December 10, 2025 • 13 mins
Daniel Cormier IS BACK to talk about the biggest headlines in the UFC and MMA, and there is NO BIGGER HEADLINE than Justin Gaethje fighting Paddy Pimblett at UFC 326, which leaves Arman Tsarukyan out of the picture. DC addresses the decision to go with Gaethje vs. Paddy, and why he doubles down on saying it's CRAZY that Arman is being left out of the championship spotlight. Cormier believes there is NOBODY more deserving of competing for a title, and that Tsarukyan has to stay active in the meantime. DC also sheds some light on the division's future with Ilia Topuria awaiting the winner of that interim title fight. Cormier wants to know from you the fans: Should Arman be fighting for the title? Or is Gaethje vs. Pimblett the right fight while Ilia is sidelined? #Volume
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Speaker 2 (02:00):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, when we were in Vegas last weekend for
the pay per view, we had all these fights. They
had one of those season kickoff pressers that we used
to do and we got a number of fights. One
fight that we got that honestly started to break before
(02:21):
it became known was Justin Gaatesee versus Patty Pimblet. Now
Justin Gaichee pretty much said if he didn't get the
title fight, he was going to retire for fighting. You
know what's funny I heard about the fight so Justin
and I are friends. So I call him and start
giving him shit. I go, hey, so I'm just a
(02:41):
normal person. Now I gotta find out about the fight
from just a normal per like like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
He's like, wait, what you're telling me?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I was like, I'm not telling you, But he tried
to pretend that he had no idea. I don't buy
that for a second. I believe that he knew he
didn't tell me because I do this now.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Oh and.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I found out from the manager of the guy who
many thought was in the title fight, and he wasn't.
Armand's Rukian. Armand Rukian came on the channel two days
after his fight. He spoke about beating Dan Hooker and
how he felt that would be enough to warrant.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
A championship opportunity.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We as the MMA community, operated as if him going
out there and fighting Dan Hooker was going to be
enough to warrant him getting.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
A championship opportunity.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
There's a large section of the Mixed Martial arts fan
base who believes that now that Islami Katchiev is not
at one fifty five anymore, Ormont's Rukian maybe the only
guy that truly can challenge Illiot Topouria. With that being said,
we just kind of thought he was next. It just
felt like he was next. I made a video talking
(04:05):
about how I believe he was next. But now that's
been completely debunked, not only by the idea or honestly
the fact of Justin Gatgee and Patty Pimblet fighting each other.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Patty Pimlan, by the way, looked.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
In phenomenal shape in Las Vegas and he's still eight
weeks away from the fight. He is not Fatty Patty
at all. Guys, he looked in great shape as he's
getting ready to fight jg. Anyhow, we as a community
(04:44):
of people who watch this thing kind of.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Felt like he was gonna be next.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The interim title fight gets announced, it then immediately throws
things up in arms, like well, what's it mean for
Serukian Because generally the timeline works like this champion goes out.
Ilia is having some personal issues. It hats off to
Iliott for being honest about that. Hopefully Iliot can get
(05:11):
through that and get back to doing what makes them
so special sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Because he is the best.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I said, all my maybe the guy that can challenge
him because not many I've proven to have the ability
to challenge him. Lately he has been that good judgment
day a colossal global showdown between two of boxing's biggest stars.
The disruptor international superstar in WBA number fourteen ranked Cruise
(05:45):
aweight Jake el Gio del Dorado Paul, who's twelve and
one with seven knockouts and two times unified WBO, WBA
and IBF.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Heavyweight world Champion and guys.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
He also was in the Olympic Gold Medalists. The knockout
artist that is Anthony Joshua. Joshua, by the way, is
twenty eight and four with twenty five knockouts. This matchup
unites Jake Paul, the sports most watch fighter whose showmanship
has kind of honestly, he's redefined boxing or modern boxing
(06:19):
for the record, and he shattered records at every single turn.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You can love him, I hate him, but this is
just the truth.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Anthony Joshua is one of boxing's most accomplished respected He's
also one of the most feared punchers in the world
of boxing. In two times he unified the heavyweight division.
This dude has headline sold out stadiums across the UK
and beyond.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Jake Paul will face.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
The most dangerous, the most dangerous and defining fight of
his entire career against Joshua, Britain's two time unified heavyweight
world champion and also the Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's crazy how Anthony.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Joshua's Olympic gold medal is like secondary to everything he's
done in boxing because he's been so good. They'll fight
in a professional heavyweight mega fight. It's gonna be scheduled
for eight three minute rounds. They'll fight in tenous gloves.
So watch Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua Friday, December nineteenth,
eight pm Eastern, five pm Pacific Standard time.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Live only on Netflix. What an event. This is going
to be crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But then Dana's at the postfight press conference the other
day and he's asked about Armin Serukian and guys, we
know that when Armin Serukiin didn't fight in Los Angeles,
that is a massive black eye for a fighter and
a promotion. And guess what, rightfully so rightfully so, anybody
(07:45):
that tells you any different, they're not being completely truthful.
Because anytime you lose a main event, it doesn't matter
what happens.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
As the chips fall, you still lost the main event.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
When the fights are put together and they're built for something,
sponsors are brought on, promotional materials are taken care of.
Getting a fight ready to go to market is a
big deal. So anytime a fight gets canceled twenty four
hours before a fight, it's not good. And it sounded
(08:24):
like right after that Armor was gonna have to do
a lot of good favor to get back into position
a to fight for the belt.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Here's where I thought he had done that. Here's why
I thought he had done that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I thought that when Charles Olavera fought Ilia and he
weighs it as the backup fighter, I mean, the backup
fighter is probably the most I mean, it's the most
unthankful job in fighting because you get into a training camp,
cut all the way, you make the weight, and you
(09:01):
really get nothing but your show money.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
To go for it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You don't get to fight that's what you want to do.
You don't get to do that. You go step on
that scale and unless something happens, you don't get to fight,
and most times nothing happens it.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Most times nothing happens.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You know what's kind of You know what's kind of
like point of justice is that when he waiving as
the backup fighter, if anything would have happened like happened
with him in January.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
He would have gotten that title opportunity. But we all
kind of.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Expected him to do that good favor. Then he goes
and fights Dan Hooker, smashes him completely, destroys him.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Good favor. You should think that that would be enough
for him to say.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
But here's where my biggest question is when Dana says arma.
When he says Armand knows, I'm like, well, are they
already speaking to him about this and what he's doing?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Because he goes I wouldn't say that Armand.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Is the odd man out. He said he had an opportunity,
and you guys know how that played out. He's gonna
have to work his way back. I don't give a shit.
With number is next to your name, you're gonna have
to work your way back. Look again, I get it,
but weighing in as the backup fighter, fighting Dan Hooker,
(10:33):
those are all steps towards regaining that confidence in the
organization to get him a title fight. I still believe
that Armatukian should be fighting for some version of the
UFC Lightweight Championship. But when Dana says, armand knows, what
did they talk about privately that we don't know?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Is there a set of like set of stops. Maybe
there's a set of.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Obstacles or hurdles, or there's a baseline of what he
needs to do in order to get back there, and
we just don't know about it. Because he goes armand
knows he didn't say it. Well, Arma just ain't getting it,
he said, armand knows. When I hear that, I'm like, well,
maybe these guys are spoken about something and he has
(11:30):
parameters set in front of him that will then tell
him when it's his time to fight for the UFC championship.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
He's so good though, that.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I don't know how many fights are risky enough to
really stop him from winning his way back to an
opportunity to fight for the belt. A lot of people
believe he's the best lightweight in the world.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That Islam's gone.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I'm not saying I want of them, but there are
a number of peop that believe that he deserves the
title fight. He deserves a title fight. His style is
a nightmare for every guy. That's right, now hanging around
the belt. But if he doesn't get moving, there's gonna
(12:18):
be an interim champion in January. The champion is gonna
be back sometimes next year the BMF title is on
the line. Max Holloway defends that thing again. Now he
is a viable challenge for the lightweight championship. Armins Rukian.
By doing those things haven't gotten closer to a title fight.
(12:41):
I would say he's either exactly where he started and
if we get through January, I don't know if he's
gonna be further away than he was. I think it's crazy.
I think it's crazy. I think this guy's number one contender.
I should get an opportunity. But let me know what
you guys think. Jump in those comments, tell me what
(13:02):
you think about Armin Trukian and where he should be
fighting and who he should be fighting.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And Luis is gonna throw a pole in that.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
We want to kind of know Armin Rukion or illiot
the poor you Let us hear those thoughts.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Until next time, Guys like subscribe and tell your friends
I got a YouTube channel. I'm doing things like this
until next time. Peace,
The volume. All right, guys, today's show is brought to
you by a new sponsor, hard Rock Bet. Hard Rock
Bet is a top rated sportsbook app. It might just
take the belt from any other sportsbook app that you
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for yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And guys, if you haven't tried your.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
First bet on hard Rock Bet, there's still time if
you can get one to fifty and bonus bets if
you win, so place a five dollar bet. If that
bet hits, you not only get your winnings, but you
get one hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets right away. Guys,
Today's a great day to try the hard Rock Bet
sports app. So it's not just the welcome offer. You
(00:45):
can get bonus bets. You can get parlay, insurance and
other rewards. The rewards and the promos are NonStop. So
download the hard Rock Bet app and make your first
deposit today. And bonus betts is not a cash offer
offered by the Seminal Tribe of Florida and Florida offered
(01:06):
by Siminal hard Rock Digital LLC. In all other states.
You must be twenty one or older and physically present
in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee,
or Virginia to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about
gambling in Florida called one eight eight eight A d
(01:27):
mit it. In Indiana, if you are someone you know
has a gambling problem and wants help, call one eight
hundred nine with it. And if you have a gambling
problem call one eight hundred gambler.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We'll sell.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Guys, Welcome to a brand new episode that dc TV
brought to you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider
of UFC. They're in your corner with unlimited five G
data that will not slow you down.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, when we were in Vegas last weekend for
the pay per view, we had all these fights. They
had one of those season kickoff pressers that we used
to do and we got a number of fights. One
fight that we got that honestly started to break before
(02:21):
it became known was Justin Gaatesee versus Patty Pimblet. Now
Justin Gaichee pretty much said if he didn't get the
title fight, he was going to retire for fighting. You
know what's funny I heard about the fight so Justin
and I are friends. So I call him and start
giving him shit. I go, hey, so I'm just a
(02:41):
normal person. Now I gotta find out about the fight
from just a normal per like like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
He's like, wait, what you're telling me?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I was like, I'm not telling you, But he tried
to pretend that he had no idea. I don't buy
that for a second. I believe that he knew he
didn't tell me because I do this now.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Oh and.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I found out from the manager of the guy who
many thought was in the title fight, and he wasn't.
Armand's Rukian. Armand Rukian came on the channel two days
after his fight. He spoke about beating Dan Hooker and
how he felt that would be enough to warrant.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
A championship opportunity.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We as the MMA community, operated as if him going
out there and fighting Dan Hooker was going to be
enough to warrant him getting.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
A championship opportunity.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
There's a large section of the Mixed Martial arts fan
base who believes that now that Islami Katchiev is not
at one fifty five anymore, Ormont's Rukian maybe the only
guy that truly can challenge Illiot Topouria. With that being said,
we just kind of thought he was next. It just
felt like he was next. I made a video talking
(04:05):
about how I believe he was next. But now that's
been completely debunked, not only by the idea or honestly
the fact of Justin Gatgee and Patty Pimblet fighting each other.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Patty Pimlan, by the way, looked.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
In phenomenal shape in Las Vegas and he's still eight
weeks away from the fight. He is not Fatty Patty
at all. Guys, he looked in great shape as he's
getting ready to fight jg. Anyhow, we as a community
(04:44):
of people who watch this thing kind of.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Felt like he was gonna be next.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The interim title fight gets announced, it then immediately throws
things up in arms, like well, what's it mean for
Serukian Because generally the timeline works like this champion goes out.
Ilia is having some personal issues. It hats off to
Iliott for being honest about that. Hopefully Iliot can get
(05:11):
through that and get back to doing what makes them
so special sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Because he is the best.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I said, all my maybe the guy that can challenge
him because not many I've proven to have the ability
to challenge him. Lately he has been that good judgment
day a colossal global showdown between two of boxing's biggest stars.
The disruptor international superstar in WBA number fourteen ranked Cruise
(05:45):
aweight Jake el Gio del Dorado Paul, who's twelve and
one with seven knockouts and two times unified WBO, WBA
and IBF.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Heavyweight world Champion and guys.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
He also was in the Olympic Gold Medalists. The knockout
artist that is Anthony Joshua. Joshua, by the way, is
twenty eight and four with twenty five knockouts. This matchup
unites Jake Paul, the sports most watch fighter whose showmanship
has kind of honestly, he's redefined boxing or modern boxing
(06:19):
for the record, and he shattered records at every single turn.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You can love him, I hate him, but this is
just the truth.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Anthony Joshua is one of boxing's most accomplished respected He's
also one of the most feared punchers in the world
of boxing. In two times he unified the heavyweight division.
This dude has headline sold out stadiums across the UK
and beyond.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Jake Paul will face.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
The most dangerous, the most dangerous and defining fight of
his entire career against Joshua, Britain's two time unified heavyweight
world champion and also the Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's crazy how Anthony.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Joshua's Olympic gold medal is like secondary to everything he's
done in boxing because he's been so good. They'll fight
in a professional heavyweight mega fight. It's gonna be scheduled
for eight three minute rounds. They'll fight in tenous gloves.
So watch Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua Friday, December nineteenth,
eight pm Eastern, five pm Pacific Standard time.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Live only on Netflix. What an event. This is going
to be crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But then Dana's at the postfight press conference the other
day and he's asked about Armin Serukian and guys, we
know that when Armin Serukiin didn't fight in Los Angeles,
that is a massive black eye for a fighter and
a promotion. And guess what, rightfully so rightfully so, anybody
(07:45):
that tells you any different, they're not being completely truthful.
Because anytime you lose a main event, it doesn't matter
what happens.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
As the chips fall, you still lost the main event.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
When the fights are put together and they're built for something,
sponsors are brought on, promotional materials are taken care of.
Getting a fight ready to go to market is a
big deal. So anytime a fight gets canceled twenty four
hours before a fight, it's not good. And it sounded
(08:24):
like right after that Armor was gonna have to do
a lot of good favor to get back into position
a to fight for the belt.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Here's where I thought he had done that. Here's why
I thought he had done that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I thought that when Charles Olavera fought Ilia and he
weighs it as the backup fighter, I mean, the backup
fighter is probably the most I mean, it's the most
unthankful job in fighting because you get into a training camp,
cut all the way, you make the weight, and you
(09:01):
really get nothing but your show money.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
To go for it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You don't get to fight that's what you want to do.
You don't get to do that. You go step on
that scale and unless something happens, you don't get to fight,
and most times nothing happens it.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Most times nothing happens.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You know what's kind of You know what's kind of
like point of justice is that when he waiving as
the backup fighter, if anything would have happened like happened
with him in January.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
He would have gotten that title opportunity. But we all
kind of.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Expected him to do that good favor. Then he goes
and fights Dan Hooker, smashes him completely, destroys him.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Good favor. You should think that that would be enough
for him to say.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
But here's where my biggest question is when Dana says arma.
When he says Armand knows, I'm like, well, are they
already speaking to him about this and what he's doing?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Because he goes I wouldn't say that Armand.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Is the odd man out. He said he had an opportunity,
and you guys know how that played out. He's gonna
have to work his way back. I don't give a shit.
With number is next to your name, you're gonna have
to work your way back. Look again, I get it,
but weighing in as the backup fighter, fighting Dan Hooker,
(10:33):
those are all steps towards regaining that confidence in the
organization to get him a title fight. I still believe
that Armatukian should be fighting for some version of the
UFC Lightweight Championship. But when Dana says, armand knows, what
did they talk about privately that we don't know?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Is there a set of like set of stops. Maybe
there's a set of.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Obstacles or hurdles, or there's a baseline of what he
needs to do in order to get back there, and
we just don't know about it. Because he goes armand
knows he didn't say it. Well, Arma just ain't getting it,
he said, armand knows. When I hear that, I'm like, well,
maybe these guys are spoken about something and he has
(11:30):
parameters set in front of him that will then tell
him when it's his time to fight for the UFC championship.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
He's so good though, that.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I don't know how many fights are risky enough to
really stop him from winning his way back to an
opportunity to fight for the belt. A lot of people
believe he's the best lightweight in the world.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That Islam's gone.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I'm not saying I want of them, but there are
a number of peop that believe that he deserves the
title fight. He deserves a title fight. His style is
a nightmare for every guy. That's right, now hanging around
the belt. But if he doesn't get moving, there's gonna
(12:18):
be an interim champion in January. The champion is gonna
be back sometimes next year the BMF title is on
the line. Max Holloway defends that thing again. Now he
is a viable challenge for the lightweight championship. Armins Rukian.
By doing those things haven't gotten closer to a title fight.
(12:41):
I would say he's either exactly where he started and
if we get through January, I don't know if he's
gonna be further away than he was. I think it's crazy.
I think it's crazy. I think this guy's number one contender.
I should get an opportunity. But let me know what
you guys think. Jump in those comments, tell me what
(13:02):
you think about Armin Trukian and where he should be
fighting and who he should be fighting.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And Luis is gonna throw a pole in that.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
We want to kind of know Armin Rukion or illiot
the poor you Let us hear those thoughts.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Until next time, Guys like subscribe and tell your friends
I got a YouTube channel. I'm doing things like this
until next time. Peace,
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