Draymond Green and Baron Davis share their reactions to the unveiling of Dwyane Wade’s statue for the Miami Heat (20:00). They discuss whether the Oklahoma City Thunder need to change their approach to win a championship, as well as whether Giannis Antetokounmpo and Damian Lillard are the main issues for the Bucks, or if there are other factors at play. Draymond also provides insight into Steph Curry's injury, stressing the importance of improved performance in Curry's absence (23:00). Additionally, Baron recounts a viral moment when he ran into Los Angeles head coach JJ Redick at a car wash in LA, where Redick was watching game tape (3:00).
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Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, there's been a lot of conversation about him sitting
out back to backs. But I will say players are
starting to think about their future after basketball is.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Over as well.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Word but I know Loads word, but I know loan
management for him has to be something the whole franchise
got to be thinking about at this point. It got
me thinking about how long seasons is about to be
for you as well. This is about to be a
long season for you, dog.
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Shopping yesterday on Amazon and I got some looks for you,
some different.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
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Speaker 2 (02:13):
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be something the whole franchises, you know, thinking about, they
worried about. And then it got me thinking, man, you
know you ain't what your thirteenth year. You know, I
gotta be thinking about you, brother. So I went shopping
yesterday on Amazon and I got to look for you
(02:33):
with some different options, and I got a box and
a gift for you, and I ordered something from you
for Amazon for this season.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
There it is, it's already open. Hey, a massage gun.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
This is clutch for anybody who travels a lot, especially
for me when playing role games load managements.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I looked at different options and feel like I ordered
the right gift for you.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Got it all right? How fucked up on that? All right? Word? Oh? Okay,
okay with that? Weren't But it's already open. Oh wait,
oh okay, okay, starting to work.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But I know load manage for him for uh word?
But I know load management for him has to be
something the whole franchise has been thinking about. And it
has me thinking about you, Drey. It got me thinking,
you know, this is a long season and for you.
(03:47):
I had to go shopping yesterday on Amazon. I looked
at different options and I feel like I ordered the
right thing for you, brother, You have the right gift
for me.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There it is already. Oh hey, a massage gun.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
This is clutch for anyone who travels a lot, and
especially for me when playing road games. However, load management
really becomes a factor in back to backs games across
the country.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
See I'm looking out for my dog. I appreciate it. Man.
You know them back to them back to backs. They
are tough. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I understand where older players are coming from when they
say when they say, yo, you need to play back
to the backs.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
There's no such thing as low management. We have X
amount of games.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But then you see, like some of the older players
and their bodies are broken down later in life. And
I think with all of the science that we have today,
everyone takes things a bit more seriously and we use
the science whereas they didn't have that back in the day.
So you know, it's a couple of things rearing his
ugly head. But yet I think there's valid points for
(05:03):
both sides. I agree, man.
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I play, they had a massage gun and it was
still and so if they hit your bomb, bro, it
hit like your shit, you may be out for the game.
Now you know, they got all these great products, and
so shout out to Amazon. I picked the right gift
(05:26):
for you, bro, Hulp, you like the massage gun, shied
long chevity, much needed longevity.
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Speaker 3 (06:39):
What's up? Everyone? Welcome back to The Draymond Green Show.
B Day. What to do? What you're doing with my brother?
What's up a big dog? How you feeling? I feel great, brother? Uh,
disappointed and lost last week, but we'll get into that.
If I got something over the weekend, I see you, tweeted.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Just ran into at JJ Reddick at the car wash.
He had the livetop watching film players coach Lakers in
great hands hashtag dedication.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Talk to me about this, like, like, what are you
thinking when you run to the station.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know, bro, it's a casual Saturday. You know you're
doing parents stuff. You that's your day off. You know
what I mean? You probably coming off of back to back.
You know, we all in the same, you know, J
we all in the same neighborhood. Our kids play at
the park, and so I was going to get my
car washed, and me and my kids went and got
(07:37):
some lunch. I come back from the car wash, I
see JJ Redd and he run up on me.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
What's up, BD, what's up? Jj? I look over there.
I'm like, damn, bro, you over here. You getting it in? Uh?
You're working. He's like, man, I ain't playing around. And
we sat there.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
We had a conversation about just him the team, and
I was telling him, like, yo, bro, your personality on
this team gives him real leadership. And he was just
talking about like you know, looking at breaking down film,
but talking about the game, and it's he's one of
those dudes you can talk basketball all day, you know
(08:13):
what I mean. And you know, I got excited because
it's you know, it's like talking to one of your
peers as a coach, and you're like, man, I want
you to win so bad because you know what the
fuck you're talking about, you know what I mean? And
and and you gonna get these dudes to play like
he talking about all other players, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
He talking about you know, that's that's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He talking about the You know, absolutely bron gonna do
what he's do. You know that a D a D now,
We all know how special a D is. But a
D right now is playing at the level that everyone
has kind of hoped and thought that he would play
at for many years.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
The way he's dominating right now is unlike an ad
We Tarver sitting in my opinion, and I think that
that does have You know that that does have a
lot to do with coaching.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I think coaching has you know, one of the biggest
roles for a coach is you're one of two things.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You're even either a confidence giver or you're a confidence taker.
And what it's looking like with not only a D,
but with.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Austin Reeves, Austin Reeves d D Low hasn't played this great,
But what it's looking like with those other guys is
Jackson Hayes.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
They have confidence and they have a belief in themselves.
And man, when you got that type of confidence and
you're getting that from the coast, it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Goes a long way, especially in the league right because
everybody can play and a lot of it is like
I don't think fans or people really understand it's all
and tangibles, right am I playing do I got confidence
on working out? Like people when people say basketball is
a mental game, it's all the mental components of the
(10:11):
things you have to have, like some mental fortitude, you
know what I mean, Like I'm really good, I'm sitting
on the bench, you know what I mean, I'm losing
my like. So having a coach believe in you and
letting you go out and hoop the way you know
how to hoop, bro, that that turns you into a
whole different species, you know what I mean. And I
(10:31):
think I'm we're seeing that, you know from the Lakers.
I think you know when y'all had to run you
you knew that, Like you already knew who you was
coming to the game, you know what I mean. And
you can do anything. You can make adjustments on the fly.
So that type of confidence, right allows you to be
(10:51):
a real, real basketball player, you feel, and not a
system player.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
That's a fact, said, I agree. So they looking good.
We'll see you know how it continues as we move forward,
because one thing I do think is if they're going
to continue to play out a high level, they are
going to need a better dal for sure, Like d
low or his shot making ability, his scoring ability. They're
going to need him to play at a high level.
(11:20):
And some of his interviews I saw early was kind
of like a little I turn it, I catch you.
You know. It was like you couldn't kind of tell
whether he was.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Over it or pull them. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So which way they turned him I think will be
ultimately will be important as teams get into the season.
You know, everybody start to get to, you know, a
position of where they know what's going on, conditioning levels,
all the stuff, and everybody's clicking. As you get into
the season, you're going to need a better d LO.
(11:55):
So I think that's something to watch for. But I
think they are doing well. But I got one for you.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I got another one for you. So a lot a
lot of people talking about this one from your your era,
although I did play against D two number one. First,
I want to say congratulations to.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Day, Congratulations to Flash my dog.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That's my dog.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yes, sir, I think like to get a statue man
like that, to get your jersey retired is one thing
like That's that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It's great to get a statue like another level, Bro
you're not going to.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's a totally now immortalized you know, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Number one. Like I said, congrats to him, but we must.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
What was your first thoughts when you saw the statue?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
People?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You know, people are making a lot of body d
Wade said, who is that? Guy?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Man? Your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Man?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Man?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Man?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
All right?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
First of all, First of all, I want to echo
let you say.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Flash Hall of Famer Olympian, you know what I mean,
NBA champ uh.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You know, to have have.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Your jersey retired to be immortalized in the statue, you know, incredible,
you know what I mean? Probably emotional day all the
people out there and shout out to the Miami Heat
organization because they just always.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know, do it right.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Until until they picked a person to design the statue.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I got some jokes because I felt she was gonna
a me this. I said, why did they give d
Way a team move statue? When he said.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, when he said who is it? I was like, man,
who is that?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You know?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Hey? Bro? Who is that? Who is that? Hey?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I would like to make an announcement right now to
anybody retiring or anybody picking another statue, please consult with
Baron Davis Enterprises on how how to approve and design
a statue. Come on, dude, I mean, come on, dog,
we back check this out.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
They did.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Look how they did Iverson in Philly, and now look
how they do it like this big huh.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I couldn't believe a statue they had.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
They gave a an Oscar an Oscar trophy.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Come on, dude, that's the answer, yo.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So check this out. Check this out. I saw pictures
of d Wade viewing the statue face it's actually I
think it was on Rachel Nichols page if d Wade
viewing the statue, and I must say, the mock up
(15:30):
of his face looks absolutely nothing like the statue turned out.
So everybody's like, oh, d Wade saw at first, like
he know, he saw, he approved it, But the mock
up of his face before the turnout, it looked like
d Wade. Afterwards it looked like Tim Thomas.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I don't quite.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Understand how it ended up that way. But my thing
is like, don't they show the statue to maybe someone
like pat Riley, like when it's complete, before they just
unveiled and everybody like, oh, yo, who is that guy?
(16:17):
I just and then and then another one is the
then the the guy who made the statue comes out
today with a statement saying it is not for all
humans to understand, it's not for all human activity or
something of that nature.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And I'm just like, yo, you can't come out.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And then that hey, you know what, it was one
person that came out and agree with your statute.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Facebook, Come on, you got this is what I think.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I think they were like, yo, d Way, we need
you to pose for this statue. And you know how
busy is He's like, man, I ain't got all all
day and this ship was taken all day. So he
called his cousin and say, hey, man, so you think
it could be his cousin. He was like, man, I'm
(17:11):
tired of this ship. He doesn't stand in And the
artist didn't know if it was d Wade or the
cousin Dshaun Wade, damn man, shout.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Out to this way man. We love you, bro, We
love you bro. It's just no butler. I actually saw
the Wade last week. Man.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
It's always a pleasure just to see d Wade, to
be in his presages. But you got can they like,
we gotta do something we got.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
To do something.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
We gotta do something because like think about like twenty
years from now, you know what I mean, Like he
gonna be like, yo, like here's my statue, you know
what I mean, And your grandkid's gonna be like, hey, man,
knock it off.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
He looked twenty years older in the statue right now. Man, hey, hey,
hire me.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
To find the artists to create art or statues to
represent these legends.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Lauren Hawsey, I'm not this artists. He'd be great at it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm not dissing the artists or nothing, because I understand
art I understand artists.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Tree, but.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
When you do sculptures of people, you know what I mean,
you're gonna face the most backlash because we know what
d Wade look like, you know what I mean, And
so we want.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
To see we want to see a d Way statue,
you know what I mean? Yeah, all right, that's the fact.
I agree.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I hope they can like twist the head off to
like change it out or something, because our paint like
a hologram on the face, you know what I mean.
Like it's like maybe something, use some AI, a three
D printer something. We got too many things today. This
must be correct. This must be correct.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Uh, he gonna be buy my statue Duck and his
ship like that.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Ain't me. I ain't gonna get in a statue. So
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I'm gonna make my own ship put outside my granny house.
But now with that artist right in the hood. Now
with that grandiated, that's like the homie. That's like the hommie. Like, hey, bro,
let me make a statue.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
For you in the front of grannyhouse.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
D Wade, these are jokes, man, Well you all, d Wade,
that's one boy man.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The way be on my next season. The WTF bearon Davis?
So he already know I love you, bro. Yes, sir,
congratulations out. That's a that's amazing way you coning.
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Speaker 2 (21:30):
Man, it looked like our boys Steph will be reevaluated.
On Friday, he had an ankle injury against the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Now with him missing the next two games.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I think you know it helps, But how do you
feel that changes your game.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
With Steph not being there you know early on this season? Uh,
gotta be more aggressive for sure. I think you know,
you gotta find I mean number one, it was very
uplifting and refreshing to see him walking today, absolutely, because
he's walking pretty good. Uh So I thought that was
(22:13):
that was good to see. Gives you a little more
hope than what what you initially had when I saw
him leader floor. Uh So that was good.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I think for me, Uh, obviously have to be more aggressive,
try to find different spots to score. Got to get
up out that corner, and then I'll probably handle the
ball more, you know, be being more of a decision
making and more of a decision making role. But it's
(22:47):
interesting because you know, I don't really know what that
intels today because we're kind of running an entirely different offense.
You know, so in a normal world where you know
the offense that we've been running for the last ten years,
llion years, I know exactly what that looks like.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But we're kind of running a different offense this year,
and so it's hard for me to say currently what
that'll look like for you. But I imagine that. You know,
shots will come in different areas because the gravity that
Steph pulls it won't be there, so you'll probably find
(23:26):
shots in different areas than normal. So just got to
be aggressive and willing to take those shots because with
all the stuff on the floor, the first open shot
you get is probably going to be the best shot
that you're going to get throughout that possession, as opposed
to you get an open shot with Steph on the floor,
you still something else still going to open up once
(23:47):
he started moving, because he just draws so much attention.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I've been watching the way y'all play too, and I
think you can take more opportunities to just get more points,
you know what I mean. It's like especially like posting up,
you know what I'm saying, So like the way I
was looking at it is like, man, this should help you.
It should help the young guys right and start figuring out,
(24:14):
like oh shit, let me start getting back in the
post because ain't nobody posting up, you know what I mean?
And like shit, you got post work, you know what
I mean? You got you got post work. So it's
like it could be and then also like now step out.
Now you back to secondary push pace, push, you know
what I mean, moving the ball, cutting like all that
(24:37):
little murkiness you know, with the intelligence. Okay, I'm gonna
get to the free throw line. Okay, we can slow
the game down. Like I think with youall new offense
and with these young guys, like it's gonna be like it.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
It should open something up.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
So when stuff come back, when other people like the gravity,
like you say, the gravity he pulled, it's almost like damn,
like pick your poison, you know what I mean, Pick
your poison. So I like that, man. And there was
a moment I think, so there was a moment in
(25:15):
the Clippers game when Stephi you collided. You came up
hoppling after that. Has something like that ever happened to
you in the thirteen years?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Listen? Man, what'd you say?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, it's a question, Oh my god, my dog?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
What what are you and Steph doing that? There?
Speaker 8 (25:51):
I relaxed, relaxed, man, Yo, that was shure hurts I
give him he bro I in thirteen years? Have you
have you witness?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Bro? He came up to me after like, yo, you
are I.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Kind of read it and tell you I'm like, you
think you're ready to me, and that's how you trying
to hop out the way.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Edit that out. I saw you trying to hop out
the way, but I kind of read it to you. You good.
Oh that was so funny. Yeah, I'm all right. I
hurt bro.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I still feel the residual effect of that. By the way,
I don't go away just right away. That was crazy. No,
I haven't ever had anything like that.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Have it for me? Oh oh man, oh man, listen,
let's move on. That was crazy. Ah man, that was
you know what I'm not I'm not going to discuss this. Listen, man,
We're moving on. We got back to back, coming up
(27:15):
against the Pelicans.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Obviously, everything becomes stuff tougher with stuff out, but not
only is Steph out.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You got wigs out. You got damn them ol now.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And so you know, it's crazy because we're going to
last night, and it's just crazy. The NBA, Man, it
changes everything, as you know, man, it changes so fast.
And so you're going into last yesterday and just won
two games by seventy seven points.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Started season combined.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Feeling good looking at the home stretch where you like,
all right, we got the Clippers coming in.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Then we got the Pelicans coming in twice.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You know you're looking at that, You're like, yo, we
could possibly start four one, five and oh, which is
a great start.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You let one get away yesterday that you know they
just came up. They punched us in the mouth. Yeah,
they punched us in the mouth. Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
They defend the great. They were really good offensively. They
put a lot of pressure on the rim getting downhill.
You know, Derrick Jones Junior hit three threes like they
had guys making shots. They played well, and all of
a sudden, you lose that one. But not only do
you lose that one again, just how quick stuff shame
(28:35):
you got those three guys out now and with a
tough back to back coming up, So not only are
you losing some of the depth which we spoke about,
but you're going into a back of back to back
and losing that depth, and so it just makes things
a lot tougher and just shows you how fast stuff
can change in this league all of a sudden, Like
I said, you're looking like, yo, we could possibly start
(28:57):
four one, oh, and then you face with these injuries, man,
and it's just crazy just looking at.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
You when you're looking at the schedule.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I remember I used to look at the schedule month
to month and say, damn, he's gonna be the tough ones.
These are the ones we have to get, you know
what I mean? And then this is a rubber game,
you know what I mean? Yeah, And so when you
got injuries and you know, you get a hard fuck
game like the Clippers, Like, damn, you know we was rolling,
(29:28):
We got caught up. Now you got Zion coming in,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, for sure, and we got to slow him down,
like Zion. Zion is a very tough, tough cover man
because he Zion is like Zion is like a linebacker
who's like you can't run the ball against him, or
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like a running back who's just constantly putting pressure on
on your front seven. He always puts pressure on the rim,
like at all times, he's putting pressure on the rim,
which which reminds me a lot of Blake Griffith when
I was playing Blake, when I was playing Blake during
you know them years when he was with the Clippers,
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always putting pressure on the rim. Always a lot of
four strong as hell and like you can do what
you want.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
They're putting their head down to get to the rim.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And you know, it's just a matter of you like
trying at the file, trying to make him make tough shots,
and then trying to keep a body in front of him,
understanding your distance to the rim, because ultimately you got
to know once that once both of those guys are
inside the free throws at that point, DELI just jump
and once they jump.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
There's nothing you can do, like they're gonna figure it
out in the air because they got that type of bounce.
And so slowing down Zion is tough, uh, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And you know, one of the ways that you try
to slow Zion down is not always defensively, it's in
putting him in action on the defensive end because you
don't want him getting the rest on that end. And
with Steph out again, that's another one of those things
that makes it tougher to kind of bring him into
the action and also try to wear him down on
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the other end as well. So you know, it creates
it creates a lot of issues, but nonetheless it starts
with doing the job on Zion, which will have to
try to slow him down in order to try to
stagnate their offense.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I agree he's and like I think with him and Blake,
you know, the difference is he brings the ball up.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The court, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You know, I like how to you. I wish like
Vinnie del Nigger would have used Blake like my boy
Willie Green is using Zion as like a playmaker, initiate
the offense, move him around.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
But I do think you know, there's a gift and
a curse with.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That, right because Zion, for how he's built, he's downhill downhill, downhill, downhill.
And you know, I always say this about bigger guys.
It's like when you play a guard game and you
move like a guard, you're susceptible, right, and prone to
more injuries, right because you're cutting, trying.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
To be finessed.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And like with a dude like that, he coming downhill,
people getting in his way, right is.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And like his cutting, the way he moved is just
it just.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Put a lot of wear and tear on it on
him and put a lot of fatigue. So in a
situation like that, you gotta put him in picking rolls.
You gotta post him up because he puts the ball
up two or three times, go to the Oh he
gonna follow on the other end, right, and so you.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Got to play that. You gotta play that kind.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Of like that game and stay in front of him
and ground him as much as.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You can, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I used to see Blake like I used to tell Blake, like, yo, Bro,
if you got space, I'm just gonna throw the ball up.
I don't even care because can't nobody get get vertical
faster than you can, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
But I do think.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You can stifflem because you know why I'm picking you, bro.
You're my front runner for Defensive Player of the Year,
and I'm about to lead a campaign throughout the season, right,
and so I want to share with our fans some
impressive stats to start. My guy, Jmon Green on my
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fantasy sleeper app is holding opponents to just twenty nine
point six percent shooting through three games this season.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Now, I hope I hope you get I hope you
get points for defense because my two, two and five
not serve you well.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Last night, you dog, I was I'll take the L.
You know what I mean, I take the L.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I'm a bounce back man. I gotta I gotta give
myself up out of that corner. I'm a bounce back
for you.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
All that with the defensive Player of the Year, You
know what I mean, I need I need that, Like
we gotta get the boards.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
You know what I mean, we gotta we gotta up that.
We gotta up to Anny on that. Like you a D.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I got you because I think your team is going
to be a great defensive team and you're gonna be
a different type of anchor in than a D. So
I got you, n a D defensive player, but I'm
campaigning for you.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I appreciate that, Bro.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I think we definitely got a chance to be a really,
really really good defensive team. Obviously that starts with me
as the anchor of the defense, and so I'm really
locked in on that end. Man, I think, uh.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And then you know, seeing a D and what he's doing,
I'm like, man, heyd he need to stop talking about
defensive Player of the Year and go put himself in
that V category with JT. Man. Come on, man, going
away from over here? Man over there, what you're doing? Man,
go ahead over there? You know what I'm saying. So
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now I'm locked in though, I think uh. And then
also we got uh.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
You know, we brought in Jerry Stackhouse and Stack is
coaching the defense, and Stack got everybody locked in. He
like grade everything you do every game, and so there's
a level of it, there's a level of accountability.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
And last night, man, he had my grade low and
I'm like Stack, and he showed he showed a couple
of the clips of what he said I did wrong.
I'm like, yo, Stack, I can't leave Zubosh's body right
there and trapped that box with Jane is coming down here.
I got to meet James at the rim. If I
leave you early, that's a lot. And he's like, nah,
ways can get them, Like nah, Stack Wiggs can't get
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in front of Zubox that tight of rim if I
leave early. But what I can do is meet James
at the rim. And then there was another one that
he deemed me over.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And I saw the clip and I'm like, he like Dramond,
no box out, like no box out.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
My man is shooting the ball. That's not my man
getting the rebound. No box out, and so.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
On, And he's brought a couple like different things like
as you know, just about everybody in the NBA do
the same thing. Defensively Stack coming back from college, he
brought a couple of different things that he wanted to incorporate,
and I think it's really ultimately going to help our
defense a lot. So having someone like that to hold
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you accountable, like he's holding us accountable and make you
feel like y'all want to do this, you know what
I'm saying now?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
He was just necessarily for myself. He Sack is one
of the ones, bro.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
He you know, as a player, you know, as a VET,
as a coach, as an og. You talk about somebody
who love the game, Bro, It's like it'd be a
different level when they love that game, you know what
I mean, When they know the game and love the game.
That's you know, I'm just a fan now. Just all
my all my dogs and my air they coaching and
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ship and like they coming back and like they're giving
y'all something, you know what I mean, because that's what
I've been waiting for.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Like we need the Stacks, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
We need Rico Hines, We need Earl Watsons and and
JJ Reddicks and you know what I mean, we need
all these dudes around, you know, Willie Green's. We need
these dudes because they got they connected, you know what
I mean, they connected and they can challenge you.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Man. Shout out to stack Man.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, sir og stack Man. It's been it's been great
having him around. I always like, you know, he reminds
me of my uncle, Benny. I'm gonna bring my uncle here.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
They sounded like they act like they got a seriousness
to them. You know, he reminds me so much of
my uncle. So it's been great having stack around.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
So I think that's gonna ball well for us, and
it's definitely helping me. But in in other news, we're
gonna move around to move around the league. Okay, mm hm,
oh yeah, let me ask him that. Yeah, all right,
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m hm.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Now, you know we gotta talk who you keep saying
I gotta give myself out the corner. I know what
that means, right, Explain to our fans what do you mean?
Because you keep saying I gotta give myself. I know,
I gotta get myself out the corner.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
So coming into the season, like I said, we've kind
of been running a different style of offense, and the
spot of the offense that I'm in is just it's
in the corner. As players, when you're adjusting to a
new offense, initially you just go to your spot, right,
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Like you haven't figured out the loop holes in the
offense where you can find different space, how to find
that space, And so for these first three games, I'm
just kind of in the corner and I don't necessarily
know where those spots are yet. Like I'm still trying
to figure out where I can find my way out
of the corner and not mess up the space at right,
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Like you incorporate our offense. Everybody got their spots. That's cool,
but then as players, it's on us to then figure
out out like all right, like where can I find
my spots? You know what I'm saying within this offense
to where I'm not in steps way or I'm not
in uh Wiggs way, but yet I'm putting myself in
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a position to be successful as well. I've never really
been that successful out of the corner because I've never
really except for my rookie year, I've never really operated
out of the corner, and so new terrain just trying
to figure out that spacing and how I can find
my spots and where I can go to get out
the corner and not bunched the offense up and so, uh,
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that's kind of the challenge for me, and it's no,
it's definitely a challenge, but just trying.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
To figure it out.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
And I would say, like the way I translated it
was like, damn, I'm stuck in the corner like I'm
flat foot, you feel what I'm saying. So like getting
comfortable is really like, Okay, I know I'm gonna be here.
I gotta get my puppies moving. So it's a shot,
it's a move. It's supposed you know what I mean,
and then being able to but sometimes it's like because like, uh,
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it'd be a new offense.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
You like, damn, what do I do now? You know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
And basketball is way faster than that, So I think
you know, as you know, just talking to the fans,
as you get more comfortable in the offense, you know
what I mean, it's also just getting comfortable in the
corner and realizing that I don't have to stand here.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
I don't want to be. I can't be stuck here, like.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I gotta try some ship too, because early in the season,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
So for someone like you was just trying to just
like you.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
But what makes you, what makes you so great is
a lot of young guys and a lot.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Of players will try to force action.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
M like, hey, I'm not involved, like for sure, instead
of figuring out, you know what I mean, Great players
take chances and then they figure out their space and
where they comfortable, and then they start building towards that.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
You know what I mean. So I think, So that's
that's where I'm at. That's a great translation. I like it.
That's exactly where I'm at with it. But that's why
I was so and I know, like I got to
figure it out. But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
With a post with the posting crashing weeks side, like
like I see it, you know what I mean, The fadeaways,
the three choice shot, the pumping the pump fake, you know,
getting to like baseline, getting to the middle baby hook,
you know, like putting pressure on the defense from like
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I can see it, you know what I mean. But
a lot of times it's like with the new office,
everybody is learning how to figure each other out, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
And basketball is a very basketball is a very instant,
actual game, and right now I can't say that I'm
playing off instincts because you're trying to just figure out
kind of the nuances, and so got to find a
way to speed that up to where it becomes instinctial.
Because when I'm playing off my instincts, you know, the
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one thing I trust is I trust my instincts.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
I trust my brain. I know what's going on in
the basketball court. So just got to find a way
to make it more instinctial. And that's what I mean
by getting myself out of that corner. That's what I'm
talking about. Let's get up. But let's get up about that.
In other ways.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
We're gonna move around this league. Man, Let's move around
this league. Obviously, the good guys are no longer undefeated.
I would ask you who, who who do you got
as the best undefeated team left? You got the Thunder,
you got Celtic, you got the Lakers, you got the Calves.
Who is your best team?
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Or I wouldn't even say best, because I think the best.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Everybody's going to say Celtics Lakers, team that you're most
excited about in that bunch.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I said the Lakers, Uh, because I just think they
got they gotta, they gotta, they got and they are
one establishing an identity, which like we don't know what
the identity of the Lakers have been, you know what
I mean, since the bubble or whatnot, But the Lakers
never really had an identity outside of like it's Lebron's team.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Now they're back to being the Lakers. I like OKC.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Because they probably have the most talent of any team
in the league, you know what I mean. And those
young dudes are highly skilled basketball players and they just
gotta get mean, you know what. And I think by
them losing it in the playoffs last year, getting punched up,
like they got a little bit more confidence, you know,
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uh to go with it. And then the Celtics, you know,
defending channels Cleveland. You know, I like what they putting together.
But I don't think that Cleveland is I don't think
they wanted the best, you know, I think they would
be the weaker out of the four. But they played
some great basketball and they you know, they got a
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good system they got at you know what I mean,
they got a better system. But if Darius Garland and
Mitchell if they can if they can sink like they
was that one year when they were both all stars.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
They could be dangerous.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
They can I think uh. I think okay Se definitely
has some special talent. Shae Gibbs Alexander is one of
the best players in the league, and I don't think
there's anyone that you can find and debate that.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
I think he's going to put himself in that MVP.
Cateegory uh possibly could beete for possibly come home with it.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
And they got a lot of for Jalen Williams game
special check Holmgren special.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
The one thing I would say about them is there's
a certain readiness when you're ready to win. And I
don't care how old you are. I won my first
championship and my third year. Steph's six year plays fourth year.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
And.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
We used to joke.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Around, we will pour uh, we will pour water on
the guy's head and and you know, we will pour
water on the guys had every now and then and
after the game. And we would do little stuff like
that every now and then, not every time. But the
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one thing I see with the OKC team that is
a little alarming for me is like their post games,
like seven guys in the interview, like there's a certain
seriousness that it takes to win in this league.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
And.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
There's a certain fear you have to instill in a
team in teams in order to win, and I just
don't know if they're instill in that fearing teams with
all the bromance and stuff after the game, like Broll
we all the bros is to He's like, that's cool.
There's a time and a place for that. But after
every time somebody's in the interview, you got seven guys,
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eight guys. Then you got the same seven eight guys
with a picture with Josh Giddy right after they play,
Like again, I'm all for having fun, Like it's an
eighty two game season, you should have fun, but you
also have to understand what people people watching are looking
at you to be the team, and you have to
understand when your moment is and right now, I don't
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know if Okac understands, but their moment is now. At
their moment started last year. You go out, you had
that great regular season, Your clock starts. Now you're no
longer the team that's just building through the draft. You've arrived.
It is now time for you to take that next step.
And I'm not sure that they quite understand everything that
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that tells you know, they understand to play them them boys,
specially like they get out there.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
But it's another level too.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
They gotta get they gotta get two more levels to
get to the championship.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
So it's it's when I'm watching that and and you
know I'm in your conference and were about to play
in the playoffs. If if I if I think you soft,
I'm not there there is there's no fear. Yes, I'm
not a sious, I'm not. I'm like, oh bro, I'm
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going right at these dudes, you know what I mean.
And so you know all that like the fun and
games is fun, like it's doumb seeing them, but there's
also like they got to mature a little bit and
become more professional so the stars can be the stars,
you know what I mean, like at the start the interviews,
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be the stars, you know what I mean, And like
let's start getting this pecking order right, because when the
playoffs come, you know, and everybody buddy, buddy, and everybody
in panic, well that mean anybody shoot shoot the shot,
you know what I mean. That's how they got bottled
up last year exactly.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
And you got to think about it like even like
like you said the stars being stars Shay Gilgers Alexander.
Shae is on the verge of becoming like a superstar.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
I don't quite personally think he's a superstar yet, because
superstar to me is worldwide, everybody know you, and to me,
there's only a few superstars in the NBA. But Shaye
has superstar level talent. However, just because you have superstar
level talent doesn't always make you a super stars. For
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Shae Gilgers Alexander to take that next step, there are
certain things that superstar does. Like, for instance, like I
said the interview, Shaye, people want to hear what you
gotta say.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
They want to hear as you speak, They want to hear.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Your thoughts exactly, and they don't want to hear it
with seven guys in the background.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
They don't want to hear.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
That because they're not actually getting to experience who Shake
Gilgas Alexander is and that's what the world wants. And
by the way, like I said, that goes hand to
hand with taking that next step and becoming Shake Gilgers Alexander,
Not Shake Gilgs Alexander, who all the players look at
and be like yo, he nice, But shake Gilgs Alexander
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that all the players look at and be like, I'm
not looking forward to facing him today. Like everybody know
going into the game that Shae gonna get you thirty.
But now it's time to instill that fear and all
of that goes into that. And by the way, I
sha got that killer and got that dog in them.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
But he gotta get got no choice but to his team.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
What I'm saying, you gotta give all that to his team,
and he gotta like, hey, man, like all these games
and ship and playing around like that shit cool, but like, yo,
come on, guys, you know what I mean. Like I
remember my second year in the league. Uh, Sacramento. Uh,
Chris Webber, they came to Charlotte bro and they was
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tripping and Chris Weber was like, yo, it was the
second game of the season. He was like, Yo, we
did not come in this season to be bullshit. Were
trying to get a championship.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
Lock in.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
I was like, damn this game too. They talking about championship,
you know what I mean? They talking about they on
the so like, and that's the year you see Sacramento
take that league.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Because it's like, man, you.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Gotta you gotta put yourself from the beginning this season
in that moment, I don't want no If you don't
have no friends, you gotta you gotta be championship.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
You know, people don't understand this. Championships are not one
in April, May and June. That's actually the whole thing
with the Joe L ANDV thing is like championship, championship
is a championship is the processes like it is a
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process from day one and every day practice games, you're
chipping away at that and you chip away and ship away,
you have a setback, chip away, chip away, chip away,
set take two steps back, chip away, chip away. It's
an everyday process over the course of nine months.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
It's not just get to April healthy, get to May
healthy and we're good. Nah, you building every single day
and and that's what those guys gotta understand that there's
just gotta be a certain seriousness. And it was cool
when y'all were the new guys on the block last
year coming out winning fifty plus games. Now you're expected
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to do that. We expect y'all to win these regular seasons.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
We don't need seven guys in the press conference anymore.
We need shake gilgss Alexander and then lou Dort's gonna
have a great game and they ain't gonna want Shaye
that night. They gonna want to do because he clamped
somebody and he had twenty And we need.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Lou Dort in that interview.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
And that's the type of seriousness that this group I
think it's going to need in order to take that
next step, because what they must understand is you got
a year or two to take the next step. If
you don't, you start pulling pieces out and you start
plugging other guys in, and you pull this guy out,
and all of a sudden, Shay gonna be making three
hundred million dollars and Check gonna be making three hundred
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million dollars.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Can they also afford to pay Jayle Williams three hundred
million dollars? Then you start to run into those issues.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
So you gotta take advantage of it as soon as
your window open, because as fast as that window open
close success even faster.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, I mean, that's you crazy if you don't take
that moment right now, you know what I mean, because
you gotta be you also got to be aware and
have a great deal of respect. But who in front
of you, who next to you, and who coming behind you?
Speaker 3 (54:16):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (54:17):
You know what I mean, Because it's every year it's
like you don't know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (54:25):
But okay, so need to mature.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
If they mature, if they mature this year, and take
that leap all of them and get serious and get
serious about Hey man, we won this game. Let's get
to the next one. You know what I mean, They're
gonna They're gonna be all right.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Speaking like speaking of some of the teams, I saw.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
In an interview my boy Yiannis, now my son loves
Jannis bro and he was talking about how the Bucks
need to find their identity, like that's a bi word
and sports that's almost like a bad word in sports,
a good word or a bad word. They just failed
to one in three. And when it comes to the
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team finding an identity like who like who says the
precedents players are coaches.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
It's it starts with coaches.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
The coaches have to come in with a certain swagger,
with a certain confidence, with a certain seriousness to.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
A let guys know what their roles are.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
I think on any great team, coaches come in and
they define and it's not all right, Draymond, your role
is boom boom boom. Steph your role is boom boom boom.
Clay your role or not Clay, it's a national thing. VP,
your role is boom boom boom.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
It's like no.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
You come in and they start establishing this is what
we need. These are the roles to feel you're gonna
you know, we need you in this spot. And you
start to figure out your identity and what's spurs your roles.
You discuss what it is that what we want our
identity to be. Right, So we want our identity to
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be X. We want our identity to be a great
defensive team. We want our identity to be a fast
paced offensive team. You push the ball, get up and down.
That's what we want our identity to be. So from
day one, that's what we're trying to build. Right, And
so it starts with coaches then and most to your
best players. What are y'all doing on a day to
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day basis to make sure that you're bringing X so
that everyone.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Else knows they got to bring Y and Z because
if the.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Top players are bringing X, everybody else you have to
bring wires here. You're no good here and so then
it starts with players. And I'm gonna tell you this.
One thing that coaches on used to teach us, and
he would always say, is a saying he would always say,
he said, a player coach team, it's better.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
Than a coach coach team. And that was his motto.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
When we had a leader that was coaching up the
team and holding guys responsible on the court, that things
that Isoe didn't have to do. Because he had a
leader doing that, it makes his life easier, and make
your players and make your players relationship with him better,
and all of these things right, and the things that
he had to focus on changes. It allows him to
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expand his bandwidth because he don't have to focus on that.
And so as much as it is coaches have to establish,
it then falls on the players.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Who are you going to bree What are you bringing
to the table, what type of intensity are you coming
to the table with each and every game? And then
what is important is when even important to us?
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Because if it is important to us, then we'll do
the things that we've identified that we want our identity
to be. If winning is not the most important thing
to us, we usually become a team that is not
sure what the identity are, and you don't know from
night to night what team is going to show up.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
And those teams can't win an A And I've been.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
On a lot of those teams, right and for real,
I've been on a lot of those teams, and like
the thing is, man, it's like there's no trust or communication,
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you know what I mean. And so when I look
at Milwaukee, you don't trust the system, right, there is
no system that's putting you in a position to where
your game you feel like your game, you know what
I mean. Everybody stuck in the corner, you know what
I mean. And Nis and Dame Lillard are stuck in
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the corner, are stuck in their separate corner, and they
not communicating. Right then, now you gotta go to the
coach as the guys talk to the coach, you know. Now,
Now it's therapy, right and it ain't basketball. You ain't
figuring it out, You ain't figuring it out together. And
the team that don't communicate right, like like the Bucks
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need a little bit of whatout Okay, see guy, because
they're too.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
Serious, you know what I mean, They're almost too.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
It's a unique because Giannis has won a championship, right,
he is, like, that's his determination.
Speaker 3 (59:48):
And so if people are not up to that level.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Or can't get there, or a coach can't bring them
to that level, then that's where you have identity issues.
But I excuse me. I would always say, even the
Boston team with KG and Paul and Ray Allen, I
mean they got one, you know what I mean? And
I would say for a team like that with all
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that talent in that era, how they put that together, you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Know what I mean? They were beatable, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Like Doc the way he puts this team together, the
way he coaches his teams. His teams are extremely talented.
But the way the system is is you're playing against
the system. So you can beat you can beat them
playing Doc system. And so it's got to be a
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little bit of Doc gotta figure it out, Johannis and
Dame gotta figure it out. But everybody else on the
team gonna say, hey, man, we ballers, this is what
we like to do. And then you gotta go and
try and force that in the game. Right, can't be
sitting back at one and three saying, man, we don't
know what all right? You got to go established one
now and almost go Kama Kazi until you get in flow,
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because it sounds like they ain't been in flow from
last year. They have a good training camp, it sounded
like they ain't coming into the season, and it's still
like a major disconnection between your top three.
Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
People, your coach, and your two superstars.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
So I asked you this question because I actually came
across this earlier today and I haven't thought nothing of
it until we just started talking about the bucks. I
came across a clip earlier today and Gil was talking
about Dame and he pretty much said he doesn't think
Dame has figured out how to pick and choose his
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spots when he should be looking to score gils. And
he compared it to himself in Washington when he had
twin Walker.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
And or no twin James. Larry Hughes.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yes, yeah, way absolutely, And so he compared it to
himself and he said, listen, I would just pass to
those guys to start the gain. Let them drive Karan
get into the cup getting fouled.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Why am I just drawing a black Larry Hughes and yeah,
Antoine Jamison getting to the hole getting fouled, And I
let them get the files up.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Now once they start getting the team to like three
and four files, I know you have to guard me differently,
is what he said. He said, I know you have
to guard me differently because we're in the bonus and
so now I can really attack you. Now I can
take advantage of my skill and and so Gil made
the comparison. He was like, he don't think Dame is
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letting Yannis go go go, and then pick and choosing
his spots. He said, he think Dames come out, take
three or four tough shots and then if you miss him, yeah,
and then it's kind of tough from there. What are
your thoughts on that? I can't necessarily speak to that.
I'm not a point guard or I was never just
scoring guard.
Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
What what are you? What are your thoughts? I totally agree.
I think.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Dave is super talent, He's super elite, and for the
majority of his career he had to come out and
damn near put up forty for them to have a
chance to win. Right when he played with LaMarcus Aldiers,
give it to LaMarcus Aldiers, let him anchor.
Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I think he got to start going back to.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
That mentality, like, okay, I got Yannis, Let me low,
Yannis up.
Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Let me get.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
These dudes going right, and not that you're not it's
not yourself, but it's not your points, you know what
I mean? Like you starting to game him three four, five,
three pointers in the first quarter, Like that's not going
to help the Bucks win, you know what I'm saying.
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Like if it was Portland, Oh yeah, he about to
go off. Everybody is gonna rise to that level because
he's elevated and Milwaukee Bucks Land, that's like keeping you
in the game the way they play, you know what
I mean. So he gotta learn how to finesse the
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situation so it opens up for him, right, and so
be dame time. Right, script, like write a script for yourself, right,
go home, write a script for yourself every game. Write
a script. This is where y'an is gonna give me. Boom,
this is what port is gonna give me. This is
what I'm getting from low pays. This is what I
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need in this game. And then four minutes six, we
have six. It's dame time, and so you you start
making your points matter based Oh damn, we down six.
Let me go get to the line. Boom, we have six.
Let me take let me take two of these just
to see if I can put some distance, right, And
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so I think it's more so Dame trying to Once again,
it's the system, Dame trying to figure out how to
do Dame time and Yannis trying to figure out how
to do Yanni's time.
Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
And so if you remember, with.
Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
The Clippers, you had Chris Paul and Blake Griffin and
they played two different styles.
Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
And that's why the Clippers can never beat you guys,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
They could be They beat San Antonio because Blake played well,
Chris Paul played well, but together, you know what I mean,
there wasn't like they didn't dominate the game. They actually
like allowed you to stay in the game because one
player was balling the other player was balling. But if
they were ever balling in sync, they were gonna blow
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your ass out out, you know what I mean. And
I think that's where Milwaukee is kind of handicapped because
there's no there's no connective tissue.
Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
For like Yin and Yang. There's no Yin and Yang.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Yeah, No, for sure, well number one, under no circumstance
with the Clippers ever going to blow. It's how But
I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Number two, when I when I played for an accident, I
play against you before he was Oh, the w the.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Clippers though, like twenty two in the third quarter came
back to Golden State.
Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
I was watched though, So check this though, Check this.
So if you say dang Yannis is the one that
has won the championship, Dame is still kind of figuring
out his way there. At what point does the onus
fault on you Yiannis.
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
To maybe get Dame because Dame could also make life
easier on him.
Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
So where is it? Or is it just all this system? Bro?
You feel what I'm saying, because if you look at
Giannis in this system, he don't play like Yiannis you did?
You know what I'm saying, Like he not pushing.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
It, he not taking it, you know, taking it on
the wing and saying hold on, like ask for forgiveness later. Right,
So he he's kind of lost a little bit of
who he is and how he could help Dang right
or like it's almost like they're trying to help each
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other so much that they're overworking.
Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Without working together, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
And then when you go into the system like identity
is a system thing, because if Jannie is saying, we
got an idea problem, that means somebody don't know who
the man around here, and then somebody don't know who
the man when the man is supposed to be around here,
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you know what I mean, And so everybody's uncomfortable, you
know what I'm saying. And so that system the way
they play. There are only two playmakers on that team,
j Honest and Dame Lillard. And Dame Lillard is a
scoring playmaker. Yannis is a scoring playmaker, a defensive playmaker.
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Neither one of those guys are assist guys. They don't
set They're not They wasn't molded to be great to
set people up. Their greatness is in their points, you
know what I mean, and their pressure that they put
on defense from an offensive standpoint, Yannis on both ends
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of the floor. You feel what I'm saying, Like Dame
is not gonna be jew Holiday for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Milwaukee Bucks gotta gonna find somebody that can do that,
so Dame can be a better version of whoever was
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the two guard when they want it, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
For sure, so does Chris Middleton. Whenever he get back
from injury, does he change that or do you still
have the same No it well.
Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
One, I wanted to see Chris healthy because you know
he's but he's another score, right, And so if you're
asking Chris Middleton to come back and be the Chris
Middleton he was during the finals, then you a fool,
you know what I mean, because he was bringing the.
Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Ball up, he was playmaking.
Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
They need somebody that can break down the defense, or
it needs somebody that can look for people, you know
what I mean, And you know they need they need
Ben Simmons.
Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
I was just about to say, you think so you
think is the answer?
Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Hell yeah, hell yeah. Okay, all right, but I don't
think the system is going to work.
Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
I think you know they have something good with Agent
Griffin whatever. Like Bro, you know how the drama go.
When it's drama, that's all drama and soap opera. Milwaukee
has found themselves in the basketball soap opera of oh
you used to be good. Now you're about to go
through some ship. Now you gotta figure it out. Now
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you're gonna unravel it, and you don't want to piss
off your honest, because he can piece it back together.
Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
So might I remind you that Doc Rivers was the
coach of the Ben Simmons fall out and physic I know,
the squad necessarily going to be the guy.
Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Doc Rivers they did and build special bro.
Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Because he will put you in a system that only
he knows how to coach it.
Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
So so you So that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
The problem is it's not Dame, it's it's the system.
Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
And the way you built the team.
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
And so you built the team around two guys that
are incredible basketball players, right, but you have nobody in
the middle that's bringing them to a point of their
ultimate capacity.
Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
If Dame is going, Giannis ain't going.
Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
If Giannis is going, Dame ain't going, Why the fuck
aren't they both going at the same time?
Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
They're deadly in the pick and roll together.
Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Of course, who's on the opposite side, Yeah, right, what's
happening on the opposite side?
Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Who else is chiming in?
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Who else is making a play for a Dame or
or a play for Giannis? So when Janni's make a
play for Dame and he wide open, it's like, damn,
I'm wide open. I ain't never been wide open and
my entire Dame Lillard has never been wide open in
his entire career unless he made himself wide open. Feel
what I'm saying. So like it's new to him too.
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But they gotta get that connective tissue. And I think
you gotta change the system, right, y'all gotta fast break,
y'all gotta get back to playing defense, right, But you
gotta let you gotta let Damon Giannis figure the ship
out and get out the way sometimes as a coach,
because you still don't get wins based on their.
Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Talent facts facts. I respect it all right, what so.
Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Sorry, Sorry, Doc, I ain't no real I'm just you
know what I'm looking at coaching. I'm like, yo, a
Doc Rivers team is a bit a beatable team. I
don't know how much talent they got because they only
playing patterns.
Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Pattern Okay, I respect it. So, speaking of Ben Simmons,
did you see the fan yesterday when Ben Simmons is
walking past, tell him he's trash to his face. That
was crazy, bro in Orlando.
Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
So in Orlando, you walk to the locker room and
they had this guard rail up and you're walking right
next to a bunch of fans, which number one is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
They allow fans to line up right there when you're
going in the locker room, when you're coming out, people
standing there screaming, trying to get all the grass.
Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
And NBA locker room is the most non private place.
Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
In the building.
Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Like there's no privacy. You're getting dressed, there's people in
the locker room. You're doing media like you're you're getting
prepped before the game. There's people in the locker room.
As soon as the coaches break the huddle after the game,
there's people.
Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
In the locker room. It has to be the most insane,
nonsanity or however you want to frame it, place in
an NBA locker room. I mean in the NBA arena,
it's just like open season. Like you go and you
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do what you want.
Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
There's a million people in Orlando next to like, but
then if we say something back.
Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
We get in trouble. We get fun.
Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
But this kid who's standing out with his dad is
going to say say, in my face, I'm trash.
Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
He don't know what it takes to make it to
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
You really want to beat his data for letting him
talk like that control your kid.
Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
But yeah, it's just like, oh, respect the game.
Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Fans can like they pretty much say what they want
to you, and you just have to take it. And
just the empowerment of fans to say what they want
to say to us as if we're not human beings.
Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Now, we just got to hit them back on track,
like we just got to like bring your mama back,
you know what I mean, like your mama, your daddy,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
What I mean? Yo, what shut.
Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I have one of those little laughing uh those little things.
Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Wow, shut up. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
I thought that was wild, but I thought, you know,
Shorter came back to this defense being kind of said,
why you ain't saying in my face?
Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
But you know, I just think that's always been an
ongoing issue. They still ain't figured it out. Yeah, probably
never going to figure it out. It's just something that
we have to do.
Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
That's and it is what it is. It is.
Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Bro Donald's before we get out of here, though, Bro Donald,
Oh go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
I played with the Clippers. Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
We won a game, and he came in there with
like no lie, like eight old ass ladies. They have
to be like late fifties sixties. I mean they looked
like they was seventy eighty. And he came in when
I athorized, Bro, bullshit you not. And coaches just finished
and he said, hey, lady, you know meet the guys.
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And I'm sitting right at the door. And he was like, man,
you can sit in here. You can sit right here
and talk to him. Wait till he take his towel off.
Whoa chill?
Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
And the old lady was just sitting here, ask me
how kind of question?
Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Bro, I'm sitting there with my toil like, Bro, I'm
not about to I'm about to wake this old lady.
Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Yuh, I'm not about to get up. Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
It was hey, Bro, it was dial biller. She was
waiting for you to take the locker room. It was crazy, Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
He was like wait. He was like, wait for that's nuts.
Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
I tell you what though, I will tell you what
all that's gonna take. It's for somebody to get sued.
In this climate. You got so many people in the
locker room. People can say anything. Guess what you're Even
if you ain't guilty, you're guilty by public perception. And
we live in a world where you're guilty until proven innocent,
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and once you're proven innocent, nobody's going.
Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
To talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
But before you're proven innocent, you're going to get talked
about like a dog, like you're guilty. And all that's
gonna take is for someone to sue and say X,
Y and Z. But it's just unfair to players that
you have to be putting.
Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
You can't say.
Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Nothing in the locker room no more, right, you feel
like even if he knows, even if you were even
if it was a team inside joke after the game
and you yelled something right, and people can take anything
now out of context, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
It's just, man, this shit is crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Like they got to be some type of like privacy
for like the players and the team to have a
moment before people rushing in, even for some players like
say you did something wrong or say something happened in
the game, Like get that, dude, the moment, you know
what I mean, and maybe talk to the team, talk,
you know, talk to the players and be like, hey, bro,
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don't do that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Don't crash out.
Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
But the media be trying to now, they trying to,
They be trying to make you crash out on them.
Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Nah, for sure, for sure, it's a it's a media
or maybe. But right after the coach to media come
right in. So you got about five.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Minutes, maybe exactly three to five minutes and the head
of the PR PR guy gonna come in, like all right,
we open the media and they and they're in the
locker room literally three to five minutes after the coach
walk out, no time, and that's what guys are left
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dealing with. It's like, so, by the way, three to
five minutes, if it was a rough ending to the game,
you ain't even had time to like take a deep breath. Coach,
just talk right, you may say something to the guy.
They see you before, look at your phone.
Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Before you know it, it's over people in your face,
right in your face. And it's something that guys have
complained about for years.
Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
It's something that went away during COVID, and you thought
it was one of those things like marijuana that went
away during COVID.
Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
They'm testing for marijuana.
Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
They it would be one of those things, now that's
what I'm saying, But they stopped testing for that during COVID.
They also stopped letting media members in for pretty much
a year and a half where you didn't have.
Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
To the lock conference.
Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Yeah, yes, And everybody was like, yo, this is great
and thought like that would be the end of it,
and then it came back and I just don't understand
we live in today.
Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
I don't talk to media before the game. I don't
talk to him before the game. You got whispers. You
know what I had dropper before?
Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Yeah, we had an eavesdropper before that when Kadi was
on our team where we were having a conversation in
the locker room.
Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
It was in Utah and the guy tweeted like a
conversation we was having and I was just like, yo,
like you can't like we're not talking to you, having
a conversation amongst each other and you eavesdrop on our
conversation and then go tweet it. But you know, you
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always talk about like the protection of the players, and
there is none. It's afraid of players and it's crazy
you don't you And yet nothing gets accomplished by media
being in the locker room before the game.
Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Guess what.
Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
The media come in the locker room after the game.
And then Raymond Rivers saying all right, I'm taking Draymond
up to the media room. What's the point, Like, help
me nand that why they come in here. But I
was just sitting in my locker. Help me understand that.
And so I don't know, man, It's one of those
ridiculous things that you would have been. I'm not even
(01:21:51):
going to say need to go away, because you would
have thought, let's keep it.
Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Maybe if we say, hey, everybody, keep it till get
rid of it, because it should have been gone on.
I think should get rid of it because it creates
more of a mistake.
Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
You're not getting dudes with cameras with towels on, they
shirt off, you like, get them at the podium dressed up.
Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
It just creates more of a.
Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Vibe for what the league is trying to do with
fashion and personality and shit like that, instead of the
mistake of you know, somebody with a camera and a
locker and like, I ain't even I'm getting dressed, somebody
getting an interview. I'm in the back, you know what
I mean. And so like it's just cut out all
the confusion.
Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
It's really uncomfortable. It's really uncomfortable in the locker room.
You have men, you have women, and I'm trying to
get in the shower. It is a very very very
uncomfortable and is supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
It's a very uncomfortable space walking around in the tower
with a bunch of people that just come in with you.
You know what they're in there for. It's a real Yeah,
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I can do that.
Speaker 9 (01:23:21):
Yeah, okay, purchase okay.
Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Man man were speaking in you know, locker room and
backing in the locker room. Uh right now, my boys,
the Dodgers up three to zero.
Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
In New York.
Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
The media of us be in the Yankee locker room.
Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
I'm a Yankee fan. Sorry, I'm a Yankee fan.
Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
And however, you know, my guy, Peter Goober is the
owner of the Dodgers, So I'm not up.
Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
I'm not upset. I want to be a Yankee magic
and not because I've been a Yankee fan.
Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Since I wast How can I am upset?
Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
I want to win. I want to win. But you know,
I'm happy for Peter. I'm happy for Peter.
Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
But the series isn't over yet. We're not going to
do what we're doing. Look at you, bro.
Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
I'm happy for Peter. I didn't say I was happy
for the Dodgers. Said, he don't want you to be
happy for us.
Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
It does not you are a New York Yankee fan,
it does not feel good when we win that you
guys are like, oh you guys beat us. Were like, no,
we want you to hate us. That is the problem
with the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Yeah, got too, we got we got twenty eight World
Series front know what more you want a nice guy?
You have twenty eight y'all just made y'all twenty third appearance.
Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
We got twenty eight offs.
Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Okay, we on the way, on the way though, we're
on the way. Uh tiny ten years? Hello, hello, those
contracts are bad. After three years? No, no, no, his
whole contract is for three years. His whole contract after
three years. Yeah, after three years, y'all go.
Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Three million a year the wagon. It's a shame they
let your shake like that. Hey, bro, that's smart, that's
smart business. Bro. You would do you know what you
would do it?
Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Y'all about to Yeah, it went wrong for in Game one, man,
we should we took Game one.
Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
It changed as a series. We let it get away.
What happened and now y'all feeling good? Oh you know what.
Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Happened in game drama? Because you probably didn't believe. You
weren't believing that at that point, so you weren't watching.
And then you hop on the band wagon. You probably
Angels fan anyway, and now you want to act like
you're a Dodger angel from.
Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Your angel a Yankee fan from Michigan. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Absolute, that, okay, absolutely that. You know you know, you
know who My favorite Dodger is. Fernando Venezuela. Come on,
you know who my favorite Yankee is outside of the Captain.
Outside of the Captain and Malavera. My favorite Yankee growing
(01:26:43):
up was Darryl Strawberry and Chuck.
Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Daryl Strawberry from Crinshaw High l A. He wanted to
be a I got to do with me, wanted to
be inta Dodger. We birth shout out to Kris Shawha.
But he went over there to win championship. The Dodgers
wasn't winning those chi ships.
Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Then he went over there. We birthed Daryl st championship.
He was off to Krenshaw High. But he went to
he went to He went over there.
Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
The essence of the day he went over there. He
went over there. He went over there.
Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Oh my god, hey, bro, I'm in air one I
did five laps around the air one.
Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
And now he wanted to come alive. He has zero
home runs and won RBI at the time, and he
wanted to look up man Ster Slam.
Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
You heard it here first. The Yankees coming back because
guys who don't win championships get excited before the series
is over. And now the Yankees coming back and we're
about to take this world series.
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Speaker 2 (01:26):
You see our boy Joe Ellenbiid has yet to play
a game.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, there's been a lot of conversation about him sitting
out back to backs. But I will say players are
starting to think about their future after basketball is.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Over as well.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Word but I know Loads word, but I know loan
management for him has to be something the whole franchise
got to be thinking about at this point. It got
me thinking about how long seasons is about to be
for you as well. This is about to be a
long season for you, dog.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So I went.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Shopping yesterday on Amazon and I got some looks for you,
some different.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Word, but I know Load's management for him has to
be something the whole franchises, you know, thinking about, they
worried about. And then it got me thinking, man, you
know you ain't what your thirteenth year. You know, I
gotta be thinking about you, brother. So I went shopping
yesterday on Amazon and I got to look for you
(02:33):
with some different options, and I got a box and
a gift for you, and I ordered something from you
for Amazon for this season.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
There it is, it's already open. Hey, a massage gun.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
This is clutch for anybody who travels a lot, especially
for me when playing role games load managements.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I looked at different options and feel like I ordered
the right gift for you.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Got it all right? How fucked up on that? All right? Word? Oh? Okay,
okay with that? Weren't But it's already open. Oh wait,
oh okay, okay, starting to work.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But I know load manage for him for uh word?
But I know load management for him has to be
something the whole franchise has been thinking about. And it
has me thinking about you, Drey. It got me thinking,
you know, this is a long season and for you.
(03:47):
I had to go shopping yesterday on Amazon. I looked
at different options and I feel like I ordered the
right thing for you, brother, You have the right gift
for me.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There it is already. Oh hey, a massage gun.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
This is clutch for anyone who travels a lot, and
especially for me when playing road games. However, load management
really becomes a factor in back to backs games across
the country.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
See I'm looking out for my dog. I appreciate it. Man.
You know them back to them back to backs. They
are tough. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I understand where older players are coming from when they
say when they say, yo, you need to play back
to the backs.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
There's no such thing as low management. We have X
amount of games.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But then you see, like some of the older players
and their bodies are broken down later in life. And
I think with all of the science that we have today,
everyone takes things a bit more seriously and we use
the science whereas they didn't have that back in the day.
So you know, it's a couple of things rearing his
ugly head. But yet I think there's valid points for
(05:03):
both sides. I agree, man.
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Now you know, they got all these great products, and
so shout out to Amazon. I picked the right gift
(05:26):
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long chevity, much needed longevity.
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Speaker 3 (06:39):
What's up? Everyone? Welcome back to The Draymond Green Show.
B Day. What to do? What you're doing with my brother?
What's up a big dog? How you feeling? I feel great, brother? Uh,
disappointed and lost last week, but we'll get into that.
If I got something over the weekend, I see you, tweeted.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Just ran into at JJ Reddick at the car wash.
He had the livetop watching film players coach Lakers in
great hands hashtag dedication.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Talk to me about this, like, like, what are you
thinking when you run to the station.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know, bro, it's a casual Saturday. You know you're
doing parents stuff. You that's your day off. You know
what I mean? You probably coming off of back to back.
You know, we all in the same, you know, J
we all in the same neighborhood. Our kids play at
the park, and so I was going to get my
car washed, and me and my kids went and got
(07:37):
some lunch. I come back from the car wash, I
see JJ Redd and he run up on me.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
What's up, BD, what's up? Jj? I look over there.
I'm like, damn, bro, you over here. You getting it in? Uh?
You're working. He's like, man, I ain't playing around. And
we sat there.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
We had a conversation about just him the team, and
I was telling him, like, yo, bro, your personality on
this team gives him real leadership. And he was just
talking about like you know, looking at breaking down film,
but talking about the game, and it's he's one of
those dudes you can talk basketball all day, you know
(08:13):
what I mean. And you know, I got excited because
it's you know, it's like talking to one of your
peers as a coach, and you're like, man, I want
you to win so bad because you know what the
fuck you're talking about, you know what I mean? And
and and you gonna get these dudes to play like
he talking about all other players, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
He talking about you know, that's that's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He talking about the You know, absolutely bron gonna do
what he's do. You know that a D a D now,
We all know how special a D is. But a
D right now is playing at the level that everyone
has kind of hoped and thought that he would play
at for many years.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
The way he's dominating right now is unlike an ad
We Tarver sitting in my opinion, and I think that
that does have You know that that does have a
lot to do with coaching.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I think coaching has you know, one of the biggest
roles for a coach is you're one of two things.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You're even either a confidence giver or you're a confidence taker.
And what it's looking like with not only a D,
but with.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Austin Reeves, Austin Reeves d D Low hasn't played this great,
But what it's looking like with those other guys is
Jackson Hayes.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
They have confidence and they have a belief in themselves.
And man, when you got that type of confidence and
you're getting that from the coast, it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Goes a long way, especially in the league right because
everybody can play and a lot of it is like
I don't think fans or people really understand it's all
and tangibles, right am I playing do I got confidence
on working out? Like people when people say basketball is
a mental game, it's all the mental components of the
(10:11):
things you have to have, like some mental fortitude, you
know what I mean, Like I'm really good, I'm sitting
on the bench, you know what I mean, I'm losing
my like. So having a coach believe in you and
letting you go out and hoop the way you know
how to hoop, bro, that that turns you into a
whole different species, you know what I mean. And I
(10:31):
think I'm we're seeing that, you know from the Lakers.
I think you know when y'all had to run you
you knew that, Like you already knew who you was
coming to the game, you know what I mean. And
you can do anything. You can make adjustments on the fly.
So that type of confidence, right allows you to be
(10:51):
a real, real basketball player, you feel, and not a
system player.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
That's a fact, said, I agree. So they looking good.
We'll see you know how it continues as we move forward,
because one thing I do think is if they're going
to continue to play out a high level, they are
going to need a better dal for sure, Like d
low or his shot making ability, his scoring ability. They're
going to need him to play at a high level.
(11:20):
And some of his interviews I saw early was kind
of like a little I turn it, I catch you.
You know. It was like you couldn't kind of tell
whether he was.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Over it or pull them. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So which way they turned him I think will be
ultimately will be important as teams get into the season.
You know, everybody start to get to, you know, a
position of where they know what's going on, conditioning levels,
all the stuff, and everybody's clicking. As you get into
the season, you're going to need a better d LO.
(11:55):
So I think that's something to watch for. But I
think they are doing well. But I got one for you.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I got another one for you. So a lot a
lot of people talking about this one from your your era,
although I did play against D two number one. First,
I want to say congratulations to.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Day, Congratulations to Flash my dog.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That's my dog.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yes, sir, I think like to get a statue man
like that, to get your jersey retired is one thing
like That's that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It's great to get a statue like another level, Bro
you're not going to.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's a totally now immortalized you know, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Number one. Like I said, congrats to him, but we must.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
What was your first thoughts when you saw the statue?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
People?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You know, people are making a lot of body d
Wade said, who is that? Guy?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Man? Your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Man?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Man?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Man?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
All right?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
First of all, First of all, I want to echo
let you say.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Flash Hall of Famer Olympian, you know what I mean,
NBA champ uh.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You know, to have have.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Your jersey retired to be immortalized in the statue, you know, incredible,
you know what I mean? Probably emotional day all the
people out there and shout out to the Miami Heat
organization because they just always.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know, do it right.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Until until they picked a person to design the statue.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I got some jokes because I felt she was gonna
a me this. I said, why did they give d
Way a team move statue? When he said.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, when he said who is it? I was like, man,
who is that?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You know?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Hey? Bro? Who is that? Who is that? Hey?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I would like to make an announcement right now to
anybody retiring or anybody picking another statue, please consult with
Baron Davis Enterprises on how how to approve and design
a statue. Come on, dude, I mean, come on, dog,
we back check this out.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
They did.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Look how they did Iverson in Philly, and now look
how they do it like this big huh.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I couldn't believe a statue they had.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
They gave a an Oscar an Oscar trophy.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Come on, dude, that's the answer, yo.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So check this out. Check this out. I saw pictures
of d Wade viewing the statue face it's actually I
think it was on Rachel Nichols page if d Wade
viewing the statue, and I must say, the mock up
(15:30):
of his face looks absolutely nothing like the statue turned out.
So everybody's like, oh, d Wade saw at first, like
he know, he saw, he approved it, But the mock
up of his face before the turnout, it looked like
d Wade. Afterwards it looked like Tim Thomas.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I don't quite.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Understand how it ended up that way. But my thing
is like, don't they show the statue to maybe someone
like pat Riley, like when it's complete, before they just
unveiled and everybody like, oh, yo, who is that guy?
(16:17):
I just and then and then another one is the
then the the guy who made the statue comes out
today with a statement saying it is not for all
humans to understand, it's not for all human activity or
something of that nature.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And I'm just like, yo, you can't come out.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And then that hey, you know what, it was one
person that came out and agree with your statute.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Facebook, Come on, you got this is what I think.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I think they were like, yo, d Way, we need
you to pose for this statue. And you know how
busy is He's like, man, I ain't got all all
day and this ship was taken all day. So he
called his cousin and say, hey, man, so you think
it could be his cousin. He was like, man, I'm
(17:11):
tired of this ship. He doesn't stand in And the
artist didn't know if it was d Wade or the
cousin Dshaun Wade, damn man, shout.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Out to this way man. We love you, bro, We
love you bro. It's just no butler. I actually saw
the Wade last week. Man.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
It's always a pleasure just to see d Wade, to
be in his presages. But you got can they like,
we gotta do something we got.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
To do something.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
We gotta do something because like think about like twenty
years from now, you know what I mean, Like he
gonna be like, yo, like here's my statue, you know
what I mean, And your grandkid's gonna be like, hey, man,
knock it off.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
He looked twenty years older in the statue right now. Man, hey, hey,
hire me.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
To find the artists to create art or statues to
represent these legends.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Lauren Hawsey, I'm not this artists. He'd be great at it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm not dissing the artists or nothing, because I understand
art I understand artists.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Tree, but.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
When you do sculptures of people, you know what I mean,
you're gonna face the most backlash because we know what
d Wade look like, you know what I mean, And
so we want.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
To see we want to see a d Way statue,
you know what I mean? Yeah, all right, that's the fact.
I agree.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I hope they can like twist the head off to
like change it out or something, because our paint like
a hologram on the face, you know what I mean.
Like it's like maybe something, use some AI, a three
D printer something. We got too many things today. This
must be correct. This must be correct.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Uh, he gonna be buy my statue Duck and his
ship like that.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Ain't me. I ain't gonna get in a statue. So
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I'm gonna make my own ship put outside my granny house.
But now with that artist right in the hood. Now
with that grandiated, that's like the homie. That's like the hommie. Like, hey, bro,
let me make a statue.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
For you in the front of grannyhouse.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
D Wade, these are jokes, man, Well you all, d Wade,
that's one boy man.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The way be on my next season. The WTF bearon Davis?
So he already know I love you, bro. Yes, sir,
congratulations out. That's a that's amazing way you coning.
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Speaker 2 (21:30):
Man, it looked like our boys Steph will be reevaluated.
On Friday, he had an ankle injury against the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Now with him missing the next two games.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I think you know it helps, But how do you
feel that changes your game.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
With Steph not being there you know early on this season? Uh,
gotta be more aggressive for sure. I think you know,
you gotta find I mean number one, it was very
uplifting and refreshing to see him walking today, absolutely, because
he's walking pretty good. Uh So I thought that was
(22:13):
that was good to see. Gives you a little more
hope than what what you initially had when I saw
him leader floor. Uh So that was good.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I think for me, Uh, obviously have to be more aggressive,
try to find different spots to score. Got to get
up out that corner, and then I'll probably handle the
ball more, you know, be being more of a decision
making and more of a decision making role. But it's
(22:47):
interesting because you know, I don't really know what that
intels today because we're kind of running an entirely different offense.
You know, so in a normal world where you know
the offense that we've been running for the last ten years,
llion years, I know exactly what that looks like.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But we're kind of running a different offense this year,
and so it's hard for me to say currently what
that'll look like for you. But I imagine that. You know,
shots will come in different areas because the gravity that
Steph pulls it won't be there, so you'll probably find
(23:26):
shots in different areas than normal. So just got to
be aggressive and willing to take those shots because with
all the stuff on the floor, the first open shot
you get is probably going to be the best shot
that you're going to get throughout that possession, as opposed
to you get an open shot with Steph on the floor,
you still something else still going to open up once
(23:47):
he started moving, because he just draws so much attention.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I've been watching the way y'all play too, and I
think you can take more opportunities to just get more points,
you know what I mean. It's like especially like posting up,
you know what I'm saying, So like the way I
was looking at it is like, man, this should help you.
It should help the young guys right and start figuring out,
(24:14):
like oh shit, let me start getting back in the
post because ain't nobody posting up, you know what I mean?
And like shit, you got post work, you know what
I mean? You got you got post work. So it's
like it could be and then also like now step out.
Now you back to secondary push pace, push, you know
what I mean, moving the ball, cutting like all that
(24:37):
little murkiness you know, with the intelligence. Okay, I'm gonna
get to the free throw line. Okay, we can slow
the game down. Like I think with youall new offense
and with these young guys, like it's gonna be like it.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
It should open something up.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
So when stuff come back, when other people like the gravity,
like you say, the gravity he pulled, it's almost like damn,
like pick your poison, you know what I mean, Pick
your poison. So I like that, man. And there was
a moment I think, so there was a moment in
(25:15):
the Clippers game when Stephi you collided. You came up
hoppling after that. Has something like that ever happened to
you in the thirteen years?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Listen? Man, what'd you say?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, it's a question, Oh my god, my dog?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
What what are you and Steph doing that? There?
Speaker 8 (25:51):
I relaxed, relaxed, man, Yo, that was shure hurts I
give him he bro I in thirteen years? Have you
have you witness?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Bro? He came up to me after like, yo, you
are I.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Kind of read it and tell you I'm like, you
think you're ready to me, and that's how you trying
to hop out the way.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Edit that out. I saw you trying to hop out
the way, but I kind of read it to you. You good.
Oh that was so funny. Yeah, I'm all right. I
hurt bro.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I still feel the residual effect of that. By the way,
I don't go away just right away. That was crazy. No,
I haven't ever had anything like that.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Have it for me? Oh oh man, oh man, listen,
let's move on. That was crazy. Ah man, that was
you know what I'm not I'm not going to discuss this. Listen, man,
We're moving on. We got back to back, coming up
(27:15):
against the Pelicans.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Obviously, everything becomes stuff tougher with stuff out, but not
only is Steph out.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You got wigs out. You got damn them ol now.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And so you know, it's crazy because we're going to
last night, and it's just crazy. The NBA, Man, it
changes everything, as you know, man, it changes so fast.
And so you're going into last yesterday and just won
two games by seventy seven points.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Started season combined.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Feeling good looking at the home stretch where you like,
all right, we got the Clippers coming in.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Then we got the Pelicans coming in twice.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You know you're looking at that, You're like, yo, we
could possibly start four one, five and oh, which is
a great start.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You let one get away yesterday that you know they
just came up. They punched us in the mouth. Yeah,
they punched us in the mouth. Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
They defend the great. They were really good offensively. They
put a lot of pressure on the rim getting downhill.
You know, Derrick Jones Junior hit three threes like they
had guys making shots. They played well, and all of
a sudden, you lose that one. But not only do
you lose that one again, just how quick stuff shame
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you got those three guys out now and with a
tough back to back coming up, So not only are
you losing some of the depth which we spoke about,
but you're going into a back of back to back
and losing that depth, and so it just makes things
a lot tougher and just shows you how fast stuff
can change in this league all of a sudden, Like
I said, you're looking like, yo, we could possibly start
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four one, oh, and then you face with these injuries, man,
and it's just crazy just looking at.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
You when you're looking at the schedule.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I remember I used to look at the schedule month
to month and say, damn, he's gonna be the tough ones.
These are the ones we have to get, you know
what I mean? And then this is a rubber game,
you know what I mean? Yeah, And so when you
got injuries and you know, you get a hard fuck
game like the Clippers, Like, damn, you know we was rolling,
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We got caught up. Now you got Zion coming in,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, for sure, and we got to slow him down,
like Zion. Zion is a very tough, tough cover man
because he Zion is like Zion is like a linebacker
who's like you can't run the ball against him, or
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like a running back who's just constantly putting pressure on
on your front seven. He always puts pressure on the rim,
like at all times, he's putting pressure on the rim,
which which reminds me a lot of Blake Griffith when
I was playing Blake, when I was playing Blake during
you know them years when he was with the Clippers,
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always putting pressure on the rim. Always a lot of
four strong as hell and like you can do what
you want.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
They're putting their head down to get to the rim.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And you know, it's just a matter of you like
trying at the file, trying to make him make tough shots,
and then trying to keep a body in front of him,
understanding your distance to the rim, because ultimately you got
to know once that once both of those guys are
inside the free throws at that point, DELI just jump
and once they jump.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
There's nothing you can do, like they're gonna figure it
out in the air because they got that type of bounce.
And so slowing down Zion is tough, uh, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And you know, one of the ways that you try
to slow Zion down is not always defensively, it's in
putting him in action on the defensive end because you
don't want him getting the rest on that end. And
with Steph out again, that's another one of those things
that makes it tougher to kind of bring him into
the action and also try to wear him down on
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the other end as well. So you know, it creates
it creates a lot of issues, but nonetheless it starts
with doing the job on Zion, which will have to
try to slow him down in order to try to
stagnate their offense.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I agree he's and like I think with him and Blake,
you know, the difference is he brings the ball up.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The court, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
You know, I like how to you. I wish like
Vinnie del Nigger would have used Blake like my boy
Willie Green is using Zion as like a playmaker, initiate
the offense, move him around.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
But I do think you know, there's a gift and
a curse with.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That, right because Zion, for how he's built, he's downhill downhill, downhill, downhill.
And you know, I always say this about bigger guys.
It's like when you play a guard game and you
move like a guard, you're susceptible, right, and prone to
more injuries, right because you're cutting, trying.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
To be finessed.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And like with a dude like that, he coming downhill,
people getting in his way, right is.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And like his cutting, the way he moved is just
it just.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Put a lot of wear and tear on it on
him and put a lot of fatigue. So in a
situation like that, you gotta put him in picking rolls.
You gotta post him up because he puts the ball
up two or three times, go to the Oh he
gonna follow on the other end, right, and so you.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Got to play that. You gotta play that kind.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Of like that game and stay in front of him
and ground him as much as.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You can, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I used to see Blake like I used to tell Blake, like, yo, Bro,
if you got space, I'm just gonna throw the ball up.
I don't even care because can't nobody get get vertical
faster than you can, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
But I do think.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You can stifflem because you know why I'm picking you, bro.
You're my front runner for Defensive Player of the Year,
and I'm about to lead a campaign throughout the season, right,
and so I want to share with our fans some
impressive stats to start. My guy, Jmon Green on my
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fantasy sleeper app is holding opponents to just twenty nine
point six percent shooting through three games this season.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Now, I hope I hope you get I hope you
get points for defense because my two, two and five
not serve you well.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Last night, you dog, I was I'll take the L.
You know what I mean, I take the L.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I'm a bounce back man. I gotta I gotta give
myself up out of that corner. I'm a bounce back
for you.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
All that with the defensive Player of the Year, You
know what I mean, I need I need that, Like
we gotta get the boards.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
You know what I mean, we gotta we gotta up that.
We gotta up to Anny on that. Like you a D.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I got you because I think your team is going
to be a great defensive team and you're gonna be
a different type of anchor in than a D. So
I got you, n a D defensive player, but I'm
campaigning for you.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I appreciate that, Bro.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I think we definitely got a chance to be a really,
really really good defensive team. Obviously that starts with me
as the anchor of the defense, and so I'm really
locked in on that end. Man, I think, uh.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And then you know, seeing a D and what he's doing,
I'm like, man, heyd he need to stop talking about
defensive Player of the Year and go put himself in
that V category with JT. Man. Come on, man, going
away from over here? Man over there, what you're doing? Man,
go ahead over there? You know what I'm saying. So
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now I'm locked in though, I think uh. And then
also we got uh.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
You know, we brought in Jerry Stackhouse and Stack is
coaching the defense, and Stack got everybody locked in. He
like grade everything you do every game, and so there's
a level of it, there's a level of accountability.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
And last night, man, he had my grade low and
I'm like Stack, and he showed he showed a couple
of the clips of what he said I did wrong.
I'm like, yo, Stack, I can't leave Zubosh's body right
there and trapped that box with Jane is coming down here.
I got to meet James at the rim. If I
leave you early, that's a lot. And he's like, nah,
ways can get them, Like nah, Stack Wiggs can't get
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in front of Zubox that tight of rim if I
leave early. But what I can do is meet James
at the rim. And then there was another one that
he deemed me over.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And I saw the clip and I'm like, he like Dramond,
no box out, like no box out.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
My man is shooting the ball. That's not my man
getting the rebound. No box out, and so.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
On, And he's brought a couple like different things like
as you know, just about everybody in the NBA do
the same thing. Defensively Stack coming back from college, he
brought a couple of different things that he wanted to incorporate,
and I think it's really ultimately going to help our
defense a lot. So having someone like that to hold
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you accountable, like he's holding us accountable and make you
feel like y'all want to do this, you know what
I'm saying now?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
He was just necessarily for myself. He Sack is one
of the ones, bro.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
He you know, as a player, you know, as a VET,
as a coach, as an og. You talk about somebody
who love the game, Bro, It's like it'd be a
different level when they love that game, you know what
I mean, When they know the game and love the game.
That's you know, I'm just a fan now. Just all
my all my dogs and my air they coaching and
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ship and like they coming back and like they're giving
y'all something, you know what I mean, because that's what
I've been waiting for.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Like we need the Stacks, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
We need Rico Hines, We need Earl Watsons and and
JJ Reddicks and you know what I mean, we need
all these dudes around, you know, Willie Green's. We need
these dudes because they got they connected, you know what
I mean, they connected and they can challenge you.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Man. Shout out to stack Man.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, sir og stack Man. It's been it's been great
having him around. I always like, you know, he reminds
me of my uncle, Benny. I'm gonna bring my uncle here.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
They sounded like they act like they got a seriousness
to them. You know, he reminds me so much of
my uncle. So it's been great having stack around.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
So I think that's gonna ball well for us, and
it's definitely helping me. But in in other news, we're
gonna move around to move around the league. Okay, mm hm,
oh yeah, let me ask him that. Yeah, all right,
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m hm.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Now, you know we gotta talk who you keep saying
I gotta give myself out the corner. I know what
that means, right, Explain to our fans what do you mean?
Because you keep saying I gotta give myself. I know,
I gotta get myself out the corner.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
So coming into the season, like I said, we've kind
of been running a different style of offense, and the
spot of the offense that I'm in is just it's
in the corner. As players, when you're adjusting to a
new offense, initially you just go to your spot, right,
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Like you haven't figured out the loop holes in the
offense where you can find different space, how to find
that space, And so for these first three games, I'm
just kind of in the corner and I don't necessarily
know where those spots are yet. Like I'm still trying
to figure out where I can find my way out
of the corner and not mess up the space at right,
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Like you incorporate our offense. Everybody got their spots. That's cool,
but then as players, it's on us to then figure
out out like all right, like where can I find
my spots? You know what I'm saying within this offense
to where I'm not in steps way or I'm not
in uh Wiggs way, but yet I'm putting myself in
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a position to be successful as well. I've never really
been that successful out of the corner because I've never
really except for my rookie year, I've never really operated
out of the corner, and so new terrain just trying
to figure out that spacing and how I can find
my spots and where I can go to get out
the corner and not bunched the offense up and so, uh,
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that's kind of the challenge for me, and it's no,
it's definitely a challenge, but just trying.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
To figure it out.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
And I would say, like the way I translated it
was like, damn, I'm stuck in the corner like I'm
flat foot, you feel what I'm saying. So like getting
comfortable is really like, Okay, I know I'm gonna be here.
I gotta get my puppies moving. So it's a shot,
it's a move. It's supposed you know what I mean,
and then being able to but sometimes it's like because like, uh,
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it'd be a new offense.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
You like, damn, what do I do now? You know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
And basketball is way faster than that, So I think
you know, as you know, just talking to the fans,
as you get more comfortable in the offense, you know
what I mean, it's also just getting comfortable in the
corner and realizing that I don't have to stand here.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
I don't want to be. I can't be stuck here, like.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I gotta try some ship too, because early in the season,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
So for someone like you was just trying to just
like you.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
But what makes you, what makes you so great is
a lot of young guys and a lot.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Of players will try to force action.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
M like, hey, I'm not involved, like for sure, instead
of figuring out, you know what I mean, Great players
take chances and then they figure out their space and
where they comfortable, and then they start building towards that.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
You know what I mean. So I think, So that's
that's where I'm at. That's a great translation. I like it.
That's exactly where I'm at with it. But that's why
I was so and I know, like I got to
figure it out. But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
With a post with the posting crashing weeks side, like
like I see it, you know what I mean, The fadeaways,
the three choice shot, the pumping the pump fake, you know,
getting to like baseline, getting to the middle baby hook,
you know, like putting pressure on the defense from like
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I can see it, you know what I mean. But
a lot of times it's like with the new office,
everybody is learning how to figure each other out, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
And basketball is a very basketball is a very instant,
actual game, and right now I can't say that I'm
playing off instincts because you're trying to just figure out
kind of the nuances, and so got to find a
way to speed that up to where it becomes instinctial.
Because when I'm playing off my instincts, you know, the
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one thing I trust is I trust my instincts.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
I trust my brain. I know what's going on in
the basketball court. So just got to find a way
to make it more instinctial. And that's what I mean
by getting myself out of that corner. That's what I'm
talking about. Let's get up. But let's get up about that.
In other ways.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
We're gonna move around this league. Man, Let's move around
this league. Obviously, the good guys are no longer undefeated.
I would ask you who, who who do you got
as the best undefeated team left? You got the Thunder,
you got Celtic, you got the Lakers, you got the Calves.
Who is your best team?
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Or I wouldn't even say best, because I think the best.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Everybody's going to say Celtics Lakers, team that you're most
excited about in that bunch.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I said the Lakers, Uh, because I just think they
got they gotta, they gotta, they got and they are
one establishing an identity, which like we don't know what
the identity of the Lakers have been, you know what
I mean, since the bubble or whatnot, But the Lakers
never really had an identity outside of like it's Lebron's team.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Now they're back to being the Lakers. I like OKC.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Because they probably have the most talent of any team
in the league, you know what I mean. And those
young dudes are highly skilled basketball players and they just
gotta get mean, you know what. And I think by
them losing it in the playoffs last year, getting punched up,
like they got a little bit more confidence, you know,
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uh to go with it. And then the Celtics, you know,
defending channels Cleveland. You know, I like what they putting together.
But I don't think that Cleveland is I don't think
they wanted the best, you know, I think they would
be the weaker out of the four. But they played
some great basketball and they you know, they got a
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good system they got at you know what I mean,
they got a better system. But if Darius Garland and
Mitchell if they can if they can sink like they
was that one year when they were both all stars.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
They could be dangerous.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
They can I think uh. I think okay Se definitely
has some special talent. Shae Gibbs Alexander is one of
the best players in the league, and I don't think
there's anyone that you can find and debate that.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
I think he's going to put himself in that MVP.
Cateegory uh possibly could beete for possibly come home with it.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
And they got a lot of for Jalen Williams game
special check Holmgren special.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
The one thing I would say about them is there's
a certain readiness when you're ready to win. And I
don't care how old you are. I won my first
championship and my third year. Steph's six year plays fourth year.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
And.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
We used to joke.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Around, we will pour uh, we will pour water on
the guy's head and and you know, we will pour
water on the guys had every now and then and
after the game. And we would do little stuff like
that every now and then, not every time. But the
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one thing I see with the OKC team that is
a little alarming for me is like their post games,
like seven guys in the interview, like there's a certain
seriousness that it takes to win in this league.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
And.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
There's a certain fear you have to instill in a
team in teams in order to win, and I just
don't know if they're instill in that fearing teams with
all the bromance and stuff after the game, like Broll
we all the bros is to He's like, that's cool.
There's a time and a place for that. But after
every time somebody's in the interview, you got seven guys,
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eight guys. Then you got the same seven eight guys
with a picture with Josh Giddy right after they play,
Like again, I'm all for having fun, Like it's an
eighty two game season, you should have fun, but you
also have to understand what people people watching are looking
at you to be the team, and you have to
understand when your moment is and right now, I don't
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know if Okac understands, but their moment is now. At
their moment started last year. You go out, you had
that great regular season, Your clock starts. Now you're no
longer the team that's just building through the draft. You've arrived.
It is now time for you to take that next step.
And I'm not sure that they quite understand everything that
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that tells you know, they understand to play them them boys,
specially like they get out there.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
But it's another level too.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
They gotta get they gotta get two more levels to
get to the championship.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
So it's it's when I'm watching that and and you
know I'm in your conference and were about to play
in the playoffs. If if I if I think you soft,
I'm not there there is there's no fear. Yes, I'm
not a sious, I'm not. I'm like, oh bro, I'm
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going right at these dudes, you know what I mean.
And so you know all that like the fun and
games is fun, like it's doumb seeing them, but there's
also like they got to mature a little bit and
become more professional so the stars can be the stars,
you know what I mean, like at the start the interviews,
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be the stars, you know what I mean, And like
let's start getting this pecking order right, because when the
playoffs come, you know, and everybody buddy, buddy, and everybody
in panic, well that mean anybody shoot shoot the shot,
you know what I mean. That's how they got bottled
up last year exactly.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
And you got to think about it like even like
like you said the stars being stars Shay Gilgers Alexander.
Shae is on the verge of becoming like a superstar.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
I don't quite personally think he's a superstar yet, because
superstar to me is worldwide, everybody know you, and to me,
there's only a few superstars in the NBA. But Shaye
has superstar level talent. However, just because you have superstar
level talent doesn't always make you a super stars. For
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Shae Gilgers Alexander to take that next step, there are
certain things that superstar does. Like, for instance, like I
said the interview, Shaye, people want to hear what you
gotta say.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
They want to hear as you speak, They want to hear.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Your thoughts exactly, and they don't want to hear it
with seven guys in the background.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
They don't want to hear.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
That because they're not actually getting to experience who Shake
Gilgas Alexander is and that's what the world wants. And
by the way, like I said, that goes hand to
hand with taking that next step and becoming Shake Gilgers Alexander,
Not Shake Gilgs Alexander, who all the players look at
and be like yo, he nice, But shake Gilgs Alexander
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that all the players look at and be like, I'm
not looking forward to facing him today. Like everybody know
going into the game that Shae gonna get you thirty.
But now it's time to instill that fear and all
of that goes into that. And by the way, I
sha got that killer and got that dog in them.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
But he gotta get got no choice but to his team.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
What I'm saying, you gotta give all that to his team,
and he gotta like, hey, man, like all these games
and ship and playing around like that shit cool, but like, yo,
come on, guys, you know what I mean. Like I
remember my second year in the league. Uh, Sacramento. Uh,
Chris Webber, they came to Charlotte bro and they was
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tripping and Chris Weber was like, yo, it was the
second game of the season. He was like, Yo, we
did not come in this season to be bullshit. Were
trying to get a championship.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
Lock in.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
I was like, damn this game too. They talking about championship,
you know what I mean? They talking about they on
the so like, and that's the year you see Sacramento
take that league.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Because it's like, man, you.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Gotta you gotta put yourself from the beginning this season
in that moment, I don't want no If you don't
have no friends, you gotta you gotta be championship.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
You know, people don't understand this. Championships are not one
in April, May and June. That's actually the whole thing
with the Joe L ANDV thing is like championship, championship
is a championship is the processes like it is a
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process from day one and every day practice games, you're
chipping away at that and you chip away and ship away,
you have a setback, chip away, chip away, chip away,
set take two steps back, chip away, chip away. It's
an everyday process over the course of nine months.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
It's not just get to April healthy, get to May
healthy and we're good. Nah, you building every single day
and and that's what those guys gotta understand that there's
just gotta be a certain seriousness. And it was cool
when y'all were the new guys on the block last
year coming out winning fifty plus games. Now you're expected
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to do that. We expect y'all to win these regular seasons.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
We don't need seven guys in the press conference anymore.
We need shake gilgss Alexander and then lou Dort's gonna
have a great game and they ain't gonna want Shaye
that night. They gonna want to do because he clamped
somebody and he had twenty And we need.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Lou Dort in that interview.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
And that's the type of seriousness that this group I
think it's going to need in order to take that
next step, because what they must understand is you got
a year or two to take the next step. If
you don't, you start pulling pieces out and you start
plugging other guys in, and you pull this guy out,
and all of a sudden, Shay gonna be making three
hundred million dollars and Check gonna be making three hundred
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million dollars.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Can they also afford to pay Jayle Williams three hundred
million dollars? Then you start to run into those issues.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
So you gotta take advantage of it as soon as
your window open, because as fast as that window open
close success even faster.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, I mean, that's you crazy if you don't take
that moment right now, you know what I mean, because
you gotta be you also got to be aware and
have a great deal of respect. But who in front
of you, who next to you, and who coming behind you?
Speaker 3 (54:16):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (54:17):
You know what I mean, Because it's every year it's
like you don't know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (54:25):
But okay, so need to mature.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
If they mature, if they mature this year, and take
that leap all of them and get serious and get
serious about Hey man, we won this game. Let's get
to the next one. You know what I mean, They're
gonna They're gonna be all right.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Speaking like speaking of some of the teams, I saw.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
In an interview my boy Yiannis, now my son loves
Jannis bro and he was talking about how the Bucks
need to find their identity, like that's a bi word
and sports that's almost like a bad word in sports,
a good word or a bad word. They just failed
to one in three. And when it comes to the
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team finding an identity like who like who says the
precedents players are coaches.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
It's it starts with coaches.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
The coaches have to come in with a certain swagger,
with a certain confidence, with a certain seriousness to.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
A let guys know what their roles are.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
I think on any great team, coaches come in and
they define and it's not all right, Draymond, your role
is boom boom boom. Steph your role is boom boom boom.
Clay your role or not Clay, it's a national thing. VP,
your role is boom boom boom.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
It's like no.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
You come in and they start establishing this is what
we need. These are the roles to feel you're gonna
you know, we need you in this spot. And you
start to figure out your identity and what's spurs your roles.
You discuss what it is that what we want our
identity to be. Right, So we want our identity to
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be X. We want our identity to be a great
defensive team. We want our identity to be a fast
paced offensive team. You push the ball, get up and down.
That's what we want our identity to be. So from
day one, that's what we're trying to build. Right, And
so it starts with coaches then and most to your
best players. What are y'all doing on a day to
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day basis to make sure that you're bringing X so
that everyone.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Else knows they got to bring Y and Z because
if the.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
Top players are bringing X, everybody else you have to
bring wires here. You're no good here and so then
it starts with players. And I'm gonna tell you this.
One thing that coaches on used to teach us, and
he would always say, is a saying he would always say,
he said, a player coach team, it's better.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
Than a coach coach team. And that was his motto.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
When we had a leader that was coaching up the
team and holding guys responsible on the court, that things
that Isoe didn't have to do. Because he had a
leader doing that, it makes his life easier, and make
your players and make your players relationship with him better,
and all of these things right, and the things that
he had to focus on changes. It allows him to
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expand his bandwidth because he don't have to focus on that.
And so as much as it is coaches have to establish,
it then falls on the players.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Who are you going to bree What are you bringing
to the table, what type of intensity are you coming
to the table with each and every game? And then
what is important is when even important to us?
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Because if it is important to us, then we'll do
the things that we've identified that we want our identity
to be. If winning is not the most important thing
to us, we usually become a team that is not
sure what the identity are, and you don't know from
night to night what team is going to show up.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
And those teams can't win an A And I've been.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
On a lot of those teams, right and for real,
I've been on a lot of those teams, and like
the thing is, man, it's like there's no trust or communication,
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you know what I mean. And so when I look
at Milwaukee, you don't trust the system, right, there is
no system that's putting you in a position to where
your game you feel like your game, you know what
I mean. Everybody stuck in the corner, you know what
I mean. And Nis and Dame Lillard are stuck in
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the corner, are stuck in their separate corner, and they
not communicating. Right then, now you gotta go to the
coach as the guys talk to the coach, you know. Now,
Now it's therapy, right and it ain't basketball. You ain't
figuring it out, You ain't figuring it out together. And
the team that don't communicate right, like like the Bucks
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need a little bit of whatout Okay, see guy, because
they're too.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
Serious, you know what I mean, They're almost too.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
It's a unique because Giannis has won a championship, right,
he is, like, that's his determination.
Speaker 3 (59:48):
And so if people are not up to that level.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Or can't get there, or a coach can't bring them
to that level, then that's where you have identity issues.
But I excuse me. I would always say, even the
Boston team with KG and Paul and Ray Allen, I
mean they got one, you know what I mean? And
I would say for a team like that with all
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that talent in that era, how they put that together, you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Know what I mean? They were beatable, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Like Doc the way he puts this team together, the
way he coaches his teams. His teams are extremely talented.
But the way the system is is you're playing against
the system. So you can beat you can beat them
playing Doc system. And so it's got to be a
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little bit of Doc gotta figure it out, Johannis and
Dame gotta figure it out. But everybody else on the
team gonna say, hey, man, we ballers, this is what
we like to do. And then you gotta go and
try and force that in the game. Right, can't be
sitting back at one and three saying, man, we don't
know what all right? You got to go established one
now and almost go Kama Kazi until you get in flow,
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because it sounds like they ain't been in flow from
last year. They have a good training camp, it sounded
like they ain't coming into the season, and it's still
like a major disconnection between your top three.
Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
People, your coach, and your two superstars.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
So I asked you this question because I actually came
across this earlier today and I haven't thought nothing of
it until we just started talking about the bucks. I
came across a clip earlier today and Gil was talking
about Dame and he pretty much said he doesn't think
Dame has figured out how to pick and choose his
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spots when he should be looking to score gils. And
he compared it to himself in Washington when he had
twin Walker.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
And or no twin James. Larry Hughes.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yes, yeah, way absolutely, And so he compared it to
himself and he said, listen, I would just pass to
those guys to start the gain. Let them drive Karan
get into the cup getting fouled.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Why am I just drawing a black Larry Hughes and yeah,
Antoine Jamison getting to the hole getting fouled, And I
let them get the files up.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Now once they start getting the team to like three
and four files, I know you have to guard me differently,
is what he said. He said, I know you have
to guard me differently because we're in the bonus and
so now I can really attack you. Now I can
take advantage of my skill and and so Gil made
the comparison. He was like, he don't think Dame is
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letting Yannis go go go, and then pick and choosing
his spots. He said, he think Dames come out, take
three or four tough shots and then if you miss him, yeah,
and then it's kind of tough from there. What are
your thoughts on that? I can't necessarily speak to that.
I'm not a point guard or I was never just
scoring guard.
Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
What what are you? What are your thoughts? I totally agree.
I think.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Dave is super talent, He's super elite, and for the
majority of his career he had to come out and
damn near put up forty for them to have a
chance to win. Right when he played with LaMarcus Aldiers,
give it to LaMarcus Aldiers, let him anchor.
Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I think he got to start going back to.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
That mentality, like, okay, I got Yannis, Let me low,
Yannis up.
Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Let me get.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
These dudes going right, and not that you're not it's
not yourself, but it's not your points, you know what
I mean? Like you starting to game him three four, five,
three pointers in the first quarter, Like that's not going
to help the Bucks win, you know what I'm saying.
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Like if it was Portland, Oh yeah, he about to
go off. Everybody is gonna rise to that level because
he's elevated and Milwaukee Bucks Land, that's like keeping you
in the game the way they play, you know what
I mean. So he gotta learn how to finesse the
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situation so it opens up for him, right, and so
be dame time. Right, script, like write a script for yourself, right,
go home, write a script for yourself every game. Write
a script. This is where y'an is gonna give me. Boom,
this is what port is gonna give me. This is
what I'm getting from low pays. This is what I
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need in this game. And then four minutes six, we
have six. It's dame time, and so you you start
making your points matter based Oh damn, we down six.
Let me go get to the line. Boom, we have six.
Let me take let me take two of these just
to see if I can put some distance, right, And
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so I think it's more so Dame trying to Once again,
it's the system, Dame trying to figure out how to
do Dame time and Yannis trying to figure out how
to do Yanni's time.
Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
And so if you remember, with.
Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
The Clippers, you had Chris Paul and Blake Griffin and
they played two different styles.
Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
And that's why the Clippers can never beat you guys,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
They could be They beat San Antonio because Blake played well,
Chris Paul played well, but together, you know what I mean,
there wasn't like they didn't dominate the game. They actually
like allowed you to stay in the game because one
player was balling the other player was balling. But if
they were ever balling in sync, they were gonna blow
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your ass out out, you know what I mean. And
I think that's where Milwaukee is kind of handicapped because
there's no there's no connective tissue.
Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
For like Yin and Yang. There's no Yin and Yang.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Yeah, No, for sure, well number one, under no circumstance
with the Clippers ever going to blow. It's how But
I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Number two, when I when I played for an accident, I
play against you before he was Oh, the w the.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Clippers though, like twenty two in the third quarter came
back to Golden State.
Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
I was watched though, So check this though, Check this.
So if you say dang Yannis is the one that
has won the championship, Dame is still kind of figuring
out his way there. At what point does the onus
fault on you Yiannis.
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
To maybe get Dame because Dame could also make life
easier on him.
Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
So where is it? Or is it just all this system? Bro?
You feel what I'm saying, because if you look at
Giannis in this system, he don't play like Yiannis you did?
You know what I'm saying, Like he not pushing.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
It, he not taking it, you know, taking it on
the wing and saying hold on, like ask for forgiveness later. Right,
So he he's kind of lost a little bit of
who he is and how he could help Dang right
or like it's almost like they're trying to help each
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other so much that they're overworking.
Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Without working together, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
And then when you go into the system like identity
is a system thing, because if Jannie is saying, we
got an idea problem, that means somebody don't know who
the man around here, and then somebody don't know who
the man when the man is supposed to be around here,
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you know what I mean, And so everybody's uncomfortable, you
know what I'm saying. And so that system the way
they play. There are only two playmakers on that team,
j Honest and Dame Lillard. And Dame Lillard is a
scoring playmaker. Yannis is a scoring playmaker, a defensive playmaker.
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Neither one of those guys are assist guys. They don't
set They're not They wasn't molded to be great to
set people up. Their greatness is in their points, you
know what I mean, and their pressure that they put
on defense from an offensive standpoint, Yannis on both ends
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of the floor. You feel what I'm saying, Like Dame
is not gonna be jew Holiday for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Milwaukee Bucks gotta gonna find somebody that can do that,
so Dame can be a better version of whoever was
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the two guard when they want it, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
For sure, so does Chris Middleton. Whenever he get back
from injury, does he change that or do you still
have the same No it well.
Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
One, I wanted to see Chris healthy because you know
he's but he's another score, right, And so if you're
asking Chris Middleton to come back and be the Chris
Middleton he was during the finals, then you a fool,
you know what I mean, because he was bringing the.
Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Ball up, he was playmaking.
Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
They need somebody that can break down the defense, or
it needs somebody that can look for people, you know
what I mean, And you know they need they need
Ben Simmons.
Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
I was just about to say, you think so you
think is the answer?
Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Hell yeah, hell yeah. Okay, all right, but I don't
think the system is going to work.
Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
I think you know they have something good with Agent
Griffin whatever. Like Bro, you know how the drama go.
When it's drama, that's all drama and soap opera. Milwaukee
has found themselves in the basketball soap opera of oh
you used to be good. Now you're about to go
through some ship. Now you gotta figure it out. Now
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you're gonna unravel it, and you don't want to piss
off your honest, because he can piece it back together.
Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
So might I remind you that Doc Rivers was the
coach of the Ben Simmons fall out and physic I know,
the squad necessarily going to be the guy.
Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Doc Rivers they did and build special bro.
Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Because he will put you in a system that only
he knows how to coach it.
Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
So so you So that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
The problem is it's not Dame, it's it's the system.
Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
And the way you built the team.
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
And so you built the team around two guys that
are incredible basketball players, right, but you have nobody in
the middle that's bringing them to a point of their
ultimate capacity.
Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
If Dame is going, Giannis ain't going.
Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
If Giannis is going, Dame ain't going, Why the fuck
aren't they both going at the same time?
Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
They're deadly in the pick and roll together.
Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Of course, who's on the opposite side, Yeah, right, what's
happening on the opposite side?
Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Who else is chiming in?
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Who else is making a play for a Dame or
or a play for Giannis? So when Janni's make a
play for Dame and he wide open, it's like, damn,
I'm wide open. I ain't never been wide open and
my entire Dame Lillard has never been wide open in
his entire career unless he made himself wide open. Feel
what I'm saying. So like it's new to him too.
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But they gotta get that connective tissue. And I think
you gotta change the system, right, y'all gotta fast break,
y'all gotta get back to playing defense, right, But you
gotta let you gotta let Damon Giannis figure the ship
out and get out the way sometimes as a coach,
because you still don't get wins based on their.
Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Talent facts facts. I respect it all right, what so.
Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Sorry, Sorry, Doc, I ain't no real I'm just you
know what I'm looking at coaching. I'm like, yo, a
Doc Rivers team is a bit a beatable team. I
don't know how much talent they got because they only
playing patterns.
Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Pattern Okay, I respect it. So, speaking of Ben Simmons,
did you see the fan yesterday when Ben Simmons is
walking past, tell him he's trash to his face. That
was crazy, bro in Orlando.
Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
So in Orlando, you walk to the locker room and
they had this guard rail up and you're walking right
next to a bunch of fans, which number one is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
They allow fans to line up right there when you're
going in the locker room, when you're coming out, people
standing there screaming, trying to get all the grass.
Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
And NBA locker room is the most non private place.
Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
In the building.
Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Like there's no privacy. You're getting dressed, there's people in
the locker room. You're doing media like you're you're getting
prepped before the game. There's people in the locker room.
As soon as the coaches break the huddle after the game,
there's people.
Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
In the locker room. It has to be the most insane,
nonsanity or however you want to frame it, place in
an NBA locker room. I mean in the NBA arena,
it's just like open season. Like you go and you
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do what you want.
Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
There's a million people in Orlando next to like, but
then if we say something back.
Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
We get in trouble. We get fun.
Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
But this kid who's standing out with his dad is
going to say say, in my face, I'm trash.
Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
He don't know what it takes to make it to
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
You really want to beat his data for letting him
talk like that control your kid.
Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
But yeah, it's just like, oh, respect the game.
Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Fans can like they pretty much say what they want
to you, and you just have to take it. And
just the empowerment of fans to say what they want
to say to us as if we're not human beings.
Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Now, we just got to hit them back on track,
like we just got to like bring your mama back,
you know what I mean, like your mama, your daddy,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
What I mean? Yo, what shut.
Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I have one of those little laughing uh those little things.
Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Wow, shut up. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
I thought that was wild, but I thought, you know,
Shorter came back to this defense being kind of said,
why you ain't saying in my face?
Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
But you know, I just think that's always been an
ongoing issue. They still ain't figured it out. Yeah, probably
never going to figure it out. It's just something that
we have to do.
Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
That's and it is what it is. It is.
Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Bro Donald's before we get out of here, though, Bro Donald,
Oh go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
I played with the Clippers. Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
We won a game, and he came in there with
like no lie, like eight old ass ladies. They have
to be like late fifties sixties. I mean they looked
like they was seventy eighty. And he came in when
I athorized, Bro, bullshit you not. And coaches just finished
and he said, hey, lady, you know meet the guys.
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And I'm sitting right at the door. And he was like, man,
you can sit in here. You can sit right here
and talk to him. Wait till he take his towel off.
Whoa chill?
Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
And the old lady was just sitting here, ask me
how kind of question?
Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Bro, I'm sitting there with my toil like, Bro, I'm
not about to I'm about to wake this old lady.
Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Yuh, I'm not about to get up. Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
It was hey, Bro, it was dial biller. She was
waiting for you to take the locker room. It was crazy, Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
He was like wait. He was like, wait for that's nuts.
Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
I tell you what though, I will tell you what
all that's gonna take. It's for somebody to get sued.
In this climate. You got so many people in the
locker room. People can say anything. Guess what you're Even
if you ain't guilty, you're guilty by public perception. And
we live in a world where you're guilty until proven innocent,
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and once you're proven innocent, nobody's going.
Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
To talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
But before you're proven innocent, you're going to get talked
about like a dog, like you're guilty. And all that's
gonna take is for someone to sue and say X,
Y and Z. But it's just unfair to players that
you have to be putting.
Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
You can't say.
Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Nothing in the locker room no more, right, you feel
like even if he knows, even if you were even
if it was a team inside joke after the game
and you yelled something right, and people can take anything
now out of context, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
It's just, man, this shit is crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Like they got to be some type of like privacy
for like the players and the team to have a
moment before people rushing in, even for some players like
say you did something wrong or say something happened in
the game, Like get that, dude, the moment, you know
what I mean, and maybe talk to the team, talk,
you know, talk to the players and be like, hey, bro,
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don't do that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Don't crash out.
Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
But the media be trying to now, they trying to,
They be trying to make you crash out on them.
Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Nah, for sure, for sure, it's a it's a media
or maybe. But right after the coach to media come
right in. So you got about five.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Minutes, maybe exactly three to five minutes and the head
of the PR PR guy gonna come in, like all right,
we open the media and they and they're in the
locker room literally three to five minutes after the coach
walk out, no time, and that's what guys are left
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dealing with. It's like, so, by the way, three to
five minutes, if it was a rough ending to the game,
you ain't even had time to like take a deep breath. Coach,
just talk right, you may say something to the guy.
They see you before, look at your phone.
Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Before you know it, it's over people in your face,
right in your face. And it's something that guys have
complained about for years.
Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
It's something that went away during COVID, and you thought
it was one of those things like marijuana that went
away during COVID.
Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
They'm testing for marijuana.
Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
They it would be one of those things, now that's
what I'm saying, But they stopped testing for that during COVID.
They also stopped letting media members in for pretty much
a year and a half where you didn't have.
Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
To the lock conference.
Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Yeah, yes, And everybody was like, yo, this is great
and thought like that would be the end of it,
and then it came back and I just don't understand
we live in today.
Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
I don't talk to media before the game. I don't
talk to him before the game. You got whispers. You
know what I had dropper before?
Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Yeah, we had an eavesdropper before that when Kadi was
on our team where we were having a conversation in
the locker room.
Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
It was in Utah and the guy tweeted like a
conversation we was having and I was just like, yo,
like you can't like we're not talking to you, having
a conversation amongst each other and you eavesdrop on our
conversation and then go tweet it. But you know, you
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always talk about like the protection of the players, and
there is none. It's afraid of players and it's crazy
you don't you And yet nothing gets accomplished by media
being in the locker room before the game.
Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Guess what.
Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
The media come in the locker room after the game.
And then Raymond Rivers saying all right, I'm taking Draymond
up to the media room. What's the point, Like, help
me nand that why they come in here. But I
was just sitting in my locker. Help me understand that.
And so I don't know, man, It's one of those
ridiculous things that you would have been. I'm not even
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going to say need to go away, because you would
have thought, let's keep it.
Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Maybe if we say, hey, everybody, keep it till get
rid of it, because it should have been gone on.
I think should get rid of it because it creates
more of a mistake.
Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
You're not getting dudes with cameras with towels on, they
shirt off, you like, get them at the podium dressed up.
Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
It just creates more of a.
Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Vibe for what the league is trying to do with
fashion and personality and shit like that, instead of the
mistake of you know, somebody with a camera and a
locker and like, I ain't even I'm getting dressed, somebody
getting an interview. I'm in the back, you know what
I mean. And so like it's just cut out all
the confusion.
Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
It's really uncomfortable. It's really uncomfortable in the locker room.
You have men, you have women, and I'm trying to
get in the shower. It is a very very very
uncomfortable and is supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
It's a very uncomfortable space walking around in the tower
with a bunch of people that just come in with you.
You know what they're in there for. It's a real Yeah,
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I can do that.
Speaker 9 (01:23:21):
Yeah, okay, purchase okay.
Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Man man were speaking in you know, locker room and
backing in the locker room. Uh right now, my boys,
the Dodgers up three to zero.
Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
In New York.
Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
The media of us be in the Yankee locker room.
Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
I'm a Yankee fan. Sorry, I'm a Yankee fan.
Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
And however, you know, my guy, Peter Goober is the
owner of the Dodgers, So I'm not up.
Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
I'm not upset. I want to be a Yankee magic
and not because I've been a Yankee fan.
Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Since I wast How can I am upset?
Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
I want to win. I want to win. But you know,
I'm happy for Peter. I'm happy for Peter.
Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
But the series isn't over yet. We're not going to
do what we're doing. Look at you, bro.
Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
I'm happy for Peter. I didn't say I was happy
for the Dodgers. Said, he don't want you to be
happy for us.
Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
It does not you are a New York Yankee fan,
it does not feel good when we win that you
guys are like, oh you guys beat us. Were like, no,
we want you to hate us. That is the problem
with the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Yeah, got too, we got we got twenty eight World
Series front know what more you want a nice guy?
You have twenty eight y'all just made y'all twenty third appearance.
Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
We got twenty eight offs.
Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Okay, we on the way, on the way though, we're
on the way. Uh tiny ten years? Hello, hello, those
contracts are bad. After three years? No, no, no, his
whole contract is for three years. His whole contract after
three years. Yeah, after three years, y'all go.
Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Three million a year the wagon. It's a shame they
let your shake like that. Hey, bro, that's smart, that's
smart business. Bro. You would do you know what you
would do it?
Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Y'all about to Yeah, it went wrong for in Game one, man,
we should we took Game one.
Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
It changed as a series. We let it get away.
What happened and now y'all feeling good? Oh you know what.
Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Happened in game drama? Because you probably didn't believe. You
weren't believing that at that point, so you weren't watching.
And then you hop on the band wagon. You probably
Angels fan anyway, and now you want to act like
you're a Dodger angel from.
Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Your angel a Yankee fan from Michigan. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Absolute, that, okay, absolutely that. You know you know, you
know who My favorite Dodger is. Fernando Venezuela. Come on,
you know who my favorite Yankee is outside of the Captain.
Outside of the Captain and Malavera. My favorite Yankee growing
(01:26:43):
up was Darryl Strawberry and Chuck.
Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Daryl Strawberry from Crinshaw High l A. He wanted to
be a I got to do with me, wanted to
be inta Dodger. We birth shout out to Kris Shawha.
But he went over there to win championship. The Dodgers
wasn't winning those chi ships.
Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Then he went over there. We birthed Daryl st championship.
He was off to Krenshaw High. But he went to
he went to He went over there.
Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
The essence of the day he went over there. He
went over there. He went over there.
Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Oh my god, hey, bro, I'm in air one I
did five laps around the air one.
Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
And now he wanted to come alive. He has zero
home runs and won RBI at the time, and he
wanted to look up man Ster Slam.
Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
You heard it here first. The Yankees coming back because
guys who don't win championships get excited before the series
is over. And now the Yankees coming back and we're
about to take this world series.
Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
You heard it here first. That's a rap from your
two guys. Appreciate y'all to it, and now check us
out later this week.
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