you really, like you said, specially order it the end.
Just all moving on. Crazy observation though, and wild to

(23:20):
think that there's a generation where they have no idea
what that even is because I thought that was part
of the uniform. You know, it looks funny too when
you look at old football videos of all the pads
people used to wear that they don't now. Yeah, I
find to be careless in the NFL. You're not rocking
your pads like you see some of it. Like if
you watch an old movie from the eighties and it's
a football movie, like, what's with all the pants? Dude? Somebody?

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Guy?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Like NFL players don't even wear like thigh pads. Position
players looked like like picture Al Bundy for Polkai, Like,
I'll pan it up again. It's part of the era.
It's part of the look too. It was meant for protection,
like what was it called like that? You know the
braces that cowboy collor yeah, the cowboy collar they would wear.

(24:03):
That went away. It just went away. So thanks again
for your feedback and your phone calls on the anniversary
of the uniform. Think two more phone calls and wrap
it up. In the NBA, we give the Michigan Wolverines
the Fab five. We give them credit for changing the
style of the long shorts and the NBA changed. Does
King Griffy Junior not get enough credit because every Griffy
he gets the backwards hack credit, the backwards hat. But

(24:25):
also look at every picture of Griffy when you google
kN Griffey Jr. Everything's a looser fit nineteen nineties baseball
pant and he was Dan, he was the guy. So yeah,
he probably doesn't get enough credit, but he gets the
hack credit and they all sort of coincides. I think,
all right, two more phone calls, wrap it up. We
got Bruno and Brooklyn. What's up Bruno?

Speaker 9 (24:47):
Boy cr we love you man Hey down here in Brooklyn. Hey, hey,
you guys should have Nerve today with disturbs. I love
it from when I was a little league to Connie
Mack enough you guys, you know Connie mackwith.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, funny, it's so funny. I didn't think Anyon would
get the reference to my buddy Rob hit me up
and he goes. I remember wearing baseball socks for the
first time in Connie Mack, which we were.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
Blue Connie Mack and then right into high school. But
here's the deal. I remember as a kid so pumped
to put the stirrups on because to your point, in
the eighties, when these guys are rock and these stirrups,
you thought you were a big lead when you got
your styrup.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, exactly, so.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
You felt and you always had you rocked them up
in the knee. At least we did. We rocked them
to the knee. But it was wild because our high school
colors were blue and gold, and I'll never forget they
went with these navy socks and the bright gold. I
thought it was like w w E gold stirrups. You know,
you look really crazy, but it was yeah, well that.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Was the other thing. That's a great point. Another memory
unlocked the accent color. R Yeah, the accent color went
this way. So I played for your union high school,
to say right, and it was mooning gold. So I
had to have gold socks made of actual gold dandy
g that's how pimp I was, and maroon syrup to
have that look. So I'd have the roon stirrups with
the gold sock. So thank you, Bernondo No, let's go

(26:07):
to Mitch to wrap it up. Mitch and Jersey, you're
on the Cavino and Rich Show, Fox Sports Radio. What's up?

Speaker 9 (26:12):
Mitch's the game? I'll give you pretty quick things. Yeah,
first of the Syrups bit by guns, right, they went
a long pants it almost like gull bottoms. Yeah, that's pizza.
Don't put it on Pizza's just regular cheese. New York
pizza is the best, that's right.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
And with the Knicks, Dibbs and Tis, it's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (26:30):
How about times cat Okay, here a scent and not
a wing player play.

Speaker 9 (26:37):
Like a centate. He's seven feet so they had to
get another bigger guard because they booked all over Burnting Man.
He's too short.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Great score of them, thank you minute. You know what,
that's a perfect transition because after Monsi's update, we're going
to dive into some NBA. But of course we need
to get pizza and Stirrups out of the way first.
But you know, we wanted to give you a Timbadeau
break because everyone's talking about it. Well, we didn't know
that conversation would be such a hit. With that, I'm
going to be a passing sort of comment. Well, yeah,

(27:04):
every line is still ringing, and I'm not answering them
right now, so we will talk Tom Thibodeau. And there's
two ways to look at it. I get it, I
get it right. But I mean they had a pretty
sweet run. Someone broke the mold when it comes to
different colored Yankee hats, and they credit Spike Lee nineteen

(27:26):
ninety six for reaching out to George Steinbrenner to make
sure that he could wear a red Yankee hat to
match his outfit, and that was the turning point when
the Yankees beat the Braves in ninety se so it
wasn't Limp Biscuit. And I as a rock fan and
Yankee fan, I'm like, hey, that that might be true
and all that Spike Lee wore the red Yankee hat,
But when I think a red Yankee hat, I think

(27:48):
of Fred Durst. Lamb Biscuit did it all for the
Nookie and all the Nookie girls with their puffy jackets
and the red Yankee hat. They credit Spike Lee, not
one mention of Fred Thurst, And I'm like, man.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Brought it to the masses. If it wasn't for him,
those hats wouldn't be inside lid.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
You really think that, because I think that too. But
I'm like, maybe i'm biased here. I'm a Yankees fan,
but I'm also a Olympiscuit fan. Nothing against Spike Lee.
He's great and he's great for New York sports. He's
a huge fan. He gets the credit for that. Oh
if he was the first to go to Steinberner and
say is it okay? He's saying that he went to
New Era first, and New Era is like, no, we

(28:30):
can't do that because it's against you know, the rules,
Like Yankees got blue hats. So he went to the source.
He went to Steinberner. Steinberner proved it, and after that
the floodgates open for different options for everybody. And that's
where the turning point was.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
But I credit Fred Durst all the way Nioki came
out in ninety nine just for reference. Interesting, le enough,
I'm wondering who you think of is the Is the
baseball hat the one piece of sporting equipment that also
transcends into everyday life? Yeah? They also say that the
NY Yankees hat is the most famous sport hat in
the world. Think about it in other sports, basketball, sneakers,

(29:06):
and baseball hats are those the league leaders as far
as like regular people wear them. But it's technically sporting equipment. Yeah,
it's the number one sporting equipment that has hit mainstream
or Zappatos state tennise, tennis shoes.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
A baseball hat.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
There's no other. Yes, the baseball hat for sure.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
So anyway, I'm just wondering Fox Sports Radio Nation. When
I say red Yankee hat, who do you think of?
I think of Fred Durst two, So I'm with you
all right now. Moving on, Tom Thibodeau fired after five seasons,
four out of the five seasons in the playoffs, furthest
they've gone since nineteen ninety nine. Fresh off of a
nice run. They were in a lot of the games.

(29:46):
They blew the first game. I mean it took a
lucky bounce to beat them in the first game, a
miraculous It was the luckiest bounce in the world. You
gotta keep that in mind when we're talking about this.
Dude lost his job. I imagine Brunson did like the guy.
Your star player likes the guy. He defended him in
a press conference. We'll get to that. Your thoughts on
Tom Thibodeau being fired. We will tell you what.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
We think.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
As a Mets fan. I don't look at last year
as a failure because the Dodgers were a better team
than they won. I don't either. It was a great
run for the Mets, lots of fun, of fun season.
But again, that's the name of the game. If you're
a Washington lethis said, the name of the game is winning.
Here we're in we're in the sport of winning. But
if you're a Washington Commanders fan and you saw it

(30:34):
Jade and Daniels is capable of and you made it
to the NFC Championship game, yeah you lost. He got
smoked in the big championship game. Do you look at
last year as a failure. Well, you're basically posing the
question to the Fox Sports RADI donation of do you
believe in moral victories or not? And how do you
view a successful season?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Is it in the Washington football team rich they tanked
to get Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Well, Danny g I'll quote you. I'll quote you in
our pre show meeting when you were saying different organizations
have different expectations and that's why it's tougher to play there.
You know, in fact, recently, Shaquille O'Neil was talking about
how playing in big cities don't matter anymore. With social media,
you don't need that sort of pressure that you'll get
from an LA Lakers. For example, when it comes to Giannis, right,

(31:20):
you don't need that. He doesn't need the Lakers, he has.
Social media's different ways. Big cities don't matter. It's not
the nineties anymore, so big cities. Certain organizations have different expectations,
different pressures. Example, the Knicks, the Yankees, the Lakers, you're

(31:41):
expected to win, and if you don't win is considered
a failure. Other teams, when you play and make it far,
that's the success. But you could look at what the
Knicks did as a major step in the right direction,
because speaking of it, I just mentioned Jane and Daniels,
Cliff Kingsbury is quoted today as saying he expects a
big jump next year from the quarterback. So now you're

(32:02):
talking about there's an expectation for the commanders. But what
the next fact that they made you and I actually agree, right,
I think that Tom Thibodau should not have been fired
because that players getting acclimated. Coaches also to get acclimated
to the players. No, I'll tell you why do this
his first year with Karl Anthony Towns. I disagree. Brunston

(32:23):
had his back. If you missed Brunton talking about Thibodeaux
just after the it was right after the loss he
was asked a question about Thibodau's future with the next
take a listen.

Speaker 10 (32:33):
You talked about the confidence. Obviously, I feel like nobody
takes more criticism than Tom and this team obviously has
turned around during his tenure. Do you kind of feel
that going forward he's the same guy? Lift you, guys
the rest of the way at next level?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
This is Is that a real question right now? You
just asked me if I believe that, if he's the
right guy.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Yes, thanks, guys, Come.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
On, okay, don't you want to keep your good star
player happy.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
You're good.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
A lot of these big stars do not have the
patience with these reporters lately. But now that turns out
to be a hell of a question. That's a hell
of a question. That's why I got a Let a
reporter do his job. Let reporters report.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Another thing, guys, is the note The Internet cannot figure
out who asked the question? Me and Jason Stewart were
looking in all of these articles. We found just say
a reporter scoops callah. We can't figure out who actually
asked it. It was a money question.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I don't know it really was a money question, because
look at it now, it turns out to be a
major story here on Fox Sports Radio and for the
New York Knicks. If the don't want to take credit,
help people with Steve Cavino, I'll take the credit. Steve
Cavino posed the question. Now, Bronson's the star and future
of the New York Knicks. They have their guy as

(33:47):
Kelvin Washington. I believe he said he's not perfect, but
he's the guy and he proved that. Don't you want
to keep him happy? And don't you want to give
Thibodeau a little time to adjust to the new stars
that are also on the team, like the Karl Anthony
Townses of the world, Like if we got to give
these players, if we make excuses for players acclimating in
their first year with the team, and in every fifty

(34:09):
bad move and bad shot and bad foul they make,
we're not gonna give coaches any grace at all when
they had success with his team. I think it's it's
a shame that he got fired. I think it's an
easy scapegoat and an easy finger to point at because
he's the coach. So that's my feelings on it. Again,
the furthest they've gone since nineteen ninety nine. You had

(34:31):
the Trell, Spreewell and John Starks, you had all these
old knicks there cheering on the team because there hasn't
been this much excitement, and you fire the coach. How
does that not feel weird to you? Sometimes someone can
only bring you so far, and then you got to
go in and say, oh, so you think you understand this?

(34:53):
I do, Okay, I think that maybe, yeah, maybe Jalen
Brunson is a good team guy and he's like, that's
our coach. I got you know, like, how many times
has someone said to you, hey, what do you think
of this guy or this woman? And because you're a
good guy, like, oh, they're great, And then when they
get let go, you're like, man, they weren't that great
because you're just being a good team player. Anytime a

(35:14):
coach gets fired or coaches on the hot seat, every
player is like, yo, we got coaches back. What is
he supposed to say, Yeah, he's all right, we could
probably do better with someone else. Tom Thibodeau, let me
just read this has a reputation for being ultered, demanding,
and intense, which has led many players that have played
for him to express dislike. In recent NBA polls, Oh

(35:37):
my god. In recent NBA polls, he has been voted
as the coach players would least want to play for.
One of the main reasons demanding is new York. New
York is demanding. The want for this perception is the
high pressure style and his ten New York is high pressure.
Don't you want to coach that mention the style of

(35:58):
the city.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
His players practice really hard, like they get worn out
by it. No, it's I mean, it's a good thing
if you if you look at it.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I understand how he worked the bench, was was criticized
during his playoff rotation. His rotation was questioned, and I
get that, and adjustments were made, but by the way,
no one else was criticized just to say his hairlined?
Is that what you say?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
But are you? Aren't you vain? I mean his hairline
is suspect.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
I wouldn't even call it a line. It's more like
a hair. It's a squint to see his quote. I
don't even know what this means. His gruff demeanor. This
guy's got a gruff demeanor. But New York has a
gruff demeanor because.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
They expect a lot. And man, I don't know. Maybe
these knicks are softer than we thought.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
This has got to be more to it behind the
scenes with the owner especially, We've we've been told for
how many years now that Dolan is pretty incompetent as
an owner. He had to have rubbed somebody the wrong way.
Because I get your point Rich about how some times
you need a new voice, you need another guy to
bring you over the hump. But it's not like they
went to the Eastern Conference two years in a row
here and just can't get to the finals.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
They just turned it around.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, I don't. To me, it makes no sense. I'm
with you.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
I feel like that story makes them look soft.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
He's too tough on you. Get out of here, right,
You're saying all this stuff. You're like, get out of here, Rob,
and he turns out being right.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
No, I don't think I mean, is he's right that
they did it, But I don't think it was the
right choice for the Knicks. You get a brand new
Carl Anthony Towns and you get to the finals, to
get to the conference finals.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Every year you've gone further. I don't know what else
you're supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
And like Ben Stiller, big fan of the Knicks, tweeted,
like he put us back on the map.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
The Knicks were nobody's.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Now you're talking about the Knicks like you used to
talk about the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
The coolest thing Nicks had since Coney or yeah, last
fun time in.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
The garden when he came to the There was a
season or two with Carmelo.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
No, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, Carmelo two. But wait to forget the Syracuse guy. No,
I mean we were there for that, but it was Carmelo.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
It wasn't Nicks.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
True. So what are your thoughts? Tom Thibodeau fired on
his day off. That does suck. You can get fired
on your day off. After again, five seasons, five winning
seasons with the Knicks. You know again, you're the first guy,
Steve Cavino, Yeah, you're the first guy, well to do

(38:33):
a lot of things. You the first got to break
about your little league prowess. Yeah, the first guy to
never turn off a baseball game. You're the first guy
to talk about a boring fight, the first guy for
a lot of things, But you're the first guy to
talk about how styles make fights. Styles make fights. Have
you ever thought that perhaps that applies to everything in sports? Yea,
in life? Yeah? Have you ever thought about maybe the
style of coaching doesn't mix with this this? Yes, what

(38:59):
I'm like, it's got to be. It has to be.
That's what I'm thinking too. But that's also shocking to
me because you want that gritty toughness out of your
New York team, like you're gritty, tough New York City
subway grimy team is going to cry about a tough
coach and they can't get past the Indiana Pacers old school.
You're a Yankees fan, I'll give you a Yankee example.
It shows to me that these guys are way softer

(39:21):
than I thought. Let me be cut that's how I feel.
Let me be condescending for a second, which I'm good at. Yeah,
I'll go Yankee. Since that's your strength. You got Yankee superpowers.
Give me a hard ass Yankee coach. Historically, manager Loopell
like Loop Andel, kicking dirt players, like, you know, really

(39:43):
getting into always mad and then on the flip of it,
give me a laid back, just chilling type of manager.
Maaid back chills, Yeah, very composed. You don't think that
perhaps a Loop Panella or maybe even like a Billy
Martin fired up coach wouldn't have mixed with those nineties

(40:05):
two thousand Yankees teams. Maybe, but you also gave this
dude one year to vibe with your new star one year,
and look they went pretty far. I mean, I know,
I know it was reality, but it was reality based.
It was fiction based on reality, reality based on fiction.
The winning Time Lakers documentary on HBO that Danny we both.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Loved that, Yeah, it was great was canceled.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
But a lot of people were saying, oh, it's very exaggerated.
But if you remember the coach before pat Riley that
got in the bike accident, wasn't the sentiment that, like,
they got so much talent, but yeah he's really not
the guy, so like they like it was it almost
felt like they were with him, but the minute day
of the opportunity, it's like put in pat Riley and

(40:48):
then it was like, why this works? Maybe he just
wasn't the guy too tough for the Knicks. So maybe
if we get a little softy pants to be the coach,
the Knicks will be have in the win. Now, I
don't get it, Westhead, right, yeah, west Head, That's what
I was. Now we go to your phone calls.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Think back to that show, and I know it was
not completely factual, but it was based on, you know,
a true story. Obviously, Rich, the player's insurrection had a
lot to do with the problems that was going on
with that team, and it was Magic Johnson finally stepping
up to be a leader and pat Riley punching his

(41:28):
fist through a chalkboard to get everybody, all the players
to stop being soft little babies.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
That's true. I mean, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Rich.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
The manager or coach has to match their personalities or
has to vibe with the personalities on the team, and
sometimes it's not a good mix. You ever date someone,
but I think his record proves otherwise. You ever date
someone and you're like, yeah, we get along. Sex is good,
we enjoy some of the same things we enjoy. You know,

(41:57):
we get along. But there's a party that's like Jesus
not the one, she's not the one, like yeah, yeah,
we got a good physical connection, like she's cool, like yeah,
but it's not like where's the fireworks? And I think
the knicks are like the top. Thibodeau wasn't the guy
missing something. Sometimes you feel that way, but you work

(42:19):
well together. Like I felt that you weren't the one
when I met you. Look well, we worked together nice.
You see what I mean. You're not supposed to be
in love with your coach. You're suppos Are you supposed
to be BFFs with the guy? I wish you you're
supposed to be honestly, hold on. That was very rude
because when I saw you, I heard Mariachi's playing, I
was complete and I said, I have met my Mexican

(42:40):
soul man. For the record, I was completely joking. I
was just taking a cheap shot at Rich. But I've
worked for people that I didn't necessarily love, but they
found a way to bring out the best in me.
So therefore we won together. All right, let's uh, we'll
take a few phone calls about Thibodeau and then we'll
play Iron Mike Trivia actually is Shack Diesel Trivia today

(43:04):
chat Mike's got the day off. Oh Man, all right,
Shack Diesel. I saw him in the lobby, Jake and Indy,
what's up? Man?

Speaker 7 (43:10):
Thibadeau did the same thing in Chicago. He ran a
bunch of guys into the ground. But that's what he
was known for, the guys that he trusted. He gave
all the minutes too, and you had to prove yourself.

Speaker 9 (43:21):
Same thing with New York.

Speaker 7 (43:22):
He ran a couple guys, seven guys I think was
the seven guys he trusted in the playoffs.

Speaker 9 (43:28):
And he asked a lot of those guys. That's what
he did in Chicago. That's what he did in New York.
Is it premature? Absolutely? They should not have fired him.

Speaker 7 (43:38):
And as a Bulls fan, I would take him over
Donovan in an absolute New York minute.

Speaker 9 (43:43):
Thanks guys, appreciate you and Jake.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
That was the criticism. And when the Nick stepped off
the bench, they stepped up and they were like, well,
why didn't he do that sooner? You're paying these guys,
the guys you trust a lot of money for reason.
This is when it counts, you know. Sometimes I think
about connection to like I just gut connecting with the
guys on and off the court, like guy was saying,
you were saying that he has a reputation. He's not married.

(44:06):
He's a single guy. There wasn't there story where when
he was in Chicago he had a milk create with
a TV on.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
It, Yeah, and fare bones apartment like you know, not
like art on the wall and you know, a lot
of sophisticated stuff. He's just basketball pier and simple.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
And maybe that doesn't connect with these young dudes in
New York who knows and really quick rich.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Just so we get it right, because I know we
weren't around for this, we weren't alive yet. But it
was Jack McKinney who had the bicycle accident. Oh yeah,
you know I was gonna say yeah, and West had
took over for him, and then pat Riley took over
for him.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
That's what it was, okay, Yeah, eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox. Who else we got to move on?
I was just a twinkle in my dad's anyway, I
want to play for a sweekie.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Now or what let's go We're ready?

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Sure again, We're lying from the Fox Sports Radio studio.
Remember after the show, the podcast goes up. If you
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(45:10):
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almost crying. No, I saw you wipe in your tears.

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ESPN is going to ruin your show? I think you're crazy.
We got a new host and everything. It's me Charles,
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today with TIBs being fired.

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I say, if it don't work out on ESPN, I'm
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big man like me Shaq smack them around.

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Speaker 2 (47:40):
Firier Ah, dude, look at you. Very cool.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
It's a real hero, all right.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Here are the rules for Shack Diesel Trivia. The first
contestant with two correct answers is the champ. If there's
a tie, we have a tiebreaker question. Your name is
your buzzer, but you do have to wait until all
three possible answers are read. If there's two wrong answers
in a row, we move on to the next question.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Let's get it home.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
All right, let's get this big Ristotle party started. Who
was the second leading score of the OKC Thunder this season, Hey,
Chet Holme grom b, Jaylen Williams or C Alex Crusoe
second leading score, Moncy, Moncy, I'm gonna go be Jaylen Williams. Yeah,
why Yeah, just came to play like that, Moncey twenty

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one point six points on the board.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
And yeah, Jay, you got to be quick to say
your name there and nothing to lose. You're not punished
if you answer in correct. Monce you're messing around, all right?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Round two?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
All right, Round two, I'm a question, that's I'm sorry.
How much did how many the chat? It was close?

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Right, No, chat averaged close to seventeen I think or
fifteen and Williams twenty one point six?

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Okay, Caruso about eight or nine?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Hell?

Speaker 9 (48:48):
All right?

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Round two? What was that once quarter saying about living simple? Hey,
the simple life is for suckers. Complicated has given me
wealth b the only man who truly he has a
simple life, as Chuck when he's in a casino or c.
If you don't stick to simplicity, you'll die a horrible death.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeay, J go be no.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Rich Rich for the steal, Yes, sir, Right, that's a
great job. Nice thanks, all right, shock diels All right,
So Moncey and Rich both on the board. As we
moved around three.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
He's not being petty or anything. Isaiah Thomas has Michael
Jordan ranked as the eighth greatest baseball great greatest basketball player.
What year did the Bulls draft MJ A eighty three,
B eighty four or C eighty five?

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yeah, J eighty four, yees eighty four.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
NBA draft at the garde, Yes, sir, the Madison Square Garden.
So three way time. Moncey, Rich and Jay all on
the board as we moved around four.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
All right, Round four? What player did the Lakers trade
through the Hornets for the rights to Kobe Bryant, A
Elden Campbell, B Trump, Cercy or Clotti, dvak Riches.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
To the caller? All right, j for the win? What's that?

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Jay?

Speaker 2 (50:18):
No, damn Rich for the wind.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Let's get to b.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
You're both losers.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Why do I think that was not the answer?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
All right? So still a three way tie. Round fire.
Round five?

Speaker 8 (50:35):
Here go?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Which of these, by the way, is there any pizza left,
I don't think so, Pizza focus, Pepperoni. I got me
any meat, pizza sausage, Sam like sausage here that which
of these NBA players never won Rookie of the Year,
Alajuan be chasing Kidd or see Damian Lillard?

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Rich again the Jay, I might go on to guess
to say a game.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yep, yeah, and you know why he was in the
same draft as who? Michael Jordan correct, I don't know,
not before, Thanks Bill, Thanks Bill Belichick. Was it was
it that draft?

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Wasn't that draft? Sam Bouie Alajuan?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Then Jordan's yeah, we're looking it up right now.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
You tell us I know more about basketball than anyone
else in the sprint on.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I mean we're not nineteen. Yeah, we're not experts on
that year, right?

Speaker 1 (51:36):
That draft was? Well anyway, guys, I got things to
do it ESPN go go to Disney, pray me and Chuck. Yeah,
we're in a Disney prey pizza me, Chuck, goofy Donald.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
You got things to do. He gets enough free Papa
John's pizza.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
All right? Guys?

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Oh, your pick really quick for Thursday, dude, for the
finals crazers. Wow, all right, I said for Thursday, not
for the whole. Oh god, okay, guys, b.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Shack, Shack, thanks for stopping by.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
It was it was Sam Bouie and you know they
can never live that down. Correct. And in Portland and
then Olajuan, Olajuan going ahead of Jordan's was the number
one was the number one overall pick. And then to Sambo,
then Michael. I remember, you know, I was a little
that was I was in diapers, but I remember people
saying they couldn't blame the rockets were taking Ollajan. It's

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a one, but it was the booie pick that Everyone's like,
oh my god, how did you do that? Yes? Oh,
by the way, I was just giving bro hugs to
Shack in the whole.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
We didn't congratulate j Jay gonna mail that twiggy to
North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Congratulations brother, way to go.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, Jay's gonna mail his sexy fireman calendar Tomase. Yes,
I'll take it to put out fires.

Speaker 6 (52:54):
For the record, for the record, put the red Yankee
hat on the map, dude, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
And no mention, he got no mention. If I was
a Eagles fan, I'd be pooping my pants today because
I didn't believe in curses last year and I'm a
Niners fan. And who was on the cover of Madden
Christian McCaffrey. I don't know if you saw this though,
be you ware Eagles. Immediately after that, it was announced

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at Saquon Barkley would be on the cover of Madden
twenty six. He hopped on the grilla She knows steaks
in Sound Philly serving up cheese steaks nice. He's a
man of the people, you know, just the man before
we get to the feedback on this terrible story about
this girl Clara Adams who got heard stay title ripped away.
You're the king of this.

Speaker 10 (53:44):
You know.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
When someone tells you something, you're like, I knew that? Wait,
or did I? I'm the king of Bongo bomb me.
You you are the king of If someone drops a
fun fact, you're like, I knew that, and then you
convince yourself like did I know that? Or you're right,
because I'm like, I definitely knew that. I knew that.
Buddy Rob and head us up. He listens every day
down in San Antonio and he goes, did you know

(54:05):
that Kobe was traded for VADDI Devak, and I'm like, yeah,
of course I did. And I blanked or did I not? Did? I? Like,
you know, you're not sure once you hear the answer
when you hit the ANC, I believe there's a party that.
I can't believe you didn't know that I have quite
of course I knew that.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
I think the other interesting part of our job. We
read so many sports articles and watch so many sports
reels and clips and everything daily that there is so
much in our heads. Sometimes I feel like my head
is gonna explode.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
If people saw the text message thread between me, you
and Coveno just sending each other stuff day and night.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Yeah, and on weekends too. It never saw We're open
seven days a week, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
But uh, thank you for working hard as you do, Danny,
And I think I knew that.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Of course I did?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Or didn't I? And speaking of working a lot, Rich
and I do a Patreon every day Covino and rich
On Patreon, Patreon dot com, slash coven on Rich and
if you want to hear the uncensored version of us
and I'm today's Patreon. We talked about how how hard
it is as a parent sometimes when your kid doesn't
make the team, or when your kid is treated unfairly

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by the coaches or buy an organization. That's rough because
whatever your kid goes through, you go through as a parent,
and that's really really tough to deal with. Luckily, my
daughter made the cheer team last night, but you were
saying some of her friends, some of her friends didn't,
And my goodness, that's so tough because that's their social feeling.
Like if your buddy didn't make the team you were on,
you're like, oh, then you have to be all weird,
like you can't really talk about it, like yeah, the football,

(55:30):
I mean, yeah, what's up?

Speaker 7 (55:31):
Man?

Speaker 1 (55:31):
But thank god because I would have had to deal
with all that. Imagine how Clara adams dad feels when
she has to defend when he has to defend her
his daughter. Take a listen to Dave Adams defending Clara.
She was stripped of her state title.

Speaker 12 (55:46):
When she blew the fire singer shirt. The opponents were gone.
That was our moment of celebration and cif officials made
that about them. The crowd went crazy.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
They loved it.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
The booth.

Speaker 12 (55:57):
See if booth went crazy, they loved it. With those
few guys and those jackets they took offense to it,
didn't like it, and they made a decision based on emotions.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
So Dave is so disappointed and feels so bad for
his daughter. He was in on this celebration. This is
out of Selinas, California state title. Clara Adams ran the
four hundred meter fifty three twenty four and was disqualified
when she took the fire extinguisher to put out her
cleats in celebration. Yeah, she was so fast. Her shoes

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are on fire now again. Even the guy that's known
for it, Maurice Green, the American sprinter the icon was like, yo,
come on man, I'm famous for doing that. I was honored.
You gotta give her back her title. She's crying to
the public, but that's my title. That's all I want back.
I have the final wit end. She meant no disrespect.
It was just a celebration. The final way to end
this the positive. Now we know who Clara Adams is.

(56:52):
Congratulations She's getting some love on True Arts as well
as other I'm sure sports that work. So props to
Clara Adams. When you celebrate your victory, one could take
that away from her, could you know? Okay, the moment
she won, she knows, she wanted everyone know she won.
Now I think she is an example of robbery, right,
they took this from her. But even when someone wins
and they don't deserve it, whether it be the Astros

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or Barry Bonds with home runs or Reggie Bush flipping
into the end zone with his heisman and people, if
the moment happened, I can't unsee it. This girl won
the race. You can't undo that she won just because
if they want to strip this from her, f them.
She deserves it. She knows she won. Okay, And that

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was my problem with the Astros. Remember when I said, like,
you know they won, they cheated, but guess what they
got to do? Celebrate and you can't take that away. Gooder,
But you can't take that moment away. You can't so
one even though the state title was stripped again disqualified
for unsportsmanlike conduct, I guess. And the second question is
when you see little kids doing what the big leaguers do,

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can you be mad at them for that? No, If
a kid in league hits a double and starts doing
like the show, Hey Wave, it's annoying, But what do
you expect the Mets rolling in the hands into the fists.
And isn't that the entertainment factor and value of what
we want out of sports? Sometimes that's fun side of
It's why the Savannah Bananas are selling out stadiums right
and the Marlins and Rockies had one hundred people at

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the gadio. So how could you be man at a
kid or disqualifying or take their title away? My listen,
We'll continue tomorrow. Until then, have a great night. Are
you in the Promised Land? Goodbye, guys,